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#716: April 25, 2014

Today, Jordan is still on vaction, so Dan recruits the hosts of the Dollop, Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds, to fill in.  In this installment, Dan takes Dave and Gareth back to the day their first episode was released, to see what Alex was up to.

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alex jones
13:45
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dan friesen
33:11
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dave anthony
12:15
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gareth reynolds
21:53
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david knight
00:28
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andy in kansas
00:01
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dan friesen
Hey everybody, this is Dan.
Hello.
I just wanted to drop in and give a little bit of a note before this episode begins.
And the reason for that is because I kind of screwed up a little bit on the recording of this episode.
And so some of the levels are a little bit iffy.
I've been using a technology that shan't be named unless I be shading.
Some business.
But for remote recording, and it seemed like everything was totally fine as we were recording.
And our guests actually very generously offered to record on their end.
And because I had so much confidence in this tech, I thought, like, ah, there's no need to.
This has worked just fine in the past.
And unfortunately, some of the audio is a little bit over...
It's a little bit distorted, but it still sounds fine.
It's just a little bit...
It could be a little cleaner.
Anyway, this is a rambling, long-winded way for me to just give you a heads up about that and to take responsibility for the sound.
I messed up a little bit.
Anyway, we'll be back on Wednesday with a normal episode with Jordan back.
But for now, please enjoy this special app.
unidentified
Damn, and Jordan, I'm sweating.
alex jones
It's time to pray.
dave anthony
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
unidentified
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
dave anthony
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Need money.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
dave anthony
Stop it.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
dave anthony
It's time to pray.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
andy in kansas
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your world.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hello, everybody.
Welcome back to a Knowledge Fight.
We are here.
We've just had a week of a break.
And if truth be told, I was under the impression that Jordan would be getting back over the weekend.
And that we could get back to work and do our job as normal.
This is not the case.
Jordan will not be back until Tuesday.
And so in order to get an episode out, I had to dig deep and find someone capable of filling the shoes of Jordan.
And it turns out I found two people.
Very excited to welcome to the podcast hosts of The Dollop, Gareth Reynolds and Dave Anthony.
Welcome, gentlemen.
gareth reynolds
Suck it, Jordan!
dave anthony
Yeah, Jordan's out.
This is a permanent thing, I think.
dan friesen
We're going to go trios?
gareth reynolds
I like it.
There's a great...
The way that we got it set up was pretty smooth.
So I feel like we're like...
There's a synergy.
dan friesen
Yeah, definitely.
So guys, I know that over the course of the time doing your podcast, you've touched on some of the...
I don't know, maybe some things that are connected to my world.
Like the Jade Helm episode.
Jade Helm, for sure.
Cliven Bundy, perhaps.
dave anthony
Yep.
gareth reynolds
Our God.
dave anthony
Yeah, we did.
We've done two on the Bundys or three?
Two on the Bundys, right?
gareth reynolds
Two, yeah.
dan friesen
I was wondering, though, how much connection do you have to Alex Jones himself?
Zero.
gareth reynolds
Via the show, zero.
Offline, tons.
dave anthony
Yeah?
gareth reynolds
We're very close to Alex.
He's a pal.
Dave and Alex are really good friends.
A lot of people say that they get Dave and Alex confused.
dan friesen
I think that your personalities would mesh amazingly.
dave anthony
I think the two of you would just get along.
We just, I would call it vibe.
We vibe.
And we have a lot of the same sort of philosophies and just outlooks on life.
gareth reynolds
And protein powders.
dan friesen
Climate change isn't real.
That's one of his big things.
dave anthony
That's me.
Lizard people?
dan friesen
Do you guys...
gareth reynolds
No, but I don't think we've really...
We've not really gotten into Alex ever.
If anything, it would be maybe just...
Not on the show.
Yeah, maybe just minorly on the show.
Yeah, a little bit.
dave anthony
I've always avoided him completely.
The only thing I really know about him is listening to your podcast.
gareth reynolds
Yeah.
dave anthony
I'll pop in every once in a while to see what's going on with Alex Jones, but for the most part, I don't really pay attention to him.
gareth reynolds
And it seems like he's had a quiet couple weeks.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's been real tame.
He has, I think, abandoned Trump again.
So that's a good sign for the investigation and the FBI raid.
dave anthony
You know, I know someone who punched him and knocked him out.
Alex?
Charlie.
Yeah.
20 some odd years ago in Texas.
dan friesen
Is this Space Hitler?
dave anthony
No, this is a guy named Charlie.
gareth reynolds
I'm just loving the conversation we're having from the sidelines right now.
dan friesen
That might also be Space Hitler.
dave anthony
Is it Space Hitler?
No, Charlie is a guy who is associated with the festival in Austin, South by Southwest.
gareth reynolds
Oh, wow.
He punched him, huh?
dave anthony
He fucking knocked him down.
They were working at radio stations, I believe, and they got into it one night, and Charlie Deckerman, Charlie to this day, still gets free beers in Austin for having done that.
dan friesen
You get local hero status when you...
That's pretty awesome.
I guess.
I mean, look, I'm not thrilled with violence at any point, but if it's violence 20 years ago and it's funny, I guess it's cool.
dave anthony
I would like to say that I am thrilled with violence.
gareth reynolds
I'm just happy to know there's a space Hitler.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that might be the same guy.
Because there was a dude who would troll him on his public access show, and they ended up getting into a fight in a parking lot.
dave anthony
I think that Space Hitler was there, and that was the same night, and two guys hit.
I think Space Hitler was also involved.
A different guy, though.
gareth reynolds
How much that sounds like it would be something on Infowars, what just was said.
I think Space Hitler was there, but there were two guys in the parking lot that night.
Infowars.com.
dan friesen
Space Hitler was on the grassy knoll.
gareth reynolds
Space Hitler was on the grassy knoll.
He ate Kennedy's brains!
dan friesen
So you guys didn't even, like, even before, like, present days, you didn't have any kind of, like, impression of Alex Jones as a figure?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Because he was somebody who existed.
gareth reynolds
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, we've just never talked about him on the show, really.
But, yeah, obviously, I mean, it's hard to even remember when.
You first heard about him, but yeah, I mean, I've obviously been following his lunacy for, what, a better part of a decade, really.
dave anthony
Yeah, but I purposely got on my way not to watch anything.
I just don't watch anything with him, like when I see clips of him online.
But I've heard about him for a long time now, and I've definitely read a couple articles about him, and then your podcast.
I listened to both the documentary episodes, which were long but crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah, that got me subtweeted by the director.
unidentified
Oh, really?
dave anthony
It's her, right?
Yeah, yeah.
She did a terrible job.
dan friesen
She did a terrible job.
So, look, there's a lot going on with Alex in the present day.
Like you mentioned, slow week.
He's going through a lot of things.
He's having some tantrums.
But I felt like...
Getting into all that might be too much.
Might be throwing you guys into the deep end, and I didn't want to put you through that.
gareth reynolds
That's very sweet.
dan friesen
And so what I wanted to do is I wanted to do something a little bit special for you.
And, you know, a lot of times listeners will get in touch with us and ask us to do an episode about their birthday, like what happened on my birthday on Infowars.
And so what I figured I would do is I would take us back to April 25th, 2014.
The day you guys put out your first episode of The Dollop and see what Alex Jones was doing.
dave anthony
This is around, I mean, Jade Helm was starting to kick up.
dan friesen
I think that heat was a little bit more in the 15, though, right?
Wasn't it?
dave anthony
Was it?
Okay.
dan friesen
I believe so.
gareth reynolds
The Bundy, I mean, our first episode's The Bundy, so it was right in the Bundy rage.
dan friesen
Oh, Bundy's will come up.
dave anthony
Yeah, he was there.
He was into that.
dan friesen
So yeah, there's a lot of news going on at that point in 2014.
There's plenty going on.
And I think we'll be disappointed to learn about what most of this episode ends up being about.
But let us dive in here at the beginning.
This is how Alex is starting off the show.
alex jones
Ukrainian helicopter hit by a grenade taking off.
Ukraine helicopter has been crippled in a grenade attack in Kiev.
Warns Moscow is engineering a third world war.
That's one telegraph headline.
Did you hear that?
Third World War.
That is the Ukraine foreign minister that's saying that, by the way, and also their vice, El Presidente.
Ukraine foreign minister ready to fight Russia is the headline from the Associated Press.
dan friesen
So, yeah, we go back into the past and we see something pretty reminiscent of recent news.
gareth reynolds
Wow.
dan friesen
Yeah.
gareth reynolds
That's so rational.
dave anthony
So, that's one of the problems with him, is that sometimes he sounds like that, and then other times he's just screaming about shit that you're like, wait.
dan friesen
Well, here's the problem.
That's just him reading headlines.
There's no, like, interpretation.
It's pretty easy to sound fairly rational when you're just, like, cold reading, here is a thing that happened.
gareth reynolds
Yeah.
dan friesen
But then you get into the analysis of it, and it might be a little bit sillier here.
And that is him blaming, essentially, the West is what caused the 2014 outbreak of hostilities between Ukraine and Russia.
alex jones
The West went in three months ago when Ukraine voted to not join with the EU and to be sucked dry by that spider and instead tried to stay somewhat neutral.
I don't want Ukraine sucked dry by the Russian spider or the globalist spider.
But the globalist spider is about, let's not exaggerate, about ten times bigger, fatter, older, more evil, and more anti-human.
I mean, the Russian spider is just happy to be in power and control of its own population.
It's trying to breed a larger Ruski population because it realizes that its own system is collapsing.
The globalist spider is a transhumanist power-tripping spider.
It believes it's God that is attacking anything decent.
dan friesen
I see you're trying to make sense of this, Dave.
You're tracking the thought.
dave anthony
I'm trying to track the thought, and it's very hard to track, but I will say I do like the idea of calling the EU a spider.
dan friesen
It's got a web!
It's gonna suck you dry!
gareth reynolds
I like the sucking dry spider.
It's almost like...
I mean, you know how it is when you do a podcast.
You'll say some stuff and you'll be like, that didn't make sense.
And you kind of let it die.
He's quadrupling down on the spider talk.
To the point where, because he's so insane, towards the end, you're like, I think he might actually think there's the spiders that are doing this.
dan friesen
Yeah, he just watched Wild Wild West the night before.
He was on some cough syrup.
unidentified
Kevin Kline is behind the spiders.
dan friesen
Kevin Kline was just elected to the UN Council.
So yeah, you have this worldview and this presentation that is fairly consistent throughout time.
That is, you know, anything that involves Russia ends up being everybody else's fault.
And that's not to say that he is like, you know, obviously is not on the Russian payroll or anything like that.
But he is deeply into making excuses for everything that involves Russia.
dave anthony
He's also saying Russia is collapsing at the same time.
dan friesen
True, but it's in a sympathetic way, I think.
dave anthony
Okay, so they're the big victim, sort of?
gareth reynolds
They're the victim spider.
dan friesen
Yeah, they're the victim spider.
Come on, it's a classic victim spider situation.
gareth reynolds
Come on, you know what I mean?
unidentified
You gotta help the victim spider.
dan friesen
Yeah, so with the taking of Crimea and that kind of actions that were happening, their collapsing is kind of an excuse for why they would take these oil-rich areas and these resources.
It's like, ah, they're collapsing.
They need to do this.
They need to breed more Russians.
gareth reynolds
Yeah, Russian spiders.
dave anthony
Breed more Russians.
Literally, no one's ever said that.
They need to breed more Russians.
gareth reynolds
They're doing that at my Humane Society.
dan friesen
So, you guys may not be the best prognosticators on this front, but do you think that Alex thinks the outbreak between Ukraine and Russia is real?
gareth reynolds
Oh, man.
dave anthony
Oh, this 2014 fight or the one today?
dan friesen
2014.
dave anthony
2014.
No.
Oh, God, no.
He said it involved something being shot down, right?
Then there's no way it's real.
gareth reynolds
Yeah, it's false.
dave anthony
If anything's shot down out of the sky, then, Alex, it's not real.
It can't be real.
gareth reynolds
False flag spider.
dan friesen
It's too similar to Black Hawk Down.
It's all fake.
dave anthony
That's right.
dan friesen
Well, here we go.
Let's see.
alex jones
But we've always known that a large global war is what's supposed to bring in the final world government.
That's what the globalists have said themselves.
And now it looks like they're trying to do it.
They may have some backroom deal with Putin, and this may be staged.
My gut tells me it's not.
dan friesen
Well, there we are.
dave anthony
The backroom deal being between Ukraine and Russia, or between the EU?
Which spiders, though?
There's three spiders involved.
dan friesen
I don't think Ukraine's a spider.
dave anthony
Ukraine's not a spider.
Ukraine's a fly.
dan friesen
Yeah, Ukraine's a fly.
dave anthony
So is he saying Russia and the EU are working together?
dan friesen
Yeah, he's saying the possibilities are that it's a real violent outbreak, or there's a backroom deal between the EU and Putin to split Ukraine in half.
gareth reynolds
It's just great because the way that he's able to bring that up and be like, I mean, my gut is that's not what's going on.
It's like, dude, you're not rational.
Look, that might be what's going on.
I'm open to that possibility, obviously.
dan friesen
Yeah, it would be like someone being like, yeah, you know, there's a lot of signs that alien invasion is right around the corner.
My gut says it's not.
gareth reynolds
My gut says it's not, but obviously it's very possible.
It's highly possible.
dan friesen
It seems like you only are talking about that distinct possibility that you don't think is correct.
gareth reynolds
You know what's going to be great?
What's going to be great one day is when he's just doing his show and he's going to collapse on the Infowars desk and his belly's just going to open up and you're going to find out that he was just a master egg for spiders and they're all going to crawl out of him.
dave anthony
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
It was never a metaphor.
gareth reynolds
Yeah, yeah.
It was just the whole time.
He was living like Vincent D 'Onofrio in Men in Black his whole life.
dan friesen
So you might think, based on what we've heard so far, that this was going to be an episode that was largely about Russia and Ukraine.
And you can be forgiven for thinking that.
dave anthony
Thank you.
dan friesen
It is not.
Things take a turn.
Alex is discussing how one of his reporters, David Knight, he has been taking some time off.
And because of that, he's ended up listening to some talk radio.
And this is some real chaos.
alex jones
But he's been off the last few days moving.
And I guess out of one apartment into a house while they still try to buy a house.
And so he's been listening to talk radio.
He was listening to our local affiliate, 590 AM last night, because his brother-in-law out of North Carolina called him and said, you better go listen to Glenn Beck.
Well, it re-airs here locally.
And so he tuned in last night while packing the U-Haul.
And he said, you know, we've got to go into Glenn Beck's archive and find it.
But he said, this is really bad.
We have to do something about this.
And I said, what did he say?
He said, well, I'll just come in and tell you.
But he told me over the phone right before broadcast.
He's driving up here right now to be on the next segment or at the bottom of the hour.
dan friesen
This is an emergency.
Glenn Beck is talking some shit.
So here we go.
dave anthony
So he's calling in the guy who's taking time off to move.
Into a house because he's buying a different house.
He's having that guy come to the studio all his days off because Glenn Beck said some shit.
dan friesen
Yep.
unidentified
You nailed it.
gareth reynolds
A lot of people are thinking there's not even a second house.
A lot of people are thinking that the second house is just kind of a false house.
dan friesen
It's actually a spider's nest.
gareth reynolds
It's a spider's nest, exactly.
I mean, the amount of detail, like, you could just be like, coming up next, we're going to talk about Glenn Beck.
But instead he's like, so he's moving from one house, he's listening to 590, but he's also leaving his apartment.
He's loading up the U-Haul.
dan friesen
He's on the way.
dave anthony
That's part of his magic, is that he throws in details about stuff that doesn't need details, and it makes him sound like he knows more than he really does.
dan friesen
But in this case, it actually convinces me a little bit that he's telling the truth about this guy moving and being inconvenienced.
dave anthony
Yeah, for sure.
dan friesen
It seems real.
unidentified
Yeah, that's like the accidental truth.
gareth reynolds
You're like, I'm starting to think this guy might be moving.
That's all I'm buying.
dan friesen
And it sounds like Alex is a shitty boss.
gareth reynolds
Yeah, totally.
Yeah, to be like, I mean, I'm not sure what's going on.
He's taking three days to move.
It's just kind of fucking ridiculous.
dave anthony
And also, the guy apparently doesn't listen.
The only excuse he has to listen to radio is that he's moving.
Other than that, he's not supposed to listen to radio.
gareth reynolds
You want to motivate yourself when you're moving, so you throw on a little AM talk radio to just kind of get the gears in motion.
dan friesen
This story actually shifts a little bit as the episode goes on.
Later, we find out that David Knight's brother lives in another city, and he saw Glenn Beck and told David Knight to listen to it.
But there are some wrinkles here.
We're not entirely sure what's true.
But yeah, I think one thing that sucks is that he's coming in because of Glenn Beck talking shit, not because Russia and Ukraine are ramping up hostilities.
This is the kind of news organization that's like, Glenn Beck, you've got to come in.
gareth reynolds
World War III might be happening, but Glenn Beck has a 590 AM show.
We've got to get into this.
dan friesen
But see, the problem is, basically, that Glenn Beck is just jealous of Alex, which I think we all could see coming.
dave anthony
Yeah, I mean, he went offline.
I mean, he went off-air and went online and moved his whole operation there, and he's never going to be as successful as Alex had.
dan friesen
Well, that's true.
But the Blaze has so many cool people working there.
So many greats, like...
I guess Steven Crowder is there, right?
dave anthony
Is that where Crowder is?
dan friesen
I think he might be...
dave anthony
Oh my god, so it's fucking two failed comedians?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, that's most of the right wing, right?
gareth reynolds
But let's be honest, Crowder is pretty funny.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex believes that Glenn Beck is jealous of him.
alex jones
I know what this is.
He knows we're getting on affiliates all over the country.
The show's exploding right now.
Most of the stations we're on carry Glenn Beck.
And he knows, because I've talked to some program directors, that there's little comments and things going on from the people in his office, not even his syndicator.
Premier.
About me and how I'm a bad show to have.
And this has been going on behind the scenes.
And then a lot of times I'm on live and Glenn Beck's on at night.
He doesn't like that.
He's an egomaniac.
gareth reynolds
Yeah.
alex jones
My show ends up getting picked up on Sunday live.
While we do that show, people get a taste of it.
Then they put us on at night, and then invariably we end up going on live.
And, I mean, they literally replace Rush Limbaugh with us in areas of the country and get better ratings.
And I'm not...
I never had this slot to go up against Rush Limbaugh.
I didn't want this slot.
dan friesen
Wow.
He's beating Rush Limbaugh.
gareth reynolds
Wow, yeah.
alex jones
Rush taking a little shrapnel.
dan friesen
Maybe mildly delusional.
But they're cool.
gareth reynolds
I mean, as someone's handing him notes, letting him know Putin is thinking of dropping a nuke.
Hold on a second.
So Rush is actually also intimidated by us over here at InfoWars.
dan friesen
And we have a strategy where, like a drug dealer, and I put my show on your Sunday night so you get a taste.
gareth reynolds
For people who are moving, if you want to move and listen to a show, put us on.
dan friesen
We are the info dealers.
unidentified
Yeah.
dave anthony
I love that he's bragging about a Sunday night slot.
It's like the worst slot.
It's so inside baseball.
unidentified
It really is.
Like, if you're watching, you're just like, alright, I'm sorry, are we fighting InfoWars, or is this like a cult?
gareth reynolds
When do we go back to fighting InfoWars?
dan friesen
I think that this is something that's kind of maybe under-known publicly, is how much of his show ends up being kind of like this.
dave anthony
I had no idea.
dan friesen
Why does anyone list?
Who cares?
gareth reynolds
Well, that was one of the things about the trial that was so exceptional was to actually have someone there be like, what are you talking about?
Like, so often to be able to do that, like, to pull that move because it's like, we just need yes or no.
dan friesen
Yeah.
In his depositions, the best moments are the, like, Mr. Jones, do you know what question you're answering?
Almost invariably the answer is no.
He has no idea where the sentence started.
dave anthony
So this goes back to when Space Nazi and Charlie had Adam that night.
They were in a radio show and he was a failed radio guy.
The radio guy still gnaws at him.
It's still...
A deep-seated thing.
He wants to be king of fucking radio.
That's what he's talking about.
He's bragging, saying he's better than these people.
gareth reynolds
Radio spider.
dave anthony
It just doesn't fucking matter.
It just doesn't matter anymore.
dan friesen
There's a bit of projection, possibly.
gareth reynolds
I'm picking up on some of that, too.
dan friesen
He has a chip on his shoulder that's something that is also sort of ubiquitous throughout his career.
I'm the best, but also everyone is jealous of me, and that's why I'm...
Look, they're trying to kick me off these stations because Glenn Beck is jealous of me and he's talking shit.
That kind of vibe.
It's huge news.
dave anthony
It's so funny.
Radio guys have always talked shit about each other.
They can't not do it.
gareth reynolds
No, that is very true.
dan friesen
It's such a community.
It's such a forgotten community.
They were the rock stars in the 50s.
gareth reynolds
Oh yeah, Wolfman.
Spinning the records.
unidentified
And now Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Brought low.
So Alex is going to bring up some of the accusations.
That Glenn Beck has made about him here on this next clip.
gareth reynolds
It's important to double down on the important news of the day.
dan friesen
I mean, this is definitely the top story.
gareth reynolds
Obviously.
alex jones
I'm going to talk with Knight briefly about what he heard Beck say last night.
And I guess we're going to dig through the video and audio files of it yesterday and post it just to document what we're saying.
But it doesn't matter.
A lot of you probably heard it.
Saying that we want violence and that we're basically covering up the racism of Bundy and that we were out there at the ranch two weeks ago when he said all this, when we all now know this was taped Saturday and not by our reporters.
And, of course, we reported on it.
I mean, it's one thing to say Bundy could be a hillbilly or maybe racist.
I don't think that's the case.
He's certainly a fossil, though.
And I think some of the stuff he said could be taken as offensive.
I mean, like, there's black people out here.
I'll bring one in the house and got them around here.
I mean, it's just literally out in the middle of nowhere.
It'd be like, I brought a Yankee in here.
I saw one of them.
City Slicker.
I mean, these are folks in the desert seven generations.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he might just be a fossil, but he's not racist.
gareth reynolds
He's a fossil, but he's not wrong.
It's really odd to listen to Alex Jones, Alex Jones.
Like, for him to be talking about himself and his little orbit in the way that he does about everything else.
dan friesen
Well, he's nothing if not, like, self-obsessed.
And so that does happen a lot.
gareth reynolds
But the way that you're, like, talking about posting audio files, it's like, well, yeah, honestly, nobody cares.
What are you...
What's actually important?
dan friesen
Well, what's actually important is that Glenn Beck has said that Alex wants to overthrow the government, which he kind of does.
I mean, he pretty clearly has been super against the federal government for 20 years.
And then he's covering up racism by not calling what Cliven Bundy said racist.
Which, I don't know if you remember, but it was basically him saying that, hey, maybe black people were better off under slavery.
gareth reynolds
Yeah, and that he would have one in his house.
He's not opposed to having a black person in his house, which is, in the Bundy family, considered progressive.
dan friesen
Basically, though, everything that Glenn Beck appears to be saying about Alex seems fair, by my doubt.
gareth reynolds
He's doing that thing where you're going, God damn it, now I agree with Glenn Beck, you asshole.
dan friesen
Yeah, that is the battle sometimes.
It's like, oh no, you've made a good point about Alex Jones.
It's low bar, though.
That's pretty unimpressive.
gareth reynolds
Yes, yes.
dan friesen
So yeah, look, Clive and Bundy, that was your guys' first episode, right?
gareth reynolds
That was our first episode.
That was before Dave thought he was going to have me on the show permanently.
We were just going to his garage to talk about the Bundys.
dan friesen
It was magic in a bottle.
And the same day you put out that episode, this was happening on Alex's show, talking about Cliven Bundy and how he is.
He's just old-fashioned, man.
gareth reynolds
He's a fossil.
dan friesen
You've got to understand.
gareth reynolds
Fossils say the N-word.
alex jones
I've always run into hillbillies in the middle of nowhere that do talk like this.
And they're actually not racist.
dave anthony
No.
alex jones
They are literally out of a time machine.
unidentified
Right.
alex jones
But there's bad things if you go back at a time machine.
There's also good things.
They're saying no to the feds and no to Tiananmen Square because they're so old-fashioned.
That's the good part of their old-fashionedness is to be straight shooting and to stand up against tyranny.
But then it's like talking to somebody who got off a time machine from 150 years ago.
It sounds really weird to modern trendies and metrosexuals and everybody else.
dave anthony
The one thing I will say he's correct on is the bunnies were against Tiananmen Square.
unidentified
Yes.
gareth reynolds
It's just, like, the more that that goes on, the more it's like, Jesus Christ, what is, is he mad-libbing?
dave anthony
More or less.
dan friesen
He loses the thread quite a bit.
He seems to, like, sometimes...
dave anthony
He's like a guy who starts running downhill and he can't stop.
And he's just like, go wherever he goes!
gareth reynolds
Let's start a GoFundMe to get him running down a hill.
I would love to see that footage.
I love reality shows because you get to watch the word literally be taken out back and abused.
And his quote in there is they are literally from a time machine.
unidentified
True.
dan friesen
I think one of the problems with that entire roll downhill and the momentum of it was that there was something true to it.
They are essentially from a time machine, but they're coming from a racist time.
So you're making an excuse for this by being like, no, no, no, no, no.
Their minds are back from slavery time.
gareth reynolds
Yeah, and we're like, yeah, exactly.
That's a problem.
And he's like, yeah, well, they're time travelers.
They're from another time.
Okay, yeah, well, in our time, we're not cool with that.
dan friesen
If they are time travelers, then we need to teach them about the modern world.
unidentified
No, no, no, then the whole space-time continuum, then you're jumping in the middle of the ripple effect.
gareth reynolds
You don't understand what you're doing to the universe.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
dave anthony
You open up the world of spiders.
gareth reynolds
Yeah.
dan friesen
Time spiders.
So we have a little bit more Russia and Ukraine news that comes up.
gareth reynolds
A lot of people think Glenn Beck's behind it.
dan friesen
There are murmurs of this in the Council on Foreign Relations.
Sure.
And so we get to the possibility of nuclear war coming up, but only after an incessant amount of time talking about Glenn Beck.
alex jones
And if I was a coward, or even if I had more self-preservation instincts, I would be getting my family out of the United States right now.
And I'm not saying that that means we're going to have a nuclear war, but if there was, say, a 10% chance that there was going to be a nuclear war, would you get your family out of major target sites, like the middle of Texas?
Or if there was a 10% chance robbers were coming to kill you, would you get out of your house that night?
unidentified
I'd say there was a 10% chance, probably higher.
alex jones
That we're going to have a full-out nuclear war.
And people have heard my show for 19 years.
Some of you have been listening that long in Austin.
Been syndicated for almost 18. You know I've never talked like that.
dan friesen
He always talks like that.
It's very regular.
But he also does frequently say, you know I don't talk like this.
So if you didn't listen to a bunch of his show, you wouldn't know that.
Dave, you seem to have maybe a bone to pick with Texas.
dave anthony
It just made me laugh that he put the main targets and he threw Central Texas out there.
gareth reynolds
Central Texas.
dave anthony
I mean, alright, yeah, sure.
Yeah, the great threat of Central Texas.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
We'll hit them right where the economy's heart pulses from.
gareth reynolds
The middle of Texas.
dan friesen
We've long known that the Kremlin wants to take out Bevo.
University of Austin.
unidentified
We can eradicate Whataburger, then they will be putty in our hands.
You see, at the Red Dawn, we have to take out the football capitals first.
gareth reynolds
That's right.
unidentified
Texas A&M is where this Hydra heads from.
dan friesen
So, David Knight, the guy who was...
Yes, the guy who was moving.
He shows up, and he wants to come in and talk about how Glenn Beck has been talking this shit.
And this leads Alex to make quite a bold pronouncement about Glenn Beck.
unidentified
What he was saying was, he said, they're pushing for this.
david knight
He goes, when I heard that it was, I knew from the beginning that I didn't want to, I want to be on the other side of the story because Infowars made this an actual story.
alex jones
He goes, that should be...
dan friesen
A red flag.
unidentified
Not a false flag, ha ha ha, but a red flag.
alex jones
I'm not blaming Grudge and giving him the credit.
Grudge made it a national story.
We broke it, he made it national.
It is a big story.
unidentified
And he's saying that we're constantly pushing for revolution.
dave anthony
I think that's not true.
david knight
What happened there is exactly what Glenn Beck claims he wants to see happen.
And that is people peacefully standing up.
With loaded guns in their face like Tiananmen Square.
Now, some people, I didn't see anybody down there with a gun on them, but there were, well, actually, there was a couple of guys that were holding rifles, but nobody was pointing anything.
alex jones
But there were a few back up there.
unidentified
There was one guy on the bridge.
dave anthony
They keep showing that picture from multiple angles, okay?
alex jones
But the point is that now it's been projected onto us, and now we weren't there this weekend when he made the...
The black comments, and then you said, he said mostly we were involved in that.
unidentified
He said, these guys are embedded there, they're everywhere.
david knight
He goes, they know that he was making those comments last Saturday.
unidentified
Well, that was not even the same Saturday.
alex jones
He's not, he's totally out of the scene.
He's not wrong.
I know his insider people.
He's got at least four FBI agents with him at all times.
So-called retired.
This is FBI.
Just like Al Sharpton's FBI, I will bet my right arm, the FBI is feeding all this to Glenn Beck.
Glenn Beck is the FBI.
dave anthony
Oh, my God.
gareth reynolds
It's like beautiful.
It's like jazz nonsense.
unidentified
It's like jazz, yes.
gareth reynolds
I mean, it is.
unidentified
There's so much phenomenal stuff in there.
gareth reynolds
But it's also amazing that, okay, you have the audio of Glenn Beck saying this, but in order to preserve the illusion of news, you're bringing in the guy who just listened to the AM radio for his first-person account of listening to the AM radio station.
unidentified
What?
Yep.
dan friesen
Playing the clip wouldn't be as fun.
dave anthony
Oh, Glenn Beck is the FBI.
gareth reynolds
And then to have the balls to be like, and what should we lay underneath that?
Let's do a little Joe Cocker help from my friends.
dan friesen
Do you think that Glenn Beck is FBI?
gareth reynolds
Oh, 100%.
I mean, I did it, but then I heard this.
Yeah, the evidence is pretty strong.
dan friesen
Now, more important question.
Do you think that Alex knew he was going to make that accusation when the sentence started?
gareth reynolds
No.
Honestly, no.
You know, again, we're outsider-y, but it is.
There's just, you know, the different connection points, and as he starts to advance and run down the hill, it's sort of like, you know, remember Plinko on The Price is Right?
Where it just sort of drops and lands in a direction.
It's sort of like that.
His mind is Plinko-ing.
He's bouncing around, and then it drops in the FBI, and so Glenn Beck's the FBI.
dan friesen
Yeah, but he's going to stick with this for now.
But I should say, in the present day, Glenn Beck likes Alex, so Alex likes Glenn Beck now, in 2022.
gareth reynolds
He must have been wrong about the FBI, I think, because he still has his right arm.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, and...
One of the great things about Alex is that every episode is a bottle episode.
Nothing really...
You don't have to hold yourself to any of these predictions like nuclear war, the FBI.
It all just washes away tomorrow.
It's awesome.
gareth reynolds
It's like Groundhog Day conspiracy man.
dan friesen
No continuity.
dave anthony
I wonder how many times he's predicted something like nuclear war.
If you could go back and count, it would be incredible.
Over 20 years?
dan friesen
On our show, I would say at least 50 times I've heard it.
dave anthony
Oh, that's so good.
dan friesen
Yeah, and Chicago is often the target that he brings up.
And so I take this personally.
I'm very threatened by his false predictions.
dave anthony
Now, is David Knight still with Glenn Beck?
I know he's got his own radio show on iHeart or whatever.
dan friesen
David Knight used to work for Infowars, but he got fired maybe like a year ago.
He got into a fight with this guy named Steve Pchenik.
Steve Pchenik is this bullshit artist who had lied to Alex about stuff, and he was saying that all the ballots in the 2020 election were watermarked.
And they all were, like, tracked by blockchain.
And so Trump was going to reveal the election was stolen.
And David Knight was telling Alex not to believe this nonsense.
And David Knight got fired.
dave anthony
You never say that to never say don't believe anything to Alex Jones.
You will get fired.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He was a long-standing employee.
He had had a heart attack not too long before this.
He'd come in on his day off to talk about Glenn Beck years in the past, and no consideration given.
I've always kind of been a little bit fascinated by Infowars as a workplace, because when they're not on air, obviously something is happening.
dave anthony
Yeah, yeah.
I bet they're exactly the same.
I bet they're just sitting around the water cooler talking about the same shit they talk about on air.
I bet it's no fucking different.
dan friesen
Do you think that they actually believe the stuff around the water cooler or it's like comics pitching jokes to each other?
Like, do you think there's something here?
Glenn Beck is FBI.
Do you think there's something here?
dave anthony
Yeah, I think they believe.
I think they're the kind of guys that just endlessly talk nonsense.
It goes back to when the Bundys took over the wildlife place in Oregon.
At one point, there were eight guys sitting in a circle talking about their military histories.
And then when a documentarian investigated them, none of them had been in the military, but they were all trading war stories.
It's just like that.
I think once it got started, I think they just sit around talking, and they're all yes-ending, and they all...
They, on some level, know it's not true, but they're also so fucking deranged that they inherently believe it.
gareth reynolds
Does that make sense?
Yeah, and I think that is what makes the grifting of today more dangerous.
Because I think they...
It's like, if you put them on a lie detector, would they pass?
I don't know.
But I know if they're around each other, they're not going to admit that it is...
Bullshit.
Because, you know, that sort of grifting is not okay.
But if you believe it hard enough, then potentially it is true.
And that's really like our entire structure of government and, you know, half of the successful people who give commentary on it are just finding their footing for their own personal benefit.
And, you know, when you find an audience, of course you're going to keep believing it.
You know, air-quoting belief.
dave anthony
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the first person to, like, break kayfabe in that environment is going to get eaten by the other grift spiders.
gareth reynolds
Right.
dan friesen
And it'll only reinforce the kayfabe.
And it's like, oh, no, you were the one who wasn't real.
gareth reynolds
But you want to be there the day when Alex Jones just goes, I've been lying.
And they're all like, oh, we have two, sir.
I know.
dan friesen
That'll take some serious AA meetings, I think, before we get there.
So it turns out there's one rule at InfoWars.
There's only one rule, and you won't believe what it is.
alex jones
By the way, has there not been a directive the full year you're here to not attack Glenn Beck and not talk about him?
unidentified
That's right.
alex jones
Have there been any other directives about anything else?
dave anthony
No.
alex jones
Just tell the truth.
unidentified
It was very hard to do that.
alex jones
And don't infight, and keep the eyes on stopping the globalists.
unidentified
That's right.
dan friesen
Tell the truth, I guess, abstractly, and leave Glenn Beck alone.
unidentified
You don't want to attack our other ally that's fighting against the globalists.
Come on, man!
dave anthony
New World Order!
Think about it!
dan friesen
It's the only backup rule.
Rule one of Info Wars, don't attack Glenn Beck.
Rule number two.
Don't attack Glenn Beck.
gareth reynolds
And that's it.
dan friesen
I love the moment of, are there any other directives?
unidentified
Nope.
Yeah.
gareth reynolds
If you're him, you're probably like, well, shit, I think I'm supposed to say no, but that's a crazy answer.
unidentified
But he walks, he's goading me to say no.
No, no, that's it.
You can kick on someone's keypad, you can punch people, you don't need to wear clothes around here, you can steal.
dan friesen
Just leave Glenn Beck the fuck alone.
gareth reynolds
Do not hurt Beck.
dan friesen
So one of the things that I find the most fun in these episodes is when people bring out quotes, because they're often wrong, and sometimes it's a little silly, like this time with David Knight.
He whiffs this one a little bit.
unidentified
And as Jesse Ventura said, I don't know if it was his original expression, first they assassinate your character, then they assassinate you.
alex jones
That was Gandhi.
Okay, that's what Gandhi said, okay?
dan friesen
Easy to mix up.
unidentified
This is also the one who came up with the suplex.
dave anthony
Gandhi?
unidentified
Oh my god!
gareth reynolds
To live in an environment where that is not like that that is just a passing moment.
Mixing up Jamesy the body of Ventura and Gandhi again.
dan friesen
Fun fact, it's actually not even a Gandhi quote.
Of course it's not.
gareth reynolds
It did sound a little, like, aggressive for a Gandhi quote.
unidentified
Gandhi said, don't shoot until they see the whites of your eyes.
dave anthony
That was Gandhi.
gareth reynolds
Yeah, from my cold, dead hand, Gandhi.
dave anthony
No, that was Stone Cold Steve Austin.
You're getting him all fucked up.
unidentified
That was gold in my ear.
dan friesen
Gandhi 316 says I just whipped her ass.
unidentified
Tell me how my ass tastes.
dan friesen
They have a fraught relationship with quotes on Infowars.
We covered his documentary Endgame and I was fascinated because every quote was fake.
It was just like...
Wall-to-wall Jefferson quotes that weren't real.
A couple of Hitler quotes that were fake.
It was wild.
I don't understand how you can take such stock in these quotes and just be like, well, that's actually just from a meme.
That's not real.
gareth reynolds
Well, still, it's a pretty good meme.
dan friesen
It sounds good.
dave anthony
Yeah, it's a good meme.
It's a very good meme.
Yeah, I mean, once you see it in writing, then, you know, all bets are off.
It's a thing.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, we have Alex.
I'll be honest with you.
I'm not sure if there's much of a point to this clip.
Okay.
I'm playing it because I want you to feel what it's like to have some ramble in your life.
gareth reynolds
Thank you.
dan friesen
It's really just aimless.
alex jones
They knew when they were flying into flat clouds, that was the factories they had to bomb.
I know when I get enemy attacks that I'm over the target.
So if I get killed or set up, let's just get one thing straight.
You didn't have a victory over me, New World Order.
I knew what I was climbing into.
I knew the cockpit I was getting into.
I am steering into the flak.
The more I get, the more I know I'm on target.
So I just want everybody to understand that, that I'm in this to win it.
I'm not in this because I'm a narcissist.
I'm not in this because I want a big name for myself.
I am in an absolute war that I know is real.
I've committed my full life to it.
And I feel like I'm not doing a good enough job to fight these tyrants.
I believe in humanity and I'm committed.
And I want to believe in other libertarian talk show hosts.
I want to believe in you.
I want to beat these people.
I want a better world.
I want to uphold my family name.
I want to be honorable.
I want to look at the facts and try to give you the most reasoned, historical, morally based analysis I can.
And I'm impure myself.
I'm worldly myself.
I'm not perfect, folks.
I'm not on some high horse.
I'm not here lecturing you.
dan friesen
Yeah, so there are long stretches of his show that just are like that.
It's clear he's talking to himself.
dave anthony
Yeah, it's just rambling nonsense.
gareth reynolds
Well, and it actually reminds me a lot of the Hulk Hogan quote, thou doth protest too much.
dan friesen
That was actually Che.
gareth reynolds
Oh, sorry.
Sorry, damn it.
Well, either way, the point stands.
dan friesen
It's kind of fascinating to go and listen to as much of this show as you do, because there are these moments of, like, you're basically just someone who doesn't go to therapy, talking to yourself, talking about yourself in your feelings on air, and it can feel a little pointless.
gareth reynolds
You know you're in a good rhythm when you're saying, I'm not a narcissist.
That's how you know things are going pretty well.
dan friesen
It generally means you've been accused of that.
Yes.
gareth reynolds
But even for him, because it's sort of like the unwinding of his own mind, he's accusing himself and defending himself against himself a little bit.
dan friesen
Well, you know, it's a self-soothing behavior.
That's what he's engaged in.
He's expressing this idea, too.
You get the flack when you're above the target.
And that's his way of justifying every negative consequence that comes his way is actually a sign of his virtue.
Every attack is just because I'm so right about everything.
And it's pretty sad.
It's a bummer.
Sometimes you're just a dick.
gareth reynolds
And it's been so effective that it is like...
Even then, he was obviously such a...
Powerful figure at that time.
But to think that that has even grown out of that is so depressing because it's been so...
I remember when my friend's mom was like, I watch Fox News because it's fair and balanced.
And I was like, well, that's what they're saying.
You know what I mean?
What are you talking?
It's that simple to hack our dumb little brains, you know?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Catchphrases, man.
They work.
gareth reynolds
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just ask Gandhi.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So one of the things that actually is fun, sort of, about Alex's show is that he will come in from breaks with music sometimes, and he, like, really gets to feeling it.
Oh, wow.
One of the best that we've heard is Glenn Fry's You Belong to the City.
He rocks out over that, and it is amazing.
This is a little bit weaker than that, but still a pretty good example of him vibing.
alex jones
We are marching, my friends, towards what all analysts openly say, all analysts I've seen on television or read, across the political spectrum, say, could easily lead to thermal nuclear war.
Russian submarines carrying supersonic hydrogen bomb-tipped cruise missiles are now popping up off the coast of the United States, clearly to launch attacks if given the go-ahead codes against...
Russia is openly saying that they are prepared for nuclear war.
If the enemy of the globalist forces in Ukraine.
So, it's a little dramatic.
unidentified
Oh, man.
dave anthony
I could see that being like, that could be like, you know, you throw some Gorillaz music behind that and you've got to fucking hit track.
gareth reynolds
It is a mash-up, but it's like, it's just a terrible remix.
dan friesen
There is something to be said for Alex talking over music that, unfortunately, I think I'd buy an album of it.
It would be an interesting late career pivot for him to get into that.
gareth reynolds
It's like Tony Bennett's duets.
It's just like he can sort of just, he's bringing his spice to the classics.
dan friesen
Alex Jones doing the Great American Songbook.
gareth reynolds
Yeah, yeah, and it's just the music while he's just talking about the reptilians.
dave anthony
Yeah, it's William Shatnery on his album.
gareth reynolds
Yeah, right, right, yeah, it really is.
dan friesen
A little angrier, maybe?
dave anthony
Yeah.
dan friesen
Talking about Russian nuclear subs off the coast ready to launch?
gareth reynolds
Uh-huh, yeah.
unidentified
I don't think that's responsible, probably.
gareth reynolds
No, but God, I mean, that version is going to be stuck in my head all day.
dan friesen
So we get back to Glenn Beck business, because like I said, this is the top story of the day.
gareth reynolds
We're on the brink of nuclear war, plus that guy heard Glenn Beck while he was moving.
dan friesen
Right, and it involves Alex, and so it's very important.
So apparently some people at Fox have told Alex some things that are disconcerting.
alex jones
I was told that by high-level people.
I mean, repeatedly, it's not even that big of a deal.
I'd be going into Fox Studios to do another show.
They'd say, Glenn Beck is freaking out, climbing walls.
You can't come on now.
I mean, that's fine.
I'm going over to The View and going over to CNN.
I mean, it's not that big of a deal, but Glenn Beck and his, quote, people don't want you in here.
They're throwing fits.
And they've got pull in the government.
And I'm like, what do you mean?
And he goes, man, the guy's the government.
Glenn Beck is the government.
dan friesen
Wow.
alex jones
And, you know, I can name names, but I'm not going to name names, folks, okay?
dan friesen
He's not going to name names.
But Glenn Beck is the government.
gareth reynolds
Yeah, no, look, would naming names really help his case?
Because it's quite a claim?
For sure.
But Alex isn't going to do that.
dan friesen
No, he's above it.
He's classic.
gareth reynolds
Yeah, he's a class act.
unidentified
Yeah.
dave anthony
He was actually on The View.
dan friesen
He was, yeah.
He was talking about Charlie Sheen.
alex jones
Oh my god.
dan friesen
Charlie Sheen had that meltdown on Alex's show.
That was where it all happened.
And because Alex was at the center of that, he got invited on The View and just yelled Infowars.com a bit.
unidentified
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
dan friesen
It's pretty surreal, though, to see him sitting there on that set.
That's definitely super bizarre.
gareth reynolds
It feels like green screened.
I also like that Glenn Beck is climbing the walls like Spider-Man.
Glenn Beck is both freaking out over the existence of Alex Jones and the infringement upon Glenn Beck's orbit at some of these cable news operators, and at the same time is so powerful that he's the government.
dan friesen
He got upgraded from the FBI to the whole government, which is pretty impressive over the course of like an hour.
gareth reynolds
Yeah, within an hour.
So that's huge.
dan friesen
And apparently he's part of the Spider-Verse.
dave anthony
Have you ever seen Glenn Beck's Christmas show?
His one-man show about Randall the boy in the bicycle?
Have you ever seen it?
dan friesen
I have not.
dave anthony
I cannot recommend it enough.
The man is Out of his fucking mind.
We watched it in the theater, me and Josh Olsen.
And people got mad at us for laughing.
unidentified
Yeah, like the right-wing people were very...
They were decked out in their full flags and all that shit.
dan friesen
I can't imagine a scarier environment to see a movie like that.
dave anthony
It is a deep, deep, deep journey into the mind of Glenn Beck and it is fucking outstanding.
dan friesen
I've heard some great reviews of his books.
dave anthony
I've never read a book.
I mean, his books.
I've read books.
dan friesen
I've heard negative reviews of his books.
dave anthony
I can imagine.
dan friesen
So Alex isn't going to...
He's not going to name names.
gareth reynolds
Nope.
dan friesen
That's a policy that he has.
unidentified
But maybe...
gareth reynolds
In a way, it shows you that...
You know, he is honorable when it comes to not outing these sources.
dan friesen
Sure.
gareth reynolds
But it's also, god damn, would it really help some of this stuff.
Just to really validate it, it would just be so fucking helpful.
dan friesen
Could you give us a damn specific, please?
gareth reynolds
Just one, maybe.
Maybe name a name, just so we can be like, okay, yes, that name was right, now you don't need to anymore.
dan friesen
Well, maybe he will.
Maybe he will.
alex jones
Glenn Beck, you want it, buddy?
Maybe I'll name names, son.
You want it?
You're going to get it.
You want it?
You're going to get it.
As I gave you the benefit of the doubt, and I knew you were after me, and I said, leave me alone.
What, you think the fact that you're Benedict Arnold is going to come out?
You were spouting White House talking points three days before word for word it came out of Media Matters.
You got the memo before they did, bud.
We got your ass.
dave anthony
Whoa.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
He's got him.
You want more?
We're going to compile a dossier on all your people now, and we're going to put it out for folks.
We're going to realize your little base over there is a CIA-FBI substation.
gareth reynolds
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
This is quite a threat.
dave anthony
A CIA-FBI substation.
alex jones
Substation.
dan friesen
Yeah.
dave anthony
It is a below-ground CIA-FBI substation from which he runs...
The federal government.
And we know this!
Because he had the same talking point that Media Matters did three days later!
Case concluded, motherfucker!
unidentified
It's over!
dan friesen
And I should also say that we only know that this three-day thing is happening because Alex is saying it, and he's iffy on dates.
gareth reynolds
But again, once you get the dossiers compiled, which I'm sure they were, and put out, I'm sure that that was validating and corroborated all of it.
dan friesen
Well, sure.
Yeah.
And Glenn Beck went away because he was shamed out of the public.
gareth reynolds
Well, it was revealed that he was the government, and that's over.
dan friesen
And then he got deposed, I guess, because he's no longer the government.
gareth reynolds
Nope.
dan friesen
There was a coup.
dave anthony
No, but he still runs the FBI substation.
dan friesen
The substation kind of implies that it's in between a couple stations, you know, like in case people need to camp out there for a mission.
dave anthony
Or it's actually a station on a sub.
Think about it.
unidentified
Whoa.
dan friesen
In the middle of Texas?
Doesn't he operate out of doubt?
Maybe that's the high-level target that the nuke was going to hit.
gareth reynolds
I was just going to say, you better be careful where he's operating from.
dave anthony
Now we're getting to Jade Helm, aren't we?
gareth reynolds
Wow.
dave anthony
Yeah.
dan friesen
We've just got to figure out how the spiders play into this, and we are on to something.
gareth reynolds
Man, he must, he must, I mean, I don't, I mean, what, the level of drugs to keep this up.
dave anthony
Is it, yeah, I mean, we're thinking, like, what is the belief on him?
Is it, is it Adderall?
Is it, is it booze?
Is it a cocktail?
dan friesen
He's definitely a drunk, for sure.
He does his show drunk sometimes.
Less so lately, but in the past, he would be very clearly drunk.
Like, one Christmas Eve, he was so drunk, he threw a hatchet at one of his cameras.
It was madness.
Oh my god.
dave anthony
Wait, why didn't he have a hatchet?
dan friesen
Why didn't he?
Why wouldn't he have a hatchet?
gareth reynolds
Because it was Christmas Eve, dummy.
dan friesen
Sometimes he has big knives in the studio.
Sometimes he has a Barrett 40 cal cannon.
gareth reynolds
Oh my god!
dan friesen
There's a surreality to some of that.
But yeah, he had that hatchet.
That was a good day.
Rogan has said that Alex told him that he has a problem with Adderall.
And so there is some kind of a stimulant thing.
gareth reynolds
Right.
dan friesen
Feels like it.
gareth reynolds
Yeah, that's what keeps the words running.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And just any, like, I think...
You know, from performing and doing shows, you know it can be exhausting even though it doesn't look like it's exhausting.
dave anthony
Yeah.
dan friesen
And what he does is pretty high intensity and not have some kind of a supplement, if you will.
gareth reynolds
Yeah, that would be great if he just started selling that as the supplement.
The Adderall-Booze combo is pretty fucking ridiculously...
The way that Adderall can keep the gears going...
No matter what you're throwing at it, if you take enough, is pretty remarkable.
dan friesen
I've certainly had some friends tell me that if you're drinking pretty late, like maybe you're at 3, 4 a.m. bar here in Chicago, and someone gives you some cocaine, it balances you out a little bit.
You know, the stimulant and booze have that effect.
unidentified
Friends.
dan friesen
Friends.
Yes.
gareth reynolds
Yeah, and I know from having done cocaine at three or four in the morning.
unidentified
Oh, sorry, wait.
gareth reynolds
But it is.
And a lot of times it will be the appearance that you're in control, but your memories will not be there to really back that up.
So you will seem fine, but you are out of your mind.
dan friesen
This is how Alex gets away with forgetting that Glenn Beck is the government.
gareth reynolds
Right.
dan friesen
Right.
His holes in his memory.
gareth reynolds
Sure.
dan friesen
But look, so he's got to put together these dossiers, right, on Glenn Beck's staff.
And to do that, he's going to need some help.
And so he calls out.
He puts it out into the universe.
Obi-Wan kind of thing.
dave anthony
This is one fucking day of a fucking show.
This is one day.
unidentified
Yep.
dave anthony
This is fucking crazy.
dan friesen
Dave, honestly, this is one of the less crazy.
I was worried that some of these clips would be very boring.
gareth reynolds
Wow.
dan friesen
So here is Alex calling for some help.
alex jones
I wonder what Anonymous is going to do about this.
Anonymous?
Are you going to let them bring me down?
unidentified
What?
alex jones
I'm for real.
I need grassroots to come to my aid right now.
I can tell the enemy is rolling the Death Star around and is going to be clear to fire in five minutes.
What are you going to do?
unidentified
What?
alex jones
I need you to help me.
I'm for real.
People want to bring me down.
And they can bring me down.
They can bring you down.
They can bring Drudge down.
They can bring Roll Net Daily down.
They can bring the real liberal media down.
The libertarian Thomas Jefferson media down.
dan friesen
Yeah, the Thomas Jefferson media.
unidentified
What the fuck is happening?
gareth reynolds
It's amazing that it's like...
unidentified
I wonder if he's talked to anyone.
gareth reynolds
I wonder if, like...
And it's because there's no real information, but it's just evolving in his psychosis.
unidentified
To the point now where he's like, look, Anonymous, you're in the crosshairs now.
dan friesen
Yeah, you're just as exposed as I am here, you know?
gareth reynolds
To Glenn Beck because he's the government.
unidentified
Anonymous, Glenn Beck will unmask you and take you down.
dan friesen
I do love that.
At this point, Alex is looking at Anonymous as some kind of a, like, they got my back.
gareth reynolds
Come on, brothers.
dave anthony
Do we even know?
Wait, have we heard what Glenn Beck said about him yet?
dan friesen
He said that InfoWars wants a revolution and that he didn't want to get involved with the Bundys because InfoWars was involved.
gareth reynolds
And he made a false flag joke.
dave anthony
He just made a very nearly offhanded comment and this is what's happening.
dan friesen
He also said that Alex was excusing the racism of Cliven Bundy's comments.
gareth reynolds
Which Alex wasn't, but again, when you're dealing with racist time travelers, you have to be open to their racism a little bit.
dan friesen
Right, you'd be time travelist if you didn't.
gareth reynolds
Yeah, that's right.
dave anthony
It's just gotten so crazy that it's like, I can't remember where we started from because it's so...
I mean, this is...
gareth reynolds
Yeah.
dave anthony
Because he made those comments, now...
Now they are taking down everything.
dan friesen
If they're calling on Anonymous, bring down all of Glenn Beck's operation.
gareth reynolds
Dave, this is part of the globalist Death Star.
You should be freaked out.
dan friesen
Yeah.
They're ready to fire in five minutes.
gareth reynolds
You should be worried right now.
In the past 90 minutes, Glenn Beck.
He's gone from an AM radio show host to a cable news host to now he's the government who is going to unmask and take down all of these people.
dan friesen
Listen, Anonymous, if you don't stop him now, he's going to get his AT-ATs out and he's going to storm your base.
gareth reynolds
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I hate to say this, guys, because if you're having this much of, like, wonderment...
At this point?
I don't know if you can handle the next clip.
gareth reynolds
Oh, let's go.
I cannot fucking wait.
dan friesen
Because this is something that's kind of normal on his show, but for you, this might be a lot to take in.
gareth reynolds
I'm going to throw a hatchet.
dan friesen
Okay.
alex jones
I'm going to say a prayer.
God, I recognize that this is a key...
Please, I've been a humble servant and tried to be the best I can.
And please, please protect us and please help us expose the enemies within, foreign and domestic.
And please allow me to continue on in my work so that I can do a better job and continue to wake others up.
Or if it is your will that they destroy me, please let it be an edifying message to all so that we can learn from it and in the end defeat these enemies within, these Benedict Arnolds.
In the name of your son, Jesus Christ, amen.
gareth reynolds
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
I mean...
dave anthony
The best prayers always have my enemies, foreign and domestic, within them.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Man, to the balls.
gareth reynolds
Again, I mean, it's like...
If you just surround yourself with people who will let you get away with things, this is how you get to the point where you're doing pretty much one-on-one public prayers with God.
Religion was really the only thing separating him from Jim Jones.
And then, boom!
dan friesen
He prays on air more than you'd think.
And it's suspicious how often the prayers...
Seemed to be a performance.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
There's a little bit of a...
He's talking about Glenn Beck in this prayer, very clearly.
gareth reynolds
Yeah, he's sub-praying Beck.
unidentified
Yeah, that's it.
Sub-praying.
dan friesen
Now, if that wasn't too much to take in...
This next clip might, this will give you whiplash.
Jarring, because this is immediately after he prays, this is what he says.
alex jones
I just ask you all to pray for this broadcast, and to pray that all be revealed, and that all the veils be torn back from the would-be religious cult leader that is the CIA frontman, the FBI frontman, the Justice Department Obama frontman that is Glenn Beck.
gareth reynolds
Wow.
alex jones
And I just pray that that happen.
And if it's God's will, it will.
unidentified
He likes to invoke God all day.
alex jones
When I invoke God, I do it very humbly in God's presence.
dan friesen
Yeah, when Alex does it, it's classy.
dave anthony
Oh yeah, for sure.
dan friesen
He's sort of looking down on Glenn Beck for evoking God and bringing God up after he just prayed.
His enemy is foreign and domestic.
It's tough to get your head around.
gareth reynolds
It would just make so much sense if the set of InfoWars was just like multiplicity, where there were five of him, and they just are kind of swapping in and out.
You've got the religious Jones, the conspiratorial Jones, the musician Jones.
dan friesen
Sure.
The Terrified of Spiders Jones, the Just Reading Headlines Jones.
gareth reynolds
Spider Jones, which is the one where you're like, this one's not the best copy we've got.
The spider guy, we shouldn't let him on air too often.
dan friesen
The very red Alex Jones from that picture, that before and after picture.
gareth reynolds
Tomato Jones.
dan friesen
Tomato Jones.
gareth reynolds
Man, I mean...
dan friesen
Orlando Jones.
It's not the actor, it's actually just like a Florida Alex Jones.
gareth reynolds
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
He has, like, board shorts and a Hawaiian shirt.
gareth reynolds
It's really remarkable to think that nothing has changed.
unidentified
What's 2014?
gareth reynolds
No, in this two-hour period that nothing has changed except for potentially the level of intoxication or something, or just, like, the ratings or whatever, just the fact that he's just going.
dan friesen
I don't think he's drunk, to be fair.
I can usually tell, like, he has little tells.
And he seems pretty sober.
But here's the thing.
Like, every episode is essentially an adventure for him, you know?
He steps out his front door when he starts the show.
And who knows?
gareth reynolds
Who knows?
dan friesen
He could end up in Mordor.
He could end up just at the other side of the Shire.
Who knows?
It's Plinkum.
gareth reynolds
It's Plinkum.
Who knows where the Plinkum...
I mean, that is fucking amazing.
dan friesen
We have learned just an immense amount.
But we have more to learn about Glenn Beck.
gareth reynolds
Good.
dan friesen
Because we've learned he's the FBI.
unidentified
He's an Obama frontman.
dan friesen
Hold on.
Maybe not.
Maybe he's above Obama.
alex jones
I'm so tired of the betrayal and the treason.
I'm so tired of the dishonor.
I want to think more of people.
I want to believe that everything I was told about people wasn't true, even though it's been proven to be right.
There's no FEMA camps.
Ron Paul has a thing called a money bomb to blow up the government.
He said that when the first money...
Money bombs have been going on for six months back when he said that six, seven years ago.
The army needs to be used against these people.
That was the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Media Matters line then.
I kept saying these are government lines.
These are hardcore inside lines first, not later.
He doesn't repeat the lines later.
He progenerates.
He gives birth.
He coins them.
unidentified
He gets the memo first, folks.
alex jones
And I say he works for Obama.
It's above that.
And then I think about how did I get into such a hardcore game?
How am I some guy from Dallas, Texas, in the middle of this, ladies and gentlemen?
There's no secret room telling me what to do.
I don't have any advisors.
I'm just here, real, going up against these people.
dan friesen
What a hero.
gareth reynolds
Like, bragging.
Nobody's talking to me about this stuff.
unidentified
This is all straight off of the dome.
dan friesen
I'm just riffing this shit out.
gareth reynolds
Believe it or not, I am coming up with this.
dave anthony
The other thing is, like, if you're Glenn Beck, you're like, okay, so how do I counter this?
gareth reynolds
Yeah, well, if you're Glenn Beck's people, you're going and you're going, hey, just so you know, I guess Alex heard some of the things you said.
alex jones
Oh, what's he saying?
gareth reynolds
He's pretty pissed off.
I mean, whatever, you know, this is media.
This can happen.
Hey, Glenn, when you have a second, we have a...
No, someone told me about the Alex Jones thing.
No, no, it's gotten a little bit more out of control.
What's he saying now?
unidentified
In the last 15 minutes?
gareth reynolds
Yeah, yeah, in the last 15 minutes, he kind of...
I guess now his pitch is that you are pretty much inside the government working for the government.
Well, that's crazy.
dave anthony
You have a sub-FBI-CIA station.
gareth reynolds
Hey, Glenn.
Glenn, do you have...
Sorry, I know you're trying to get some work done.
dave anthony
Yeah.
gareth reynolds
There's just one more.
There's a new update.
So, it seems now that he's suggesting that you're sort of coming up with the talking points for the government.
So, you're no longer part of the government.
You maybe are the government.
And he bet his right arm on the fact that you are.
He'll cut his arm off if you're not.
unidentified
Again, sometimes I just think about how I wanted to be a stand-up.
gareth reynolds
Hey, Glenn, sorry.
I know it's only been eight minutes.
dave anthony
Yeah.
gareth reynolds
You're above Obama now.
You might be Obama.
dave anthony
How is that?
How am I supposed to say anything?
gareth reynolds
The show's got another two hours.
dave anthony
He's been running for 17 minutes.
gareth reynolds
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we'll keep you posted.
unidentified
Can I get back on with Samantha Bee to talk to her about this?
dan friesen
Can I apologize for something?
unidentified
Can I talk to him?
dan friesen
It's definitely a heavy day for Alex in terms of escalating.
It doesn't always snowball quite like this.
dave anthony
It feels druggy.
It feels like he's been popping pills as this has been going on.
gareth reynolds
Speaking of snowballs.
dave anthony
Maybe they just have a fog machine in the studio, but it just releases Adderall.
dan friesen
Ooh, vaporized Adderall.
gareth reynolds
That's a good theory.
dan friesen
We're on to something here.
I don't know.
I mean, like, is anger a drug?
I mean, it kind of is for some folks.
unidentified
It is in the way, yeah, Dave will tell you.
gareth reynolds
It is in the way, too, where it's like he is, you know, he's not shouting at his friends at a bar.
He recognizes the, you know, people are listening to this shit.
And if they're eating up the trash, that makes him want to throw more trash.
And as the day goes on, the trash piles have to get bigger and crazier.
And so now he's just sort of slamming around in a pile.
dan friesen
That's one of the problems with this style of broadcast just in general.
dave anthony
Yeah, the whole media.
I mean, I've had friends that have gone completely insane because they're just in a room talking to themselves on YouTube.
Yeah, it's a bad medium if you're alone and no one is going, hey...
Check yourself a little bit here.
dan friesen
If you don't have a boss and a lot of the stuff that you're talking about is kind of extreme, then people respond to the extreme stuff, and then you kind of lean into that, and how are you exciting if you're used to saying extreme stuff?
It's a downward spiral.
gareth reynolds
And tomorrow, you need to say some crazier shit.
dan friesen
What's Glenn Beck going to be tomorrow?
gareth reynolds
Yeah.
dan friesen
We all have Russian subs off the coast ready to nuke America, and Glenn Beck is above Obama.
gareth reynolds
I've got a new merch pitch would be, what's Glenn Beck going to be tomorrow?
dan friesen
I'm going to have Jordan put that up on our TeePublic or whatever.
unidentified
But imagine coming back around and then being friends with this guy.
dave anthony
That'd be like me being friends with Jen Kirkman.
It's not something that can happen.
gareth reynolds
I think it'll happen.
dan friesen
To be fair, I think Alex has said way worse things about Glenn Beck than this.
This could be argued to be a compliment.
gareth reynolds
In a way, it's a scary compliment, but in a way it is.
You are higher than Obama.
By the way, you know who's higher than Obama?
Alex Jones.
He is high as fuck.
dan friesen
But it's definitely an insult or an accusation that involves competence.
Glenn Beck, you are so competent that you are above the president.
gareth reynolds
Anonymous, let's go.
dan friesen
Yeah, I need a giant team of faceless hackers in order to take you down.
I can rationalize that as being a positive.
unidentified
Yeah, it's a scary compliment, but it's a compliment.
dave anthony
This was from 2014, so did Anonymous come to help him?
I can't remember.
gareth reynolds
Oh yeah, Glenn Beck unmasked them.
unidentified
We saw Obama's birth certificate.
dave anthony
It was back.
dan friesen
Actually, Alex doesn't believe the birth certificate stuff.
dave anthony
Oh my god!
gareth reynolds
What a line.
dan friesen
He initially believed it, but then he realized that it was a trick because the people like the Obamas put it out knowing that people like Alex and the right-wing community were racists, and so they would jump on top of it and take the bait.
dave anthony
It's a false flag certificate.
dan friesen
You bet.
You bet.
In reality, Obama's dad is Frank Marshall Davis.
dave anthony
I'm sorry?
dan friesen
He's a communist guy.
I don't know.
I haven't taken this line too much further than that.
He made a documentary about it at some point.
He sold a documentary about it called Dreams of My Real Father.
gareth reynolds
Oh my lord, what a title.
unidentified
It's still a bit racist, to be honest.
gareth reynolds
It was a different time, Dan.
dan friesen
Alex is a time traveler.
gareth reynolds
He's a time, for God's sake.
dan friesen
So, at this point, we've entered the sort of home stretch of the show, and Alex brings on Joseph Farah, the guy who runs World Net Daily, onto the program.
unidentified
Oh, God.
dan friesen
We're not going to listen to, well, just one clip of it, because it's pretty boring.
It's mostly about how the Clintons wanted to take him out, and I don't know how that's relevant.
dave anthony
Take out Alex or the World Net Daily?
dan friesen
World Net Daily, back in the 90s.
Yeah, yeah.
And so now we're in 2014.
Sort of getting credibility off that.
dave anthony
Did they end up murdering?
They didn't.
Okay.
unidentified
No.
dave anthony
Because I'm not sure if he got murdered and then this is a clone or an imposter.
dan friesen
No, but they were close because he was asking too many questions about Vince Foster.
gareth reynolds
There's the buzz name.
dave anthony
Oh, gee.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Farrah, one of his big points is that, like, we got to stick together.
There's not many of us who are, you know, in this.
And he accidentally includes Glenn Beck in his list of names.
unidentified
Oh, yes.
For a long time, when I started the World Network, for years, I thought to myself, you know, I wonder why nobody else is doing this.
I wonder why nobody else is saying, hey, we're having a modest degree of success here.
Why isn't anybody joining the press?
Finally, after many years, there have been Infowars, the Breitbart, the Daily Callers, Glenn Beck.
Now we have some other folks out there joining us, and we've got to make sure that we don't split hairs with them.
The other side wants to have a united front.
I totally agree.
alex jones
We talk about this every time on the phone or on air.
And Savage is doing that.
Good for him.
I mean, the attacks, and I'm not going to bring it up, it's just Beck saying that, quote, I want a violent revolution and a civil war when I say the opposite, that I'm a racist covering up for Bundy.
I mean, maybe you're right, maybe he's just doing it out of fear, but it doesn't matter.
I'm being thrown under the bus here, and it's very creepy, and I'm just glad that you're an honorable person, Joseph Farah.
Look forward to seeing you next week, and I'm glad you're not a coward.
unidentified
All right, man, God bless.
dave anthony
That's how I end my interviews.
Really, every lunch I have with anybody, I end it by saying, I'm glad you're not a coward.
That's always how I end things.
unidentified
I do it after someone orders.
gareth reynolds
I'm glad you're not a coward.
unidentified
You went with fries instead of potato salad.
gareth reynolds
I mean, it really is amazing to have said all the things you've said.
And then have this guy drop Glenn Beck and be like, well, look, to be honest, I'm not a huge Glenn Beck fan.
unidentified
It's like, you're not a huge fan or he's higher than Obama?
dan friesen
Yeah, there's some dissonance.
dave anthony
How do you not say to that guy, he says that about Glenn Beck, and you go, well, you know, he has a substation and he runs the FBI.
gareth reynolds
What's that, Alex?
dan friesen
I think this question answers itself, and that is that Joseph Farah is not a coward.
Bringing this up would inevitably lead to some pushback.
And I think that's probably why you just go along to get along.
None of this means anything anyway.
Alex doesn't actually believe that Glenn Beck is above Obama.
gareth reynolds
But it's so clear there that that's the case because he uses it in the wrap-up.
Well, to be honest, I'm not a huge Glenn Beck fan.
He says Civil War.
But anyway, you know, potato, potato.
Great to have you on.
dan friesen
I just got to defend myself.
gareth reynolds
I gotta defend myself a little bit.
He might be in charge of the globalist Death Star.
We're not sure.
Anyway, a little help from my friends is gonna play us out.
dan friesen
Anonymous!
A little help from Anonymous!
Yeah, it's silly.
Things don't make sense, and that's just part of the info war, you know?
gareth reynolds
Oh, man.
Man.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
In this third hour of his show, he was interviewing Joseph Farah, and then the premise was basically that he was going to take calls.
But time essentially runs out.
Too much time complaining about Glenn Beck, and so there's no calls.
And Alex is feeling a little bit like, you know, I'm cool.
I'm a cool guy.
And that's kind of the vibe he wants to go out on.
alex jones
He's globalist or evil.
I said I'd take calls, but I won't.
I'm out of time.
It's so creepy to be targeted by the White House.
dan friesen
Glenn Beck.
alex jones
The average person is scared of what their neighbor thinks of them.
Every once in a while, I'll be in a restaurant or walking down the street or in a store and some socialist, globalist will come over and go, Alex Jones, you're a kook, an idiot, and I hate you.
I like to kick your butt.
Or, look up, there's kook, man.
Or, boo, boo, look over to my table.
That's happened a few times.
Is it some liberal thing they do?
unidentified
They go, boo, boo, boo, shame on you.
alex jones
And it just means nothing to me.
I was over to Buddy's once at his local community pool hot tub, and these trendies come over, and they go, Alex Jones, I think you're a disgrace and a cooter.
unidentified
And they all said, he went, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah.
alex jones
It was a couple months ago.
Weldon was there.
He was over there with me.
unidentified
Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah.
alex jones
We had a few beers, and I just looked at them, and I just kept talking to them, and they laughed, and my buddies laughed because it meant nothing to me.
dan friesen
It didn't upset him.
dave anthony
No, he's just talking about it.
He doesn't even remember it.
dan friesen
I always find that to be really sincere and convincing when people...
dave anthony
It doesn't bother me.
unidentified
Yeah, it doesn't bother me at all.
gareth reynolds
It doesn't bother me.
I'm talking about it here because I'm fine with it.
I was just at a community pool slash hot tub.
dan friesen
Gareth, it seemed to disgust you a little bit.
You were taken aback by the community pool.
gareth reynolds
First of all, community pool, like, I'm like, is Alex Jones going to a community pool?
But that's not crazy.
But community hot tub just has, like, weird kind of orgy vibes.
You know what I mean?
Like, community hot tub.
It's like a community pool.
I'm like, alright, somewhere for the kids to go on the weekends.
It's like community hot tub's like, alright, you fucking creep.
dan friesen
Yeah, the part after the slash was...
gareth reynolds
Yeah, community pool slash...
What color does Alex Jones turn in a hot tub?
dan friesen
It's Lobster Town, man.
gareth reynolds
Yeah, I mean, seriously, he must start crustaceaning.
dan friesen
Well, here's the thing.
You guys don't listen to a ton of this.
You wouldn't know, but a lot of Alex's stories take place in hot tubs.
He has a famous story about being in a hot tub and a couple of globalists came in and were like, we're gonna get you.
They were like threatening him in the hot tub.
And then another time he was at a hot springs and some globalists came.
He gets threatened by globalists in hot water a lot.
gareth reynolds
He might want to steer clear of some of these hot bodies.
dan friesen
But it's so relaxing.
dave anthony
Is there a space in here?
I'm a globalist.
Excuse me.
gareth reynolds
So it says six people at a time.
dave anthony
Is that six regular humans?
unidentified
How many globalists may squeeze in?
dan friesen
Now, don't mind my eight legs.
unidentified
Yeah, pardon me.
gareth reynolds
I'm an arachnid, you see.
dave anthony
The spider comes out.
unidentified
And what do you do, sir?
gareth reynolds
I'm a globalist.
dan friesen
It's on the business card.
unidentified
Hey, I'm a globalist.
gareth reynolds
We're both in the globalist business.
dan friesen
So this brings us to the end of this episode, and I don't know if you have some feelings on making it through.
Something of basically your birthday.
Your show's birthday.
unidentified
Wow.
dave anthony
At least everything's gone so much better since then.
gareth reynolds
Yeah, it is like, you know, I mean, he's just such a train wreck figure.
But it's almost like, I guess you think of him when you don't know as much as you all do.
You know, that he is, I mean, he is dangerous in so many ways, but it's also, this is the mind of a child.
unidentified
Yeah.
gareth reynolds
It's just a child's mind, and it's just pretty simple what's going on, and it's, I guess, very effective for those who are in, but there's really not much to it.
He's just trying to keep the fucking, you know, keep the train running.
Just keep the words coming out, create the straw men.
You know, he's got his terms, they're very effective, and to what you were saying, like, he walks out his door and he doesn't know what he's going to do.
I mean, every day he's a Pixar movie for him.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm certain he has essentially no preparation for anything.
Just seat of his pants.
And that's how you can get these ridiculous things, like an entire show where he's escalatingly accusing Glenn Beck of stuff.
Right.
It's like, well, I have nothing else really to talk about.
I've already made people scared about this nuclear war thing, and I've got nowhere else to go with that.
gareth reynolds
I mean, it's just, what can I say in between Hawking's survival items?
dave anthony
He really is like, when people, like, you have a friend that did something, and then you just, in your head, you're like, oh, I'm going to say this to him and this to him, and then it kind of spirals out, and you're just thinking of all this stuff.
But that's all he does on his show.
It's the kind of thoughts you have, and then you go, oh no, it's just Frank, I'll just fucking call him.
But he just goes for hours.
It's a guy spiraling out for fucking hours.
gareth reynolds
If this was so hugely important, it probably should have gotten on his radar in another way than a guy who worked for him was moving.
dan friesen
Well, again, like I said, the guy who was moving's brother heard it and told the guy who was moving.
unidentified
I mean, it's like, come on!
dave anthony
God, it's so good.
gareth reynolds
He won't reveal his sources, and when he does, it's a guy who works for his brother.
dan friesen
One of his big sources of information in the present day is his wife's tennis partner.
He gets a lot of deep intel from her.
unidentified
But, yeah, you know, this show's stupid.
dave anthony
So the next day, is he just over it completely and on to something else, or will he continue on with something like this, or will he just drop it?
dan friesen
It changes.
I'm not sure.
I haven't listened to the next day's episode, so I couldn't say for sure.
Sometimes it becomes a little bit of a crusade, and then sometimes he'll get distracted by something.
Or he went on Piers Morgan's show and yelled at him about guns.
Alex started a petition to get Piers Morgan deported.
dave anthony
That's great.
gareth reynolds
Finally, we agree.
dan friesen
Yeah, and then he went on Piers Morgan's show and started yelling at him about how, like, you guys tried to take our guns in 1776, and that became, like, two weeks of his show.
unidentified
Wow.
dave anthony
That's not even remotely...
dan friesen
Don't tell Alex that.
unidentified
Because he will yell at you for weeks.
That's actually what the World of Independence is about.
dan friesen
It was gun confiscation.
gareth reynolds
Thank you for having us on, Dan.
dan friesen
Thank you.
I'm sure almost everybody who listens to our show will be aware of y 'all's show, The Dollop, but is there anything else you want to direct people's attention to that they should check out?
unidentified
I mean, I would keep your eyes on Glenn Beck.
gareth reynolds
Keep your eyes peeled.
We have a virtual show we're doing September 8th.
We're touring, so you can go to dolloppodcast.com.
I'll be recording some shows in Seattle, Portland, and Vancouver.
You can go to garethreynolds.com for those stand-up shows.
And listen to the dollop, like you said.
dan friesen
Hell yeah.
Dave?
dave anthony
I got nothing.
You know.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
dave anthony
Check me out on Twitter.
I'm yelling at people.
gareth reynolds
You can get into Dave's Twitter bar.
unidentified
Got that protected status.
dave anthony
Don't you think Twitter ends with me having blocked everybody on Twitter just yelling at myself?
gareth reynolds
I think it ends when you realize you can block yourself.
dan friesen
If you do end up blocking everybody and you're just yelling at yourself, eventually this episode of Alex is going to be your future.
Well, thanks again, guys.
It's been a real pleasure, and I hope we can do it again sometime.
gareth reynolds
Yeah, love to.
Thanks, dude.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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