#76 LET’S GAY ALL THE THINGS! Matt Mitrione, Dr. Boniface, and Chad with AIDS | Louder With Crowder
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You've found yourself at the junction where worlds meet.
Politics.
Civility?
How about honesty in this country, folks?
Entertainment.
I don't like entertainment!
And a whole bunch of other stuff.
It's about having a healthy body image.
If you have a very unhealthy body, you should have a horrible body image.
Not a big home improvement market in Detroit.
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We have a big show.
Big show tonight.
A little different from people who are just into politics.
So we have a few guests.
Professional fighter Matt Mitrione, who got into some hot water for comments about Fallon Fox, transgender male to female fighter, and has always had some strong political opinions.
But he's a funny guy, so he gets by with a lot of it.
He used to.
And then he got into some trouble.
But my guess is tonight he'll get into some trouble again after the program.
So Matt Mitrione is on.
Great guest.
Cerebral guy.
Smart guy for...
Dr.
Phyllis Boniface is back.
know about it that we wouldn't know.
Because, you know, John Hopkins, they don't perform the surgery anymore.
And I saw that posted.
We wanted to have her on.
We will also have Chad.
Chad with AIDS. Our resident token gay later on.
Great guy.
Educated us on bug chasers last time he was on.
And he's going to weigh in on the controversy this week that's been all over Captain America being gay.
Oh, yes.
That's a big thing this week.
People want Captain America to be gay.
So that's been a big controversy.
Because 2016.
Because 2016.
And we did...
Thank you.
things we might have a few surprise guests in there as well we're going to be talking about katie corrick getting caught in her gun lies the reason why this is so perfect is she's making what she claimed to be a balanced documentary on firearms and she was sitting there with matt lauer i bet you chad with aids sees matt lauer and goes that guy's a queer I just can't stand Matt Lauer.
And Al Roker was better fat.
He's one of those guys who looks better fat.
Sometimes people are like, no, you know what?
You can either look good or you can be thin.
I think that about Drew Carey.
Only because he's so unrecognizable.
So skinny and gray.
He's also trying to go hip with the midlife glasses.
Yeah, with the glasses and all that stuff.
Takes one to give.
So, we'll be talking about that.
It's so perfect because earlier in the week, I covered her first interview with Matt Lauer, where she was saying, this is really both sides of the gun control issue, this documentary.
And right away, I called BS and I dissected what she said.
And now, in the same week, we see that she actually deceptively edited...
An interview with one of the firearm owners.
Surprise.
Whenever someone says it's balanced on both sides of the issue, they're lying.
They're liberals.
Almost invariably.
We've never said, like, we're always, but we try to be honest and straightforward.
We've talked about that with Trump, with Ted Cruz.
I actually got emails this week, people who were mad that I made fun of Ted Cruz.
Oh, I've seen some of the tweets.
And this is what's so funny.
This is why I can't get on board with any movement or hashtag.
You have the Trump people who get furious with any criticism.
And then you have the Cruz people who get furious with any criticism.
Even though we lobbed the criticism out of money when he was on the program.
I got a ton of tweets today about the whole Never Trump thing.
Yeah.
People just so confused by it.
I just don't dig them.
I don't dig hashtags.
I don't know.
I don't dig hashtags.
And a lot of people in the Never Trump movement are...
There's stuff there that I don't like that I don't see.
And there's just as many Bernie and pro-Hillary people in the Never Trump hashtag as there are cruise people.
Exactly.
So why identify with them?
Well, let's talk about this.
A good example is last week when we were on the program.
I said, hey, Donald Trump's Supreme Court list actually looks pretty good, the list that he released.
I said, now, if he sticks to that list, this is important.
That will matter, but this is a good start.
The conservatives and the never-Trump go, oh, he didn't write this list, blah, blah, blah, and they just start immediately trashing him.
We said, this is a pretty good list.
Within the span of that program, Donald Trump said he was going to add to the list.
And then later in the week, he said, well, that list was only for the one spot for Scalia.
So now I go, well, that's BS. There's no sense in creating a list if you double it.
You can say you've added onto that list.
It's a whole new list.
You're not sticking with the list.
If you say, okay, this is the list of potential candidates, fine.
Oh, and we're going to double it.
We're not going to take any from the first.
It's not the same list.
Now, if we would have just said from the beginning, no, no, this is BS. We gave them credit where it's due.
And now we say, okay, then you have more credibility when there's a legitimate problem.
So we're not balanced.
We're not unbiased.
But we do actually try to be intellectually consistent.
I just hate when people, they marry themselves, these taglines, these slogans, these hashtags.
Right.
It boxes your brain and you can't think outside of that.
You can't think reasonably about a Trump SCOTUS list like we have.
And just like I don't like to identify as a Republican, I'd rather identify as a conservative because I can defend conservative values.
I'm not forced to justify or defend or apologize for every Republican out there.
Just like Christian.
I'd rather be a Christian than a Southern Baptist.
Right.
No, exactly.
I don't know.
My two cents.
No, I think you're right.
Tweet me at escrowder what you think.
But that's why, you know, listen, we were making fun of Trump before he announced his nomination based on his previous run because it's funny.
And the same thing, like Rand Paul, you know, was borderline trending as toilet brush head because of what we...
And I like Rand Paul.
We have to go after everybody.
And here's the thing.
If you complain about it or I hear from your PR reps or I hear from some people at your non-profit or your PAC, wink, wink, people who've sent me these emails...
We're coming after you more.
We have to.
It's like, sometimes we do things that are so a-hole-ish that I feel bad, but I feel like I have to do it out of a moral necessity.
The thing is, I'm a conservative, but I can't get on board with so many, because they're just such whiny little bitches.
Not conservatives, all of them, but all these movements and people online.
Like, listen, Ted Cruz needs some criticism because he lost.
He lost!
He lost!
So how can you not criticize someone who's lost?
Say, this is maybe why you lost.
And same thing with Donald Trump versus Hillary.
We're going to be focusing a lot of fire on Hillary now.
We focused on Bernie because he was a movement candidate.
We know what we're doing and we're planning it.
Back to the point with Katie Couric in the, this is really balanced.
We on the show talked about how Larry King inadvertently revealed that the media malpractice saying, you know, Fox News, but they can't select presidents.
And he went on talking about how CNN could.
Your job is not to select presidents.
So here's something that I do want to get into macro, because we're going to have a rebuttal.
We're going to get very specific on the Katie Couric issue.
We have a rebuttal for a recent feminist video.
A lot of guests, so we want to laser in here.
So let me go macro a little bit.
There are uneducated voters on both sides.
That happens.
But people who are not involved in the political process, this is just reality.
People who are not up to date on news or taking a proactive approach to current events, invariably they lean left.
In other words, the general default position for an ignorant voter is going to be that of a leftist, of a liberal.
Why?
Because of what you see with Katie Couric, and we'll prove this later on.
Oh, this is balanced.
Michael Moore said the same thing about bullying for Columbine.
And people bought it.
People bought it.
Al Gore and An Inconvenient Truth was the 10th anniversary.
Predictions that are verifiably false, people bought it.
Everything you watch, everything you listen to, films, TV, radio, unless you're tuning into Fox News or maybe some AM radio, everything that you consume as a form of media is almost invariably to the left.
And I know we have a lot of atheists, liberals, classical liberals who don't like being lumped in with this, but this is reality.
And that's why I realized I was at a table at a brewery this weekend.
And I was sitting there talking.
Liberals are so shocked when you disagree with them.
Conservatives all the time, right?
It's like swinging a weighted bat.
They're so used to it.
Right?
Because think about it.
If you're a conservative in 2016, okay?
Every time you walked into school, you were in enemy territory.
You were forced to defend your viewpoints.
Every time you turn on a sitcom or you tune on news that's not named Fox News, you're forced to defend your viewpoints.
Every time you're hearing some kind of a diatribe from the media, you're being bombarded with leftist viewpoints.
You're constantly being forced to defend it, and so they're used to it.
What you won't find is a conservative surprised when a liberal says, well, I just think people should be able to choose any gender or species now.
We'll get into that.
Puppy play.
We'll talk about that this week.
You're never going to see a conservative go, what?
But I was sitting there talking with a girl who I guess is planning a state rep.
She's working for some state representative.
Invariably left.
Little young hipster.
Nice girl.
And we were talking about the bathroom thing.
He said something like, you know, it's just these hateful people.
He said something along those lines.
One of those buzzword talking points.
And I said, quite simply, I said, well, I don't see how adults who maybe have children or wives not wanting penises in the ladies' room necessarily makes them hateful.
And she, the pearl clutching, like she was wounded, like I had said, Oakland booty, like Blake Lively.
Oh, how dare you?
She had never even thought of this.
It had never occurred to her.
She had never heard this before.
And you will see that a lot with leftists.
Now, it doesn't mean you should be ill-prepared, but it is, again, right?
These people that go to college, professors are telling them invariably to be liberal.
Every show they watch, oh, it's friendly.
It supports their viewpoint.
Every news entity they watch, oh, it's friendly.
It supports their viewpoint.
And so they've never been forced to defend it.
Just that sent her for a loop, and she walked off offended.
It doesn't necessarily make someone hateful that they think sex might be biological.
Now, for anyone watching this program, would you be surprised if a social justice leftist came in and said, gender's non-binary?
No, because you've heard it your whole life.
In college, you've watched these videos for a long time.
You know exactly what they're going to say, and you're prepared for it.
Leftists, again, the default position, if you're not involved, is you're going to lean to the left, And a lot of these people are just stunned that someone doesn't agree with us.
Why do you think Patricia Heaton was trending when she made some pro-life comments?
Very nice comments.
Not nice comments.
People make these pro-abortion comments all day long.
It's not shocking.
That's why it doesn't trend.
Just the signs at abortion rallies are worse.
You know, just the signs.
They mock it.
Whether you're pro-life or pro-abortion, the point is they are so surprised.
And, of course, they want to destroy all the institutions, whether it's marriage, whether it's the idea of gender, whether it's long-established film franchises, so they can rebuild the reality, the leftist social justice reality, where gender is merely a social construct.
There are no men and women, and everyone can steal from people because no one's earned their wealth.
They want to destroy reality so they can create theirs.
And guess what?
They're losing.
Keep the fight up.
We'll talk to you after the break.
Greetings, America.
Hopper here.
I want to speak, of course, of what has been the centerpiece of my campaign.
One that has resonated with Americans who are tired and sick of being downtrodden and told that their opinions are invalid or that our inaction has been effective.
I'm speaking, of course, of big squirrels.
For too long, big squirrels have been pulling the strings with this government, receiving kickbacks and handouts, while the rest of us ironically forage for our own survival.
I say ironically because squirrels are meant to be foragers.
They have not only run roughshod over your economy, over your houses, but your public parks, your trees, and even this week, I saw a squirrel run off with somebody's cheeses.
Enough!
Under a Hopper presidency, these scoundrels will be brought to justice, and they will be forced to kneel before us all.
The time has come.
We will not bend.
We will not yield.
And we will not negotiate with big squirrels any longer.
Tweet your support with hashtag FeelTheHopper.
FeelTheHopper.
And we're glad to be back.
Gosh, we have so much to get into this week.
Someone corrected me on Twitter.
They are called Otherkin, the puppy play.
Otherkin.
And was it Zach?
I'm glad they have a label.
Zach Ford?
This is on Twitter.
We'll talk about this later with Chad with AIDS, where puppy play is a big thing.
And this guy who writes it, I think, Think Progress.
I don't have the name right in front of me.
I'll bring it up after Matt Mitrione talked about how he was proud that puppy play is a part of the gay community.
This guy is not some fringe activist.
This is mainstream LGBTQAIP movement.
Puppy play, for those who don't know, has grown men who dress like dogs.
And I mean that in the loosest sense of the word.
It is strictly leather and bondage.
And then have sex, like dogs.
Now, I know, should this be illegal?
No.
Am I trying to tell you what to do in your bedroom?
No.
But it's weird.
Okay?
It's weird.
And we're at the point where that's hate speech.
It's weird.
It's considered hateful for me to say...
You're sick!
That's a sick thing to do!
You're gonna dress up like a dog and have intercourse.
Or whatever it is that you do.
Whatever it is that you call that.
That is really bizarre.
Tweet me at escrowder.
Maybe you think I'm wrong.
Maybe you think I'm close-minded.
I don't know.
But we'll have some people coming on and talking about it.
The point is, this is mainstream.
Where do you find experts on this kind of thing?
How do you Google that?
Chad with AIDS. He's gay.
They all know each other.
Things are coming together.
So Katie Couric.
Oh, we don't have the video clips ready, do we?
That's okay.
We'll bring them up later.
So Katie Couric, I'll talk about the first part, and then later we'll play the second part in the show with the actual original interview.
So she was on with Matt Lauer, and she was talking about how she presents both sides of the gun debate.
You know what I can actually probably do?
We can probably just cheat this.
I can play it on my computer and put it onto the microphone, which is an incredibly hack thing to do.
You can plug it in right there.
I don't want to plug it in right there.
Let me read the transcript for you.
So she's talking about how balance is.
This was earlier in the week, and this matters because...
Oh, no.
You know what?
No.
We'll talk about this.
I forgot about this.
The Facebook call.
I completely forgot about this.
The Facebook phone call.
Let me tell you folks about this listing right now.
This is real.
It's exclusive.
We have talked about Facebook, and I'm getting a little bit peeved off with all the conservatives who are just dealing in social media drama.
Zuckerberg and people at Facebook with their press releases will talk about any Tom, Dick, and Harry not named Steven Crowder.
And that is out of fear of legal ramifications at this point.
There is one person who has actually taken a step in filing a legal motion.
If people are out there and this kind of thing has happened with them, don't just take the social media and say that maybe you didn't get a post removed and you're upset and you're trying to get some clicks.
Do something about it.
And we have a billing issue that has not been remedied.
That's what it's about.
So we have filed a legal petition for information.
I've cleared all this with my lawyer.
We'll be playing a clip right here in a second.
Now, the reason for the legal petition of information is because the billing issue was not fixed.
And to give you some updates, not only were we pointed to in Facebook's, you know, this article that they specifically targeted conservative voices to silence, Facebook swore up and down they don't do it.
I defend the right to do it, but they swore up and down they didn't.
Turns out they do.
Because then the guidelines were released as to how to curate trending news.
So they do.
They can do it.
I just would rather they don't lie about it.
Okay?
Particularly to paying partners.
Then they released, because I guess the Senate did a probe, and they released and they specifically talked about, I was the only person they admitted to effectively manipulating.
They said there was something in 2015 about a Muslim bakery, and it was put in for trending, but we decided the feed wasn't quite there yet, and due to our internal investigation, we didn't see any reason for bias.
Right, we'll take your word for it.
No, we're not.
We're not taking your word for it.
There's too much information right now.
The billing issue hasn't been fixed.
We're not suing Facebook, but we need information.
There's too much out there now, and they've said they don't censor, or censor, they don't edit, they don't do that, and then now they kind of do, but they say the internal investigation reveals are no bias, and then since then they've said it could have been some rogue employees.
Well, guess what?
That's not good enough.
So I want to play for you a reason.
So we've had the billing issue.
This is not related to the billing issue, but behind the scenes we've worked with Facebook for a long time, and we were getting posts removed.
And we weren't able to find out why.
Some of them would get removed.
We'd file complaints.
They'd go back up.
Now, like I've talked about, we don't have the tens of millions of the big sites like Breitbart or The Blaze to run an advertising.
We keep some very low-grade advertising going because we want to get all this content to you for free.
And Facebook started throttling posts.
You no longer reach your own fans.
So we've kept some very low-rent advertising as a small company.
What are you doing?
Small company that we are.
Posts were being removed.
We were trying to get to the bottom of it.
This is one of the highest supervisors, self-proclaimed, at Facebook, answering my questions.
We finally got them on the phone saying, we just want to find out what's going on here.
So this is exactly why a legal petition for information is required.
Tell me if you can maybe understand why.
Jared, let's play that clip.
So I've read through the correspondence.
I've worked with KDN. At this point, Stephen, do you have a platform to speak with me on this?
Just go ahead and let me know.
I mean, what's going on?
What can I do to try and help?
Sure.
Well, a couple things.
You know, Emily was someone who I was told was going to be my point person, so the only reason I reached it back out to me is because she said we're looking into it and wasn't able to provide any answers.
So the first answer I need is, I mean, there are a few conversations that kind of took place, was which post was it and which policy was it violating?
Because no one's given me that answer, so that's my first question.
I don't know.
There you go.
So if you picture this in any other business relationship, where someone says, well, you violated a policy, you violated a contract, you say, well, listen, we want to work with you.
We want to know, what did we do, and which policy did it violate?
Give me your top guy to talk to you about it.
Yes.
The highest ranking dude.
Not gay.
Jared knows.
We were trying to work with them, saying, like, listen, we're not going to curtail our speech, but maybe some things we won't put on Facebook.
We'll put them on the site.
We'll put them on Twitter.
But we don't want to violate Facebook's guidelines.
So what is it?
Because it seems remarkably inconsistent.
We don't know.
We've never gotten any of those answers.
Now, that changes when Facebook, again, they have the right to do it.
They've sworn up and down that they don't censor.
They have the right to.
But, when there are billing issues and you're accepting payments, I don't think that's good enough.
You tell me what you think.
You tweet me at S. Crowder.
And one thing, I'm a little disappointed.
We have Eric Erickson out there that was talking about people.
I don't think he was talking about me.
But some of these people who went to the Facebook meeting said, you know, conservatives shouldn't be shaking down Facebook.
We're not shaking anyone down.
We're not trying to get any money.
We're trying to get information.
I am a little bit disappointed with people who went to the Facebook meeting and came out all of a sudden.
Everything was fine.
Well, we know.
And we're going to be releasing this stuff like a drip.
Believe me, you haven't seen or heard anything yet.
We want the information.
That's where we are.
And hopefully it'll develop.
We have to get to the Katie Couric thing.
Well, the good thing is now we'll have all the videos to talk about it.
And a big feminist rebuttal that we'll have in real time.
So you can rebut along with me.
Just follow the ugly pansexual lesbian.
Little bouncing lesbian.
They don't bounce very high.
That's how you rebut with me.
But you can kind of follow along with them.
Yes, exactly.
And Matt Mitrione coming up next, right?
Is this what he's coming up?
Yeah, he is.
He's coming up next.
Professional fighter.
Professional talker.
Guy gets into some hot water.
Anything could happen.
You want to stay tuned.
Tune, Lotto with Crowder.
And now, for an exclusive look at Captain America, Gay Director's Cut.
Don't you know when to give up?
I could do this all day.
What, you mean all the gay sex?
Yeah, that's why I made lots of gay sex.
Stay tuned to Louder with Crowder for more exclusive looks All right, serious times serious times Serious time.
We want to respect our next guest.
I've actually been a fan of him.
Well, I'm supposed to say admirer.
That's more professional.
Admire of his for a long time.
Top-ranked heavyweight fighter in the world.
Formerly fought in the UFC. There was some drama.
Now he fights at Bellator.
Coming up a fight in June.
You can follow him on Twitter at Matt Mitrione.
Matt, what is that date that you're letting the fisticuffs fly?
That is June 24th, my man.
And St.
Louis on Bellator.
Bellator Dynamite 2.
Unfortunately, you have to go to St.
Louis.
You know what?
They've got good barbecue.
Yeah, I guess they have good barbecue and not much else.
St.
Louis is, I mean, I was born in Detroit, so that's a city that's been amidst its death throes for a while.
You think that statement is one of the statements against St.
Louis?
Yes, it is.
Well, Detroit is bad.
I remember Not Gay Jared, he's from Cleveland, and when I first took him on the ride along from Detroit, he said, I'm offended.
Scarring.
He said, I'm offended that you would even compare the two.
Nothing comes close.
So St.
Louis, so you're fighting in St.
Louis.
Now you're out there on Bellator, which is doing really pretty well.
Everything going well with training camp?
Yeah, everything.
You know, the funny part is that I'm older now.
I'm 37 years old.
So as far as training camp goes, I can't really get myself too far out of shape because it'll take too long to get back into shape.
Right.
So I fight in about, I think, five weeks, maybe five and a half weeks, and I feel fantastic.
I'm ready to scrap yesterday.
So I just kind of have to maintain that and ride the wave all the way through.
Well, you know, it's fun.
So you also, you were in the NFL before the UFC. So it was a career transition and not just a guy that you actually played.
You were in the NFL. You know, a lot of these people, they were either alternates or they didn't make the cut.
I was an actor for the Giants and the Vikings.
Yes, exactly.
So he, well, yeah, you don't really follow football.
You follow basketball.
I follow football.
You're into the sport where guys get slapped on the wrist and they flail.
It happens from time to time.
It's a problem.
So I played football, transitioned to the UFC. So, you know, and your nickname is Meathead, which is funny because...
Even though I know you're a smartass, everyone knows that, I've always thought of you as more cerebral than quite a few fighters.
I became a fan of yours when I watched The Ultimate Fighter season, and you were talking about some kind of a fight, and when everyone else was trying to act hyper-analytical, you said, he just went Ralphie on the guy.
Referencing a Christmas story.
And sometimes that cuts through the fog, and I thought, okay, here's a guy who knows what he's talking about, not afraid to throw in a reference.
And you've also spoken out, you've talked about culture, you've gotten into some hot water before, I don't know what we can or cannot bring up.
Have you just always been outspoken and more opinionated than fighters, or just willing to go against the stream?
I think I've always been rather outspoken, but I come from good thinking stock.
My father's a psychiatrist, my mother has two master's degrees, and I'm proud to be an intellectual of some form or fashion.
So if somebody asks my opinion on something, I give it, and I give it as honestly as I can.
And I think as a byproduct of that, sometimes I step on some toes, and my filter doesn't work too terribly well, so I'm kind of a walking soundbite.
That's why.
You were putting me on the couch before we got on air when he was like, well, why did you feel guilty about this?
He was asking me these questions.
I was like, this is odd for a fighter to be asking me these questions.
What does your conscience tell you?
For show prep?
Okay, I see what's going on.
Tell me about your mother.
Yes, tell me about your mother.
No, let's not get into the Freud situation.
So, okay.
So one example, right, and you can tell me what you want to discuss.
You got into some hot water talking about Fallon Fox.
And I talk about this because I've written about Fallon Fox quite a bit.
For those who don't know, this is a hot-button issue right now.
Fallon Fox lived as a man his entire life, and then for a couple years decided he was going to become a woman, now beats up women for a living.
My argument on this issue was, listen, you look at Cyborg, who's a female fighter who was stripped of her belt at one point because they found out she had tested positive for steroids.
Fallon Fox has been on steroids his whole life.
They're called balls.
So my situation is, I wrote about it, and amazingly, most people agreed.
Even most of the biggest pro-LGBTQ, AAIP, actual proposed acronym now, said, yeah, fighting is a little bit too much.
You got in some hot water.
Now...
LGBTQ, and the Q can be queer questioning...
A is for allies, asexual, intersex, and some people want to add pansexual.
And what's funny is if I bring this up, people will get mad at me and say, no, no, no, you're exaggerating.
But then if I bring up LGBTQ to the people who actually use it, they get mad that I'm not including it.
There's no way to win.
Wow, that's interesting.
Pansexual just means anything.
That just means you're, you know, it's not just whether you're gay or straight.
It's gender.
You could also be a male or female on any given day.
You could be a lesbian on one day, or you could be a straight female, or you could be a gay dude, or you could be a straight dude on any given day.
And if anyone questions you, they're racist.
Look at him.
He doesn't look caught up with this at all.
I thought he was an intellectual.
Apparently, he's not a freak thinker.
Yeah, I just got put in my place quickly.
That's so much the process.
My wheels are turning right now.
Well, that's what Miley Cyrus claims.
Pansexual.
So the Fallon Fox thing happened, and you didn't apologize for your sentiment.
You apologized for the verbiage, if I'm not mistaken.
That is accurate.
Now, you've been outspoken about some things that you didn't like about the UFC. Now that you've left and moved on, do you think you'll be more outspoken?
Was some of that coming from the top more PC? Because I've had to deal with that in corporate environments before.
No, I don't think...
I don't be...
I don't...
I don't handle stifling well.
So everything that I said was whatever I said.
And I never really got messages from the UFC like, hey, don't really say this or don't really say that.
It was more like, hey, you just said this and that's how we're going to have to deal with it kind of a thing.
But I would say that for the most part, I couldn't really be more vocal than I am.
Like I said, Bellator says, hey, look, man, be yourself, be who you want to be.
But if there's repercussion, you're going to have to deal with it.
And that's how it is.
So I'm very comfortable with that.
You have the right to say whatever you want.
You don't have the right to be paid to say whatever you want.
People can fire you.
That's reality.
And I understand that.
But we were talking about this, you know, what you said at that time, people were out with their pitchforks.
There's a lot of backlash now.
And especially with the Fallon Fox thing, you've heard, you know, Rogan talking about it, and a lot of people are going, okay, at what point do we say, I mean, this is a guy beating up women.
And you know, when we talked about, you know, Fallon Fox is a good example.
You're a fighter.
I'm relatively skilled for a hobbyist.
I've trained for years.
This is not a skilled athlete.
It looks very much like a man beating up a woman.
And that was a visceral reaction for everybody.
But you got flack because you reacted publicly.
Did you feel it was just one of those things where it was just people looking to be offended?
Well, I feel like it was...
You know, that's really tricky because I understand that in this day and age, you just can't use certain words.
There are certain things you can't say because it's going to step on toes.
But I feel like my content and my message was very legitimate and very accurate.
And I disapproved of it, and I disapproved of the secrecy in which it was done, and I disapproved of...
That's right, because it wasn't disclosed to some opponents.
Yes.
It wasn't this close at all.
So the heinous ass whoopings and beatings that these people got, that these women got, at the hands of this person, that they had no clue what was going on.
They had no clue of the truth.
And it was said that it wasn't medically relevant that she used to be a dude.
It blew my mind.
And that's why I spoke out on it.
And then, granted, if I say what I say and I get in trouble for it, cool, then I'll get in trouble for that.
But I won't apologize for the content because I really believe my content was accurate and as far as I go.
But what's interesting is because you were talking about The support.
I'm Italian, so I talk with my hands, so please don't think I'm too ghetto.
It's okay.
Not Gay Jared's Italian, but he says he's...
Like Olive Garden Italian?
Yeah, he's not real.
Olive Garden Italian.
But I got...
An incredible amount of support.
And actually at the time, I was in a fight with an ex-girlfriend of mine, so I took down my Twitter because I was just frustrated with the world.
But had I not taken down my Twitter, I'm sure I'd have probably 200,000 followers because I got so much incredible response out of that.
And probably like 97% was really positive.
A little bit was negative.
Call me as much negativity as possible.
But the support that I got, probably out of that 97%, probably 5% of that was like...
The most hatred-filled, negative, horrible human beings that are like, you know, yeah, hate them and these kind of people and these kind of people and they all deserve to die in a heart.
Right, and you're like, no, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
But that's a small percentage.
Yeah, like, how do you have that much hate to write me about something and include me in this bit?
That's like, remember Michael Douglas in Falling Down?
Did you ever see Falling Down?
Yes.
Remember then the guy who owns the gun shop and he finds out he's like this Nazi and he's like, you're just like me, I'm nothing like you.
Like, nothing like you.
I felt like that.
Exactly like that.
Yeah, that's a great film, by the way.
Not Gay Jared hasn't seen it.
That's where he just goes on a full rampage because a Coke cost 85 cents.
All I wanted was a Coke.
That's all I wanted.
Make my breakfast like the picture.
It's a great film.
You just have to watch it.
It's the only good film Joel Schumacher made.
Everything else is rubber nipples and gayness.
Oh, Lord.
That's bad.
But, you know, listen.
You're a fighter.
You punch people for a living.
And you're a good guy.
I don't understand why political correctness permeates...
Every aspect of entertainment, including sports.
I mean, you have it right now in the NFL with the Redskins.
Hey, that's a good question.
When you were in the NFL, was the Redskins thing, was that a big issue?
Were people like, oh, we shouldn't be talking about this?
Or does it just seem as recent as it seems to everybody else?
Including, by the way, Native Americans.
Nine out of ten when they were polled said, we don't care.
Yeah, you know, when I played in the NFL, my rookie year was 2002.
And I think my final year was 2005.
I got brought back in 2008.
Um...
Oh, wait, yeah.
And anyways, there was no kind of conversation about that at all.
Nobody really talked about it.
You'd hear it every once in a while on the outskirts about some personality saying something, but it was never really a conversational piece.
But now it's definitely grown legs.
And as far as being in the sporting world, MMA is kind of interesting because it's a fringe sport, and it still kind of teeters on the line of A, entertainment, and B, sport.
So it really kind of encompasses legitimate activity versus entertainment like the WWE.
Who could do so many activities?
Like knitting, crocheting.
Exactly.
It's funny that you mention that.
When I was getting married, I was actually in a bunk with a guy who played at Notre Dame.
He was exactly your size.
And every time he moved and the bed just bowed, I had a nightmare of that scene from Step Brothers with it falling down on me.
Yeah, it is where entertainment and sports meet.
But just even across the whole sporting world, I am amazed that athletes who are paid to be good athletes are now expected to be beholden to a social justice lexicon or politically correct handbook that changes day to day.
I mean, we work in news and politics, and we can't really stay on top of it.
It's damn near impossible to be an athlete, focus on your life, be as self-centered and be the center of your own universe, and then have a much wider, encompassing view, perspective on so many other things.
Because we have to be narcissistic to a certain point to handle what we have to handle and take care of ourselves and handle our team to make sure our team is healthy enough to help us get ready and blah, blah, blah.
Right?
Right.
So, out of all that, it is quite a stretch to do that because most of the time, our free time isn't filled, chilling, surfing the internet.
It's sleeping or recovering or getting your necessary calorie in or trying to set up your training regimen they get to drive two hours to get to or whatever it is.
Right.
But also, I see your perspective that, dude, we're fighters.
Do you really expect a fighter to be some type of way as far as on top of the game when it comes down to political correctness or whatever else?
Are you really going to get that butthurt or that upset about some fighter that has an opinion that's not necessarily concurrent with modern day thoughts?
But, I will say this in defense of that, that most of us, I'm not sure about Bellator, but I know in the UFC, have some form of college, and I believe a good percentage of us have college degrees.
So, since we have our college degrees, I think that we're much more...
Brazilian's not included, but yes.
For sure, definitely not.
It's absolutely true.
People don't like to hear that, but it's true.
It's not the same culture there in Brazil.
I think they call it elementary school college in Brazil.
And they all show up two hours late.
For sure.
But they have great-looking pajamas on.
Great-looking pajamas.
So I think a lot of us are much more hip than what I think the public would expect us to be.
But I think in that same aspect, man, I'm not giving myself a Neanderthal card, but I do punch people in the face for a living.
I'm not rewriting the Gettysburg Address or the preamble, you know?
Yes.
Well, thank God.
I think you're a bright guy, but I wouldn't want the foundation of our country in your hands, with all due respect.
I wouldn't want it in my hands.
I can fight for our country's freedom.
I can do that for sure.
You can do that.
And you do it in the cage, I guess, in a way.
But, yeah, it's one of those things...
I did lose to a French guy, though.
That's some bullshit.
I'm really upset about that.
Oh, Chick Congo?
Yeah, but he's at Bellator now, I think.
So maybe I can get that one back.
Maybe you can get that one back.
I forgot that...
Oh, yes, I did for...
You know, I'm not going to lie.
I was disappointed watching that.
So was I, dude.
I was disappointed.
I was like, man, Matt, your ground game wasn't quite there because I'm a ground guy.
And I know you're a professional fighter.
I'm going to tell you this much, dude.
I've been submitted twice.
One time I gave a thumbs up and went to sleep and I should have defended it and I didn't.
And another time I got caught by Ben, but Ben also caught Josh Barnett.
A great friend of mine.
In that same choke.
So that gives me a little bit of validity on that one that I was pretty excited.
Oh yeah, no absolutely.
But I was just disappointed because I didn't like Czech.
But I did fight Czech Congo with a sports hernia and I didn't have it diagnosed and that hurt really bad.
Yeah, I can imagine that hurts really bad.
That's my primary excuse.
Yeah, we're not supposed to have them, but people always do have them at the ready, unless you're Georges St-Pierre.
And then you're like, well, that's the champion look inside of himself.
I'm going to fix about it.
Have you ever met him?
He's cool as a fan, dude.
I've heard he's just a great guy all around.
All around.
And we had Chael on the show, and he said, I have never seen an athlete like that in my life, and I know many Olympic medalists.
And I thought that was a really pretty serious statement.
And because everyone else I know, the Brazilians I know who've worked or coached him, said he wasn't naturally very good.
Like, he doesn't just pick up something right away.
He just will drill, drill, drill, drill, drill.
But you get different stories from different people.
But yeah, I like the guy.
I think he's a class act.
And funny, he's from Quebec.
And he's all honorable and that he's going to pay his taxes there.
But him and Firas, like, this is the thing with socialists from Canada.
They have openly said that socialized health care is horrible and they've come to the States to get the best care.
But they don't really make the connection that it's still a problem with socialism.
And George St.
Pierre could never be afforded the opportunities he's had here in the United States under a socialist system.
And they just don't quite make that connection.
Dude, I'm horrified as to where things are going to go.
I'm not a big Trump guy.
I'm definitely not a Bernie guy.
And I don't understand how America can even have the conversation of a candidate running who's under federal investigation for all kinds of crimes.
I just don't understand that.
And I'm horrified as to where our future as a country is going if people actually think these are viable commodities.
I'm just Yeah, I know.
Well, listen, we have to go to a break.
We'll bring you back when we talk more about that.
Look at how sad his baby blues get when he's talking about that.
He looks like Bambi's mom.
He does.
We'll come back.
Matt Mitrione, at Matt Mitrione.
We'll talk a little bit of politics with the guy who has the big fist.
I mean, big hands.
Let's just, let's move on.
No more gay stuff.
Ladder with Crowder.
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For breaking news on Router with Crowder, I'm Perry Matheson.
We now update you on an exclusive story regarding presidential candidate Hopper's tumultuous campaign.
It now seems Hopper finds himself at the center of sexual misconduct charges for exposing himself in a public park.
Sheldon Acornsson of Squirrel Citicals was interviewed earlier today for a comment.
Well, you know, listen, we don't know exactly what has happened here, but I will say that I think the American public is very disappointed in this kind of behavior from a politician.
Is Hopper the kind of man who you can trust at the till of the ship when he's doing these kinds of things in parks?
And what's he doing in parks?
We don't know!
I'm not accusing anything yet, but I think you should release the records.
Swift in response was Hopper holding his own press conference.
Greetings America.
These attacks are entirely false, libelous, slanderous, and entirely expected from Big Squirrel, who are engaging in politics as usual, which is what Americans are so disappointed with.
We will fight, and we will not negotiate, and I will be vindicated from these latest attacks from Big Squirrel.
We'll keep you abreast as the story unfolds.
For Louder with Crowder, I'm Harry Matheson.
You're a strange animal, that's what I know.
But you're a strange animal, I've got to follow.
Oh, I'm in the spirit of sound.
Glad to be back with our guest, fighting in June in Bellator.
You can watch him.
Big dude.
Intimidating dude.
But a nice guy.
I hope.
Hopefully we haven't angered him.
At Matt Mitrione.
And unlike not Kate Jarrett, he's not Olive Garden Italian.
Before the break, you were talking about this.
You know, I was a little...
I was going, where is he going with this?
Because he said, I'm not a Trump guy.
Neither am I. And then he said, I'm not a Bernie guy.
And I thought, well, hold on a second.
He didn't mention Hillary Clinton.
But then he brought it to the crescendo.
Thank you, Matt.
No.
Music to the ears of logical.
Yes, music that, well, we get so much flack on the Bernie stuff.
I mean, if you cut the military by 100% and you tax all earnings over a million at 100%, you still would not cover his plans.
Did you hear that, you know, Burlington College, where his wife was the, uh...
Bankrupted it.
Yeah, yeah.
So when he says free college, I want you to think of Burlington College.
I mean...
It's time and time again.
It's absolutely undeniable.
Will you vote then?
Will you pull the lever begrudgingly or you're not sure yet?
You know, honestly, man, I don't know.
I can't make up my mind yet.
And it's hard to say that, dude, because I don't want to be a guy who doesn't vote because I have an opinion on stuff, so I should vote, right?
But I feel that I really wish that Rand Paul was...
I wish he was more charismatic.
I wish that he could enlighten the masses He's so bitchy.
That's his problem.
He just comes across like, oh, well, my other candidates, but not me.
You know what?
Bring him into a gym for a year, and everybody in the world will love that dude because they'll learn a personality that is approachable.
Yes.
You know, I say that and people think I'm just talking out of my rear.
Men need to get their ass kicked.
What it is, is you can't be delusional.
You cannot have an unhealthy ego if you train in a combat sport.
You don't have to be in the cage and fight.
You don't have to be wrestling collegiately.
But whether it's judo, whether it's boxing, it can't be Krav Maga or any of that silliness.
It has to be an actual combat sport.
Yeah, where you're actually competing against somebody else.
You know why?
Because I've talked to people who are friends who legitimately think they can beat UFC fighters.
I had a friend with him and was like, oh man, I could just beat Michael Bisping.
I'm like, no, you can't.
And because they've never done it, they can lie to themselves.
And yeah, I think it's really important for men to do that because they have to be more honest with themselves and that is reflected.
People see that.
So I have very strong sentiments on this for a reason being is that I feel very proud that I carry the banner for my sport very well, right?
And we went to, so we call, like, most Jiu-Jitsu guys, like yourself here, we call you guys Jiu-Jitsu nerds, right?
Because, like, pajamas, gi Jiu-Jitsu is the end-all, be-all, and they love it.
And most Jiu-Jitsu guys won't do MMA because they feel it's probably beneath them because it's not necessarily the sport or the art or whatever else, right?
No, I train in both, but some of them, yeah.
That's more of the Brazilian mindset, but yes.
I agree.
And the guys that are kind of brainwashed into traditional Jiu-Jitsu, which is the Brazilian aspect, right?
Especially Gi Jiu-Jitsu.
So anyways, the first day I go to this one place, we call it the Nerd Factory.
So first time we go to this one place...
Hey, their words are for fight!
You're going to get some people angry.
We have a lot of Brazilian fans.
So one of these dudes was there.
I was getting introduced to everybody around the way.
And a guy was sitting next to me.
And this is old boy.
And old boy wants to fight in the UFC. And then old boy heard it.
And he actually interrupted him and said, excuse me, I will fight in the UFC. And I was like, oh, well, right on.
Where we train at is normally over here.
And he's a heavyweight.
He's a big dude.
He was a strength coach.
Big, big dude.
Can lift 1,000 pounds.
Yeah.
Doesn't look like he takes steroids.
He's a normal, natural guy.
And he's like, excuse me, like interrupted him, was offended that he said wants to and did not say he will.
And then so we started training with that dude.
And this week, I think, I think it was actually last Wednesday, a week ago today.
Like, you know, we're sparring and we're doing some stand-up work, and I'm like, hey, dude, and we're whooping his ass.
I'm like, hey, guy, like, don't you dare take low kicks and blah, blah, blah, and collapse and fall down and sit out rounds when everybody else is working, and you're trying to tell me that you're going to do what I do?
Like, what I do is that easy?
Right.
Like, don't disrespect my career by your ego saying that you're going to be able to do what I do and then come in here and then fail miserably at it but still maintain to the public that you're going to do what I do.
Like, I find that highly offensive.
Well, and that's the delusion.
People can lie to themselves, right?
People can just convince themselves, and if they don't have to do it, and that's why karate and taekwondo, and specifically like Krav Maga and these fighting systems where it's like, Target training, man!
I would smash your nose!
Yeah, but you've never actually done it.
Now, even though, like you said, jiu-jitsu nerds, I mean, I've done, I started with judo, and, you know, my dad is actually, like, was, you know, competes, hasn't lost a match, let alone a round in jiu-jitsu.
At purple belt, he's 55, and he goes in 40 and over open weight.
Trains with Guy Mezger.
So, over there in Dallas.
So, you know, there's some cross-training, and we agree that a lot of jiu-jitsu has become very sport-specific, and people are getting bored now when they hear it, but it's not very useful.
It's on the way to becoming an American taekwondo.
Yes, exactly.
Absolutely.
With inverted stuff, and it doesn't really work.
That being said, it still does allow someone, like my dad is 55, to actually compete, unlike just the theoretical martial arts.
So there is value there.
And listen...
I also feel like there's no better self-defense for women than jiu-jitsu.
I know where you're going, and you're going to imply that we're gay because of the guard.
No, no, not at all, whatsoever.
I'm going to apply, like, if a man wants a woman on the ground, she's going to end up on the ground.
There's nothing she can do about it.
Well, the Gracies teach that in Torrance, and they teach the psychology of that very effectively.
Well, it's accurate.
It's highly accurate.
And, like, I've got an ex-wife.
Any girlfriend I ever have again in my life, or my daughter, they're all going to do jiu-jitsu.
Because it's the safest way for a woman to be able to manipulate a man in any situation where she's the victim, and she can handle herself very efficiently.
Unless the Indian sunburn is a wiener.
I read a story about that once, and I think that would be effective.
Like a meagy burn?
No, no, no.
The Indian sunburn is where you...
It's like ringing.
Would you ever...
This is visual.
People are listening to Rush.
They're like, what are they talking about?
Let's send a formal complaint to the FCC. Would you let your daughter fight Fallon Fox?
No.
Never.
I just wanted to throw...
I wanted to see if you were paying attention, Mr.
Mitrione.
I don't think what...
If anybody fights Fallon Fox now, Fallon Fox's history is wide out in the open.
So if a woman fights Fallon Fox, they chose that knowingly, and if they get their ass beat, then they say, hey, that's on you.
But now at least it's disclosed and it's out in the open.
It's just going to be a bunch of tolerant progressives who want to prove a point and get their ass kicked.
And just get smoked.
I am open-minded.
Oh, I was wrong!
I was wrong!
I don't want to do this.
I don't want to do it.
I don't want to do this!
You know, I remember the first time I had a fight.
It was in Indianapolis.
It was right before I went on an ultimate fighter.
And I remember seeing somebody, and I couldn't understand it, at the same place about two or three fights before, actually tap on the cage when they closed the door.
As soon as the fight said, go, he tapped on the cage and said, I'm done.
I don't want to be in it.
Yeah.
I didn't understand that at the time, but it's a real come-to-Jesus moment.
Like, you questioned so much about yourself and your life right before that.
Like, this decision.
Like, what the hell am I doing?
Why am I here?
I had that in my first judo tournament.
Because judo's a pretty high level in Montreal.
They have an Olympian there, Nicholas Gill.
And so you get a lot...
It'd be like a wrestling tournament.
And a guy who claimed he fought MMA before went in and snapped his arm.
And then everyone else was going, oh my god.
And I had a guy getting...
Wait, the guy who claimed it snapped his own arm?
In judo.
Yeah, he fell and didn't know how to fall and snapped his arm.
And then we were up next and the guy was going against.
There was an accidental headbutt.
And he freaked out.
And he tapped and he left.
Oh gosh, we have to get going here, not gay Jared.
Well listen, maybe we can do some web extended here with Matt Mitrione for people listening to wrestling.
Where's the best place for people to find you before we leave you?
At Matt Mitrione, M-I-T-R-I-O-N-E, Twitter or Instagram.
Italians or Polish, they always have to spell out their name for our listeners, not gay, Jared.
They do.
They do.
It's unfortunate.
It's a form of discrimination that's not addressed so much because they're still in the queue behind chicks with wieners.
So, people like Matt Matreon don't get his due.
That's a privilege that other people have that they don't talk about.
Not talked about.
It's upsetting.
I'm amazed that you're so cool about this.
Alright, Matt.
We will talk here afterward and we'll say all the things we can't say on air.
A lot of with Crowder.
Stay tuned, everybody.
All right, all right. all right.
The double secret patriarchy meeting is now in session.
First item of business.
It is very important that we make sure women don't catch on to the fact that marriage is nothing more than glorified rape.
So please keep that under your hats, shall you?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Alright.
On to item number two.
We need unified standards on what will be determined as the most recent oppressive standards of beauty that we don't even like.
Anybody have suggestions?
Yeah, me.
Yes, Bradley.
Yeah, I was just thinking maybe we could tell women or the people who do the magazines that we like bigger breasts and nice bodies.
Even though we don't like any of those things.
Brilliant, Bradley.
That will really screw with their heads.
Anyone else?
Yeah, over here.
Yes, Phil Cool.
Yeah, I was thinking, like, maybe we tell people that we like women more, you know, who are more nurturing and good around the house.
Ha!
Even though clearly men are not attracted to any of those qualities in the opposite sex.
Good thinking, Phil.
We'll be sure to maintain our death grip on oppression.
Okay, one more.
Yes, you in the back there, Perry.
How about we put out the notion that we like our women To look like women.
Oh, that's glorious.
Even though men clearly like women who look like androgynous little boys, we'll tell them that we prefer them looking feminine.
Oh, that'll be sure to get their goat and grind their gears.
Well, I think we have a lot to work with this week.
Refreshments are in the back, but keep it to a two-per-person maximum.
Double-secret patriarchy meeting is adjourned.
See you next Tuesday.
Glad to be back.
Come on.
No cough button.
Don't talk!
I haven't introduced you.
No cough button.
Not Gay Jared, that's enough.
What?
What did you want?
Oh, I was just going to say, we get so many requests on who is that artist.
Oh, that artist is Pogo.
Pogo.
In the second hour, that artist is Pogo.
Yep.
Wishery by Pogo.
Wishery by Pogo.
And we have another one that is Bangarang?
Bangarang by Pogo.
People like the music.
We use a lot of independent artists here.
By the way, if you're a band, if you're an artist listening, and you think that your stuff works with the show, you can always send them.
We'll be glad to give you credit.
No money, though.
We don't believe in it.
We don't believe in it.
Bitcoins we got.
Bitcoins and gold and hybrid seeds.
And silver.
So coming up after the half hour here, we're going to have Dr.
Phyllis Boniface, who's going to talk about why John Hopkins won't, the hospital, of course, network of hospitals, I don't know what you call it, what John Hopkins is officially, will not perform the sex change operation surgery, which they performed for a long time.
So she's lectured on biological psychiatry for over 30 years.
So I think she'll be able to help us out.
We're going to get to the Katie Couric rebuttal, The Gun Lies.
That is important to get to.
But I want to do something else first, because this is a longer segment, and we have time to do it.
So, this video went viral.
Well, I guess, has it gone viral yet?
I think semi-viral.
It's getting there.
So this video is kind of going semi-viral.
It's a feminist video, and I don't want to get into it too much before I just...
I mean, she's going to make my argument for me.
I'll set the stage with, it's basically telling women that you cannot at all justify marriage as a feminist.
Not Gay Jared, let's roll the first clip.
Dress it up, subvert it, deny it all you want.
Marriage is an institution that has curtailed women's freedom for centuries.
Okay, first thing, right off the bat, for those listening terrestrially, do you notice something?
Right away.
The woman she's mocking, the old 50s woman vacuuming?
Fetching lady.
She's a fetching lady.
The feminist doing the mocking?
Yeah.
I'll not care!
Yes!
Yes, the trash Muppet from...
Shocking resemblance.
Shocking resemblance.
Ad hominem?
Absolutely, but it's okay because we're going to get substantive now.
Let's go back.
Jared, roll clip two.
But instead of rejecting the patriarchal and outdated tradition, some feminists have decided to reclaim it.
We may have progressed since the Industrial Revolution, where Mary Wollstonecraft described marriage as little more than a state of legal prostitution.
But let's not kid ourselves.
Even today, marriage is not about equality.
It's about perpetuating male privilege.
Being given away by your father may seem cute and romantic.
But it stems from a time when women were seen literally as their father's and then their husband's property.
Okay, property?
Like I said, we have to get substantive.
But if women are property, you're a bad investment.
The real estate bubble popped and gave us the nightmare that is you.
You appreciate it so fast.
No, women now are not getting married.
And being given off as property.
That's not what's happening right now, okay?
Something also important, she talks about the prostitution, the quote on marriage is effectively prostitution.
Well, let me ask you this.
When you sit there and you demand that the government subsidize birth control, when you demand that the government subsidize your sexcapades, Personally.
Listen, you do whatever you want.
You want to do pup play?
I don't care, okay?
I have a Vietnamese sex hammock.
It doesn't bother me.
When you demand that the taxpayer subsidize it, however, well, now I have opinions.
And guess what?
You want to talk about prostitution?
You've just made the taxpayer your pimp.
Is Steven Crowder going to have to slap a bitch?
Roll clip three.
The majority of brides still opt for a white gown.
Beautiful?
Yes, indeed.
But the implication that brides should be virgins is both ludicrous and insulting to women.
That a female who has had sex is somehow spoilt goods goes against everything feminists claim to stand for.
Right.
Well, by the way, not the feminists who are on the movement now and supporting Islam.
You see that all across campus.
Feminism and Islam, right?
First off, I agree.
It's horrible.
It is horrible in some anti-community, anti-women communities out there, Islamic communities, that only virgins are valuable, right?
You're promised virgins in heaven.
Saddam Hussein Hussein, they used to rape schoolgirls and laugh about how they deflowered them.
Effectively, you're worthless.
They take pride in deflowering women.
That's absolutely awful.
Now, that's an Islamic thing.
In the Western world, men weren't rewarded with virgins.
Heaven isn't promised with virgins.
Women aren't devalued if they're not virgins.
Now, granted, yeah, for a long time, men did want to be married to virgins.
That was considered a good thing.
It has nothing to do with systemic oppression.
This may not appease the feminist gods.
The general rule was, it was nice to be married to a non-whore.
Now, does that mean that if you're not a virgin that you're necessarily a whore?
No, no, no, no.
It doesn't.
But it's a starting barometer.
And back in the day, it was something that they used as a barometer.
Same thing now when men talk.
They want to marry nice women.
Women who are good.
Women who are faithful.
Women who will raise their family well.
Therefore, they tend to stay away from, forgive my language, whores.
But it's not the same as Islam, and women are entirely valueless.
And also, they want to make sure these virgins never enjoy sex, so they genuinely mutilate them so they can't experience sexual pleasure.
But that's always surprised me.
Guys who want the female circumcision to ensure they have no pleasure.
How awful must your game be?
How weak must your game be?
You know, they're just telling them, like, no pride.
No, I'm great at this.
Too bad you can't feel it.
Oh, I'm a regular Don Juan, you piece of crap.
All right, let's roll the next clip.
I know feminists who've taken their husband's name because they say it's easier.
Easier than changing your passport, email address, utilities bills, and bank account details, I suppose.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes, it is easier than all of those things.
Particularly because in patriarchal traditionalist times, I just want to explain this to women who don't really understand marriage because they don't want to acknowledge the advantages and feminists can't wrap their giant fat meatheads around it.
In particularly traditionalist patriarchal times, as you mentioned, once it was done, you joined bank accounts, whatever it was, you had your male as your sole provider in traditionalist roles.
That's what women had.
So you had to change your last name and bank account and you never had to work again.
Now, let's fast forward to today where that's not necessarily the case.
Many women don't take their husband's last name.
They don't necessarily join bank accounts.
Sometimes they've made more.
And they're not necessarily expected to be homemakers if they once were.
Some of them don't cook.
Some of them don't clean.
Now, that's fine.
That's your right.
You can work instead and do those things.
Okay?
So that's what we have nowadays.
But they can still decide to leave the man's sorry ass with no justification whatsoever in many places across the globe and take half of his stuff forever, for the rest of their life.
So they can now do none of those things.
None of the joint bank accounts, none of the changes in the last name, and do none of the things that men tend to find attractive in a woman, right?
Cooking, being nice, not being a whore.
Women don't have to do any of those things, and they can still take your stuff for the rest of your life.
So, yeah, I think you have a good deal.
Now, let's roll the next clip.
You're basically being branded so anyone who sees your name knows immediately who you belong to.
Even if a woman does away with all these traditions, accept it.
Marriage can never be a feminist act.
Well, we didn't have the bit there about forced child brides and stuff.
Is that the next clip?
Okay, let's do that.
Let's get to that next clip because I don't really need to talk about her PETA insertion with branding animals.
It's just silly.
They pull out all the stops.
Go to the next clip.
It has formed the backdrop to women's oppression for centuries, and it continues to do so.
Forced marriage, child brides, and polygamy all show how human rights violations of women and girls all too often go hand in hand with marriage.
Okay, alright, listen.
Forced marriage and child brides have nothing to do with voluntary marriage in the Western world.
Okay, to conflate the two is just not fair.
It's intellectually dishonest, which one could argue might be your goal here in the first place.
That's the game.
Now, I would agree with you.
Muhammad had Aisha, a six-year-old girl, married off to him, and he screwed the daylights out of her.
To be fair, maybe when she was nine, Muhammad maybe only punched her and screwed her when she was nine.
I think that's bad.
Now, I married a smoking hot tall blonde who I love, and she loves me.
And we entered into a mutually agreed-upon relationship.
Mohammed raping a six-year-old girl?
Bad.
That marriage, I would argue, good.
You don't have to think so, but I think so.
See the difference?
Next clip.
It was not until 1991 that rape in marriage was made a criminal offense in England and Wales.
And, today, it's still perfectly legal for a man to rape his wife in 47 countries worldwide.
47 countries worldwide, for those listening.
If you look at those, okay, look at the countries she names.
Hmm.
Is there any kind of a disturbing trend that one might notice with this list?
Is there any sort of a statistical trend that one might want to observe for causation?
Anything that sticks out?
Iran, Libya, all of them are Islamic or communist.
The only one on there, I think, is Singapore, which is effectively a benevolent dictatorship.
So let's ignore that.
Yeah, the problem is marriage.
It's not Islam, where the founder of the feast, Muhammad, abused his wife and did do all the forced marriages and child brides.
That's all we have for clips, right?
We have one more.
We have one more.
Okay, one more.
This is important because I guarantee you they're going to be showing this in schools.
And then we'll give you our conclusion, which will be triggering.
So if you want to get married, then just get on with it.
But please stop pretending that because you're a feminist, it's some kind of subversive statement.
I love Snoop Dogg, despite his woman-hating lyrics.
But I don't pretend that listening to him...
She goes on to just say you can't really rectify feminism.
You can't justify feminism.
First off, Snoop Dogg wasn't entirely wrong there.
If we're talking about this video.
What do I think about this video in conclusion?
Well, it is one hell of a PSA for marriage.
I think most people watch this who aren't part of the social justice regressive left and they go, hmm, okay.
Can I live in an institution, as you put it, where I'm...
Get rid of that, not good, you're right.
We're going to a break?
Yeah, going to a break.
We have 30 seconds?
30 seconds.
You gave me the signal for three minutes.
No, 30 seconds.
There's a zero there.
See the zero?
I didn't see a zero.
Yeah, there was a zero.
I thought you were referring to yourself.
10 seconds now.
We'll come back and we'll give you the conclusion on this.
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I felt like I had to get into it.
So we were talking about marriage, and we were talking about this feminist video with the junk muppet from Labyrinth.
Disgusting.
Good call.
Good call.
Get some Purell in there.
Now, listen.
I know not everyone agrees with me on this, but I'm a big fan of marriage.
I've talked about marriage, and I've talked about my advocacy.
For marriage.
Now, marriage is not only the single biggest indicator for economic stability, growth, wealth creation.
It's also the single most important indicator we have for health, happiness, longevity.
These are statistically...
Children.
Children's success.
Yes, absolutely.
Children's success.
The biggest indicator people want to talk about.
Schools, lunches, eating your Cheerios.
The single greatest indicator we have...
of the success for children is, do you have a mommy and daddy, and are mommy and daddy still married in the house?
Particularly a daddy, actually.
When you get into the real stats, yes, it's important to have marriage, but particularly if you see fathers leaving, it tends to be more corrosive than, say, a widower.
I don't want to get too far off in the weeds.
But that actually is the biggest determining factor.
If you want free school, and you want welfare, and you want to increase the social safety net, and people really want to accomplish this, With children, married mommy and daddy is the biggest statistic we have to determine if that child graduates high school, goes to college, gets a job, is mentally well adjusted, is gainfully employed, goes on to have a family of his own, doesn't go to prison.
Same thing, you know, you may not like it, you may not like the idea of marriage, and that's fine.
But if mommy and daddy aren't married, the likelihood of that kid ending up in prison, not graduating school, having behavioral issues, go up an alarming amount.
That's just reality.
And this is why, as we addressed last week, you know, Karl Marx wasn't only a communist.
We talked about this.
A lot of people don't realize, Karl Marx wrote a lot about why he hated marriage.
Now, he disguised it as though it was due to the fact that the only reason people entered into marriage was because, he admitted, it was such a great indicator of wealth and economic growth and stability.
And he was saying people shouldn't be entering marriage for those incentives, which is why they enter marriage under capitalism.
In other words, he was saying, yeah, marriage makes...
Very successful, wealthy people, couples, families under capitalism.
But it's not for love.
It's for those things.
Now again, what you're doing is you're taking an observable statistic and then applying an opinion, as Karl Marx did.
And many people out there seem to agree with Karl Marx.
But that's the reality.
He was incredibly anti-family.
Why?
Karl Marx wanted to destroy the institutions that were necessary for a free society.
Good example, like right now, we're not only talking about marriage with feminists, but they want to teach heteronormativity in college.
This is the problem.
Heteronormativity.
Well, the heteronormativity that you're talking about and you're bitching about is just the reality that the vast majority, meaning 97% of people on Earth are heterosexual.
Thus, that is seen as the barometer for normal.
Does it mean better than?
No.
Does abnormal mean you're subhuman?
Abnormal means something that is not in line with the norm.
97%.
You're not going to find that unity anywhere else.
You're not going to find that kind of a statistic anywhere else as far as a majority.
97%.
3.8% if you include all LGBTQAAIP. According to Gallup, it was cited by GLAAD, identify as some form of alternative sexual lifestyle.
So, okay, we'll give it to you.
We'll give it to you.
96.
96%.
So, feminists want to destroy, and this is the same with social justice leftists, and liberalism in general, which stemming back from Karl Marx, destroy the institutions of marriage.
Destroy the institutions of capitalism.
Destroy the heteronormativity.
Let's do away with that.
Let's make people think that heterosexuality isn't any more normal.
Isn't any more of a majority than...
Homosexuality or pup play, as we see now.
Why?
Well, the biggest enemy of leftists, of social justice leftists, is reality.
That's their biggest enemy.
That's why they want to silence speech.
That's why they don't believe in mathematical statistics as it relates to tax plans.
Their biggest enemy, the biggest shutdown argument, is reality.
Now, I'm not just talking about liberals.
I'm not just talking about all liberals, some people who can make economic arguments and they don't agree with the Laffer curve, and I understand that.
I'm talking about social justice leftists.
And so what they need to do is destroy the institutions that are reflective of reality.
Marriage is a good thing.
Heteronormativity is reality.
Free speech is a good thing.
Second Amendment is a good thing.
Earning your own wealth is a good thing.
They have to destroy all of those so they can create their new reality.
A new reality where everyone is some kind of a pansexual boy-looking amoeba.
Gender is simply a figment of your imagination.
Marriage is done away with.
Nobody ever gets to hear anything that makes them feel uncomfortable or with which they disagree.
Everyone gets to steal by government force the wealth accruement of other people.
So that they can be happy.
That's the reality that they want to create.
And to do so, and they have the ability to with kids in school, they have to destroy the institutions that aren't just institutions.
That's the term they use, right?
An institution isn't necessarily a bad thing.
The institution of marriage is conducive towards a healthy, productive society.
You may not like it.
You don't have to do it.
No one's forcing you.
Again.
It's a statistical reality.
These institutions are merely reflections of a reality that these social leftists don't like, and so they try to destroy them.
This woman is trying to tell you that every woman out there who is getting married is effectively being sold off as property against her will, and once the honeymoon door closes, that husband has full license to rape her.
Granted, in Islamic societies, that is true.
I will give you that.
But it is not indicative of what happens with the left.
And guess what?
They want to create these new realities so that you can all be as miserable as the bridge troll who created this video.
Anyone want to believe that this woman is happier than the pretty feminine looking woman who puts on some makeup, who has a man who loves her and who has kids who run home and say, Mommy, Mommy, glad you're home.
Anyone really want to make that argument?
You think these people are happier?
You think Trigglypuff is happier?
No.
Do you think those kids are happier?
Do you think those kids are happier in a household with the lesbian boy-cutted butch chain gang from BuzzFeed?
Do you think maybe those kids might be happier if they come home with mommy and daddy curl up with some chocolate milk and watch a heteronormative programming?
I would be.
I think most kids would be.
I still am.
But they hate that.
That's like nails on a chalkboard.
Coming home to a mommy and daddy and watching G.I. Joe?
Oh, that has to stop.
And guess what?
No one's buying it anymore.
We're able to make arguments.
I've been on YouTube, and we've been out there for a long time, for years, and people are starting to come over to this side.
Things that we could have never said a couple years ago, people agree with now.
People aren't buying your crap anymore, leftists.
They don't believe you.
And I think that's a beautiful thing, unlike the lady who created this video.
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Glad to have this next guest.
We've had her on before.
And hot button issues.
Hot button issues.
Yeah, always controversial here.
She's a live wire, you see?
She's a real firecracker, see?
She's also a doctor.
She's a very smart lady.
She's practiced and lectured on biological psychiatry for over 30 years.
So, contrast to what you think, Yahoo84 on YouTube.
I believe she's more qualified in her opinion.
I don't know for sure, but I will trust her.
Dr.
Phyllis Boniface, thank you for being with us.
Hi, Stephen.
Glad to have you with us.
And, of course, people in the comments section, if they don't like what you have to say, will simply say that you are completely unqualified.
We know that going in.
But you've worked in psychiatry for a long time.
We've had you on before.
And I was actually inspired to invite you back on because my wife saw something that you posted on Facebook.
And we've had different opinions on the trans issue on the show.
We've had pro, we've had against, we've had people who had sex change and regrets.
But from a psychological, from a psychiatric perspective...
What is the approach right now, I guess, mainstream in the medical side?
I don't know if you say industry, just the medical approach with this issue right now.
Smart people.
Smart people.
Smart people is the word you're looking for.
Is it settled?
Is it completely settled in anything that people say that would suggest that maybe it might not be a healthy transition considered hate speech?
Is that the consensus in the medical community?
Well, unfortunately, I think the medical community is also prone to bending to, you know, public opinion and fads.
Because, you know, one of the things that we use in psychiatry is called the DSM, the Diagnostic Statistical Manual of Psychiatry.
And they've had five different versions of that.
They just came out with the DSM-5.
And so everything that is considered to be a psychiatric condition is categorized in there and given a number.
And so, you know, they tend to be splitters versus lumpers in that field.
You know, they're giving new names to things all the time and expanding diagnosis, which, you know, some people agree with that, some people don't.
I tend to think that they're putting too many diagnoses in there.
But the important difference in the last couple of years when they went from the DSM-IV, which was over a decade, To DSM-5 recently was that they recategorized transgenderism.
There used to be a diagnosis called gender identity disorder, which, you know, it implies that it's a disorder to be transgendered.
And the new version is called gender dysphoria.
So it does not call it a disorder.
The only problem is when people have dysphoria over it, which means unhappiness.
So you have to be distressed by the condition to qualify for a diagnosis now.
Is that the only qualification necessary, that you're distressed by what you've got hanging out or not hanging out between your legs?
Well, they have some specifics in there.
It says that you have the desire to be another sex, that you would strongly reject games and toys of the sex that you were born, that you would express the desire to be a girl if you were a boy or a boy if you were a girl.
So, you know, this is not typical of a psychiatric definition of something.
Usually there's some kind of science behind it.
Really?
Tonka trucks don't qualify?
He pushed the Tonka trucks away and grabbed the barbie.
Let's lop off his tallywhacker.
That's not the scientific process?
Well, actually, it's interesting you bring that up.
Because, you know, children, we'll talk about the stages of development, but, you know, there have been a lot of lobby groups that were trying to push for this.
And I actually unearthed some of the correspondence that went back and forth with the board that was actually generating the DSM-5.
So it's kind of like, you know, the people in Congress, they have all these...
People lobbying to get something they want out of it.
But there's a group called the World Professional Association of Transgender Health.
And if you do an acronym, it says WARPATH. Which is, you know, it tells you something.
It tells you something, yeah.
It doesn't seem as though it's out of place there.
Yeah, the letters they wrote to the APA and the different boards that were generating this tome...
They were talking about revising guidelines and to Make sure that they were recategorizing transgenderism as a non-normative but non-pathological.
So it means you're not like other people, but there's nothing wrong with it.
Now, why is that the case?
First off, if there's nothing wrong with it, why would it be causing, as you said, unhappiness, dysphoria?
And what was the reasoning for this push?
I mean, generally speaking, right, you can sort of look at a catalyst, a flash of genius moment, as to, we were wrong about this because...
Is there a consensus as to why the medical community was wrong in categorizing this as a disorder for so long?
Well, you know, medical organizations are political entities also.
And so, you know, I think one of the reasons they recategorize it as dysphoria is so people would get help, but they would get help for not transitioning from being a transgender, but to actually become more comfortable being a transgender.
So you have to follow the logic of switching the diagnosis.
Okay, I was going to ask, because on that front, is it Johns Hopkins or John Hopkins?
I always get that wrong.
John Hopkins.
Okay, and not Hodgkin's.
We're not going to get into Hodgkin's.
Not Hodgkin's, let's FOMO, which is better Hodgkin's.
Ugh, the worst.
Okay, and they won't perform it.
They used to, and they went back on that.
And I did see that you had posted on that.
Now, I've known that for a while.
It seemed like a lot of people were surprised at that.
So what is their reasoning, considering they went along that trail for a while and said, nah, you know what, this isn't the right course of action?
Well, they actually did prospective studies.
They followed people who'd had this transition and looked at what happened to them over the period of 20 or 30 years afterwards.
And, you know, in medicine, you're supposed to generate something that's evidence-based.
So you do something and you look at the outcome, and then you base further decisions on what happened the first time.
The real concern is that these individuals have done very poorly, and they had a 20 times higher rate of suicide than the general population.
Now, the push for transitioning people at this point, the rationale is to actually reduce suicide and depression.
At least that's their official task.
They say that if we allow more people to transition, there'll be better mental health.
When the outcome studies actually prove the opposite.
I've always read that it proves that they might be slightly better, inconclusive, but does it actually prove that they could be worse?
Well, I'm not sure.
How would you do it?
The person's their own control.
They didn't have a group that didn't transition.
Okay.
So, but the evidence certainly wouldn't point towards these success stories that they would like to have you believe, which is sad.
You know, my thing too, we know with hormones, right?
Obviously, as a psychiatrist, with hormones, the interaction between hormones and neurotransmitters, and testosterone, you know, you see with a lot of men who get like testosterone replacement therapy when they're older, that it helps their dopamine levels, right?
It's something that is incredibly important, particularly to men.
And to pump a man full of estrogen, A, we know that it's not good for you as far as cancer.
That's why there's this whole scare about xenoestrogens.
But I've got to imagine that putting estrogen into a male body, I don't even know how the male brain necessarily responds to it, that can't make one happier.
I would imagine it would have to affect neurotransmitters in a negative way, too.
Yes, you're exactly right.
A number of my elderly patients, actually men over the age of 50, not just elderly, But we do recommend hormone replacement for them, just as we do for women on the opposite side, because loss of testosterone does increase the incidence of depression and lack of energy.
I'm glad you brought this up, though, because this topic about hormones and the way the brain responds to them is very critical.
We know that the brain is exposed to all kinds of hormones in utero, even before birth.
There may be some influence of that in, for example, creation of homosexuality, which I do believe has a true biological basis.
Even Milo Yiannopoulos on the show, he said he thought it was a byproduct of both nature and nurture.
He said the truth lies probably between the two, and I think that's a rational approach.
Right.
Well, the problem is that the transgender movement, it's a mixed bag.
You know, you have what people consider true intersex condition, which is, you know, the hermaphrodite or pseudo-hermaphrodite, people that are born with organs of both sexes.
You know, the incidence of that is, you know, like one in 90,000 people.
So it's very, very rare.
There are other conditions where people...
And most of them, I was watching, most of them don't become transgender.
Most of them, they wait a couple years, or a significant portion, they wait a couple years and say, oh, he has more of a leaning towards a boy or a girl.
They pick one and they stick with it.
Most of them, they're not really representative of the transgender community.
No, they're not, actually.
But, you know, I think a lot of people think they're equivalent.
There were some things that happened in the medical community back in the 40s, 50s, and 60s where, you know, children were born with, they couldn't identify whether their genitalia was male or female, and the medical professionals just made a decision, and they did some kind of procedure which, you know, committed them to something.
Even though, say, they had an X, Y, and they were male, you know, they became a female as a result of that procedure, you know, anatomically.
So, I mean, there were some clearly missteps by the medical profession.
Sure.
And they always cite that.
But we're actually looking at people who want to go in the opposite direction.
There are some...
I was reviewing things about endocrinology.
It's a field that I'm very interested in.
I started off in internal medicine.
I would have done that if I didn't go into biological psychiatry.
They're actually advocating for children who express a gender dysphoria That they actually can have sex reassignment.
And what they're proposing is actually giving these children injections of something called to block the natatropin-releasing hormone.
That is the pulse that your brain delivers through the hypothalamus and pituitary that actually causes the sexual maturation at puberty.
So they are actually advocating and wanting to make it easier to achieve having this Injection done for children before puberty, so they don't go through puberty, and then waiting until they're 16 and then delivering the opposite hormone.
So, you know, they, for example, take a young girl.
Say she thinks she's a male.
They would actually block her puberty, and then a few years later, they would start giving her androgens.
So they're making these decisions at a very young age, and they're actually advocating for that.
They're trying to, again...
Which is so funny, because in the medical community, there have been so many groups lobbying against that same thing happening in the field of gymnastics or wrestling.
Exactly.
You know, you have young women who don't get their menstrual cycle or young men who are cutting weight.
They're wringing, you know, they're cutting weight, not losing weight, cutting weight.
They're wringing out their organs and dehydrating themselves.
And so some of them, you know, you go into high school, you wrestle at 112, and if you want to keep your spot, you stay at 112.
This is a common occurrence in wrestling and gymnastics are the sports I can particularly think of where the medical community has taken steps with athletic commissions and the Olympic community to say, you can't do this with kids.
It's catastrophic.
Yes, I agree.
You're actually doing something, you know, you're taking a person's genetics and you're doing the most potent epigenetic thing you can do.
Epigenetics is what you do to your genes that bring certain things out in the organism.
So you know, the hormones switch genes on and off at a very, very basic level.
They go right into the nucleus of the cell and they generate all of the activity, you know, production of RNA and protein and everything that the cells express As a result of the hormone that's being delivered, whether it's, you know, natural because the child's producing it or they're delivering it by injection.
So the fact that they're actually talking about this with children Is the part that is the most, I think, you know, concern, even to the point where I think it sounds a little diabolic.
Well, I want to hold that thought and continue with it in the next segment.
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It's just fascinating.
I don't really have a whole bunch to add, and so in these situations, I try not to add too much, because I'm clearly taking away from the intelligent dialogue.
Imagine my position.
Yeah.
We both should feel great shame.
Great shame.
This is a nice lady.
Be nice to her.
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We're glad to have her.
And not gay Jared doesn't often get to speak with doctors.
Usually, he's speaking about doctors in the witness stand, and they say, here's the doll.
Show us where they touched you.
Or I'm dying of the AIDS. Of the AIDS. This happened two weeks ago.
And that's the only, you know...
So, not good experiences with doctors.
So, Dr.
Boniface, we appreciate you reconditioning, Jared, to not fear all doctors.
That was very necessary.
Before we went to the break, you were talking about children, and you got into something that I don't quite understand, but about genetics.
What was the term?
Epi-something?
Epigenetics.
Okay, epigenetics, which is, is that a specific, was it about a suppression of something that happens through your genetics?
Forgive me, I'll let you take the wheel, but you were talking about with kids now in the transgender movement trying to get to them young and getting to why that could be a problem.
Yeah.
Well, you know, we're born with a certain genome, and what ends up being expressed is often a cause of what we're exposed to.
And so those are environmental causes, you know, experiences that we have.
Trauma, for example, we know can change what your genome produces.
But hormones are one of the most potent epigenetic factors.
You know, things change very rapidly after puberty.
I wanted to talk a little bit about the interface between the biology and the psychological aspects of children because I think there are a lot of people who studied psychology and they read Freud and they read Erickson and they know the different stages of childhood and psychological development and psychosexual development and what we know about that is really at odds with the idea that we are going to allow children to self-assign You know,
their gender identity in the future.
You know, we know, for example, you know, with the Freud's theories, and again, I'm not a Freudian, but, you know...
No, I don't want to have sex with relatives, so I think Freud was wrong about that.
But maybe he was right as it relates to, you know, Salon.com and HuffPo.
They seem pro that these days.
Well, you know, he describes at length from ages five until puberty, you know, he called that the latency phase.
That's kind of where people are not really, you know, firmly behaving as one sex or the other.
You know, they're very involved in other things and, you know, they're kind of, sometimes they have attraction to the opposite sex.
I think eight or nine percent of people in a survey remember having an attraction to the opposite sex, especially at that age, you know, up until puberty or just a little bit beyond.
So that's kind of rolled into normal development.
So again, you can see the difficulty with people kind of choosing their sex role When they're really not even fully through, you know, puberty yet.
Right.
And I know we can get super geeky, but we don't have a ton of time, and you're far smarter than most of me and my audience of degenerates, so I want to keep it pretty basic.
Yeah, I mean, it would seem to be sound logic that, you know, you're talking about a kid who just five minutes ago was wiping his nasal scrapings on the couch, that now all of a sudden you're letting him determine his life's...
Yeah, his life's sexual course.
Let me ask you, because you just touched on something that I think confuses a lot of people.
Was gender a medical?
Was it a scientific term?
Was it different from sex?
What's the wordplay?
Because now they're going, well, no, it's not the same.
It's sex and gender are two very different things, and so it's hate speech of you to mislabel them.
In the medical community, has it always been standard science that, well, sex and gender are different?
Well, that is a semantic argument, you could say.
We always talked about the sex of a child.
We didn't talk about the gender of a child.
That's much more of a kind of social construct.
Most of the transgender people that, you know, the medical profession...
Well, hold on, because that's important, because you just said kind of a social construct.
Yeah.
So, do you mean it's a social construct by, I guess, sort of progressives who want to say they're different, but in the medical community, did they recognize the social construct of gender as different from sex, or is that gender studies, humanity studies?
My question, I guess, is does that stem from science and medicine or a hippie drum circle?
It's not technically a medical term.
Actually, very few people who are transgendered are transsexual.
A very small group out of that really goes to become transsexual.
And of the transsexuals, they don't always go through the full transition.
Well, what separates them from a transvestite, then?
Because you used to have transsexuals, people who did the operation, and then transvestites, like Hoover, people who dressed up like women.
Rocky Horror Picture Show.
Right, exactly.
So what's the difference, then, if the transgender, a majority of them don't do the operation, is the difference between a transgender and a transvestite just some estrogen at that point?
How is it defined, I guess, medically?
Well, I guess technically, the way they want to cast a pretty big net, where you could actually, if you're a transvestite, you could consider yourself transgendered.
So if you put the dress on, Stephen, you could be transgendered.
Well, I have done that, and it puts the lotion on its skin.
I know people will give you flack for saying transgendered.
They'll say it's not an adjective, it's a noun, and you could be put in prison for two years in Canada for that.
What do you say to those people?
Well, I can share some of the experiences.
I don't use any names, obviously, but I've had a number of patients who weren't part of the transgender movement in high school, and actually they got a lot of attention for it.
It seemed like It was a lot of attention-seeking when I looked at the family dynamics and what these kids had gone through in their lifetime.
When they hit 16 or 17, they kind of abandoned it.
They maybe had a late puberty, and then they decided they weren't going to be that way anymore.
It was clearly a decision.
They weren't biologically driven to the conclusion of that.
I knew a lot of girls who did that with claiming bisexual in high school.
There was a trend.
And the rule was, I always said, if a girl claims she's bisexual in high school, she's trying to be cool.
If a guy claims, he's gay.
That's always been my experience.
Affirmation.
A lot of affirmation in schools now for being different.
And, you know, unfortunately, kids aren't always getting all the attention they need.
And most of the attention you get in school is negative.
You know, people are picked on.
They're bullied.
You know what it's like to go to middle school and high school.
If you have something that makes you special and insulates you from criticism and makes you, you know, somehow virtuous, kids will buy into that, of course.
You know, they're seeking approval.
Yeah.
And this is huge approval.
Yeah, it is.
Right now, it's a free hall pass.
No one can bully you.
No one can make fun of you.
You know, they can make fun of you for buck teeth.
They can make fun of you for ginger hair.
But once you say, I'm on estrogen, it's like, okay, hands off the kid on estrogen because you are going to get expelled in a nightly news segment.
Dr.
Phyllis Boniface, thank you so much for being with us.
We appreciate it.
We'll have to have you back on soon to talk about this because it's constantly developing.
I have to go to a break.
Lotta with Crowder.
Thank you very much.
We must go.
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Coming up in a couple of segments, we will have Chad with AIDS. Resident AIDS guy.
It's good to have one.
You never know when you're going to need one around.
We have a lot of guests.
We get pitches all the time.
And almost invariably we say no.
But we have a lot of guests who we pick because we find them interesting and intelligent.
And people really liked him.
He talked about the AIDS community and the disclosure laws.
What's going on?
Uh...
It's...
We've got a call.
It's...
It's, um...
Well...
What's happening?
Well...
Hey, hey, what's up?
Hey!
What's going on?
Hey, you there?
Dean?
Me?
Yeah, Dean.
What's up?
Yeah, no, you called me.
Bro, bro, bro, wait, wait, what's up?
Go to the gym right now.
Ready to get a big pump on?
Let's do it.
I don't...
I'm not into that kind of thing.
Tell them we're doing a show.
We're doing a show right now.
If we can, uh...
I'll text you later.
I'll text you.
Can I text you later?
Promise.
Text you back.
Right back.
Just, Jared, hang on.
We gotta do the show.
Tell them to call back.
Call back.
Alright, I'll call you back.
What?
Why does he keep calling in on the show?
I should have changed the settings so that he can't call in.
People shouldn't be allowed to call in while we're live.
Should I tell him he's Dean Cain?
Well, you're closer with him than I am, so I'll let you handle it.
I have no problem.
He's more than welcome if we book him in advance, but obviously this is...
I'm sorry.
So we have Chad with AIDS on, and he is going to talk to us not only about the Captain America gay controversy from a gay perspective who's logical, but also the pup play.
Fill us in.
He had some thoughts on Dr.
Boniface.
He sent me some messages regarding the interview.
So, listen, everyone is welcome to come on the program.
Not many people who disagree with us are willing to come on the program.
And he's a nice, reasonable guy.
I wonder if he still has a mustache.
I wonder if he still has that.
The mustache was a good look.
It was a good look, the mustache.
Not many gingers can pull off the mustache.
Okay, are we ready to do the Katie Couric?
We are.
Okay, so I was talking about this earlier and we didn't get to do the rebuttal because we did the feminist issue.
So Katie Couric, we wrote about it earlier this week.
Just to recap, she said she was releasing this...
It was a gun documentary and it was balanced.
And anyways, this is the clip from her with Matt Blatantly Homosexual Lauer earlier in the week that I covered and I called BS. And then I was vindicated.
Isn't that nice?
Let's roll that first clip.
There's a very common expression out there that says the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.
And yet they asked their daughter's boyfriend, who was there, if he had had a gun at the time, would it have made a difference?
I thought that was one of the most impactful moments of the film.
One of the first things they asked him, because he had a concealed carry permit, but because he traveled from Texas to Colorado to visit Jesse, yeah, he didn't have his gun.
One of the first things they asked is, would it have made a difference if you had had your gun?
And he said, absolutely not.
There was so much chaos.
They were trapped.
More innocent people would have died.
Okay, so I saw that and I wrote, hold on a second.
Before any of the controversies following it, which we'll get to, you have to understand, in my little brain, I see this on Monday.
Was it Monday?
I think it was Monday.
I think so.
And I'm going, ooh.
So she interviewed a firearm owner.
Now, as someone who owns firearms, and not Gajer, and many people, nearly all my friends do, how many, you'll never know.
What calibers?
Well...
Your guess is as good as mine.
I'm sitting there going, well, hold on a second.
She asked a firearm owner, who she said was a concealed carry holder, or a carry holder, if he thought he would have been better in Colorado with a firearm.
He said no, more innocent people would have died.
What is that guy saying?
That's a firearm owner saying, I am so woefully inept at wielding my firearm.
No one should.
I wouldn't trust myself.
No one should trust me with my firearm.
I don't know a single firearm owner, not one, not one who would answer the question that way.
Every single one would say, well, you know what?
Either they'd say, yes, I would feel safer, or they'd say, you know what?
I don't know.
But it would have changed the odds.
Not a single legitimate firearm owner would have said, no, I shouldn't have.
I have a carry permit, but I shouldn't be trusted.
I would kill more innocent people.
So I wrote about that, and I said, I think there's some BS here, and there's some manipulation going on.
Well, lo and behold, I think it was yesterday, I think it was yesterday, it comes out that she has deliberately misled the public with her editing.
So let's roll what you will see in her unbiased documentary first, and then what actually happened.
Roll clip.
Let me ask you another question.
If there are no background checks for gun purchasers, how do you prevent felons or terrorists from purchasing a gun?
Dramatic silence.
Oh, dramatic music.
They can't!
Oh my word, they can't prevent terrorists from getting guns.
Remember, this is unbiased reporting.
This is Katie Couric.
It's both sides of the gun control issue.
Well, it just so happens we have the audio of the actual question and the response.
A little bit different.
See if you can spot them.
Jared, roll clip.
If there are no background checks, how do you prevent...
I know how you all are going to answer this, but I'm asking anyway.
If there are no background checks for gun purchasers, how do you prevent felons or terrorists from walking into, say, a licensed gun dealer and purchasing a gun?
Well...
One, if you're not in jail, you should still have your basic rights.
So if you're a terrorist or a felon?
If you're a felon and you've done your time, you should have your rights.
Well, the fact is we do have statutes.
There you go.
And he goes in to answer her question.
Now, I want to issue a warning here.
I've always said, listen, the term selectively edit, I don't use.
Anything that's any film, any video you've ever seen is selectively edited.
Editing is a process of selecting what makes the cut.
So that's stupid.
Okay?
And we've edited plenty of videos that we've put online.
Now, I'm a firm believer that context over content matters.
I'm a comedian.
I'm not a journalist.
I've told people, take it as entertainment.
That being said, and not get Jared's word, we have never, ever edited somebody out of context to make it look like their response was the exact opposite of their response.
In fact, we've gone out of our way to make sure it was very clear, oftentimes.
Yes, it was very clear.
The context was clear, the answer was clear.
As a matter of fact, when you first started working with me, a couple of times, I remember you said, like, oh, this is funny.
And I said, well, you know what?
Yeah, but that's not exactly what he said.
We don't want to be unfair.
And by the way, we still have made friends with quite a few people who saw themselves in the videos going, man, you could have really made me look stupid.
I appreciate you not doing that.
Several people.
So that is important.
So in this case, just like Michael Moore with Roger and me, that was his first film, right?
The head of GM. The entire film was predicated on the idea that he never got an interview.
With the guy he was seeking.
Roger, gosh.
One of those typical white guy names.
It'll lose me.
Anyways, the head of GM. The guy gave him an interview and it was very nice.
It wasn't included in the film and the whole film was made as though he didn't get an interview.
Katie Couric says this is balanced, both sides of the gun issue.
And she says, how do you stop a terrorist from getting a gun?
And the clip shows silence, with people being unable to answer, followed by dramatic, scary music.
It's like a sketch.
It's like a fear-mongering sketch that we'd put in a commercial.
A reality show or something, even.
When the real question was...
By the way, her question was longer.
The context was changed.
And they provided answers.
They provided answers as far as their opinion.
Listen, unless you are in...
If you've done your time, you should have your basic human rights.
And then they go into the statutes and how it would be prevented.
Now, without the Internet...
I think this came from, was it The Federalist?
I can't compare it.
We have it up at letterwithcrowder.com, and credit to the people who got the audio.
Without the internet, Katie Kirk did this a lot.
Matt Blayton, homosexual hour, did it a lot.
They go up and they say this kind of stuff, and they tell you it's unbiased, and it's balanced, and guess what?
Before the internet, no one was able to fact check them.
This is what I'm talking about when I say that by default, anyone who watches Good Morning America, anyone who watches the Today Show, Anyone who watches any programming outside of very, very limited programming, they're getting bombarded with this, and it's a liberal bias of omission, what they don't cover.
People think because Katie Couric isn't going out there saying, hey, hey, ho, ho, George Bush has got to go, that somehow she's straight down the middle.
No.
And these people are furious.
You know the reason they hate bloggers?
You know the reason they hate online entertainment?
Is because they can get fact-checked.
Brian Williams.
Dan Rather.
Dan Rather.
Katie Couric.
Without the kind of content that we do...
No one would have ever been able to call her on it.
And you know what?
That's what happened with Michael Moore.
Michael Moore would not have become the giant gelatinous monster that he is today if people were as efficient on the internet.
If YouTube was really around and kicking when he made Bowling for Columbine.
I remember there were some movies like Michael Moore is a Big Fat Liar.
And I think I brought it into a film class.
Something about Michael Moore was made by one of my friends, gosh, Mike Wilson.
Anyway, there was a documentary out there.
Great, you should watch it.
And I gave it to my teacher when he showed the Michael Moore Fahrenheit 9-11 and said, you know what, you should probably show this to be balanced.
And only one professor, I think, throughout all of my college history did do that.
So that's what you had to do.
You had to send a physical DVD, kind of like, you know, the Jerky Boys or that kind of stuff, back when, you know, viral meant VHSs and cassette tapes and CDs.
You had to do it and you didn't have the giant megaphone that someone like a Katie Couric or Michael Moore has.
Well, now that's been equalized and people like Katie Couric hate it.
I try and give as much leeway as possible.
Jon Stewart.
They're editing it to make it funny.
Nothing he says is even remotely accurate.
I'm a comedian.
What we do is far more accurate than anything on The Daily Show.
I promise you, we do not edit things to mislead you.
But it's made for entertainment.
Katie Couric lied.
Lied.
And if it weren't for this, she would have gone on down the trail, and everyone would have gone along with it and been complicit.
Oh, this is great.
Isn't it great that we have a balanced viewpoint of firearms?
What is it really pushing?
Gun control, registers, mental health barometers, where basically you take a Xanax, well, no, now you can't buy a firearm.
It is a total and absolute gun grab.
People say, do you think Hollywood wants to take your guns away?
Yes.
Yes, they do.
They absolutely do.
Security guards for them, they want to take yours away.
And her Botox is horrible.
Katie Couric should just allow herself to age gracefully.
I know you're trying to go for the Valley Girl thing, but it's embarrassing.
You're trying to match the face to the intellect, but my God, woman, have some self-respect.
Your forehead walked into the room six minutes before you did.
I don't like her.
What's Chad coming up next?
Chad coming up next.
Coming up next, Chad with AIDS.
Stay tuned.
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Thank you.
Well, times are certainly changing.
I'll keep you abreast as this story unfolds for allowing me to do the things that I want to do.
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I think it just helps a lot.
For those listening, not get Jared had an incident between the commercial break.
Hopefully he's okay.
You feeling okay?
A little busy.
Well, drink some water or something.
I got an energy drink.
No.
Skittles?
Okay.
All right.
Well, you have to fade out the music.
We have our next guest.
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Do we have him on?
He is ready to go.
Do we have an intro song?
Oh, we have an intro song.
Okay.
Well, we do want to introduce you.
He's been on the show.
People loved him.
He talked about the AIDS disclosure laws before.
People thought it was incredibly informative.
We wanted to have him back.
So we do.
We have him.
Chad with AIDS is here.
Be sure that you see that this is not HIV. But full-blown AIDS. Not HIV, but really full-blown AIDS. I'm sorry, I wish it was something less serious.
But it ain't.
Chad, thank you for being with us, sir.
Oh, good lord.
Whoa!
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
We were not expecting this.
What is this?
You got rid of the mustache is what offends me the most.
This is what happens when you gay all the things.
When you gay all the things.
Well, now, Jared, you went to a wide shot.
We can see that it's not a full rainbow flag.
He didn't have the full rainbow.
He didn't go all the way.
He's not all the way in.
This is true.
Okay, so full disclosure, Chad has been on the program.
He is of the gay persuasion.
I don't think I'm outing anything there.
And you wanted to talk about the trans issue.
And we had Dr.
Boniface on, so we have a few opinions on that.
But the big controversy this week is Captain America.
They want to make him gay.
Now as a gay American, what were your opinions on that?
It brings me back to the summer of 1997, maybe?
When Ellen came out bravely, and it was the most courageous thing in the world.
Yes, it was.
And all of the gays that I knew in real life and on the internet and all the gay magazines complained because her show was too gay.
I don't know if you remember that, but she had like gay ice and everything was gay, gay, gay.
Every episode was gay, gay, gay.
And gave you were mad about it?
Yeah, they were like, why can't it just be a regular show with a gay person?
Or she happens to be gay, yeah.
Yeah, why does it have to be gay every episode?
And then now...
And did you count yourself amongst them?
Transition.
Oh, no, I loved Ellen.
Okay.
And I remember I was a hardcore liberal, and so I was like, we need more gay.
Okay.
To be fair, she can be funny.
She's funny.
To be fair, Ellen DeGeneres is funny.
She can be very funny.
I've always thought that...
She can be very funny.
Yeah, her stand-up was pretty funny, too.
I've heard through the grapevine, people have worked with her.
If you like what you kind of see, the kind of schtick, that's great that she's...
Maybe not necessarily what you get behind the camera, but she's very funny.
Yeah.
Okay.
But no, the way I reacted to it is it's amazing what's happened to the gay community when it turned into the LGBTQIA community.
AAIP, silent F, get it right.
Exactly.
I apologize.
I've triggered some people.
Yes, of course you have.
But half of it is the gay left is entirely progressive now, and so all they care about is, you know, oh look, there's something that everyone loves, let's take it.
A big part of it's just that.
But another part of it is, honestly, and trigger warning here, the reality is everybody in society wants to make the straight guy happy.
That's Mike, sorry, Matt, the guy you had on earlier.
Matt Matreon, yes, the fighter.
Yeah, super masculine, natural, happy, you know, nice guy who punches people in the face for a living.
He does.
Look at everybody, from feminists to gay men to trannies to everybody, lesbians.
Everyone's goal is either to get a straight man to have sex with them or to be like a straight man or to get their approval.
They want Captain America to be gay because he's the most...
Visual idea of American masculinity.
So you're turning it on its head and saying it's almost gays don't realize they're playing into effectively a byproduct of patriarchy.
Yes, it's all patriarchy.
I mean, look, I made a joke today that apparently the end goal of all trans men is to look like John Goodman.
It's true.
They're all obese men with neckbeards.
I don't understand the lesbian appeal, but think about it.
Chaz Bono.
Yeah, women seem to be doing nothing but mimicking masculinity, and men seem to be mimicking female behavior to get straight guy attention.
Well, what's funny, feminists accept it.
They're mimicking a stereotype of women, like Bruce Jenner, right, Caitlyn Jenner.
It's just put in some boobs and makeup.
And in any other situation on the cover of Cosmopolitan or Elle or whatever it is, they would say, these are unrealistic standards of beauty.
Look at the Photoshop on the hips and the shoulders.
But when he has a penis, however...
It's stunning and beautiful.
It's gorgeous.
It's wonderful.
Yeah.
Right.
That's got to be tough for you as a reasonable gay guy right now.
The LGBT, T is tossed on, the trans thing.
I've spoken with a lot of gay people who say, that is not me.
No.
You know, and from, I don't know, 1940 until 2015, most of us were just kind of cool with it.
We were like, you know what?
You go do your thing, and you're on Mari Pulpich, and it's a big...
But we really didn't care.
Transgender people?
Yeah, I mean, well, people like...
In the 1940s, there was a very famous...
I can't remember her name right now, but she transitioned.
She was a soldier, and she transitioned overseas, came over.
It was kind of a stunning thing, and then in the 1960s, they started getting...
Well, come on.
They think they're blending in.
Most of us can spot them.
Well, yeah, but their goal was to blend in to society.
Right.
They seem to have the identity of, I am a transgender person.
Right.
And it's getting harder and harder to put up with their nonsense.
I'm sorry.
It is.
And the unfortunate thing, we were talking about this with the Captain America video we released.
A few years ago, we could have never done it.
Everyone would have said, well, this is homophobic.
How dare you?
And they would have feigned offense.
But now...
You see people, I'm afraid I can go too far.
People are not only okay with it because they're tired of the crap, but then people are going, alright, you know what?
I'm sick and tired of all gay stuff now.
It's like food that's too rich.
Yeah, exactly.
So, okay, I want to keep you on and we'll talk more about that after the break because I wanted to talk about pup play.
You homos know all about that.
I assume all of you are into it.
That's what the heads at ThinkProgress told me.
And let's get into it.
Leather dog choke collars.
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For those asking, Not Gay Jared is fine.
He's fine now.
We're good.
And we have our guest back with us, Chad.
Chad with the HIV, with the AIDS. Not that we pigeonhole guests, but we pigeonhole guests.
And he's going full kamikaze pilot and gang all the things right now.
So, did you listen to the Dr.
Boniface interview?
I did.
Yes.
Did anything stick out?
Because I know you had some opinions and questions.
Did anything stick out at you in there specifically?
Yeah, it's fascinating that...
We were told by people like Zach Ford, who is the ThinkProgress guy you were mentioning earlier with the pup play.
He's constantly telling us that if we don't affirm transgender children, that they're going to kill themselves.
That this experience of being transgender, which I experienced myself as a child, is so distressing that you cannot function unless you have medically necessary treatment.
But it's not a psychological disorder.
They're very careful that it's not a mental illness.
It's not a psychological disorder.
But it's something that causes so much stress.
You're on the brink of suicide.
You can't be happy until you get hormone therapy and surgery and all kinds of things.
Isn't that what bipolar is like?
Isn't that what anxiety disorders are like?
Right.
And to me, if we can – I had someone arguing with me that you can take a brain scan of a five-year-old child.
You can tell that they're transgender because the girl's brain looks like a male's brain or you can see hormone levels.
Well, if that's the case, then it goes from being an identity choice.
I identify as a pan-gender fairy or whatever.
I'm going to get letters, but yes.
It turns into a medical condition that we can verify.
If we can see a five-year-old child has a hormone disorder that is going to be so distressing that they have to devote their entire life to mimicking the other gender just to kind of satisfy it and they may kill themselves, then we have a medical obligation to cure that with hormone therapy.
And the cure itself is going to be...
How do transgender activists realize the road they're going down by demanding scientific proof?
Well, it's funny because they say they don't want it to be disorder, so they call it dysphoria, which means they're essentially so unhappy that treatment is necessary, but that doesn't help with the happiness.
And nowhere else would there be any kind of a clinical issue that causes so much distress and unhappiness that wouldn't be classified as a disorder, only with the transgenderism.
And we've spoken with other psychiatrists off air who don't want to be on the program because they're afraid of the gay shtapa who have said the most disturbed people they've had to treat have been transgenders.
And they've talked about that.
And we've had people on the show, several, not Gay Jared knows, we've had stalking issues.
Several.
We've had what?
We've had three or four transgenders on the show.
Gosh, they do some weird stuff.
And Theron Meyer is great.
Theron Meyer's been great.
We've had no issues.
But every single other one...
Has been a real issue.
And we've had more books for the show than we haven't had on the show, remember?
I mean, I'm talking stuff like actually report it to the authorities.
And Theron Meyers has been great, and we definitely want to have Theron back on.
Oh, yeah.
And I've talked about my experience.
When I was a kid, I wanted to be a girl.
And all the way up into my 20s, I actually pursued transgender therapy.
Did you do the hormone replacement therapy?
No, I never got that far because it was too expensive at the time.
This was in the early 2000s before it started to be part of health insurance.
So honestly, that's the reason why I gave up was because I couldn't afford it.
And you're glad you did?
Yeah, I'm glad I did now.
I had good therapists that helped me understand my need for masculine approval, my need to understand masculinity, the fact that I was trying to be female as a desperate attempt to get that.
And what's strange is that I have the exact same experience as every other transgender person going from a child on through.
But when I explain this to people, and I say, technically I'm a transgender person by the definition, because I had that experience.
But I got past it.
I healed.
I don't know if you can call it a cure, but I psychologically got better where I'm perfectly comfortable with my...
You say the masculine approval.
I don't want to get too personal.
Did you have issues with a male figure, father relationship?
No, my father was fantastic, but I struggled as a child to connect with other boys.
If I could define my entire childhood, it was, how do I get boys to like me?
Because I just couldn't figure it out.
If you look on Twitter, they're a controversial course, but if you're looking at people like...
Mike Cernovich of Guerrilla Mindset or Nick Hagrid of Masculinity Rising or Alexander Cortez or the Dark Triad Man, Ivan Throne.
Those guys who I respect a great deal, they are pushing this idea of encouraging masculinity in boys and men.
In a very visceral way, a very direct way that's incredibly controversial to the outside world.
But they have a huge following.
Some of those guys are wrong, though.
Not all of them, but some of them.
I mean, you know, I talk about that with this.
Then you get into the realm of this false idea of machismo.
And, you know, you can be a nerd, you can be physically weak, and you can be a great man, and people can flourish under your leadership.
And some of them, that's why I don't say the Mananist movement, because a lot of it can be like the transgender movement.
It becomes very surface-oriented, and a lot of these people are very...
Not all of them.
You've named some great names there.
But I've seen some of them, we've had them now to be on the show, who are vapid.
Oh, I understand.
In the sense that it's like, I've made money.
I bang chicks.
That doesn't make you a man at all.
And if you're talking about teaching young men right from wrong, moral absolutes, what a man should be, what a father does, great.
But a lot of men in this don't do that.
You know, there's a whole pick-up game where they just want to have sex with so many women.
Always.
And the reason I bring him up is because there's a need for understanding what masculinity is in a way that's not shameful.
I devoted my entire life just trying to understand what masculinity means.
But with the transgender thing, transgender people now, whenever I tell them this, I'm like, I have the exact same experience you did, but this is where I am.
They say, oh, you weren't really transgendered.
You were a non-conforming, non-gender identity.
They make up a new term.
They dismiss my complete experience because, from their perspective, if a four-year-old girl says I'm a boy, she's a boy.
That's what the White House...
Guidelines Day.
Well, there's a great book.
I don't know if you've read them.
Oh, yeah, yeah, I have.
There's a great book called Wild at Heart.
Was it John Eldridge?
I know it's a Christian book, so people don't like hearing it, but this is something I read when I was a kid.
My dad had to read it.
It was great.
Great book, and it talks about very simply how every boy wants a princess to save, a dragon to slay, and kind of goes through the sort of fantasies of young boys and what that really represents, being a provider, the damsel in distress, which is inherent into the male psyche.
And so whether you're a believer or a deist or not, it is a fascinating book.
And that's why I see there are a lot of coalitions between sort of pragmatic atheists and even really very, I guess, sort of Bible-believing Christians.
They've been talking about this for a long time.
Sorry, I didn't mean to go.
I want to get to the pup place.
Okay, go ahead.
Oh, yeah.
And then we'll get to the pup place because we don't have that much time.
You're fine.
No, really, to me, that's the undercurrent of all of the feminist movement, the current gay movement, the transgender movement, is the people that are fighting so hard against what you were describing earlier, this idea that boys need to compete with each other, that it's good for a boy to learn respect and manners and marry a woman who respects him and he loves her, and they build a household together and they raise children, that that heteronormative idea...
Is the ideal.
And that all of this, all the rest of this that we're seeing are the people desperately trying to justify why their lifestyle choices are just as good, even though they're in pain.
Right.
That's just my...
No, I appreciate your candid.
Okay, so speaking of which, pup play.
Zach Ford.
Pup play.
Explain it real quick.
Give us in 20 seconds, what is pup play so people don't think I was lying earlier?
Pup play now...
It's changed.
But one of my first gay images was men in thongs with a leather chain on their knees on the ground with their master at a gay pride parade.
Now they're in full latex stuff with dog heads, and they're sitting with...
The weird picture where it's this woman and a man, and then they're with other people like he's a dog.
Yeah.
The only reason we know this is because, was it Zach Ford?
Is he at Think Progress?
Or is he at Think Progress?
Yeah.
He's the editor.
He's the editor.
Of LGBT. So this is mainstream.
Not good yet.
It looks very disturbed.
Is this an expensive hobby?
And put out this picture.
Well, the suits.
It sounds expensive.
It's like a super suit, but with dog ears.
Leather suits.
And like, paws and...
Yeah.
And they're role-playing.
And if I'm not mistaken, generally speaking, getting into sexual activities dressed as a dog.
Now, am I saying it should be illegal?
No.
None of that.
But it's weird.
But I can judge it.
Yes, it's very creepy to me.
And by the way, if you identify as a dog now, because now we're in the inner species, does that mean that you are one?
And is that technically bestiality?
I don't know.
When I was seven, I thought I was a cat.
Yeah.
My parents didn't give me a litter box.
But you know what struck me?
You just used the couch.
I did.
What struck me was Zach was like, this is like a beautiful part of, it enriches the gay community.
And I'm like, a man in a latex dog suit on his knees, like, it's a weird, like, humiliation kind of thing.
Like, on the fetish side, it's all, you know, I want to be humiliated.
How does that enhance or enrich?
I don't understand how most of the gay pride parade enhances when you have people in the Folsom Street Fair just having sex on the streets.
Again, if you want to say it's acceptable, but how does that enhance or enrich the community?
I fully embrace the concept of a dominant male and a submissive partner and all that kind of stuff.
I think it works very well, but...
Out on the street with a dog collar and stuff, originally the gay pride parades were designed to scare straight people.
It was this idea of we're going to be the most ridiculous, absurd thing in the world.
We're going to do everything we do in the bedroom out on the street and we're going to push it in your face.
Remember, we're here, we're queer, get used to it.
Right.
And over time, they've just decided that instead of pursuing, I have the right to choose, they're pursuing, everything I do is valid and you must accept it.
And that's what they're pushing out.
I feel like they have the gay marriage, and so right away, this was the big thing.
It's done now, trans bathrooms, Captain America gay, pop play on the streets.
I feel like they're just reaching for stuff.
And the unfortunate thing is a lot of people...
I think lump all of the gay community in because these people have the loudest voices and unfortunately people like you who probably watch this and go, oh my gosh, what a fruitcake.
People lump you in the same category now and they're starting to reject all of it.
Is it representative?
Do you think there are more gay people out there like you or like the Pup Plays Act Ford people and have you felt that backlash sort of growing because of it?
I think there are a lot more people like me.
I think the average gay person identifies with the LGBT movement because we kind of have this culture of us against them.
We're a community, we're a family, and they hate you and the Christians are going to come get you and all that stuff.
I think, though, more and more...
Even those people who would consider themselves liberal and even leftist are looking at five-year-olds declaring their gender and people in dog costumes and women who have full neckbeards and are obese with Other women and they get pregnant and then they call that a loving family.
I think more and more people are starting to just say, it's harder to be open-minded now.
And that's not us.
I think there's a big push.
It's hard because the entire gay media right now is all transgender all the time.
Yeah, I know.
And it's so aggressive.
It is, but it's funny.
If you look at gay movies for the longest time, there was this really strong thing of transgender people are not us.
A man who's attracted to women but feels like a woman trying to be in a lesbian relationship was controversial.
Those ideas, it was always kind of weird, and now it's all we ever talk about, and I think a lot of people really just want to be LGB. Right.
Well, I think you're right, and not only that, but it really destroys the whole nature-nurture argument that gays were pushing for a long time, and it's nature, that you're born this way, whereas then you had some Christians who were too far the other going, you choose!
And now they're saying, no, no, you choose gender, and, you know, the gender fluidity, and it really has tossed it on its head, and I think a lot of people are regressing with all of it.
Yeah, and the reality is that to accept the transgender movement means to reject the sexual orientation argument.
The idea that I'm born attracted to men is what we've been pushing for decades.
There's something in my head that says I'm attracted to men.
But if you are born female with a female body and male is me...
We have 20 seconds, so you've got to wrap it up, sorry.
Male is meaningless until you decide you're male.
How can I be attracted to males naturally if male has no meaning until you decide where it is?
Well, it's a good question.
You can't have one or the other.
It's a good question, but we have to let you go.
We will get your Twitter handle up here after the break.
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Glad to be back.
Thank you so much to Chad Felix Green.
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Chad Felix Green.
Green with an E. Green with an E. Always an interesting guy.
Always an interesting guy.
He comes on.
He just opens up.
He's a little slow.
Slower on the outset.
Slow out of the gate.
Where you're like, okay.
And then, boom.
He hits you with something where you go, hold on a second.
You just skimmed over that.
So, of course, one of our biggest fans, Daniel Eldridge, wanted to ask us about some controversy.
Female Ghostbusters, feminist Ghostbusters.
The reason we haven't gotten into this is because we want to talk about it as we get closer to the release.
We may or may not have some things planned, and I do know about the angry video game nerd guy.
When does it come out?
Is it soon?
I want to say it's July.
Because I feel like I've seen it a lot.
Well, they've been pushing it hard as a feminist deal.
It always scares me as a movie.
When you see a lot of trailers, it tends to be...
For a long time before, and then there's almost the bubble where they don't promote it as much right before the...
I don't think it's going to be right.
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm one of the few people I think Melissa McCarthy is funny.
I know a lot of people don't.
I think she's funny.
I think she's funny.
I don't think the other women in there are funny at all.
Eh, hit-miss.
The one blonde who...
She's funny as Hillary Clinton on SNL. That's about it.
Is Kristen Wiig in this one?
I don't find her funny at all.
I think she's painfully unfunny.
Her and Molly Shannon, I just think, are the worst female comedians ever.
Ever, ever, ever.
I just find them so horrendously unfunny.
I know people are going to get mad at that.
Kirsten Wiig on SNL, her whole thing was just...
I'll put my chin down and make a face!
And we're like, oh, she's so random!
She's so clever!
I just don't find her funny.
I find her funny in a few movies.
That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
In a few movies, maybe.
Anyway, the point is, they're pushing this with the feminist deal, and they don't understand the backlash.
You know, if you just respected the original Ghostbusters, which is a classic, probably one of the top guy films of all time, I've actually thought she can be funny on SNL. I watched her stand-up.
It is every single negative stereotype that you could possibly imagine of a black female comedian.
They just go up and, Hey, what's up, mother...
Ha!
Ha!
I shoot hoops, y'all!
I'm dunking on, bitch!
That's her whole thing.
It's her whole shtick.
Like, if you were to write for Simpsons or Family Guy, a quintessential sort of hack black comic, it's her.
But because she's a woman, she gets a free pass.
Really, really bad.
I thought she was actually funny on SNL, and I want to watch the stand-up.
I can't do it anymore.
Ruins it.
So, by the way, tweet your support at hashtag FeelTheHopper.
It looks like Hopper2016 just suspended his campaign.
We were talking with Chad about something that he mentioned right before we went to the break.
There was something that he mentioned, and I don't remember exactly what it was, but it was important, and it showed up in my tweets.
The puppy play we were talking about.
Gosh, I can't remember.
Maybe people can tweet me and they'll remind me at S. Crowder.
There was something there that I was remembering and I forgot what it was.
Chad just hit on a few chords and went, oh my gosh, I really want to talk about that.
But there definitely is a rejection.
I've noticed this.
We have these bits and we do these commercials and we do some stuff on the show that, like I was saying, two, three years ago, there's no way we could have done it.
There's no way you could have the Che Guevara t-shirt available soon.
Socialism is for figs.
You couldn't have done that.
And I just think people are going, like we said, we've talked about it.
If you go back a year plus in this show, where I go, the pendulum swings the other way.
You can only call people racist, homophobic for so long until they go, you know what?
All right, fine, let's go with that.
Fine.
I'm not going to fight anymore.
Oh, yeah, I'm racist, just like Ben Carson is racist, right?
Right.
Yeah, I'm a white guy, so I'm racist.
But you do the same thing with Ben Carson?
Got it.
Yeah, I'm a homophobe, just like...
Dave Rubin is a homophobe, just like Milo's a homophobe, just like Chad Felix Green is a homophobe.
Sure, fine.
Okay, I'm a homophobe.
Great.
Yeah, no, I don't want Captain America taking turns on a swinging dong.
Okay, fine, I'm a homophobe.
Let's go with that.
And that's what happens.
And it goes back to...
Not too far the other way, necessarily.
I don't know that it has yet.
But it does.
The pendulum swings back.
And people need to understand that.
And people on the right need to understand that, too.
That's just the natural cycle of society.
And a lot of people think we're somehow beyond it.
We were talking about this with young children who've never...
You have kids right now who are 25 or younger.
They really don't remember 9-11.
So they think humanity has evolved beyond conflict.
They've grown up in a world where America's number one and, well, we don't really need the army.
Let's downsize it as Bernie wants so you can give me free college.
And we're fine.
They've never seen that attack, that reality.
And somehow we want to believe that humanity is somehow beyond hardwired biology.
That men are attracted to certain traits in women.
that the vast majority of the population is heterosexual, that certain sexual activities are more corrosive, not only to the human body, but the mind.
And certain lifestyles are more beneficial than other lifestyles.
You can only push that so much and tell people they're beyond humanity until they see humanity, until they see it.
I mean, Chad is a perfect example.
We joke about it, and he's a great sport, but here he talked about getting HIV and someone who didn't disclose it and actually forcefully raped him.
Actual rape.
We talked about that.
And if you're mad about this and you're sending in your complaints to one of our affiliates, fine.
I don't care.
This is one thing.
We only get complaints on traditional radio.
We're just being real here.
The guy was raped by someone who wanted to transmit AIDS or HIV. And so I'm sure that probably changed his outlook, where he thought, we're beyond this, and I'm part of a loving community.
And humanity, human nature, will rear its ugly head or its second head, whether it is in straight life.
Here, Islam, gay.
That's what I wanted to talk about.
He was talking about gay things in the media and how it's changed.
So we were talking about this.
Like, for example, I don't want to watch Gay Captain America.
I talked about this.
Why?
Most trade people don't like watching gay things.
It's uncomfortable.
Just like they don't like watching ugly naked women.
Kathy Bates in About Schmidt.
I'm going to throw up.
Two naked dudes getting it on is even more unappealing to a straight guy.
Generally speaking, women aren't...
And the whole lesbian thing is a lie.
Lesbians...
The closest thing in real life to one of those attractive lesbians is Portia Del Rossi.
And she still has to go home to Ellen.
But not only do they want to push gay characters, and the abuse is far higher in lesbian households and in homosexual households and separation, but when was the last time you saw a film where any gay, transgender, lesbian was the bad person?
Or was in an unhealthy relationship?
Or an abusive relationship?
It's always this secret, closeted, conservative Republican who's secretly gay and is going through a divorce, and the gay couple helps them.
There's nothing wrong with having good gay people in programming.