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Feb. 21, 2025 - Knowledge Fight
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#1010: January 27, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in to enjoy Alex arguing that Elon Musk should probably be the king of space, and that this was foretold by a famous Nazi who could see the future.  

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alex jones
30:41
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dan friesen
46:17
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jordan holmes
28:42
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@darkjournalist
01:51
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errol musk
01:25
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pastor david manning
00:02
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steve quayle
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alex jones
It's time to pray.
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Need money.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
unidentified
Thanks for holding us.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your world.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
unidentified
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot is the checking back in on the food stuff.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
I went to a local convenience store.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I saw an M&M that I had not tried before.
jordan holmes
A flavor of M&M?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Peanut butter and jelly.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
Interesting choice.
jordan holmes
All right.
All right.
I had not considered that an M&M.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
How was it?
dan friesen
Not great.
jordan holmes
I didn't...
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
I think it was just not...
It didn't balance very well.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I thought it tasted kind of weird.
I'm sure there's going to be some staunch defenders out there who are pissed off at my take, but I don't know.
I just found it a little underwhelming because the idea, I thought, was like, oh, this is...
Brilliant.
jordan holmes
It does feel like it should be.
It feels like a smart idea that I do, like, if I go through the mouth feel of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and then compare it in M&M form, I think it might be a bad idea, yeah.
dan friesen
If you figure out how to make an M&M real dry.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say, right?
dan friesen
I also had, not too long ago, this got missed in the...
Lineage of...
jordan holmes
Okay, in the food news?
dan friesen
Food news.
There's some peeps that have come out.
jordan holmes
New flavor of peeps?
dan friesen
That are Rice Krispie Treat peeps.
jordan holmes
Wait.
dan friesen
Right?
jordan holmes
Okay, hold on.
dan friesen
Confusing as hell.
jordan holmes
Which direction is which?
dan friesen
It's definitely a chicken and the egg thing, because Rice Krispie Treats are basically just marshmallows.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Now this is marshmallow.
jordan holmes
Right.
What is it?
dan friesen
It's fine.
It tastes like a marshmallow.
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait.
jordan holmes
Is the whole thing a marshmallow that is flavored?
dan friesen
It's a peep.
jordan holmes
The whole thing is a regular peep.
dan friesen
It's a peep.
jordan holmes
Okay, so it is not...
You see the bird?
dan friesen
The little bird.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
I thought it was made out of Rice Krispie Treat.
dan friesen
I thought that when I saw the packaging.
It was not.
It's Rice Krispie Treat flavored marshmallow.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
dan friesen
Which is just an Ouroboros of flavor.
It sucks, but I love the idea.
Is hubris.
jordan holmes
What is the flavor of crunch and marshmallow?
You know what I mean, right?
dan friesen
I mean, Rice Krispies is a real subtle flavor.
As much as there is any flavor.
jordan holmes
It's basically marshmallow and crunch, right?
Like, that's what you're there for.
dan friesen
Maybe a little bit of butter.
jordan holmes
Yeah, maybe a little bit of butter in there, right?
But, you know, what are you getting out of a peep?
dan friesen
You know who would love this?
jordan holmes
Who?
dan friesen
The Europeans.
jordan holmes
The European mind would love...
dan friesen
They have a fascination with marshmallows to the level that I think that this would really sell in the European market.
jordan holmes
It could blow minds in the European market.
dan friesen
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is a follow-up in a bright spot from a few months ago.
If you recall, I've been sitting on the floor for a few years.
My wife and I, we had gone and we had purchased a chair.
That chair never came.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It was never going to happen.
It was all a lie.
The chair did not exist.
But it's always nice whenever they send you, like, oh, it's on back order for a couple weeks.
dan friesen
Did you try to get it on Wayfair and then, like, a kid showed up or something?
jordan holmes
I have no idea.
If that had happened, he was intercepted along the way.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
So I'll never know my part in the exchange.
But yeah, at a certain point you go like, oh, the chair doesn't exist, right?
It's not like there's a factory somewhere and there's a chair waiting for me and they're like, how do we get this chair to Jordan?
What are we doing here?
No, it doesn't exist yet.
They're waiting for enough people to order the chair to make the chair and then I'll get the chair.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
I mean, that's one possibility.
jordan holmes
Right.
It is not like there's a truck somewhere that lost a wheel and like, hey, it's going to take us anywhere from 6 to 12 weeks to get this wheel fixed.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Sure.
You're being lied to about the existence of a chair?
jordan holmes
Exactly.
It's not real.
So we quit.
Canceled it.
Ordered one online.
Put it together today.
It works.
dan friesen
Nice.
jordan holmes
It's not as good, but it works.
It is real.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Which makes it far better than the other chair.
dan friesen
One of the qualities that you need in a chair is existence.
jordan holmes
It is very important to me.
dan friesen
Well, congratulations.
jordan holmes
So I got a chair.
dan friesen
I have something to sit on.
jordan holmes
I am no longer on the floor.
dan friesen
Hooray.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
We're going to be talking about January 27th.
Whoa, what a shock.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
2025.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
We are continuing our march through Alex's post-Trump coming back into power at a pace.
That is...
I don't know.
I feel really conflicted about this.
jordan holmes
Glacial?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I feel such a push and pull of like, there's a lot of stuff happening in the world.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
We're a ways back.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But also, I do feel like taking it slow.
We're going to talk about this apparently on every episode.
My self-conscious feelings about...
jordan holmes
I get it.
But I mean, you know, the stuff that's happening isn't going anywhere.
dan friesen
It's true.
jordan holmes
You know?
It's true.
The further away you get from the stuff that's happening, the more you realize, like, oh, well, it's already basically happened anyways.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I worry too much about the ways in which I would sound like you if we covered, like, immediate news.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you don't want to...
You need distance.
You need distance from that.
I can absorb things quick.
dan friesen
I think it's a little bit tough for me, yeah, to not say things that I shouldn't.
jordan holmes
I lose my mind and then I get right back to work.
It's fine.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, we're going to be talking about this episode, which is profoundly stupid.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
dan friesen
It's shockingly stupid in a way that I think...
If I were Alex, I would just be straight up embarrassed to be doing this anymore.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
But before we get into that, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, formulaic objections inspired me to be a court reporter, and all I got was this stupid student debt.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
So sorry.
A new snack for Dan.
Sponch, coconut, strawberry jam, marshmallow, and biscuit.
Enjoy.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
I have no idea what that means.
jordan holmes
It's sponch.
That's what the person wanted to let you know, that there is something called sponch.
dan friesen
And it includes coconut, strawberry jam, marshmallow, and biscuit?
jordan holmes
You bet.
dan friesen
That sounds alright.
I'll try it.
jordan holmes
You should try it.
dan friesen
Next, a cat functioning in a shady groove.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you!
And we have a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
So thank you so much to Ethan, my firstborn little titty baby.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
So we start off on this episode, and like, I mean, Trump's doing a ton of shit.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
There's a lot happening in the world.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's a lot happening.
You don't really get a sense of a lot of it from Alex's show.
You do get, like, sort of vague gestures at stuff, like pointing over here.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so he starts the show talking about how Trump is doing a blitzkrieg.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, it is Monday, January 27th, 2024.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
alex jones
And my job is cut out for me here today.
I gotta tell you.
Things are moving so incredibly quickly.
Trump is 100% devastating the globalists in live time.
They are also throwing every lie and piece of propaganda they can at him.
This is going to be a stunning transmission today.
And I'm going to do my best to cover all of this and move as quickly as I can.
Obviously, I am going to chronicle the amazing things Trump is doing.
And that is hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds.
It's over 500 actions now.
And he set aside a bunch of other executive orders just devastating the globalists with a blitzkrieg attack.
And they can't even respond and are in free fall.
But as I've said hundreds of times, I would expect that they would just escalate the war in Ukraine before he can get a peace deal done.
And that would be done by sending in NATO or UN peacekeepers.
Even if Trump tries to block that, NATO can outvote the United States and go in.
dan friesen
So the conversation that's happening in the real world around this is that if Russia and Ukraine are able to come to an agreement to end the war, part of it needs to be support from Europe for Ukraine.
Putin has invaded the country multiple times, so it's foolish to just imagine that he's going to willingly stick to any kind of peace settlement.
Because everyone knows that Putin's not going to honor the deal, the peace needs to include a threat.
One option is admitting Ukraine to NATO, so if Putin attacks them again, it'll trigger Article 5. Another option is deploying serious security forces that will respond strongly to any potential Russian attacks.
The idea is that a peace deal needs a deterrent that will make Putin less likely to attack again, but as we can see with the way Trump and his administration have behaved, that's not going to happen.
Trump has made clear that the policy he's going to pursue is to blame Ukraine for the war starting and support a peace that's based in pure capitulation to Putin.
One gets the sense that the world superpowers are starting to enter a bit of a new world order where might makes right, and Alex is imagining...
Some kind of globalist moves in there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it would be hard to imagine a five-year plan that included Taiwan being independent.
It would be hard to put that together in my mind's eye if I was reading the tea leaves, if you will.
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
It's hard to imagine almost a five-year plan that involves...
jordan holmes
It's hard to imagine five years.
Let's just put it there.
dan friesen
It's hard to imagine a plan.
jordan holmes
Yes, absolutely.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I mean, I just think that you get this general sense of, like, Trump is doing a lot.
Yeah.
unidentified
But there's very little specifics.
dan friesen
Very little in terms of, like, the what are these executive orders?
Yeah.
unidentified
You're supposed to be a policy.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is interesting to have him be like a theoretical policy wonk, but the gist is like, oh, this is a...
This is a battle.
People are moving their pieces across the board.
They're fighting with machine guns.
But what we're really describing is like Trump wrote a thing that now this school is going to have to restructure its budget over the next 10 years.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, it's like it's maybe not as dramatic an attack on the globalists as you think.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And, like, the government can't acknowledge the existence of trans people.
jordan holmes
Pew, pew, pew!
Got them!
Shooting the...
Oh, the Death Stars Explorer!
dan friesen
Oh, no, the devil.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But there's very little, like, meat, I find.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it'll be comical as we get...
Through this episode.
But for now, you know, Alex has discovered that the EU, they're openly talking about wanting to break up Russia.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I remember about seven years ago, back when George Soros could still talk.
jordan holmes
Aren't we openly talking about it?
alex jones
I haven't seen him give a speech in six months or so.
He's like...
But he could speak well then.
He went on CNN for Zakaria and bragged about how he helped with NATO overthrow the government that was not...
You know, anti-Russian 14 years ago and the rest of it.
Now, their plan was to break up Russia.
And that was the endgame, and Russia knows that, so they're completely surrounded basically now.
And watching NATO and the EU stage coups in countries where the people don't want to go to war with Russia, like Romania.
So we are definitely the bad guys.
I mean, the people running our government have been the bad guys.
You know, Trump's in there trying to stop this now, but we have an alliance with Europe, And they're trying to suck us into full war.
So, just today, it's come out that NATO plans to send in 100,000, quote, peacekeepers.
It's really a military operation.
And then, chillingly, we have the vice president of the unelected EU commission, that's a dictatorship, Kaja Kalas.
saying Russian defeat is not a bad thing, then we can break it up into smaller nations.
Talking about Russia.
So it's just, and she said this on television.
That's how you try to go to war with people.
I mean, you know, I mean, this is just wild.
So that's how they're trying to cut Trump off of the past.
We'll talk about it when we come back.
dan friesen
So we've talked about this a little bit, but Alex doesn't understand the basics of how the EU system works.
The European Commission is a group of commissioners who are not directly elected, but are appointed by the members of the Council of the European Union, which is made up of representatives of the respective elected governments of member states.
Currently, Ursula van der Leyen is the president of the European Commission, and she has six executive vice presidents in the commission with her.
One of them is former Estonian Prime Minister Kaja Kallis, who was part of a panel at the Leonard Mary Conference in May 2024, where she was engaging in a conversation about the dynamics of Western support for Ukraine.
The foreign minister of Ukraine says that if Russia wins, his country stops existing, and then everyone else is going to write books about the lessons that they learned from it all.
In addition to that, he's arguing that it's a disservice to Ukraine itself to view the conflict through the lens of Russia.
Every possible thing the countries can do to aid Ukraine is seen as a potential provocation to Russia, and that's costing time and lives.
A lot of this conversation is in the context of the world being afraid of how the rules-based world is going to look in the case that Russia wins.
In response to all of this, Kalas brings up the idea that the West isn't supporting Ukraine enough, not only because of a fear of Russian escalation, but also because of a fear of what happens if Russia loses.
She brings up the collapse of the Soviet Union in the 90s and how people were worried that that was going to be a bad thing and it turned out to be a positive.
She's making the point that the current state of Russia might not be that different and it could break up into multiple more stable states.
I'm not sure I fully agree with her perspective, but she wasn't making the point that Alex and the right wing media have claimed she was and Alex is pretending this was something that she just said, not something from nine months ago.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, I...
jordan holmes
I get...
I don't get the angle.
That Alex is bringing to it.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, I don't understand what exactly the bringing her into this does for, like...
We're pro-Russia.
Alex is pro-Russia taking over, right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Right, so then what is the...
What's the problem here?
dan friesen
He's not pro-Europe, and he doesn't want Russia to be broken up.
Right.
jordan holmes
Is that like making fun of her?
Is that what he's doing?
He's more like, look at how stupid this lady is for saying that she could even break up Russia.
dan friesen
Russia's the motherland.
I think the angle that he's trying to take with it is like this is a direct baiting Russia into a nuclear war.
They're trying to provoke them through this conversation.
And he deprives...
All of the context of the conversation.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The fact that it was nine months ago, where it happened, what the discussion was around this when she said it.
Right.
It's just he's trying to make Europe and us all bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
We are the aggressors in the situation in order to justify what he wants, which is Putin taking over.
Right.
jordan holmes
I guess I just wind up skipping over it because it's been multiple instances of, well, they've done the thing that's going to provoke the nuclear war, and they did it, and then we...
Still not, still going.
dan friesen
Yeah, and that's a point that the foreign minister in Ukraine is making in that conversation from nine months ago, which is like...
jordan holmes
Oh, we can't send him planes.
We can't send him planes.
Six months later, well, we can send him planes.
dan friesen
Right, or they do end up sending a plane or something like that, and it doesn't lead to the giant escalation that everyone fears Russia is going to do.
Yeah.
Again, I'm not sure I fully agree with taking all threats lightly, but this guy's perspective is...
There's a fairness to it.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
There's a point to it that all of this resistance to help based on fear has not been seen to be correct.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Those threats have not been followed through on.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Very much a Syrian red line, if you will.
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex, he's rated Trump's performance a few times.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's been probably too high.
dan friesen
200 out of 100.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
20 out of 10. That's too many.
17 holes in one and one two-stroke hole on a golf course.
jordan holmes
Right, which is still somehow not whatever.
dan friesen
Because of Sam Altman.
jordan holmes
Whatever.
dan friesen
So Alex gives another rating.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It's just as good.
jordan holmes
Is it?
alex jones
We are now into day seven of the new historic administration of the 47th president of the United States of America, Donald John Trump.
And if I had to give him a score between one and a hundred, For devastating, lightning constitutional action just dismantling the bureaucracy and the globalist demoralization, bankruptcy, de-industrialization plan, I would have to give him about a 200.
I mean, it is way quicker, more precision, hitting on all cylinders.
It's indescribable.
It's over 500 actions now.
And I'm going to hit hundreds of them today.
jordan holmes
I strongly doubt that.
alex jones
How it's being done.
I mean, I could take just one action, the border, and national sovereignty, and deporting people and how he's handling that and countries trying to buck it.
And then, just as I said with General Flynn and Tahoma and Flynn talked to him and others, I said, you've got to go after the human trafficking first, and then you've got to bring news crews.
With your ICE representatives as the host and show the child molesters and show the criminals at point-blank range something they really never did before.
And they've got Chris Hansen and Dr. Phil and, I mean, hundreds of them out there with them busting the pedophiles and the killers and the...
This guy drunk drove and killed a lady.
I mean, I can't even keep track of that.
And they're doing it perfectly.
I mean, I'm not exaggerating.
I've already seen 100-plus videos in just the last 48 hours of all these ICE officers that are better than news anchors at night.
And then you've got Dr. Phil and Chris Hansen and all these other people.
I mean, and you've got Homan out there.
I mean, and this guy's, I get up at 6 a.m., he's live on TV.
I go to bed at midnight, he's live on TV.
I mean, they are bringing it, baby.
dan friesen
Baby!
jordan holmes
Bringing what?
dan friesen
It!
What is it?
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Based on literally everything Alex has ever said before, you should expect him to view the use of celebrity cameos and federal agents creating media as horrifying state propaganda.
I get that he agrees with the terrorizing and rounding up of immigrants, and he justifies that unjustifiable position by pretending that all the people getting caught up by ICE are pedophiles and hardened criminals.
But he really shouldn't be this stupid.
Even if he agrees with the message of all this, everything his career has been built on should lead him to be super suspicious of this kind of a federal government media blitz.
His show is called InfoWars, you dumb fuck.
He's the most suspicious person in the world when he wants to be.
Every mass shooting has to be a false flag until proven otherwise.
Every movie and TV show is secret predictive programming that only he's smart enough to decode.
But here you have what can only be described as the most brazen level of PR stunt type actions being made by a federal agency and he has no concern that it might not be on the up and up?
What the fuck?
So the Guardian reported on Dr. Phil's thing, saying, quote, the DV personality Dr. Phil joined the U.S. border czar Tom Homan in a choreographed immigration raid in Chicago.
Choreographed, you say?
Alex, do you have any thoughts about that?
Do you have any thoughts about this?
jordan holmes
So it was all put together for the media.
dan friesen
I'm not sure, but it definitely was reported as choreographed by the Guardian.
jordan holmes
So it's literally a false flag.
dan friesen
Might be.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So Chris Hansen has been shifting his shtick a little bit for a while, catering to the anti-immigrant crowd, using his sting tactics to catch alleged migrant criminals.
This isn't really a new thing that he's been doing, but the Trump administration is certainly making use of it in order to build their PR campaign.
jordan holmes
He's been doing what?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That To Catch a Predator guy now has a new show that's just like To Catch an Immigrant?
dan friesen
No, I don't.
jordan holmes
Or is he doing it freelance?
Is he doing it freelance?
dan friesen
I don't know all of the dynamics, but I know that his show did get canceled eventually, or at some point.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
And I know that he's been continuing to do Sting-type stuff online.
jordan holmes
No, you can't do that.
dan friesen
Apparently you can.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Alright!
I think that he's still doing a fair amount of trying to catch perverts and stuff, but there has been a playing up of immigrants to cater to the Trump audience.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
So I don't know if he's doing a full-on show of just catching immigrants or...
Just catching people and then playing into, like, oh, it's another immigrant.
jordan holmes
It's probably, yeah, yeah, great.
dan friesen
Good stuff.
Whatever the case, Alex should be deeply worried about this.
Not because of a disagreement with the ends, but because of a fundamental disagreement about the means being used to achieve them.
ICE doing this level of media distracting should be a clear sign to him that they're up to something.
But it's not.
jordan holmes
Nah.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Now, of all the things which is really funny is that this would be such a great time to compare it to a sci-fi movie called Starship Troopers.
Be a great time for it.
Be perfect time for you to pull out a movie reference to compare said current thing happening with said movie.
It'd be a great time for it.
And I know he's seen that movie.
dan friesen
He has.
And he's probably read a lot of Heinlein.
jordan holmes
I bet he has.
He's probably not making that connection.
dan friesen
I will tell you that we get a Dune reference later.
But I'm not sure there's any Starship Troopers.
jordan holmes
I like the idea of just being proud of 500 actions.
He's already done over 500 actions.
Doesn't that beg you to keep score?
dan friesen
Well, also, like, it's been, this is a week, right?
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
It's literally impossible that he could have mindfully done 500 important things.
jordan holmes
100%!
dan friesen
Other people are feeding him things to sign off on and shit.
He has no idea what he's doing.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
But, like, if you're a vote, like, this is what I don't understand about us as voting people.
Like, if somebody says, oh, they've done 500 things, then shouldn't we all compare it to, like, the list of the five things most of us want taken care of?
You've done 500?
Why not do these five that all of us want?
All of us want these five things, and it's not involved in the 500 you've done at all?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
Well, those are hard.
jordan holmes
Fair point.
dan friesen
Yeah, and we gotta get Kash Patel in before we get the JFK files unsealed.
jordan holmes
Fair point.
Listen, you've won me over.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
Elon had a reason why we didn't do those things that you wanted done, but I can't remember exactly.
You'll have to ask him.
jordan holmes
I bet it was great.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I bet it was great.
I'll just trust you.
dan friesen
So, there have been some protests, like blocking traffic and shit over immigration policy issues.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And Alex touches on this briefly.
alex jones
And that's one issue.
I spent almost the whole show last night, Sunday nights, there's only two hours, I spent an hour and 45 minutes on Trump's devastating actions on the border alone.
And I have three giant, incredible stacks today.
Ugh.
And the illegal aliens blocking roads and rioting in Dallas and screaming F America and waving their foreign flags and then lying.
dan friesen
So this is a very important little glimpse here.
Alex says that illegal immigrants are blocking roads and protesting, but that's not really true.
People of all sorts of immigration status are blocking roads and protesting Trump's actions, but Alex has branded them all as non-citizens.
He's doing this in order to preemptively justify violent or law enforcement action against protesters who disagree with Trump.
He's villainized a particular community, in this case immigrants, and branded them all as illegal, hardened criminals who are a threat to the United States.
Now that demonization is free to be applied to anyone who protests on behalf of immigrant rights.
Alex 100% does not believe in freedom of speech in any sense.
His understanding of free speech is just, I get to say what I want without consequences, and it literally doesn't go any further than that.
And it doesn't even apply to everyone.
Like, other people have consequences for their speech, it's just me.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So shitty.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, I remember when this happened the last time.
Just right after we had started the show and I got back from London, I landed in O 'Hare on the night of the immigrant lawyers protesting and all of them being handcuffed at the airport.
Just being in that situation again where it's like, what are we doing?
We're handcuffing immigration lawyers?
For?
Crime?
Crime?
Are they doing crimes?
Is that what we're doing here?
dan friesen
According to a certain interpretation, perhaps.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Maybe that's not good.
dan friesen
One of the things that Trump, you know, you said there's five things we would like people to do.
jordan holmes
Most people have a list of five things, and for most people, I would say the vast majority of people, it's very similar.
dan friesen
Is your top five, does it include getting rid of birthright citizenship?
jordan holmes
It would not be in my top five.
dan friesen
Me neither.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it's cool for Alex.
And he explains how it's cool with the founders.
jordan holmes
Nice.
alex jones
And then, of course, I've mentioned this on air, but I thought I'd actually give you the documents.
Just a little microcosm.
You see the corporate media going, well, you know, Trump is unconstitutional to deport someone who's natural born.
Yeah, even if their parents are illegal, if they're born there, if your mom can get across the border and two minutes later have a baby in the back of an ambulance or in a cornfield.
That's happened a lot in Texas.
Then your child instantly is a citizen.
You can stay and your whole family can come here and everything's paid for.
I have the 14th Amendment.
I have all the precedent.
jordan holmes
I stole it!
alex jones
It's a lie.
The 14th Amendment were for newly freed slaves to obviously make their children as well.
jordan holmes
Idiots.
So stupid.
alex jones
And that's what it says.
And I have the court rulings going back to the Civil War and six or seven after it.
But they just say, oh, it's not true.
Trump's out of control.
I saw CNN this morning.
We've got the clip saying he's a fascist.
He's a dictator.
And it is 100% cut and dry.
You go, well, then why have they been giving him citizenship?
Because the State Department, not with the law, Not even the regulation as a policy that was not even announced.
And I got the record here.
Big stack just on this.
Do an hour on this.
LBJ just changed the policy and said if anybody born here, period, is a citizen.
So tens of thousands of rich Chinese can fly here each year alone.
jordan holmes
Is that what he said?
alex jones
Stay in a hotel two weeks.
Go have the baby.
Baby's a citizen, they don't have the welfare, and they even go back to China and then collect the welfare.
In many cases, stay here.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Trump's all-out assault on democracy is frightening.
And the headlines are everywhere, and they just hope the public's ignorant and don't understand that what he's doing is just executing the American system.
dan friesen
So you might notice that Alex says that he's got all this case law and evidence to support his claim that birthright citizenship isn't real, but then, in that discussion, he gives zero specifics.
There's like vague references to the Civil War and LBJ, but there's nothing concrete.
It's all just a bunch of wild gesturing that's supposed to convince you that he knows what he's talking about, and you'd be dumb if you want to ask him for clarifications on it.
Why would you even doubt?
He knows everything.
So in 1868, the Supreme Court heard the case of U.S. versus Wong Kim Ark.
Ark was a 21-year-old who was born in San Francisco to Chinese national parents.
He visited China and then was refused entry when he tried to come back to the U.S. It was disputed whether or not he was a citizen, and the court ruled 6-2 that because he was born in the United States and his parents were not employed by the state of China, that he was automatically a citizen.
This established the basis for birthright citizenship.
It was the argument of the dissenting justices that the 14th Amendment was made to convert citizenship on freed people.
That's the argument that Alex is making here, which was litigated and lost in 1868 in the Supreme Court.
Alex is just making failed legal arguments.
That have already been decided by the Supreme Court and saying that this is case law.
jordan holmes
I appreciate that.
I appreciate that.
This is an interesting case for me.
Pun intended.
Because even if he had case law, I still wouldn't care.
It should be here.
You know, like, even if the Supreme Court case, which it very obviously could have gone either way when that Supreme Court, like, it's an entirely random thing that happened.
If it had happened during a different Supreme Court term, then we wouldn't have birthright citizenship today.
dan friesen
It's entirely possible.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but it's like, well, I don't care if there is a case law that supports that.
It should still be a thing.
dan friesen
I get what you're saying, and I don't disagree with you, but that argument is based on what should be, as opposed to the terms that...
Alex's setting, which is I have all this case law and just conveniently ignoring the Supreme Court decision.
He's pretending that it was just like the State Department just wrote something down one day and now everyone's a citizen.
jordan holmes
I just like the idea that you think by having the case law that influences whether or not birthright citizenship is real.
You know what I mean?
dan friesen
Well...
It can definitely impact whether it's real, in a sense, but it doesn't impact whether or not you believe it's right.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And that's...
Fine.
That's a disagreement people can have.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's just a strange one to be so confident.
Ha ha ha, see, the racist Supreme Court said it's okay for me to discriminate.
And then come to me with that being like, well, I guess you're right, sir.
I guess it's okay.
dan friesen
You know, I mean, I don't imagine that the Supreme Court in 1868 was like fully woke or anything.
jordan holmes
Well, it was a different time.
dan friesen
And they still ruled that if you're born here, you're a citizen.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So, anyway, Alex is off on a limb here with those two justices from 1868.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
I'm happy for him.
So, you got, like, so much happening in the world.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So much.
Alex's number one story has got to be something meaty.
jordan holmes
It has to be.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
There's so much going on in the world.
We could just stay on Russia and Ukraine, I'm sure.
dan friesen
We kind of do.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
alex jones
And then I'm not even going to mention all the other stunningly insane, incredible things I've got here.
Because I have to hit the number one story.
The number one development.
The number one crisis.
The number one emergency that threatens not just us taking our country back, but threatens life on the surface of this planet.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Now, I have said many times, because it's escalating, that this is the worst developments Yet, in the three-year escalation of the war in Ukraine, because it was going on as a proxy war, shadow war, hybrid war before, that's admitted.
And that NATO started it now almost 15 years ago.
I mean, I can play the clips to Soros, played it many times, saying the West did this, ha ha ha.
But I have a new clip of the vice president of the unelected EU Commission, another one of these globalist women.
Bo, it's okay if she wants World War III.
She's a cute little blonde.
Like, van der Leyen.
Well, her vice president just went on international TV and said, yeah, yeah, we're going to defeat Russia, we're going to invade Russia, and we're going to break it up in pieces.
Now, this woman, I guarantee you to know how to load a revolver, much less a Glock.
I guarantee you she doesn't understand about hypersonic missiles.
Those are two different things.
She doesn't know about drugs.
She doesn't know about chemical weapons.
She doesn't understand any of this.
dan friesen
There's so much shit happening in the world.
And Alex's number one story is a clip he's pretending is recent, but he doesn't realize is nine months old.
He clearly just saw someone post this on Twitter and he's making up all the surrounding context on it to report to his audience so it fits the narrative.
These kinds of non-stories are perfect for Alex because they're largely irrelevant, but he can sensationalize them enough to justify why he's not covering anything real.
You can see how a lot of this too is just dripping in Alex's contempt for women.
It's totally fine to have criticisms of Callis, but the way that Alex is talking, that has nothing to do with her as a person.
It's all attacking her based on her being a woman.
I'm not sure that she knows much about guns, but I'm sure she understands a fair amount of shit about war, considering she was the Prime Minister of Estonia and lived in the country in 1991 when the Soviet Union collapsed.
Like, this is ridiculous.
There's so much misogyny that's just powering this.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
She doesn't know anything about loading a revolver?
Okay, I guess you know something about that, so you can come at that with an intention.
She doesn't know anything about chemical weapons?
What the fuck do you know about chemical weapons?
alex jones
Everything.
jordan holmes
No, you do not!
dan friesen
COVID was a bioweapon.
It was created in order to maybe be race-specific, but maybe not.
You know what?
jordan holmes
Misogyny justified.
dan friesen
Yeah, totally.
It's so interesting because I think that you can make a lot of...
Fairly decent complaints about anyone who's a member of the EU commission, the European commission.
jordan holmes
If you want to pitch at any government anywhere for anything, you're probably right.
dan friesen
Yeah, and there's a way to do that.
And just, it's so fascinating the way that Alex's complaints and criticism is just like, I hate this woman.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I hate her.
I hate the femininity.
I resent that she's in a position of power.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because it's ultimately an expression of true laziness.
Like, I know I could hate you for a good reason.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
But that's hard.
So I'm just going to be a piece of shit.
dan friesen
It's like Alex screaming about how Brian Stelter smiles.
You know, it's like, go fuck yourself, man.
jordan holmes
Find a real reason.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Well, there's one possible reason.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
And that's that everyone in the EU Commission, the European Commission, they're all princelings.
jordan holmes
They're all princelings.
dan friesen
Yes, they're all royalty.
jordan holmes
Okay, I'm learning.
alex jones
And if you look at the arrogance of the EU Commission, I mean, they're all princelings and princesses.
If you look at them, almost every one of them is in a direct royal family that stepped down in the last 20 to 50 years in different countries in Europe, but still owns it all and still has all the titles.
They just act like, oh, we don't run anything anymore, like in Canada.
Oh, Trudeau's going to be voted out by the Parliament?
The governor general, under the orders of King Charles, dissolves it and leaves Trudeau in.
And I've got more examples of that here today.
Denmark, Greenland, you heard, was independent in its own country.
But then Trump said, well, I'm going to buy it.
And now Denmark said, sorry, we still own it.
You can't have it.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
alex jones
Trump looked at the contracts and he said, well...
And Denmark sent him the full contract of the article right here and said, actually, it's still owned by the head of the Global Royal Society, and that's King Charles, so you can't have it.
jordan holmes
Excuse me?
alex jones
And King Charles just put out his little directive.
I'll show it to you later that, yeah, I actually own Denmark.
jordan holmes
Oh!
I'm sorry?
dan friesen
This is...
jordan holmes
Tell me about this!
dan friesen
The contract?
jordan holmes
I want to know about the secret contract.
dan friesen
Trump looked over the contract.
jordan holmes
That now England also owns Denmark and through Denmark owns Greenland.
dan friesen
Well, but it's not England.
It's Dracula.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
So this whole argument about Russia being the good party in the war for Alex, it hinges on the claim that Russia is not expansionist, whereas the globalists are.
That's a huge part of his argument, which is wrong.
But it also seems like a dumb argument for him to say that Trump should be able to buy a country, given his concern about colonial expansion.
But who gives a shit?
jordan holmes
What are you going to do?
dan friesen
So Alex says that all the EU commissioners are princelings and princesses, but that's not true.
There are 27 commissioners who are part of the current commission, and I'd be curious who Alex is actually talking about.
I don't know who he's talking about.
jordan holmes
I would be very curious, too.
dan friesen
And I would like to challenge that point and see who he says.
The only specific he's ever given about these royals is like Herman von Rumpi, who wasn't part of the European commission, he's retired, and he wasn't given the title of count until after his career had ended.
Ironically, the closest I think Alex could come to this royalty claim is Kachakalas, who he's particularly mad about on this episode because of a nine-month-old clip that he just saw.
She isn't royalty, but her father was the chief of the Bank of Estonia, then prime minister, and then served in the European Commission for ten years.
It's not the same thing as nobility necessarily, but she's a second-generation European commissioner, and I could see Alex taking issue with that.
He could play around with that if he wants.
jordan holmes
That's nouveau riche.
Sure.
dan friesen
But he could probably use that as, like, justification for this dumb shit he's saying.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
And I think it wouldn't work, but I'm curious who he's talking about.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I have no idea what he's talking about, the fine print and the contract of who can buy Greenland, though.
It honestly just sounds really stupid and childish, but whatever.
jordan holmes
Like, he understands that if we do buy Greenland, right, then, ostensibly, it would eventually become a state.
Thereby making more citizens, which is what he's against.
dan friesen
Well, it would certainly impact representation and house seats.
jordan holmes
They would have to vote.
dan friesen
You'd think.
jordan holmes
It's not like they'd become a protectorate or something.
dan friesen
Maybe they would.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
In what manner?
Are we sending ships to protect them from a potential English-led invasion?
dan friesen
Why not?
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Fine.
dan friesen
Dracula's gonna come and try and take it back.
jordan holmes
I just don't think people are really thinking about what they're actually thinking about.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't find this to be serious.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
All that serious.
jordan holmes
Very crazy.
dan friesen
So the Romanian elections are hot on Alex's mind.
jordan holmes
Still going or still not going?
dan friesen
Happening in May.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But Alex has a take.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And they just staged a coup and canceled the election in Romania.
So...
You have these unelected royals, a bunch of princesses now.
They're like, we're modern.
We don't just have old drunk kings like Von Rupi heading it for 20 years, which is drunk on TV constantly, falling down and stuff, grabbing women's breasts on television.
jordan holmes
Throwing hatchets.
alex jones
Now we've got these arrogant princesses.
You can pull them up in little photos, family photos of wearing their damn crowns.
So, oh, the European court rejects Romanian far-right presidential candidate election appeal.
Oh, he's a candidate because they never let him officially get certified.
Oh, the EU's not a tyranny like Elon Musk said.
It's not a threat to the world.
It's just starting nuclear war.
We're already in World War III.
We're in World War III.
I said it three months ago.
unidentified
Fifteen years ago, seven years ago, eight years ago, nine years ago.
alex jones
Head of the British military, the Russians, they all went, yeah, it's World War III, it's here.
The Polish president, yeah, we're in World War III.
jordan holmes
Totes, bro.
alex jones
The only question is, will it go nuclear?
jordan holmes
No.
alex jones
Yeah, Trump's dismantling him.
The whole global system's collapsing.
He just signed three more executive orders today banning central bank digital currency.
He's already signed one that had...
A lot of the provisions in there, but these are specifics.
And so what are they going to do?
Well, they're going to start a giant war.
dan friesen
I certainly feel like I understand the specifics of that central bank digital currency thing.
jordan holmes
The specifics have been made clear.
That's what's great about it.
dan friesen
I feel educated.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So every time I've heard Alex discuss the issue of the Romanian elections, I've never heard him bring up that the election's been rescheduled for May.
He just completely ignores that, I guess probably because it would make this coup storyline a little harder for him to tell.
The Romanian courts ruled to annul the results of the first round of the 2024 election, not the EU.
The headline that Alex is reading is being intentionally misreported.
What happened is that Caelan Georgescu appealed the court's decision to the European Court of Human Rights, who rejected the appeal with a unanimous vote.
He was requesting that the court provide an urgent injunction, which they only do when there's good reason to believe that the person making the request would face immediate and irreparable harm if they didn't step in.
The court believed that this was not the case here, mostly because the rerun of the election's already been scheduled.
Alex is reporting on this manipulatively because he wants the audience to think that the EU canceled the election and then denied Georgescu's appeal of that decision.
In the real world, the Romanian court acted in terms of the election, and Georgescu's request for a severe reaction from the European court of Human Rights was denied because the thing they probably would do to remedy this situation was already being done.
Yeah.
unidentified
So I feel educated once again.
dan friesen
Alex is really...
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I do get it from Alex's point of view, though, to not complicate things like that.
Because it is very...
I would even go so far as to say there's something very un-American about scheduling a redo, like a rational group of people.
Like, listen.
Buddy, doesn't matter if they stole it.
He's the president now.
Move on.
It's eight years later.
You know, that's just America.
That's how we do it.
Supreme Court says Florida goes for Bush.
Done.
Move on.
Everybody keep going.
Roll!
Roll!
Like that kind of thing.
So I imagine it would be hard to still maintain any kind of narrative that isn't just inevitably deflating.
You know, like if we had the election and it was just a tie and we had to do another election, everybody would fucking lose their shit and just like, fuck.
Americans can't handle that shit.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Romanians are apparently responsible enough to be able to do it.
So I wish them all the best.
dan friesen
And that's why Dracula owns Greenland.
jordan holmes
It makes sense!
dan friesen
Because Transylvania is in Romania.
jordan holmes
See, this is education!
Finally the details have been made clear.
dan friesen
I just think that Alex is...
I mean, it's very convenient the way he ignores shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, one of my favorite things, as long-time listeners will know, is Alex using fake Thomas Jefferson quotes.
jordan holmes
Always.
Always great.
He said so much shit.
dan friesen
Well, but here is my responsibility.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And that is Alex uses a fairly close Thomas Jefferson quote.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So I can't just ignore that when he does it.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
alex jones
I'd love to get up here and give you all the great news and all the good things happening, and I will.
And go through the facts and show you the documents when I make a claim on things like birthright citizenship not being what you think it is, what you've been told it is.
And so many other great little factoids, because a knowledgeable, informed public is what it takes to have a free, open society, as Thomas Jefferson said.
Educate the people on their rights, freedoms, and history, and tyranny and tyrants will fade like fog at dawn, to paraphrase him.
Basically the quote.
I think I messed up part of it.
He said phantoms at dawn, but he means fog.
The phantoms of fog.
jordan holmes
Are you punching up, TJ?
alex jones
You know, fog disappears when the sun comes out.
That's an informed public.
Not informed on DEI.
Not informed on there's no X and Y chromosomes.
Not informed about how great communism works.
Not misinformed.
Not dumbed down.
But really knowing how things work.
Because if you knew history, and people ask why I know so much, it's fascinating.
You just want to learn more and more.
Like, there's a bunch of crazy...
Thousand-year-old dynasty from Transylvania running the EU and the UK and Canada and Australia and New Zealand and Greenland.
jordan holmes
That sounds hard to believe.
alex jones
They've infiltrated our government.
They want World War III and they're a bunch of pedophile devil worshippers.
dan friesen
They could turn into bats.
alex jones
They got a bunch of crazy princesses prancing around talking about how they're going to arrest Elon Musk for his speech and how they're canceling elections.
And now they're going to break up Russia and giggling about it on TV?
Oh, you think the Russians watch that and don't go, yeah, okay, let's get ready, boys.
And you notice Putin in his speech that says, we've been at war for a thousand years with the Anglo-Americans and you will never defeat us.
When I say American, my listeners, I see it on X, I'll go, oh, you don't like white people, huh?
It has nothing to do with white people.
The Russians are white, too.
dan friesen
Interesting that that's the criticism that you feel the need to respond to.
jordan holmes
Fucking hell.
dan friesen
So it's actually pretty close there to a Jefferson quote.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
In 1816, he said, quote, Enlighten the people generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like evil spirits at the dawn of day.
Alex is a little bit off, but it's close enough as far as I'm concerned.
That understanding of history is a crazy fantasy, though.
I guess learning would be a lot more fun if you just allowed everything that you learned to be filtered into a sci-fi action movie that you're pretending to live in and be the protagonist of.
One of the difficulties about real education and learning is that it's challenging, and by creating this fantasy world overlay, Alex has removed the possibility of challenge from his learning process.
This is appealing because it makes taking in new information always feel good.
For example, evidence that Trump is doing unconstitutional things should make Alex reflect and question whether he was wrong to support Trump to begin with, but Alex has removed challenge from his life.
Trump and Elon are unquestionably good because they're fighting the sci-fi Christian devil that he imagines he's fighting himself, so instead of being challenged by their actions, Alex rationalizes.
They're doing the things that look fundamentally against my worldview, which is just proof of how diabolical the enemy is.
These guys have to break the system in order to uphold it, which is what they're being forced to do by the devil.
This is how Alex has engaged with learning.
And when you do this, you aren't actually learning anything.
You're expanding what trivia you have in your head, maybe, but you don't ever have to process what you're taking in.
It's a path that looks like a shortcut, but it's actually a shortcut to nowhere.
Because in the end, this is the kind of shit that you think is real.
It's just Dracula.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's probably more fun than learning.
jordan holmes
It is undeniably more attractive at this point in time from where I'm sitting.
Just thinking about all the stuff that I've learned and then the stuff that Alex has learned.
The stuff that he's learned seems to make him a lot happier than the stuff that I've learned about America.
So maybe it's on me.
Maybe I've just been learning the wrong stuff.
Clearly.
dan friesen
Have you tried reading sci-fi?
And pretending it's real.
jordan holmes
I have tried pretending it's real.
You're right.
It's the second step.
Everywhere is just one big homogenous place in constant warfare with another planet that is also a homogenous place.
That makes a lot more sense.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, you know, the Russians, they call us the Anglo-American.
Why do they do that?
Because Dune.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
alex jones
And so the Russians aren't idiots.
They address it.
Just like in the movie Dune, and Frank Herbert based that on royal families and European history.
He said that in interviews.
We have different houses battling each other.
House Harkonnen, House Etrechtes feuding.
Well, that's literally how the Russians go.
We address the Anglo-Americans.
It was the Anglo-Saxons, now it's the Anglo-Americans.
Because we're part of the empire now.
jordan holmes
Thanks for explaining.
alex jones
You have been trying to defeat us for a thousand years.
You will not.
And we have nuclear weapons.
Stop.
And the Anglo-Americans are encircling Russia right now.
And then they got this witch queen on television saying, ha ha ha, we're going to not just defeat Russia and Ukraine, we're going to break up Russia.
Would you put up with that as an American?
dan friesen
So I feel like this is a really good example of how most of Alex's content relies on him finding something on Twitter and then just getting mad about it.
The context is unimportant.
The age of the clip is unimportant.
It's just critical that he be able to use the thing he saw on social media as a launching pad to get in some dumb rants about how sci-fi movies are real.
And I think I wouldn't be too surprised if Putin were talking about wanting the U.S. to break up into pieces.
I wouldn't be surprised.
At all?
jordan holmes
I mean, frankly, I'm surprised we're not talking about wanting to break America up into pieces.
dan friesen
I feel like Alex and his guests have discussed that idea for the last 30 years, like wanting states to secede and shit.
jordan holmes
Kind of a big deal for them.
dan friesen
What kind of moral high ground does he think he's claiming here?
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
This is ridiculous.
jordan holmes
No idea.
dan friesen
He talks about, I guess, you know what, here's the issue.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Going back in the day...
Alex had such a complicated relationship with the Texas independence movement.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because the people were annoying.
jordan holmes
Right.
But he was also white.
dan friesen
He believed that Texas is its own country and it has the right to secede.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But he hated the people who were in that movement.
jordan holmes
They're really annoying.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
In his defense, they are really annoying.
dan friesen
I think they just didn't like him.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, in their defense, Alex is a piece of shit.
I think everybody's behaving appropriately in this situation.
I think everybody has got a good point of view, a good head on their shoulders.
You shouldn't like those people.
You shouldn't like Alex.
Everybody's doing great.
dan friesen
So the top story is that Alex found this clip of one of the vice presidents of the European Commission.
jordan holmes
Right.
That's the top story.
dan friesen
Top story.
jordan holmes
Nine months ago.
dan friesen
Bullshit.
jordan holmes
It's like...
We gotta update the boy who cried wolf.
Because that's for people who don't have fucking technology.
You idiots.
Of course the boy who cried wolf does that shit and everybody knows it because they can't see a wolf.
Now we're in 2025.
dan friesen
The boy who fake cried about memes.
jordan holmes
Took a picture of a wolf from a thousand yards away and said, oh, it's right here.
The boy who cried.
There's a TikTok of the wolf.
The boy who cried.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's all bullshit, man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But you can see the wolf.
And that's the trick.
dan friesen
So when I said that it's bullshit, that's not quite what I meant.
jordan holmes
Sorry.
dan friesen
I meant that there's actually a different top story.
jordan holmes
Okay, fair enough.
dan friesen
And it's...
Elon tweeting something.
jordan holmes
God damn it!
dan friesen
And it's not even...
jordan holmes
There's a picture of the wolf!
dan friesen
Elon can tweet all kinds of crazy dumb shit about what his fake government efficiency office is doing.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And all that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's not even this.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
The top story is, oh my god, you're never going to believe this.
jordan holmes
I'm probably not.
alex jones
In the third hour, we're having former Wall Street Journal journalist and top journalist on Secret Space Program.
And more to talk about Elon discovering today, or late last night at Trended Top of X, that Wernher von Braun, the greatest rocket scientist in history, the progenitor of the U.S. space program, and of course former top head of Hitler's program, the inventor of the space shuttle, all of it.
Wrote a book about Mars colonization with the man that launched the Mars colonization being named Elon.
Many years before Elon Musk was born.
jordan holmes
I hate all of them.
alex jones
And Elon's pretty blown away by that.
I'm surprised he didn't know about that.
We've covered it for many years.
dan friesen
So Wernher von Braun wrote a book called Project Mars, A Technical Tale.
In the book, we do go to Mars, but the person who got us there is not named Elon.
The connection is that there's a leader of the government that's on Mars that's called the Elon.
jordan holmes
Right.
Gotcha.
dan friesen
Elon's dad, Errol Musk, was a real piece of shit and probably a Nazi.
In a 2022 interview, he literally said that he named his son Elon because he's read von Braun's book, and he named him after the title of the Mars Leader.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
This isn't prophecy, and anyone pretending there's a meaning to this past Elon's dad naming him after a character in a Nazi book is a fraud and a dipshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But this is what Alex is really excited about.
Elon Musk has discovered that Werner von Braun wrote this book before he was born that has this character in it.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
We're getting Wacky Wednesday up in this bitch.
jordan holmes
I've always wondered, because I'm a person who's passingly aware of movies from the past, and that's where I also know about history.
I wondered about, like...
You know, you're with one of the boy kings, or you're with one of the weird emperors of Rome, or you're with any one of those people, and you're walking around with them, and you're listening to them just say all this shit, all this absolute nonsense, but you are also surrounded by, like, gigantic pots that you could smash over their head.
And you just keep walking.
You know, like, when I stop and think about that, I'm like, there are people around Elon right now who are just like, let's let this keep going.
Amazing!
dan friesen
It is shocking.
jordan holmes
Amazing!
dan friesen
It's shocking on some level.
What I find more shocking is the level of detachment that Alex has while forcing godhood upon Musk.
He has no reason to do this.
That we can tell.
jordan holmes
All the reasons in the world to not do it.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
It is like some sort of weird addictive force.
It's like a magnetism pulling him against all wills.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's really, really counter to pretty much everything his career is supposed to be built on.
And it's so embarrassing.
But there's another level of how embarrassing this is, which is like...
If you hear that Wernher von Braun wrote a book and there's a character, the Elon, in it, and then Elon Musk is a rocket guy, you ask yourself, what's the explanation for this?
Is there a simple explanation for this?
jordan holmes
God.
dan friesen
And when there's not a simple explanation for it, you start looking for complicated ones, like God.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If there's a simple explanation, like...
Musk's dad read this book and named his son after this.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Then I think pretending that there's a more complicated explanation is really embarrassing.
jordan holmes
You're complicating things by adding that someone read a book.
Very complicated.
Simple.
dan friesen
For Alex.
jordan holmes
God did it.
dan friesen
Okay.
I find this need to make a story out of something that's very simple and explainable so pathetic.
jordan holmes
I think this is going to be part of my briefcase that is gathering evidence for Alex having made a literal deal with the devil who has convinced him that it is God.
dan friesen
Might as well at this point.
jordan holmes
It makes sense.
You would have to abase yourself in the most worst possible way in order to appease the devil.
This seems right.
dan friesen
It's really sad.
jordan holmes
It's bad.
dan friesen
So, Werner von Braun.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
He wrote this book.
jordan holmes
Nazi.
Well, but also, I'm not sure why I need any but-alsos, but okay.
dan friesen
Psychic.
alex jones
I've got some next-level information for you on Werner Von Braun.
unidentified
And...
alex jones
Because that's not just a coincidence.
I mean, it's not just some science fiction writer that wrote a science fiction book and then titled it...
The way he did Project Mars, a technical manual, and then now who is in charge globally just by his actions and sheer will?
Elon Musk.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
Well, it turns out I happen to know a little bit about Wernher von Braun.
And Wernher von Braun was a...
Extremely psychic individual, you remote viewer.
dan friesen
Oh, wow.
So if you had a simple explanation like Musk's dad read that book, then this seems stupid.
This seems really stupid, right?
jordan holmes
It does feel like you are putting a hat on top of a hat, on top of a very large cowboy hat.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You're inventing psychicness in order to explain something that is very easily explainable.
jordan holmes
Super already explained.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Didn't need to add psychic powers on top of that.
dan friesen
No, but it's fun.
jordan holmes
How did the milk go bad?
You left it outside of the refrigerator.
Ah, but also a wizard.
Didn't need it.
Already figured it out.
Mystery already solved.
dan friesen
But it's more fun if there's a wizard.
jordan holmes
You're not wrong.
dan friesen
What if there's two wizards?
jordan holmes
Now we're talking.
dan friesen
So Wernher von Braun.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Wizard.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Alex's grandpa, also a psychic.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
alex jones
How'd they come up with all these concepts nobody else could?
Why were the Germans?
Decades ahead of everybody else.
Well, you're going to get next level information.
Third hour.
And I'm going to talk about some stuff my grandfather told me that I've never revealed before.
Because when you're a little kid and you've told this stuff, it just didn't make sense at the time.
And...
Of course, it all makes sense now.
Because Wernher von Braun's mother was a super psychic.
And my grandfather's mother was one.
And I will reveal the information in the third hour.
Truth is stranger than fiction.
Of course, my grandfather was extremely psychic.
jordan holmes
Extremely psychic.
This is just a little psychic.
alex jones
So, I'll cover it third hour.
You'll definitely want to tune in.
Okay.
But I literally, this morning, was thinking about all this, and I already knew this, but it just...
I just...
It's not that it's even discrediting to talk about it.
It's just like, really?
Really?
Because it's so fantastical.
jordan holmes
Shut up.
alex jones
But I guess it all is.
dan friesen
What are you talking about?
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
It is probably...
There's got to be a part of his rational brain that recognizes how embarrassing it is for him to just be like, I'm psychic.
jordan holmes
Utterly bananas.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Utterly bananas.
dan friesen
I think that that's what he's wrestling with.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Just the awareness of another reality that he's pretending doesn't exist.
jordan holmes
I've always thought that that instinct...
Should be the one that people are far more focused on than whether or not someone is or is not a psychic.
We can have a conversation about psychic powers if you like.
I don't want to, but that's fine if you like to.
That's fine.
But what we should first have a conversation about is somebody who's like, I'll tell you in the third hour about psychic powers.
That's more important to me than the whether or not there are psychic powers.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
dan friesen
Hear me out on this.
You know why he's doing that?
unidentified
Why?
dan friesen
It's because he could see the future in the third hour where he knew that that was when he was going to talk about this.
jordan holmes
See, it's like whatever you want.
People watch the shows where it's like, ah, I'm talking to your dead mom and we'll do more after the break.
No, you can't do it after the break.
After the break, you're lying because you know the break is happening.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think that believing in magic or magical type stuff is not a problem for me.
Sure.
Like, if you believed in magic stuff, I don't think I do, but I don't really have any problem.
If you're a pain in the ass, that's the problem.
jordan holmes
That's the problem.
dan friesen
If you use your magic stuff to be a pain in the ass...
Totally.
That's the problem.
And that's what Alex is doing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I don't care if you go to church or something, but if you go to church and you hear a guy being like, well, I'll tell you more after you pay me, that's where you should be thinking.
You should be thinking.
dan friesen
So I got the sense that Alex's coverage of some of these other things, like, you know, the callous, the European Commission person, maybe a little superficial.
alex jones
Very important thing.
jordan holmes
No, very important things.
dan friesen
And he kind of confirms that here.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And then we've got the vice president of the unelected EU.
Russia's defeat is not a bad thing.
Then we can break it up into smaller nations.
Vice president of the EU, Kaja Kalas.
I'm truly lost for words.
They don't even hide anymore, the commenter said.
dan friesen
He's just reading a tweet.
He's just reading someone posted this.
jordan holmes
They don't even hide it anymore.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
One of those memes.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
He's not covering this conference that she spoke at.
He's not covering anything.
He just has a printout of a fucking tweet.
That's it.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So anyway, I want to know about this psychic shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Why are we even here?
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he said that he was going to have this secret space program journalist.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
But he didn't say who.
jordan holmes
That seems very suspicious.
dan friesen
Well, I think it's because he thought he did.
jordan holmes
Oh, but he doesn't.
dan friesen
No, because the person's name is Dark Journalist.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
And so he said journalist, and I think he tricked himself into thinking he'd already said...
jordan holmes
That it was a real, yeah.
dan friesen
He'd already said dark, that part.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
So we get to that part of the episode where the Dark Journalist is coming in.
jordan holmes
Really don't like that, but that's fine.
dan friesen
I don't really care.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Alright.
The Dark Journalist?
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
At this point, I...
I want supervillain type stuff.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
So, like, the idea that there's a guy who's like, I'm the dark journalist.
jordan holmes
No, no, you're right.
If he changed his name to Commander Orange, I'd be like, yeah, you know what?
That's better.
Lean into it.
Yeah, that's better.
You're right.
Good point.
dan friesen
Unfortunately, his Skype isn't working.
jordan holmes
Ah, shit.
dan friesen
And so Alex has to vamp a little.
alex jones
I had Daniel List on Dark Journalist many times, and he was sending his stuff and about to come on, and everything went dark, speaking of Dark Journalist, about 25 minutes ago.
So I don't know if he had an accident, an emergency, something like that.
jordan holmes
He was killed!
alex jones
I hope he's fine.
I wanted to really get into this Elon Musk information.
Because Elon, at least acted like today on this trend of Top of X, that he never heard that Wernher von Braun, the father of modern space exploration and the founder of NASA for JFK, wrote a book, his only fiction book, in 1953, where the head of the first Martian human colony is named Elon.
And then Elon becomes the new king of space exploration and the guy that plans to build the Martian colony.
And you see him really doing everything he needs to do to get it done.
More space exploration, more developments in 10 years than all of it previous.
What's really going on there?
Well, I've got a good idea.
And it didn't click until early this morning.
I already had a lot of the pieces, but I just felt like I should talk about this at that point.
And some of the things my grandfather told me.
dan friesen
This is so embarrassing if you know that Elon's dad read Von Braun's book, which Elon's dad has said publicly that he had, and that he named Elon after the title of the leader of the Mars colony.
I get that if his dad hadn't spoken publicly about this, you could have a little fun.
And pretend that Von Braun was a psychic and all that.
jordan holmes
Coincidences are crazy.
dan friesen
But because his dad's been clear about this, Alex looks like a total idiot who doesn't understand cause and effect relationships.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, he seems so dumb.
jordan holmes
If you wanted to have a conversation about nominative determinism...
Which would be an interesting conversation, genuinely, about how the pressures of being named Elon, the position that he was born in, the money that he'd already had, all of these things.
Maybe just the, like, psychopathy that is born whenever you're sentenced to believing that you should rule the world, right?
dan friesen
Well, and this touches on your experience, too.
Like, you know exactly.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Like, the idea that someone would name you something strategically.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it'll...
Fuck you up and you won't even know!
dan friesen
Right.
Do you believe for a second that Elon's dad...
Or parents didn't tell him about, why did I get the name that I got?
That's something that parents discuss.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
I know that I was named because of the Bible.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I know I was named Daniel after the character in the Bible.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
You know you were named in order to fulfill a prophecy.
jordan holmes
I was named to do many things.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
To many people across time and space.
dan friesen
I would say that almost everybody has had a conversation with their parents about, why did you choose the name that you chose?
jordan holmes
And for most people, it's a very normal conversation.
We think Timothy's a very pretty name.
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Elon almost certainly had a conversation about, I named you after the king of the space colony.
jordan holmes
Oh, it wasn't because we thought Elon was a pretty name.
It's because your dad wanted to fuck you up from the moment you drew breath.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And so maybe he's had some issues around that.
And has led him to want to go to Mars and fulfill his dad's Nazi book that he read when he was a kid.
jordan holmes
Okay, so here's the thing we do, alright?
This is an important thing that we gotta do, to plan ahead.
Alright?
So we got Nazis now.
We're gonna have a post-Nazi period.
We need to get like a legion of therapists to get on to the children of current Nazis and be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know.
They fucked you up.
I totally get it.
You know?
That way we cut off the next generation of Nazis.
dan friesen
Therapists and English professors.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because people need better reading comprehension.
jordan holmes
Therapists, English professors, and history professors.
All an army of them descend upon the children of Nazis.
dan friesen
I honestly...
I honestly think that, I don't know, a good, at least 30% of the ability of this shit to latch on to people has to do with poor reading comprehension and poor understanding of how to understand history.
We consider it all kind of soft humanities and shit, but...
That eroding is having serious consequences.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
There's absolutely no way you can look at the intense focus on STEM education and the absolute not giving a shitness about the arts and then extrapolate where we are now from that.
dan friesen
You need a balance.
jordan holmes
That'd be crazy.
dan friesen
So, look.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Von Braun?
Psychic.
jordan holmes
Psychic.
dan friesen
Alex's grandpa?
jordan holmes
Psychic.
dan friesen
Psychic.
jordan holmes
Extremely psychic.
dan friesen
No.
Well, maybe.
Okay.
Grandpa's mom was a super psychic.
jordan holmes
She was a super psychic.
dan friesen
But Alex's grandpa was just a psychic.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And he is the spitting image of that guy.
jordan holmes
Oh, so he's trying to say that he's a psychic.
alex jones
But I just felt like I should talk about this at that point.
And some of the things my grandfather told me when I was young.
jordan holmes
I ate a baby once.
alex jones
I remember being like five years old.
That's when he was really telling me stuff.
And I'd go stay with them, you know, a week in the summer, and we'd come down from Dallas and see them two or three times in Austin a year.
They'd come see us a couple times a year.
And I'd be like, what's Randy talking about?
And my mom's like, well, he's just very eccentric, your grandfather.
jordan holmes
I smoked hash in Morocco.
alex jones
I wish.
He died.
20 years ago.
jordan holmes
Or did I?
alex jones
Talk to CW today.
C.W. Hammond.
So smart.
And I'm a spitting image.
That's true.
My mom always, especially when I'm on a ball, she goes, God, she's like my father.
This is crazy.
dan friesen
It seems like Alex's mom is possibly trying to be polite about how her dad was insane, and Alex exhibits a lot of the same traits, like delusions of grandeur and believing himself to have superpowers.
Sure.
I mean, she says he was eccentric, and you're a spitting image of him.
I have no doubt that his mom is nuts and an awful person, but she's at least smart enough not to be a public figure associated with Alex, so I have to give her some rationality points based on that.
That decision is a strong decision that his parents have made.
jordan holmes
Yeah, one that they could have, because we know now, having seen many other scenarios like this, they chose deliberately not to try and become...
People on the internet.
dan friesen
Well, and we've heard explicitly from Alex that he's tried to get his dad on the show a number of times and his dad refuses.
Like, they don't want any part of...
jordan holmes
I don't need any of that shit.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
We have a real life.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Where I'm an actual regular-ass retired dentist.
dan friesen
We want to profit off this.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
We want to not be a part of it.
unidentified
I have a nice house.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Come on, man.
So Alex is a psychic like his grandpapa.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And...
He only says accurate things.
jordan holmes
That doesn't sound accurate.
dan friesen
No, not at all.
alex jones
I only say things that I think are accurate.
dan friesen
Oh.
alex jones
And 98% of what we cover is documents, things going on, and different world events, and then I take my knowledge and guess knowledge and try to approximate the parts we don't know.
But most of the time, we've got the vast majority of something understood, and then we kind of puzzle it out.
On this...
I already had these ideas and never set them on air.
And I followed Daniel List's stuff for years.
He's been a top Wall Street Journal writer on UABs and UFOs for years.
dan friesen
Dark journalist.
alex jones
And then he started saying things a few months ago on the show about Wernher von Braun that I'd read before but forgotten.
And he wasn't just an engineer.
Clearly his mother was extremely psychic.
That's on record.
And the word was he was a remote viewer.
jordan holmes
Whose record?
alex jones
And then I was told a lot of other information that when I brought it back up, and I wasn't told don't talk about this, but when I brought it back up on air, I know she's listening every day, she didn't go there.
So, I think just to be polite, I won't even really go into it.
What?
First hour as a prelude, so...
I mean, I can just say it's my opinion that Stanley Kubrick was a remote viewer.
Just leave it at that.
unidentified
But...
alex jones
What I'm getting at here is, I personally, because I'm not an esoteric guy, that's not what I do on air, I'm not a Bigfoot, Chupacabra guy, except when it's all in the real history, and when I have experienced...
Things that I've talked about on air and told you and then it happens because I have dreams about it and premonitions and now I realize all the time it's like outside of me telling me stuff and I just have to share this with people.
dan friesen
Fuck you with this I'm not an esoteric guy kind of nonsense.
He got attacked by a poltergeist and talks about Tucker being attacked by demons.
That's so much different than a chupacabra.
The only reason anyone gives a single shit about Alex is because he's able to entertain Joe Rogan by pretending to know stuff about aliens and demons.
Without that, he'd have no place in the market.
Yeah, I just...
God tells me what time it is in the middle of the night.
jordan holmes
I don't understand why he's got this self-image either, like...
He's the person who's supposed to believe that I can get details wrong.
I can be inaccurate, but I'm always telling you the truth.
That kind of thing.
I'm not hampered by the fact that I have to say the accurate things.
I don't get the complete...
Disregard.
Like, I only tell you things that I know are true 98% of the time because I'm psychic, but also this thing that I know is true.
I am psychic, so you can trust me that I do know this is true.
I'm not going to say it's true.
dan friesen
I'm not an esoteric guy either, man.
jordan holmes
I'm not an esoteric guy.
I'm not one of those guys who's going to try and convince you of something.
dan friesen
I'm a policy wonk.
I'm about the books.
jordan holmes
I'm just telling you.
dan friesen
I read stuff and I go off globalist documents.
jordan holmes
I am a psychic.
dan friesen
I predicted 9-11 in a dream.
jordan holmes
Pretty much.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alright, man.
Cool your jets.
jordan holmes
Accuracy is not supposed to be your brand.
dan friesen
No.
So, Alex is going to give the floor to the dark journalist, because he's arrived.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
And he says something that is just like, what the fuck?
alex jones
I don't want to interrupt him.
jordan holmes
I'm hungry.
alex jones
And I'm just going to, and we haven't talked, he just agreed to come on to my producer.
I'm just going to, for a few minutes, get his opening shot.
On the big news that Elon responded to overnight today, the trended Top of X, with hundreds of millions of people looking at it, dealing with this, Project Mars, a technical tale by Dr. Werner Von Braun, who just wrote this fiction book in 1953 about the head of the Mars project base being named Elon.
And then the guy that only got a rival, Wernher von Braun, and really surpassing now, obviously, is Elon Musk.
Don't.
jordan holmes
Don't.
alex jones
Obviously, if we are successful in this project, Mars, we don't nuke ourselves first.
We will be successful.
He will be the founder of the Type 1 Civilization Project, which I've said for decades is central in my worldview of humanity, not just surviving, but expanding.
dan friesen
This fucking sounds like children talking about their favorite show.
Elon's dad read a Nazi book, you dipshit.
The whole premise of this is flawed, and the reason that the information is being presented like this is because Alex wants it to be seen predestined and like the will of God that Elon will be the founder and ruler of our space civilization.
It has to be mystical or esoteric in nature because it's a lunatic idea that just illustrates what a bootlicker Alex has become.
I often say that the things Alex is doing are embarrassing, but this is a new level for me.
It's so easily explained by available information, but in order to play fun fantasy games about his preferred billionaire ruler, Alex is pretending that there's a cosmic prophecy that bears discussion because Elon tweeted some dumb shit.
Like, I don't know what Alex couldn't...
Like, this is such...
A toss over the plate.
This is an underhanded toss.
That he could knock the fuck out of the park.
You have Elon Musk thinking that he should be the founder of a new space civilization.
And he also seems really hell-bent on impregnating as many people as possible.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Possibly, you would think he's going to go populate Mars with just his offspring.
jordan holmes
Sounds right.
dan friesen
And then, all civilization will just be his genetics.
jordan holmes
It does sound like him.
dan friesen
It sounds like this is such a, like...
Slam this out of the park, Alex.
Just take a swing at it.
No!
Instead, he's just being like, this guy's great.
Psychics predicted that he would come and rise.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I think this is definitely one where it's like, this is a lesson that everybody in the media has to learn and learn as fast as humanly possible, which would be possible if they could learn.
Is that, like, Elon Musk didn't do shit.
Even when you're talking about...
The best way to think about Elon Musk is when he's playing a video game, he's playing someone else's hundreds of hours of work.
He didn't do shit.
He didn't do shit.
dan friesen
He's also not playing that video game.
Someone else is playing his character to build it up so he can say that he's the best in the world.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying.
He didn't make a rocket.
He didn't program fuck all.
He didn't do any of this shit.
But it's like...
Because he's the guy in charge, they just attribute it to him.
Because technically, it's accurate to say that he, you know, all of this shit.
And it's got to be like, Elon Musk, the CEO of your company, didn't do fuck all.
It was that guy who somehow spent two hours along with these other 15 people.
You know, it's got to be this 30 people made this rocket happen.
dan friesen
Right.
Miraculously, he hasn't fucked up, or he didn't fuck up severely enough.
To not get to the point where now it doesn't matter how severely he fucks up anymore.
jordan holmes
Brilliant people worked around his waste of existence to make something in spite of him.
dan friesen
Yeah, there were enough people around him to cover the holes until he got to the point where now he can just do whatever he...
Fucking wants.
And there's, like, no consequences.
jordan holmes
And the media was gullible enough and stupid enough to enable him and then fucking build him up.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
It is, if you are a journalist who's lost your job because of Elon Musk, it's really the whole media's fault.
dan friesen
It is.
I mean, it is a systemic problem.
jordan holmes
It's all of us.
dan friesen
But what if you're a dark journalist?
jordan holmes
Then you've always got a job in the dark.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, but one of the things that's important if you are a dark journalist is you're going to be listening to a lot of people tell you about their psychicness.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so he's got to listen to Alex talk about his grandpa for a bit.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
alex jones
As I got up at 5 a.m. and I was reading all this, and it just hit me.
I was literally brushing my teeth.
We'll just go to break, go back to the guests, and I'll shut up then.
But I don't want to cut him off.
What my grandfather would sit around the kitchen table when I would visit them and stay with them here in Austin.
We were in Dallas then.
And the things he would talk about.
And his mother and the other things, and then him telling me...
Particularly when I was little, but later he would just say, I'm not going to tell you because it could affect things, but oh my God, do you have any idea what you're going to do?
Do you have any idea what's going to happen with you?
I mean, I wasn't planning to be political or any of this when I'm like 10 years old, 5 years old, 15, 20. By the time I was about 18, he would just go, oh.
He was like, oh, when I come over, oh, I love you so much.
Oh, you're so good.
God loves you so much.
Oh, oh.
And he'd be like, he'd get out all these articles and documents and diagrams about the space stations, you know, the centrifugal space stations.
All this stuff about Mars colonies and, you know, the plans and humanity and all this stuff.
And it was just wild.
But he was extremely psychic.
And he was seeing, like, sonar into the future, a radar, bouncing off big events in the future is the best way I understand it.
dan friesen
Man, you do not have to be psychic to know that Alex was very aware early in his career that if he said, my grandpa showed me Mars documents and psychically, like, he prophesied that I would be important in terms of getting us to a Mars base, his career would not have gone like this.
This is, this is, we're in smoke them if you got them kind of territory where you can just say this kind of dumb shit and everybody's like, oh, fine.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Whoever's still around listening to his stupid show is not going to be at all concerned about this.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, this is what's going to turn me off?
Come on, buddy.
dan friesen
Alex was aware, though, early in his career.
He can't get away with this kind of shit.
jordan holmes
He was just going to call into Coast to Coast for the rest of his life, if that's what he was trying to do.
dan friesen
Probably.
But also, the timeline doesn't match up really well at all here.
Makes no sense.
He wasn't thinking about being political at all.
Except he was volunteering for the Buchanan campaign.
jordan holmes
Wow, sure he was volunteering for the Buchanan campaign, but that's not politics.
That's...
I mean, I suppose that's maybe more joining the Klan.
dan friesen
Did his grandfather have any concerns about Alex killing his great-grandchildren?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
That's a good question.
Actually, that was his dad who complained about that.
This is the mom's side of the family.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
So maybe they have different views on abortion.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, if you've seen the...
The future through sonar, psychic sonar.
dan friesen
Bouncing.
jordan holmes
I mean, you're probably not as concerned about the birth rate because you already know, you know, the rate of birth, I suppose.
dan friesen
You already know that Elon Musk is going to repopulate Mars.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why would you be mad?
dan friesen
And Alex is going to facilitate that.
jordan holmes
Why would, yeah, think about that.
Why would any of those conversations about white, the replacement theory, they wouldn't bother a psychic?
We'll be fine.
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it, friends.
We got this one.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a lot of stuff in Alex's career that he really shouldn't have cared about if he has the perspective of a psychic.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's weird.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Oh, well.
jordan holmes
It's almost like he's full of shit.
dan friesen
Kinda.
So, here's some talk about how you can change the future if you know the future.
jordan holmes
I don't know if that's how that works.
alex jones
Time and space is one moment that we're continually experiencing.
There is no past, present, or future.
But it's more like an expanding, you say the figure eight's why that's a symbol of infinity or just an ongoing loop.
But that's too simple of a way to describe it.
That's kind of how our third dimensional mind would approximate it.
And so it's big events out in the future, potential events that we're getting echoes back from.
And so the future of humanity and hundreds of billions of potential humans in the future, and that big of a psychic...
Broadcasts that they've proven we are broadcasting electrochemically, even in the third dimension but beyond, that because we are antennae, we are picking up what you would call a future event because it's all in the space-time system resonating.
And then if you can pick up those future vibrations, the issue is that you can...
Change those by actions.
And the bad guys know this, and that's why they try to manipulate things, so they can try to control the future.
The minute we understand that, it's not like Oprah's Secret, where you just believe it and it happens, but there is that potentiality, as Genesis tells us, we're made in the image of God.
It can do anything in that process as we learn the secrets of the power of humanity.
And so I believe...
And we'll talk to Dark Journalist's take on this, because he's seen similar things.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
alex jones
That Wernher von Rahm was seeing possible futures and was simply writing down and putting in the fiction format what he was picking up, echoing from the future.
That's how he was able to develop his program.
We'll be right back.
dan friesen
Yeah, that sounds about right.
I mean, it's like in Genesis.
jordan holmes
I see no potential holes in this.
dan friesen
We are antennae that are bouncing future potentialities off of, or...
Elon Musk's dad read the book.
jordan holmes
Sure!
dan friesen
One of the two.
It's either this nonsense, word-salad bullshit about time travel and changing the future through visions and antennae, or Elon Musk's dad read a book.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
I feel like, based upon your phrasing, your tone, you're not making an equal comparison here.
dan friesen
Well, would you like to hear from Elon Musk's dad?
jordan holmes
I feel like your thumb is on the scales here.
dan friesen
Yeah, a little bit.
errol musk
Let's go back to your children's names.
unidentified
Okay, so we go back to my children's names.
errol musk
Elon, when I was a child, we used to build rockets, and we used to read the books of Herman Oberth, Professor Herman Oberth and Werner von Braun, and they had these illustrated, they weren't really comics, they were books, but they had illustrations, and they were in German, unfortunately, but the...
The adult at that time that we were with who discovered Bennett's Comet, his name is Bennett, Mr. Bennett, he would tell us what the stories were saying about going to planets and all that sort of stuff, and we could see the illustrations and everything.
And Wernher von Braun's book, I think it was his, or it could have been Ober's book, spoke about that the head of the...
The Mars colony would be called the Elon.
Now, I remember that, but I never thought of it as a name.
I never thought it was a person's name.
And then when May and I got married, I was quite amazed to discover that her father's grandfather or something had been called Elon Alderman, which just really reminded me of the stories that we had.
unidentified
Thought, well, yes, I like that name for Elon.
errol musk
Because it means something to me, Elon.
dan friesen
So it's either that or Antenna, future prophecy telling that Wernher von Braun did.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because his grandma or his mom was a super psychic.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
One of the two.
jordan holmes
Right.
That one, the, okay.
Now, when you say primary source, all right, people think that's the best source.
Wrong.
He doesn't know anything about psychics.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
He's clearly been psychically tampered with.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's been manipulated.
jordan holmes
From the past future!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Obviously!
dan friesen
All of these radar, sonar things are fucking with Elon Musk's dad's head and making him think that he named his son after the book.
jordan holmes
It's Wernher von Braun who's doing it now.
dan friesen
Wernher von Braun is a puppet master.
jordan holmes
He's used his ability to see the future to make small changes to then make these things happen.
Obviously, yours makes sense, but only in the context of Werner Braun Braun being behind all actions of this current universe.
dan friesen
You have no free will.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not, because Werner Braun Braun could see the future and thus moved his foot in slightly different ways, thereby making this happen.
dan friesen
As evidenced by the Elon being a title of a Mars ruler in a book that he wrote.
jordan holmes
100% makes sense to me.
Uh-huh.
I think everybody's right, really.
dan friesen
Might be grasping at straws a tiny bit on Alex's part, but oh well.
So here he gives his gestalt.
Good.
And I made a note here that just says, this is rambling nonsense.
alex jones
Now, just finishing what I was going to get at, this is my gestalt here.
What I was thinking this morning of this big brainstorm that lasts about 30 minutes, one of the little pieces was, we know the project to put hydrofluorosilic acid in the water or weaponize it.
Concentrated fluoride into the water after World War II.
They knew it would lower fertility, cause cancer, lower IQ.
And now, six months ago, the FDA comes out and the EPA and says, we should get it out.
It's really bad.
At the levels it's in, it massively hurts children.
It's the opposite on the halogen chart of iodine that, with your pineal gland and all electrochemical activity, causes higher...
Vibration, higher brain waves.
It's a fact.
So they move to make sure you don't get iodine and make sure you get the bad one.
And when you calcify your pineal gland, even the ancients knew that was associated with your sixth sense.
And again, butterflies, ducks, geese, they've done studies.
There's hundreds of them that I know of since the 70s.
They have rods and cones, not just like you have in your eyes, but in your brain.
The scientists are like, what do these do?
And then they've tested it out, and notice they resonate on magnetic fields and things.
That's how a butterfly hatches in Canada and flies all the way to Mexico.
Monarch butterflies that lay its eggs.
unidentified
Is that what we're doing here?
alex jones
And then they fly back up.
But it takes three generations to get up there, and then the super monarch, it's much bigger, flies all the way back down.
What a species.
unidentified
Geez, how do they fly from Canada to Colombia?
alex jones
How do hummingbirds fly from Texas?
To Guatemala.
Some of them fly to South America.
And they've got these little transceivers in their brains.
And we have those as well.
Whales have those.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
Okay, so...
But any insect or bird or animal that migrates has more of them.
So that's just...
And the pineal gland is what's got the most of them in it.
And fluoride calcifies that.
You pull the studies up.
Fluoride calcification pineal.
Why would they do that?
Well, Dr. Dick Begich, you know, his brothers, the senators, dad's famous congressman.
Dr. Dick Begich, 30 years ago, I started interviewing, broke down the fact, and this was all declassified.
He would always go for what was declassified.
The Pentagon and the Russians all studied mind war and wanted to understand it for hundreds of years, really, before they called it the Pentagon.
The Germans were obsessed on it, the British elites and others, but they discovered that most people, that they would try to unlock their powers, We didn't understand the evil program and would turn against them.
So they said, instead of intensifying people's intelligence and awareness and connectivity and sensitivity, we want to just dumb everybody down.
unidentified
Aha!
jordan holmes
What a species!
dan friesen
Like, oh my god.
This makes so much sense.
jordan holmes
That was...
dan friesen
Honestly.
jordan holmes
That was a journey.
unidentified
So...
dan friesen
Just to put it briefly, because he got distracted by the animals of it all.
jordan holmes
It was very easy to get distracted there.
dan friesen
The globalists put fluoride into the water in order to dull people's superpowers, because they found that people who got superpowers ended up turning against them.
These superpowers manifest in ways like Wernher von Braun seeing the future and writing a book about Elon Musk before Musk was born, which is way too dangerous to the globalists, I guess.
jordan holmes
Can't be having that.
dan friesen
This dude is a straight-up fucking idiot.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
This is so dumb.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
But yeah, geese are cool.
jordan holmes
I mean...
dan friesen
Monarch butterflies.
jordan holmes
That would have been...
dan friesen
I'll miss them once the EPA stops protecting the environment.
jordan holmes
I think what we...
Okay, so here's my Wernher von Braun time travel thing that I would change.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
I would switch out Alex and Miss Frizzle.
Alex would make great The Magic School Bus episodes.
Amazing.
The best.
The best.
We'd learn about the butterfly's pineal gland and then go fucking crazy.
It'd be awesome.
dan friesen
And I think she didn't drive the bus, right?
jordan holmes
She drove the bus?
Oh, hell yeah, she drove the bus.
dan friesen
Okay, well, here's the advantage.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
She's not driving on roads.
jordan holmes
No, she's not.
dan friesen
And that means you can be drunk.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The magic school bus does not have a breathalyzer.
jordan holmes
And I guarantee that 100% of the people who have listened to Infowars in its entirety, from birth to conception to whatever, would be better served listening to Ms. Frizzle.
dan friesen
If I had unlimited money, that might be something I would want to do.
jordan holmes
Can we research that technology?
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Hire Alex to just do education.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Make an educational series where we really learn about these butterflies.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Really get into it.
jordan holmes
You lead the way, my man.
You drive that school bus into Butterfly Town.
dan friesen
I would like if I had millions of dollars just to make a master class with Alex about everything.
jordan holmes
Weirdly enough, I was thinking about what I would do.
At the very beginning of the episode, for some reason, I just had this image of Alex being chained to the Total Request live set and forced to do a reboot.
dan friesen
Of TRL?
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Him doing TRL.
dan friesen
Hey, how's it going?
jordan holmes
Just doing the whole, like...
dan friesen
How's it going?
Corn.
jordan holmes
Like the, like, my bum is on my face era of TRL.
Like him having to introduce that song to all these screaming teenagers.
I would enjoy it.
dan friesen
Hey, Tom Green's made it to the top of the charts for one day.
Unseating Limp Bizkit.
unidentified
Yep, yep, yep.
jordan holmes
That's what we need.
dan friesen
That would be fun.
jordan holmes
That would be fun.
dan friesen
So, the dark journalist...
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
...is stupid.
And I think that he just kind of mirrors a lot of Alex's shit.
alex jones
Tell us what you think.
@darkjournalist
Alex, it's great to be here.
And you're still on the beam with this because, of course, the thrust of it is that we are surrounded by energy and matter.
And there's a huge psychic component throughout all of these events that we talk about, the so-called deep state events.
dan friesen
Yeah, and there's a psychic element to Wernher von Braun's book.
unidentified
Boo!
jordan holmes
Get out of here, nerd!
dan friesen
Yeah, it's just stupid.
So he reads a little bit of a passage from von Braun's book about Mars.
jordan holmes
Great.
@darkjournalist
I'm going to read the actual quote.
This is what he has to say back then in 1948.
The Martian government was directed by ten men, the leader of whom was elected by universal suffrage for five years and entitled Elon.
Two houses of parliament enacted the laws to be administered by the Elon.
And his cabinet.
That's Von Braun.
It's a quote.
It can't be denied.
alex jones
And in the last few years, Elon Musk has talked about when they set up a Martian government, it should be direct democracy, just like you just said.
@darkjournalist
Yes, exactly.
dan friesen
Wow!
Elon has ideas for how we'll have a space senate, and it just proves that Von Braun's book is prophecy.
jordan holmes
These people are upside down into the bathroom now.
Yeah.
You're getting a swirly, my friend.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So all of this is prompted.
This whole interview and Alex's coverage is prompted by this going around on Twitter, the existence of this book, and then Musk responding to it.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And that's the only reason that this is happening at all.
alex jones
Right.
jordan holmes
A nine-month-old quote from somebody in the EU.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And then a tweet.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Of Elon learning, I guess again, about how his dad named him.
dan friesen
Yep.
@darkjournalist
Okay.
dan friesen
And pretending that there's some kind of a mystical thing going on.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And so, in order to really let this coverage hit the ground where it can run, they need to figure out, like, how do we talk about this in terms of the tweet?
Right?
@darkjournalist
Sure.
dan friesen
Obviously, Von Braun is a psychic.
And obviously, he predicted Elon's rise.
jordan holmes
I suppose we have to assume those things, yes.
dan friesen
The dark journalist said it was obvious.
jordan holmes
No, I've allowed it.
It's not debatable.
This is America.
We've moved on.
dan friesen
It's declassified.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
So, when you talk about the tweet, what is the motivation for it?
@darkjournalist
But let's bring it back around to the Elon Musk idea, because Musk, I can guarantee you that Musk is very aware of this.
So when he put that post out on X recently, it's quite interesting, because he and his family and all the rest are very, very aware of that prediction.
And he's coming up and saying, how could this be possible even?
Well, that's a new openness on his part.
alex jones
Yeah, he's obviously now ready to trigger that debate.
@darkjournalist
Yes, no question.
alex jones
And what do you make of his joke that he's a 5,000-year time traveler?
Because you can actually time travel psychically, not actually be the classic thing people think of.
@darkjournalist
What do you think of that when he says that?
He likes to go back to that.
alex jones
I mean, you know, I mean, all I know is I have experiences that I've shared that are on record.
dan friesen
Non-answered.
alex jones
Previously when I wouldn't do it, where, you know, I say, all right, well, and I feel it from outside of me.
I get told to say something.
And the fact is, when it happens, though, I've got to go ahead and just make myself do it.
I did it on election night.
I said, Trump will announce he's the winner and come out on stage at 127.
He came out exactly and did what I said.
And that was just like, really?
Do that?
It's like, yeah, do that.
And it's real and it happened.
I don't say it a lot.
You miss sometimes.
I never miss because it's not me.
And when I really had these super exciting experiences looking into the future, I get really discombobulated.
We'll be right back.
dan friesen
And sometimes I fall and hit a door.
jordan holmes
Oh my God.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I mean, these people are insane.
This is complete nonsense.
They're talking about this as Musk wants to open up the debate about whether or not he is predestined to be the ruler of our Type 1 civilization and expansion into space.
That's why he's tweeting this.
He's signaling that it's time to decide he's the leader of Earth.
It's time to have that conversation because this Nazi rocket guy wrote a book.
This is fucking insane.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was just thinking about the different, while that was going on, and while I was listening to those words be spoken out loud in defiance of all manner of heavenly protections, like, the thing about when people say, oh, this would make me become the Joker.
I've been cutting it.
I think I've been imagining that in myself, but I've not realized the fullness of it.
Because it's not just becoming a supervillain.
It's about also wanting to theme your weapons.
Do you know what I'm saying?
It wasn't until just now that I was like, and also the weapons I use need to be themed appropriately.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's the big part of becoming a Batman supervillain.
It's like, you need a motif.
jordan holmes
It's no longer about the, listen, supervillain-y.
Is going to happen.
dan friesen
Well, it's not like people think of turning the Joker or whatever.
They think about it as like, oh, I snapped.
jordan holmes
I'm going crazy.
No, wrong.
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
You've already gone crazy.
This is when you start developing products based around you being the Joker.
dan friesen
It's branding of the craziness.
It's like the Riddler figuring out question marks and stuff.
jordan holmes
Absolutely, yeah.
That's how I felt.
That's what I felt like.
I was like, oh yeah, it's time to really theme things, brand it, make a day out of it.
dan friesen
What do you think you would do?
jordan holmes
What would I do?
Something with big feet.
I think I would have...
dan friesen
Wait, big foot or big feet?
jordan holmes
Well, that's what I'm saying.
It would be a play on the two of those things.
So I would have to have big feet.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That would be my thing.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
But I don't know where I would go from there.
My only move is gigantic shoes right now.
dan friesen
I haven't done a ton of research on this, but my friend Angela Lampsbury has informed me that Beast from the X-Men used to be a feet guy.
jordan holmes
That makes sense?
dan friesen
He used to mostly be foot-based.
He'd, like, kick people.
jordan holmes
Oh, oh, I thought he was into feet.
dan friesen
No, before he was blue.
jordan holmes
That's why he turned into feet.
dan friesen
No, he was just, uh, his superpower was, like, feet stuff.
jordan holmes
Right, because he had hands, he had, like, monkey feet.
dan friesen
Like, feet hands.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, he had, like, feet hands.
dan friesen
Yeah, so maybe you should do that.
jordan holmes
Ah, but that's not my, I don't want to grasp things.
I want to stomp on them.
I want them to be very large.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
Like, maybe, but, like, house-sized shoes.
dan friesen
Not like shoes for around the house.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
Like a house.
jordan holmes
Like the size of a small house.
Single story.
Okay.
They would have to be expansive because the base would have to.
So they're not really mobile shoes.
I think I'm just going to live in a giant shoe.
I think that's what I'm doing.
dan friesen
There's an old lady who's got one.
jordan holmes
I think that's where I'm headed.
I think that's what I've accidentally fallen into.
dan friesen
All right.
unidentified
Cool.
jordan holmes
Yep.
That'll happen.
dan friesen
I'm just thinking of what would mine be.
Something like frozen pizza guy.
I don't know what that means, but I eat a lot of frozen pizza.
jordan holmes
That's it?
dan friesen
Here's something that I think is dynamic about that moment, though, that I think we should take a moment to appreciate.
That is that Alex, he's talking this dumb shit about Elon Musk.
And then he's like, what do you think about his joke about being a time travel guy or whatever?
And then the dark journalist does the one thing you're not supposed to do.
Which is ask Alex the exact same question back.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Because Alex isn't going to answer this.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
He's not going to say, yes, I believe Elon Musk is a time traveler, nor is he going to say no.
He's going to give you a non-answer.
Dark journalist fucked up.
jordan holmes
And it's going to take a long time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because he's trying to run out the clock.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
That's what he's doing.
He's doing the book report ad, but if I talk long enough, you can't grade me.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And people will just ignore the fact that I did not have a thought about this at all.
jordan holmes
Nope, not even one.
dan friesen
So we have one last clip, and it's a discussion of...
jordan holmes
What a species.
dan friesen
...how Elon Musk wants to rewrite our species.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
The history of it by going to Mars...
jordan holmes
Not good.
dan friesen
...and finding archaeological stuff up there.
jordan holmes
Now I'm listening.
@darkjournalist
My own personal look at this and the environment...
Of Musk and the push for Mars and how NASA is pursuing this is that what they're looking at is we want to get there and establish the ruins and, you know, establish this new origin story for humanity.
That is the goal.
alex jones
And they tell you that in Total Recall.
@darkjournalist
Yes, exactly.
jordan holmes
Who's they in Total Recall?
@darkjournalist
Philip K. Dick, how clued in was this guy?
Of course, you know, I've spoken to family members of his who say he had all these men in black experiences where they would break in and steal his writings, steal his research and all the rest of it.
This guy's writing Blade Runner, you know, do aliens dream of electric sheep and things of this nature.
He's right in there.
He has that aspect where he can tune into it.
alex jones
And listen, everything you say, I can back up because I...
Separately, I've been in a movie with Keanu Reeves, Winona Ryder, Morton, all those people.
Woody Harrelson, Scanner Darkly, and I was a technical advisor on it.
And I'll just leave it at that.
Obviously, Philip K. Dick's daughters were involved.
But I've heard all that directly from the source, and I'm going to stop right there because there was also people involved there with the NASA project.
dan friesen
Oh.
jordan holmes
Because, see, the Green Goblin, he's got grenades.
They're just regular bombs.
dan friesen
It's true.
jordan holmes
It's the turning them to pumpkins.
It's the, I'm gonna paint these.
I'm gonna make sure that these are like my themed, you know what I mean?
dan friesen
Well, it's a sign that you care.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know?
That's really what people don't recognize about supervillainy.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's dedication.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's an art to it.
And that's why some of these supervillains are disappointing.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
It's because they don't have the commitment.
jordan holmes
It's about commitment.
And it is, almost in a certain way, it is about that true commitment is insane.
You know, to commit fully is to embrace insanity.
And I think that's what we can all learn.
dan friesen
Well, Dr. Octopus.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now, when we talk about Dr. Octopus...
jordan holmes
Was that his fault?
Did he have...
Well, he did have eight limbs total.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, he had the four...
dan friesen
The number of limbs is his fault?
That's what you're talking about?
jordan holmes
Well, no, that's why he's got the four.
He's got the four.
He's got eight total.
Doc Ock works.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I think that's fair.
dan friesen
When we talk about Gentleman Dan.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Whatever those early Spider-Man villains were.
jordan holmes
Now we're talking.
dan friesen
Yeah, those people were committed.
Yeah.
Look, I don't know what to say about this.
Dark journalists' belief is that...
So Elon Musk's mom.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
She was an archaeologist in South Africa, and she was doing secret projects about an Atlantean civilization that no one's able to figure anything out about, that will tell us more about our own human history, right?
The secret space stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And there's ruins on Mars.
in order to find these ruins, in order to, I guess, continue his mom's work or something in order to rewrite human history.
Now, I would argue that if he does that, he has just killed God.
Yep.
unidentified
And so Alex should really not be thrilled about that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, hey.
jordan holmes
You know, but on another, perhaps on a more, and this could be more an esoteric level, but if it's possible to kill God, I believe it's our responsibility to kill God.
dan friesen
Well, I don't want to argue with you about that.
I think that Alex shouldn't be into it.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Also, it was Fancy Dan, not Gentleman Dan.
So I just wanted to...
jordan holmes
Gentleman Dan was the hair care brand, right?
dan friesen
Probably.
Dapper Dan.
jordan holmes
Dapper Dan.
That was a different one.
dan friesen
These people are stupid.
There's a lot going on in the world, and they're spending a fair amount of time talking about Elon Musk tweeting about this Wernher von Braun bullshit.
And it's crazy.
It's crazy.
There's no reason to do this.
He is so far up Elon's ass that I just...
He can't see light.
He can't see the daylight.
jordan holmes
It is amazing that he can be doing something so awful, like, I feel like I should leave.
Like, the whole earth, like, apparently it is, this is yours.
Apparently this whole thing is yours.
I fucked up.
This is on me.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
This makes me feel sad for him as a legacy.
You know, like, I...
jordan holmes
I want to go live on the Luke Skywalker island from Last Jedi and drink blue milk from giant, weird, lizard fat things.
I'll do it.
If that's what it takes, that's what I'll do.
dan friesen
I think Alex needs some brand rehab, and I don't think that this wacky Wednesday-ass Project Camelot-level nonsense with Dark Journalist is going to do it.
jordan holmes
Not going to do it.
dan friesen
But I actually, I mean, if he just wants to do that...
For a long time, I guess whatever.
jordan holmes
I guess that's it.
dan friesen
It's a little cowardly.
jordan holmes
I would say so.
dan friesen
But, I don't know.
One week in.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
We'll see what happens down the line, but until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do, it's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark, I am the Mysterious Professor.
jordan holmes
Woo, yeah!
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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