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#73 TRUMP & TRANSGENDERS ! Christina Hoff Sommers & Nick DiPaolo Trigger #SJWs | Louder With Crowder
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You've found yourself at the junction where worlds meet.
Politics.
Civility.
How about honesty in this country, folks?
Entertainment.
I don't like entertainment.
And a whole bunch of other stuff.
It's about having a healthy body image.
If you have a very unhealthy body, you should have a horrible body image.
Not a big home improvement market in Detroit.
We are definitely going to get letters.
You're listening to Talk Radio's Strangest Animal.
You're a strange animal.
You're getting louder with Crowder.
But you're a strange animal I got to follow Oh, I'm in the speedy to sound That means it's the sound of the weekend.
Glad to be with you.
I am your host, Stephen Crowder, with me producing, as always, in a video studio.
Video stream is NotGayJarred.
He is NotGay.
Follow him at NotGayJarred on Twitter.
I fulfill my legal obligations.
Draw your own conclusions.
We good?
We're good.
I'm even more glad to be with you.
This is true.
We will get into that.
We have to let people know our guests.
We have legendary comedian Nick DiPaolo on tonight.
So if you don't follow him, you need to follow him.
If you don't know who he is, learn who he is.
And of course, we have based mom, Christina Hoff Summers.
Dr.
Christina Hoff Summers, by popular demand.
She was there with me at UMass.
And we weren't able to get her on that week.
We were already booked, so we brought her on this week.
And I'm excited to get in the fold with those two.
Well, let's let people know about Not Gay Jared.
He was sick.
You can reveal what you want to reveal.
He was in the emergency room this week.
Can we talk about the blood transfusion?
Yeah.
Why not?
All right.
Let's hit him with that real quick.
We'll go back to it because we have to get to the Trump stuff this week.
Yeah.
Lost a lot of blood.
Apparently, that's not good.
It's not good.
Not good.
They don't advise it.
So blood transfusion, first time at that, five units of blood.
That's your first time at that?
That I know of.
I mean, I've had surgery before because we've talked about that, but I don't know if I had transfusion mid-surgery or not.
I'm not aware.
And the shoe is on the other foot because you don't want none of that gay blood.
Well, you told me about that, and they told me worst case scenario was AIDS, but the best case was superpowers.
So I took the risk.
You took the gamble.
It was totally worth it.
It's a roll of the dice.
You also don't know what superpowers are.
Well, the bummer part is I know I don't have superpowers yet.
You don't have superpowers.
We're still waiting on the AIDS. We're still waiting.
Still waiting.
Well, your hemoglobin level was really low.
6.2.
And it's supposed to be 12, right?
Yeah, at least 12.
Something like that.
12 to 16.
12 to 16.
So the optimal range is probably closer to 16.
Yeah, not closer to death.
You just took away the one before the 16, and that was where you were.
So what we'll talk about that more after the break was a scary week for Not Gay Jared, and we're mostly glad that he's back.
A lot of stories this week.
So obviously, listen, the big one is, and a lot of people are going, why aren't you talking about politics so much?
We get so tired of it every now and then.
Who isn't tired of it?
Honestly, when Tuesday happened, I wasn't even following it.
I don't care that much anymore.
People are going, oh, you're going to...
Like, I was past it at this point, you know?
Obviously, I'm not the biggest Trump fan.
But he won.
And here's one thing I will say.
You know, I said on Twitter, I said, hey, you know, congratulations Trump on the win, and Ted Cruz, classy move dropping out trying to unify the party.
That's all I said.
And people went nuclear.
You're on the Trump bandwagon?
You idiot.
Have you ever been in a sport?
Have you ever competed?
Have you ever been in a debate, in a high school college debate club?
I've lost to people who I can't stand, and I have to, well, you know what, those are the rules.
Shake their hand, congratulate them on the win.
It seems...
If Hillary Clinton wins, I do not like Hillary Clinton.
I would not be happy.
But I've got to say, okay, alright, you won.
Congratulations on the win.
Were you raised that way?
Congratulations on the win.
I hope you die.
Well, yeah, you can wish for it.
You can wish for it.
It's entirely appropriate.
You take your little doll and you stick the pins in it.
Yeah, but you know, back in T-Ball, no matter who won and who lost, you always did the little lineup and tapped hands on the way.
The problem is, Jared was talking about T-Ball last week.
They were good times.
That's the problem, though, with social media, with elections and why it gets exhausting.
You have people who've never entered the arena, never been in a fight, never been in any kind of a struggle, and then they think that their opinions are as informed or mean as much as everyone else.
And here's the truth.
Everyone can have an opinion.
Your opinion isn't necessarily as valid as someone else's.
And it isn't as of much value as other people.
And it also depends on the person to whom you're expressing the opinion.
To me, right, someone like John Stossel, his opinion means a lot more to me than not gay Jared.
That's okay.
They can both have opinions.
Doesn't mean I trust them.
So Trump won.
That's the reality.
So my opinion matters at least somewhat, then.
That's an improvement from last week.
Well, it's because of the sympathy right now after the sickness and the AIDS. I'll take it.
I don't want you looking like Tom Hanks from Philadelphia and everyone sees you bald and there's a Make-A-Wish Foundation and all they remember is the mean man who told you your opinion.
I can start a foundation?
This is an option?
You can always start a foundation.
Just not if you're a conservative.
So, does this change the way I think about Trump?
No.
Will I vote for Donald Trump?
I've always said this.
No, probably not.
Now, I reserve the right to change.
I've always said this.
If Donald Trump starts surrounding himself with brilliant people, Brilliant people.
Not Sarah Palin.
Not Roger Stone.
Okay?
People who are really brilliant, who are constitutionalists, who understand how to run a government, and he surrounds himself with those people who I think are trustworthy.
I reserve the right to change my opinion.
I reserve the right to change my opinion, period.
But does this change how I feel about Donald Trump?
It doesn't.
But I feel the need to congratulate someone on the win.
People say, well, why aren't you on board with the Never Trump?
I've never been on board with that, even though long before Never Trump, I said on this show, if it's Donald Trump, I probably won't vote for him.
Why?
Because the problem with the hashtag NeverTrump is what I saw was it wasn't about I will never vote for Donald Trump.
It was NeverTrump even at the cost of collusion.
And even though people have lobbed it at me that, well, you want the election to be stolen, I don't want the election to be stolen.
I was pretty clear.
The reason there's a very specific number, one, two, three, seven, delegates, It wasn't pulled out of a hat.
And I said, if Donald Trump gets those delegates, he wins.
Period.
And if the GOP pulls something, pulls out, pull Mr.
P90X Ryan, I will relieve myself on the GOP ashes.
You see that picture of him doing the curls?
The P90X and his skin?
They took the picture so you can see the hair on the back of his knees.
There is no more unattractive place for hair.
We all have it.
But you don't show it.
I don't have it.
I know for a fact that you have hair in the back of your knees.
That's your superpower, the ability to grow knee hair.
Ah, crap.
It's growing on the interior of your kneecap.
So I always said that about Paul Ryan.
But if he doesn't, and it goes to a contested convention, that's not new, it's happened, and we'll see what happens in the ballot.
If Donald Trump gets those delegates, he wins.
Donald Trump won, other people pulled out.
Okay?
That's reality.
That's where we are.
You don't necessarily like it.
I don't necessarily like it.
Here we are.
Now, as for Ted Cruz and Carly Fiorina, people think, you know, because we've had them both in the show.
I liked Carly Fiorina a lot.
They think we haven't been critical enough of them.
Well, listen, I don't pretend to be an unbiased journalist, right?
I'm an entertainer.
I do stand up on this show as a mix of comedy and politics and entertainment.
But...
We have been pretty brutal on them, if you actually listen to the sketches between the segments.
But we've done some...
I mean, the Carly Fiorina baron womb bit in the GOP debate cartoon.
Like, we have criticized everybody.
Now, naturally, with my opinion, I'm going to favor Carly Fiorina or Ted Cruz over Donald Trump.
That's okay.
Because I like their policies more than Donald Trump.
But we've had plenty of criticism, and here's some more of it.
Ted Cruz and Carly Fiorina deserve to lose.
I like them.
I wish they didn't.
They deserve to lose.
Now, they were fighting against a reality show, big name.
We're talking about name recognition in the American public right now, right?
You have Hillary Clinton, big name recognition.
Donald Trump, big name recognition.
They were fighting it, and they thought they were going to play it safe and go the traditional route.
They deserve to lose.
They thought they were going to go on the traditional AM radio circuit, Fox News, and they were going to win with the Republican base.
It's not enough.
It's not enough.
They were running their campaign like champions.
And by the way, this isn't necessarily because of them, but because of advisors and strategists.
We get these emails all the time from people who want us to have politicians on.
You know, senators or congressmen.
We're only interested in national politicians because otherwise it just gets so boring.
They're the most boring guests you could possibly have.
No, do we want the senator from X district in Oklahoma?
No, we'd rather have Nick DiPaolo on.
So these people are advising them, telling them, let's go the safe route.
Let's play traditional media.
Let's focus on white Christian conservatives.
Am I saying they're racist?
No, but that was their absolute game plan, which isn't enough.
When we had Carly Fiorina, Ted Cruz, in this program for the first time, Now listen, do we do massive numbers?
No.
But the programs with Carly Fiorina and Ted Cruz, bigger than CNN. Well, well under the six figures.
Combined, seven figures on the downloads, the videos, and the clips.
And we got tons of comments from people saying, I've never seen them like this.
I've never heard Ted Cruz talk about Pink Floyd or Carly Fiorina.
They came on.
Good time.
We invited them back.
And I know for a fact that they were scared.
You play spot the tranny after a presidential candidate, and they're like, well, you know, we're kind of attacking Donald Trump over the Howard Stern thing, which is stupid.
They don't want to come back.
I understand that.
So let's remove us from the equation.
And they're just so out of touch.
When we're talking about young people, by the way, anyone under the age of 40, Republicans, Anyone under the age of 45 and you lose.
That's the issue here.
And then you saw, you know, Ted had his whole teens for Ted thing.
It was that C.J. Pearson kid.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Who wasn't legal enough to vote.
He probably hadn't had his balls dropped yet.
And remember he was calling out, can I get on your show?
Can I get on your show?
We were like, no, you can't get on our show.
Now he's a surrogate for Bernie freaking Sanders.
And he swindled conservatives out of thousands of dollars for a speaking tour.
And Ted Cruz, you know, if 25 is young, if 30 is young and relevant, 14 is really relevant.
That's not how it works.
We want a Sean King for our team.
They were so risk-averse.
And here's the thing, you have to go big or go home in this campaign.
I'm not a campaign strategist, but if I could run it, you need to be running a guerrilla warfare campaign.
Let's remove us from the equation.
Adam Carolla, Joe Rogan, popular YouTube channels, Carly Fiorina, Ted Cruz, did none of that.
None of it.
Okay, Ted Cruz, you went on Fox and Friends every couple of weeks.
What else you got?
And that's where, listen, that's where a lot of people, like Milo, the alt-right, I don't agree with them on a lot of principle, but the reason we can discuss is because I don't just go, ah, hashtag never Trump.
Okay, let's discuss these ideas.
They're right.
There's not a lot of originality in the conservative movement right now.
Nope.
We're very fortunate.
We benefit from that.
And that's why you have people appearing on cable news lifting bits from kids in a den studio, as we saw this week with the Kasich and closing time and the people at NRO. We don't care, but they're taking cues from people who are on mediums they should have been paying attention to all along.
Yep.
Conservatives think this is new media still.
Like, they literally think this is new media.
It's not new.
It's been around for a long time.
You're just too silly to have noticed it.
We'll talk more about this after the break.
I've got to have an aneurysm.
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breaking news on Loudmouth Crawler.
I'm Perry Matheson.
We take you now live with our on-the-field reporter Jimmy in Flint, Michigan, where the President Barack Obama himself has flown in on Air Force One to pay the struggling residents of a city once famous for its alarming crime rate, now most notorious for its fungi-ridden tap water, a visit.
Jimmy!
And Jimmy's dead.
We'll keep you abreast as this story unfolds on Louder with Crowder.
I'm Perry Mollison.
Hey, Steven, what are you doing?
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You mean the site about the scary black rifle with the best prices, community, and information on the web?
Oh, what the hell's the difference?
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You know, they just heard the three takes.
You did three takes.
You didn't edit it.
it.
They can hear you.
Kaboom.
All right.
Glad to be back.
You know, I'm going to wrap up the Donald Trump.
We have so many great guests tonight that I can't go on too many rants with this deal.
Let me just say this.
I like Senator Ted Cruz.
I like Carly Fiorina.
They're welcome on the program.
And even I am tired of their faces and their voices.
Yeah, I'm not a Donald Trump fan.
I hope that people on the Never Trump side still understand Rylan Up, and I hope that the people who love Donald Trump think that this is entirely reasonable.
I don't have to like somebody.
I can express my policy disagreements, my disagreements on ideas, and still be okay with the rules.
If Bernie Sanders won, I would soil myself, and I would say, alright.
Good game, you 115-year-old socialist Jew who's never held a private job.
You did it!
I don't know how you did.
It's not that I'm lazy.
It's that I just don't care.
I think a lot of people have hit that point.
Yeah, it's like the Kim Davis thing.
Remember the Kim Davis thing?
There's never seemed to want to end, ever.
Right.
It's just like, you're like, ah.
And there was a lot of nuance there.
Her face again.
Yeah, you're like...
There's some more of her face.
Yes!
Even though you're not necessarily...
And then you go, oh, that's her face.
And you're like, no, that's an episode of Hoarders.
Ah, then back to her face.
Then back to her face.
And then her face on Hoarders.
Yeah, that was a weird episode.
It was a weird episode.
It was good, though.
It was good.
It was just a bunch of cutlery, like Carrie's mom.
That's right, you never saw the original Carrie.
I did, actually.
You remember when all the knives go into her?
And that was one of those scenes where I was watching it.
Just immensely uncomfortable.
Just stop, stop, stop.
Look at that!
What are you doing, Carrie?
But of course, that's when Christians show up in the film, or Carrie's mom.
Okay, so people have been asking, and hopefully I'm going to let you take a little bit of the lead, because I tossed it to the audience.
You can tweet me at us, Crowder, for questions.
People actually care about you, some people.
And you got sick.
So, I was ready for the Monday morning meeting.
You didn't come in, and you were rushed to the hospital.
Hospital is like a hotel, by the way.
It's a nice hospital.
It's a very nice hospital.
Literally, they use the same furniture, my wife works with furniture, as the Hyatt.
Really?
Like the Ottomans and stuff like that.
Yeah, yeah.
And your food wasn't bad either.
My food, actually, you know, I've had a lot of work done at Cleveland Clinic.
That's where I had, like, all my stuff done when I lived there.
And, I mean, you know, top hospital in the country, you know, in the world.
But this place actually had better food.
The rooms were comparable.
And you didn't have to be in Cleveland.
So, tell me what you had.
I've been keeping it relatively close to the chest, and then when I went in, you were telling anyone who would listen.
Just a little bit of AIDS. C. diff?
C. diff.
C. diff AIDS. C. diff AIDS. C. diff.
Minus the AIDS. Well, you have no colon.
Our audience knows that.
And watch some FCC people, can he get scatological?
No, he has no colon.
He can't take a crap.
This is medical.
Do you realize that I can call Hillary Clinton a bitch, but I can't say that Jared needs to take a dump?
They have to hit that dump button?
It's the tragedy of the public internet.
Oh, by the way, speaking of radio, thank you so much to KNEZ 107.3 FM in Reno for picking us up.
I was supposed to do that plug earlier.
Thank you so much for picking us up just as the nurse picked up Jared's colostomy bag.
So tell them what happened.
Which I don't have anymore.
Okay.
Can we say that, not without getting into detail, how you lost blood?
I think people can probably figure it out.
No colon.
No colon.
So you're not, I'm not, I don't want to throw you under the bus.
No, no.
But we're pretty honest with the audience.
Yes.
So, and I get a call, and like, this isn't that abnormal for Jared.
But I was concerned, and I didn't sleep at all Sunday night because I was talking with your family members, and they were kind of updating me.
So you're in the hospital, they give you a transfusion, and you have C. diff, right?
C. diff, yeah.
I had an NG tube, too.
Well, they tested that first.
That was a lot of fun.
The what?
An NG tube?
You ever had that before?
No.
They literally shove a straw up your nose.
No, not no.
Up your nose, down your throat, and suck out the contents on your stomach to see what's there.
Oh, I've had that, because I drank a whole bottle of, like, acetaminophen when I was a kid.
It's the worst.
Well, yeah, I had my stomach pumped.
That was probably the worst thing about the whole thing, minus the just, like, not being able to eat for, like, a day.
I mean, could have been worse if not for your...
I mean, I will hand it to you.
Your inhuman gag reflex.
It comes with years of practice.
So you have C. diff.
And here's the thing.
We have a den-built studio out of where I live, and they're telling me, wipe down your hands, antibacterial soap, and hand sanitize them to not get C. diff.
I'm going, not gay Jared will literally come into my house and just coat the bowl with a second coating of paint seven times a day.
And I'm worried about washing my hands.
So I need to know, is this something I need?
Do I need to go see a doctor?
You should probably get tested.
I should probably get tested.
How do they test?
Do I have to do that thing?
If that would be fun for me, you should.
If we have to videotape it, well, sometimes I have to do a sample of a word we can't say, and you have to figure it out.
That's how they figure it out, the intestinal bacteria stuff.
And by the way, tweet not gay, Jared.
As a friend, but also as an employer, he needs to be healthier.
I don't want to say this was preventable, but everyone here knows about his diet habits, and you've got to get on top of that.
You do.
I said it as a friend, and also, obviously, we want you to get into work, but it's not good for you.
I've had lots of Skittles lately, though.
Those are protein, right?
Well, I'm sure they're fortified with vitamins.
Okay, so C. diff.
That's the case.
And something else I want to say.
So, not gay Jared.
One of his relatives is there.
And we have a registered sex offender on the block.
So we know he's a registered sex offender.
We know he's harassed many people.
He spends all kinds of nights in the drunk tank.
And he allegedly molested a special needs guy on our block.
We've talked about him.
I don't know if we've used his actual name.
And I don't know if you remember this, but I was sitting there and I was complaining because this child molester has another ally on the block.
And I was sitting there and I was washing my hands.
I'm going, crying out loud, you know, what does it take?
I go, the guy raped a retard.
And your relative who was walking in.
Who you've never met before.
Who I've never met.
Was there a conversation after I left?
There was, but surprisingly, it involved nothing of raping retards.
So, you got off.
I remember he just walked in.
I'm going, oh.
And then I said, hey, without context, that could sound bad.
I'm literally talking about somebody who sexually molested a special needs child.
He raped a retards.
Do you remember this?
Because I didn't even look on your face.
You didn't even seem to think that it was abnormal.
Well, you gotta remember, I'm around you all the time, so it's not abnormal for me, but when I think like, oh, this person doesn't see you at all, ever.
Most of the tweets are very nice.
Get healthy.
People want to know about your gag reflex.
Chewbacca's lover tweeting us, I held it close to my chest.
Steven Credder, 2016.
Been there.
No, mostly just a bunch of gay jokes.
To be honest, I really thought the audience would have been more compassionate.
This is what happens.
Oh, well.
All right.
Well, we have to come back with Dr.
Christina Hoff Summers.
Yep.
And that's going to be great, so we'll hold your questions until after that.
Louder with Crowder.
Christina Hoff Summers coming up.
She's a doctor!
Stay tuned.
And now for John Kasich's only superfan at a primary watch party.
Hey, guys, thanks so much for inviting me.
Yeah, yeah, it's cool, man.
I'm glad you're here.
I'm telling you, you think you only have two choices with Trump and Cruz.
You really want to take a better look at Kasich.
Yeah, you know, I know.
I've heard you say that.
No, no, really.
He's the only one who beats Hillary Clinton in a head-to-head in a national poll.
I'm telling you.
Yeah, we know.
Yeah, we know.
I mean, but, you know, that's because he doesn't really have a lot of name recognition.
No, I'm telling you, it's because John Kasich is the only one who knows how to deal with the political divisiveness in today's atmosphere.
You know, I don't...
I don't know, man.
I just don't really think...
It's just because you haven't done the research.
If you did the research on Kasich, believe me, you'd change your minds.
We are now getting official word from the Ted Cruz campaign that he has suspended his presidential campaign until further notice.
Wow.
See, that's it.
If Ted Cruz couldn't win Indiana, he said he should drop out.
I told you, he should drop out.
If he can't win Indiana, Kasich could have won that without Ted Cruz in there.
Kasich's the only one left right now.
It's between Trump or Kasich, and I'm telling you, it's time to start taking a serious look.
He can really fix this.
Yeah, you know...
Still only one, what, one state?
Erroneous!
Okay, erroneous.
At this point, he's the only one left.
It's him and Trump.
You have a choice to make.
Word getting in now that John Kasich has also officially suspended his presidential campaign.
No!
I want to do I ain't got a thing to prove to you Okay, we are now joined, so keep your mouth in line there, not gay, Jared.
A classy lady.
I can't do it.
Everyone knows who this is.
They've been requesting her, and I was fortunate enough to share the stage with her.
You can watch her stuff on YouTube, youtube.com slash factualfeminist, or follow her on Twitter, C.H. Summers, S-O-M-M-E-R-S. Christina Hoff Summers, thank you for being with us.
Well, thank you for having me.
You're such a star on YouTube now.
You stole our show at UMass.
Well, no.
I assure you I have no intention.
Sometimes the screaming belligerent one can capture the most amount of attention.
You did a great job.
Well, thank you.
You did a fantastic job.
You know what?
We talked about this.
You, Milo, and myself, we were talking about this.
You know, I went out and you knew before I was kind of like, you were going to do your speech and Milo was going to do his bit and I was going...
I had a stand-up list, a set list.
And then I said, but I don't know if these kids are going to allow it.
And then what triggered me, so to speak, was you just – I expected it with Milo when he was so short.
You went out at UMass.
For people who haven't watched the full lecture, we have it up at the website.
And just how vile and vulgar and angry they were with you, it just set something off where I was going, okay.
If Christina Hoff Summers, who's taught philosophy for 20 years, doesn't have a shot at some kind of a civil conversation – all right, that's out the window, and that was my mindset.
So it was you who inspired me because I wanted to beat their faces in.
It was astonishing.
And as you said, I expected that Milo would create some chaos.
And then I thought, and this has happened at other universities, when I would come, the students would listen more or less.
Right.
And because I don't say anything inflammatory, I try to reason with them.
And they had already passed out flyers quoting me, quite innocuous quotes, by the way.
Yes.
But simply questioning the wage gap myth.
Or questioning that, you know, Swarthmore or Wesleyan, that these are rape cultures, they say that you are a dangerous and violent person.
Well, exactly.
And no sense of irony that they're saying that, well, they literally don't have enough middle fingers to give as we walk out on stage.
Well, Naki Jair, we talked about that last week.
He's seen me do stand-up.
He knew right away.
He's like, this is not what Stephen does.
Right.
This is Stephen very angry.
You adapted so well, and it was funny because we all had different expectations.
I sort of thought of myself addressing students in a lecture, and by all it's all performance art, and you referred to it as an act.
And somehow it shouldn't have worked, but it was very effective in raising awareness about what has happened on our campus.
Yes, and I think, you know, funnily enough, people are going, well, I've never seen Crowder this mad, because if people actually watch this show, it's very much like you're experiencing right now.
It's very conversational.
I mean, we've had people come on and call for my death, and I just go, well, that's interesting.
I disagree with you.
But then the stand-up is different.
And, you know, it was like Michael Douglas in Falling Down.
I'd had enough.
And I think that surprised people because I'm not a...
I am an angry person, but I'm not explosive in that way, publicly, generally speaking.
But a lot of people, if you look at the reactions...
Enough about me, darling.
They were talking about you and people who weren't even...
You know, like we talked about, $600,000 in the full lecture, $1.67 million on my rant.
Overwhelmingly positive.
For you, just as much as I know, mostly you.
People love you.
These aren't conservatives.
The majority of these people, if you look at YouTube, you just crunch the numbers, have to be center or left.
And you've not really been a Republican.
Like you said, you're kind of a lifelong registered Democrat, but...
Off.
Yes, we'll get to that too, because that's an interesting conversation right now.
But that was a reaction with you.
People going, I can't believe she seems so reasonable.
Some Twitter followers have told me, and I haven't verified this, that the crowd was actually angriest when I was talking.
That I infuriated them more, and they were noisier than...
Again, I haven't checked it out, but every time I attempted to speak, there was so much fury.
And I was trying to be generous to them, trying to understand them, because I do think...
I mean, as a comedian, you don't have to do this, but as a scholar, I like to meet them halfway, try to see the world as they do, and the rules.
I couldn't do it.
No, no.
Well, on this show, I always do that.
And we invited, actually, some of those students on the show when they haven't come on the show.
Really?
You invited the...
Yes.
I invited the girl who wrote the letter.
Oh, that girl.
Yeah, a couple of them.
If I can find Trigglypuff, I'd invite her, but I think she's in her natural hibernation cycle.
I feel a little sorry for her.
No, no, don't do that.
I felt that way, too.
I think she might have...
No, no, she's not.
She's not retarded.
And I work with special needs people.
I think she might be very intelligent.
Oh, okay.
Very excited.
No.
I think that, no, Steve, this is important.
I think that the criticism should focus on the professors who enraged her.
Because she's just, she acted out.
Yes.
And she's going to, you know, suffer some humiliation.
I don't know.
Put it lightly, yes.
But it's important before you move on, because I want you to move on.
But that's not cyberbullying.
She showed up and was trying to take food from the mouths of my family and your family, because a big part of our living is speaking engagement.
So it's important to remember that.
And she's hungry.
So that's where I lose the empathy.
She wasn't filmed in a restroom and made fun of for her weight.
She showed up to yell and swear and cuss you out.
She saw that ride and she bought a ticket.
And she rolled a dice.
She lost.
I will say one thing.
I will say one thing.
This has happened on every campus where I've been, where they acted out.
At Oberlin, where they had their safe space.
Thirty women and a dog, a therapy dog, fled to the safe space.
And at Georgetown, at both those universities, the students looked foolish, and people took photos, and then the students were horrified that people posted their photos.
So not only are they childish in the way they protest, in the way they think, in their view of the world, but when they go out to protest, they have a temper tantrum if people call them out on it.
Right.
No, it's a great point.
And this is the first generation, and that's kind of what I think was reflected, and people went, aha, with my rant.
This is the first generation of people who are fighting for less rights.
They're fighting for less freedoms.
That's their fight.
It's amazing.
It's absolutely amazing.
And I look back, when I was in college, the idea of having deans monitoring our Right.
We wanted them out of our lives.
We wanted to be independent, liberated beings.
And today, I call this fainting couch feminism.
I mean, it takes us back to the Victorian era.
The hysteria, the demand for adults to supervise everything they do, every little thing that happens to them.
They run screaming to their parents.
The infanilization.
And I think it goes beyond politics.
Oh, absolutely.
People are struggling to understand what's happened on campus, but I think it may have to do with...
The helicopter parenting or this self-esteem movement, something has gone badly wrong with a certain sector of privileged millennials.
The more elite the kids are, the more prestigious the school and expensive the school, the more likely this is to happen.
That's a good point.
You don't see kids probably going to trade school or kids who aren't going to college who are going into construction.
You don't see them acting as professional protesters, even if they might be Union Democrats.
Right.
This is activist privilege.
Yes.
That's a good activist privilege.
Write that down.
They should check their activist privilege.
They absolutely should.
They should check their facts as well.
Yeah.
Someone's going to lift that from you and claim it as their own.
So we'll have this as the record here for that.
Yeah.
You know, Trigglypuff is interesting in the sense that...
I know I said that name.
We don't have any other name for her.
That's just as well.
I don't think we should use her name.
No, I think Trigglypuff works just fine.
She was so angry and so upset, and the reaction, like we said with you, was disarming in that people...
One thing I had to defend you, because there were some people I remember saying, well, it didn't sound like they were that disruptive to me, and one person, Christina Hoff Summers, clearly just would repeat herself because she couldn't...
I go, no, no, no, you don't understand.
She couldn't hear herself.
We couldn't hear each...
People don't understand, you know, the sound is going out to people, And the only recording they're getting, right, is the microphone.
Like right now, my dog is snoring, you can't hear him.
That's why in comedy, when they tape a special, they have mics in the audience.
So people only hear a reaction, and to be fair, it would seem if they don't hear this that you're stuttering, but really they're interrupting you so much you have to restart your point.
And when I wrote that down, some people, you know, the leftists, very small minorities, saying, well, I guess I don't see that.
And, of course, when you turn the camera on the audience, then they did see that.
You know, you don't hear Trigglypuff in the original video until you have a close-up.
It produced my favorite meme, probably, of the night, though, which was Dr.
Summers' The Socrates.
Socrates!
Socrates!
My favorite.
I said that if our...
Institutions of higher learning become places where people go to feel comfortable and safe rather than to be challenged and to learn new ideas, new thoughts, then the universities will lose their reason for being.
And what I tried to say was since the time of Socrates, higher education has been synonymous with debate.
With contention, with examining ideas, with being held responsible for the clarity of your thought.
If this disappears, then, as I said, what happens to education?
It becomes a kindergarten thing.
Well, that's a good point.
That's what people call her, Based Mom.
Have you heard that nickname?
I'm Based Mom.
Based Mom.
No, me, Based Mom.
I do want to correct you on a couple of things.
Okay.
I correct Milo, but I do want to correct you on a couple of things.
And there was no way to do it in that environment.
I do think that you might want to consider modifying your position on Islam.
Because...
Of course there are terrorists and dangerous people and people that have very backward views.
But you must acknowledge a growing number, not big enough, but it's a growing number, of liberal Muslims.
Irshad Manji, and Ashrad Nomani, wonderful reformists.
They happen to be religious, but they want to bring a kind of enlightenment to Islam.
I think it was Ashrad Nomji.
She posted her demands.
Someone nailed it into the door of a Washington Islamic Center.
And we have to support them.
And so if you say things that suggest that you You know, have some animus towards all Muslims.
I said the opposite.
I understand where you're coming from, but I was very clear to single out Muhammad.
And I will stand by that.
Muhammad was a terrorist.
The historical record is uneven.
There are examples of things that he did that were progressive.
You have to put it in the time that he lived.
Yes, I understand, but...
Judeo-Christian figures, there's a lot of problematic behavior.
Not anywhere near that.
And I would say because, you know, if you look at historically Christianity and its inception, where there were known oppressors, right, Stephen, the first martyr, right, stoned to death, it was clear, oh, you're Christian, you're dead.
With Islam, it didn't, you know, no one knew who Muhammad was, no one really cared, so even when there were known oppressors, it was always spread through the sword, historically.
I understand what you're saying.
I would be appalled if someone said, I hate all Muslims.
But I do stand by my statement in my worldview that Muhammad was the original ISIS founder.
And there are a lot of Muslims who part way with that.
But my issue is with Muhammad.
I will write to you about this.
I just don't think it's helpful to talk that way.
I think it's accurate.
I mean, King David in Jewish history...
A very uneven record.
You could say all sorts of things, but it would be so hurtful.
To Jewish people to hear it put that way.
No, they acknowledge that about King David.
What?
No, the big difference is King David, first off, King David is not the holiest of prophets, and he's widely regarded as a very flawed king who was able to do great things.
Muhammad is regarded as the most perfect human being who ever lived.
He's the prime example.
And I would say that's two very different things, just like Samson is not the perfect being, just like Moses is not, but Muhammad is.
But we don't know...
People can't be certain.
The stories about Muhammad, it's all a matter of interpretation.
There isn't a...
Okay, I have to go to a break, but let's bring you back.
Based mom, factual feminists.
I love it.
I love it.
We can have this disagreement.
Respectful.
Stay tuned.
tuned ladder with Crowder this is breaking news with Perry Matheson on ladder with Crowder issuing a correction
Earlier in this evening's broadcast, we falsely stated that field reporter Jimmy was deceased.
We've since learned that he is still in Flint and capable of communication.
Jimmy, are you there?
Hello?
Oh, my God.
Is anyone there?
Jimmy, Jimmy, this is Perry Matheson.
Can you hear me?
No, it's Perry Matheson.
Jimmy, can you tell us what you see on the ground in Flint?
What happened?
Oh, Perry!
Well, I'm afraid to say I can't see a thing because it gouged out my eyes.
I'm legally blind.
I have no eyes, really.
That sounds terrible, Jimmy.
Stay with us.
Can you feel around through the debris?
Can you make sense of the event?
It sounded quite drastic.
I wish I could, but my hands were blown off in the drive-by, so...
Now, Jimmy, stay with me.
I know this is hard.
If you could dig in deep here, use what you have.
Okay.
I'm trying to feel around with my stubs.
And...
I feel something wet.
Oh, my God.
Don't drink it, Jimmy!
You're a strange animal.
That's what I know.
But you're a strange animal I've got to follow.
A woman that's speedy to sound.
All right.
We had to cut the factual feminist off.
Follow her.
Follow her.
What are you doing with your life?
At chsommers, S-O-M-M-E-R-S. Christina Hoffsommers, thanks so much for being back.
So, we left on that disagreement.
No, this does go out terrestrial.
We occasionally have to do that.
Let's make this three segments, because she's so good.
So, I disagree with you on that.
And also...
I can't travel to huge portions of the world.
I'm right next to Salman Rushdie on CARES watch list, and we've had very serious security run-ins.
So it's not a small minority of people.
I agree with you that reformists should be recognized.
But if we go back to David, people aren't killing in record numbers and haven't been doing so for David for centuries.
And I always compare, if you haven't seen the video, I did a video, let's compare Jesus versus Muhammad.
Because I'm a horrible example for Christians, I know that.
I think comparing the founder, you know, the founder of the feast, Jesus versus Muhammad, yields two very, very different characters and two very different results in the history of the religion.
But I understand, it's okay, you said you had a couple corrections.
Hit me with the other ones.
Believe me, I'm not beyond it.
I'm willing to accept what I'm on.
I'm only saying that when you go to a campus, you're facing furious activists who can't be reasoned with.
Your goal should be to convince the people in the middle.
You can say things that will be pleasing to your followers and your fans.
You want to Pitch it to the people in the middle who are persuadable.
And I think your rant was excellent.
Even my somewhat liberal sons thought you were great.
Well, thank you.
So you got past a lot of barriers.
No, I agree with you, though.
I agree with you.
And I just don't think you want to insult a whole religion.
And I don't say that you always do, but it just sounded to me.
I wanted to clarify that.
Well, yes, it's important to delineate the joke where I say, I don't remember what I said, but I made a joke, the only way he's going to be beating on her is if she puts on the hijab.
That's a joke.
And then the Mohammed thing, where I say Mohammed is a terrorist.
I'm going to stop.
Oh, come on.
That's not fair.
This is a thing that conservatives do.
Respectfully, it's a lot easier to take on feminists and social justice warriors.
When it comes to Islam, you can hear the sphincters puckering up.
Because, first of all, I don't take on all feminists.
I take on those who I think are guilty of hyperbole and actually...
They do the very thing they accuse male patriarchs of doing.
Well, because you're a feminist.
And they humiliate people.
They want to harm people.
They've become the very thing they claim to dislike.
The people they accuse of being privileged and want to ascribe all these negative characteristics, they have taken on all those characteristics.
They otherwise, to use their word.
But we won't continue with this right now.
We can do it later.
But when it comes to a religion, it's very different.
Because people...
You're a Christian, and you're very sensitive about your religion.
It's a special place in...
No, I'm not.
I'm not sensitive about it.
That's the thing.
I think it's open to criticism.
And I have a problem when one religion makes itself immune to criticism, and one religion, through a system of law, wants to oppress anyone for speaking out against it.
And like I said, when I... Well, I agree with that, and I think that Muslim...
You know, the Muslim reformers would agree as well.
They think we should allow humor, and we should allow criticism.
I mean, we, I'm not a Muslim, but the Muslims that I know that are trying so hard to bring reform.
In the United States, though.
I'm talking about the United States.
I don't know what's going on elsewhere.
Well, you're right.
And my point, too, is when I said, I'm sure there are plenty of people in this room, right?
But there is not an Islamic country in existence, not one, where you would be safe, or my wife would feel safe, or people are treated equally.
Or a Muslim liberal would be safe.
They're the bravest people in the world.
There are Muslim feminists who are struggling for women's rights.
There is no feminist in the West that I'm aware of that ever courted that kind of danger.
And this is something I lament, is that in our women's studies departments, when they're lamenting about, I don't know, they're having...
Right.
you know some kind of bond with these women in Iran you can be put in in this these horrible prisons for daring to have a blog or playing rock music or anything said I just so much wish the the activists on our campuses would open themselves up and and and and look at the world and what's going on in the world and realize they are privileged They are the beneficiaries of a democracy, of a humane society.
We're not perfect, but we are so much better than so many parts of the world.
And yet you have privileged kids at Oberlin, Swarthmore, Harvard, Yale.
They think they are victims that have to be protected from the...
The girls think they have to be protected from the boys on their campus, whom they act as though they are these lethal oppressors.
I think most of that is BS, too, respectfully.
But these girls...
I just had a girl who was talking about this.
We both know her.
And she was talking about a guy...
Okay, let me give you a story, an anecdote, so that then you can take it home here.
This guy we know, very nice guy, okay?
He's like just a quintessential surfer, nicest guy you know.
He really liked my wife's friend.
She's very attractive.
He liked her a lot.
She didn't like him.
But he was constantly pursuing her, buying her flowers.
We called him the stoner gentleman because he's a surfer, but he was very, very into her.
She's very attractive.
Okay.
This other girl, who is a monster who also lives nearby, claims that he groped her.
Now, she is the exact opposite type, and this guy has no history of that at all.
We know that he's actually worked as a babysitter.
And he didn't do that to the girl that we know he liked.
The girl who was unattractive, who would not stand a chance in hell of being groped by this guy, he's creepy.
He was all over me.
I think there's a lot of that on campus.
I think Trigglypuff is more likely to say someone groped her than someone who's more likely to be groped.
Well, the thing is we don't know and the problem is young women are being taught to interpret Innocent overtures or someone just telling a joke or giving a compliment.
They are being taught to view that as some kind of transgression.
Years ago, well not that many, a few years ago when I would talk about these issues, it was a small percentage of women who had taken one too many women's studies courses.
They believed the propaganda and they became...
Somewhat fanatical.
Yes.
What worries me is it's now spread.
Because too many young women, they believe this misinformation.
We have to go to a break.
This is the first.
I want to keep you on straight into the next hour.
Because I love where you're going.
One women's studies course, some could argue, is one too many in today's world.
Christina Hoff Summers, back at the top of the hour.
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We take you now back to our field reporter, Jimmy, who is in rough shape.
Jimmy, last time we left you, how has the situation changed?
Well, it hasn't really changed much.
I didn't drink the water, so thanks for that, but I still don't have any eyes or limbs, so...
Well, you knew what you signed up for when you volunteered for Flint.
Jimmy, I need you to let us know what's happening on the ground.
Okay.
Uh, last I knew there was the protest and the president came in.
I'm getting dizzy.
I'm losing a lot of blood here.
Jimmy, now, I need you to stay professional.
Okay, no one said this would be easy.
Stay on task.
Harry, stay on task.
I'm blind and quadriplegic.
Dammit, Jimmy, this is why you've never been promoted from field reporter.
Treat it like it's a serious job.
We'll be right back.
We'll be right back.
All right.
Always with the dancing.
This is a classy lady back going into the second hour.
Had to have her.
Factual feminist on YouTube, Twitter.
Well, we've done all the plugs.
You know where to find her.
Christina Hoff Summers.
Do I need to call you doctor?
No, Christina's fine.
Or Based Mom.
Based Mom.
We had a guy at my high school who had a doctorate, a PhD in philosophy, and his name was Mr.
Mankey.
He made you call him Dr.
Mankey.
And if you didn't, he would make you write an essay.
And he got kicked out, I think, for being verbally abusive.
Guy was a pompous ass, so that's why I asked you.
Sounds like it.
Yeah.
Yes, yes.
And we used to prank call him, and we would never do this with anyone, but because he would make everyone call him doctor, we used to prank call and leave voicemails on his machine, like asking him for medical advice.
And he didn't find it funny.
Did you make a lot of prank calls as a kid?
Yes, yes we did.
Half the recurring characters people see on my channel were characters we used to make prank calls with to work on them.
But you're talking about the women who go into these women's studies and they become fanatical.
You know, a couple of things there.
Is there any way to...
Do you think we're at a point where it's even possible to teach women's studies and not make fanatical feminists?
Do you think there's any opening there for people like you who are actual feminists to be a constant presence on campus?
Not just speakers.
Do you think that ship has sailed?
It's complicated because I'll make a few distinctions.
There are women's studies professors who are legitimate.
They teach women in literature.
They teach women in medieval Valencia.
I don't know.
They're specialists on women.
And they abide by the protocols of...
You know, professional historiography.
They are serious scholars.
However, they are accompanied by a sort of professional, not professional, but what I would call, you know, feminist theorists, experts on feminist theory.
What is feminist theory?
No one outside a little coterie of like-minded people takes it seriously.
It has not been properly evaluated.
And if you do try to evaluate it and you're outside the sisterhood, You're called a backlasher and a crank.
Crank?
Is that an actual term they use?
Crank?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I've never heard of the term backlasher.
Like, I always just get, if you have a penis, you can't have an opinion, so I don't hear the inside lady terms.
Oh, well, the inside, these are just words.
I don't know if there's a common, like, label, you know, like, like, you know, transphobe is a label or social justice word.
I don't know if, like, crank or backlasher was a hashtag for, like, people like you.
These are just the words.
They will use the word backlash.
For example, I was once speaking at Harvard, this was a few years back, and some young, I said it, I mentioned that dissident feminists like myself and their Camille Paglia There are others, Noreta Kortka, Katie Roife.
I said, we're not typically taught in the classroom.
And then the young woman said, oh yes, one of my professors put all your essays together in the library and we could go and look at it.
It was under the label Backlash.
Oh, there you go.
That's how they do it.
And then they shift it aside to make room for Naomi Wolf.
Yeah.
Naomi Wolf.
They still read her, I think.
It doesn't even matter.
It could be Naomi Wolf or it could be a scholar.
The scholars are ideologues, the feminist theorists.
And they are carried away.
With this false information about how America, you know, women live in a state of siege, it's almost as the better things get for women in the United States, the angrier they get.
And they will not admit that most of the things they fought for, not all, but most, those battles have been fought and won.
But they don't take yes for an answer.
Well, and the problem is now there's going to be backlash from a lot of young men because they've been vilified.
You can only say that they're, you know, only paint them as rapists and sexual predators.
And that was the point I made.
Listen, I don't know a single man, and if they are, they're in hiding.
No one in my circle of influence or friends who's like, by the way, I was raping this broad.
And they expect us to be like, yeah, that's Tuesday.
Every one of us.
Absolutely.
Men hate rapists as much as women, if not more.
Right.
If you find out that somebody attacked and harmed a woman, the instinct of most Americans, and people, I hope most everywhere, the instinct is...
To find that person, and we feel so angry and prey on...
It just seems it's a crime that is reviled.
Well, that was my instinct with you with the verbal assault, and then I was conflicted because I wasn't quite sure if it was a man or a woman verbally assaulting you, so I didn't know exactly what to feel.
And that was my dad's instinct.
And if you look at the comments, that's the vast majority of the male commenter's instinct, going, I don't even agree with her, but she seems so nice, like she could be my mom...
It just really, really disgusts me that they would treat her this way.
That's the mainstream reaction of men.
And by the way, I think that a lot of very nice men, they hear from their feminist teacher or their girlfriend about all these men that are doing these terrible things.
And they may think back and they remember they once knew someone.
And so they take it seriously.
But I urge all those young men to think about your friends.
Think about your father.
Think about your brothers.
Does that describe them?
Men, the average man in the United States does not want to attack or harm a girl.
They want to be their friends.
They like them.
Yes, and they want to have sexual relations with them.
They fall in love with them.
Yeah, well, I don't know at this point if just an advance with a woman is considered harassment.
It's so broadly defined.
And some of this is being driven.
What's happened is that we have this axis of intolerance.
You have the somewhat fanatical feminist theorists.
Then you have the students who become extra zealous.
But now they are empowered by administrators.
Who were given the go-ahead by both the Justice Department in the United States and the Department of Education.
So we have this propaganda campaign driving government policy, which is making the fanaticism on campus worse.
Eventually it's all going to fall down.
But it's very unfortunate.
And it's also unfortunate because there are victims of sexual violence on campus.
Most of the victims are off campus.
If you look at the best data we have, women in poor neighborhoods are at far greater risk than girls.
Yeah.
At universities, these prestigious colleges are- Anecdotally, because you're presenting the factual information, but anecdotally, I probably know four girls who claimed they were raped.
I know one person who was actually raped.
And it was devastating.
It was life-destroying.
And the other person, two of the other people, dated the guys again who they claimed raped them.
Now, does it mean it didn't happen?
No.
But if I'm going to put the Vegas betting odds on it, it was a very different reaction from someone who I knew was actually raped.
And that was what upset me, because I had met these other people beforehand, and when I found out this other person was actually raped, it was such a stark contrast, I thought, wow, it really belittles what you've gone through.
Well, there are young women now that if they have a drunken hookup and look back on it, they are encouraged to call that a rape.
My wife rapes me all the time then.
Every now and then we have too much wine when we go out for a steak dinner and listen, she takes the reins.
That's right.
Well, it makes most of, well not most, but a lot of human intimacy becomes a crime.
Yeah.
And why is it, again, at that point, reverse sexism isn't a thing.
That's a perfect example.
If both are drunk, why is one responsible for rape?
Unless it's predicated in the idea that men are stronger and more sexually predatory by nature, which they deny in the first place.
Exactly.
And I asked that very question.
I was once, a few years ago, in a debate at the University of Virginia with a law professor.
And she thought that sex under the influence of alcohol was, you know, a form of sexual assault.
I said, well, what if two people have had the same amount to drink and they have sex, would you say they raped each other?
And I thought that was a, you know, absurd.
She said, yes!
Ha ha ha!
Well, that's the problem with doing comedy on campus right now.
And you know what?
Even going back to that point, I knew a guy who, when we would go, you know, I was a senior, we were into, you know, either punk or hardcore, so we'd go down to the concert.
We knew a guy, and he was notorious for getting chicks drunk.
He wouldn't be as drunk and take advantage of them.
And we all hated that guy.
I watched that guy get the crap kicked out of him by someone's sister.
That does happen.
That is a problem.
That is wrong.
But they're tossed into the same pile.
The guy who goes out and deliberately gets women drunk to take advantage of them is put in the same pile as two people who had a couple extra drinks at the pub and realized they weren't attractive in the morning.
Right, but also keep in mind that a lot of women, as I recall, being in college, you would sometimes drink to lower your inhibitions so you could do crazy things.
I mean, I'm not speaking about myself, but kids did that.
I saw my friends would drink and so they'd be less inhibited.
I think that's a disclaimer.
I think you had a good time in college.
Actually, we didn't binge drink.
We did other things.
Yes, well, that's why you stuck around for your PhD, because you said, hmm, college allows for this kind of a lifestyle.
Ooh, bass mom became her screen name.
Trigglypuff.
No, not on Trigglypuff.
Good lord.
How much time do we have, Jared?
One minute.
Oh, one minute.
Okay, well, we don't have a whole bunch of time.
Well, I just want to review that...
For me, I'm still reeling about what we had.
I've been to many campuses and I think that was the most intense reaction.
Yeah, I think it was a boiling point.
We've had bomb threats.
Milo and I have appeared places there with bomb threats.
There was a threat to murder us with a machine gun.
And then, but somehow this was...
These liberals don't have access to machine guns.
Which they're handing out just in the backyard, by the way.
Oh, there's no way they can have a machine gun.
It is hard.
Believe me, I'm trying to get a license.
You have to go through a whole charade.
Okay, will you come back with us soon?
Will you come back on the program soon?
Oh, yes.
Okay, good.
Then I don't feel so bad leaving you high and dry, but we have Nick DiPaolo to get to next, another wildly offensive comedian, factual feminist, Christina Hoff Summers.
Thank you so much, and we need to have you back soon, like within the month.
Thank you.
Louder with Crowder.
Stay tuned.
Be nice.
For Lauder with Crowder, I'm Perry Matheson, taking you back to our on-the-field reporter, who will exhibit the utmost professionalism from here
forward, won't you, Jimmy?
Of course.
Of course.
Okay, Jimmy, you are in Flint, and you've been severely injured.
Oh, my God, I hear a car.
I think they're coming back.
Who's coming back, Jimmy?
The drive-by from earlier.
That's them.
Okay, be as aware of your surroundings, Jimmy, as you can.
What's happening?
Jimmy, what's happening?
Do your job, Jimmy.
What's happening?
I'm getting shot, Perry!
Okay, what do they look like?
I told you I don't have any eyes, you son of a...
Okay, Jimmy, this is very important.
As a field reporter, you need to use what you have available.
Can you tell me what kind of caliber these bullets penetrating your flesh feel like?
I don't know, Perry!
This is what we call making an inference.
It's required to make quick decisions on the field, Jimmy.
Go with your gut.
No, 9mm?
You just pick the most common caliber out there.
You're just a lazy reporter, Jimmy.
If it's so easy, why don't you come here and do it?
That kind of attitude's exactly why you found yourself removed from the Palm Beach assignment and assigned in Flint.
Why don't you take some time and think about that, Jimmy, while you're bleeding out, you self-important little pissant.
That was a surge of energy that just came through.
I'm big on the chi right now.
I saw that.
Positivity.
We don't have that much time.
We have to get to Nick DiPaolo after this.
I'm excited.
It's fangirling.
Don't do a Dave Coulier.
It's good stuff.
No, it's not.
It's never good stuff.
Never been good.
You want to break out your Bullwinkle impression?
So a few people were asking me.
Ben Shapiro and Milo Yiannopoulos got into it on Twitter.
I shouldn't say got into it.
I want to be neutral because I like both of them.
They were both scheduled to be on the very first live stream of this show.
And it didn't work.
Remember, it just didn't work.
We couldn't get them both on because we didn't have the right tools.
Yeah, we could get the same timing.
We just got them back to back.
By the way, we also just found out that Not Gay Jared, that there's a setting that we can change next week, so there should be far fewer complications as far as buffering for people on YouTube, right?
Yep, yep.
Once again, things that could have been brought to my attention yesterday!
That is, I don't know, it's just like, oh yeah, there's a setting here.
We won't have any more problems.
So we apologize if you're listening terrestrially.
Live video stream Thursday nights.
Milo Yiannopoulos, Ben Shapiro got into it on Twitter.
Didn't get into it.
Milo went after Ben.
That's been happening for a bit now.
And I like both of them.
I obviously performed with Milo.
As they were going back and forth on Twitter, I provided this show as an open platform for them both to debate.
And people are saying, well, it's not neutral because you don't like Trump.
Well, you know what?
That's true.
I don't like Trump.
But if you listen to my interview with Ben, I was a little contrarian on the Michelle Fields thing to try and be fair.
And the same thing with Milo.
I've worked with both of them.
I consider myself friends with both of them.
So I respect both of them.
And I think that there are far more pressing issues than trying to destroy other very valuable members of the conservative movement.
That being said, Ben Shapiro did accept.
And I don't know that Milo did.
To be fair, behind the scenes, you know, there are contract issues at play.
So I don't know.
I don't want to throw anyone under the bus or assume why.
Contract availability.
Right.
Ben's not tied down by that.
It depends on who you work for in this business.
So anyway, that's the standing offer.
They're always welcome to come and air their grievances, and I think it would be much more effective than going back and forth on Twitter.
Plus, it would be really entertaining.
It would be really entertaining.
We were going to do it a long time ago, while they were still more so friends.
And now, it's just, listen, they're both very good in their verticals.
Milo is a very entertaining provocateur.
He knows how to manipulate, not manipulate, he knows how to work media.
He understands the showmanship.
He's also, of course, very intelligent.
Ben Shapiro is a hyperly informed and...
I guess credentialed, you would say, lawyer.
Debater.
Debater.
That's kind of his thing.
Yeah.
So, they're both very good in what they do, and I think they both serve a role.
And Ben's also valuably Jew-y, which is helpful.
Sometimes Ben needs to, you know, I tell him, like, yeah, just turn down the Jew-ness, as Ricky Gervais said in, what was that movie?
Yeah.
For your consideration.
Okay, so I do want to talk about something.
There are so many stories to get to.
Oh my gosh.
And then we have to get to Nick DiPaolo.
So a couple things.
Target stock dropped over four points.
Albany, the hate crime member, we talked about that, was proven to be a hoax.
Those race-baiting broads have been indicted.
We had a story up there on Facebook, Censoring Conservatives.
We know that.
I want to talk about something.
This happened at a Walmart.
This video went viral of a woman berating a guy in a line in front of her using an EBT card.
Now, if you read the article, there's a lot of nuance there, and people just commented on the title, so I figured I'd expand upon this on the program.
Jared, let's roll that clip.
All right, there we go.
So, that is very telling.
Now, do I think she's a shrew and she's out of line for chewing on a guy in front of his kids?
Yes.
Do I think he's out of line to be a full-grown man with kids wearing a Cannibal Corpse t-shirt?
Yes.
Do I think that both of us...
Check yes for always.
Yes.
But he was very telling.
He goes on in that video.
It's at louderwithcrader.com.
He goes on to tell her, well, yeah, of course, of course, of course I'll take advantage of the system.
He says, vote Republican.
What does that mean?
Hey, if you don't like me taking your stuff, vote Republican.
Now, I wrote about this.
She's out of line.
He's out of line.
Let me get to the spirit of this, however.
There was a time where people felt shame taking stuff from other people.
There was a time where welfare was available.
I talked about this.
Jimmy Braddock, you've seen probably Cinderella Man.
It's a true story.
He took welfare.
He had to pass the hat.
He felt so ashamed about it.
Now, I'm not saying you should feel that ashamed about it.
There's somewhere in the middle, some shame is good, that he returned the welfare money when he was back on top.
This is an FDR, Irish Catholic, Democrat, New York, Jimmy Braddock.
He returned the welfare money.
The spirit is different if someone has helped done under luck versus this guy now, well, vote Republican, and you're not going to win, so I'm going to keep taking your stuff.
Someone asked me on Twitter.
This happened on Twitter today.
Well, I work 40 hours a week, and I take food stamps to pay for my kids.
Does that make me less of a man?
Yes.
Pretty much.
Yeah.
Now, why?
Well, one of the most masculine qualities, and certainly one of the most attractive qualities to members of the opposite sex, is the ability to provide.
Think about that for a second.
Men look for women with big boobs, with birthing hips.
They look for...
Why?
Lactation.
The ability to give them healthy offspring.
Men are sexually attracted to physical traits.
They're attracted to warmth.
They're attracted to a mothering nature.
Period.
That's reality.
Women are attracted to strength.
They're attracted to men who seem like they can provide, men who can take care of the flock.
That's why they like big muscles.
That's why they like confidence.
That's why they like people who are...
Funny is something generally, until you get into the whole cerebral comedians now, like, oh, oh, I'm just so miserable.
At one point, the guy who was funny was the guy in the room who could hold court.
Funny, confident, strong men.
That's what women like.
Not being able to provide and doing so pridefully is very unmasculine.
People got really mad.
Do you think it makes me less of a man for taking money?
Yes.
I think you probably shouldn't have those kids.
I think you should decide beforehand.
And then if you're there, I think you find a way.
And I think that if you do need to take a handout at some point, you do so quietly, and you do it for as short of a time as possible.
Am I wrong?
Tweet me at S. Crowder.
It's not that I'm not sympathetic.
Everyone needs help.
I understand that.
It is the spirit of, I'm just going to get mine.
By the way, people talk about, I need that help.
Why shouldn't I get that help?
Okay, I understand that.
But why should you take it from someone else who's working 60 hours a week and doesn't qualify for those benefits?
At some point, it's coming from somebody.
And you're just saying that it's more fair for you because you're less successful than the other guy who might be working more and putting in more effort.
So let's not confuse this with being mean and not being fair.
Someone's paying for it.
How is that fair?
We have to come back with Legendary.
We're going to do this.
This is happening.
Nick DiPaolo, Lauder with Crowder.
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Does that mean I could even be a boy?
Oh, dearest.
No, no, that wouldn't be sensible.
I'm talking real life.
The year 2016.
See, sweetheart, you can be whatever you want to be, so long as you put your mind to it.
Really?
Even a boy?
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Well, I always say that, but okay, this is one...
Let me introduce this next guest.
Usually we give a lot of plugs.
Really obvious.
He has a tremendous podcast, the Nick DiPaolo podcast.
Follow him on Twitter at Nick DiPaolo, D-I-P-A-O-L-O. The funniest man alive.
For me, my opinion.
I think he is the funniest man walking planet Earth right now.
Nick, sorry for the borderline faggotry, fangirlism.
Are you there?
Yeah, that's a hell of an introduction.
There's no way to go but down.
Did you just say factotry?
You can say that on terrestrial radio?
No, we can't.
I can, because Not Gay Jared can edit it, so he can plan for it.
But you have to be on a short leash, because we've listened to your podcast.
Man, I mean, it's one of the...
I think we talked about this because, thank you, you played this rant that I did at UMass, and I was unbelievably flattered because of anything, you know, I was channeling people from whom I've grown up on, like you, and You've dealt with this since before I was born.
Do you feel like it has gotten worse recently?
I know you won't do college campuses, but even just in the last few years, because you're known for a guy who pisses people off.
That's kind of your brand.
I guess...
What pisses me off when somebody goes, I've been following you since before you were born.
That kind of...
Oh, come on now.
You're...
This is the thing.
You don't know with comedians, everything can get touchy.
Or who was it we had on who got furious?
The reception's bad here at the nursing home.
Well, you know...
My...
My polished, high-lit catheter is getting in the way of it.
Well, is it self-lubricating pocket catheter?
Because on AM radio, those sell like hotcakes.
I know.
I want to get the sample kit of catheters.
I heard you can make bonds out of half of them.
Yes.
I'm getting my cup read done.
I'm getting my cup read done with a door in it so I don't have to step over it.
But no, yeah, the PC, yeah, it's got progressively worse.
I mean, like I told you, I did stand up my first...
My first open mic gig was in 1987, and after probably my third time on stage, somebody goes, hey, you're kind of politically incorrect.
That's where it's headed, man.
You're in the right spot.
And even then, I said to the guy, I don't think so.
And it's going to get exponentially worse.
Well, yeah, I know.
I don't know.
You know what's funny?
We've talked about that.
Not to get off the comedy thing, but you know, most women didn't want the right to vote.
Did you know that?
Is that right?
Yeah, you know why?
Because back then to vote, you were a part of the draft.
Bucket duty was voluntary firefighter service.
So it was like 70-something, but despite what Meryl Streep will tell you in her academy-worthy performance, which they claim every single one is, most women did not want to vote because it was seen as a privilege that came with responsibilities and women didn't want it.
When I said that to the ticket holder, I remember at a movie theater in Sutton's Bay, she swore up and down I was lying to her until I brought it up on my phone.
100% true.
Well, how do we get...
How do we channel those women to today's women?
How do we get back to those times?
No, I'm just...
No, no, I think you're right, though.
Ann Coulter said something like, I don't know, if women weren't voting, if they didn't have the vote, Republicans would have won every election except for one since the Eisenhower administration or something like that.
Probably.
And I tell you what, I know Trump is not going to help Republicans with that right now.
That's kind of his Achilles heel.
But back to the comedy thing.
You know, it's funny you said that.
I would think that in 87 it was certainly more open.
That was part of my rant, right?
Even if you look at the hippies back then, they at least sort of tried to feign like they were fighting for free speech.
Kids on college campus right now...
You know, not only were they not even there for 9-11, Nick, so this is even for me, just a few years removed, it's just sort of been assumed, well, hate speech isn't acceptable, offensive speech isn't acceptable, it's not even an issue to them, it's just assumed, yeah, we have to limit speech.
So, I gotta imagine, from 87 to there, it's a stark contrast.
They weren't even around for 9-11.
With a view like that, it kind of makes me wish they were.
Third floor doing some banking.
In the sunglass hut?
Yeah, we're picking up a Jamba Juice.
Oh God, we're going to get letters.
Look, they've been brainwashed.
Back in 87, if you watch movies from the 80s, you can see the liberal jerk-offs who make film at work.
That's when it started to take over, the politically correct messages in movies.
Watch Philadelphia with Tom Hanks.
You want to see an attack on old white men?
And not to mention all those silly little romantic comedies that bloomed in the mid-80s.
Just watch the politically correct nonsense.
I'm sure it was happening before that.
I mean, Hollywood's always been liberal.
But that's when I even noticed, you know?
Well, I think you're right about the 80s because, right, Reagan...
Hollywood sort of fancies itself as anti-authoritarian, though.
Right now, you know, they are the man.
They're the media, they're the entertainment industry, and they have the White House.
And for several years, they had the House of Representatives.
I mean, they had the supermajority.
But, you know, in the 80s with Reagan, I think they had free rent.
Like, for example, it was Philadelphia, the AIDS thing.
It was never an epidemic.
Yeah.
It was never an epidemic.
That your chances of getting AIDS, unless you're shooting dirty needles and having gay orgies in a truck stall, are statistically less than 0% in the United States.
They always have been.
I said that.
I see a lot of unhealthy Haitian choreographers and a lot of rugged construction workers.
Haitian choreographers.
And I was making these jokes at the peak of, you know, this type of material that kept me doing radio in my basement the last few years.
But, uh...
No, I'm just so tired of it.
It doesn't even faze me now.
I just plow ahead.
I mean, Trump, look, I'm not a huge Trump fan and stuff, but he sort of won me over just with a set of balls on him.
I was half asleep on the couch, you know, six months ago when he started.
He was imitating that reporter from The New York Times, just a disabled guy or whatever.
And I almost fell off the couch laughing.
I don't know.
He's got my book.
Not that I want to make fun of, you know, physically challenged people.
I'm just saying.
Is that an endorsement?
Yeah, that's an endorsement.
This is precisely why, you know, unlike Nick, I've kind of been sucked into this political sphere, and he's really done more, say, more on the comedy side.
People are like, why don't you endorse someone?
Because of what you just heard.
There's so many quotes like that from me, they can trudge up, and they'll be like, did this man who played Spot the Transsexual on April 3rd endorse you, Mr.
Rubio, or whoever it is?
No, you know, it's fine.
I don't like Trump because I think, especially as comedians, you know, an authoritarian, a guy who's alluded to cracking down on free speech is a problem for guys like you and me.
And, you know, all of a sudden, if you don't like him, that's, you know, it's a problem.
But I like, like you said, the things that I don't like about him have nothing to do with the reasons the media hate him.
That he makes fun of somebody, or he says, build a wall, or he says, you know, buzz lips are a problem.
None of those things bother me.
Um, but it's the free speech issue.
I mean, as a comedian, does that make you a little uneasy when you see him talking about libel laws with the press and really just anyone he doesn't like, it seems, is the umbrella sort of definition?
Well, yeah, I mentioned that today on my podcast.
One of the things I don't like, he wears, like, two thin skins, you know?
Yeah.
But I think he would have a hell of a time to pass the most libel law.
Although, you know, who knows, he could pull an Obama and just pass whatever he wants and play King for a day.
Right.
Um, But just him, you know, just him saying that Hillary, if she was a guy, should be at 5%, that is, to me, that is so refreshing.
And just, I'm splashing around in it.
Like, you know, I just, it's just so refreshing.
I cannot wait like that's calling her fat and ugly.
I mean, I can't wait for this.
It's going to be like Godzilla vs Mighty Joe Young if she's not in jail.
Right.
Well, they could both be in some serious legal trouble.
Well, before November, I mean, they both have laws.
She has an indictment.
He has some big lawsuits, right?
Is Trump you and now raping a young girl?
I don't think it's true.
This is the first time, though, two presidential candidates could be either indicted or just facing a...
Best of America right there.
I can't believe it's come to this.
Did you just say rape?
Yeah, you haven't heard that?
He was like, this gang rape for an underage girl.
I don't think there's any truth to it, just like the Ted Cruz affairs, but there is a lawsuit right now on Trump for rape.
Yeah, and when did that surface?
Eight minutes ago?
Yeah, about a couple of days ago.
About eight minutes after we went at one in Indiana, did that come up?
No, it came up before Indiana.
I don't think it's true at all, but I try and be consistent.
Is she dragging around a mattress?
Right, yeah.
God, that was one of those.
Well, that's right.
You're in New York, and every time those come out, they're almost always verifiably proven false.
I can't believe we would have heard about this rape charge last year when he announced he was running.
What was the hesitation?
No, it just...
The lawsuit, I think, was just filed.
And that's why I do think it's politically motivated.
Absolutely.
Yeah, the timing, it's very odd, isn't it?
Yeah.
Well, that's the same thing with the Cruz affairs, which then, you know, went away.
Well, first of all, how can anybody...
Did anybody really believe there were chicks banging Ted Cruz other than his wife?
Well, I mean, look at Arnold.
I can't, I can't how much power he has.
Look at Arnold and who he picks.
Or Tiger Woods.
Like, sometimes it's not even about attraction.
Like, Arnold just, like, went with this lady who...
Like, one of the ugliest people ever.
Yeah.
No, I know.
But he's the ugly one.
Cruz in this equation.
Yeah?
But men are usually...
I don't...
But that would be even less, right?
Because women, as long as you're powerful.
Whereas with Arnold, he, like, went after...
No, that's what I'm saying.
His ugliness outdid his powerfulness.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I heard...
When I heard him and Carly Fiorino were running together, I go, as long as they're not sleeping together, I don't want to see that hybrid child.
Yeah, I know.
I don't think anyone does.
I actually think for, what is she, 65?
I have no idea.
She's certainly better looking than Hillary.
She stays more fit.
Oh, absolutely.
I'd tag her.
No doubt.
Well, it's funny you say it about Hillary because we wrote an article not long ago and we did the, you know, the Obama, the red and blue sign.
We put Hillary's face in there and we put it on a wall and it said, bitch, right underneath Hillary.
And the article was, bitch will become the new N-word.
Everyone said, well, you're just saying socialist because you want to say the N-word.
And when we released this, what was this, Jared, maybe eight months ago?
Even conservatives were, oh, I can't, were outraged.
And when we re-released it recently, same post, met to fanfare from both the right and the left.
So it's the same thing.
We just re-released it, and people were no longer offended.
No one likes her.
Do you feel that in the...
You know, you're more in the comedy club circuit still these days.
Do you feel, even with fellow comedians, like Hillary Clinton is kind of like their George Bush, where a lot of it is indefensible, and they're not really big fans.
They just feel they have to pull that lever?
I don't know.
I hang around my house by myself.
I don't like anybody in my business.
But I would never call Hillary to be with it.
I might drop a C on her.
Well, okay.
All right.
You're far more tasteful than I. There's a shift, though, even in the last few months.
And I don't know.
I think some of that is due to Trump.
And I think, like you said, there are a lot of people like you out there who are just tired.
You can only call people racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic as a new thing for so long until they go, all right, let's go with that.
And they're fine with it.
Well, Trump is...
Look, you can only trample on the working class for so long.
And they've been working class shifts.
And they've done it for 40 years in this country before they finally react.
And this is what you're watching with Trump getting all the support.
You know?
They finally strike back.
You can only piss on somebody for so long.
So...
It's refreshing.
I actually...
And like I said, a lot of Trump...
Even before he...
When I started to run, when I would see him on The Apprentice or on TV in an interview, I would go, how is this guy a billionaire?
He sounds like a bit of a dope.
That's what I used to say, but then he won me over with just going, hey, I don't have time for political correction.
And that's why he's doing as well as he did.
He's doing as well as he's doing.
That's what it's about.
It's about the culture.
It's about working class deaf white guys I'm tired of being called bigot and racist.
This is a reaction.
I hope it's not just a temporary one.
I hope it's a tsunami that overturns this crap.
I'm so sick of listening to Black Lives Matter.
On that note, we're going to bring you right back after the break because I wanted to talk about that.
Nick DiPaolo, stay tuned.
funniest man walking and now for Donald Trump unifies the GOP okay frankly his dad was there when they killed I don't know why I was talking about this.
His dad practically pulled the trigger.
He said it was a second shooter, okay?
I don't know this for a fact.
I'm pretty sure it's Ted Cruz's dad.
By the way, his wife, you see that face?
Look at that face.
Look at that face, Ted.
Look at the face of your wife, you know?
I can't believe the face.
Horrified.
This is terrible to face.
And the winner of the Indiana primary is Donald Trump.
Oh, that's great.
Thanks, voters.
We're going to make America great again.
Hey, Ted, we good?
When it's gonna party, we will party hard.
We'll be right back.
Alright, glad to be back with the next guest.
We have to play those silly bumper music, and I know for him he's like, ah, he's so used to doing all the morning shows where there's a toilet flush sound or something like that.
You're the comedians, you have to do this forever.
And we don't want to do that to him, but Nick DiPaolo, follow him on Twitter, Nick DiPaolo Podcast.
Whenever I see people sending screenshots and they're subscribed to me, they go, who else should I subscribe to?
Right away, we'll subscribe to Nick's thing.
Nick, thanks for being with us.
You mentioned Black Lives Matter before we went to the break.
This is a big shift.
When I was at, not UMass, before that, I was at Cal Poly, and we had bomb threats, and we had to have cops go through.
Black Lives Matter showed up, and in the paper, they fact-checked my jokes and asked me to check my privilege.
You have anything like that happen?
What?
Are you serious?
I'm absolutely serious.
And here's the thing.
You know, Nick, for all this stuff at UMass, we've sort of talked about this.
Were they outright protests?
At least you know where you're aiming, right?
But they come up and they were dead quiet and they had their phone on.
And every time I would make a joke...
Well, you can't see me, that's right, because you don't like the Skypes.
So every time I would make a joke, they would shake their head no, like five people in the front row, just to make everyone uncomfortable laughing.
And then they wrote in a paper that, I don't know, something I said wasn't accurate about black history, which it most likely was because it was a joke.
Yeah, this happens all the time.
And it happened in clubs before this, certainly in Canada, because they don't really have freedom of speech.
Do you think it's just college campuses?
I mean, you're big enough where you'll do kind of theaters on your own right now, so do you think...
Well, no, no.
I'm in clubs more than I am in theaters.
And yeah, it is college campuses.
I don't do college campuses.
I did one in Staten Island.
But, you know, Staten Island.
College in Staten Island, that's like...
I think it might have been...
I think it was DeVry.
No, I don't know what it was.
It was Phoenix?
Nobody complained, but...
No, I could never do that.
I would never go near a college camp with that type of dyke-long atmosphere.
Really?
We're answering to young black college students what we can and can't say?
Really?
Well, yeah.
I mean, you're white, so that's just kind of how it's supposed to be set up right now.
But even in comedy clubs, I mean, you have a lot of bookers.
Look, you have to be honest with black people.
This is a new generation of black people.
The black people my age like to know where you stand.
They like the crazy white comic who is speaking his mind.
I was just in Arlington, Virginia.
This past weekend, and it was a black guy right in the middle.
I mean, with a durag on and like a...
I think he was wearing a...
I was playing to him.
I was feeding off his energy the whole time.
He was laughing.
And the more honest I was being, the harder he was laughing.
He came up to me after the show.
Then he tweeted me.
And this is true.
In my 28 years of doing stand-up, I swear to God, I've had maybe 10 black people walk out because they, you know...
Right.
Yeah, I know.
They're the ones that get offended for the guy.
Though I have had people outright get...
Well, again, it's a generational thing.
Black people get ultra-sensitive with it.
I mean, what do you think someone like...
Obviously you can't speak for him, but you were so close, and a lot of you were with Patrice O'Neal.
He wasn't around for the Black Lives Matter, right?
And you were constantly ribbing each other on Tough Crowd.
It was constantly a racial joke, or you're a WAP, and you're a Jew.
What do you think you would have thought of Black Lives Matter?
He would have hated it.
He would have hated it, because like I just said, and some young kid, some young black homer came up to me like three months ago in a club here in New York.
I think he would say he was from Philly.
I mean like 22 years old.
And he comes up and he introduces himself and he goes, yo man, I met Patrice O'Neill a couple years ago and he said you were straight out gangster when it came to comedy.
I went, okay, I don't know what that means, but I'll take it.
I don't know what that means.
I don't know what that means.
I don't use Skype very often, Crowder.
I'll Google that later.
What he meant, I'm totally honest on stage, no matter who's sitting in the crowd.
Right.
But like, here's a good example, Hillary...
You know, at that black radio station saying that she had hot sauce.
Oh my gosh, we ran with that.
We had that on a loop like a morphine drip.
That's the best way to lose votes with black.
She was pandering.
Everybody in the room know it.
When they said, what are you carrying in your purse?
They would have had more respect for her if she said, well, thanks to your people, I carry Mace.
And they would have laughed their ass off.
And at least that's the black people I grew up with.
It's not the same, man.
It's not the same.
And the black people you grew up with, you know, they were right.
Their parents, if not them, you know, they at least understood the civil rights movement.
There was some kind of a struggle.
These kids have none of that, and they're more offended than ever.
That's the odd thing.
I think that, obviously not making an old joke because you're older than me, but people even just five years older than me.
The black people I grew up with, you know, Red Fox and Duke Ellington.
Yes, exactly.
Duke Ellington and Sammy Davis Jr., you know, people my age.
Well, you grew up with Bill Cosby, but that's because he was your babysitter.
No, you're absolutely right.
These kids are offended by everything.
They have experienced nothing in the way of pain.
But you're absolutely right.
When you stay off college campuses, I wish you didn't, just because they need to hear what you have out there.
And I think there's an entire generation of kids who would love it, because they're tired of it too.
Again, they're the silent majority.
You have to understand this about UMass, right?
That was maybe, I've heard as low as 700, as high as 1,000, like 800 people in there.
It's 29,000 students.
Maybe 40 or 50 of them were disruptive and yelling, you know, like that Trigglypuff, how she's infamously known.
And they just screamed the loudest.
The other people were cheering and drowning them out.
I think you'd be surprised.
It's a horrible dynamic for comedy.
No, you can't do it.
Look, you guys are up there and we're going to have a panel discussion sitting down.
That's a whole different dynamic if you're up there trying to do an hour by yourself.
Unless they're policing the room and they're voting people, which they're not going to because then somebody will file a lawsuit on a college campus.
But you can't be a headliner and up there by yourself.
And have people yelling crap out.
You can, because you're Nick DiPaolo and you're wonderful.
Well, yeah, anybody can go up there and any comic who's been doing it as long as I have and just verbally destroy people who are ruining this show.
But that's not what the rest of the people...
No, exactly.
It's disrespectful to the audience.
You're right, but...
Okay, well, you know what?
Let's do a couple minutes on a web extended here, not gay, Jared, because I think Nick will be able to throw the leash off and people listening terrestrially can go to ladderwithcreder.com and hear this.
But Nick, stay right here.
Nick DiPaolo Podcast, everyone else.
Go online.
And now for Donald Trump unifies the GOP.
Okay, let's see.
Frankly, you got this guy, okay, Dr.
Ben Carson.
I don't even know if he's a doctor.
Okay, look, I'm trying to see.
There's no degree for his doctor.
The only thing, okay, truthfully, I think he's a doctor in is being pathological.
Okay, like a pedophile.
You can't cure pathological.
This guy, okay, Dr.
Ben Carson, nice guy.
He's a pedophile.
Okay, you know, he likes to screw little kids.
I don't know.
I would never say that about him.
That's what the kids are.
He's screwed.
That's what they say.
They say, Dr.
Ben Carson, all he does is, you know, he does the brain surgery, okay, truthfully.
And when he's not, he's screwing little kids.
And the winner of the Indiana primary is Donald Trump.
Ah, that's great.
Thanks.
This is a great victory for America, okay?
Hey, Dr.
Carson, all water under the bridge?
Oh, glad to be glad to be back.
That was Nick DiPaolo.
We have Gerald Morgan coming on after the next break.
So I did have to change my shirt.
That shirt that I was wearing earlier, producing with me in the studio, as always, is NotGayJared.
Follow him at NotGayJared on Twitter.
I fulfill my legal obligations.
Draw your own conclusions.
The shirt had one of those.
It wasn't a tag where it says the material.
And it was digging into me.
I had to take it off.
I wanted to be professional for the newer guests.
But now I just had to go and get into something comfortable.
That shirt was just...
And it was making the noise.
And I had to roll it up because it had the...
What's that?
We got a Skype call coming in.
Who's Skyping us?
It's Dean Cain.
Why is Dean Cain Skyping us?
Hey, Dean.
Hey, Dean, are you there?
Yeah.
Hey, good.
Hey, we're doing a show.
Can we call you back later?
Is that okay?
Are you hungry right now?
Because I want to go to Applebee's real quick.
I just want you to grab a quick bite to eat.
Because I'm starving, dude.
I am, but we're busy.
Tell him we're doing a show.
Hey, Dean, seriously.
Yeah, yeah, we're live, though.
We're actually live, so can we call you back later?
Tell him we're doing a show.
We're doing a show right now.
Just click it.
Hang up.
Sorry.
Bye.
I don't know.
How often does that happen?
Pretty often.
I saw him.
Didn't he visit you when you were in the hospital?
He did.
A lot of people don't know he got on the show because you knew him before we ever worked together on the show.
No, he won't stop.
He just keeps calling.
Well, just make sure he knows it's a show.
It's fine.
He's a good guy.
Hey, by the way, we had some polls out earlier.
Over 2,000 people have answered in less than an hour.
Trump versus Hillary.
What are you doing?
48% have said Trump.
Negligible.
3% said Hillary.
But 34% said third party.
And 15% said, fluoride in your tap, exclamation, exclamation, exclamation.
That's a valid option.
We need to stop putting those options on there because I think it's the results.
The fact that it's pretty close between Trump and third party, it's a scary thing.
The GOP may be done.
Well, I've seen a lot of people talking about, ever since we have Austin Peterson on last week, people talking, it's kind of a tempting option now they know a little bit more about him.
I mean, it's a protest vote.
Yeah.
It's not really going to go anywhere.
But it could, you know...
Down the line.
Right.
Push the bar a little bit.
Someone was asking me, one of our fans here on Twitter, asking me about the alt-right.
What is your opinion on it?
But we've talked about it before.
There are some good people and there are some bad people in every movement.
I think when you start getting to the point where you're emailing the Nazi propaganda to Ben Shapiro, you go from being a disturber to...
If your goal is offense...
Being offensive is a perfectly acceptable delivery mechanism.
This is what I've always said.
And obviously I've offended a lot of people.
I'm fine with that.
If your goal is offense in and of itself, it just means you're a hack.
And someone like Nick, who's one of the best comedians ever, would tell you that.
And he's as offensive as they come.
But you can find offensive people at an open mic.
So my whole thing with people online, trolls, I understand that it can be used very well and very effectively.
And I'm not morally against it.
But if your end goal is, did you see how much I offended that person?
And that's it?
I mean, you can do it, obviously.
I just don't have a lot of respect for you as a performance artist, as a comedian, as an activist.
You're just a hack.
Not saying the entire alt-right is that way.
One thing I will say is I really do appreciate our fans.
We have very loyal fans.
They go online.
They create the memes.
But we have a Pretty informed fan base.
I'm not worried about them trying to dox somebody.
They'll argue with people.
I mean, they've been blocked by people like Amy Schumer, kind of a PC principal, or Farty, and one of them, Chewbacca's lover.
I don't know which one was blocked by Amy.
One of them hasn't been blocked by Sean King and was upset by it.
They're smart.
And most of them petitioned to get me fired.
It's true.
So it's...
They're smart.
They're instigators, but they still have a semblance of humanity.
So we appreciate them.
And they make fun of us the most, to be honest.
You just most of all.
Speaking of making fun of people who may or may not be gay and we don't know where they stand, Caitlyn Jenner will be on the cover of Sports Illustrated, nude with an American flag, and Bruce Jenner's medals.
There you go.
Merry Christmas in America.
Came early.
First off, I don't know what they do with the airbrushing, the bits and pieces.
No.
Nude.
Is it doing the Buffalo Bell talk?
Maybe that's where you put the medals.
Cover them?
Tastefully.
Just a little tasteful nudity.
Kind of like you do with the old Greek statues and the leaf?
Yeah, with the little tasteful little Bruce Sander side boob.
Only that they are medals that Caitlyn Jenner never won.
This is what's so silly about it.
Caitlyn Jenner has the exact same amount, well less, of athletic accomplishments as I do.
Particularly if you play by the whole transgender, LGBTQ, AAIP, NA silent F rules, right?
This is a new person.
Bruce says, watch the show.
Watch the I Am Kate show.
You know, Bruce is someone I'll miss, and Bruce is someone in the past, but this is, you know, I'm Caitlin now.
I'm a whole new person.
Yes, you are!
You're a whole new person!
Well then, sorry, you don't get to carry over medals.
If I win a gold medal, I have the hiccups, if I win a gold medal, scare me.
I'm taking my clothes off.
Okay.
Well, hiccups are gone.
They're gone.
If I win gold medals, they don't go to Not Gay Jared.
Bruce Jenner wins medals, they don't go to Caitlyn Jenner.
This isn't about intolerance.
These are the same people who, by the way, will get absolutely furious and want to strip athletes of medals for using performance-enhancing drugs.
Well, let's do the reverse.
Do you think Caitlyn Jenner could win anything in any category under the hormone replacement therapy?
Not to mention the added weight.
I mean, you try to lean down as a decathlete, you're adding a couple of pounds of rubberized gelatinous...
Goo.
...tit.
There's that, too?
Either word.
There's no way Caitlyn Jenner's winning any kind of an athletic endeavor.
There is no consistency whatsoever with the transgender thing.
And, you know, we never want to speak ill of former employers, of course.
But people were asking me about the PJTV thing.
And actually, there are a lot of great friends at PJTV. It just made me think about it because we were talking about the trans thing.
And it made me think about Wham!
and Fun Dip, who got furious for people who listened when the show started.
He was my producer.
And how mad he would get about the trans stuff.
And there was never any consistency.
There was never any consistency.
He was a perfect emblem of, you know, just you couldn't argue.
There was no logic.
Just, well, whatever people want, whatever they feel, whatever their soul says.
So now Caitlyn Jenner wants to steal Bruce Jenner's medals?
Don't you think it's kind of ironic that for a strong now feminist, she built all of her fame off the back of a man's talent?
And he built it off the back of whores.
Well, there you go.
His daughters.
Now, what do you mean whores?
I mean, they have sex on camera for money.
Yeah.
Well, I guess that's kind of valid.
People get mad all the time at that.
Like, you can't slut shame.
Are you a slut?
Maybe you should be shamed.
Oh.
I guess it's kind of self-induced, isn't it?
Do you feel bad about yourself?
I do, a little bit.
Well, there you go.
Your mom raised you very poorly.
Yeah.
Caitlyn Jenner, tweet me at S. Crowder, what do you think?
It's one of those deals where there is no logic to this issue.
And you want to talk about the social justice leftism, Trigglypuff?
By the way, I think we have the best video on Trigglypuff that the internet will see on Monday.
Not to tease you, but it might be Tuesday morning.
But I think you're going to look forward to it if you want more Trigglypuff.
I was talking about this.
Someone asked me, I don't remember who it was, recently this week saying, well, why do you think that they're also, you know, the transgender thing, the bathroom deal, Black Lives Matter, they're always very disruptive and pretty violent, you know, leftists, Occupy Wall Street, Black Lives Matter, at our rally, yelling, cussing, swearing, whereas the tea party, they left places cleaner than they found them, whether you like it or not.
Generally, conservative protests have not been violent.
Conservative protests.
And it's something really simple.
It kind of hit me.
Well, think about it for a second.
Big government, socialism, the only way to make that work, when you boil it down, is through violent force.
Coercion.
That's the only way.
When people are saying, the People's Revolution, at least to be fair.
Well, how are you going to do it?
We're going to take their stuff.
What if they don't want to do that?
Well, we're going to force them.
What if they say, I'm not giving you 65% of what I've earned?
The real answer?
We're going to send in people who are armed to take it and put them in jail.
The real answer is, unlike capitalism, unlike free enterprise, which can only function through voluntary transaction, again, the tree...
Let's get to the center of this, right?
The tree trunk.
Gosh, I was like stump?
No, because that's a dead tree.
Tree trunk is violence.
That's the root of liberalism.
That's the root of socialism, communism, centralized government.
They can only take it through force.
So of course it stands to reason that the people who are protesting, who are out there getting what they want...
They're using the same technique that they believe government should do, which is take it by force.
You don't like someone else's speech?
Take it by force.
Keep your hands being on this campus!
Keep your hands being on this campus!
Shaking their little teacher arm fat.
Little?
Occupy Wall Street.
We believe the government should redistribute it.
Okay, well you're in the wrong part of Zuccotti Park here in New York.
I'm going to drop a deuce in someone else's tent.
The root of liberalism, people, at the end of the day, it can only be accomplished through violence.
That's the ultimate threat.
That's not necessary for capitalism.
What is necessary for capitalism, not talking crony capitalism, is a voluntary transaction.
The only way you succeed is if someone wants your goods, your product, your service.
And so when you think, when you go, okay, this is the trunk of the tree, the branches coming off, it makes sense that they're inherently more violent than conservatives.
That leftists are that way, that they throw these temper tantrums, that they throw rocks through windows, that they burn down cities.
Because at the end of the day, they're doing this because they want a system of government that effectively would have to do the same thing to accomplish what they want.
Take your pick.
Anything.
Anything that Bernie Sanders prompted.
Free college.
We're going to take the money.
We're going to take the money from the Cayman Islands!
How?
Eventually walked on the line.
Government force.
It's not peaceful.
For all the peaceful hippies that we love, man, at the end of the day, you are advocating forcibly taking other people's things that they have rightfully earned.
And we're going to do a video rebuttal on the Karl Marx video that has been circulating because he was trending today.
It is one of those things where I'm amazed that we're in a generation people actually praise Karl Marx.
I'm also amazed that Caitlyn Jenner apparently gets to take Bruce Jenner's medals.
A chick gets to take a guy's medal for winning a guy's division.
And if you say, hey, that's kind of weird, plus Caitlyn still has a pecker, it's hate speech.
Welcome to 2016, my friend.
Welcome to 2016.
So, if it seems like I'm not able to make sense of that, it's because I'm not.
If someone wants to come on the program and present a valid case as to Caitlyn Jenner's athletic accomplishments, I am all ears.
And boobs.
And wiener, because I can have all of them.
Gerald Morgan, rocket scientist doctor after the break.
break.
Stay tuned.
We'll see you next time.
I did not want to do this, but I had no other way.
Left with what I believe most Americans and their canine counterparts find to be unsatisfactory candidates for president, I would like to announce that I am beginning Hopper's exploratory committee for president.
My formal announcement of candidacy and policies will come in the following weeks, but I can tell you that a Hopper platform, without a doubt, will provide equal rights under the law for everyone and sardines and all the cheeses for all the peoples and dogs, but not the cats.
Also, I have very thorough plans for what to do with the current squirrel infestation.
I think you're going to like it.
Stay down, NKJ.
Stay down, NKJ.
So listen, it's free, you get to be entertained, and you can chime in.
Also, if you're following me on Twitter, you can send me your tweets and maybe you'll be lucky enough, and I mean lucky enough because I have a lot of followers, okay, that they call me the follower machine, to have your tweet to me, or not Gay Jared, included in our rockinest tweet of the week.
So follow me on Twitter, at escrowder, if not...
I don't want to say I have sights on your mother, but...
Oh, she's dead?
You're just saying that because I made a mom joke.
No, she's really dead?
Ed, well, you kind of walked into it.
I'm going to do the things that I want to do.
I ain't got a thing to prove to you.
I ain't gonna Alright, we're back with our guest.
That was very poor dancing to people watching in the video studio.
It's embarrassing for all of us.
It was, you know, the Muppet dance.
And this next guest is not a fan of the Muppets.
But he is a very accomplished neurosurgeon, rocket scientist.
I think he has three PhDs.
Three now?
I heard four on the street.
He could be four.
I think he might have added gender studies.
But he's a very learned man, and we are fortunate to be graced with his presence.
You can follow him at G. Morgan Jr.
Gerald Morgan, are you with us, sir?
I am, and in the immortal words of King Prawn, what'd you do?
What'd you do?
What'd you do?
Oh, that is...
Pepe the King Prawn is one...
Actually, that's right.
I converted Gerald.
He's one of the funniest characters in all of TV film.
Pepe the King Prawn.
And Gerald and I remember, I think we had a couple of beers one night and we were watching The Muppet Show.
So good.
It made it more interesting.
Yes, it made it more interesting.
So, okay, Gerald, you were chomping at the bit to come onto this program.
Usually you always, you ditch us, but the audience likes you because of the Trump situation.
You were pretty upset.
They haven't even seen him.
They've never seen him.
If they've seen him, they would really...
Well, you can cut to you if you're talking.
They would really be in for a treat if they could see him.
If they could see Gerald?
Yes.
Well, I'm just saying I have better pictures than the one on Twitter.
I mean, come on, really?
I think we know that.
The yellow shirt, like, yeah, it's on purpose.
I get it.
Yes, it is absolutely on purpose.
You're shaming me right now.
Your body's shaming me, and I don't like it.
Well, no.
You shame yourself, sir.
Ouch.
I did wear those clothes in public.
You did wear those clothes in public.
And you could, like, that's the thing.
It's like, look, it prevents chafing.
You and I both know you could put pants on over it.
This is a decision you've made, and now you have to live with the consequences and meet the Internet.
So you were upset this week with the Donald Trump Ted Cruz.
We obviously know that you don't like Donald Trump.
I don't know.
You often work late into the evening, so I don't know if you saw my statement early on.
The fact is, rules are rules.
And I don't like it, but I said, hey, you know, Donald Trump...
You won.
Congrats on the win.
And let's see where it goes.
Doesn't mean that I'm a fan, but I feel like we do have to accept the results if they go by the rules that we agreed to beforehand.
Where are you with this?
Yeah, it's like the convention's going to be the slow clap that never really takes off.
You know, there's going to be five people.
I don't know.
And nobody joins.
You know, maybe one other guy on the other side of the arena.
But I just, it wasn't, I mean, you and I kind of talked offline just a little bit about it.
You text me like, hey, you know, everybody's going to be pissed to some degree.
I think you're right.
The process is the process.
My problem is, Is just, and I hate to say that your listeners don't really fall into this category, but everybody else, if you're listening to this, turn it up really loud and maybe get a pen out.
We're stupid.
If we think that these people on both sides are the best that we've got, the very best options for the greatest country in the history of the world, For these two people to be our leaders, we are absolutely idiots.
And we will very quickly find out that we can't be idiots our entire life and expect to stay free.
It just does not happen.
History shows us over and over and over again.
Whenever we start to get high on ourselves and think that we've got it all figured out, And that we can put people into power that we like because they maybe talk to us like a game show host or somebody who skirts the law and gets away with it and we're like, well, cool, they keep getting away with it.
I guess I'll root for them.
Then we will quickly find out that our country comes to an end at some point.
It can't happen.
It never has happened in history and it won't happen for us.
Well, and it has to, like I said, but it sounds like you're saying at a certain point, like I said, if he got the delegates, he got the number, fine.
Or if it went to a contested convention, fine.
And here we are, other people dropped out.
I don't like it, just like I don't like the fact that the Vegas betting odds are overwhelmingly favor Hillary Clinton, but that's reality.
And that's why I have a problem with the Never Trump thing, even though long before Never Trump existed, long before a lot of these other AM radio hosts who were on board with Trump for ratings until they finally decided to pivot.
I said, I'm not going to vote for him.
I also don't believe in making sure it's Never Trump at the cost of the process and at the cost of the will of the people, even if they're wrong.
Absolutely.
You and I have talked about this before in regards to other matters.
Freedom is always messy, but it's always worth it.
So we get the people that the system gives us because it's more important that we adhere to the policies that we put forth in the system than it is that we go, oh wait, well I don't want Trump, so let's do something underhanded to get him out.
I've never been a fan of Trump.
Frankly, I never thought he'd make it fast.
Frankly, it's going to be huge.
Sorry, you do a better impersonation.
No, it's okay.
You can take the mic from me.
Listen, I've never been a fan either, but this is where we are.
This is where we're at.
That's the reason that I wanted to say a few things tonight.
We have to care.
We have to stop just living our lives in a way that really leaves us with people like this.
The only way that they can grab our attention is to say something offensive.
That's the only way that Trump grabs attention is by saying something that's offensive to the majority of people in the country, but we're such...
I don't know.
We're so tuned to entertainment that we retweet that stuff all over the place.
No, I don't think that's why, though.
Respectfully, I think you're wrong about that.
I think people are actually—they're refreshed.
And I like this about Trump, that he's not afraid to back something—he doesn't back something up because someone else says it's offensive.
And even though I disagree with his policies, I do think more people should tear a page from that book.
Saying build a wall shouldn't be offensive, and people say it's offensive.
No, I know.
It's not offensive.
What's offensive to say to people is like, yeah, you're all criminals and we're going to send you all home.
That's absolutely not true.
Oh, no, absolutely.
Well, no, not that.
What would be offensive to someone...
For example, I think, listen, handshake, congratulations politically from Ted Cruz, right, to Donald Trump.
But Ted Cruz, as a man, after Donald Trump insulted his wife's looks and said that his dad was involved with the shooting of JFK, he deserves to deliver an absolute...
Magnificent pecker punch to Donald Trump in payback.
And then, okay, let's move on to politics.
But personally, you don't shake and make up with a guy like that.
That's very different from a policy difference.
Well, personally, I thought we were better than the two candidates that it looks like we're going to be stuck with on one side and on the other.
I don't think Donald Trump is a serious candidate.
I really don't.
It just seems like he got in it and all of a sudden was popular and like, well, crap, now what do I do?
I guess I got to get a campaign staff together and do these things.
And he may end up being just fine as a president for a little while.
But if we consistently pick people like this to represent us, we're going to have a lot of problems.
And I just think that it's time for us to go, okay, this is our gut check moment here.
Okay.
Donald Trump made it to be the Republican nominee.
The problem is most people did.
Most people did, even in the Republican Party.
Most people did not vote for Donald Trump.
He didn't ever get anywhere near a majority.
No.
No, I know.
But the way the system is set up, we have to mobilize people to go out and actually vote for a solid candidate.
We don't do that right now.
We go for ratings people.
We go for the people that we see the most because we don't spend any time digging into who these people are.
You explain it a lot on your show.
On the podcast.
Well, we don't, but Ted Cruz and Carly Furin and Rubio screwed up, and they've been running it like it's a campaign in 1996, and they deserve to lose.
They deserve to lose.
No, we're going to have you back on after the break, and it pains me to say it, but I'm tired of all of their faces at this point.
People get exhausted, and it's because of the way these people have these incestuous advisors and strategists.
We'll talk more about it after the break.
Gerald Morgan, the most qualified guy on the show.
Stay tuned.
Tune later with Crowder.
Steven Crowder here.
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I'm just having trouble getting through this book.
That's because you can't read.
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Music And now for Donald Trump Unifies the GOP. Okay, listen, Casey, what is he even doing?
I don't even know.
The guy has no ratings, okay?
He has no polls.
The guy's won one state.
Okay, he's a loser.
Okay, listen, I would never say, the guy's got pockmarks, okay?
So many pockmarks.
You want a president, frankly, who has pockmarks like that?
He has pockmarks, okay?
And even his wife, nobody likes him.
In Ohio, his wife doesn't like him.
I'm not saying this.
This is what other people say.
I think John Kasich, you know, he's such a bad guy.
He can't win a single poll.
And the winner of the Indiana primary is Donald Trump.
That's great.
Great news.
We're going to make America great again.
Thank you for choosing me as your president.
Hey, Governor Kasich, I still ate your guts.
All right, glad to be back.
Before I bring on my next guest, I'm looking at some of the tweets.
A couple of things.
First, someone said, why aren't you a part of the Never Trump movement?
Isn't the sentiment the same?
No, I just explained it.
I probably will never vote Donald Trump.
Like I said, I reserve the right to change my mind if he surrounds himself with brilliant people.
I do not believe in the idea of Never Trump at the cost of integrity of the process and the party.
I am not Never Trump like some people right now believe in Never Trump, even if it means trotting out Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan.
I also think just being a joiner in a hashtag is kind of silly.
Sorry, and it's also why this show has consistently grown while other people have taken that divisive issue and not been reasonable.
Everyone knows where I stand on that.
Another one, Adam at Lunch Sack, Adam Anderson.
Thanks for tweeting me.
He goes, Vegas is overwhelmingly Clinton?
It's 60-40.
Checkpredictit.org.
Trump is the people's choice.
Give him some cred.
First off, 40% is not the people's choice.
Secondly, a 60-40 election is exactly what we would refer to as a landslide.
60-40 would be a landslide election.
Those are unbelievable odds, 60-40.
In politics, that is unreal.
I'm just getting frustrated with people who have no idea what they're talking about.
Even about five-point difference is huge.
In an election, that is monumental.
Bringing back, of course, at G. Morgan Jr., Gerald Morgan.
Gerald, is it me?
60-40 split, that means huge odds in Hillary's favor right now.
Thank you for reading those because you just proved my point.
Lots of morons out there who don't understand what's going on.
Well, no, the first one is asking to never Trump, but people, you know, there's a nuance there.
Well, they want you to have an untenable position.
It's not never Trump.
We want the system to survive more than we want to keep a bad guy like Trump out of office.
They don't understand that.
They're willing to sacrifice all of that, not understanding what will come next.
Right.
Get rid of this system.
Fine.
Then you have nothing.
Right.
They're idiots.
I'm sorry.
Both of those were idiots.
Right.
I love you guys.
I'm not saying you, I'm saying you in general, not specifically.
No, I just want to clarify my position.
I think it's entirely tenable and logical.
You don't have to like the results, but if you sign up for the rules, it was my same problem with Donald Trump and the delegates.
He benefited from the delegate game more than anyone, got proportionally far more delegates than he did votes, and then he complains when he loses.
What bothers me is the inconsistency from people on the left and the right.
And I've never been inconsistent.
I'm not changing my personal stance on Trump.
Right.
But you're branded as you are, because people want to yell and scream.
No, I'm not branded that way.
People are just asking these questions, which are hopefully clarified.
Listen, I clarified them three times.
Plus, hashtags are silly.
They're silly.
You see someone with a NeverTrump hashtag in their thing.
I'm sorry.
I understand it.
I understand supporting.
But at this point, at this point, why?
At this point, what does that mean, NeverTrump?
You're just not going to vote Trump?
Fine.
You don't need a hashtag.
At this point...
You want them to try out Paul Ryan or John Boehner?
I probably, I won't vote Trump unless he surrounds himself with geniuses.
I've said that.
I've been the most vocal opponent.
But right now, today, May 5th, if you're saying never Trump, what are you saying?
Exactly.
I think that's ultimately my point, too.
That there are people that are willing to just get rid of everything because they don't like the guy.
I don't like the guy, but he won.
He's the nominee.
There's no way around that.
He's going to get the number of delegates that he needs.
Case closed.
We move on, right?
We're probably looking at Hillary Donald Trump.
My problem is that I don't want to be in this position in four years and in eight years and in 12 years and in 16 years where we're like, well, gee, man, you know, like, right, a guy like Donald Trump, we never thought he'd be a reality TV star and come out and be a presidential candidate.
Who knew?
Right.
I'd kind of like to have good people out there, people like you said, We're good to go.
We've said before, the campaigns will never be the same after this.
They shouldn't be.
They shouldn't have been the same in this cycle.
They shouldn't have been the same a long time ago.
I'm just as frustrated.
Listen, this is not a policy issue, but I am just as frustrated with the GOP as Trump people are because they are so mind-numbingly stupid.
First off, I don't even understand.
How does Lindsey Graham, how does Mitch McConnell get to be in a position of power?
How do the GOP go, oh, this is a sound, yeah, we're good with it.
They're absolute morons.
Morons.
And Ted Cruz is brilliant when it comes to the Constitution.
When it comes to running a campaign, was good with the delegates.
He couldn't adapt fast enough at all.
These people are just, they deserve to lose.
They deserve, does it mean that Donald Trump deserved to win?
No, it's like watching one of those awful smoker fights where they're just, they're just clinging on to each other for dear life and their And one of them gets hauled on a stretcher and the other guy only won because one of them went into cardiac arrest because they couldn't get on a treadmill.
That was this election.
And I know everyone, it's popular to always bitch.
No one did a good job.
Trump did a good job with the campaigning.
But, I mean, we have to be fair there.
I know Gerald is too, but it's just...
He did a good job with very little understanding of how the campaign process works.
What does that tell you?
He understood people, and that's what he needed to understand.
And unfortunately, a presidential race and most of politics has turned into a popularity contest.
What happens in high school when you vote for class president and the most popular person wins?
They do nothing.
Same thing happens.
It carries over.
Or they promise you for extreme.
But you know what you're doing?
You're doing what I get upset with with conservatives and a host doing.
That's true.
So, adapt.
The animal that survives is not the strongest, it's not the fastest, it's the animal that adapts.
So yeah, you're right, that's true, but that's reality.
And the GOP's just been saying that and bitching about it.
But you know what?
Carly Fiorina, Ted Cruz, not only should have been back on this program, like I said, Adam Carolla, shows like Joe Rogan, Howard Stern, all these shows that conservatives don't like because of naughty language, they should have been doing that.
I agree.
And I'm just using those as an example, but the same thing, the way they would use social media, the way they would try and go into only the Christian white Bible belt type voter districts.
It's asinine, and I'm just as mad with them at this point.
We needed a little more drunk Ted Cruz at night tweeting for himself.
Yes, we did.
That's what the world needed.
Fed with a few bottles of scotch, handy.
Not a few bottles, Gerald.
You're trying to kill him?
No, handy.
I'd like to get a sip occasionally.
Come on.
You've got to have a stock.
You've got one glass hanging around.
He did say he was a scotch guy, which surprised me because I thought he was a Southern Baptist.
Picture this, though.
I was just tweeting about this earlier this week.
Trump's president, but we film every moment of it like the Truman Show and air it.
But he doesn't know.
He doesn't know.
He doesn't know.
We will see where those tweets come from.
I think that is highly illegal.
Alright, Gerald, what else did you want to get off your chest on this?
My chest?
I really wanted to mention that you should probably take your shirt off on air next time if you're going to change.
Just for the ladies.
It's not going to be for the ladies.
Believe me, if you look at our followership.
It's going to be for the not gay Jared fans.
Not gay guy.
Not gay guy over there.
Yeah.
We have a very strong gay libertarian conservative following.
So we're pretty grateful for that.
I think it's going to take us to high places.
Did all six of them find us?
It's a niche market.
It's a niche market.
It's growing.
But the t-shirts are coming.
Well, that's a perfect example, right?
There are plenty of gay people out there who are frustrated with it.
You know, I don't know why people like Ted Cruz and Carly Fearing weren't really focusing on the winning issues like the freedom of speech and the social justice left.
They don't get it.
They don't get it.
That that's a big issue right now.
That's a big winning issue if they focused on it.
And they never even talk about it.
I agree.
One other thing I did want to say is don't vote third party.
Make a choice.
Either choose to vote for the person that you want to win or choose to vote against them.
Right?
I mean, or choose to vote against the other person.
Make the choice.
Don't vote third party.
Third party basically just splits the vote.
And whoever, if you're a Republican and you vote third party, all you've done is split the vote.
It's not going to help anything.
You may have to suck it up.
At a certain point of protest vote, I'm not saying necessarily, but I like what Austin Peterson had to say on the show.
At a certain point when you are so not represented at all...
I'm not saying people should vote third party, but I think it's defensible, a protest vote at that point.
Well, here's why I would disagree with you.
Okay.
How about you show me that you wanted a protest before the vote came?
Maybe go out and do some.
Not you.
How about somebody who really wants to have a protest vote?
I'm going to vote for this third party candidate because I don't like this guy.
Why don't you get involved earlier on in the process?
It's true.
Instead of coming to the game late and saying, well, I just don't like my options.
Right.
You know, I'm going to cry about it on Twitter.
Go do something about it.
Then you can protest voting.
I'll be right there with you saying, yeah, absolutely.
You tried your hardest and nobody up there is good.
I think you're at a point, though, where they're going to be significant.
I mean, think about this right now.
The Democrats are more likely to go.
They're the ones who could go to a contested convention.
With a socialist.
Yes, yes.
Democratic Socialists!
Wait, what?
Well, you know there's got to be a lot of them too who would love Trump to be president just so they can't blame all the Hillary crap on Democrats.
Hold on real quick.
I'm just looking at Twitter.
Someone's asking if Nick DiPaolo was sleeping.
I read his tweets and his voice.
He says, I'm wide awake, jerk off!
I just love Nick DiPaolo.
He tweets exactly like it.
Yeah, the voice is great.
Hey, listen there, you little fascist, you know, I'm freaking wide awake over here.
Yeah, so I agree with you, Jill, but some people earn the right at this point if they felt like they've been really active and they've been snubbed.
This is different.
It is very different because of how personal it has been, and I don't think you can unify after this.
No.
I mean, it's going to be really hard to turn out solid Republican base on this.
You're not going to get a lot of guys who are going to vote for anybody else on the line to come out and really be excited about Trump.
I don't see it.
I mean, there's plenty of other people that are excited about him.
He could win.
I've seen the rallies.
I get it.
He could win.
He could?
Yeah, he could.
It's unlikely, but yeah, it's absolutely possible.
I reserve the right to never make a prediction again.
Well, yeah, you and Dick Morris.
I told you, I was like, Stephen, Stephen, calm down.
It's going to be fine.
A couple of months from now, we're not even going to be talking Trump.
Stephen, don't worry about it.
He won't make it to the top nine.
Oh, not the top five.
We know it's funny.
The top three, crap.
It's funny because of all the pro-Trump people.
When we have Milo on, he's saying, I don't get it.
But when you're on, I was saying, I think you're underestimating him.
Anyone who would come on with a view that even if I agree, they're going to think that I disagree with them just because I feel required to.
I hear so many softballs all the time on the radio.
People, you give a softball to Carly Fiorina.
I go, did you watch the same interview?
At that point, it was before the first debate, and I said, your tenure at HP was less than impressive.
How do you answer your critics?
Is there any more biting issue for Carly Fiorina?
Even after this week, people were joking on Twitter about how she joined the campaign just enough to lay off a bunch of people.
That's still the joke.
That's still the hit at Carly.
Right.
That's still there.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, with Senator Ted Cruz, I was like, you know, you just come across as out of touch.
Why don't you do this more?
It's the packaging.
Tweet for yourself.
We said that on air.
Tweet for yourself.
Yeah, I think you're right, Gerald, but I don't know where they go from here.
I think Donald Trump could win just because...
Here's the thing.
You hear a lot of other...
I don't listen to it often, but another conservative radio host saying, well, here we are, conservatives left without an option.
And that was the bitching segment.
And I'm going, hold on a second.
A lot of people don't care.
We are at a point where they just hear conservatism.
They go, yeah, because most of the country isn't conservative.
Our job is to convince people who are now they've taken the red pill.
The reason why you have is because these principles, constitutionalism, federalism, this is why they're important as opposed to just one guy.
So framing it as though, well, conservatives now.
No, no, no.
There are people who are willing to listen.
Trump is a step.
And I think there can be some convincing going on there.
And that's why I don't just want to boom, hashtag never Trump and shut the door on some of those people.
I agree.
I understand what you're saying.
I just think you're going to hear whatever he thinks it's going to take for him to get support.
Of course.
I don't want to be lied to.
I mean, if he's the guy he says he is, then stay that way.
Right.
Don't try to come and be this great unifier like your commercials in between the segments are talking about.
You're not going to unify us.
You meant exactly what you said.
Of course you meant that.
Otherwise, you wouldn't have said it.
Don't come back and kind of smooth it over and say, oh, we're going to make America great again together.
It's all of us together.
I understand what you're saying.
No, that's not what you ran on, so just be honest at least.
Right.
I agree with you.
It's going to be a clear war.
I want to hear his answer on the North Carolina trans issue now.
Trump's?
We know what he did before, but now with this gross violation.
And I love how all the media, the Trump media out there, just completely glossed her.
They just tried to bury that so fast.
Because they knew they couldn't switch positions.
Because they were all still pumping out trans bathroom stuff.
And then the next morning was Trump coming out and supporting North Carolina's social justice warrior law.
Okay, before we go, Gerald, what do you think about that, about the court saying, hey, North Carolina, you can't do that.
You have until Monday.
I'd say, come and get me.
Well, I think there are plenty of trainees who are willing to oblige.
Sign me up.
And there are boys and there are girls.
I was talking to a guy about, he's a super liberal.
I was talking to a buddy of mine tonight.
Ten seconds, go.
And he said, I was like, is there this problem that I wasn't aware of where all these people were being denied bathroom access?
If a girl walks into a guy's bathroom that looks like a guy, nobody's going to ask anything.
What was going on that was so bad that they had to do this?
I'm going to have some questions, but we have to go to the break.
Gerald Morgan Jr., thanks for being with us.
Stay tuned.
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Final segment.
If you're watching the video cast, that dancing got really dark.
Really dark.
It's a new dance, we call it.
It's called the Leo.
Dance of the Dead.
It's called the Leonardo DiCaprio.
For those of you who didn't listen to the podcast, and no one did, a long time ago, when we did that whole Titanic-themed podcast.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was always amazed in Titanic when she was the greatest love story ever told and she was annoyed by his frozen corpse and a life raft and just...
Tossed him out of shark bait.
I can't imagine doing that to my wife.
I can imagine doing it to you.
Yes.
I can picture that.
I can imagine doing it to you.
I don't want C. diff on my life hut.
I don't know.
I just remember thinking that there are so many things wrong with that movie or The Notebook.
It's pornography for women.
What was that movie?
The one with Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Scarlett Johansson.
Scarlett Johansson!
If she walked into your bathroom...
Scarlett Johansson slash Lordevator.
Yes.
If she walked into your bathroom and you just heard her voice in the stall next, you'd be calling your senator.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
My cuckabee, come save me.
I shouldn't have ordered the Thai food.
Oh, no.
Hey.
Oh, you're Scarlett Johansson.
Yeah, who'd you think it was?
Shia LaBeouf?
I don't know.
Ugh.
By the way, another story where we were talking about it, parents supporting this six-year-old is going into class as a transgender.
And, you know, I saw this story and it just sort of came out at me, the idea of, and I hate to do the whole common sense thing, but since when do we allow children, small children, to make permanent decisions regarding their sexuality, orientation, or gender fluidity?
Yeah, we'd all have them to pick their career to the, like, what, 17?
Yeah.
But here, decide your gender right, that's six.
Most of them can't do that right.
No.
And here we are.
The Albany thing was a hate crime.
The hate crime Albany story was a hoax.
We have that up on the website.
You have to go check that out.
They've been indicted.
So much stuff just happened this week.
Feminists were furious about attractive cheerleaders.
I don't know if you saw this.
This was another story.
They were mad that cheerleaders are attractive.
They apparently want cheerleaders to look like Trigglypuff.
There was a black racist in South Africa who bragged about making a white waitress cry.
I don't want to do this.
I'm just saying there are so many stories we wanted to get to.
We need to get this show going more than once a week at this point.
I'm going to do a video on Karl Marx.
I want to sort of talk about this here before we...
Before we release the video, something that is...
This is mainstream.
Your little brother was the one who sent me this video.
He said, hey, could you rebut this?
Because it's being shown in all my classes.
And he's like 14.
Yeah, he's 14.
He's hilarious, by the way.
One of the biggest smart alex there is.
And it's this Karl Marx video.
It has over a million plays.
And the guy is clearly in the pocket for Karl Marx.
And at one point he talks about how Karl Marx believed that profit for corporations was theft.
Theft from the worker.
And...
It's funny when you think about that.
We are at a point where that's no different from what Bernie people believe.
I'm not saying they're communists, but it's no different.
They believe that it's theft for corporations to have, I guess, sort of unfair profit margins.
So we think it's theft for corporations or a business owner to make a profit, but not actual theft.
Because what does the government do?
They step in, they say, we're taking your money.
No.
Here are men with guns.
We're taking your money.
That's actual theft.
So a business owner who's created, I don't know, the Big Mac, and the family is now a billionaire, or Walmart, where your deodorant prices went down 72%, and you shop there.
That's theft.
Taking their stuff isn't theft.
That's where we are.
That's what a lot of people believe at this point.
They believe...
This is what's so hard with a generation.
And with this election, too, you have a lot of people, obviously, on the Trump side, still just purely voting in their own self-interest, saying, well, it's not about principles now.
I'm just going to vote in my own self-interest.
And that's okay.
Protectionism.
You can only take that so far before it changes, before the kids you have and the demographics change a little bit and the next person votes in their own self-interest.
And then they mob you.
That's the order of these things.
That's where they go.
Um...
Good example.
Things that leftists really hate, right?
They really hate...
We were talking about this earlier, socialism.
Leftists hate big corporations, big banks, right?
We hate big banks.
Well, listen, so do I. I hate big banks.
But let's walk this down the logic trail.
The only reason that those big banks can continue to be big banks or monopolies is because of the people you really hate, right?
The corrupt politicians.
Karl Marx acknowledged there's corruption in any kind of a hierarchy.
So, big banks continue to be big banks because of a never-ending supply of bailout funds from big government, big politicians, whom you hate, right?
So what happens under communism or socialism?
That big government bailing out the big bank, who you hate, who you don't trust?
They now are the bank.
And they're your only bank.
It's one of those great ironies that is lost, and I think it's lost on a lot of people when it comes to the Trump side, certainly to the Bernie side.
I think that's why there's a lot of crossover.
We've looked at our analytics.
It is a stunning number at how many people who are either Trump or Bernie.
At first glance, you go, that's silly.
There's no way.
No, there is a way.
We can see people coming in.
Of course, we have all the comments and people going, I just want someone who's independent, Bernie or Trump.
People going from Ron Paul to Bernie.
At a certain point, and I understand, listen, a lot of people aren't on board with principled conservatism.
I get it.
And that's why we don't assume that you are.
But at a certain point for you, regardless of how I'm presenting it, principles have to come into play somewhat.
At some point.
Every system of government can't be subjective to the populace's any whim.
At some point you have to decide either an appropriate role of government or what it is that you believe.
If you're angry with banks, why?
If you're angry with the GOP, why?
If you're angry at Mitch McConnell, why?
If you don't want to vote Donald Trump, why?
Third party, why?
We try to answer those questions, and sometimes I'm not as clear as I wish I could be.
I hope we were on the situation with Trump tonight.
I certainly hope that we were on the Bruce Jenner, Caitlyn Jenner getting medals on Sports Illustrated, tucking front tail like Buffalo Bill.
But if you are going to get mad or vote...
You need to ask yourself, and you need to be able to answer publicly why.
Anger in itself is not enough, just like I was talking about.
Being offensive in and of itself is not enough.
There's nothing wrong with being angry.
There's nothing wrong with being offensive.
If it is a means to an end, if there is a goal, simply being angry or offensive for its sake, you're not accomplishing anything.
We'll talk to you next week.
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