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#953: August 8, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan witness Alex continuing to try to find a good attack on VP candidate Tim Walz, hanging out with his British bigot buddy, and bullying his audience into buying precious metals.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
12:08
d
dan friesen
35:02
j
jordan holmes
22:36
Appearances
l
lara logan
03:20
t
tommy robinson
01:01
Clips
j
joe biden
00:03
k
kirk elliott
00:37
p
pastor david manning
00:02
s
steve quayle
00:02
t
tim walz
00:27
Callers
andy in kansas
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Riddler.
unidentified
Need.
alex jones
Need money.
unidentified
Riddler.
Riddler.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
andy in kansas
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your word.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
Knowledge Fight dot com.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody!
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
Deon.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Deon.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot today is actually...
I'm a little bit delayed on this, so I'd like to apologize.
I'm being sort of behind the times or what have you.
But it came to my attention that someone had made some animations of some of the clips of our show.
So I wanted to give a shout-out to that person.
Kudos to on YouTube.
Very, very funny.
Very, very...
It's very sweet.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
You know, and they really nailed the gray spot in my beard.
It's just...
jordan holmes
I mean, it is kind of...
unidentified
It's remarkable.
jordan holmes
It is kind of strange, especially because I remember almost the day we started talking about that gray spot in your beard like six years ago.
Yeah.
dan friesen
It really captured it, and the way that you kick your legs up whenever you're laughing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, 100%.
dan friesen
It's just fully in there.
jordan holmes
The energy is correct.
dan friesen
Yeah, and then also someone made a Brendan and Coach McGurk.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So thank you so much to Kevin for that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that one's ridiculous.
dan friesen
That was such a delight.
Yeah, it's interesting to see yourself in animation or to see these sort of jokes that you've made in a visual form.
jordan holmes
It's weird.
It's weird.
dan friesen
But it's nice, and I appreciate it, so thank you.
jordan holmes
I remember it reminded me of the...
There was a Comedy Central show that would animate some stand-up bits, and I still remember...
No, no, no, no.
One that would go specifically just to do animated bits, because I remember the ducks eat for free at Subway bit.
By Mitch Hedberg was turned into a really just perfect animation of what you would think of Mitch Hedberg buying bread for a duck.
dan friesen
Was it a comic remix?
jordan holmes
It might have been.
It might have been something like that.
But yeah, there were all of those animated clips and I remember thinking how much fun it was and how like, what a fun, nice little silly thing.
And then to...
I don't know.
dan friesen
It's weird.
It was also definitely part of Dr. Katz.
jordan holmes
Oh no, for sure.
For sure.
There was definitely that on Katz.
For sure.
No doubt.
dan friesen
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot?
I'm going to double down on the Olympics.
It was great.
And I was thinking, because the women's national team won soccer.
dan friesen
Gold.
1-0.
jordan holmes
Fantastic game.
57th minute.
Maller Swanson.
And then Alyssa Nair.
The goalie.
Her saves were just out of this world.
dan friesen
Unsung heroes, those goalies.
jordan holmes
I mean, not in this Olympics.
Also at the Mighty Ducks.
dan friesen
Goldberg got a lot of attention.
jordan holmes
Goldberg nailed it.
But then, I don't know, much like in the Olympics, a woman goalie was much better.
No, that was great.
And then Steph Curry and the men's national basketball team, they won gold on the same day.
dan friesen
Nice.
jordan holmes
Steph Curry threw four straight threes in from increasingly more ridiculous positions.
That's 12. Until the last one, he was double teamed.
I don't know if you...
There's this amazing picture, right?
Steph Curry, double teamed by two very large men, right?
Open, wide open, Kevin Durant.
All-time leading Olympic scorer.
Greatest shooter.
Greatest scorer.
Period.
All-time.
Wide open.
LeBron James.
Greatest basketball player ever to live.
Two guys.
Wide the fuck open.
Who shoots the ball?
Steph Curry.
Underneath.
Two very large men.
Almost like from behind.
And everybody's like, fuck yeah.
And he's going to make it.
And he did!
And the whole place went nuts!
dan friesen
It was awesome.
I have two important questions to ask you.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
The first.
In basketball, do they say from downtown?
jordan holmes
They sure do.
dan friesen
Okay, good.
I'm glad that hasn't gone out of style.
jordan holmes
There's downtown, there's behind the arc.
dan friesen
The high-rent district?
jordan holmes
No, that one has not been said for a long time.
dan friesen
Let's see, that's one also, I guess maybe high-rent district is maybe like...
More like when someone goes to the top rope and wrestling.
He has no business being up there!
jordan holmes
That would make way more sense!
dan friesen
Second question.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
When the women's soccer team, football team, wins the gold, does anyone slide on their knees?
jordan holmes
Do you mean, like, well, it was a different style.
Across the grass.
No, not like Brandi Chastain, of course.
The most famous of all slides.
dan friesen
That, to me, is an image...
jordan holmes
But usually that's like after a goal.
dan friesen
That's an important image of winning a soccer game.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
I think across the board.
jordan holmes
The slide and the...
But that's usually after you score a goal, not after you win the game.
That's the goal-scoring celebration where you kick it, you run to the corner, do the whole thing, and everybody jumps on top.
dan friesen
Zinedine Zidane headbutts someone and then slides on the knees.
unidentified
Everybody's like, yeah!
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's the way you do it.
dan friesen
Terry Henry.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this was the Great Olympics, and it was like...
It was so very obvious after I said it.
I was like, man, this is the best Olympics in a long time.
Then I thought for two seconds.
I was like, yeah, because there wasn't a fucking pandemic, idiot.
Of course it was a good Olympics.
dan friesen
It's been a little while since there's been a full-on Olympic.
I feel like I missed out a little bit.
I could have joined in.
I could have watched some.
jordan holmes
It really was great.
It just truly is.
It was such a great example of the, like, none of these people are really sure about where they come from, but when they come together and they're just competing with each other, like, they're friends, they've got it.
Where you're from is an excuse to meet other people who are good at stuff and compete.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's awesome.
dan friesen
And that is kind of a wonderful thing about the world being as connected as it is.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know?
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I'm glad you got to enjoy that.
jordan holmes
It was awesome.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we have something you will not enjoy as much.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
Why would you?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Shit sucks.
We got another dumb episode of Alex's.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
I keep saying episodes are dumb, and I just feel like we're in a bad rut.
I feel like we're in a bad place for Alex.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Because we're in this place where, in the real world, there's gaining enthusiasm for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.
The Democratic side is rejuvenated and people kind of feel like, alright, we'll vote for this.
And on the Trump side, it's just shitty disaster.
No one likes J.D. Vance.
Everyone's making excuses for all this garbage.
Someone tried to shoot Trump and no one cares.
It's just weird.
And then the other day, Rogan came out and was kind of like, you know, really like RFK Jr.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
And it just feels like everyone's...
dan friesen
There's a time limit here to leave Trump.
And I feel like Alex should be on the clock.
He should realize that this is not the way to go.
jordan holmes
It is always fun.
It is always fun to find out who believes in what they're saying and who is a loser.
Because I always appreciate it whenever people have the courage to be like, I'm getting off the train!
And then 12 hours later be like, never mind, I'll shut the fuck up.
I changed my mind.
dan friesen
In the case of Joe, I would say that he didn't say, I'm getting off the train or whatever.
Sure, sure, sure.
You know, he didn't double back as hard as like 180 degrees.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
But these people who are these right-wing media scam folks, they do need to recognize that the expiration date has kind of come.
jordan holmes
But they can't because the image is they are telling people how they feel.
Right.
But the reality is they're doing what they're told by an audience of people who are hungry to be lied to.
dan friesen
But I think that that audience may be coming to a point where they want to be told something else.
jordan holmes
Sure, but then they'll find different people.
They don't need you.
They don't want Alex to be a different person.
If they want a different person, they'll get a different fucking person.
There's plenty of them.
dan friesen
I just feel like it's time for Alex to start pretending that he never stopped Rand Pauling and Ron Pauling.
You know, it's time.
It's time.
jordan holmes
No, it would be a smart move for him for his everything.
For everything.
But I just don't think these people can do it.
dan friesen
We've had two straight election cycles where he's been all in for Trump.
And it's played out very differently both times.
And this third time, I just...
I think it's a mistake.
I think if he wants to stay relevant...
I'm not saying go with RFK, because that's a disaster, too.
Yeah.
alex jones
But...
jordan holmes
I do...
I do like a good three strikes you're out in a very literal way.
unidentified
And this is about as literal as it gets!
jordan holmes
They've tried for the third straight time.
Here we go!
dan friesen
So anyway, I just feel like we're in that place.
We're in that place where Alex needs to do something else.
And I think it would be really interesting if he could find it within himself to...
But you can't abstain from the election.
You can't turn now, because it's the devil.
It is the devil.
He's committed.
jordan holmes
In order to change, you'd have to admit you were wrong.
Otherwise, you can't change.
Like, that's the fundamental of where we are all across the board, across all political ideologies or whatever it is.
In order to change your mind, you'd have to first go, the thing that I thought before is not correct.
And that is not a thing.
dan friesen
Or you have to pretend so hard.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you have to work real hard, yeah.
dan friesen
I think that's possible.
jordan holmes
And it'd be very polite if everybody just ignored it and were like, yes, of course you didn't think that before.
We're fine with that.
dan friesen
I mean, you see indications of folks like Nick Fuentes who are being like, I've had enough, fuck Trump.
And these are not super shocking turns of events.
They're to be expected.
And that's the vanguard of where this ideology is going to go.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, the obvious thing to do would be for those people, like Alex and Joe and all of them, to get together and be like...
They got rid of their old white guy.
Now we demand it.
dan friesen
I think the cult of personality being so based around Trump had its upside, and now we're seeing what could be its downside.
There really isn't anyone to replace to fill in that spot.
unidentified
J.D. Vance going up to the top stairs.
dan friesen
Vance sucks.
Got really no viable...
I mean, what are you going to do?
Barron in there?
jordan holmes
Come on, let's see if Rubio's got it in him!
dan friesen
Don't feel like the white nationalist base is going to galvanize around Rubio, Romney.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Come on, man.
I've still got money out.
Give me Nikki Haley!
dan friesen
That bet's still outstanding?
jordan holmes
No, it is no longer.
They took it off.
But if she comes back, man, I feel like they have to...
I've got a lawsuit, at least.
dan friesen
Yeah, you can at least do the hashtag, Jordan was right.
jordan holmes
If she comes back, I think I do deserve money for that.
dan friesen
I think she ruined her chances at the RNC.
Yeah, me too.
So, look, we have an episode to go over, and we're going to be talking about the 8th, August 8th.
That's Thursday's episode.
Alex had Laura Logan host on Friday.
jordan holmes
Oh, my gosh.
dan friesen
So this was his weekend send-off.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And we'll get down to business on this, but before we do, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, the Beaver family, parenthetically.
Our dog did JFK.
No, we will not explain further.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Does not say the dog killed JFK.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
And we have no explanation.
jordan holmes
And we do know a lot about JFK that involves multiple meanings of the word did.
dan friesen
Thank you to Andrew Breitbart's unremarkable left testicle.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Our first live show.
jordan holmes
I swear, sometimes whenever I don't remember a reference to our own show, I feel insane.
dan friesen
Do you not remember that?
jordan holmes
I did afterwards, but there was a brief moment where I was looking at it going like, what have I done?
dan friesen
I get it, and I still think, what have we done?
Next, Dominic Mitchell.
Thank you so much.
You're in our policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you!
And hey, Bill.
Sorry about all the strokes and seizures.
Not sorry about giving some of our money to these guys.
Love, your broken wife, Christina.
Thank you so much.
You're in our policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And we've got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to Knowledge Fight.
Completed it, mate.
Thank you so much.
You're now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ!
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
So we start off here on the 8th with Alex talking about Walls.
We're going to figure out this Walls line of attack one way or the other.
alex jones
All right.
Tim Walls is done.
unidentified
Is he?
alex jones
He'll never get away with this.
They are now uncovering news article interviews and multiple TV interviews.
And speeches he gave where he claimed, in the technical nomenclature he used, that he is a combat veteran.
But instead, he betrayed those under his command and did just a terrible thing.
Veterans understand all the complexities of this, and that's why they're so outraged, because he stole Valor in a very technical, specific way.
Tim Walz stole Valor.
Valor fiasco is quickly becoming a disqualifying spectacle.
dan friesen
It's becoming pretty clear that this is the direction that we're going to go.
This is the attack that Alex is going to stick with.
unidentified
Gotcha.
dan friesen
So far on his show, Alex has shown a clip of Walls saying that people in the United States shouldn't be carrying weapons of war, and the only place those should be carried were like when he carried them in war.
This was at a speech at what appears to be like a town hall meeting, and Walls has already clarified that he misspoke in this setting and he didn't mean to cause any offense.
This is just a replaying of an attack that was used against him in his last governor's race back in 2022.
His opponent, Scott Jensen, employed all of the mudslinging tactics here against Walls' service.
And it just didn't work.
It's not really a super effective angle of attack because the facts are pretty compelling on Walls' side, and it's really easy to explain things that are a little bit iffy, like that aforementioned misspeaking.
He was enlisted with the National Guard for 24 years, where he could have retired at 20 if he wanted, but he stayed in despite enduring hearing loss from the artillery that he worked with.
So, you know, you can't really besmirch the tenure of his career and all that.
The other main attack about his service is that he retired just before his unit was set to deploy for Iraq, but there are strong indications that the deployment wasn't the catalyst of his retirement.
Walls has said that he was planning on retiring in order to run for office, at least in part due to his opposition to the war in Iraq, which he couldn't really oppose publicly while he was enlisted.
This makes total sense, and Alex should actually be in support of all that, which is why he needs to create this fake version of Walls' story to sell to the audience, because otherwise you'd be like, oh wait, that's what I would encourage someone to do in that position.
Retire so they can be critical of the war that I believe is unjust.
jordan holmes
That's very interesting.
This is an interesting line of attack.
I find this fascinating, not least of which because are we not the bad guys now in Iraq?
dan friesen
To Alex.
jordan holmes
But we, you know?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Because to me, the idea of somebody being like, hey, I'm not going to go murder people for money.
That makes sense to me.
I'm more on that team.
dan friesen
He was in the National Guard.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And when they were going, he did not deploy.
Well, he did deploy in the war in Afghanistan, but it was to Italy.
I think that any time you have somebody who's lying about what they did, it's distasteful.
Whether or not the thing that they're lying about was the perfect ethical thing to do.
Whether it's right or wrong to have been in the war.
Even leaving that aside, lying about it is kind of like, well, you're lying about this in a way that's disrespectful to other people's deaths and shit.
So I understand that.
Right.
unidentified
But Alex should be in favor of all of the concrete actions here.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
You were enlisted.
dan friesen
You can't criticize the war.
You want to criticize the war.
So you retire in order to try and affect change.
That's the narrative that Alex should be on board with.
Probably not.
Yeah!
jordan holmes
I mean, it is funny.
It is funny because it's very obvious that the problem here is that people who want to vote for the Democrats like Tim Walz, right?
And this is an unusual circumstance for people who want to vote for Democrats because that's never happened before.
It'll be interesting to see what happens.
dan friesen
And I also think that there's some people who would want to vote slightly to the right but fucking hate Trump.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Probably would like to vote for him, too.
jordan holmes
No, we're in a great Obama position where it's like, listen, the worst possible thing has happened in the past year, so...
Why not try a new thing?
Who fucking cares at this point?
dan friesen
Well, here's what you don't understand.
jordan holmes
Geithner's right around the corner.
dan friesen
Not Geithner.
jordan holmes
Everybody who's excited, everybody who's excited, I promise you, Geithner's right around the corner.
dan friesen
It is not.
jordan holmes
I guarantee you one million percent Geithner's right around the corner.
dan friesen
It is not him.
It is somebody else.
jordan holmes
Geithner's gonna fuck you.
dan friesen
No.
He's a much better songwriter.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
We've analyzed how Harris is finally getting some pretty big crowds.
Ten, twenty thousand people.
In Atlanta, Dearborn, Michigan, places like that.
Atlanta, Georgia, Dearborn, Michigan.
We have it right here.
They're telling people that there's going to be some big music stars there, and they'll announce one or two big ones, but say that there'll be a surprise one.
Then they have their surrogates, kind of a Democrat version of Cube, claim, oh, the word is it's Taylor Swift.
And we've caught them doing that.
And notice she's just canceled her tour.
Now the new blue QAnon, BlueAnon thing is Taylor Swift will be her new running mate when Walls drops out.
I mean, this is a train wreck.
dan friesen
Okay, this is just stupid, but whatever.
I'm sure there are some kind of lunatic accounts on social media pushing theories that Taylor Swift is going to swing in to be the vice president, but that kind of thing is probably something you should ignore if you're the tip of the spear.
Also, if that's what the blue side of QAnon is up to, the other one was about, like...
Demons and blood drinking and...
jordan holmes
Wait, wait, wait.
dan friesen
This is a little bit different.
jordan holmes
The conspiracy theory is Taylor Swift is going to be VP?
dan friesen
That's what Alex is saying, that the Blue Anon conspiracy theory is.
jordan holmes
That is low stakes.
That is low stakes.
For a billionaire to be like, I'm going to swoop in and be a VP?
That's dumb.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's dumb.
dan friesen
It's a little TMZ-ish.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I think what Alex is complaining about is buzz.
The Harris campaign has access to relevant acts.
So for instance, in Wisconsin they had Bon Iver, and in Atlanta, Megan Thee Stallion sang, totally do the same thing if he could, but most relevant bands don't like him.
He doesn't have Kid Rock performing at the RNC because Kid Rock is a meaningfully cool musician in 2024.
It's because Kid Rock is the best of the available options.
Like Ted Nugent, Would be there too, but Kid Rock's slightly better.
Slightly cooler than Ted Nugent.
jordan holmes
Man.
dan friesen
Understood in its proper context, this is Alex complaining that the celebrities they have kind of suck and aren't as cool as celebrities who like Harris.
It probably does suck for him to know that Taylor Swift showing up at a Harris rally is not an unimaginable thing to happen, and she's a giant star.
Like, what...
Would Trump have to counter that?
Like, maybe get Ye to come out and complain about Jewish people for a little bit?
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
Which is ironic, because he interrupted Taylor Swift at the music awards.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, during the, like, 40s and 50s, all right?
You're straight-laced, we-don't-like-to-have-fun people.
They had the classy, cool celebrities at the time.
You know, they had people who were, like, really attractive, closeted, and were willing to say that they hated the commies.
They don't have that.
They don't even have classy people anymore.
They've just got trash.
dan friesen
They've got Kid Rock.
They've got Dana White.
They've got Nugent.
jordan holmes
Brutal.
dan friesen
Roseanne.
Roseanne, I think, maybe she's on the JFK tip.
Or RFK tip.
jordan holmes
You know, I'm...
I have suddenly started to think about RFK Jr. a lot more seriously, and I've realized something.
If there was ever going to be a childhood that could lead to somebody like RFK, he had it.
There's nothing that you can compare a life like his to, period.
So, I mean, he should be fucking nuts.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, I think he should be very far away from the presidency.
jordan holmes
Agreed, but also, he should be nuts.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's reasonable.
dan friesen
In a way that should make a good TV show.
jordan holmes
Absolutely!
I'm not gonna judge him.
His childhood was beyond...
I could never even relate to it.
dan friesen
Having one relative assassinated is...
Uh, enough to really send you in a weird direction.
jordan holmes
Crazy.
Too nuts!
Dad, uncle, both possible presidents.
One president.
Like, crazy.
Absolute lunacy.
dan friesen
Then you got a worm in your brain.
jordan holmes
And then you're...
And everybody's had a conspiracy theory about everything about you for your entire life.
dan friesen
Your family is called Camelot.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
And the son of your uncle is dead.
Like, it's all nuts!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's all nuts.
dan friesen
Tappaquiddick.
jordan holmes
No, there's no...
And Ted Kennedy was your living relative.
Ted Kennedy was the one you were like, well, thank God he's alive.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's no bar for sanity.
jordan holmes
No, if he was okay, I would think we should all be terrified about the rest of our behavior.
Because if you could be okay after that, we have no excuse.
None of us have excuses.
dan friesen
He's done a lot of damage to people through the anti-vex shit and all that.
But considering the circumstances, as a human, he's shockingly...
Fine.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, it's wild.
It is wild.
To grade on a curve with RFK requires a lot.
dan friesen
So Biden gave an interview, and he said that they were going to stop Trump from being elected.
alex jones
Biden has come out and repeated what Raskin and others are saying, that there will not be a peaceful transference of power if Trump is re-elected.
They're going to have civil unrest, civil war conditions.
I played that clip of Raskin the last three days over and over again.
Biden goes on national TV, says the same thing yesterday.
Does that get your attention yet, folks, of what we're facing?
We've then got all the dirty tricks Kamala Harris is pulling to get big crowds out for her finally by claiming there's going to be these big music acts there.
And then as soon as the music act's done, everybody leaves.
Totally pathetic.
We've got all the evidence of that.
Walls is done in any real universe.
dan friesen
This just feels fully disconnected from reality in a way that's whinier than Alex usually is.
There's usually a bravado and toughness in the way he skews reality, but this just seems kind of weak.
Like, the Biden clip is taken out of context.
The clip of Raskin he's talking about is saying something else entirely, and it's from February.
Tim Walls is polling very well and is not done by any stretch of the word.
His recent polling numbers show a net favorability of plus 11 compared to J.D. Vance at a negative 9. Mm-hmm.
or something.
Typically, Alex kind of gives off the vibe of a kid railing about how school doesn't tell you the whole story.
And while that can be annoying at times, and this kid doesn't know the whole story either, it's at least an interesting character.
It's kind of compelling.
In an instance like this, Alex reads more like a kid pointing at a party he wasn't invited to, trying to explain to you why it's not fun to go to parties, and you don't want to be invited in the first place.
It's just not...
Yeah.
jordan holmes
The thing that happened that ruined everybody is that Trump won.
Because they all thought Trump was going to lose in 2016, and they were having a great time with it.
They were like...
Fine, we're going to have Hillary as a monster president, but that's going to be great for us.
We're going to be able to bitch about her forever.
I mean, we're still in it.
They're still doing it.
And she wasn't the president, you know?
But we could be where we were in 16. They could be stoked.
They could be like, thank God Trump is going to lose, so we'll have somebody who we can hate in the White House.
You know, it'll be great.
But they actually think that he should win?
Which is like, no, go back to 16. You knew he shouldn't win.
You knew it.
dan friesen
Yeah, the problem is expanding what is possible past what is good for you.
unidentified
Yep, yep.
dan friesen
Like, all of this shit works so well when it's Ron Paul, perennial loser.
jordan holmes
You shouldn't win.
You're in a more successful place when you lose.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's Taoist.
unidentified
Ooh.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's right.
dan friesen
It's deep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So, Alex rambles a bit more about Tim Walz, and it's just, I don't know.
He's done.
alex jones
It's one thing if you're enlisted.
People look down on it.
There's one thing, if you draft dodge, people look down on it.
But if you are an officer for 20 years and finally get called up to run artillery in Afghanistan and you cut and run, that right there is a total disqualifier.
You want that guy as the vice president?
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
You want Trump who gets shot and pops right back up and says, fight, fight, fight.
I mean, these two clowns are incredible.
And another video is resurfaced of two veterans confront Wall's staff over false allegations of service claim.
Told them Stolen Valor Act violations could lead to jail time.
So this is all just pouring out right now.
So we're going to show the clip we showed yesterday of him giving a speech lying about a combat veteran.
The new video that just came out last night of him on C-SPAN saying it.
And then him being confronted years ago over it, and then confronted again today.
I mean, I smell blood.
Fee-fi-fo-fum.
I smell the blood of pedo scum.
Be he live or be he dead, I'll grind his bones to make my bread.
unidentified
I smell victory.
alex jones
I smell defeat of our enemies.
unidentified
Do you?
alex jones
But that only makes them more dangerous now they're so cornered.
But I do see victory in most paths forward.
Some will be very costly, some not costly at all.
I don't really see any path to victory for our enemies long term.
We have turned the tide.
Doesn't mean there's some utopia we're offering and, you know, a free lunch and all that crap, but humanity's really tough to kill.
dan friesen
Mixed messages here.
jordan holmes
I have no idea what he was trying to say.
dan friesen
I think he was just trying to be triumphant and all that shit, but then he realized that, like, we also have to be scared.
Right.
unidentified
Jesus.
dan friesen
And so I gotta be, can't be too triumphant.
jordan holmes
So difficult.
dan friesen
Gotta inject that scared stuff or else why would anybody listen to this dumb shit?
jordan holmes
It is very difficult, yeah.
dan friesen
But yeah, we've turned the tide.
Humanity is hard to kill.
jordan holmes
What?
unidentified
Man, see, this is another problem with where they got stuck.
jordan holmes
They just wrote themselves into a corner because once Kamala took over, you've got the opportunity to be like, hey, guess what?
Now we've got a real fight on our hands so we can step up our game even more.
They should be crazy right now.
dan friesen
You think they wrote themselves into the corner?
The same people who are up against the devil?
jordan holmes
Yes!
dan friesen
No shit.
jordan holmes
But that's the problem!
If you're up against the devil, you can fucking go anywhere.
They've written themselves into a corner thinking that Trump can win or should win or whatever it is.
dan friesen
No, they've written themselves into a corner because they don't believe this shit.
They don't believe that it's the devil, but they've gone full devil.
jordan holmes
Once you go full devil, fuck it.
You've crossed the event horizon.
dan friesen
Right, but you don't actually believe that, so you're not going to behave as if it's the actual devil.
And that's the problem.
That's the corner that's been written into.
unidentified
You're right.
jordan holmes
I'm just a different person because when I...
I see a challenge like this, where it says, break with reality or retreat.
I just feel like, if you're Alex, break with reality!
Remember the Alamo!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Why would you ever retreat?
dan friesen
Yeah.
I agree.
But this is a little bit retreat-y.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is.
dan friesen
So Alex plays that clip of Biden accidentally revealing that he's going to stop Trump from getting into office.
jordan holmes
Accidentally.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
alex jones
Let's begin with this.
If Joe Biden with his fried brain said this, and he was the only one saying it, and it wasn't mud of the CIA and Pelosi of Congress and Raskin of Congress and, I mean, just hundreds of these clips, professors, movies, TV shows, fiction, nonfiction, civil war.
dan friesen
What?
alex jones
If he just said this alone, I'd be like, ah, it's his fried brain.
It's not.
He gets in these meetings and he's getting seen all.
He can't keep...
What the real plan is versus the fake plan he puts out to the public.
So they ask the question, so will there be a peaceful transfer of power?
Will not have Trump wins?
I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, you know, if he loses.
So this is a big, big deal.
Joe Biden tells CBS News he's not confident at all that there will be a peaceful transfer of power if Donald Trump loses.
But what he really said was wins.
So see the media spinning it for him at every level, carrying his water.
Here's what he really said.
unidentified
Are you confident that there will be a peaceful transfer of power in January 2025?
joe biden
If Trump wins, no, I'm not confident at all.
unidentified
I mean, if Trump loses, I'm not confident at all.
He means what he says.
We don't take him seriously.
He means it.
All the stuff about if we lose, there'll be a bloodbath.
dan friesen
See, this is the magic thing about having your villain be this crazy person who doesn't even know how to talk.
jordan holmes
So much easier.
dan friesen
You can just, whenever you want something to actually be his point, you can really overemphasize a misspeaking like this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, it would be his fried brain in other circumstances, but this time it's deadly serious.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's just arbitrary.
You can just pick whatever you want.
It's great.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I do appreciate that nobody's quite like...
All of the enthusiasm is coming from people who really were miserable about the idea of defending Joe Biden after every one of these fucking clips.
That's where all the enthusiasm is coming from.
dan friesen
That's where a lot of relief comes from.
jordan holmes
You're not going to attack people with clips of Biden and have them go like, oh no, they're all going to be like, yeah!
dan friesen
Fuck that guy!
jordan holmes
Everybody wants him gone.
dan friesen
But even if you're not, you're gonna see that clip and be like, oh yeah, you misspoke.
Who cares?
He has a hundred fucking times.
jordan holmes
Who cares?
unidentified
He's a million years old.
dan friesen
This was the whole thing.
jordan holmes
He's a million years old.
We all had our hands tied behind our back and we got him and now we got rid of him.
We don't care.
We don't care.
dan friesen
This is not a secret revelation of some sort of nefarious plot.
jordan holmes
We all knew he was plumping.
We all knew he was plumping.
We were all telling you.
dan friesen
Ten bags.
You remember on our last episode, someone called in and challenged Alex's masculinity?
jordan holmes
Yes, I do.
dan friesen
This is still bothering him.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
alex jones
So, when you're conscious, you just see their moves.
When you're not, you're like, oh, well, there's going to be a hack attack.
Don't worry, the votes has integrity, but the system that makes sure it has integrity, it's going to be shut down.
Ah, and then when that happens, oh, the FBI is so smart.
Man, they predicted exactly what happened.
How do they know they're so smart?
I think we're stupid, folks.
We're just dialed in and dialed up.
You see it all.
And the proof is all the predictions we make basically come true.
Almost all of them.
Except the ones we make that stop them.
dan friesen
Oh.
alex jones
That's the real goal here.
dan friesen
That's magic.
alex jones
Not sit back and say, see, I told you so.
To warn you what's coming and we get awake and we say no and we're watching and we're taking action legally and lawfully and we stop them.
But the caller called in yesterday and goes, you always see legal and lawful.
You're a wimp.
You don't want violence.
And I said, okay, who do we kill?
Oh, click.
Head call.
Click.
unidentified
Boop.
jordan holmes
Our producer hung up on him.
alex jones
If I thought violence was the answer, under the Declaration of Independence, we've been attacked with the poison shots, all of it.
Yeah, sure, we have it right in the law and common sense to defend ourselves.
But you're going to choose the targets?
You're going to launch in this big complex society this thing?
The Pentagon will tell you.
They're right.
They said 20 years ago, today it's even more.
90% of war is information.
That's why I named it InfoWars.
27 years ago, I started the website.
30 plus years.
jordan holmes
Wait, is that why?
alex jones
So I'm doing the war here, okay?
This is the war.
We use the truth and integrity.
It's the ace of spades.
They use lies.
They're little joker cards.
They got unlimited joker cards.
They just shoot joker cards at us all day.
It's like a Gatling gun, a joker card.
Of just BS.
But when you got the Ace of Spades, you go, the Ace of Spades, the Ace of Spades.
The only God I need is the Ace of Spades.
jordan holmes
You think Lemmy is a Trump guy?
alex jones
My God.
But I'm quoting a great song.
That we should go out to break with Ace of Spades from the start.
Two minutes of Ace of Spades.
With Lemmy.
Hell yeah.
A fusion of blues and hard rock.
It's amazing.
So.
dan friesen
So.
All right.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I got lost a little bit in there.
I think Alex needs to maybe cool out a little bit about his bruised ego.
jordan holmes
Could be a little bit.
dan friesen
If I were that caller and I was still listening, I would be laughing my ass off.
jordan holmes
Oh, I mean, yeah.
He's bothered about this the next day.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
He might as well be in the bathroom crying.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I'm not bad.
I'm a big boy.
jordan holmes
I think Alex brings up such a great, weird point that is kind of the problem with everything that they all believe, right?
Is that prophecy does need to happen.
dan friesen
Well, unless the prophecy is fulfilled by something not happening.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
But see, that's the problem.
The prophecy either happens or you don't have a Bible.
You know what I'm saying?
Jesus has to die.
He can't not die.
You can't be like, hey, we saved him and then still have the same Bible.
dan friesen
Well, maybe you could.
I suggest to you that everyone has literally been right about everything.
As long as the times that they're wrong are times that they stopped the right thing from happening.
So everyone is 100% batting average if they allow themselves the loosest fucking standards, which Alex does for himself.
jordan holmes
That is...
I worry that that is also a way of life that some therapist somewhere might be like, and now you're finally fully actualized.
You know you can...
unidentified
See?
dan friesen
I think it's more in line with the people who are doomsday prophets who then are like, I got the math wrong.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Or whatever.
Sure.
I've been right about the end of the world every time except for the times that I've stopped it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, but that's got to be all the times.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Or as the world ended.
dan friesen
I'm really good at it.
jordan holmes
That would be such a weird...
Oh, man.
dan friesen
We know that that's what Alex thinks, though.
I mean, it's just weird to hear it said.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is weird.
It is weird whenever somebody's like, no, seriously.
I understand when people say, the TV is not listening to me.
But that's because the TV's listening to me when I tell them to tell other people to tell them that the TV's not listening to them!
dan friesen
The TV told me to be cool about how no one believes I'm talking to them.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
Okay, fine.
dan friesen
Also, the Ace of Spades does not fucking matter if you're playing against somebody who has a machine gun full of jokers.
Because you're no longer playing a card game.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
The Ace of Spades holds no use.
jordan holmes
Well, and Spades is not the universal Trump.
So there are plenty of card games that have an alternating Trump suit.
You know, you can play hearts.
The ace of spades isn't going to do shit for you in hearts.
dan friesen
Jokers are wild.
jordan holmes
Well, fair enough.
dan friesen
So Alex plays a clip here of Tim Walls, which is supposedly supposed to prove his stolen valor.
jordan holmes
He's done.
dan friesen
He's cooked.
jordan holmes
He's done.
unidentified
What's your background, and how did somebody from Nebraska end up in Minnesota?
Yeah, well, my wife's from Minnesota, so she took me there.
jordan holmes
Complicated story.
unidentified
The educational system in Minnesota was one that we kind of aspired to teach in, so I ended up in southern Minnesota.
My wife's been...
There for many generations.
jordan holmes
And your military background?
unidentified
I spent 24 years in the National Guard, some of that full-time.
I was an artilleryman.
I deployed in support of Operation Enduring Freedom.
tim walz
My battalion provided base security throughout the European theater from Turkey to England in the early stages of the war in Afghanistan.
unidentified
And that same battalion is now in Iraq at this time.
jordan holmes
Next call, Lotton, Oklahoma, for Congressman Tim Walls.
unidentified
Good morning.
dan friesen
This is supposed to be like the smoking gun, nail-in-the-coffin, stolen valor shit.
But that clip's just true.
In 2003, Walls deployed for active duty in Italy, securing Air Force bases as part of the war in Afghanistan.
He didn't say that he was in the shit, or that he saw combat in Afghanistan, just that he deployed to Europe to provide base security as part of the war.
There's no gotcha in this clip.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I'm listening to it, and I don't understand what Alex is using this for.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
And, I mean, I get if we're in, like, sword fighting times, I get the idea of being like, oh, well, he wasn't deployed in the actual fighting theater.
And it's like, man, we live in internet times.
It doesn't matter where you're at.
You are probably having a pretty significant impact on everything.
dan friesen
Well, if in that clip he said, like, I was...
Running and gunning on the streets of Kabul or something like that.
jordan holmes
Then we're in a different story.
dan friesen
Okay, you're lying.
You're not telling the truth.
He accurately described his service.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was doing the thing.
dan friesen
So Alex playing this has some sort of proof of he's lying.
It doesn't work.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
But that does not stop Alex from obsessing about this clip.
jordan holmes
That helps.
dan friesen
It's insane.
alex jones
But let's go back to the video of him on C-SPAN.
Because the crew pointed this out in my ear when we were playing it.
And I thought that too when I saw it last night.
There's the big tell when he talks about his unit was in combat and that was his service.
He gulps and kind of does the tell of, like if I said, you know, I beat Mike Tyson one time in arm wrestling.
I beat Mike Tyson arm wrestling contest.
No, I didn't.
Rip my arm off.
unidentified
So...
alex jones
Again, this is—or I beat Mike Tyson.
I beat Mike Tyson.
He was 20 years old in his prime.
Yeah.
Go ahead and roll the video again.
I mean, look at this face of a liar.
Play it.
unidentified
There for many generations.
jordan holmes
And your military background?
tim walz
I spent 24 years in the National Guard, some of that full-time.
alex jones
I was an artilleryman.
unidentified
I deployed in support of Operation Enduring Freedom my battalion provided.
alex jones
There for many generations.
jordan holmes
And your military background?
tim walz
I spent 24 years in the National Guard, some of that full-time.
alex jones
I was an artilleryman.
unidentified
I deployed in support of Operation Enduring Freedom my battalion provided.
alex jones
Yeah, play it again.
This is there for many generations.
jordan holmes
And your military background?
alex jones
I spent 24 years in the National Guard, some of that full-time.
I was an artilleryman.
unidentified
I deployed in support of Operation Enduring Freedom my battalion provided.
alex jones
Now, play it through without the...
Play the clip through.
unidentified
Play the clip through.
alex jones
Go ahead and play it.
You gotta love our computers.
We have like $70,000 computers, which are great, but you gotta pay $500,000 for one that doesn't do this.
If I ever get plenty of money around here, we're gonna get the big, fancy, super badass systems that don't do this.
But it's okay.
It's ready now.
Here it is.
Play it.
unidentified
What's your background, and how did somebody from Nebraska end up in Minnesota?
alex jones
Yeah, well, my wife's from Minnesota, so she took me there.
tim walz
Actually, it was based on...
unidentified
The educational system in Minnesota was one that we kind of aspired to teach in, so I ended up in southern Minnesota.
My wife's been there for many generations.
jordan holmes
And your military background?
tim walz
I spent 24 years in the National Guard, some of that full-time.
alex jones
I was an artilleryman.
I deployed in support of Operation Enduring Freedom.
tim walz
My battalion provided base security throughout the European theater from Turkey to England in the early stages of the war in Afghanistan.
alex jones
And that same battalion is now in Iraq at this time.
unidentified
Next call, Lotton, Oklahoma.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
alex jones
I mean, if they put him on the stage with J.D. Vance, who is an admitted decorated Marine combat veteran.
dan friesen
Look, I don't mean to impugn his service at all, but J.D. Vance also never saw combat.
He was in the Marines for four years in public affairs.
I feel like we have a bit of an underlying thing in our country where sacrifice for the public good is just something that we all give a nod to and respect.
Whether or not...
You know, I think you can have problems with the wars and all of that, but just as a way of being polite, we all just kind of say, huzzah.
We can disagree that the wars or even military itself is in the public good, all of that.
But it becomes tacky to shit on individuals who make a choice to enlist, because a lot of the time they do that in service of the country, in interest of serving their fellow citizens.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I mean, it's just kind of, meh.
I feel like it's kind of shitty.
It feels like a dead end for Alex and all these folks attacking walls like this.
There's a reason that swift boating worked against John Kerry, and that's because he actively protested the Vietnam War after he returned, which many in the service saw as an affront.
He testified before the Senate in 1971 about horrific war crimes that were being committed by U.S. soldiers, and because of this animosity that existed in his post-service career, there was a wedge that the GOP was able to exploit between veterans and Kerry.
Walls doesn't have this same dynamic, and trying to run that same script against him...
Seems destined to backfire.
Like, Alex is playing this clip and desperately trying to make it fit the frame that he set it up for, but it just kind of looks like shit.
Just looks stupid.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Well, I mean, you're never going to win an election if you point out how many war crimes we commit.
If in your past you were like, oh, America's committing all those war crimes and I'm going to tell them, you're not going to be president.
dan friesen
In 1971.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I wouldn't try it.
I'm not going to be president.
dan friesen
But you understand that that kind of context is really what helped the Swift Boat veterans for truth and stuff have a little bit of traction.
That's a really important part of the equation that's missing here.
And these clips are uncompelling.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, I would say also that during the Swift boat, it was a lot easier.
Here's what I do.
I will throw this out at you.
It was 2004.
So everybody was still on the, like, we're probably not evil.
Right?
Now it's 20 years later.
You're evil.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
The end.
So it's like...
dan friesen
The Iraq war had not fully drained everybody.
jordan holmes
People were still thinking...
We might be the good guy.
We might bring stuff, you know?
We might have order and there might be democracy and stuff.
Like, hey, maybe there weren't.
Maybe there were.
But, you know, Hussein's gone.
Let's do the whole thing, you know?
Now we're the bad guys.
We're just evil.
dan friesen
The internet wasn't what it was then, too.
And so, like, a lot of memes and sort of...
PR campaigns had a little bit of a different vibe to them than they do now.
There's a little bit of a freshness to this kind of a smear in 2004.
jordan holmes
It's the monoculture.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
This isn't going to stick.
jordan holmes
It's just not.
dan friesen
So Alex has a guest on the show.
He's a very important guest.
Sure.
This person is a theologian.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
But he's also Alex's gold sponsor.
jordan holmes
Hooray!
alex jones
Tommy Robbins joining us with huge big developments.
Where they're openly saying they're going to arrest anybody that shows the Muslims rioting and engaging in crime.
There is no law that says that.
They are just desperate.
This is wild.
And so much more today.
But I wanted to get Dr. Kirk Elliott, who's an amazing economist, degreed economist, and degreed theologian.
I've known him for 25 years, and I don't know what was wrong with me.
Not having a gold or silver sponsor for 12 years because I couldn't find one that wouldn't give people a good deal.
unidentified
Didn't give me a good deal.
dan friesen
Come on, man.
Come on.
My gold sponsor slash theologian.
jordan holmes
When I was choosing gold sponsors, I was thinking about the deal they were giving my customers.
Definitely not the deal they were giving to me, specifically.
dan friesen
The precedent that was set by the great deals that Ted Anderson got his license revoked for offering customers.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It really set the bar high.
Go fuck yourself.
So anyway, Kirk is on.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And he's here to sell gold, obviously.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But I felt like while I was listening to him, there was a drop in confidence.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Sure, so let's talk about this.
Let's go back to that graph then that you were saying two times in the past has happened, gold exploded.
Explain that to me.
kirk elliott
So there's this technical level, right?
It's the S-T-O-C-H-R-S-I.
Basically, I don't know what that acronym stands for, but it's what technical traders look at.
Well, it has to do with not just supply and demand, but how much people are purchasing, what's available, all this stuff, right?
unidentified
So once it hits that level...
kirk elliott
In the past, once it's hit that level, gold bumped up 450% after that.
The time before, it bumped up 1800% after that.
unidentified
And you know what, Alex?
dan friesen
We're at that level.
kirk elliott
So we can't ever make guarantees, right?
dan friesen
We're not God.
kirk elliott
We don't control the markets.
But these technical patterns tend to repeat themselves.
unidentified
And this is where...
alex jones
Well, they don't tend to repeat.
I mean, history repeats and rhymes.
It happens a little different, but it matches basically the tempo.
dan friesen
It does.
So if I were listening to this gold guy and he rattled off this acronym and then just said, I don't know what it stands for.
jordan holmes
That's a problem.
dan friesen
I might have doubts that start to creep in.
jordan holmes
It's a real problem.
dan friesen
I don't know if he knows what's up.
jordan holmes
That's a problem.
dan friesen
So this actually isn't an acronym.
It's an abbreviation for Stochastic RSI, with RSI standing for Relative Strength Index.
This is an equation the traders use to try and find signals that a particular thing is over or underbought, thereby finding opportunities to make long or short buys on these things.
It's not a magic indicator, and it's notoriously volatile, which is why people tend not to rely on it as a single indicator and use it solely for their guidance.
Right.
He's just trying to throw out deep-sounding...
Financial things.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But also having to admit I don't know what this thing is.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Or what it stands for.
jordan holmes
The more you spend time listening to a totality of these people talk about the stock market, the more you're like, you guys are throwing bones in a turtle shell.
That's what you're doing.
You're just throwing bones.
And you're lying to me about it.
You're like, oh, these three bones look like this.
Now, fuck you.
Fuck you with your RSI bullshit.
dan friesen
Using a lot of words.
jordan holmes
Throwing bones.
You're throwing bones in a turtle shell.
Shut up.
dan friesen
Now, I don't know what these bones stand for.
jordan holmes
I'll tell you.
Stochastic.
dan friesen
So, uh, you're dumb as shit.
That's true.
If you don't buy gold from Kirk, you're dumb.
You're fucking dumb.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
You get the best deals.
It supports the show.
KUPM.com forward slash gold.
Tell them all the show and send you.
720-605-3900.
They make 8%.
You can sell it back for nothing.
And that goes into their marketing, their crew, everybody, their sponsorship, everything.
They made the decision 25 years ago to have very small margins, but to have the biggest audience, and they've done it.
The place to go is Dr. Kirk Elliott at KEPM.com forward slash gold or 720-605-2900.
That's 720-605-3900.
Dr. Kirk Elliott, thank you so much.
God bless you.
We'll talk to you soon.
unidentified
God bless.
See you, Alex.
alex jones
Call him right now, folks, or you're stupid.
dan friesen
You're stupid.
That's harsh.
jordan holmes
Man.
dan friesen
That's real mean.
Thing for Alex to say as a sales pitch.
So, Kirk Elliott's alleged model is that you pay him an extra 8% on top of what you buy, and then when you want to resell your gold, there's no additional fee.
That's fine in theory, but I'm being very generous when I pretend to believe that there aren't other hidden fees in the background somewhere.
jordan holmes
Very generous.
dan friesen
Even assuming that this is all straight up and these are the only expenses, you still need to see an 8% increase in the price of gold to break even with what you bought from Kirk.
Right now, as I was prepping this episode, gold...
Gold was at $2,431 per ounce.
In order to get your money back from Kirk, you need to resell it to him when it's $2,625 per ounce.
That's a fine gamble if you want to make it, but gold has never hit that value.
On Wednesday, the price of gold took a dip, and it hit $2,384 an ounce.
If you bought an ounce from Kirk on that dip, then you would have to have paid him $2,578 for it.
Even if you sell that back to him now, after the bounce has already recovered, you're down $143.
If you get really lucky and you time it right, and he doesn't have a bunch of hidden fees, then you can theoretically fleece this guy pretty good.
But most of the time, he's going to come out ahead with that 8%.
And that's the game.
You're almost never going to end up ahead at this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, the thing that I think I find most fascinating is, like, phone numbers only exist for scams and medical bills?
Is that what I understand in 2024?
When was the last time you had an actual phone call that wasn't about a scam or some sort of bill?
dan friesen
My parents, maybe?
jordan holmes
Right?
But even then, that's because they're the only people who get scammed and pay bills!
dan friesen
Their texts go to phone numbers.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
But you don't need it.
jordan holmes
Right, it's the phone number thing.
If somebody gives me their phone number, this is a scam.
You're scamming me.
Because if you need to be able to talk to me, then that means you need some sort of social engineering aspect to sell me on Sunday.
dan friesen
Oh yeah, definitely.
And this is sold on the way of like, no, we want to talk to you and get to know what your needs are that gold can fill.
jordan holmes
There are no needs that I need to give you 8% VIG for.
dan friesen
Look.
There's no price.
There's no extra money when you sell it back.
jordan holmes
You can't put a price on peace of mind.
That's what the real thing is.
dan friesen
This is insurance you can eat.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So Tommy Robbins, or Tommy Robinson, is back on.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He ends up getting a call in the middle of the interview and has to leave.
But before he does, he whines a bunch.
alex jones
Yeah.
tommy robinson
One man just got sentenced today, an English man.
He's near enough a pensioner, 59 years old.
He just got 26 months in jail for shouting aggressively at police.
I kid you not.
Shouting.
26 months for shouting at police.
Ask the question again.
Where was the equivalent for the Romanians and Muslims that rioted?
Where are the equivalent?
dan friesen
So there are actually two people who were arrested and sentenced to 26 months in the incident that Tommy is talking about.
Stephen Malin and Ryan Shears were both wasted on the street when they decided to join a mob that was targeting migrant homes.
They were both yelling at the cops, and there was a standoff, and a police bit Shears pulling down his pants.
Malin then tried to attack the dog, which led the officers trying to detain him, at which point he started kicking the officers.
There were at least three other people arrested as part of this violence that broke out in Hartlepool, including two people for throwing shit at the police and an 18-year-old dude who was busting out windows.
It's okay.
Everyone else is doing it.
Tommy is lying about the circumstances of this arrest because his goal is to portray the situation as one where the government is out to get the poor victimized white people while giving a pass to the Muslims who are gleefully running amok and killing white people all over the place.
By creating this image, Tommy is trying to create justification for mob violence, like what happened in Hartlepool to break out, where people, particularly white people, feel like the only thing they can do to fight for their survival is to terrorize migrants.
Tommy's job is to make these people feel like they're not just acting out their violent racist impulses, or at a minimum, that those violent racist impulses are justified.
That's why that crowd in Hartlepool was, quote, shouting racial slurs and the word Tommy while they threw bottles and planks at the cops, according to the BBC.
As he explained himself, Tommy's job is to throw petrol on the fire, to stoke the embers of racism in this audience, then portray anyone who acts on those impulses as a victim in order to continue throwing petrol on the fire.
That's what he's doing.
And Alex is gleefully and very consciously helping.
I mean, it's going great for him.
jordan holmes
If I was him, I would honestly be stoked at everything that's going on right now.
He is crushing it.
dan friesen
Yeah, if he has his monetization in place, then he's probably killing it.
jordan holmes
Listen, hey, at the end of the day...
Good business is good business.
This is America.
dan friesen
So they complain a little bit more because that's the game.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
tommy robinson
What we saw yesterday, Alex, was a Labour, our government, Keir Starmer, two-tier Keir, one of his councillors stood on the streets and said, we need to split all of the far-right streets.
alex jones
And by the way, we're going to pull that clip up.
His name is Jones.
I'm actually saying my name now.
His name is Jones, a council, city council member, saying kill and murder and slit the throats, and they're just randomly running into pubs and beating up white people.
We have the videos.
tommy robinson
And they're all cheering.
They're all cheering as he's doing it.
And this is the Labor government.
We actually, what people need to understand is we live under communism.
People just don't realize it yet.
We're already there.
We're not heading towards communism.
We're there.
Already.
We've got people getting 26 months for shouting at the police.
We've got a total two-tier judiciary, two-tier policing system.
I'll let you play his voice.
But he calls for the murder.
He calls for the murder of people.
alex jones
Since you mention it, let's play the clip with audio.
Here it is.
tommy robinson
Yeah, please.
unidentified
We've got children and women using those trains.
They are disgusting, nasty facts and we need to cut all their ropes and get rid of the world.
I just want to say thank you all.
I'm going to leave it now.
Free, free, Palestine.
alex jones
So, Tommy, if you said go slit brown people's throats, you're not even against.
You would be thrown in prison for life.
Here's a member of a major city council saying, go out and kill the English Defense League that hasn't existed in 10 years and was multiracial.
They're literally running around.
I can't even watch them all.
I have like dozens on my list here of them beating.
They'll just find a white person and beat their brains out.
dan friesen
Oh, wow.
So they're saying that this guy, Ricky Jones, should be arrested for saying that far-right Nazi fascists should have their throats slit.
He was almost immediately suspended from his position as counselor.
Reps from the Labor Party denounced his actions, and then he was arrested.
This dude was arrested.
Exactly what they wanted to happen happened.
I think that what happened makes a lot of sense.
The UK doesn't have the same free speech laws as we do, and his comments were pretty out of line, so I don't think it's that big of a deal that he ended up getting arrested.
I'm not sure how Alex and Tommy as free speech absolutists justify that, though.
I get that they would want to see this guy not being arrested and then use that as some kind of proof that there's a two-tiered justice system where he can get away with this, but he keeps getting in trouble for his clear incitement.
That's just playing a good aggrievement game.
I get in trouble for this, but he doesn't because the world hates white people.
The problem is that the dude was arrested, which entirely deflates this talking point.
Tommy's just a whiny fucking asshole.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway.
He's on vacation, and I hope he's having a great time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
It reminds me of, this is a weird story, and I'm not going to put his business out too much, but my older brother, he's got a kid, right?
And he's just now finding out about new math.
People talking about new math.
And I'm just now finding out because I don't have kids, and I never really paid attention to any math.
So he's going off on blah, blah, blah, right?
Now, my...
Little sister, she's got a husband, math teacher.
So they're talking, right?
And eventually it gets to this point where it realized my older brother does not know what new math really is, right?
So the math teacher starts explaining it.
That's how my older brother has been doing math before.
dan friesen
It's just been rebranded as new Mac.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
He had been doing this because it made more sense for him to do it at the beginning than the way they were teaching it.
And so now the system is actually teaching it more like what he thought that it should be taught.
And so this whole mess of thoughts inside of his head was coming about.
And then it all hit.
And then he was like, oh, well, then it's not a problem.
dan friesen
Right.
The problem is what you're projecting onto it.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
If you're this, if this is what you want, then being arrested, then you have to be like, oh, okay.
dan friesen
Next.
But you don't want that.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
That's where...
dan friesen
You want this person not getting arrested to be the double standard that, like, so I should be fine.
jordan holmes
Right.
If my older brother then immediately went, well, they should teach the old way so I can bitch about it.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, then you're like, well, then we're wasting...
Everybody's wasting their time.
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
And that's what Tommy's doing.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Except with hate.
unidentified
With hate.
dan friesen
Instead of math.
jordan holmes
Instead of...
But if it was just...
Like, it was so great to see, too, because my older brother was just...
Really?
Well, that's good news!
It was nuts!
dan friesen
They figured out a better way to do this!
jordan holmes
They figured it out!
Yeah, it was awesome!
dan friesen
So something that's not awesome is Laura Logan.
She is on.
We talked about her a little bit in the past.
She used to be a real reporter, and now it's not.
So she hosts the show on Friday, and Alex has her on this episode.
And she seems a little bit dumb about what's going on in the UK and stuff.
alex jones
You want to start with what's happening in the UK?
I know you've been following that in depth.
lara logan
Well, what's incredible to me, the one thing I've been posting, trying to get people to understand, is when you're having the same conversation in the United Kingdom and the exact same issues happening, that tells you that the policy behind it is exactly the same, right?
The people behind it are exactly the same.
And to see people being arrested because of what they're posting on social media...
It's so blatant what's happening in the UK.
I mean, you know, in the old days, you might have looked at somebody like Tommy Robinson and thought, OK, well, do I want to post this person because I don't want to be accused of being far right?
And now you see, wait a minute, this is ridiculous.
They are literally attacking and arresting the people who are standing up, who are saying, hey, we have a problem in this country.
You know, young girls in a dance class were murdered, hacked to death.
And the media is being dishonest about how they're reporting this, how leaders are being dishonest.
I mean, people have had it, Alex.
You know this.
alex jones
And they're blaming the journalist, Tommy.
dan friesen
Tommy!
No, don't blame Tommy!
jordan holmes
Blaming the journalist, Tommy.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So when you see the same types of narratives being spread in countries with wildly different situations and political realities, maybe it's not a sign that a single shadowy group runs the world, but that xenophobic race-baiting propaganda is an effective tool, not just in the United States.
No one, including the media, is trying to say that the children killed in that dance class is no big deal or that it doesn't represent a problem that society needs to address.
The problem is that Tommy Robinson and his ilk immediately started using the story as a means of attacking immigrants because that's what they do.
This tragic incident isn't being handled realistically by these folks.
They're just trying to redirect the public's understandable outrage about it and use it to incite anger towards migrants.
And that's what people have a problem with.
If anyone is using this event maliciously, it's people like Tommy and Laura.
It's very clear now that the perpetrator was born in Wales and lived in the UK his whole life, and they know that.
They continue on this false path that they're on because the fictional story of this young migrant killing white children, it's too powerful.
Yeah.
When people in the UK are getting arrested for posting stuff on social media, like Laura's talking about, it's generally direct incitement towards racially motivated violence, like calls to burn down migrant housing, or very clear-cut misinformation about that dance class murderer that's being used to incite violence towards migrants.
Like people misidentifying him, which is illegal.
Shit like that.
These people like Alex and Laura know what they're doing.
They're running cover for folks like Tommy because they want to help him pour petrol on the fire.
I don't know what they're doing.
This is fucking stupid.
So anyway, I was bored with Laura.
I don't care.
She does not intrigue me much.
jordan holmes
Nothing to say, really.
dan friesen
And then she said something in this clip that I wanted to know more about.
lara logan
But if you want to know why the southern border is open, well, look at the Open Society Foundation.
That's why, because we have open border ideologues inside the administration.
And not only that, at the United Nations, they signed a global compact.
On migration.
They made migration a human right.
And so what they said is it can't be illegal if you're exercising your human right.
And so that is why the Biden administration, as soon as they took office, said no one's allowed to use the word illegal anymore when it comes to immigration.
alex jones
And then we all do it and say migrant.
Exactly.
lara logan
Because now you are looking at the globalist policy on migration that has been implemented in your country.
You didn't get a chance to vote on it.
They bypassed the legislature.
They bypassed Congress.
I mean, they bypass the people.
alex jones
And they bring in groups they control.
lara logan
Well, you know, let's see how they control them, because the groups that they're bringing in, I mean, I'll tell you, Alex, about some of the things that I...
alex jones
I was about to say, that's the...
You know about Islamists, even all over the world, famously attacked by them, without getting into detail.
I mean, they're really...
made a mistake here.
lara logan
Well, I don't know what you mean by "made a mistake" precisely.
alex jones
Well, you're saying the globalists think they can control these Islamic hordes.
I was reading into what you're saying.
You think they're gonna bite 'em in the ass?
lara logan
Well, the Arabs have a saying, actually, that when you let a snake into your garden, eventually it makes its way into your house.
And we've seen that happen all over the world, right?
You know, what's interesting, though, Alex, is I know a gentleman who infiltrated the global cult.
And the part of the global cult, he did this on behalf of the United States government.
He spent years in training underground.
But he was assigned to the Islamic faction.
So I think one of the things that I always try to remember here, when I think about him and the work that he did, is that this is a global cult.
alex jones
Islam's only one arm.
lara logan
But there is an Islamist faction.
dan friesen
So you know who that is?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Frank Dukes.
jordan holmes
You're joking.
dan friesen
Yes, I am joking.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
jordan holmes
Of course I'm joking.
No, but here's the problem.
Here's the problem.
I could totally believe he rebranded later on as the guy who was like, yeah, I infiltrated the Islamic State.
Of course I did.
I'm Frank fucking Dukes.
It's not crazy enough.
dan friesen
Kumite to global cult.
jordan holmes
But that's the type of thing he would do.
dan friesen
I was sent to the Muslim wing.
jordan holmes
Because it's not like he was a pillar of the Kubite was real before.
dan friesen
No, I mean, this is just a kind of Bloodsport-esque story that she's telling.
It's a lot of fun.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
Come on, go fuck yourself.
jordan holmes
It would be great if it was Frank Dears.
dan friesen
So this story is something that Laura has been claiming since 2022, and it's a remnant of her QAnon roots.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
She went on Eric Bolling's show on Newsmax and claimed to know this person who had infiltrated the cabal.
and was totally legit.
Totally.
unidentified
Just as a quick refresher on her career, Laura used to be a normal journalist but got in trouble for reporting a story based on bad sources around Benghazi in 2013.
dan friesen
She was employed by CBS at the time and wasn't fired, but was kind of moved to the back bench probably because her work wasn't good.
Then she went to work for Fox News who fired her after she compared Fauci to Joseph Mengele, which pretty much closed the door for her being hired by any actual company, but made her a darling of the right-wing media She likes to just talk shit like Alex, so she's kind of a hero for them.
In her interview with Eric Bolling, where she revealed this totally not fake global cult whistleblower, she also said that the UN was bringing in immigrants to, quote, dilute the pool of patriots, and that folks like Yuval Noah Harari and the WEF want us to eat the bugs while they, quote, dine on the blood of children.
None of this was well received, and she was promptly banned from being interviewed on fucking Newsmax, who told the Daily Beast, quote, Newsmax condemns in the strongest terms the reprehensible statements made by Laura Logan.
We have no plans to interview her again.
Incidentally, Laura has never proved any of this shit about some idiot who infiltrated the global cabal that runs the world, and she mysteriously has the same gold sponsor slash theologian as Alex.
jordan holmes
That is weird.
dan friesen
That is weird.
jordan holmes
That is really coincidental.
dan friesen
That's very strange.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, one is a coincidence.
We'd need two more examples of far-right figures with a similar gold salesman to have a sort of pattern.
dan friesen
I think that you find maybe his name pops up in some weird QAnon places that are little...
jordan holmes
I am amazed because I do believe she has accomplished something that is, while not admirable, it is unique and requires something that I don't think the rest of us have, which is she has been banned from the three worst places that I can think of.
And still is not interesting.
She managed to be boring and banned from these places.
That's amazing.
dan friesen
It is pretty remarkable that you have sort of the small, medium, large CBS, Fox News, Newsmax.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And it's all like, no, you can't cut it here.
jordan holmes
No Goldilocks.
No Goldilocks here.
Nuh-uh.
You are not invited around these bears.
They will fucking murder you.
dan friesen
But you can still come on InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
That's fine.
There's no standards here.
jordan holmes
The desiccated husk of the fourth unholy bear forced to stay in the basement with no porridge at all.
dan friesen
It's the bear that's in the basement riding a unicycle drunk.
Clanking symbols together.
Oh, God.
So, rarely in life do you get to see someone literally embody a fallacy.
jordan holmes
That is rare.
dan friesen
But in this next clip, Laura Logan actually embodies...
jordan holmes
Just ease it, like in an encyclopedic definition way.
dan friesen
Yep.
lara logan
We have a serious problem in this country.
The picture that I've been investigating for the last couple years, Alex, started with the question, are the cartels really the army of the deep state and the globalists?
Is that what you're looking at?
Because at the end of the day, although the United States military has been decimated with this ideology...
I don't believe that most Americans who will put on a uniform in the service of this country will ever go to war against their own country.
alex jones
And that's why Pelosi called MS-13 God's children.
lara logan
And that's why you need to have the cartels as your real army.
dan friesen
She is literally begging the question.
Laura is pretending to be investigating the question of if the cartels are the military for the globalists, and one of her premises that she uses to reach that conclusion is that the cartels are the military for the globalists.
This premise is unproven, it's just asserted, and much of this entire facade relies on you just accepting it because she said it.
This is not what a sincere investigator would do in this situation.
You wouldn't set out to answer the question, are the cartels the military for the globalists?
Because how would you ever satisfactorily prove they're not?
It's pretty easy to imagine a situation where you've proved that they are.
Like, I don't know, you find invoices between the globalists and the cartels that say something like, services rendered, being our military.
But there's no situation Laura is going to find herself in where she assesses the information available to her and says, well, I guess I was wrong.
The cartels aren't the globalist military.
This is a bullshit act.
It's super easy to see through.
And I don't know.
jordan holmes
There's a.
Okay, I'll say this.
There's really nothing you can do in this day and age with a creative writing degree.
Okay, so that's out the window.
Even if you're a published author, I know published authors now, and I know that there isn't even any money in publishing.
So there's no point in doing any of that, right?
Because she has done what is a great fiction writing tool.
What if, here's a question, what if, blank and blank, now I've got a prompt, now I write how this could happen, and now I've got a story.
dan friesen
Yeah, but that's called reporting.
jordan holmes
That's not reporting.
dan friesen
No, it's called being a journalist.
jordan holmes
No, that is what you get a creative writing degree for.
dan friesen
It's creative nonfiction.
jordan holmes
I don't believe in that.
dan friesen
I just, I can't hang.
I can't handle it.
jordan holmes
No, it's absolute trash.
dan friesen
It's infuriating, and so her big story that she has to break is that there were 70,000 terrorists that graduated from terrorist school, and they're all here now.
jordan holmes
Sometimes it really does feel like if you had a brigade of people with, like, straws and, like, wet...
Stuff and just spit it at her whenever she said stuff like that.
It'd be fine.
She'd be like, I'm sorry, you're right.
I'm covered in spitballs right now.
I clearly fucked up.
dan friesen
This is your bullying coming out.
jordan holmes
I mean, clearly everybody's fine with it now.
Everybody feels like it works.
dan friesen
I'm more interested in...
I listen to her, and my mind...
Just, I see a podium.
On a stage.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And terrorists are coming over and getting a diploma.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
From graduating terrorist school.
jordan holmes
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed!
dan friesen
You get a diploma, but it's booby-trapped.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Oh, that'd be fun.
No, you can't do that.
That's not good terrorism school.
dan friesen
No, it's a hat on a hat.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
That's my criticism of terrorism school.
Hat on a hat.
dan friesen
So I don't care about her breaking story based on some, I don't know, dumb nonsense.
Right.
But we have one more clip because I found this moment to be delightful.
alex jones
If they would have killed him, it would have been worse for them, actually.
I'm glad they didn't kill him, but the war game that...
jordan holmes
You are not glad.
alex jones
They're not even thinking second, third order.
They're thinking immediacy.
I think they're going to try again.
Laura Logan, what do you think?
lara logan
Well, I mean, the Secret Service has said they think they're going to try again, right?
I mean, a lot of very informed people are saying they're going to try again.
It certainly makes sense.
I mean, they're terrified of Trump.
They're absolutely terrified of him.
And he's not afraid of them anymore.
alex jones
And I know him well.
You know him well.
It's because he's real.
He makes mistakes, but he is the guy with Donald Trump.
Nobody's telling him what to do.
lara logan
You know, I've never met Trump.
alex jones
You've never met him?
lara logan
I've never met him.
alex jones
I saw folks in Mar-a-Lago, maybe they were fake or whatever.
lara logan
I know, I've been to Mar-a-Lago, but I never met Trump.
alex jones
No, Trump is behind the scenes, like, hanging out with a hillbilly or something.
He's completely straight up.
It's like, you feel totally comfortable.
He's real.
dan friesen
He's real, man.
I just like the moment of, you know, I'm good friends with him, you're good friends with him.
I never met the guy.
Oh.
Look, let me tell you, he's cool.
He's like hanging out with a hillbilly.
jordan holmes
You know, it is always fascinating whenever the basic precept of yes and seems like the only one you should really have in this world, and it's uncommon.
dan friesen
It's strange that she doesn't just roll along with Alex's very clear fake reality.
jordan holmes
Everything!
Just yes and it!
Who cares?
If you haven't blanked, you don't have an infiltrator in the Islamic cabal!
dan friesen
No, it's a global cabal, just in the Islamic division.
jordan holmes
I was third place in the 70kg Islamic division.
I was pretty good at weightlifting for a while.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that there's a lot of value to just get going along with it.
Just roll with this.
jordan holmes
Fuck yeah, he's a great guy.
The end.
dan friesen
But there's also something really fascinating about not.
Because there isn't a real, like, there's no gain by correcting Alex.
There's no loss either.
jordan holmes
It's the self-image of the person.
The self-image of the person says, I have to say I have or have not met this person.
dan friesen
I disagree.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I think it's more rooted in, I think she might have some illusion that Alex isn't full of shit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Okay, so you think it's her image of Alex that is keeping her honest.
dan friesen
I think that she might think that Alex actually is close with Trump and that he's got information wrong about her.
She doesn't realize that he's making all of it up.
unidentified
Interesting.
dan friesen
And we're all just bullshitting here.
jordan holmes
That is fascinating.
I had not considered that.
It had never really occurred to me.
That she would not be 100% aware of what was going on.
dan friesen
Well, she very clearly plays fast and loose with the truth.
jordan holmes
Obviously.
dan friesen
So, like, I can't imagine her being a stickler for...
jordan holmes
I mean, at a certain point, she has to believe that she is an honest person somewhere.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Which is crazy.
dan friesen
And I think that it's much more likely, in my mind, that it's based on, like, this image that she has of Alex.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
Because if it was like a lib, she would have no compunction lying to them.
Fuck the libs, or whatever.
dan friesen
Maybe.
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
Or, I don't know.
Who cares?
jordan holmes
I mean, sometimes it is like, that is the type of thing that I'm truly, that's the only thing left to really be fascinated by now.
In a certain way.
dan friesen
That little flicker.
jordan holmes
Why did you do that?
Everything else makes sense to me.
Everything else makes sense to me in the game.
Everything else makes sense to me in money.
Everything else makes sense to me in power.
And just the way you get to feel whenever you get to say bullshit and have people go, you're not stupid.
dan friesen
I've proved that the cartels are the globalists' army because the cartels are the globalists.
I get it.
I understand what you're doing here.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Why do you have to be precise about never meeting Trump?
jordan holmes
He's a nice guy.
You can say you've met people that you haven't met all the time and just be like, ah, they're nice.
Because it shortens the conversation that you don't want to have.
dan friesen
Maybe it's a situation where she thinks that Alex actually is close to Trump and is going to talk to Trump and be like, hey, I talked to Laura Logan, your best friend.
jordan holmes
And Trump's going to be like, I've never met that person.
dan friesen
Exactly.
And that would be socially uncomfortable.
jordan holmes
Oh my God.
dan friesen
Maybe that's it.
jordan holmes
It could be.
You know what?
Honestly, I think that would probably...
That's my highest probability at this point in time.
The idea of being caught out by an authority figure makes the most sense.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't want this to get back to Trump.
I'll look tacky like I was trying to play cool for Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it does make sense because deep down beneath all of this, they are just afraid of their dad getting angry with them.
dan friesen
Or high school dynamics.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's high school bullshit.
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Oh my God.
dan friesen
Laura hosted the show on Friday.
jordan holmes
Did she do a good job?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I didn't watch it.
jordan holmes
What could job even look like?
How do you even...
I don't even know.
dan friesen
I was going to say you don't leave, but Alex leaves fairly regularly, so you can just bail.
jordan holmes
And it's like, how could you guest host a show and not be like, this whole place should be gone by now?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Just getting all the duct tape holding everything together.
unidentified
Wild, yes!
dan friesen
This $70,000 computer system that doesn't work.
jordan holmes
None of this should be here.
dan friesen
Nope.
And we'll see if it is later.
unidentified
We'll see!
dan friesen
Because we'll be back for another episode.
But until that, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep.
We'll be back.
But until that, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I am the Mysterious Professor.
jordan holmes
Woo!
unidentified
Yeah!
Woo!
dan friesen
Yeah!
unidentified
Woo!
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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