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March 8, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
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#907: March 6, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in on Alex's response to the Super Tuesday primaries.  As it turns out, Alex is out "on a secret mission," but still finds time to film a special report about Bohemian Grove.

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a
alex jones
09:03
d
dan friesen
35:27
j
jordan holmes
20:21
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steve quayle
00:02
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andy in kansas
00:03
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
and endure knowledge fight.
I need, I need money.
I need, I need, I need, I need.
andy in kansas
I love your world.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
From the air?
Did you see this?
jordan holmes
No, I did not.
dan friesen
Okay, so someone made a very, very detailed, it's most, a lot of the loop type downtown area.
Like, the buildings are all in great detail.
I saw this, but I thought it was pretty cool, and then I moved along.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Then, it came to my attention, thanks to a Block Club article, that the artist of this piece, Tanager George, I'm sorry if I...
Mispronounce the first name there, but they are a fan of ours.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Yeah, and so it was cool.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, what?
dan friesen
In the Block Club article, they gave us a nice shout-out.
jordan holmes
No, that is unreal.
dan friesen
It turns out, as, like, drawing this, they like to listen to our show.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
So thank you so much, Tanager or Tanager.
jordan holmes
That is...
dan friesen
I apologize.
Again, I'm not going to pronounce your name.
jordan holmes
That's just so goddamn cool.
unidentified
It is.
jordan holmes
It's so goddamn cool.
dan friesen
It is really cool, especially since I was like...
Oh, wow.
I had seen that.
I thought that was a really cool drawing.
Although, I will say, my house is not in the drawing.
I don't want to dox myself, but we're not in the area of Chicago that is covered by this drawing.
But still, cool drawing, and even cooler to know that we've got an artist fan out there.
jordan holmes
I know a lot of people in the real world that I've heard of are excited whenever they get mentioned by famous people or something like that.
That is the first time I've ever been, like, starstruck.
unidentified
It's so fucking cool.
dan friesen
Well, I'm glad you get to have that moment.
jordan holmes
It's fun, yeah.
dan friesen
But thank you for the kind words.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And always neat to see a surprise mention of yourself.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's really cool.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's really cool.
dan friesen
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is twofold, you know, taken care of.
I suppose it's not a bright spot so much as it's a bright spot and a dark spot.
We're fussing.
We're taking care of two puppies.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And then a third dog.
dan friesen
You already have two to begin with.
jordan holmes
And we already have two to begin with.
And when I say we, it's basically me doing everything.
dan friesen
Because her wife has a job.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
Like one that she's gone for.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's tough.
I mean, you know, one of the dogs eats eggs every night for dinner.
I have to make a dog scrambled eggs.
unidentified
It's supposed to.
jordan holmes
It eats better than I do and than I did in my 20s.
It's got really bad liver problems.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
And eggs are the solution to that?
jordan holmes
Apparently you need to eat scrambled eggs.
dan friesen
That's...
jordan holmes
Listen, I'm not a dog person who eats dog scrambled eggs.
I don't know.
dan friesen
This to me is not...
This does not make sense because I feel like people...
You know, they like...
Well, no, maybe...
Because you do use an egg in a lot of hangover remedies.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
So maybe it is good for the liver.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I'm trying to work the math out here.
jordan holmes
Hold on.
dan friesen
Yeah?
jordan holmes
Is that where we're...
That's our starting point for evidence of things being good for a liver.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Is whether or not it's an ingredient in a hangover.
dan friesen
Yeah, because a lot of times you'd hear about, like, you know, you get this, you know, fizzy liquid drink together.
Sure, sure, sure.
You drop an egg in there, raw egg, whip it up.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Boom, you're good.
jordan holmes
The hot sauce, the desert oyster, et cetera, yeah.
dan friesen
Yep, these, it's science.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
That sounds true.
dan friesen
This dog will be good as new in no time.
jordan holmes
It does sound right.
dan friesen
Yeah, give it some eggs.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, it's fun.
They're cute.
They're so cute.
dan friesen
What sort of dogs are they?
jordan holmes
Covered in poop.
Oh, everything.
They're all Westies.
Westies.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
All Westies.
dan friesen
A handful of Westies.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
A grip of Westies.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
There are easy...
The people tell you this.
There are breeds of dog that are easy.
You know, they're very nice.
Then there are Westies.
They're very much...
Giant rats that catch rats.
I guess that's what they are.
dan friesen
Yeah, I've never thought the ear dogs were too much of a handful, but I've never had to take care of them or anything.
jordan holmes
They're good now that they're older.
It's when the younger ones are...
dan friesen
A lot of energy.
jordan holmes
Covered in poop and pee.
dan friesen
Covered in poop, full of piss and vinegar.
jordan holmes
Covered in poop and pee, yeah.
But when I was young, if only.
dan friesen
How long you got these fellas?
jordan holmes
Full week.
dan friesen
That's not that bad.
jordan holmes
Nah, it's not too bad.
dan friesen
That's just a week.
jordan holmes
It's just a week.
dan friesen
When you said fostering, it made it seem like...
jordan holmes
I know, it made it seem like we're there for a long time.
We hope we're going to find a forever home.
dan friesen
No, your dog's sitting.
unidentified
Yes, I know.
dan friesen
Come on.
jordan holmes
We were just talking about over-traumatizing things.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
It's going to be short.
jordan holmes
It's going to be a short one.
dan friesen
It's going to be a minisode, if anything.
jordan holmes
Quick.
dan friesen
And the reason is this.
We were in the past on Monday, and so I wanted to do a present day episode, and we just had the midterms.
I keep saying midterms.
Before we started recording, I called it the midterms twice.
The primaries.
jordan holmes
Super Tuesday.
dan friesen
Super Tuesday is so big.
And so I spent a big chunk of time watching the news coverage of the mid...
Oh, I did it again.
The primaries.
jordan holmes
You were almost in charge of it, too.
dan friesen
Why is it?
Why is it that that is where my brain goes?
jordan holmes
Because these are almost not elections.
They almost don't count, right?
Like, everybody knows what's going on.
So you think of something important, like the midterms, I guess.
dan friesen
Yeah.
My brain.
It's strange.
jordan holmes
It's happening.
dan friesen
So I watched a fair amount of the news coverage on Super Tuesday, and I wanted to get Alex's...
Sense of it.
So I wanted to cover Alex's day after Super Wednesday coverage.
And it's disappointing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
dan friesen
He's not in studio.
So we get a little bit of special report from Alex and a little bit of a tease that maybe we'll be able to pay off on Wednesday.
But for today, it's going to be a short one.
If you're listening to this while you do laundry...
Find something else.
You're not going to make it through the whole cycle.
jordan holmes
You better have made a small amount of laundry.
dan friesen
If you're doing dishes while watching this, you better have very few dishes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Wait, what?
dan friesen
I don't know.
You just keep doing this.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
But keep listing things that need to be short.
unidentified
I was going to say, yeah.
dan friesen
I'm vamping.
jordan holmes
If you've got a rope, cut it in half.
dan friesen
Cut it in half.
jordan holmes
Cut it in half.
dan friesen
Measure twice.
Cut once.
Thomas Jefferson.
jordan holmes
Is that what we're doing?
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So we've got some new wonks to say hello to before we get into this.
So first, my right-wing father-in-law started doing Klaus Schwab impersonations a la Alex Jones at Christmas, and I was like, I got your ass.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Dustin.
Thanks for getting me hooked from your mom in Ohio.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Do you think that's a your mom joke or that's actually someone's mom?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
It's either cute.
I think it's cute either way.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
If it's about your mom joke, that's almost quaint now, right?
dan friesen
Yep.
Next, Moby.
Is Moby hungry?
Does Moby want breakfast?
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
You think that's about Moby?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
The actual Moby?
dan friesen
Definitely.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The guy who brought us porcelain?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And about eight albums that no one's ever listened to.
Next, Kitty followed you from guesting on Behind the Bastards because Jordan's contagious laughter and appreciation for Dan's big brain.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
It's not that big.
I keep calling primaries midterms.
jordan holmes
Ah, it's mid-primaries.
dan friesen
Next, Cameron McD, the rapper G. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you!
Next, AJ Impression.
Oh, that's a cue.
And this is a technocrat.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
But we got a stage note for Alex's impression.
Devin and Carter, if you were zombies, I would smash your guts out, but you're globalists, so I'll have to kill you politically.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
I have risen above my enemies.
I might quit tomorrow, actually.
I'm just going to take a little breaky now.
A little breaky for me.
And then we're going to come back.
And I'm going to start the show over.
But I'm the devil!
I've got to be taken over here!
Fuck you!
Fuck you!
I've got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your New World Order, and fuck the horse you rode in on, and all your shit!
Maybe today should be my last broadcast.
Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.
Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow, and you never see me again.
That's really what I want to do.
I never want to come back here again.
I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air.
I'll be better tomorrow.
dan friesen
Nah.
Not today either.
jordan holmes
He's not even there.
dan friesen
No, but he's recording himself while driving, which is unsafe at any speed.
jordan holmes
That really is unsafe.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
That's a real unsafe problem.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I'm going to be sitting here talking about the globalists.
While I drive on the fucking highway.
jordan holmes
It really is sometimes like, okay, everybody, I understand that we can all just act like this happens, but that's dangerous.
There could be a child somewhere.
dan friesen
It's dangerous.
And, I mean, he's a man who's prone to bouts of theatricality.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And that's not something you want behind the wheel.
jordan holmes
What if he's gesticulating wildly in the middle of a...
dan friesen
Or what if he decides to storm off set when he gets really mad?
jordan holmes
I will say.
If that's his final broadcast, that is a final broadcast.
Driving, and that's one more!
That's the way to do it.
dan friesen
Cliffhanger.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well...
dan friesen
You never know exactly what happened.
Good way to fake your death, doing a live special report from a car.
jordan holmes
I would, that's a great...
dan friesen
You get the people talking.
jordan holmes
Okay.
D.B. Cooper.
That's how Alex gets out of this whole thing.
dan friesen
A.E. Jones.
jordan holmes
That's what he's doing, alright?
He gets up there, he's doing his show, he says, we're doing this from the plane, and then he jumps from the plane, they explode.
He's obviously meeting up with Pregosian, who's the guy who did all of this.
He didn't actually get murdered by it.
Yeah, yeah, no, it makes sense.
dan friesen
Is that what D.B. Cooper was doing?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Okay.
Learn something every day on this show.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Take that with your laundry.
So, I was watching Super Tuesday, and I found it to be really weird.
It was weird to watch the news.
I think I mentioned this when I was watching primaries previously, but it is very strange to me, the tone that is struck by the news.
I was watching NBC News, so it's something that you would expect to be about as middle as you get.
Sure!
Just some kind of fucking news channel.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And there's a couple things that really stuck out to me.
One was they just have Trump liars on, and they just let them talk.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, they have, like, Jason Miller.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
More or less, like, you know, he might as well be Trump campaign guy.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
I think he is.
Might as well be Stephen Miller, yeah.
dan friesen
And he will just say trolly shit.
And nonsense.
And they just have to go along with it.
It's a choice to interview him.
And they make that choice.
jordan holmes
The news anchors are just like, wow.
dan friesen
There's too much that he's saying that's full of shit that they can't even really deal with it.
And he's saying it with a smirk.
And it's like, okay, well, we don't have time to fact check you saying there's a migrant invasion of the country.
And so this just stands on NBC News.
And it's...
It's irresponsible.
I found this to be, like, this isn't news.
This is, like, haphazard, like, presentation of dangerous material.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
dan friesen
I thought that was pretty bad.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
dan friesen
But it's almost to be expected because, you know, you want to have the image of fairness.
Right.
And so when one party is completely insane.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Being fair means broadcasting insane shit.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And that, I think, is a problem.
jordan holmes
I mean, what's funny about it is that it feels as though this was a hack that we all should have seen coming.
You know, like when we started watching the whole, like, climate change thing where it's always got to be two sides, we should have realized that the hack was just lose your fucking mind and then the other side has to come with you no matter what you do.
dan friesen
And most of the time they're going to be too caught up in trying to mitigate the damage of the most dangerous things you say that you sneak past all kinds of crazy shit.
jordan holmes
No, we should have, like, here's what we should have done, alright?
Around 1998...
Alright, we have the Democrats go on TV in arguments and they just go absolutely insane on climate change.
Like, here's what's going on.
They're secret billionaires.
They're gonna blow everybody up.
Climate change.
You know, just real go crazy.
dan friesen
They'd have to go crazier than that, even, in order for it to balance out.
jordan holmes
What would be the crazy version of that?
dan friesen
Here's the problem with that, is that the folks who are on the crazier side of the right are going to say that the people on the left are doing the crazy shit, whether they do it or not.
So the image that's presented by these people is like, no, the other side's just as insane as us.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is a good point.
dan friesen
And it's not accurate.
jordan holmes
No.
No, that's the problem with one side being able to lie and have no consequences for it.
dan friesen
Well, I think all sides kind of lie, but it is a different breed of lie.
It's a Westie of lies.
jordan holmes
That is a definite truth.
Nicely done.
dan friesen
Thanks.
So the other thing that I noticed was that early in the night, they were very desperate to make it look like Nikki Haley had a chance.
They were very much making it like, you know, she's got a chance at a couple of these states.
A couple of these states are looking pretty good.
And then as things came in, they're like, we always knew that she had no chance.
And it's like, what is happening?
I've been watching for a couple hours.
The tone has entirely changed.
And I don't know if it's just an investment in, this isn't going to be exciting if we all go in knowing she's screwed.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And that to me felt really dirty.
jordan holmes
So, okay.
Here's the thing.
You're in this scenario as an anchor.
Obviously, you've got pressure from your bosses to make this a race, because a race is more interesting.
And then there's also just pressure on you for ratings.
You want to be popular.
dan friesen
I think it's also probably more fun.
jordan holmes
It's always more fun to do that stuff.
And you don't know for sure, because you can never know for sure in advance.
We've all seen surprises.
Maybe, maybe this time, even though we know Trump is going to win all of them, maybe you can kind of talk yourself into it.
So you're not really lying to people when you're like, this could be a real bout!
We could have Mike Tyson versus this baby could be a close matchup!
dan friesen
It felt like they definitely changed, though.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Oh, Mike Tyson just murdered a baby!
dan friesen
And it felt like afterwards they were like, we never thought that baby had a chance.
We never thought that baby!
jordan holmes
Listen, well, we wanted to think the baby had a chance.
dan friesen
Some scouts have been saying the baby has a mean right hook.
If that hook lands...
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
It was strange.
And then the other thing was that they had people at Mar-a-Lago, and there was a party going up.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
And so, like, it's nuts.
When they go to Mar-a-Lago, there's just people who are like, boop, boop, boop.
Might as well be lampshades on the head.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's crazy.
No, we're in full-on let-them-be-cake territory of...
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then...
They had one person outside Nikki Haley's headquarters in South Carolina.
And when I mean outside, I mean on a dark street.
There was nobody there.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And she seemed confused.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Like, well, the campaign is not doing anything tonight.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And they kept giving updates that I felt were dystopian.
Because she's standing there on this dark street.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then she's like, well, we have sources inside the campaign that say people are very happy.
They're listening to music.
No, I don't buy that.
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
jordan holmes
Did you kill them?
Did you guys execute them when we weren't looking?
dan friesen
I just imagined all of Nikki Haley's team just sitting around.
unidentified
They've all decided to go to a farm upstate.
jordan holmes
They're all going to have a great time up there.
If they're going to be with all of your other pets that you've never seen.
dan friesen
So this is fairly early on.
And then a couple hours later, Trump has won everything.
The night's still going on, but it's bad.
Back to this lady on the dark street.
She said that sources have told her that Hayley's team are jubilant.
jordan holmes
Jubilant.
dan friesen
Jubilant!
jordan holmes
Excited beyond reason.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
They have just had a massive ketamine breakthrough.
dan friesen
It was dark.
It was, I mean, the street and the tone of it.
Just very much.
I found it to be a weird trip.
Because on some level, I felt that there was...
You know how you look at Alex Jones, and one of the things that is the key to him is narrative building and what have you.
And he does it very nefariously.
But watching this, you could see that there was elements of that even within this news coverage.
And that made me feel bad.
Watching it felt bad.
Like, it wasn't as evil, and it wasn't being deployed to drive hatred towards people the way that Alex uses narrative.
You know, to make the night more interesting.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's presentation.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And to me, I felt like that sucks.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, ultimately, it isn't what we really come down to.
The problem being, like...
News should just be news.
I mean, it should borderline just be like a fucking ticker feed of thing happened.
dan friesen
Make news boring again.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
But if people aren't aware of the news, so you have to be...
Oh, man, it's tough.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's tough.
I feel like I should stop watching...
jordan holmes
I have not watched the news in years.
dan friesen
I generally don't, but for these kinds of event-type things, I feel like it's interesting to tune in and get a sense of stuff.
jordan holmes
Is this the first presidential primary that has had no drama for us in our lifetime?
Can you think of one?
dan friesen
I think we could find some drama.
And it's not over.
jordan holmes
I mean more like electoral drama on Super Tuesday, right?
So you go back...
2020 Super Tuesday, we're talking Sanders, Biden, we're talking that whole drama.
Maybe Sanders will win.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
Before that, we've got the Trump bloodbath, you know, where everybody's going crazy.
Then we got the 2012, we got Romney, and who else was going up against?
dan friesen
Huntsman?
John Huntsman?
jordan holmes
Yeah, that must have been it.
It was Romney and Obama basically from the jump on that one, wasn't it?
dan friesen
Probably not.
We're probably forgetting something because it's probably fairly bland drama if there was anything.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, if Romney was the one that emerged from it, it was bland drama.
dan friesen
Well, in 2008, you had Obama and Clinton.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And then McCain choosing...
Sarah Palin.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
There was a lot of chaos in 2008.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
2008 was the time.
dan friesen
And then Ron Paul getting screwed.
New Hampshire fucking him over.
Adam fucking Sutton.
Yeah, that was chaos.
jordan holmes
That was the last good one, though.
That was the last real good one.
dan friesen
I do think that as much as this is an awful primary, and things are terrible, and I don't look forward to any of this, you are right in some sense that there is not competition.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And, uh, yeah.
I guess that leaves news organizations needing something.
And you gotta fake some competition, I guess, a little bit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, did you see the coverage?
Did you watch the NBA All-Star game?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
So, they play, uh, nominally, it's a basketball game.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Right?
But, uh...
These are all the best athletes on the planet, and their bodies are worth trillions of dollars.
So not only is nobody...
Not playing defense for this exhibition game that's really just an award.
Everybody is just trying trick shots.
So it's like watching little kids play basketball where they all just run up to one side and then somebody throws the ball up and then they all just run to the other side.
So if you hear sports people trying to announce that game where they're like, oh, he's taking it up the floor and then you can feel them get sad.
Just going like...
Oh, this sucks.
dan friesen
Yeah, you don't want to be sitting there calling like, well, they're having fun.
jordan holmes
Yikes!
dan friesen
They're fucking around.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
These are the best players, not playing that hard.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep, yep.
Ooh, he just threw it off the backboard to himself.
Oh, he missed.
So it's not fun at all.
unidentified
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
It's even worse than not fun, yeah.
dan friesen
So I watched all this, and one of the reasons that I did was I was expecting that I would tune into Alex's show, and he'd have some discussion of the primary.
I thought there would be...
And I would be well equipped to come back at him and be like, I got you.
I watched this shit go down and we could talk about it.
And then it's useless because Alex wasn't even in studio.
So, anyway, he's in his car.
And we will discuss a little bit of this because there's at least one thing that happened that I find incredibly shocking and is a massive departure from Alex's previous...
Sort of vibe.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And so we'll talk about that as we get along.
But here is where Alex starts things off from the car.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
It's Wednesday, March 6, 2024.
I'm your host, Alex Jones.
We are on the road.
It's part of a very important secret mission you'll know about very, very soon in the next 48 hours.
I'll just leave it at that.
Got a huge broadcast lined up for you today.
I'm going to be shooting reports this morning that'll be compiled for the live show that you're watching right now.
Owen Schroer is going to be sitting in the chair covering all the breaking news, guests, and taking your calls.
But let me tell you what I'm going to be breaking down and covering today.
Trump swept Super Tuesday except for Vermont.
And that's one of the only states where Democrats can come over in the primary and vote as Republican.
And that's what they did.
So this is all part of election theft, all part of election meddling.
They're the party of election fraud.
They're the party of stealing elections.
They're the party of suing and criminally charging Trump.
And you just saw the Supreme Court say it's preposterous that without him being convicted or even charged with insurrection, that he can be pulled off the ballot.
But still, they continue to move forward trying to keep you.
From voting for who you want.
dan friesen
So generally when Alex is on the road for a secret mission, I assume that some idiot invited him on their podcast.
That's typically what I think.
But that's the tease here.
See, this is a caravanity project all over again.
This whole episode, this whole mini-episode...
Is now going to be a payoff for when we find out what the secret mission is.
jordan holmes
48 hours.
dan friesen
It hasn't been 48 hours.
jordan holmes
It hasn't been 48 hours since then.
dan friesen
This is Wednesday's episode.
We're recording on Thursday.
jordan holmes
Damn.
dan friesen
So I don't even...
I don't know what the secret mission is.
jordan holmes
Could happen.
dan friesen
But we're going to find out.
jordan holmes
We've got 24 hours.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Put the clock on.
dan friesen
We're going to find out who Q is.
Yep.
unidentified
And...
jordan holmes
Wait, we're going to find out who Q is?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Didn't we already?
dan friesen
Yeah, he's a guy who's on Survivor this season.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
There's a guy named Q on there.
unidentified
That sounds right.
dan friesen
QAnon's going wild.
jordan holmes
I bet he's great.
dan friesen
So I would think, like...
All right.
unidentified
Crowder...
dan friesen
That's not a secret mission.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
If Alex is going to do Crowder, no.
I think it's...
If I had to put some money on something, I would say maybe Patrick bet David.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I think he might be...
unidentified
That guy.
dan friesen
Yeah, he could be big enough and Alex would be like, I'm gonna go do a secret mission.
jordan holmes
And life has remained fragile.
dan friesen
It seems unlikely that it's Rogan.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't think Alex would drive...
Wait, no, because Rogan's in Austin.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he wouldn't even have to drive that far.
He wouldn't do a secret mission.
jordan holmes
No.
No, no, no.
unidentified
Hmm.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Anyway, it's not election fraud or meddling to vote for the other party in an open primary.
There are 20 states in the U.S. that have open primaries where you don't have to be a registered member of a party to participate in that primary.
Haley squeaked out a win in Vermont, ruining Trump's clean sweep of states.
So this has become the talking point around it.
Some of the folks were definitely Democrat voters who knew Biden was going to win in their primary.
So they went and voted in the GOP one.
But there's another element that should be concerning for Alex, and that's independent voters.
Trump is currently underperforming with independents, which could be a real issue when it comes to the general election.
It may not, though, since this could just be.
But it's cause for concern, so I can see why Alex would rather just brand it all as Democrat voter fraud.
And Alex is wildly misrepresenting the Supreme Court decision.
They did determine that Trump couldn't be kicked off the ballot in Colorado by the state Supreme Court, but it wasn't because he hadn't been charged as being involved in an insurrection.
That's just Alex's go-to talking point about the case, so he's pretending that his analysis has been vindicated.
They determined that someone could be kicked off a ballot, but a single state couldn't do that for a federal ballot.
That would need Congress to be involved is essentially the long and short of it.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
You said they weren't even going to make a decision.
You were wrong, bro.
jordan holmes
I'm surprised.
I am.
I mean, I'm surprised more because I really didn't think they were going to do it.
You know?
Like, they're really going for it.
You can just fucking do whatever you want now.
dan friesen
Smoke them if you got them.
jordan holmes
I mean, it really is.
Did you read some of that shit?
dan friesen
I didn't read the whole thing, but I read a number of articles about it.
jordan holmes
I mean, because here's what's fun about it.
About the Supreme Court's ruling on this one, right?
You can put a lot of angles on what they did say, but here's the idea that they're really saying.
Try and bring us a case about something that we said we're going to rule on in this one.
Do it.
I dare you.
Then we'll have precedent.
You're not going to do that.
unidentified
You don't want to know what we rule on that case.
jordan holmes
So you guys...
dan friesen
Like, what type of scenario are you talking about?
jordan holmes
Well, like, if you actually do try and overthrow the government...
dan friesen
Then see what we say?
jordan holmes
Then see what we...
See, okay.
Trump, we all know, is guilty of all the crimes, right?
So, bring a case to us.
After the Congress passes the law saying you can't do this, bring the case that says that law is constitutional.
I dare you.
I dare you to ask us if Congress can do the thing we said they have to do.
I dare you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah, it is.
It does seem like it's on an unnecessary stage or level that's being added to it.
So, the other thing that has happened that Alex is really glomming onto in his car reports, because he does a couple.
One is just him talking about how great Tucker's most recent Twitter show was.
It's just a bunch of xenophobic trash.
Okay.
I'm just going to ignore that whole thing.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
I don't need to do a coverage of Alex's coverage of Tucker episode.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What's it called?
Matrushka.
dan friesen
There you go.
But one of the things that he's super interested- How did that become a bit?
jordan holmes
I did it like twice.
dan friesen
He hasn't been for a long time.
I thought he'd call it back.
jordan holmes
It was perfect.
dan friesen
We're padding time here.
jordan holmes
We're padding time.
dan friesen
All right, so there was a video that came out.
I guess it was on a Twitter space.
There was this fighter named Ryan Garcia who was talking to Andrew Tate, and he said that he was at Bohemian Grove, and he was held down when he was younger, and he was forced to watch children be abused.
And so this has caught fire with some of the more QAnon adjacent influencers, a lot of people in those spaces.
Alex brought it up, and I thought for sure, well, he's going to run with this, because this is his type of bread and butter.
This is going to be...
He goes a different direction with it that I thought was surprising.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
alex jones
I'm going to be talking about a former champion, now the main contender.
Ryan Garcia, who came out yesterday on a Spaces on X with Andrew Tate and others, and said that he was at Bohemian Grove and was tied down and forced to watch children being sexually assaulted.
Now, we don't know if this is true or not, but I've listened to the entire Spaces last night, and it sounds to me like he's having a mental breakdown.
That said, I'm not saying that there isn't serious crimes that go on in and around Bohemian Grove.
We have some historical evidence of that.
dan friesen
So Alex's take on it is this guy sounds like he's having a breakdown.
That, to me, is very surprising.
unidentified
That is, like, is he worried about the guy?
dan friesen
Maybe.
I think that I have not gone and listened to that whole thing because I couldn't.
I don't want to listen to Andrew Tate interview anybody, quite frankly.
But from other people who have commented on it, it does seem like the consensus among non-QAnani type folks are that he's mentally unwell.
He's having an episode and people should be taking care of him.
People should get him the help that he needs as opposed to playing into this stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's been hit in the head a lot.
dan friesen
Most fighters have.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And the thing that I find very surprising is Alex having that take, because on the one hand, you can see it as, like, this is a compassionate stance to have.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
This is someone who needs help as opposed to, you know, using whatever he's saying for your own purposes.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so I was surprised by that, and I thought, like, wow, Alex...
I mean, he's not.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, I'm waiting for you to pull the goddamn rug out of you, bastard.
dan friesen
Right, but you could interpret it that way.
jordan holmes
Yes, it's possible.
dan friesen
And that's very uncommon, because Alex could make bread out of this.
jordan holmes
And it almost would be reasonable, too, because in a way, that seems like a thing Alex could empathize with.
The idea of a fighter being hurt, you know?
dan friesen
He's been hitting the head a lot, too.
jordan holmes
He's been hitting the head a lot.
dan friesen
With a brick?
jordan holmes
I've been hitting the head a lot.
I can empathize with that in a straight-up, just monkey-recognizes-monkey way.
It's a problem that's more abstract, like gender discrimination.
Alex can't understand that.
dan friesen
Well, I just thought, in all other circumstances, I would have assumed that someone would say, hey, I witnessed this thing at Bohemian Grove, this thing that works and plays into Alex's narratives.
I would have thought, in every instance, he would have been like, you bet.
I'm in.
Let's roll with this.
And not only that, I know it's true.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Instead, he goes the other direction and is like, I think he's having a breakdown.
jordan holmes
I'm worried about this guy.
dan friesen
Which is weird.
And it gets weirder.
alex jones
I'm going to talk about the latest infiltrations of Bohemian Grove and what Bohemian Grove really is.
It's very sinister.
It's a system of corruption.
Richard Nixon talked about it, but...
Most of the people that go to Bohemian Grove are not involved in Satanism.
They're not involved in hurting children.
jordan holmes
What is happening right now?
alex jones
There is evidence that some of that goes on in and around that area.
And there's a massive occult system around the world.
And Bohemian Grove is just one node or one major elite encampment of this cult.
So we'll be breaking that all down today as well.
And so much more.
Infowars.com.
dan friesen
So you may notice that Alex has a surprisingly softened stance on Bohemian Grove.
And if you're wondering why, I think it's probably because all that news came out about Clarence Thomas and his billionaire buddy Harlan Crowe hanging out there a bunch.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I think that maybe Alex is like, ah, shit.
Some of the important figures in my area maybe are hanging out there too.
Not everybody who goes there is worshipping Satan in the big Satan worshipping ritual that they do every year.
Nah, some people are just hanging out.
It's fine.
jordan holmes
You know, I...
I get it.
I get the idea.
You know, like, you can either retire or you can just wait until the job is just gone, you know?
Like, for me, if I'm doing my whole thing, if I'm Alex and I'm 20, 30-odd years in, and then I have to say, like, oh...
Not everybody that goes there is bad.
I just go, I retire.
I'm done.
This is where I'm done.
dan friesen
Well, the problem is the absolutes.
Exactly.
If he had done a documentary about Bohemian Grove in 2000, as he did, and the documentary was about, hey, it's kind of weird.
They got this big old stone owl with Walter Cronkite's voice.
It's very strange.
jordan holmes
That is strange.
dan friesen
These people seem a bit theatrical.
And it's, you know, not a good idea maybe to have all these powerful people coming together.
If it was that, if that was the limitation of the criticism, you could go with that for the rest of your career and be in safe territory.
Once you're like, they're burning an effigy of a child and maybe it's a real sacrifice and they're doing it to the god Moloch.
This is devil shit.
Once you do that, it's so black and white that whoever is there is bad.
You can't equivocate like this just because now you want some people not to be bad.
It's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
That's the problem.
It is so much the way that people misinterpret that quote.
You die a hero, you live long enough to see yourself become a villain kind of thing.
That is just the absolutes.
That's what you're describing there.
It's like, at no point in time is there a, should we raise it to a 40% progressive tax or a 34% progressive tax?
It's you're good or evil.
There's no way for you to soften your stance and be like, okay, 38%.
No, you're evil now!
dan friesen
The reason that Batman has to die a hero or live long enough to become the villain is because...
Because he's extreme.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
What's he gonna...
Yeah, no.
Okay.
Batman only shows up on third strike sentencing.
What are you talking about?
dan friesen
So, Batman reform?
unidentified
There's a bab.
dan friesen
So, all bats are bats?
Oh, spit take.
unidentified
Yep, you got me.
jordan holmes
Good thing there wasn't much left in there.
Oh, you got me.
dan friesen
So, Alex, I think what's partially behind this is the realization that some of the people that he likes go to Bohemian Grove.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And then I think some of the other stuff comes down to a little bit of jealousy.
Like, this is my turf.
jordan holmes
It does feel like that.
dan friesen
This is my turf.
You don't get to make stories about Bohemian Grove.
jordan holmes
He's a little defensive.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
And I've infiltrated Bohemian Grove.
I've studied it.
I've gotten in touch with widows of members of it and gotten their internal annals.
I've made documentary films on it.
I've been part of Discovery Channel, History Channel shows on it.
I tried to infiltrate again 10 years ago and barely escaped.
And what I really realized out of all this is every week, without even looking for the clips on X, but also on Instagram and YouTube, Bohemian Grove gets 20, 30 million.
Views, people talking about it.
Joe Rogan talks about it all the time.
He was talking about it with Aaron Rodgers a few weeks ago.
And just my documentaries, Dark Secrets Inside Bohemian Grove, it's 23 years old.
And The Order of Death, it's like 20 years old.
Consistently every week get, let's be conservative, 15, 20 million views on excellent.
So I've realized that...
I'm going to make a new documentary with all the updated information.
I'm going to go back and find the old HD footage I've got, and I'm going to re-release this with updates.
So, it's going to happen.
I want it to happen, so look for that.
Okay, so, let's go ahead and play the Ryan Garcia clip, and then I'll...
Tell you what's really going on in my view.
dan friesen
So look for that documentary not to materialize.
Although, if it does, I would suggest he interview John Ronson again, who has gone on record and said that Alex told him that he is knowingly lying about what happened at Bohemian Grove.
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
I would feel like that would be an important perspective for Alex to include in this new documentary, should he put that out.
jordan holmes
I mean, he's had 20 years to think about it.
I think he can finally get it right this time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So the issue here is that Alex has absolutely nothing more to say about Bohemian Grove than he did in 2000, and he definitely doesn't have anything flashier than the video of the cremation of care ceremony.
That's as good as it gets.
Don't try and redo this.
jordan holmes
It's the tops, yeah.
dan friesen
There's no second documentary there, but I get where Alex's head is at.
He's someone who's really good at telling when a topic is hot among the shithead crowd, and the Grove is having a tiny bit of a moment with those people now.
Partially because of Ryan Garcia's comments and just surrounding satanic panic type ideas.
It's that instinct of when to ride a wave that's really helped propel Alex to the point he's at now in his career, but it's a useless skill in the present day.
Back when he was the biggest game in town, when the rest of the conspiracy community was relegated to obscure message boards with no traffic, he was on the radio, actually reaching people.
Back then, his instincts to know when something was getting popular was...
The last gasp of this being a really potent thing was probably his obsession with calling every shooting a false flag.
That was probably about where that hit the zenith.
That got going when he was legitimately above the rabble.
He was able to capitalize on telling the audience what they wanted to hear, which they couldn't hear anywhere else.
But unfortunately for him, social media has made that talent entirely useless.
They can hear whatever he's gonna say everywhere.
Now that a million accounts with hundreds of thousands of followers who do the same shit as Alex are all there out on Twitter, that audience doesn't need the centralized hub of his radio show to get the fix that he used to be able to provide for them.
Back in the day, Alex led the conversation, often by yelling about drudge headlines that people were upset about on right-wing message boards, but he was able to obscure how much of a follower he was back then.
Nowadays, everything is too open.
The modern equivalent of those right-wing message boards is Twitter, and it's all too transparent how willing he is to go and chase attention.
This Bohemian Grove thing is a prime example.
Some fighter, who even Alex thinks is having a mental breakdown, told noted human trafficker Andrew Tate about the Grove in a Twitter space, and now everyone...
Everyone's talking about it.
Alex wants a piece of that attention since he views the Grove as his territory.
This is my thing, but it's not.
Also, the second time Alex tried to get into the Grove was on Jesse Ventura's show Conspiracy Theory.
He didn't almost die or not make it out.
He just got caught trespassing.
It's pretty funny, though.
He's acting like...
The whole time, he's like, oh my god, they're gonna shoot me.
If you go back and watch that, it's pretty funny.
jordan holmes
I mean, if you throw barely in...
dan friesen
Barely made it out.
jordan holmes
If you throw barely in there, you better be Indiana Jones grabbing your hat.
Otherwise you escaped safely.
dan friesen
Or give me a broken leg.
jordan holmes
Something.
dan friesen
Yeah, give me an injury.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or you did time.
jordan holmes
You've got scrapes from your tree branches that you had to hide in.
Something along those lines.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Yeah, he was on a TV show and he got caught trespassing.
jordan holmes
You know what I find interesting?
When you describe that, it is almost like Alex was...
A form of a Drudge kind of aggregator, but for bullshit opinions.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's kind of a layer on top of an aggregator.
jordan holmes
So Drudge would have the stories, and then Alex could go to the message boards and aggregate the opinions on the stories and then broadcast them as the voice.
dan friesen
Well, and not necessarily that he would just steal everything.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
He was from that swamp.
He was from that mire.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And so, like...
He had the same opinions that a lot of those people on those message boards had already.
But that kind of ability to tell, like, ah, this is going to play to that crowd is also, like, a big piece of what he's built things on.
And now, like I said, there's too many other people on Twitter.
There's too many other people who have made a name for themselves as shithead.
Sort of nonsense aggregators.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he doesn't have that market to himself anymore.
And that's sad.
jordan holmes
No, and they're all competing with each other to try and steal as much space as possible because the collapse is inevitable.
dan friesen
And they just see them fighting with each other a lot, too, because they want that whatever they can get of that.
Piece of bread?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, they do all almost operate on the idea of, like, this entire world is a hot potato.
Like, the moment the song stops, as long as we have enough, when the song stops, we'll be fine, and everybody else will die.
dan friesen
Well, it kind of goes to that Larry Nichols idea of, like, when the collapse comes...
jordan holmes
When he becomes a duke!
dan friesen
All the people in Congress become dukes.
jordan holmes
You become a duke automatically.
Duke it up!
dan friesen
So, yeah, I mean, I think that mentality is ubiquitous.
Yeah.
So Alex is talking about this claim that Ryan Garcia made, and he's not calling him a liar, which is generous, I guess.
It's sort of being cautious with that, but he's saying, he's insinuating that false claims are being made.
jordan holmes
Right, he's saying not true things that he believes are true, which means he's not a liar, it means his brain is deceiving him.
dan friesen
But this is also really bad, because there are real things that are going on that this takes away from.
jordan holmes
There you go.
alex jones
I don't know what the truth is, and I'm not accusing him of lying.
But what I do want to say is this.
When people come out and make unfounded claims about real things that are going on, it then discredits all the real, bonafide intel that's out there.
And a great example is what happened in 2000, or excuse me, 2016, with the WikiLeaks.
And it had John Podesta.
And kids being delivered to farmhouses for entertainment, in the hot tub, seven-year-olds, and Aleister Crowley rituals, and just insane crap.
That was in New York, in upstate New York, and other areas.
And then Barack Obama getting $57,000 of hot dogs delivered to his apartment.
That's code for gay prostitutes.
Then CNN and New York Times said, oh, it's really this pizza place in D.C. And then got all of us to cover what they were saying so they could then try to discredit all the other real stuff.
I don't think Garcia's doing that.
If I had to make a guess, and I've listened to the full X spaces, he sounds like a man in crisis, a man having a mental meltdown.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
So, Alex, look, man.
dan friesen
Okay, first of all, he's lying about the stuff that's in the WikiLeaks.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But second, he is trying to pass off.
That CNN, these mainstream media people are the ones who did Pizzagate.
They just tricked him into covering it.
jordan holmes
This is so ridiculous.
That's an amazing accomplishment.
If people are going to buy that, if people buy that CNN tricked Alex and the Lunatics into covering Pizzagate the way they did...
And you buy it?
You win.
You win.
I give up.
dan friesen
There's an interesting genre of ass covering that Alex does that's like this.
Because he did Pizzagate.
I mean, not that he necessarily started it, but he was a big part of promoting it and pushing it.
Joe Biggs was out there doing research.
Oh, boy.
This rewriting of stuff is a way to cover the ass and be like, CNN covered it and tricked us into doing it.
We didn't actually want to cover this.
We were covering the serious stuff.
And he does this a bit.
I mean, like, you know, he was deep into Barack Obama was born in Kenya kind of stuff, fake birth certificate stuff.
And then later, it's like, no, no, no.
No, no.
The media put out the fake birth certificate stuff in order to trick us into covering it.
It's just a very bizarre instinct.
jordan holmes
Because they knew we'd act like idiots.
dan friesen
Right.
We're too racist not to take that bait.
jordan holmes
You guys know what you're saying, right?
You do understand the words that are coming, that you don't, because you don't.
dan friesen
It's very strange that the defense is like, we got tricked.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
We're idiots.
But we wouldn't admit that at the time, which is how we get into these situations.
If we could admit that we were idiots in the moment of being one, we would not then later on have to admit we were idiots and we always were.
dan friesen
Right.
It seems to be a trend.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Boy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Tough.
dan friesen
But, you know, still, I do think, you know, I mean, it's very, very faint praise, but...
It is good that at least Alex is being like, this is a guy who's in trouble.
And not treating it like, let's piggyback this.
He's trying to use it and his seeming classiness about it in order to push his own shit.
And there's a level of that that's a little bit abusive and exploitative.
But it's not nearly as exploitative as a lot of people are treating that situation.
jordan holmes
It is the, like...
Gradation of sin and hell.
You know, you're already in hell.
It's hard to say, but I guess that guy is really hell guy.
That guy is really sinning a lot, man.
dan friesen
The people who are really exploiting hell.
jordan holmes
Exactly, yeah.
It's like, it's so tough whenever the bar is that low.
dan friesen
So, let's talk Bohemian Grove.
Alex is going to talk Bohemian Grove a little.
jordan holmes
Let's do it.
alex jones
Let's talk about Bohemian Grove.
Bohemian Grove, according to a former German chancellor, Helmut Schmidt, in his book Men and Powers, Both a Retrospective, is a Druidic-Germanic death cult.
And that Skull and Bones is an offshoot for younger people in the elites at Yale, which has admitted their annals have been leaked and all confirmed.
And Robert De Niro made a movie about it, The Good Shepherd, that's historical, with Matt Damon.
So you see those scenes of devil worship in there.
That's really from their annals.
annals that Charlotte Iserby got from her father, who was a member on his deathbed with cancer, and gave to Anthony Sutton, Senate archivist.
They had the Frank Church Committee hearings off that.
So everything I'm saying, you just search all this, Frank Church Committee, Anthony Sutton, Skull and Bones.
dan friesen
Yikes.
So Helmut Schmidt's book doesn't say all that?
Alex has one line from that book that he's embellished out into a full confession of the Grove being a druidic death cult, but that's all bullshit.
I'm not even sure the exact line that Alex has is from the book, but it's basically that of the places, you know, the Groves...
There's groves in Germany, but this is my favorite place to do the rituals.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And Alex has turned that into, oh, it's a dramatic death call.
Whatever, man.
So one thing that's really funny when you look into Helmut Schmidt coming to the Grove is that when you do, you learn that Alex's whole thing about him exposing the Grove is utter bullshit.
I was poking around and I found an article from 1982, the year when Schmidt
attended about protests against the grove in the san francisco paper oh my god there was a whole group called the bohemian grove action network that set up uh outside the entrance of the grove with signs and bare uh banners and everything like alex has really just piggybacked a lot of that which was a more left-wing yeah uh kind of he just steals shit left and right yeah also the church committee did not establish any of that shit further the church committee existed in 1975 then released its final Sure.
This is kind of standard Alex-style narrative building, just tossing a ton of unrelated and half-fabricated things together, talking really confidently.
I mean, he memorized the full name of Helmut Schmidt's books.
He can't possibly be bluffing any of this.
It's all just a charade.
This is smoke and mirrors and puppets.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is so much exactly what you saw on NBC News.
Isn't it?
Basically, right?
dan friesen
Well, they talked a lot about Helmut Schmidt.
jordan holmes
I mean, I'm not saying that, but the Trump surrogate on NBC News is just doing the same word salad move.
And ultimately, he's borderline able to sneak in.
In five years, they're all going to be sneaking in like, you know what that is?
That's code for gay prostitutes.
Just move on and then just move on.
And you're like, how did we get here?
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, if you're listening to Alex, even just in that less than a minute, you're like...
There are a hundred things here that are claims that we need to evaluate, and you're not going to give anyone any time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is like, okay, fact-checking is possible, but not for you.
For you, it's either we stab you in the throat with a pen, or we all run away.
Like, there's no escape.
dan friesen
I think it would be interesting.
Like, I don't want to do this, and I think it might be inhumane.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But it would be fun to give Alex a shock collar.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
Every time he says something that is dubious or untrue, see if you can train him.
jordan holmes
Here's what I think about that is that shock collars, that's a dangerous thing.
It goes wrong for some people.
unidentified
Some people enjoy it.
jordan holmes
Some dogs, no.
It's like the shock collar then becomes the shock fences.
If you make your dog hate the fence, then the dog's going to get out and then they're never going to want to come back.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
So instead of teaching Alex not to lie, you may just teach him to use shock collars as power for his own heart, and he'll never die.
dan friesen
Turn into Iron Man.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
This is a danger.
jordan holmes
This is the true danger.
dan friesen
So, you want to hear some more facts about Bohemian Grove?
jordan holmes
Obviously.
alex jones
So, you've got different secret Germanic death cults, and they're just part of the overall Illuminati system, but skull and bones...
By 1900, it had taken over the Bohemian Grove that Mark Twain helped set up as an artist colony.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, what?
alex jones
It had been different from that for 30, 40 years before with Mark Twain.
After Mark Twain had died and stuff, they took it over, and they turned it into an occultic place where they did black magic-style Illuminati rituals.
And again, George Washington talked about how the masons that he was part of were being taken over in 1776 up to 1789 by the Illuminati.
So look at the George Washington's letters on the Illuminati.
Everything I'm giving you is a huge data point.
Because letters on the Illuminati or the National Archives, the search engine, George Washington, letters on the Illuminati, you'll get those.
dan friesen
So this is all over the place.
And none of that's real.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Mark Twain did not start the Bohemian Club.
jordan holmes
I'm going to have to disagree with you on that one.
dan friesen
It was started by staff members of the San Francisco Chronicle.
Mark Twain was given an honorary membership, but there's no record that he even ever went.
Skull and Bones didn't take over the Grove in 1900.
This is just something Alex is making up because it sounds exciting.
unidentified
It does.
dan friesen
Also, George Washington's letter that Alex is talking about is a reply to a man named Reverend G.W. Snyder, who had asked him if the Masonic Lodges in the U.S. were falling under the sway of the Illuminati, and Washington said no.
I believe notwithstanding that none of the lodges in this country are contaminated with the principles ascribed to the Society of the Illuminati.
Snyder had become convinced of a conspiracy because he found a dumb book, and he was writing Washington about it, who then sent him a polite response.
jordan holmes
I will say, that's exactly what they would say.
dan friesen
Probably.
Probably would.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Oh, it's proof.
unidentified
Damn it.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So Alex has taken this, and he's decided to believe the exact opposite of what the letters say while claiming the letter as a source.
It's because he knows that no one's going to go and read those letters, and even if they do, they'll just see the word Illuminati there and be like, oh my god, Alex was right.
Hashtag he's right.
It's all a fucking charade.
It's nonsense.
But these are major data points of something.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I wish they would be more strict about following, you know, like, maybe be a little bit more strict about following what the guys you think are the greatest guys in history actually said.
You know, like, George Washington said, like, oh, there's no Illuminati.
You guys love the Founding Fathers, so now you have to say there's no Illuminati.
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no.
dan friesen
Just to be clear, there is an Illuminati that is real.
You know, in like 1776, Adam Weishaupt, all that shit.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
unidentified
But...
jordan holmes
I understand that.
dan friesen
George Washington saying, no, we don't have that shit.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
They don't matter.
They're not taking over our lodges.
unidentified
That's what I'm saying.
jordan holmes
You should have to trust it when George Washington says it.
dan friesen
Especially if you're using that letter as a source.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
You definitely have to then.
You can't just say the opposite.
jordan holmes
Because otherwise your whole thing doesn't make any sense.
Then you're just picking and choosing what you think Washington did and didn't say.
dan friesen
Well, to be fair, that's exactly what it is.
The country and the history, the founding fathers, all that shit is a prop.
And the prop can be disguised and decorated however you want it to for your purposes.
That's the way Alex operates and how he uses history.
You bet.
Like I said, charade, smoke, mirrors, puppets.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Kabang.
jordan holmes
Let's dance.
dan friesen
So look, dude.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Okay, let's get out of here.
dan friesen
Not everybody who goes to the Grove is bad.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I thought, obviously, this is about...
Clarence Thomas.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I thought for sure, because there's a real investment in defending him being part of the Supreme Court, not recusing himself.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
For people like Alex, it's a huge incentive.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
But I realized that I might have been thinking a little too high-minded.
alex jones
Now, everybody that goes is not bad.
More than half the folks that go each year are guests.
Were you invited?
World leaders, royalty.
Richard Nixon said, and it's in the White House tapes, the most goddamn fact I've ever saw when I was in there for four hours.
Guys listening at me.
I snuck in with Mike Hansen.
He got pinched on the butt.
I mean, this is going on.
And so this is where mainly Republicans go, and to feel like they're in the club, they have gay sex.
I'm not saying that's the whole thing mixed in with some weird stolen boats rituals.
So, what I want to be clear is Kid Rock, I'm not defending Kid Rock, that's not my job.
Kid Rock said to Joe Rogan, he volunteered, "Hey, I was invited, I was a guest to play music while I was there." That's what they do, they invite people.
And I beat a guy up and got basically suspended.
And people said, "Oh, he's a member of it." And I said, "No, I'm not.
People are invited there." So I use the Kid Rock example to explain not everybody that's going there is having gay sex.
Not everybody that's going there is doing satanic rituals.
But it's a place where they recruit you into it.
You're like, what's this?
You're watching this ritual.
And if you like it, then you get recruited deeper into it.
dan friesen
Don't judge Kid Rock just because he went and performed at the Grove.
I can just imagine Kissinger and all these old globalist types sitting around.
jordan holmes
My name is Kid!
dan friesen
Kira!
jordan holmes
I...
I...
dan friesen
Devil without a cause, he's going platinum.
unidentified
I feel like Alex should not defend Kid Rock as much.
dan friesen
He's the bull god!
jordan holmes
You know what I just, here's what I just kept, I kept thinking in my head, just like the idea, you know, it's a big moment when Pontius Pilate is like, man, this is unjust, Jesus, but you know what?
I washed my hands on this whole thing.
If it was Kid Rock, he'd be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, go, go, go to town, I'm out.
Oh, is he, is he a...
Bohemian Grove member?
Washing my hands is the easiest thing I've ever done.
dan friesen
He was a guest.
jordan holmes
Oh, I don't care.
Washing my hands.
Go to town.
The idea of you having to defend Kid Rock and then defend Bohemian Grove because of it.
Just cut the line.
Let Kid Rock go.
dan friesen
I don't see why not.
unidentified
Send him to the Bohemian Grove heaven.
dan friesen
Like I'm saying too, though, if you look at Kid Rock's Kid Rock's one of them.
jordan holmes
You can do it.
Just done.
You don't have to defend Bohemian Grove.
You don't have to.
dan friesen
Apparently Kid Rock is more important than Bohemian Grove at this point.
jordan holmes
Man, listen, ladies and gentlemen.
dan friesen
So I guess we have Kid Rock and Clarence Thomas as being reasons that not all...
Hashtag not all Bohemian Grove attendees.
jordan holmes
Can you put Kid Rock and Clarence Thomas in the same sentence for me all the time, but in 2000 on TRL?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Clarence Thomas is throwing elbows in the pit at the Kid Rock show.
jordan holmes
What a world, man.
What a world.
dan friesen
I swear to God, I owned at least one Kid Rock album, and I'm trying to come up with other song titles, and I'm drawing blanks.
jordan holmes
I did not.
I did not.
dan friesen
Only God knows why.
unidentified
Does he?
dan friesen
That was his ballad.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
He did have a ballad, didn't he?
dan friesen
Yep.
That was a big hit.
jordan holmes
You have to have a ballad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You gotta.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It's gotta play.
There's a music video.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's gonna play next to Aerosmith's Don't Ever Close Your Eyes.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I used to do Bob with the Bob at karaoke.
jordan holmes
Did ya?
unidentified
Big hit.
dan friesen
That's a tough one, because you've got to hold that, my name is Kid!
jordan holmes
You do.
dan friesen
For a really long time at the beginning.
jordan holmes
You don't have to.
dan friesen
If you're a showman.
jordan holmes
Well, there's that.
There is that.
dan friesen
I took my karaoke seriously.
jordan holmes
You are a showman.
dan friesen
Retired showman.
jordan holmes
Ah, come on.
dan friesen
So we've got one last clip here from Alex's car report, and it's where the rubber meets the road, pun intended.
alex jones
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We told you about lockdowns and poison shots that would attack your immune system decades before.
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dan friesen
We just need to take a second and recognize the surreality of this.
Alex is sitting in his car driving down the highway.
Either someone else is recording him or he set up the camera and he's rambling about Mark Twain starting the Bohemian Club.
All this nonsense.
And he does a pitch.
He does a full-on sales pitch sitting in his car because he knows...
These ding-dongs back at home, they can't sell.
Owen can't sell when he's hosting the show for him.
Chase Geyser is not a salesman.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
They ain't moving product.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Alex in his car doing a pre-record moves more than those jerks.
And so he knows what he has to do.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's not even close.
dan friesen
There's a patheticness about that that is really just...
Being that person who realizes, if I want to make any money today, I need to use this commute to talk some bullshit and then do a commercial in my car.
That's a human doing that, and that part is really bleak.
jordan holmes
That's dark.
That is dark.
dan friesen
That's the game you play.
jordan holmes
When you're in the studio, you know...
There's all the glitz.
There's all the bright, shiny lights.
But when you're in the car and you're recording this, it really does remind me exactly of those videos of the guy recording the car at a police checkpoint just being like, I will not roll down my window, sir!
No, you cannot!
No, it's the Fourth Amendment, sir!
I will not roll!
And you're like, if that person then just went...
And we got 25% off, you'd be like, that's the show.
That's the exact show.
dan friesen
It is very similar.
Wow.
It makes me think of, I mean, without the commercial, but it makes me think of, like, Stefan Molyneux's early work was just him driving around in his car.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Recording himself expounding on philosophical topics.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
And that's kind of...
I don't know.
It's something that you do when you don't have the studio.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And Alex has multiple studios.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So conceivably, I can't imagine his time being that crunched that he couldn't do this at his home studio.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or something like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It feels lazy.
It feels sloppy.
unidentified
Lazy.
jordan holmes
Lazy feels like that.
dan friesen
Or...
Maybe he had to sell the home studio.
jordan holmes
Maybe he had to sell it.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Hey, maybe somebody else is going to sell the home studio real fast.
dan friesen
It's possible.
I also think that I've gotten a little bit more information that some of that liquidation stuff may not be as imminent as some of the media reports have made out to be.
So that might have been a little bit of a miscommunication through the press in terms of what that vote actually meant.
jordan holmes
A miscommunication through the press about this particular case?
Never heard of it.
dan friesen
But it's also a pretty complicated issue.
jordan holmes
Oh, incredibly.
dan friesen
The creditor...
Voting and stuff like that is very easy for people to get misconstrued.
And I think that we even had a little bit of a misinterpretation about it.
It's not necessarily that things are going to be immediately liquidated, but I still think he might have sold his gym equipment.
And he might still be selling stuff off.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we had a little conversation about it where it was like, this is the opposite of kids in the backseat saying, are we there yet?
I am not asking.
I want no updates on this until we're there.
dan friesen
That's also because it frustrates you when you learn that you're not there yet.
jordan holmes
Well, every update is a frustration, and then there's the compounding one where it's like...
Okay, well, we talked to a guy, and the report from the media was a little bit, you know, it's always like, we did take two steps forward, and then we take one step back, but there's still a thought.
Just tell me when we're there.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Just tell me when we're there.
dan friesen
Yeah, process moves forward.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm happy.
I'm good.
The process moving forward, that's good.
dan friesen
So, we come to the end of this, and I guess I'm thrilled that we did manage to make it to about an hour.
jordan holmes
It's us.
dan friesen
That is a success, given the limited amount of content Alex had for this episode, and my desire to see what he would say after the primary.
But, I also am thrilled that we have a cliffhanger.
What is the secret mission?
jordan holmes
What is it going to be?
dan friesen
What could it be?
I mean, he's on the road, so I would assume that it's not like going to Hawaii again.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's something that is driving-based.
jordan holmes
I feel like, let me throw this out at you, and I don't know if it's to you, or if I'm wondering if maybe somebody at InfoWars does monitor us, because here's my pitch.
Get an RV, take it on the road.
dan friesen
InfoWars on the road?
jordan holmes
The whole show on the road.
Take InfoWars on the road, man.
You're already proof of concepting it.
You don't want to go into the office.
It's restrictive.
There's legal people there.
dan friesen
Get back to the people.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Get in an RV.
dan friesen
Alex says that everyone loves him now, so it should be like he goes out in public and is just swarmed by admirers.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And nobody around you cares about you anymore.
Your family hates you.
You're ruining everything.
I'm just saying.
Alex, by yourself, hit the open road, put Chase Geyser in the back.
dan friesen
He's gonna be in the back.
jordan holmes
You gotta keep him in the back.
dan friesen
But another thing, if you're giving advice, don't sell a sold car.
Kind of.
You know what I mean?
Like...
Don't chase something that you've already done.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Trying to stake ownership over this Bohemian Grove space is stupid.
You're already the godfather of it.
You made a documentary 23 fucking years about it that melted people's minds.
Don't try and revisit this territory and fight people for scraps.
This is beneath you.
jordan holmes
You gotta come up with something new.
dan friesen
It's not beneath you, but it's beneath people.
jordan holmes
It's not beneath you.
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
It's a poor choice of...
Places to spend your energy.
Because you're just going to end up like, why are you fighting with QAnon ding-dongs about a little bit of attention about Bohemian Grove when you own it?
jordan holmes
I mean, think about it, right?
The show, everything, it's all falling apart.
But you're Alex.
Here's what you've got now.
You've got the pitch of you got the RV.
You hit the open road.
We're going to investigate everyone's Bohemian Grove.
I bet you've got a Bohemian Grove in your hometown.
We're coming!
You know?
dan friesen
This is...
jordan holmes
I'm telling you, this is a pitch.
dan friesen
Here's what the show is.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay, okay.
dan friesen
We renovate your Bohemian Grove.
jordan holmes
That's the greatest pitch I've ever heard.
Stop drilling, you have hit oil, my friend.
dan friesen
Alex drives around in an RV.
He's like, this booming grove is tacky.
jordan holmes
This is not where you're going to do an evil ritual.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Here's what we're going to do.
dan friesen
You have a giant stone rabbit?
That's not intimidating.
Get that fucking out of here.
They pull the truck away and you see your new Bohemian Grove.
jordan holmes
Oh my god!
It's a whole new place!
We could definitely worship the devil over here!
That's great!
dan friesen
Or, flip side of this, a bar rescue...
Restaurant nightmare style, Alex comes in.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Say, your Bohemian Grove is not profitable.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so Alex comes in, retrains the staff.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
They do a cold opening.
jordan holmes
Sure, but really what it's about is like, you know, the family at the heart of the, you know, there's a family owned Bohemian Grove, right?
dan friesen
You're not going to choose corporate Bohemian Grove.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, absolutely not.
And you don't need, they don't need your help.
They don't need a TV show coming in there helping them out.
unidentified
No.
No, no, no.
dan friesen
So I think you got a lot to work with.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Alex.
These ideas are free.
jordan holmes
I think we've nailed it.
Yep, yep.
dan friesen
So, we'll be back with another episode.
We'll find out what his secret project is.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we do.
It's knowledgeright.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Blue Sky.
jordan holmes
We are on Blue Sky.
It's knowledgeright.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX.
Cart.
Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.
steve quayle
And now, here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
andy in kansas
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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