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Dec. 31, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
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#632: Christmas Message and More

Today, Dan and Jordan finish catching up by taking in Alex's very serious warning to Trump that he released on Christmas.  Then, they take in the December 29 episode to see how many stacks (aka "stackies") Alex can get through in one show.

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alex jones
22:38
d
dan friesen
01:01:54
j
jordan holmes
23:50
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donald j trump
00:21
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steve kirsch
00:22
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steve krisch
00:05
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steve quayle
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
donald j trump
Dan and Jordan.
knowledge fight.
unidentified
I need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding me.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Ride.
I'm Dan.
We're a couple dudes.
Sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question.
dan friesen
Sup?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan.
I meant to get this on the last episode, and I forgot, but my bright spot is some very nice Christmas gifts that came in from folks.
Amy, thank you so much.
Sent in some lovely art.
That we got those framed art pieces.
jordan holmes
Very, very good.
dan friesen
And a cool cooking book.
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
I am enjoying.
I haven't actually made anything from it, but it has cool pictures.
And I appreciate that.
Also, Sam, thank you so much, sent us some books.
You got some H.G. Wells.
jordan holmes
Oh, man, I got some serious volumes.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I got an interesting book here.
I haven't had a chance to crack into it, but it's about Lovecraft.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I got the H.G. Wells book from that era where if you were a science fiction writer, you also had to write The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire along those lines, yeah.
dan friesen
They're gorgeous hardcover books.
I appreciate that.
I always love a dignified...
Hardcover.
jordan holmes
Ooh, never lend a hardcover, Dan.
One rule.
One rule.
dan friesen
Also, Christy, Black Dragon Queen.
jordan holmes
Oh, Black Dragon Queen Christy.
dan friesen
Sent, like, an indoor campfire thing with marshmallows to make s'mores.
It was incredible.
jordan holmes
It was incredible.
My partner saw it and then immediately said to me, We're not doing this inside.
dan friesen
You at least have a porch.
jordan holmes
That's true, yes.
dan friesen
You could do that there.
I'm not as lucky.
jordan holmes
Just hold it out the window.
dan friesen
I could do that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that makes sense.
dan friesen
So yeah, thank you, folks.
It's really nice, cool stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it was incredible.
dan friesen
How about you?
jordan holmes
My bright spot, of course, is gratitude.
But also, I have finally gotten into The Expanse, the sci-fi series of novels and television that...
Every sci-fi nerd has unequivocally praised almost nonstop for about 15 years.
Finally, I have caught up to the party, and it's really good.
dan friesen
Welcome.
jordan holmes
It's really good.
dan friesen
I say as if I've watched it.
jordan holmes
You haven't?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
You won't.
dan friesen
It's fine.
But welcome.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
dan friesen
I say condescendingly as hell.
jordan holmes
I join you in the spirit of joy.
dan friesen
Hurrah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we have an interesting episode to go over.
Okay.
Here's what's going to be on our plate.
Something happened, and that was on Christmas.
Alex put out an emergency warning to Donald Trump about the vaccines and stuff.
He's very mad about Trump supporting the vaccines, as we covered on the last episode.
And this has escalated to a Christmas Day emergency message.
Trump, put down the cocoa.
Yes, yes.
Tell Barron to go to the other room.
I got a warning.
jordan holmes
The three wise men have run away.
Camels and horses in the opposite direction.
dan friesen
I come bearing gifts of frankincense, myrrh, and a dire warning.
jordan holmes
And get the fuck out!
dan friesen
So we got that.
And then we're going to be going over Wednesday, December 29th.
jordan holmes
21. Blackjack.
Oh, God, how did I?
I was that one!
I was the one who said 2021!
dan friesen
I tricked you into saying 2021!
jordan holmes
You son of a bitch!
dan friesen
I had to really revolutionize the game on the last episode of 2021.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, that was well done.
No, no, that was well done.
You flipped it around.
I was defeated for one final time.
dan friesen
There's nowhere else we can go with it.
jordan holmes
I'm essentially the dark one.
dan friesen
So we're going to do this, the episode from Wednesday, just to, first of all, because there's some sort of follow-up on the Trump warning.
Of course.
And then, also, because I want to get us, you know...
Pretty much caught up, because on Monday, I'd really like to finally get into Reset Wars.
jordan holmes
Some goddamn time, we're gonna get into Reset Wars.
dan friesen
One of these days.
jordan holmes
That clones will be back.
dan friesen
So we've got an emergency Christmas message, but first, let's say hello to some new wonks, Jordan.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Chase and his invisible hamster.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Chase!
alex jones
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Marquez Calloway Mini Star Fan Club.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Annie Knowlton is an absolute unit.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Annie.
dan friesen
Next, Big Bird Gold versus Bigfoot.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Next, Mr. Aptronym.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Mr. Aptronym.
dan friesen
And to George Love, Jamie, did you hear that frog?
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
unidentified
Thank you!
dan friesen
Also, we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so I'd like to say thank you and hello to Rotten.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate!
That's fantastic!
Have yourself a brew!
How's your 401k doing, bro?
Alright, we gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimp so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Rod.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
Alright, here's another context drop, Jordan, from today's show.
alex jones
Let it be said on my tombstone that I'm part of Team Human.
dan friesen
We got it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Check.
I will honor this request once you have passed.
jordan holmes
Listen, I'm going to give the wonks a little bit of a glimpse into a behind-the-scenes thing.
Just so everyone knows, every time he plays that song, both of us start dancing.
Both of us move our shoulders back and forth.
If you ever hear that song, know that we are doing that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I like to party.
jordan holmes
I like to dance.
We both just dance back and forth.
All right.
Yes.
dan friesen
You ready for this?
jordan holmes
I am.
dan friesen
What were you doing on Christmas Day?
jordan holmes
I think we were sleeping for the most part.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
There wasn't much to do because everything was closed and also, you know, COVID.
So we were just kind of sleeping.
dan friesen
I was watching Reset Wars.
jordan holmes
And to all a good night!
dan friesen
Yes.
Here's what Alex was doing.
alex jones
This is an emergency Christmas Day warning to President Trump.
You are either completely ignorant about the so-called vaccine gene therapy that you helped ram through with Operation Warp Speed, or you're one of the most evil men who has ever lived to push this toxic poison on the public.
and to attack your constituents when they simply try to save their lives and the lives of others.
We're about to lay out the basic incontrovertible facts that what you told Candace Owens just a few days ago is nothing but a raft of dirty lies.
dan friesen
Dirty lies.
Clean those lies up.
jordan holmes
You know, sometimes either-or statements feature two things that are not mutually exclusive, and both can be true at the same time.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
Also, raft a nice...
Flip, you know, tranche.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Tranche and raft.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's nice to get rid of tranche.
dan friesen
It's like a grip.
You got a grip or something?
jordan holmes
I do like that.
dan friesen
I like these expressions that are underused.
jordan holmes
Tranche.
It's a murder of bullshit, as they say.
dan friesen
So the original, the last time we were talking about this, Alex was kind of responding to Trump's appearance with Bill O 'Reilly, where he admitted he got the booster and all this.
Now, by this point, Trump had done that interview with Candace Owens, where she had...
He's been implying and saying that the vaccines, people who are vaccinated are the ones who are in the hospitals and dying most.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And Trump's like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
He was not putting up with that.
jordan holmes
Trump was not playing the game right.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so this is what has got Alex's goose on Christmas Day.
Fatten that goose.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Clean those lives.
Fatten that goose.
unidentified
And yet more people have died under COVID this year, by the way, under Joe Biden, than under you.
And more people took the vaccine this year.
So people are questioning how...
donald j trump
Well, no, the vaccine worked, but some people aren't taking it.
The ones that get very sick and go to the hospital are the ones that don't take the vaccine.
But it's still their choice.
And if you take the vaccine, you're protected.
Look, the results of the vaccine are very good.
And if you do get it, it's a very minor form.
People aren't dying when they take the vaccine.
alex jones
Recently, Candace Owens attempted to confront you politely face-to-face with the fact that these so-called vaccines are causing a lot of death and illnesses.
And you doubled down, saying that nobody has been hurt by these shots when that is just a flat-out lie.
dan friesen
But is it a dirty lie?
jordan holmes
I mean, there's one explanation for this, which is...
In order to believe that the vaccines are more dangerous than being unvaccinated, you would have to be dumber or more evil than Donald J. Trump.
dan friesen
That's interesting.
Tough to wrestle with.
jordan holmes
Tough to wrestle with.
dan friesen
Yeah, I thought that...
I mean, obviously, I have...
I spend my time watching Reset Wars and shit like that.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But even I can't...
Handle watching a full episode of whatever Candace Owens does.
jordan holmes
Oh, good God, no.
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
I'm not going to do that.
I'm not going to watch Tim Pool.
I'm just not going to do these things.
jordan holmes
There's no such thing as an observer effect if you can avoid it.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
And so I haven't watched the whole thing, but the clip that I saw from that appearance was pretty funny.
Candace Owens seemed very confused by Trump not being on board.
The mainline Trump community anti-vax position.
jordan holmes
The speed with which he said, no, no, no, no, was almost delicious.
dan friesen
Yeah, and this has really pissed Alex off.
He's not thrilled with it to the point where on Christmas, he's got to release this message where he's clearly pre-recorded this.
There's probably multiple takes.
He's doing a pretty performative voice.
jordan holmes
That was cut together.
dan friesen
We get to a little bit more of this.
Alex is just saying, whatever Trump's saying here, the opposite is actually the opposite.
alex jones
And then you tripled down on top of that and said that 90% of people in the hospitals around the world have not had the vaccine.
When the facts and the statistics show the opposite, in Germany, in the UK, in the US, in Canada, across the world, in places like Israel, the double and triple vaxxed...
are more than two times likely to become sick and to be hospitalized and or die.
In fact, a new study came out just this week.
Here it is for you to research it, President Trump.
dan friesen
So we've spent so much time going over specific claims when they've popped up on Alex's show in the past, so I'm not even going to get back into the weeds on the claims about vaccinated people being twice as likely to be hospitalized.
It's just an old false talking point, but I was curious about this new study, so I thought I'd check in on this.
I generally end up listening to stuff, and when something becomes necessary for me to check visually, I'll go and watch the video.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so when Alex says that there's a new study out for Trump to research...
The image that's on the screen is just a screenshot of a tweet that Ezra Levant posted about a non-peer-reviewed study.
jordan holmes
Great.
Great.
It's awesome.
It doesn't get...
It's much more concrete than that.
It really doesn't.
dan friesen
These fucking dicks think they're blowing everyone's minds and making an appeal to the former president to help them save the world.
They can't even be bothered to track down the actual study to get a screenshot of that.
So they just show a tweet.
The link to the study is in the tweet.
jordan holmes
Wow, you'd have to click through, Dan.
You know nobody clicks through.
dan friesen
So embarrassing.
We'll get to the study in a moment, but I wanted to say something about the experience of going through Ezra's Twitter feed to try and find the link to the study.
It was actually kind of shocking.
Just scrolling through it heightened my anxiety.
It's just a barrage of memes and sensational posts making arguments that I know are flawed and dumb, but the sheer volume of them and the quickness that they come at you and the confidence with these people with shit positions, they just proffer them up.
It still had an effect on me.
It was horrifying to consider what the experience would be like for someone who didn't know that these people are all liars and con men.
This would be so scary to take in.
And how long it would take you to...
Yeah.
It's visceral.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, we're in a situation now where I think we're fundamentally asking the eternal question, who gaslights the gaslighters?
And it turns out it's Trump.
It's Trump who does it.
dan friesen
It's Rorschach.
jordan holmes
While he's also being gaslit.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this study, like I said, hasn't been peer-reviewed, and it almost certainly will either have to be redone or retracted as soon as any review begins.
To quote Ezra's analysis of the study, it shows that, quote, This is in regards to vaccine effectiveness against the Omicron variant.
The reason that I say that this study will probably never make it past peer review is that there's a glaring methodological problem with how they prepare the data for the study.
There were three groups of people that they looked at.
Unvaccinated people, people who had gotten two doses of Moderna, and people who had gotten two doses of Pfizer.
It very well may be the fact that there is a reduced efficacy over time for these vaccines against the Omicron variant, but quite likely the reason there's a negative efficacy reflected in these numbers is that the study excluded people who had previously tested positive with the PCR test, which creates some problems for the data.
One issue is that people who tested positive previously are probably going to be a group that skews heavily towards being unvaccinated, and it's been shown that the Omicron variant can absolutely reinfect people who've previously caught COVID.
Removing this group from the data set may have an effect on the results, or at very least would be a cause for concern to trust the specifics of the numbers as being reflective of reality.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Even leaving that concern aside, the authors of the study have provided a very reasonable explanation for the numbers that make sense.
Quote, The negative estimates in the final period arguably suggest different behavior and or exposure patterns in the vaccinated and unvaccinated cohorts, causing an underestimation of the vaccine effectiveness.
This was likely the result of Omicron spreading rapidly initially through single super-spreading events causing many infections among young vaccinated individuals.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
This would make intuitive sense.
Super-spreading events could have occurred in places where vaccination was required to enter, and this is an issue that's particularly relevant to this study.
The subject of this study were all people in Denmark, which is actually pretty relevant.
In September, Denmark lifted all of its COVID restrictions and went back to business as usual.
It was believed that there was a high enough vaccination rate, so there was no longer any reason to be required to show proof of vaccination at bars and clubs or anywhere.
This was prior to the first identification of the Omicron variant by researchers in South Africa on November 24th.
In mid-November, it was starting to become an issue in Denmark that cases were starting to go up again, and on November 29th, the Danish health authorities reimposed public health measures, including requiring masks and not allowing people to enter many places without a corona pass.
If you look at this study, you'll see that this is the precise time frame when their data was being collected.
The first check-ins were on November 20th, and it ended at the earliest on December 12th, unless there was a positive test or a death that would lead.
Sure.
Here's where the context gets very important.
If you go to the Danish government site about the Corona pass, these are the groups who are eligible to get that pass.
Quote, you can get a Corona pass if you have been previously infected within the last six months, have been vaccinated or tested negative with a PCR test that is no more than 72 hours old and for rapid tests that is no more than 48 hours old.
People who are unvaccinated but who have tested positive in the past within the last six months are eligible for the pass that would allow them to be in places with potentially high concentrations of people around when Omicron was going wild and super spreading events were most likely occurring.
right.
Really something you could use this non-peer-reviewed study to back up.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
So what we're kind of describing is a situation where so many people are vaccinated that the available pool of subjects is such that it's more likely to find that vaccinated people are being reinfected simply because there's so many more of them.
Is that kind of what we're talking about here?
dan friesen
I don't believe so, because I think the rates would probably take care of that somewhat.
There would be a balancing of that.
I think that it's more a faulty application of the cohorts in the data.
Not including people who have tested positive in the past.
Reflects...
Something that would skew things away from unvaccinated people having a higher infection rate.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
I believe that there is an argument you could make on that front.
And whether or not it's fully true or not, I do think it's enough of an issue with how this was set up that you probably would want to redo it.
jordan holmes
It skews the data to the point where the conclusions you could draw from it are too tainted by that data being skewed.
dan friesen
Maybe.
Yeah, maybe.
jordan holmes
Maybe!
Which is the point?
It's maybe.
dan friesen
It's cause for concern.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
And you need to know more before you could really...
Right.
Make any kind of conclusions.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
We're not dealing with maybes.
We're dealing with trying to get as certain as possible.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And also, you have to consider this.
For all but nine days of the time that the study was taking place, unvaccinated people couldn't go on public transit or enter bars or restaurants, whereas vaccinated people could, as well as people who were not vaccinated but who had tested positive in the past.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
These factors make the raw data that you may see, let's say, like in a tweet posted by a notorious Canadian propagandist, it's less than the full picture.
It'll be interesting to see exactly how much of a lowered effectiveness there is over time with Omicron, but this study alone isn't going to prove anything.
I don't think Trump's going to research this.
jordan holmes
No, I definitely don't think that.
dan friesen
If Alex can't do better than a fucking picture of a tweet, it's garbage.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
Garbage.
One of the nice things about science and the peer review process is that when you have a lot of people all coming to the same results, they're far more reliable than if you just have one study out of Denmark!
dan friesen
Yeah.
And I think that these kinds of questions are not really even missed on the authors of the study.
Because the conclusion of the study, even with these raw numbers that would possibly be able to be taken out of context to show a...
Like a negative 76% effectiveness rate.
Right, right, right.
That's not the conclusion that they come to based on certain elements of context.
jordan holmes
Wow, that makes me think that any study now should have highlighted sections where the authors are like, hey, this data could be taken out of context and used for evil purposes.
Just like big...
Giant bullet points of like, here's how propagandists might take this data.
So that when they do, you can even go to the study and be like, see, you're doing what they said you would!
dan friesen
Or a little chunk where it's just like, bad.
Like the study hits you with a rolled up newspaper.
Don't get any ideas.
jordan holmes
Every study has a point where it's like, see, don't take this out of context, Alex, you piece of shit.
dan friesen
So this goes on.
The plan that the globalists have with vaccination.
Quite terrifying.
Trump needs to know about this.
alex jones
Within three months, you are twice as likely to become infected by the Omicron variant if you took the Pfizer vaccine.
That's because it's erasing your immune system.
And that was the plan.
Erase the population's immune system and make them dependent on ongoing gene therapies that have to be taken as often as every day.
That is the plan.
dan friesen
That's so stupid that I don't even really know where to begin with.
I guess I would say that Alex would probably have done a second take after he said Omnicron, but we've seen him say that so much that I think he just actually thinks that's the name.
jordan holmes
kind of reveling in it almost.
dan friesen
More importantly though, if the vaccines were wiping out people's immune systems, you wouldn't just be seeing an increase in cases of COVID, particularly Omicron.
You'd be seeing people dead everywhere from normal very minor things.
Without proper medical attention, people who are vaccinated would be dying or getting severely ill from bacteria that we all normally encounter on a regular basis.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, I mean, I guess you could if you had a severe case of food poisoning anyway.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
But you know what I mean.
jordan holmes
It would be endemic.
No, pneumonia would lay waste to this land.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The situation we're seeing in the world shares no similarities with what you would see if people's immune systems were being erased.
It does share a lot of similarities with what you would expect to see in the current circumstances with COVID.
jordan holmes
For people who were infected with HIV for the longest time, it was not that the actual HIV would kill them.
It would destroy their...
Sure.
dan friesen
Yep.
Also, the figure that Alex is saying about how you're twice as likely to get infected if you get the Pfizer vaccine doesn't even match up with the misrepresentation that he's reporting from Ezra Levant's tweet.
unidentified
Great.
dan friesen
Like, I don't even know what's going on there.
jordan holmes
Great.
Love it.
dan friesen
Weird.
jordan holmes
Compound interest.
dan friesen
Yes.
So we talked about tranches earlier, just because it's a fun word.
We know this word is now identifiable with the FDA documents that are being released vis-a-vis their security checks and safety measures surrounding the Pfizer shot.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Turns out there's now two tranches.
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
dan friesen
We got a second tranche.
jordan holmes
We got a double tranche?
alex jones
That is the plan.
The big pharma takeover of humanity via the immune system.
From day one of the so-called vaccines rollout, Pfizer and the FDA have fought tooth and nail to stop any documents being released to medical whistleblower groups.
But in the last two months, federal courts have ordered the FDA to release several tranches of millions of pages of documents.
The first two data dumps show conclusively that the so-called vaccine has caused thousands and thousands of deaths and more than 160,000 adverse reactions, including spontaneous abortions and miscarriages.
dan friesen
Oh, Facebook's so evil!
jordan holmes
You gotta be on Instagram!
dan friesen
Right.
Anyway, it's nice to hear that there's more tranches of documents now.
We've already gone over Alex's narrative about this dumb shit back on episode 626, so I'm not going to belabor that by going over it all again.
His talking points haven't changed at all, so I don't really believe he's seen any of the new documents that have been released.
The initial documents, the ones he lied about initially, were released on November 17th, 2021.
After that, a few PDFs were released on December 1st, another batch of documents on December 13th, and then one index file on December 22nd.
There's absolutely zero chance Alex has read any of the documents that were released on December 13th because he's already got everything he needs to make up stories from the first document that he read.
That's enough.
Why would he overcomplicate things when he can use that one document as a bedrock to build whatever bullshit he wants on top of it?
Also, Alex probably isn't interested in what's in any of these documents because they really don't help his arguments at all.
There's a 344 page analysis of efficacy trials that show very strong efficacy results.
So that doesn't really help.
There's also a 2,030-page document listing interactions with participants in the trials, like visits to get medical histories or documents showing informed consent being given.
Alex isn't going to dig through this, and no one's tweeted out anything for him to be mad about yet, so the documents in this tranche are just basically the same as the ones in the old one to him.
It's just more of the same thing, which is kind of a tell that he doesn't actually believe there's anything to be revealed in any of these documents.
If he actually believed that this was like a big smoking gun, wouldn't he be trying to squeeze Right.
jordan holmes
It's not that there's anything in there.
It's that they exist at all.
dan friesen
Right.
The specter of them existing is enough to convince...
And the word tranche.
jordan holmes
Oh, totally.
If you see a Komodo dragon, you're like, eh, you know, that probably means that there are dragons that fly around and shoot fire.
That's not quite the good...
dan friesen
That was the conclusion I took away from it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, that's what makes sense to me.
You know, because one exists, obviously, the most extreme version of it exists.
dan friesen
Yeah, back when I was a kid, you know, I lived in Hawaii for a bit, and, you know, we'd catch geckos.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
And all kinds of lizards.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And this taught me that reptilian aliens definitely are around.
jordan holmes
I mean, you...
dan friesen
And their tails grow back.
jordan holmes
You fight one gecko and you realize that if there was one that was, say, several thousand feet tall, you probably wouldn't win.
So, obviously, that's the thing to be afraid of.
dan friesen
I miss chasing lizards.
Anyway, Alex...
jordan holmes
What a great non-sequitur.
dan friesen
It's what I'm reflecting on in the end of the year.
jordan holmes
In the moment, yes.
dan friesen
2022.
jordan holmes
My New Year's resolution.
dan friesen
I miss lizards.
jordan holmes
Chase more lizards.
dan friesen
So Alex, he gets fancy a little bit in this Christmas report.
I don't know if it's him.
Someone who's editing it does.
Because they add in some clips from Alex's show to sort of bolster the conversation.
So he has a little clip here about him talking about these FDA docs.
Tranche One.
alex jones
This is a massive story right here.
And then the documents that are in it, which I'm sorry, I haven't had a chance to read them all.
I've just read the synopsis.
But thousands of more deaths, thousands of more miscarriages, bleeding out of your nose, having convulsions, becoming paralyzed, becoming blind, your ovaries basically dissolving.
Uh-oh, oh, and I've got more on that.
But it's all liberal.
It's so trendy.
Major Norwegian study finds COVID-19 vaccines interfere with young women's periods and basically give you endometriosis where your uterus has got to be removed.
This President Trump is what you are now signing on to.
dan friesen
So, there's a recent study that looked at the possibility of a connection between the vaccines and menstrual changes, and they did find that incidents of menstrual changes did seem to rise after vaccination.
That being said, Alex is a total liar and a fabulist.
This study has nothing to do with endometriosis or people needing to have their uteruses removed.
That's just something Alex is pulling out of thin air.
The actual study had to do with self-reporting of any changes in menstrual patterns for women between the ages of 18 and 30. The specific changes they were looking for had I guess if Alex wants to play hypothetical OBGYN games and assume that any incidences of pain were secretly endometriosis, I guess he could...
Do that if he wants, but he'd just be making that up because the study does not back that up at all.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The authors of this study were very careful to point out that this data relies entirely on self-reporting, so there is a possibility that other variables could lead to participants not reporting their symptoms with complete accuracy.
Also, they do point out that their data shows that, quote, They don't have any data yet on the duration of any effects after dose 2, but it does appear that it probably will be similar to the phenomenon seen in dose 1, but that's left to be seen.
Right.
There's indications that it would probably maybe have some effect and then go back to normal.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I'm absolutely not saying this is no big deal.
I don't want people to think that.
But this study doesn't show the results that are in line with how Alex is reporting them.
This is a pattern, because Alex is a habitual liar.
Loves to lie.
jordan holmes
And as somebody who is not a weird 1930s man-child, I've talked with my partner many times about her menstrual cycle, and there are many different variables that can make it early or late or heavy or light or whatever it is you want to do.
It can change.
It's an ongoing process.
It's not like, hey, it didn't happen on the 22nd, so we're all fucked, you know?
dan friesen
Yep.
So, look.
I don't even know how to introduce this clip because it's just fun.
Alex makes a fun threat.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This is...
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
It's one thing to rush the shot out because you believed it would save the people and help end the lockdowns.
But now that you know that Fauci signed you onto a fraud, you must extricate yourself from this lie or you will be forever known as the MVVP.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
The most valuable vaccine pusher.
And the name Trump.
We'll be associated with pure evil.
jordan holmes
Boo!
dan friesen
There's no way that wasn't written ahead of time.
unidentified
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
That's a huge...
dan friesen
That was delivered so much like, I got this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I got this in my back pocket.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
unidentified
NVVP.
jordan holmes
I've seen too many comedians go up with a joke they knew couldn't fail and watch it fail and hear that exact same response.
dan friesen
I also think that if you're going to do this...
You've got to find a way to make MVP work.
You don't want to throw another V in there.
jordan holmes
You can't throw another V in there.
Otherwise, you're just creating a new acronym.
dan friesen
You're going to make up another acronym that just sort of sounds similar.
jordan holmes
I mean, you've got to figure out a way to put GOAT in there if you're going to do MVP with four letters.
You know, there's no point.
dan friesen
You're going to get an EGOT.
Extremely gluttonous.
jordan holmes
You're the greatest osteoporoidal.
Alimony avoider.
I got nothing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
See, that's why you have to prepare ahead of time.
jordan holmes
It's tough.
alex jones
I know.
jordan holmes
I should have written it out.
dan friesen
Acronyms are hard.
jordan holmes
They're tough to do off the dome.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex brings up an expert here that is supposed to convince Trump.
Yeah, take this seriously, baby.
alex jones
The inventor.
Of mRNA technology, Dr. Robert Malone has gone public for more than a year and a half, warning that his technology used to counter a cold virus would lead to serious blood clots and autoimmune disorders like ADE.
And now the hospitals are full across the Western world of double-vaxxed patients who are showing the exact signs of ADE.
dan friesen
There's no evidence that people are having ADE or antibody-dependent enhancement from COVID vaccines.
I've seen Alex try to present evidence of it, but none of it proves anything.
It's just headlines and maybe a tweet and faulty misrepresented studies.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I'll wait until he provides some evidence to make a conclusion on that.
As for Robert Malone, it's definitely not a consensus opinion that he's the inventor of mRNA technology.
He's been making that claim as he makes the rounds on all the anti-vex media outlets like InfoWars and Brett Weinstein's podcast Dark Horse, but it's not really fair.
He did some work in the late 80s that involved mRNA.
But there are studies you can find that predate his work using mRNA stuff, going back to at least 1978.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
People in the field seem to have the opinion that he was a part of the history of mRNA, but it's grandiose for him to call himself the inventor of the technology, as well as it being kind of disrespectful to all the other scientists that played a role in the gradual development.
It's fun, though, to call him the inventor of the technology, because then you get to play out that...
Fun, dramatic game where the guy who invented something that turned out to be deadly has to come out and try and stop the monster he created.
jordan holmes
It is a really great story.
It's fun.
It's really fun.
dan friesen
It digs deep into the human psyche.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but we all know that Robert Malone never would have become the MVP of bullshit about vaccines if it weren't for Stockton.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I made your eyes twist away for a second, and that was worth it.
dan friesen
I was trying to find a way to add in Hornacek.
I was having a difficult time.
Look, this shit runs deep on InfoWars.
This whole mentality.
Like, Alex seems to be a sucker for the narrative of, like, I've gotta fix the wrongs.
Like, if you recall, back when he was around, Dr. Group claimed that he was motivated to sell health products and cleanses to undo the damage that his father did because he allegedly invented saran wrap.
His dad did not invent saran wrap, and Robert Malone didn't invent mRNA technology.
But if you want to pretend those things are true, you get to present their stories as, like, comic book shit.
jordan holmes
What is more fucking apocryphal than the son trying to undo the damage of the father?
That's biblical!
dan friesen
Well, it's Star Wars.
jordan holmes
Yes, I was going a little bit deeper into the canon, but yes, it is true.
dan friesen
It's hero's journey shit.
jordan holmes
It's absolutely the monomyth.
dan friesen
So at this point, I was really confused because Alex was talking about Robert Malone, and then he starts talking about somebody else, but he doesn't say their name.
And it's really confusing.
I didn't cut this dishonestly or anything.
It's just shoddy pronoun reference.
jordan holmes
Just poor pronouns?
alex jones
Robert Malone has now issued an emergency warning to the parents of the world to not give their children the experimental mRNA injection.
One of the most respected names in the world concerning vaccine technology and is the former chief scientist at Pfizer over vaccines.
He has looked at every angle of this rollout, not just in the U.S., but across the world, and has concluded that it is a deliberate depopulation operation targeting humanity with infertility, blood clots, heart attacks, and more.
dan friesen
This is just confusing.
He started talking about Michael Yedon, but he didn't say his name.
There's no shift in the subject of the sentence.
It's fucked up.
jordan holmes
It sounded like it was almost edited out.
Because you have that cut right there, and you can hear the cut, and then he changes the subject.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And it's a little bit concerning.
dan friesen
I don't know why they would do that, though, because they'd then play a video that has Michael Yedon's name on it, so it's not like you have to censor that because he's going to sue them or something.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
And he's a wacky anti-vax guy.
Sure.
jordan holmes
There's no problem here.
I don't understand, but if there was an explanation that made sense...
dan friesen
You probably yelled a slur.
jordan holmes
Probably.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Cut that out.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
So Alex likes to cite Yidon as the former chief scientist at Pfizer, and typically will say that he was the chief scientist over vaccines.
This is a flagrant lie that's meant to inflate his credentials.
When Yidon was working at Pfizer, which he did, his title was Vice President and Chief Scientific Officer of the Allergy and Respiratory Unit of Pfizer.
He worked at the Pfizer plant in Kent, which was closed in 2011.
At that point, he decided not to try to find another job in the industry, but instead to forge his own path.
He convinced the higher-ups at Pfizer to allow him to work with some of their compounds, which they almost never do.
From his telling of it, quote, the key was in getting Pfizer to recognize that we could not pay cash for the assets, but we were willing to grant equity in exchange for their assignment while spinning the dream of therapeutic use in areas that at the time they had little interest in.
Essentially, we would create upside in which they'd share and they needed to do nothing but agree to our proposition, the alternative most likely being that everything would be lost.
Out of this initiative, he formed a biotech company called Ziarco, which almost entirely focused on dermatology, particularly two eczema drug candidates that they had gotten from Pfizer.
After showing a good deal of promise, largely surrounding a once-daily orally-administered eczema treatment called ZPL389, Ziarko was bought out by Novartis for an undisclosed Okay, great.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Great, great, great, great, great.
dan friesen
This is a pretty promising eczema drug.
jordan holmes
Hey, there's nothing better than an anti-vaxxer with a bill- $10 million!
dan friesen
Well, I mean, I don't think he would have gotten all of it.
jordan holmes
No, of course not.
dan friesen
And, yeah, I...
This doesn't turn out great.
jordan holmes
Oh, man, once you get past $10 million, all money's imaginary to me, so whatever.
dan friesen
So this deal that he made was largely based around the promise of this drug, ZPL389, and the potential that it had to become super profitable for Novartis.
However, if you flash forward to July 2021, you'll learn that this story did not end well.
The drug failed to perform in Phase 2A trials, and Novartis decided to abandon it.
And in the process, they took a hit of approximately $489 million.
jordan holmes
Wow!
dan friesen
They gave up almost half a billion dollars of sunk money.
jordan holmes
You got scammed!
unidentified
Wow!
dan friesen
But it did show some promise.
It's not like it was all a scam.
jordan holmes
It wasn't all a scam, but if you...
Yeah, I mean...
dan friesen
It was something that did not live up to the early indications.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And that's his business.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
This is the largest thing on Yidan's resume since 2011, and even prior to that, when he was working at Pfizer, he had nothing to do with vaccines or even infectious disease.
The nature of the work that he was doing and has done is intentionally being fudged in order to lend his words an unearned credibility.
He's made a bunch of completely unfounded COVID.
conspiracy claims in the past year or so, but there's no proof for any of it other than to point to his fake former job title and assume that if he was the former chief scientist for Pfizer, then he must know what he's talking about.
And again, it's the same thing.
It's the guy who's like turned against the company.
Totally.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Fucking storyline.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
Undoing a wrong.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Also, Alex claims that he's one of the most respected people in the world regarding vaccine technology, and that is an absolute lie.
Alex might respect Yidon a lot because he says what Alex wants to hear, but that doesn't mean that he has any standing on the subject in the real world.
Nonsense.
So we got, yeah, we got Yeadon and Malone.
Trump needs to get up on.
jordan holmes
If you weren't right about everything all the time, how can you get rich, Dan?
It's a meritocracy that we all know is 100% accurate.
If you have money, you're better than people who don't.
dan friesen
I've heard that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I've heard that before.
jordan holmes
It's just true.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex is doing like weird movie voices.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Trying to threaten Trump, basically.
alex jones
The world is watching, Trump.
The world is watching very, very carefully what you do right now.
Are you going to continue to sign your fate and our fate on to Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates and the Davos Group and the whole globalist UN agenda?
jordan holmes
Probably.
alex jones
Or will you stand up and be the hero so many of us believed you were and say no to this medical tyranny?
dan friesen
This is so dramatic.
jordan holmes
Probably not.
dan friesen
This is Christmas?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
This is sad.
jordan holmes
That is great.
That is really great.
You know, I bet it's more fun to live in a high-stakes movie for your Christmas day.
dan friesen
What was it three years ago he was drunk throwing hatchets around the studio?
He's on top of the world.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is more fun than...
dan friesen
This is much better.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
Come on, Alex.
jordan holmes
Man, gotta throw hatchets.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I miss that.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Those days may be over.
jordan holmes
I mean, or they may be more malicious.
dan friesen
Well, sure.
unidentified
There may be more hatchets coming.
jordan holmes
I don't think they'll be as light and fun.
dan friesen
They won't be thrown at a camera because you can't afford to take that kind of cake.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
As before.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Good.
So, anyway, Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates.
They like to bite, but they bit off more than they can chew this time.
jordan holmes
Oh no!
alex jones
This house of cards is coming down.
Klaus Schwab, Peter Daszak, Bill Gates, Anthony Fauci, they all bit off more than they can chew.
We know they premeditated this whole Operation Lockstep takeover.
The evidence is clear.
They tricked you to sign on to this.
I get it.
You wanted to be the hero.
You wanted to get the vaccine out there to get the economy moving again.
I saw how you were deceived.
But now, you are clearly signing on to this lie.
And that's why it's so important that this be on the public record, that you were warned, and that you were conscious, and that you made a decision.
dan friesen
Okay.
I don't know what a difference that's going to make.
jordan holmes
I mean, can you imagine Trump caring about any of this?
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
That dynamic gets a little bit, I would say, too obvious as this report goes on.
Because he's just kind of imploring Trump to do something that Trump is never going to do.
alex jones
President Trump, there's not much time left for you to turn back.
Across the world, children are being injected with dangerous gene therapies that erase their immune systems and give them chronic illness.
President Trump, you don't want this to be your legacy.
You don't want to be the person that was tricked by Fauci into launching this big pharma takeover and who later, when confronted with the facts, decided to be a coward and to double down, betting on the corporate system, betting on big pharma, betting on the UN and the Build Back Better Great Reset Agenda of Klaus Schwab.
Don't throw in your lot with Bill Gates.
Don't throw in your lot with Klaus Schwab.
Stand with the people of America and the world.
Stand with the children.
Come out and tell the public that you were lied to.
Call for Fauci's arrest.
unidentified
Get on the right side of history.
dan friesen
Trump or fool him into getting these vaccines made but leaving that aside if there's one thing I can't imagine ever happening it's Trump coming out and saying that someone fooled him.
He and Alex are running a pretty close race in terms of who the bigger narcissist is and Trump's ego would never allow him to look that weak in public.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That said, this is a really fun way for Alex to present his point.
He can do this blowhard shit about how time is running out for Trump to turn back and pretend that he's talking directly to Trump so when Trump inevitably does nothing, Alex can pretend that he actually directly rejected Alex's plea to stand with the people.
It's on the public record.
jordan holmes
It's ironic that this is a Christmas message because it does remind me of, like, if Santa had been bribed to not deliver...
Presence this year.
And Alex is like, you gotta think of the children, Santa.
If you don't do this this year, it'll never happen again.
You gotta change your mind.
There's nothing more valuable than the children, Santa.
dan friesen
We gotta make this movie.
unidentified
Alex saves Christmas?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So at this point, this video's getting a little annoying for me because it's so obviously meant to be for the audience while pretending to be a warning to Trump.
It feels to me like this is an attempt to soft launch turning Trump into a villain on the show while doing so in a way where hopefully people in Alex's audience who still support Trump won't turn on Alex.
He's a man stuck between two extremist communities that he's helped cultivate.
The Trump idolaters and the anti-vax lunatics.
And now he's in the unenviable position of trying to thread the needle in a way that retains as much of his revenue stream as possible without alienating too much of either side.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
That's, um...
Good bad luck.
jordan holmes
There's no way that you're going to convince hardcore Trumpers that Trump is now evil.
dan friesen
It would be tough.
jordan holmes
And there's no way you're going to convince people who think that vaccines are killing everyone that it's okay for Trump to be like, vaccines are great!
dan friesen
Well, you've gone too far down the road of the vaccines are killing everybody that there's nobody who could support vaccines that you could...
Keep your support for it.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Like, if Ron Paul came out and was like, everybody get the booster.
jordan holmes
Come on, buddy.
dan friesen
Alex would have to be like, well, Ron Paul was a great patriot, but he's too old now, he's lost his mind.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Something like that.
You'd have to lose whoever.
It doesn't matter.
Alex's dad could be in favor of vaccines.
jordan holmes
You can't sign on to a genocider.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
There's no mitigating committing genocide.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, if you're at all a human.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And I think that Alex's audience...
If there are Trump hangers-on that are still around, I think that they could accept this presentation of Alex turning on Trump.
It wouldn't be too hard for them to accept, oh, that's why.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Syria wasn't going to do it.
It's not enough.
Dropping a big bomb is too much of a hard-on maker for all of these people to do that.
Genocide is a different story.
dan friesen
I just want to say this, too.
I've been seeing some people posting that video from back when Alex got really drunk and started screaming out, Fuck Trump!
When he didn't know that he was being recorded before he went live.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that was like years old.
And it's being posted with the implication that it's current.
And I just, I kind of, I wanted to say, Calm it down.
unidentified
He doesn't even have a beard in that video.
dan friesen
Come on.
jordan holmes
You don't need help to make him look like a piece of shit.
dan friesen
No, definitely not.
So, Alex, man, he's got more threats about Trump's legacy.
jordan holmes
Oh boy, I love an empty threat.
alex jones
Any way you slice it, from every angle.
The globalists have bit off more than they can chew.
And their attempt to take over the planet using this medical scare that's in the Rockefeller Foundation's own documents, Operation Lockstep, is destined to fail.
There isn't much time for you to turn back, Trump.
If you only care about yourself, then understand this.
Your legacy will be that of a monster.
Your legacy will be that of a eugenicist.
Your legacy will be that of a child killer using medical tyranny.
There's still time for you to turn back.
dan friesen
As we've discussed over and over again, Operation Lockstep isn't a real thing.
It's a lie about a Rockefeller document and basically just traces back to a meme.
While I was listening to this, the sense that I came away with is that Alex is trying to threaten Trump.
Essentially, what's happened is that the two of them don't agree on the issue of the vaccine, and on some level, I suspect that Alex knows that the supposed evidence he's presenting is shit, so the last option left to try to get Trump to help him expand the grift is to extort him.
Alex isn't saying that if Trump doesn't change his tune on vaccines, the natural result of that is that Trump's legacy will be that of a monstrous baby killer.
He's saying that if Trump doesn't change his tune on vaccines, Alex will start yelling about how Trump is a monstrous baby killer.
That's what's going on.
unidentified
Alex, Alex, if Congress doesn't do what I tell them to do, I know a lot of dirt.
jordan holmes
I know a lot of dirt.
I'll just blackmail Congress.
dan friesen
The subtext and text of this video is that the warning Alex is giving Trump is a warning that he's going to turn his audience against Trump if he doesn't do what Alex wants him to do, and he'll do it by calling him a monstrous baby killer.
unidentified
No!
dan friesen
This is meaningless, and it's going to go nowhere for a couple reasons.
First, the Trump cult world doesn't really need Trump himself anymore.
It'll take some effort to build up a new demagogue for them to rally around, but the physical person of Trump isn't really that necessary.
If he goes against the pillars of the constructed dogma that they've made, then they'll have to choose whether they're more invested in Trump as a person, or the COVID conspiracies and anti-vex bullshit they've based their identities on for the last year or so.
I suspect that most would choose the latter, and you can see the similar dynamic play out in the QAnon world, where they don't even really need Trump anymore, even though their ideology was based on the idea that Trump was the anointed savior who's gonna release the swarm.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The storm.
jordan holmes
It is funny, the framing that we dealt with for so long, and especially in the campaign for Trump to become president, is who is this guy?
Why is this guy?
This guy?
This guy always.
When in reality, he was only an avatar that was almost generated from the swamp of misery and hatred that was already there.
And he was simply a conduit for it to express itself.
dan friesen
It's like a weapon.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
So the second reason this is going nowhere is because...
jordan holmes
That's a way shorter way of saying exactly what I said way long.
dan friesen
The second reason this is going nowhere is because the solution for Trump would be to give in to the demands of these people who are threatening to turn on him in an attempt to preserve his base.
That would be what Alex is kind of hoping he'll do.
This would make Trump look super weak, which in effect eliminates the thing that makes him appealing to the base in the first place.
He was their strongman who was going to fight against their imaginary evil enemies, so if he shows himself to be weak enough to take a threat like this seriously, you'd probably get Alex not to talk shit about him, but the appeal that he held as a strongman leader is essentially destroyed, rendering him more or less useless.
This is never gonna...
jordan holmes
I want to be your president, and I have made it very clear I am subservient to Alex's whim.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He frightens me.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I don't want Alex to be mad at me.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's not a good campaign rallying cry.
dan friesen
Certainly not.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
This whole thing feels really similar to Alex lashing out at Rogan back when he called him a sneaky snake.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he threatened to gut him like a pig because Rogan wouldn't let Alex back on his show.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
And he was saying that Alex had lied to him about what he had said about Sandy Hook.
In that case, Rogan backed down and gave in to Alex's demands, possibly motivated by a misguided belief that they have a meaningful friendship.
In doing so, he lost control of the narrative.
Alex now more or less owned the image of Joe Rogan for his audience, and Rogan inexorably tied his own public image to Alex's.
I don't think that the full consequences of that decision have really even befallen Joe yet, but I don't think it's going to look good in hindsight for him.
So yeah, Alex is kind of hoping Trump will do that, and he never will.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Trump is never going to see this message, and even if he did, he wouldn't give a shit about Alex's meaningless threats that are being passed off as a warning.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It doesn't matter.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Rogan only responded like that because he ostensibly believes them to be friends.
dan friesen
I think that probably was a part of it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think Rogan's also the shithead.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well.
dan friesen
And maybe he's a little bit weaker than he likes to appear publicly.
jordan holmes
Or he just has a misplaced sense of empathy for a weird lunatic reaching out to him crying in pain.
dan friesen
I think that's the most generous interpretation.
jordan holmes
I'm doing my best to be generous and I don't know why.
I think Rogan's a giant piece of shit.
dan friesen
So here is how this report ends.
And it's stupid.
alex jones
Regardless of what President Trump does, we the people of America and the world understand what's happening.
dan friesen
Wait, why did you say President Trump in the third person?
I thought this was a warning to Trump.
What's going on here?
alex jones
And we are going to continue to educate others that aren't informed.
And we are going to continue to politically and culturally and economically and spiritually mobilize to stand against this one-world government medical tyranny, cashless society, medical ID, social credit score, carbon tax system for being able to take over our lives and dominate us and convert us from once free peoples into slaves.
Regardless of what Trump does, we have already chosen to tell the truth and to take action against these tyrants.
Now Trump simply needs to decide which side he's going to be on.
unidentified
*thud*
alex jones
There are things the enemies of humanity don't want us to know.
There are secrets they want to keep.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Alright.
And I've made it my life mission to expose those secrets and empower humanity.
Oh boy.
And I've made my greatest discovery yet.
Join me there as humanity goes the next level.
jordan holmes
Don't do it.
God damn it!
dan friesen
So yeah, I think in terms of Trump picking a side, I think he has.
I think he's already chosen that.
It's pretty clear that he believes in the vaccine and the booster, and he just thinks that people shouldn't be forced to get it.
jordan holmes
I guess.
I don't even know.
What does he actually think?
Who cares?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's just saying bullshit out of his ass.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Always.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So who cares?
dan friesen
Also, I think there's a real strong tell here that this isn't a message directed at Trump, and that's the fact that it ends with a three-minute commercial for Reset Wars.
jordan holmes
Well, there's that.
dan friesen
Feels kind of like pretending you're talking directly to Trump that's just a pathetic marketing ploy to make your audience feel like they're listening to something important and you're putting it on the record.
In reality, you're just talking shit.
jordan holmes
No, there's nothing quite like an open letter on a blog with a thousand subscribers to really bring home to whoever is getting that open letter.
unidentified
You bet.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we leave the, I don't know, I was going to say warm waters of...
unidentified
Warm...
dan friesen
The Christmas special.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Trying to threaten Trump into going along with Alex's own agenda.
jordan holmes
I will say it wasn't Rankin and Bass's best work, as far as Christmas specials go.
But, I mean, the claymation was still incredible.
dan friesen
Was this on the level of a Muppet Christmas character?
jordan holmes
No, absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
So we get to the 29th now, and...
This show starts out hot.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Hot.
jordan holmes
Straight out.
alex jones
Flaming hot.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
Here's the beginning.
alex jones
I start basically every show the same way because I just go with where my mind is, where my soul is.
I spend, let's not exaggerate, up to seven hours a day researching.
That's on average.
So I got a screen time deal on my face, on my desktop, and then on the phone.
iPad, so it's about seven hours a day of reading, just on computers.
And I spend a lot of time reading stuff that's been printed off computers, so it's more than that.
Probably eight, nine, ten hours a day.
And I don't say that to impress you.
I say that to give you the bad news.
We're dead already.
dan friesen
Oh boy.
alex jones
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
Oh shit.
Because I've read things printed off of computers, I got bad news for you.
I got bad news for you.
dan friesen
Bad news.
jordan holmes
We're dead already.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
jordan holmes
Oh, fuck.
Wait, are we philosophically dead already?
dan friesen
Well, that's interesting.
jordan holmes
That's kind of more my question.
dan friesen
Right.
I'm fascinated that that's your question.
And we'll get to why.
But I think that that was the last thing I expected to be the follow-up to I do all this studying and a little bit of a pause, and then we're dead already.
jordan holmes
We're dead already.
dan friesen
You're asking about the philosophically dead thing, and Alex does clarify a little bit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
We're dead already.
And I only say that so that I can get your attention.
Boo.
So that we can make provision for what's about to go down.
Because that's a true statement.
But the question is, how dead do you want to be?
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
See?
jordan holmes
That is not...
That's not the question!
dan friesen
But it is kind of a philosophical death.
How dead do you want to be?
Yeah, you can be part dead.
jordan holmes
I'm only mostly dead.
dan friesen
Right.
I don't understand there being gradients to death.
I guess Alex thinks that if things are going bad, you're like a quarter dead.
jordan holmes
I mean, if you're on dialysis, in a way you could describe part of you as dead, is that more dead than not?
dan friesen
Or if you have frostbite, really bad frostbite, and your foot dies or something.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Your foot's dead.
jordan holmes
I feel like maybe that's giving your foot a certain anthropomorphism that might not be okay.
But then again, all molecules have consciousness, Dan.
dan friesen
I did hear that from Reset Watch.
I do think that I have an answer, and that is I'd like to be not dead.
How dead do you want to be?
Not dead at all.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Wouldn't it give you a sense of comfort to know that whatever happens in the present has already happened and you are already dead?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
So, Alex is in a mood.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I can tell.
dan friesen
And I think a bit of it is maybe understandable.
Maybe some of it is not.
And a little bit of it comes down to some of his personal business that's being reported.
alex jones
How many times in the last 22 months, now almost 23, this is since February of two years ago, how many times have I said this is an organized collapse of civilization and the destruction of confidence in our governments, in our institutions, and in our currencies, and in our churches, and in our families?
jordan holmes
Word for word?
alex jones
China was the number one story, it turns out, in the world.
Not Russian troops in the U.S. threatening to attack Russia and Ukraine.
That was the number one story.
Not China threatening to invade Taiwan over the weekend.
The number one story in the world, according to Google and Yahoo, was Alex Jones' wife mixing up medication and blacking out and attacking herself, police, you name it, and having to be restrained.
It's a tragedy.
It's sad.
It's out of control.
It's an issue I've got to deal with.
I've been dealing with.
But that's not the number one story in the world.
Number one on Reddit.
Number one on Twitter.
Number one on Google.
Number one on Instagram.
unidentified
Number one in the world.
alex jones
Alex Jones' wife on Christmas Eve going to jail because it makes the family look bad.
Because it makes...
Christmas looked bad because it's an attack on the people.
dan friesen
This is really stupid.
Alex is a high-profile media figure, so it's not really surprising that there would be a ton of stories about his wife getting arrested for domestic violence on Christmas Eve.
This isn't an attack on the family or Christmas.
That's just the way Alex is trying to shift the conversation into being about his grandiose ideas of his own martyrdom.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
While I definitely don't agree with Alex about that nonsense, I do think that people didn't do a great job with the story.
And that possibly there was a bit of schadenfreude that people were expressing at the idea of Alex being the target of domestic violence.
And I think that's not cool at all.
Making fun of victims of domestic violence is...
You know, we understand, even if they're assholes, that's not appropriate, and can easily result in the shaming, stigmatizing, and triggering of other victims.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Certainly a good enough reason to not play that game.
jordan holmes
No, without all or any of the information, because that's kind of the point of my position on the show, I tweeted out a dumb joke, and then I read about it and deleted that dumb joke.
Jesus Christ, I had no fucking clue!
All I got was Alex got beat up.
Very funny to me.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
The rest of it, not funny.
dan friesen
No.
unidentified
Not funny.
dan friesen
Without the relevant details.
jordan holmes
No, it's fucked up.
dan friesen
Or any of the details.
Totally.
jordan holmes
And it just forces people to relive their own bullshit.
And it's fucked up.
dan friesen
And I can appreciate you taking some sort of ownership and responsibility of having made a bad joke.
jordan holmes
No interest in...
Fuck that.
No.
dan friesen
Not fun.
But this isn't about scolding you.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
I think that people who had far more information at their disposal made decisions that were some bad coverage.
And this puts me in a bit of a strange situation because I typically try to avoid covering things that are personal matters for Alex, but here he's really putting his business out on the streets.
Which makes me uncomfortable.
I thought about it, and I'm not going to spend time on this story unless there's some sort of a major development with it.
I just wanted to bring it up here briefly to make sure that people don't think I haven't heard about it and send me a hundred links, and to chime in publicly that I don't support a fair amount of the coverage and commentary that is going on about this story.
Also, some of the commentary that I don't support about it comes directly from Alex on his own show, and that's kind of tough for me to ignore.
I hate this position.
jordan holmes
Not a good situation.
dan friesen
No, and I feel very, you know, my heart goes out to those kids.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
So, what I'd rather spend time with is stories and news and...
Lies that Alex tells about important issues like vaccines.
alex jones
So I've got all this incredible news.
I've got mainline studies, top pathologists confirming 93% of people who died after being vaccinated were killed by the vaccine.
I've got just bombshell after bombshell after bombshell after bombshell.
dan friesen
So this is just another thing that Alex is pulling from Steve Kirsch's stub stack.
This post is dog shit.
It's about a study that Kirsch apparently found because Michael Yedon sent him a link to a bit shoot video about it.
This is a non-peer reviewed paper which was published by a group called Doctors for COVID Ethics.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Doctors for COVID ethics should be very much another red flag of, like, an innocuous name hiding the most obvious evil.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
One of the founding signatories of the group is Michael Yedon, who sent Steve Kirsch the paper.
And, of course, one of the other founding signatories of the group is Sukharit Bakhti, who's one of the two researchers credited in this paper.
This is a clearly unverified piece of work being done by an anti-vax outlet being masqueraded as an actual study.
jordan holmes
You're mistaking it.
It's clearly synergy, Dan.
dan friesen
I believe that.
This isn't a study at all.
If anything, it's an attempt at a persuasive essay.
We herewith present scientific evidence that calls for an immediate stop to the use of gene-based COVID-19 vaccines.
We first lay out why the agents cannot protect against viral infection.
If this were actually a legitimate study about whether or not deaths that occurred after vaccination were caused by the vaccination, this wouldn't necessarily be a topic that was germane to the paper.
This is anti-vax advocacy, which isn't surprising because it was written by an anti-vax advocate and being pushed on another anti-vax advocate substack.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's almost nice of them to lay out their conflict of interest up top.
Here's why we're going to tell you what's bullshit and then give you the bullshit.
dan friesen
So what this completely unverified paper did was it looked at 15 deaths, and it claims to have done histopathological analysis on their organs, but weirdly, there's literally no data provided.
Even so, we're to take their word that they proved that the vaccines caused these people to have heart attacks.
Honestly, I'm just guessing that that's the point because the causes of death for these people aren't even listed.
Just that 14 out of the 15 had hearts that were affected in some way that they deemed to be proof of their predetermined conclusion.
The closest you get to data is a list of some demographic information about the people whose organs they allegedly analyzed.
One of them was a 95-year-old woman who died 68 days after getting the vaccine.
She was almost 100 years old and there's over two months in between.
And my first thought is this seems a little thin.
Similarly, there's another patient who is an 89-year-old woman who died six months after getting the vaccine.
Two of the people in their subject pool died an unknown number of days after vaccination.
They don't even know when they got vaccinated.
jordan holmes
Well, you don't need to know, Dan.
You know that the vaccine's evil.
dan friesen
Totally.
And two of them, they don't even know which vaccine they got.
It's not even specified.
jordan holmes
It's not important.
They got a vaccine, and the vaccine kills them.
Maybe it was the MMR vaccine.
You don't know.
unidentified
They're dead.
dan friesen
This isn't a study.
This would never pass any kind of critical review.
There are other doctors and researchers doing histological examinations on people who have died after vaccination, and they aren't coming up with anything close to this kind of result, and generally those papers actually have data and aren't just like, Come on!
jordan holmes
Come on!
Come on, you know they're bad.
Real bad.
You know they're bad.
Come on!
dan friesen
Real, real bad stuff here.
jordan holmes
I do like...
dan friesen
I love the idea that this is so thin, so dumb, and Steve Kirsch is out there promoting it as if it's like, well, this proves it.
93% of people who die after getting the vaccine is...
jordan holmes
It is so funny to me.
That if you're going to cherry pick that bad, they're doing the 97% voted for Putin thing.
They're like, listen, 14 out of 15. I'm not going to say that everybody dies who get the vaccine.
We all know that would be ridiculous.
I'm just saying, more than 90%!
dan friesen
Slight clarification.
It's 93% of the people who do die afterwards, it was because of the vaccine.
93% of the people who get the vaccine dying would be...
Staggering numbers.
The thing that I have more difficult time is, like, this is the thinnest of soups.
And it's just yet another in a long string of thin soups that are being presented by Steve Kirsch.
And yet he's going to get to try again.
People aren't going to be like, shut up, man!
Get out of here!
jordan holmes
It's homeopathic broth it's so thin.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's...
I want a little bit more.
I want a chunky soup.
That's what I want.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I want a stew.
Give me a stew.
dan friesen
Actually, I don't want a stew.
jordan holmes
Give me big chunks of beef.
unidentified
No, no, no.
dan friesen
Too thick.
jordan holmes
Too thick?
I don't want a chili.
I'm talking about a good stew, man.
dan friesen
I do want a chili.
jordan holmes
Get out of here.
dan friesen
Chili dogs.
jordan holmes
You love beans.
dan friesen
No, actually, beanless chili, generally.
jordan holmes
Beanless chili?
alex jones
Yep.
dan friesen
More of a Texas chili.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
New York City!
dan friesen
I do not like paste picante sauce.
But this is the end of civilization, my friend.
And we know that because Alex has a lot of stacks of news.
jordan holmes
Obviously.
alex jones
Here's what you need to know.
This is the end of civilization as you know it.
Every day we're on air is a blessing.
Every day you've got even electricity and food and water is a blessing.
I'm not trying to scare you.
I love you.
and you need to get ready.
unidentified
Thank you.
jordan holmes
Okay.
For what?
Death?
alex jones
I mean, we are in the middle of the New World Order.
We're in the middle of the Mark of the Beast takeover.
We are in the middle of the foretold great nightmare.
I mean, look at this stack.
You see this stack?
This is one stack.
This is one stack here out of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31 stacks.
Not counting the video list.
jordan holmes
That's my favorite number of flavors.
alex jones
And the reason I show you all this is it's impossible to cover their attacks on you and your family.
dan friesen
Buzz marketing for Baskin Robbins.
Yeah, look, hey dude, I would say, first of all, congratulations, we've proven you know how to count.
That's good.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would like independent confirmation on there being actually 31 stacks there.
dan friesen
I didn't watch the video, but I believe it.
I've seen how much paper he generally has on the task.
That's true, that's true.
Obscene.
I hope he recycles.
Sure, there's 31 stacks of articles in front of you.
Who cares?
There's too much to cover.
Agreed.
Just do one well.
Just do one story well.
Stay on topic.
Dig into the details.
That's your job.
jordan holmes
I can't trust you with one piece of paper, let alone with a stack of it.
dan friesen
No, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
You gotta earn a stack.
dan friesen
And Alex gets into these stacks.
It's chaos.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
They aren't thematically connected.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
They're just...
jordan holmes
You might as well be just grabbing random bits of paper.
dan friesen
I find the grouping of stacks to be chaotic and just random.
jordan holmes
I mean, if you want a large number, go with flashcards.
Flashcards are the way to go because we know that most of those pieces of paper at most have a tweet on them.
Put it on a little note card.
dan friesen
Jordan, I agree, but my point is this.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
There are 31 stacks of paper, but it's arbitrary why any of them are in any stacks.
So to me, that is one stack of paper.
jordan holmes
Entirely.
unidentified
That you've divided 31. That is just one big old stack.
jordan holmes
Is there any label on the stack?
Like, this is the lie stack.
This is the Chuck Schumer stack.
dan friesen
So here we go.
We're going to get into the first stack.
alex jones
Let me show you.
This first stack isn't going to break.
This stack right here.
You knew this was coming?
I told you over a thousand times until my lips cracked.
COVID tsunami will drive health systems towards collapse.
WHO, we need trillions.
We need UN control.
Just say it.
The healthcare system has collapsed.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Always part of the plan.
jordan holmes
It was a bad healthcare system.
alex jones
Oh, coming up!
Helping you navigate the apocalypse, this is the Infowar.
dan friesen
Hell yeah.
So this was a story, this stack, this piece of the stack.
He doesn't actually really get into the actual article in any greater detail than he just did there.
And this is a story that was taken from the AFP Newswire, but I can tell that Alex is reading this headline from when it was posted on NDTV.com, which is a news site primarily about India.
India News.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Seems like a strange place for him to get a headline.
jordan holmes
A little bit.
You might have to have gone looking for it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Anyway, the underlying article doesn't say anything about needing tons of funding or that the UN should take over and invade healthcare systems.
It's just kind of a sad list of things that countries are trying to do to limit the spread of infection as the looming threat of hospitals being completely overwhelmed happens.
Like Germany's shutting down nightclubs and Greece banned music in bars and restaurants until January.
jordan holmes
I do like that kind of, hey listen, we're not going to close down bars.
No music!
dan friesen
We're not going to close it down, but we're going to make it less fun to hang out.
jordan holmes
We're going to make it annoying.
We're going to make it weirdly quiet.
dan friesen
This headline was itself actually written by NDTV, which is clearly stated on their website.
Quote, except the headline, this story has not been edited by NDTV staff and is published from a syndicated feed.
All Alex operates off is headlines, because the stuff that he's saying never really has anything to do with the body of the articles he covers.
So actually, in reality, what he's doing is basically creating an entire narrative based on the editorial decisions of an Indian news website that he probably doesn't even know exists.
This is fascinating levels of stupidity.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
Because he riffs just basically on headlines...
Who knows who wrote most of these headlines?
jordan holmes
I mean, it's almost a fascinating glimpse into something that I would never have thought of.
Like that idea of just, God, I need someone else to write the thing that I want to riff off of, so I'm just going to go digging.
dan friesen
Maybe, or maybe it's just the first one they found.
jordan holmes
That's also a possibility.
Occam's razor would suggest they didn't dig.
dan friesen
I don't know how much digging was done.
jordan holmes
That's right.
dan friesen
But if you take this headline, you're just going to be able to spitball on it.
And what you're doing is really just using the basis of the editors of that website as evidence of the globalist plans, which is...
Ridiculous.
jordan holmes
He should send them some flowers or something.
dan friesen
The Indian website?
jordan holmes
Yeah, he should send them a box of chocolates.
dan friesen
If he did that with all the people he lied about, he'd be running out of chocolate.
We'd be in chocolate shortage.
jordan holmes
We wouldn't have to deal with raptors anymore.
dan friesen
Look, my friend.
Damn the raptors.
We have stacks.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So Alex decides he's going to read all the stacks.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This is a bad idea.
jordan holmes
Alright, here we go.
unidentified
Here we go.
dan friesen
Real quick, it's really awesome that he's playing the Mission Impossible theme song.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Somebody knows what's up.
dan friesen
This is an impossible mission he's embarking on.
alex jones
I'm going to try right now to hit headlines.
I'm going to come back.
And hit some of the most insane gaslighting ever.
dan friesen
This stack will self-destruct.
jordan holmes
Some of the most insane gaslighting ever.
alex jones
About Bill Gates and Anderson Cooper.
Because a six-month-old clip of them saying, take away people's social security that don't take the injections, they say it as clear as day.
Reuters, run by Pfizer, literally, said it's not real.
Again, we all know they've been all over TV saying, "Don't let you leave your house.
Take your kids away." It's really pretty amazing to me that Alex somehow thinks that if he's able to read off all the headlines in his stacks that his interns have printed out for him, that's going to be an accomplishment, or that he will have proven anything.
dan friesen
It's interesting, in a way, like, it might be fun to play some wagers about whether or not he gets through them, but ultimately, who cares?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Most of the headlines are going to be about the same story from different websites, like how the NDTV article was just an AFP story with an in-house headline.
It's going to be most of what he's got to cover.
There we go.
jordan holmes
Those people, usually.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Another thing, too, is it's a dangerous precedent for Alex to be fucking around with, where he believes that a journalist asking a question is the same thing as them advancing a position, because I would like to point to his entire career.
Where he actually does do that quite a bit.
jordan holmes
And certain things that he might be getting sued over.
dan friesen
So, also, Alex is just making up that Pfizer owns Reuters because it seems like something that makes his argument sound more convincing and like it's something he could probably slip past the audience.
Reuters is owned by Thompson Reuters Corporation, which is majority owned by the Woodbridge Company.
Pfizer is its own company and it has nothing to do with these other entities.
It's just like there's a board member of Pfizer.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's just...
jordan holmes
I mean, when you have so many parent companies and subsidiaries and this guy's on the board of this and on the board of that and all of this stuff, you can tell somebody, oh, this is owned by some company and there's like, I can't look into it.
And it might be, so fuck it.
I don't know.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, your mission.
jordan holmes
Should I choose to accept it?
dan friesen
Playing the role of Alex, should you choose to accept it, is to read your stacks.
jordan holmes
Never.
dan friesen
Let's dig into the stacks.
jordan holmes
I failed.
alex jones
You know, I always start on my right side, because this is always the top stuff.
This is what I always tend to get to, is this strata of stacks.
But let's just do something different.
Let's just go over here.
Here, let's just read these headlines.
New York governor drops COVID-19 requirements for transportation workers, citing cruise shortages.
Aaron Rodgers, science that can't be questioned is propaganda.
It's more than propaganda.
It's tyranny.
Rand Paul, thousands dying every month because of Fauci's obsession with pushing vaccines.
He's starting to creep closer to the truth.
dan friesen
Alright, so we had three headlines into this, and no time spent on any of these stories whatsoever, and here's the breakdown.
One headline is about dropping of vaccine mandates in New York, which Alex should be in favor of, and kind of undercut some of his own main narratives about how they're going to force everyone to get vaccinated.
jordan holmes
Yeah, specifically he said that they were going to force everyone to get the vaccine, and this example is of people not forcing people to get the vaccine.
dan friesen
I would have left this out of the stack.
jordan holmes
Could have just tossed it.
dan friesen
Yeah, it doesn't really help the...
jordan holmes
Shorten your stack!
dan friesen
The next is a comment about science from...
jordan holmes
I mean, he's the all-time leader for the Packers in touchdowns thrown now, so it's like, you gotta trust him on the science.
dan friesen
He's also third on the science list in the Packers history.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Shannon Sharp.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I can't think of other Packers players.
Football was never one of my big...
jordan holmes
I think number one is obviously Lombardi himself.
Favre?
Favre's dropped down to four.
dan friesen
He played for the Packers.
jordan holmes
He was the most famous guy to play for the Packers.
dan friesen
Just making sure.
I told you, football's not my thing.
jordan holmes
I know, I know.
dan friesen
And then the third headline that Alex has, we rounded out with him tentatively giving it up to Rand Paul for talking shit on vaccines.
Like, this is the tip of the spear right here, man.
jordan holmes
It is.
Hey, Rand Paul said something.
The end!
dan friesen
Brett Favre played for other teams, though, too, right?
jordan holmes
Yes, later on in his career, he played for the Vikings.
dan friesen
See, that might have been where I got...
And he played for Wranglers.
jordan holmes
And he played for sending pictures of your dick places.
dan friesen
So, we got another headline.
Another stack.
alex jones
Oh, here's a big one.
This one's really important.
Heavens above, NASA endless priest to prepare for an alien discovery, the Times of London says.
Yep, Project Blue Beam.
It's one of their next big deals after the big fake cyber attack that's coming.
I mean, it'll turn your computer off and your internet off and turn your power off in most areas, but it's staged by them.
That's coming up.
dan friesen
So Alex is just misreporting this story because he just read the headline.
This is a story that was making the rounds recently, but it's actually about a program that was called Societal Implications of Astrobiology, which ran from 2015 to 2018.
The idea was that there was a bunch of religious scholars, and they'd meet up at the Center for Theological Inquiry at Princeton University and discuss how religious communities would respond to the discovery of alien life, should that ever happen.
The reason that there were headlines about this recently is because one of the theologians who took part, Reverend Andrew Davison, he's publishing a book about his experience.
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, in a certain...
He's kind of saying, listen, we can rationalize fucking anything.
Get the fuck out of here.
We're religion.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, I think it was...
I don't think it was the Pope, but someone high up in the Vatican made a similar comment a number of years back about, you know, there are ways that you can incorporate...
jordan holmes
It's no different than the original church suddenly finding out that there were aboriginal people in Australia.
How can they be subject to the same original sin if they've literally never heard of this bullshit?
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
I think it does introduce some challenges just theologically of if there are...
Aliens on another planet.
jordan holmes
Did God create others?
dan friesen
Did Jesus die for their sins?
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
There are complications, but apparently, I mean, I wasn't there at the Center for Theological Inquiry, and these people are obviously experts in their fields.
Sure.
If the takeaway for this dude who was there is that, hey, we can handle this.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is...
dan friesen
I'll take his word for it.
jordan holmes
It's a little bit like, and I know they would find it very sacrilegious for me to describe it as such, but it's a little bit like a writer's room for how are we going to deal with this.
A bunch of them being like, they're all tossing out ideas, like, how do we feel about this?
dan friesen
So the headline of it uses the word prepare, like they have the priest to prepare for an alien discovery, and that's not...
jordan holmes
Will God protect us from lasers?
dan friesen
Right, and so you go based on the headline, that's the way you could report the story.
If you read into what is actually going on, it's not preparing for alien discovery, it's inquiry into societal implications.
Also, Project Bluebeam isn't a real thing.
It was a wacky conspiracy theory a dude named Serge Monest popularized back in the 90s, which he probably cribbed from some stories written by Gene Roddenberry.
It's not real.
jordan holmes
I like this game that we're playing, though.
dan friesen
The stack game?
jordan holmes
Reading a headline and saying, see, I'm right.
It's a great game.
It would make me feel good.
You'd get that nice little bit of endorphin rush, just like, yeah, I'm right again.
dan friesen
Yeah, and it's fascinating that at the end of it, he probably is like, God.
Damn it, I was efficient today.
I was productive.
I read so many headlines.
jordan holmes
You know, I mean, you really would have to be a narcissist to enjoy that, though.
Because it's kind of like that Twilight Zone episode where if you always win at gambling, it gets boring.
But apparently if you're a narcissist and you always win at being right, it never stops being fun.
dan friesen
I don't think Alex is having much fun.
jordan holmes
No, that's fair, too.
That's fair, too.
dan friesen
I think he might be having a bit of a bad time.
jordan holmes
That's possible.
dan friesen
You ready for another stack?
jordan holmes
Yeah!
alex jones
Oh, look at this nice little stacky.
Stacky.
jordan holmes
Oh, get out of here.
alex jones
How dumb you gotta be to fall for media gaslighting still, says Anomaly on Twitter.
dan friesen
That's just a tweet.
jordan holmes
That's a stack?
dan friesen
It's a tweet.
jordan holmes
That goes in the stack?
unidentified
It's a tweet.
He printed out a tweet to put in the stack?
jordan holmes
Was it a screenshot, or did he type it out?
That's what I want to know.
dan friesen
I'm sure it was a screenshot.
jordan holmes
Is it 10-point aerial font, or is it a screenshot he printed?
dan friesen
It's a screenshot.
jordan holmes
Is it black and white, or is it color?
dan friesen
Probably black and white.
Probably with some highlighter somewhere.
Oh my god, this is dumb.
jordan holmes
What are the worst.
What a terrible idea.
dan friesen
Ready for another stack?
jordan holmes
Hell yeah, I am.
alex jones
Again, I'm just reading the top articles of each stack here.
China introduces AI prosecutor that can automatically charge citizens with a crime.
You want to know the future?
This is it.
dan friesen
This is an interesting story, and it's definitely a headline Alex can use to riff out all sorts of nonsense, but it's actually not as nightmarish as the headline might suggest.
So there's this AI program in China that's been trained using over 17,000 cases to be able to take a description of a particular case and determine if it fits the requirements of a specific crime.
Currently, it's only able to recognize the eight most common crimes that occur in Shanghai, but obviously over time, as technology progresses, you'd expect that number to go up.
The project's lead scientist, Professor Shi Yong, was clear that the AI doesn't take part in any of the actual decision-making about whether or not to file charges or come up with sentences.
That's all done by humans, because that process goes into those sorts of determinations is far more complicated than they have the capability to do.
There are reasons to be concerned about the possible ways this could go wrong, but Alex's coverage is...
Way off base.
And it's generous for me to even call this coverage, because he doesn't go into any detail about this.
He just does what he always does.
He reads the headline and makes shit up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Constantly.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is a little bit like Asscat.
dan friesen
Or the set list.
If all the varsity, junior varsity, junior varsity 2, and the next level players are all out.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
They're all out sick.
It's like ASCAT with one angry person who's not good at improv.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
Do you want another stack?
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
Stacky.
alex jones
So I'm at least reading the top article out of each stack.
Let's continue here.
With today's show headline, that's on Infowars.com.
WHO warns of global healthcare collapse that they triggered with COVID hysteria.
Meanwhile, Bill Gates and fellow Blue Blood, Anderson Cooper, promote taking Social Security from Americans who refuse the deadly gene therapy injections.
Tune in to this must-see broadcast when Alex Jones and leading computer scientist and investigative journalist Steve Kirsch as they expose the latest COVID tyranny developments, including the fact that 93% of people who died after being vaccinated were killed by the vaccine.
dan friesen
So one of the stacks was a tweet.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This stack on top of it is just the printout of the Infowars page that has an embedded video of the show that Alex is currently recording.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
What is going on here?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
Such a waste of paper.
jordan holmes
I do like how we've moved the goalposts from, I'm going to read all these stacks to, I'm reading the top one of each of these stacks.
dan friesen
Wow.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Come on, man.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Like I said, it's an impossible mission.
jordan holmes
It's a ridiculous idea.
unidentified
Can't do it.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we go to break, and when Alex comes back, he wants to let you know what the most important thing is.
This is critical.
jordan holmes
Reset Wars?
dan friesen
No.
Yes, but no.
Okay.
You need to understand this.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
That said, though.
I began to cogitate, to reflect, to really assess during the break what is most important out of everything I've got here in front of me to say, because you don't want to miss the forest for the trees.
And it's this.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Our problem is not Klaus Schwab.
Good start.
It's not Bill Gates.
Our problem is not Ted Turner or George Soros or Anderson Cooper, who's even richer than they are.
Our problem is not even Donald Trump.
Our problem is not Senator Paul.
jordan holmes
Give six more examples.
alex jones
Our problem is ours.
Because we're not...
Making the people that are on the fence that we've elected to be our representatives and our guardians do their damn jobs.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
It is your fault.
You have not convinced people of the dumb premises.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No, you got it.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
Yeah, man.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Yeah, you're starting to get it, buddy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's your fault.
Yes, it's your fault.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because your arguments suck.
jordan holmes
You're dumb.
No one gives a shit about you.
dan friesen
Almost everything you say is a lie or a manipulation or a misunderstanding.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Of course.
Yes, you have failed to convince.
A large portion of the public and the elected leaders that you think have your back who are using you for an easy voting block.
Yeah, so that is the most important thing.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, well done.
dan friesen
I just think he's learning the wrong lesson.
unidentified
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
I believe his lesson is, should I double down?
dan friesen
Well, it's actually, I think the lesson that he's getting to is the lesson that he learned from Christmas.
It's a Christmas miracle.
And that he has learned that Trump does not give a shit about his warnings.
jordan holmes
That is a Christmas miracle.
dan friesen
It's now been a couple days.
Trump doesn't give a shit.
And so I think Alex is just trying to adjust his expectations, move things over to Rand Paul a little bit.
alex jones
I believe Rand Paul's a good guy.
In fact, at a gut level, I know he is.
But he knows now this is a deadly gene therapy and killing people.
And he's still not attacking the shot.
He's just saying, hey, instead of saying the shot...
People really need vitamin C and vitamin D and zinc and iodine.
And he's out saying that.
He's in an interview saying, you know, obsessing on the vaccine that isn't really 100% kind of killing people.
You need to be healthy.
That's what Joe Rogan's saying.
But Joe's going all the way saying the shot's hurting people.
Rand Paul's not doing that.
And so I was thinking about this this morning when I woke up about 5 a.m.
I was like, am I right to be really going after Trump?
And I'm like, yeah, you are right to be going after him.
He knows what's going on.
Then I thought, Rand Paul's a medical doctor, and he's super smart.
And I've known the guy for 28 years.
And he knows damn well what's going on.
So, let me say this.
If I said Trump's either super ignorant or one of the most evil men to ever live to do this to his own people, and obviously I meant that to get Trump's attention.
I don't think he's ignorant.
I don't think he wants to be evil.
I just think he's lying to himself and rationalizing.
But regardless, we're still in the position we are.
Trump could come out against this, and we'd end this very quickly.
But what about Rand Paul, huh?
No, I don't want to break his ribs.
I don't want to shoot at him like a Democrat does.
In fact, I want to support him and campaign for him, and I hope he becomes president someday.
unidentified
Oh boy.
alex jones
But whatever calculus he's got...
Whatever math is going on in his head of why he's not coming out against this thing all the way when the numbers and the facts are 100% clear is a big problem.
And so I want to apologize to President Trump.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
alex jones
And that's backhanded, folks.
jordan holmes
Oh, Jesus.
alex jones
And that if I'm really mad at him, I should be a lot more mad at Senator Paul.
dan friesen
Yeah, I just get the sense that it's like, all right.
This Joe Rogan treatment for Trump isn't going to work.
Maybe I can bully Rand Paul.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
This is like a halftime show at a basketball game where they're like, okay, you win a million dollars if you can make this half-court shot.
You miss it.
Okay, you win $50 if you can make this three-point shot.
You miss it.
Okay, you win $5 if you make this free throw.
dan friesen
You know what else it's like?
Setting out to read all the headlines.
jordan holmes
And then moving the goalposts.
dan friesen
I'll just read the top ones.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I'll read about 15 of these.
dan friesen
It's setting out with something ambitious.
I'm going to bully the former president.
unidentified
You know what?
jordan holmes
I got distracted.
dan friesen
Yeah, that didn't work.
I'm going to go ahead and talk shit about Rand Paul.
jordan holmes
Eventually we're going to wind up at...
Derek from my grocery store will not condemn the vaccines!
dan friesen
And that is actually a serious problem.
Derek from the grocery store has quite a bit of sway among public opinion.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
There are lobbyists and then there's Derek from the grocery store.
dan friesen
Well, if you wrong Derek from the grocery store, he's gonna cut your meat too thick at the belly.
People cannot have that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Derek isn't even the manager at that grocery store.
dan friesen
But he still wields power.
jordan holmes
He's a great guy.
dan friesen
So Alex is talking about this, like, alright, maybe we should take aim at Rand Paul.
He makes a metaphor.
jordan holmes
A simile.
dan friesen
It's weird.
He compares the...
Bullying the politicians, or getting these politicians to fight the globalists for him, is similar to when he was a kid and someone stole his bike, his dad going over to talk to that kid's dad.
jordan holmes
Okay, so you're telling me that he's boiling global politics down to my dad could beat up your dad.
dan friesen
Bingo.
jordan holmes
There we go.
Okay.
alex jones
How do we stop this?
How do we...
Do we focus on Biden the puppet?
Do we focus on Bill Gates, which we've already done?
Do we attack the people behind it all?
Or do we go after, politically, peacefully, the people that say they represent us?
It'd be like if I was six, seven years old, and some bully from down the street who was like 14 took my bike away, kicked me off of it, and my dad didn't start a big fight with the guy's dad down the street.
They lived about 20 houses down.
jordan holmes
Why are you telling us this story?
alex jones
Which house is it?
Where is it?
But I went and knocked the door.
dan friesen
Real quick, we've got to recognize that this started out as a hypothetical.
unidentified
100% and now it's a literal story of a thing that happened.
Very weird.
jordan holmes
It would be like if this thing that happened happened.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
Some big meathead comes to the door and says, I want my son's bike back, please.
The guy kind of a little bit threatening.
And my dad just said, you're going to give me that bike right now.
Or you're going to get hurt.
And the guy listening went and got it.
But the point was, is that we're kind of like the kids here, you know?
We're the people, and then we elect these men to go represent us, and we're watching the globalists not steal our bike, but kill us!
dan friesen
So, I mean, this is basically exactly what you would expect in terms of Alex's belief of his relation to...
To leaders.
They're his dad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Who's gonna go pick his battles.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Fight for him.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's kind of an apt way to describe any desire for a paternalistic god king.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I want a daddy.
dan friesen
I don't think it's exactly how...
I do think there's something to be said for pressuring elected leaders to, you know, have policy sets that are more in line with...
You know, what you'd hope.
jordan holmes
And I mean, a good example of that, Jen Psaki comes out and is like, fuck you, we'll never send you tests.
And then a couple weeks later, they're like, okay, fine, we're going to send you a bunch of tests.
Sorry, it turns out we sounded like the assholes.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's public pressure that you can make.
There's, you know, run yourself.
Primary somebody.
There are things that are much more...
jordan holmes
Productive.
dan friesen
Well, productive and I think mature relationships with power.
This is a childish relationship with elected leaders and how Alex sees all these pieces fitting together.
That's not surprising.
It's just weird that he articulates it this way.
jordan holmes
I almost kind of see it in the inverse.
Whereas he describes our elected leaders similar to a father.
I see our elected leaders as being a bunch of petulant children with a lot of money arguing with each other about stuff that doesn't matter while they watch us die.
dan friesen
I think you're closer.
Maybe not full on.
jordan holmes
Not necessarily.
dan friesen
So Alex has decided Rand Paul maybe is a better target.
But that doesn't mean I'm not going to still try and...
jordan holmes
I gotta get that juice out of Trump.
dan friesen
Try and sneaky snake him still.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
alex jones
Yeah, we all wish Trump would do the right thing.
But listen, I got the inside baseball on Trump.
He doesn't know what's going on.
And I'm not even defending Trump.
I'm just saying we need to move on.
In fact, maybe, you know what?
To get Trump's attention, because I don't even get this from Roger Stone.
I get this from people directly in Trump's camp.
Maybe I should just dish all the dirt on.
jordan holmes
You know what?
alex jones
You know what?
I'm going to dish it all on Trump next hour.
I'm going to go ahead and do that.
And it's not to hurt Trump.
It's so people can know how pathetic he is when you think he's playing 4-D chess going to save you, and he's not.
He's not a bad guy.
But he doesn't know what he's doing, and he's surrounded by bad advisors.
He's got that multi-billion dollar social media network based on Mastodon that they said's an original program and doesn't even work, and there's all these SEC criminal investigations of it right now, and it's all falling apart.
I wish Trump could go build a real network.
jordan holmes
I want Trump to have success.
alex jones
I'm not against Trump.
Whoa.
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
jordan holmes
I wish Trump was a successful businessman, but it's all bullshit.
dan friesen
This is weird.
jordan holmes
This is very weird.
dan friesen
Because the clip started with him saying, we need to move on from Trump.
And then instead of doing that, he's like, I want to get his attention by talking shit and dishing dirt.
jordan holmes
I mean...
I think a great way to move on from Trump would be to reveal all of the shit that you've already known about him for the years that you've been lying about.
dan friesen
Yeah, but I don't actually think he has anything meaningful that he could reveal.
jordan holmes
Nothing that we don't already know.
dan friesen
Probably not.
jordan holmes
He's been a very public grifter for the past our entire lives.
dan friesen
Yeah, this sounds like a child lashing out because they don't get their way.
The news about the SEC looking into Trump's social media venture broke about, like, a month ago in outlets all over the place.
So, like, it doesn't seem like this counts as dirt.
I guess next hour in the show we'll see if Alex spills some tea.
jordan holmes
Give me some dirt!
dan friesen
Spoiler alert, it does not.
unidentified
Oh, that's not surprising.
dan friesen
It does not end up happening.
jordan holmes
That's not surprising.
dan friesen
This, like I said, is just a weak attempt at the Rogan treatment.
It's not going to work.
Trump doesn't care.
Like, Alex, take your own advice.
Move on.
I think bullying Rand Paul is a great idea.
He seems like a worm.
jordan holmes
I love bullying Rand Paul.
dan friesen
And it seems like a baby makes him headway with that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he seems easy to bully.
Yeah.
He's willing to roll over and show you his belly all the time.
dan friesen
His dad was on your show like a hundred fucking times.
He was on your show all the time.
Build up that.
Be like, I'm friends with your dad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
My dad will beat up your dad.
Right.
unidentified
It works.
dan friesen
Just move on from Trump.
This isn't going to work.
He doesn't give a shit.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
So Biden went on vacation, and there was a picture taken of him, and Alex wants to talk about that a little.
alex jones
And there he is vacationing in his native state, and he and his wife with a dog wearing masks alone on the beach.
Totally to create fear.
Totally to create hysteria.
Absolutely there to make you think that things are so dangerous.
The president of the United States can't go out on his private beachfront property with his new German shepherd puppy.
They killed the last one.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
alex jones
And breathe the air.
dan friesen
Alex is referring to Biden's dog, Champ, there, who died back in June.
I think Alex might need to substantiate the claim that Biden killed his dog, particularly considering the Champ was 12 years old, which is typically on the high end of normal dog lifespans.
Also, in terms of fear, pictures of Biden wearing a mask don't rank anywhere near what Alex does every day.
Plus, you have to understand how this is a rigged game.
Biden wears the mask and Alex can say it's a dishonest photo op meant to spread fear.
Biden doesn't wear the mask and Alex can say it's a perfect example of liberal hypocrisy.
How you have to wear the mask, but Lord Biden doesn't.
The game's rigged.
jordan holmes
It's a trap.
dan friesen
Yeah, doesn't matter.
Meaningless!
jordan holmes
There's no compromise, which it seems should have been very obvious in so many other avenues as well.
Like, say, negotiating over a bill with Republicans whenever you obviously know they're all going to vote no on it anyways.
dan friesen
You know, like McConnell's made statements of, we will do nothing.
jordan holmes
I will never, ever sit a Supreme Court justice during the final year of a presidency.
Yeah, he was fucking lying.
Everybody knows that.
dan friesen
It's challenging to negotiate with people who have explicitly made it clear they have no interest in negotiating.
jordan holmes
No, no.
dan friesen
And, you know, engaging with Alex's bullshit is fairly similar.
jordan holmes
Similar and stupid.
dan friesen
So, Biden's got a little policy that's going to go into effect regarding the border and vaccines.
And Alex really whiffs on this one.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And now the U.S. to mandate, you mean the globalists.
For all border crossers in January, not the illegals coming in, not the migrants, but anybody trucking stuff in, vice versa, including U.S. citizens, now to cross the border, you've got to have a shot.
Ah, see, the illegal aliens don't, but everybody else does, you see.
See how that works?
dan friesen
This is a great example of how stupid Alex is and how his laziness translates into lies.
If you just read the headline of this article, you might come away with some of the conclusions Alex comes to.
You'd need to be a super xenophobic bigot, and you'd still have to make up a few details, but this is within the realm of imagination if you don't actually look at the policy or the article at all.
From a U.S. News and World Report article on the policy, quote, The rules pertain to non-US nationals.
American citizens and permanent residents may still enter the US regardless of their vaccination status.
Alex legitimately and literally lied by making up that U.S. citizens need to be vaccinated to cross the border because doing so helps him create a feeling of animosity in his audience towards immigrants.
It becomes even more flagrant as an instance of misreporting when you realize that this is a month-old story.
He's had plenty of time to hear about it, look into it, get the details down, particularly considering how he does about 10 hours of research a day.
Also, beginning in October 2021, the CDC and the State Department announced new guidelines that require all immigrant visa applicants to receive a full COVID-19 vaccine series as part of their medical exam prior to being issued a visa.
The guidelines specifically say that if a visa applicant refuses to get vaccinated, they are inadmissible to the United States.
And even if there were like mostly folks sneaking into the country, a rule that they needed to be vaccinated would be totally meaningless and unenforceable.
What's being expressed here is Alex's laziness, willingness to lie and his blanket hatred of immigrants.
There's nothing meaningful here at all.
alex jones
At all!
jordan holmes
Just bigotry.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Let's just toss a little bigotry in there, otherwise people won't kind of get that vibe, you know?
You've got to make sure.
When you're just reading through a bunch of stacks, you don't really have the opportunity to wax on bigotry.
dan friesen
You've got to wax away from the stacks.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
So you've got to find a way to slam it in there!
dan friesen
So we lost Harry Reid recently.
Harry Reid passed.
A lot of people have a lot of different feelings about Harry Reid.
That's not a conversation we need to get into at this point.
But Alex has a...
Weird, kind of insulting eulogy.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
What have we allowed ourselves to become?
And all for just money and power in the system?
You know, Harry Reid, a very corrupt, evil Chinese agent.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Chinese communist agent is dead.
jordan holmes
Good start.
alex jones
At 82. And what a loss.
He could have been a real human.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
He was a servant of evil.
And that's very, very, very, very, very sad, isn't it?
jordan holmes
Is it?
alex jones
Let me hit these articles right now.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
What just happened?
dan friesen
So weird.
jordan holmes
What was that?
dan friesen
That was so weird.
jordan holmes
Explain that to me!
dan friesen
I think, like, I understand, like, dancing on a grave, if you're Alex.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
It's fun.
Yeah.
I kind of also understand being like, what a loss.
He's a statesman.
You know, I can understand that response, too.
What is very difficult is what Alex just did.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's like, what a shame.
He's dead.
He could have been a human.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
But he was a Chinese spy.
jordan holmes
Does that apply to all who've died?
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
I was very confused.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Does he miss Harry Reid?
dan friesen
I think so.
jordan holmes
I guess.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex has Steve Kirsch on for the last hour.
unidentified
Boo.
dan friesen
Mostly to talk about this sub-stack post that he has.
That is full of shit.
Right.
We're not going to listen to much of it.
There's only a few clips that I'm going to play from this because it's dumb.
jordan holmes
You know what it is.
dan friesen
Here's Alex's introduction.
alex jones
Now, I saw this article yesterday, and I spent about an hour and a half reading the whole thing and watching the videos that we're in, and I didn't even scratch the surface of it, but major computer science engineer saw a multi-billion dollar company he's founded and run.
Steve Kirsch is going to be joining us next segment from stevekirsch.substack.com to get into this huge, huge article that we also posted at infowars.com.
Pathology results show 93% of people who died after being vaccinated were killed by the vaccine.
dan friesen
So I'm flabbergasted because the underlying document here is four pages long.
And honestly, it's really more like three in terms of actual text.
The video presentation that is linked in the article is 15 minutes long, so I have no idea what was taking Alex an hour and a half to get through this.
jordan holmes
You know, you gotta pause for bathroom breaks.
dan friesen
I guess.
Also, because it's funny, I want to point out that the first sentence in the video presentation that's linked to this non-study is, quote, I want to say, first of all, that we must not quibble about details.
unidentified
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
Ha, ha, ha, ha!
Ha, ha, ha, ha!
jordan holmes
All right, let's not get bogged down with all the facts or whatever.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
We gotta stay big picture here.
dan friesen
It's about ideas.
jordan holmes
It's about what might be.
dan friesen
That sounds like a perfect opening for a presentation that's utterly devoid of details.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
In any case, if you're curious, there's no data presented in that video.
As it stands, this is a completely meaningless thing, and it can be ignored out of hand until actual concrete evidence is provided.
And by that, I mean that I'm gonna quibble about the details.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well...
Well, that's what you're not supposed to do.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
And I think the reason for that is if you quibble about the details, the details would look real dumb.
Yes.
dan friesen
So this is the last clip, and they're talking about Robert Malone, who we discussed as part of Alex's Christmas message.
He, apparently, has been booked on Rogan.
jordan holmes
Great!
dan friesen
Here's Hirsch talking about that.
Or Kirsch, excuse me.
alex jones
But Dr. Robert Malone...
Because of what's happening, he's on a plane right now to Austin.
He'll tape with Joe Rogan tomorrow.
He'll be out tomorrow night or the next day.
So their attempts to censor him, we can now talk about it, it's now public, are not going to work.
So very, very exciting.
steve kirsch
Yeah, we're very excited that, you know, it's kind of like when one door closes, when he gets removed from Twitter, another door opens, which is that he's going to be on Rogan.
steve krisch
And the people that I work with were instrumental in making that happen.
steve kirsch
Malone's appearance on Joe Rogan will be extraordinary.
And if we can get Robert F. Kennedy on Rogan, I think that'll bring the house down.
dan friesen
This is a great instance of Rogan getting deeper and deeper into the world of anti-vex propaganda, which will ultimately lead to a ton of people in his audience being hurt and possibly dying.
It's just a tragedy to see how irresponsible he's being with his platform if Malone is going to be on, which it does appear that he is, and if he ends up having Robert Kennedy Jr. on, holy shit.
jordan holmes
I mean...
dan friesen
As to Steve's claim that he was instrumental in getting Malone booked on Rogan's show.
That's probably true.
Back when Brett Weinstein was going really hard in the Ivermectin game in June of this year, he did an episode of his podcast Dark Horse titled How to Save the World in Three Easy Steps.
The guests on that episode were Steve Kirsch, And Robert Malone.
Just after they recorded that episode, Brett was a guest on Rogan's podcast along with Dr. Pierre Corey, the founder of the anti-vax and pro-ivermectin group, the Frontline COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance.
It's within the realm of believability that Brett set up that booking, and given that Malone and Kirsch were guests on Brett's show, Spreading Vaccine Misinformation, I could believe that they'd be open to getting them on the larger platform, getting them up onto the big leagues with Rogan.
There's a subtle network of shitheads that are desperately trying to court Rogan to utilize his platform to spread their shit, and he seems more than...
unidentified
Successfully courting.
jordan holmes
He seems really willing.
Successfully courting Rogan.
dan friesen
He seems really thrilled to go along with it.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Also, I was looking over the guest lists of Rogan for the past couple months, and man, he's had some shitheads.
We're talking Ted Nugent, Tim Pool, Blair White, Ben Shapiro, Alex Berenson, and Steven Pinker.
I would think that Alex would be really concerned with his friend Joe buddying up with someone who has such clear ties to Epstein, but I guess that's only a problem when he wants it to be.
Anyway, I find this awful.
jordan holmes
I think it's really, really great.
That when you give somebody $100 million, they almost invariably turn into a right-wing shithead.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I think that's great.
dan friesen
I do wonder if this is kind of like a performance art piece where Joe is trying to see what he can do without them canceling the deal.
jordan holmes
How far can I go?
How can I burn $100 million like the fucking Joker?
dan friesen
I mean, I think even without that $100 million, he's perfectly set, you know, like, for life.
Totally.
He doesn't have a problem.
jordan holmes
He's gonna be alright.
dan friesen
Yeah, so why not try and, like, see how far you can go before they deem it a, like, we gotta cancel this.
jordan holmes
It's a fucking biohazard is what they're gonna deem it.
dan friesen
But yet, at the same time, he's having all these shitheads on.
He's clearly dabbling deeper and deeper into vaccine misinformation.
You know, he's having Robert Malone on.
And yet he won't have Alex back on.
You gotta ask yourself a little bit of a question if you're Alex.
Maybe it's time to sneaky snake him.
jordan holmes
I want to go back to 12-year-old me watching news radio on A&E at 4 in the afternoon and be like, hey, guess what?
See that dumb guy?
He's going to ruin the world.
The whole world, not just news radio's world.
dan friesen
It's also weird for me, too, because I think one of my first interactions with Rogan...
It wasn't news radio, because I think I maybe didn't realize that was who he was, or, like, I wasn't aware of him as a comedian or anything.
I think the first time he came into my periphery was when he was a guest on Loveline.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, that makes sense.
dan friesen
He was a pretty charming guest on Loveline.
He was pretty funny.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And now to look back on that, it's like, wow, him and Adam Carolla both really, really fell off, as did Dr. Drew.
jordan holmes
All three of them, just awful.
I am starting to think that you should not give white men a shit ton of money.
dan friesen
I don't want to think anymore about Love Line.
jordan holmes
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
The guest list is going to start looking a lot like Rogan's in the past few months if you go too far back.
dan friesen
They had some cool folk.
jordan holmes
No!
Rogan's had some cool folk.
dan friesen
That's true.
They're not all crazies.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
So yeah, anyway, we come to the end of this, and now we're as good as caught up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It is ironic.
I know people who've been on Rogan.
I mean, it's just bananas.
dan friesen
Laura Bites?
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
I was trying to think of anybody else that we might know.
jordan holmes
In our immediate circle?
Yeah.
I think Red was on, wasn't he?
dan friesen
Chris Redd?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Maybe.
Seems possible.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
He's in the realm of availability.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, there's my friend Elon Musk.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I did open mics with him.
Anyway, we'll be back, Jordan.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
That's right.
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight.
Now go to bed, Jordan.
dan friesen
Yeah, we'll be back next year.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
Put me down on Team Human, baby.
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
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