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Aug. 12, 2022 - Knowledge Fight
02:08:14
#715: Trial Recap, Part 2

Today, Dan and Jordan wrap up trial coverage by looking at how Alex responded to the news of his punitive damages judgment.  Bad news: it's a lot of Bobby Barnes.  Good news: the gents meet Willford Snibble-Snabble of the Gribble-Pibble.

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alex jones
19:49
d
dan friesen
01:08:39
j
jordan holmes
26:12
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mark bankston
01:16
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owen shroyer
01:58
r
robert barnes
04:58
Clips
c
clay clark
00:17
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larry klayman
00:02
m
mike adams
00:01
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steve quayle
00:02
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wesley todd ball
00:13
Callers
andy in kansas
00:01
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
It's time to pray.
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your world.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan.
We are recording this late due to some logistics.
And so I can say that my bright spot is that we just got done recording the majority report.
I guess it was live, so it wasn't recorded.
But yeah, I didn't get a chance to say some gushy things that I might have wanted to.
But that show was very...
Important, I think, early on during the show, a lot of people ask me, like, how do you stay sane listening to all this Alex?
And one of the things that was really critical for me was there is a groundedness to reality in a lot of the interviews that Sam and the co-hosts do with people surrounding, like, you know, some political things and policy issues.
And I found that to be very comforting in the same way that, like...
I don't know, my parents listening to and watching like the McNeil-Layer hour when I was a kid.
jordan holmes
Well, it's granular.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
That's what you're, you like granular.
And it's real.
dan friesen
And it's talking about real stuff as opposed to so much of what InfoWars is.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And then the entertainment value of just like Sam and Andy Kindler breaking down Dennis Miller shit.
jordan holmes
Doesn't get better than that.
dan friesen
And so, you know, when we started the show, that was something that was really helpful in terms of keeping me on the level.
And the notion of being able to be on the show and...
jordan holmes
Just crazy, isn't it?
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that, I mean, I think that this sneak week has been really bizarre.
Yeah.
unidentified
And no disrespect to CNN or Brian Stelter.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
But, like, there doesn't compare.
dan friesen
No.
unidentified
Being on with Sam and the majority report was, like, something not bucket list-y, but, you know.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
That's big.
Anyway, what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is, first off, obviously that, too.
But second, my mother-in-law were gracious enough.
dan friesen
Also, shout out DJ Danarchy.
jordan holmes
Oh my god, yes!
Shout out to DJ Danarchy by a million!
Jesus Christ!
dan friesen
I just wanted to interrupt you.
jordan holmes
I feel like we say nice things about him all the time, and never enough.
Never enough.
Yeah, no, they invited their daughter to go to Ireland with them, and then I married her, so they have to take me now, too.
So I am going to Ireland tomorrow.
You'll be hearing this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I hear that the Lucky Charms there, it tastes better.
Much like the Guinness.
jordan holmes
It's a lot like wine in Paris.
The Lucky Charms in Ireland, you just don't get them anywhere else.
dan friesen
I was trying to think of something that I would like you to bring me back.
Yeah.
And I don't know.
I just think of, like, moss.
unidentified
Racist things?
No.
dan friesen
No, like, I was thinking about what I would want.
I would want to go someplace that has, like, the peat moss.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
And, like, you know, just lay on it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And I don't think you can really bring that back, nor would it be worth it.
jordan holmes
I think it's illegal for me to bring that back.
dan friesen
It might be.
You would have to declare it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Which would be an odd thing to declare.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't drink that much these days, so, like, Guinness or whiskey would not really...
jordan holmes
Nah.
Not the thing.
dan friesen
I'll come up with something.
I'll text you.
jordan holmes
I'll come up with something.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
And then I'll text you.
dan friesen
Something probably very thoughtful.
I hope you have a great trip.
And that leads us to...
I haven't really fully decided exactly how we're going to play it yet exactly, but you're going to be gone for the next week.
And so our ability to record any episodes is going to be gone, basically.
Reduced to nothing.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so I guess if there's a giant emergency, we could Skype in the middle of the night.
jordan holmes
Always, always.
dan friesen
So that is a possibility.
And I don't like taking time off, so there's a decent chance I'll come up with something to do, but...
Temper your expectations.
After sneak week, there may be a creeping away week.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, the truth is, you need at least some break, and the only way to enforce that is to leave the country.
dan friesen
You know from past times you've left the country that that doesn't work.
jordan holmes
It doesn't work, but maybe you take a day or two.
dan friesen
We'll see.
But yeah, there may be one episode next week.
There might actually be none, but we're not entirely sure.
We will...
We will see what happens.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, there's no way that we put out, you know, like, 12 hours of content in the past seven days that people need time to catch up on.
dan friesen
You'd think.
And you picked a good time to go.
Like, there's nothing happening.
Yep.
So today we're going to be finishing up the trial recap coverage.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And so what that's going to be is talking about Alex's show on Friday, which is the day when later in the day the punitive damages would be announced.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then a bit of the afternoon and a special report Alex put out on Saturday discussing...
The punitive damages.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
And because you're going to be gone, I mean, it might have to wait a week to find out what he said about the raid on Mar-a-Lago.
How under attack we are, and how the FBI has got to go, and uh-oh, don't attack the FBI, guys.
I didn't say that.
jordan holmes
It wasn't me.
dan friesen
Anyway, we'll get down to business on this, but before we do, Jordan, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Steve, thank you so much.
You are now Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, I like mine with lettuce and tomato, Heinz 57, and french fried potatoes.
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Boo!
dan friesen
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Not a Buffett fan.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Next, drink every time Jordan says, right, right, right, and die of alcohol poisoning.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Next, fuck the horse that gave me a little breaky in my arm.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, the other Patty.
Not the Patty, the other one.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Next, Mike.
Knowledge fight is cathartic for depression, but not as much as UT nuclear reactor aren't.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Johnny.
This is your dad.
You got to start listening to knowledge fight.
Now walk the dog and do your schoolwork.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy one!
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you!
And we have something very exciting this weekend, and we wanted to wish a very heartfelt congratulations to a couple who are getting married.
Impy and Mr. Impy, tying the old knot, and we want to wish you nothing but years and years, as many as you've got left, of happiness.
I'm not good at these things.
jordan holmes
May all your summers be as dreamy and creamy as the dreamy, creamy summer.
dan friesen
You're practicing for Ireland.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm doing.
That's what I'm doing, man.
dan friesen
Well done.
From what I understand, Impy is a mod on one of the discords.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
And there may be some wonks at the wedding.
unidentified
Oh!
dan friesen
So that is very exciting.
jordan holmes
That is exciting.
dan friesen
And in honor of that, we would like to declare your wedding a raptor princess.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
alex jones
I'll barbecue your ass.
mike adams
It's over for humanity.
alex jones
Your beautiful soul, they're coming for your balls.
Well, I piss all over your god.
Very few people crap in the pool unless they're babies.
I piss all over the state.
larry klayman
You make it a practice of calling people pieces of garbage?
unidentified
When they are.
Comet as you see fit.
dan friesen
Congratulations.
jordan holmes
Congratulations.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, like I said, we're going to get into this.
In part one of the series, which you put out earlier, we looked at Alex's testimony from the Sandy Hook trial and reviewed his response to the announcement of the compensatory damages, which ended up being a little over $4 million.
That took us to Thursday afternoon, and the next day the trial entered the punitive phase, which ended before we entered the weekend.
On this episode, we're going to pick up where we left off and tune into Alex's show the morning of that Friday, August 5th, and track the response as the reality of the punitive damages sets in, and he has to wrestle with a very large weight that he is now carrying, both in terms of financial consequences.
Yeah, not good.
unidentified
Well...
jordan holmes
I mean, his future.
dan friesen
If you're approaching it from a reality, yeah.
Yeah.
unidentified
But if you're approaching it from Alex Land...
dan friesen
Here is how we start the show.
jordan holmes
No!
alex jones
It's Friday, August 5th, 2022.
I'm Alex Jones, live at studio.
Strap yourselves in.
unidentified
Thank you.
mark bankston
One of the things you've been talking about on your show is your allegation that government officials are aiding in pedophilia, child trafficking, and the grooming of children.
unidentified
What do you mean like what Jeffrey Epstein did with a close?
No.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
mark bankston
Your allegation...
jordan holmes
That's your dunk.
mark bankston
...are aiding in pedophilia, child trafficking, and the grooming of children, right?
unidentified
Wait, we're doing it twice.
jordan holmes
Same one.
alex jones
Love the great meme makers out there.
Great job.
Love you all.
dan friesen
Love it.
So, this clip that Alex is playing is cut to make it seem like Alex is dropping a truth bomb on the court, but if you listen to the larger clip, or really just Mark's response, it doesn't actually feel that way in reality.
mark bankston
Is your allegation that government officials are aiding in pedophilia, child trafficking, and the grooming of children, right?
unidentified
You mean like what Jeffrey Epstein did with the cleanse?
mark bankston
Sure, if that's a yes, is that a yes?
alex jones
Uh, yes.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
dan friesen
No one cared that Alex brought up Epstein.
It wasn't a mic drop moment, and honestly, it wasn't even meaningful in the context of the question.
Mark just says, yeah, sure.
That was a question about Alex making accusations about the judge in this case being involved in pedophilia and child trafficking, which is conveniently not included in the memes that Alex is playing because it wouldn't support the fun, truth-telling thing that they were hoping to convey with the memes.
In the real world, this question was part of a setup for a trap that Alex walked himself into, which helped impede Alex is a painfully unserious person and this should be a great example of that.
What he said isn't threatening to anyone.
It evoked more rolled eyes than anything else in the courtroom and it was part of a line of questioning that was pretty effective in demonstrating that Alex was not at all a good faith participant in the trial and that his testimony was not something the jury should be taking at face value.
But it has the appearance of being something that owns the libs or something.
So people made memes and Alex decides to start his show with it because that's great.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's sad.
I would want at least more than one clip of a different, you know, like...
dan friesen
There wasn't much to go from.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, if you've only got the one clip, that's more sad than if you, you know.
dan friesen
Well, how are you going to make memes out of Alex, like, coughing a bunch and like, I got a torn layer.
Oh, you got my phone.
jordan holmes
That would be more fun.
I would like that.
Oh, you got my text, didn't you?
Huh.
unidentified
How about that?
dan friesen
Well, it's harder to play that boxing commentary after that because then the message is that Alex is the one who got knocked out.
jordan holmes
It is difficult.
dan friesen
You don't want to convey that.
jordan holmes
It is difficult.
dan friesen
Now, one thing.
I will say is that this episode involved a bit more news than I expected.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
I mean, there's plenty of navel-gazing to go around.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
But there are some headlines that Alex covers, and some of them are a little bit fun.
alex jones
Okay, we have the official announcements happening everywhere of shutting off the economy, and that cannibalism will now be good.
New York Times, Washington Post, Der Spiegel, all of it.
They were officially saying, when I told you two years ago, they would start saying, that cannibalism is good.
dan friesen
Cannibalism is good!
jordan holmes
Alright, it's about time.
I have been waiting for someone to say cannibalism is good.
dan friesen
So this is just Alex playing fun games with headlines to create the perception that we're on the path to eating each other, which doesn't really make sense.
I thought Klaus Schwab wanted us to eat bugs, but now we're supposed to eat each other?
This is dumb.
In the past, we've discussed why cannibalism is inefficient as a diet in all but the most extreme circumstances.
The calories expended to kill a person and eat them would likely not be worth what you'd get from it, you know?
Yeah.
unidentified
And so there's a whole other bunch of issues.
dan friesen
Even leaving, like, societal taboos aside, it's not a good thing.
jordan holmes
We're called the most dangerous game.
dan friesen
Right.
And that means it's a challenge.
What's going on is that the show Yellow Jackets is really popular, and that's a show that involves a girls' soccer team who are on a plane that crashes into the wilderness in Canada.
They have to survive for a long time, and apparently cannibalism is involved in the pilot episode.
jordan holmes
It's a really good show.
I watched it.
dan friesen
It's kind of like a live, but not really like it at all.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The crash in the show happens in 1996, and the show includes tracking the girls who survived in their current lives in 2021, and it's very heavily implied that their resorting to cannibalism wasn't entirely based on a need to eat human flesh to survive.
jordan holmes
Oh no.
dan friesen
There's weird stuff going on.
You've watched it, I'll admit that I haven't, but from the reviews and breakdowns I've read, it seems like it has a little bit of supernatural nonsense and the Lord of the Flies kind of vibe in it.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
I would try to discuss the plot more, but that would involve spoilers, and honestly...
idea what's going on with that show and i bet you don't either it's kind of it's one of those shows where it's like what if we imply everything and then we'll get a second season and we'll we'll fuck it up then right now i think i think it seems like one of those shows that if i hadn't gone along for the entire ride of lost yeah and then also flash forward yeah many other shows maybe i would jump in totally but I'll wait.
jordan holmes
See, I didn't see Lost.
I didn't see all these things, so I'm fine with it for now.
dan friesen
You haven't been burned.
jordan holmes
You know, next season is gonna be garbage, and they're gonna be like, we're gonna explain things, and there'll be midichlorians involved, so whatever.
dan friesen
Maybe, maybe not.
You never know.
Anyway, in the wake of that show's massive success, it was released on DVD in mid-July, so there's renewed conversation about it, including discussion of the coming second season and the cannibalism scene in the first episode that apparently wasn't even explained by the season finale.
People are talking about this show that they're enjoying, so the New York Times published an op-ed about a couple of pieces of cannibalism-related creative works that have come out recently, seemingly building on the premise that cannibalism is a hot topic in fiction these days.
Naturally, the right wing went batshit over this and created an entire news cycle based on the nonsense.
That you should eat people.
Alex is a shallow thinker and a shallower reader, so he's not read this op-ed, and I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't even read the full text or the breathlessly outraged response articles that were written about it.
But if he had read the original thing, he would have read this part towards the end.
Quote, According to Miss Summers, cannibalism is always symbolic.
For her novel's protagonist, eating human flesh can be seen as a way of holding onto a relationship that ended.
For Miss Summers herself, the plot of A Certain Hunger can't be uncoupled from, quote, my own personal experiences with disordered eating, with the tamping down of feminine appetites, the way the media chews up and spits out writers, Bougie consumption and bougie lady consumption, she said.
More generally, Miss Summers thinks that the recent spate of cannibalistic plots could be commentaries on capitalism.
Quote, Cannibalism is about consumption, and it's about burning up from the inside in order to exist.
Burnout is essentially over-consuming yourself, your own energies, your own will to survive, your sleep schedule, your eating schedule, your body.
The article is a thoughtful examination of some of the social commentaries that are possibly being made by themes of cannibalism that are being expressed in a very limited set of pieces of media, including a very popular recent series.
But of course, for people like Alex, it's secretly the Times telling everyone that eating people is trendy now.
This is idiotic kid shit.
But it's fun!
At least it's something.
jordan holmes
I mean, here's the thing for me.
I'm trying to imagine what the real world would look like if a positive...
This cannibalism article was released.
Beyond right-wing freakout, we all live in a world where suddenly the New York Times is like, hey, guess what?
We talked to this scientist, and he's like, actually, we're super nutritious, and when we die, you should eat your grandparents in front of them.
What would that look like?
dan friesen
I definitely get the conversation surrounding, hey...
A lot of the world does eat insects, and that's not something that is weird to everybody.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's a cultural thing.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
There are a very efficient source of nutrition and protein.
jordan holmes
They can be rebred a million times.
dan friesen
Right.
I understand that conversation.
Conversation would never happen as it relates to human flesh.
jordan holmes
It couldn't!
It just simply couldn't!
You would put a name on it!
You would be like, oh, yeah, yeah, so yesterday we ate Grandpa Joe, and then everybody would have to stop for a second, think about themselves.
dan friesen
The only way it would exist in any kind of publication would be in some kind of a Swiftian satire kind of context.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it would have to be.
dan friesen
But yeah, it is funny to have Alex.
Like, I do appreciate that because it does feel more normal for Alex to be like, ah, they're trying to make you eat people.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that does feel natural.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And having been on such a long, like...
Ah, I'm a victim.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It is kind of nice to have a little bit of something else, even if it is entirely stupid.
jordan holmes
I will accept that that was a breath of fresh air in a certain sense.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's still rancid, but it was fresher than previous.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So there's some other news.
Down in Florida, some things are going on.
But this is before the raid on Mar-a-Lago, so don't get too excited.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
We're going to hit that.
We're going to hit the huge developments with DeSantis leading the charge, firing, and then having the police go to the offices of Soros operatives inside the government so they can't destroy any evidence of them criminally taking orders from the big guy.
dan friesen
Oh, so this is before Mar-a-Lago got raided, so this kind of idea is pretty good.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
This is a good thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, so government figures homes being raided.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
It's pretty cool.
jordan holmes
You want them to do that because they're corrupt.
dan friesen
So this is about DeSantis firing the Hillsborough state attorney, Andrew Warren, because he refused to prosecute cases regarding trans people and reproductive health care cases.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The reason this is a big deal and a clear abuse of power is that the state attorney is an elected...
jordan holmes
Ooh, can't do it.
dan friesen
And, yeah, so I think, you know, you could...
There are processes to remove the person from office, but the governor just sort of dismissing a person, it's a little bit dicey.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's probably bad if a governor is willing to just risk being a fascist and see if it pays off, you know?
Like, that's a bad sign is when the governor is like...
You know what?
Fuck it.
I bet there's a 50-50 shot this one works.
Because I think that he really does think that.
dan friesen
I will boot this person that people voted in.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Maybe it works.
Maybe it doesn't.
And if it works, guess what?
I'm dictator now.
I own Florida.
dan friesen
If it works, it opens up a lot of doors.
jordan holmes
It opens up a lot of doors.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex is not going to be hosting the show the whole time today.
alex jones
And then Mike Adams in studio.
Always amazing.
Wow.
Coming up at the second hour, and he's going to also have some big guests on with him.
Because I've got to go back down to this kangaroo court.
The rest of it, I'll be here for about an hour and 15 minutes.
And I'll be back this evening, as I did last night, shooting special reports and going on The War Room with Owen Schroyer.
3 to 6 p.m.
I should be in there during the last hour today.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Mike Adams is going to come fill in, and I'll tell you what, I skipped it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Smart.
dan friesen
Not listening to the Health Ranger.
jordan holmes
Nope.
Don't care.
His throat sounds a lot better.
I'm glad he's feeling better.
unidentified
He's got 18 throat drops in his mouth right now.
jordan holmes
It does feel like his throat sounds so much better.
It's so wild.
dan friesen
He says he has a cough button and all that, and I know that he does, but still.
jordan holmes
Come on.
dan friesen
The protracted...
Actually, we're going to get to it.
We have an excuse for why it was so bad.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And it's great.
jordan holmes
Because there was some bad acting.
dan friesen
His excuse is pretty awesome.
jordan holmes
Okay, alright.
I'll listen.
dan friesen
So, there is, like I said, there is still some navel-gazing.
There's still some talking about his own victimhood.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And it involves Alex actually accusing the judge of criminal behavior.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
alex jones
And you're not going to believe what the judge is doing publicly.
She's not even hiding it.
And I believe it's criminal.
I believe it's criminal.
But, again, this county's run by Soros, so they're allowed to commit crimes.
We can't even be good people.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
dan friesen
Yeah, so the judge is committing crimes.
jordan holmes
In a larger sense, he did speak a real truth, which is that we can't even be good people.
unidentified
Hmm.
dan friesen
Well, can.
You've got to parse that.
He is unable to be a good person.
jordan holmes
So I said can't.
dan friesen
But what he's arguing is he's not being allowed to be a good person.
jordan holmes
But if you remove the parts where he's lying, then he's telling the truth.
dan friesen
That's a fair point.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
So Alex really wants to get into this DeSantis kicking out this state attorney story.
And so he even needs to bring in a buddy to ride sidecar with him.
alex jones
The great work DeSantis is doing, literally firing these deep state Soros operatives that violate...
They're oaths of office.
And having the state police go into their offices, make sure they don't destroy any evidence of what they've been up to.
Yeah, he's got them under investigation.
DeSantis just gets better and better.
Because he's actually going after the deep state.
Trump never really did that.
But DeSantis is doing it.
Trump fought the deep state.
Trump did a lot of things executively, but never actually took Soros on head on.
So we've got a special guest, Pastor Rodney Howard Brown, popping in at the bottom of the hour.
The prosecutor is the one that had him arrested.
Now he's been fired by the governor.
Rodney Howard Brown is just going to pop in for a segment or so.
dan friesen
Yes, in March 2020, Rodney Howard Brown defied public health guidance and held church services when large public gatherings were restricted.
He was charged with some things like unlawful assembly, but ultimately those charges were dropped and he didn't really face any consequences.
Very oppressed, this guy.
How fun.
He's going to come in and talk shit with Alex.
unidentified
It's a nightmare.
jordan holmes
You know, Trump...
It has given them a taste of fascism, and based on Alex's current comments about an elected official absolutely wrecking any and all power structures, I think they want more fascism.
dan friesen
Yeah, you could get some of those indications.
I think there's clues.
unidentified
Yeah, I think that's what I'm picking up on here.
dan friesen
So Alex has lost in the compensatory phase of the trial a little over $4 million.
And so here, he touches on that a little bit.
alex jones
Let me do this now.
Because a lot of people are tuning in to the show wanting to get my response to the $4.1 million judgment by an Austin jury yesterday.
I shot a video last night.
That's at man.video where I lay out in about five minutes my stance on it and where I stand.
But I'll do that again.
For everybody that's tuned in live, because I know a lot of you are tuning in that are new viewers.
I'm going to get my view.
But there's last night's announcement, breaking exclusive.
Alex Jones responds to 4.2 million Sandy Hook verdict, 628,000 views.
If you want to go see it, it's a very important video.
jordan holmes
So important.
alex jones
But let me just briefly chronicle what's been happening in the last week and a half, now almost two weeks as of today, in this kangaroo court.
And how it's the model for the rest of the country and the world, and how George Soros and the operatives are literally coordinating and running this.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
That's quite a scoop.
jordan holmes
I would not have said that.
I wouldn't have said that.
dan friesen
Why not?
jordan holmes
That's just me.
And here's why I wouldn't have said it.
dan friesen
Because you're not fun?
jordan holmes
Right.
And it's not so much the jury now, or the judge.
It's more the sanctions that are coming.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I think you can mitigate those.
dan friesen
But also, you're really casting your bet on the other trials aren't going to happen if you're Alex.
Because some of this post-trial behavior, I could easily see it being introduced as like, look, this is the way that he behaves.
jordan holmes
How do you not?
I mean, in another punitive hearing, how do you not go, okay, we did one punitive hearing, and this was supposed to get him to stop doing this.
So here's what he said.
Hours later!
dan friesen
He decided that he was going to imply that he will not be kept away from the Sandy Hook families and then accuse the judge of criminal behavior.
jordan holmes
Cunitive damages doesn't even begin to describe what needs happening.
dan friesen
So, the media?
In on it.
The judge?
In on it.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Soros operatives?
Unnamed.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But definitely in on it.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
The corporate media that's in the courtroom are all coordinating.
dan friesen
Who?
alex jones
The judge is coordinating with the media.
The judge is altering the record of the trial, in my view, and I'll explain that in a moment.
jordan holmes
By recording it.
alex jones
She didn't just say I'm guilty and tell the jury more than 20 times I'm guilty and that they had to find me guilty.
You're not allowed to find him innocent.
I found him guilty, she said.
She barred us.
She barred us from being able to respond in the punitive damages phase.
To our net worth.
Now, we turned over to them an accurate net worth after she defaulted us.
I spent days up here with lawyers.
They got all the numbers.
Looked at my personal money, everything.
Gave them a complete list under court order.
jordan holmes
Did they?
alex jones
And I knew it was all rigged, but I wanted to show the world this.
And then, instead, they barred us from argument or calling any witnesses.
We can only cross-examine their expert.
Who literally is some dandruff-covered guy that looks like he has a gray wig on, who stumbles around.
He has a name like Thurston Howell VII or something.
I'm not joking.
He has like five names.
Wilford Snibblesnabble of the Gribble Pibble.
He was great.
I've got to find his name in the news.
dan friesen
Yep, that is my new alias.
unidentified
Wilford Snibblesnabble of the Gribble Pibble.
jordan holmes
Can't argue with that.
That's a good one.
dan friesen
His name is Bernard Pettigill.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's the Pettigill part that makes you just think of it.
It sounds like that name is missing an Esquire after it, though.
dan friesen
Yeah, I guess.
jordan holmes
You know what I'm saying?
You can hear it.
Yeah, you can hear it.
dan friesen
But isn't Esquire for lawyers?
jordan holmes
Something like that, but you know what it is.
dan friesen
Shouldn't Raynall be the Raynall Esquire?
jordan holmes
Yeah, but he wouldn't be an Esquire.
dan friesen
Of the Gribble Pibble.
unidentified
Of the great Gribble Pibble family.
jordan holmes
Oh, do you mean the Brooklyn Gribble Pibbles?
unidentified
I am Dan Snibble Pibble of the Gribble Pibble.
dan friesen
Snibble Snabble.
Goddamn.
That's good.
unidentified
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Good stuff.
jordan holmes
It's no Stratford upon Avon.
It's not like that.
dan friesen
And it also distracts you from the nonsense that he was saying earlier in that clip where he's talking about the judge falsifying the record or whatever.
And so I was kind of interested to hear what that meant.
And here's what he was talking about.
alex jones
I was here yesterday running around the office trying to watch the verdict.
And she was killing the stream every five minutes or so because she said she would live stream it, but we kicked their butts so bad, even though we had our hands tied behind our backs, that she killed the stream during most of my testimony so that law and crime can only put out edited clips of me where I go, oh, that's a Perry Mason moment, except it's not.
unidentified
Those...
alex jones
Text messages all come from me on my phone.
I gave it to all the lawyers as I testified.
And now you have it proving I told you the damn truth.
And you guys just act like you didn't have it.
And they go, oh, we've got his phone!
We've got his phone!
What was given to him?
dan friesen
The most generous explanation for this is that Alex is an idiot and doesn't understand that Law& Crimes YouTube channel posted the long-form videos of the trial and also published shorter snippets of particularly exciting moments like when his text messages were revealed.
Alex doesn't deserve a generous interpretation, and the reality here is that he's just lying to make his audience think that the judge in this case shut down the feed and only allowed these shorter clips to go out, which is nonsense.
It's likely too late for it to matter, but I have to assume that this could constitute some kind of contempt of court type thing.
He's literally accusing the judge of crimes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, they still have to work out the exact sanctions for both Raynal and Alex.
Like, that is still in the air.
It's not like they wrote down a number and they handed it to Alex and they were like, okay, you can keep being a piece of shit, but you're also going to owe us this.
They're still doing that math.
dan friesen
I both watched a fair amount of the feed and was there in person, and I can say with quite a bit of confidence.
That Alex was not kicking their ass so bad, even with his hands tied behind his back, that they would need to shut down the feed.
Also, the law and crime feed is not the same thing as the court's feed, which Alex is intentionally confusing.
And that's fun, I guess.
It's meaningless.
But he does stress this quite a bit.
alex jones
So here's what I believe is illegal.
If the judge is going to let something be televised, televise it.
Real courts, if they do it, have a pool camera.
Or two cameras that aim at whoever's speaking and when the judge speaks.
Instead, there's just dozens of cameras, but they're all pet media, and they all are on the same script and all put the same clips out, basically.
And the judge sits there while she controls the YouTube stream, turning it on and turning it off and turning it on and turning it off.
She controls the stream.
She just kills the stream.
She's up there like a DJ running it.
So either you're going to show people the trial...
Or don't, but I think it's illegal to claim something's televised and then only let out certain parts of the trial, but when something you don't like happens, you kill the stream and then turn it back on to the other side speaking.
And then Bankston, their main lawyer, gets up, the plaintiff's lawyer, the ambulance chaser, and goes, listen, judge, I want you to not kill the stream during this part because I'm going to expose that law enforcement wants Jones' phone and he's going down and it's January 6th and all this stuff.
And none of that's even true.
She's like, okay, I'll keep it streaming.
But when my lawyer talks, she turns it off.
dan friesen
None of this happened.
jordan holmes
No, none of it.
Not even a little bit.
dan friesen
This is wild.
jordan holmes
Like, I mean, it is...
dan friesen
It's just a manufactured narrative of what happened.
jordan holmes
It is so convenient.
Shouldn't it be too convenient now for even his listeners that everything that proves he's innocent is unable to be found?
dan friesen
But it's not.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
They're not going to go and look and find the full six-hour videos on Law and Crime.
unidentified
It's just there.
jordan holmes
There's no way that you could...
I mean, even then...
unidentified
How do you think I pulled the clips for our last episode?
jordan holmes
Also, what judge...
Knows how to competently turn a stream on and off at will.
dan friesen
It's like Alex's cough button.
She's got a little foot pedal.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, I mean, his lawyer couldn't even figure out how to use a fucking eighth grade projector.
dan friesen
No, I think we talked, or I think I have notes about this later to bring up, but we were there in the courtroom, and the law and crime, their camera person was sitting next to us.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Through a lot of the time during the trial.
And they would be fixing things sometimes.
So there was like...
Problems that they had with their stream and their video.
And there was at least one occasion where I remember that they came in late.
And so there was...
That is a separate entire feed from the Zoom.
It's from the court.
jordan holmes
There was literally a moment where the battery got down to 3% because...
Somebody had jostled their cord and it had popped out.
Like, you don't know.
dan friesen
This is just a boring defense for Alex, but I think it's what he wants to go full on with it.
I suppose.
But it is what you're talking about.
It is that dynamic of appealing to the unknown.
It's like, there's this other stuff somewhere that proves that I'm innocent, but you can never find it.
jordan holmes
You'll never be able to find it, and it's not because it doesn't exist.
It's because this evil judge, she's so evil.
dan friesen
Alex, you know, certainly pissed off about being jammed up in this trial, but he's got to get to the news.
alex jones
I promise you I'm going to get into world news for the rest of this broadcast.
We've got so many special guests in studio, but I've got to finish up because they just gave me transcripts and tweets of what's going on down at the kangaroo courthouse there where I'm being railroaded in the second phase of the damages.
dan friesen
I guess we're not getting to the news.
I guess we're going to do this for longer.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, at least it's kind of fun.
alex jones
I told you the guy had a name like Thurston Howell III, but they didn't say his two middle names.
He said it on the stand because I was there this morning.
It's Bernard, Bernard Pettigill.
And he goes like, Bernard Sninwopolis Gubertamondius.
Petty Gillison.
I mean, I couldn't believe when he said his name.
dan friesen
Wilford Snibblesnabble of the Gribble Pibble.
jordan holmes
Did he say Guter Timondius?
dan friesen
No.
You can go and find him being sworn in.
He says his name is Bernard Francis Petty Gill, Jr.
jordan holmes
I don't remember Gutenemannus.
dan friesen
We're the first slipper snabble of the Gribble Pibble.
jordan holmes
Not even Ozymandamus.
No, none of it.
dan friesen
I can't stop saying that.
It's so good.
jordan holmes
Gribble Pibble?
dan friesen
Yep.
So this is quite a conspiracy that Alex has got cooking here.
There are just...
I mean, it's sprawling.
jordan holmes
Are there a lot of players in the game now?
dan friesen
So many.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
alex jones
The judge told all the news cameras.
I've authorized all of you to be here.
But no one else is allowed to film, and if you do, I'll have you arrested.
And stuff like that.
She's on tape.
And then whenever we speak, she cuts us off on YouTube, and then lets them speak.
So they can then have the news crews edit down, and they're coordinating because they put out different camera shots, but down to the same sections.
So somebody picks the time, they've got these directors back there talking to all the cameras, and then they put out what they want.
Here's an example.
Everybody's telling me about it.
On YouTube, you'll have 10 to 1 comments for me.
And all of a sudden they all get pushed down or deleted and a bunch of hateful comments get put to the top.
They'll have like five upvotes.
One with a thousand upvotes is removed or pushed to the bottom.
dan friesen
Let's take a step back and try to forget that we're listening to a celebrity racist demagogue here and really listen to what they're saying.
If anyone you knew was talking like this about how everyone was out to get them, you'd rightly understand that they aren't well.
But for Alex, it's just kind of his shtick.
He sounds like someone raving about black helicopters because he's literally the same person who was raving about black helicopters 20 years ago.
He's delusional, and he's found enough people to enable and reinforce his delusions that he's been able to make it profitable and insulate himself from any consequences of his actions.
But this just sounds dumb.
Alex is getting on his show to complain about how unfairly he's being treated, which is evidenced by a completely inaccurate description of how the live streams are broadcast.
Then, he's heard from other people that there's a conspiracy about silencing supportive YouTube comments, which is just pathetic.
Alex isn't even able to make this claim.
He has to say that other people have told him this is happening.
He has literally no idea if this is real at all, but it feeds into his victimhood status, so not only is it real, it's also probably way worse than it seems, and it's being directed by the judge in coordination with Soros.
On the live streams, commenting was disabled, for obvious reasons.
As far as the law and crime videos are concerned, you can go to those and still see a ton of pro-Alex comments, mostly in the live chat.
It's silly to think that YouTube comments mean anything.
A lot of them are bots, many of them are people just trolling, and there are plenty that just don't even make sense.
It's really sad to see a 48-year-old adult whining on his show about how he's heard that there aren't enough positive comments about him on some YouTube video, so it must be a censorship conspiracy issue.
It's nonsense.
It's just pathetic.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I really thought we were done with allowing people to bitch about YouTube comments.
I just thought that was done.
dan friesen
I'm done with allowing it to mean anything.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
I mean, but it was...
dan friesen
It speaks volumes about you if you're complaining about it.
jordan holmes
It's been in movies from like 2015 where it's like, hey...
Don't read the comments on the YouTube show.
Everybody just knows that it's a horrible place.
dan friesen
Right.
I think that there is still something of a conversation in terms of abusive and directed abuse and harassment and stuff.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
That does still exist with comments and what have you.
Of course.
Trying to argue.
It just goes back to the shadowban-y stuff.
It's like, oh, my tweets aren't getting enough likes.
I must be hidden by the...
I must be shadowban-y.
I must be too dangerous to the establishment or whatever.
And this is just that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the concept of maybe I'm uninteresting is just anathema to so many people.
dan friesen
Because he's got Wilford Snibble Snabble against him.
How could he be boring?
So anyway, yeah, the judge...
This is a cover-up, man.
jordan holmes
A cover-up?
dan friesen
Yeah, and she's deeply involved.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
So the judge is in live time manipulating what the world can see so they can edit it to make me look bad.
So I'm asking all the listeners.
They don't want you to look at the last week and a half of the trial.
They don't want you, but there's copies all over the internet.
People are now figuring out she's doing this without us even ever asking.
And now everybody's going and finding it and going and finding what they weren't supposed to have.
Because there were several other groups they're streaming that didn't completely coordinate, so copies are out there.
dan friesen
If anybody else was recording, they were committing a crime.
And I don't think so.
I mean, based on my experience of being there in the courtroom, I don't think that that was happening.
For a couple reasons.
There were only a few actual cameras, and you had people like the law and crime folks.
You had the HBO documentary.
Right.
You also had a fair amount of security, like bailiffs and sheriff's officers or whatever, court officers.
And if someone was recording and they didn't have permission, that would have been shut down.
jordan holmes
Yeah, almost instantly.
I couldn't stop myself from laughing a couple of times and I got a visit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Looking around the courtroom, it wasn't packed.
There weren't a bunch of people there.
I don't think there were people who were bootlegging the trial.
jordan holmes
I don't think...
Part of it is just...
It really wouldn't have made sense to fit more cameras in there.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
It would have been pointless.
dan friesen
It wasn't a big courtroom.
jordan holmes
It wasn't that big, and there weren't that many people there.
And it's redundant.
Yeah, and I think they knew it would be interesting and people would watch it.
I don't think they thought it would be that big of a deal.
dan friesen
Well, the court's Zoom was airing the entire thing.
The Law and Crime had a slightly better camera, and they were streaming most of it with some limitations of just their equipment.
mark bankston
Whatever was going on.
jordan holmes
Whatever they were doing.
dan friesen
And then the HBO camera, I think there were maybe two, were to get better shots for the documentary.
I don't know.
Anyway, I think Alex should have to face the judge and answer for this behavior on air.
Basically creating a large target on her by fabricating a conspiracy that the video in the courtroom was being manipulated, and this is just completely unacceptable behavior.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if I was in the middle of being sued and about to get a huge judgment for defaming somebody, I would not, in the same time period, want to sick people on the judge of that case.
That's just me.
dan friesen
But that's kind of what he did when Roger Stone was on trial.
Yep.
I don't know.
It seems like just behavior that he can't stop himself from doing.
jordan holmes
I mean, he's already put a million dollar bounty on her.
dan friesen
Well, no, that was the lawyer in Connecticut.
But yeah, hey, it's not only the judge.
It's also the lawyers.
Everyone's against Alex.
alex jones
And people are recording it while it's streamed now, but noticing they've gotten desperate.
So now she's cutting it off up to three or four times every 10 minutes.
jordan holmes
What?
When?
Why?
alex jones
I guess she gets a signal because there's...
They're actually signaling each other.
I mean, hell, their head lawyer gets up and says, now don't cut the feed for the next 10 minutes, okay?
And then he goes up and says, Jones perjured himself, you know, the Justice Department, everything else, we got his whole phone, which they don't, all this stuff.
And then it's like, okay, Your Honor, and she's like, cuts the feed.
This is total coordination.
dan friesen
I do, I just, I don't think that this is okay.
This is a pretty serious accusation that Alex is making, all things considered.
I mean, I know that ultimately, most right-thinking people know that he's full of shit.
This doesn't mean anything.
jordan holmes
He lives in topsy-turvy world.
dan friesen
Right, but there are real dangers that you could be putting people in by making accusations like this.
And you just can't...
Do this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You can't accuse people of criminal behavior and criminal coordination between a judge and lawyers.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Is it defamation?
dan friesen
It's at least just...
jordan holmes
Monsters come out of Topsy-Turvy World to attack people.
You know?
Alex lives in Topsy-Turvy World, so we look at him and we're like, hey, listen, you sound like an absolute nutjob.
But he's sending people, and he's putting targets on people that are being sent.
That's crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's not okay.
jordan holmes
It's not okay.
dan friesen
No, this behavior is, there has to be some sort of a check on it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But look, hey, Alex has got to get to the news.
And honestly, this case is meant to distract him from this large work that is so important that he needs to do.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
They're trying to distract me from my work, but they're not going to distract me from my work.
And that's why I'm not down there at the second phase of the trial today.
It's because no matter what the globalists do, while I'm still breathing air, or while I'm not locked up in a prison, I am going to be fighting these people.
It's that simple.
But I can't stand the fight without you.
So they want me to talk about their attacks.
They want me to get diverted into defending myself.
But you understand, we're going to stay in the attack.
And we're not going to let them distract us.
So, what is it that they're trying to distract us from?
Well, there's this stack.
jordan holmes
It's the stackies.
It all comes back to the stackies.
alex jones
they're trying to distract us with.
They're trying to distract us from knowing about what I'm about to cover.
And so...
I'll be back today in the fourth hour, and I'm going to co-host with Robert Barnes.
And then I'll be back today co-hosting some in the war room because I'm not going to let them silence us.
And tomorrow, I'm going to be here most of the day, even though my five-year-old daughter is begging me to take her fishing.
She has no future if I don't do this, so I'll be here.
And I'm not a martyr.
I'm not a victim.
I'm saying that I'm going to work harder because they're trying to silence us because I know it's our mission.
And when I get tired and think it must be somebody else's job to do this, when I see it bearing fruit of what we've done together, I realize I've got to fight now harder than I've ever had.
So I'll cover this more in the fourth hour today after Mike Adams takes over with some special guests and things he's got lined up that are huge.
People are really excited.
Let me just hit these headlines so you know what's coming up.
These all tie together.
dan friesen
I hate that every time the globalists are really acting up and duty calls, The real thing that ends up happening is that Alex's daughter doesn't get to do something fun.
jordan holmes
How many times has he not taken her fishing?
So many times.
Don't tell me about how you need to take your daughter fishing when you haven't.
That's sad for me.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a theme of like...
I gotta fight these globalists.
I was gonna take my daughter fishing.
unidentified
I mean, yeah.
dan friesen
You just imagine her sitting at home with a fishing pole.
jordan holmes
He said he was gonna come today.
Yeah, absolutely.
No, this is a willful...
Re-contextualizing your neglectful parenting as...
dan friesen
Here's the good news.
jordan holmes
What's the good news?
dan friesen
That plan didn't exist to begin with.
There was no fishing trip that's getting canceled.
unidentified
That is true.
jordan holmes
It's all just...
dan friesen
It's dramatization.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex is going to do a fun run of headlines.
And so I decided...
He's like, these are all connected.
And this is what the globalists are trying to stop us from.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
So we're going to go on this run with him and see what happens.
jordan holmes
Let's go.
dan friesen
So here's the first headline.
alex jones
These all tie together.
Swedish scientist advocates eating humans to combat climate change.
It's all over the news.
Told you that was coming.
jordan holmes
Swedes eat people.
dan friesen
So this is a headline from 2019, which Alex doesn't know because his team just googled cannibalism and printed out everything they could find that seems like it could work.
jordan holmes
Ouch.
dan friesen
Alex does no prep for this show, so he's cold reading headlines and just making up context for them, and in this case he's pretending that it's a current story.
This was about Magnus Söderland, who went on Swedish TV and was interviewed about some research he was doing into social taboos about food sources.
Basically, human meat was used as an extreme example of something that pretty much everyone considered past the line, but where exactly was the line?
Lab-grown beef?
Artificial meat?
alex jones
Insects?
dan friesen
Where do people feel like, eh, I don't know.
He doesn't want people to eat people, and that wasn't something he was advocating at all.
Magnus very astutely deduced that his words had, quote, been hijacked by people who don't believe that global warming and other climate issues should be taken seriously, and one of those people was a writer for the Epoch Times who wrote a headline that Alex is now reading on air.
This is a bullshit story with no connection to reality that was published three years ago.
So this string of headlines is off to a very strong start.
jordan holmes
So you're saying that the Swedes have not started eating each other?
dan friesen
Not to my knowledge.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
All right.
Look, I don't have anybody on the ground giving me updates.
jordan holmes
Where's Sonia at?
dan friesen
Sonia checked in.
jordan holmes
She's been eaten!
dan friesen
Oh no.
jordan holmes
Oh no!
dan friesen
So here's the next headline.
alex jones
Video transcript.
Biden transport secretary again touts...
Expensive electric vehicles, a solution for high gas prices.
dan friesen
So yeah, Pete Buttigieg said that maybe electric cars, maybe we could get some subsidies for people to be able to afford electric cars.
jordan holmes
And that is related to eating people how?
dan friesen
Well, because he said that this Swedish person said that you should eat people to help with climate change, which isn't really true.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So, yeah, maybe the climate change aspect of it is...
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
I appreciate you trying to track the connection.
jordan holmes
I'm doing my best, because he said that they're specifically all connected, and all I have right now is Swedes eat people and drive electric cars.
dan friesen
Well, let's see if we can find some more connective tissue.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Hippocrute Trudeau caught masks for flying on a private jet, but he says you shouldn't be able to have air conditioning for a car.
dan friesen
I thought it was Obama who didn't want people to have air conditioner or a car, which isn't true to begin with, but it's something that Alex repeats a lot.
But I guess it's now Trudeau.
jordan holmes
He just tossed it on there.
dan friesen
I'm starting to suspect that maybe Alex really is just cold reading headlines and hasn't seen any of these things at all, but he's just pretending they're connected because we have a three-year-old article about cannibalism, comments that Pete Buttigieg made about electric cars, and a picture of Trudeau not wearing a mask.
This can't be the super important work the globalists want to distract Alex from because this is ridiculous.
jordan holmes
You know, I wrote down earlier whenever he was saying like, oh, this is all a distraction from my work and I won't allow it.
And it's like, if that is true, just on its face, shouldn't the news currently be gargantuan?
You know, like, during the trial.
Now, maybe you could even consider, like, Trump's raid being gargantuan news.
But that was after the trial.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
So during the trial, shouldn't there have been a nonstop barrage of, like, holy shit, you know, there's fires going up inside of your home right now, you know?
dan friesen
Because then Alex wouldn't be able to cover it.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That would justify the distraction era.
But I feel like the news was mainly, like...
We're going to try and lower gases, taxes.
dan friesen
No, it's that Sweden has given the green light on eating people.
But Alex doesn't know that, and he's presenting it as current.
jordan holmes
So I guess we had to sue Alex Jones to make sure that Swedes could eat people.
dan friesen
And let me say this real quick.
I know what the Swedes do with meatballs.
If that's the precedent of how they're going to serve people, I'm out.
I'm out, too.
No, thank you.
jordan holmes
I'm just saying that Scandinavian food is not bad food, but there are way better foods.
dan friesen
You're not going to trick me to eat people with lingonberry.
I can tell you that right now.
jordan holmes
I won't even eat their fish, let alone their people.
unidentified
Boo.
dan friesen
So, here's the next headline.
alex jones
The climate cult is eager to take advantage of Europe's energy crisis.
dan friesen
And they're now announcing in Spain and Germany they're going to control remotely, as we told you decades they would, with the smart meters, what temperature you can set your house to, no lower than 80. So this is just an op-ed on Zero Hedge that's completely meaningless as proof of anything and doesn't even include any bits about remotely controlling people's thermostats.
That's stuff that Alex is writing his own story about, but it's a very real issue surrounding energy rationing proposals in countries that could be more directly affected by Russia's ability to control the flow of oil and natural gas.
It's less a question of remotely controlling smart meter thermostats and more city councils being asked to do everything they can to conserve energy.
After this is a string of headlines about reducing car ownership, so I guess that a bunch of these headlines could be said to be connected, but I'm struggling to make the larger meaningful connection, and the cannibalism is just flashy and fun.
I think that I understand what Alex wants the connection to be, but it's pretty much just in his head.
He's basically laying out the climate change advocates.
It's an elaborate plot to destroy society through making people unable to have energy resources, which will make them unable to get any food, so I guess the media is trying to prepare people for the idea of eating other humans.
Mind you, this is entirely different than Alex's big rant about how he was willing to barbecue his neighbors to feed his children.
When Alex discusses cannibalism, that's actually genius, and he's making a larger point, whereas when people he doesn't like do it, it's proof of an insidious plan to depopulate the planet.
This list of headlines is legitimately depressing, and he does not need a lawsuit to distract him from doing his job.
He's doing fine on his own, and his job is completely meaningless.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't know.
You just don't get to complain about cannibalism if you have already made the plan in your mind to murder your neighbors and feed them to your kids.
dan friesen
Yeah, and high profile, publicly.
jordan holmes
Totally.
Said it out loud.
You're on the record as that as being an acceptable strategy when it comes to that.
So I feel like you shouldn't be able to talk shit.
dan friesen
I know.
It was a pretty, like...
Graphic fantasy.
jordan holmes
It was very graphic.
It was like his neighbor accidentally hit his window with a baseball that day.
dan friesen
So we have a couple more headlines, even though I had lost my patience with this.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
But yeah, there's some that are actually kind of interesting.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Australia's Great Barrier Reef defies climate doomsayers with record coral comeback.
The truth is coral reefs grow, they die, they come back, they die, they come back.
dan friesen
So this is the headline that he's reading off Breitbart, but it's kind of a dishonest framing of the story.
While it is true that parts of the Great Barrier Reef are seeing considerable healing, that's not true of the reef as a whole.
The northern area of the reef saw gains in hard coral cover, but the southern section actually went down.
This is good news, but it's part of a larger picture.
One of the main concerns about the reef is hard coral cover, but another equally important aspect is bleaching.
Bleaching is the result of a temperature or weather anomaly that leads to the coral expelling the algae that give it its color, resulting in the coral becoming white.
It's not dead at that point, but it's at a significantly greater risk.
And importantly, reefs are complicated systems that are capable of healing, so if there is some bleaching, the coral can become home to algae again and come back to what you'd call a vibrant life.
The concern among scientists is that weather events that cause large-scale bleaching have been increasing in frequency.
There have been four mass bleaching events in the past seven years, and experts don't know how resilient the reefs are to...
heightening pressure.
It's an open question and it's frightening the implications.
Another aspect that is of concern is mentioned in a Reuters story about this.
Quote, Yeah,
jordan holmes
we were at a museum and a whole area in San Francisco a few years back.
And they had this massive section of the place.
Now, it used to be something different, and now it was just all devoted to the coral reef and the way that coral was dying.
And everything was so fucking sad.
Because their goal was like...
You used to walk in here and see some cool stuff and then be like, wow, that was fun.
Now you're going to be like, I'm going to go fight Australians to save the coral reef.
That's how you walk out of there.
And it is a tragic, tragic, tragic situation.
dan friesen
True.
And some of the positive news that ends up coming out and you hear about the Great Barrier Reef is the result of very aggressive conservation efforts.
Yeah, yeah.
And so when you're like, oh, why isn't it dying so fast?
Because people are taking it very seriously.
jordan holmes
As hard as they possibly can with everything they've got all the time.
dan friesen
You try to pick up a piece of coral and they will snipe you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and I don't even want you reporting good news about it because then people are going to be like, oh, things are getting better.
No!
You're just not reporting enough news about how it's dying every single day.
dan friesen
I think that balance is tough to strike.
jordan holmes
It is a little bit difficult.
dan friesen
So we got another headline.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This one's fun.
alex jones
Major new findings.
They're reanimating not just dead spiders, but now pigs.
Frankenstein is real.
From NBC News.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
Get the torches.
jordan holmes
Does he think that the soul is included with the reanimation?
dan friesen
I don't know.
He doesn't expound on this at all.
jordan holmes
Oh, I want more.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, I have some news for you.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
No one's reanimating spiders.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
dan friesen
Alex probably just saw a headline about research that was done at Rice University where they found that they could use dead spiders as a way of gripping things.
Essentially, it has to do with how spider legs bend and how all you really need to do to manipulate them is apply a hydraulic pressure inside the spider's abdomen.
The researchers used a needle to puff air into them and found that they were able to expand and retract.
Personally, I think this is a little fucked up, but I don't know how much of a high horse any of us has to be about like, oh, you gotta respect the sanctity of dead spiders.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm not sure.
dan friesen
It's weird, but it's pretty interesting.
jordan holmes
If I stepped on it a few days ago, I can't be mad if somebody's like, look, I can make its legs work.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I'm not gonna be mad.
dan friesen
If you watch the video with the researchers, too, one of the things they bring up that's like, ah, it's kind of tough to argue with, is that it is like...
Biodegradable material.
Sure.
It's something that you...
Right!
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
You end up in a strange position, though, if you're breeding spiders in order to kill them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, what are we talking about?
dan friesen
I hope that that would not be the path things go.
Right.
Anyway, that's not the implication that Alex is taking.
He thinks they're reanimating him.
jordan holmes
See, that's the issue.
dan friesen
As for the pig thing, Alex just skimmed a headline about this, but it's a little closer to reanimation.
It's just not that it's a pig getting reanimated.
It's a cellular thing.
This has some considerable philosophical implications and could stand to revolutionize processes used in organ donation, but it's not Frankenstein, or at least not yet.
I do find myself unnerved slightly by this portion of an NBC News article about this.
The pigs treated with organics startled researchers.
During experimentation, the dead pigs' heads and necks moved under their own power.
The animals remained under heavy anesthesia.
The researchers do view the neck jerk as an indication that muscle function was restored after death.
If you're someone who believes that all science fiction is secretly real, I can see how you might respond to this like Alex does.
It's silly, but I get it.
Yeah.
unidentified
Anyway, I'm still having trouble with the supposed connection of all these stories.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
allegedly about reanimation aren't connected in any meaningful way.
At this point, I was so bored of this list of headlines and I was getting, it's getting really redundant so I decided it was time to move on from this fun run.
Yeah.
unidentified
But that story about the pigs That is something I wish someone who is like Alex, but not Alex, and maybe a little bit more in touch with reality, could have a take on, because I think it's a little bit, like, your reaction is, there is a place for that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
They are able to restore muscle.
jordan holmes
I think what's interesting to me about this is the idea of consciousness, you know, like, okay, you're worried about Frankenstein and all that stuff.
But are you telling me that the consciousness returns with its previous memories?
Of course not.
Otherwise, what you're saying...
dan friesen
Do spiders have a meaningful consciousness?
jordan holmes
No, but what I'm thinking is if you're saying that reanimation is possible, then when I die, right, I'll die, my consciousness will end, and then suddenly I will theoretically awaken years later in the same or a different body.
Like, that's not how it works.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
So you don't get it.
There's no such thing as a soul, is what I'm trying to say.
dan friesen
That's fine.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's not even close to anything that is implied by these.
jordan holmes
Right.
No, that's the only thing I care about.
When you talk about pigs coming back to life, I'm like, I'm worried their souls aren't going to be okay.
dan friesen
Well, one of the things that comes up in articles about this is the sort of philosophical implications in terms of what do we categorize as death.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because if someone has a heart attack and their heart stops, which is your heart's a muscle, if they're able...
jordan holmes
Pump the heart.
dan friesen
Like, re-bring back muscle tissue.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Is that something that they would be able to do?
Right.
There are all kinds of questions that are raised by this, but, yeah, I mean, it's not like you've been dead for a week and now we can bring you back.
jordan holmes
I think, I mean, okay, so you're brain dead.
They can't bring back the function of your nerves so far as we're aware.
I mean, I don't know.
What, are you just going to jolt people with electricity, like in Frankenstein?
dan friesen
I mean, based on Alex's coverage, yeah.
jordan holmes
It does feel like that's the plan.
unidentified
If you're getting your news from Alex, then yes, I think that is.
dan friesen
Okay.
Yeah, I don't know.
I think from what I've actually read on this, I think we'll find out more when there's more research done.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Pretty early stages on a lot of this stuff.
Probably not Frankenstein.
jordan holmes
We're not at the Dolly the Sheep level of bringing people back to life.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
So you brought up the torn larynx earlier.
And I told you there was a fun update on this.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, it's healed?
dan friesen
Actually, there's a suspect in this.
alex jones
And all the studies show 5G causes major asthma and problems.
And I'm literally driving down Congress this morning after an hour in court to get to the show.
And I'm coughing the way I've never coughed in my life.
And I said, you know, the studies are 5G causes serious breathing problems.
And in coughing like this, it only happens when I'm in 5G areas.
They need those for self-driving cars.
And all of a sudden, a Ford self-driving car drives by, but it went in the turn lane.
We didn't get video of it.
A robot car drove by two minutes after I was telling my security guys that.
It's crazy.
dan friesen
Wow, robot cars make him cough.
jordan holmes
That reminds me, outside of the courthouse, I was making the jokes, and I didn't reference 5G to the woman.
dan friesen
To Rob Dew's tie-dye friend.
jordan holmes
Yes.
And now, here, she didn't even know.
That the 5G from her phone was causing Alex's cough in the courtroom.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, I just assume that courtroom is full of 5G.
jordan holmes
She was the one who had the biggest phone, though.
dan friesen
I noticed that on the stand, Alex didn't say 5G is making me cough.
He said he had a torn larynx because crazy flies on his show.
jordan holmes
I wonder why he said a torn larynx.
dan friesen
Anyway, he leaves and then he comes back in the fourth hour.
owen shroyer
Right.
dan friesen
After having gone to the courthouse.
jordan holmes
How did it go for?
dan friesen
Well, we have not figured out yet exactly what the judgment will be.
But the fourth hour starts and they just play special reports.
I'm like, what's going on here?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
We get 20 minutes in.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And Alex finally shows up.
jordan holmes
With Barnes in tow?
dan friesen
Well, we have an update on that.
But also, I should say in advance, Alex uses an R slur here.
And I just want to...
It's no good.
alex jones
All right, we ran some promos earlier, because for some reason Robert Barnes was here sitting around for like an hour waiting to go on air, and he didn't think he was supposed to be on air, so he left.
unidentified
But he's coming back, we're going to host.
alex jones
We're not going to be stopped.
unidentified
That's how this works.
alex jones
Not going to happen.
There's so little human communication now, though, like person to person.
And that's how the globalists are beating us, is people don't communicate with each other at the shopping mall, or the store, or church anywhere.
jordan holmes
You didn't even tell Barnes when he was going on!
alex jones
And that's why we're becoming mentally retarded.
That's really the fount of all of this.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he wasn't on air for 20 minutes because Barnes...
He thought he didn't need to go on air, so he left and he was trying to call Barnes and convince him to come back.
This is sad.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's crazy.
dan friesen
I can't go on without you, Barnes.
jordan holmes
That is absolute insanity.
dan friesen
People don't talk to each other enough.
jordan holmes
You can text in the courthouse.
I was on my phone the whole time.
dan friesen
It's true.
jordan holmes
You could have texted Barnes when he were going to be back to go on air.
dan friesen
But that would have activated the 5G and made him cough.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
He doesn't want to do that.
jordan holmes
No, he's right.
You're right.
Everybody's right.
dan friesen
So look, man.
Alex, you know, he said he was going to cover the news when he came back in the fourth hour.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But now he can't because Barnes isn't there.
alex jones
To watch humanity dying is so sad.
I mean, I'm dying too.
jordan holmes
So sad.
So sad.
alex jones
It's like Helter Skelter coming down fast, but on miles above you.
I mean, the globalists who are trying to bring down humanity.
dan friesen
Good save.
alex jones
So I had a lot to cover.
Prepared for hours for this, but, you know, we've been sitting around 20 minutes sitting there like, Get out of here.
jordan holmes
Come on now.
alex jones
Gorillas knocking our head up against the wall.
It won't matter soon.
The food's getting cut off.
Energy's getting cut off.
And I think it's actually a good thing.
We've already killed so many kids in the womb.
unidentified
Let's just start starving everybody to death right out of the oven.
alex jones
That is where we are.
All the wimps that have lived off the system.
All the frauds that have hidden behind it.
They're BS.
It's all over now, isn't it?
dan friesen
So I guess we all deserve to die because Barnes isn't there.
This is a mood swing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that happened quick.
That happened quick.
dan friesen
He's so mad that Barnes isn't there that he's like, let everyone starve in the streets.
jordan holmes
Somebody had abortions one time.
Let's all die.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Okay.
I feel like the judgment hasn't even come down.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
It's just Barnes.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex is in a bad mood.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I can tell.
alex jones
Because you're unconscious, you will die.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
alex jones
Because you're living in a dream, you will be destroyed.
jordan holmes
Aren't you going to die either way?
alex jones
We don't live in a dream here.
I don't live in a fantasy land.
I live in the real world.
That's painful to watch.
But nevertheless, everybody's got their own idea how things work, so you go ahead and do it your way and see what happens.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
I have a few video clips I want to play here.
And one of them is Dick Cheney, the war criminal, the torture master, the architect of 9-11, the globalist criminal.
The guy that sold America out for the Council on Foreign Relations and made jokes about it on national TV, how he was an enemy of America, has the nerve to get up and say people running against his daughter in her congressional race are the enemies, and that Trump is the enemy.
dan friesen
So one angle on Dick Cheney putting out a video saying Trump sucks is to lash out at Cheney and say, who are you to talk?
And I admit that's fair.
Another way to look at it is that Cheney is a fucking monster of historical scale, and even he realizes that Trump is a pile of shit.
I guess this is a glass half-full or half-empty thing, and yeah, have that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, you guys have fun.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Cool.
Enjoy!
dan friesen
So, Barnes shows up.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
He pulled the car around.
jordan holmes
No, don't show up, Barnes.
You're just going to get his bad mood on you.
dan friesen
No, actually, Alex's mood changes a bit.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
He perks up a little bit and makes me think that maybe Barnes is holding or something.
alex jones
But here's a little secret.
They don't want me to say it until everything's closed out, but under Texas law, their $4 million judgment is half.
And if they do a huge billion-dollar punitive, it's capped.
At one point, something million.
robert barnes
Yeah, it's $750,000.
Bankston was out there the other day.
The plaintiff's lawyer was out there spinning to the media how there was going to be a $50 million, $100 million kind of judgment coming in punitive damages.
Completely got wrong.
The media was recycling this as if it was the truth about Texas law.
alex jones
The AP says I'm worth $270 million.
This company has major liabilities.
I'm in the hole.
unidentified
I'm telling my wife, I've got to mow the yard.
alex jones
I'm telling her, we gotta fire the lawn staff!
dan friesen
Yeah, you're in tough times.
You have a yard staff.
jordan holmes
Wow, if you think that endears you to me and makes you a relatable character...
dan friesen
Mow the damn yard!
jordan holmes
Honey, we can't afford our gardener anymore!
dan friesen
No, he said garden staff.
jordan holmes
That's right, he said staff.
dan friesen
That implies more than one.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
Oh, God.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I mean, Alex, I think, you know, there's something about barns that just...
Brightens up a room.
And I think you can feel it.
Alex is so much happier now that Barnes is there.
He's got his buddy.
jordan holmes
There is something about Barnes' ability to, like, weather so much bullshit and kind of, like, spin it into, like, a little positive thing for Alex.
It is kind of a gift he has.
dan friesen
I think that he hypnotizes Alex with his, like, phrases.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, he says blank and blank.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
All the time.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
They're dipping and dodging.
They are.
jordan holmes
The Gribble Pibbles of anybody!
dan friesen
They are lying and lambasting.
It's almost always alliterative, and there's something about those speech patterns that I think Alex gets sucked into.
jordan holmes
It's not a bad thing to learn.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, look.
Most of this fourth hour is Barnes being full of shit and advertising.
It's really just trying to get money.
jordan holmes
Right.
alex jones
Well, here's my problem.
I could get major national food guys that are on Hannity and on Beck, and I'm not attacking them.
Maybe they're smarter than me.
Their food makes 60%, 70%.
Ours makes 30%, because it is the best, lowest price.
I have this weird neurotic thing to give our listeners the best deal.
unidentified
Right.
alex jones
So I would probably actually be rich like them if I did that.
dan friesen
Oh, man, that's wild.
Did you know that Alex gets his survival food buckets from My Patriot Supply?
jordan holmes
I did know that.
dan friesen
Because Glenn Beck sells his survival food through My Patriot Supply, too, and has for years.
I'm not sure if Hannity actually sells food buckets at this point, but he definitely did in the past.
Through my Patriot Supply.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
They also sponsor Dan Bongino and have sponsored Ben Shapiro and Rush Limbaugh and countless other right-wing shit-talkers who seem to include an insistence that you'll soon need emergency food because the government's going to go full dictatorship in their rhetoric, which is just a strange coincidence.
jordan holmes
It's a good strategy.
It really fucking works.
So what you're telling me is that even if I'm a huge Shapiro fan, or even if I'm a huge Glenn Beck fan, what I should do...
Is instead of getting my Patriot supply from them, I'll get a cheaper price from Alex, correct?
dan friesen
In theory, yeah, but I don't think that's true.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
I mean, I have in the past gone and looked at various deals that were offered.
I don't think that's true.
What I think is going on, if Alex is describing anything that's real, it's that he has such a bad negotiating position that he gets a lower cut than Ben Shapiro or Glenn Beck does.
That would be my hunch.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's more likely.
dan friesen
But yeah, it's all the same.
Probably not Jim Baker, though.
I think he probably has a different operation.
jordan holmes
I think he puts his own food in those buckets.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, he cooks it himself.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think so.
dan friesen
So Barnes has an interesting theory about what's coming in the punitive case here.
robert barnes
Two jurors wouldn't even join in the verdict, and for the punitive damages, they need unanimous jurors to even get any punitive.
alex jones
So what's your prediction this afternoon, or maybe it'll be longer, on punitive?
unidentified
I don't think that there's going to...
alex jones
I don't mean to kiss your ass, but you said before it happened yesterday, you said on air, you said I think it's below $5 million.
I think there's a very good chance that they can't even get punitive.
robert barnes
Yeah, well, it's a seven-figure verdict, and I don't think the punitive damages is going to come in anywhere near what they're talking about.
Again, it's purely show at theater and symbolic at this point because the cap is 1.5 between both claims.
dan friesen
Before Alex cut him off...
Barnes seemed to be going in a direction of, I don't think they're going to get any punitive damage.
They're very much downplaying what will come back.
And I think that's part of their, like...
That storyline that's still going on that they, like, pilled the jury and, like, they saw through it and everything.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And, I mean, it's going to be a little bit of a deflation when the 50 million number comes around.
jordan holmes
It's interesting to hear about the cap because the more I read about it, the less clear it becomes.
And from what Mark has told me is that part of the reason that this whole thing is going to get weird is that...
If they want to, there's something written within the caps of, like, if this is extraordinary bullshit beyond what anybody could reasonably expect, fuck the cap.
Let's go hard on this guy.
You know, like that kind of thing.
But that's going to lead to appeals and appeals and all that stuff.
So I'm not sure, but whatever anybody is reporting about the cap, it is up in the air still.
dan friesen
Yeah, there are a number of different dynamics that are at play.
Yeah, and as far as I know, about anything about the case and about how this law works, let's see what happens.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
dan friesen
I have no idea.
unidentified
Everything I've read is like, who the fuck wrote this law?
dan friesen
Yeah, and I think that Alex's entire bankruptcy situation overcomplicates it even more.
jordan holmes
Of course!
dan friesen
And could work to his disadvantage.
unidentified
Right!
dan friesen
And so we'll see.
Anyway, Barnes decides he's going to jump in with Alex on this whole, like, the judge is committing crimes thing.
jordan holmes
Great idea for a lawyer.
dan friesen
Yeah, I would say Barnes is being a shithead.
jordan holmes
He's going to be a media star.
alex jones
Again, I think it's criminal to have a judge say this is televised, and then she cuts the YouTube off when we speak, or lawyers speak she doesn't like, but only puts it on when they're having their people speak.
I mean, I think that's wrong.
robert barnes
I mean, all of it was scripted.
I mean, it was literally three movie cameras in there.
The only thing that went AWOL for them is they didn't get the ending that they wanted, and they didn't get the ending they wanted because even a liberal Democratic jury in Austin that was selected by these plaintiff's lawyers rejected the core aspects of their theory and thesis.
They got to see you live, and you were not the caricature that they tried to make you out to be.
And even though they played altered clips and altered edited videos, sometimes only five, seven seconds long, in fact, I think one was like two seconds long.
alex jones
The one about you was five seconds.
robert barnes
Five seconds.
Personally, if I was the plaintiff's lawyer, I would not have put me in the trial.
I would not have put a lot of things into the trial.
I would not have put the allegations and concerns about the judge into the trial.
dan friesen
You know who else didn't want to put Barnes into the trial?
Barnes!
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He was Alex's lawyer until shit got too hot and he quit or got fired, and now the Infor's corporate rep has testified under oath that they're exploring suing him for malpractice.
This is all just such horse shit.
Barnes is a weak loser, hiding on Alex's show, pretending to have an expert opinion, acting like the reality that he took an active part in this didn't happen.
How does he pretend to be a lawyer and then get on air and say that the case was scripted and the plaintiff's attorney selected the jury as if that wasn't a process that the defense was equally involved in?
jordan holmes
Poorly.
dan friesen
This is just low.
This is nonsense.
He should be like, I don't know, he should give up his own license for engaging in this shit.
jordan holmes
What he should have said is if I was the defense's lawyer, whenever they chose the jury, I wouldn't have said, will you talk to me?
Will you talk to me?
dan friesen
I don't think he even knows anything about that.
jordan holmes
No, I don't think he does either.
dan friesen
So we have one last clip here from Friday.
Alex's show, at least.
robert barnes
Yes.
dan friesen
And this is just nonsense.
alex jones
Here is the same lawyer that the worst part is I said, lock her up.
So at the end of the day, it's like, we're here because he criticized Hillary.
Here it is.
unidentified
Alex Jones representative saying, I know he was reckless.
owen shroyer
Alex knows he was reckless.
wesley todd ball
And then immediately going, but...
Megyn Kelly said it.
unidentified
But...
owen shroyer
The truthers said it.
unidentified
But...
owen shroyer
There were other websites.
robert barnes
But...
unidentified
Hillary Clinton.
wesley todd ball
Hell, at one point, I thought he was going to start yelling or chanting, lock her up.
jordan holmes
Wow, you guys are good at fake laughing.
alex jones
They're like...
Literally trying to sniff Hillary Clinton's butt when she's a politically dead item.
dan friesen
So that's the sort of clip where you have to ask yourself if Alex even thinks his audience is conscious.
It's clear what Wes is saying in that clip, that Alex is trying to dodge responsibility for his actions by saying that other people said things too, and then he punctuated his claim by joking that he was surprised that Alex didn't yell lock her up.
Alex is pretending that this is somehow a statement of support for Hillary, or an admission that this case is only happening because of Hillary, but it's pretty tough to get there from what the actual clip that is played says.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I can't, I mean, that is so impregnably obvious that this is the most gaslighting that you can do.
dan friesen
And that laughter is so forced.
This is two dudes lying their asses off about the situation they're in, trying desperately to put on a triumphant face for the audience.
I mean...
unidentified
In a certain sense...
jordan holmes
What has happened is that Alex Jones' money-making operation is now a savings account for the families.
So, the more money he makes, you know, it's going to them at the end of the day.
dan friesen
Unless he's getting real fancy with some bookkeeping.
jordan holmes
If he's getting real fancy with some bookkeeping, he's going to jail.
And I think that'd be better than having a savings account.
dan friesen
Well, it would certainly limit his ability to...
Bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So, the War Room comes on, and our boy, the Cuck Destroyer, a.k.a.
the Puppet, comes on.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And is a little bit dramatic.
A little bit, this is Mike Adams-level dramatic.
jordan holmes
Okay.
owen shroyer
Today is a major turning point in the political paradigm shift that has happened in the West.
That used to value individualism, freedom, prosperity, life, tradition, creation.
unidentified
What?
owen shroyer
And we now pivot into a dystopian Western world that values oppression, stopping the force of humanity, depopulation, Satanism, anti-life, anti-freedom, anti-truth.
The important turning point, the important page that we turn today is that now the American left, the liberal progressive Democrat left in America has now taken off the mask, they now know they're the bad guys, they have now accepted their role as the bad guys, and they are now embracing it wholly.
unidentified
Okay.
owen shroyer
And so that is the point we're at now in human history.
dan friesen
This is some serious baby shit.
In all the course of human history, every good or bad decision that's ever been made that's had geopolitical consequences, many by left-leaning politicians, has all been nothing compared to the day that Alex Jones learns that he has to pay people for defaming them.
Was it the end of the free world when Fox settled their defamation suit with Seth Rich's parents or when CNN settled with Nicholas Sandman?
I feel like it wasn't, probably because Alex's narcissism is so strong and such an important part of what makes this show and everything on Infowars work for the audience that Owen has to tap into it in order to exist in that environment.
This is really pathetic to act this way, and I have zero respect for Owen or his proclamations of us announcing that we're the bad guy, but if he wants to act this way, I have just one thing to say.
What's that?
Hey, yo!
That's a Scott Hall reference.
unidentified
You wouldn't have gotten that.
jordan holmes
I wouldn't have gotten it.
dan friesen
Scott Hall was the bad guy.
jordan holmes
Here's the thing about a podcast.
Know your audience, but it's just you and me here.
So you do know an audience.
dan friesen
Bad times don't last.
Bad guys do.
Anyway, in the tradition of Alex before him, Owen decides he's not hosting his show today either.
owen shroyer
Ladies and gentlemen, it is Friday, August 5th, 2022.
unidentified
This is the InfoWars War Room, brought to you by InfoWarsStore.com.
And I have to tell you, today's broadcast is going to be a great one.
owen shroyer
Now, I am live in studio right now, but Clay Clark is about to take over with so many great guests that it's going to be a great transmission.
dan friesen
So Clay Clark is this guy who does the Reawaken America tour, and they go and do these QAnon-adjacent speakers.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Alex was that one.
Jim Brewer.
Does anybody...
jordan holmes
Does anybody work there?
Does anybody work there?
Like, Barnes didn't even...
dan friesen
Hey, look, dude.
Dude, I understand what you're saying, but as far as Owen goes, I'm gonna give him a pass.
Because he keeps, like, having to host his own show and Alex's show.
jordan holmes
That's true.
That is true.
dan friesen
I have a little bit of sympathy for him, because they are making him do double duty quite a bit.
jordan holmes
He is working awful hard.
dan friesen
Yeah, but it is funny that on the day of Alex's punitive hearing, Alex just decides, I'm gonna go to the court, and then Owen is like, I...
jordan holmes
What are we going to do?
dan friesen
But he says that they have some big guests.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Clay Clark has some big guests.
jordan holmes
Absolutely huge.
dan friesen
I was like, I don't believe this.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And then here's how Clay Clark's part starts.
jordan holmes
Okay.
clay clark
Hey, well, General Flynn and Peter Navarro, welcome on to the Owen Schroyer and Alex Jones show.
mark bankston
Gentlemen, I appreciate you being here.
unidentified
What up, my brothers?
dan friesen
This is quite a duo to start things off for Clay's segment.
We all know Mike Flynn, but Peter Navarro isn't necessarily someone who's been on Alex's show in the past, or at least not to my knowledge.
He was an aide within the Trump administration, and overall he's basically a shithead.
He's currently facing contempt of Congress charges for refusing to comply with subpoenas in the investigation into January 6th.
jordan holmes
That's why I know his name.
dan friesen
He's also in hot water for conducting official government business on a private phone and then refusing to turn over records from them.
I mean, that is a bold statement to come out with.
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
We're welcoming General Flynn and Peter Navarro today.
dan friesen
And it gets better.
jordan holmes
To have a fucking crazy...
Easy talk.
Okay.
alex jones
It's better.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
clay clark
And we have Mike Lindell here.
jordan holmes
What?
mark bankston
What?
jordan holmes
What is happening?
mark bankston
He always says this is the best hat fire in America.
He's also passionate about exposing election fraud.
jordan holmes
Joining us.
clay clark
Mike, we know that you three are going to somehow be in that White House serving once President Trump gets back.
alex jones
What?
clay clark
Everybody in America needs to know right now as people are being discouraged and demoralized.
mark bankston
What would you like to say?
dan friesen
What kind of encouragement would you want to share with the listeners, Mike?
unidentified
Well, the same thing I did on the stage here at CPAC this morning.
Everybody, we've got all the tools you need to watch.
August 20th and 21st is called the Moment of Truth Summit.
It'll be live-streamed at Frank's Speech for 48 hours straight.
This will change our country forever.
alex jones
It's awesome.
dan friesen
So when the former president calls Mike Lindell the best ad buyer, what that translates to is he's a mark.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's a...
He'll fund anything.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I wouldn't want to be called the best ad buyer.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
That is a dumb thing to call someone.
dan friesen
You better ask some real serious questions if someone calls you that.
jordan holmes
Mike Lindell has sounded like...
He's starting to sound like a gravelier, older Jesse Ventura.
unidentified
Hmm.
dan friesen
Well, they are both from Minnesota, right?
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
Well, that makes sense.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that might be...
jordan holmes
He's got the speech pattern, yeah.
dan friesen
That comparison has been made by other people, I think, I've heard in the past.
Yeah, Mike Lindell.
Holy whoa.
So he just can't stop himself from doing these telethons.
jordan holmes
He just can't.
dan friesen
And they always go bad in the middle.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The last one where he was going to prove that China stole the election was a complete disaster, and this one is not going to go better.
I went to the website for this summit, and there's actually a really fitting image on the landing page.
It's Mike standing in front of Mount Rushmore waving an American flag.
Conveniently, he's obscuring Lincoln's face with that flag.
Something of a symbolic expression, intentional or not, of his and his movement's desire to rerun the Civil War and undo the whole emancipation thing.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
On day one of the summit, Lindell is going to have a premiere screening of the film Selection Code, which goes into how the election was stolen.
It was funded by Lindell and largely is about Tina Peters, who you may remember as the election fraud conspiracist who was arrested for allegedly facilitating a security breach in May 2021.
She was a county clerk in Mesa, Arizona, and in her capacity there, she enabled data from the election to be leaked and ultimately published on a QAnon-Telegram.
channel.
unidentified
She recently lost an election she was in running for secretary of state.
dan friesen
She lost in the GOP primary only getting 27% of the vote.
But of course she insists that she won and the election was stolen because why not?
Anyway, Lindell paid to make a movie about her, and he's airing it at his big summit.
Then...
On day two, we get something truly exciting that I might actually tune in for.
From 11 a.m. to 6.30 p.m., we have the trial of the machines.
Except on the site, they misspelled trial, so it actually says trail of the machines.
unidentified
Oh my god.
dan friesen
There's no explanation for this other than, quote, Mike Lindell puts the voting machines on trial.
Seven and a half hours.
It's gonna be madness.
jordan holmes
Are you telling me that the boy Pope has dug up the old Pope and we are putting the Pope on...
Yes.
Okay.
dan friesen
If you're Lindell's kid, and by the way, I don't know if he has kids, but if he does have kids, you gotta be pissed at him.
jordan holmes
You gotta run.
dan friesen
He seems to have an endless supply of money to waste, but you gotta know that eventually it's gonna run out, and before your very eyes, your inheritance has turned into a two-day vanity livestream with a seven-hour fake courtroom scene where your dad pretends to indict a laptop.
Grim stuff, man.
Anyway, this is quite a panel of guests Owen's fill-in has put together.
Real bunch of top-notch shitheads.
jordan holmes
That...
unidentified
that...
jordan holmes
That quote of, we're going to see all of you in the White House when Trump gets back in.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
Like, you know, in the normal corrupt world we've lived in for a long time, you know, your big donor, all of a sudden, after you get elected, holy cow, you're ambassador to, like, Switzerland.
What a great job!
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
You know, we paid you off for giving us all the money.
There's some corruption, but everybody lives their own life.
If it's Mike Lindell and Trump, he's like, you're Treasury Secretary now.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You're the best ad buyer I've ever seen.
dan friesen
Nobody can control the flow of money better than Lendell.
jordan holmes
I mean, what are we doing here?
Oh my god.
dan friesen
Sad times.
So Owen can't help himself.
He's got to pop in.
owen shroyer
I gotta tell you, I'm like a fly on the wall in here listening to my own show.
It's the most meta day in Infowars history.
You had Alex Jones covering Alex Jones' case live on the air, and now you have Owen Troyer listening to Owen Troyer's show.
dan friesen
It's not meta.
That's self-indulgent and narcissistic.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's not meta for Alex to complain about his own perceived victimhood on his show.
It's just any other day on Infowars.
I understand Owen wanting to dress this up as something other than vanity, but that's all it is.
Also, I was poking...
Hang around on that Reawaken America tour website because I was really bored during this interview, and I found that on September 24th in Tulsa, Oklahoma, they're putting on a comedy show with Jim Brewer that promises to be, quote, like a non-communist version of Saturday Night Live.
jordan holmes
Holy shit.
dan friesen
I know very little about SNL personally, but I don't think that the workers control the means of production there.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
From what I understand of the operations, I think SNL is a pro-fascist situation.
dan friesen
I feel like Lorne.
There's a character based around him with the whole thing.
Anyway, I don't know if it's communist in nature.
Doubt it.
So the selling point of that show is, quote, see Jim Brewer as Biden for a night Joe Biden won't remember.
I guess the joke is that Biden's forgetful, but the joke kind of works the other way, too.
Biden won't remember this because he'll never know about it.
He couldn't care less about some skits Jim Brewer's doing in front of a bunch of QAnon aunts and uncles.
But also, Jordan, you should try to get an opening spot.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, if there's a spot, man, I can still do five.
I can still do five.
Rattle it off.
No big deal.
dan friesen
I've seen Brewer stand up, and you could open for him.
jordan holmes
Oh.
I could close for him.
dan friesen
Yeah, you shouldn't know before.
That's setting the bar too high.
He can't follow that.
He just makes noises.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
dan friesen
But yeah, the flyer for this is fun because it has a picture of Jim Brewer in a gray wig, which I guess is his Biden.
jordan holmes
I am worried.
I'm worried for sweary carry because now we've got a new Biden in the mix.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
But this one's clearly a clone that's gone wrong.
dan friesen
And it's also a guy named Jim.
jordan holmes
Oh, see?
Everything's figured out.
All Jim Byruer.
dan friesen
So anyway, Owen pops in, and it's because there was an expectation that Alex is going to be on the war room to talk about the whole thing once the damages came down.
And unfortunately, Alex...
Will not be appearing on The War Room.
He had an appointment with three wise men, Johnny, Jack, and Jim.
jordan holmes
Not the larynx doctor?
dan friesen
No, the whiskey doctor.
My favorite.
He ain't gonna be in today.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
owen shroyer
We're not gonna be getting live comments from Alex at this time.
However, he is going to be issuing a response that will be directly uploaded to band.video and infowars.com.
Be on the lookout for that.
dan friesen
I am on the lookout.
And I found it.
jordan holmes
Oh, I thought you might have.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, this is an hour-long video.
jordan holmes
No, you don't need an hour to say, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, oh, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck.
dan friesen
It's mostly commercial.
It's mostly just like, I want money.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
We need money.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And Barnes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
unidentified
Media star Bobby Barnes is here.
dan friesen
And it's just whining.
alex jones
This is an incredible time to be alive and to lay out how this show trial of the century that would make the Nazis blush is Robert Barnes.
Robert, simply incredible.
robert barnes
No doubt.
I mean, basically...
Even the Soviets tried to make a show trial at least a good show.
This was a show trial that was so one-sided, so evidently partisan, so made for the movie scripts.
I was talking to Mark Robert the other day, and this is a Hollywood screenwriter, and even he was shocked to hear how it was basically designed.
The courtroom was designed like a set with three big movie cameras with the judge alternating what could be said and when it could be said and how it could be said and who could say it in such a way that had nothing to do with the rules of evidence, nothing to do with...
of law in Texas, nothing to do with constitutional liberties and protection, and everything to do with scripting a case so that it would have a particular outcome and, in particular, a future media narrative that could be spun, and ultimately, an actual future.
dan friesen
Do these guys know what the Nazis did?
The Nazis would blush at this trial?
jordan holmes
I mean...
dan friesen
It's a little offensive.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, I was in the courtroom for a lot more of the case than media star Bobby Barnes, and I can say very clearly and with no hesitation that the courtroom was not laid out like a movie set, and it wasn't following a script.
I get that that's a convenient narrative for him and Alex to push because they lost, and the fallout from this case is going to be spectacular, but this is a weak attempt at damage control or whatever they're doing.
For one thing, there were a few cameras in the courtroom, like I mentioned, but they weren't all the same people's cameras.
One was the court's Zoom camera, one was the law and crime feed, there were HBO cameras for the documentary, and on that note, there was a sign on the door to the courtroom that advised people that there was a crew from HBO filming, and if they didn't consent to be in the background of shots, they shouldn't come in.
Beyond that, there really wasn't much of an effect that the cameras had on the actual case.
Nope.
unidentified
The place where cameras were much more involved in making a scene relates to Alex's actions.
dan friesen
On the first Tuesday, the first day of the case proper, Alex held a mini press conference.
Yep.
After being scolded about how that wasn't appropriate, at lunch Alex tried to do it all again in front of the courthouse, but there was no one there to watch him have a tantrum.
Alex wanted a show trial vibe.
He wanted there to be tons of national media crews there covering the case, but he didn't get that.
I think it's instructive to understand that this complaint that there were all these cameras is actually expressing Alex and Barnes' disappointment that there weren't cameras there that they could exploit for their own purposes.
It's less about the cameras and more about how they weren't.
If you are...
jordan holmes
If you're a lawyer...
If you're a lawyer, right, shouldn't I be allowed to play that clip before we get into a law argument or something?
If I'm a lawyer and Barnes is across the hall from me and he's on the other desk, shouldn't I be allowed to play that clip and be like, Barnes is not taking law seriously, period.
Not at all.
This guy is not a lawyer.
Stop letting him law.
Just take law from him.
dan friesen
I think, I mean, look, I'm not involved in law, so I don't know what is and is not relevant to various things, but I would allow it.
jordan holmes
I mean, if a lawyer is relevant to the law, I would assume.
dan friesen
Yeah, I would say so, especially after this next clip.
I mean, if you listen to this, you'll be like, you're not a serious person.
alex jones
This is incredible.
Robert Barnes continuing with your observations, both watching the trial on TV, being down there, having live coverage of it, why you say it's the most insane show trial ever.
robert barnes
It is because, well first of all, there pretty much wasn't a right that the judge didn't violate.
First Amendment right of freedom of expression, freedom of association, freedom of the press.
What?
You brought all of those!
Sixth Amendment rights to both counsel and confrontation infringed by the attorney-client privilege being disclosed and the right to confront those making accusations against you.
Seventh Amendment right to trial by jury, and that means a right to trial by jury on all facts, not just the facts the judge decides can be tried.
And that all of those same analogous federal constitutional provisions have analogs in the state constitution of the state of Texas.
dan friesen
Weren't these dudes laughing about the case a couple hours ago, like fake laughing?
It's weird how this judgment changed their mood a little bit.
I would like to give a rebuttal to Barnes's claims.
On the First Amendment front, he gives no explanation for how the judge violated Alex's First Amendment rights.
He just asserts it as a fact, and I contest that.
Barnes could never make that case in court, because if he could, you kind of expect he would still be Alex's lawyer, considering that was a huge part of Barnes's argument back when he was Alex's lawyer.
On the Second Amendment side, is he saying that the judge didn't allow Alex to bring I'm unclear on this.
jordan holmes
I believe he's saying that...
By not allowing Alex to describe as his reasoning the Second Amendment, that is a violation of the Second Amendment.
dan friesen
No, because that's just the First Amendment thing all over again, and it's not also a violation of the First Amendment.
jordan holmes
I'm not saying it.
dan friesen
None of these rights are violated.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
I noticed that Barnes isn't accusing the judge of violating the Third Amendment, which is good.
I would hate to hear that Alex was forced to quarter any soldiers during the trial.
jordan holmes
He was not.
dan friesen
And I don't know if he'd have any place for them to sleep, considering all the space his ridiculous team of security probably took up.
Judge Gamble didn't rule on whether or not Mark could turn over Alex's phone data.
She specifically said she wasn't going to get in the middle of that.
Either way, it's not an invasion of his privacy because it was accidentally disclosed by Alex's lawyer and Mark followed the proper channels before bringing it up.
If Mark had gotten the text through clandestine means, then that would be a different story, but this was Raynall fucking up.
Also, nothing about Discovery, which Alex didn't even cooperate with, violated Alex's Fourth Amendment rights.
This is stupid.
Alex's Fifth Amendment rights are fully intact.
He was not compelled to testify against himself and he had all the due process an asshole can get.
He had every opportunity to participate in the case but chose not to.
Civil and criminal courts cannot operate if people can just decide that they've made up in their mind that they've been jammed up so they don't have to participate in the case.
And any attempt to make them participate is actually the state railroading them.
Sometimes it does happen that innocent parties get caught up in protracted processes defending themselves, and that sucks.
But that's also why there are mechanisms in place to compensate people who have to go through that, and why you can countersue if you need to.
The Sixth Amendment doesn't apply since it's about criminal cases, and the Seventh Amendment only requires jury trials for civil cases in federal courts.
And this is in the state court, and Barnes is saying that there are analogs in state court, then why are you talking about the Constitution, dum-dum?
jordan holmes
Good call.
dan friesen
Barnes is a lawyer.
He should know better, and he does.
He just doesn't care.
He's not a lawyer.
He's someone who knows law stuff and is happy to use that law stuff to justify right-wing idiots on shows like this and his own podcast with Viva Frye.
Small point.
The guy who tried to storm that Ohio FBI office allegedly posted this on Truth Social.
Quote, I'm having trouble getting information, but Viva Fry said Patriots are heading to Palm Beach, where Mar-a-Lago is.
I recommend going and being Florida.
I think the feds won't break it up.
If they do, kill them.
If I were Barnes, and I really wanted to evoke an amendment for Alex, I would go with the 18th.
Now, sure, that was repealed by the 21st Amendment, but if there was ever a right Alex could use right about now, it's the prohibition of alcohol.
See that?
jordan holmes
Yes.
It was very clever.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'll give you that.
dan friesen
Yeah, calm down with the booze, Alex.
jordan holmes
You know, it's so annoying when people are like, oh, we're more polarized than ever.
There was an argument to be made that somehow more amendments were passed after or before prohibition was repealed.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Like, everybody agreed that prohibition was a bad idea once it happened.
And then they still managed to agree on two more amendments before they could agree on repealing Prohibition?
We couldn't get half an amendment passed through now.
dan friesen
No, probably not.
jordan holmes
And the only one I would guarantee is Prohibition.
We could absolutely repeal Prohibition today.
dan friesen
I bet we couldn't.
I would take that bet.
jordan holmes
You might be right.
You might be right.
dan friesen
So, look, Barnes, like I said, shithead, dum-dum.
I'll repeat that.
I will double down.
jordan holmes
I've said worse words.
robert barnes
If the same standard was applied to Axios that was applied to you, they could be sued into bankruptcy tomorrow by running a headline that says the mayor of Uvalde questions whether or not there's a school shooting cover-up.
jordan holmes
Do it.
robert barnes
Because to be clear, they didn't limit this case to just one or two specific statements.
They said any statement questioning anything concerning the Sandy Hook official narrative warranted a death penalty.
They gave you a death penalty sanctioned in the default judgment stage, then you're Barnes is a total shithead and a liar but he doesn't actually believe what he's saying.
dan friesen
He's also not so dumb as to be unaware that what he's saying is a lie.
Obviously.
This case absolutely did not include any supposition that questioning aspects of public events constituted defamation.
The reason that it might appear that way if you're not paying attention is because the plaintiff's attorneys brought up a ton of instances of Alex repeating and defending talking points that he had used to argue that the shooting never happened long after he claims he stopped arguing that it didn't happen.
In fact, Alex was repeating those claims in the middle of his supposed apology video.
Imagine this scenario, using one of Alex's bullshit claims from the Sandy Hook Times, which he got from Halbick and Fetzer, and continued to repeat long after supposedly realizing the shooting happened.
Imagine you see online that people are claiming that the school wasn't even open and there was no internet traffic to the school's website in the year before the shooting.
You would be totally free to discuss this claim that people were making online, and hopefully you would have the decency to take like five minutes to look into it and see that it's bullshit before going on air and mindlessly repeating the claim.
But even so, if you repeat it as a question that folks have, you aren't committing defamation.
This isn't what Alex did.
He used these alleged anomalies as a pile of evidence that he would drop on the audience to support his claim that the shooting didn't happen.
When the plaintiff's attorneys would demonstrate that he was still making these claims in the fairly recent past, what they're doing is illustrating that he's still making the same arguments.
To deconstruct this a little bit, Alex was making the argument, if the school's website got no traffic, then the school wasn't open.
If the school wasn't open, the shooting could not have happened.
Therefore, the shooting didn't happen.
It's essentially a setup of if A then B, if B then C, A therefore C. It's a perfectly fine construction for an argument, and it's called a hypothetical syllogism.
And assuming all your premises are correct, it follows that your conclusion will be as well.
When Alex has made the argument repeatedly on this show, the audience understands that A is proof of C, whether or not they understand this logic path.
So when Alex is claiming he believes the shooting happened, but then still insisting that premise A is correct, what he's doing is still affirming the conclusion while pretending that he's not.
This is one of the ways that Alex has his cake and eats it too, or as Mark said it in the trial, he wants it always.
If you pay attention to his show, you'll see a bit of this behavior, and in the case of Sandy Hook, you can plug in a bunch of different narratives in that place for premise A, and it works the same.
Paramedics weren't allowed in the building, kids walked around in circles, FBI crime stats say no murders happened in Newtown that year.
All of these things are the first premises for that hypothetical syllogism structure.
Barnes understands this, and on some level Alex does too, but even leaving that aside, Alex's actions as it relates to Sandy Hook are so much worse than just making claims publicly.
His promotion of Wolfgang Halbig after the point where he could be reasonably expected to know that Wolfgang was harassing victims' family members, including Scarlett Lewis, is something that you might notice Barnes doesn't even touch.
The defense of Alex is grandstanding, and that grandstanding only works if you have a strawman version of the accusation that you need to defend yourself against.
And Barnes knows all this.
He's a total shithead.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it reminds me of my favorite moment in the trial, was when, I believe, Raynal was questioning, and then there was this...
Massive objection storm because his questioning was really, really terrible and obviously against the rules and stuff.
So the judge shuts him down and then they have to have a sidebar and Ray Nall afterwards claims he's like, here's the problem.
This is a sanction by the court because they made us look dumb.
And then the judge said, only you can do that.
That is exactly how I feel about Barnes right now.
He's like, the court is doing all of this stuff!
The court is doing this!
Only you make yourself look dumb.
That's what's happening, man.
You are the one.
dan friesen
And you sound a little desperate, too.
You're making yourself sound a little desperate by way of how much this is just an infomercial.
unidentified
Yep.
alex jones
I'm quite frankly surprised, because listeners are so used to us being steadfast, so used to us being resilient, that they're like, okay, well, Jones has said he's close to oblivion quite a bit.
We're getting a little extra support, but not what we should.
And I think if it becomes evident where we actually do start shutting down, we'll have a lot of support, and then we'll try to reorganize and do something.
But now's the time to support if you ever were.
robert barnes
Oh, no doubt, because this is what keeps Infowars alive on a monthly basis that pays all the salaries.
dan friesen
I don't understand why he's still doing commercials while they're planning to sue him, allegedly.
I kind of do understand.
It's all nonsense, for sure.
Anyway, the conversation of Alex's phone comes up, and there's a little bit of defense being played here about the idea that there are intimate photos.
jordan holmes
Oh, there's a little defense about that being played?
dan friesen
Yeah, Alex is a little defensive.
alex jones
Let me tell you, these people, with their statements, gave me more energy than I've ever had.
It's on.
robert barnes
Even though they have the phone and the secret contacts with Vlad and, you know, they were supposed to be going over to Moscow soon or whatever.
alex jones
Oh, I'm going to play more of their clips, but let's talk about that.
It's six months on my phone.
Late 2019, early 2020.
It's some CPAC stuff.
And it's pictures of my wife and me and the kids and stuff like that.
And I gave Texas and I gave Connecticut the phones.
They were searching them in six-month tranches.
And the paralegal...
Left, like, a six-month raw thing in there.
And we all went through it.
There's nothing there.
We didn't do anything wrong anyways.
And so he's like, we have two years.
We have the whole phone.
That was not true.
Like, they have Hunter Biden's laptop.
And, of course, well, where's the crack pipes?
Where's the whores?
Where's the...
Sorry.
I mean, there was a photo I sent my wife or her naked.
Okay, they got that.
So, my wife looks pretty good.
Go ahead.
The point is that there's one naked picture of my wife in there.
So, that's what they've got.
And it's just no dick pics, no nothing.
dan friesen
This is uncomfortable.
unidentified
I wouldn't put this out.
jordan holmes
Just don't put your business like that out.
Let Mark tell people that you're a shitty person on top of a monster.
dan friesen
I will say this with absolute certainty.
Nobody who has access to that phone that I'm aware of would ever release naked pictures, even if it's like a dick pic of Alex's that could hypotheticalize.
No, I mean, it's wrong.
Just not say anything, and this would never be an issue.
jordan holmes
Morally, it is a horrific thing to do.
To send a picture of somebody that's not...
dan friesen
Alex is adding information to this that is making it quite uncomfortable.
jordan holmes
You didn't need to add that part.
You didn't need to...
Hey, you could have said it, and then you didn't have to add the part where you're saying, I sent it to a third party without consent.
dan friesen
Well, he's trying to say...
jordan holmes
Although, maybe he got consent.
I don't know.
I don't know.
dan friesen
No, because Alex is trying to say that he just sent a naked picture of his wife to...
To his wife, I think.
If you follow what he's saying in here.
jordan holmes
Ah, yeah.
dan friesen
But I think...
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I'm gonna go with Mark told the real version.
dan friesen
Well, I don't know.
We'll see.
I mean, we won't see.
jordan holmes
No, we absolutely won't see.
We will never see this, and thank God for that.
dan friesen
Yeah, because honestly, more importantly, is the stuff that means something.
Like the Paul Joseph Watson text that was shown in court.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Here, Barnes and Alex intentionally missed the point.
robert barnes
Yeah, I mean, it's more fake news.
And it's an attempt to sort of...
I mean, what's extraordinary is they got to see a microscopic, up-close view of Infowars and Alex Jones, and they couldn't produce any incriminatory information.
That's why they had...
alex jones
They had one text message about Paul saying, this looks like a BS Sandy Hook story.
robert barnes
And he is exactly, which had nothing to do with Sandy Hook.
alex jones
That's your smoke.
Oh, we have your phone, and here it is!
robert barnes
Yeah, completely.
I mean, there's no basis of a criminal case whatsoever.
There's no perjury.
There's no lies.
dan friesen
So there's two things.
The first is that that text from Paul illustrates That Alex has awareness that the story that he was doing about COVID was bullshit, and it was Sandy Hook all over again, and Alex admitted, I get it.
I understand that this is what we're doing, and I don't care.
We're doing this.
The second thing is that the existence of this text is full evidence that Alex did commit perjury when he said that he had looked through his phone and turned over everything that had the word Sandy Hook in them.
Because this existed and was not turned over.
That is a problem.
They're just completely missing the point and saying, oh, it didn't even involve Sandy Hook.
That is correct.
But those words were there, and because of that...
jordan holmes
It's an issue.
dan friesen
You're in hot water.
jordan holmes
If those words were in there, and you searched your phone, you would have found that text, and you specifically chose not to give it to us.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Now, Barnes is one of the great legal minds of Infowars.
jordan holmes
It's very clear from this appearance that that is true.
dan friesen
And only a great legal mind could come up with an argument like this about why everything on Alex's phone is totally cool.
alex jones
They go, intimate Roger Stone text.
It's like Roger saying, yeah, my wife fell and broke her leg.
God, it's hard.
Somebody just beat us up in the parking lot.
I'm like, I'm so sorry, man.
And that's intimate.
robert barnes
Yeah, I know.
I mean, all of it's just one thing.
If there was anything there, it would be on the front page of CNN, the New York Times, and everyone else.
It would have already been fully disclosed and revealed and released.
There isn't anything there.
It's like Trump.
In other words, they get to do a macroscopic, microscopic look at your entire life, and all they can come up with is pretty much nothing.
dan friesen
So that's bad reasoning.
The fact that there isn't anything that's been revealed means there's nothing to reveal.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I mean, I guess that works now, but that may not work eventually.
jordan holmes
I mean, his argument, unfortunately, the way he put it is essentially, you know, I didn't get caught robbing that bank, so I didn't rob that bank.
dan friesen
Yeah, haven't been arrested yet.
jordan holmes
Yeah, see?
I'm golden.
If they knew I'd robbed the bank, then they would have arrested it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yep.
jordan holmes
Smart legal mind.
dan friesen
Not to be outdone by Alex accusing everyone of being a pedophile.
Right.
Barnes decides to get in the mix.
jordan holmes
Wow.
It's a fever.
dan friesen
And he accuses, by implication, Mark of being a pedophile.
jordan holmes
Great.
mark bankston
And that's also going to have to take into account what the Lafferty claims are valued at, and the Posner claims are valued at, and the Fontaine claims are valued at.
unidentified
And that is why I've been saying that what this is heading towards.
mark bankston
Is there is going to be a large set of plaintiffs who are going to be dividing up the corpse of Infowars in the bankruptcy estate.
And over the course of that process, that could get very, very dangerous for Mr. Jones.
Because there is going to be a new level of financial scrutiny.
And if, you know, some lawyer like me can basically find out that he's hiding the keys to the candy store, pull it out in front of him on the stand, I can only imagine what federal receivers are going to do.
unidentified
So yeah, it's going to get interesting from here on out.
alex jones
They think Infowars is the candy store.
robert barnes
Well, you can tell.
Well, I don't say what comes to mind.
alex jones
I mean, the point is that you've seen the finances here.
It's so funny.
They're drilling a dry well, and they just can't imagine that.
They project this stuff onto us, but what do you make of those claims?
robert barnes
So, I mean, I think there was definitely some confession through projection there.
The way his eyes lit up at candy store.
I don't want to know why he goes to a candy store.
I'll put it that way.
jordan holmes
Wow.
For somebody who got his ass wiped by Mark in every possible way whenever he was involved legally.
It is a lot easier to make fun of him when you're on a talk show and he's not anywhere near you.
alex jones
Candy!
dan friesen
Confession by Projection is another one you should write down.
It's like the blank and blank.
jordan holmes
I'll give you a point on that one.
dan friesen
It's that linguistic flourish that he does.
jordan holmes
I'll give you a point for that one.
dan friesen
So Alex actually makes a really good point here about some of Mark's comments.
Okay.
Particularly the comment that we have a bunch of plaintiffs that are going to be splitting up the corpse of Infowars.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Alex makes a great point here, and I have mixed feelings about it.
alex jones
Well, that's the thing.
If I wanted my enemies to fight me, I would say, I will destroy you.
You're over.
I'm going to dominate you.
jordan holmes
Like when you said that?
alex jones
Don't they know what they're doing?
Like, do they not know the gold with our audience?
Them saying we're going to cut up his corpse?
We're going to shut them down?
We're going to shut all these Americans down?
They literally just declared war on the middle class and America and the Midwest.
robert barnes
Completely.
dan friesen
What Alex is saying here can be translated as, don't these people understand how much I'm going to be able to fundraise off a quote like that?
Alex's business model operates off fear, and he's able to monetize his ability to capture the audience in a state of fear.
When there's a statement like Mark's, which can be translated as a direct attack on Alex, Alex can repackage that as an attack on the audience, which will allow him to more easily fleece some of them into continuing to throw money into the pit that is Infowars.
Alex is laughing because he feels that Mark has made his job of raising money easier, but there's a larger reality that Alex is trying to distract away from.
Which is that no matter what he does, there's a sort of Damocles hanging over his head.
All the posturing and fundraising isn't really going to matter much to a bankruptcy audit.
And when you step into that arena, it's not a civil matter if you try to play games.
You could end up going to jail for the sort of crimes you end up pulling there.
And you have to consider what could come with the very clear cases of perjury that Alex was caught committing in the course of the trial.
I don't know any of the specifics, but I wouldn't be surprised if that was something that could lead to huge fines or possibly even be referred for prosecution.
Alex can do this song and dance with Barnes all they want, and it's fun for him to pretend that he's won this trial, but in order to do that, he has to pretend a whole tranche of other problems don't exist and aren't nipping at his heels.
Like, this is just...
It's a grim picture.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I don't know how to deal with whenever you find out somebody perjured themselves on the stand when they're still on the stand.
You know, like, I feel like that's almost a moment where the whole thing should, like, the light should turn off.
dan friesen
You should be able to run away.
jordan holmes
Like, yeah, there should be something, you know?
Like, there's no way, because it cannot just be, like, later on he gets a fine.
That cannot be the case.
You can't tell me that I could just go and lie to a judge and then pay $1,000.
dan friesen
I'm not sure it would be $1,000, but maybe for you.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, but relatively speaking, you know what I'm saying?
Like, that cannot be okay.
It just can't.
dan friesen
I agree.
I agree.
But I also think you should be able to run.
jordan holmes
I think you should have to run.
I think you should have to have a smoke bomb.
dan friesen
No.
No smoke bombs.
But you have to evade the court officers.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
If you can, then you get out.
But if not...
You gotta come back to the stand.
jordan holmes
Then it turns into American Gladiators, and if you make it through the hole, then you win.
dan friesen
If you get past Thunder.
jordan holmes
It's you versus Jets, and yeah, yeah, yeah.
I gotcha.
dan friesen
And Boulder, or whatever the fuck.
jordan holmes
Turbo.
dan friesen
Turbo is one of them.
jordan holmes
Turbo is definitely one of them.
dan friesen
So Barnes believes this is gonna go to the Texas Supreme Court, maybe the U.S. Supreme Court, and he has some really fun ways of expressing how close they are to winning cases like that.
robert barnes
This is a bondable judgment.
We'll go up to the Texas Supreme Court.
Will be decided by them at some point in the process.
And if the Texas Supreme Court gets involved, it's We already had like...
alex jones
We're one short of half.
robert barnes
Only one justice short of them taking it and throwing this out from the very beginning because the very nature of the suit violates the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.
Always has.
Also violates Texas law on the definition of intentional infliction of emotional distress.
dan friesen
Oh man, that's a really fun way to say you lost.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
One justice short of half.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
I mean, like, what?
Do you think you're not going to still be one justice short of half?
Do you think, like, have you changed the Supreme Court of Texas?
jordan holmes
Honestly, I really don't even think...
They'll get that justice short of half because they're not remembering that they're still, despite them being conservatives, the Texas Supreme Court or whatever, despite their strong conservative leanings, etc.
These people are still lawyers and judges and shit, you know?
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
And I imagine that when they start looking at somebody abusing the court system the way Alex did, even though they're like, I'll lick Trump's feet.
They're still gonna be like, this guy can't be doing that shit.
dan friesen
And if they review the entirety of the case, you might be like, well, we gotta take this perjury stuff a little more seriously.
It could backfire.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Maybe not.
I don't know.
Anyway, the point is, we're coming to the end of this special report, because it's mostly just...
Rambling about how...
It's just the same shit repeated over and over again.
I want him to talk about cannibalism and reanimating spiders.
jordan holmes
That was great.
dan friesen
That was fun.
jordan holmes
You could grasp something with the spider just with air.
Whose idea was that?
dan friesen
Some weirdo at Rice University.
jordan holmes
That's a question that I don't think anybody explained fully to me.
The guy who was like...
And nobody was like, eh, I was drunk.
Nobody's saying that.
dan friesen
I was watching the video and the lady who was the grad student who was working on it was like, we thought...
We might be able to do it, and we just put the needle in to work the first time.
I was like, what?
jordan holmes
What the fuck?
unidentified
Okay.
Cool.
jordan holmes
That is great.
We were like, hey, I wonder if we could do this.
Hey, let's do it.
dan friesen
I was on Toad the other day, and I was like, hey, spiders kind of look like hands.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
Okay.
All right.
jordan holmes
All right.
Okay.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So we're coming to the end of this, and of course, we're going to have to dismount on some salesmanship.
But also, hey, man.
You gotta understand that Alex is a hero.
jordan holmes
I don't know if that's true.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
And he expresses his heroism quite clearly.
jordan holmes
Alright.
alex jones
If viewers don't buy the products, if viewers don't spread the word, yes, we'll be shut down.
But it's not in Bankston's hands.
It's not in this SJW judge's hands.
It's not in Hillary Clinton's hands.
It's not in Satan's hands.
God helps those that help themselves.
It is in your hands.
And I'll be quite honest with you.
I'm gonna fight 100%.
I'm going to do the best job I can.
But if you take me out of the game, it was time for me to get off the field.
We've had nothing but devastating victory.
I'm like an old NFL quarterback ready to retire, okay?
But I can't because this isn't football, folks.
This is our children's future.
I'm telling you, I will never give up.
But if you don't back us, and if you don't get how serious this is, you're next.
So I can't quit, and I will not quit.
But if you quit...
I have no power.
dan friesen
This is such a weird abuse.
jordan holmes
Listen, I will never quit, but if you quit, I've already quit.
So that's the situation.
So I will never quit fighting for you.
dan friesen
I am a fucking hero for the children, and I will never quit.
And if the day does come that I do quit, it's your fault.
jordan holmes
It's totally your fault.
dan friesen
It's your fault.
jordan holmes
It's your fault.
Listen, there's nothing I can do.
I would love to not quit, but I don't have hundreds of millions of dollars anymore.
unidentified
I will.
dan friesen
Never.
Quit.
And if you stop paying me, I'm done, and it's your fault.
jordan holmes
Can you imagine?
dan friesen
And then the kids will all die.
jordan holmes
Can you imagine a sadder person than the one who is like, I will fight my holy crusade as long as I get a good salary?
dan friesen
Yeah, the sadder person is the person who buys into it and pays his salary.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
That is fair.
That is the sadder person.
dan friesen
Anyway, here's the dismount.
alex jones
God bless you all.
Thank you for tuning in.
Now share the live feed of this and share the archive of it at band.video or roll over and die, which I know you're not going to do.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, what?
alex jones
I'm not going to do it either.
And I pledge to you all, I'm going to redouble my efforts.
dan friesen
That took a turn.
Yeah, we got the violin.
jordan holmes
That's fine.
Gotta have that.
dan friesen
But yeah, share this video or roll over and die.
Man.
jordan holmes
Ah, boy.
dan friesen
I can't imagine anyone watching the video and being like, everyone must see this.
It's not really even a response to the news of the judgment.
jordan holmes
No.
It doesn't clear anything up.
It makes things as confusing as possible and then says, we'll get them in the Supreme Court.
You've said...
dan friesen
We're one short of half.
jordan holmes
I know, but they've said...
Over and over and over again, we're going to sue these people and we're going to win.
And they never sue anybody.
Why would you believe that they're going to win in the Supreme Court?
dan friesen
Well, this time they're going to do it.
One short a half.
unidentified
Oh, well.
jordan holmes
I mean, Mike Lindell isn't even paying for the lawsuits this time.
They don't have it.
dan friesen
They don't got it.
Also, after that whole pageant that Alex did about really respecting Neil and Scarlett and meeting them and wanting to support them and all this, it's great that he would want to drag this out even further and inconvenience them.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
So that's cool.
Anyway, we have reached what I will call the end of my patience for the trial coverage.
jordan holmes
I think that's a good time.
dan friesen
This chapter has ended along with Sneak Week.
And, you know, it's been something else.
I'm glad that it has closed, the chapter.
And, you know, I hope you have a good trip.
But we have a lot to get to when you get back.
jordan holmes
Right.
No, I mean, this has been...
dan friesen
I'm looking on Twitter as we're recording this, and it turns out they leaked the warrant for Trump's search.
jordan holmes
No, they released it.
dan friesen
I think it leaked and was released.
jordan holmes
Yeah, just have a fun time.
Have a fun day!
dan friesen
So, there's a lot, man.
I mean, enjoy Ireland, but at the same time...
jordan holmes
No, I understand.
dan friesen
Be conscious of the fact that chaos is brewing.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Ooh, give me a druid staff.
jordan holmes
Will do.
You will get all kinds of druid shit, my man.
You are a druid.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
You are...
dan friesen
Get me a Gandalf outfit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I gotta...
dan friesen
I don't know if that's even Irish.
jordan holmes
What's your character's name again?
Dutch Wildfang!
dan friesen
That's right.
jordan holmes
Dutch Wildfang.
dan friesen
I'm not going to keep that moniker.
jordan holmes
This has been the craziest few weeks, I think, of either of our lives.
And you have been an absolute fucking star.
dan friesen
Oh, thank you.
unidentified
You as well.
jordan holmes
I am glad to take a little breaky.
dan friesen
Yeah, me too.
You can kind of tell, I think, in this episode, my exhaustion has hit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Take a break.
I am glad to land this plane.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
But yeah, we'll be back.
jordan holmes
Indeed we will.
dan friesen
And we'll talk about Trump's raid and Alex's response to it.
jordan holmes
It's going to get crazy.
dan friesen
But until then, Jordan, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do!
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight.
dan friesen
We will be back.
But until then, Jordan, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Wilford Snibblesnabble of the Gribble Pibble.
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
andy in kansas
Alex, I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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