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Nov. 18, 2022 - Knowledge Fight
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#748: November 16, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan check in to see how Alex responded to Trump announcing his 2024 presidential campaign.  In this installment, Alex lies a bunch about medically assisted death, takes calls he doesn't want to deal with, and interviews a rambling weirdo with a flair for wordplay. Citations

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Main voices
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alex jones
07:49
d
dan friesen
47:01
j
jordan holmes
21:34
r
roger stone
05:15
Appearances
j
john bound
01:43
s
steve quayle
02:29
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d
donald j trump
00:43
h
harrison smith
00:49
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pastor david manning
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
donald j trump
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding me.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
E, Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your brain spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My brain spot today, Jordan, is, I don't know if it's because winter is upon us.
It went from 70 to 30 in a week.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep, yep.
dan friesen
It legitimately was like 70 degrees last Wednesday.
It really was.
That was an anomaly.
It was unseasonably warm that day.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
But 40 degrees, oof.
Anyway, I've been a little down.
Sure.
I've mentioned this to you.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
I've been having some mental health days.
People will, you know, it happens.
You know, you wrestle with some depression, that'll happen.
Even folks who don't, you know, you have some down days.
And one of the things that I have done traditionally, I need to make a change.
I need to make some kind of a change in order to sort of kick myself out of the funk a little bit, you know, sometimes.
And one of my old habits was I'd shave my head.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And I decided maybe those days should be behind me and I should get haircuts.
Probably wise.
jordan holmes
You look good with hair and you got a strong head of hair for your age, my man.
You gotta rock it while you can.
dan friesen
I guess.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I decided I still gotta shave something.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so I got a back shaver.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
unidentified
I got one of those weird arms.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you gotta shave something.
dan friesen
I have never shaved my back before in my 38 years of life.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And here's the thing.
I thought it would be super easy with one of those arm things, those long razors that you could put behind your back.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
Why would you think it would be easy?
dan friesen
Because it's a tool.
It's like, we have got this tool.
jordan holmes
Are you saying that because we've made it this far, at some point someone should have made an easy-to-use backshave?
dan friesen
I figured they had it covered.
unidentified
Yes!
dan friesen
I figured, alright, here's a problem.
It's hard to shave your back.
We have constructed this.
jordan holmes
It's an old problem!
dan friesen
In order to make it easy, we have got this weird thing.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
No, it is still not easy.
I don't think I did a good job.
And so far, the only result I've experienced because of it is it feels a little bit different and weird when I put a shirt on.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That sounds about right.
That sounds about right.
dan friesen
But hey, new experiences, right?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was...
I'm struggling to think, you know, obviously I love you.
You're my best friend.
You're my partner.
I really don't know if I've got it in me to shave your back for you.
I just don't know.
dan friesen
I didn't ask.
jordan holmes
I know you didn't ask, and that's why I'm saying this up front so we don't get into any awkward situations.
dan friesen
I appreciate that.
That's fine.
I did.
Take it in waves.
I did a little work on it, and then a couple hours later, maybe I came back and was like, I missed a little bit.
I still don't think I did a great job.
But anyway, I don't know.
I don't know what I'm going to do.
I think this is probably because I shaved my arms in anticipation of getting that tattoo that I didn't end up getting.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
I think that kicked off a, hey, what's it like?
Oh, man.
And so now I know.
jordan holmes
Oh, my first leg piece, I got my entire upper thigh whole thing done, and they shaved the whole thing.
Swear to God, for another year, I just kept shaving it.
It felt really good to be...
Smooth.
I just kept on going.
I was like, why stop now?
dan friesen
I know that from when I have shaved my head, being in the shower and water hitting your bald head feels really great.
There is something to that.
But yeah, we'll see.
We'll see what happens.
Anyway, I feel a little better.
jordan holmes
Yeah, good.
dan friesen
How about you?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot?
My bright spot is my wonderful, my perfect wife.
She had...
Both her COVID booster and her flu booster yesterday.
So this is a bright spot.
dan friesen
Her fluvid.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that functions as a PSA to everybody.
Get your booster shots and all that stuff.
dan friesen
I hear this season's flu is quite bad, both from the CDC and anecdotally from some folks I know who have fallen ill.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So I would second that.
I think it's probably a good idea.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Well, I am happy for her.
Luckily, I am immune to all infectious diseases.
So I don't have to worry about it.
It's nice.
dan friesen
That is one of the advantages of being the chosen one.
jordan holmes
One of the greats, yeah.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
I had sort of prepared that we were going to, you know, maybe go back to the past, but I've got to be honest, things are real boring in 2003.
I'm going to skip ahead.
jordan holmes
I think that's wise.
dan friesen
I'm skipping ahead to December 2003 for our next time we go back to the past, but...
Unfortunately, we were pulled back to the present by some very important things, and that is that Trump announced his candidacy to run in 2024.
And so today we will be talking about the aftermath of this on November 16th, 2022, to see how Alex wrestles with...
The reality that he's going to have to make a choice.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
And right now, it has not been a huge groundswell of excitement from what I'm hearing.
dan friesen
I would say the opposite.
jordan holmes
Everyone has apparently heard this and gone, oh God, he's just trying to get out of jail.
unidentified
Motherfucker.
dan friesen
I think some people are saying that.
Some people are saying, we did this dance already.
Some people are saying, oh God.
jordan holmes
Oh God.
dan friesen
But Alex is going to get down to...
Really, the nuts and bolts of it, he's going to talk about his feelings about this announcement.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
He's going to play all the relevant coverage and the footage from Trump's announcement.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And we'll get down to business on that, but first, Jordan, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, June, who got one of Dan's bright spot buttons, so it'd be wild if they didn't become a policy wonk at some point.
You are now a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thank you.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
I gotta say, this brings up an important point, and that is that I think that at least one of these other bright spot buttons might have gotten lost in the mail.
unidentified
I may need to make some more, because...
dan friesen
I know that one has been out, and I haven't heard back from anybody that it arrived.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And then one just went out.
So there may actually...
I think I might bump it up to five.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I think that's what I might do.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I got to figure this out, because it's really unsatisfying to send these special buttons out, and then they get lost.
jordan holmes
It is unfortunate.
dan friesen
So also, Scott T., happy birthday.
This is from Brenna, but it is also back on September 10th.
We are a little bit late, but happy birthday.
Happy birthday and you're a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Happy birthday.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Next, this is a different Dan from Chicago, parenthetically also a traitor, and I support this message.
Thank you so much, you and I are a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
You're a traitor, Dan.
alex jones
You're a traitor, Dan.
unidentified
Ooh!
dan friesen
Next, new wonk in the mix, Elliot from Melbourne, the real Melbourne in Australia, not that bullshit one in Florida that keeps on getting my packages.
Thank you so much, you and I are a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
And I believe it's Melbourne.
dan friesen
Next, Boof-a-Palooza and Burger Flippin' Squatches.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
And early Alex Jones sounds like a man with a perpetual mouthful of mashed potatoes.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Next, we have a technocrat, Jordan.
We have a technocrat in the mix.
This is a fairly special one.
This is an old, old buddy of mine.
So thank you so much to Micah Knows Where Dan's Dirty Laundry Truck Secrets Are Buried.
You're now a technocrat.
roger stone
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ!
dan friesen
Old, old buddy of mine.
One of his nicknames would actually dox him.
I'm not going to...
It also goes by Sweet Butter.
He's been known as Sweet Butter on the streets.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
Sweet Butter on the streets.
Okay.
dan friesen
He was one of the four people who lived in a house.
They were all a year older than me.
We all worked at the movie theater together.
And they lived at this house.
And I dropped out of high school.
And so I was just over at their house all the time, getting drunk, having a blast.
Just freedom in an irresponsible way.
jordan holmes
Of course, of course.
dan friesen
And so one day, I don't know exactly what it was.
It might have been a party we had over at the house.
It might have just been another night of me chugging booze.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
But I passed out on the front lawn.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
And I guess because it's a residential neighborhood and people didn't want to...
jordan holmes
Frowned upon.
Frowned upon.
dan friesen
A lot of squares.
jordan holmes
Generally speaking, frowned upon.
dan friesen
So they put a tarp on me.
jordan holmes
Well, they didn't want you to lower property values.
You can do it in one night.
If a property valuer walks by while you're on the lawn sleeping, everybody loses a grand on their values.
dan friesen
So I wake up the next morning under a tarp to someone kicking me.
And a car horn honking, and I open up the tarp, and it's Micah's little brother, and his mom is in a van picking them up to go to breakfast or something.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And, man, that was not my finest hour.
Anyway, thank you, sweet butter.
jordan holmes
Appreciate it.
If you do see a man underneath a tarp, your first thought is dead body, right?
Your first thought is dead body.
And that raises a lot more property valuation questions in my mind.
dan friesen
Not Micah's little brother.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Decided to kick me.
jordan holmes
That's not a terrible idea if you were a dead body.
dan friesen
It's not respectful.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
Anyway, we start here on the 16th.
And Alex is not jumping straight into the Trump news because there is other news.
alex jones
So that's what I wanted to start the broadcast with today is that tomorrow's news today.
I told you probably a air defense missile.
Play that clip.
We come back just to show we actually do our research, folks.
We actually study a lot of things.
We don't just sit up here and say things.
dan friesen
So Alex is obsessed with bragging about how he had knee-jerk announced that the missile that had hit...
Poland was probably a surface-to-air missile defense from Ukraine.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And now the signs are pointing to that being the case.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so he got something right accidentally.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And he is so excited about it.
jordan holmes
By virtue of knee-jerk defending anything Russia does, he may have inadvertently got it right.
dan friesen
And so he plays the clip of himself saying this on a previous show.
jordan holmes
Oh my god, of course he does.
dan friesen
Incessantly.
jordan holmes
Over and over again.
Totally nailed it.
Nailed it!
dan friesen
That's what's leading the show.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I was right about it.
I was potentially right about something.
jordan holmes
This is exactly like if he was in his office and he just threw a ball of paper all the way across into a garbage can and nobody saw it, but it was recorded so he's like, I'm just going to play this.
You guys see this?
I nailed it!
Right in the bin!
dan friesen
Good job, man.
Good job.
We're proud of you.
jordan holmes
No, I did it!
dan friesen
So now on to Trump.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
The big news and joining us is Roger Stone.
I want to play several clips here and then go to Roger.
This is Trump last night making the big announcement.
He is running for 2024.
We told you months ago that he had told people very close to the president and very close to this show that indeed he was running.
The only question was when.
So we are tomorrow's news today.
dan friesen
You're not vindicated.
You said he was going to do it on the 4th of July.
jordan holmes
Strategic flexibility was roughly five months ago.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I mean, like, that's not fair.
jordan holmes
No, that's not fair.
dan friesen
You can't do that.
unidentified
Uh-uh.
jordan holmes
Doesn't count.
Doesn't count.
Negative points.
dan friesen
And I think just about anybody, like...
Could have and did predict Trump was going to run again.
Yeah.
I think that's not like the wildest tomorrow's news today kind of shit.
Especially when you were so wrong about the, he's set to announce.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
This is like predicting that it was a Ukraine anti-defense missile, but it was in the next war that I got it.
Now, it wasn't this war, okay?
But 10 years from now, it's the next war that I nailed that one.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think he could probably gain a little bit of like, ha-ha, I wasn't far off, if Trump announced on July 7th.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And, you know, we'll talk.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So, Alex plays some clips, and here's one of them.
alex jones
And then Trump says, we will take America back, and we will put a stop to these electronic systems immediately, demand voter ID, same-day voting, and only paper ballots.
Here is the president announcing in his key statement.
donald j trump
I am tonight announcing my candidacy for President of the United States.
unidentified
Thank you.
donald j trump
We will do whatever it takes to bring back honesty, confidence and trust in our elections.
To eliminate cheating...
I will immediately demand voter ID, same-day voting, and only paper ballots.
dan friesen
So Alex plays a few clips of Trump's speech, but he doesn't play some of them that I think were really troubling.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
One that I think he maybe should have commented on was when he called cities in America cesspools of blood.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
Cesspools of blood?
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
I don't know if that even makes grammatic sense.
dan friesen
He said that we're going to go to Mars.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Based on Mars, for sure.
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
It's happening.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
There was a period where he got lost in the term corridors of power.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And he kept talking about how we're going to take the corridors back.
unidentified
He clearly was off script and just like, I want those corridors.
jordan holmes
Gotta have those corridors.
dan friesen
But the most important thing I think that Alex needs to rebut here or talk about is Trump went on a quite protracted rant about how you need to kill drug dealers.
jordan holmes
Sure.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
He was saying that in China they have quick trials where they would catch a drug dealer and then have a quick trial and then that night they'd be executed.
And that's what we've got to do here in America.
And he even said, quote, it's the only way.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
80% of the people I have ever met have dealt drugs at one point or another.
To me!
dan friesen
They'd be all dead.
Yeah, I think that's a little bit unhinged.
I think it's a...
Is that real?
Well, I mean, like, I would say almost...
You know, a large portion of the country is leaning much, much more towards decriminalization.
Right!
More states are legalizing recreational use of marijuana, and Trump is like, no, fucking kill them.
jordan holmes
That is wild.
Of all the things that I would have expected, I mean, listen, far be it for me to not have my pulse on the modern voter, but I don't think you can go from paper ballots is the hallmark of my campaign, and also...
State murder on a daily basis.
dan friesen
Well, sure.
I mean, it would be outrageous the amount of murder you would be doing as a state.
jordan holmes
It would be so much murder.
dan friesen
So Alex should have a principled opposition to this on that point.
jordan holmes
Less murder.
dan friesen
It should be so offensive to him to hear as a libertarian.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So that's one.
And then two, Trump is talking about this as something that he talked to Xi about.
And this is something that China does well.
And Alex should be offended by the idea of taking policy decisions from communist China.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm wondering if conservatives are aware so far...
That from their Tea Party beginnings, they have conservative themselves all the way into thinking Sharia law is actually pretty great, as long as we don't call it that.
We call it Christian law.
dan friesen
Put a little bit of a different branding.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and why not have a dictatorship and murder people all the time?
dan friesen
Right.
Do you want a dime sack?
jordan holmes
Real small government stuff here is, listen.
You can't be...
We gotta kill him.
We gotta kill 40% of America right now.
dan friesen
It's...
I mean, look, that obviously was maybe Trump going a little off script than his prepared remarks.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I would hope.
jordan holmes
Who knows?
dan friesen
Because a lot of it was so boring because he's just reading.
Like, he's just reading a prepared thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he can't do that.
dan friesen
He obviously didn't write.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And that part was...
Deeply upsetting.
And I think, based on Alex's response especially, I question whether Alex watched the full hour speech.
I imagine he might not have.
jordan holmes
I question anybody.
dan friesen
And second, if he has, then I would say that the goal or the move is just like, well, that's bad.
But let's pretend he didn't say that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Let's just...
Let's just go around the side of that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I feel like that seems to be the main move for just about everybody at this point.
Let's just pretend he didn't say anything.
Let's just get out.
dan friesen
Those really, really troubling things didn't happen.
So Alex, now that Trump has announced, has a feeling about this.
alex jones
I'll say this.
I've been on the fence about Trump to Santas because I see it as a civil war and a distraction.
But seeing all the neocons and the Democrats in the deep state and Ivanka and Jared come out against her own dad really makes me like Trump more.
And watching the entire media pile on really makes me like Trump more.
Just reminding me how much the power structure absolutely hates his guts.
dan friesen
This is so annoying.
This is so annoying.
jordan holmes
The more this boat runs into this iceberg, the more I think this Titanic is going to make it.
I think if we keep ramming this iceberg a little bit harder, I know we're taking on water right now, but I think we can push through.
dan friesen
Everybody hates this guy, and I gotta say...
Like him.
I like that about him.
jordan holmes
Pushes him to the top of my list.
dan friesen
Such an idiot.
jordan holmes
His own family wishes murder on him.
Puts him at my highest list.
That's how you know he's good.
dan friesen
So, Roger is on.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Which is also a sign.
You know, like, if you're having Roger on for the response, that means you want pro-Trump coverage.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And Roger not only thinks...
That the 2016 election they tried to steal.
The 2020 election was stolen.
The 2022 midterm was stolen.
jordan holmes
Why not?
unidentified
But what about 1888?
That's a good question.
roger stone
This is obviously a challenging history, Alex.
Only once in our American history has a president, Grover Cleveland, was elected in 1885.
In 1888, it was stolen from him in a disputed election, where he clearly, by the way, got a majority of the popular vote.
And then he came back in 1893.
The energy in the room last night reminded me of 2015 and 2016.
It was the old Trump, the old anti-establishment Trump.
He was very disciplined.
He was very much...
On message.
dan friesen
That is not true.
You ranted about killing drug dealers for a bit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but you just say it.
dan friesen
It was old Trump in both senses of the word.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Grover Cleveland was robbed, man.
jordan holmes
I mean, I do recall he won the popular vote and there was some shady backroom dealing, but it's important to remember he won the popular vote.
He did not lose the popular vote in all of his elections and then was like, ah, I was robbed!
dan friesen
Right.
If the standard of winning an election is the popular vote, Republicans will never win again.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Yeah, it's all over.
So that doesn't count in your mind.
dan friesen
You shouldn't use that.
jordan holmes
You gotta pretend that doesn't happen.
dan friesen
Also, you had to go back 240 years or whatever.
No. 140 years.
jordan holmes
It was not the most recent of elections.
dan friesen
So, um...
jordan holmes
If you're still in the Reconstruction era, it's been a tick.
dan friesen
So, Alex, uh, you know, like, look, man, people hate Trump, and I like it.
I like it!
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
I saw where Rupert Murdoch reportedly called Trump like he did six, seven years ago and said...
If you continue to run, I'm not going to support you.
I'm going to support a Democrat.
Well, I mean, he did that before, and then flip-flopped back to Trump later, so I see this as a feather in Trump's cap that he's got the establishment lined up against him, and not good for DeSantis having them lined up for him.
That does not bode well for DeSantis, even though I really like DeSantis.
dan friesen
Okay.
So in fairness, Rupert Murdoch hates Trump as a person, and has for a long time, before his 2016 run.
Trump was a big media figure, and Murdoch is in the publishing business, including Tabloid-ass magazine, so they weren't unfamiliar with each other at that point.
Gradually, Jared Kushner convinced Murdoch to sit down and talk with Trump, and this led to Murdoch realizing that Trump was actually running, and that all signs pointed to him being the inevitable Republican nominee, so he endorsed him.
I'm sure he would have preferred a different primary candidate to have won the nomination, but I don't think he was going to back Hillary.
I think he would have just been like, I don't like this guy.
Fuck.
Alright, fine.
He's running.
unidentified
Gah.
jordan holmes
Important to keep in mind as people keep trying to throw narratives around at people long before anything even close to a presidential election is run is that, hey...
Fuck all of these, oh, they're arguing bullshit.
At the end of the day, they're gonna get in line behind racism.
Let's calm it down, guys.
Okay?
dan friesen
I mean, 2016 should teach a lot of lessons about the primary and how sort of humiliated so many people were who were trying to take Trump out in the primary.
jordan holmes
And then they fell in line like the cowards and weaklings they are.
dan friesen
Yeah, good stuff.
So, Alex is really just...
Kind of trying to justify supporting Trump, basically.
I mean, that's the overall vibe you're getting here.
alex jones
Back to Trump and his announcement.
I've said, look, start coming out more against the shots.
Start coming out and saying no mandates, which he's already done.
And really hammer, stay away from children.
And now more and more Trump's doing that.
So he's moving in the right direction.
Here he is last night.
donald j trump
I will get Biden's radical left ideology out of our military, and I did.
I did.
What?
What?
unidentified
Is that how it works?
donald j trump
It was gone.
We will abolish every Biden COVID mandate and rehire every patriot who was fired from our military with an apology and full back pay.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What are we talking about?
dan friesen
We're talking about hiring vaccine denier folk who didn't want to get a vaccine.
We're going to hire them back with full back pay to the military.
jordan holmes
Right.
I understand conservatives live in wacky doodle world, and that's great.
But I just didn't know that that was a thing that would get an applause.
Wouldn't somebody be like, hey, what about...
All of the other problems that we're facing.
dan friesen
Oh, you're talking about, like, drug dealers living?
jordan holmes
Well, see, now I would have gone with a different policy thing again.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
His announced policies sound like an insane person's diary.
dan friesen
No, you're not wrong.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So, but one thing you're not getting here is a visual on Trump.
jordan holmes
No, I'm not.
Thank God.
dan friesen
So I'm going to allow a little bit of a, you know, there's a paint a picture for you.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
Now, let me add another good point.
Trump looks great.
Put that photo up from last night with Roger and his wife and Trump.
You guys all look great, but man, Trump looks like he's lost 60 pounds or something.
dan friesen
Dude looks good.
jordan holmes
I just...
Fine.
Fine.
dan friesen
Dude looks good.
jordan holmes
Great.
Great.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Good.
dan friesen
Looks presidential.
60 pounds down.
jordan holmes
I still don't care, but fine.
unidentified
He's plumping.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He's plumping.
jordan holmes
Is he filling it up with blood?
dan friesen
Ten bags of blood.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
No wonder.
He's even oranger than usual.
He's on his tenth bag of blood today.
dan friesen
Oh, he's plumping for sure.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
So Roger has some feelings about the House of Representatives now that it looks like the GOP is going to be in control.
Okay.
He has some dumb ideas.
jordan holmes
Okay.
roger stone
The caucus vote in which Kevin McCarthy was selected over Andrew Biggs.
is essentially meaningless.
It does not make McCarthy Speaker.
The only vote that makes him Speaker is the vote of the full House in early January.
At that juncture, he has to have at least 218 votes to become Speaker.
Now, Congressman Matt Gaetz has said publicly that he has the votes to block that election.
He doesn't need but a handful to block that election.
And all eyes are going to be on Matt Gaetz.
He's a pretty good politician.
alex jones
No, I mean, I agree.
So why is Trump endorsing, and I really didn't like that last night, fawning all over Kevin McCarthy?
roger stone
I find that problematic myself.
I've argued against it.
Look, I can't explain Trump.
dan friesen
Hey, you know what?
jordan holmes
I want somebody who won't listen to anybody and doesn't change his mind even if he's wrong.
dan friesen
So Matt Gaetz will absolutely not become Speaker of the House, and if he does try to pull a power play, he could fuck around and cause some really undesirable outcomes.
The only way that this works is if he holds the party hostage.
If Gaetz has like seven votes that commit to not flipping no matter what, he could threaten to tank the GOP winning the Speakership.
In that situation, I guess he could try to force the rest of the GOP reps to get in line with him or let a Democrat be Speaker, but I don't see that possibility happening.
I think the best that you can do, and I mean, this is kind of just decent politics, is threaten to do this, and then negotiate some kind of a concession with McCarthy, try and get maybe some positions in some committees and stuff.
jordan holmes
He has leverage, use it to get what he wants.
dan friesen
Exactly, but you're not going to get to be the speaker.
McCarthy is going to be the speaker.
And that is why Trump is being nice to him, because they live in a reality.
jordan holmes
I would say that Matt Gaetz is probably smart enough to realize that if his profile goes up any higher, people are finally going to put him in jail where he belongs.
I'm pretty sure he's a criminal of many different types.
dan friesen
I think he probably...
He strikes me as the sort...
Who would love to be a speaker in that role.
Sure.
I think he would, but the reality of these numbers just doesn't work for him.
He would have to essentially...
The role, really, of the majority leader or the speaker in party leadership is about corralling votes.
It's about getting people on the same page.
And if you have seven people or whatever that you're holding the vote hostage for, it's going to be very difficult for you to take on the leadership position of all of those people you've just pissed off and forced yourself to be in charge of.
I know that Roger knows this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And he's being a little bit dumb.
jordan holmes
No, it's wise to take a...
I mean, hey, in any negotiating position, you start by saying, I would like 100%...
Of what it is that we're going to go for.
And they're like, how about we give you ten?
And then you argue from there.
You know, like Matt Gaetz said, I'm going to be the Speaker of the House.
And they're like, instead, how about you get a nice chair?
And he's like, I like a nice chair.
You know, like, that's how it works.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He gets it.
dan friesen
You'll end up with a committee position or something and everybody will move on.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, look, Roger has some harsh words for DeSantis.
He is clearly now coming on to a more Trump...
Sure.
Where he was kind of like, eh, both sides.
Alex, as a DeSantis is better about the vaccines narrative.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And Roger wants Alex to get off that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
roger stone
But to go back to the point you made at the very top, and I want to be very clear about this, his position on vaccinations is identical to that of Ron DeSantis.
If I need to bring you the video of Ron advocating the shot and saying it will protect you from infection...
I can do that.
alex jones
No, I remember Trump and DeSantis being wrong.
It's just that DeSantis has been...
I've been coming out against it more and put in that good surgeon general that I really like trying to save kids.
All I've been trying to do is, see, I'm not a politician.
I'm not trying to be part of a political system.
I'm an issue person.
And so I want Trump to really hurt these poison shots and save more people.
I'll forgive him for being bamboozled into it.
So I'm simply operating on the issues.
And I know you do as well, but you operate in a political area.
I don't, Roger.
roger stone
All I'm saying is today, both of them oppose mandatory vaccinations.
Both of them oppose vaccinations for those in the military.
Both of them oppose the masking of our children.
Their positions are identical.
Rhetorically, you're right.
The governor has been more aggressive about it.
But at the end of the day, their positions are identical.
dan friesen
It's interesting how Alex is just like, I'm an issue guy, and my issue is I hate vaccines.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And if Trump will just do the thing that I want him to do, I'll write a story where he's fine.
I'll come up with a way to convince myself that it's all good because he's doing what I want him to do.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
That's about it.
dan friesen
Cool.
jordan holmes
I do appreciate the I'm an issues guy, and my issues are if everyone, including his family, hates him, that makes me think he's a pretty good guy for the job.
dan friesen
I think that that's not an issue for me.
jordan holmes
That seems like that should be an issue.
dan friesen
So, Roger wants DeSantis to stay governor.
roger stone
I want him to continue the job he's doing as governor, where in the last two years of his term, he's been very strong.
He's 42 years old.
He's got plenty of time.
I say it yet again.
If he wants to run...
It's his prerogative.
I think he clears the field.
I'm not sure he can sustain a longer conversation.
He's very good in a controlled environment.
He's very good when he controls the microphone.
But in a wide-open, free-of-fighting debate with a brawler like Donald Trump, I think Trump has personality.
He has presence.
He often has a self-deprecating humor.
The governor's kind of charmless in that regard.
dan friesen
Trump has, like, a lot of ways you could describe his humor, but self-deprecating isn't one of them.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
He started his speech where he was announcing his candidacy with...
We are the greatest movement, perhaps, that has ever happened in the greatest country on Earth.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
We are...
It's not self-deprecating.
jordan holmes
In a way, you could read it that way because it's so narcissistic that you'd think, well, there's no way a reasonable human being would be anything but cleverly sarcastic about this absurd thing to say.
dan friesen
Even if he's operating in the realm of parody, I don't think it's still self-deprecating.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely not.
dan friesen
Wow, I don't think that it would have been appropriate to say something like that about Ron DeSantis two days ago.
jordan holmes
I would say...
dan friesen
He can't handle himself except in a controlled environment.
He's charisma-less.
jordan holmes
I think what Roger just said there was...
Trump is going to make him mad and then DeSantis is going to wind up dropping all the slurs that he doesn't say on the regular.
It's that kind of thing.
dan friesen
Trump is going to be a dick to him and then he's not going to know how to handle it and he's going to look like an idiot.
jordan holmes
He's going to look like a fucking idiot.
Although, I will say, I was fairly confident that that's how it would go and will go up until I read Trump's insult to Ron DeSanctimonious.
dan friesen
Someone else wrote that.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's garbage sauce.
That's garbage sauce.
dan friesen
It's a first attempt.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's bad.
If that's what he's going to come with, I'm not worried about Ron DeSantis getting mad.
dan friesen
I don't think we're in the throwing hands phase of this.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
This is still just opening Ron DeSantis.
jordan holmes
A little jab.
Okay.
I'll let it go.
dan friesen
We'll see how you respond.
jordan holmes
We'll see how it goes.
dan friesen
All right.
So Alex, I'm not going to say who he's picking.
roger stone
Sure.
dan friesen
Between Trump and DeSantis.
jordan holmes
We all know.
dan friesen
Although it's pretty fucking clear.
alex jones
We all know!
I'm not going to say which man I'm supporting, but I think overall Trump is the better choice.
He enrages the system.
They're totally scared of him, and seeing the establishment get behind DeSantis makes my skin crawl, but I don't blame DeSantis for that.
dan friesen
Okay, so I'm not going to say who I'm in favor of, but one guy I'm only going to say positive things about, and then the other one I'm going to say a negative thing about.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So you could decide.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
But I'm not going to say who I like.
jordan holmes
I am hedging my bets in the least hedgeable way.
I am going to bet it all 99% on this one and then 1% on the other.
So you know that I have not yet decided between the two.
dan friesen
You know what we call that?
jordan holmes
We call that what?
dan friesen
Strategic flexibility.
jordan holmes
I like it.
dan friesen
So Roger has an explanation for the midterms.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Now, we remember boats from North Korea.
jordan holmes
I recall that.
dan friesen
They were involved in 2020.
jordan holmes
Right.
So, Roger's got to really up his game here.
dan friesen
No, he does not.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
I mean, this is the Ron DeSantis.
The game is low.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
roger stone
Whether we nominate former President Donald Trump or whether we nominate Governor DeSantis or who we nominate, if we can't have free, fair, honest, transparent elections, What's just happened in Arizona is an abomination.
The ballots that were tested the night before the election are the correct 19 inches long.
On election day, the paper ballots that are sent to only Republican precincts are 20 inches long.
The machines are specifically made not Not to accept them.
In one case, an election judge I spoke to said a person tried to get the tabulator to receive their ballot 15 times and it was rejected.
Well, it's rejected because the trays inside the tabulator are not made to take that paper.
Now, this wasn't done by accident.
This was done willfully.
dan friesen
So apparently, the globalists know that they couldn't get away with election hacking fraud this time, and that too many people were out looking for the ballot mules, so they couldn't box stuff.
You know, that's just no good.
So the only way they could think to steal the election was sending ballots an inch too big to Republican polling places.
jordan holmes
Here's what I like about their terrible plans.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
All right.
One, the globalists have terrible plans because these people have terrible plans and no imagination.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Right.
The thing about it is, There are diminishing returns there.
Their best idea is a bad plan.
unidentified
Whoa.
jordan holmes
And they wasted that two years ago.
So now we're all the way down to bad plan number 55. And the globalist bad plan is, aha, at an inch.
dan friesen
You know how obvious this would be to trace back?
Like, in terms of the production orders of, like, who made it an inch bigger?
jordan holmes
Absolutely!
This is a terrible plan!
dan friesen
The organization that would be required in order to do this would leave such a, I mean, if you pardon the expression, a paper trail.
jordan holmes
It would be very obvious.
dan friesen
So I'm excited to see that investigation come out.
jordan holmes
Yeah, good luck, Roger.
dan friesen
So this is based on a theory that was published in the Gateway Pundit, relying wholly on the expertise of one person, a guy named Dan Sundin.
At the end of this article in Gateway Pundit, there's a hat tip to David and Aaron Clements, who presumably brought this all to the attention of Jim Hoft's twin brother.
David Clements is a New Mexico State University business school professor who's been suspended from his position because of vaccine and mask mandates that he was protesting.
jordan holmes
Sounds right.
dan friesen
So he's going to be rehired with back pay.
jordan holmes
Of course.
Any moment now.
dan friesen
Actually, he was suspended with pay.
So he's gotten to collect a salary while he's gone on tour around the country, appearing at rallies about how the 2020 election was stolen, among other various right-wing conspiracy topics.
He's been on that Reawaken America tour.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Clements has been making interview videos on Rumble about election fraud nonsense since 2020, and he's interviewed luminaries like Ron Watkins and, naturally, Dan Sundin.
The two of them are associates in this election fraud stuff over the years.
It's not like he's some unbiased expert who the Gateway Sure, sure, sure.
jordan holmes
They're getting the band back together.
dan friesen
I have no idea who Dan Sundin is, other than that his resume is always written super vague on all of these websites.
He is an expert, though, I know that.
I can tell you one thing about him, and that he is not the same Dan Sundin who's on the FBI's most wanted list for cybercrimes.
jordan holmes
Not the same one.
dan friesen
It is not the same guy, because I watched a video interview with the guy from the election fraud conspiracies, and he looks nothing like the FBI's most wanted flyer.
jordan holmes
Plastic surgery is what you're arguing here.
dan friesen
I don't think...
Well, I mean, you could age.
jordan holmes
Hide in plain sight.
Hide in plain sight, you know?
dan friesen
I'm fairly convinced that it...
I'm 100% convinced it's not the same person.
jordan holmes
Of course it's not.
dan friesen
But it is a unique enough name that I was pretty...
I was like, wait a second.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is.
I have not heard many Dan Sundance before.
dan friesen
Both in the field of technology.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
That's a little odd.
dan friesen
But yeah, not the criminal.
Anyway, Alex was right about this missile thing.
And so Roger needs to congratulate him about it.
jordan holmes
Sure.
roger stone
Alex, this is really quite extraordinary.
Look, I got up late today because I was up celebrating the historic announcement of Donald Trump.
And therefore, when I went to bed, I heard that Russian missiles had attacked Poland.
Then when I came on your broadcast, I saw you laying out the truth.
Then I went online figuring that, well, everybody else will probably be saying the same thing Alex is saying.
And you know what, Alex?
Nobody other than Infowars, by and large, is reporting the truth.
This underlines the importance of Infowars and why they are so desperate to take you down.
This underlies the importance of Infowars and why I so value this platform and this forum, because I know whenever there is a concerted effort...
At propaganda, regardless what the issue, whether it's Donald Trump or whether it's Governor DeSantis or whether it's the situation in Ukraine or whether it's what the Red Chinese are up to, the safest place to go to find out what is really going on.
And it's put out there fearlessly.
and with the knowledge that we're going to be attacked as conspiracy theorists and nutjobs and extremists, and this one always makes me laugh, white supremacists.
unidentified
This is such bullshit.
dan friesen
Like, these assholes pat themselves on the back so hard, every time one of the random denials they make accidentally happens to end up being accurate.
Alex did say that he thought the missile that hit Poland was a surface-to-air missile from Ukraine, and it's now appearing that that is the case.
But...
It's so dishonest for him to pretend he was the only person talking about this.
A Newsweek article from a day before this episode was recorded said, quote, The Associated Press initially cited an unnamed senior US intelligence confirming that Russia was indeed behind the cross-border strike.
Hours later, the same outlet cited three US officials who said preliminary assessments suggest the missile was fired by Ukrainian forces in an attempt to intercept an incoming Russian missile.
On the same day as this episode, Business Insider published an article including, quote, a statement from the office of Poland's president said it was highly probable that Ukraine had launched the surface-to-air missile in response to...
Sure.
There were a lot of people, some random people on Twitter and some in official positions.
Who are jumping the gun to blame Russia.
That is fair enough.
But what Alex and Roger are doing is just as bad as any of those people.
They're manufacturing a fake consensus that they stand in opposition to.
They're pretending that everybody in the media, everyone in government, all the power establishment were pushing the message that Russia did this on purpose and that Article 5 should be invoked.
And that it was only Infowars, the wrongly maligned but always right truth tellers, who had the courage to stand up and say that it looks like it could be a surface-to-air missile.
This is an illusion.
They weren't the only ones to voice this kind of concern and this possibility.
This is a white supremacist outlet, and they're constantly wrong about almost everything.
Alex didn't think Putin was going to try and invade past the Donbass, and said that Zelensky was a double agent working for Putin.
He said that Russia had paid off the Ukrainian army, so the war was only going to last a few days.
He said that Putin was going to probably nuke us tomorrow for like the last two months.
And I think...
he needs to bring these things up.
He's played this clip of him saying the missile was a surface-to-air missile three times on this episode, I believe.
And I think...
And think about every time he has to answer for how he's constantly wrong about everything.
He just yells Jussie Smollett and thinks like, okay, great.
Alex makes a gigantic deal out of these rare instances and pretends the thousands of times he's been wrong never happened because this has the effect of subtly tricking the audience into thinking that he's right way more frequently than he actually is.
It's a pretty simple and very intentional manipulation tactic and I guess it works.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the weird thing is this is probably...
The one spot where you could really kind of dig in with a conspiracy theory that just kind of works either way.
If you're saying to me that the conspiracy theory is all the governments involved in this, except for the Ukrainian government, have kind of correctly realized that if it is Russian missiles, they did fire them, and even if it was an accident, it did cross over into Poland.
That's a real big problem.
And that maybe, if it's an accident, maybe we all just say, oh, Ukraine made the accident, and then it's less of a problem.
It's still a problem.
But it's not the same problem now, is it?
Now, if we find out six years later they do the investigation and that's true, fine.
That's great.
It's just, why are you saying that you got this part right?
This is a boring part.
dan friesen
I understand what you're saying.
jordan holmes
It's a boring narrative.
dan friesen
Alex's conspiracy should be what you're saying.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
He should be elevating his conspiracy game.
dan friesen
But he can't because that would require him to say that Russia did do it.
jordan holmes
Right, but I mean, then he also gets to say...
Everybody in the West is lying.
I mean, it's so confusing.
dan friesen
Right, but they're lying in a way that is advantageous to Russia.
And his angle would be that Russia did actually attack a NATO country.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
I think he would have some problems spinning this yarn.
jordan holmes
That would be tough to fit in his overall worldview, but that is right there.
It's not far off.
dan friesen
I mean, if you're talking about just writing a conspiracy theory...
You're right.
It does have more intriguing yarns to pull or threads to pull as it were.
So you gotta support Infowars.
We know this.
And there's a reason.
jordan holmes
He owes a billion and a half dollars?
dan friesen
Well, that's the real reason.
But there's a storytelling reason too.
alex jones
So the media makes fun of Roger Stone selling t-shirts and signed stones.
Well, we go to the people.
It's a badge of honor.
It's a badge of how we're grassroots that we fund ourselves with books and films and high-quality supplements and things that you need.
And so, please, you're not going to get the information we're about to cover next hour anywhere else.
The euthanasia of children has now begun.
I'm sorry, what?
Healthy ones in places like Canada, and it's already starting here.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
We've got two powerful special reports on that.
It's even worse than I was reporting on yesterday.
I'm going to start the next hour on that.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
So, yeah, they're euthanizing children, and that's why you've got to support Infowars.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
So, just sort of a content warning, I guess.
I don't think anything is too severe, but there's going to be a lot of conversation about, like, assisted suicide.
I know that some people maybe have some feelings about that, so just be forewarned.
That's going to be a...
Much like Raptors, it will factor heavily into this conversation.
So here's...
Alex, we always love it when he tells us about how we belong to the city.
jordan holmes
We do belong to the city.
dan friesen
But sometimes there's other songs.
That he rants over.
jordan holmes
We can belong to many places.
dan friesen
And if I'm like a judge, I'm giving this one a 4.7.
unidentified
Ooh.
alex jones
Out of 10....to be in this position and persecuted by the most evil forces in the history of this planet.
Their covert operations have now been drawn out in the open.
The process of them trying to break us with the process of their downfall and destruction.
It has been foretold.
And now, we see it all beginning to manifest.
Because the mind of man is made in the image of God.
What we envision, over time, we are able to realize.
That's why they feed us ugliness and death and destruction and tell us we're trash.
So we manifest the dystopic system that Hollywood spreads.
But we will manifest the blueprint that God has given us and our stairway to heaven.
All right, I want to do this.
Some stations don't carry this segment, and this is some big news.
So I'm going to come back in with the latest developments on the next big rollout that they've been beta testing, and that is forced government-intimidated social credit score suicide.
unidentified
Wow.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think I mostly gave it a 4.7 because I think that song's alright.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean...
dan friesen
There's no passion there.
jordan holmes
He doesn't have the timing right at the beginning.
He's talking over the wrong parts.
And there's just songs that have it.
There's just an it to You Belong to the City that makes it perfect for yelling nonsense over it.
dan friesen
And nothing against that song.
I think that song, I don't know what it is, but it sounds like something I could definitely have on in the background and enjoy.
Not a bad song.
For an Alex rant, I'm not entirely sure.
jordan holmes
It doesn't have it.
dan friesen
No.
But I think, I've started to crack the code, I think.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I think Alex really just likes saying, and now.
jordan holmes
He likes it.
Who hasn't spent a couple of days getting into the La Fontaine for a little too long?
Come on.
dan friesen
It has been foretold.
jordan holmes
In a world.
dan friesen
Such a dork.
jordan holmes
It is, you know, you can't.
In a world.
dan friesen
So, here we go.
Alex gets down to business and cites these two stories that he has regarding assisted suicide that he is now claiming is killing children, euthanizing children, and government social credit score, blah, blah, blah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, put them both together.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
There are two reports that tie into all of this.
We're going to be getting to.
Canadian government preparing to euthanize children without parental consent.
It's one of the reports, and then globalist push, mass suicide.
dan friesen
So these are the two stories that Alex is operating off of, and I guess they prove that the government is trying to force people into being euthanized.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
The first headline that he read is, you know, it's about this Canadian law, and it's just the title of a Greg Reese video that was cribbing mostly from a Tucker Carlson segment, and that segment itself is reporting on an article that was posted on Barry Weiss's Substack.
all of this just boils down to the Canadian Parliament passing a revision to their medical assistants in dying legislation also known as their MAID legislation about who is eligible to receive that care.
This revision was passed in March 2021, but it doesn't take effect until next year.
Right, right, right, All right.
The revision also specified, quote, that persons whose sole underlying medical condition is mental illness are not eligible for medical assistance in dying.
That is something that is obscured by Tucker's coverage, and then now Alex is just completely lying about.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Even if you take everything that Tucker says in his report as truth, the person who he's basing his entire story on is 23 years old, so this is not a child.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
The headline, quote, globalists push mass suicide, is just a video that was posted on band.video.
It's a John Bowne report.
It's just, a lot of it is...
Covering similar territory and some of Alex, you know, talking about how the globalists want to kill every one.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
The second headline is not even worth paying attention to, but the first one does bring up a fairly important conversation, which is the sticky issues around assisted end-of-life care.
Obviously, I do support access to this kind of care, but there are cases where things can be a little bit complicated.
I do think that these are things that people should be talking about, but the perspectives of folks like Tucker and Alex are worthless.
They aren't dealing with the issues as they actually exist.
They're creating a fake version of the issue to use as a prop to attack their political enemies and keep their audiences in fear about how they're going to force your kids to be euthanized or whatever.
I'm going to play a little bit of the Greg Reese report.
It is kind of a weird situation that actually I have a suggested solution to, and Alex and his whole crew don't.
So anyway, here's the intro that Alex gives to the Gregory's Report.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
Big Pharma, owned by the Big Banks to the UN, the WF, is promoting government extermination of the mentally ill and the physically disabled, calling it liberal and trendy.
Bill Gates' death panels on steroids.
Here is a critical Gregory's Report, and I'll give you the rest of the story.
dan friesen
First of all, I can't believe that Alex doesn't call these Reese's Pieces.
It's such a fucking missed opportunity.
jordan holmes
You can't do it.
Yes, I can.
No, you'd get a cease and desist.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
That would happen instantly.
dan friesen
It's a piece.
jordan holmes
It's a news piece.
No, you'd get a cease and desist from Reese himself.
dan friesen
A Reese's Cease?
jordan holmes
Not even the company.
A Reese's Ceases.
Yeah, you should watch out for his Reese's Pieces.
No, come on.
dan friesen
Reese's Pieces would be so good.
I don't think they'd get sued.
Yeah.
unidentified
Come on.
jordan holmes
When he goes to church, he's always talking about Reese's Jesus.
dan friesen
Anyway, this is a completely inaccurate description of this report or the entire underlying story.
jordan holmes
Sure, of course.
dan friesen
But here is the beginning of the report.
john bound
The film Soylent Green was made in 1973.
It was made of people.
Spoiler.
unidentified
One of the most pleasant experience one could have is state assisted suicide.
john bound
While government run media pushes the idea of cannibalism, government assisted suicide is officially now a thing in 2022.
Before COVID, you could always count on modern medicine to keep you alive so long as you had the money or insurance to pay for it.
But these days, the hospitals seem more likely to liquidate you.
And in Canada, they will help you kill yourself.
Even if you don't really want to die.
unidentified
Amir Farsud has applied for medically assisted dying known as MAID.
He lives in constant agony due to a back injury but has started the process for end of life because his rooming house is up for sale and he can't find anywhere else to live that he can afford.
He barely survives on Ontario disability support payments which are just over $1,200 a month.
He doesn't want to die but being homeless is not an option.
I know in my present health condition I would survive it anyway.
dan friesen
There is no answer in Alex's world for this problem other than to let Farsud die on the street.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They would be opposed to the government paying for his housing.
They would be opposed to the government providing him with free health care.
So what's the actual answer here?
I'm not saying that Farsud should go to assisted suicide because of the circumstances like this, but I think that this situation does highlight a really sticky issue where the reality of what he's living through brings into focus how cruel the system itself actually is.
This video from the Canadian News is about a month old, and by the point Reese is making this video, Farsud had actually launched a successful GoFundMe, and he'd raised $60,000 to secure his housing, and he'd gone public that he no longer...
Right.
Marsud has a really good perspective on the ethical issue about how his poverty was driving his thinking.
From a Toronto City News article, quote, He said government should be focusing on fixing the issues causing poverty rather than the moral ramifications of those in poverty seeking MAID.
Quote, I think the proper solution is to not have that problem is to alleviate what's causing the problem.
If society is concerned about people like me and like the half million other people on ODSP in poverty, then bring them out of poverty.
That's the obvious solution.
If they were out of poverty and they had a roof over their head and food in their mouths, I guarantee you made wouldn't be a consideration.
The whole debate would become superfluous.
I'm certain that Infowars will not follow up on the story and cover this comment from Farsud because they aren't interested in this perspective.
They want to use him as a prop to build up a fraudulent argument that the government is trying to force people to kill themselves, but they'd honestly be pretty fine with letting him die on the street, especially if they knew that they could call him a communist for his ideas or whatever.
But this is a little bit of a difficult...
He has an underlying chronic health condition that is miserable for him to live with without proper care and a place to live.
And his poverty is threatening access to that medical care and the place to live.
Obviously, the solution isn't, well, medically assisted suicide.
But it highlights how someone in that situation would look at that as like, well, I'm going to die on the street anyway.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know?
That's stark.
jordan holmes
The clear point is almost kind of too simple insofar as like, what is the point of the government, of all of us together, if we can't even get the simple Maslow's hierarchy of needs handled, you know?
And if you're saying that I can't have access to food, water, or shelter...
Consistently or guaranteed.
If I can't have guaranteed access to those, then death is...
Borderline a lateral move, or at the very least, I'm living right next to it every single day of my life.
That's what he's expressing.
Really, what you're saying is, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
We want God to kill you.
We don't want you to have control over anything.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I just, I think that beyond this report being embarrassingly produced, it doesn't...
It doesn't really touch on what the real issue is here or what the subject of this story's perspective is.
And I think that that is dishonest.
It's disingenuous.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It's exploiting people's discomfort with death.
It's using that same emotional trigger like they do with LGBTQ or any number of those things that allows you to override...
Your even ability to think empathically.
dan friesen
And really, when you break this down, this Amir Farsud's story is about somebody who is facing the prospect of living on the street with a chronic condition that causes severe pain and all this.
And because of that, he's considering end-of-life medical-assisted death.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That is the story.
It's about the poverty driving this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
With the underlying medical condition, of course, it's not just his poverty.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But it's being reported on Infowars as an instance of the government wanting to kill you.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's not correct.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
That is exploiting this person's pain because, quite frankly, if presented accurately...
The audience would come to the conclusion too easily that the answer is the opposite of Alex's politics.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, well, the answer is, in a certain sense, the government is killing him slowly, and that's why he's considering this.
That's the point, is that if you're saying that the government is doing their job well right now, that is going to lead to this man's death.
You have sentenced him to death, and you've sentenced him to pain as he waits for it.
dan friesen
So there's more to this report of Greg's analysis.
I already did the Reese's Pieces joke.
unidentified
Yeah.
john bound
According to the Canadian government, they are getting several requests for suicide from children who they refer to as mature minors.
And they are seeking to amend the laws so that these children can be euthanized without their parents' consent.
There are posts on social media that suggest this might be true, which shouldn't surprise anyone.
dan friesen
It should really concern any of Reese's viewers that he seems to be citing the Canadian government, but also saying that posts on social media seem to indicate that this is true.
Like, that's not good.
And it should tell you that Greg did zero research on this subject past looking at some social media posts.
jordan holmes
He saw some posts on social media!
dan friesen
And maybe one of them mentioned the government.
jordan holmes
Ooh!
dan friesen
So here are some things that you need to keep in mind.
Assisted dying for children has been legal in the Netherlands since 2002, and in the intervening 13 years, seven children apprised themselves of that care.
Belgium made this kind of medical care legal in 2014, and three children sought that care between 2016 and 2017.
It's something that has a precedent, and other countries' experience tells us that it's something that's used by people, including children, who have severe medical conditions that are not treatable and cause a great deal of suffering.
Mature minor is a term that exists in Canadian and American law already.
It's not something that's being used specifically in this case, which is how Greg is definitely Yeah.
Their conclusion was that the law already exists, that mature minors can make medical decisions for themselves that involve informed consent, and that there isn't really a compelling reason that this should be any different when it comes to medically assisted death.
Something that makes this a different case from other informed consent requirements surrounding mature minors.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
The only thing that makes it different is your discomfort with death.
You know, scientifically or medically or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, of course.
But that's what I'm saying.
dan friesen
The possibility in your mind that maybe we will find a cure or something.
You know, sure.
jordan holmes
It's just the cold, hard logic doesn't give you an excuse to be like, ah, but this is different just because I feel a way.
dan friesen
So the organization Dying with Dignity has suggested some safeguard where informed consent from a parent or guardian would be required for patients aged 12 to 15, and consultation with a parent or guardian would be required for people aged 16 and 17. Yeah.
Which seems like, I mean, it's not going without the parent's consent, even for these mature minors, people who have the ability to recognize consent in terms of their medical decisions.
You know, even if you're 16 or 17, it would still require consultation with a parent or guardian.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, I mean, the numbers themselves have already made something really clear, which is like...
If it's been available since 2002 or 2004 or whatever, and in the intervening time, a total of seven people from the Netherlands.
dan friesen
There's not many people there.
The population's like 30. So they've lost 40% of their population.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
In the entire next generation.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
They've got to start all over.
dan friesen
No, yeah, it is a very small number of people.
jordan holmes
And I think it is something that...
We can trust people.
As somebody who's struggled with suicidal ideation and, of course, the attempts they're in, it is like you can trust people to want to live.
There are times when you don't, but at the end of the day, if you have to wait a month, you're going to find a reason to live.
You want to live.
You just want to.
dan friesen
And honestly, The circumstances that these children and their parents are in are so difficult to imagine.
I don't know...
I don't think that the government certainly should ever be like, hey, you should kill your kid.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
And I don't think that is happening.
jordan holmes
I don't think they've ever done that ever one time.
dan friesen
No.
And I also don't think that if a parent and a doctor and the child are all kind of of the mind of, like, this suffering is never going to end.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's so hard for, like, the child doesn't want to continue suffering.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I don't...
I feel like the government really, it seems very cruel to not allow all options.
jordan holmes
No, there should be a, I mean, I absolutely support a fuck this law, you know?
dan friesen
It's a hard, complicated, and emotionally heavy subject, and I get why people have strong emotional reactions around these kinds of issues, but from the bottom of my heart, I have to say and continue to stress that Alex and InfoWars' contribution to this conversation is worthless and counterproductive.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
They aren't even living in reality.
And I don't...
I just think they should shut the fuck up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
dan friesen
It's not helping.
jordan holmes
There's so many things where it is, like, of all...
Just stay out of this.
You know, like, I'm mad at them for all of...
dan friesen
I mean, just about everything.
jordan holmes
Well, right, right, right.
But I'm mad at them for all of their bullshit.
But then sometimes they just go places where it's like, just fucking stay away from this.
Just get away.
dan friesen
I think it's different for you and me, probably, the things that they have that reaction to.
But I think that I find it more offensive when there is a point against the maybe everybody should have free access to end of medically assisted death.
That is somewhere where there is conversation that is relevant.
And they're screwing that up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
They're making that conversation much more difficult to have in a sane and rational world.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And I think that hurts the people who are most hurt already.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you should be.
I mean, a reasonable conversation includes empathy for the people that this is happening to, themselves dealing with all of this stuff, and instead it's people arguing about the government trying to kill you.
dan friesen
Yep.
So here's the last clip from Greg's report.
This is fucking stupid.
john bound
And the motive for helping Canadians kill themselves is allegedly to save the government money.
harrison smith
They have saved 90 million dollars.
So, I mean, that's like four missiles flying to Ukraine.
The government has infinite money for refugees and for, you know, foreign aid and for, you know, Democrat campaigns and for waging war in Ukraine.
But no money to keep people alive.
That's too expensive.
This is the plan how they're going to save money.
Sure, they're going to welcome in a couple million foreigners every year, put them on the free healthcare ticket.
What?
Average Canadians, sorry.
Sorry, it's time to suicide.
It's time for death.
john bound
After 6,465 individuals committed suicide with the help of MAID, medical assistance in dying, the Canadian government saved $86.9 million.
dollars about thirteen thousand dollars per person that's what an individual's life is worth today in canada what economists What?
jordan holmes
That's what you got?
john bound
...
unidentified
concluded that the savings from MAID are so far negligible, but the suicide program should continue.
harrison smith
What?
Don't cost that much.
I mean, we could really be ramping this up.
Maybe you could have people pay tickets.
Like, maybe this is a solution.
Maybe in Canada, you pay like 10,000 bucks and you get to kill somebody.
john bound
This is the predictable outcome of big government.
jordan holmes
This is the predictable?
dan friesen
Unbelievable.
unidentified
Totally.
jordan holmes
Totally predictable.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
dan friesen
Also, Harrison's little joke there at the end is just basically an old Chris Rock bit.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like the stabbing chair.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Wasn't that Chris Rock?
I think it was.
Anyway, the only evidence that's being provided here that the government of Canada is motivated by saving money is Harrison Smith, another Infowars employee, saying so.
This is not good reporting.
In reality, the number that Harrison is citing comes from an October 2020 report titled, quote, Cost Estimate for Bill C-7, Medical Assistance and Dying.
It was conducted by the Parliamentary Budget Officer, and it was prompted by the request of an unnamed senator.
They looked at numbers from the Netherlands and Belgium as guides and found that it would be about $90 million in medical expenses would be saved by this bill.
Well, basically what they're both citing, Greg and Harrison.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
However, it's very clear, this report, when it says, quote, many studies have shown that healthcare costs in the last year of life are disproportionately high, representing between 10 and 20% of total healthcare costs, despite these patients representing about 1% of the population.
Nevertheless, this report should in no way be interpreted as suggesting that MAID can be used to reduce healthcare costs.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
This is how Harrison is interpreting the report.
And then Greg is using Harrison's fraudulent interpretation to suggest that the Canadian government is motivated by financial considerations to offer assisted dying care.
This is bullshit.
The actual report that Harrison is citing includes this part that he conveniently ignored.
Quote, to conclude, expanding access to MAID will result in a net reduction in health care costs for the provincial governments.
However, this reduction represents a negligible portion of the health care budgets of the provinces.
Dr. Tanu Seputro wrote in 2017, we should strive to save on suffering and invest more in its reduction, which may in turn reduce requests for medical aid and dying.
Infowars and everyone who work there are a raft of liars.
Their arguments suck.
They just make most of what And the solution to the problem they're pretending to be so upset about is the thing that they entirely don't support, which is more government spending on social welfare programs.
This is just a dead end of them complaining about something they don't care about to begin with.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, he even says, the government says it's negligible.
It's almost like in the report, the guys are like, why are you making me do this?
I don't want to do the cost-budget analysis for assisted suicide.
dan friesen
And Harrison's, like, his whole thing is like, oh, they have all this money to send things to Ukraine, but not to keep people alive.
Oh, so you want the government to spend all that?
Is that within your...
Set of priorities.
The federal government.
jordan holmes
You're just a bunch of fucking children.
Stop it.
Stop it.
Just tell me.
If what you want is what you want, then say it and back it up.
And then whenever you find out you're a fucking idiot, say, I'm sorry for being an idiot.
dan friesen
Oh, they have plenty of money for this thing I don't want when they don't do this thing I don't want.
All right.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Good argument.
So Alex finally gets to calls.
He said at the beginning of this episode, I'm going to take all these calls about Trump.
Because we've got to find out what the temperature...
jordan holmes
We've got to do polling.
Yeah, informal, anecdotal.
dan friesen
Yeah, so here's the first caller.
unidentified
I've got to say, my heart is troubled right now with this whole Trump thing, Alex.
We need to have...
I'd like to have a real debate on Donald Trump, because this subject in particular is really, really bothering me.
alex jones
I'll tell you what, you got it, you got it.
And John, don't forget.
John, don't forget.
Put him on hold, get his name and number.
We will do...
How many guests do I have tomorrow?
Let me check this, make sure I'm not going to say this wrong.
Got a bunch of guests, I'm not sure, but we'll do...
In fact, I already meant to do this.
We'll do at least two hours of calls on is Trump good or do people support Trump and should we support Trump?
Because I have mixed feelings as well, okay?
And I appreciate you.
Get Charles back on tomorrow.
dan friesen
That's what you're supposed to be doing today.
That's what you said you were going to do today.
Why are you doing it tomorrow?
jordan holmes
I mean, unreal.
dan friesen
Look, this guy wants to have a debate.
I think I'm going to punt.
jordan holmes
Punt.
Pass.
dan friesen
But the whole thing is supposed to be taking calls, what you think about Trump and his announcement that he's going to run.
jordan holmes
Well, he doesn't want to hear it.
dan friesen
So ridiculous.
So anyway, he gets another call.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Trent in Las Vegas, Nevada.
Go ahead, Trent.
Thanks for calling.
unidentified
What's going on, man?
A big time supporter.
I just want to know how in the world are you even considering throwing your weight behind Trump when there's how many children are being stacked up in bodies, old people stacked up, more and more maimed every day from these shots.
And you say that he's backing off from these shots.
When I watched that Full Sin interview or podcast, he said that was his greatest achievement Ooh!
alex jones
Well, that was like six months ago.
But listen, I don't think Trump's perfect.
DeSantis was for the shots at first, too.
I'm just glad he's backing off of them.
So do you think DeSantis is better being backed by the whole deep state?
unidentified
I think we need to get a whole brand new face up in there.
I think all of them need to be charged with the RICO Act, treason, and hung on live television.
jordan holmes
Bold!
alex jones
Who do you think is a good Republican or populist person to vote for?
unidentified
Maybe Rand Paul, but still, he's been in there for how long?
He's still part of the problem.
We've gotten here by...
alex jones
No, no, I agree with you.
I agree with you.
We should draft Rand Paul.
jordan holmes
Hey, everybody?
dan friesen
We should get Rand Paul.
I'm having flashbacks.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
This is so annoying.
jordan holmes
We're just never going to change.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, maybe Rand Paul would be a great choice.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Let's do that again.
Let's run it again, everybody, from the top.
dan friesen
Yep.
So this caller actually has a good point in terms of remembering Alex's rhetoric.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's weird whenever you remember what Alex has said and then speak it back to him.
He goes, oh, that makes me feel uncomfortable.
dan friesen
Hey, buddy, how can you possibly be in favor of this person who has murdered a million children or whatever?
Stacking up millions of bodies with the poisonous shot that he...
jordan holmes
He's not...
Listen.
I have some problems with him.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
He stacks up a lot of it.
Listen, he stacks up a lot of bodies.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Sure.
But who is going to trigger the lips?
dan friesen
It's true.
DeSantis has no charisma.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
So Alex remembers that he made an ultimatum to Trump about the vaccines.
jordan holmes
He did do that.
unidentified
I mean, we still can't vote for a guy that's not being open about these children being maimed from these shots.
alex jones
Hey, I put the ultimatum out to Trump.
I put the ultimatum out.
You're absolutely right.
jordan holmes
How'd that go?
alex jones
That's why I'm very, very torn about this situation.
dan friesen
You shouldn't be.
jordan holmes
How can you not?
dan friesen
This is an argument for you being less torn about it, because if you put the ultimatum out and Trump didn't care, that should tell you that you have no purchase here.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He doesn't give a shit.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Look, I made the ultimatum.
He didn't listen.
And so I am not going to stick to my end of the ultimatum at all.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
Why would I do that?
jordan holmes
Listen, if there's one ultimatum that I think of when I think of my ultimatums, I think of that time Obama gave that ultimatum.
And you know how that worked.
dan friesen
So he has another caller.
And, God, this is just annoying.
unidentified
You crunch the numbers.
Trump has so many hardcore supporters.
He's the way to go.
I'm hoping he comes around with the vaccine.
I'm hoping he surrounds himself with Roger Stone, Steve Bannon, and MGT, and the rest of them.
Hopefully, he'll come around.
But in the meantime, we have to get behind Trump.
No one else is running.
He didn't say he was running.
So who else are we going to vote for for those people to have a problem with Trump?
They're going to have to feed that.
Trump will come around.
We got the numbers.
We got to win this.
alex jones
Well, AJ, I'll promise you this, and the earlier caller that raised all this, we're not going to screen your calls, and you're going to have a place to voice your opinion to millions of people about what you think.
And tomorrow, I'm going to open the phones up for multiple hours on this one topic.
dan friesen
All right, so we're going to do it tomorrow.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
The first caller didn't raise this issue.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
Alex did.
He wanted to take calls on this subject.
jordan holmes
You know.
dan friesen
That was in the past.
We'll talk about it tomorrow.
jordan holmes
You know, when you live in the moment, a lot of people don't really recognize what it means to live in the moment, which is to forget everything that you said earlier.
dan friesen
And put it off till tomorrow.
jordan holmes
And blame it on other people.
dan friesen
If you live in the moment, tomorrow does not exist.
So Alex has a guest on.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Instead of dealing with his...
Callers' feelings about Trump.
Yeah.
So, this guy.
Whoa, Nellie.
alex jones
There's only a few people out there that exposed the New World Order at a greater level than I did before I did.
It's not about the credit, but it's about understanding who was awake first so we can understand who has the discernment.
And it was Steve Quayle and David Icke.
Both great minds.
jordan holmes
Turds.
Punchbowls.
alex jones
And both living legends.
dan friesen
Yeah, so we got Steve Quayle on.
jordan holmes
We got legendary turds now.
dan friesen
He has risen to the top of the pile of InfoWars Steves.
jordan holmes
Man.
dan friesen
Steve Kirsch has seemed to fade into his sub-stack background.
Steve Janik is still...
I gotta be honest.
I need proof of life on Steve.
I went and I tried to find some YouTube videos.
His channel seems dormant.
I don't know.
Steve's on the wind.
jordan holmes
Maybe he's got some health issues.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Maybe he's happy to not be involved in this bullshit.
jordan holmes
Man, you know what?
dan friesen
Or maybe he's just thankful that he didn't get subpoenaed in the Infowars trial because he has so much to do with the Sandy Hook shit.
jordan holmes
He really does have a lot to do with it.
His getting away scot-free on this is pretty insane.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, I think the statute of limitations might have helped him a bit.
jordan holmes
Man, you know, it is interesting to think, now that I've...
If Steve does have health problems...
He, I think much like our boy, is just going to, we're going to be the only people who recognize his passing.
Oh, you mean like Larry Nichols?
Yeah, with Nichols, it's going to be, we're the same two people.
We're going to be like, poor Steven, Alex is going to forget he was alive.
dan friesen
I think Alex brought up that Larry Nichols died like a couple weeks after in passing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
We're the only people who are going to throw out an RIP.
Why are you hanging out with people like that?
We all know it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, Steve Quayle has some interesting thoughts.
And by interesting, I mean incredibly boring and unhinged.
steve quayle
People are looking for a political solution to a spiritual problem.
It's my contention that obviously the United States has declared, the Democrats specifically, and the Republican whores have declared war on God.
They've declared war on everything that made our country great.
The destruction of the family, the destruction of a grateful nation versus the one that's basically, we're in a rape, pillage, and plunder the United States has been taken under.
dan friesen
Hey, look at that rhyme.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Wow.
Weird to think of the United States.
The United States, Dan.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Raping and pillaging and plundering.
dan friesen
Unthinkable.
jordan holmes
Who would have imagined?
dan friesen
Now, I gotta say, it's fun.
To say that everybody who you don't like has declared war on God.
jordan holmes
That is fun.
That is just a great thing to do.
dan friesen
Doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room in terms of negotiation or reconciliation or compromise.
All that stuff seems to be kind of...
jordan holmes
Difficult.
dan friesen
Impossible.
jordan holmes
Well, if you declare war on God, God himself is usually pretty stringent about that.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
He doesn't like war.
dan friesen
I think this is dumb, but I do appreciate the rhyming.
And I think that Steve Quayle, low-key, is a little bit of a fanciful gentleman who likes wordplay.
jordan holmes
Okay.
steve quayle
I'm being told, and this is exclusive to your podcast today, broadcast today, is the fact that they're already setting up another vehicle, another crypto, and I call them kleptocurrency.
Somebody make that name up.
But Alex, we're watching the cryptocurrencies turn into kryptonite for the financial system.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think he's having fun.
jordan holmes
That is the woke insurance of crypto jokes right there.
dan friesen
I think he likes wordplay and I appreciate it.
He could write a children's book if he wasn't nuts.
jordan holmes
I call it klepto.
Not Las Vegas.
I call it lost wages, Dan.
Come on now.
Because you take your paycheck.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So Steve rambles.
jordan holmes
Taxachusetts, Dan, you get it?
Because they're higher taxes.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's good stuff.
jordan holmes
It's good stuff.
dan friesen
So Steve rambles a bit.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
He has a penchant for that.
jordan holmes
Sure.
steve quayle
Ladies and gentlemen, the great reset, just get rid of that Bravo Sierra.
It's the great destruction.
It's the total destruction.
jordan holmes
Well, like the great sunset.
steve quayle
Because, again, I want to say this, Alex.
Cop 27 in Egypt.
People don't understand this, but they rewrote the Ten Commandments.
They thought they could do a better job than God, making literally the creation their God, worshipping the creation.
But in the meantime, they're doing stuff behind the site of the common man.
By the way, 400 private jets.
You know, 400 private jets going to Mount Sinai.
By the way, the one they went to wasn't the real one.
The real Mount Sinai is in...
I bet it's the Antichrist.
that Prince Charles now King Charles referred to at that global summit so ladies and gentlemen all All of this politicus distracticus.
unidentified
Boo!
steve quayle
Isn't that the definition of insanity?
unidentified
Boo!
dan friesen
Okay, so we have the COP, they rewrote, at the Climate Conference, by the way.
jordan holmes
Yes, the Climate Conference rewrote the Ten Commandments.
dan friesen
Rewrote the Ten Commandments.
400 private jets flew to Mount Sinai, but it's a fake Mount Sinai.
jordan holmes
I feel like that was tangential at best.
There's a lot of tangents.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, if you bring up the point that there are 400 private jets there, fuck yeah, man, of course.
It's a very stupid thing to do if you're doing a climate conference.
Looks real dumb.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
No, I don't disagree.
But...
That's not what we're talking about.
We're talking about the spiritual dimension of Mount Sinai and the war on God and the new Ten Commandments.
I thought that the new Ten Commandments was the Georgia Guidestones, but then I guess someone blew them up.
jordan holmes
Blew them up, yeah.
dan friesen
And now we just gotta...
jordan holmes
Those are the old Ten Commandments now.
So the old new Ten Commandments.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Now there's the new new.
jordan holmes
The new new.
Yes.
unidentified
Correct.
dan friesen
So anyway, Steve.
jordan holmes
Taxachusetts, Dan.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
You should write a children's book.
steve quayle
This is the question I get asked more than any other one.
How is it that the whole world goes into lockdown at the same point?
How is it that the economy shut down at the same point?
And the answer to that is simple.
Lucifer.
alex jones
This is a world government test of power.
So it's not just info wars.
It's not just money wars.
The key is spirit wars.
steve quayle
It is spirit wars.
And again, you know, people are having all types of...
Interactions with cryptids, strange creatures.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Tons.
steve quayle
Everything from incubus, succubus.
jordan holmes
So many succubi.
steve quayle
The veil's being rent, Alex.
dan friesen
A lot of cryptids.
jordan holmes
I call them cleptids because they steal so much, Dan.
dan friesen
Ah, boy.
This is the state of affairs that we find ourselves in.
Steve Quayle warning us about chupacabras.
jordan holmes
There's just nothing that is less...
You can say it for anything.
People come up to me and ask me all the time, how is it that gas prices all around the world can be so high at the same time?
And I say...
Lucifer.
dan friesen
Right.
I mean, it's dumb because people went...
First of all, countries didn't go into lockdown all at the same time.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course not.
dan friesen
There was some difference.
But you could say all around the same time.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And it's because there was a global pandemic.
jordan holmes
That's how pandemics work.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think that...
Is not Lucifer.
It's pretty easily explainable in terms of just sort of real world conditions.
jordan holmes
Non-Luciferian.
dan friesen
Also, though, they brought up spirit wars there.
unidentified
True.
dan friesen
And I want to just remind everyone that mind wars and spirit wars were the two catchphrase ideas from Reset Wars that Alex has just abandoned and not really expanded upon after he released the culmination of his life's work.
jordan holmes
Most important thing he's ever done.
dan friesen
Which flopped and was really just a contract thing that he did for a weirdo get-rich-quick hypnotist fella that Alex hasn't mentioned since.
jordan holmes
He did a photo shoot.
In a creek.
So I feel like he's contributed quite a bit to us.
The most important thing he's ever done.
dan friesen
Look at me in a creek.
So cryptids are out there.
jordan holmes
Cryptids are in play.
dan friesen
The Squatch.
jordan holmes
The Squatch is in play, yeah.
dan friesen
What other cryptids do you like?
I know the Mothman is probably a cryptid, right?
jordan holmes
As much as I love the Squatch, I was always the...
dan friesen
Mr. Mixoplix?
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
What's the...
Abomination, not Abomination.
What's the...
dan friesen
Abominable Snowman?
jordan holmes
Yes, yes.
The Yetis.
Yetis are my jam.
Yetis were always my jam.
dan friesen
Okay, so it's just a different environment, Squatch.
jordan holmes
It's a different Squatch, yeah.
It's a different flavor of Squatch.
It's a different...
Evolution of the Pokemon, if you will.
unidentified
Sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Sure.
All right.
jordan holmes
How about you?
dan friesen
I don't like cryptids much.
jordan holmes
You don't like cryptids?
dan friesen
No, I don't find them that interesting.
jordan holmes
Not a Loch Ness guy?
What do you...
dan friesen
I like Nessie.
jordan holmes
You like Nessie?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
But that's just because I feel like Nessie's not coming out of the water.
jordan holmes
No, there's a kinship between the two of you.
dan friesen
Well, I have a long-standing respect for things that are in the water.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
That's a different domain.
That's a different domain.
Whatever you all are doing over there, I respect you.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
It's not for me.
dan friesen
Keep it in the water.
jordan holmes
If I was meant to be there, I would already be.
dan friesen
Right, right.
Those animals that come in and out of the water?
jordan holmes
No, don't trust them.
Can't trust them.
You can't live in one place or the other.
unidentified
Pick a lane.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Well, actually, that's not true.
If they come onto land and they're cool, if they're not hurting anybody, that's fine.
jordan holmes
Toads are pretty cool.
dan friesen
Yeah, except for the ones that are poisonous.
jordan holmes
Right, but you can lick some of the other ones.
dan friesen
I'm not going to get into a bit of toads.
Toads are generally fun.
jordan holmes
Toads are a whole thing.
dan friesen
In the same way that I like to swim in the water, but I'm not going to hurt a fish.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
I'm not going to bother them.
We are just, I'm a traveler in the waters.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I don't mind if...
jordan holmes
You're a guest in Foreign Lands.
dan friesen
Yes.
I don't mind if a frog hops around.
That's fine.
jordan holmes
That's what it is.
dan friesen
Yeah, but...
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
You get like an alligator or something like that?
jordan holmes
Uh-uh.
That's a dinosaur.
dan friesen
Keep it in the water.
jordan holmes
That's a dinosaur.
unidentified
Keep it in the water.
jordan holmes
Anything more than a million years old, get the fuck out of here.
I'm done.
dan friesen
So anyway, Nessie, I'm fine with.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I think we'd get along.
So we have one last clip here.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
alex jones
We're going to come back and talk about some key ways to protect ourselves and get into what's coming next and the Russia situation and then blaming the missile attack on Russia even though they admit Russia didn't do it.
But Steve, at the end of the day, lead us in a minute of prayer before we go to break.
Because you don't do this a lot, but lead us in a minute of prayer because God's the answer.
dan friesen
So Steve has a little prayer.
jordan holmes
You know, honestly, if God's the answer, then why is Steve answering all these questions with Lucifer?
dan friesen
Great question.
I don't have an answer.
jordan holmes
I'll tell you, I do.
dan friesen
Lucifer?
jordan holmes
No, it's God.
dan friesen
Okay.
So the reason that people would still be blaming Russia, even if it was a surface-to-air missile that was launched by Ukraine that went errant, is because they wouldn't have been launching that if Russia wasn't firing missiles.
jordan holmes
See, that was the thing.
dan friesen
So there is still an argument to be made that, hey, at the end of the day, Russia still bears some responsibility for the circumstances where this missile would have been launched.
But Alex doesn't care about that.
jordan holmes
We weren't out for a joyride with our missiles.
Wee!
Let's fire them willy-nilly into the sky!
No, we're being attacked by a nation that is trying to kill us with no interest in really fighting a war anymore.
dan friesen
That is the rationale there, if you're curious, Alex.
Steve is so uncompelling that these are the clips that I have of him.
The Declaring War on God cryptids are out and about.
jordan holmes
On paper, those should be good.
Everybody declaring war on God, everybody cryptids.
unidentified
And we had fun with them, but there's just nothing meaningful.
dan friesen
Except for some wordplay, which is nice.
I do appreciate that Alex has the...
Trump announces his candidacy.
He immediately starts waffling back to like, alright, I support Trump again.
There's a very clear indication of it.
He sets out to take calls about it.
Can't handle having these conversations with the callers.
Has a nonsensical interview with Steve Quayle.
And is just...
Just a gross piece of shit about medically assisted suicide.
Just what a day.
jordan holmes
If I'm Trump, if even on InfoWars my candidacy announcement goes over like a fart, it's not good.
It's not good.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
And the worst part is...
dan friesen
This guy cried about how he would die for you last time.
And now he doesn't want to talk about it.
Doesn't want to talk about it.
Would rather hang out and pray with Steve Quayle.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Here's what happened.
Trump.
Over the pandemic, everybody watched Great British Baking Show.
We prefer nice reality TV shows to shitty reality TV shows now.
It's just how it works.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, if you want to actually use the baking show, I would say that his announcement speech was a little rough and ready.
jordan holmes
I think...
unidentified
I like that slang so much.
dan friesen
I'm jealous of the British being able to use that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I just like to say rough puff pastry.
That's what I just enjoy.
Every time they say rough puff pastry, I'm like, ah, it feels good rolling off the tongue.
dan friesen
It's good stuff.
I'm waiting the finale of the season.
I don't think it's out yet.
jordan holmes
It is in Britain, but not in the United States.
unidentified
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
You would have to use some sort of VPN or torrent.
dan friesen
That would be impossible.
Yeah.
unidentified
I might have to look into that after the show.
dan friesen
But anyway, I like Sandro.
jordan holmes
Ah, he's great.
He's pretty cool.
dan friesen
Pretty cool.
jordan holmes
Love Sandro.
dan friesen
He's a big, muscly gym guy, but also he takes care of kids.
jordan holmes
Brilliant.
unidentified
He's funny.
jordan holmes
He's smart.
He's got the whole package.
unidentified
God damn it.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
We're in love with him.
Yeah.
unidentified
As a household, even my pups jump up and sing.
dan friesen
He's got too much going on for him.
unidentified
We'll finish this off air.
dan friesen
Anyway.
Jordan, we come to the end of this, and to quote myself, what a fuck.
jordan holmes
What a fuck.
dan friesen
We'll be back for another episode.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do, it's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter, it's at knowledge underscore fight.
dan friesen
Oh, hey, yeah, we'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark.
I got excited there because I realized that Steve Quayle is the person who warns us about...
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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