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#85 #BlackLivesMatter Demands, OH MY! Karen Straughan and Glenn Beck | Louder With Crowder
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You've found yourself at the junction where worlds meet.
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How about honesty in this country, folks?
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And a whole bunch of other stuff.
It's about having a healthy body image.
You have a very unhealthy body.
You should have a horrible body image.
Not a big home improvement market in Georgia.
We are definitely going to get letters.
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This is not...
I totally own this.
This has nothing to do with NotGayJared.
And his formidable history of errors.
This is entirely 8 o'clock, ready?
Nope!
And I did the running man.
So...
Draw your own conclusions.
But I'm glad to be here.
We have a lot to talk about today.
We have great guests.
We've got Glenn Beck.
Big guest.
Glenn Beck, good guest.
And I know, hold your hate mail, because I know a lot of you people on the YouTubes who don't like Glenn Beck have never actually heard what he has to say.
And maybe you agree with him, maybe you don't.
I don't agree with him on a whole lot.
I agree with him on some.
Then we have Karen Strawn on of Girl Writes What?
Men's Rights Activist.
And we have...
Casey.
Casey.
Probably Casey for the first time introducing her to the world.
And Hopper will be announcing his vice presidential candidate on this show.
And I think later on, Nottingham has an announcement to make.
Hello, darkness, my old friend.
I've come to talk with you again.
What's going on?
What happened?
We're good.
Okay.
Back to you.
So we'll be talking about that later on with Not K. Jared.
Big stories this week.
Big week for politics.
Trump, some new polls out.
Many polls.
All polls out that have him down significantly.
We'll get into that a little bit later.
The problem with that is if you start right off the bat, people think if you acknowledge any polls that somehow you're being critical of Trump and they get really angry with you.
I understand that Reuters has been kind of found out to be a little bit rigged with the polls.
But not all the independent bowls in Michigan, Pennsylvania.
The thing is you can't only acknowledge the polls when they're in your favor.
Right.
There is a guy, you know, some are rigged, some are not.
But, I mean, if you just toss aside all the ones that you don't like.
Well, at the very same time, he's championing the polls that have him winning or the states that have him winning.
How many of those are rigged?
No one's calling those rigged.
Right, no one's calling those rigged.
Or the Nielsen ratings.
Yep.
So, listen, I certainly, by no measurable wrong, I don't hate Donald Trump.
And I think Hillary Clinton is far, far worse.
And we'll talk about it later on.
But I just don't think you're doing yourself any favors by being delusional.
If you just say, well, he's buying by nine points in Michigan.
What was it, 13 points in New Hampshire?
We'll get into it later.
Ten here.
For the first time, Utah and Georgia are in play.
And he hasn't flipped any of them.
But those are all rigged.
Every single one of them is rigged.
It's the media.
It's rigged.
Yep.
Well, okay.
Go with that tact.
So it's not me being mean, it's me saying something clearly.
If you believe that any of the polls, pick any of them, because all of them have him losing and trailing by more and more each day, it might be time for a new tact for Donald Trump.
We put out a poll today, not today, yesterday on Twitter, would Donald Trump be better served attacking Hillary Clinton more than Ted Cruz and Bernie Sanders, as he's been doing, and over 80% of many thousands of people said yes.
Immediately.
I talked about this.
I said, I think you're going to be surprised by how soft Donald Trump will be on Hillary in comparison to people like Ted Cruz, Rubio.
My whole thing was, once you go and call, you know, lying Ted, lying Ted, once you've already dropped some of those things, it doesn't have, even if you did call Hillary out for the liar she is, it wouldn't have the same weight, because he's kind of already spent some of those cards, in my opinion, so...
I think that's a good point.
So you can tweet me at S. Crowder what you think about that.
And if you're just upset that I say, man, these polls aren't looking good, this probably isn't the show for you.
So we'll get into that more in depth later on and hopefully get into kind of what they mean.
But some big stories this week.
What happened earlier in the week?
Corrin Gaines was the latest Black Lives Matter story.
For those who don't know...
We had a lot of flack on Twitter covering this.
Okay, let me just kind of set the stage for you, for those of you who weren't following.
This was the latest Black Lives Matter police brutality.
Corn Gaines, black woman, shot dead in her apartment.
Don't laugh.
I know.
You can't laugh yet.
See, if people don't have a time machine, they just think you're a horrible person.
It is true, which is not entirely false.
It's not entirely false.
So...
Shot dead in her apartment.
Her five-year-old was shot as well.
That sounds awful.
At first you read, this is horrible.
How is this in any way justified?
Well, let me give you the full story as it was...
Five-year-old not dead, by the way.
No, five-year-old's not dead, by the way.
So maybe your laughing doesn't seem as untoward.
No.
She had a warrant out for her arrest because she failed to appear in court.
She was harboring another fugitive who had a warrant out for his arrest for assault.
She was in her apartment.
They knocked, tried to get her to come out to speak with them.
She didn't.
The landlord gave the officers a key to her apartment.
They came in.
She aimed a, the other fugitive ran out with the one-year-old.
She decided to load a shotgun, aim it at the police officers, use her five-year-old as a human shield, Cock it, aiming at the cops after a three-hour standoff slash negotiation.
Once she said that she was going to kill them all, the police officers fired a shot, she fired back, and that's why she was killed.
Some might argue that changes the context.
I don't know about you.
Black, white, yellow...
Pick a color.
Any shade in the spectrum, because I know I'll get emails.
Black and white aren't color shades.
Okay, I get the point.
Tell people of color that.
Pick any color or shade.
Have that person aim a loaded shotgun at the cops.
Sweetheart, you're on borrowed time.
I don't see any other way that this turns out.
I don't know about you.
I would never aim a cap gun at the police and expect to get out alive.
I would understand that it is a wildly unnecessary gamble, let alone aiming a loaded shotgun to a police officer.
Do we have the image that we tweeted out?
All right, let me bring it up on my Twitter.
So this is what happened.
This was found out to be true, and right away, Sean King and all the Black Lives Matter activists were saying, you know, any white person who uses the idea of human shield should immediately be looked at with white supremacist suspicion.
Because obviously.
Because obviously.
That's what they said.
So, I will have this up on my screen here.
We tweeted out, the final conspiracy theory was...
How could this woman have aimed a shotgun at the cops while holding a baby in her hand?
Well, here we have a picture from Twitter where we did some detective work.
And it turns out you can aim a long rifle with a baby in your hand.
So we did this.
It got retweeted quite a bit.
People got really mad saying, well, that's a doll.
That's not an actual baby.
I said, okay, let's revise this for accuracy.
As you can see by this picture, this is me carrying my not-gay producer as a suitcase, exhibiting proper trigger control, carrying a long rifle.
Now, people said, well, that's not a shotgun.
You're right, it's an Uzi.
It's probably heavier than a shotgun, too.
It's much heavier.
So you're scraping the bottom of the barrel when you get to the point with, well, how could you hold a shotgun and a child?
Hold on a second.
Are we not going to address the fact that she was holding a child while aiming a loaded shotgun at police officers?
That's the main takeaway here.
So here are a couple of points.
First off, you're a horrible mother.
Is that it because she's black?
No.
I'm saying it because she's a horrible mother.
I remember one time we had a squirrel get into the house.
A squirrel!
And my parents, first thing they did was, Steve and Jordan, get in your room, lock the door, because...
Rabies.
They wanted to make sure we didn't get rabies.
So, from a squirrel.
Police officers are in there with guns.
You're aiming a loaded shotgun at them, and your first choice is to put the child in your lap and livestream it for Facebook?
At the very least, you are an absolute horrible mother.
Best case scenario, that's abusive.
And this also shows you...
And by the way, am I sympathetic?
No, I'm sorry.
I'm really not.
I'm really not.
I was sympathetic to a lot of them.
Eric Garner, we talked about.
Tamir Rice.
I'm sorry.
In this situation, there's just nothing left to give.
Someone goes, well, don't you think it's a tragedy?
You know?
No.
No, I don't.
I mean, it's not to be unexpected.
You aimed a loaded shotgun at a police officer.
Like, this isn't...
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
If I read it on paper, well, that person's probably dead, right?
Is this how the story ends?
Yeah, yeah, she died.
Well, yeah.
I don't even need to read the end of it.
She had to load her shotgun.
Please.
And we're supposed to believe this pandemic from Black Lives Matter, right?
We're supposed to believe this is...
They're just knocking off kids, black people.
They're just shooting them for no reason because of the melanin in their skin.
It's...
They're just shooting black people.
I am scared to go out to the cops because they're going to shoot me, right?
For no reason.
If that's the case, if it is so common...
Why don't they take any one of those stories?
Why isn't the top trending story every day, hey, little Sean got shot riding his bicycle?
Really?
Did he aim a loaded shotgun at the cops?
No!
He was just riding his bicycle.
Oh, so those are the stats you're talking about.
Yeah, it happens every day.
We never read those stories.
It's a felon with a gun, like Sterling, right, who fought off arrest, who got wrestled down, who refused to cooperate.
It's a woman with a loaded shotgun aiming it at the cops.
If there were these examples out there of innocent black people simply being shot for no reason at all, We would have them every day.
Something like this would get no traction, right?
Because they'd go, you know what?
Don't use that, because that doesn't help our case.
Let's use a right one.
If you notice, this one trended pretty hard until it became kind of overpopulated with people saying, no, it was a loaded sawed-off shotgun or whatever it was.
Pistol grip and all.
Aimed by cops.
It kind of faded pretty fast.
For three hours.
For like three hours.
Strong, but then it like faded.
So you wonder if it's kind of like...
You'll probably never hear about it again.
Well, that was the ALAPD shooting in Skid Row.
Remember we covered that?
And the guy did reach and grab a cop's gun?
Yep.
So you tweet me if you think, listen, I know we're going to get letters.
Oh, you should be more sympathetic.
I'm sorry, I'm not very sympathetic at that point.
And I think it is incredibly indicative of the lie that Black Lives Matter is based on.
If there are unjust shootings, listen, bring them, absolutely.
But if you are deciding as your test case, a woman with a stockless shotgun aimed at a cop threatening to kill them all as an innocent, like, that's the best you got?
Black Lives Matter, bring it!
Bring it like you mean it!
Come on, we're adults here.
Be adults.
I'll be back.
Adults!
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Good stuff.
Good stuff.
And Not Gay Jared has a stick up his rear today.
I don't know what his deal is.
Tweet him at Not Gay Jared.
He's come in here angry tonight, upset, won't look me in the eyes, like a dog who got hit with a rolled up newspaper.
Or a dog who ate all your noodles and sriracha.
Oh, yeah, that's true.
We talked about that.
Every now and then something gets just retweeted like crazy.
I just posted a video of Hopper.
He ate some noodles at my mistake I left next to the trash.
And, you know, it wasn't like me saying, Hopper.
I just said, hey, did you eat the noodles?
And I looked at him and he will never look me in the face when he does something wrong.
So, went semi-viral.
I don't know.
We would do all this work to write political commentary.
We create these videos.
And the dog with the diarrhea just goes nuts.
It just goes nuts.
That's what people want to see.
Speaking of which, we will talk about this later on.
Apparently in Rio they are concerned now about there being an outbreak with the Zika virus.
So we are...
Hello darkness, my old friend.
I've come to talk with you again.
What's happening?
We're good.
We're good?
Okay.
We'll talk more about that later on.
Yeah, in Brazil.
Brazil.
Horrible lawless land, Brazil.
Before we get into Black Lives Matter's demands, and then we have Glenn Beck, I want to roll a clip from MTV News.
We have to get Black Lives Matter out of the way at the beginning.
First, because there's so much of it, and second, because it's hilarious, and we want to start the show off funny.
So this comes from MTV News News.
This is actually what they said.
Roll clip.
If, you know, criminal justice reform is something you believe in, if changing the systematic, you know, lynching of black people is something that you think needs to be stopped.
Yeah, metaphorically or literally, yes.
Yeah, then you have a candidate.
Right.
And it's...
You have one choice to prevent that.
Or, you know, if you Okay, so systematic lynch.
In this election, you have one choice if you want to stop the systematic lynching of black people.
If the systematic lynching of black people is occurring at the highest levels of American government, wouldn't that have been made a priority by, oh, say, the first black president?
If the systematic lynching of black people is worse than ever in 2016, isn't there someone who would maybe put that on his agenda of things to do, say, the first black president?
Isn't that a possibility?
Can you believe that this is something they actually said?
These words came out of their mouth?
And they have no sense that, oh, wow.
They said that, and it almost comes off as if they believe them, too.
Yeah, it almost comes off as if they are so desperate in trying to paint...
Listen, I have issues with Donald Trump.
Him being a racist is not one of them.
And he certainly is not advocating for the systematic lynching of black people.
This is what they are saying out there.
These are what they conclude to be valid arguments on the left.
I watch this, I'm sitting like...
Don't you like Barack Obama?
Why do you want to blame him for systematic lynching of black people?
You want to say that Donald Trump running for president has led to more systematic lynching of black people?
It's one of those, I don't even have a place to file it in my head as I try and make sense of it.
Speaking of which, Black Lives Matter has updated their official demands.
This is on paper now.
Yes, it's on paper.
We're bringing it up on our screen.
That's good stuff.
But it's on paper, but you can see this.
So, these are the reparations for past and continuing harms.
Now, Jared, I want to see if you can notice a trend here.
A trend.
Okay, so I'm going to read these for those listening terrestrially.
Number one, reparations for the systemic denial of access to quality educational opportunities in the form.
Here's the thing.
Reparations, you're like, okay, they want to fix a solution.
But the form...
Is what matters.
They haven't even reached their final form yet.
This is transitional period.
In the form of full and free access for all black people, including undocumented and currently and formerly incarcerated people, to lifetime education.
I want, I want, I want, me, me, me, me, mine, mine, mine, mine, now, now, now.
You say that, and I do see that thread.
You do see it.
Well, this is the first one.
First point, there.
They just want free education for whether you're a felon, prisoner, whether you're a citizen or not, free education.
This is officially on Black Lives Matter.
We have it right here.
Their policies.
Number two, let's see what other suggestions they have.
Reparations for the continued divestment from discrimination toward and exploitation of our communities in the form of...
See that tricky word?
It's in the form of...
In the form of...
Guaranteed minimum livable income for all black people with clearly articulated corporate regulations.
So in the form of a guaranteed minimum livable income, which for them is at least $15 an hour for all black people, period.
So they don't specify you even have to work.
Gimme, gimme, gimme!
I need, I need, I need!
We're noticing a trend here.
There's a trend.
Yeah.
But let's go on.
You know, listen, maybe they have something valid to offer.
Maybe they have something about loaded shotguns aimed at cops and how to better handle these situations as we move forward.
That'd be a handy manual.
Number three.
Reparations for the wealth extracted from our communities through environmental racism, slavery, food, apartheid.
Okay.
Housing discrimination and racialized capitalism in the form of...
The form of.
In the form of.
In the form of.
Take a guess where this is going.
Corporate and government reparations.
Focused on healing ongoing physical and mental trauma and ensuring our access and control of food sources, housing, and land.
And if you click the link, it's basically guaranteeing food, housing, and land.
This is, I don't know if you're noticing.
I want potato chips.
You'll get nothing and like it.
That's the way I think you should respond.
I can go down the rest of the list, but I'm sure you can guess what it's like.
Again, we will have this up at louderwithcryder.com.
Ongoing physical and mental trauma.
What physical trauma would a young black person in 2016 be facing that the government would pay them for?
What, do they think this is roots?
Do they think it's like 12 years a slave?
Are they getting lashed?
You have Sean King and Rachel Dozell competing to be black!
Every day is just an America's Got Talent competition in their backyard.
They have to do it just to get to work and get paid $2 an hour.
$2 an hour, don't you know?
That's crazy.
There's nothing even close to a living wage.
Here's one thing, too.
I'm amazed that nobody else talks about this.
Is this not incredibly demeaning?
First off, I know plenty of black people, conservative and liberal, and we've had plenty on the show.
None of them are Black Lives Matter advocates, unless they're working on CNN. None of them.
Not a single one.
Not a single black person at my church who was voting for Hillary Clinton.
Not a single one is a Black Lives Matter advocate.
They assume to speak for all black people, and when they have that platform, everything you read is black people are incapable of providing anything for themselves, so all of this must be free.
Education, healthcare, housing, food, jobs, all of it must be guaranteed and free.
That's the message they want to send young black Americans.
Oh my God, do I have zero sympathy left to give these people.
Aim-loaded shotguns at cops?
You're gonna get shot.
Ask us for free stuff for all time?
No!
Glenn Beck coming up next.
Okay, sorry for the wait, Diabetes Dave.
I have some pretty serious news here.
You're going to need to make some serious changes, or we're going to have to take your foot.
What kind of changes?
Well, very strict dietary and exercise changes.
You need to lose some serious weight.
Well, how much weight do I... I need to lose.
At least a solid 50 pounds, Dave.
Well, how much does a foot weigh?
I don't know, maybe 14 pounds?
Why are you asking me this?
There's a clear path to getting healthier here, Dave.
Well, if I cut it off by the calf, how much would it weigh there?
Dave, I'm telling you, you don't have to cut anything off.
You just need to diet and exercise.
If you lose the weight, you can keep your foot.
Yeah, just take them both.
All right, glad to bring our next glad to bring our next guest on.
Sorry for the horribly unprofessional introduction.
So let me lay the ground personally.
He has a new book, Outliers, about how progressives exploit our fear for power and control.
Let me say something really quick.
Before anyone hits the tweets, when I was a 21, 22-year-old chubby-faced kid, still a chubby face, but I'm a little bit older now, back at Fox News when people thought I was too controversial, when people thought I was too out there, wouldn't give me the time of day, this guy brought me and actually had me work on his show, help this guy brought me and actually had me work on his show, help co-host his show, and has always been really, really So I have a different point of view from a lot of youngins out there who believe 9-11 was an inside job.
Glenn Beck, thank you for being with us, sir.
What an intro.
Thank you very much.
What an intro.
Well, it's true.
We go back a long ways.
You were there for the death threat that made us almost shut a show down.
And I was like, Steven, don't worry about it.
There's supposed to be a shooter somewhere in the front row.
Yeah, that's a true story.
It looks like me.
Yes, it was at the Nokia Theater in Manhattan before the Blaze existed.
It was Glenn's Insider, like his subscription service.
And I remember coming off like, damn, Glenn's gained some weight.
And I remember seeing it.
I'm like, everyone here has gained weight.
And they were all wearing flak jackets?
And I'd just gone up and done 45 minutes on Muhammad and Al Gore as stand-up.
And I'm like, no, you're fine.
I felt so comfortable walking on stage after you.
I'm like, if they didn't kill him.
Yes, yes.
Well, that's the great litmus test that is me when I go on stage.
Okay, so, you know, you were there with Fox News.
You were at HLN. You go back there.
Now you have this media empire, The Blaze.
Obviously, in this world today, we'll get to your book in the Trump situation.
You were out there in support of Ted Cruz.
You've caught a lot of flack, and a lot of the younger people who watch our show, they think, oh, Glenn's out there.
Glenn's crazy.
It seems to me a lot of them maybe haven't listened to you.
Have you felt that there's been a shift in the era of Trump of just this guy is a litmus test or we're more divided?
What's your read on that?
Because it seems like you catch some more flack now than you used to.
Are you kidding me?
I've always caught flat.
That's true.
When I was at CNN, I was the guy calling for the impeachment of George W. Bush because of what he was doing.
Right.
I've never been popular.
I was always the guy in school that got beat up.
So I'm used to this.
Right.
But, no, I think that the Trump thing has been disturbing only because it's It's just not based in anything real.
I mean, nobody's listening.
There's nobody with any credibility anymore, Stephen.
I don't trust the news.
I don't trust Fox.
I don't trust CNN. I don't trust the banks.
I don't trust the corporations.
I'm a capitalist, and I don't trust the big corporations.
It's insane what we've turned into, where you don't know who's telling the truth.
And the only thing that I have to go on is, will you say the hard things?
When it goes against you personally, when you personally are going to be hurt by it, will you still say the same thing?
That's like Bernie Sanders.
I've always had respect for Bernie Sanders.
I don't like his policies, but he's at least, he says who he is.
He's not a progressive, he's a socialist.
And he says that, and he's not ashamed of it.
Great, I could talk to that guy all day long, and I could be friends with him.
Until he stepped up to the plate and then endorsed Hillary Clinton because he got an airplane from the DNC. A democratic socialist airplane.
Very different.
It's really bad food and service.
Yes, yes, exactly.
It's a miserable private jet.
Here's one thing, though, I think that a lot of people miss, because a lot of people thought, I've openly said, I'm not hashtag never Trump, just because I think that, particularly as a Christian, I need to be consistent in that every person can be forgiven, every person can be redeemed, and I'm just not big on any kind of a hashtag movement.
I've been pretty critical of him.
I've been pretty critical of a lot of people long before...
There was two divided camps.
Now, I've listened to your show.
I've been on your show, people listening, full disclosure.
You've left room, correct me if I'm wrong, where you go, listen, I understand people who feel that in the face of Hillary, they have to vote Trump, and that's a tenable position.
I have an issue with XYZ. Am I wrong there?
Honestly, Stephen, I don't, I mean, it's so crazy.
We're living in this fascistic world now where if you don't, even the libertarians, if you don't conform to my kind of libertarian, well, you can't be a part of it.
This libertarian, isn't that supposed to be, be who you are?
I mean, it's crazy.
I don't have any problem.
I'm not trying to shove my point of view down anybody's throat.
I don't, if you vote for Donald Trump, I understand it.
Hillary is a nightmare.
A nightmare.
And if you decide to say, I can't vote for Donald Trump, I'll vote third party or, you know, I've heard some people say I'm going to vote for Hillary Clinton.
This is the point where we have...
I think that is an indefensible position.
I will say that.
And that's because...
I think that's an indefensible position.
The Hillary situation, because if someone says hashtag never Trump on principle, and then turns around and says, but I'll vote Hillary for political purposes to stop Trump, I can understand why people say, all right, you're a hypocrite.
To some degree.
I think some people think that, you know, the devil, you know, everybody says the lesser of two evils.
Well, there's another one.
The devil you know is the devil you don't know.
And so I've heard that argument.
I don't agree with it.
I'm not going to vote for Hillary Clinton.
I couldn't vote for Hillary Clinton.
But I can't, based on my principles, vote for Donald Trump.
So what do I do?
I'm not going to tell you who you should vote for because I'm not happy with my decision.
I don't like not voting for somebody who's going to stop Hillary Clinton.
I think that's a horrible idea.
But out of my principles, I can't do that.
So what do I do?
I'm not a never-Trumper.
I'm personally not going to vote for him.
But I'm not somebody who's waving the flag and saying, never-Trump, and we all ought to get together and convince more people never-Trump.
No.
It's up to you.
And I know that's been copy-pasted onto you because of your support for Ted Cruz.
Listen, we got it, too.
We had Carly Fiorina on.
We had Ted Cruz.
Who else did we have?
We had Ted Cruz, Governor Mike Huckabee.
We never endorsed any of them.
And that was probably one of the rougher interviews given to Ted Cruz by a conservative.
Certainly at the time.
Certainly at the time.
Because it was before he'd really been hit hard with those questions.
So you were a cook for Cruz anyway.
Nah, it's a sad situation.
So, okay, your book, Liars!
How Progressives Exploite Fear and Power for Control.
I think we kind of understand it in the title.
You write a lot of books, because obviously you have your publishing house, but this is a personal book for you, and has it been a long time coming?
Yeah, I mean, I didn't really know what a progressive really was.
I think it was like most people.
Progressive, it's progress, it's good.
And I didn't really know what it was until Hillary Clinton made the point.
Why do they all sound like Super Grover?
I'm not his talent.
So Hillary said, I'm an early 20th century American progressive.
And I looked that up.
Who were the early 20th century American progressives?
Gosh, man, they are nightmare people.
Just nightmare people.
They are the people that did eugenics and sterilization.
They went over to Germany and taught the Nazis eugenics and sterilization and gas chambers.
Not kidding you.
Gas chambers were a progressive idea.
So to identify as that is pretty horrific.
But then I started looking at who those progressives were and what their long-term plans were and how they actually did it.
And it's pretty phenomenal because they haven't changed at all.
In fact, if you look at what Hillary Clinton did in her speech, she was talking really Marxism.
And she said, we have the most progressive agenda in the history of America.
But everything around her was about the Constitution, was about the Founding Fathers and everything else.
In the book, we talk about, and obviously written before this, we talk about how FDR... He knew that the heartland of America didn't like progressives.
And so he said, I'm a liberal.
And he's the one that changed the idea of a classic liberal being a progressive.
He said, I'm a liberal.
And, you know, I love the Constitution.
And he started saying about all these things about the founders and the Constitution.
That's what the whole thing was about.
But in his final speech, he said, but I have the most progressive agenda since Woodrow Wilson.
It's the same thing that's happening.
They lie to you about what their real agenda is.
Well, I think, like you said, yeah, it's the same thing that's happening, only at a certain point.
Progress means you're progressing, you're moving forward.
At a certain point...
You're kind of moving past the goalposts.
You're going, alright, we've got gay marriage.
I don't know.
What's next?
Do they have to go through the surgery?
No.
What about the hormones?
No.
So what's the difference between them and a transvestite?
I don't know.
Let's just make it a legal thing.
We need progress.
We don't have anywhere else to go.
Is this what we get from the hater that wears a not-gay t-shirt?
Yes, well, it's not-gay Jared, for context.
No, I know the story of Jared, and first of all, I don't believe it.
And second of all, just a hate shirt.
Yes, it is.
It's a hate speech shirt.
Well, you should see our shirt with Che Guevara.
The progressives that they will never ask is, we're progressing toward what?
And the early 20th century American progressive answered that.
Socialism.
Communism or fascism.
Depending on who you talk to, that's what they were progressing towards.
After communism and socialism was discredited, they began to call it System X. Political System X. Because they didn't want to use those words.
And they didn't know what to call it.
So it's just kind of gone back to progressivism.
But it's an authoritarian state that has control of everyone's life.
Do you know that if you search right now on Google, if you search fascist, the first thing that will show up is a right-wing ideology, fascism, which of course is untrue.
But if you search communism, no mention of left-wing at all.
On Google.
So it's amazing.
And that's what a lot of people get mad at.
Well, Hitler was actually a progressive, a socialist liberal.
And we get so much flack for that.
And people are like, well, he wasn't a liberal.
Because now I understand the terminology has changed, so use the term progressive.
And you and I had this conversation.
I remember once at Fox, we were talking about how I was a little more bold than most.
I said, well, listen, they can't use the same arguments because...
I'm a younger person who was raised in a socialist province.
It's not a dirty word.
I had it on the ballot.
You know, like I've been raised with it.
So this idea, remember it was a dog whistle for the N-word if you said socialist, is what they used to say if you said it with a...
Now it's Bernie Sanders.
He just puts it on the marquee.
Everybody's a socialist.
Here's the thing.
Hitler was not a...
Was not a progressive.
Was not a liberal.
He was a socialist.
He was a national socialist.
Communists are international socialists.
And that's the difference.
And you can see the difference between the two parties.
The biggest difference is one is all focused on the state and and focused on the country that it's from and its heritage and everything else.
And so that's Hitler.
And he changed the flag of the Nazi flag to red to appeal to the communists and say, look, we're just like you.
We just believe in Germany.
Right.
And through that one that one state, they affect the rest of the world.
and the state of Germany just keeps growing.
The communists want to change all the workers of the world.
Their point is, we're going to do this globally together.
So when you look at the Republicans and Democrats, you can see their policies aren't that much different because there's progressives in both parties.
They both believe in big government.
They both believe in basically the same things.
The difference comes The Democrats are always saying, we have to go through the UN. We have to go through the UN. The Republicans are always saying, we don't need to answer to the UN. It's a national socialist or a workers of the world socialist, communist.
Yes, Mr.
Beck, okay, we want to keep you for one more short segment.
That way people can get to know you a little bit better.
Liars, how progressives exploit our fear and power for control, for power and control.
Oh my gosh, I'm going to get letters that I got that wrong.
Glenn Beck, everybody stay tuned.
I want to see him dancing after this one.
If not, he's no longer welcome back.
Okay, no more.
Yes, well, thank you all for meeting here at the United Nations Summit.
Yes, of course.
Of course.
Of course, I think it goes without saying, the current conflict with Russia and the Ukraine bears something.
Hey, guys, I just want you to know I'm over here and I have big bombs.
Yeah, sorry, we'll pay no mind to that.
I also think, of course, the threat of nuclear Iran is one that should be on everybody's feet.
Just so you don't have a lot of firepower, I'm going to use it against the free world.
Not now, Kim Jong, we're busy.
Oh, you're going to regret that?
Oh, you guys, I'm giving you fair warning.
You better come out and stop me.
Yes, that's all very well and good.
We have a meeting in progress.
Please, let's tell you this another time.
Oh, you don't have time?
Okay, all right, don't say I didn't want you.
Glad to be back.
There you go.
See, you have to be more staccato with it.
Glenn, it's got to look mechanical.
You're flowing too well.
All right, this is going to be...
They're going to trot this out whenever I need this.
That's what my kids are like.
Dad, please don't.
Don't do this.
That's a gift that will go away at some point.
I have to spank my kids.
I don't ever have to discipline.
I just say, I'm going to take you to the mall, and I'm going to dance in the middle of the mall.
And I've done it.
The only problem is everything's online now, so you can't embarrass them on Amazon and their cart.
True.
You've got to find another way, my friend.
Speaking, friend, the book is out, for people listening, Liars, How Progressives Exploit Our Fear and Power, For Power and Control.
Just these word twisters.
I get so bad with them.
Yeah, it's very difficult.
You know what we've found with...
Thank you.
I appreciate you insulting my intelligence.
What we've found is with these interviews, it's very different from radio.
We have a pretty big listenership on podcasts.
If people like the interview, they'll buy the book.
They don't like plugs, like people just talking about the book.
That's a big change.
We were talking about that with Joe Rogan.
It's just like they're just so used to – that's like a lot of people our age are turning off radio.
They're like, I've heard the same guest five times talk about this book.
And they'd rather just get interested in the person.
So let me talk about that.
When I was there at Fox, we were talking about this, kind of personal.
I remember there was always factions, right, in the conservative movement where people had disagreements and – And when I first got started, you know, Malkin and Andrew had their differences.
At one point, you and Andrew had some differences, Andrew Breitbart.
But neither of you, none of the three of you, because you were kind of the big hitters at that time, ever put me in the middle of it, which I was really grateful for as a young person.
And I learned, working with networks, that that's not always the case.
Was that always a conscious decision on your part?
Or was it just that I get a pass because no one really cared at that point?
I mean, you know, anything that happened between me and Andrew was between me and Andrew and what didn't involve anybody else.
And, you know, I believe I'm the kind of person that, you know, I built the blaze.
I just said this to somebody yesterday.
They said, thank you for supporting me.
I completely disagree with their opinion.
But they said, thank you for supporting me because I wrote an open letter saying, I'm not going to fire this person because they said that.
We work in a meritocracy, you know, freedom of speech.
I built the blaze to be able to have a platform for you if you were ever in trouble, or even Bill Maher.
I stood up for Bill Maher right after 9-11 when he said that the terrorists were at least brave and we were cowards.
And I stood up for him, and when they fired him at ABC, I said, ABC, what part of politically incorrect did you miss on the contract?
That's what he does.
And I believe that we should be able to all come together and work together, even if we radically disagree with each other.
And that's okay.
That's what makes us better.
We don't have to be in competition.
Both CNN and Fox Really, at least when I was there, tried to pit the shows against each other.
Yeah, I didn't want to drag you into that because obviously you still have a relationship there.
I don't.
But I remember when I first...
We don't have a relationship there.
I have Megyn Kelly and Bill O'Reilly who are friends, but I don't think they even talk to each other.
I don't know, but I don't know if they're even friends.
Well, I just didn't want to drag your, you know, if you do have relationships there.
I remember with me, the first time I was there, the first time they ever wanted to have me on air was I did a hidden camera video on Canadian healthcare.
And Sean Hannity's people called me, and I said, at this point, like I said, I didn't really know these people.
We didn't have AM radio, we didn't have Fox News in Canada.
So they called, I said, alright, okay, I'll do it.
And then about 20 minutes later, O'Reilly's people called.
And I said, yeah, okay, alright, I'll do it.
And then I got a call back from someone a little higher up who was very upset.
You need to make a decision.
And I was like, well, I don't understand the difference.
You know, there are two different shows, and you're all in the same network.
And we're saying, all right, I'll go with Hannity because he called first.
So I gave him my word first.
And let me tell you what, some producers at O'Reilly made it very clear that I was not welcome for making that decision.
I will tell you that a turning point for me at Fox was because nobody knew who I was, and I don't play that game either.
And my producer, who was a Fox producer, I had him for about a month, I think, maybe two.
We were doing the Acorn stuff, and Andrew Breitbart was the one who was providing us with all of the videos.
And we had tracked down to this funeral home.
The union was operating out of this funeral home, and that's where a lot of the money was going to.
And so I'm walking around the corner.
I'm going to go do a deal with Bill O'Reilly.
And I walk around the corner, and my producer and his producer are screaming at each other in the hallway.
And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
What is going on?
And my producer says, they stole our story.
And I said...
What story did they steal?
The Acorn story.
He's sending people down to New Orleans and reporting on that.
And I looked at Bill's producer and I said, that's fantastic.
How can we help you?
And he looked at me kind of strangely and I said, it's not our story.
It's everybody's story.
And we don't have the money to do that.
How can we help you?
And I fired my producer for that, and Bill walked around the corner, and I think, I don't know this, but I think Bill had been listening to the argument to see what was happening, and listening to what I was going to say, and he walked around the corner and he just looked me in the eye and he went, Back.
And from then on, Bill and I had a great relationship because I don't care.
I'll go and I'll be on O'Reilly.
I'd be on Hannity.
I'll be on Megan.
I don't care.
And if you're going to play that game, then you play that game.
But I'm not.
Yeah.
Together.
It was like the world's biggest high school over there.
I've talked with Not Gay Jared about it.
And, you know, at the time, I'm like, you say people, people knew you.
You had a show.
You had a big radio show.
You were coming from HLN. I was just a kid who was a stand-up comic who happened to have a few viral videos.
So I was in a different position, and it was like a ping-pong ball, you know, being sent around.
And you never did that.
That is true.
I mean, it was rough when you did the wrong show, and people would, man, they would excoriate.
Somebody I said to Hannity...
They were fighting for to be first with a guest.
And this happened all the time with all shows on Fox.
And they were like, we have to be first.
And my producer was again fighting with Hannity that we had to be first.
And I just looked at him and said, I don't care if we're first.
Let everybody else ask the questions that everybody else wants to ask.
I'll ask the questions that nobody has asked yet.
And it's like right now, Stephen.
I haven't done this interview with anybody else.
Can I go?
I was on with Ben.
We have to leave you now because you're busy.
And I can see his cue card just came out like Hickok 45 there.
And so he's been prepped on the interview.
Glenn, we have to go.
Glenn, you know these breaks.
We're hacks, but we do have breaks.
Glenn Beck, thank you for coming, sir.
Liars is his book.
And hopefully we'll have him back when he's not so busy.
Everybody, stay tuned.
Go buy it.
Or don't.
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Glad to be back.
Second hour, that was Glenn Beck, new book, Liars.
You could hear Hopper there getting into the music.
He always gets into the dance music because he thinks it's aggressive.
Producing with me in video studio as before is not gay.
Jared, follow him at notgayjared.
I fulfill my obligations.
Draw your own conclusions.
Coming up at the middle of the hour, we're going to have Karen Strawn of Girl Writes What to talk about.
Men's rights to talk about feminists.
We'll actually have Casey Burnett on later.
For the first time, she got lathered up over Barack Obama writing a personal piece on feminism.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I wonder what he's gearing up for.
Remember when I said this?
I said that this was going to be the year where everyone who was racist all of a sudden became sexist.
We wrote that column or that piece last summer, I think it was.
It was a while ago.
Yeah, well, I said it before that on the show, and then we wrote the article how bitch would be the new N-word.
That was going to be that really these are just secret dog whistles for sexism, just like socialism was a secret dog whistle for the N-word.
Now you have people running as socialists.
Democratic Socialists.
So the same thing now where if you say, gosh, Hillary's just shrill or she's unlikable, she's a liar.
Well, what you really just mean to say is bitch because you're sexist.
Sexist.
What I mean to say is bitch when I say bitch about Hillary Clinton because she's a bitch.
But what I was not saying there was that she's a liar.
So I just want to make sure that people understand.
I don't know.
If I mean to say bitch, I'll say bitch.
If you can't use...
Hillary is remarkably bitchy.
If you can't use the word...
For Hillary Clinton, it's not to be used.
It's the same thing for the word, was it slut?
For Sandra Fluke?
And everyone got so mad because Rush Limbaugh said that about her.
Listen, if you not only are having just promiscuous sex and declaring it publicly, that's your greatest accomplishment, but having so much unprotected sex that you can't afford your own birth control, the word slut was created for you.
I mean, even the old ladies in the brothels in the Old West used a lemon wedge.
So Sandra Fluke just needs to get with the program.
I don't know.
Whatever you think.
So we will talk about that.
We're going to get into Trump here.
We're going to talk about a little later on Rio and the concern here with the Zika virus going on, which...
Hello, darkness, my old friend.
I've come to talk with you again.
What's happening?
No, we're good.
You okay?
Alright, fun.
Donald Trump.
Okay, so a couple of things here.
Let's show this map right off the bat.
We have this electoral map projected.
I know people are going to get mad regardless.
He's down by 9 in Michigan.
He was down by 11, I think, in Pennsylvania, and 13 in New Hampshire.
You live by the poll, you die by the poll.
Now, when I talked about this, people were saying, why are you being so negative on Trump?
By talking about the newest polls coming out.
Listen, Donald Trump's biggest resume listing has been his polls all the time.
That's what it's been.
Whenever people have said, hey, look at the polls.
Hopper, go away.
He's trying to get under my chair here.
He's starving for attention.
Like these politicians.
So it's perfectly mirrored.
Why do you imagine when I do it?
Sometimes I get lonely.
But here's something we talked about.
We said, you know what?
You might be surprised that places like Utah and Arizona are in play.
Well, lo and behold, Utah and Georgia might be in play now.
None of the states that people talked about, New York, the Rust Belt, where Donald Trump would flip them, have flipped at all.
As a matter of fact, he's further behind.
So the only states that may flip are consistently red states.
Now, what I am saying is this.
Am I saying I'm glad to see them down in the polls?
No.
I'm never happy to see Hillary Clinton above anybody in the polls.
Even whether it's Gary Johnson.
If it were Chris Christie, I'd be upset that Hillary's up in the polls.
So of course I would rather see Donald Trump ahead of the polls than Hillary Clinton.
But it doesn't do you any favors to be delusional.
It doesn't do you any favors to lie to yourself about this.
Donald Trump is losing, and Donald Trump will lose by more if he doesn't change.
So, why don't you help?
Okay, here's what I would help.
Here's what I would love to see Donald Trump do.
I would love to see Donald Trump be respectful to everybody except Hillary Clinton.
I would love to see him be respectful to the GOP, to even other members of the Democrats, whether Bernie Sanders, and not Hillary Clinton.
Like Not K. Jared said, lie in Ted, lie in Ted.
What loses its luster when you try and toss that with Crooked.
And Crooked Hillary is nowhere near as bad as lie in Ted, by the way.
And he's never, you know, insinuated Ted's dad in the assassination.
And he's still campaigning against Ted and Bernie Sanders.
Has his advisors really sucked into it?
Does he not know that they're not part of the race anymore?
I don't know.
Well, you know, listen.
Everyone needs to be purged, so you're glad that Ted Cruz might be gone and one of the Castro brothers might replace him?
I mean, come on.
Let's put things into context here.
I would love to, even if he hates every single Republican, okay?
Paul Ryan, by the way, endorsed him.
Alright, Donald Trump hasn't...
So let's just be clear about that.
Just because Paul Ryan was asked and said, I don't think he was right to go after the cons.
Whether you agree with it or not, he did endorse Donald Trump.
Just from a strategy standpoint, I would love to see Donald Trump just be respectful to everyone and not Hillary Clinton.
You know why?
That would show people that Donald Trump is not a dirty bomb.
That would show people that Donald Trump can actually keep it in control and can laser in on an enemy.
It's not that people don't like the show, don't like it when he insults people.
I don't have a problem with it.
I find myself defending him when he makes insults that are hilarious.
Okay?
Okay.
But people need to see that it can be contained toward the right people.
People need to know that he can laser in on Hillary and mock her, and he's not just a dick to everybody.
That's what people need to see.
You may like him.
That's great.
Here's the thing.
Why is Utah in play?
Why is Arizona in play?
Why is Georgia in play?
They probably will go to Trump.
Why is there no chance that he'll win Michigan?
Listen, the heart of the Midwest is a whole other thing, right?
The heartland of America.
It's just union welfare queens.
It's an absolute shame.
Michigan, Illinois, it's horrible.
It's not the heartland of anything anymore.
It may not matter to you, and I've heard those people say, listen, I don't care.
What has conservatism gotten us?
I understand that.
That's a valid criticism.
I don't care.
Listen, aren't you tired of losing?
I just want to win.
Right?
Okay, well, what about the increasing size of government?
What about maybe socialized healthcare?
What about not seeming to know that Russia was already in the Ukraine?
I don't care.
It doesn't matter to me.
It's what the Trump supporters say.
And I understand that.
And I respect people who say, that doesn't matter to me.
I'm a single issue voter, whether it's immigration, or I just want to see the system burned down.
I get that.
Here's why Utah, Georgia, and Arizona aren't playing.
It matters to every demographic who's actually elected a Republican president in the history of ever.
The people who voted for Reagan, the people who voted for Bush, the people who voted for Romney.
It matters to them in Arizona.
It matters to them in Utah.
You know what?
Those things matter to people like my dad.
Who's a conservative libertarian.
Who likes Trump, by the way.
It matters to people like my mom.
Who are conservative immigrants.
To the United States.
Who have always pulled the lever for Republican.
And they have a problem with Donald Trump.
It matters to the conservative voters in Utah.
Donald Trump, it doesn't matter because Supreme Court, they're going to have to vote for me.
It matters to them.
So it may not matter to you.
But if you want to win, it does matter to them.
That's not me being mean to your guy.
That's offering the truth.
And if Donald doesn't step it in gear here, he is going to be wiped out.
Now here's something else.
All the polls are rigged.
No, not all the polls are rigged.
Some polls are rigged, yes.
Is the media in the back pocket of Democrats?
Sure, absolutely.
Is the right strategy to complain about it?
No.
Just like people who banked on Hillary going to jail for Benghazi.
Or the email.
How many times on this show did I say, I don't think she's going to jail.
Remember people going, I don't think we're going to run it because she's going to go to jail.
No, she's not.
It's a stupid strategy.
If you want Donald Trump to win, it's a stupid strategy.
Here's something.
I tweeted out this, okay?
Could it possibly be, to the point that I agree with, that the media's in the back pocket of the DNC, especially NBC, could it possibly be more clear that Seth Meyers and Jimmy Fallon, and of course you have Jimmy Kim, everyone, Conan O'Brien, that they're all in the back pocket of Hillary?
Well, listen, everyone agreed.
Said, yeah, of course, it's terrible.
Okay, of course.
They go out to the cocktail parties with the Clintons.
They're going to their houses in the Hamptons.
Think about this for a second.
If one of your good friends, I was talking with Not K. Jared, if let's say an Adam Baldwin or a Dean Cain or someone who's been on the show who's a relative celebrity who we're friends with ran for the most powerful office in the land, it would probably be pretty hard for us to crap on him, which is our job.
Which is also why I'll never endorse a candidate, by the way.
That's not my job.
I'll never endorse a candidate because I'm not going to be held liable for something someone else does and politicians will always disappoint you.
So people who try to say, if you don't endorse him, I'm never going to endorse anyone, ever.
It's not going to happen on this show.
So yes, they are in the DNC back pocket.
We agree with that, right?
They're in the DNC back pocket.
So, what they are saying to fellow liberals matters.
And this is what they're saying about Donald Trump.
Jared, roll clip.
I was not ready.
It's not ready?
No, now I'm ready.
Oh, now you're ready.
Okay, roll the clip.
Out of it, do as little as possible.
If for some reason Trump actually does debate Hillary, she should just say, hi, I'm Hillary Clinton, and then she should turn off her microphone, open a big bag of Skinny Pop, and watch him slowly unravel.
And then...
And then, every ten minutes during the debate, she should just shoot the camera a Jim Halpert look.
Okay.
So, here's the thing.
We all agreed, right?
They have a vested interest in getting Hillary in office.
And what they're saying is, just let Trump self-destruct.
Is that a coup?
Are they really saying, like, it's reverse psychology?
No!
That's what they believe.
They could be wrong, but what they're saying is he is going to lose just by being Donald Trump.
This is what the people who you agree want Donald Trump to lose more than anybody are saying in their own circles.
They didn't say that about Romney.
They didn't say that about McCain.
Not fans of those people.
But they didn't say, just give them enough rope to hang themselves.
They said, okay, attack Romney on Romneycare.
McCain.
Attack McCain on being a war hawk.
They had attacks because they understood that they weren't going to self-destruct themselves.
With Donald Trump, what they are saying is, let him do it himself.
That should be telling.
We're trying to help...
A Republican win here.
And just saying the polls are rigged doesn't do that.
We have one more segment right before...
One more segment, yep.
One more segment before Karen Strawn, who I'm looking forward to have on.
So, oh, yeah.
Talking jink.
Jink.
Jink, the Young Turks.
When we come back.
Because we've got so many emails.
Stay tuned.
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You can't do that.
What?
Oh, are you talking to me?
Yeah, you were jaywalking there.
This is a pretty crowded intersection.
Please, just don't do that in the future.
Oh, you mean don't do this?
No, see, you're jaywalking, and look, you could cause an accident.
Ma'am, get off the road.
Oh, I'm sorry, officer.
You mean, don't do this?
Ma'am, ma'am, that's unsafe.
Come on, get off the road, please.
Oh, ma'am, okay.
I'll get off the road.
I'll tell you what, I'll come over here.
You want to talk to me here?
Now, I'm just trying to ask you to...
How about you talk to that?
Whoa, ma'am, is that a loaded firearm?
Yeah.
That's my gut.
Ma'am, did you have that shotgun in your purse?
I don't have to answer your question.
Well, you didn't until you aimed a loaded shotgun at an officer of the law.
Ma'am, please put it down.
I don't want to escalate this.
Okay, you're right, you're right.
I'm going to put it down.
Oh, I'm going to load it!
All right, man, that's it.
You're under arrest.
What?
Put your hands behind your back.
Put your hands behind your back.
I didn't know you weren't going to arrest me.
If I'd have known, I would have never aimed a loaded shotgun at a cop.
That dance is called the crab.
It's good.
It's the crab dance.
It's a good dance.
Just get my tweet on.
What?
What do you mean your tweet?
Is that the meth head dance?
Is that what it's called?
Yeah.
We got so many emails last week about the Young Turks, obviously, because of the video.
And I made this case last week that so many people were saying, I used to be fans of the Young Turks until they went off the deep end.
And so I showed some clips of my friend Lee Doran.
And said, no, they've always been off the deep end.
You've just evolved.
You've changed.
And I've received hundreds, maybe thousands of emails this last week from both sides saying, no, I think that I'm still relatively liberal.
I think they went further off the deep end than I'd like.
And then I've received a lot of emails from people saying, you know, I think you're right.
I only saw what you posted with Lee Doran, but I'd like to see more going back, you know, if that's just an isolated incident.
So again, we're going to just, we should probably make this an installment.
We need an intro and all of it because I've just got this stuff catalogued.
I've been following it forever.
And it's just now that people, for whatever reason, can't stand the Young Turks and understand what they do.
So this goes back, was this 08?
It's 09?
Yeah.
It's old.
It's either 08 or 09.
And this is them with...
This is Cenk with Jonah Goldberg back then.
So you tell me if he seemed reasonable, right, back then in hosting Voice of Opposition.
Suspect a bit of a political conversation.
I went to Jonah Goldberg.
He's editor-at-large of the National Review Online.
He's a visiting fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, and he wrote the book Liberal Fascism, The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to Politics of Meaning.
A highly absurd book.
He's now promoting a book he's editor for Proud to be Right.
That's also interesting.
So, Jonah, welcome to the Young Turks.
Thanks very much.
I'm assuming you haven't actually read my book, but that's fine.
Of course not, because it has an insane title like liberal fascism.
Why would I read such nonsense?
A title, a title, a title.
So there you go.
So go back and watch that.
I know whether you like Jonah Goldberg or not.
I'm not necessarily the biggest fan.
I understand that he can be a little self-important, but he has some good writing out there.
Is it just me?
Does it seem like he was still, back then, kind of an ass?
Kind of an ass.
Is it just me?
No?
I'm going to go with definitely an ass.
Definitely an ass.
Okay.
Again, I think that you just weren't aware of it.
A lot of the people who claim...
Why was Young Turks?
A lot of people woke up with Dinesh, the Dinesh debate with Cenk.
You know what?
We might get Dinesh on the show.
I've worked with him in the past, and...
We kind of miss each other.
Someone on the right trying to present arguments and trying to have an actual thoughtful discussion of disagreement.
And Dinesh, whether you like him or not, has done this for a long time with Dawkins, with Hitchens, with I think even Chomsky, possibly Sam Harris.
And then it happened with Cenk.
And if you haven't seen the debate, what's so funny is I remember it went out and Dinesh said, who did you think won the debate?
And everyone was saying Cenk right off the bat.
And I remember Cenk tweeting, you know, oh, when your own people think you lost, you know, it's bad.
Well, it's not that at all anymore if you go and look and see the comments.
The discussion...
It was pretty much, you know, Dinesh would say, this is an actual, this is paraphrasing here.
I remember what Cenk said.
So, you know, Dinesh writes in his book that, you know, all black people should be grateful for slavery, but now because their parents were slavery, but now they have it better because they're in America.
How many black people here, right, are happy about slavery?
Anyone?
Of course they're not happy about slavery, right?
And he would go to the audience, and the audience would laugh like a bunch of chain seals, and then Dinesh would say, I never said that.
When you're having a debate with someone from an opposing viewpoint, it is imperative that you at least present your opponent fairly.
Oh, really?
Like when he went to prison!
He went to prison!
Right?
He went to prison!
And he goes, you know, this kind of language and approach is, you know, of being abusive toward abuse, just like your ex-wife.
If you read the divorce proceedings, right?
How many people read the divorce proceedings?
No one reads your books!
Everyone watches The Young Turks!
That's the entire debate.
At no point does he answer any of Dinesh's Why are you laughing?
Is that not incredibly accurate?
It is accurate.
It's just the most unintelligent conversation.
It's like trying to explain how a car works to an infant.
It's clearly one-sided.
We're not on the same page.
And it was moderated by that Ben guy who works for the Young Turks.
He works for the Young Turks.
And that's because YouTube is in their back pocket.
And that's why you don't want someone like me moderating debates either.
No.
Because it's just, it doesn't work.
Well, we haven't had you moderate debates.
People ask for it after Titus, just to keep us on track.
But I always hate the idea of a pylon.
Yeah.
I really don't like the idea of bringing in somebody and it's you and me debating them.
So maybe sometime when we have someone on, if we know they're going to be really upset, like Christopher Titus, having you with a pre-set question saying, okay, hey, stop, stay on the question.
But not interjecting, because you do tend to line up more to the right, and it wouldn't be fair.
So I appreciate it about not gay, Jared.
But that was the debate.
I remember, what was it, one point he goes, oh, I've been thankful for slavery, right?
Dinesh thinks slavery was great!
And Dinesh goes, of course, that's not what I said.
Why did you say that slavery is bad?
Why did you say that slavery is bad?
Of course it was bad!
Of course, slavery was heinous and is inexcusable, and I've said that many times.
What I talked about was this idea that everybody engaged in slavery across the world, across the entire globe, and people, subsequent generations, have I've been better off growing up in the orbit of freedom in the United States.
Oh great!
So now you're saying because of freedom and slavery!
You beat your wife!
You went to prison!
I just can't.
So, we try and watch opposition as much as possible.
Most of the stuff I read comes from HuffPost, Elon, all of those sites.
I just can't.
I don't know if I can do this anymore.
Some great thought scene right there, but you gotta punch the face!
You gotta punch the face!
Fire by Sean Hannity!
Fire by Sean Hannity!
Oh, gosh.
I just can't watch the Young Turks stuff anymore.
So this is where we are.
Black Lives Matter.
We talked about it earlier.
It is more logical to say that a woman aiming a loaded rifle, shotgun at a police officer, is exemplary of systemic racism when she gets shot.
It's more reasonable to the left to simply accuse someone of beating their ex-wife and pointing out that they went to prison than it is to actually debate and argue ideas.
That's where we find ourselves in 2016.
And I think a lot of people are waking up to it.
So even if politically it doesn't look very good for maybe the United States, certainly not Canada, culturally, there are some good things happening.
That's why we got people like Dave Rubin out there.
Dave Rubin and Karen Strong.
Yep, coming up too.
Karen Strong is coming up after this.
At Girl Rights What?
Men's rights activist.
And easy on the eyes too.
Alternative, but easy.
Diabetes, Dave, I'm telling you, you just need to diet and exercise.
This is a solvable problem.
Well, the good lord's gonna take me when he takes me.
No, the good lord doesn't have to take you at all.
That's what I'm telling you.
This is an entirely manageable problem through lifestyle changes.
Well...
Lord don't make no mistakes.
I don't know what that means.
Okay, but you're making the mistakes.
It's you.
You can stop making mistakes.
You can start right now.
Stop drinking that orange crush that's in your hand.
Just stop drinking it.
Yeah, well, the good Lord made it, so it's pretty good.
No, the Lord had nothing to do with making it.
That's child labor in a Coca-Cola effect.
It's bad for you.
That is exactly what it's causing.
Stop drinking it right now.
So, uh...
When you gonna take my foots?
People have been asking.
That music is from Pogo.
Pogo.
Australian, I believe libertarian, not to let the cat out of the bag.
Our next guest, one of my favorites, we've had her on quite a few times, youtube.com slash girlwriteswhatpodcast.
Gets a little wild and wooly, see?
Karen Stron, thank you for being with us.
Thanks for having me again.
Thanks for being here, sweetheart.
Oh, don't call me that.
You don't have to lie like that.
I'm not a sweetheart.
You know it.
Well, first off, this is FCC, so we know you can smoke and drink the wine, but we have to be careful with the...
F-bombs?
Yes, every now and then.
It's more so about Jared's job being difficult.
Okay, so if I accidentally drop one, you guys can bleep it out.
We can't, but come on now.
I know what's going to happen next.
Well, this is why I can't run for office.
That's the least of your concerns.
I really, there's just no way I could actually keep it clean.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, you know, Donald Trump doesn't necessarily have to, so there's a silver lining of hope.
Well, okay, but Trump, he says the most outrageous things, but he never peppers them with F-bombs, does he?
No, he said bullshit once.
Sorry, I have to bleep that.
And he said a few things.
I don't know.
I don't care.
His books, though, and if you read his off-handed interviews, a little more so.
But all right, so we've got you here, Karen Strawn, for people who don't know.
She's been on.
She educated us one time.
The light came on on women's suffrage.
But I wanted to talk about this first because you were on the now viral video with the Young Turks.
You got into a debate with Cenk once.
Yeah, that was fun.
He actually said at the outset that this is not going to be a debate.
It's going to be an information expedition.
I just want to hear your point of view so that you can inform our viewers of what you think.
Right?
Of course!
I want to hear your point of view!
Reasonable discussion.
Yeah, yeah.
And then I... I think what set him off...
Because there were some things like...
He seemed really uncomfortable through the whole thing, but he had to concede some points to me and essentially come out and say, well, okay, I agree with you on that.
I don't necessarily agree with you on that, but I don't find it completely out to lunch.
And then he just got it in his head that he was going to sort of bend me over and make me thank the suffragettes for getting me the vote.
And given what I know of, the expansion of suffrage, the expansion of the franchise, I see no reason to thank the suffragettes.
It would have happened regardless whether they were there lobbing bombs at train stations or not.
And going on hunger strikes and chaining themselves to the parliament building.
It's a far cry from the Fat Pride movement, I'll tell you that.
So, essentially, I was just, you know, I... I take a very nuanced view of the history of women's advancement.
And so I look at both sides of the coin and I look at not just the rights but the responsibilities and all of those things and how things actually went down.
And so I wasn't prepared to say thank you, suffragettes, for doing this wonderful, glorious thing.
And then he just flipped his lid.
He just, like, started to go, oh, yada, yada, yada, Karen, Karen, Karen, and women in Saudi Arabia love the burqa.
And then he was just like, give me a thank you for the suffragettes.
And if not, stop voting and make me a ham sandwich.
Yes.
So, if nothing else, he's a horrible ex-Muslim.
Yeah, it's not very halal.
No.
But, so yeah, the whole sandwich thing became a running joke among my viewers.
So you were never invited back, I take it?
Oh, no.
You know, they always close.
He and David Pakman closed their interviews with sort of, you're crazy, we'll have to have you back on.
And then they just, like, here's my phone, you know, growing cobwebs and not ringing.
Right.
So, yeah.
Yeah, well, they've never invited me, and I don't expect them to.
But I find it so funny how that, you know, everyone who was in this video, for people who don't know, every single one had a legitimate grievance with the Young Turks, either being slandered or personally attacked.
So it was just people who were bullied by the world's biggest YouTube channel having a chance to punch back.
That's all it was.
And it wasn't hard.
I have a Rolodex of people, and there are other people lining up for the next video.
Yeah.
But it's so funny how from 0 to 60, him and Anna Kasperian go to sexism right away.
Remember her sentence?
She said, F you, bitch!
Remember?
That's what she said at Alex Jones.
Like, wow!
It just goes to show you their true nature.
It is one set of rules for me and another for thee.
You sort of have this...
A lot of the feminist criticism that I get is laced with all kinds of what they would call absolutely bigoted stereotypes if it were directed at them.
Oh, you look like a man or things like that.
So you do have shorter hair than both me and not gay Jared, as you pointed.
That's right.
That's right.
And actually, I need a haircut right now.
But...
Hold on, real quick, because I want to get something specific.
So we had Lear Keith on, who you may or may not know.
She was an ex-vegan, so we agree on the veganism side.
But she's a feminist.
She was a hardcore feminist.
She's like a neo-environmentalist, but she came out to me and was like, listen, I just can't believe these kids, like the Trigglypuffs, how she's been banned on campus for speaking out against the trans thing.
So she's an anti-porn, sort of a third-wave feminist who doesn't buy into this whole new gender identity, so she doesn't really have a home.
And when she was on with me, she's very sweet.
And I offered her, I said, like, hey, do you think maybe you want to come on and do a debate?
She's like, you know, that's not really my forum.
But she said, you know, I did look into some of the stuff you talked about, and I haven't heard a lot of this before.
So I don't agree with it, but it's compelling.
And I sent her some of your stuff.
So I think there is a lot of headway being made where there are a lot of people, even informed feminists, who are realizing it's not what they signed up for.
And someone like you is a valuable resource.
Yeah, I've actually had the pleasure of receiving emails from former feminists.
Some of them were quite enthusiastic about their adherence to the ideology, to the whole sort of patriarchy theory, male privilege theory, female oppression, all of those sort of philosophical models.
And who email me to thank me for waking them up and showing them the other side of the story that, you know, because this is the side of the story that you don't tend to hear in gender studies classes.
If you do hear it, you might hear that, you know, men face discrimination too, men suffer from systemic problems too, but it's men's fault because patriarchy, right?
And men would easily be able to solve these problems because patriarchy, because men are in charge of everything.
And so it's essentially...
When they actually are exposed to the other half of the story and exposed to...
I mean, like, most people think that the suffragette movement was, you know, it was women putting their lives on the line, you know, to earn the vote for all women.
And, you know, so many of the suffragettes were racist as hell.
They were essentially saying, you know...
Women need the vote before blacks because women are responsible and Negroes are not.
What would they do with the Negro women?
We can't...
Oh, yeah.
Oh, and one of them, I forget whether it was Susan B. Anthony or Elizabeth Cady Stanton, said, if we give blacks the vote before we give women the vote, what will become of our innocent white daughters?
In other words, those blacks will have the right to, like, go around free and stuff, and they'd be raping all over the place.
Right.
And one of them said that if blacks got the vote before women did, so black men before all women, black women would suffer an oppression under their own men that was worse than anything that they suffered under slavery.
Yeah, so...
Compelling reason to gain women the right to vote, I guess.
I mean...
Yeah, no, and they, you know, so many of them, they wanted to vote for wealthy women.
They wanted £10 suffrage in the UK. Emmeline Pankhurst and Christabel Pankhurst, they wanted £10 suffrage, which meant that if you didn't have £10 to pay at the polls, you did not get a vote, which would exclude the majority of the population at the time.
Which is funny.
You know, what's interesting about that, though, is because I don't want to rehash stuff you've talked about on the show before, but as Karen has pointed out, men who had the right to vote were also eligible for the draft, bucket duty, you know.
And I think so that translates to, well, a vote is a privilege even for women where they wanted them to pay.
Like, it wasn't unheard of that you don't just get to show up and vote.
So even among women, there was a hierarchy.
Yeah, and also, you know, the act in the UK that brought women into the franchise actually brought 5 million men into the franchise.
So 5 million men in the UK were disenfranchised when women got the vote.
So why were they not allowed to vote?
I think that they did not have sufficient wealth or they did not have income to pay taxes on or something like that.
Right.
So, you know, it was essentially you had the expansion went, you know, from 1835 or so onwards.
And these brave, brave suffragettes, not a single, like there was one, one that I know of who died.
She died in a publicity stunt gone wrong.
She jumped onto the track during a horse race trying to pin a suffrage banner on the king's horse and got trampled, okay, to death.
I don't know why I'm laughing at this.
I know, I know.
Ridiculous.
It's like the perfect comic strip of feminism.
Animal abuse, making my point, and she's dead because she was incompetent.
Yeah.
And then you had the Chartists in the UK. You had a group in Rhode Island.
You had men who were fighting not just for universal franchise, but for broader electoral reforms, you know, against gerrymandering and all kinds of other things.
They were fighting for secret ballots so that employers couldn't hold their employees' votes to ransom and things like that.
And isn't it funny how that's flipped, where now it's the unions fighting against secret ballots because they want to be able to break the thumbs of people who don't want to be in the union.
That's right.
But you had these, from 1835 or so onward in the UK, and in the US you had these activists who were exiled to Tasmania, they died in prison, right?
I mean, they were shot in the street, right?
Those are the people who risked their lives for everybody's right to vote.
The suffragettes, they had a special wing of the prison built for them with hot and cold running water in the UK. Well, they have to keep their figure if they're going to go on a hunger strike.
And if you're going to make the lemon cayenne maple tea, it has to be hot.
So, okay, so here we are.
Why is this your main...
Because you're educated on a multitude of issues.
Why do you feel compelled to make this your main thing?
What is the end goal for Karen Straughan with, like you say, awakening women to sort of, I guess, the inherent problems with feminism?
Well, I think that that's the first step to getting society back on track in terms of men and women trusting each other again.
If you sort of go all the way back to the 1850s, when that first volley was sent from the feminist camp with the Declaration of Sentiments, there has been a gender war going on, right?
And it's not good for society.
It's not good for men.
It's not good for women.
It's definitely not good for children.
And it's only just now that men are starting to actually put their foot down and say, you know, we've given you ladies everything that you've demanded, you know, all along, and it's enough, right?
Right.
Now, what I'm looking at is opening people's eyes to seeing that these sort of, because this is a layered problem.
I mean, there's feminism and then there's, you know, sort of politics and the law and media and all of that stuff.
And then there's our natural chivalry that we have, I think, that all of us have.
Oh, wait, darn, hold on a second.
You had me enthralled.
We'll have to go to a break.
We'll bring her back.
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We'll have her back.
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Glad to be back.
Karen Strawn back with us.
Girl Writes What.
She was dancing.
See how she went along?
She got some moves.
No, not really.
That was one of my favorite songs way back in the day.
Andrew WK? Oh, yeah.
He's been on the show.
He's a very introspective dude when you get him going.
A lot of those kinds of guys are, you know, they act, they put on a facade of being, like, complete wild men, and then you get into their heads, and there's a lot of interesting stuff going on.
Yeah, I think particularly with the hard rockers, I think a lot of them, because they're very Midwestern, very working class, and so they tend to be a little bit more accessible, and they think a little more critically, you know, as opposed to, like, I don't know, the Nickelbacks or the L.A. sort of created bands, like Alice Cooper, Iggy Pop, Oh, well, when you look at sort of that sort of elevated music, right?
So you have these poetic kind of musicians who, you know, they write really profound lyrics and they want to make a statement and everything, right?
They get that all out and it's just they vomit it all out through their music.
But the guys who are just like, when it's time to party, we will party hard.
Yeah.
There's all that stuff still in there.
Yeah.
And, yeah.
Good point.
It's a good point in there.
I think they've run out of band names now.
What's the one I just heard?
I was like, Dear Tick.
I'm like, oh my gosh.
These people are really scraping the bottom of the barrel.
These self-important...
Clearly a country band that's gotten a little emo.
Yeah, something like that.
Oh my goodness.
Okay, so Karen, we were talking about waking up young...
Women and men.
You use the term gender war.
Yeah.
That's interesting.
So what do you mean by that?
What kind of a gender war is going on?
I don't really see a gender war.
I more so see it as attack and defend with sort of men in the castle, only it's not a castle.
They're in a moat.
And instead of throwing boulders, the feminists are just urinating in the moat and then lighting it on fire like the Cleveland River.
This is just in my own mind.
Actually, I describe it as a gender war because that's exactly the terms of engagement right from the beginning.
If you go back and you look at the Declaration of Sentiments, it really has been...
The rhetoric is of a historically persecuted people who are rising up against their oppressors, right?
And the unjust oppression that has been going on all this time.
So it's essentially, they worded it as if it was a slave uprising, you know, like a...
You know, they're in front of the presidential palace and they're going to chop off his head.
Right.
It's sort of this mob, anger, you know, all of this pent-up...
Meanwhile, the president's wife is bitching about him not hanging the curtains properly.
Well, you know, it's really...
And when you look at how men have sort of...
They've been yes-dearing.
It's true.
Like, this whole time.
You know...
Women's suffrage occurred the very same afternoon that the majority of women decided that they wanted it.
And the suffragettes actually, they changed their tactics after the early 1900s and the start of the 1910s.
They had to change their tactics to convince women that they wanted it.
And one of the ways that they did that was they essentially...
A lot of conservative women and anti-suffraget women saw politics as something that was dirty.
It was a masculine sphere.
It was full of manure and dirty knuckles and dirt under your nails.
That's an important point.
Let me clarify that for the audience who may not know, because sometimes you...
You're too close to the forest to the trees because that's a very important point that a lot of people don't realize.
Kind of like actors.
You were traveling minstrels.
It was not something that was praised.
It wasn't this sort of exotic.
It wasn't this bourgeoisie class.
You were like, oh my gosh, you're an actor.
It was like being a low-level mechanics assistant.
The same could be said in a different level of politicians.
These were not people to be exalted.
It's not like the celebrity show that it is now.
So that's important context for people to get.
It very much is.
And women, conservative, more conservative women were essentially, this is dirty, filthy, nasty business.
And women occupied at that time a place in society that was elevated in certain ways.
They were seen as the moral arbiters of society.
That's why they were so key in the abolitionist movement and so key in the prohibitionist movements.
And in lots of other social movements through history.
Tell me about the prohibitionist movement, because you've talked about that.
We haven't talked about that on this show.
That was a big, big sort of notch on the belt buckle of women.
They were the ones who were the drivers with prohibition.
They absolutely were.
Susan B. Anthony was giving an address to a dinner full of prohibitionist women, temperance union women.
And she essentially said, you know, everyone here understands that women are the moral voice of society.
Women are the moral arbiters of society.
We decide what is vulgarity.
We decide what is suitable social behavior.
And if women decided en masse, if you're American, en masse to...
To frown on any man who desired the company of women in public after he had imbibed the devil's drink, no man would ever do so.
That this is our place in societies that we are able to set these standards and the standards will be followed.
And you can see that all through.
They also used to put on plays.
They would go from town to town, and they would put on these sort of temperance plays where you would have the man and his wife, and she was just this sweet, decorative, wonderful, pure woman.
And he was a good guy until he started drinking, and then he'd turn into this horrible brute.
Sounds like Matt Gay Jared after a pina colada.
You know, and he'd start beating her and stuff.
They were actually using domestic violence against women as a piece of propaganda to encourage temperance movements and encourage people to frown on drinking.
And this is long before feminists came along in the 60s to tell us all that beating your wife is wrong.
Well, I mean, it depends on the circumstance, right?
It depends.
Especially with the swapping of gender roles.
For example, not gay Jared could easily be.
I mean, you know, you take it.
You take it how I give it to you when he's out of line.
You know what?
Let's do a web extended here for people who don't know.
She's in Canada, so it's a pre-tape.
Ah, I didn't let you know until the end.
YouTube.com slash girlwriteswhat for those listening live terrestrially.
And then go to either her channel or ladderwithcreditor.com.
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You need to simmer down.
We need to simmer down.
We need to simmer down.
We are going to have Casey coming up.
Probably Casey.
At Probably Casey.
And hold your comments because the first time Courtney came on, and now she's a favorite, people started making advances very quickly.
Very quickly.
Very quickly.
Extremely quickly.
And Casey's a redhead.
Hopper, stop squeaking your toy, buddy.
He's just killing.
He's murdering that squirrel.
He's just murdering that squirrel.
It's funny.
We get more comments about the dog.
And emails like, I love it when he squeaks.
Can you give him a camera?
It works so hard.
All it took was a rusty dog.
Two of the dumbest things that people are digging.
Speaking of working so hard, the biggest video we've ever shot, the biggest video we have ever put together was this week.
So we're keeping it under wraps.
It should be released this next week.
Yeah, we've been pretty tired.
Hot.
It actually required a mayor to sign off.
We had to hire, we had to pay, contract the local police force and get permits by insurance.
What we did, just so you know, we won't reveal everything, but we set up a tent for the Citizens Coalition for Common Sense Gun Reform in a town and a lot of walkable traffic.
We set up over a dozen firearms on the table.
That's why the police had to be there.
We locked them down to the table, unloaded of course.
And we saw just how much people knew about firearms and just how much legislation they were willing to sign, even in the face of knowing nothing.
How much?
Hint.
And I'm sure you can guess as to which firearms are legal, which should be illegal versus calibers.
We had them sign some absurd legislation as far as how to store guns and people just flat out say crazy, crazy things.
The goal, of course, is not just to make fun of these people, but to educate the viewers so we can help you learn more.
A lot of people out there...
Don't really know a lot about firearms.
And sometimes you're a little too close to the force to see the trees where you assume that most people realize the difference between an automatic or semi-automatic.
You assume that people understand the difference between a magazine or a clip or a round and a bullet.
Most people don't.
And it doesn't mean they're stupid.
Just like you and I probably wouldn't know a whole lot about firearms.
What I think is so funny is that if you observe the liberal platform and all their agendas and what they want to get done, they push education pretty hard for a lot of things.
Transgenderism, if you just need to have more education, we'll get there, we'll arrive and progress.
Their education.
Yeah, their education, their stats, their facts.
Even Syrian refugees, if you just push more education from their information.
Yeah.
You'll understand.
You'll progress.
But I've never heard anyone call for more education on firearms from the left.
No.
Never.
Not once.
Well, I will tell you this one.
The one guy came up and he said, I know for a fact that every single criminal gets their gun from NRA members.
Yep.
I said, yup.
And I said, I know.
He said, they're the worst.
I said, if someone has a firearm, I hope they never go to an NRA firearm safety course.
Yup, I hope they don't even hear the letters NRA. He's like, yup.
There are people out there who genuinely believe that the NRA sells firearms.
It is.
It is.
So that just goes to show you, and you think it's...
This is a lot of people.
Lying in their pockets.
Lying in their pockets.
And it's because Republicans and conservatives have done a really poor job.
So that's why we do a video.
That's why we did the gun show loophole.
That's why we do these videos.
So try and do the job that apparently people with all the money don't want to do.
We don't have any money.
And this was interesting too.
You talked about it.
We were doing research for this video, as we always do.
And the mass shooting statistics are really misleading.
A lot of people don't know this.
Mass shootings, as they're usually used right now when you're reading, include any shootings where four or more people...
Are shot or killed?
Well, that's the trick.
Sometimes it's both.
Sometimes it's just violence.
Sometimes it doesn't always count fatalities.
And sometimes they don't even list what the criteria is at all for the foreign war.
That's only some studies.
Some just call anything.
It's really...
Skewed on purpose.
Yeah.
Well, let's give the leftists as much leeway as possible.
Let's assume that all of their studies are very clear four deaths or more, which it isn't.
Sometimes it's four people shot, sometimes it's less, but let's assume it's four deaths or more.
That includes all of the gang violence.
That includes all of the knocking over liquor stores.
That includes all of the bank robberies, right?
That includes where...
There are clear targets and there is an end goal there.
So that's important to note, too, because when you read about mass shootings, people think, oh my gosh, there are that many this year?
There are that many Virginia Techs?
There are that many Dylan Roost out?
No, there really aren't.
When we think of mass shootings, most people, right, you think of someone indiscriminately shooting people just because.
Do you really put the Bloods and the Crips in a gang war on Crenshaw Boulevard in the same boat?
As a Columbine?
Do you really put, let's say, someone knocking over a convenience store, the owner shoots back, and four people get shot?
Do you really put that in the same category as a Virginia Tech?
I know I don't, but the statistics that people throw out there do.
And when you remove those...
We haven't been able to do this officially, but it's even less of these assault rifles used in these mass shootings.
It's almost entirely handguns.
I think a lot of people, when you read that, they're thinking, well, mass shootings?
It's not at all.
The vast majority aren't what they're thinking.
Hopefully, we've helped people on that.
Hopefully.
Enlightened a few minds.
And you can maybe send me an email if you think that I've gotten anything incorrect.
Not Gay Jared, we talked about this.
Not Gay Jared has an announcement this week.
He has a secret to reveal.
I don't know what it is.
And he wanted to talk about it on air.
Jared, the floor is yours.
Yeah, I have the Zika virus.
Hello darkness my old friend I've come to talk with you again Because a vision softly creeping Left its seeds while I was sleeping And the vision that was planted in my brain Still remains Within the sound of
silence.
Yeah.
You have the Zika virus?
Yeah.
How'd you get it?
Rio, I think.
Okay, what's the story?
How did you get the Zika virus in Rio?
Rather.
Rather not talk about it.
Well, you can't just bring it out and not talk about it.
Yeah, I'd rather just not.
Does it hurt?
It's the fucking Zika virus.
Of course it hurts.
Okay.
I thought it was...
I mean, people were...
You know, you teased it.
I thought there was going to be something bigger that you were going to do, or maybe you're going to launch your own show that would be a part...
You know, when we never go daily, that might be a part of some kind of network or something where you would have your own...
No.
Just be sensitive.
Okay.
Well, I'm sorry.
I can't know.
No, you do.
Oh, I'm sorry to hear it.
I don't know a whole lot about the Zika virus, to be honest.
I kind of figured after the Ebola scare and it wasn't nearly as big of a deal.
I haven't really been paying attention to the Zika virus.
Is it contagious?
Well, they said it just affects most of the infants, but I can attest they are wrong.
Well, that's problematic.
Speaking of problematic, remember how all the feminists really wanted, and we'll talk about this more with Casey, all the feminists really wanted women in combat roles in the military, and the women were getting pregnant because they wanted to be getting out of the military.
Well, the roles are open now.
And women aren't doing it.
They're not going in.
There are plenty of vacant spots.
So what do you think?
Yeah, we have this up at ladderwithcrowder.com.
We wrote about it.
Courtney wrote about it.
So what do you think that's going to lead to?
They're going, we don't have any women.
We opened this up.
We made a huge stink about it.
Well, why?
Because it's hard.
What do we do?
How many pull-ups do I have to do?
One?
Crap.
Can we make it zero?
Can we just do the dead man's hang?
It wasn't that long ago the woman went AWOL. Remember that?
Yeah, I remember that.
She's still alive.
Is she alive?
She's alive.
Oh, okay.
Because we got a lot of flack for that one.
We were like, she could be dead!
She could be dead!
I'm like, well, you know, your chances are...
Awfully dead.
So that happened.
And something else, too, while we're talking about feminists, feminists have been attacking the new Wonder Woman.
So there's the new Wonder Woman trailer out, and the social justice leftists are really mad about...
I mean, this is a kick-ass superhero, everything feminists claim they want, empowered.
Watching the trailer is even...
I admit, I haven't even been pretty excited about it.
I think it looks better than some of the other things DC's been putting out, so...
Well, they haven't put out anything good.
No.
And the main reason is because she's Israeli.
Mm-hmm.
So the tweets, here we go.
My six-year-old watching the new Wonder Woman trailer is an ex-IDF Zionist who supports the occupation and oppression of Pallas, the person ran out of tweets.
We need WOC superheroine movies now.
There's no need to always give white women a massive head start on progress.
We wanted Wonder Woman, instead we got a white Zionist.
Oh my god.
So it's never enough.
Here's the deal.
Are you starting to see that appeasing crocodiles is futile?
Listen, nobody was really clamoring for a Wonder Woman.
I know the comic books, but Wonder Woman is not the best comic book.
And she wasn't even really a standout from the reaction of Batman vs.
Superman, which was awful.
So they make the Wonder Woman, and the problem is she's Jewish.
You can't write this.
So that, in tandem with the fact that we want military spots, we go, oh, no, fine, you can be in the Wonder Woman.
No, we want to be in combat.
All right, fine, you can be in combat.
We want to lower standards, but you said it was because we want to lower the standards!
All right.
No one's joining.
Lower them more.
I mean, it's just, it's never going to be enough.
So wait, hold on a second.
Are you saying now to protect my country?
I have to be able to do push-ups.
Push-ups?
Are there refreshments?
Yes, push-ups.
Not to use a term clearly designed by patriarchy to belittle women's physical achievements.
Male push-ups?
Yes, male push-ups.
Ah, crap!
I can't just do them on my knees, like kind of on my knee like downward dog.
No.
Darn it.
Well, I guess this is about the time where I have to acknowledge that biologically, women are physically weaker.
That's what we were saying all along, and you called a sexist.
Remember that?
We said, like, hey, you're not good in combat because you're weak, because you're women.
I know, but we just, you know, we're past that.
So now we just ask that you just eliminate push-ups from the equation.
Well, no, what about, like, an essay?
Like, I was very good with persuasive essays.
Can we do that?
I could just, like, persuade the enemy.
I'm very good.
I'm very convincing.
Did he Tupperware for anything?
Can I organize some bullets?
Speaking of this, we're going to have Casey on next to talk about this.
Barack Obama wrote his screed on feminism.
Is Hopper announcing his VP during this break?
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We're still waiting for him to kind of come live here.
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I don't know what NotKJ was doing.
That's weird.
I regret everything about that.
I don't know.
During the Dial theme song?
I regret everything, Steven.
Well, you have a lot of decisions to regret.
It's been a rough week.
Do you ever just go to bed at night and think about decisions you've made and go, I imagine you do that quite a bit.
Yeah, no, I do.
I lay there and think, what series of decisions did I make to end up in this spot right here?
I went terribly wrong.
You know who else is asking themselves this?
Is our next guest.
Now, we don't have her theme song ready because we're going to draft it up from scratch because she is now being hired to the team full-time.
We're glad to introduce her.
You've read her articles.
People have said, why haven't you had her on the show?
It's because she doesn't like the show that much, and I don't blame her.
Casey at Probably Casey, thank you for being with us.
Thanks for having me.
Okay.
And that's not true.
I love the show.
This is true.
She has to say that.
So you were actually, before the whole golden ticket deal, we did this, and you were the person to make it through with hundreds of submissions.
And I think people are just, they've become huge fans with your writing.
So, you know, for everything else that happens working with me, that's kind of nice.
Okay.
Oh yeah, it's one of the perks.
Yes, it's one of the perks.
Other people get paid vacation, bonus structure.
She gets people going.
I liked your article.
And creeps are just hitting on her because she's a redhead.
So, Barack Obama, you wanted to talk about this.
I said, like, listen, Casey, you know, you write so well.
What is it that really gets your go?
What do you want to talk about?
And you said, yeah, today, the Barack Obama article about feminism.
Oh, yeah.
Yes.
For those who don't know, sort of give us a summary of it first, what he wrote.
Okay, so he wrote something for Glamour, which is kind of odd in the first place that they're giving him a platform, because I thought feminists said if you don't have a uterus, you don't get to have an opinion.
So that's a little weird.
Well, the jury's still out on Obama with that.
And I also hear that he ghostwrites some incredible sex tips for Glamour as well.
Okay, I didn't know that.
Not many do.
So he's talking about how feminism has, you know, done so much for our country and why he's a feminist and all the things that feminism has accomplished in the past eight years.
And my biggest issue with it is I'm not even sure what feminism has accomplished in the past 20 years, even.
Right.
Besides maybe the opportunity for a female draft, which has been talked about.
Women don't want to go in the military, period.
I think you and Courtney wrote about that this week.
Well, it's not very fun for women.
No, and you're a tall woman.
I mean, I'm not letting the cat out of the bag.
You're a pretty tall, robust woman yourself.
Yeah.
And you're incredibly weak compared to the average man.
That's true.
Even the strongest women are.
It is absolutely true.
When I first met Casey, she's very tall.
Are you like 5'11"?
5'9".
Oh no, she's rounding down.
I was wearing heels.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
My wife does that.
That's how you know a woman is really tall when they round down.
It's kind of like when Jared tries to claim he's six foot.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And he rounds up.
Anyone from 5'9 upward as a guy rounds up to 6 foot.
That's a good point.
So you're girly.
You're independent, right?
You work.
Feminists will say, well, we paved the way for you.
Why do you say we haven't done anything in the last 20 years?
And then we can get back to the Obama thing.
But it seems like there are a lot more women like you, especially younger women.
I see you've just rejected it outright.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, and it's good that they have, too, because my biggest issue with feminism is that they've hijacked this identity for all women, and they think that when they speak, they speak for every woman, when clearly that's not the case.
And like you said, you're seeing more and more women coming out and denouncing this, saying, no, you don't speak for me.
It's the same problem that you run into with groups like Black Lives Matter, right?
They say that they speak for everybody with dark skin, That's crazy.
You don't know the story of every single woman.
Especially when a lot of the things that feminists are doing is causing more harm than good, right?
So, for instance, they're talking about women being more independent.
That's a great thing.
Nobody's saying that women shouldn't be able to survive independently.
What we're saying is that can also be true at the same time as the family unit having value.
It sounds reasonable discussion!
Where's Obama lining up in this column?
I'm guessing probably not on your side of the lecture.
No, not at all.
He's very pro-feminist.
And the thing is, I don't think Obama cares about women.
And the more that I hear people like Obama talk about this, the more that I think, in Obama's instance, for sure, too, because he was raised by a single mother, right?
I think that's how he copes with the fact that he didn't have a father.
You know, the solution is, well, I didn't need a father.
Right.
That's a good point.
Now, do you talk at all about it?
I know you've written about it with your situation and your father.
Do we want to get into that at all?
Oh, yeah.
I have no relationship with my dad whatsoever.
I was raised by a single mother.
And I very much see the point.
I see the place where feminists are coming from.
I see what they mean when they say that women should be able to vote and have land.
We've established that.
That's been done.
It's not 1920 anymore.
We don't need feminism anymore.
Right.
Well, and Karen Strong has talked about that too.
The right to vote isn't exactly the way people portray it.
It wasn't men just like, you know, they weren't like blocking shots to the net.
Rejected!
No vote!
Saying at Rite Aid with birth control.
Get out of here!
Right.
Well, you talked about that, because it really did strike me for someone who's pretty young, Casey, where you talked about that.
You said, listen, I was raised without a father, and you said, you know, the Lena Dunham situation, or Jennifer Aniston, whoever we were talking about, you said they go out and they praise this single motherhood as a choice.
You said if they really care about women, you know, as someone who was raised without a father, they wouldn't encourage that.
Exactly.
Yeah, and that's the thing.
I think there's a disconnect there.
A lot of these girls are growing up and they're saying, I want free birth control.
I want free abortions.
And all that's fine and well.
If that's what you want, then fine.
But don't pretend that you're doing it for any other reason besides the fact that you want it for yourself.
Because any woman who cares about the welfare or the livelihood of other women is going to think, wait a second, what are the repercussions of having free birth control?
What are the implications of having free abortions?
Well, that encourages women to go out and sleep around, and if that's what they want to do, fine.
But you have to understand that there are still consequences that come with those actions, which are STDs, getting pregnant before you're ready.
This is true.
You can do another segment, right?
Yeah, okay, of course.
Well, this is my employee.
I'm asking her.
No, I want to talk about that specifically, where you just talked about the ramifications of your own sexual decisions, because that's something that's lost.
And since Casey's been an open book here and gotten into some personal stuff, I have written about it.
And I'm always amazed at the reaction sometimes from feminists or even from libertarians and leftists who say, why would you maintain this position?
For people now who are listening saying, well, that sounds reasonable, what Casey just said, you need to understand that there are thousands of other people right now listening to Casey, and their brain is just exploding with rage.
So we'll come back with At Probably Casey.
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And I'm so sorry to say it's already happening.
Her Twitter feed is nothing but people hitting on her.
It's a nightmare.
Run, Casey.
Which is why she used to have her tweets protected at probably Casey.
Casey, I apologize, but I think you knew this was going to happen.
Yeah.
It happened before I even came on the show.
Well, you know, I've talked about this, and I don't know if you're aware of this.
Blonde, brunette, it's a preference.
Redhead gets into fetish territory.
You're like, mmm.
Redheads.
Have you noticed that?
It's disturbing.
Sometimes.
You sound like a little Diabetes Dave going on there.
A little Diabetes Dave there.
Yeah.
But, you know, a big part, people were thrilled that you were wearing a Jurassic Park shirt, and people really liked what you had to say.
Even some lesbians were hitting on her right away.
Oh.
You know, and Kate's very nice, you know, but doesn't necessarily swing her back.
Well, if it makes you feel better, it's usually just old people and gay men for me that hit on me all day long.
This is true.
I do really well with the cougars.
The cougars.
That's my demographic.
My wife and I have an agreement.
If it's a man at all and we need to return something, we need customer service, she gets it done.
If it's a cougar, I step up to the plate.
We share the burdens.
Okay, so Casey, I wanted to talk about this because you were talking about sexual ramifications.
If people read your work, they know that you're a Christian.
And you've talked about that, that you're not...
I don't want to get into...
Super detailed, but she's not crazily promiscuous, to say the least.
I was asked by someone recently, because I wrote about not having sex with my wife and I. We wrote about that.
I wasn't saying, like, if you don't do this, you're going to hell.
But I wrote about it, and someone said, why did you do that?
Jared was there.
This is crazy.
Nobody does that.
The reason I did it is exactly because people who don't think that, that's what they think.
People who don't do it, they think that way.
It's only crazy people do it.
The reason I wrote about it is because I know there are a lot of people out there, like you, who are funny, nice, clever, edgy, thoughtful people, who also have made those decisions and feel incredibly alone because, again, the media says if you show up and you're abstinent, you're the serial killer, right?
Or you're the mean cheerleader.
So that's why I wrote it.
And I've always wondered if people out there like you who are younger sort of read it that way.
I got a lot of emails, but hopefully people said, oh, okay, I'm not the only one doing this.
Yeah, it resonates with me when people speak up about issues like that.
And the thing that a lot of people miss, too, is that the point of writing those things aren't to convince people who have already made up their minds.
It's for the young person, in this instance, the young girl, who's been told her entire life, no, you go sleep around, you go get free abortions, you go do whatever.
You don't need a man.
Now you just rely on the government instead of the man.
But that's besides the point.
But, yeah, I mean, it's not to yell at those people or say, oh, you know, anybody who's not abstinent or anybody who's a feminist is stupid and I hate them.
Yeah, a lot of them are stupid, but the point that you're making is that for the people who are on the fence, for the people who think differently than what society is telling them, you're not crazy.
Yeah, and not only just people on the fence, but if you think about it, you watch shows like, well, I mean, any show on Fox, any show on cable, right?
It's, well, gay people have been asked, so we need to make sure to include them, right?
So they are incredibly overrepresented.
I think 14% of films on TV include main gay characters, whereas they represent under 2% of the population.
There's no problem with that if they're responding to market forces, but it's because of a proactive agenda.
Whereas they're certainly not representing young Christians, maybe like yourself, who are certainly ostracized.
Every time they tune it in, you're the crazy one, right?
If you're a young Christian, you're the racist.
You're the self-loathing woman.
Secretly, the husband has beaten the crap out of the woman when she's a Stepford wife.
That tends to be the representation.
And so I think a lot of people forget that, you know what, that little kind of maybe Christian homeschooled kid...
It's probably getting more flack in 2016 than the bisexual in transition.
Oh, definitely.
Now it's like they carry it around like a banner of pride, you know?
Well, there literally is a banner of pride.
Exactly.
The pride of pride, that's where.
Yes!
Exactly.
But no, very much so.
It's more normal now to be bisexual or queer or asexual or anything.
You know, you can pretend to be a dog and identify that way.
It's true.
What's startling to people now is if you say, actually, I'm a Christian or I'm a conservative.
Right.
And they're outcasted.
And they're creating a narrative, really.
And you have to wonder why.
I think I know why.
And is it tough for someone like you?
I don't want to get into the politics or the Trump stuff, but I know you've got opinions on that.
And let's keep everyone hitting on you first, because no matter what you say about Trump, then it's going to get angry.
Obviously, you have a significant other who is male.
You're a strong, you're kind of a firecracker.
He's a nice guy.
What is that like?
I mean, it's always amazing, like my wife, Courtney, you, conservative women who can't stand feminists, are always the strongest, most opinionated women I know.
I don't know, that's entirely anecdotal, but that's been my experience.
Oh yeah, and I've met plenty of strong, smart women too.
And these are the women that feminists pretend to be, but really aren't.
And they're the women that they attack too.
So harsh, but accurate.
But even when Blake Lively said something, everybody was attacking her.
And a lot of it comes down to their attractive women that these feminists hate.
Right.
But yeah, I mean, with Johnny, with my boyfriend, we have a lot of discussions about issues like this.
And sometimes people look at us and they think, you know, because we defer to one another's judgment and we talk about issues proactively, they think...
Oh, is he controlling?
You know, like, does he decide things for you?
And people have forgotten the importance of having a relationship with a significant other beyond just, you know, sex or lust.
That's a good point.
Yeah, if all of a sudden you defer to maybe your boyfriend or your husband's judgment, they think that you've got her locked in a meat locker like Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise.
Yeah, and that's the thing, too, is feminists have a big issue with the family unit, right?
Yeah.
And any time when Obama's talking about like, oh, there's still so much work that needs to be done culturally, I'm wondering what work does he mean?
Because we've already reached a lot of those, like a lot of those barriers have already been broken.
And any time you go to break a barrier or remove a fence, you have to question why it was there in the first place.
That's a good point.
I think they just want the ceiling to be broken.
You know, they did this with Barack Obama.
It's time for a black person.
This is what they have to do now.
It's time for a woman.
And I think you'll get probably a significant amount of women who will be tricked as a voting bloc who will pull the lever because she has a uterus.
I think that will happen, unfortunately.
And I think, like you said, there are women like you out there who will think independently.
Although, my general read is most women don't like Hillary Clinton.
I don't know women who are like, you know what, she's someone I just find her warm and sincere.
Almost everyone...
I've never met a Hillary Clinton supporter.
I don't know anybody who likes her.
But you have friends who are liberals.
Oh, yeah.
They just don't like Hillary Clinton.
No, they're pro-Bernie.
That's me, too.
Have you ever met a really...
Oh, no, that's not true.
My one drunken neighbor.
That's true.
I remember she was...
That's true.
She literally said, single white...
I mean, not neighbor.
It lives around here.
One said, single white female.
I'm all Hillary.
And I said, oh, what about, like, at this point?
I said, like, what about a Carly Fiery?
No!
She was drunk.
That was actually her.
That's pretty much what she looks like and sounds like.
No one will appreciate that impression, like my Dinesh impression, but it's pretty good.
It's pretty good.
It's pretty good.
You've been working on it for a while.
I've been working on it for a while.
No!
That was what she said when I said anything other than Hillary Clinton.
Okay, so listen, we have to let you go, probably Casey.
Where's the best place for people to hate on you?
There it is right there.
Listen, seriously, be nice.
I know her boyfriend, he's a great guy, and we love Casey.
And he has more than shotguns.
And if you like what she has to say, you will absolutely love her writing over there at ladderwithcrowder.com.
Casey, I would say your first time was successful.
The feedback is positive across the board from the libertarians, the men who love you, and the lesbians who love you.
So we'll have to have you back.
Good to know.
Okay, thank you, Casey.
Jared, hang up on her.
She needs to get back to work.
Speaking of which, it's funny, we were just talking about this.
One thing, I'm getting these tweets going, why would you have Glenn Beck on?
This is why Republicans lose.
Why would you lock arms with Glenn Beck?
Did I lock arms with Christopher Titus?
Did I lock arms with Imam Shaudhry who called for my death?
Firstly, I agree with Glenn Beck on a lot.
Just like Penn Jillette does.
Just like people who are tweeting that probably would.
Probably would.
But there are a lot of things with which I disagree with him.
But this is the thing.
Conservatives, they're okay if you have a liberal on who they hate.
Oh, that's clear.
But if you have a conservative on, like Austin Peterson, I couldn't disagree with Austin Peterson on immigration more.
But he was a good guest.
And it was a dynamic conversation.
This is why Republicans deserve to lose.
If your response is, uh, no, I'm a pass, because Glenn Beck disagrees with me on anything, you deserve to lose.
You deserve to lose.
Sorry.
Just like I didn't lock arms with Titus, Zach Ford, D.L. Hughley, Phil Advise.
Take your pick.
It's unbelievable to me.
It's the same thing.
It's these right-wing social justice warriors.
Ah, you pointed out to the poll that Trump was...
Yeah, I did.
I pointed out a poll.
I said, this is what Trump should do to win.
Attack Hillary.
Why would you do it?
Well, I did it!
I did do it!
Get over it!
Some people are just so remarkably thin-skinned.
It's like the social justice warriors.
We were talking about this.
They get so mad.
Someone sent us a good example, some emails from last week, where we did the Swiss Family Robinson sketches.
For people who didn't listen, if you're listening terrestrially, we put in these sketches in the podcast, on YouTube.
We enjoy dark humor.
Yes.
And it's the Swiss Family Robinson.
The second generation turns out to be developmentally challenged.
Think about it.
How does it work?
Flipper kids.
There's only...
Now, they tried to change it for the movie.
In the original story, there was no one else in the island.
It was only Swiss Family Robinson.
Yeah.
So if the lineage was going to continue...
So, people said, I really wish you didn't make fun of mentally handicapped people.
Okay.
The joke is not about mentally handicapped people.
The joke is the fact that Swiss Family Robinson was such poor writing, they didn't think about how to continue the story.
Until they had a little girl way later.
Right.
Exactly.
Exactly.
With a British girl?
Yes, they had to at her.
Like, oh, jeez, this is going to get really graphic.
Really weird.
Just like when we joke, we had the cancer jokes when my father was on our, or the Bill Cosby, it's not, you're not joking about, ha ha, someone has cancer, you suck.
People think because you're joking about someone who happens to be black or happens to be mentally special needs, retarded, whatever you want to use, or happens to have cancer, that you're joking at them because of that.
And it's the same thing with Donald Trump.
People think that because you say, gosh, these polls don't look good, that you're saying, ha ha ha, you suck, I'm glad those polls don't look good.
No, this is something that's important with humor, and I hope people really do take this away, because we still get occasionally people who email me.
So I think, you know, we'll probably get it for Diabetes Dave.
You know, you shouldn't make fun of people for having diabetes.
We're not making fun of people like, you suck, I hope you died because of diabetes.
We're making fun of a situation.
Here's a situation.
We have a guy named, let's call him R, on our block, who is severely retarded.
We've talked about him before.
And he comes over and he just mows my lawn and then shakes me down for money.
Jared knows this.
He comes over and he goes, Hey, buddy!
I need...
$20!
I go, what?
What did you do?
I mowed your lawn!
I was like, I didn't need you to do it.
Someone already mowed it.
Oh, can I have my money?
I go, that's not, listen.
And so I've had to set a rule up with his dad.
I'm like, listen, make sure your son, I'm glad to have him mow the lawn, even if he's not mowing the lawn, if I have someone else do it.
But I just don't want him coming over, you know, knocking.
And he won't leave until he gives me the money.
Until I give him the money.
And like, I was telling a friend, he was laughing.
Now, we're not making fun of this kid for being retarded.
The gag, the funny part is this is a special needs kid who has a brilliant scheme.
I mean, he is shaking down people.
This guy is making money left and right.
If you know my neighborhood, everyone at the bank knows him because it's constant small deposits.
He's bringing in money.
He just shows up at your lawn, mows it, and what?
Are you going to not give the money to a special needs kid?
Then you're the guy in the block.
I can't believe you didn't pay him.
Half the time, he doesn't even finish mowing the lawn.
So he's smart enough to know that he can use it.
That's a perfect example.
The joke is not, aren't retarded people stupid?
It's okay to joke about someone if they're in a minority group.
Really, Steve, you should pick up after Hopper sometimes for the poor guy.
I want you to remember that one time.
Oh, I know.
I didn't expect it.
He's like, girl, I'll poop on my shoe.
It's because I didn't know you were coming over.
That's illegal.
We're going to wrap this up after the break.
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I will strike you at the heart of your civilization.
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The humanity!
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That was intense.
That one always gets a little dark too.
The swimming?
Yeah.
Yeah, the swimming dance.
More so the drowning, to be specific.
It's true.
I'm amazed at how many people who dance along to the podcast.
It's a lot of fun.
They should tweet it into us.
Tweet their dances?
We should have like a golden ticket dance contest.
We should.
We'll have more time for that if we have- With no prizes.
When we never go daily.
Never go daily.
Which people should stop tweeting us all the time.
People keep asking, they're just rude fans.
Respect a lot.
What was that about this week?
Oh, yeah, I just, you know.
So, drinking from my mug, this is the last.
Next week is a big show, by the way.
So, we have Gavin McGinnis on, who's very pro-Trump.
Yep.
And we're going to have Ben Shapiro on, who is obviously very anti-Trump.
So watch.
Watch what will happen.
The war of the minds.
Watch what will happen.
The people who don't like Trump will be happy that Gavin McInnes is on.
The people who love Trump will simply crap all over Ben Shapiro.
I predict that.
This is the one thing I will say about the Trump scenario.
I've not seen nearly as many people, and that's why I'm not a never-Trumper, because I really think it's indefensible to be never-Trump on principle and vote Hillary.
I have very little respect for those people.
The never-Trump hashtag I'm with her?
None.
Sorry.
Zero.
But I haven't seen as many people just going, you know, I don't think I can vote for Trump, using him as a litmus test for everybody else.
You heard Glenn Beck saying, I understand people who vote for him.
Ben wrote about that.
But I've seen a lot more Trump people saying, if you don't endorse and get behind him and specifically support him...
We're going to destroy you.
And that, to me, is really authoritarian, using a man as a litmus test.
And bending over to kiss the ring for another man is very cuck, I guess the term would be.
A little cuckish.
So, we get asked that a lot.
We're never going to, we can't endorse candidates.
I mean, think about it.
It's just, it wouldn't be consistent.
When people go, you know, look at Jon Stewart.
He's at this rally.
Look at Trevor Noah, who's doing...
Yeah, you know what?
And I get it.
They're supposed to be entertainers.
And we're way more straightforward about the fact that we lean to the right than those people admit leaning to the left.
But I still don't want to be on the hook for something someone else says.
You know, we had Ted Cruz on.
I think Ted Cruz has said some things that make me go, why?
Why would you?
This is poor decision-making for a Harvard grad.
And that's why I've never endorsed Ted Cruz.
We've gotten away from it even more, I feel like, because we've just seen all of them.
And when you peek behind the curtain, you're going, gosh.
I still get emails from people from these candidates sometimes.
And one person just emailed me this week saying, hey, you're following someone who tweeted out this false story about this candidate, and just so you know.
And I said, why would I care?
Yeah.
As though it's my job to go, oh, I'm going to unfollow anyone who says something bad about this candidate because this candidate has been on our program.
I don't care.
I won't retweet it if it's fake.
We still get these emails sometimes.
I'm just going, I don't.
I don't really care.
The more you know, too, on the flip side of that, the more you know, the worse my opinion is on things.
I wish you could just, like, to not know the inside baseball would be better.
To not read the headlines and not read the things would be so much easier some days.
We got a lot of tweets asking for more inside baseball stories at Fox News.
Oh, yeah.
Should be told, I wish I had...
You know, someone who was, I think, a Chewbacca's lover said, I bet you'll write a...
Or maybe it's Eldridge there who tweets us that I bet you could write a book on it someday.
Maybe I could.
No one wants to hear that, you know, badmouth your former employers.
But, um...
Yeah, I'm not engaged here.
But I don't have as many stories because I really removed myself from it.
I will tell you this, when people talk about, maybe I'll talk about it someday, as far as mental health issues, just when I lived in New York and was there really under a contract for a long, I was very, very unhappy.
And that was where I probably destroyed my body.
I was doing Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu like seven times a week and weightlifting a few times a week.
And just because I would fill every minute of my time with something because I was so miserable.
I hated New York City.
I really was becoming disenchanted with the industry.
I was very unhappy.
I didn't have friends there.
I didn't have family there.
And, you know, I had a pretty serious injury, which was a straw that broke the camel's back.
I've talked about that, where I had severe motor function loss in my legs from a back injury.
And if you look at the pictures of that Christmas, I lost about 35 pounds in the span of a month.
And some of that was they put me on painkillers, too.
So that gives you a glimpse.
I was severely unhappy working for other people and peeking behind the curtain.
But because of that, I removed myself from it quite a bit.
So I don't have as many stories, you know, as perhaps the women who come forward with Roger Ailes.
Have you read those?
They are hysterical.
Oh, they're good.
They're good.
It's almost as funny as the phone sex transcripts, if you can still find them.
Oh, Lord.
They are just absolutely hysterical.
So I don't have anything like that.
The worst I have as far as sexual harassment, as I told you, was an Israeli gay wardrobe stylist who worked on one of the shows who used to hit on me.
But he was actually very nice.
He was the better wardrobe stylist when I went in because most of them would just look at me and throw their hands up.
I got a call.
Here's one.
I got a call from an executive at Fox, and I swear to you, There was a silence.
He just said, Can you wear something nicer than a polo?
And he said, just like that.
Like a father scolding his child.
And the thing is, I thought, like, that's better, right?
A polo.
I would have gone in and maybe a t-shirt and a blazer or a button-down.
And the button-downs I have aren't really like Brooks Brothers.
And I just remember that was the moment where I'm like, oh my gosh.
And then they wanted me wearing suits.
We've showed up to a lot of events of people wearing suits and it's just...
It's just us.
No.
Jeans and t-shirts.
I don't have anything against suits, but I don't like being told that I have to wear one.
So maybe one day we'll give you a little bit more of the inside baseball.
That changes a lot of our outlook, for sure.
And that's one thing where we always try and remove ourselves from it with this program and see it through the lens of someone probably listening.
I'd say looking at our demographics and our audience is probably about 65 conservative, maybe libertarian, and 35 not.
And the average viewer is probably a young, moderately conservative male, college-educated male.
And a lot of people just...
You know, Twitter isn't really real life.
The social media wars, the fights, they're not real life.
You've got to get out there sometimes and have these relationships with people, have conversations with people like we do with this gun video that will come out next week.
You would be amazed as to some of the common ground you think you have and you realize that you don't.
And so I think the most important step in educating anyone or making really any headway culturally, politically, is knowing where that common ground actually is.
Common ground is not virtuous in and of itself.
But it is information that you need.
It's a stepping stone you need to understand, okay, what's the case I need to present to be convincing here?
And hopefully Donald Trump finds that.
Hopefully the RNC finds that because some wires are getting crossed.
We'll try and do what we can.
Stay tuned.
Or don't.
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