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Feb. 17, 2025 - Knowledge Fight
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#1009: January 26, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan tune in to hear how Alex is navigating his new reality where Trump is back in office, complete with a bunch of lies about immigration issues and a big reveal about Alex's political history.

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alex jones
21:25
d
dan friesen
41:07
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jordan holmes
18:17
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pastor david manning
00:02
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steve quayle
00:02
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unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
I need money.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding me.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a Christian.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your word.
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com Hey, everybody.
dan friesen
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan, quick question for you.
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot today is sort of a calling back to olden days.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And that is I have a plant watch update.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I've got some plants going in the house.
I have some purple peppers and some white peppers, some bells.
I also have some further back, not quite as far along.
I've got some Thai chilies and some peas and cucumbers.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And I'm excited about that.
But the bright spot is the peppers, the purple and white peppers.
I have gotten a bunch of flowers.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
dan friesen
They're at the point where it's like, oh, I think we're gonna get some fruit here pretty soon.
jordan holmes
You think you're gonna get some serious peppers?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
And so that's pretty exciting.
jordan holmes
That is exciting.
dan friesen
I think I've never seen a white pepper before.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So I'm thrilled to see how they come in and see if there's any actual difference between that and a yellow one.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But yeah, I like gardening.
It's fun.
I'm glad I'm doing some more of it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that the flowers are here.
jordan holmes
That's awesome.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's very, very cool.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I don't know if it's maybe we're getting to that right age.
But at a certain point, you're like, oh, did you know that things are alive?
You can make them get bigger.
It's fascinating.
dan friesen
And it's such a different experience, too.
I got some plants that were halfway grown, like little plantlings, from the store.
And I just didn't feel connected to them.
But these, I've grown from seed.
And there is something about that.
I've seen this right at the beginning.
jordan holmes
I think it does make sense to people.
dan friesen
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is...
Oh, well, it was Valentine's Day on Friday.
And so Saturday night, my wife and I made dinner together.
And it was awesome.
dan friesen
What'd you make?
jordan holmes
We made steak with Brussels sprouts and bacon.
dan friesen
Heart-shaped steaks.
jordan holmes
Rare.
They were fillets, and hers was pretty bad.
I made the shit out of that steak.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
It was a very good dinner, and it was nice.
We don't really go out because Valentine's Day is stupid and stuff, but I would prefer to cook with her.
That's way more fun than going out to a restaurant.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
It was just great.
It was a great Valentine's Day.
dan friesen
What kind of sides?
jordan holmes
Oh, I don't know.
I don't even know.
What was it?
We did Brussels sprouts.
No, it was just a steak.
It was Brussels sprouts and it was bacon.
alex jones
And that was it.
dan friesen
What about dessert?
jordan holmes
Let's see.
I'm getting fat again, so I think it was just M&M's.
Just a couple of M&M's to try to keep it down.
unidentified
Yep, yep, yep.
dan friesen
The candy dessert.
jordan holmes
It's been tough.
It's been tough.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
We're going to be talking about January 26th, 2025.
All right.
This is Sunday.
We're continuing on with our very slow progression.
jordan holmes
Slow play, yeah.
dan friesen
And I'm, you know, I'll be the first to admit I'm a little bit conflicted about this approach.
I think that there's definitely benefits to it, but we are getting...
Quite a bit behind.
Sure.
So I don't know how exactly I'm going to proceed in the future, but for now, having a little bit of distance from the content is helpful, I think.
I agree.
And so, yeah, this show sucks.
This episode sucks.
Alex is stupid.
And we'll talk all about it here in a second.
But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, thoughts on the Young Turks.
I'm worried Cenk Uygur is leftist Alex Jones.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Never been a huge fan.
I don't know.
I'm no expert.
Next, that brain force-looking sea moss Zaza got me ascending into the fourth dimension at Mach Jesus because it was time to pray.
Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
I do.
Next, I've been meaning to join as a policy wonk for a while, but I didn't decide to pull the trigger until I found myself screaming at the pod when Dan and Jordan couldn't remember the name of Russian Princess Anastasia.
Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you!
And we have a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
So thank you so much to His Grace Augustus Jericho, yes, like Chris Jericho, of House Dyer Dachshund, Lord and Protector of the Animals, the Andals, and the First Men.
Long may he reign.
And remember, the words of House Dyer Dachshund are, death from below.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
Chris Jericho, the only other Jericho?
jordan holmes
I mean, there was the city.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Right.
And the song.
But the song was about the city.
dan friesen
I don't know if I see a name where the last name is Jericho, and I have to be like, yes, like Chris Jericho.
jordan holmes
Right, that's a good point.
dan friesen
The pro wrestler.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
I think he sucks, too.
jordan holmes
Sure!
dan friesen
As we start this episode, here is where Alex is at.
Shit's bad.
Tech's not working.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
The machines are all broken.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
It is Sunday, January 26, 2025.
And you gotta love it right when the show starts.
It only happens like once a month.
And the computer system and the broadcast system crashes.
If we had a...
So it's all frozen right now, which is fine.
If we had a $3 million system, it would basically never do that.
But we didn't have $3 million.
I'm not complaining.
We had hundreds of thousands of dollars for the computers we have.
But that's the fun of this.
But it's okay.
I always love a screw-up right at the start of the show.
That is my favorite thing, to just hammer the whole trajectory of it and, you know, just send me into conniption fits because I'm teleprompter-free.
I do my own research.
I get ready for six, seven hours before.
I'm totally locked and loaded massively to spring into total offense against the globalists.
But you gotta love Murphy, baby.
You gotta love it.
Here's what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna have it my way.
I'm not gonna start the show right now.
I'm just gonna chill.
And relax, like Fonzie.
dan friesen
Okay.
So, shouldn't Alex really not care if the tech isn't working?
Like, he's teleprompter-free, and all he really needs is his brain and his mouth, so I've never really thought about it this way, but he should be the least affected person when it comes to tech problems.
But somehow, the second anything goes wrong, he has a giant blow-up, or he has to channel the Fonz to stop himself from freaking out.
That seems weird, and indicates that he might be a little more reliant on things like that guy talking in his ear than he wants to pretend.
unidentified
Well...
dan friesen
But yeah, it happens once a month or so.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I remember when I was doing stand-up, if the mic went out...
I would be fine.
I was fine.
Everybody could hear me.
Didn't matter the size of the...
That is essentially how it should be for Alex.
Like, oh, I don't even need the show to be around.
I don't need any of you here.
I could be projected onto the side of a fucking moving van.
I'll be there, you know?
So, yeah, he should not care.
dan friesen
Nope.
He should embody that Bill O 'Reilly...
Fuck it.
jordan holmes
Fuck it.
Let's do it live.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Instead, he's a sarcastic, pissy little loser.
dan friesen
Yeah.
If anything, like...
Like, the only thing he should be concerned about is whether or not the broadcast itself is working.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And if he has concerns about that, then he doesn't need to chill like the fawns.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Like, it just doesn't make any sense.
I think it's kind of just a rationalization to not really do anything.
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
And that's kind of the vibe that you get at the beginning here, where Alex kills time talking about how he's killing time.
alex jones
I'm going to start the show at six after in just four minutes.
When we join the 450-plus and growing radio stations that also pick up this transmission.
But radio stations, as you know, have news and ads the first five, six minutes.
But I've been on air and talk radio now for 29 years, on air total, 31 in April.
And so I, decades ago, said, you know, we'll still, just for the Internet audience, which is gigantic, obviously, now huge and bigger than the radio audience, do that first five because we don't want to just have you sitting there while we run a bunch of ads.
But then the more modern, younger folks that really never tune in to talk radio or even network TV, they're like, why are there still some ads of six, seven minutes, an hour?
Well, normal networks have 14 minutes of ads an hour.
We just have the local breaks that we play.
We cover up with our ads.
The local stations have their ads.
That's how they pay for their stations and their crew and operate before we just had the Internet.
And when they took me off almost everything with the giant Famousy platforming seven years ago...
And they were wondering why we still were able to stay on air and pay some of the bills.
We had to downsize quite a bit.
Well, it was because of our hundreds of great radio affiliates that are out there.
Now, you've obviously tuned in today to hear what the whole broadcast is about.
And it's big.
It's super important.
And I was about to tell you all that in this five minutes, but we blew up on the launch pad like we like to do.
dan friesen
What the fuck, man?
jordan holmes
Here's what I think.
Here's what I don't like, okay?
I don't like that we're hearing it again from Alex.
What I would like is to hear it from everyone once.
You know, like a rotating montage of anchors having this exact same meltdown.
But once every day, you know?
So 365 anchors, one day a year, everybody has to have a meltdown.
I like that.
dan friesen
I personally could listen to him freak out all he wants.
It's just, there's something intolerable for me about, like, the content of what you're saying is, I don't give a fuck about this five minutes.
Right.
unidentified
I'm going to talk about how I don't care about this five minutes to kill that time in that five minutes.
dan friesen
We'll start the real show later.
I'm just dancing here.
jordan holmes
And somehow he's still mad about it.
dan friesen
It's very wasteful.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Alex comes back and the real show is upon us.
And there's just real yelling.
It's just kind of empty.
This just feels empty.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
In his first six days as president, Trump has successfully launched explosive and explosive offense against forces of globalism with devastating effect.
It is Sunday.
January 26, 2025.
I am your host, Alex Jones.
And we have been through hell to stay on air this long.
We have gone through hell to get President Trump elected.
We have gone through hell to expose the New World Order Crime Syndicate.
And all the victories and battles we've won just make the final victory that much more sweet.
It makes me only want it that much stronger!
Because we're getting closer and closer to irrevocably smashing the globalist.
unidentified
Thank you.
alex jones
Now we have a very important transmission for you lined up here tonight.
And I'm about to launch into all of it.
Right now.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Go.
unidentified
President Trump understands that the globalists have tried to kill him and have a public plan to destroy the West so the entire world is poor, uneducated, and starving so the globalist technocrats can bring in their total and complete absolute hegemonic control and set up their technocracy and carry out technology.
alex jones
Their depopulation operations.
jordan holmes
Whoa.
alex jones
So that is their stated plan.
And the good news is it's coming out in the open and humanity is waking up.
dan friesen
That's great news.
This just feels like nothing.
You know?
Like...
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
Trump knows that they've tried to kill him.
dan friesen
This is the big news.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Trump gets it.
jordan holmes
Wait, wait, wait.
dan friesen
Here's the big news.
Trump is cool and you need to just...
jordan holmes
He's got you.
dan friesen
He's going to save the world.
jordan holmes
I'm going to ask you this question.
Can somebody knowing news be news?
dan friesen
I don't even think that Alex is reporting that he knows news.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, it's not...
dan friesen
I think Alex's reporting, the top story, is that Trump gets the vibes.
jordan holmes
That's what it feels like, and I don't know if that's really news.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
I definitely know it can't carry an entire show.
There's no way you can just be like, hey, got it.
dan friesen
Well, it's carried eight years of content.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
That is fair.
dan friesen
There's something that's really stark about what's going on in reality.
Alex's coverage, the lead story is just like, Trump's cool.
unidentified
I fail to...
dan friesen
I'm being a little bit facetious.
I understand that Alex can't actually cover the things that are happening because were he to, he would have to be like, uh-oh.
All the people I've sold you to are really bad.
They're villains and they're doing shit that I shouldn't be supporting.
But it's really embarrassing that you have this emptiness.
You're within the first week of your God King being in.
Yeah.
This should be later.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
This is escapist.
jordan holmes
I feel like we're on the verge of him going back to libertarianism.
I think that's where they all need to find themselves.
Because, listen, Trump is not what they want, obviously.
And they're going to be disappointed by it.
So then what do they have left?
dan friesen
Musk.
jordan holmes
Capital letters.
That's what we've all got.
Capital letters.
dan friesen
Libertarian is not the same thing as sovereign citizen.
There's overlap, but it's not exactly the same thing.
You are correct about one thing.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And that is that Trump is cool can't be all the show.
jordan holmes
It can't be.
dan friesen
No.
So there is some news to get up to.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I don't know if Alex has a good handle on it.
alex jones
We're going to get into all of the other massive news taking place and the confirmation of Hegseth as SecDef, the big battle coming up with Kosh Patel Thursday, Tulsi Gabbards, and the big one, RFK Jr.
And Bill Gates caught in illegal, fraudulent, dirty tricks, red-handed Friday, and new developments on that front.
And so much more.
Big developments on the Ukraine-Russia war.
Huge developments on the AI front.
On this live Sunday, January 26, 2025 transmission that the forces of evil have fought like hell to not have on the air now at this critical time.
But we're still here.
Because of you taking action and spreading the word and supporting this transmission.
Now, let me just show you these different stories and then I'm going to go through each one of them!
dan friesen
Fonzie.
alex jones
You guys, why I'm so pissed off?
Because we need to get serious.
We need to get focused.
We need to get out of our comas.
We need to get our heads screwed on straight.
Realize we're in a total war for the future of humanity.
And I look at all the good that's happening, and I guarantee you the forces of evil are going to redouble their efforts.
So we haven't won the war.
We're just winning big battles, and now we're going to deal with the counteroffensives from the globalists.
So, look at these articles, and then I'll go through each one.
Colombia offers presidential plane to repatriate illegal aliens after Trump slaps country with sweeping sanctions.
This just broke two hours ago, hours after the Colombian president came out and said, anybody we send to your country, including convicted felons for rape and murder, are not criminals, and you must keep them.
He was used to our government before that wanted criminals here to destroy the country and vote Democrat.
But now Petro, the punk, within hours of Trump slapping huge sanctions on Colombia, apologized for turning back multiple U.S. C-130 flights with hardened felons that they dumped on us, just like Venezuela and others have done.
They turned the flights back.
dan friesen
So Alex is fundamentally misunderstanding what government leaders around the world are doing in response to Trump's actions in terms of deportations.
And the reason he's misleading the audience is very strategic.
Colombian President Gustavo Petro had refused to accept arriving deportation flights that were using military aircraft.
This is something that's been an issue with many countries since Trump got into office where they're willing to receive people that Trump is kicking out of the United States, but it's very inappropriate for them to be transported on military craft.
One of the fundamental issues here is human rights and dignity.
Alex is pretending that all of these people are hardened criminals, but that's definitely not the case.
Many of them are just everyday folks that have been targeted and caught up in Trump's immigration crackdown, and I wouldn't be surprised if we learned down the line that a lot of them are actually here legally.
But even if we just pretend to believe that these folks are being deported, that they should be deported, they're being subjected to treatment that's at odds with our values.
People being relocated by military planes and personnel who are in some cases handcuffed during the flight, that's no way appropriate for the circumstances that we're in.
Alex needs to pretend that the leaders of these countries like Colombia are just mad about the arrival of deported persons because that feeds into Alex's no one wants these people narratives if he were to deal with the reality of what these leaders were saying Alex would be unable to sustain the illusion of his career ...of being against the police state.
Alex is now in a position where he must lie about the things his chosen leader is doing because to treat them seriously would require him to fight them or admit that he was just kidding about all that posse comitatus stuff back in the 90s and the 2000s.
Trump did threaten all kinds of reprisals against Colombia and Colombians, which did lead to them offering to send their presidential plane to transport immigrants to the country.
Alex is presenting this as complete capitulation, which really isn't totally fair.
The offer of the presidential plane is a way of saying you don't need to use military planes, and is an attempt to maintain their original position, which is that people who are being deported deserve dignity.
As President Petro has said, he would, quote, This is a good microcosm of how lies work.
For instance, as the BBC reported, Colombia accepted 124 civilian flights that were carrying deported immigrants from the United States in 2024.
Their government doesn't have an issue with general cooperation about migration issues, but they do have an issue with protecting the humanity and dignity of their public.
Petro doesn't have a problem with Trump deporting people.
He just has a specific problem with aspects of how he's doing it.
And Alex can't touch that criticism because he would have to agree with Petro or abandon the act of being a liberty guy.
And so that's kind of a bad place for him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I suppose.
I mean, I wonder, though, because for him and for the people of his kind, they just think that immigration in and of itself is a crime.
And so it doesn't feel like he couldn't...
It feels like he could get away with being like, hey, these are all criminals just for immigrating kind of thing.
dan friesen
I think that a lot of people can do that, and it is a little trick that you can pull to be like, well, the people are here illegally, so that's a crime, therefore they're criminals.
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
But you notice that there is still an insistence that Alex needs to make that all these people are rapists and murderers.
jordan holmes
He does.
dan friesen
Because he knows that that's not good enough.
Someone being here undocumented or overstaying a visa or something like that, I think your humanity still kind of is offended by the idea of them being taken to another country handcuffed in military planes.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I think that's still pretty obviously not cool.
And that's why Alex still needs to characterize them as hardened criminals and all this.
So I don't think that what you're saying would suffice.
jordan holmes
Well, you know, what's fascinating to me about that is that that suggests that if we didn't have the propaganda apparatus in place, the people that are supposed to be the ones who are fully behind Trump, if they knew the truth about it, they would be like, that's too far.
Right?
Like, that's essentially the concept behind this.
dan friesen
I think that a lot of the public might.
jordan holmes
Right.
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So we've got...
I mean, I do think that that's almost...
In a way, that's almost hopeful.
It is.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it's hopeful in the same way as when we did that Newsmax deposition of the idea of trying to hide...
Certain things from the higher-ups.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
That's mildly hopeful.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
It's a dark kind of hopeful.
jordan holmes
The people are probably more like you than anything.
It's the Alexes that keep them from being like you.
dan friesen
I think Alex has to deploy these kinds of rhetorical and presentational tricks because he knows on some level that...
jordan holmes
Everyone knows this is fucking wrong.
Everyone knows this is wrong.
This is a wrong thing to do.
You're lying to people because we all know that it's wrong.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So there's some people who have been protesting and shit, and I guess Alex is against that.
jordan holmes
I would assume so.
alex jones
Here's the next tranche of border news.
dan friesen
Tranche.
alex jones
Migrants waving Mexican and other countries' flags descend on Trump Tower Chicago, protesting and demanding they be able to stay here.
And I love reading the comments because I knew what I'd see.
They're making it too easy for Tom Homan.
And other folks quickly responded and got it right.
They said, no, it's a trap.
And that's exactly what it is.
And I'll be explaining that.
And this is beyond key.
Continuing, Screaming Eagles deployed to U.S. border as Race to Repair National Security intensifies the 101st Airborne Division, also known as the Screaming Eagles.
Also, a Marine Expeditionary Force from Camp Pendleton has already been deployed to the Mexico-California border where cartels have shot and wounded citizens for no reason is riding mountain bikes just two days ago.
dan friesen
So the protest that Alex is talking about was the People's March for Justice.
It wasn't just about saying that immigrants should be allowed to stay in the United States.
It was a group of more than 60 different groups that have positions that are counter to Trump's administration.
It was a large coalition, but the march itself was generally centered on immigrant rights and Gaza.
Alex thinks that left-leaning protests are a trap for the globalists to do a false flag, which would then lead to Trump needing to respond with extreme action, which would allow the globalists to call him a dictator.
Personally, I think we're pretty far past that point already, and Trump is supposed to be in control of the globalist infrastructure, so this whole false flag paradigm seems a little bit stale.
I find this to be entirely empty and kind of stupid for Alex to be doing now.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So there was a hiker in California who was shot and injured in the Jacumba Mountains wilderness, which is outside San Diego.
The reporting on it says that he was robbed by, quote, suspected cartel members, but that suspicion is not substantiated by any further information I can find.
unidentified
Great.
dan friesen
A hiker being robbed and hurt is bad, and I'm not trying to minimize that, but I don't know if this incident is necessarily indicative of a giant cartel problem, or maybe it's just convenient for Alex and his end of the media to portray.
it that way.
Yeah.
unidentified
And he's like, look at all this.
dan friesen
Doesn't this justify Trump sending screaming eagles to the border?
Yeah.
unidentified
And Marie, like, isn't he supposed to be against that?
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Alex shouldn't be, he should be like, Trump is sending screaming eagles and the Marines to the border and it is a severe encroachment of.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, well.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
It's like.
dan friesen
That was all an act on his part for the last 30 years.
So that's why that's happening.
jordan holmes
It's like when cops...
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Throw on, like, a body to a serial killer that the serial killer obviously didn't, you know?
Like, well, we'll just clear this case off.
Like, oh, the cartels, we'll just blame them for this one, too.
We'll just put that one on the cartels.
It's already a problem.
Nobody's going to check, you know?
dan friesen
And I think in this instance, too, like, cartel violence is far too vague a term to be using whenever, like, you know, Trump is...
Declared that it's an international terrorist organization.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, I think that for someone who came up in the world that Alex did and understands what happened with, like, oh, I don't know, terrorists.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
That term after 9-11.
jordan holmes
No, well.
dan friesen
And the way that the vagueness around fears of terrorists.
Was misused by people.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Particularly Republicans who were in power.
Sure.
I feel like Alex should understand that that could easily be done with cartel again.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, the danger of words is letting the government have them.
Shouldn't be allowed.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Completely silent government.
dan friesen
Well, sure.
That would be nice.
jordan holmes
That'll help.
dan friesen
So, one thing that the government has spoken about.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The Massachusetts government.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Has said some shit.
jordan holmes
Talk shit about the United States of America?
dan friesen
Well, according to Alex.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
alex jones
And then this.
Massachusetts governor says she won't obstruct ICE efforts and deport criminals that she was saying she would a few months ago, but cops won't help.
What's really behind all of that?
dan friesen
So Massachusetts Governor Maura Healey recently spoke about the state's relationship with Trump's new ICE and DOJ policies and clarified that they would be there to help uphold the law, but that Massachusetts law did not allow them to hold people who haven't committed crimes in order to help federal law enforcement.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
She wasn't stating a new policy.
She was just articulating what was already the case, which in the process highlights the ways that the Trump administration is trying to infringe on Alex's precious state's rights.
This traces back to a Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court case called Lund v.
Commonwealth, which holds that the state police cannot detain someone just because federal authorities suspect them of being guilty of a civil federal offense.
If someone is arrested for a crime, they are held according to that crime.
If the federal agents take up the case while that person is being held for the initial crime, then they can be transferred into federal custody.
But the state of Massachusetts cannot arbitrarily extend how long they hold someone because ICE wants them to be ready for pickup later.
That's unlawful detention and it violates their rights.
Alex should 1000% support this, which is why he has to report on it deceptively.
He absolutely does not believe that state level.
That's one of the huge cornerstones of his ideology.
To present things this way is embarrassing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it would be cool, because here's the thing that's always fun about these things, is that even if they say it's legal, it's probably illegal, what ICE is doing.
And then it's probably illegal in a state, or even in a city, to do what they're doing.
So why can't we have state cops just arrest those assholes?
dan friesen
The ICE people?
jordan holmes
Yeah!
Fuck them!
They're doing illegal shit!
In the wrong place to do illegal shit.
Just because they've got a fucking federal asshole badge doesn't mean that they shouldn't be fucking put in prison.
I'm saying we get regular cops.
Now we've got a team.
Now we're all on the same team with cops because they're fighting ICE guys.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's the trick.
dan friesen
I was just sort of lost in thought reflecting on how if I dealt with information the way that Alex does, I would be talking about ICE like it was Mr. Freeze.
These ice agents are ice skating through the streets.
They are on rollerblades.
jordan holmes
They are very much going to be nominatively determined.
dan friesen
Tom Homan has a freeze ray.
jordan holmes
Oh, but then his wife would be a tragic, tragic, sad story.
dan friesen
That is true.
jordan holmes
So we don't want to give him...
dan friesen
Tom Homan is not an anti-hero.
jordan holmes
I don't want to give him ice powers.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
So Alex is clinging to this idea that there's a false flag that the globalists are trying to pull at one of these protests.
jordan holmes
For what reason?
dan friesen
It's just, he has nothing else.
jordan holmes
It doesn't make any sense.
dan friesen
He wants to be interesting.
alex jones
There's a lot of educational information on how the world really works within each one of these.
Like the false flags the deep state's gonna stage against an illegal alien demonstration.
And then blame the Trump administration and the type of group they're going to use to frame Trump and the American people.
That's what they've been pre-programming and preparing and saying with no evidence.
Why would Trump and Tom Homan or anybody go kill a bunch of illegal aliens?
You're just going to deport them.
But they're saying, oh, when Trump gets in, he's going to come kill you.
We need big demonstrations.
That way they get a group of them together.
They wait till ICE goes out there.
And then somebody attacks the crowd, and you can't tell where the shots come from, and they blame the federal government.
That's guaranteed one of their main moves.
Notice I've been saying it for six months that once Trump got back in, that that was what they would pull.
Then they started saying, indeed, Trump's going to attack the migrant demonstrations.
This is so obvious what's going on.
So people are now complaining with these demonstrations.
Houston and Chicago and L.A. and New York and Miami.
Where's the Border Patrol?
The illegals are all in one spot.
Tom Homan's smart.
He doesn't need me to tell him it's a trap.
No, you don't go get them while they're doing that.
The problem is they're going to get violent soon, guaranteed, and then that's going to force the police to respond.
But in blue cities, Just like you saw in 2020 in the summer of love, mostly peaceful, burning down billions of dollars and killing dozens of people, burning up federal courthouses.
They will stand down in the blue cities, forcing Trump to send in the National Guard.
That's what you do when a city loses control or a state loses control.
They're going to do it on purpose.
And then when the military comes in...
That's when they're going to do the false flag.
jordan holmes
Wait.
alex jones
They pre-programmed with movies like...
jordan holmes
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
alex jones
They pre-programmed with Carville saying Trump's coming to kill the black people and migrants at demonstrations.
You've heard Jamie Raskin, Civil War Conditions.
That's their move.
And I've kind of already gotten to that, but I'm going to get more to it.
dan friesen
Okay.
Who's supposed to be doing any of this false flag stuff?
jordan holmes
I was wondering that myself.
dan friesen
Like, is it Soros or Sam Altman?
Like, all of this just sounds insane.
And at the end of the day, the utility of this narrative for Alex is to make sure that the audience doesn't care when violence is carried out against groups of protesters and to preemptively rationalize how he can support Trump using the military for domestic policing.
If you listen to what he's saying, the choice is between Trump ruling over a police state or living in a state where the globalists can just do these violent protests and cause chaos all the time trying to bait Trump into ruling over a police state.
The Trump-controlled police state is a foregone conclusion.
It's just in Alex's interest to pretend that the creation of it was necessary because eventually these leftist globalist protests are going to turn violent.
unidentified
It's going to cause chaos and then Trump is going to have to do the police state thing.
dan friesen
Also, I don't know if I've heard anybody talk about that Civil War movie other than Alex, and I don't think a wide swath of the public even knows who Jamie Raskin or James Carville are.
If the globalists plan to pre-program the public as, like, it's something to do with A thing Carville said in 2024?
If that's one of its main pillars, that's a dumb fucking plan.
Shouldn't it be something like a Taylor Swift song or a Bravo reality show that that's what's getting the pre-programming out?
Not an 80-year-old political pundit who hasn't had any major relevance since 1992.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Not gonna do it.
dan friesen
Seems stupid.
alex jones
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
And also, if I understand him correctly, though, is that once the military is brought in, That's when they're going to do the false flags.
dan friesen
Right, but the false flag is going to be done to bring in the military.
jordan holmes
Right, but wouldn't Trump be the one who wants to bring in the military and so would be doing the false flag?
dan friesen
I think no.
No, because he's cool.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, but...
Okay, I'm going to try and get to this place because I'm struggling here.
dan friesen
Okay, I can...
Please ask questions because I can untangle this for you.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
First question, the false flag is done by someone to achieve their goal, right?
So someone is attacking themselves in order to achieve a goal, right?
So they false flag themselves.
Yeah.
After the military is brought in.
dan friesen
Also before, though, because that's what incites the military to come in, is a false flag on themselves.
Okay.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay, but then what?
dan friesen
So the false flag that you're imagining is, like, Trump would have to do something in order to achieve the goal that he wants of bringing in the military.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But for Alex, there's a secondary step to this.
Okay.
unidentified
Which is the ultimate conclusion is for Trump to be sort of suckered into...
dan friesen
Bringing in the military.
And then the real goal is achieved, which is the globalists can say, look, Trump's a dictator.
jordan holmes
That's the real goal?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
dan friesen
Demonize Trump by making him look like a dictator by forcing his hand to bring out the military.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
To quell these protests.
unidentified
Well, that's just not going to happen.
dan friesen
No, it is a little dumb.
jordan holmes
That's very dumb.
dan friesen
Yeah, and especially like...
Carville said something.
jordan holmes
There are so many easier ways to do literally anything else.
Literally anything else that would be more likely to achieve the goal as Alex imagines it to be.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Anything.
dan friesen
Right, but that's why this is not connected to reality at all.
It's a way of anesthetizing the audience from caring if there's violence that's carried out by groups of right-wing extremists against protesters.
And then secondarily, I think Alex has every reason to suspect that Trump is going to be not too cool about wielding power, and he's going to have to support that.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so he has to have these rationalizations for why it's okay in this circumstance.
Trump needed to put up checkpoints.
Don't you understand?
Antifa's out there or something.
jordan holmes
Okay, I'm going to throw this out at you.
I think part of where Alex is at...
Right now.
First off, he has not been able to understand where emphasis goes on words.
He's been shouting the wrong word in the middle of a sentence.
It's been very confusing.
But I think what we're dealing with is a credulity balloon situation.
Everything is far more believable now.
Like, there's no, like, oh, this is crazy.
Like, can you believe this?
Yeah.
Yeah, I can.
I can believe it now.
Now I can believe it, right?
So what does he do?
You know, like, even a false flag, these days, who fucking knows, you know?
But this is insane!
dan friesen
Yeah, it's also that, like, the credulity issue is, it cuts in both directions, too.
Because, like...
I am supposed to believe that this overpowered team of supervillains who have been working for the devil, who have magical powers, and can see the future, and tried to recruit Alex as a child into their nefarious plans because they couldn't get his dad or something.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
They fucked this up?
jordan holmes
I don't know how.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I don't know how.
They crushed it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
They're just like, oh, I guess Trump survived to the inauguration.
jordan holmes
I mean...
dan friesen
What?
I cannot believe that there is some bizarre, elaborate false flag that they have planned.
unidentified
We'll pull it out this time.
dan friesen
It just sounds dumb.
He's trying to play the same game he's always played, and the game has changed.
And I think he's going to need to get right with that at some point.
jordan holmes
Or it's going to get righted with him.
dan friesen
So Alex talks about this issue with the Colombian president and the plane.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Petro the punk.
dan friesen
The punk.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And you notice if you listen that he doesn't get to the heart of the issue at all.
alex jones
What happened quickly?
Colombian president has refused entry to American planes, transporting Colombian migrants back to Colombia, stating, I deny the entry of American planes carrying Colombian migrants into our territory.
Won't even take his criminals back.
And here's the videos of them coming up at C-130.
I guess that's a galaxy, one of the even bigger ones, and they're told, nope, you gotta go back.
Well, that turned around quick because Trump signed this order.
I was just informed that two repatriation flights from the United States with a large number of illegal criminals were not allowed to land in Colombia.
This order was given by Colombia's socialist president, who was already a very unpopular amongst his people, Petro's Denial of these flights has jeopardized the national security, public safety of the United States, so I have directed my administration to immediately take the following urgent and decisive retaliatory measures.
When we come back, I'm actually going to read the measures, because you're not seeing this in the media, all the measures.
dan friesen
So you can see how, in this clip, how Alex's coverage is pretending to have depth, but it doesn't even touch the real issue.
When you hear a story like that President Petra refused to have these planes come in, Your first question should be, why?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And Alex is not touching that why.
He's pretending that the answer to why is that it's because they were carrying immigrants.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And that's not true.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
That's not what's at the heart of the issue.
Alex doesn't address this because if he did, it would complicate the story and challenge his imaginary principles.
So his coverage is limited to things like reading Trump's tweets and then insisting that there's a secret story no one's reporting on buried in the threats that Trump made in terms of sanctions.
It's bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's glaring.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like...
This shouldn't be a conversation.
You know what I mean?
Like, not just about Alex's lies, but like, what are we doing?
First off, it costs money to fly a plane, right?
What are we doing there?
And then we're flying it to Columbia?
Why?
And then there's people on it.
They shouldn't be there.
What is happening to everybody?
And then we're all just like, this is a thing that we're, it's a football that we can score points off of.
dan friesen
But here's what I would say.
I would say that, like, yes.
If we keep going down layers, then eventually you do get to...
jordan holmes
This is all insane!
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But if you stipulate everything up to the point of the president of Columbia saying something, if you stipulate that all of that makes sense, then you ask yourself, why is he doing that?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And Alex is refusing to engage with the why, even if you stipulate that all the other stuff makes sense.
Yeah, yeah.
I agree with you that there's a rich territory of stuff that doesn't make sense.
jordan holmes
There's a vein of not making sense throughout all of this.
dan friesen
That's fine.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But even with the level that Alex should be or appears to be trying to cover, it still doesn't make sense.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And it's intentional.
jordan holmes
No, it's, yeah.
I mean, it's confusing on top of its confusingness.
dan friesen
Well.
jordan holmes
That he's...
Confusing it with.
dan friesen
I mean, the obvious reason is because this is about Trump PR.
Sure!
That's what this is.
jordan holmes
Right!
dan friesen
This outlet is just that.
So you remember when Trump got 150 out of 100 or maybe 200?
jordan holmes
I do.
dan friesen
And then a 20 out of 10 or 20?
jordan holmes
I recall that.
dan friesen
How about...
jordan holmes
Are we reducing fractions today?
dan friesen
No.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
We're going into metaphor land.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Golf metaphor land.
jordan holmes
Okay, so the score is going to be low.
dan friesen
Maybe.
Maybe it's going to be super low.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
All right, ladies and gentlemen, as you can hear me at the start of the show, I am super ultra fired up right now.
I'm not trying to be so aggressive and sound like a cross between Optimus Prime and Darth Vader.
It's just, I mean, this is war.
This is hardcore.
And Trump is outperforming my wildest dreams.
What I imagine would be a 100% by him, I would have been satisfied by his first few days, first week.
If 80% of what I thought he should have done, he did, I would have been fabulously pleased.
It's like he's playing an 18-hole golf course and just hit 18 hole in ones.
Or on one, he got a...
It took him two hits to get in because of having Ellison and Sam Altman there.
How am I supposed to get mad when the other 17 holes he didn't hole in one?
I mean, it's that ridiculous.
Even trying to track it is driving me insane.
dan friesen
Well, you're not tracking anything.
Also, if someone has 17 hole-in-ones, they're cheating.
jordan holmes
Or the game broke.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
They broke the game.
dan friesen
They're lying to you about how they play.
jordan holmes
The point of the game is that you can't do that.
Whatever.
dan friesen
It's literally impossible.
jordan holmes
Ah, man.
dan friesen
But yeah, so that's fun.
18 holds in one?
17. Let's not be crazy about this.
unidentified
This is...
jordan holmes
Okay, here's what's even crazier.
dan friesen
I don't want to sound too much like a sycophantic boot licker.
jordan holmes
Here's what's even crazier.
dan friesen
Took two strokes on one.
jordan holmes
Even in real life, even in real life, if there was a president that was doing 97% of what I wanted him to do, I would be fucking furious about that 3%.
No!
unidentified
No!
jordan holmes
What?
What are you talking about settling for fucking...
Oh, he still gets a 200% for failing?
Fuck off.
Sam Altman's there.
We should still be pissed about it.
dan friesen
Sure.
I think there's something to be said for that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I think Alex should be pissed about it.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
I also think that a certain amount of healthy...
Engagement with reality would require that if you feel like someone is giving you 17 holes in one, you should be curious about that.
jordan holmes
It's probably, yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Generally, that doesn't mean that they're actually overperforming.
It might mean that you're being sold a bill of goods.
jordan holmes
It feels like it would be very easy to lure Alex somewhere with a van filled with puppies.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Like, he would be like, what?
I can't believe there's a van.
17 holes in one.
That's how great you are.
And I'll tell you, there's one bad hole, and it's going to be inside the van.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And he's not that clever.
But, so are...
Some people on the left.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Like a Bill Maher.
jordan holmes
Is he still around?
dan friesen
Yeah, he's doing that Club Random.
Have you seen that?
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
He gets really fucked up and then has dumb conversations with people.
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
He's an old man!
dan friesen
Yeah, I watched the one with the Hoctua girl and I felt very uncomfortable.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
But yeah, apparently he's into Trump now.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Which Alex is like, cool.
jordan holmes
Fine.
dan friesen
Great.
alex jones
And it's really happening.
Which makes me get really concerned because a lot of them are giving up and their minions are giving up.
Even Bill Maher's basically endorsing, not basically, he's endorsed Trump completely the last three weeks.
What does that tell you?
What did Bill Maher say?
He goes, listen, we've got to give him a chance.
The left's too evil.
They're too crazy.
They were going to get us all killed.
Just get behind him.
Just get behind him.
Just, okay, all right, it's true.
And then his guests are all just knocking it out of the park.
And the left that they have on his guests just sit there and shut up.
Because they know too.
They're screwed if we don't stop this.
Post-industrial collapse plan.
I mean, my God.
You really want your resources cut off?
You want to eat bugs?
Really want Fauci and the U.N. shooting in your body?
Whatever they want?
Good God.
Everybody knows people that have died from the damn shot.
Or had heart attacks.
jordan holmes
That's Trump's fault?
unidentified
Game.
Fuck.
alex jones
So.
I have a lot of mixed feelings.
I feel so great.
But I'm also not stupid.
And I know every time we make big gains, the enemy doubles down.
Now, maybe they're not this time.
Because there's not much form to double down on.
What, blow the planet up?
dan friesen
Yeah, no shit.
You can't escalate things much further.
So, yeah.
You have run out of narrative runway.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Cool, man.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Thanos was it.
The story ends with Thanos.
Stop making the movies.
dan friesen
It's gonna be really difficult for you to walk back from the globalists are about to blow the planet up unless we can get Trump in.
Oh no, there's a new big bad guy!
jordan holmes
It's too late.
dan friesen
Sam Altman, that stuff was really cute and it was very fun for Alex to try to turn him into the next Bill Gates for a couple days.
I don't know how well it worked.
I don't know.
I don't give a shit.
And I don't think that anybody gives a shit about Bill Maher.
I don't think anyone has for a long time.
jordan holmes
I can't imagine anybody continuing to.
dan friesen
I remember it being kind of a public joke that he was a sex creep when I was 20. Yeah.
Like 20 years ago.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It was kind of known that he was a weirdo.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And not super great.
jordan holmes
Not on the up and up.
dan friesen
No.
And, yeah, I don't know.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I just...
jordan holmes
I mean, he is making a good point about how the media has capitulated faster than any of us could have possibly imagined.
dan friesen
There's something to be said for that, but I think that the specific example of Bill Maher is trash.
jordan holmes
It is a trash example.
Weirdly enough, even whenever he's right, he's still an asshole.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's media criticism, and then there's, like, so say Bill Maher.
jordan holmes
Bill Maher's a prick.
Like, yeah, I mean, yeah.
dan friesen
But this thing that Alex is saying here, this like, okay, so Bill Maher is capitulating, and this makes me worried that there's going to be a big blowback, but maybe there's not.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
This whole thing is just stupid.
Yes.
And it is indicative of him having nowhere really else to go.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so when he just yells, he's playing his old game.
alex jones
Voting mattered.
They'd make it illegal.
Well, it was illegal up until we created our country, basically.
And yeah, they still try to manipulate that.
unidentified
I'm sorry?
alex jones
But you don't give up because there's fraud.
You engage it.
You research it.
You expose it.
And then it blows up in their face.
And if you use the mathematics on how the fraud works, it can only bring forward so much fraud.
Here's an easy way to understand it.
If 90% of people went and voted in a general election for Trump, it'd be impossible to hide that, right?
Because there's not even enough people to be able even to somehow skew that.
And everybody would know from the exit polls it was a lie.
Which happened in 2020 when he got like 60%.
But they had enough to steal it.
You win by 65-70, you cannot be beaten because they can only bake in so much fraud.
I've had the top famous pollsters with the best records, the head of Rasmussen, I've had the top computer scientist on elections, Dr. Epstein on.
And then some of the listeners are like, Jones is saying it's going to be a big enough landslide to override the fraud.
I don't believe him.
And then what was it?
A big enough landslide to override the fraud.
So what was it?
A moderate landslide, word for word, what I said it would be happened because we overrode their ass.
When the enemy cheats, you just fight harder because this isn't a board game or a football game where the other side's cheating, you just go home.
This is war.
unidentified
You can't give up no matter what.
Ah!
*Sigh* Thank you.
alex jones
I noticed viewers see me getting that fired up, and some of them go, what the hell's that?
That's weird.
But if I went to the NFL Super Bowl and painted myself up like an idiot and screamed like that for four hours, you'd call me a red-blooded American.
Well, guess what?
unidentified
I don't feel like screaming over a stupid-ass football game.
alex jones
I get fired up about the globalists.
dan friesen
It's pretty shocking how stupid this sounds in the context of Trump winning the election, no one trying to kill him, and him facing very little pushback in terms of, like, handing the government over to Elon Musk.
It's a nearly unqualified win for Alex's big business forefathers in the JBS.
But the content that he's putting out is like this.
It feels dumb, because it has to be.
Alex isn't needed anymore, at least not this version of him.
Who cares about the stupid 2020 election conspiracies anymore?
Does he think that he's impressing any of the elites by holding fast to this storyline and showing how passionate he is about it?
Those lies were a means to an end, and that end has been achieved.
There's a feeling listening to this content that Alex is still grasping.
He's still trying to grasp the level to which his world has fundamentally been changed by what's happened in the past week from this point back.
I think he still wants to just be living in the past where yelling dumb shit about the 2020 election and grandstanding about how he doesn't care about football feels like it matters.
Alex doesn't seem to get that the game of his career has ended.
The globalists are a meaningless concept now, and he's going to need to change accordingly.
Until he does, this is just going to have the air of anachronism and irrelevance.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
The old world is dead.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's just...
It is what it is, buddy.
You gotta update.
dan friesen
Well, one way or another, there are vestiges of the old world and all that, but in terms of Alex's games and his information and the way that this...
This is stupid.
jordan holmes
And here's the problem.
All you gotta do is think about what the devil would do.
Alright?
You know what I'm saying?
So, this is where you go next.
If Trump wins, then what's the devil's next move?
Not like, oh, Sam Altman's bad.
dan friesen
And like, don't...
Give me that shit.
The devil can only cheat a little.
jordan holmes
Yeah, come on.
dan friesen
Don't give me that shit.
jordan holmes
Come on.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Who makes those rules?
Right?
Give me some serious devil power.
Get a thinking cap.
Take a weekend off.
Get shit-faced and think about the worst things you would do, and that's probably what they would do.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Done.
dan friesen
It's embarrassing, honestly, to just be this.
jordan holmes
It is.
This sucks.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I would love a down-the-middle, dry, boring discussion about how great the things Trump's doing are.
Like, actually getting into these things.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I would love that.
Or, I mean, I don't love it, but I would...
Kind of understand if Alex was just like, ha ha, we have a king now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, 100%.
That would make me feel more comfortable if he would just at least enjoy the win.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
But this stupid shit trying to play the same games that he's played over and over again, it just...
It feels...
jordan holmes
It sucks.
It's just...
It feels like it sucks to be.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It sucks to be a part of.
dan friesen
It's boring.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
And it's stupid.
dan friesen
It's boring in a way that's disconnected from the real damages and the real effects that are happening in the world.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's kind of...
jordan holmes
Weird.
Yeah, if we're going to go back to the old world, then go back to fish people with sad human eyes.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Now we've got...
You can even say that Elon's dragging them out of somewhere because he's the only billionaire who knows where other billionaires keep fish people with sad human eyes, but bring back sad human eyes.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Be interesting.
Yep.
So I remember in the first Trump term, there's a lot of like...
I'm pretty excited about, like, Rex Tillerson.
And, you know, until Alex turned on these people because they didn't like Trump enough, he was pretty excited about them.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
And so we're doing that again.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
He's pretty excited about Hegseth.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And he says something that I thought was strange.
alex jones
And when Hegseth won Friday night, I went, woo, yeah!
And my wife's in the room going, oh, what happened?
She didn't think my husband's weird.
He's screaming in his office.
Because like me, she doesn't get upset about sports.
She gets upset about her freedoms.
Because she's got her head screwed on.
unidentified
Whooo, whooo, whooo.
dan friesen
I try my best to avoid ever talking about Alex's personal life unless there's a reason that's relevant to something larger.
Alex has brought up his wife responding to him cheering when Hegseth became defense secretary, and this sounded strange to me because he apparently filed for divorce from her on September 9th, 2024.
As of right now, this is still an open case in the Travis County courts.
I naturally have no idea what's going on between them, but it strikes me as possible that he's actually getting divorced again?
Or it seems possible that this could be another way of trying to avoid the bankruptcy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
His wife's divorce attorney is from the firm Fullen Weider Wilhite, and Alex's lawyer from his last divorce was Randall Wilhite, one of the members of that firm.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Which is...
A coincidence?
jordan holmes
Seems like they've worked together in the past.
dan friesen
Maybe.
In his world, it's never really clear.
Although, in September, there were temporary restraining orders filed, and in November and January, there were notices filed to take their child on a vacation, which seems like something that would only be happening if there was actual acrimony between the two of them.
Anyway, I don't want to wallow in personal life or gossip-level stuff, but that's something that could become relevant in the future, and I feel like...
There's an outside chance that it is a way of hiding resources.
jordan holmes
I would probably put a lot of...
If I were stealing a lot of resources right now, I would put them in a basket that says that's why.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex is...
I guess Home Life is just...
He's pretending it's all fine.
So maybe it is.
And if it is, then that would lead me towards believing that it's a way of hiding resources.
Or else Home Life isn't as nice as he's painting.
Who knows?
jordan holmes
Who knows?
dan friesen
So back to more sort of news-based issues.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Here's a lie.
Here's a good lie.
alex jones
So Mayorkas didn't lose the children.
He disappeared them and even ended, we now learn, secretly four years ago, right when they got in.
The DNA testing passed by Congress that's cheap and quick and easy to find out if somebody that doesn't have documents is with a little kid, are they really their mother or father or aunt or uncle or cousin?
Or are they not a relation?
Why would you end that and not tell Congress?
That was a law to do that.
They violated the law.
dan friesen
So Alex is lying about a few things here.
Obviously, a lot of this program descends into how it's so great that Trump and Homan have found these missing kids.
Sure.
Weren't missing.
jordan holmes
Weren't missing.
dan friesen
But in terms of this DNA thing, the first lie that Alex is telling is that the DNA testing at the border, it wasn't put through as a bill through Congress.
In reality, it started in a pilot program that the first Trump administration launched in 2019.
The DNA tests are fairly cheap and fast, but they aren't designed to stop human trafficking.
They're meant to break up families.
This wasn't done universally, and immigrants could refuse to provide DNA samples, so ultimately, it's really hard to tell if this was even effective at doing anything.
In 2023, Biden announced that they were going to stop doing the DNA testing, and now there's a push from members of Congress to introduce bills to require it be done.
But Alex is just fraudulently presenting this whole thing as a...
Mayorkas under the Biden administration stopped this in order to steal all these kids that Tom Homan is now finding.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's just trash.
It's just utter garbage.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's nuts.
dan friesen
Yep.
unidentified
What are people doing?
jordan holmes
What are people doing wanting DNA tests?
What are people doing?
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
You know, I think that there is actually a positive end of it.
Which is that it can be used to firmly establish that you are related to somebody.
Claims that you aren't can be disproven through the DNA testing.
The initial impetus, a lot of it, bringing in the DNA testing, as I recall, was that you're trying to reunite.
some of these families that were separated at the border.
That was a lot of the intention behind putting in some of these pilot programs.
Right.
unidentified
But in the real world, family patterns aren't all genetic.
dan friesen
And, you know, you could have a stepchild that you're coming across the border with.
You wouldn't have a DNA match with them necessarily.
Yeah.
unidentified
And this is what requiring the DNA tests...
dan friesen
And that is really about.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's about disrupting those families' structures.
unidentified
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
It's crazy.
It's just, like, the more technologically advanced we get, the more just the, like...
Well, listen, we don't use the shape of your skull anymore.
That would be fucking stupid.
No, we categorize you based on some other shit that we're doing.
Like, it's ridiculous.
It's never going into a good place.
Physiognomy is never going to a better place.
Right.
You know?
dan friesen
And Alex should, I mean, on some level, be pretty concerned about the idea of the government.
Requiring DNA tests, even if it is for, like, people coming into the country.
jordan holmes
You don't know what the government is saying about the DNA test?
You can't read a DNA test!
They could make it all up!
That's the most abusable thing to know that you could possibly have.
dan friesen
Yeah, but Alex will talk to some dipshit who has a substack, and then he'll understand DNA perfectly.
Or listen to a clip of like a Rogan episode.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's just, you could make anything up with that and no one would know.
Nobody's a DNA scientist.
dan friesen
No one?
jordan holmes
I mean, going through this process?
dan friesen
You think that there are no DNA scientists in the world?
jordan holmes
Somebody who's just going to be able to by sight be like, oh, that is my DNA.
That's what I mean.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
You know, somebody who can, like, they give you a printout and they're like, oh, this is your DNA.
How would you know?
dan friesen
Okay, so you're not disputing DNA as a thing?
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
Just making sure.
I understand that concept.
I'm saying that on a look, like, they would have it and they would just tell you.
dan friesen
Well, you know, like, in movies when there's, like, two transparencies that they slide?
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying!
dan friesen
That's what Alex is thinking.
jordan holmes
That's what I think he is thinking!
dan friesen
He's imagining...
jordan holmes
That's not real!
dan friesen
No, it's not.
So, uh...
Basically, we have this storyline that's going on about these 300,000 missing kids and Tom Homan and the ice, and they're finding them.
And so a lot of the show involves Alex just sort of talking around this.
There's nothing to report.
There is nothing that is happening.
But he has a lot of feelings, and some of it is fairly disgusting.
alex jones
Oh, man, Trump's done more than Mayorkas did in four years, finding the kids, finding them.
They disappeared them.
Somebody robs a bank and gets off with $50,000, and the cops find out where they are and go bust them at their safe house.
They don't get charged with, we're charging you with losing $50,000.
You're charged with stealing $50,000 in an armed robbery.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
and you're charged with armed robbery.
They're doing it all deliberately.
Stop saying they're incompetent!
And now we've got the administration saying, oh, they're not incompetent.
They were involved.
We're going to prosecute them.
You bet they are.
It's the right thing to do.
For the victims, it stops the smugglers doing it again, so you have to.
It's justice.
But the big reason is it's going to destroy the Democrats forever and put them on total defense.
Do it now.
Start arresting the NGOs and the non-profits that already have all the documents, and they'll all sing like canaries on their bosses, and then we'll indict every single one of the kingpins.
And they're going to be living in Supermax prisons if they're lucky.
Oh, you want a war?
unidentified
You got one I There's a wind outside.
alex jones
Hear that sound?
It's vengeance.
unidentified
Is that what that's?
alex jones
It's those raids coming.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
All years, that car driving on the highway a few miles away.
alex jones
The wind.
But you know what's coming.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Not a knock at the door, but your door getting knocked off the hinges.
A SWAT team's finally given a real moral target to hit.
Bad guys aplenty!
And people that want to get them.
Oh, we'll get you.
You're in our jaws now.
dan friesen
So the 300,000 kids that Alex is pretending are missing, they're not missing.
All this is based on an intentionally misrepresented and weaponized statistic about immigrant children who had not been contacted for a court appearance over their status.
Alex and the folks on his end of the media have turned this into a bedrock of their narratives because it's very understandably offensive.
The idea that 300,000 children could have been kidnapped and trafficked at the border is a shocking notion, and all right-thinking people would be motivated to stop whatever was causing that.
It's a bullshit propaganda narrative, but it's very understandable and emotionally resonant why somebody might agree to something difficult to accept based on wanting to stop this, like the idea of government agents doing armed raids on people in the middle of the night.
In the real world, the people who will be caught up in these kinds of raids are your neighbors, who may have overstayed a visa or are just here undocumented.
When Alex is descending into that disturbing voice about vengeance, on some level he knows that the people who are going to be hurt by this shit are predominantly the vulnerable people just trying to live their lives, and that's what he wants.
He views the existence of non-white immigrants in the United States as a threat to the political control he feels he's entitled to as a white Christian man.
He wants everyday folks to be terrorized and thrown out of the country, but he also knows that shit like that's pretty ugly, and most people aren't into it.
So, you just tell the audience a different story.
You tell them that these armed raids are freeing imaginary kidnapped children, and all of a sudden, you're disgust and growling.
It looks heroic.
It's repulsive.
And don't for a single minute kid yourself into thinking that Alex doesn't know that the whole line about 300,000 missing kids isn't real.
If he's done any research into the subject, he knows that he's just repeating a bullshit talking point.
So the only way that he could really think this is real is if he didn't look into it at all.
And if he didn't look into it at all, that means he doesn't really give a shit.
So don't ever allow yourself to think that he actually cares.
He does not care.
He wants vengeance to be carried out on the enemy that he perceives, which is, you know, essentially immigrants, organizations that assist immigrants.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
That's it.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep, yep, yep.
It's so crazy to me.
Everybody is like, ah, the reason that we're doing all this stuff is because we hate the government and, you know, healthcare and stuff.
But then they won.
And they're not like, let's get healthcare.
They're not even like, let's do something about healthcare.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
They're not even about, let's do something.
dan friesen
Well, Alex is kind of about do something.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but this is weird.
And also, it's not something that they want to, like, they don't want to achieve the goal of getting rid of immigrants.
dan friesen
They want to growl about it.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
But if you achieve the goal of getting rid of immigrants, then you then have to just go after somebody else.
Your entire movement is going after somebody.
dan friesen
Well, eventually, at that point, you go colonial.
jordan holmes
Right.
Yeah, you have to go fucking take over other people.
You have to take other people's shit is the entire basis of what's going on for these people, right?
dan friesen
I don't think Alex hates the idea of taking Canada.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Fine.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I don't...
Why?
It's so big.
dan friesen
It is big.
jordan holmes
It's so big!
You don't need it.
dan friesen
Nah.
jordan holmes
Nobody needs it.
dan friesen
They got good syrup.
They invented syrup.
jordan holmes
We're gonna have to take it.
dan friesen
So, Alex was talking a bit about vengeance in that clip.
And you know vengeance is the Lord's.
jordan holmes
So saith he.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Maybe.
Maybe kinda.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, kinda?
The Lord is very much not a kinda guy.
dan friesen
But he works in mysterious ways.
You know what I'm saying?
jordan holmes
But not kinda mysterious.
alex jones
You're going as a political wood chipper.
And your feet are already in it.
And Donald Trump's got control of the throttle.
And you know where he's got the throttle?
Jammed all the way up to the top.
On high.
You see that?
You see where your feet are?
You see where your head's going?
Non-violently, politically lovingly?
You hear all that grinding down there?
unidentified
So.
No.
alex jones
So, vengeance is mine, saith the Lord.
I agree with the Bible 100%.
But it doesn't mean I can't warm my hands on that warm flame of God's vengeance that he executes through us his vessels.
dan friesen
Oh, so it's not really the Lord's then, is it?
jordan holmes
Pretty much not the Lord's.
dan friesen
I guess we just have to tell ourselves that we're carrying out the Lord's vengeance and that we enjoy it.
And then everything's cool.
jordan holmes
Okay, so maybe I just don't understand people very well, but whenever you say, I believe in the Bible 100%, that's a period.
But every time I hear people say I believe in the Bible 100%, it's followed by a comma and then but.
Not how God works.
dan friesen
Well, there's a lot of riddles.
jordan holmes
Not his style.
dan friesen
There's a lot of riddles.
unidentified
Fair enough.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You've waggled your eyebrows at me.
The viewing public couldn't see it.
dan friesen
So you can believe in the Bible, but also believe it's all riddles.
So it says a lot of things.
jordan holmes
You can't believe it's all riddles.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
The Bible is a book of riddles.
You know what?
That makes more sense to me.
dan friesen
The doctor was his mother.
jordan holmes
That makes as much sense to me as anything else.
So I'm fine with that.
dan friesen
I just, I in some ways have given up on trying to understand Alex's relationship to religion outside of it being the ultimate justification.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Valve.
jordan holmes
It's just whatever I want to do is religion.
dan friesen
It's a way of enabling his basest violent fantasies, but on a sort of celestial level.
jordan holmes
Society has told me that what I want to do is wrong, so society is wrong because God is right.
dan friesen
Right.
So we get back to this false flag thing of his, which is, again, just real dumb.
alex jones
And Trump's going to release the Epstein list, too, as soon as Kash Patel is confirmed.
I'll get into that coming up.
But since I mentioned this, here's the big one of all this.
They have pre-programmed and prepared, all of the media you've seen, we played the clubs, that Trump's going to attack migrants and go after groups of them, and he's going to kill them.
And they're going to use the military to kill them.
Hundreds of clubs.
CNN, MSNBC, New York Times.
Obviously, they're preparing a false flag on a group of Democrats with illegal aliens.
And I said, in Chicago, in L.A., somewhere like that, over and over again.
And people keep seeing these big demonstrations, hundreds, sometimes thousands, waving Mexican flags, all of it, saying, you know, screw America, we're not leaving all the rest of it, F America, you've seen the videos.
And people are saying, why is it Tom Homan going there?
They're right there.
It's a setup, and they're waiting, and they're going to start getting violent at these things, and when the police stand down, because they're a blue city, Then Trump constitutionally will have to send in the National Guard, and then somebody's going to set off a truck bomb or shoot into the crowd and blame the Trump administration.
Guaranteed.
dan friesen
So there's something that's been, like, in the back of my head, a little itch while Alex keeps talking about these false flag fantasies that he has.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Shouldn't Alex's problem with the idea of rounding people up at a protest over immigration policy be something other than it's a trap?
He's supposed to love the Constitution and all that so it feels like he should think that even though he doesn't agree with what these people are protesting for, it's not a crime to wave a Mexican flag or protest immigration policies.
This is subtly a pretty big clue about how full of shit Alex is when it comes to pretending to care about our country.
If it weren't probably a trap to make Trump look bad, it seems like he would all be in favor of federal agencies like ICE rounding people up at a protest, violating very basic civil rights that Alex is supposed to have based his career on protecting.
He's so full of shit, and he always has been, but this turn of events with Trump getting back into office has really forced his hand in terms of making a bunch of really overtly nonsense arguments and forgetting what he's supposed to be about.
If you see people saying, why isn't Tom Homan going and rounding people up at this demonstration, your response, as someone who cares about the Constitution, should be, that would be the government cracking down on free speech, which is the bedrock and the center of everything that our freedom comes from.
I love the idea of Elon Musk buying Twitter because of free speech stuff.
You're supposed to care about that.
But instead, the response is, You shouldn't do it because it's a trap.
That's weird.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I think for most people, free speech is very important up until the very moment whenever they don't care anymore.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
And in fact, would prefer that free speech not be free.
dan friesen
Which is fucked up for free speech absolutists.
jordan holmes
It is very difficult when you're an absolutist to not be an absolutist.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That is the hard part about being an absolutist.
dan friesen
Right.
I mean, I go back to the image in my head a lot, Putting duct tape on his own mouth that is a bumper sticker that says, like, free speech or something like that is such a perfect metaphor.
Because he doesn't give a fuck about free speech.
He's putting a piece of duct tape on his own mouth to sell it.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Fuck.
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway.
Yeah.
Alex, he's been in the game for a long time, right?
jordan holmes
Too long.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Too long.
dan friesen
Since the 90s.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And he says something in this next clip that I thought was like...
Oh, wow.
I don't think I even knew this.
alex jones
Folks, I've been around 31 years on air.
I've been active 34. When I was 17, 18, I mean, I worked for Pat Buchanan's campaign twice.
And I would just go out, counsel other events, hand out Pat Buchanan stuff, go to a Republican company.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
alex jones
And then you'd be in the parking lot and a guy would come up and go, hey, Alex.
I really like you.
You know, let's go get some lunch or something.
And I'd be like, you know what?
I got bombs in the back of my car.
I think we ought to blow up the Democrat.
unidentified
We ought to go blow up the Democrat headquarters.
alex jones
And I'd say, really, where's your car?
I'd say, hold on just a minute.
And I'd open the back of my Mustang, get an old, you know, mini VHS tank.
And I'd go, oh, really?
And I'd run to his car.
And I'd go, it'd be an unmarked...
Police car.
dan friesen
I don't care about that dumb story, but apparently he worked for Pat Buchanan's campaigns.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
That seems strange, right?
jordan holmes
That does seem strange.
dan friesen
I mean, on one level, it's not strange, because it's another segregationist that Alex supports.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
The Pat Buchanan of it makes sense.
dan friesen
Yeah, but electoral politics, like, that seems really weird.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
That Alex would have had a candidate back then.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
That's strange.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
And just, just, uh, just...
You know, for his personal mythology, though, he shouldn't already be a raving Pat Buchanan fan at 17, right?
dan friesen
Volunteering for the campaign, working on the campaign, as he says.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Absolutely not.
He's supposed to have been a Satanist.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
At that point.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is like, oh, you were just born like this asshole, you know?
Like, there is no backstory if you were 17 working for Pat Buchanan.
dan friesen
If you were 17...
And you worked on both of his campaigns, which would have been like 92 and 96. Crazy!
So if you were doing that, then at 18, your dad wanted to kick you out of the house because you kept getting people pregnant.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
How does any of this line up?
This doesn't make any sense.
jordan holmes
No, it makes no sense.
dan friesen
Stupid asshole.
jordan holmes
What person was...
That.
dan friesen
Well, I think a liar.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
I think a liar who has had their career enabled by their probably insane father.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that does sound right.
dan friesen
I think that's probably...
jordan holmes
That does sound correct.
dan friesen
Because the only thing that you can come back to over and over again is, like, none of this adds up.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
You're lying about your own mythology.
jordan holmes
You're lying about lying about lies.
dan friesen
Yeah, and you were lying then, too.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway, we have one last clip, and it's...
Something that we've heard.
He did a good job today.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
He did not.
He did not.
alex jones
I've been through this, been through this, been through this, been through this, been through this, been through this.
I got green moss growing on my back, people.
And I know what I'm talking about.
All right, I'm done.
Look, I didn't get into most of it.
But I did at least the deep dive.
You see how I get up here every day, and I go, you know, I got 20 stacks here, or 30 stacks here, or 40 stacks here, depending on the day, and I got 60-something videos, and, you know, if I just did one stack, it'd take hours.
Because it does.
Let me do one more, at least, before Chase comes in here.
But that's why they don't like this show, because I know what I'm talking about.
dan friesen
Yeah, they don't like this show because he knows what he's talking about.
I honestly don't give him credit for doing a deep dive on anything.
If that's what he's trying to be like, well, I didn't get to everything, but I got to one thing real well.
jordan holmes
Disagree.
dan friesen
Strong disagree.
Definitely not.
jordan holmes
I don't even know who's false flagging who, when, and at what point.
The plan begins or ends.
dan friesen
Well, that really is the issue with the way that Alex is setting it up, because he did say that there was a false flag after the military comes in.
And to my ears, based on how his shit works, that does require two false flags.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
There has to be one that brings in the military, and then one after the military.
And that seems confusing.
jordan holmes
That's an unnecessary!
One, a false flag, very difficult to pull off.
There's no good plan that has two false flags back-to-back?
Wrong.
Terrible.
dan friesen
Well, you know what it would be like.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So you know a fake punt.
jordan holmes
I do know a fake punt.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
What if...
unidentified
Yeah?
dan friesen
You're faking a punt.
jordan holmes
I'm listening.
dan friesen
And then the punter goes and looks like they're going to throw it.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But then they punt it.
jordan holmes
But then they re-punt it.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Double fake punt.
jordan holmes
Double fake punt.
dan friesen
Or...
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
They do a field goal after faking a punt.
jordan holmes
What if they fake the punt into a field goal?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Right.
They say they're going to punt.
They line up in punt formation.
Then they say they're going to field goal.
They run to kick it like a field goal, but then the guy holding the field goal ball takes it and then throws it for a pass.
So it's two fakes.
unidentified
Hmm.
dan friesen
I'm into it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This is the double false flag of football plays.
jordan holmes
The double false flag of football plays.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think that he's getting unnecessarily...
It's just complicated and dumb.
I just can't escape a certain feeling of like...
Dude, you don't need to do any of this shit anymore.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Your guy won.
They're demolishing the government.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
You don't need to do false flag stuff anymore.
jordan holmes
He should just be on offense.
If he can't be celebratory, if he can't be happy, because obviously he can't, because none of the stuff that he says that he wants is going to happen.
Well, none of the positive stuff.
Right, right, right.
It's only the stuff that he lies about not happening that is going to happen.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Right?
He could just go on offense.
Just be on offense towards anything.
dan friesen
He should.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but playing defense for Elon Musk and Donald Trump is the saddest gig.
unidentified
Well, that's what's...
dan friesen
Complicated about it.
It's like there's a playing defense for them, and then also a watching on the sidelines while they do offense, and being like, yay, we gotta be all offense!
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sucks.
dan friesen
Yeah, it just feels weak, and yeah, there's a part that you just kind of wish you'd...
jordan holmes
He feels weak.
It's the biggest feeling.
He tries so hard to not appear weak.
And this is the most weak I think he's ever appeared.
dan friesen
Well, I think a little bit of it has to be a recognition on his part that he has no use.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
For any of these people anymore.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Like, Roger Stone got as much as he could have out of Alex.
Yep.
But if you want to invest in a liar, there's better options on Twitter.
Oh, yeah.
You don't need him.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
He's outlived his usefulness.
I think he might recognize that on some level.
jordan holmes
Probably.
And yet, at the same time, is too crazy and too obsessed with himself to ever actually learn a lesson and leave.
dan friesen
Yep.
Or just, like, throw caution to the wind.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Go against this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Why not?
Fuck it.
dan friesen
Be interesting.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Or gloat.
This is the thing.
I'm so disappointed you won.
At least enjoy the win like a human being.
dan friesen
So we'll check in on how this proceeds and see if Alex gets a new game to play at some point.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yeah, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZXClark.
I am the Mysterious Professor.
unidentified
Woo, yeah!
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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