#954: Not The Debate Of The Century
In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in to watch Alex respond with boredom and frustration to the much anticipated interview between Elon Musk and Donald Trump.
Aug. 16, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
02:05:52
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| It's time to pray. | ||
| I have great respect for knowledge fight. | ||
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Knowledge fight. | |
| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| Dan and Jordan. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| Need money. | ||
|
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Andy in Kansas. | |
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
|
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Thanks for holding me. | |
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your world. | ||
| Knowledge Fight. | ||
| KnowledgeFight.com I love you. | ||
| Oh man, I don't even know if... | ||
| It's so insane there's 40 seasons. | ||
| It is insane. | ||
| Of all the things to have 40 seasons of, to stop and really just sit there and be like, hey, do you remember when you were 17, a little bit high on Terrible Weed, and watching a bunch of weirdos in a Road Rules real-world challenge fight each other over really stupid stuff? | ||
| Doing weird carnival games back in the early days. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That's going to last forever, you would say to me. | ||
| And I go, yeah, you're right. | ||
| It totally will. | ||
| It's going to be awesome. | ||
| It's going to be as big as ever. | ||
| It's going to be huge. | ||
| And you know what else? | ||
| I'm also going to get old. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's strange, but I'm excited for it. | ||
| A lot of old people on it. | ||
| A lot of younger people on it. | ||
| Competing. | ||
| What fun. | ||
| Do we like young people or do we hate young people? | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| I don't know because the younger people that I've seen from the past recent shows have been from, like, Love Island or other reality shows. | ||
| And my wife knows who they are because she can watch reality shows and I am utterly incapable without throwing things. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So are these, like... | ||
| What are they? | ||
| Do people still call them fuckboys? | ||
| Is that what they're called? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know a lot of these shows. | ||
| I know some of the Survivor people that come over. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But other than that, no, I don't know. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We have to get to know them on the challenge. | ||
| Whatever they were on their original shows. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Right? | ||
| You need to know them as challengers. | ||
| True. | ||
| Because the challenge tests you. | ||
|
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True. | |
| It's America's fourth sport. | ||
| Or something. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| So it brings out something different in you. | ||
| Yeah, I suppose it does. | ||
| Like, for instance, I don't like Josh that much. | ||
| But did you know that he won his season of Big Brother? | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No! | ||
| How? | ||
| He won. | ||
| Don't you have to be liked by others? | ||
| It helps. | ||
| There's some strategy involved. | ||
| But anyway, what's your bright spot? | ||
| My bright spot is... | ||
| Oh, what was it? | ||
| Oh, I actually... | ||
| So... | ||
| I told you a while back that I had to quit smoking. | ||
| All smoke, all that stuff. | ||
| All smoke all time. | ||
| I'd become kind of allergic. | ||
| Whenever I smoked, even if it was just regular weed or whatever, my throat would constrict and I was actually beginning to like, oh, I'm going to die if I keep doing this. | ||
| Yeah, that's no good. | ||
| So I tried a bunch of other stuff. | ||
| I tried edibles. | ||
| I tried the terp vapes. | ||
| I tried all that stuff. | ||
| It's just trash. | ||
| Did you try a tincture? | ||
| I did! | ||
| Partially just because I was like, I know the word tincture and I have never actually used one, so let's give it a go. | ||
| Not great. | ||
| Your excitement really led me to think that this is the solution. | ||
| It was just the word tincture, which excites me. | ||
| And to this day, still does. | ||
| No, there was a dry flower vape. | ||
| That vaporizes like the old-timey volcano kind of things. | ||
| And I used to think that that was the only way you could do that. | ||
| And so you'd have to have a giant bag. | ||
| And I was like, I'm an old man. | ||
| I'm not going to do that. | ||
| I'll just quit. | ||
| They got one that's a little handheld. | ||
| Works perfectly. | ||
| A little tiny handheld volcano? | ||
| Handheld. | ||
| Doesn't make a bag smell. | ||
| Like, it's incredibly good. | ||
| And it works well. | ||
| That's the future, man. | ||
| I swear to you, it is in the future. | ||
| It made me ask if people still called other people fuckboys. | ||
| That's how in the future we are. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| Well, I'm glad for you finding something that works. | ||
| Positive. | ||
| But I still don't understand how edibles don't work. | ||
| If smoke is the problem. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It's not that they don't work. | ||
| It's like the definition of work. | ||
| It's like the definition of work is what I need it to do can be done in different chemical ways, I guess. | ||
| Time release. | ||
| All of this stuff requires all kinds of math of like, oh, well, if I do, and then maybe an hour later. | ||
| But, you know, whereas this is... | ||
| You should try freebasing a tincture. | ||
| I would if I... | ||
| I think you can. | ||
| It's just about believing in yourself. | ||
| Ah, that's possible. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| And I think it's going to be less painful than you think. | ||
| Okay! | ||
| That's surprising! | ||
| I think anybody who liked to gamble would have bet on our episode today covering Elon Musk interviewing Donald Trump. | ||
| That was pretty much what I was expecting. | ||
| And you'd be half right. | ||
| We're covering Alex covering that interview. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So Alex did a four-hour live stream. | ||
| Covering this. | ||
| And so we're going to talk about that. | ||
| And you would think that's going to be one of the worst things ever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's not as bad as you think. | ||
| And Alex gets drunk. | ||
| That sounds good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we'll make our way through this. | ||
| But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| That's a great idea. | ||
| So first, Nick Wright, thank you so much. | ||
| You and I are a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Thank you very much. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, this is Bill Jirasi. | ||
| I'm a member. | ||
| Support these guys in spite of what they do. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, I am not barrel fundus, and I am not associated with Udo News. | ||
| I simply review noodles and dumplings in Massachusetts. | ||
| Udon News. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Jordan's greatest jerk. | ||
| I forgot. | ||
| I forgot what it actually was supposed to be. | ||
| I was like, what is YouTube news? | ||
| Yeah, Daryl Rundis at his YouTube. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Next, Mama of Chicken. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And we have a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much, too. | ||
| Hey, John, apologies for any future lateness. | ||
| I threw out all my clocks because only God can tell me what time it is. | ||
| Yours in armchair psychology, Katie. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
|
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I'll honk your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | |
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
|
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He's a loser little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| So on Monday, Trump and Elon Musk decided they were going to get together and talk some shit. | ||
| What a good idea. | ||
| I think people have been clamoring for it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Elon Musk, one of the best interviewers in the business. | ||
| I've heard that. | ||
| Yeah, he really gets the truth out of people. | ||
| He's unassuming, kind of like that Louis Theroux vibe where you open up to him. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And then Donald Trump, one of the best extemporaneous interview subjects. | ||
| The two of them together, it's a powerhouse. | ||
| People were excited. | ||
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Yeah, I'm amazed that... | |
| Anyone listen to that. | ||
| Because everybody knew what they were going to get. | ||
| It's all your fault. | ||
| I think that some people looked at it in the same way you might a car crash. | ||
| And were looking for the disaster to happen. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Some people maybe were interested. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I can't imagine what sincere interest in this looked like. | ||
| But Alex decided we're going to fucking stream this thing. | ||
| We're going to get in there. | ||
| We're going to cover it. | ||
| We're going to do commentary. | ||
| I hate saying this, and I hate being this person. | ||
| I hope Chase is there? | ||
| You're going to be thrilled to learn that all the nights of the InfoWars roundtable are there. | ||
| We got Chase Geyser. | ||
| We got Harrison Smith. | ||
| We got Owen Troyer. | ||
| We don't have Alex for a bit. | ||
| Alex shows up late. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| So it starts off with just Chase and Harrison discussing how excited they are about this upcoming stream. | ||
| Well, one of the things that I really like about this that I was thinking about earlier was if this was a traditional television interview, it would be... | ||
| From 7 p.m. until 8 p.m. Central with commercial breaks or a hard end. | ||
| And I love how it's just open. | ||
| They're going to start talking at 7 p.m. and who knows how long they'll go for, right? | ||
| It's this long-form thing. | ||
| We haven't seen Donald Trump really in this context of just having a conversation with someone that's indefinite. | ||
| He's never done a Joe Rogan podcast or anything like that. | ||
| So to see him actually just hang out in a space for... | ||
| An indefinite amount of time is really exciting for me. | ||
| Well, and it's also, you know, Elon Musk is not a media personality. | ||
| He doesn't have talking points. | ||
| He's a corporatist, right? | ||
| He's a magnate. | ||
| But that'll be interesting as well. | ||
| I feel like people treat Elon sort of the same way that they treat Trump, where they act like he's just a celebrity for celebrity's sake. | ||
| But it's like, no, these guys are world famous. | ||
| Elon Musk is the richest man in the world. | ||
| I don't know where he stands now, but he's certainly in the top three. | ||
| So, Chase being excited about Trump talking long form without guardrails is a pretty be-careful-what-you-wish-for kind of situation. | ||
| I think Harrison is right, though, that people do look at Trump and Elon pretty similarly, in as much as they were pretty famous rich crypto-racists who have made their views a little too public, and now a large part of the population hates them, and they're too rich to ever really take criticism so they won't... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's just a rich asshole who's going to talk to another rich asshole. | ||
| Also, Elon is the richest person in the world, according to Forbes. | ||
| He feels like he shouldn't be, because his companies are falling apart and Twitter has eroded in value since he bought it, but it turns out, when you're rich enough, you can lose billions of dollars and get richer. | ||
| Incidentally, the correct conspiracy position for Infowars to be taken right now is to hate both of these dudes, since they're almost cartoonish versions of the very things Alex has been screaming about opposing for most of his career. | ||
| Musk is currently in the middle of trying to sue advertisers for not buying ads on Twitter after he brought back a bunch of Nazis, made the site a generally shitty place to spend time on, and then publicly told the advertisers to fuck off if they were unhappy about what he was doing. | ||
| The judge in that case turned out to own at least $15,000 of Tesla stock, so he had to recuse himself. | ||
| And you can make a pretty comfortable bet that the case will be promptly thrown out eventually, unlike the numerous cases that have popped up from the innocent people who Musk has directed harassment at, like... | ||
| Elon and Trump are the right kind of bigots. | ||
| So it makes sense for InfoWars to want to support them, but this is kind of 2D chess that they're playing. | ||
| They need to think about the long term and whether or not kissing the ass of billionaires is going to be an effective anti-establishment strategy. | ||
| Your brand is kind of hurt by being excited about billionaire media guy interviewing billionaire political guy. | ||
| Well, okay. | ||
| I mean, yes. | ||
| That would be a long-term strategy if they lose. | ||
| If they win, then there is only establishment media. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Or you're dead. | ||
| That's the idea there. | ||
| So you want to suck up to Elon and Trump if you think they're going to win. | ||
| I don't think that they're the types that if they win and they get the kind of power that you're imagining, that loyalty is going to be super important for them. | ||
| Oh, no, no, no. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| I wouldn't suck up to them. | ||
| But these are dumb people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So they would think that that makes sense. | ||
| Despite... | ||
| Decades upon decades of evidence proving that there is no loyalty from these two idiots and they will betray you for themselves instantly for no reason. | ||
| They're supposed to be the tip of the spear, though. | ||
| And here they are just being like, oh, it's exciting that my racist billionaire friends are chatting. | ||
| I mean, I wish all of the magazines and all of the news people and all of the journalists and all of the TV people would go back. | ||
| To, like, that early 2010s and that whole, like, oh, Elon Musk is a genius phase. | ||
| They all went through. | ||
| Look deep inside and quit. | ||
| Quit your jobs. | ||
| Everybody quit. | ||
| Quit. | ||
| We seemed exciting at the time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And here we are. | ||
| So you should quit. | ||
| It didn't go great. | ||
| No. | ||
| So, you know, you're talking about looking back. | ||
| And that's appropriate. | ||
| Because Chase is sitting here looking back on... | ||
| Better times for him on Twitter. | ||
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Oh! | |
| Back when he could throw around slurs. | ||
| Okay! | ||
| The UK, or the EU, rather, is really not happy about this. | ||
| They sent out a letter basically threatening Elon Musk not to interview Donald Trump. | ||
| Totally absurd. | ||
| Totally blatant foreign interference in an American election. | ||
| Attempted interference, at least. | ||
| The fact that Elon Musk has opened up the platform so much, and people are still not... | ||
| You know, totally happy with it, but it's like, do you remember what X used to be like? | ||
| Do you remember how it used to be that you couldn't say anything without fear of your entire account just being axed with no warning? | ||
| I mean, it was bad before. | ||
| It is significantly better now. | ||
| Have you ever gone back and looked at your drafts from the pre-X era? | ||
| No. | ||
| So I would... | ||
| Type things, and then I would look at it, and I would analyze, would this get me banned? | ||
| Right. | ||
| And if it would, I wouldn't delete it, I would save it as a draft. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And I've gone back and looked, and there were some real bankers in there, right? | ||
| But so many of them we could say now, right? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like, you couldn't even use the word retard back then, right? | ||
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Right. | |
| On X, and you would get suspended. | ||
| And I used to do this thing where I would donate $5 to ARC, which is the Association of Retarded Citizens. | ||
| It's just called ARC now, because retarded is now... | ||
| An antiquated term. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| But if you donated in someone's name, it would show up on their feed. | ||
| Like, oh, you know, $5 was donated in the name. | ||
| So I would donate $5 to Ark and then take a screenshot of the name of the person and then reply because I couldn't call him a retard. | ||
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That's the most passive-aggressive charity I've ever heard of. | |
| Right? | ||
| But the era of self-censorship is virtually over. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Maybe he's looking back on a time when he had to be creative, I guess, about his slurs. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So the EU industry chief, Terry Bretton, wrote Elon a letter telling him that there were legal implications to this interview with Trump and that since he was doing it, Bretton wanted to remind him of the rules of the Digital Service Act so that Elon would stay in line with that during the conversation. | ||
| He wasn't telling him that he can't do the interview or anything like that, just that there are rules that apply in EU countries that Elon is subject to. | ||
| And benefits from a great deal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's fun that Chase's basic point there is that he misses when it was kind of okay to be a lazy bully on Twitter. | ||
| Like when he's writing, when he's complaining about this time that like the drafts, you had to, he saved these things for drafts. | ||
| It's because prior to that, he was fine using slurs. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And all this shit was fine. | ||
| And then moderation came in. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it started to not be okay. | ||
| And now it's okay again. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I don't know. | ||
| When I stop and think about what they're talking about, that old-timey thing, I would guarantee that I was meaner to people than any of them could ever have dreamt of being, but I was never afraid of being banned because I am creative, so it never concerned me. | ||
| Why would you use words that are offensive to other people? | ||
| I'm trying to hurt you, specifically. | ||
| But were you as creative as Chase? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I actually think that's pretty funny. | ||
| It's kind of exploiting a charity in order to be able to use a slur. | ||
| Unfortunately, if you're the ones who are going to build ambiguity into words, it's not my fault how they're used. | ||
| I don't understand how wokeness took this joke away from him, but that does seem to be the complaint that he's making, and now Elon Musk has given the joke back to him. | ||
| I mean, I think the irony is that wokeness is what gave him the good part of the joke. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Having to be creative about it, having to point out the inherent hypocrisy in calling that word a bad word, and yet still using it in the name of your charitable organization. | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| The limitations are literally the only thing that's interesting about what Chase is saying. | ||
| Yeah, what you actually have to say is fucking stupid. | ||
| His response to the limitation is the only thing that's creative at all. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So we get to some more just, I don't know, killing time before Alex gets there? | ||
| I think that it's good that Trump has saved something like this. | ||
| For this late in the game because it's going to have more momentum into the actual election day on November 5th than if he would have done it six months ago or nine months ago. | ||
| That would have worn off. | ||
| Now, I hope he's got more things like this to come over the course of the next 90 days or so because there always has to be a real zinger all the way up until election day. | ||
| You don't want people to forget some of the main... | ||
| Awesome milestones of a campaign like the assassination, like the coming back to the X platform and getting hundreds of thousands of likes despite the Krasenstein's repeated attempts to ratio him. | ||
| Every time they can, they get like 3,000 likes on the replies to his 300,000-like posting. | ||
| Not even close, not even like 1%, right? | ||
| This is so sad. | ||
| That is the saddest thing I've ever heard. | ||
| We've got to keep the hits coming all the way up to the election, like the time someone shot at Trump or when the Krasensteins failed to ratio him. | ||
| Ah, man. | ||
| Y 'all got to listen to your own words and then just be like, oh, we can just change. | ||
| We can just stop this. | ||
| Once those words come out of your mouth, there should be an alarm sound that goes off, right? | ||
| Yeah, I think this should be a moment of clarity. | ||
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Alarm! | |
| Run! | ||
| This is what we're excited about. | ||
| We got to go. | ||
| These are the milestones. | ||
| We got to go, man. | ||
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Yikes. | |
| So if you want to hear another just blaring red flag kind of... | ||
| Oh, I do. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| They're scheduled to go on X spaces with Trump and Elon at 7 p.m. tonight. | ||
| We will be here for that. | ||
| Likely it'll be sort of similar to our coverage of the RNC where we'll mostly be watching it. | ||
| We'll chime in with entertaining and enlightening comments as we see fit. | ||
| But mostly we'll just be watching along with all you fine folks. | ||
| I believe Owen Schroer will be joining us at some point. | ||
| I know he was doing a pre-recorded interview after the War Room today. | ||
| And Alex Jones should be doing something a little later this evening as well. | ||
| I'm not sure what we... | ||
| Can or want to say about that. | ||
| No, it's published. | ||
| He's going to be with Mario Nafal. | ||
| He'll be with Mario Nafal at 9pm tonight. | ||
| And I think we're going to broadcast that too, so if you stay tuned on our live streams on either Real Alex Jones or here on InfoWars, you should be able to see it. | ||
| So stay tuned to InfoWars regardless. | ||
| Dudes, get the lifeboats. | ||
| Get off this boat. | ||
| Alex would rather be on Mario Nafal's Twitter space than on his own show to cover the Musk and... | ||
| Here's what I say. | ||
| This is where you stage a mutiny. | ||
| Chase, Harrison, lock the doors. | ||
| Nobody's getting in. | ||
| InfoWars is ours now. | ||
| That's what you do. | ||
| I mean, you're doing kind of what Alex would have done. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| That's the idea. | ||
| You're taking his power away from him, giving it to yourself, and now you're powerful. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's an indication of a priority. | ||
| And Alex's priority is these other people's Twitter space over his own network. | ||
| I'll leave this to the kids. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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But Alex does end up spending most of the time on Infowars. | |
| So he does end up showing up. | ||
| But when I was listening to this, it's clear that that's not necessarily the plan. | ||
| The plan is maybe Owen Schroyer's going to be here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Alex will be on with this other guy. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Here's how you can sell that to them to avoid the mutiny. | ||
| JV squad, time to step up. | ||
| You guys are the stars. | ||
| I'm going to go do my own thing. | ||
| So I'm going to give you time to shine. | ||
| I'm going to give you space to blossom. | ||
| Twitter space. | ||
| And then when you show up and you say for a while, that goes out the window, though. | ||
| And you might as well have just been like, you're failures, both of you. | ||
| Harrison, I trusted you on January 6th. | ||
| See what I'm saying? | ||
| You're so good. | ||
| Pass me the bourbon. | ||
| It has fallen. | ||
| The bourbon has fallen. | ||
| So Twitter space. | ||
| It's really the town square when you kind of think about it. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| But it'll be interesting seeing a Twitter space with all of these politicians and celebrities and probably world leaders. | ||
| I mean, who isn't going to be looking into this? | ||
| There's never been a television broadcast where you have a list of everybody watching at that moment. | ||
| Which is, again, I love Twitter spaces. | ||
| I love the novelty and uniqueness of this platform. | ||
| I'm so glad this is becoming... | ||
| It really is like... | ||
| Like a global town hall. | ||
| Everybody can listen in. | ||
| Raise your hand if you want to speak. | ||
| You can bring anybody up. | ||
| It's totally fascinating. | ||
| Thank God for Elon Musk. | ||
| What more can you say? | ||
| It's the only platform that I've been on where I've made... | ||
| True friends with strangers. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| So it's the town square, right? | ||
| It's Town Hall, but it's also owned by the richest man in the world who can shut you down and cut you out of Town Hall if he doesn't like you. | ||
| Supporting this is not in line with the correct conspiracy position, but Infowars has abandoned even trying to appear consistent because they're pretty sure that the billionaire in this case is on their side. | ||
| It's a nice piece of hubris, but we'll see how it works out in the long run. | ||
| Also, in any other setting, I can easily see Harrison saying that there's the list of everyone who's tuning into this conversation. | ||
| Seems like a good idea for a shadowy globalist organization to make an enemies list. | ||
| But in this case, I guess it's a cool feature of Twitter Spaces. | ||
| Also glad to hear Chase is making friends on Twitter. | ||
| Now might be a good time just to say that he follows us. | ||
| I was looking at my phone and I had an update of Chase Geyser Falls. | ||
| That's not surprising. | ||
| That's not surprising. | ||
| That's funny. | ||
| I... | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Making friends. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| I... | ||
| You know, I would posit... | ||
| That a lot of these people, and I think all of us, really are afraid of, in some ways, getting kicked in the face. | ||
| Metaphorically or literally. | ||
| And to me, it's always been just like a math thing. | ||
| That if you are licking boot, you are much closer to the kick in the face. | ||
| Your foot's right there. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| Back off! | ||
| Just leave it alone! | ||
| Don't lick that boot! | ||
| You're gonna get kicked in the face. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a good cautionary thing. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| I always felt that way about pro wrestling. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| That person can't give you that move if you're not in that position. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Don't get in that position. | ||
| Whatever you do, if you're fighting against, I don't know, Stone Cold, don't let him kick you in the stomach. | ||
| Whatever you do, you're getting stunned if he kicks you in the stomach. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| That's just planning. | ||
| It's just strategy. | ||
| It's basic strategy. | ||
| This guy has a special move that will defeat you, so avoid said move. | ||
| Don't lick that boot because you're going to get kicked in the mouth. | ||
| Seems odd. | ||
| Seems odd how many people are desperate to lick that boot. | ||
| So they've got to kill some time before Owen Troyer shows up, or the space starts, or anything. | ||
| And so Harrison begins to read IMs, instant messages that come in. | ||
| And so he's got an interesting one here. | ||
| Crypto Plissken says, I'm worried the Dems will cheat for Trump during the election instead of themselves, then investigate instead of Trump as the cheater. | ||
| I have not heard that theory before. | ||
| That's a wild one, but I like it. | ||
| Right? | ||
| I like it too. | ||
| This is why I'm not allowed Biden to leave office now because that would make Mike Johnson the vice president, which would cause a problem for the Dems when they stuff the ballot for Trump. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
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Is it? | |
| I have not heard about that idea. | ||
| But with, I don't, I don't know. | ||
| That is a little far-fetched, but then again. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| He just by default becomes the vice president, or does Kamala get to pick another one? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| I need to chat GPT. | ||
| He would be in third in line. | ||
| You guys should know this, first of all. | ||
| And second, your response shouldn't be, I need to chat GPT this. | ||
| I am... | ||
| Very sad. | ||
| I am blown away by all of that exchange. | ||
| It's a fun little ride, because the person who's coming from the IM is like, that's a... | ||
| Interesting theory. | ||
| The devs are gonna cheat for Trump in order to, like, create evidence that Trump cheated in order to use him against him. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Right? | ||
| You're getting your opponent disqualified. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| You shouldn't watch porn and have the art of war open on the same tap. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Like, if you're one of these right-wing guys, you can't be like, uh, big... | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| This guy has this weird theory, and Harrison's response to it is, that sounds interesting. | ||
| Chase comes in with a, I haven't heard that one before, but I like it. | ||
| This is a writer's room. | ||
| It's a creative writing exercise. | ||
| I just appreciate that it is far more, like... | ||
| It's not about, oh, this is a stupid theory. | ||
| This is a right theory or a wrong theory. | ||
| It's more about, ooh, haven't heard that one before. | ||
| Yeah, ooh, that might be fun to say. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Let's taste that. | ||
| We'd want people to use that. | ||
| That is a little bit like they're swishing it around in their mouths a little bit. | ||
| Oh, they cheated themselves out of the election to trick us. | ||
| How could they be so smart? | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, the space is about to start. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I don't know if you know this, but I assume you do, because you live in the world. | ||
| The space did not start on time. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I assume you heard that. | ||
| I heard that there were problems. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| There's some trouble. | ||
| Now, Chase has gotten up and left, because he's setting up the space, I believe, that we'll be talking on. | ||
| Owen Troyer is going to join me momentarily. | ||
| We should be beginning in 30 seconds, but who knows? | ||
| I mean, I guess that's... | ||
| That is the double-edged sword with Twitter Spaces. | ||
| It's not broadcast TV, so that's good, but it also means we're not sure whether they're going to start directly on time, and I assume the crew is working feverishly to make sure that we get the... | ||
| Alright, folks, this is a new twist. | ||
| We're going to go to a quick video. | ||
| This is one Trump posted on his ex. | ||
| It's called Test of a Man. | ||
| Yeah, so they do play some Trump ads. | ||
| But yeah, they're not sure when it's going to start, and that is actually a good thing. | ||
| This is not professional, and we don't know. | ||
| So Chase has gone to the control booth. | ||
| Owen's going to be showing up. | ||
| And then, what do you know? | ||
| Like, okay. | ||
| That does make sense. | ||
| If you're a pirate radio station. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Not if you are the richest man in the world who owns the platform you are about to start. | ||
| Interviewing the former president who's running for president. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| If you and I are pirate broadcasting from fucking international waters, you should not know when the broadcast is going to start. | ||
| If we owned CBS, then you should know when the show starts. | ||
| It would be a sign of incompetence if you're sort of flying by the seat of your pants. | ||
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It is cool when you're broke. | |
| So, Alex actually shows up. | ||
| Because the space is about to start, and I guess Mario Naval didn't want him on at this point. | ||
| Or something. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| But Alex, he's here. | ||
| It wasn't hard to predict the X spaces because of... | ||
| I mean, I was on the Elon a while back ago. | ||
| 25 million people watched it live. | ||
| Another 25 million, 30 million in the next couple days. | ||
| 50 million. | ||
| I bet there's 100 million trying to tune in. | ||
| But when Biden or Kamala Harris has one of their events on YouTube, it's got 500 consecutive viewers. | ||
| Literally, maybe 600. | ||
| On a good day. | ||
| On a good day. | ||
| So this is a good problem to have, like Rumble. | ||
| I've been on some shows, like Stephen Crowder, when he gets 2-3 million, it crashes. | ||
| And you guarantee election night. | ||
| We're not going to crash if we pay for the bandwidth, but it's going to cost a lot of money. | ||
| It costs a lot of money to bring in this information. | ||
| Something I'm not good at is plugging to support InfoWarsStore.com. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Right out the gate. | ||
| Something I'm not good at. | ||
| Pretty smooth. | ||
| But so the space isn't working. | ||
| And Alex's immediate response to it is pretty rational, which is there's too many people who are trying to watch it. | ||
| The infrastructure at Twitter sucks. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They didn't plan well for this. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| But it works into the everyone likes us, no one wants to watch Harris. | ||
| So you can work with this for now. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And that's the space that they're going to live in. | ||
| So while we wait... | ||
| Why not talk about that assassination? | ||
| That was pretty exciting. | ||
| That is the question that I think I did have about all that, because I don't care what they said to each other, because they didn't tell each other anything true. | ||
| There's nothing that they could say that would be informative. | ||
| No. | ||
| They don't know anything. | ||
| The only thing that's interesting, and the only reason I'm even doing this episode, is because of Alex's response to the things that happened. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No, that's what's interesting to me, is everybody... | ||
| Maybe I'm crazy, but I do feel like everybody kind of knows what's going on, and we're all in varying degrees of denial about how it's going to shake out, right? | ||
| But everybody that I've talked to, my family, all of these people, like... | ||
| They know this is bullshit. | ||
| I think... | ||
| Nobody's surprised that this is bullshit. | ||
| I feel like it's really tough for me to imagine someone doesn't. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| But I have to include it as a possibility. | ||
| It's crazy to me because it is like they're all just like, well, obviously we're going to vote for this guy, but he is a terrifying nonsense spewing rapist. | ||
| Like, what? | ||
| How is that also true? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So they talk about this assassination attempt, and Alex appears to be arguing with an imaginary person who said that the shooting didn't happen. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't know who this person is. | ||
| The whole shooting didn't happen, or just the ear part? | ||
| It was staged or something. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Whatever it is, yeah. | ||
| But he's arguing with someone in his head, and he's decided that he's going to prove them wrong. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| These idiot leftists put up images of full cartridges. | ||
| And they usually put up 5.56, they'll put up like.308 or.338 lapua or something or.30-06 and say, oh, this whole thing hit his ear. | ||
| No, the bullet fires. | ||
| And I can tell you how many times I've shot at a wild hog 600 yards away or many things I've shot, whitetail, you name it. | ||
| I've done a lot of hunting back when I had time. | ||
| Mule deer, mountain goats, you name it. | ||
| And you'll shoot and think you missed it. | ||
| And you get another one in the chamber and fire and hit it right in the chest. | ||
| It falls over dead. | ||
| When you get there, you just see a graze right through an ear, a little bit of blood, a tiny little scrape, or right above the top of the back, or right across the leg because you're shooting 700 yards away, 500 yards away. | ||
| I mean, so they think like a full cartridge shot out. | ||
| No, it just skimmed him. | ||
| It just went right by at 3,000 or 2,500 feet per minute, 3,000 on the muzzle, but at 150 yards. | ||
| About 2,400 feet per second and just skimmed his ear. | ||
| And so we haven't had time yet, but I want to go out the next few weeks with you guys, some of these outdoor shooting ranges, and put up maybe watermelons, you name it, and we'll just set the scopes up and shoot and graze it and show people what we're talking about. | ||
| They don't get grazing. | ||
| Yeah, that's one of the... | ||
| Part of the miraculous thing of the assassination attempt is the way it happened, it could not have been faked. | ||
| I mean, there's a photo of the bullet flying through the air. | ||
| Not even an AI robot could follow his head perfectly with the wind and things and only skim him. | ||
| That guy died. | ||
| I mean, this was real. | ||
| I mean, you can't fake this. | ||
| If I were Alex, I would say that all of that is evidence that it must be faked. | ||
| It's too perfect. | ||
| Yeah, I mean... | ||
| I don't know who he's arguing with exactly. | ||
| Himself! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's the person who would say it's fake. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The imagined enemy of himself. | ||
| Yeah, he's like, oh, the only idiot who would say something like this was fake. | ||
| Oh, shit, it's me. | ||
| I do like, though, that I have this image in my head of them going out to a shooting range and William telling it with Chase put a watermelon on top of his head. | ||
| We gotta prove it. | ||
| Try and graze it. | ||
| Listen, we're not gonna burrows this, okay, Chase? | ||
| You're gonna be fine. | ||
| Yeah, you'll be alright. | ||
| We also have a flight lined up for me to be not in this country anymore very quickly, but you're going to be fine. | ||
| I think that would be a great video. | ||
| So the space does not start for a bit, and they're not really all that surprised. | ||
| Let's just be clear. | ||
| I'm sorry to say it. | ||
| It's obviously probably true at this point. | ||
| I think it's safe to say they can't even get on air. | ||
| This was a strategic blunder. | ||
| They should have... | ||
| Back-ended this transmission, done it in a studio like we do, and then streamed it to X. As a side deal. | ||
| They should not have relied on the front-end X technology to make sure this thing got off the ground because here we are, not shocked at all that it's not. | ||
| And that's what's frustrating is we had to come from the trenches, myself 30 years, you a decade, you guys a long time, where we had to have our own stuff. | ||
| And I know that X, I talked to back room folks. | ||
| It is his own stuff! | ||
| It's all his stuff! | ||
| I get it. | ||
| You have millions of people tuning in and dialing in. | ||
| It's hard to get all that done. | ||
| Maybe they should have one tier for the host that's video, then another tier that's audio. | ||
| So we did get a control room. | ||
| Well, hey, let's get Chase Geiser, who's the Spaces expert, which I think is great technology. | ||
| They're working the bugs out. | ||
| We're not criticizing. | ||
| You know, if Musk was not a maverick, we would be, you know, obviously he's a maverick on free speech. | ||
| But this is too big to go with an experimental technology, in my opinion. | ||
| Well, I mean, actually, I saw the speculation today that it would crash. | ||
| I think you even said that, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Everybody did! | ||
| Because it was going to! | ||
| It's going to rain in Florida or something. | ||
| Yeah, it's a fucking easy prediction. | ||
| What is happening? | ||
| The site barely works. | ||
| It sucks. | ||
| We're not criticizing it. | ||
| The richest person in the world is interviewing the former president and presidential candidate for the Republican Party. | ||
| So obviously there's going to be a lot of eyes on this, and it's shitty infrastructure. | ||
| Everyone knows this. | ||
| Alex knows this. | ||
| Owen knows this. | ||
| It's obvious. | ||
| Everybody knows it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it's like, I remember so much from when I was growing up, because that was the narrative in my house when I was growing up, because it was during the Clinton years, so it was like, ah, it should be run like a business. | ||
| The United States should be a business, or then it became a household. | ||
| Either way, somebody's dad should be in charge and control all the money, right? | ||
| And this is like... | ||
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If... | |
| If... | ||
| They could pull off a business. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| But this is their business. | ||
| This is business. | ||
| This is what their business looks like. | ||
| I do not want anything being run like this. | ||
| They announced this considerably in advance. | ||
| There was every opportunity to not have this kind of false start. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And everyone saw it coming, and it happened. | ||
| And it did happen. | ||
| So that's where we're at, kind of, at this point on the stream. | ||
| Look, look, look. | ||
| Elon, he's the first to admit it. | ||
| He is the guy that takes on too much. | ||
| So, you know, we can't... | ||
| Then don't do it! | ||
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Chase is the control room. | |
| Chase, guys, you know more about spaces than us. | ||
| You're kind of the techie around here of the host. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| Well, there's over 205,000 people that are in the space right now. | ||
| I'm actually currently in the space because I was one of the first people to join it, so I was able to get in. | ||
| But it seems like they're having server capacity issues because so many people are trying to join the space at the same time. | ||
| People like the Hodge twins and others are in the replies on both Elon Musk's account and Donald Trump's account, saying that they're having a hard time getting in. | ||
| I was about to say, I'm not an engineer, but I've noticed the last 20 minutes is about 200,000. | ||
| I'm guessing that's the threshold of the server, so millions more are trying to get on. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| And I know from conversations that I've had with Dick Sordor, because he and Mario, of course, are very intimately involved with the Spaces team at X. That as of a few months ago, the spaces team was only like half a dozen to a dozen people total as far as engineers are concerned. | ||
| So we're talking about a really kind of bootstrap, lean team dealing with this massive capacity. | ||
| I'll tell you what, if this was a Kamala Harris space, I don't think it would be breaking the internet. | ||
| Yeah, there'd be 3,000 people in it. | ||
| Right, while Donald Trump breaks the internet, Kamala Harris breaks America, right? | ||
| Oh, perfect. | ||
| Say that again. | ||
| While Donald Trump breaks the internet, Kamala Harris breaks America. | ||
| Yes, and they're going to spin this tomorrow, and hopefully Elon's going to follow those engineers yelling at people to up the servers. | ||
| I imagine he is yelling at somebody. | ||
| Yeah, Chase got a good catchphrase in there. | ||
| Alex was very proud of that. | ||
| I hate it whenever there's nothing to argue with. | ||
| He has just made all of my points perfectly about why everything he believes is wrong. | ||
| And everybody who wants to be president shouldn't be. | ||
| And everything that he thinks is right should be thrown into the sun. | ||
| He made the argument for me. | ||
| And I think that there is such a, like, yep, kind of response to this. | ||
| You're watching Alex do a live stream of this stream. | ||
| The stream interview doesn't work, and their reaction to it is, oh yeah, obviously they fucked up. | ||
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You know the people... | |
| Yeah. | ||
| If you... | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| How about this? | ||
| How about this? | ||
| Let me throw this out at you. | ||
| Theoretically speaking, this is an idea of who we are choosing. | ||
| We choose to lead us, right? | ||
| So if you are choosing who to lead you, right, and then your next words are like, well, obviously nothing they do works. | ||
| You know, he'll be the first to tell you that his failing is that he tries to do too much. | ||
| And then fails. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Fuck off. | |
| So anyway, it's just a logistical issue, though, really. | ||
| Well, yes, but that is his job! | ||
| Yeah, but he takes on too many challenges. | ||
| I'm no engineer. | ||
| It's at $205,000. | ||
| That's the cap. | ||
| I'm surprised they can take 205,000 people are able to dial into a thing where... | ||
| That is not your correct reaction to this. | ||
| I think the biggest venue in the world is the Maracana in Brazil. | ||
| That is not your reaction to this! | ||
| But that's what it is. | ||
| So it's like, you've got... | ||
| Ten million people trying to pour into the Morocco now. | ||
| It doesn't fit. | ||
| It doesn't hold that many people. | ||
| If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit. | ||
| So I just think that that's the deal here. | ||
| You know what, Alex? | ||
| Hey, there's a silver lining to everything, and maybe that's ultimately how this is going to end up, is Musk and Trump in the same room. | ||
| Well, the silver lining is they should say, cut all the other speakers, and they should talk. | ||
| I don't know why that wasn't fair. | ||
| You know me, I would have won a fit in five minutes. | ||
| Oh, yes, you would have. | ||
| We all know that. | ||
| We do all know that. | ||
| So I think that maybe Owen read an article about this venue in Brazil recently. | ||
| It would make sense, yeah. | ||
| Top of mind. | ||
| I think I probably just played that clip because of Alex's response being, if the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit. | ||
| I don't even understand. | ||
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No. | |
| That's amazing. | ||
| It's very strange. | ||
| That is amazing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So there's nothing going on, really. | ||
| There's no conspiracy. | ||
| No, that's the problem. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| When it's incompetence, you're supposed to make it a conspiracy. | ||
| But it's not really incompetence if you look at it the right way. | ||
| It's you're too popular. | ||
| Like, the limitations of this technology are kind of understandable. | ||
| It's just that you are way too popular for the technology to handle. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Which... | ||
| I accept if you are a media company or a person who talks. | ||
| But if you're literally purveyed as the tech guy who invents tech that does shit like this, then yeah, it is incumbent upon you to make it work! | ||
| It's kind of glaring when you don't. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, and that's kind of why you need an excuse. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And thankfully, Elon comes through with an excuse for everybody. | ||
| After they have already really just... | ||
| What's he got? | ||
| I bet it's people got rid of Rhodesia. | ||
| Is that what it was? | ||
| It might be in the background somewhere. | ||
| This was too easy to predict. | ||
| And so, hey, maybe it'll be kind of a troubleshooting thing for X now. | ||
| And they can figure out how to make it better in the future. | ||
| I hope this thing ends up getting off sometime tonight. | ||
| If not, though... | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Either way, Trump must be in a room. | ||
| Hey, we got an update from Elon Musk. | ||
| Elon Musk says there appears to be a massive DDoS attack happening. | ||
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Of course. | |
| I predicted that. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| This is not a failure of excellence. | ||
| This is actually a cyber attack happening. | ||
| Probably backed by people supported by the EU and others who have come out and issued threatening letters today. | ||
| No, I mean, I agree with that because I figure Musk had this updated. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that probably is it. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| That's totally probably it. | ||
| We were just talking about how there's too many people and the infrastructure of Twitter is shitty. | ||
| But yeah, it was probably a massive DDoS attack probably run by the U.S. because they hate this and it's too scary. | ||
| He's too powerful. | ||
| That sucks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That sucks because it's not fun. | ||
| It's not fun to fight against a baby. | ||
| Well, I think it's fun that that clip is like 35 seconds long and it starts with Owen being like, yeah, we all saw this coming, you know, it's no big deal. | ||
| And then it ends with, oh no! | ||
| The UN! | ||
| I mean, I just like, if you're willing to go there, then... | ||
| It's almost like seeing keys jangling. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It is. | ||
| In 30 seconds, you go from... | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Oh, it's a DDoS attack! | ||
| Way! | ||
| That totally makes sense. | ||
| No, that's way more making sense than the thing that we all agreed upon five seconds ago. | ||
| And it does appear that Musk may have been lying about that. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, we do finally get to the space, and there's some elevator music playing it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right, there is some speaking happening in the space right now. | ||
| Okay, go to it. | ||
| Go to it. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| Well, it looks like it went away. | ||
| They just did a quick update in the space where they said there was a cyber attack, and now they're back to the whole music. | ||
| Sorry about that, guys. | ||
| Hey, I love this attack. | ||
| It only makes it bigger. | ||
| If we don't, most people are like, oh, God, we're attacked. | ||
| We're going home. | ||
| This is what happens in the info war, folks. | ||
| I mean, you got Elon Musk and Donald Trump. | ||
| Obviously, millions want to hear it. | ||
| And I tell you, my gut level, which I said, I guarantee it's true. | ||
| He probably boosted all the bandwidth, did major updates, but there was an attack on top of it. | ||
| So yeah, we've shifted over now. | ||
| This is what's going on. | ||
| The EU is too scared of Trump and Elon coming together, and so they had to attack this. | ||
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I do think it's probably super lucky. | |
| If you're able to announce in the space that there's a cyber attack while a cyber attack is going on. | ||
| That is nice. | ||
| And still be able to play your hold music. | ||
| It is so nice of the cyber attackers to give you that courtesy. | ||
| Because a lot of ransomware people, they'll just like... | ||
| Drop the software onto your thing, and then they'll lock it so you can't do anything unless you pay them. | ||
| It's kind of like a ransom. | ||
| This is an ambivalent attack. | ||
| Yeah, it's more of a like, I wonder how much we can fuck up his 20 minutes, I guess? | ||
| Alright, okay. | ||
| It's almost like a villain who's... | ||
| The plot isn't to actually stop something, but it's like, let's see them get around this. | ||
| And that seems dumb. | ||
| It feels like a plan that somebody whose other plan is, what if the Democrats rig the election for Trump in order to prove that he rigged it? | ||
| Similar headspaces. | ||
| So, you know what? | ||
| This isn't all bad news. | ||
| Their stream isn't working. | ||
| You know whose is? | ||
| InfoWars, baby! | ||
| Who do I have in there posting on X? | ||
| Because I see us with millions of viewers already tuning to us. | ||
| So I want to put this out on X as another repost of the live feed. | ||
| You guys got me? | ||
| I want to put what I'm about to say out, I can do it myself right now, on X of the live show feed. | ||
| I want to put this out right now. | ||
| You guys ready? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I'm listening to you right now. | ||
| Alright, I want you to retweet this. | ||
| I want you to post this on X. Elon Trump interview under hack attack. | ||
| Watch censored feed here, which we're about to launch, which we're taking. | ||
| It's all true. | ||
| And that'll go super viral, because every person's another being blocked. | ||
| They don't know why they can get on. | ||
| They're trying to find out. | ||
| We've got to tell them. | ||
| We're already telling them what just happened. | ||
| See, it's not hype. | ||
| It's real. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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Defensive. | |
| Elon Trump interview under hack attack. | ||
| See censored interview here live. | ||
| That's the headline. | ||
| And you see, we're not even doing it in the future. | ||
| It already happened. | ||
| But the people trying to hit the Elon link aren't able to get this because it shut down. | ||
| We're telling them. | ||
| So you heard the headline right now. | ||
| You know, exclusive. | ||
| Elon Trump interviewed under hack attack. | ||
| Hear and see censored interview at this link. | ||
| Sound good? | ||
| Something like that? | ||
| All right, fire that out. | ||
| So that's Chops right there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's somebody who is adept at making lemonade out of lemons. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He is sitting there like, how does this work for me? | ||
| Ah, I will get everyone who can't get on. | ||
| Yep, that's the smart move. | ||
| That's the smart move, yeah. | ||
| It's exploitative, and he realizes it in the moment while he's trying to rationalize why, aha, this is not hype. | ||
| Well, I mean, I would think that the thing that makes sense about Twitter space—I've never used it, obviously, and I'm not on Twitter, obviously—would be, like, the decentralized node aspect, right? | ||
| So you can be on your Twitter space watching somebody else's Twitter space, right? | ||
| So people can connect to yours through— I guess. | ||
| I thought that would be the thing that would make sense. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| As opposed to just one giant—but, I mean, hey, I'm not the richest man in the world, so what do I know? | ||
| Well, I do know that whatever it is is not working. | ||
| No. | ||
| At this point. | ||
| But, you know, Bandai Video is... | ||
| Their streams are... | ||
| Here's my... | ||
| They make a killing off this. | ||
| I've got a thing. | ||
| I think we need to do this as a society and as a language. | ||
| We need to really limit what hack can be applied to. | ||
| You know, like the Roger Stone thing. | ||
| Whenever people are like, oh, Iranian hackers sent... | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Roger Stone was not hacked. | ||
| He clicked on an email link. | ||
| That is not getting hacked. | ||
| No, Roger Stone is an idiot. | ||
| That is your headline. | ||
| Not Roger Stone got hacked by super brilliant Iranian hackers. | ||
| There's a phishing email from every major government in Roger Stone's spam file right now. | ||
| Every single major government in Australia has a phishing email. | ||
| If Roger Stone accidentally clicks on a link, then Australia has all of his shit. | ||
| Nobody's hacking it. | ||
| I think you're being too generous assuming it's government. | ||
| Well, fair enough. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| But you know what I'm saying. | ||
| Yeah, but it's so fun to say hack attack. | ||
| But that's why people think they got hacked instead of they were stupidly clicked on an email link. | ||
| Or you just were unprepared for a giant group of people to show up at your Twitter space. | ||
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Could be. | |
| So, Owen spent some time before... | ||
| I mean, because we don't have anything to watch. | ||
| Right, we don't have anything to do. | ||
| So he just sort of complains about how some people shouldn't vote. | ||
| Smart. | ||
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But the lemmings stand behind her and cheer and clap. | |
| Like, they love it. | ||
| And I'm just sitting here, because if you look at the original founding of this country and the political science when it first was founded, we've really kind of... | ||
| Gone off pasture in a lot of ways. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Well, I don't mean just the basic constitutional violations, but I mean how the actual science is applied. | ||
| Like, these people shouldn't vote. | ||
| I'm to the point now where I'm like, F your voting rights, bro. | ||
| Did you see the women? | ||
| I never played it today. | ||
| Can you ask you that up? | ||
| Of the Democrat Party women howling like animals, saying, she a woman, she black. | ||
| Have you seen this clip? | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| I mean, that is the correct take for an originalist constitution, right? | ||
| Like, it should only be white men voting. | ||
| Like, that's what he believes, so say it. | ||
| It's a far more honest take than a lot of people in this space are willing to articulate. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| F your voting rights, bro. | ||
| Yes, it should be. | ||
| I liked the country the way that it was originally set up, and all of you think because the words apply to more than white people that they should, and I disagree. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I like... | ||
| Along with Thomas Jefferson. | ||
| I don't think... | ||
| You should have the right to vote! | ||
| I like thinking that my rights are God-given. | ||
| Right! | ||
| But that doesn't mean that everyone's on... | ||
| Inalienable white human rights. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay, Owen. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| Please delineate who you think shouldn't vote. | ||
| Other people who shouldn't vote. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| So we get to the stream, finally. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And it starts off dull. | ||
| They are live. | ||
| This is Donald Trump and Elon Musk now, 42 minutes in. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| ...denial of service attack against our servers and saturated all of our data lines, like basically hundreds of gigabytes of data were saturated. | ||
| We think we've overcome most of that, and so it's now time to proceed. | ||
| As this massive attack illustrates, there's a lot of opposition to people just hearing what President Trump has to say. | ||
| But I'm honored to have this conversation. | ||
| I want to emphasize it's a conversation. | ||
| And it's really intended to just get a feel for what Donald Trump is just like in a conversation. | ||
| It's hard to catch a vibe about someone if you just don't hear them talk in a normal way. | ||
| And when there's an adversarial interview, no one's themselves in an adversarial interview. | ||
| So for Strong disagree Aimed at Kind of Open-minded Independent Voters Who Just try to make up their mind And So You can understand Like What is You know, what is it just like to have a conversation? | ||
| So, Donald, great to speak. | ||
| This is starting off a little rocky. | ||
| I mean, you had the tech problems, and then this is a little bit like, oh, we're just trying to catch a vibe here, man. | ||
| We're just trying to let you know. | ||
| If you're out there, you're an undecided voter. | ||
| Maybe you're somewhere in the middle. | ||
| We just want to give you a vibe. | ||
| See what Trump is really like when he's just having a little bit of a chat with another billionaire. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Seems like an interesting launch-off point. | ||
| That's what you're setting out to do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it's interesting because I don't believe this. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| I don't believe that the intention is to allow undecided voters to make up their own mind about Trump. | ||
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Sure. | |
| I think. | ||
| That there is an intention to sell Trump on undecided programs. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| It's just a regular conversation to find out what a regular guy he is. | ||
| Starting with this kind of a tone is dishonest to the utmost degree. | ||
| I like that that is, like, listen. | ||
| He starts with lying about why it didn't start. | ||
| And then he starts lying. | ||
| I think that you can make an ethical argument for lying about the DDoS attack. | ||
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Whoa, whoa. | |
| I don't even want to get into that. | ||
| It's not deeply unethical to cover your ass. | ||
| I'm not going to fight you. | ||
| I'm not going to fight you. | ||
| I think that this is more unethical. | ||
| I think this one's definitely not going to... | ||
| Nobody's... | ||
| Foucault isn't being like, ah, let him get away with this one. | ||
| No. | ||
| Not happening. | ||
| So, the first question out of the box, which I think is a classy move for an interviewer. | ||
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Sure. | |
| I think this is why you get someone like Elon Musk to do the interview. | ||
| Essentially, Maybe his first question is like, hey, how was it to get shot at? | ||
| That's actually an interesting question. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, maybe we could start off with, I mean, the assassination attempt, which was an incredible thing. | ||
| And I have to say that, you know, your actions after that assassination attempt were inspiring. | ||
| You know, instead of shying away from things, instead of ducking down, You were pumping your fist in the air and saying, fight, fight, fight. | ||
| And I think that's, I mean, you know, the president of the United States represents America. | ||
| And I think that is America. | ||
| That is strength under fire. | ||
| And so that's, you know, a big, you know, part of the reason why I was excited to endorse you as the president of the United States for having another term here. | ||
| That was just incredibly inspiring. | ||
| But, I mean, what was it like for you? | ||
| Not pleasant. | ||
| I said it was blood. | ||
| I didn't know I had that much blood. | ||
| The doctors later told me that the ear is a place that is a very bloody place. | ||
| This seems like a joke. | ||
| Honestly. | ||
| It seems like a parody of what Elon would do. | ||
| Talk about your feelings about this guy getting shot at for a minute. | ||
| Then ask, hey, what was that like to get shot at? | ||
| And don't be like, I have a lot of blood! | ||
| So much blood! | ||
| The ear is a place full of blood! | ||
| I mean, that is such, like... | ||
| Like... | ||
| If he wasn't a psychopath, there are so many great... | ||
| Like, there's so many interesting things to... | ||
| I've never been shot at. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I've never been shot at on purpose or on accident. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And the idea of how many people have been shot at, how much violence and gun violence is part of the United States, to then be able to be like, I am a fucking victim of gun violence in the United States. | ||
| Here's how I feel about it. | ||
| And instead he's like, eh, no good. | ||
| A lot of blood. | ||
| Not fun. | ||
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My doctors, they said I had a lot of blood in my ear. | |
| Yep, doctors double-checked my ears for blood. | ||
| I had the most blood in the most ears they've ever seen. | ||
| That's what they said. | ||
| The doctor said, I had the most blood in one ear that anybody's ever had. | ||
| It still was healthy, and it wasn't elephantitis. | ||
| It honestly feels like what a Trump impersonator would say. | ||
| Yeah, it's what I would say if I was making a joke about what he might say. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, that moment, I think, is kind of fun out of the gate, and then this just nosedives into boring cities. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| This shit is so boring. | ||
| They don't have... | ||
| They don't have anything to say! | ||
| No. | ||
| They're just rich! | ||
| And you can tell that, like, Alex and everyone in the studio is kind of like, ugh. | ||
| And we thought, my first question was because I heard bullets flying over me and I said, how many people were killed? | ||
| Because we had a massive crowd there. | ||
| A tremendous, thousands and thousands of people and there was no land. | ||
| I mean, it was just, it was all people. | ||
| So I said, how many people have been killed? | ||
| Because I knew there were other shots being fired. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And they said, We don't know yet, but some people have been badly hurt. | ||
| And I have to give the Secret Service sniper, they call him, or sharpshooter, but sniper, because he didn't know there was a problem. | ||
| I'm shocked you don't hear snoring. | ||
| Like, this is just dull. | ||
| And you can feel it. | ||
| And then it comes to a head pretty quick. | ||
| Because Trump starts talking about the distance of the shooter and stuff. | ||
| And Owen does a little fact-checking in real time. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because it doesn't match with what they want. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| And they are just... | ||
| You can feel like this is not what we want. | ||
| You know, Trump just said something really curious. | ||
| He said that the sniper that took out the shooter had three times the distance. | ||
| So I don't know what that's about because the testimony from the new... | ||
| Director of Secret Service and the FBI Deputy Director was it was the sniper team to the right of Trump, if you're looking at the stage, is who shot the guy. | ||
| So that's definitely not three times the distance. | ||
| Now, there was a speculation that the guy that shot the shooter on the roof came from across the fairgrounds and was on a roof that is not seen anywhere in any of this footage. | ||
| That's curious to me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, Trump's not perfect. | ||
| He doesn't know all the angles. | ||
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The angles, not truth, false, nothing, angles. | |
| Let's see how Trump's praising Secret Service, the crowd. | ||
| Great, move on. | ||
| What are you going to do to Ronald Rowe, the head of the Secret Service? | ||
| Who actually directed this and lied to Congress. | ||
| So you remember way back we did an episode about Alex covering a Julian Assange press conference that was on at like 4 in the morning or whatever where he thought he was going to like really drop some bombs. | ||
| This is going to be the one. | ||
| But it was WikiLeaks anniversary and he was just giving kind of a formal celebration of the anniversary. | ||
| This has that same energy, where this is not what Alex wanted. | ||
| He wanted Trump to fucking say that there was a Secret Service stand down. | ||
| He needs these things that feed into his conspiracies, and instead Trump's like, Secret Service did a great job, they killed the guy. | ||
| I have a lot of blood in my ear. | ||
| It's like, I love Steph Curry shooting basketball threes. | ||
| He shoots them from a far distance, and then they go in the hoop. | ||
| That does not mean he can act. | ||
| I don't understand what we're doing here. | ||
| Even if you think Elon Musk is great at the thing he does, that does not make him a good broadcaster. | ||
| No, that's true. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| He has some holes in his game. | ||
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Right? | |
| His broadcast game. | ||
| It shouldn't even be like, hey, man, just don't do this. | ||
| This isn't your gig. | ||
| Well, I think compounding that, too, is that Alex, I think, loves the version of Trump that he pretends is real. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And this real version is kind of boring. | ||
| It sucks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It does not really match up to all of the storylines that Alex has told. | ||
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Right. | |
| And it's dull. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so Alex kind of bores himself. | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| And he's just like, uh. | ||
| And then he melts like the Wicked Witch of the West. | ||
| If that were a metaphor for getting drunk, yes. | ||
| But where you see it, the best is the border. | ||
| By the way, we just went up by another 100,000 viewers on one X feed. | ||
| You had all our X feeds together, about 2 million in force feed. | ||
| It's about 3 million. | ||
| Everybody, retweet, repost, live feed of Trump, Elon Musk censored on X. Retweet it right now. | ||
| Retweet the live feed at Real Alex Jones right now. | ||
| Hell, we can push up to 20 million if you do it. | ||
| The enemy hates it. | ||
| Exercise your muscles. | ||
| Annihilate the enemy. | ||
| Attack! | ||
| Infoward! | ||
| Attack! | ||
| Attack! | ||
| Fire at will. | ||
| This ain't a game. | ||
| I need to hold in position and stay on air to lose. | ||
| We're going to win, people. | ||
| I'm so bored, people. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Wow. | ||
| He's so bored. | ||
| It's boring. | ||
| It's boring. | ||
| That should be good. | ||
| If it was like a real politician talking about real stuff with a real person and not Elon Musk and Donald Trump, then it should still be boring. | ||
| It should still be like, hey, I think a 30% extra tax. | ||
| I suggest that I could watch Elon Musk and Trump do that interview and not be painfully bored. | ||
| I could probably find a way to stay engaged throughout it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex cannot. | ||
| I can't. | ||
| And I find that fascinating. | ||
| Not even close. | ||
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Nope. | |
| No. | ||
| But, I mean, you shouldn't. | ||
| I mean, like, you're extraordinary for doing that, but that does not necessarily mean that it's like a skill that should be replicated. | ||
| Again, Steph Curry great at shooting threes. | ||
| Steph Curry's not great at listening to this interview. | ||
| True. | ||
| You're not great at shooting threes. | ||
| This happens. | ||
| I'm an outside man. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We haven't played, here you're right, we haven't played basketball. | ||
| I have a good pop-up. | ||
| You may be great at threes. | ||
| Listen, I assumed too much. | ||
| That's what I was known for back in the day. | ||
| That's because I couldn't dribble. | ||
| That would make sense. | ||
| I can't dribble, but I had a mean outside jumper. | ||
| The white dude in the corner is the most dangerous player in the NBA. | ||
| I think that they built this up so much, and it was so important. | ||
| The richest man in the world who's saving free speech is going to interview our god king. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's just boring as shit. | ||
| And so Alex is left to promote his website and then just basically beg Elon to say Team Humanity. | ||
| Gross. | ||
| Who do you want on Team America? | ||
| And I think we want to just say, okay, we want to let in people who are going to be great contributors to our society and to our economy. | ||
| Everybody tweet at Elon and tell him, call for team humanity. | ||
| In my opinion, actually, I'd say probably most of the illegal immigrants actually are... | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Team humanity. | ||
| We're not against them. | ||
| But they're being used as a weapon. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, I mean, he's trying to sort of, like, will Elon to say the thing that Alex put on a shirt. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so, like, he's a tweet at him to say the thing that has on my shirt so I can sell the shirts. | ||
| This is sad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If I was sitting with one person on a couch and that person was like, ooh, do the thing. | ||
| Do the thing. | ||
| Do the thing. | ||
| I would be like, man, you might be a little too into this. | ||
| But that's okay. | ||
| Or they're high. | ||
| I would not want to be broadcasting myself talking to the TV as if the TV was totally about to listen at any moment. | ||
| Everyone get on Twitter and help me talk to the TV. | ||
| At any moment, the TV is going to listen to us, guys. | ||
| We just got to yell louder. | ||
| Damn. | ||
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Wild. | |
| It is a real dud and a disappointment for a good while. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| You know, the biggest threat is not global warming, where the ocean's going to rise one-eighth of an inch over the next 400 years. | ||
| And you'll have more oceanfront property. | ||
| That's what I'm talking about. | ||
| The biggest threat is nuclear warming. | ||
| Because we have five countries now that have significant nuclear power. | ||
| And we have to not allow anything to happen with stupid people like Biden. | ||
| You know, Biden did something with Russia. | ||
| There was no chance of him ever going in. | ||
| And when I left, and then after I left, they said... | ||
| We're going to go back. | ||
| Again, if you want the raw feed, it's on X of Trump and Elon Musk. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Launched about 47 minutes late because of DDoS. | ||
| We're here. | ||
| We're covering it. | ||
| When it's over, the next 45 minutes. | ||
| I'm supposed to join right now, but it started late. | ||
| Mario No Fall and... | ||
| Nick Sordor and others with spaces to take your comments, but we're going to stay up here as long as it takes. | ||
| Let me say this, though. | ||
| I've got crew that was here at 6 a.m. this morning. | ||
| I'm a very small crew. | ||
| I need your support. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Not, I've got crew that's been here since 6. I'm going to let them go. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| I got crew that's been here since 6. They're going to stay, and if you want to pay them, you better give me money, because I'm not doing it for free. | ||
| Yeah, it's not the most tasteful. | ||
| But hey, look, it's dull. | ||
| It's boring. | ||
| It is dull. | ||
| This is what Alex needs to do. | ||
| He needs to cut in, do a little and, because... | ||
| Otherwise, you're running the risk of... | ||
| Okay, Trump has started talking about Biden. | ||
| He is at risk of sounding like he still thinks he's running against Biden. | ||
| Totally going to. | ||
| Or saying something about how Biden's actually going to come back or all this. | ||
| You don't want to deal with that nonsense. | ||
| So cut him off and go do a plug. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| I was not expecting this next thing. | ||
| And that is that Alex is pretty upfront about how like... | ||
| This isn't what I wanted. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| At drjoesnaggles.com and mfulwarstore.com. | ||
| Before we go back to Elon, and look, I love Trump, and it's a good interview, but he thinks results get him to places, which is true in the real world, but he needs to be talking about the Secret Service stood down, Ronald McDonald Rowe stood down and lied to Congress, the New World Order, all the things that went on. | ||
| I'm not giving Trump a minus here. | ||
| But I'm giving him, like, a B-plus instead of an A-plus. | ||
| And maybe he'll go there. | ||
| But I'm really wishing for something else here. | ||
| I'm really wishing for something else here. | ||
| It sucks. | ||
| This is so fascinating. | ||
| This is so fascinating. | ||
| I feel like we've lived through the most fascinating, but also, like, in 100 years it'll be very fascinating. | ||
| But right now it really fucking pisses me off. | ||
| But this idea of, like, Alex for the longest time knew his place. | ||
| What he was lying about was not real. | ||
| He was doing a game. | ||
| He was doing the bit, right? | ||
| Then Trump comes around and they're like, maybe this is real? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe this is all real. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is all real. | ||
| And then they convince themselves that it was real. | ||
| And now they're back again like, oh no, I don't know if any of this is real. | ||
| Oh shit. | ||
| What is happening? | ||
| I don't think anything I believe is real anymore. | ||
| There's the dissonance of the fake Trump that they've created and the The unavoidability of an interview with Elon Musk and Trump. | ||
| Like, you can't not cover this, but it sucks, and it does not match up with the person who, if all you have to work from is a couple of fun soundbites with swelling music under it, a picture of him bleeding from the face with a flag over his head. | ||
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Totally. | |
| These things are really inspiring. | ||
| If you can just pretend that everyone just hates him because the globalists have tricked them into hating him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a lot you can work with. | ||
| But when you're faced with the real thing, it kind of sucks. | ||
| No, it is 100%. | ||
| Here's what it is. | ||
| Trump and Elon Musk have labored under this idea that because the mainstream media won't just say what they say... | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Wound up being what made them popular. | ||
| So they think that what they're doing is what people want. | ||
| And people think that the mainstream media is portraying them as what they're not. | ||
| But the reality is that people want the mainstream media's version of Trump more than they want Trump. | ||
| Or the right-wing media's version of Trump. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All these people are nuts. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| But at least they're fucking bored. | ||
| I got, I saved one, and I said to Boeing, man, you guys must make a lot of money. | ||
| By the way, it's George Soros' birthday today. | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| It might be Alex Soros' birthday. | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| No, no, no, no, shut it down. | ||
| Tim Waltz is a football guy. | ||
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I'm wondering about Tim Waltz' desire to get involved in youth football. | |
| I was going to catch somebody in a movie to play a pedophile. | ||
| I'd hire Tim Walz. | ||
| I was thinking he's a pedophile. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| So we're so bored that we're doing our classic insinuating that Tim Walz is a pedophile and giving a birthday shout out to George Soros. | ||
| Hey, let's give it up for 81 for Mr. Soros. | ||
| Someone out there is 93 years young. | ||
| What is happening? | ||
| This is bad. | ||
| This is bad times. | ||
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I mean, it is so funny. | |
| Again, but only because you're kind of condensing it, editing it, and curating it. | ||
| If we were forced to all just sit here for the good bits, we'd be like, well, let's just turn this off. | ||
| Yeah, it would be very difficult to make it through. | ||
| I want these people to go away. | ||
| So Elon starts talking about how government, wasteful. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So we need to maybe put together a commission to get rid of government waste. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, we should have a small team of people. | ||
| You know, like, we don't need a large group of people for, like, let's say that we were doing some sort of broadcast and we only have so much server space. | ||
| What we want to do is really make a tight, lean team that can react poorly when things go wrong. | ||
| And we need to do that with the government. | ||
| And that's why Elon should be part of that small team. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| And I'd be happy to help out on such a commission. | ||
| I'd love it. | ||
| Well, you, you're the greatest cutter. | ||
| I mean, I look at what you do. | ||
| You walk in and you just say, you want to quit? | ||
| They go on strike. | ||
| I won't mention the name of the company, but they go on strike and you say, that's okay, you're all gone. | ||
| You're all gone. | ||
| So every one of you is gone and you are the greatest. | ||
| You would be very good. | ||
| Get those union votes. | ||
| If you look at Argentina. | ||
| Well, I'd be happy to help out. | ||
| Yeah, by the way, congratulations. | ||
| I just looked at the number of people that are listening to you and I chat. | ||
| We'll call it a chat. | ||
| But congratulations. | ||
| This is very good. | ||
| I mean, it's great. | ||
| And you're an interesting character. | ||
| You know, the new head of a place called Argentina. | ||
| And he's a big, you know, he's great. | ||
| And he's a big MAGA fan, you know that. | ||
| He ran on MAGA. | ||
| And he took it to an extreme, too. | ||
| He ran on MAGA, and I hear he's doing really a terrific job. | ||
| It's called "Make Argentina Great Again." El Salvador is a better model. | ||
| Is that what we're doing? | ||
| Bad advice on El Salvador. | ||
| But Musk just volunteered to run the commission on government efficiency. | ||
| That's huge. | ||
| He took out 9 out of 10 of the Twitter employees and it works fine. | ||
| He's proven... | ||
| I don't know if I would say that tonight, but... | ||
| Well, they attacked it. | ||
| He's a maverick. | ||
| No, I think that's great. | ||
| I think that boosts... | ||
| No! | ||
| It's even worse! | ||
| If it is an attack! | ||
| He's even Nikola Tesla got past the bureaucrats. | ||
| Now just give RFK a spot, RFK Jr. a spot on vaccine injuries, and we're good. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Let me tell you something. | ||
| He's the Nikola Tesla of our time. | ||
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All right. | |
| We're starting to get a little bit of this drunk vibe. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| Peeking through. | ||
| That's the only way that I could handle this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think it's the only way Alex could handle this. | ||
| But, I mean, like, this is the thinking thing. | ||
| This is the thinking, okay? | ||
| If it is an attack, all right? | ||
| If it actually was an attack that kept Elon from... | ||
| Starting the thing on. | ||
| That is even worse. | ||
| It's an even greater indictment of him being a part of the government. | ||
| Because, again, in the government, it is a real possibility of attack. | ||
| So you would want fail-safes. | ||
| Redundancies, etc. | ||
| In the same way that it's incredibly predictable that the infrastructure of Twitter would fail when all of these users were trying to come to the same space. | ||
| If you're of the mindset of people like Alex and Elon and all this shit, it's incredibly predictable that there would be a DDoS attack or whatever. | ||
|
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Totally. | |
| So you're guilty of the same lack of preparation. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| Because you should have seen this coming if everyone's out to get you and this is such a dangerous conversation. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And it's the same problem. | ||
| I do like Owen's kind of no bullshit. | ||
| I wouldn't say that on a day like today. | ||
| I wouldn't say it. | ||
| There's a frustration that's coming through from him, a drunkenness that's coming through from Alex, and a boredom from everybody. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, I actually am beginning to think that Trump will not make it all the way to the race. | ||
| I think that they're hoping he doesn't at this point. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I think it's the same thing. | ||
| I think everybody on there... | ||
| So here's what I think happened, right? | ||
| They all thought Obama was a dictator, so they were like, let's get Trump and he'll be a dictator. | ||
| But then neither of them actually were dictators, right? | ||
| And now they're like, oh, they got rid of their old white guy. | ||
| Maybe we should get rid of our old white guy. | ||
| But like I said, I don't think that there's any possibility of... | ||
| No backbenches, nope. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| J.D. Vance. | ||
| Please. | ||
| So one thing that you can say about the world is that eggs are expensive, I guess. | ||
| I mean, eggs are pretty expensive. | ||
| No, they're not as expensive as Alex thinks. | ||
| Yeah, five years ago, eggs were $3 a carton. | ||
| They're like $10. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| I do a lot of the grocery shopping. | ||
| I went to the grocery shopping Sunday and I was like, Jesus Christ. | ||
| Yeah, steak's insane too. | ||
| Same deal. | ||
| I mean, everybody thinks I have all this money because media lies. | ||
| I'm just leaving the steak area alone. | ||
| I'm getting a hamburger. | ||
| I mean, these cheap steaks are like 20 bucks a pound now. | ||
| It used to be like $10. | ||
| Oh, here we got Owen having a few eggs here. | ||
| He's chugging $400 worth of eggs in this video. | ||
| Are you like Tim Walz? | ||
| Is that horse semen? | ||
| I probably couldn't afford this in today's economy. | ||
| I think that was a dozen eggs. | ||
| A dozen horse semen. | ||
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But, yeah. | |
| Man, steak and eggs, the staple of American diet, and the Democrats are going to price you out of it. | ||
| So a little bit of context. | ||
| There was a fake, like, photoshopped news story that people were posting about Tim Walz needing his stomach pumped because he drank a bunch of horse semen. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was the right-wing's attempt to do a couch fuck. | ||
| Oh, okay, I gotcha. | ||
| They were trying to make a joke, and it didn't really work as well. | ||
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No, the details are too poor. | |
| That stomach pump thing is the schoolyard thing that goes back generations. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That sort of rumor. | ||
| It's dumb. | ||
| No, if you want to do waltz, you have to go old school, Midwest. | ||
| How do you make fun of the coach? | ||
| So this is what they're playing on, and it will become a giant part of the rest of the show. | ||
| Yelling about horse semen. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| So get ready for that. | ||
| That sucks. | ||
| So inflation is real, but this is fucking stupid. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Eggs are not like $10 a carton. | ||
| This is just Alex failing to move on from the talking points from 2023 when egg prices surged and they became a meme for inflation. | ||
| The reality there was that inflation was a piece of that puzzle, but the biggest driver was a massive bird flu outbreak that Alex is still pretending wasn't real. | ||
| Prices hit about $4.75 a dozen in January 2023, and they've dropped back to a normal baseline since, but Alex still wants to use... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
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My entire life. | |
| I can't think of a year of consciousness, obviously. | ||
| I don't know what they were saying when I was two or three. | ||
| But I can't think of at least one year, at one point in time, somebody wasn't like, things are more expensive now! | ||
| No, that's definitely true. | ||
| There's some validity to, just because of COVID and the aftermath of that, that it is a little different than times in the past. | ||
| But it is a dynamic that is universal, that things are more expensive. | ||
| And we complain about it. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, if you want no inflation, we return to the barter system, right? | ||
| Because inflation is essentially a combination of profit and taxes, and they're balancing out in the long run. | ||
| But if you don't want any inflation, then it's like, this is worth one fucking chicken. | ||
| Give me a piece of wood, and you get a chicken. | ||
| End! | ||
| End of transaction! | ||
| That system is not immune from inflation, though. | ||
| Oh, that's true. | ||
| You give me that chicken, or I'll kill you. | ||
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I'll give you this balloon. | |
| So anyway, let's hear about some horse sion. | ||
| He's got three tampons up his ass. | ||
| I'm not going to forgive you for the board. | ||
| All right, let's get back to Trump. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Came in from Wuhan, the Wuhan labs, and I always said it, and it turned out to be right. | ||
| But had that not happened, we were set to start reducing debt. | ||
| By the way, he doesn't really do that, but they want to say that J.D. Vance... | ||
| Has sex with couches and wears eyeliner, so we'll just make up whatever we want to. | ||
| The difference is we'll tell you it's a joke. | ||
| I think he does things far worse than... | ||
| I mean, look, anybody who's wanting to show young boys with the tampons, I don't know. | ||
| No, he goes soft on pedophiles. | ||
| That's the legislation practice. | ||
| Yep, here we go. | ||
| And we were going to drill, and we were going to make so much money. | ||
| We were going to supply Europe with oil. | ||
| I had stopped the Russian pipeline. | ||
| Tim Walsh just wanted to supply Europe with horse semen. | ||
| Pipeline? | ||
| Pipeline of horse semen. | ||
| The COVID came in and... | ||
| New use for Keystone. | ||
| We really had to divert... | ||
| The horse semen pipeline. | ||
| Sorry, it was late, folks. | ||
| We apologize. | ||
| If I could do what we did, we would have had a 1929-type depression. | ||
| But the problem is, when Biden came in... | ||
| The point is, they want to make stuff up, we can make stuff up way worse, but we don't want to. | ||
| So just keep playing games. | ||
| Yeah, keep playing games. | ||
| So if I'm to understand Alex, he's saying that the left jokes about J.D. Vance fucking a couch, so he gets to joke about Walls drinking coarse semen. | ||
| I guess that makes sense, but where he loses me is the part where he says that the difference is that he'll be honest about how he's joking, but the left won't. | ||
| That's strange, because it raises the question of... | ||
| All the stuff he's saying is supposed to be taken seriously, or if it's all a joke, it obviously can't all be a joke. | ||
| Alex is joking about Walls having tampons up his ass because it intersects with a political issue that Alex is attacking. | ||
| Walls supports accommodation for trans man youth as an actual thing that Alex is very opposed to, and the tampon jokes are a way of him expressing that opposition. | ||
| In the case of JD Vance fucking a couch, there's no policy behind that joke. | ||
| It's not a way for people on the left to have fun while opposing Vance's Yeah. | ||
| stance. | ||
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He doesn't want to be responsible for his words or for how not funny these jokes are. | |
| That is a problem. | ||
| This isn't really funny. | ||
| It's just kind of what Alex does. | ||
| He talks shit that everyone he doesn't like is a pedophile. | ||
| He trivializes serious issues in order to use them as a weapon against his political targets. | ||
| That's not really what happened with Vance. | ||
| People made a joke that he fucked a couch, then Snopes put out a fact check that he didn't fuck a couch, then had to make an update because they couldn't prove that he hadn't. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It took on some momentum, and Vance tried to get in on the joke at a rally in Nevada, saying of his wife, I would call her up here to come and speak, but then I think I'd have to sleep on the couch tonight, so I'll leave her alone. | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| That joke bombed so people made more fun of him because of it. | ||
| It's all a total joke handling disaster on Vance's part. | ||
| And I think maybe Walls doesn't need to bring that joke up himself like he did in a rally, but it's not that deep. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| No, it's funny to fucking catch. | ||
| They fumbled this joke and Alex is trying to pretend that a lot of the bullshit that he does is a joke. | ||
| I would go so far as to say that... | ||
| I believe there are some nights at the classic Cigars and Stripes open, Mike, where you had 30, 30 young, hungry comics go up and all of them have a story about fucking a couch or something in their home that was not a human being. | ||
| I have been to rural Indiana with a friend of the show, Marty DeRosa. | ||
| Oh yeah, he's fucked a lot of couches, Mike. | ||
| Crushed with a couch fucking. | ||
| Everyone was on their feet. | ||
| Pillow me all day! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| So the other thing here, too, is that Alex pretends to be a serious show. | ||
| God chose him as a kid to fight the literal devil and lead the resistance in this time of globalist upheaval. | ||
| He's not a shitty roast comic just trying to get a couple punches in. | ||
| So if we're grading him by the rubric he's set for himself, this is embarrassing. | ||
| The horse semen jokes are beneath God's chosen warrior. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But they're bored. | ||
| Nobody's on comfortable ground. | ||
| It feels like everybody's kind of on shifting sands, not sure quite what to do. | ||
| These people can't deal with actual jokes. | ||
| They don't know how actual jokes work. | ||
| They're insane. | ||
| I think Alex is pretty comfortable in as much as he's got some Tito's. | ||
| You know, whatever. | ||
| What's the point of jokes when you got Tito's? | ||
| So, Trump brought up COVID in terms of economic stuff in that last clip. | ||
| And that's all fine. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But when he starts talking about it in terms of medical stuff, we're in trouble. | ||
| Many more people died during his administration of COVID than during my administration, and we really got the brunt of it. | ||
| Oh, God, please don't defend your shots. | ||
| This is the only downer with Trump. | ||
| More people died because of the vaccine. | ||
| He's learned to shut up about it. | ||
| Just give me a break, Trump. | ||
| And the cult members are like, don't criticize him. | ||
| No, I'm not a cult. | ||
| I love Trump. | ||
| He's pigheaded. | ||
| He wanted me to be wrong. | ||
| He tried all the therapeutics. | ||
| They lied to him. | ||
| But just don't tell me how good the shots are. | ||
| He's not doing this. | ||
| Hispanic American. | ||
| We're so incredible. | ||
| And it's like 99% of the deaths happened in hospitals. | ||
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Yeah, please don't do it, Trump. | |
| We'll jump off a cliff here. | ||
| To a giant ocean of horse semen with Tim Walz. | ||
| Imagine drowning in a sea of horse semen with Tim Walz. | ||
| At least you'd have plenty of tampons. | ||
| What? | ||
| That doesn't make sense! | ||
| Here's your tampons. | ||
| Well, thank you. | ||
| I've got my tampon. | ||
| Feeling nice and safe and secure now. | ||
| I feel really good and clean. | ||
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Biden might need a tampon. | |
| Maybe that's the reason. | ||
| Am I discriminating? | ||
| The men's restrooms here don't have tampons? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Who can I talk to around here? | ||
| Because I actually feel like when I walk into the men's room and there's not a healthy supply of tampons... | ||
| Well, this building is so old, it's an old Microsoft building. | ||
| There's tampon dispensers in the women's bathrooms. | ||
| Well, yeah, and not the men's. | ||
| And do you realize how discriminatory that is? | ||
| Yeah, and I'm actually... | ||
| Well, you probably shouldn't admit this on air, Alex, actually, because they're going to be coming for you now. | ||
| Oh my god, I just committed a felony? | ||
| So you might notice that they cut the audio of the interview at the end there. | ||
| They were talking over it and then they just cut away from it. | ||
| And I think that's because Owen and Alex's bit was really running on its last legs. | ||
| There was no gas in that tank. | ||
| And I think, and by that I mean I very much... | ||
| Yeah, I will say that it is unfortunate. | ||
| But I do feel empathy for being disillusioned by politicians not living up to the standards that you hoped they would. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's so interesting to me, though, the way that there's this, like, okay, tech didn't work. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Shit fucked up. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now it's starting. | ||
| Oh, no, we're bored. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| He might say stuff that is really a problem for us, so let's just talk about jizz over it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I just feel like the world just needs to understand we could just not do it. | ||
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We'd all just be like, nope. | |
| We don't have to be in a world. | ||
| We can create a better future. | ||
| We could. | ||
| We could just do it. | ||
| We have to believe that. | ||
| We could just do it, man. | ||
| So Trump starts talking about oil. | ||
| Oh, we're fucked. | ||
| And Alex is so bored. | ||
| But they went in and they terminated it. | ||
| And I'll get it going very quickly because... | ||
| Not only is it big for Alaska, I mean, you talk about economic development, that for the United States, I mean, that is, they say, bigger than Saudi Arabia or the same size. | ||
| We have a strategic oil supply. | ||
| We need a strategic horse semen supply. | ||
| Jesus, man. | ||
| He's going to drain it like Biden. | ||
| You're beating a dead horse's semen. | ||
| Yeah, it's incessant. | ||
| I think one of the reasons I... | ||
| I have some of these clips in here. | ||
| Just to really drive home how much horse semen talk there is. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| No. | ||
| You know, one of the fun things about humor I've always enjoyed are those little details that you could really only kind of pick up through just constant repetition. | ||
| But just the simplest thing. | ||
| A K sound is funnier than an S sound. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Couch fucker is always going to be funnier than horse semen. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just how words work, man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, it's weird. | ||
| I'm not saying there's a good reason for it. | ||
| Break down the craft. | ||
| I'm not going to do that. | ||
| I'm just saying that the k sound is going to be more responsive than the s sound. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's just weird. | ||
| I think it is interesting, too, because a lot of the jokes that were around J.D. Vance and the couch. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know, there are things like, you know... | ||
| J.D. Vance on the couch is a show I would watch. | ||
| A slip, you know, a plastic cover on the couch being like a condom. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Some riffs on change always being under the cushions. | ||
| There you go, yeah. | ||
| There's a lot of places you take this. | ||
| Relatable stuff. | ||
| The A to B to C, you know, you go A to C. Alex is going A to, like, L. There's just weird things like jumping off a cliff into horse semen. | ||
| What? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why? | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Does he do that? | ||
| It's not good humor. | ||
| I mean, I even... | ||
| But even then, like, the problem is ultimately... | ||
| You know, I get if we're in the 90s, people are like, tampons! | ||
| Women bleed! | ||
| Gross! | ||
| Ah! | ||
| But now it's like, oh, tampons are fine. | ||
| Everybody has... | ||
| They're fine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can use them for all kinds of stuff. | ||
| It seems a little... | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| It's just cotton and shit. | ||
| So, um... | ||
| Elon... | ||
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Yeah? | |
| Starts talking a little bit about climate change. | ||
| Oh, that's good. | ||
| And how it's real. | ||
| That's... | ||
| Alex is really... | ||
| He can't handle that. | ||
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Uh-oh. | |
| So he has to yell over it and kind of just... | ||
| Pretend that this isn't happening. | ||
| My estimate would be, you know, a little more aggressive than that, but it's not the sort of, like, we're all going to die in five years stuff. | ||
| That's obviously BS. | ||
| But, I mean, my view is, like, if you just look at sort of the pause per million that increments every year, you know, you get sort of two or three pause per million every year of CO2. | ||
| It makes trees grow faster. | ||
| The sea hasn't come up. | ||
| It's bullcrap. | ||
| Back when, like, possums weighed 400 pounds and armadillos weighed two tons, CO2 was like 100 times higher. | ||
| It's good. | ||
| You want it. | ||
| We end up like Mars. | ||
| Thank God we found all this and God gave it to us. | ||
| There's a lot of estimates. | ||
| We'd be losing the atmosphere right now. | ||
| It's like right on time we found all this. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| Like, just existing in a thousand years. | ||
| Jim Walls found something else. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Oh, boy. | ||
| So, you know, there's just inconvenient moments that I feel like Alex would know might come up if he believed in the real versions of these people existing, and he doesn't. | ||
| So he's kind of just... | ||
| Left to, well, I'll cover this up. | ||
| I'll yell over this. | ||
| We'll talk over this. | ||
| I'll talk about semen over this. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| And then it just becomes like, why even care about what's happening in the interview? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Let's just talk. | ||
| Because they're not saying anything important! | ||
| Or valuable! | ||
| Because they're bored, and Alex realizes he's got to pick it up. | ||
| Yeah, you got to get a better solar panel, and it's getting there. | ||
| And so I'm all about it. | ||
| But it is a decentralized government power. | ||
| I want it on the top of my house or on the car. | ||
| They were... | ||
| They already got it. | ||
| I've talked to people. | ||
| They were concepting that back in the 90s. | ||
| They had solar-powered cars. | ||
| It's like the guy in Brazil got the cure for cancer. | ||
| They blew his airplane up. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, they got it, okay? | ||
| They got all of it. | ||
| My dad was like in a government project out of high school. | ||
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Of course he was. | |
| In high school. | ||
| And they already had CD-ROMs 25 years before they were out. | ||
| Cancer is what? | ||
| A trillion dollar industry for the... | ||
| Yeah, they don't want the cures out there. | ||
| Because these elites stay in power. | ||
| They're in the way of progress. | ||
| Instead, we're living less now. | ||
| And the world population is actually going down now because they're murdering us. | ||
| Let's go back to Trump. | ||
| And again, we're going to go and join Nick Shordor. | ||
| And others, and take X comments here coming up in a few minutes, but Trump got on 45 minutes late because of DDoS attacks. | ||
| Elon said, I believe it. | ||
| We're under him all the time. | ||
| We'll be taking your comments coming up. | ||
| Back to Trump. | ||
| Very fast. | ||
| That sounds bad. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Sounds rough. | ||
| See, I guess the elites. | ||
| Are keeping this magic technology from everybody, but not Elon Musk, the richest person in the world, and Donald Trump, who is a billionaire, who used to be president. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Not those people. | ||
| No, they're not elites. | ||
| They would have to be in deep with this cover-up. | ||
| Right? | ||
| I mean, I don't know how the word elite still has meaning to these people. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It's right in front of their face. | ||
| That man you called the richest man in the world. | ||
| That's elite. | ||
| It's elite territory. | ||
| Yeah, that's like being, oh, no, no, no. | ||
| Just because he's the king doesn't mean he's an elite. | ||
| No, that is the definition. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It gets you in that elite club. | ||
| The whole thing. | ||
| I also would wonder what kind of magic technology Elon has access to and still gets... | ||
| Screwed up by a DDoS attack. | ||
| You know, I think that's the thing that really sucks. | ||
| The thing that really sucks about this interview isn't that all of these people exist, which does suck. | ||
| It is that now I know for sure that Elon Musk goes to bed and is like, man, I wish I could do blank. | ||
| Like, you're the richest man in the world, and you whine. | ||
| All the time. | ||
| I wish I could help the government eliminate waste. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Buy a country! | ||
| A country will let you buy it! | ||
| Probably. | ||
| I bet they would! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But you know what he can't do is make an interesting fucking interview. | ||
| No! | ||
| And so Alex just starts rambling about how great Trump is. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Let me just say this. | ||
| Can you imagine Kamala on here for hours? | ||
| She would be like repeating the same idiotic stuff. | ||
| And could not even talk. | ||
| Because she's just talking. | ||
| She's just giving a script. | ||
| Wait, she'd say the same things as Trump? | ||
| Well, Trump's meandering all over the place. | ||
| Like, you're actually hearing the real guy. | ||
| Like, say what you want about him. | ||
| Like, this is a real dude. | ||
| Like, this is not, this is not, you know. | ||
| No, this is a real conversation. | ||
| I mean, we're basically just listening in to the conversation of the most powerful men in the world. | ||
| And being bored. | ||
| It sucks. | ||
| It is trash. | ||
| He called me. | ||
| He's always like, how's your family? | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| And I'm like, I don't want to talk about me. | ||
| Let's talk about how you got traitors in your administration. | ||
| He's like, well, okay, tell me. | ||
| But then he kind of gets, okay, I'm taking notes. | ||
| And I would flip out over it. | ||
| But he thinks of himself in charge, which is great. | ||
| He's calling you to make you feel good. | ||
| It's not even a pat on the head. | ||
| He's trying to give energy. | ||
| To people. | ||
| Because that's the thing that's free is a leader giving people love. | ||
| He sees that as currency that he's printing when he does it. | ||
| Hundreds of calls a day. | ||
| And so he would call other foreign leaders and companies and say, bring your jobs here. | ||
| They would do it because CEOs don't get presidents calling. | ||
| And then France said, hey, we're not going to let your dishwashers in here. | ||
| Trump said, fine, 100% tariff on wine next week. | ||
| Oh, great, we'll let your dishwashers in. | ||
| And suddenly we were doubling dishwasher sales because Europe let it in. | ||
| It's real simple. | ||
| They're not working for us. | ||
| Dishwashers. | ||
| That's what Trump's explaining. | ||
| It's so easy. | ||
| He's like, we'll buy French dishwashers. | ||
| We'll buy German dishwashers. | ||
| We'll buy German cars. | ||
| But none of you don't let us in the market. | ||
| You know why that clip sucked? | ||
| It needed chase. | ||
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It really did. | |
| That was Coach McGurk without Brendan. | ||
| It really did. | ||
| Talking about fucking French dishwashers and how Trump calls you and asks how your family's doing? | ||
| Yep, 100%. | ||
| It's missing its counterpart. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| There's just no arguing with that. | ||
| I don't understand how, I mean, of all the late career renaissances that could happen, a two-man act of them just going on the road. | ||
| And what's fucking tragic is we know that Chase is just in the other room. | ||
| Right there! | ||
| There's a mic somewhere. | ||
| Oh my god, just, oh, you guys gotta know what you've got! | ||
| You can't have Harrison sitting there. | ||
| Get rid of Harrison! | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| No, you need Chase to be fascinated. | ||
| Of course! | ||
| Chase is interested in what you have to say. | ||
| Harrison is bored because he thinks you're not enough of a Nazi. | ||
| Yeah, and he knows that you're full of shit. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Chase is at least pretending to not know. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| So there's a couple stories that Alex is combining here in order to make Trump sound better. | ||
| Partially, I think, is due to the fact that Alex doesn't remember any of this shit anyway. | ||
| So the first part is dishwashers. | ||
| In late 2020, the Trump administration rolled back regulations about water and energy efficiency standards for a newly created category of dishwasher called the fast dishwasher. | ||
| He had turned niche appliance complaints into a campaign issue, and the idea that dishwashers were caught up in red tape was one of the rallying cries. | ||
| Oh, you never let those dishwashers. | ||
| No dishwashers left behind. | ||
| The Americans deserve to wash dishes. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And the government just won't let them. | ||
| Education system's on fire. | ||
| Get dishwashers. | ||
| So as it turns out, this was a problem that really didn't need fixing, and dishwashers worked pretty well, even with energy and water efficiency regulations in place. | ||
| This is just kind of an odd issue. | ||
| The second part is France. | ||
| In late 2019, France was putting a new tax in place that primarily affected tech companies like Facebook and Google. | ||
| This was a tax that existed for digital companies, so specifically it's not something that applied to dishwasher manufacturers. | ||
| An investigation found that U.S. companies were disproportionately affected by this because most of these companies, like Facebook, are U.S.-based. | ||
| So in retaliation for them putting in this tax, Trump decided to threaten some giant tariffs against French exports like wine and cheese. | ||
| Essentially, Trump was using the power of U.S. trade relations with our allies to protect giant tech companies like Google, who Alex believes work for the devil. | ||
| Alex's story doesn't make a lot of sense, but his version of this, this fake version where Trump is defending the dishwasher industry, kind of makes him sound better. | ||
| So I think I understand why Alex would go with this, but it's a bunch of bullshit. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I would probably go with he's defending the honorable dishwasher from the French as opposed to the he was paid a lot of money by rich people to threaten the French to make them make more money. | ||
| And the particular rich people that he's talking about are the globalist enemies like Facebook and Google. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
|
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So Trump is on behalf of Alex's enemies threatening trade relations with an ally. | |
| Okay, now I'm going to throw this out there. | ||
| Because it's something that I had not considered up until this very moment. | ||
| Is it possible that we have been laboring under the delusion of a god and devil for all of the human race, as opposed to a nationalism-based god and devil? | ||
| Is there the devil of the United States, who you would prefer to the devil of France? | ||
| Each country has a devil? | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Like, oh, sure. | ||
| The devil you know in a very literal sense. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm having a hard time processing this because... | ||
| Any number of reasons? | ||
| Well, when you were like, are we laboring under the delusion that it's a humanity devil? | ||
| I was like, I think he's about to say, is there a dishwasher devil? | ||
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I bet I just kept imagining a dishwasher with horns. | |
| See, this is the problem with extemporaneous speaking. | ||
| I can't get punch-up in the moment, man. | ||
| All this fact-checking shit, get it out of the way. | ||
| Give me instant punch-up so my bits will be better. | ||
| And then the dishwasher was opening to say, like, a trick. | ||
| The dishwasher's tricking you. | ||
| I don't know how a dishwasher would trick you. | ||
| How a dishwasher would trick you. | ||
| It's all clean. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's the truth. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| No, this is where jet drive goes. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So let's get back to Trump. | ||
| They try to, and they fail. | ||
| Let's go back to Trump. | ||
| But they always pick a judge and a jury, and they use the local DAs. | ||
| Yeah, Trump should be talking about his persecution more. | ||
| But it shows what an optimist he is. | ||
| He's not even talking about himself, Harrison. | ||
| Well, he's got the classic sense of noblesse oblige, right? | ||
| The obligation of the nobles. | ||
| The idea, back when you had nobles, was like, all right, you get to open a castle, you get to be fed, you don't have to work, but when the invasion comes, it's your ass in the armor with the sword going out and putting your life on the line to defend us. | ||
| It was an obligation. | ||
| The nobles got all these privileges. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You can be an aristocrat, which means you lead from the front. | ||
| Right. | ||
| What? | ||
| Say that again in French. | ||
| Noblesse oblige. | ||
| I don't even know. | ||
| I think it's Latin. | ||
| But, yeah, it's the obligation of the nobles. | ||
| It's the obligation the nobles are supposed to feel for the people under them because, you know, when it was the king of England and he had all the power, if England did well, he did well. | ||
| It was just, you know, he had no incentive to not to sell out his country. | ||
| And as soon as they quit doing that, things got corrupt. | ||
| Yeah, it's French, and it's noblesse oblige. | ||
| And it's generally an idea that is looked upon by history as bullshit. | ||
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What? | |
| Yes! | ||
| Do you mean this concept of noblesse oblige while owning human lives is not necessarily the case? | ||
| It generally was a way that the nobles would justify the abuse that they enacted on the people below them. | ||
| Because it would be worse for them if they weren't abused. | ||
| If they weren't such good people, they would be being abused by bad people. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's a situation that thankfully we never find ourselves in ever again after that. | ||
| It's so fucking funny to hear Harrison being like, you know, Trump's got noblesse oblige. | ||
| That should have gotten him. | ||
| See, see, this is nice. | ||
| This is nice because I like having proof that the Christian God isn't real because that's a lightning bolt. | ||
| That's a lightning bolt. | ||
| It's basically a peasant being. | ||
| Yeah, but a peasant who has spent his entire life being like, we need to get rid of all feudal lords! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But this one will totally get my back. | ||
| See, again, lightning bolt. | ||
| If there was a god, lightning bolt. | ||
| This feudal lord is so good. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| If the situation came up, he would defend me. | ||
| You have to fucking convert to Shintoism. | ||
| That is what has to happen, because what you believe in is wrong. | ||
| This is what happens when you get really bored, it turns out. | ||
| Yeah, I bet. | ||
| So Alex is a little bored when the topic of Israel comes up. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He is so... | ||
| Anti-Israel. | ||
| And she's bad for both. | ||
| Biden actually did something that was impossible. | ||
| Both sides hate him. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Both sides. | ||
| That was a hard thing to do. | ||
| Unification. | ||
| Yeah, no, no. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Folks, we already have cancer cures. | ||
| We already have free energy. | ||
| Get out of the way, Obama. | ||
| Get out of the way, Rockefeller. | ||
| Move, bitch. | ||
| Get out the way. | ||
| Get out the way, bitch. | ||
| Move out the way. | ||
| But he's black. | ||
| Oh, he's cool. | ||
| How are you doing? | ||
| It's all bullshit. | ||
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This is very sad. | |
| Relying on the ludicrous song again. | ||
| David Rockefeller's dead. | ||
| Obama's not president. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| This is just... | ||
| You gotta update your game. | ||
| I mean, look, it's the end of a long day. | ||
| I understand, but this is just grim. | ||
| So Alex begins to get a little pissed off at himself. | ||
| But not really at himself. | ||
| I misspoke. | ||
| I mean, it's subconsciously at himself. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| The Biden thing is very interesting. | ||
| People just found him to be incompetent. | ||
| And when I debated him, I was like, is this for real? | ||
| Yeah, it was just absurd. | ||
| But I think there are some grand projects that we could do. | ||
| I mean, I think... | ||
| Yeah, grand projects. | ||
| We could build a base on the moon. | ||
| We need a new pyramid. | ||
| Big grand projects. | ||
| It was one time. | ||
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Oh, space costs money. | |
| What are you talking about? | ||
| It's unlimited money. | ||
| It's what we want to do. | ||
| It creates jobs. | ||
| Like, oh, let's kill old people. | ||
| No, you take care of them. | ||
| It creates jobs. | ||
| It doesn't cost you. | ||
| The pie is unlimited. | ||
| It's a non-zero-sum game. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| It's so easy to understand this. | ||
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I'm really getting pissed. | |
| Who? | ||
| I mean, do you want giant public works projects to create pyramids and get us to the moon and take care of the elderly? | ||
| No, you don't want that. | ||
| That's antithetical to your belief system. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
|
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Yeah! | |
| You just want... | ||
| What? | ||
| I don't... | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| But he's mad! | ||
| I think that's what it is, right? | ||
| They can't say what they want because if they say what they say they want, they realize that it's evil. | ||
| Well, it's the other side. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's the dreaded communism that they've been screaming about forever. | ||
| I want the stuff that I want without having to... | ||
| Deal with you guys who say I can't, like, I want, yes, I want your socialist utopia, but I also want to call people the N-word. | ||
| If you allow me to do one, I'll let you have the other one. | ||
| And it's like, that's not how it works, man. | ||
| That's not how any of this works. | ||
| It's an illusion of an offer anyway. | ||
| No, it's bullshit. | ||
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So... | |
| Trump talks about how he had a big plan and that was the right to try. | ||
| And so that's like, you know, if you want to try ivermectin, if you're sick, go for it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Do it. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So like unapproved drugs by the FDA. | ||
| You can still like, hey, as long as you know what you're getting into, fuck it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Take some of this. | ||
| Go for it. | ||
| Who gives a shit? | ||
| You can't trust anybody. | ||
| So Alex is in favor of that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now this is a big problem. | ||
| Because listen to the way that Trump describes this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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And then I'll explain why Alex needs to be mad. | |
| People would go to other countries because you couldn't use this, the product, even if they thought it worked, because it's going through the FDA. | ||
| I got it approved where you can, you basically, you look, nobody wanted, the doctors didn't want it because of the liability. | ||
| The country didn't want it, our country, because they didn't want to get through it. | ||
| These are people terminally ill. | ||
| The insurance companies didn't want it. | ||
| And the pharmaceutical companies, nobody wanted it. | ||
| I got everybody into a room, and we came up with an agreement that you won't get sued. | ||
| And also, they didn't want it on their record. | ||
| If somebody's terminally ill and they die after taking a drug, they didn't want that on their record. | ||
| So we set a separate list so it wouldn't count as a negative. | ||
| And as you know, we got it done. | ||
| This is all great. | ||
| Trump's all about solutions. | ||
| But he's not exposing the Democrats. | ||
| Okay, so this is exactly the problem that Alex has with vaccine liability protection. | ||
| This is the exact same issue with the insurance companies and people won't take any risk, even if it is potentially in the public good. | ||
| And that's why the government needs to have these things. | ||
| It's so evil for the vaccine stuff. | ||
| Apparently not for Trump. | ||
| Hey, we're not going to sue you. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| You have liability protection for your ivermectin. | ||
| It is so funny to listen to that clip from their points of view all mixed in together. | ||
| Because it is like every little detail about all of that story can be traced back to all the problems. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, yeah. | ||
| It makes sense if you have all of these insurance companies and all of these people and all of that stuff and they're just like, well, I don't care if these people live or die because it's just going to cost us more money. | ||
| So if you find a way to make these people live or die and cost us no money, then fine. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, it's not complicated for them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| And this can be a sort of, I think, a social good and a social bad. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Circumstantially. | ||
| It's complicated. | ||
| But what's not complicated is that Alex should be opposed to this. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that he doesn't conceptually understand his own beliefs. | ||
| Of course he doesn't. | ||
| Because if you did have the problem that Alex professes to have with vaccine protections and stuff, he should hear this and be like, this is fucking evil. | ||
| They're covering up death all over the place. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He should have the exact same problem, but he doesn't. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He doesn't give a shit. | ||
| But he's spent the last 30 years of his life having no beliefs, but reactionary beliefs. | ||
| What is going on? | ||
| And then I respond to it. | ||
| So he's had that luxury, but now it feels like... | ||
| He's going to have to rely on his own belief system if he wants to move forward, I guess, because he's been abandoned by everybody who would... | ||
| But I think he's trashed his ability to do that. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| There's nothing here. | ||
| And he doesn't even know what his belief system is, because he's so used to reaching out for a reaction, he's never had to find something within, if that makes sense. | ||
| The crisis that comes from watching Elon and Trump talk is deep. | ||
| Actually, I mean, honestly, it does make me a little bit frustrated with the media for my entire life. | ||
| Maybe, realistically, they should have just all broadcast Trump unvarnished, unfiltered, and unedited for as long as he wants to go. | ||
| Because eventually... | ||
| No human being will not get to a point where they go, oh, this is stupid. | ||
| You'll get bored. | ||
| You'll get bored. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We promise you'll get bored. | ||
| So Alex is low on energy because the night is wearing on and they started late. | ||
| And meanwhile, New York's spending massive resources prosecuting you. | ||
| Yeah, let's talk about the prosecution of Trump. | ||
| Yeah, let's get on the offense here a little bit. | ||
| Good job, Elon. | ||
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By the way, screw everybody that's been attacking Elon, man. | |
| You were! | ||
| This is nonsense. | ||
| You were attacking him earlier! | ||
| Fuck everybody who's attacking me. | ||
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He's cool. | |
| He's cool. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Oh, he's cool. | ||
| I like this guy. | ||
| Fuck you if you don't like him. | ||
| I like the idea. | ||
| I like the idea that he and I can have the same... | ||
| Here's what I could say. | ||
| Elon Musk is a person who takes on too many tasks at the same time and thus cannot complete any of them with efficiency or quality. | ||
| And Alex would be like, fuck you! | ||
| You hate him! | ||
| Now, admittedly, Elon is a person who takes on too many tasks at the same time. | ||
| But that's not a criticism. | ||
| It's an excuse or a criticism. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| I'm not saying he shouldn't do that. | ||
| I'm saying that... | ||
| That is a good thing he does, which is why he fails, which is what... | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| So, Elon Musk says this, and I think this could be trouble. | ||
| I'm just trying to tell people my honest opinion, and I haven't been really active in politics before, and I'm just trying to point out that my track record historically has been moderate, if not moderate, slightly left. | ||
| And so this is to people out there who are in the moderate camp to say, I think you should support Donald Trump for president. | ||
| And I think it's actually a very important junction in the road, and we're in deep trouble if it goes the other way. | ||
| Well, I want to thank you. | ||
| So you remember back at the beginning of this, Elon was saying that, you know, I'm just having to catch some vibes here, you know? | ||
| Undecided voters, maybe you can see what Trump is really like and make up your mind. | ||
| No. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| That was bullshit. | ||
| You knew that was bullshit, and you were pretending that in order to eventually get to this point. | ||
| This was the goal all along. | ||
| You're trying to sell Trump on people, and this seems illegal. | ||
| Or at the very least, this seems like a huge campaign contribution that Elon is making to Trump, and it might get him in trouble with the FEC. | ||
| Elon owns this platform. | ||
| He's doing a giant live stream with a guy who's running for president and expressly says at the end that his intention in doing this stream is to convince people to vote for Trump. | ||
| This is less of an interview than it is a promotional appearance. | ||
| So anyway, this group and Citizens United, they filed a complaint to the FEC alleging that this was an in-kind contribution and that could be a problem. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Their case argues that fixing the technical glitches during the stream constitutes a corporate contribution on the part of Twitter, which they argue does not qualify as a press entity for the purposes of this interview. | ||
| This is a venue where the owner of the company is repeatedly and explicitly advocating for his viewers to vote for a specific candidate, and he's devoting the resources and personnel of his company to facilitate the spreading of that message. | ||
| At very least, this is deeply corrupt in a way that Alex should have a real problem with. | ||
| He used to complain all the time about how Twitter had a left-leaning bias, and nothing that happened back then was even close to this extreme. | ||
| This is comically election meddling or whatever, if Alex's standards mean anything. | ||
| Yep, yep. | ||
| I mean, I say this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| More of this election meddling. | ||
| I don't think this is going to meddle in the way that they want it to go. | ||
| No, I think this might have been a little bit of a dud. | ||
| I appreciate this type of corruption. | ||
| I think, if anything, this probably deflates a little bit of Trump's mystique among some of his fans. | ||
| But I do think it'd be really, really, really funny if Musk gets in trouble for this. | ||
| No, I mean, it is fascinating. | ||
| It is so fascinating because, like, when Trump is not... | ||
| Packaged by their enemy, right? | ||
| When Trump is packaged by their hero, Elon Musk, they can't blame Elon Musk for Trump sucking. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or when he's at the RNC and he goes on for like two fucking hours. | ||
| It is what it is. | ||
| He is in charge. | ||
| This is who he is. | ||
| His name is in lights behind him. | ||
| This is who he is. | ||
| It sucks. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Oh, well. | ||
| So Alex has checked the fuck out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Towards the end of this. | ||
| Good call. | ||
| This was a great moment in bullying history. | ||
| You're going to love this. | ||
| It was a pretty good interview, though. | ||
| I give him an A-plus now. | ||
| Well, again, I think this interview is more towards fence-sitters, undecided voters, moderates. | ||
| That's where this interview... | ||
| And it scared the left. | ||
| They tried to stop it. | ||
| The Harris campaign is already in panic mode, demanding people donate to her. | ||
| So, yes. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Which is, why are they so scared, Harrison? | ||
| Well, you know, the way they're framing it is Elon, the richest man in the world, is doing what he can to control America. | ||
| I mean, it's all absurd ridiculousness. | ||
| But, you know, even just going back to the conversation about Elon Musk and people sort of ingratitude for what he's done, I just know, like, the crap we go through here, and then, you know, we're fine with it. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| We'll go through it. | ||
| We'll deal with all the crap that we're given that we don't even talk about on air, but the stuff that you know about is bad enough already. | ||
| And then you go on Twitter and people are calling you a shill and you sit there and go, why am I going through all this for people that don't even appreciate it? | ||
| But if you give up, we lose it all. | ||
| Let me see your glasses real quick. | ||
| These are the famous American psycho glasses. | ||
| That's right, David Koresh Jr. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| I like these. | ||
| I got pretty bad eyesight, don't I? | ||
| They're the real deal. | ||
| I'm going to get a fishbowl. | ||
| I like these. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| That is... | ||
| There is a poetry in that moment. | ||
| Because Harrison is complaining about how people don't appreciate him enough, and he is fighting for everyone, and that is totally fine. | ||
| But then, there's such ingrates showing up online and saying you're a shill, and in the middle of it, Alex takes his glasses. | ||
| I... | ||
| I... | ||
| Cut your glasses, nerd! | ||
| I think I would have to fight him. | ||
| It's so funny. | ||
| I mean, that power dynamic is so... | ||
| That's too far out of whack. | ||
| That's too far. | ||
| You can't allow somebody to just take your glasses. | ||
| Man, come on. | ||
| Especially when you're talking about how everyone appreciates you. | ||
| This is a weird science. | ||
| What is happening? | ||
| What is fucking going on? | ||
| It's good. | ||
| It's good stuff. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Also, you might notice Alex is giving Trump an A-plus now after being bored by this whole thing. | ||
| He's drunk enough not to remember at the beginning. | ||
| Hey, this is pretty good. | ||
| As an excuse to keep drinking, this wasn't bad. | ||
| Give me your glasses. | ||
| Jesus Christ, you can't let a man take your glasses. | ||
| Stand up for yourself, Harrison Smith. | ||
| I don't want you to stand up for yourself, and I'm saying stand up for yourself. | ||
| Yeah, it's hard to watch. | ||
| It's hard to watch. | ||
| This ends. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The stream itself ends. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I'm like, ooh, good. | ||
| Alex has got to go to bed. | ||
| Merciful. | ||
| He's in tough shape. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he jumps on the stream with Mario Nafal and Nick Sartor. | ||
| And I thought that this was perfect. | ||
| That's unreal. | ||
| Because he tries to take over the stream. | ||
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Of course. | |
| He just interrupts everybody. | ||
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He's shit-faced. | |
| And he's holding court. | ||
| But then the most magic moment happens. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Fake Elon Musk shows up. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Is any of this real? | ||
| Are you making all of this up? | ||
| I didn't watch the video. | ||
| I'm not on Twitter. | ||
| Is any of this real? | ||
| Is all of this in this room only? | ||
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Adrian Dittman and Alex. | |
| If you record all of these clips by yourself with a team of voice actors, that would make as much sense to me as this. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
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And even now, you know, the content cycle is not finished. | |
| It's barely begun. | ||
| People are going to now flip the space, share it far and wide. | ||
| There's probably going to be billions of impressions that will be generated. | ||
| No, you're right. | ||
| You're right, Adrian. | ||
| I'll shut up and I want you to speak, but you're right. | ||
| This was a mega digital rally. | ||
| The biggest thing Trump's done basically ever. | ||
| Can you speak to that? | ||
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Yeah, I mean, this is going to be felt everywhere because the more people are actually posting about this, now you'll see a next-level shift in the algorithm because the algorithm is always just controlled by the people and what they want to see. | |
| This is amazing. | ||
| Alex still kind of thinks this guy is Elon Musk. | ||
| So, in Alex's mind, what he has to believe, in order for this not just to be a weirdo who sounds like Elon Musk, he has to believe that Elon Musk got done Doing this interview with Trump, then jumped onto Mario Nafal's stream on his burner account, and is now talking to Alex about how big the interview that he just did is. | ||
| So that's psychotic, if that's what happened. | ||
| Everybody involved with everything that is going on in all of these conversations is out of their minds. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, there are... | ||
| I don't know what to say. | ||
| Get a job. | ||
| Or quit your job if you're Harrison. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, I worked coupons. | ||
| I sold hearing aids. | ||
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Sure. | |
| I've done all kinds of stuff. | ||
| Do one of those jobs if you start saying crazy shit like this. | ||
| I think if you were working at one of those office jobs and your boss took your glasses, I think you could sue him, right? | ||
| I mean, it's probably assault. | ||
| I mean, I've been fired from every test, so I don't know. | ||
| So we have one last clip here. | ||
| I think it just demonstrates how desperate Alex is to talk to Adrian Dittman. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The guy who sounds like Elon Musk. | ||
| Because it's got to be real or not real. | ||
| We can't exist in this liminal state of before the wave function collapses. | ||
| Like, we need to know! | ||
| So he's on this stream with these other guys. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he's like, I want to talk to you, dude. | ||
| Tell me it's him or not. | ||
| The Post's got like three million views now where a Washington Post reporter literally asked the press secretary if the Biden regime could intervene and stop Trump's interview with Elon Musk on X. Now, they've gotten to the point where they're ballsy enough to say this publicly, knowing that this is going to be broadcasted, please. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Let me be clear. | ||
| I did see it. | ||
| I wouldn't say... | ||
| They're desperate, not ballsy. | ||
| So they threatened Elon Musk today with the EU sanctions. | ||
| So that's not a sign of strength. | ||
| Why would they be scared of Elon Musk talking to Trump? | ||
| Let me ask Adrian that, or ask all your viewers, because I can get my answer. | ||
| But that is not a sign of strength, Adrian Dittman. | ||
| Does that sound like strength? | ||
| They want to arrest Elon Musk for interviewing Trump? | ||
| aren't we in a free country? | ||
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Well, I I don't know if Adrian heard that or not, but let's go to Kyle. | |
| You want to take that one? | ||
| Yeah, I'll take it. | ||
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Yeah, Kyle! | |
| Come on, Kyle! | ||
| What fucking celebrity do you sound like, Kyle? | ||
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Oh, my God. | |
| This is so stupid. | ||
| I find this so great. | ||
| There's something so amazing about this, like, just spiritually, the way that they were looking forward to this so much. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And how much of a letdown it is for Alex, very clearly, from early on. | ||
| Oh, right away. | ||
| Right away. | ||
| And then, progressively, the disappointment leading to him needing to censor shit, essentially, or else he was going to get into territory that he didn't even want to deal with. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then, fake Elon Musk sort of being the little cherry on top. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| There's something about this. | ||
| You know, it is... | ||
| Maybe it's just... | ||
| Genuinely, maybe it's just the fallacy of pot committed. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Everybody... | ||
| A huge argument was like, oh no, we gotta stick with Biden because... | ||
| And they're very reasonable. | ||
| But then once everybody realized that we're not pot committed, everybody felt a lot better. | ||
| And we're like, oh, well we can just do a different thing. | ||
| These people do not believe that they can do a different thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I think that the reality of Pot Committed is it's always sort of true, but it's also sort of not. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You're always going to have to fight your way. | ||
| It's not like you can just walk away. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You have to fight your way out of it. | ||
| You are likely going to be in a disadvantageous situation if you put a lot of chips into this pot and you walk away from it. | ||
| You're starting from a lesser position. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That happens. | ||
| And that is true of Alex. | ||
| It remains to be seen much in the same way as was the case with Biden. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It remains to be seen if you can take that chip in a chair, as they say in the poker world, and come back. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| Anyone can do it. | ||
| Are your chips enough? | ||
| Will you alienate too much of your audience? | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I think that Alex has a reason to be scared about that. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's interesting because I wonder how much is like... | ||
| People very fervently arguing positions that they really wish they didn't have to. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Because it's the internet and because it's 2024, everybody has to be like, I believe this! | ||
| That kind of thing. | ||
| But a lot of people don't believe it that strongly. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Neither does Alex. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he says that God chose him as a kid to do this. | ||
| You can't... | ||
| If Kamala Harris, before Biden had stepped down, was like... | ||
| As a child, God chose me to make sure that Biden doesn't drop out? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm not going to listen to her now. | ||
| No. | ||
| But she didn't say that. | ||
| No, she did not. | ||
| Alex says that shit about the nonsense that he puts out, which is why he might be more pot committed than a lot of other people. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, that's true. | ||
| I mean, maybe that's the thing, right? | ||
| The illusion for everybody with Biden was that you were pot committed, right? | ||
| Because that wasn't real. | ||
| They're pot committed to the illusion. | ||
| They cannot pivot to something real. | ||
| Because reality is their enemy in all aspects, I guess. | ||
| Right? | ||
| They don't have a good next hand. | ||
| They're just married to illusion. | ||
| I mean, honestly, this is very hard. | ||
| The episode we just did. | ||
| I find it hard to believe it happened. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| In multiple instances. | ||
| Yeah, like it feels fake because it doesn't feel like this could be reasonably done by human beings. | ||
| Well, the starting point of what's it like to get shot? | ||
| My ear has a lot of blood. | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| To the end point being fake Elon Musk, Alex desperately seeking his approval. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, yeah, of course, all that shit is surreal. | ||
| It could easily be in a comedy scene. | ||
| Where are any of you? | ||
| Where are you? | ||
| And not enough chase. | ||
| Not enough chase. | ||
| Because that's what makes it really funny. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| So anyway, we'll be back for another episode. | ||
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Oh boy. | |
| This happened and I think Alex... | ||
| The sooner he realizes he needs to not be pot-committed, the better for him. | ||
| For everybody. | ||
| In terms of his future. | ||
| For everybody. | ||
| This is a disaster. | ||
| This is horrific. | ||
| But we'll be back. | ||
| Until then, we have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I am the Mysterious Professor. | ||
| Woo! | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Woo! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Woo! | ||
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
| Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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