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Aug. 12, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
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#953: August 8, 2024
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#953: August 8, 2024 dissects Alex Jones’ fixation on Trump amid declining support, mocking weak "stolen valor" claims against Tim Walz’s 24-year National Guard record. The episode critiques Tommy Robinson’s selective outrage over UK sentencing laws while ignoring his own incitement history and Hartlepool’s violent anti-police protests tied to racial slurs. Laura Logan’s unproven cartel conspiracy theories—70,000 "terrorist school" graduates in the U.S.—and her QAnon ties highlight Jones’ reliance on debunked narratives. Kirk Elliott’s gold pitch, using stochastic RSI without context, exposes manipulative financial rhetoric. Ultimately, the episode reveals how Jones’ platform thrives on misinformation and performative outrage rather than substance or accountability. [Automatically generated summary]

Participants
Main
a
alex jones
infowars 12:21
d
dan friesen
34:36
j
jordan holmes
22:53
Appearances
k
kirk elliott
infowars 00:51
l
lara logan
03:17
t
tommy robinson
gbr 01:12
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Speaker Time Text
Animations Of Knowledge Fight 00:02:51
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Shang me are the bad guys.
Knowledge fights.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
I need money.
Andy and Pansy.
Andy and Candy.
Andy and Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the earth.
Thanks for all this.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a fish pin color.
We're here to say I love your room.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
unidentified
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
We're going to get the dudes.
Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Oh, indeed we are.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Deion.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Jordan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Dean.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Jordan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Quick question for you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
What's up?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
My bright spot today is actually, I'm a little bit delayed on this, so I'd like to apologize.
I'm being sort of behind the times and what have you.
But it came to my attention that someone had made some animations of some of the clips of our show.
So I wanted to give a shout out to that person.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Kudos to YouTube.
Very, very funny.
It's very sweet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
You know, and they really nailed the gray spot in my beard.
It's just...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
I mean, it is kind of...
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
It's remarkable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
It is kind of strange, especially because I remember almost the day we started talking about that gray spot in your beard like six years ago.
Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
It really captured it.
And the way that you kick your legs up whenever you're laughing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, 100%.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
It's fully in there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
The energy is correct.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
And then also someone made a Brendan and Coach McGurk.
Yeah.
So thank you so much to Kevin for that.
Yeah, that one's such a delight.
Yeah, it's interesting to see yourself in animation or to see these sort of jokes that you've made in a visual form.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
It's weird.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
It's weird, but it's nice, and I appreciate it.
So thank you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
I remember, it reminded me of the, there was a Comedy Central show that would animate some stand-up bits.
And I still remember.
No, no, no, no.
One that would go specifically just to, like, do animated bits.
Because I remember the Ducks Eat for Free at Subway Bit by Mitch Hedberg was turned into a really just perfect animation of what you would think of Mitch Hedberg buying bread for a duck.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Comic remix?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
It might have been.
It might have been something like that.
But yeah, there were all of those animated clips, and I remember thinking how much fun it was and how, like, what a fun, nice little silly thing.
And then to, I don't know.
Olympic Heroes 00:03:50
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
It was also definitely part of Dr. Katz.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Oh, no, for sure.
For sure.
There was definitely that on Katz, for sure.
No doubt.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
My bright spot, I'm going to double down on the Olympics.
It was great.
You know, and I was thinking because one, the women's national team won soccer, won fantastic game.
57th minute.
Male Swanson.
And then Alyssa Nair, the goalie.
Her saves were just out of this world.
Out of this world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Heroes, those goalies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
I mean, not in this Olympics, and it's a lot like the Mighty Ducks.
It's a lot like Goldberg got a lot of fighters.
Goldberg nailed it.
But then, I don't know, much like in the Olympics, a woman goalie was much better.
No, that was great.
And then Steph Curry and the men's national basketball team, they won gold on the same day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Nice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Steph Curry through four straight threes in from increasingly more ridiculous positions.
That's 12.
Until the last one, he was double-teamed.
I don't know if you.
There's this amazing picture, right?
Steph Curry double-teamed by two very large men, right?
Open, wide open.
Kevin Durant, all-time leading Olympic scorer, greatest shooter, greatest scorer, period.
All-time.
Wide open.
LeBron James, greatest basketball player ever to live.
Two guys, wide the fuck open.
Who shoots the ball?
Steph Curry.
Underneath two very large men, almost like from behind.
And everybody's like, fuck yeah, and he's going to make it.
And he did.
And the whole place went nuts.
It was awesome.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I have two important questions to ask you.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
The first, in basketball, do they say from downtown?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
They sure do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Okay, good.
I'm glad that hasn't gone out of style.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
There's downtown, there's behind the high-rent district.
No, that one has not been said for a long time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
See, that's one also, I guess maybe high-rent district is maybe like more like when someone goes to the top rope and wrestling.
He has no business being up there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
That would make way more sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Second question.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
When the women's soccer team, football team, wins the gold, does anyone slide on their knees?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Do you mean like, well, it was a different slide.
No, not like Brandy Chastain, of course.
The most famous of all slides.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
That, to me, is a.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
But usually that's like after a goal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
That's an important image of winning a soccer game.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I think across the board.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
The slide and the button.
But that's usually after you score a goal, not after you win the game.
You know, that's the goal scoring celebration where you kick it, everybody, you run to the corner, do the whole thing, and everybody jumps on top of you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Zenidine Zidane head-butts someone and then everybody's like, yeah, yeah, that's the way you do it.
Terry Henry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, this was a great Olympics, and it was like, it was so very obvious after I said it.
I was like, man, this is the best Olympics in a long time.
Then I thought for two seconds, I was like, yeah, because there wasn't a fucking pandemic, idiot.
Of course it was a good Olympics.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
It's been a little while since we've been in a full-on Olympic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I feel like I missed out a little bit, but I could have joined in.
I could have watched some.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
It really was.
It really was great.
It just truly is.
It was such a great example of the like, none of these people are really sure about where they come from, but when they come together and they're just competing with each other, like they're friends, they've got it.
Disaster Looms 00:05:14
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Where you're from is an excuse to meet other people who are good at stuff and compete.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
It's awesome.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
And that is kind of a wonderful thing about the world being as connected as it is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
You know?
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I'm glad you got to enjoy that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
It was awesome.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
So, Jordan, today we have something you will not enjoy as much.
Why would you?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Shit sucks.
We got another dumb episode of Alex's.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Fair enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I keep saying episodes are dumb.
And I just feel like we're in a bad rut.
I feel like we're in a bad place for Alex.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Because we're in this place where, in the real world, there's gaining enthusiasm for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.
The Democratic side is rejuvenated and people kind of feel like, all right, we'll vote for this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
And on the Trump side, it's just shitty disaster.
No one likes JD Vance.
Everyone's making excuses for all this garbage.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Someone tried to shoot Trump and no one cares.
It's just weird.
And then the other day, Rogan came out and was kind of like, you know, I really like RFK Jr.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
And it just feels like everyone's, there's a time limit here to leave Trump.
And I feel like Alex should be on the clock.
He should realize that it's not the way to go.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
It is always fun.
It is always fun to find out who believes in what they're saying and who is a loser.
Because I always appreciate it whenever people have the courage to be like, I'm getting off the train.
And then 12 hours later, be like, never mind.
I'll shut the fuck up.
I changed my mind.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
In the case of Joe, I would say that he didn't say, I'm getting off the train.
Sure, sure, sure.
You know, that, you know, he didn't double back as hard as like 180 degrees.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Sure, sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
But these people who are these right-wing media scam folks, they do need to recognize that the expiration date is kind of come.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
But they can't because the image is they are telling people how they feel, right?
But the reality is they're doing what they're told by an audience of people who are hungry to be lied to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
But I think that that audience may be coming to a point where they want to be told something else.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Sure, but then they'll find different people.
They don't need you.
They don't want Alex to be a different person.
If they want a different person, they'll get a different fucking person.
There's plenty of them.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I just feel like it's time for Alex to start pretending that he never stopped Rand Pauling and Ron Pauling.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
You know, it's time.
It's time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
No, it would be a smart move for him for his everything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
For everything.
But I just don't think these people can do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
We've had two straight election cycles where he's been all in for Trump.
And it's played out very differently both times.
And this third time, I just, I think it's a mistake.
I think if he wants to stay relevant, I'm not saying go with RFK because that's a disaster too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
But I do.
I do like a good three strikes you're out in a very literal way.
unidentified
And this is about as literal as it gets.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
They've tried for the third straight time.
Here we go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
So anyway, I just feel like we're in that place.
We're in that place where there needs Alex needs to do something else.
And I think it would be really interesting if he could find it within himself to but you can't you can't abstain from the election.
You can't turn now because it's the devil.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
It is the devil.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I mean, like, you'd have to.
He's committed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
In order to change, you'd have to admit you are wrong.
Otherwise, you can't change.
Like, that's the fundament of where we are all across the board, across all political ideologies or whatever it is.
In order to change your mind, you'd have to first go, the thing that I thought before is not correct.
And that is not a thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Or you have to pretend so hard.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, you have to work real hard.
Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I think that's possible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
And it'd be very polite if everybody just ignored it and we're like, yes, of course you didn't think that before.
We're fine with that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
And I mean, you see indications of like, you know, folks like Nick Fuentes who are being like, well, I've had enough.
I'm fucked up.
Sure.
And these are not super shocking turns of events.
They're to be expected.
And that's the vanguard of where this ideology is going to go.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, I mean, the obvious thing to do would be for those people, like Alex and Joe and all of them, to get together and be like, they got rid of their old white guy.
Now we demand it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I think the cult of personality being so based around Trump had its upside.
And now we're seeing what could be its downside.
There really isn't anyone to replace to fill in that spot.
There's no other democratic.
unidentified
He's going up to the top stairs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
That sucks.
Thank You Policy Wonk 00:02:51
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Got really no viable.
I mean, what are you going to do?
Barron in there?
tommy robinson ▲ ● ▼
Ah, come on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Let's see if Rubio's got it in him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Don't feel like the white nationalist base is going to galvanize around Rubio.
Romney.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Come on, man.
I've still got money out.
Give me Nikki Haley.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
That bet's still outstanding.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
No, it is no longer.
They took it off.
But if she gets, if she comes back, man, I feel like they have to.
I've got a lawsuit at least.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, you can at least do the hashtag Jordan was right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
If she comes back, I think I do deserve money for that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I think she ruined her chances at the RNC.
Yeah, I did too.
So, look, we have an episode to go over, and we're going to be talking about the 8th, August 8th.
That's Thursday's episode.
Alex had Laura Logan host on Friday.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Oh, my gosh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
So, this was his weekend send-off, sure.
And we'll get down to business on this, but before we do, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Oh, this is great idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
So, first, the Beaver family, parenthetically, our dog did JFK.
No, we will not explain further.
Thank you so much, Joanna Policy Wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Thank you very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Not say the dog killed JFK.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
And we have no explanation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
And we do know a lot about JFK that involves multiple meanings of the word did.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Thank you to Andrew Breitbart's unremarkable left testicle.
Thank you so much, Jerano Policy Wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Our first live show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
I swear, sometimes whenever I don't remember a reference to our own show, I feel insane.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Do you not remember that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
I did afterwards, but there was a brief moment where I was looking at it going, like, what have I done?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I get it, and I still think, what have we done?
Next, Dominic Mitchell.
Thank you so much, Uranio Policy Wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Thank you very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Thank you.
And hey, Bill, sorry about all the strokes and seizures.
Not sorry about giving some of our money to these guys.
Love your broken wife, Christina.
Thank you so much, Uranio Policy Wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
I'm a policy wonk.
Thank you very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Thank you.
And we're going to take the credit of the mix, Jordan.
So thank you so much to Knowledge Fight.
Completed it, mate.
Thank you so much.
You're an out-technocrat.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Go home for your mother telling you, brilliant.
Someone, sodomite, sent me a bucket of poop.
Daddy Shark.
Bomb, Jarjar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser, little, little titty baby.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Thank you very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
So we start off here on the 8th with Alex talking about Walls.
Stolen Valor Revelations 00:15:51
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
We're going to figure out this Walls line of attack one way or the other.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
All right.
Tim Walz is done.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Is he?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
He'll never get away with this.
They are now uncovering news article interviews and multiple TV interviews and speeches he gave where he claimed in the technical nomenclature he used that he is a combat veteran.
When instead he betrayed those under his command and did just a terrible thing.
Veterans understand all the complexities of this and that's why they're so outraged because he stole valor in a very technical specific way.
Tim Walz stolen valor.
Valor fiasco is quickly becoming a disqualifying spectacle.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
It's becoming pretty clear that this is the direction that we're going to go.
This is the attack that Alex is going to stick with.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Gotcha.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
So far on his show, Alex has shown a clip of Walls saying that people in the United States shouldn't be carrying weapons of war and the only place those should be carried were like when he carried them in war.
This was at a speech at what appears to be like a town hall meeting and Walls has already clarified that he misspoke in this setting and he didn't mean to cause any offense.
This is just a replaying of an attack that was used against him in his last governor's race back in 2022.
His opponent Scott Jensen employed all of the mudslinging tactics here against Walls' service and it just didn't work.
It's not really a super effective angle of attack because the facts are pretty compelling on Walls' side and it's really easy to explain things that are a little bit iffy like that aforementioned misspeaking.
He was enlisted with the National Guard for 24 years, where he could have retired at 20 if he wanted, but he stayed in despite enduring hearing loss from the artillery that he worked with.
So, you know, you can't really besmirch the tenure of his career and all that.
The other main attack about his service is that he retired just before his unit was set to deploy for Iraq.
But there are strong indications that the deployment wasn't the catalyst of his retirement.
Walls has said that he was planning on retiring in order to run for office, at least in part due to his opposition to the war in Iraq, which he couldn't really oppose publicly while he was enlisted.
This makes total sense.
And Alex should actually be in support of all that, which is why he needs to create this fake version of Walls' story to sell to the audience, because otherwise you'd be like, oh, wait, that's what I would encourage someone to do in that position.
Retire so they can be critical of the war that I believe is unjust.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
That's very interesting.
This is an interesting line of attack.
I find this fascinating, not least of which because are we not the bad guys now in Iraq?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
To Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
But we've been, you know?
I don't know.
Because to me, the idea of somebody being like, hey, I'm not going to go murder people for money.
That makes sense to me.
I'm more on that team.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
He was in the National Guard.
Right.
And when they were going, he did not deploy.
Well, he did deploy in the war in Afghanistan, but he was to Italy and to like guard bases and stuff.
kirk elliott ▲ ● ▼
Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
But I think that anytime you have somebody who's lying about what they did, it's distasteful.
Whether or not the thing that they're lying about was the perfect ethical thing to do, whether it's right or wrong to have been in the war.
Sure.
Even leaving that aside, lying about it is kind of like, well, you're lying about this in a way that's disrespectful to other people's deaths and shit.
So I understand that.
But Alex should be in favor of all of the concrete actions here.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
You were enlisted.
You can't criticize the war.
You want to criticize the war.
So you retire in order to try and affect change.
That's the narrative that Alex should be on board with.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I don't think this is going to stick very well, basically.
kirk elliott ▲ ● ▼
Probably not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I don't feel like the angle of attack is good here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, I mean, it is funny.
It is funny because it's very obvious that the problem here is that people who want to vote for the Democrats like Tim Walz, right?
And this is an unusual circumstance for people who want to vote for Democrats because that's never happened before.
It'll be interesting to see what happens.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
And I also think that there's some people who would want to vote slightly to the right, but fucking hate Trump.
kirk elliott ▲ ● ▼
Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Who probably would like to vote for him too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
No, we're in a great Obama position where it's like, listen, the worst possible thing has happened in the past year.
So why not try a new thing?
Who fucking cares at this point?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Well, here's what you don't understand.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Geithner's right around the corner.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Not Geithner.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Everybody, everybody who's excited.
Everybody who's excited.
I promise you, Geithner's right around the corner.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
It is not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
I guarantee you 1 million percent Geithner is right around the corner.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
It is not him.
It is somebody.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Geithner is going to fuck you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
No, it's a much better songwriter.
kirk elliott ▲ ● ▼
Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
We've analyzed how Harris is finally getting some pretty big crowds, 10, 20,000 people in Atlanta, Dearborn, Michigan, places like that, Atlanta, Georgia, Dearborn, Michigan.
We have it right here.
They're telling people that there's going to be some big music stars there, and they'll announce one or two big ones, but say that there'll be a surprise one.
And they have their surrogates, kind of the Democrat version of Cube.
Oh, the word is it's Taylor Swift.
And we've caught them doing that.
And notice she's just canceled her tour.
Now the new blue QAnon, blue Anon thing is Taylor Swift will be her new running mate when Walls drops out.
I mean, this is a train wreck.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Okay, this is just stupid, but whatever.
I'm sure there are some kind of lunatic accounts on social media pushing theories that Taylor Swift is going to swing in to be the vice president, but that kind of thing is probably something you should ignore if you're the tip of the spear.
Also, if that's what the blue side of QAnon is up to, the other one was about like demons and blood drinking and this is a little bit different.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
The conspiracy theory is Taylor Swift is going to be VP?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
That's what Alex is saying that the blue Anon conspiracy theory is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
That is low stakes.
That is low stakes.
For a billionaire to be like, I'm going to swoop in and be a VP, that's dumb.
Yeah.
That's dumb.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
It's a little TMZ-ish.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I think what Alex is complaining about is buzz.
The Harris campaign has access to relevant acts.
So for instance, in Wisconsin, they had Bony Ver, and in Atlanta, Megan The Stallion saying Trump would totally do the same thing if he could, but most relevant bands don't like him.
He doesn't have Kid Rock performing at the RNC because Kid Rock is a meaningfully cool musician in 2024.
It's because Kid Rock is the best of the available options.
Like Ted Nugent would be there too, but Kid Rock's slightly better.
Slightly cooler than Ted Nugent.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Understood in its proper context, this is Alex complaining that the celebrities they have kind of suck and aren't as cool as celebrities who like Harris.
It probably does suck for him to know that Taylor Swift showing up at a Harris rally is not an unimaginable thing to happen, and she's a giant star.
Like, what would Trump have to counter that?
Like, maybe get Ye to come out and complain about Jewish people for a little bit?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Which is ironic because he interrupted Taylor Swift at the music awards.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, you know, during the 40s and 50s, all right, your straight-laced, we don't like to have fun people.
They had the classy, cool celebrities at the time.
You know, they had people who were like really attractive, closeted, and were willing to say that they hated the commies.
They don't have that.
They don't even have classy people anymore.
They just got trash.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
They got Kid Rock.
They got Dana White.
They got Nugent.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Brutal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Roseanne.
Roseanne, I think, maybe she's on the JFK chick.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
I agree.
RFK checks.
You know, I have suddenly started to think about RFK Jr. a lot more seriously.
And I've realized something.
If there was ever going to be a childhood that could lead to somebody like RFK, he had it.
There's nothing that you can compare a life like his to, period.
So, I mean, he should be fucking nuts.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I mean, I think you should be very far away from the presidency.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Agreed, but also he should be nuts.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
That's reasonable.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
In a way that should make a good TV show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I'm not going to judge him.
His childhood was beyond five.
I could never even relate to him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Having one relative assassinated is enough to really send you in a weird direction.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Crazy.
Two nuts.
Dad, uncle, both possible presidents, but one president.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Like crazy.
Absolute lunacy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Then you get a worm in your brain.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
And then you're, then you're, and everybody's had a conspiracy theory about everything about your entire life.
Camelot.
Yeah, absolutely.
And the son of your uncle is dead.
Like, it's all nuts.
Yeah.
It's all nuts.
No, there's no, and Ted Kennedy was your living relative.
Ted Kennedy was the one you were like, well, thank God he's alive.
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, there's no bar for sanity.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
No, if he was okay, I would think we should all be terrified about the rest of our behavior.
Because if you could be okay after that, we have no excuse.
None of us have excuses.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
He's done a lot of damage to people through like the anti-vax shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Considering the circumstances, as a human, he's shockingly fine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, it's wild.
It is wild.
To grade on a curve with RFK requires a lot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
So Biden gave an interview and he said that they were going to stop Trump from being elected.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Good.
Biden has come out and repeated what Raskin and others are saying, that there will not be a peaceful transference of power if Trump is re-elected.
They're going to have civil unrest, civil war conditions.
I played that clip of Raskin the last three days over and over again.
Biden goes on national TV, says the same thing yesterday.
Does that get your attention yet, folks, of what we're facing?
We've then got all the dirty tricks Kamala Harris is pulling to get big crowds out for her finally by claiming there's going to be these big music acts there.
And then as soon as the music act's done, everybody leaves.
Totally pathetic.
We've got all the evidence of that.
Walls is done in any real universe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
This just feels fully disconnected from reality in a way that's whinier than Alex usually is.
There's usually a bravado and toughness in the way he skews reality, but this just seems kind of weak.
Like the Biden clip has taken out of context.
The clip of Raskin he's talking about is saying something else entirely, and it's from February.
Tim Walz is polling very well and is not done by any stretch of the word.
His recent polling numbers show a net favorability of plus 11 compared to JD Vance at a negative 9.
And it's not a dirty trick to have famous people at your rallies.
Trump does it all the time.
It's just most of the people he can pull are very past their prime, like Kevin Sorbo or Scott Bayo or something.
Typically, Alex kind of gives off the vibe of a kid railing about how school doesn't tell you the whole story.
And while that can be annoying at times, and this kid doesn't know the whole story either, it's at least an interesting character.
It's kind of compelling.
In an instance like this, Alex reads more like a kid pointing at a party he wasn't invited to, trying to explain to you why it's not fun to go to parties and you don't want to be invited in the first place.
It's just not, I don't know.
It's just, it's not a fun character.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
The thing that happened that ruined everybody is that Trump won.
Because they all thought Trump was going to lose in 2016 and they were having a great time with it.
They were like, fine, we're going to have Hillary as a monster president, but that's going to be great for us.
We're going to be able to bitch about her forever.
Even, I mean, we're still in it.
They're still doing it.
And she wasn't the president, you know.
But we could be where we were in 16.
They could be stoked.
They could be like, thank God Trump is going to lose.
So we'll have somebody who's actual, who we can hate in the White House.
You know, it'll be great.
But they actually think that he should win, which is like, no, go back to 16.
You knew he shouldn't win.
You knew it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, the problem is expanding what is possible past what is good for you.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Like all of this shit works so well when it's Ron Paul, perennial loser.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
You shouldn't win.
You're in a more successful place when you lose.
It's Taoist.
unidentified
Ooh.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
That's right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
It's deep.
Yep.
So Alex rambles a bit more about Tim Walz.
And it's just, I don't know.
He's done.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
It's one thing if you're enlisted, people look down on it.
There's one thing if you draft Dodge, people look down on it.
But if you are an officer for 20 years and finally get called up to run artillery in Afghanistan and you cut and run, that right there is a total disqualifier.
You want that guy as a vice president?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
You want Trump who gets shot and pops right back up and says, fight, fight, fight.
I mean, these two clowns are incredible.
And another video is resurfaced if two veterans confront Wall staff over false allegations of service claim.
Told them stolen valor act violations could lead to jail time.
So this is all just pouring out right now.
So we're going to show the clip we showed yesterday of him giving a speech lying about a combat veteran.
The new video that just came out last night of him on C-SPAN saying it.
And then him being confronted years ago over it, and then confronted again today.
I mean, I smell blood.
Fee, fi, faux, fum.
I smell the blood of Pedo scum.
Be he live or be he dead?
I'll grind his bones to make my bread.
I smell victory.
I smell defeat of our enemies.
unidentified
Do you?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
But that only makes them more dangerous now they're so cornered.
But I do see victory in most paths forward.
Some will be very costly.
Some not costly at all.
I don't really see any paths to victory for our enemies long term.
We have turned the tide.
That means there's some utopia we're offering and a free lunch and all that crap.
But humanity's really tough to kill.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Mixed messages here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
I have no idea what he was trying to say.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I think he was just trying to be triumphant and all that shit, but then he realized that we also have to be scared.
Right.
So you got to be too triumphant.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
So difficult.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
You got to inject that scared stuff or else why would anybody listen to this dumb shit?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
It is very difficult, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
But yeah, we've turned the tide.
Humanity is hard to kill.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
What?
Man, that's it.
See, this is another problem with where they got stuck.
They just wrote themselves into a corner because once Kamala took over, like, you've got the opportunity to be like, hey, guess what?
Now we got a real fight on our hands so we can step up our game even more.
They should be crazy right now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
You think they wrote themselves into the corner?
The same people who are up against the devil?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yes.
Crossed the Event Horizon 00:15:47
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
No shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
But that's the problem.
If you're up against the devil, you can fucking go anywhere.
They've written themselves into a corner thinking that Trump can win or should win or whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
No, no, they've written themselves into a corner because they don't believe this shit.
unidentified
They don't believe that it's the devil, but they've gone full devil.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Once you believe it's, or once you go full devil, fuck it.
You've crossed the event horizon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Right, but you don't actually believe that, so you're not going to behave as if it's the actual devil.
And that's the problem.
That's the corona that's been written into.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
You're right.
I'm just a different person because when I see a challenge like this where it says break with reality or retreat, I just feel like if you're Alex, break with reality.
Remember the Alamo.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Why would you ever retreat?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
No, I agree.
But this is a little bit retreaty.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
So Alex plays that clip of Biden accidentally revealing that he's going to stop Trump from getting into office.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Accidentally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
But let's begin with this.
If Joe Biden with his fried brain said this, and he was the only one saying it, and it wasn't Mudd of the CIA and Pelosi of Congress and Raskin of Congress and, I mean, just hundreds of these clips, professors, movies, TV shows, fiction, nonfiction, civil war.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
What?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
If he just said this alone, I'd be like, ah, it's his fried brain.
It's not.
He gets in these meetings and he's getting senior.
He can't keep what the real plan is versus the fake plan he puts out in the public.
So they ask the question, so will there be a peaceful transfer of power?
Well, Not of Trump wins.
I mean, I mean, you know, if he loses.
So this is a big, big deal.
Joe Biden tells CBS News he's not confident at all that there will be a peaceful transfer of power if Donald Trump loses.
But what he really said was wins.
So see the media spinning it for him at every level, carrying his water.
Here's what he really said.
unidentified
Are you confident that there will be a peaceful transfer of power in January 2025?
If Trump wins, no, I'm not confident at all.
I mean, if Trump loses, I'm not confident at all.
He means what he says.
We don't take him seriously.
He means it.
All the stuff about if we lose, there'll be a bloodbath.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
See, this is the magic thing about having your villain be like this crazy person who doesn't even know how to talk and you can just, whenever you want something to actually be his point, you can really overemphasize like a misspeaking like this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
You know, it would be his fried brain in other circumstances, but this time it's deadly serious.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
It's just arbitrary.
You can just pick whatever you want.
It's great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
Yeah.
I do appreciate that nobody's quite like all of the enthusiasm is coming from people who really were miserable about the idea of defending Joe Biden after every one of these fucking clips.
That's where all the enthusiasm is coming from.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
That's where a lot of relief comes from.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
You're not going to get, you're not going to attack people with clips of Biden and have them go like, oh no, they're all going to be like, yeah, fuck that guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
But even if everybody wants him gone.
But even if you're not, you're going to see that clip and be like, oh, yeah, you misspoke.
The way he cares.
He has a hundred fucking times.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Who cares?
tommy robinson ▲ ● ▼
He's a million years old.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
He's the whole thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
He's a million years old.
We all had our hands tied behind our back and we got him and now we got rid of him.
We don't care.
We don't care.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
This is not a secret revelation of some sort of nefarious plot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
We all knew he was plumping.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
He was plumping.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
We all knew he was plumping.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
He's bumping.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
We were all telling you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
10 bags.
Yep.
So remember on our last episode, someone called in and challenged Alex's masculinity?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yes, I do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
This is still bothering.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Oh.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
So when you're conscious, you just see their moves.
When you're not, you're like, oh, well, there's going to be a hack attack.
Don't worry.
The votes has integrity, but the system that makes sure it has integrity, it's going to be shut down.
Ah.
And then when it happens, oh, the FBI is so smart.
Man, they predicted exactly what happened.
How do they know they're so smart?
They think we're stupid, folks.
We're just dialed in and dialed up.
You see it all.
And the proof is all the predictions we make basically come true, almost all of them, except the ones we make that stop them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Oh.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
That's the real goal here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
That's magic.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Not sit back and say, see, I told you so, to warn you what's coming.
And we get awake and we say no and we're watching and we're taking action legally and lawfully and we stop them.
But the caller called in here, he goes, you always see legal and lawful.
You're a wimp.
You don't want violence.
And I said, okay, who do we kill?
Oh, click.
Ed call.
Click.
Let's see if we get Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Our producer hung up on the answer.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Under the Declaration of Independence, we've been attacked with the poison shots, all of it.
Yeah, sure.
We have a right in the law and common sense to defend ourselves.
But you're going to choose the targets you're going to launch in this big complex society, this thing?
The Pentagon will tell you.
And they're right.
They said 20 years ago, today it's even more.
90% of war is information.
That's why I named it InfoWars.
27 years ago, I started the website.
But 30 plus years.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Wait, is that why?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
So I'm doing the war here, okay?
This is the war.
We use the truth and integrity.
It's the ace of spades.
They use lies.
They're little joker cards.
They got unlimited joker cards.
They just shoot joker cards at us all day.
unidentified
It's like a gatling gun.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
I'm just BS.
But when you got the Ace of Spades, you go, the Ace of Spades, the Ace of Spades.
The only God I need is the Ace of Spades.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
You think Lemmy is a Trump guy?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
My God, that I'm quoting.
That great song.
That we should go out to break with Ace of Spades from the start.
Two minutes of Ace of Spades.
With Lemmy.
Oh, yeah.
So.
A fusion of blues and hard rocks.
Amazing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
So.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
So.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I got lost a little bit in there.
I think Alex needs to maybe cool out a little bit about his bruised ego.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Could be a little bit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
If I were that caller and I was still listening, I would be laughing my ass off.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Oh, I mean, yeah, you've just bothered about this the next day.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He might as well be in the bathroom crying.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I'm not mad.
I'm a big boy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
I think Alex brings up such a great, weird point that is kind of the problem with everything that they all believe, right?
Is that prophecy does need to happen?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Well, unless the prophecy is fulfilled by something not happening.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Right, right, right.
But see, that's the problem.
Like, the prophecy either happens or you don't have a Bible.
You know what I'm saying?
Jesus has to die.
He can't not die.
You can't be like, hey, we saved him and then still have the same Bible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Well, maybe you could.
I suggest that everyone has literally been right about everything.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
As long as the times that they're wrong are times that they stopped the right thing from happening.
So everyone is 100% batting average if they allow themselves the loosest fucking standards, which Alex does for himself.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
That is, that is.
I worry that that is also a way of life that some therapist somewhere might be like, and now you're finally fully actualized.
You know, you can see.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I think it's more in line with the people who are doomsday prophets who then are like, I got the math wrong or whatever.
Sure.
I've been right about the end of the world every time, except for the times that I've stopped it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Wow.
I mean, but that's got to be all the times.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Or is the world ended?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I'm really good at it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
That would be such a weird.
Oh, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
We know that that's what Alex thinks, though.
I mean, it's just weird to hear it said.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, it is weird.
It is weird whenever somebody's like, no, seriously.
I understand when people say the TV is not listening to me.
But that's because the TV is listening to me when I tell them to tell other people to tell them that the TV's not listening to them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
The TV told me to be cool about how no one believes I'm absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, absolutely.
Jesus Christ.
Okay, fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Also, if you're like, the ace of spades does not fucking matter if you're playing against somebody who has a machine gun full of jokers because you're no longer playing a card game.
Sure.
The ace of spades holds no use.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Well, and spades is not the universal Trump.
So there are plenty of card games that have an alternating Trump suit.
You know, you can play hearts.
The Ace of Spades isn't going to do shit for you, aren't they?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Jokers are wild.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Well, fair enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
So Alex plays a clip here of Tim Walz, which is supposedly supposed to prove his stolen valor.
unidentified
He's done.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
He's done.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
He's cooked.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
He's done.
unidentified
What's your background?
And how did somebody from Nebraska end up in Minnesota?
Yeah, well, my wife's from Minnesota, so she took me away from it.
It's complicated.
The educational system in Minnesota was one that we kind of aspired to teach, and so I ended up in southern Minnesota.
My wife's been there for many generations.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
And your military background?
unidentified
I spent 24 years in the National Guard.
Some of that full-time.
I was an artilleryman.
I deployed in support of Operation Enduring Freedom.
My battalion provided base security throughout the European theater from Turkey to England in the early stages of the war in Afghanistan.
And that same battalion is now in Iraq at this time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Next call, Lawton, Oklahoma, for Congressman Tim Walz.
Good morning.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
This is supposed to be like the smoking gun, nail-in-the-coffin, stolen valor shit, but that clip's just true.
In 2003, Walls deployed for active duty in Italy, securing Air Force bases as part of the war in Afghanistan.
He didn't say that he was like in the shit or that he saw combat in Afghanistan, just that he deployed to Europe to provide base security as part of the war.
There's no gotcha in this clip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I'm listening to it, and I don't understand what Alex is using this for.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
And I mean, I get, if we were, if we're in like sword fighty times, I get the idea of being like, oh, well, he wasn't deployed in the actual fighting theater.
And it's like, man, we live in internet times.
It doesn't matter where you're at.
You are probably having a pretty significant impact on everything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Well, if in that clip he said, like, I was running and gunning on the streets of Kabul.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, then we're in a different place.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Okay, you're lying.
You're not telling the truth.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Accurately described his service.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
I was doing the thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
So Alex playing this as like some sort of proof of like he's lying.
It doesn't work.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
But that does not stop Alex from obsessing about this clip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
That helps.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
It's insane.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
But let's go back to the video of him on C-SPAN.
Because the crew pointed this out in my ear when we were playing it.
And I thought that too when I saw it last night.
There's the big tell when he talks about his unit was in combat and that was his service.
He gulps and kind of does the tell of, like if I said, you know, I beat Mike Tyson one time in an arm wrestling.
I beat my Tyson Armison contest.
No, I didn't.
Ripped my arm off.
So, again, this is, or I beat Mike Tyson.
I beat Mike Tyson.
He was 20 years old at his prime.
Yeah, go ahead and roll the video again.
I mean, look at this face of a liar.
Play it.
unidentified
There for many generations.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
And your military background?
unidentified
I spent 24 years in the National Guard, some of that full-time.
I was an artilleryman.
I deployed in support of Operation Enduring Freedom.
My battalion provided.
There for many generations.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
And your military background?
unidentified
I spent 24 years in the National Guard, some of that full-time.
I was an artilleryman.
I deployed in support of Operation Enduring Freedom.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
battalion provided um yeah play it again This is.
unidentified
There for many generations.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
And your military background?
unidentified
I spent 24 years in the National Guard, some of that full-time.
I was an artilleryman.
I deployed in support of Operation Enduring Freedom.
My battalion provided.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Now, play it through without the – play the clip through.
Go ahead and play it.
You got to love our computers.
We have like $70,000 computers, which are great, but you got to pay $500,000 for one that doesn't do this.
It's a little, if I ever get plenty of money around here, we're going to get the big, fancy, super badass systems that don't do this.
But it's okay.
It's ready now.
Here it is.
Play it.
unidentified
Draft.
What's your background?
And how did somebody from Nebraska end up in Minnesota?
Yeah, well, my wife's from Minnesota, so she took me there.
Actually, it was based on the educational system in Minnesota was one that we kind of aspired to teach in.
So I ended up in southern Minnesota.
My wife's been there for many generations.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
And your military background?
unidentified
I spent 24 years in the National Guard, some of that full-time.
I was an artilleryman.
I deployed in support of Operation Enduring Freedom.
My battalion provided base security throughout the European theater from Turkey to England in the early stages of the war in Afghanistan.
And that same battalion is now in Iraq at this time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Next call, a lot in Oklahoma for our conversation.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Oh, my God, Waltz.
I mean, if they put him on the stage with JD Vance, who is an admitted decorated Marine Combat veteran.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Look, I don't mean to impugn his service at all, but JD Vance also never saw combat.
He was in the Marines for four years in public affairs.
I feel like we have a bit of an underlying thing in our country where sacrifice for the public good is just something that we all give a nod to and respect.
Whether or not, you know, I think you can have problems with the wars and all of that, but just as a way of being polite, we all just kind of say, huzzah.
We can disagree that the wars or even military itself is in the public good, all of that.
But it becomes tacky to shit on individuals who make a choice to enlist because a lot of the time they do that in service of the country, in interest of serving their fellow citizens.
I mean, it's just kind of like it's kind of shitty.
It's just, it feels like a dead end for Alex and all these folks attacking Walls like this.
There's a reason that Swift voting worked against John Kerry, and that's because he actively protested the Vietnam War after he returned, which many in the service saw as an affront.
He testified before the Senate in 1971 about horrific war crimes that were being committed by U.S. soldiers.
And because of this animosity that existed in his post-service career, there was a wedge that the GOP was able to exploit between veterans and Kerry.
Walls doesn't have this same dynamic, and trying to run that same script against him seems destined to backfire.
Like Alex is playing this clip and desperately trying to make it fit the frame that he set it up for, but it just kind of looks like shit.
Just looks stupid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
Well, I mean, you're never going to win an election if you point out how many war crimes we commit.
Let's just, let's just, like, if in your past you were like, oh, America's committing all those war crimes and I'm going to tell them, you're not going to be president.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
In 1971.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, I wouldn't try it.
But I'm not going to be president.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
But you understand that that kind of context is really what helped the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and stuff have a little bit of traction.
Evil Internet Shift 00:01:36
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
That's a really important part of the equation that's missing here.
And these clips are uncompelling.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
I mean, I would say also that during the Swift boat, it was a lot easier.
Here's what I do.
I will throw this out at you.
It was 2004.
So everybody was still on the like, we're probably not evil, right?
Now it's 20 years later.
You're evil.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
The end.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
So it's like the Iraq war had not been the good guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
We might bring stuff.
You know, we might have order and there might be democracy and stuff.
Like, hey, maybe there weren't, maybe there were.
But, you know, Hussein's gone, let's do the whole thing.
You know, now we're the bad guys.
We're just evil.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
The internet wasn't what it was then.
And so like a lot of the memes and sort of PR campaigns had a little bit of a different vibe to them than they do now.
Yeah.
There's a little bit of a freshness to this kind of a smear in 2004 where it's not a problem.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
It's the mono culture.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
This isn't going to stick.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
It's just not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
So Alex has a guest on the show.
He's a very important guest.
kirk elliott ▲ ● ▼
Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
This person is a theologian.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Oh, God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
But he's also Alex's gold sponsor.
Dr. Kirk's Gold Sponsorship Pitch 00:06:29
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Hooray!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Tommy.
Robins joining us with huge big developments where they're openly saying they're going to arrest anybody that shows the Muslims rioting and engaging in crime.
There is no law that says that.
They are just desperate.
This is wild.
And so much more today.
But I wanted to get Dr. Kirk Elliott, who's an amazing economist, degreed economist, and agreed theologian.
I'm the only one for 25 years, and I don't know what was wrong with me.
Not having a gold or silver sponsor for 12 years because I couldn't find one that wouldn't give people a good deal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Didn't give me a good deal.
Come on, man.
Come on.
My gold sponsor/slash theologian.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
When I was choosing gold sponsors, you know, I was thinking about the deal they were giving my customers.
Definitely not the deal they were given to me specifically.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
The precedent that was set by the great deals that Ted Anderson got his license revoked for offering customers.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, it really set the bar high.
Go fuck yourself.
So anyway, Kirk is on.
Right.
And he's here to sell gold, obviously.
Of course.
But I felt like while I was listening to him, there was a drop in confidence.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Sure.
So let's talk about this.
Let's go back to that graph then that you were saying two times in the past has happened, gold exploded.
Explain that to me.
kirk elliott ▲ ● ▼
So there's this technical level, right?
It's the S-T-O-C-H-R-S-I.
Basically, I don't know what that acronym stands for, but it's what technical traders look at.
Well, it has to do with not just supply and demand, but how much people are purchasing, what's available, all this stuff, right?
So once it hits that level, in the past, once it's hit that level, gold bumped up 450% after that.
The time before, it bumped up 1,800% after that.
And you know what, Alex?
We're at that level.
So we can't ever make guarantees, right?
We're not God.
We don't control the markets.
But these technical patterns tend to repeat themselves, and this is where— They don't tend to repeat.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
I mean, history repeats and rhymes.
It happens a little different, but it matches based on the tempo.
kirk elliott ▲ ● ▼
It does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
So if I were listening to this gold guy and he rattled off this acronym and then just said, I don't know what it stands for.
That's a problem.
I might have doubts that start to creep in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
It's a real problem.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I don't know if he knows what's up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
That's the problem.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
So this actually isn't an acronym.
It's an abbreviation for stochastic RSI with RSI standing for relative strength index.
This is an equation the traders use to try and find signals that a particular thing is over or underbought, thereby finding opportunities to make long or short buys on these things.
It's not a magic indicator and it's notoriously volatile, which is why people tend not to rely on it as a single indicator and use it solely for their guidance.
He's just trying to throw out like deep sounding financial things.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
But also having to admit, I don't know what this thing is or what it stands for.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
The more you spend time listening to like a totality of these people talk about the stock market, the more you're like, you guys are throwing bones in a turtle shell.
That's what you're doing.
You're just throwing bones and you're lying to me about it.
You're like, oh, these three bones look like this.
Now fuck you.
Fuck you with your RSI bullshit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Using a lot of words.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Throwing bones.
You're throwing bones in a turtle shell.
unidentified
Shut up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Now, I don't know what these bones stand for.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
I'll tell you.
unidentified
RSI.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Stochastic.
So you're dumb as shit.
That's true.
If you don't buy gold from Kirk, you're dumb.
You're fucking dumb.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
You get the best deals.
It supports the show.
KEPM.com forward slash gold.
Talmud show sent you 720-6005-3900.
They make 8%.
You can sell it back for nothing.
And that goes into their marketing, their crew, everybody, their sponsorship, everything.
They made the decision 25 years ago to have very small margins, but to have the biggest audience, and they've done it.
The place to go is under Kirk Elliott at KEPM.com forward slash gold or 720-6005-Twain 3900.
That's 720-6005-3900.
Dr. Kirk Elliott, thank you so much.
God bless you.
We'll talk to you soon.
kirk elliott ▲ ● ▼
God bless.
See you, Alex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Call him right now, folks, or you're stupid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
You're stupid.
That's harsh.
Man, that's a real mean thing for Alex to say as a sales pitch.
So Kirk Elliott's alleged model is that you pay him an extra 8% on top of what you buy.
And then when you want to resell your gold, there's no additional fee.
That's fine in theory.
But I'm being very generous when I pretend to believe that there aren't other hidden fees in the background somewhere.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Very generous.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Even assuming that this is all straight up and these are the only expenses, you still need to see an 8% increase in the price of gold to break even with what you bought from Kirk.
Right now, as I was prepping this episode, gold was at $2,431 per ounce.
In order to get your money back from Kirk, you need to resell it to him when it's at $2,625 per ounce.
That's a fine gamble if you want to make it, but gold has never hit that value.
On Wednesday, the price of gold took a dip and it hit $2,384 an ounce.
If you bought an ounce from Kirk on that dip, then you would have to have paid him $2,578 for it.
Even if you sell that back to him now after the bounce has already recovered, you're down $143.
If you get really lucky and you time it right and he doesn't have a bunch of hidden fees, then you could theoretically fleece this guy pretty good.
But most of the time, he's going to come out ahead with that 8%.
And that's the game.
You're almost never going to end up ahead at this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, I mean, the thing that I think I find most fascinating is like phones, phone numbers only exist for scams and medical bills.
Is that what I understand in 2024?
When was the last time you had an actual phone call that wasn't about a scam or some sort of bill?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
My parents, maybe?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Right.
But even then, that's because they're the only people who get scammed and pay bills.
Arrested and Incited 00:15:50
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Their texts go to phone numbers.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
But you don't need it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Right.
It's the phone number thing.
If somebody gives me their phone number, like, this is a scam.
You're scamming me.
Because if you need to be able to talk to me, then that means you need some sort of social engineering aspect to sell me off the bus.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, definitely.
And this is sold on the way of like, no, we want to talk to you and get to know you.
unidentified
No, Your needs are.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
There are no needs that I need to give you 8% VIG for.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Look.
There's no price.
There's no extra money when you sell it back.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
You can't put a price on peace of mind.
That's what the real thing is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
This is insurance you can eat.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
So Tommy Robbins or Tommy Robinson is back on.
Sure.
He ends up getting a call in the middle of the interview and has to leave.
But before he does, he whines a bunch.
tommy robinson ▲ ● ▼
One man just got sentenced today, an Englishman.
He's near enough a pensioner, 59 years old.
He just got 26 months in jail for shouting aggressively at police.
I kid you not.
Shouting.
26 months for shouting at police.
And ask the question again.
Where was the equivalent for the Romanians and Muslims that rioted?
Where are the equivalent raids like this?
How come we've not seen all their pictures in the news?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
So there are actually two people who were arrested and sentenced to 26 months in the incident that Tommy is talking about.
Stephen Malin and Ryan Shears were both wasted on the street when they decided to join a mob that was targeting migrant homes.
They were both yelling at the cops and there was a standoff and police bit Shears pulling down his pants.
Malin then tried to attack the dog, which led the officers trying to detain him, at which point he started kicking the officers.
There were at least three other people arrested as part of this violence that broke out in Hartlepool, including two people for throwing shit at the police and an 18-year-old dude who was busting out windows.
He told the police, quote, it's okay, everyone else is doing it.
Tommy is lying about the circumstances of this arrest because his goal is to portray the situation as one where the government is out to get the poor victimized white people while giving a pass to the Muslims who are gleefully running amok and killing white people all over the place.
By creating this image, Tommy is trying to create justification for mob violence, like what happened in Hartlepool to break out, where people, particularly white people, feel like the only thing they can do to fight for their survival is to terrorize migrants.
Tommy's job is to make these people feel like they're not just acting out their violent racist impulses, or at a minimum, that those violent racist impulses are justified.
That's why that crowd in Hartlepool was, quote, shouting racial slurs and the word Tommy while they threw bottles and planks at the cops, according to the BBC.
As he explained himself, Tommy's job is to throw petrol on the fire to stoke the embers of racism in this audience, then portray anyone who acts on those impulses as a victim in order to continue throwing petrol on the fire.
That's what he's doing.
And Alex is gleefully and very consciously helping.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
It's all working the plan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Yep, yep, more or less.
And Tommy's still on his own.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
It's going on vacation.
I mean, it's going great for him.
If I was him, I would honestly be stoked at everything that's going on right now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
He is crushing it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
If he has his monetization in place, then he's probably killing it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Listen, hey, at the end of the day, good business is good business.
This is America.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
So they complain a little bit more because that's the game.
unidentified
Yeah.
tommy robinson ▲ ● ▼
What we saw yesterday, Alex, was a Labor, our government, Key Starmer, two-tier Kia, one of his counselors stood on the streets and said, We need to slit all of the far-right's throats.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
And by the way, we're going to pull that clip up.
It's his name is Jones.
I'm actually saying my name now.
His name is Jones, a council, city council member saying kill and murder and slit the throats.
And they're just randomly running into pubs and beating up white people.
We have the videos.
tommy robinson ▲ ● ▼
And they're all cheering.
They're all cheering as he's doing it.
And this is the Labor government.
We actually, what people need to understand is we live under communism.
People just don't realize it yet.
We're already there.
We're not heading towards communism.
We're there already.
We've got people getting 26 months for shouting at the police.
We've got a total two-tier judiciary, two-tier policing system.
I'll let him play his voice.
But he calls for the murder.
He calls for the murder of people.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Since you mention it, let's play the clip with audio.
Here it is.
tommy robinson ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, folks.
unidentified
We've got children and women using those trains destroying the summer relevant.
They are disgusting nothing.
And we need to cut all their friends and get rid of the road.
tommy robinson ▲ ● ▼
I'm just going to say thank you all.
unidentified
Free!
God bless you all.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
So, Tommy, if you said, go slit brown people's throats, who you're not even against, you would be thrown in prison for life.
Here's a member of a major city council saying, go out and kill the English Defense League that hasn't existed in 10 years and was multiracial.
They're literally running around.
I have hundreds.
I can't even watch them all.
I have like dozens on my list here of them beating.
They'll just find a white person and beat their brains out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Oh, wow.
So they're saying that this guy, Ricky Jones, should be arrested for saying that far-right Nazi fascists should have their throats slit.
He was almost immediately suspended from his position as counselor.
Reps from the Labour Party denounced his actions, and then he was arrested.
This dude was arrested.
Exactly what they wanted to happen happen.
I think that what happened makes a lot of sense.
The UK doesn't have the same free speech laws as we do, and his comments were pretty out of line.
So I don't think it's that big of a deal that he ended up getting arrested.
I'm not sure how Alex and Tommy as free speech absolutists justify that, though.
I get that they would want to see this guy not being arrested and then use that as some kind of proof that there's a two-tier justice system where he can get away with this, but Tommy keeps getting in trouble for his clear incitement.
That's just playing a good aggrievement game.
I get in trouble for this, but he doesn't because the world hates white people.
The problem is that the dude was arrested, which entirely deflates this talking point.
Tommy's just a whiny fucking asshole.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Anyway, he's on vacation.
I hope he's having a great time.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
It reminds me of, this is a weird story, and I'm not going to put his business out too much, but my older brother, he's got a kid, right?
And he's just now finding out about new math.
People talking about new math.
And I'm just now finding out because I don't have kids and I never really paid attention to any math.
So he's going off on blah, right?
Now, my little sister, she's got a husband, math teacher.
So they're talking, right?
And eventually it gets to this point where he realized my older brother does not know what new math really is, right?
So the math teacher starts explaining it.
That's how my older brother has been doing math before.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
It's just been rebranded as new math.
tommy robinson ▲ ● ▼
Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
He had been doing this because it made more sense for him to do it at the beginning than the way they were teaching it.
And so now the system is actually teaching it more like what he thought that it should be taught.
And so this whole like mess of thoughts inside of his head was coming about.
And then it all hit.
And then he was like, oh, well, then it's not a problem.
Like, that is the problem.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
The problem is what you're projecting onto it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Exactly.
If you're this, if this is what you want, then being arrested, then you have to be like, oh, okay.
Next.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
But you don't want that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Exactly.
That's where, that's where that if.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I want this person not getting arrested to be the double standard that like, so I should be fine.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
If my older brother then immediately went, well, they should teach the old way so I can bitch about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
You know, then you're like, well, then we're wasting everybody's wasting their time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, exactly.
And that's what Tommy's doing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Except with hate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
With instead of math.
But if it was just, like, it was so great to see, too, because my older brother was just like, really?
Well, that's good news.
Like, it was nuts.
They figured out a better way.
They figured it out.
Yeah, it was awesome.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
So something that's not awesome is Laura Logan.
She is on.
We talked about her a little bit in the past.
She used to be a real reporter and now it's not.
So she hosts a show on Friday.
And Alex has her on this episode.
And she seems a little bit dumb about what's going on in the UK.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
You want to start with what's happening in the UK?
I know you've been following that in depth.
lara logan ▲ ● ▼
Well, what's incredible to me, the one thing I've been posting, trying to get people to understand is when you're having the same conversation in the United Kingdom and the exact same issues happening, that tells you that the policy behind it is exactly the same, right?
The people behind it are exactly the same.
And when you see people being arrested because of what they've posting on social media, it's so blatant what's happening in the UK.
I mean, you know, in the old days, you might have looked at somebody like Tommy Robinson and thought, okay, well, do I want to post this person because I don't want to be accused of being far right?
And now you see, wait a minute, this is ridiculous.
They are literally, they are literally attacking and arresting the people who are standing up, who are saying, hey, we have a problem in this country.
You know, young girls in a dance class were murdered, hacked to death.
And the media is being dishonest about how they're reporting this.
Our leaders are being dishonest.
I mean, people have had it, Alex.
You know this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
And they're blaming the journalist, Tommy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Tommy, no, don't blame Tommy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Blaming the journalist, Tommy.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
So when you see the same types of narratives being spread in countries with wildly different situations and political realities, maybe it's not a sign that a single shadowy group runs the world, but that xenophobic race-baiting propaganda is an effective tool, not just in the United States.
No one, including the media, is trying to say that the children killed in that dance class is no, it's no big deal or that it doesn't represent a problem that society needs to address.
The problem is that Tommy Robinson and his ilk immediately started using the story as a means of attacking immigrants because that's what they do.
This tragic incident isn't being handled realistically by these folks.
They're just trying to redirect the public's understandable outrage about it and use it to incite anger towards migrants.
And that's what people have a problem with.
If anyone is using this event maliciously, it's people like Tommy and Laura.
It's very clear now that the perpetrator was born in Wales and lived in the UK his whole life.
And they know that.
They continue on this false path that they're on because the fictional story of this young migrant killing white children, it's too powerful of an image of that for them to resist using to their advantage because they're also lazy.
When people in the UK are getting arrested for posting stuff on social media like Laura's talking about, it's generally direct incitement towards racially motivated violence, like calls to burn down migrant housing or very clear-cut misinformation about that dance class murderer that's being used to incite violence towards migrants, like people misidentifying him, which is illegal.
Yeah.
Shit like that.
These people like Alex and Laura know what they're doing.
They're running cover for folks like Tommy because they want to help him pour petrol on the fire.
They know what they're doing.
This is fucking stupid.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
So anyway, I was bored with Laura.
I don't care.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
She does not intrigue me much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Nothing to say, really.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
And then she said something in this clip that I wanted to know more about.
unidentified
Okay.
lara logan ▲ ● ▼
But if you want to know why the southern border is open, well, look at the Open Society Foundation.
That's why, because we have open border ideologues inside the administration.
And not only that, at the United Nations.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
I'm an open border ideologue.
lara logan ▲ ● ▼
They had a global compact on migration.
They made migration a human right.
And so what they said is it can't be illegal if you're exercising your human right.
And so that is why the Biden administration, as soon as they took office, said no one's allowed to use the word illegal anymore when it comes to immigration.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
And then we all do it and say migrant.
Exactly.
So.
lara logan ▲ ● ▼
Because now you are looking at the globalist policy on migration that has been implemented in your country.
You didn't get a chance to vote on it.
They bypassed the legislature.
They bypassed Congress.
I mean, they bypassed the people.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
And they bring in groups they control.
lara logan ▲ ● ▼
Well, you know, let's see how they control them because the groups that they're bringing in.
I mean, I'll tell you, Alex, about some of the things that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
I was about to say, that's the, you know, about Islamists since you've been all over the world, famously attacked by them.
Without getting into detail, I mean, they're really made a mistake here.
lara logan ▲ ● ▼
Well, I don't know what you mean by made a mistake precisely.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
You're saying the globalists think they can control these Islamic hordes.
I think I was reading into what you're saying.
You think they're going to bite them in the ass?
lara logan ▲ ● ▼
Well, the Arabs have a saying, actually, that when you let a snake into your garden, eventually it makes its way into your house.
And we've seen that happen all over the world, right?
And what you're, you know, what's interesting, though, Alex, is I know a gentleman who infiltrated the global cult.
And the part of the global cult, he did this on behalf of the United States government.
He spent years in training underground.
But he was assigned to the Islamic faction.
So I think one of the things that I always try to remember here when I think about him and the work that he did is that this is a global cult.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Islam's only one arm.
lara logan ▲ ● ▼
But there is an Islamist faction.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
So you know who that is?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Frank Dukes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
You're joking.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Yes, I am joking.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Oh, okay.
No, but here's the problem.
Here's the problem.
I could totally believe he rebranded later on as the guy who is like, yeah, I infiltrated the Islamic State.
Of course I did.
I'm Frank fucking Dukes.
It's not crazy enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Kumite to global cult.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
But that's the type of thing he would do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I was sent to the Muslim wing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Because it's like, it's not like he was, it's not like he was a pillar of the kumite was real before.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
No, I mean, this is just a kind of bloodsport-esque story that she's telling.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
100% fun, but 100%.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Come on, go fuck yourself.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
It would be great if it was Frank Deux.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
So, this story is something that Laura has been claiming since 2022, and it's a remnant of her QAnon roots.
She went on Eric Bowling's show on Newsmax and claimed to know this person who had infiltrated the cabal and was totally legit.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Just as a quick refresher on her career, Laura used to be a normal journalist, but got in trouble for reporting a story based on bad sources around Benghazi in 2013.
She was employed by CBS at the time and wasn't fired, but was kind of moved to the back bench, probably because her work wasn't good.
Then she went to work for Fox News, who fired her after she compared Fauci to Joseph Mengele, which pretty much closed the door for her being hired by any actual company, but made her a darling of the right-wing media that likes to just talk shit like Alex.
So she's kind of a hero for them.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
In her interview with Eric Bowling, where she revealed this totally not fake global cult whistleblower, she also said that the UN was bringing in immigrants to, quote, dilute the pool of patriots, and that folks like Yuval Noah Harari and the WEF want us to eat zabugs while they, quote, dine on the blood of children.
None of this was well received, and she was promptly banned from being interviewed on fucking Newsmax, who told the Daily Beast, quote, Newsmax condemns in the strongest terms the reprehensible statements made by Laura Logan.
Questioning Cartels' Allegations 00:05:55
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
We have no plans to interview her again.
Incidentally, Laura has never proved any of this shit about some idiot who infiltrated the global cabal that runs the world, and she mysteriously has the same gold sponsor/slash theologian as Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
That is weird.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
That is weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
That is really coincidental.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
That's very strange.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
I mean, you know, one is a coincidence.
We'd need two more examples of far-right figures with a similar gold salesman to have a sort of pattern.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I think that you find maybe his name pops up in some weird QAnon places that are a little bit off the beaten path of our radar.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
I am amazed because I do believe she has accomplished something that is, while not admirable, it is unique and requires something that I don't think the rest of us have, which is she has been banned from the three worst places that I can think of and still is not interesting.
She managed to be boring and banned from these places.
That's amazing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
It is pretty remarkable that you have sort of the small, medium, large CBS, Fox News, Newsmax, and it's all like, nope, you can't cut it here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
No Goldilocks.
No Goldilocks here.
Uh-uh.
You're not invited around these bears.
They will fucking murder you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
So come on, InfoWars.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
That's fine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
No standards here.
The desiccated husk of the fourth unholy bear forced to stay in the basement with no porridge at all.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
It's the bear that's in the basement riding a unicycle clagging symbols together.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Oh, God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
So rarely in life do you get to see someone literally embody a fallacy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
That is rare.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
But in this next clip, Laura Logan actually embodies it like in an encyclopedic definition way.
unidentified
Yep.
lara logan ▲ ● ▼
We have a serious problem in this country where the picture that I've been investigating for the last couple years, Alex, started with the question: are the cartels really the army of the deep state and the globalists?
Is that what you're looking at?
Because at the end of the day, although the United States military has been decimated with this ideology, I don't believe that most Americans who will put on a uniform in the service of this country will ever go to war against their own country.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
And that's why Pelosi called him a 13 God's children.
lara logan ▲ ● ▼
And that's why you need to have the cartels as your real army.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
She is literally begging the question.
Laura is pretending to be investigating the question of if the cartels are the military for the globalists.
And one of her premises that she uses to reach that conclusion is that the cartels are the military for the globalists.
This premise is unproven.
It's just asserted.
And much of this entire facade relies on you just accepting it because she said it.
This is not what a sincere investigator would do in this situation.
You wouldn't set out to answer the question: Are the cartels the military for the globalists?
Because how would you ever satisfactorily prove they're not?
It's pretty easy to imagine a situation where you've proved that they are.
Like, I don't know, you find invoices between the globalists and the cartels that say something like, services rendered being our military.
But there's no situation Laura is going to find herself in where she assesses the information available to her and says, Well, I guess I was wrong.
The cartels aren't the globalist military.
This is just a bullshit act.
It's super easy to see through.
And I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
There's free.
Okay, I'll say this: there's really nothing you can do in this day and age with a creative writing degree.
Okay, so that's just out the window.
Even if you're a published author, I know published authors now, and I know that there isn't even any money in publishing.
So there's no point in doing any of that, right?
Because she has done what is a great fiction writing tool.
What if, here's a question: what if, blank and blank, now I've got a prompt.
Now I write how this could happen, and now I've got a story.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, but that's got a story reporting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
That's not reporting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
No, it's called being a journalist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
No, that is what you get a creative to writing degree for.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
It's creative nonfiction.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
I don't believe in that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I just, I can't hang.
I can't handle it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
No, it's absolute trash.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
It's infuriating.
And so her big story that she has to break is that there were 70,000 terrorists that graduated from terrorist school, and they're all here now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Sometimes it really does feel like if you had a brigade of people with like straws and like wet stuff and just spit it at her whenever she said stuff like that, it'd be fine.
She'd be like, I'm sorry, you're right.
I'm covered in spitballs right now.
I clearly fucked up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
This is your bullying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
I mean, clearly everybody's fine with it now.
Everybody feels like it works.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I'm more interested in, I listen to her, and my mind just see a podium on a stage.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
And terrorists are coming over and getting a diploma from graduating terrorist school.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Kaleen Sheik Muhammad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
You get a diploma.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
But it's booby-trapped.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Or something.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Oh, that'd be fun.
No, you can't do that.
That's not good terrorism school.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
It's a hat on a hat.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
That's my criticism of terrorism school.
Hat on a hat.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
So I don't care about her breaking story based on some, I don't know, dumb nonsense.
Right.
But we have one more clip because I found this moment to be delightful.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
If they would have killed him, it would have been worse for them, actually.
Laura Logan Thinks They'll Try Again 00:05:16
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
I'm talking about killing, but be war game that they're not even thinking second, third order.
They're thinking immediacy.
I think they're going to try again.
Laura Logan, what do you think?
lara logan ▲ ● ▼
Well, I mean, the Secret Service has said they think they're going to try again, right?
I mean, a lot of very informed people are saying they're going to try again.
It certainly makes sense.
I mean, they are terrified of Trump.
They're absolutely terrified of him.
And he's not afraid of them anymore.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
And I know him well.
You know him well.
It's because he's real.
He makes mistakes, but he is the guy.
With Donald Trump, nobody's telling him what to do.
lara logan ▲ ● ▼
You know, I've never met Trump.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
You don't mind.
lara logan ▲ ● ▼
I've never met him.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
I saw Fozi and Mar-Lago and they were fake or I know.
lara logan ▲ ● ▼
I've been to Mar-a-Lago, but I never met Trump.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
No, Trump is behind the scenes like hanging out with a hillbilly or something.
He's completely straight up.
It's like you feel totally comfortable.
He's real.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
He's real, man.
I just like the moment of, you know, I'm good friends with him.
You're good friends with him.
I never met the guy.
Oh.
Look, let me tell you, he's cool.
He's like hanging out with the hillbilly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
It is, it is, you know, it is always fascinating whenever like the basic precept of yes and seems like the only one you should really have in this world.
And it's the it's like uncommon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
It's strange that she doesn't just roll along with Alex's very clear fake reality.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Everything, just yes and it.
Who cares?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
If you haven't blanked, you have, you don't have a infiltrator in the Islamic cabal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
No, it's a global cabal than just in the Islamic division.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
I was third place in the 70kg Islamic division.
I was pretty good at weightlifting for a while.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, I think that there's a lot of value to just going along with it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Just roll with this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Fuck yeah, he's a great guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
The end.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
But there's also something really fascinating about not because there isn't a real, like, there's no gain by correcting Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Nope.
It's self-image.
It's the self-image of the person.
The self-image of the person says, I have to say I have or have not met this person.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I disagree.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I think it's more rooted in, I think she might have some illusion that Alex isn't full of shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Okay.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
So you think it's her image of Alex that is keeping her own?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I think that she might think that Alex actually is close with Trump and that he has got information wrong about her.
And so she doesn't realize that he's making all of it up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Interesting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
It's also just bullshitting here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
That is fascinating.
I had not considered that.
It had never really occurred to me that she would not be 100% aware of what was going on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Well, she very clearly plays fast and loose with the truth.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Obviously.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
So, like, I can't imagine her being a stickler for.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
I mean, at a certain point, she has to believe that she is an honest person somewhere, which is crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
And I think that it's much more likely in my mind that it's based on this image that she has of Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Right, right.
So, because if it was like a lib, she would have no compulsion.
She would have no compunction lying to them.
Fuck the libs or whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Maybe.
Maybe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Interesting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Or, I don't know.
Who cares?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
I mean, sometimes it is like that is the type of thing that I'm truly, that's the only thing left to really be fascinated by now.
In a certain way, why did you do that?
Everything else makes sense to me.
Everything else makes sense to me in the game.
Everything else to me makes sense to me in money.
Everything else makes sense to me in power and like in just the way you get to feel whenever you get to say bullshit and have people go, you're not stupid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I've proved that the cartels are the globalists' army because the cartels are the globalist army.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
I get it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I understand what you're doing here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Why do you have to be aware of this about never meeting Trump?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
He's a nice guy.
You can say you've met people that you haven't met all the time and just be like, ah, they're nice.
Because it shortens the conversation that you don't want to have.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Maybe it's a situation where she thinks that Alex actually is close to Trump and is going to talk to Trump and be like, hey, I talked to Laura Logan and you met Trump is going to be a little bit more.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
I've never met that person.
Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
And that would be socially uncomfortable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Oh, my God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Maybe that's it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
It could be.
You know what?
Honestly, I think that would probably.
That's my highest probability at this point in time.
The idea of being caught out by an authority figure makes the most sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, I don't want this to get back to Trump.
I'll look tacky like I was trying to play cool for Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, it does make sense because deep down beneath all of this, they are just afraid of their dad getting angry with them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Or high school dad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, it's high school bullshit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Anyway.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Oh my gosh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Laura hosted the show on Friday.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Did she do a good job?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I don't know.
unidentified
I didn't watch it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
What's a good job even look like?
How do you even?
I don't even know.
Duct Tape Holding 00:00:47
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
I was going to say you don't leave, but Alex leaves fairly regularly.
So you can just bail.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
And it's like, how could you guest host a show and not be like, this whole place should be gone by now?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
Watching all the duct tape holding.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Wild guesses.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
$70,000 computer system that doesn't work.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
None of this should be here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
Nope.
And we'll see if it is later.
Because we'll be back for another episode.
But until that, we have a website.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
And DBDoo at Knowledge.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼
We'll be back.
But until that, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I am the mysterious professor.
Yeah, woo!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, woo.
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
Hello, Alex.
unidentified
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼
I love your work.
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