#1011: January 28, 2025
In this installment, Dan and Jordan try to make sense of Alex celebrating the ideas of a return to the Monroe Doctrine, a rise of American empire, and the creation of a "prison planet" in El Salvador.
Feb. 24, 2025 - Knowledge Fight
01:37:42
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| I need money. | ||
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Andy in Kansas. | |
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your room. | ||
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Knowledge Fight. | |
| KnowledgeFight.com. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today, buddy? | ||
| My bright spot today is I was poking around on YouTube and I was recommended a video from Vice. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I thought, yeah, why not check this out? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It was a series that Jamali Maddox, who is on Taskmaster. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I knew him from there. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He was hanging out at the gun church. | ||
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Okay. | |
| You know that guy? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And so I gave it a whirl. | ||
| And I really enjoyed it, so I watched some more. | ||
| And I think it's really nice. | ||
| When I was in college, I used to really love Louis Thoreau's Weird Weekends. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And when he would go in bed with the Westboro Baptist Church. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| There's something about a British person. | ||
| Interacting kind of jovially with American weirdos. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| That's just great. | ||
| And he taps into that. | ||
| Like, Jamali is good at being this guy who's clearly... | ||
| Critical of what he's seeing on some level, but also not being hostile to the people to the point where they would throw him out. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And I find his presentation quite good. | ||
| I enjoy it. | ||
| And there's something very American about allowing a British person to just kind of insult you to your face and then not care. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, it's... | ||
| Him and Louis are both people who are able to present pretty harsh things. | ||
| But not in a way that feels like a criticism. | ||
| Yeah, see that's... | ||
| It's not just like, hey, you're an asshole. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's like, I don't know if I'm sure what you're doing is good. | ||
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And I'm fascinated by the ability to get to say that. | |
| There's never been a you bad that the British couldn't make six paragraphs long. | ||
| So anyway, I've enjoyed it. | ||
| I recommend it. | ||
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| My bright spot is you... | ||
| Yes, me. | ||
| You warned me about Warriors Abyss, a new video game. | ||
| And I thought I'd give it a try. | ||
| And I was like, oh, it's alright at first. | ||
| And then yesterday I played it for a good hour or two. | ||
| And then... | ||
| It hooked me. | ||
| I don't know what it is. | ||
| I don't know what happened, but it scratched the itch. | ||
| And now I'm just reveling in that thing that Dynasty Warriors games do so well, which is give you like 60 characters. | ||
| Every time you press a button, it's like, it's a little bit different. | ||
| It's not actually different. | ||
| You know in the back of your mind this is the same thing. | ||
| There's going to be some kind of an effect that goes across the screen or like some sort of different color of burst. | ||
| There's going to be a number that is associated with damage, etc. | ||
| Gets me. | ||
| They get me. | ||
| And the aesthetically different enough weapons. | ||
| It's dangerous on that level. | ||
| I was not meaning to warn you. | ||
| I thought that there's no way this would appeal to someone other than me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because I like a roguelike, and I like Dynasty Warriors. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so I felt like, oh, this isn't my sweet spot. | ||
| I didn't for a second consider that you would try it. | ||
| It hit me in the Hades spot. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's what it was. | ||
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Right. | |
| It hit me in the Hades spot. | ||
| It's got enough. | ||
| And it's like, it's almost like an inverse. | ||
| Because it takes place in hell, too. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| No, it's clearly they... | ||
| Played Hades and we're like, this would be great if we were making money off of it. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| But it's almost like an inverse proportion for Hades, where Hades had so much story, but then when you're going through, there was six weapons, you know? | ||
| There weren't too many ways to play the game. | ||
| Well, you get different boons and stuff. | ||
| That could change things a little. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| There's only six base weapons as opposed to a hundred. | ||
| As opposed to a hundred, yeah. | ||
| So there's very little story. | ||
| To no story. | ||
| But, you know, there's a hundred different people, and every time you go in through, you find out, this person attacks with a butterfly. | ||
| Hooray. | ||
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Yay! | |
| Next game. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Next one. | ||
| A hundred more. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Next one. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| This guy looks like a giant baby, and he's got a huge club. | ||
| What? | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Next. | ||
| The old man has a bow and arrow. | ||
| He's got a bow and arrow? | ||
| Next. | ||
| Wait. | ||
| Does that guy have a gun? | ||
| I finally unlocked Lou Boo this morning. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're in deep. | ||
| World Destroyer. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| It is ridiculous. | ||
| It is a completely different game when you unlock that character. | ||
| You're like, oh, why am I even trying? | ||
| I'm sure he's deeply overpowered. | ||
| Beep, beep, beep, next. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, it's bad. | ||
| And by the time, because he's furthest to unlock, by the time you get up to him, you probably have unlocked a lot of just general, every character upgrades and stuff. | ||
| Yeah, he's a monster. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| In every form. | ||
| It's brutality. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I did not get the bug from that. | ||
| I did not end up getting... | ||
| I just dabbled in it for a minute, and then I heard that there was a Ninja Turtles roguelike. | ||
| Which now I have to also get. | ||
| And so I jumped over to that. | ||
| So now you're going to get into that, because that's way more like Hades. | ||
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Oh, God. | |
| If you have the Hades itch, then that Ninja Turtles... | ||
| You have damned me to hell, my friend, and by getting me out of hell and into the sewers. | ||
| The only hope that I have, because I haven't really played much of this Ninja Turtles one, but the only hope that I have is that it goes deep. | ||
| I want so many characters you can play as. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| So far, I know that Casey Jones is in the game. | ||
| Excellent. | ||
| And the four turtles. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| But I need so many more. | ||
| Gonna need Splinter. | ||
| Well, Splinter has been kidnapped. | ||
| This is the premise of the game. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So maybe he unlocks if you save him or something. | ||
| Oh boy, yeah. | ||
| I mean, you should be able to fight a Shredder, right? | ||
| Well, Shredder's the bad guy. | ||
| Well, yeah, but I mean, later on... | ||
| Yeah, maybe. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, I'm not open... | ||
| I'm not closed off to New Game Plus having the villains in there. | ||
| But I'm talking about, like, that bunny. | ||
| Is it Usaki Yojimbo? | ||
| Yojimbo? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Usaki Yojimbo, yeah. | ||
| Baxter Stockman? | ||
| He's going to be a bad guy. | ||
| Who are the other good guys? | ||
| April? | ||
| I'd like to be able to fight as April? | ||
| Oh, you've for sure got to be able to fight as April. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you know, actually, that's a good point. | ||
| I don't remember too many of the good guys. | ||
| What's his face from Secret of the Ooze? | ||
| Well, there was Venus. | ||
| The pizza guy? | ||
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No. | |
| Pizza guy's out. | ||
| Secret of the Ooze is non-canonical. | ||
| I want to say that's canonical. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we have a canonical episode to go over of Alex's show. | ||
| We're going to be talking about January 28th, 2025. | ||
| Continuing on our path. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I was kind of thinking about, like, maybe we speed up a little bit, but there's enough to talk about in here that I'd like to bring a focus to some of this shit. | ||
| Excellent. | ||
| So, we'll get down to business on this, but first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Ooh, that's a great idea! | ||
| So first, the prophetic future tense is a literary technique which describes future events that are so certain to happen in the past tense as if they had already happened, commonly used in religious texts and by Alex Jones. | ||
| Thank you so much for now, Policy Wong. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, bird-friendly Wilford Brimley. | ||
| Thank you so much for now, policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Is that a vocal warm-up? | ||
| No idea. | ||
| Next, Merry Christmas, Anne. | ||
| Congrats on making it through the back catalog. | ||
| Thank you so much for now, policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan. | ||
| So thank you so much to Mary. | ||
| Merry Christmas from Mr. Chipotle. | ||
| I support these two schmucks as a gift for you because I know how shocked you'd be hearing your name yelled by Dan. | ||
| Love you, boo-boo. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're not a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | |
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| So there's a lot going on in the world. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| There's a ton happening. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And, you know, a lot of that you don't get a sense of from Alex's show. | ||
| He's pretty happy about how mean Tom Holtman is. | ||
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Sure. | |
| 20 out of 10. He loves Elon Musk. | ||
| 200 out of 500. | ||
| A lot of the specifics get kind of lost. | ||
| Yeah, I can imagine. | ||
| A lot of the news stories end up not getting covered while Alex rants about nothingness. | ||
| Strange choice of life to lead, but okay. | ||
| Well, I mean, on our last episode, a fair amount of time was taken up with... | ||
| Werner Von Braun prophesied the coming of Elon Musk who will bring us to Mars. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Seems like a waste of time. | ||
| That does feel like something that we could just dispense with entirely. | ||
| It almost feels a little bit like I've got to fill this time with dark journalist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So this is what we're going to talk about. | ||
| What else are you going to talk about with Dark Journalist? | ||
| I just wouldn't talk to him. | ||
| I strongly support that. | ||
| But, I mean, if you're stuck in a, we gotta talk to Dark Journalist, might as well get to Nazi Prophecies. | ||
| I guess so. | ||
| So we start off here on the 28th, and it's kind of just a rumination about how Trump's beating the shit out of these globalists. | ||
| These globalists, they're getting worked. | ||
| Busy eight days. | ||
| Alright, I'm going to be very calm about this. | ||
| But I am here to tell you that I have been studying constantly every facet of what Trump's doing, and I can't even keep up with it. | ||
| This is absolutely plotted out by incredibly smart people. | ||
| I know that this broadcast and our suggestions have been absolutely taken up like mother's milk by a baby, and I am so proud of this audience of activists keeping us in attack. | ||
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Formation through all these attacks. | |
| And Trump is just devastating the living shit out of the globalists. | ||
| I mean, it is unbelievable. | ||
| And yeah, we can bitch about this little thing or that thing, but in the whole, this is earth-shaking, globalist-destroying, irrevocable. | ||
| absolutely easy Absolutely irrevocable to the globalist. | ||
| It is incredible. | ||
| He really does not seem to care at all about swearing on air anymore. | ||
| This is like less than a minute into the show he's dropping shit. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Well, yeah, but it is reflective of how much bullshit it is when he says, like, we're on 400 radio stations. | ||
| No, you're not. | ||
| No, you absolutely are not. | ||
| You're on Twitter. | ||
| You are by yourself. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's, I mean, it makes his swearing, it does feel a little better now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, it doesn't feel as, like... | ||
| 12-year-old getting away with saying a curse. | ||
| Boy. | ||
| That actually kind of felt a little bit organic. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Those early days. | ||
| Those early days whenever he would, like, put a fuck in there and you were like, ugh, don't do that. | ||
| Well, I think there was too much trepidation about, like, this is actually going to be a problem with the radio stations. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| I'm going to have to, I'm going to get a phone call for saying fuck so it comes out all wrong. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now, let it fly. | ||
| Let it go. | ||
| Shit this! | ||
| So, um, the cartel. | ||
| Which cartel? | ||
| Great question. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| His czar has said, we are declaring war. | ||
| And he said for the last few months, he said, as soon as we start actually shutting down the human trafficking and the fentanyl and the sex slavery, the cartels are going to try to kill federal agents and others. | ||
| And when they do, we're going to come in with the military and we're going to slaughter them. | ||
| And so the... | ||
| Mexican cartels don't understand there's any sheriff in town. | ||
| They walked into their trap. | ||
| They just tried to ambush. | ||
| Down on the Texas-Mexico border yesterday, really dramatic drone footage of the Mexican cartels trying to kill the Border Patrol and shooting up their vehicles, and then the Border Patrol firing back. | ||
| It is dramatic. | ||
| And a few days ago, they shot hikers across the border in California, shot a mountain biker. | ||
| The days of them just running around murdering everybody and the Border Patrol being shot at and told not to shoot back is over. | ||
| And so, if Mexico really wants the Marines to invade again, you're about two inches away from it. | ||
| And Trump stopped playing games. | ||
| He's looking for somebody to cross the United States so we can get back to where we were. | ||
| I'm sorry? | ||
| And that's Fortress America. | ||
| And that's America expanding. | ||
| I'm sorry? | ||
| But by business deals. | ||
| Yeah, so this is what Alex's vision of peace entails. | ||
| Hoping Mexico will give us a reason to go to war with them. | ||
| Talking about Orwell is a little bit hacky in Conspiracy World, so I won't call this Orwellian. | ||
| But it's something. | ||
| A dramatic ambush, the thing that Alex is talking about here, was some people in Mexico's side of the border firing shots at Border Patrol agents, Border Patrol agents shooting one shot back, and no one getting hurt. | ||
| The news reports them as, quote, suspected cartel members, but I'm noticing this a lot, that there's no substantiation of the cartel connection whenever this title is used. | ||
| It very well may be the case that these people are involved with the cartel. | ||
| But it's also quickly becoming a catch-all term that I think could get weaponized pretty easily, and I think we're seeing that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also, those other cases, you know, there's that... | ||
| We talked about the guy who got shot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Suspected cartel member. | ||
| I'm going to go ahead and say this. | ||
| These days... | ||
| If we're talking about the Trump Border Patrol and the Trump ICE and the Trump cops, I don't think I trust what they're saying. | ||
| I don't think they're trustworthy narrators anymore. | ||
| I think that there was good reason to worry before. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Always a grain of salt with... | ||
| Cops lie. | ||
| It's okay for them to lie. | ||
| It happens sometimes. | ||
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It's okay. | |
| It's legal. | ||
| But now... | ||
| I think maybe more. | ||
| I wouldn't trust a goddamn word any of them fucking say about goddamn anything. | ||
| The sky is blue? | ||
| You fucking liars. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| I am in a position where I think I require a little bit extra proof than maybe I used to. | ||
| Benefits of doubts and whatnot. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| So... | ||
| When you talk about getting information, you want to have good sources. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| When you're someone like Alex, who's like God's chosen warrior. | ||
| God's a great source. | ||
| Well, he would be. | ||
| But Alex prefers to go other routes. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We know their attacks. | ||
| We know who they are. | ||
| We know their organizations. | ||
| We know their dark money. | ||
| And we're watching their ass like a hawk. | ||
| And when I say we're watching them, you're watching them. | ||
| You know where I find 90% of us is... | ||
| Don't say it. | ||
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You. | |
| Posting under my post on X. Email. | ||
| The crew brings me a lot of stuff. | ||
| But I'm digging through everything. | ||
| But the really good stuff comes from you. | ||
| Now, on the Bill Gates thing, everybody's like, look, these are fake doctors. | ||
| It's this dark money group. | ||
| And I went, that's Bill Gates' group. | ||
| Of course, five seconds later, yeah, I knew it was his group. | ||
| So, that's what we're doing. | ||
| Yeah, that is what you're doing. | ||
| Dumb shit from Twitter. | ||
| I can't, you know, sometimes when he says it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's even more shocking for him to say it. | ||
| Because it's rude. | ||
| We all know that's what you're doing. | ||
| But the contract is, you'll pretend that it's not what you're doing. | ||
| If you have awareness of it, you should be embarrassed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You should feel bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You should feel bad. | ||
| I just get on my show and whine about various things people... | ||
| Comment on my Twitter account. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| This makes me feel bad. | ||
| Great. | ||
| So, he said that he wants Fortress America. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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That's not good. | |
| No, it's not. | ||
| No. | ||
| But it gets worse. | ||
| Okay, great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then some are saying, well, this new Fortress America thing. | ||
| Yeah, it's going to make the country strong. | ||
| And yeah, Trump's for real. | ||
| He's taking over, but he's kind of building his own new thing. | ||
| Scott Ritter. | ||
| Like, criticizes Trump and then says, but he supports it. | ||
| But Scott's smart. | ||
| He knows that this is the classic American system. | ||
| I mean, manifest destiny. | ||
| And expansion. | ||
| You're either expanding or you're dying. | ||
| Instead, we were being cut up and turned into a third world hellhole and becoming globalists' footstool. | ||
| So I'm not for an American empire of military. | ||
| I am for an American empire of ideas and culture. | ||
| And industry. | ||
| And then everybody's just going to want to join us. | ||
| But we've got to check the country. | ||
| We've got to check the system. | ||
| We've got to, you know, make alliances and things. | ||
| And of course, we need to get Greenland. | ||
| I'm sorry? | ||
| And of course, we need to have nation-to-nation agreements, not through the UN. | ||
| So this is not the new world order the globalists wanted. | ||
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It's... | |
| the Monroe Doctrine. | ||
| This is so goddamn stupid coming out of Alex's mouth. | ||
| He wants to bring back the Monroe Doctrine. | ||
| Is he concerned that France is colonizing someplace in the Western Hemisphere and that needs to be stopped? | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Alex is just throwing spaghetti at the wall here and none of this should be taken too seriously. | ||
| He just wants to live in a right-wing dictatorship because he's convinced himself that he'll be free of the consequences of living in a right-wing dictatorship because he's a crazy right-wing dude who's white and Christian. | ||
| Alex seems to be pretending that countries don't have one-on-one relations in addition to the larger multilateral agreements and those bodies that exist in the world. | ||
| That's stupid, and Trump isn't going to bring back having one-on-one agreements with other countries. | ||
| He's going to normalize relations between the US and hostile foreign governments like Russia and North Korea against the wishes of the international community and long-standing US policy. | ||
| The one-on-one relations are going to be things like him trying to make condos in North Korea, not negotiating a real peace in some country that's in conflict. | ||
| This is all pretty much the level of a farce, and someone who was sold on Alex's InfoWars message like 15 years ago should be horrified by this. | ||
| The guy who doesn't trust the federal government to regulate highways is secretly in favor of manifest destiny? | ||
| These are the kinds of moments that should make it blatantly clear to anyone listening to him that he never believed that shit that he preached to begin with. | ||
| It was all just the best way to Trojan horse his real beliefs to a wider audience. | ||
| Also, why isn't he mad about Scott Ritter being a sex offender? | ||
| Shouldn't he be more concerned about that than the little different I mean... | ||
| I'm... | ||
| I'm surprised, one, he's not caught up in a very effective task force that I'm hearing about from Tom Homan. | ||
| One of those problems should have handled the other. | ||
| And two, so we're good with Manifest Destiny. | ||
| And we need Greenland. | ||
| Now, I'm going to just say, from my American perspective, that means we're either going to make Greenland part of America, thus increasing the number of people who we call Americans, I mean, that's like reverse immigration, is that we immigrated on top of you, which is an interesting problem to have. | ||
| And then second, or if we're not going to make the mistake, that it's taxation without representation. | ||
| Alex thinks people from Greenland are white. | ||
| Right! | ||
| He considers them white, it's fine. | ||
| I mean, I understand the concept why it's okay, but eventually it will very much be not okay, right? | ||
| I mean, nothing they want is ever okay. | ||
| Yeah, that's fair. | ||
| Like, all their stupid plans eventually end up some terrible... | ||
| We've colonized Mexico! | ||
| Ha ha ha! | ||
| You can't immigrate to us! | ||
| We immigrated to you! | ||
| It's all just a bunch of nonsense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think... | ||
| I just think it's important, as we're seeing the laying out of the beginning of Trump's second term... | ||
| To see these things that are direct invalidations of, like, you cannot possibly be someone who believes the stuff that Alex's career is built on and act this way. | ||
| Those beliefs have to have been fake. | ||
| And I think that there's value in pointing this out. | ||
| Not in, like, a ha-ha, you're a hypocrite kind of way, but in an illustrative way. | ||
| That can be helpful when you run into the next Alex Jones. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Who's trying to sell you on some kind of idea about liberty and all this shit when really what they want is a very cruel, harsh Monroe Doctrine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It is ultimately like we should be learning from this past 30 years exactly what the liars... | ||
| You should know where they're lying. | ||
| And that people are still susceptible. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| It's an issue that we can have a lot of insight into and understand how the mechanics of this works, but it is still very dangerous. | ||
| People still engage in this. | ||
| So Alex rambles about how thrilled he is about how the Border Patrol is going to kill a bunch of people. | ||
| Great! | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| So now they have again and again tried to kill the Border Patrol and killed some in cases. | ||
| And so you're going to have a lot of Mexican drug cartel people that are going to start getting killed. | ||
| And their bosses are going to get killed. | ||
| And so the Mexican drug cartels have had a free hand down there bullying their people and others that come through there. | ||
| And I'm going to tell you, they're going to be pushing Daisies up real fast. | ||
| So, the Army's going to be killing them. | ||
| RDR. | ||
| The Marines are going to be killing them. | ||
| RDR. | ||
| I'm sorry? | ||
| Turn loose other groups. | ||
| And you're dead! | ||
| So, enjoy! | ||
| Hundreds of thousands of Americans killed by fentanyl, supplied by the Communist Chinese and the Mexican drug cartels. | ||
| You're dead, dead, dead. | ||
| Alex says that they've killed Border Patrol officers then mutters in cases because he's trying to combine stories that he can't actually combine. | ||
| There was the story about a couple of guys shooting over the border where no one got hurt, and then there was the separate story from a little bit back about the Border Patrol agent who was killed in Vermont. | ||
| That has nothing to do with the border of Mexico, but Alex wants to superimpose that death onto this story so he can get the most benefit from it. | ||
| It's very clear what Alex is doing here, which is cheering on the killing of immigrants by the U.S. military. | ||
| Based on literally everything he's ever pretended to believe, Alex shouldn't be in favor of this. | ||
| But again, the principles were a costume. | ||
| It's clips like this that highlight why it's very important how loose the term cartel member has gotten with the right-wing media and politicians. | ||
| If Alex believes that it's appropriate for soldiers and Marines to kill cartel members, what level of evidence does he require to accept that someone the military kills was actually in the cartel? | ||
| He shouldn't believe the military is right to kill them, even if they are in the cartel. | ||
| But leaving that aside, if Alex makes that okay, he's essentially saying that the military can kill whoever they want, so long as they tell him that they were in the cartel. | ||
| This bloodthirsty right-wing kind of mentality, this was what he was supposed to exist in opposition to in the days of 9-11 with the term terrorist. | ||
| Like, this game is something that he... | ||
| Presented himself as the opposite of, the other side of. | ||
| The deaths of people in other countries and the violation of liberties of people here were hand-waved away by people saying that they were terrorists or suspected terrorists. | ||
| Alex knows all of this. | ||
| His career has spanned through that time, and he's been critical of how the police state tried to excuse their bad actions by just saying terrorist. | ||
| He knows exactly what... | ||
| what he's doing. | ||
| He just thinks that he's close to power now, whereas he knew that George Bush was too ambivalent about bringing back segregation and they could never really work together. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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That's the difference. | |
| Basically. | ||
| If Trump had been around then and he felt like another George Wallace type was possible, he would have gone all in on terrorist labeling after 9-11. | ||
| Yeah, I mean... | ||
| Yeah, it was the easiest thing for him to do in the world to be like, see Obama bombed another wedding and then he called him terrorist. | ||
| That's the easiest thing to do in the world if you're Alex Jones. | ||
| Which is why he did it. | ||
| Which is why he did it. | ||
| But if you don't actually give a fuck, then you're lying. | ||
| You're a lying piece of shit who just wants to, who just doesn't like that it's the wrong brown people, I guess. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And you recognize the power of the game. | ||
| The alienation, the othering, the term being so vague as to, like, and scary, that you can justify... | ||
| Cartel! | ||
| Terrorist! | ||
| Cartel cuts people's heads off! | ||
| True. | ||
| Just like the terrorists do! | ||
| Right. | ||
| So you know the power of manipulatively and abusively using that language to such a broad... | ||
| Population. | ||
| Fucking everybody should at this point. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And Alex's complaint when he was talking about Obama justifying attacks or whatever by saying that they're suspected terrorists or whatever, he wasn't concerned with the actual behavior. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He was just mad that the side he's opposed to is using a tactic that he knows is powerful. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now he's perfectly happy to use the same tactics. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Because he's a piece of shit. | ||
| Yeah, well. | ||
| Anyway, if you have fentanyl... | ||
| Trump's going to kill you. | ||
| Trump's just straight up going to kill you. | ||
| That seems like not the way to solve a problem. | ||
| Well, fentanyl's in a dead person's hand now. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Now, the big cartel that runs Puerto Vallarta is out of there. | ||
| That one years ago came out. | ||
| It's been killing any of their members that are caught selling fentanyl because they knew Trump was coming back. | ||
| And they've been in the news. | ||
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What? | |
| They said Trump's going to probably end up back in and he's going to kill us. | ||
| We've been told that by him through the, through in many areas, but Trump's been behind the scenes saying, when I get back in anybody caught with fentanyl, you're dead. | ||
| And I mean the leadership, all your sons dead. | ||
| We're going to kill you. | ||
| All right. | ||
| We're going to come back and play the clips. | ||
| This doesn't seem like a tenable position for Alex to have. | ||
| Like if all you need for the U.S. president to be justified in sending the military in to kill you and your family is that you're somewhat connected to a drug ring. | ||
| Why should Alex have been against the war in Afghanistan? | ||
| The low bar for what he'll accept as a good cause for the U.S. to use deadly military force. | ||
| It's just unsustainable. | ||
| There's no war that he couldn't support given this level like this. | ||
| This type of celebration of killing. | ||
| I think what he was trying to say was that in preparation for Trump... | ||
| Murdering families. | ||
| The cartel leaders are already murdering families of their own, if I understand that correctly. | ||
| Because they don't want to get people caught with fentanyl because Trump is going to kill them. | ||
| And their families. | ||
| Yeah, so then they killed them and their families? | ||
| Is that what I'm to understand from Alex? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think he just likes violent fantasies. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's probably true. | ||
| So look, he likes violent fantasies. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But you know what he doesn't like? | ||
| Protesters. | ||
| He does not like people exercising their First Amendment rights. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| So he talks about that as it relates to immigration issues. | ||
| Great. | ||
| And then he gets lost thinking about a new Marvel movie. | ||
| That'll happen. | ||
| That'll happen. | ||
| In Dallas, we've seen the worst with the illegal aliens waving their Mexican flags. | ||
| Now, tackling and beating up Trump supporters and taking away their American flags and stomping on them. | ||
| Boy, these folks really love America, don't they? | ||
| Now, obviously the vast majority of Hispanics that come here want to be American and they're great people and there's record numbers of Hispanic Americans that voted for Trump. | ||
| They are just as disgusted or probably more so by these people than other Americans are. | ||
| But... | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| America's not living on its knees anymore, and we're not taking it anymore. | ||
| And you got all the leftist scum and antifa out there with him as well. | ||
| And then this thing about, oh, we're Native Americans, so we can be wherever we want. | ||
| That's all taught by the big foundations, by the UN, by the globalists who want to break this country up. | ||
| By the way, I'll get to this coming up. | ||
| Disney's new Captain American, the new black Captain American, just decided to set his box office prospects on fire. | ||
| You know, America would love a black Captain America. | ||
| And he was the former, you know, buddy of the white Captain America. | ||
| What are we doing here? | ||
| Well, now the leftist has said, Captain America has nothing to do with America. | ||
| That's a quote. | ||
| I'll play the video. | ||
| Now, have you ever heard of more doublespeak? | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| Kerry last year repeatedly said, we've got to cut off half the farming in the world. | ||
| We've got to reduce farming by half to cut emissions or people will starve. | ||
| We've got to cut food off or people will starve. | ||
| And now Bill Gates officially says trees are bad for the earth. | ||
| They put off carbon, cut them down too. | ||
| So Kerry didn't say that we need to reduce farming or starve, and Bill Gates didn't say trees are bad. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He invested in a company that works to thin out densely forested areas in California, something that Alex is supposed to be in favor of in terms of fighting forest fires. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex doesn't even know what Gates is doing because he's just skimmed a headline or saw a tweet. | ||
| Who gives a shit? | ||
| Also, consider me just taken completely off guard by the revelation that Alex doesn't like a black Captain America. | ||
| I'm flabbergasted. | ||
| I'm flabbergasted. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It's divisive. | ||
| It would be more fun if it was Captain America KKK. | ||
| That would have been great. | ||
| It's fascinating because Alex is like a character in, like, Falcon and the Winter Soldier. | ||
| Yep, yep, yep, yep. | ||
| We can't have a black Captain America! | ||
| Oh, it's interesting that you would say that, like the people in the movie. | ||
| Yeah, so Alex complains about that a little more. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| So Captain America. | ||
| Should not represent... | ||
| It should not represent America. | ||
| Captain America has nothing to do with America. | ||
| That'd be like saying the NFL has nothing to do with the National Football League. | ||
| Or Jesus has nothing to do with Christianity. | ||
| And you're like, that's so ridiculous. | ||
| Everything they do, it's PSYOP people. | ||
| Oh, put that back up. | ||
| I didn't even know about that. | ||
| Captain America Brave New World alternative trailer includes new footage after removing assassination attempt. | ||
| Give me that article. | ||
| Oh, that'll be exciting to hear about. | ||
| That'll be great. | ||
| And probably have a bunch of important data points about God's plan against the devil. | ||
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| So Anthony Mackie was speaking at a promotional event in Rome and explained that, quote, to me, Captain America represents a lot of different things, and I don't think the term America should be one of those representations. | ||
| It's about a man who keeps his word, who has honor, dignity, and integrity, someone who's trustworthy and dependable. | ||
| points here. | ||
| The first is the very obvious fact that he was in Rome and was trying to sell the movie to a crowd in Italy. | ||
| If all you see when you look at Captain America is America, then the international audience is never really going to take an interest in that character. | ||
| And if you're trying to sell a movie, obviously you would want to make it more relatable. | ||
| The second thing is that Mackie, what he's getting at is what makes Captain America Captain America. | ||
| When he thinks of the character, he thinks of the traits that the character embodies, as opposed to the flag he's decked out in. | ||
| The reason Steve Rogers was chosen to be Captain America and the reason Sam Wilson is chosen to be his successor is because they embody those characteristics which the powers that be want to make synonymous with America. | ||
| A ton of the media surrounding Captain America has to do with the idea that the shield doesn't make him a superhero. | ||
| It's those honorable qualities. | ||
| It's really basic in the text, and Alex won't engage with media that challenges his very dumb and rigid worldview at all, and I find it super funny. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I'm pretty sure. | ||
| Now, I could be wrong, but in... | ||
| Literally every Captain America movie, one of the biggest things that Captain America does is disregard everything that the American government says because the American government does not represent America. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was against the Sokovia Accords. | ||
| Yeah, he's against America. | ||
| Or the registration of superheroes. | ||
| Because the government is fucking Hydra in the other one, so you can't trust the government, but America is its people as embodied by the person of Captain America. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I'm bewildered by Alex's... | ||
| To not understand that Captain America is not a jingoistic character by definition because it is more interesting for it not to be a jingoistic character. | ||
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| It's ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah, and that he just seems to embody a dumb, sort of villainous side character in the movies themselves. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, it's life imitating art in some way. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because he's so dumb. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, did you know that you can steal in California? | ||
| Steal what? | ||
| Anything. | ||
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Okay. | |
| That's an assault on the nation, just like defunding the police or defunding the fire departments. | ||
| What do you think's going to happen? | ||
| The breakdown of society. | ||
| California passes a law. | ||
| You can steal up to $2,000 a day from any store you want, and no one can stop you. | ||
| And then they rob the stores and half of them close. | ||
| Sounds true to me. | ||
| What type of government says you can rob $2,000 a day per store? | ||
| A smart one. | ||
| And then they come in some, you know, family-owned little convenience store and they go behind and get the lottery tickets, the cigarettes, and the families will start begging. | ||
| You've seen the videos, Indians and others, and they'll come arrest them when they buy back. | ||
| Ooh, white store owners do it. | ||
| They really get in trouble, but... | ||
| And they go, please, I don't have money. | ||
| I don't have insurance. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| And the person just shoveling cigarettes and lottery tickets and, you know, into the bag. | ||
| And then finally, the stop owners just start beating them up. | ||
| And then, oh, the Soros DAs have them indicted. | ||
| Just like Daniel Penny. | ||
| So that's a fun fantasy Alex just played out, but Daniel Penny wasn't a store owner. | ||
| He was a dude who killed a guy on a train and was found not guilty of criminally negligent homicide. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I don't know what kind of point Alex thinks he's making by bringing him up. | ||
| Also, just for any of our non-California listeners, this isn't true. | ||
| And for our California listeners... | ||
| Don't do this. | ||
| Don't do it. | ||
| Don't steal $2,000 worth of stuff from the store. | ||
| Count it up! | ||
| This is not a get-rich-quick scheme. | ||
| You will get arrested. | ||
| Read it through the register so you don't wind up stealing more than $2,000. | ||
| You'd have to be a fool not to do that. | ||
| In 2014, the citizens of California voted in favor of Prop 47, which made crimes like shoplifting or receiving stolen property a misdemeanor instead of a felony when the crime was nonviolent and the amount stolen was under $950. | ||
| Gavin Newsom didn't do some kind of silly, crime-loving dictator move here. | ||
| it was a ballot measure. | ||
| Then in 2024, there was another ballot measure, Prop 36, which changed some of this, making repeat shoplifters face felony charges, even if their theft was stuff less than $950 in value. | ||
| So in the real world, California made things tougher on shoplifters in 2024, but Alex is reporting the opposite because he's a liar. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Alex would also probably be horrified to learn that in Texas, it's a misdemeanor to Oh, my God. | |
| So it's basically... | ||
| Fine. | ||
| You could steal even more stuff in Texas. | ||
| That's not even a penalty. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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This dude has to be so embarrassed to say shit like this. | |
| The only way you could think that it's legal to steal whatever you want up to a certain value is if you literally have never been in public before, or you think the people you're talking to are complete idiots who maybe have never been in public themselves. | ||
| You have to be a special kind of stupid to think people in this situation, like this imagined Yeah, that would be insane. | ||
| A lot of stuff like, you know, the Powerball. | ||
| That's printed off by the cashiers, so it's difficult to steal. | ||
| But if you're just talking about scratch-off tickets, all of those are serial numbered, so they're super easy to report as stolen. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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If you won any big amount, you'd... | |
| Pretty much guarantee that you get arrested when you try to cash it in. | ||
| Ridiculous. | ||
| Ridiculous. | ||
| I've worked in gas stations before and they keep pretty close logs on those things because if you didn't, anyone who worked at a gas station or sold scratch-off tickets would have a free pass to print money. | ||
| Pretty crazy. | ||
| Most criminals understand this and they tend to stay away from lotto-related stuff because it involves the state. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| A ton of lotteries are state-owned. | ||
| Like, it's... | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Yeah, the regulation of that kind of shit is... | ||
| Criminals understand. | ||
| If you're gonna steal from the state, you don't do it in a way that might fail just purely based on luck. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's absurd. | ||
| The luckier you get, the more fucked you are. | ||
| I mean, absurd. | ||
| The, um... | ||
| I mean... | ||
| So, I worked at a gas station when I was, like, 18. And, of course, because I was stupid, smoked a lot of weed, didn't have a lot of experience in life, I thought, legit, okay, I have a shift. | ||
| I can just keep scratching off tickets. | ||
| Until I pay back what I have scratched. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| And come out ahead at the end of the day. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| I didn't do this. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| I got you. | ||
| But I thought that. | ||
| You were thinking right. | ||
| Until I learned about how tickets are handled and all that shit. | ||
| Because otherwise, you could do that. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| And you would usually break even and maybe hit something big. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You could. | ||
| I don't know what the math is on scratch-off lottery tickets. | ||
| Given unlimited tickets. | ||
| Eventually, it would even out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah, the reason that it doesn't even out for you is because you're not buying enough of them. | ||
| I feel like the deck is stacked against you. | ||
| Isn't that the idea of lotteries? | ||
| Ever so slightly. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| They skim it off the top. | ||
| But let's say you scratch off 3,000 tickets, and in there you win a $5,000 ticket. | ||
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| You're 2,000 ahead. | ||
| If there were one dollar tickets. | ||
| Okay, that's fair. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| That can happen. | ||
| Let's go put $3,000 into one ticket. | ||
| Let's not. | ||
| Anyway, criminals understand this. | ||
| Criminals do understand that. | ||
| But it's tough. | ||
| It's tough owning a store in California. | ||
| I like the idea of somebody going over the register and just shoveling packs of cigarettes. | ||
| Like, who's... | ||
| If you were walking by and somebody was doing that, you'd be like, hey man, that's wrong. | ||
| Just don't do that. | ||
| I'm pro people stealing shit most of the time, but that's too much! | ||
| Get out of here! | ||
| Especially if it's like a mom and pop. | ||
| Yeah, what are you doing? | ||
| Don't steal their cigs. | ||
| Rude! | ||
| So it's tough. | ||
| It's tough out there for shop owners in California. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And they can't even look up to Captain America. | ||
| Can you imagine owning a store in California or other states where they let people rob and someone comes in... | ||
| When you're living on tiny margins in your little gas station, you deal with armed robberies, homeless, everything. | ||
| And I know a lot of these store owners, and maybe the whole family that works there is altogether dividing up $300,000 a year between eight, nine people that work there. | ||
| So they're all making like 30, 40, 50, 60 grand a year apiece. | ||
| They're working long hours, and then people come in and just rob you of your stuff, and then you go bankrupt and close. | ||
| That's George Soros. | ||
| Is that George Soros? | ||
| To destroy. | ||
| There are little towns in Germany with 50-something people or 100 people. | ||
| Little tiny villages and they'll dump 500, 1,000 Muslim men on them. | ||
| And they complain they arrest you for being hateful. | ||
| That's war against the West. | ||
| We can't take it anymore. | ||
| And then we're supposed to be so embarrassed about being American that, oh, well, Captain America shouldn't have anything to do with America. | ||
| I mean, come on. | ||
| Next you're going to say that Terry Bradshaw has something to do with the Steelers. | ||
| I mean, that's ridiculous. | ||
| I don't think the New England Patriots should have anything to do in history with Tom Brady. | ||
| I mean, that's, I mean, come on. | ||
| So this is what happens when people fake populism. | ||
| You end up with this level of pretend concern about these store owners, which you're just faking in order to disguise your racism and xenophobia. | ||
| So, I don't care. | ||
| Incidentally, Chris Evans said almost identical things about the character of Captain America. | ||
| Of course he did. | ||
| But no, I'm not mad then! | ||
| Of course he did. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| It is strange. | ||
| Also, Alex's brain cannot make analogies. | ||
| Saying that Captain America isn't just about America isn't like saying that Terry Bradshaw has nothing to do with the Steelers. | ||
| It would be like saying that Terry Bradshaw has nothing to do with Bradshaw, which is a name that's derived from the Old English for broad thickets. | ||
| His name would have to be Terry Steelers in order for him, Alex, to make this connection. | ||
| That would make more sense, yeah. | ||
| The point about the Patriots is just as bad, but in the opposite direction. | ||
| They would need to be called the Bradys in order for this analogy to make sense with Tom Brady. | ||
| It's fine if Alex wants to say that he doesn't like how people try to sell movies to foreign audiences and it offends his sense of patriotism. | ||
| But it's obvious that that's not what this is about. | ||
| But he could make that argument if that was his actual complaint. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's not. | ||
| Also, once again, I'm not understanding the very concept of an individual in response to a government's action saying you shouldn't trust the government. | ||
| They do not have your best interests in mind. | ||
| I feel like that should be a message that Alex is pro. | ||
| He's not very thoughtful. | ||
| I feel like that might be true. | ||
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| So he plays a clip of some protesters, some immigration protesters. | ||
| People who think that the government has their best interests in mind. | ||
| He says something shocking. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right, here's some of the clips together. | ||
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Radio listeners, it's illegal aliens webbing Mexican flags, attacking people and beating them up with American flags, and stealing the American flag and stomping on it and throwing it. | |
| Just really friendly stuff. | ||
| I mean, if you went to Mexico and grabbed somebody at a Mexican parade and grabbed their flag, you'd get beat to death. | ||
| And you pretty much should. | ||
| I mean, you know, because they got a little pride in themselves. | ||
| I'm so sick of taking that. | ||
| So, I guess he's not so cool with free speech and seems very protective of flags. | ||
| If Alex thinks that the police should be protesters to death for desecrating the flag, then he doesn't care at all about the Constitution or his audience should eat him. | ||
| You know? | ||
| That's where we're at. | ||
| Yeah, that's absurd. | ||
| He can sidestep that a little bit by saying that the police shouldn't do the beating, but another citizen should be entitled to beat these protesters to death for desecrating the flag and waving another flag. | ||
| You get the sense that Alex wouldn't defend that position, though, across the board. | ||
| Like, let's say if... | ||
| I don't know, someone were to get beat up for waving a Confederate flag. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't think that he'd justify that. | ||
| He might have a different point of view on that. | ||
| Yeah, he wouldn't. | ||
| Because that would be hurting somebody's history and their, like, I suppose their heritage. | ||
| Somebody who cared about where they were from, who cared about their past, who cared about the nation. | ||
| You'd probably defend that person a little. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It seems to traditionally do that. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| Weird how that works. | ||
| Yeah, these standards are all over the place. | ||
| It does feel like there is not a single standard. | ||
| Except for anger. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| At the other. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex is talking about Trump's great negotiation skills. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| With foreign leaders. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And he says something that I think were there to be a god, lightning should have struck him. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Trump is sending Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, down to... | ||
| El Salvador and Bukale, Kelly has said that he's looking to make a deal with the United States to let them bring non-El Salvadorans there. | ||
| And that totally freaks out all the international drug gangs and the rest of them because, okay, you make a deal with us and pay us, we'll just keep them in our giant prisons. | ||
| And that, of course, will shut him off. | ||
| He's totally shut the crime off there. | ||
| So they're going to turn that nice little prison planet for him. | ||
| I want to be clear. | ||
| Alex knows he's endorsing and pushing for everything he's pretended to stand against his entire career. | ||
| He's celebrating Trump negotiating with the president of El Salvador to ship people to that country so El Salvador can lock them up there for a price, and Alex literally calls it a prison planet. | ||
| That's the name of his website. | ||
| That's his branding that he's now applying to this thing that he supports. | ||
| And that's because he always supported it. | ||
| After World War II, people who supported the Nazi party really wanted to downplay how much they knew that what they were doing was wrong. | ||
| Things like this, where Alex supports creating a prison planet in El Salvador for people that Trump deports, that should make clear to anyone looking back on this time that Alex Jones 100% knows that what he's supporting is wrong. | ||
| He conceptually understands that treating people like this is wrong, but he also knows that all of the cultural groups that he's a member of won't be subjected to this treatment, so he doesn't care. | ||
| It was always about white Christian identity. | ||
| There's just no reason to pretend. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So you can say, I want to send these people to a prison planet. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, and that's even if you wanted to be like, no, this is a smart thing to do. | ||
| I mean, based on his own arguments about the cartels and shit like that. | ||
| I would probably say that if you were going to take a bunch of people who have no connection to a place, no contacts at that place, and no amount of money to take care of themselves at that place, you have essentially given me a draft list of people who are going to join the cartels because they need so much fucking money. | ||
| It's absurd to think. | ||
| It's possible there could be that kind of unintended consequence. | ||
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It would be easy. | |
| It's the easiest. | ||
| Oh, hey, do you hate America? | ||
| Surprise, buddy! | ||
| You are... | ||
| We're on a team. | ||
| And it makes it a lot easier to really not like America when something that Captain America, Alex Jones, is cheering on is a for-profit incarceration and extraordinary rendition type program. | ||
| Like, Alex lived through this. | ||
| After the Iraq War and during the Iraq War, after 9-11, There were detention centers in third-party countries. | ||
| That's a huge shame on the United States record. | ||
| And one of the reasons that Alex was able to gain as much traction with his, oh, fuck the government kind of stuff, is because the government did do things like that. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And you could rightly think that he cared. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he doesn't. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| He does not care. | ||
| No, you know, there's no way not to know. | ||
| On account of you are making, the decision you are making is evidence that you know. | ||
| Because if you say, aha, we can't have this prison in America. | ||
| It's against the law. | ||
| Well, then the answer to that is you don't get to have that prison. | ||
| What if you pay? | ||
| We'll pay somebody in another country for it. | ||
| What? | ||
| No! | ||
| You're wrong! | ||
| Otherwise it would be legal here! | ||
| It's you who made it legal or illegal! | ||
| Seems like there'd be a nice incentive to keep those prisons full, too. | ||
| I mean, absolutely insane. | ||
| Oh, well. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, Alex goes to the first press conference that the press person is doing. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She does say that the New Jersey drones weren't aliens. | ||
| That's nice. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Were they? | ||
| I mean, I know they were suspected aliens for quite some time, but everybody was just saying, don't worry about it. | ||
| They were totally cool. | ||
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| Don't worry. | ||
| Don't worry about it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Some of it's like people like drones, all right? | ||
| I'm not going to worry about it then. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So there's one big story that Alex does touch on through this episode, and it's that Trump is firing a bunch of inspector generals. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And he keeps trying to cover this by not covering it and blurring the lines of what is actually going on. | ||
| So I said over and over again, it's a no-brainer. | ||
| It's not like I'm saying something really not known, but Trump must immediately remove the FBI director. | ||
| Well, he quit before that. | ||
| He must immediately put his people into all the key agencies. | ||
| He must immediately fire all the globalist U.S. attorneys. | ||
| He must immediately fire all these little illegal, and it turned out it was illegal. | ||
| Jack Smith was clearly not constitutional. | ||
| And then get rid of these crooks. | ||
| And that's his right to fire whoever he wants. | ||
| You got pencil neck Adam Schiff. | ||
| I got the clip here. | ||
| You don't want to hear from him, but I'll show you the transcript. | ||
| Oh, this is illegal. | ||
| He's just stuttering because it's not. | ||
| Reagan fired U.S. attorneys. | ||
| Clinton fired 98 of the 100, 98%. | ||
| Obama, half of them, on and on and on. | ||
| And so Trump's doing what must be done. | ||
| On this episode, Alex is trying to cover the story of Trump firing inspector generals or inspectors general. | ||
| Alex is attempting to rationalize that this is a good and just thing for Trump to do. | ||
| And the way he's arguing that is by saying that past presidents have fired U.S. attorneys and Trump was right to fire Jack Smith, who was a special prosecutor. | ||
| That's all good and well, but Alex is comparing apples and oranges here. | ||
| Inspectors general are not the same thing as US attorneys or a special prosecutor. | ||
| They exist specifically to be independent oversight entities within government agencies. | ||
| They're appointed by the president, but their role is meant to be strictly nonpolitical. | ||
| In essence, they serve as a safeguard to make sure the president can't just exploit government departments for their own purposes. | ||
| This is not like Trump replacing U.S. attorneys, which is a fairly common thing the presidents can do in a new administration. | ||
| This should be seen as a serious threat that Trump is making to the foundation of oversight within government agencies by attempting to place loyalists in positions that are meant to be watchdogs. | ||
| The move is very clearly illegal, and even Lindsey Graham acknowledges I mean, it's just blatantly illegal and horrific. | ||
| I mean, yeah, but, you know. | ||
| It's what you expect. | ||
| It's just a thing where there is no legal or illegal. | ||
| There's just who gets laws enforced on them. | ||
| And that's kind of it. | ||
| And it's really, really sad to see somebody who is, you know, Lindsey Graham's. | ||
| You are the person who should be saying that you can't do this. | ||
| Don't just kind of, meh, at us. | ||
| I can't do anything. | ||
| But, I mean, the problem I have for these people is that this is their crowning achievement. | ||
| And they don't even get to enjoy it. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| If I'm like Mitch McConnell or Lindsey Graham, I am crowing. | ||
| I lied to all of you, you dumb fucks. | ||
| Surprise, we own everything now. | ||
| How is that not at least something you enjoy? | ||
| I am now a duke. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Like, just enjoy it! | ||
| It would make me feel better to know that they're like, yeah, of course, this was our plan. | ||
| We did this. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| There's nothing you can do about it. | ||
| All of you are losers. | ||
| Like, that would be great! | ||
| I think that they're pretty concerned that that would cause a violent response. | ||
| From whom? | ||
| They're the ones who have the military pointed towards the cartels or whatever, I guess. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So anyway, this is the rationalization and the justification that Alex is making for the firing of these inspectors general. | ||
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Sure, sure, sure. | |
| And he has one other rationale, too. | ||
| So here's a report I put out last night. | ||
| This is Trump's most devastating move against the globalist deep state, and it's removing them. | ||
| Sorry, Democrats, there's precedent. | ||
| Obama fired inspector general in 2009. | ||
| So this is what Alex seems to think is the slam dunk for defending Trump, that Obama fired an inspector general in 2009. | ||
| When you hear an example like this, your mind should ask for details. | ||
| What about these situations might be similar and what might be different? | ||
| By figuring out those elements, you can parse out whether or not Alex's argument holds any water. | ||
| The thing that Alex is trying to justify is that within his first week in office, Trump has fired like 17 inspector generals, including those in the EPA, Health and Human Services, the Veterans Affairs, State Department, and the Department of Defense. | ||
| No concrete reason was given for the firings, and eight of these people have filed a lawsuit against the government because their firings were clearly illegal. | ||
| According to the Inspector General Act of 1978 and updates in the Securing Inspector General's Act of 2022, there are steps that you have to take in order to remove an IG, because if there weren't, then the president or government official would have a really easy time covering up corruption. | ||
| You'd just get rid of people who were looking into you. | ||
| That's why Nixon was trying to fire everybody until somebody would fire people. | ||
| The law says that the president has to tell Congress 30 days prior to the date of an intended termination of an inspector general, and they need to provide a thorough explanation with, quote, detailed and case specific reasons for the firing. | ||
| Unsurprisingly, Trump decided. | ||
| What? | ||
| In 2009, President Obama specifically decided to remove one inspector general that he'd lost confidence in. | ||
| This was the IG for the Corporation for National and Community Service, Gerald Walpin. | ||
| He was put on notice 30 days in advance, as was Congress. | ||
| Congress received letters from the board of directors of the CNCS, who were supportive of Obama's decision, and said, quote, Even though this followed the rules of how a president can excuse an IG, Wolpin still sued the government, and it was fully litigated, and he lost. | ||
| Looking at the basic situations here, you can easily see that these are not comparable. | ||
| But Alex needs to make them seem the same because he'll do whatever he has to do to run defense for Trump's actions. | ||
| There's an extra layer of manipulation that's going on here, which goes like this. | ||
| Alex would call Obama removing this inspector general an act of a tyrant. | ||
| He definitely would. | ||
| But he's using it as an argument for why Trump removing IGs isn't the act of a tyrant. | ||
| Right. | ||
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At least that's what the argument is supposed to look like. | |
| In reality, the argument Alex is making is that removing inspector generals is the act of a tyrant, but that Obama did it, so Trump should be able to, too. | ||
| Our tyrant gets to do it if your tyrant gets to do it. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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It's meant to look like an argument appealing to the Constitution or principle, but that's really just a mask on, I have made this look like tyranny so I can do it. | |
| No, it's an interesting... | ||
| I think it's an interesting side effect of... | ||
| The painting Obama is a tyrant that I don't think they knew was going to happen insofar as it made it so, oh, well, now our tyrant can do whatever he wants because it's not Obama. | ||
| I think that maybe that is more conscious than you imagined. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| I mean, there's a reason that the people in the John Birch Society were running around talking about Eisenhower being a commie. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Right, but I don't, I mean, I don't know if they meant to, to like... | ||
| I don't know if they knew that people would catch on quite so quickly with being like, yeah, tyrants are cool as long as they're not Obama kind of thing. | ||
| You know? | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| I think that there is a trend within that extreme right wing. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That is, make your enemy the devil, and then you can do devil stuff. | ||
| And then you can be the devil, yeah. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| You can be just a little bit. | ||
| That's every politics. | ||
| That's politics. | ||
| That's politics. | ||
| I think it's a problem that it does exist universally, but more in that right-wing JBS lineage than others. | ||
| Yeah, but that's ironically exactly what we're talking about. | ||
| Is that by them being more of it, it allows it for other people. | ||
| Yeah, maybe. | ||
| So Alex talks a little bit about NGOs that are taking over the government. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And this, I thought, was wild. | ||
| Now let me get to the real key here. | ||
| Because it's not enough to fire the operatives in the government. | ||
| You've got to cut their money off, which he's doing. | ||
| But you also... | ||
| We have to expose these people. | ||
| So this next thing that ties into this, I'm an expert on. | ||
| And Anthony Sutton was the head U.S. archivist for more than 30 years at the U.S. Senate. | ||
| He ran the intel for Senator Frank Church's committee hearings that were the biggest exposure of the deep state in history. | ||
| It's about to get bigger with Kosh Patel. | ||
| But he wrote at least five books that I read off of those documents. | ||
| And I was able to talk to him quite a bit, but he was too old. | ||
| He said he was too old to come on, but he listened to the show. | ||
| The point was, is that he's where we learned all this. | ||
| And there was other knowledge as well, but around 1900, the big banks and the Robert Barron's and J.P. Morgan and John D. Rockefeller were public about it then. | ||
| They were in the news saying, Americans are too informed, they're too educated. | ||
| We've got to find out a way to take over society. | ||
| So they created tax-free foundations to get around the Sherman Antitrust Act. | ||
| Bill Gates just follows suit with his so-called non-profit that makes even more money and lets him buy off government's regulatory systems. | ||
| And they get hundreds of billions, conservatively, a year of tax money. | ||
| And then whether it's brainwashing kids or transgenderism or open borders or chipping in migrants, that's where the money comes from. | ||
| The government to the tax-free foundations, to the non-profits, to the NGOs. | ||
| And they buy off the universities and the churches and the 2.6 billion of the Catholic Church in four years to smuggle kids in. | ||
| That's come out. | ||
| Not hundreds of millions, 2.6 or 2.3. | ||
| I showed the article yesterday. | ||
| So a lot of the stuff that Alex says in that clip is just stupid and wrong. | ||
| But before I go any further, I want to indicate where there is the slightest tiny bit of agreement that I have with Alex. | ||
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| In the way that our economy and system are set up, the super-rich are able to use foundations and charities to mask and redirect massive amounts of their wealth. | ||
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Totally. | |
| The system is very exploitable, and we've seen how it functions in terms of aiding the already very rich in hoarding resources. | ||
| It's an untenable system, and it needs to be changed, ideally in a way that doesn't hurt legitimate philanthropy, but stops massive corporations and billionaires from exploiting loopholes. | ||
| And that is where our agreement ends. | ||
| The rest of this should... | ||
| It's just John Birch Society nonsense. | ||
| Anthony Sutton wasn't the congressional archivist. | ||
| He just wrote conspiracy books about Bolsheviks and skull and bones. | ||
| He's considered a bad historian, a shitty source, and a bad writer. | ||
| This is all a fun story, but it doesn't also make sense. | ||
| The globalists apparently set up this system because they needed to get around the Sherman Antitrust Act. | ||
| But why would they allow the Sherman Antitrust Act to be passed to begin with? | ||
| It's not like the globalist plot just started 50 years ago and they're adjusting to new realities. | ||
| Their boss is the fucking literal devil. | ||
| If the whole system that we live in now was created just to get around the Sherman Antitrust Act, it seems like it would be easier for the globalists if they just overturned that or didn't let it pass. | ||
| They have magic powers and kill people all the time, and it seems like they have free run of all the government's power for over 100 years, so it doesn't seem unreasonable to assume they could just undo this law. | ||
| And interestingly, pretty much the only people who want to overthrow the Sherman Antitrust Act are folks on Alex's right-wing libertarian side. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| They believe that the market would sort it all out. | ||
| And these are just limiting freedom by having... | ||
| You know, like, if you have a monopoly that actually works... | ||
| And gives people what they need. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The market will allow that. | ||
| But if you're a bad monopoly, the market will take care of that. | ||
| That's why everybody loves Comcast and AT&T. | ||
| They love them. | ||
| They love them. | ||
| Big business wants there to be no antitrust laws. | ||
| And Alex's ideological forefathers were shills for big business. | ||
| Whether he wants to accept it or not, his entire conspiracy framework, and by extension his religious beliefs, are based in kissing the boss's ass. | ||
| And that's all he's got. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| But I do like to point out those little moments where there is the agreement, which is, like, this is an exploitable system that the super rich can use. | ||
| And the reason that I like to point out those moments of agreement is because those are the places where Alex lies to you. | ||
| Those are the places, like, 15 years ago, you could have heard him say something like that and been like, this guy's saying some shit. | ||
| He's on to something. | ||
| But he doesn't care. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| He's not going to resolve this. | ||
| He doesn't have a solution to this problem. | ||
| He just wants to kick out immigrants. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it is just so clear. | ||
| People do want to hear the truth said. | ||
| People do want to hear you say, this is fucked up, and not immediately followed up with, but here's why the system says we can't do anything about it now, or we have to wait until the next four years. | ||
| It's unsatisfying. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| People want to hear you say, this can't be going on anymore. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And here's what we're going to do about it. | ||
| Tom Homan's going to throw people out of the country. | ||
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| It's a big difference. | ||
| There is a difference between appealing to incremental change and hopefully in the future we'll be able to work this system better. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a difference between that and scapegoating. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And Alex has proven that scapegoating is appealing. | ||
| Well, I mean, the problem is whenever the incremental change doesn't work, people are going to go right to scapegoats. | ||
| Love scapegoats whenever incremental change fucks up. | ||
| It is an unfortunate... | ||
| Reality. | ||
| So another unfortunate reality is that Elon Musk, he spoke at the AFD conference. | ||
| Great! | ||
| And people are psyoping him. | ||
| Well, this is the type of crap they do. | ||
| Overhead shot, please, and we'll show you the HD of it on screen. | ||
| Fears for security of Jews worldwide in wake of Elon Musk AFD speech. | ||
| Now, look at this. | ||
| Article. | ||
| What do you see there in the photo they've got? | ||
| Well, it's Elon Saturday on a Jumbotron speaking to AFD, which is the preeminent, growing, winning Nazi party, not even as conservative as Trump. | ||
| They're more Ron Polish, really. | ||
| I've looked at their policies and listened to their leaders. | ||
| They've been around for decades. | ||
| So, A. He's hiled him. | ||
| Elon's pro-Israel, not anti-Israel. | ||
| He's pro-Jew, not anti-Jew. | ||
| That's known. | ||
| And they have no evidence here. | ||
| They just say Jews are scared. | ||
| But look at the picture there. | ||
| You've got the written lies. | ||
| You've got the loaded question about people are scared. | ||
| And then there is a person waving a AFD sign. | ||
| And all they had to do was pause the video when it went over his nose to give him a Hitler mustache. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex is totally right in as much as there's a still frame on this story that was chosen because someone's flag is covering Elon's face in such a way that it creates a Hitler mustache. | ||
| That's pretty funny. | ||
| That's pretty funny. | ||
| There is no doubt about it. | ||
| It is an intentional choice. | ||
| That's pretty funny. | ||
| It's an unflattering and maybe a little winking choice for an image, but Alex has never had a problem with inopportune timing and photos with people he hates, so I don't know why he cares so much here. | ||
| More importantly, Alex is claiming that the headline is asserting this thing with no evidence. | ||
| The headline itself is, quote, fears for security of Jews worldwide in wake of Elon Musk AFD speech. | ||
| The article is in The Guardian, and it references the position of Holly Seufer, the chief executive of the Jewish Democratic Council of America. | ||
| In the article she says, quote, It's been a steady stream of signaling to right-wing extremists that they have an ally now in the White House. | ||
| Some of the other stuff in the article that it brings up are that Trump didn't release a statement for Holocaust Remembrance Day, but he did pardon the guy who stormed the Capitol on January 6th wearing a Camp Auschwitz shirt, which was timed tragically. | ||
| That pardon timed right around the 80th anniversary of the liberation. | ||
| Of Auschwitz. | ||
| So when Alex says that these claims are being made with no evidence or backing, it's because he just skimmed the headline and he got mad about this picture. | ||
| If he'd read the article, he would know that this is reporting on the views of a prominent Jewish American activist who's reporting her sense of how people are feeling about Musk's super obvious actions. | ||
| But the picture I understand, like... | ||
| You just see that and you're like, hey, come on. | ||
| I mean, there's never been a bad picture where somebody's accidentally gotten in the way. | ||
| It's like a Margaret Thatcher standing in front of something and she obscures a word and then it says fart. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No notes. | ||
| Margaret Thatcher in front of fart? | ||
| I'm gonna laugh. | ||
| Sometimes pictures happen. | ||
| It needs to happen. | ||
| You know? | ||
| It needs to happen. | ||
| We need to see it. | ||
| But no. | ||
| This is a subliminal message campaign. | ||
| That sounds true. | ||
| Meant to attack Elon Musk. | ||
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Damn it. | |
| It's not just The Guardian. | ||
| They're all doing it. | ||
| So globalist corporate media runs subliminal message campaign to associate Elon Musk with Kettler. | ||
| I think he's doing that. | ||
| And they ran the image all over the place. | ||
| And when I saw this morning, I went and looked. | ||
| I didn't see anybody. | ||
| Maybe they are now. | ||
| Pointing out how ridiculous this is. | ||
| Now, let me give you another example. | ||
| So, see, that's what I do, and I've been doing this for 40 years, but really I've been dialed up for 31 in April on air. | ||
| That'll be the anniversary. | ||
| That when I look at things, I'm looking for what they're hiding, and I see it. | ||
| And it's not like I'm a schizo, you know, that sees the Virgin Mary in a piece of burnt toast, or I see giraffes in clouds. | ||
| No, I mean, I... | ||
| I see what they're pushing, what the image is, and you catch it instantly. | ||
| And I saw this an hour before the show, and I thought, certainly someone's picked up on this. | ||
| And no one was pointing out, look at this photo. | ||
| Look what they're doing. | ||
| Look at the headline. | ||
| Look, it all is one message. | ||
| He's Hitler. | ||
| So this is not subliminal. | ||
| It's very overt, and honestly, kind of the best picture you could run with a story like this. | ||
| When Trump got shot, obviously the picture of him with blood on his face in front of the flag was going to be the image that went with that story. | ||
| And even though it had a strong potential to create a deceptive hero narrative about Trump... | ||
| The picture was too good. | ||
| There's no way you're going to fault some outlet for running that picture. | ||
| Similarly, in this case, noted bigot and eugenics fan Elon Musk was giving a speech at the AFD rally telling the audience to stop worrying about the guilt of the past, and at an inopportune moment, the shadow of a flag covered his face in a way that really looked like a Hitler mustache. | ||
| We have the media that we have, and we have their traffic incentives that they exist within, so you're never not going to use that image if you have it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just, come on, man. | ||
| Yeah, no, I agree with you in every way, and yet somehow hearing the words out loud, we have the media we have, is such a bummer. | ||
| It's such a bummer. | ||
| We do have the media we have, don't we? | ||
| I would suggest almost any media that you would have would run that picture. | ||
| I'd do it. | ||
| I'm doing it. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| No judgment from me. | ||
| I'm just lamenting the state of ape kind. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Alex, he gets a little introspective. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And he starts complaining about his own plight. | ||
| Shit's tough. | ||
| I mean, for everybody out there, and yeah. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Some days you're like, isn't it fucking cool that we're raffling off a truck? | ||
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| And then other days you're like, we're raffling off a truck. | ||
| That's pretty sad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's pretty sad. | ||
| And it's one of the kind of downer days around Infowars, I think. | ||
| They've already been caught with the fake bids, caught with the fake auction. | ||
| Caught kicking us out of the building or trying to twice, charting off the internet, saying we were shut down, saying Bloomberg, through the onion, owned it, his everytown group. | ||
| And they're really embarrassed here. | ||
| Well, they're going to be really embarrassed soon. | ||
| We got some real nice stuff in Discovery. | ||
| And that makes what you've heard about sound like... | ||
| What you haven't heard about. | ||
| And they just think, well, we can do this to Alex Jones. | ||
| We can do all these illegal things, like we did Trump. | ||
| We can have a conspiracy against his rights. | ||
| It's open season because we're the good people and he's the bad guy because CNN said so. | ||
| He peed on that grave. | ||
| Never been to Connecticut. | ||
| Nobody ever peed on it. | ||
| Made up. | ||
| But people back then still believe that son of a bitch is pissing on graves and going to people's houses. | ||
| And Elon Musk has got a Hitler mustache too. | ||
| See all those damn white people? | ||
| New Yorker magazine? | ||
| So, it's a new game, folks, because people are on to them, and now the public is into researching and finding their lives, and it's exciting to discover it and break with all the mind control. | ||
| But there's a problem. | ||
| You've got to sell a lot of CMOS, which is excellent, and a lot of Timber, which is amazing, and a lot of T-shirts to fight. | ||
| The Democrat Party deep state that's still coming after me. | ||
| They even say, well, Trump's in, but... | ||
| Jones, if we shut him down, will be a consolation prize. | ||
| I don't think anyone says that. | ||
| I think that should go into the national election. | ||
| You've got to sell a lot of CMOS for that. | ||
| To fight the devil? | ||
| That should go down in history. | ||
| You've got to sell a lot of CMOS to fight the devil. | ||
| So much CMOS. | ||
| How much in CMOS do you've got to sell to win this fight? | ||
| That's the question. | ||
| How much wood would a woodchuck chuck? | ||
| Oh, you'll never know. | ||
| That's how much CMOS you've got to sell to fight the devil. | ||
| And like, I mean, earlier Alex was saying, like, most of the... | ||
| It takes a lot of CMOS to keep me scrolling through Twitter to tell you things to be mad about. | ||
| It takes a lot of CMOS for me to circulate things that you are all rumoring about to each other. | ||
| And then I piggyback on the fact that you guys go... | ||
| It's like what I said, and I get a little bit more money. | ||
| I'm a parasite. | ||
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| You should just start selling, like, dirt pills or something. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What's next? | ||
| It's a capsule filled with dirt. | ||
| God made dirt. | ||
| Dirt don't hurt. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And then there's the fecal matter transplants. | ||
| You need bacteria in your gut. | ||
| So we've got poop in a pill. | ||
| We've got poop pills. | ||
| I wouldn't put it past him. | ||
| I wouldn't put it past him. | ||
| So Alex has Mike Adams on. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Because he's an expert. | ||
| And what is he an expert in today? | ||
| See, that's the issue. | ||
| That is the issue. | ||
| He's the health ranger. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So we should stick to health. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| AI. | ||
| So he's an AI expert. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Always has been. | ||
| That sounds... | ||
| The most untrue. | ||
| Also expert in running smear websites against high school students who were the victims of school shootings. | ||
| That one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That sounds like there's a lot of experience there. | ||
| Hogwatch, I believe, was Mike Adams' website harassing David Hogg. | ||
| AI. | ||
| Cool stuff. | ||
| Not so much. | ||
| No, he's big into it. | ||
| And he thinks that the problem with AI is it's fucking woke. | ||
| That's why China's AI system, DeepSeek, that they released. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's so much better. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait. | ||
| So he's pro... | ||
| Where is everybody standing? | ||
| It's not woke. | ||
| Fucking pick a spot and stay there, for God's sake. | ||
| He still hates China, but he thinks it's a great gift that they've given the world. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| Because it's not woke. | ||
| Right. | ||
| People talk about DeepSeek from China being censored. | ||
| And I say, you're wrong. | ||
| Yeah, DeepSeek may censor conversations about Tiananmen Square, but the U.S. AI models censor any criticism of big pharma. | ||
| They censor the truth about COVID origins. | ||
| They censor the truth about the stolen 2020 election. | ||
| They censor the truth about 9 /11. | ||
| You name it, the U.S. models censor all of these subjects. | ||
| The U.S. has far more censorship than Chinese models. | ||
| And, Alex, explain, as you're an engineer, but I've read the studies, why does manipulating it to make it deceptive On not just wokeism, but on everything. | ||
| How does that make AI stupid? | ||
| How does it hold it back? | ||
| Because you can't have a reasoning model if the model is programmed to be irrational and to say that men can have babies, okay? | ||
| I mean, they are obviously contradictory concepts. | ||
| Well, I asked DeepSeek. | ||
| I have DeepSeek R1 32 billion parameter model running on my desktop, okay? | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| It's the greatest invention in human history, okay? | ||
| And I asked it, can men get pregnant and have babies? | ||
| And it says, no, men don't have the reproductive hardware to have a baby. | ||
| They don't have the hormonal hardware. | ||
| I mean, obviously, men can't have babies. | ||
| But if you ask Google, can men have babies? | ||
| Oh, of course men can have babies. | ||
| Or if you ask, you know, Anthropic or Microsoft or Meta, they're all over. | ||
| Men can have babies. | ||
| Well, you can't. | ||
| Have a reasoning model that is good at reasoning if you teach it to be cognitively retarded, which is what wokeism is. | ||
| So wokeism is cognitive retardation. | ||
| That is the opposite of innovation. | ||
| And that's why we're in this situation behind China, because China rejected wokeism while America's leftists pushed wokeism. | ||
| Trump is trying to rescue us from that, and many conservatives are trying to rescue us. | ||
| But we are behind the curve right now. | ||
| We are losing in this race badly. | ||
| Okay, so I know you are an AI expert, for people that don't know Mike. | ||
| We're building a model that I'll bring to you in about a month that'll blow your mind. | ||
| I'll demonstrate it in your studio. | ||
| Well, please. | ||
| I've known Mike about 17 years. | ||
| Really smart guy. | ||
| Real smart guy. | ||
| He cured Ebola. | ||
| Here's what I want. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right? | ||
| What I want from these people, and what I want... | ||
| I'm not going to get it. | ||
| What I want the people who agree with them to want is a list. | ||
| A list of the things that will happen once you get rid of wokeism. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Woke mind virus is dead. | ||
| They've got it. | ||
| Alex already declared it dead. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Musk declared it dead. | ||
| What I want people who hate DEI, what I want is for my family, just write down 10 things that will improve or just 10 things that will happen once wokeism is gone over the next four years and see if any of them happen. | ||
| If none of those things happen, then maybe it wasn't wokeism that you're unhappy with. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But nobody's going to make that list. | ||
| No, probably not. | ||
| Also, it's kind of a joke that people make that is like, oh yeah, the reason we can't do this is woke. | ||
| You know, woke got in the way. | ||
| It's not a joke anymore. | ||
| But it's not a joke for him. | ||
| That's what they say. | ||
| That's what they say. | ||
| Woke is in the... | ||
| Woke things. | ||
| But I thought... | ||
| He even rhymed three times with situation? | ||
| Whatever it was, he said. | ||
| The other thing, too, is like, I thought that Alex... | ||
| Infected the AI models. | ||
| And, like, he was the antidote in the Matrix. | ||
| So, like, I thought this should be probably covered. | ||
| I guess it's not. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| These people are fucking stupid. | ||
| I feel like when I listen to Mike Adams, I feel like I'm babysitting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, it really feels like a child. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The reasoning and the level of complaints, the level of expertise in every fucking field, even though his career is littered with the corpses of humiliation, it's just... | ||
| I can't take him seriously. | ||
| Here's what I find so fascinating about AI and the way these people interact with it, is that there's only... | ||
| Two ways that I've seen anybody interact with it through the books that I've read about it and then through people who talk about it and do their stuff and keep people up to date is that there's incredibly smart people who can code the fuck out of shit who are playing with their fun toy. | ||
| And then there are incredibly stupid people who think that it's more than a toy. | ||
| And both of them are incredibly stupid to me. | ||
| And Alex is going to probably interview Mike's AI. | ||
| Yeah, because nobody's just going like, oh, this is a dumb toy. | ||
| We fucked up. | ||
| We made a toy. | ||
| We overcommitted on this. | ||
| We overcommitted on a toy. | ||
| We blew it. | ||
| You know? | ||
| That might be the end result. | ||
| Or maybe we will become a colony of China. | ||
| Sounds right. | ||
| Now, I know that Mike has said that it's over for humanity. | ||
| There's only going to be lone survivors. | ||
| That was a number of years back. | ||
| He also said that during COVID, China was going to launch a ground invasion of the United States. | ||
| No, that happened. | ||
| RIP Wisconsin. | ||
| And now, because we're too woke, their AI is going to take over, and we're going to be a colony! | ||
| Sounds true. | ||
| Look, let me put it this way, Alex. | ||
| If we don't become competitive in the AI race, we will be a colony of China within five years. | ||
| That's... | ||
| How crazy the situation is right now. | ||
| So what does Trump need to do and what do we need to do? | ||
| Trump needs to decentralize an open-source AI right now. | ||
| Trump needs to, on an emergency basis, reform the entire university system, fire every woke teacher, every woke professor, every woke administrator across the entire education system, and we've got to end all censorship across the board. | ||
| Including the censorship that's still on X. Are you Chairman Mao? | ||
| I mean, it is wild. | ||
| Yeah, it's wild. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Did we just get Cultural Revolution? | ||
| I think we did. | ||
| Did we just get Cultural Revolution? | ||
| But it's like Mao with a cowboy hat. | ||
| Right, a Mao boy hat. | ||
| And a pacifier because he's a fucking baby. | ||
| Because he's a fucking baby, yes. | ||
| Reasons like an infant. | ||
| Unreal. | ||
| So if we get rid of all the woke... | ||
| Everywhere. | ||
| I mean, what's going on in theoretical math that woke us fucking up? | ||
| Is the professor not white? | ||
| God damn it, you win. | ||
| I obviously hadn't considered just being racist about it. | ||
| But no, it makes perfect sense. | ||
| Listen, I need to take context clues. | ||
| When I'm hearing somebody yell at me about how everyone woke must be purged from society. | ||
| No, you're right. | ||
| I have to take context clues from other things that they're saying about woke stuff. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| And so here's Mike talking about how lesbian firefighters are woke. | ||
| Sure, that sounds right. | ||
| America's behind because we have been sabotaged. | ||
| We've been sabotaged by the Democrats. | ||
| We've been sabotaged by wokeness, the dumbing down of our school system, the dumbing down of our corporations. | ||
| We now have a culture in America, which of course Trump is beginning to reverse, thank But we have a culture, especially in Silicon Valley and in the tech areas, where the most woke person is given the advancement to be in charge of projects instead of the most qualified person. | ||
| Our universities have been turned into woke indoctrination centers instead of education centers. | ||
| Now, there are exceptions to this. | ||
| There are still some good universities, but, you know, across the board, they're just woke factories. | ||
| They're indoctrination centers. | ||
| I mean, look at what happened in L.A. recently with the fires. | ||
| Did we have competent fire chiefs? | ||
| No. | ||
| We had lesbian fire chiefs that were really happy to be, you know, lesbians, but can you put out fires? | ||
| Not really. | ||
| Can you put water in the fire hydrants? | ||
| Turns out that's not the case. | ||
| That's not part of being lesbian for whatever reason. | ||
| I don't know why. | ||
| But I don't care if somebody's a lesbian or gay or trans. | ||
| That feels not true. | ||
| That feels not true. | ||
| Everything you just said betrays that premise. | ||
| Because if you stop and you really think about what it is you're actually saying, you are either saying you hate lesbians or people who fuck women can't fight fires. | ||
| What, they're too busy fucking women. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| When they're women. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| See, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| It's either you hate lesbians or people who fuck women can't fight fires. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| You see, you understand? | ||
| She's too busy being a lesbian. | ||
| What is busy being a lesbian? | ||
| You know. | ||
| No, I don't! | ||
| Come on. | ||
| What? | ||
| Don't play dumb with me. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| Me, the Hell Ranger? | ||
| You're right. | ||
| She's too busy being a lesbian. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| Doing all her lesbian things. | ||
| She can't open up a fire hydrant. | ||
| Here's my problem. | ||
| I think I used to know what the stereotypes that these people used. | ||
| You know, like, oh, this person's a lesbian. | ||
| Back in the day, that had a, like, stereotypical meaning so that people would think of, like, a lumberjack or something, you know? | ||
| That was the 90s butch phase era. | ||
| That kind of thing. | ||
| I don't... | ||
| I have no context for what this is even stereotyping. | ||
| Incapable of fighting fires because you're too busy being a lesbian. | ||
| See, that doesn't... | ||
| That's not a stereotype. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| But it's the... | ||
| It's the mentality that someone like Mike brings into this conversation, which is if the person who is in a position of authority is, anything other than a straight white man, then the reason that something went wrong is because it wasn't a straight white man. | ||
| And conveniently, he's able to play this game, but he doesn't hate LGBTQ people. | ||
| If it's a straight white man, here's why it's not his fault. | ||
| If it's not a straight white man, here's why not being a straight white man is the problem. | ||
| Precisely. | ||
| And that's what woke is all about. | ||
| I think you're right. | ||
| I mean, if you really want to boil it down, white people, not at fault. | ||
| Non-white people, non-straight people, fucking just existing is the problem. | ||
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Right. | |
| And so we need to solve that. | ||
| I feel like... | ||
| Or else China's gonna take over. | ||
| That doesn't sound true either. | ||
| What we have to do now, on an emergency basis, and if we don't do this, we are toast as a nation. | ||
| I mean this. | ||
| This is the end of... | ||
| There will only be lone survivors. | ||
| ...become competitive and become dominant in the realm of AI. | ||
| What we have to do on an emergency basis right now is we have to denounce wokeism and all of the irrational lunacy that it involves. | ||
| And the climate lunacy, this idea that carbon dioxide is a pollutant, that it's bad for plants somehow, when it's critical for photosynthesis, for God's sake, right? | ||
| And this idea that men can have babies, this idea that there are an unlimited number of genders, this idea infected our culture, it infected our government offices, it infected our corporate America, our universities, pop culture, Hollywood, all of it. | ||
| It's got to go. | ||
| And it's got to go on an emergency basis. | ||
| I mean, this is a national security issue at this point. | ||
| So it's a national security issue that everyone cater all information to align with Mike Adams' stupid ideas. | ||
| Now, here's essentially what is going on. | ||
| He engages with the world on the complexity of, let's say, a junior high level, which is, oh, carbon dioxide plants need that to grow. | ||
| He's reading a book. | ||
| That's a little bit out of his range, like maybe a high school or college book about how excess CO2 has other effects. | ||
| And yes, no one is disputing that it's necessary for photosynthesis. | ||
| Yes, that is true. | ||
| But you're not emotionally or intellectually mature enough to engage with the adult discussion. | ||
| So instead of... | ||
| Learning more, engaging with that actual discussion. | ||
| What Mike wants to do is cause an emergency that makes all reading second grade level. | ||
| Make it all elementary level, all junior high level. | ||
| This is all I can handle. | ||
| All the other stuff is woke shit. | ||
| I can't deal with that complexity. | ||
| And you guys are the ones who are dumb. | ||
| It is truly, yeah. | ||
| Like, it is so much... | ||
| Whenever I go outside... | ||
| Every aspect of reality tells me that I'm stupid. | ||
| And I don't want to believe that. | ||
| So, I will remove every aspect of reality that tells me I'm stupid. | ||
| And that will leave me and Alex sitting in a fucking bar somewhere by ourselves. | ||
| Yeah, and the issue is that your point isn't wrong. | ||
| A lot of his points are wrong. | ||
| But just the one I'm using as a case point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Carbon dioxide is required for photosynthesis is not wrong. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So I'm not saying you're wrong about that. | ||
| You just need to know more. | ||
| Vitamin C keeps you from getting scurvy. | ||
| That's why we don't replace your entire digestive system with oranges. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's more to this story than your dumb sunlight makes plants eat thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The issue is a lot of people who are maybe passive observers or just in the public, maybe they get swayed by an argument like carbon dioxide is required to make plants grow. | ||
| Because it is true. | ||
| Maybe you can be like, it doesn't make sense to me. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Mike is not that. | ||
| He knows. | ||
| He's full of shit. | ||
| I think he knows that in some places he's full of shit, and in other places I really do think he thinks he's the one who's smart. | ||
| I know he knows that wokeism is not behind all of the shit that he's saying wokeism is behind, but I also think he thinks he's a genius. | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't think it even matters. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't think any of that shit matters to him. | ||
| He is such a craven opportunist fuck that like... | ||
| I think he is emotionally, and the way he interacts is very childish. | ||
| He's not very smart, but he also presents this not-smartness in a way that really works for his ends. | ||
| If he had any kind of, like... | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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I agree. | |
| I wonder if this doesn't also have something to do with, like, as a culture, It is not okay, or at least we don't make you feel like it's okay to say something like, I don't understand this, and I'm going to be honest with you, I probably never will. | ||
| I don't have the interest in learning about it, I don't care personally, and it's not affecting me. | ||
| So instead, you have to be like, oh, I totally understand that, and then there you go. | ||
| Yep, that's how you end up with a bunch of health rangers. | ||
| Because it doesn't make you feel good to be like, listen. | ||
| I don't know what you're talking about, and I honestly am never going to learn. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I get it. | ||
| Because learning more about it will threaten the stability of the political beliefs that I have made the center of my being. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Enjoy. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| So you don't understand. | ||
| You just are going to believe what you want to believe regardless, so why are we bothering with you telling me that carbon dioxide is important for fucking photosynthesis? | ||
| Because we have to eradicate woke. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| So we come to the end of this, and there's a lot going on in the world. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And I don't know if we're covering a lot of it. | ||
| Alex has, you know, he talked about the firing of the inspectors general. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Didn't do a great job of it. | ||
| I think we're missing a lot of stuff that's happening. | ||
| You know, I think, here's what I think is interesting, right? | ||
| So I'm living where I'm living, and I'm seeing, like, If we are in a space where the president could just do some illegal shit and then everybody's like, I guess you can do some illegal shit then. | ||
| Then we gotta keep your ears out for when somebody's like, you can't do that anymore and here's how we're going to stop you. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Otherwise it's not really news when he does illegal shit. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What I was thinking more is that like... | ||
| We're not getting a lot of, like, you know, what's happening. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But I bet that Alex, his Twitter has a lot more on it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I start to think that maybe he's more a guy who has a Twitter account than he is a guy who does a show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Current events and, like, on these days, I bet he's tweeting like crazy about all the stuff that Trump's doing. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| And engaging and having back and forth with people. | ||
| Because that's how you build engagement. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I bet he's engagement farming a great deal, but it's not, like, coming out in any way on the show. | ||
| He's not a show host anymore. | ||
| He's a guy who has a social media account, and the show is kind of an offshoot of that. | ||
| Yeah, he's Tosh 2.0. | ||
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Ugh. | |
| Three. | ||
| I mean, what he's doing is aggregating bullshit that people have sent him on Twitter, and then giving it to us in a slightly more entertaining format, I guess. | ||
| But it would be like if Tosh 2.0 was primarily a Twitter account. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or primarily an online social media account, and then the show was just talking about things that he saw. | ||
| I don't know how to make it work, but I think that, I think you're right. | ||
| I feel like he has abandoned ship in a lot of ways. | ||
| I don't think it's a priority for him. | ||
| And I think that there's a certain level that he's making a bad situation for himself. | ||
| Because if something happens and he is kicked off Twitter, he's fucked. | ||
| He has put all those eggs in there. | ||
| And... | ||
| I don't think that his brand is going to sustain this support that he has for Elon Musk. | ||
| I think that the prevailing and correct conspiracy position is to make him the deep state. | ||
| This is why Trump can't get any of the stuff you want done is because of Elon Musk. | ||
| It's almost perfect. | ||
| It is right there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so that will be the angle that... | ||
| The sort of smarter conspiracy right-wing types, like David Icke, are going to go that path. | ||
| And Alex is cutting that angle off for himself. | ||
| I mean, yeah, and it's the smart one if you're a Trump fan, because Trump gets to continue being your god king. | ||
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Yep. | |
| It's smart for Trump because he gets to continue stealing from you without you caring. | ||
| And it's smart for Elon because he gets to be the super-powered villain that he obviously wants to be. | ||
| He's doing Hitler salutes. | ||
| And it's the smart thing for you as some right-wing dipshit commentator type because you get to enjoy all of the damage and shit you want to happen and still get to pretend like, I'm actually against this. | ||
| You know, like... | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You can pretend to have, like, that opposition. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And Alex is just completely blocking that door for himself. | ||
| So I hope it hurts him in the long run. | ||
| Yeah, you know, I mean, I feel like he's a... | ||
| I feel a little bit like he's a loyalist in Belfast. | ||
| I'm just saying, it's the wrong time to be that. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| So, I guess we'll be back with another episode, but until then, we have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yep, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark, I am the Mysterious Professor. | ||
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Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo! | |
| And now, here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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