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#633: December 30, 2021

December 30, 2021’s InfoWars episode features Alex Jones spiraling after two hours of sleep, claiming divine warnings about "globalist depopulation" and Maxwell’s "black book" as proof of a satanic cover-up. He mocks Judge Nathan, pivots to Fauci’s "vaccine crimes," and absurdly ties a 2018 breastfeeding kit headline to aliens and cloning. Desperate for validation, he threatens quits—then backtracks—while promoting a $5K stunt contest. Dan and Jordan expose his emotional manipulation, cult-like fundraising tactics, and conspiracy-driven desperation, proving his platform thrives on performative outrage rather than substance. [Automatically generated summary]

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alex jones
infowars 37:16
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dan friesen
45:57
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jordan holmes
26:41
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
alex jones
Shang me are the bad guys.
unidentified
Knowledge are fighting.
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
I need money.
Reddler.
Andy and Panzer.
Andy and Pandy.
Stop it.
Andy and Pansy.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a fifth ten colour.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your room.
unidentified
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back, Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot, Jordan, is I told you this and you were a little incredulous, and that is that I've never played a Pokemon game.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was incredulous.
Ever.
Incredulity was my name.
dan friesen
I have witnessed Pikachu as something that exists in the culture.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
It's a rat and it's got electrics.
dan friesen
I remember Gotta Catch Them All being something that people would yell.
jordan holmes
Gotta catch them all.
dan friesen
But I've never played any iteration of it.
And I decided, why not?
Let's fuck around with the diamond.
jordan holmes
Let's do it.
dan friesen
And so I've given it a shot.
I enjoy it so far.
I'm a little ways in.
But what I've decided to do is name all of my Pokemon after InfoWars personalities.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And it's been going great.
jordan holmes
Because systematically, they fit.
dan friesen
I'm trying to find what would this Pokemon be?
Sure, And so we've got, there's a bug, like a cockroach kind of Pokemon.
That's Steve Pachenic.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He never goes away.
jordan holmes
No, you can't get rid of him.
Get rid of him.
not get rid of him we've got a uh and if you try and take his ecosystem he'll fucking wreck you We've got a rock type.
dan friesen
That's Roger Stone.
jordan holmes
Stone, of course.
Boom.
Yeah, I know.
Perfect.
You texted me that very proud of yourself, and I was like, yes, I get it.
dan friesen
And then there's, I found one that is a crow witch kind of thing.
jordan holmes
Mud Murkrow?
A Murkrow.
Is that what it's named?
dan friesen
It looks like it is a little witch hat.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
I know them.
dan friesen
So that one's Hillary.
jordan holmes
Ah, yeah, take that, Hillary.
dan friesen
I'm enjoying this a little too much.
This aspect of the game that isn't even part of the game.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
I did this on Stardew Valley, too.
Like, I would name all my animals after Jordan.
Sure, sure.
And it would lead to some really funny things.
Like, my cow was named David Knight.
Ooh, it's like, you can't milk David Knight right now.
jordan holmes
No, You've already milked him for what he's worth, if you will.
dan friesen
All right, so anyway, that's my bright spot.
jordan holmes
That's a great bright spot.
My bright spot, Dan, is I finally saw Joyride, which is a special that Bobcat Goldthwaite and Dana Gould did after they were in a tragic car accident that really fucked them up.
They were about to go on this little tour, then they got into an accident, and now they finally finished it.
And it's just great.
It's just really great.
Two very, very funny guys.
Sure.
It's nice to see them.
I mean, it's weird because I've worked with both of them too, which would be a name drop if they weren't so utterly irrelevant to the culture at large, you know?
dan friesen
It's still a bit.
You're like 30 years out from everybody knowing still a little bit of a name drop.
It's a name drop.
It's a hard name drop in a specific community.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
One that doesn't accept me anymore.
So it was, yeah, it's great.
It was good to see him.
dan friesen
Awesome.
Yeah.
Hey, so, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over, and I got to be honest, this was one of the most rocky episodes I've heard in a long time.
And we've had some rocky, rocky roads.
jordan holmes
Oh, oh, we've fought Moose and Squirrel many a time.
dan friesen
It's wait, Rocky is Moose and Squirrel.
Boris and Natasha are fighting.
jordan holmes
I understand that the, you know what?
Let's not get bogged down in the correct appellation.
dan friesen
Let's not get bullwinkled here.
This is a mess.
This show's a mess.
jordan holmes
A mess.
dan friesen
Total mess.
jordan holmes
Just a mess.
dan friesen
I'm very excited about it.
We are now in 2022.
We have to figure out something to do with the year.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But this is one last time we will be in 2021 Black Deck.
jordan holmes
Oh, now I should have seen that coming a mile away.
dan friesen
December 31st.
jordan holmes
It should have been.
It should have been coming at me in the rearview beer.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
Yeah.
One last ride on December 31st.
And we'll get to that here in a moment.
Before we do, let's take a little moment to say hello to some wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Liz Fortin.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Liz.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, stenographer for the courts of heaven.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, lift your skinny fists like 5G towers to heaven.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonky.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
Godspeed.
dan friesen
Two references to heaven.
jordan holmes
No, that one's to Godspeed you, Blackbird.
dan friesen
But I mean, words, the word heaven in both.
jordan holmes
Sure, that's true.
dan friesen
That's interesting.
jordan holmes
A theme.
It's happening.
dan friesen
Next, Eva, who has personally cremated Care.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Eva.
dan friesen
I got to assume that means that they've been to Bohemian Grove.
jordan holmes
Could be.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Could be that they're going to be a good one.
dan friesen
Do we have a Bohemian Club member in the audience?
Then we've got a couple of Technocrats to give a shout out to.
So first, Senior Citizen.
Thank you so much.
You are now a Technocrat.
And congratulations, Kyle and Sarah, on your engagement.
Love Christian.
Thank you so much.
You are now a Technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
We got to go full-tailed buggy on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimps so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare info war on you.
Thank y'all.
Yes.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
So what I wanted to do, Jordan, is I wanted to start 2022 off with something kind of special.
Like I wanted to do a Project Camelot episode.
A Jim Baker.
I realized that with the reset wars, we're going to have to kick it down the road a tiny bit, although I do have a bunch of it prepared and ready to go in somewhere.
That would have been kind of special, but maybe not exactly the right feel.
Wanted space craziness or learning more about the courts of heaven.
Like I told you before we started recording, that guy was back on Jim Baker to talk about how all your loved ones who die are the cloud of witnesses in the court of heaven.
jordan holmes
I love it.
dan friesen
Perfect.
jordan holmes
Eventually, we're just going to get into what the actual physical.
The chairs of heaven in the courts.
dan friesen
Who are the U.S. Marshals of the Courts of Heaven?
They serve you with subpoenas.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
But anyway, I was sort of fishing in a dry well.
There wasn't really much to find.
And so I decided, hey, last day of the year, Alex is kind of usually, you know, in some kind of mood.
jordan holmes
Sure, yeah, yeah.
He's reflecting on something or he's throwing something that will be reflected back at him.
dan friesen
So I decided to do that.
And here is an out-of-context drop from today's show.
alex jones
Okay.
I'm not on cocaine.
I appreciate your call.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
unidentified
All right.
Okay.
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Is that the beginning or the end of the show?
Who knows?
dan friesen
Here's one more out of context drop, just because I think this one's funny.
alex jones
All true art is true.
All real art touches the soul.
dan friesen
Not on cocaine.
jordan holmes
Wow.
Wow.
I mean, you know, that's deep.
That's just deep.
Giving someone art is arting someone's death.
I think that's what he said.
alex jones
Yep.
dan friesen
So we start here on the 31st, and here's where Alex is at.
alex jones
That said, yesterday, I told you that I was unable to sleep the night before.
Had about two hours' sleep, and I was just very emotional yesterday and talked about quitting and not doing the show.
jordan holmes
So I did some cocaine.
alex jones
I'm not seriously contemplating quitting, but I also wasn't being dramatic.
It doesn't feel right to just come on air and talk about all this carnage and horrible stuff like you're calling a football game or a baseball game.
This is really emotional for me.
And I've had some things privately happen in the last year that nobody knows about that have just been devastating.
Absolutely devastating.
And I've come to the decision.
I almost did it yesterday, but I've come to the decision that I'm going to share it on air.
I don't know if it's going to be this year or next year, but it'll be in the next week.
I don't know if it's going to be the last day of 2021 or whether it's going to be next week.
But I think people need to know about this.
Well, there's a lot of stuff you need to know about.
I mean, if you want to know how criminal the government and the Democratic Party is, wait till you hear this.
Because there's two big things.
dan friesen
All right, look.
jordan holmes
What are we talking about?
dan friesen
I don't know what these big things are, and I don't give a fuck because you know what?
You said that yesterday you were all emotional and you were going to quit.
jordan holmes
So we're going to go ahead and have to go back to the day before that.
dan friesen
Because I hear him saying that he's almost another apology for the day before.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
No, I saw this one coming.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we've got to go back to the 30th.
And I want to assess this based on the standard of what he's saying.
Alex is saying that he didn't actually sincerely mean he was going to quit and he wasn't being dramatic.
jordan holmes
Simultaneously, both of those cannot be true.
dan friesen
Well, we'll see.
We'll see what happens.
So anyway, here's where we start on December 30th.
alex jones
Okay.
Okay.
Let me really just start the broadcast off from this perspective.
I went to bed about 10 o'clock last night and I woke up at 1:15 in the morning and never went back to sleep.
And it wasn't because I drank coffee late in the day.
I was just so upset about the depopulation going on and the fact that it's all confirmed.
And basically every prediction we made has come true, except it's moving faster than I thought.
jordan holmes
Or slower.
dan friesen
They're not 10 years behind.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
alex jones
I've been laying there unable to sleep for about an hour, basically meditating, focusing, researching in my mind, thinking.
And I just felt overwhelmed.
dan friesen
I fucking love that turn of phrase.
I didn't know you could just call thinking, researching in your mind.
jordan holmes
Hey, I was researching in my mind.
I was doing some thought research.
dan friesen
I was cogitating.
By that, I mean researching.
jordan holmes
He specifically did not say cogitating this time.
dan friesen
He was not being like a cogitor.
jordan holmes
No, he was not.
dan friesen
Not for nothing.
Like, Alex might have had a bad sleep night, but he said he went to bed at 10 and got up at 1.
That's three hours.
Like, that's not good.
And you'll probably be dragging the next day.
But, like, I'm somebody who's had insomnia for the better part of my life.
And I wouldn't call that not sleeping.
jordan holmes
It wouldn't kill you.
dan friesen
No.
It's not going to be pleasant, but I don't know.
It doesn't seem like a good enough excuse for something that you need to apologize for and explain that on your show.
jordan holmes
I think one thing that he should apologize for is as a professional broadcaster, I know more about his sleep cycle than I do any topic that he's covering.
You realize that I know so much about how well this man is sleeping on any given night.
dan friesen
I think you know more about like his bizarre, like just the piccadillos of his emotional states, too.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah, I certainly think that there's more granular detail about that than there is even about the globalists, quite frankly.
jordan holmes
You know, this Edward Murrow cat, I don't really know what the news is like, but he does not sleep well.
That's all I remember from him.
dan friesen
He is cranky.
jordan holmes
Good night and good luck really should have been something he said.
dan friesen
Good night and good luck because you're going to bed.
alex jones
I'm not.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Good night to you.
Good luck to me.
jordan holmes
Good luck to me.
dan friesen
So when Alex was not sleeping, he did some researching in his mind, but he also did some praying.
And if you listen to this clip closely, it sounds like God was bullying him.
alex jones
I've been laying there unable to sleep for about an hour, basically meditating, focusing, researching in my mind, thinking.
And I just felt overwhelmed by the Holy Spirit to get on my knees and start praying on the floor.
And I'm sitting there tired thinking, no, I can just pray right here.
And it's like, no, you need to get on your knees and put your head on the ground.
And I sat there for about an hour praying to God and just opening myself up.
And it was literally God just saying, here's the time I saved you there.
Here's the time I saved you here.
Here's the time I saved your child from dying.
Here's the, I mean, it was just, and it was like, now you are going to have to go out and you're going to have to get up off your ass and you're going to have to get focused and be a real man because you've been having too much fun doing this.
You joke around too much.
You screw around too much.
And I didn't rise you up to play half measures.
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So, yeah, God apparently is telling him to get it together.
jordan holmes
His God is two seconds away from turning him into the son of Sam Killer, right?
Like, we're there.
dan friesen
Well, I think that this is a real emotional.
jordan holmes
I mean, he's being tormented by images of when he's failed.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And theoretically, God saved him.
dan friesen
Right.
Imagine this is a real communication with a deity.
Like, the deity is like, hey, dude, look at this.
Look at what I did for you.
jordan holmes
Hey, look what I did for you.
Hey, you're not doing, you're not holding up your end of the bargain.
Here I am saving you in situations where totally you don't deserve to be saved.
And you have made a deal with me in order for me to give you blessings.
You know, like how God works.
Nothing at all like the devil whatsoever.
You and I have made a deal.
dan friesen
A deal with the God.
unidentified
A deal with the God, as I say, for sure.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think this is an unhealthy.
But at least, like, what God is presumably telling Alex is get your shit together and take your job seriously.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Which I would say that to him as well.
I'm no God, but I would say maybe you should be a little more serious about the stuff you do.
jordan holmes
In some ways, God is specifically saying that you shouldn't be mad at the crew because it's your fault.
dan friesen
He's never mad at the crew.
That's something that you need to understand.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
dan friesen
So Alex starts rambling a bit about how, you know, people who get hurt by the vaccine, you know, they're not going to blame themselves.
They're going to get mad at people like Alex because they were right all along and they'll have to try and rationalize somehow that they were actually right.
This is kind of what Trump is doing.
jordan holmes
I was going to say.
alex jones
Most of those people will fight to rationalize and to cover it up and to convince themselves that what they did was right and to actually hate those of us that tried to warn them and tried to stop them.
And we've all seen an example of this with Trump.
The globalists were after him.
He was securing the border.
He was standing up to China.
He was getting his better trade deals.
He was cutting off the fentanyl coming in.
He got us out of the WHO.
He did so many great things.
And then he wants to get the economy going so he does Operation Warp Speed.
He believes it's a regular vaccine and believes the propaganda, just like Dr. Paul did.
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.
But now, a year and a half into this, year and a half, you count England, a year here, we have hundreds of thousands dead we know of, millions maimed.
And I was thinking this morning about all the people I know that have gotten really sick and wiped out or died after they took the shots.
And so I was just thinking about Trump and how we count on him to supposedly be a leader and help us.
And that's why we're mad at him.
But really, as I said yesterday, we can't be mad at Trump unless we're really mad at Rand Paul, who's a medical doctor, who still hasn't come out and said, okay, I was wrong.
This doesn't work.
This is a scam.
dan friesen
This is strong strategy on Alex's part.
Trump does not give a shit.
Nope.
But you might be able to bully Rand Paul.
jordan holmes
You could.
dan friesen
It's possible.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That is a good shifting of expectations.
Lee, let's leave Trump alone.
Fuck it.
There's nothing we're going to gain there.
Now, Rand Paul is a doctor.
Let's scream at him.
jordan holmes
Right.
What you should do is call him and be like, don't you remember whenever I supported you here?
And don't you remember whenever I supported you here?
And don't you remember when I supported you here?
You're not holding up your end of the bargain.
dan friesen
And even those generationally.
Remember when I supported your dad?
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Going on back and back.
dan friesen
Yeah.
When your dad was running for president and there was only one set of footprints.
unidentified
That's what I was carrying him.
dan friesen
I think that this isn't going to work either at this point, but it's a better move than trying to keep going with Trump because Trump obviously doesn't give a shit.
Whereas Rand Paul, like, he wasn't the apprentice.
jordan holmes
No, no.
dan friesen
He wasn't a lifetime famous person.
jordan holmes
No, it is kind of clear to me, I think, that Alex's only shot at getting somebody to take him, I guess, seriously or to communicate with him is to go on Rogan first.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And then get that kind of level of bullshit out there.
And since he's clearly not going on Rogan again, I think Alex has just been left behind by these people.
I don't think they want him anymore.
dan friesen
I don't think many people do.
No.
I also think there was a video that Alex played of Jimmy Dore being like, Alex Jones has been more right than Rachel Madow.
jordan holmes
What the fuck happened?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Well, I don't think you would have to do that.
Well, I mean, we don't need to get into it.
Yeah, he's a piece of shit.
dan friesen
But like, I don't think that Alex realizes that when people say stuff like this, they're not saying something positive about him.
They're attacking Rachel Maddow by comparing her to Alex.
jordan holmes
You're so shitty.
You're worse than Alex.
Or you're not.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
And yeah, that probably doesn't feel great either.
jordan holmes
Hey, no publicity is bad publicity.
dan friesen
It's true.
So anyway, we had to get to the news.
Oh, wait, we don't.
alex jones
Now, I could cover all this incredible news, and I will next segment on the Ghislaine Maxwell verdict, and is it a victory, is it a defeat?
It's actually both.
Give me a view on that.
We're opening the phone's up today as well.
But I want to talk about philosophy and a tale of two people.
And I'm a very private person when it comes to my friends and people that I know, whether they just be a common person or a very famous person.
dan friesen
Absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
You brag about all your celebrity friends all the fucking time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, non-stop.
Absolute non-stop bragging.
dan friesen
Can't stop talking about it.
I mean, back in the earlier times, it was like Dave Mustaine.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Now, I mean, admittedly, it's lower.
There's his wife's tennis coach.
That guy's up there, too.
dan friesen
Sure.
I don't think the tennis partner and Alex are friends, though.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
This is just that guy.
That person is just a reporter.
That's a source.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
So, yeah, we got a tale of two people.
jordan holmes
Tale of two people.
dan friesen
You already fucking know it's Tucker and Joe Rogan.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Without even needing any more information, it's like, oh, you're going to talk about your famous Charlie Sheen and Christopher Walken, that's for sure.
Not anymore.
jordan holmes
Not anymore.
dan friesen
To be fair, Christopher Walken was never all that interested in what Alex was doing.
He was just cooking with Richard Bell.
He was accidentally on the show.
alex jones
But I'm going to go ahead and give you an example of two people that I know very well.
Joe Rogan, particularly well, since 1998, 99.
And I mean, I've been good friends with him, hung out with him, vacationed with him so much over the years.
We've had falling outs.
We've had issues.
There's been some of him talk for a year.
Sometimes we hang out 15 times in a year.
But.
jordan holmes
Thanks for that background.
alex jones
It's a tale of two people.
You've got, well, there's a tale of three people.
You've got Alex Jones, and then you got Tucker Carlson, and you got Joe Rogan.
And if you understand those three types, you understand it's a way to explain something that's very important because I talk about this a lot, but sometimes I hear the rebroadcast, and I don't think I'm making it crystal clear like it is in my own mind.
And I want you to really wrap your brain around this.
And I know most of you already have some probably level.
I haven't even been able to, but I want this to really sink in because it is a paradox.
dan friesen
We got a paradox coming.
Look out.
I hear Alex saying that I'm not being understood when I talk about these things.
And so I will try to clarify it in a way that's accepting of something being a paradox.
It's confusing.
jordan holmes
No idea.
dan friesen
But I get what he's trying to introduce.
Yes.
There are aspects to Tucker and Rogan that if you understand the differences between them, it's somehow illuminating.
But then he threw himself in there too.
So now it's three people.
jordan holmes
I loved that moment because in that moment, you just, you can see it all.
You're just like, there's no way he cannot be the most important part of this story, too.
Well, yes, it's a story about two people who are not me.
What?
That can't happen.
There's also me in this story.
dan friesen
But it's also pretty obvious that the tale of two people is about how similar or different they are to Alex.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
That's where we're going.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And also, spoiler alert, a fourth entity shows up later, which is the globalist.
jordan holmes
I do appreciate that these two are like.
Now, what I'm going to do is tell you how great these people are, but what I'm also doing is telling you why they're not perfect and why I am.
The places that make them different from me are false, and the things that make them similar to me are good.
dan friesen
Well, what we'll get to eventually is that Tucker has one strength and one weakness.
Joe has one strength and one weakness.
Right.
And Alex just has both strengths.
jordan holmes
Both strengths.
Absolutely.
Yes.
I knew it was going to be that.
dan friesen
That's more or less what's going on.
So anyway, we got to deal with this paradox.
I don't know if it's a paradox.
alex jones
It is paradoxical.
And you can see it from both angles.
unidentified
It's not what a paradox means.
alex jones
Joe Rogan is completely happy on Cloud9.
dan friesen
He's high.
jordan holmes
And he's got $100 million.
alex jones
I've known the guy forever, and I've never seen him so satisfied and just, you know, they say he beat the game of life, basically.
The best in everything he does.
jordan holmes
Except for the head drama, I guess.
alex jones
And he is waking up to what's really happening in the world, but it's not really sunk into him how dystopic it's going to get, and that it's only going to get worse from here unless he fully organizes against the globalist.
And that will step him into a whole nother level.
So, Joe is a very happy person.
He's mad about the shots.
He knows they're poisonous.
He's starting to figure out it's by design.
He's, as they say, becoming completely red-pilled.
Then there's Tucker Carlson.
And I love seeing the left constantly fetishized.
And oh my God, he's going to run for president.
Oh, he's the leader of the Republicans.
Oh, he could take over the party.
jordan holmes
Are we doing that?
alex jones
They wish they could.
Tucker Carlson wants nothing to do with DC, nothing to do with the presidency.
He grew up around it.
His dad ran a major federal agency.
Tucker Carlson wants to live in the woods in Maine.
jordan holmes
What?
What are we talking about?
alex jones
What is going on?
jordan holmes
What is happening?
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
And I still don't understand exactly what, like, if you're just listening to this sequentially, what is the paradox?
What are we talking about?
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
So Rogan knows some stuff, but he's not fully awake.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because he doesn't realize that he needs to radicalize his audience and create essentially a bro army or something to fight the globalists.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But meanwhile, Tucker Carlson does know all of everything and wants to live in a shack in Maine.
alex jones
Right.
jordan holmes
And that's a paradox.
dan friesen
It's confusing.
jordan holmes
That's not what a paradox is.
dan friesen
Paradoxes are confusing.
jordan holmes
I don't feel like they're that confusing.
I think they're more of just a conundrum in a sense.
You know, an unsolvable problem is almost not confusing at all.
I bet that if we looked up conundrum, confusing would be 100% realize that a moment after I said it.
dan friesen
So here, I think, is about as best as Alex can lay out what the paradox is.
alex jones
Tucker Carlson only gets on a cell phone like 10 minutes a day.
Tucker Carlson gets it and knows it's all dystopic.
And he's got it.
He's all the way awake doing as much as he can on Fox News.
So Tucker Carlson's somebody that didn't believe all this and thought I was super evil 20 years ago and I was just saying horrible things.
That 10 years ago he figured out, okay, Alex is right.
But maybe Jones exaggerates.
Now he's like, oh my God, it's worse than you said.
But see, there's the paradox.
He's more awake than Joe Rogan, but he doesn't have the complete freedom that Joe Rogan has.
So it's the paradox.
dan friesen
That's not a paradox.
jordan holmes
It's still not a paradox.
dan friesen
That's not the right word.
No.
Paradoxes are things that are like self-contradictory, but also kind of true.
Like the classic example is like someone saying this sentence is false.
If that's correct, then the sentence is false, but it's also true.
If it's incorrect, then the sentence must be true, and that means it's false.
It's circular and it creates a paradox.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
There are other varieties of paradoxes that grow out of thought experiments, but what Alex is describing is not paradoxical.
It's really more kind of bad luck.
It's kind of ironic in the sense of the word that Atlantis Morissette uses.
jordan holmes
Insofar as it's not ironic, yes.
dan friesen
It's really less a paradox and more of an excuse for Alex to use for why these people who are supposedly his complete allies aren't doing exactly what he's doing or saying the same stuff.
Joe is entirely free and could say all that stuff, but he's not awake enough.
Tucker is all the way awake, but he has to worry about keeping his job at Fox.
That's fun, but it also makes no sense and it's total bullshit.
Joe is not entirely free, as evidenced by him being forced to take down his episodes with people like Stefan Molyneux in order to get that $100 million contract with Spotify.
And if Tucker was fully awake and knew that the world was exactly as Alex described it, saving his job at Fox would mean exactly zero to him.
He was born filthy rich, so he doesn't need the money.
And he could migrate his audience somewhere else if he was being censored in any meaningful way on Fox.
None of this is connected to reality and it's not a paradox.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I like his description of Tucker's evolution just because it also reminds me of like a worm crawling towards attention.
You know, like 20 years ago, Tucker Carlson didn't get any attention unless he hated me.
10 years ago, he got some attention for liking me.
And now that he's me, he gets all the attention in the world.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, think about it.
20 years ago, if Tucker was even like a relevant figure, he would have been a bowtie-wearing dickhole who was towing a very like hawkish, conservative line.
And Alex was saying 9-11 was an inside job.
So, yeah, maybe they would have been across purposes at that point.
10 years ago, the Tea Party was on the rise, and people like Alex maybe had a little bit more of it.
jordan holmes
Maybe I'll take a listen to this guy.
dan friesen
Maybe you're in touch with the kind of audiences I'm realizing I'm going to need to reach.
jordan holmes
Maybe we're going to be able to do that.
Maybe you're radicalizing them a little bit too far too fast, and I better change with the times.
dan friesen
And now everything is thunderdog.
jordan holmes
Now we're all going to die.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So Alex gets to talking about his own life and his own progression.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
jordan holmes
How is that paradoxical?
dan friesen
Well, this is actually paradoxical.
I don't know if it is.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
But it's contradictory for sure.
alex jones
I grew up around people that knew how the world really worked and never even thought of it as an issue.
I grew up knowing all this.
I knew all this stuff when I was 10 years old.
And that's why I got a big leap on everybody else because I was already there.
And you took it for granted.
dan friesen
I get A Family has a bunch of John Birch shit in it.
But like this, knowing about all this and how the world works and all the globalist stuff at 10 doesn't match up with the rest of his supposed timeline.
All this is like, weren't you a Satanist at that point?
jordan holmes
Yeah, if you did completely comprehend how the world worked at 10, how is it that you turned into like a Satanist lover at 16?
dan friesen
Somewhere around there.
jordan holmes
Wouldn't that essentially mean that you understood what you were doing?
This was not being tricked into Satanism.
This was you making some sort of deal with the devil, one that could perhaps, I don't know, echo throughout your entire life to the point where several decades later, there might be a voice in your head saying, this is when I helped you, and this is when I helped you.
dan friesen
Yeah, possibly.
That's an interesting theory.
So we got another paradox.
Okay, it's not a paradox.
alex jones
It's weird.
Like, I'll be out eating a steak with Joe Rogan.
We're having fun.
Everything's great.
We're telling jokes.
And he's just so happy.
Carlson's not like that.
And I'm not judging Joe.
I'm not judging Carlson.
Carlson's more like me.
He realizes we're really screwed.
We may not be able to turn this back.
This is the great reset takeover depopulation event.
And there's that paradox that if the public won't wake up and won't defend themselves, the globalists are going to turn them into a starving horde.
And they're planning in the end game to make us join them just so we survive.
dan friesen
Again, that is not a paradox.
jordan holmes
No.
I'm really struggling with how often we're using the word paradox and having zero idea.
dan friesen
It's not going to stop either.
alex jones
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Yeah, it goes paradoxically, it goes throughout the rest of the episode.
jordan holmes
Nicely done.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is silly.
I do like, you know, we're out having steaks and Rogan's really happy.
It's like, yes.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He gets to get really high and drunk with weirdos for a living.
Why wouldn't he be happy?
jordan holmes
I'd be pretty happy making.
And then Tucker, when he gets a steak with Alex, he realizes that he's getting a steak with Alex.
That sucks.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's kind of miserable.
dan friesen
Always have your head on a swivel.
jordan holmes
He's going to cause a problem now.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex is in a little bit of a state where he's wrestling.
Maybe he's been wrong this whole time.
And I would say he has.
alex jones
Yeah.
And that's the message I get from Globalist is, yeah, Jones, you picked the wrong team.
You'll be begging for our help soon.
You'll see.
The population will destroy you for trying to help them.
Oh, I guess that's the fourth group.
See, I get to know the globalists.
I get to know all the top people.
And I'm not bragging.
I'm saying God put me in that position so I could actually see it all for what it is.
And then I ask myself, the reason I'm explaining this is, am I wrong?
On so many fronts, should we go ahead and join with Satan and kill the majority of the population and go with that plan?
Because the population doesn't care about themselves or their children.
They kind of deserve to die.
dan friesen
Okay.
alex jones
And that's a hypothetical.
I'm not literally saying I'm going to join Satan.
It's just you have to know that all these other people decided to join it.
And the reason I'm not going to join it is they're so miserable.
They're so empty.
They're not their own men and women.
And spiritually, the feeling of even imagining joining them is worse than a thousand deaths.
So I'm not going to do that.
dan friesen
I feel like God chose a bad representative here.
This is not a good dude.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but isn't Tucker miserable too?
So it's like, there's no real big difference there.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's true.
It's true.
jordan holmes
Or Tucker's a globalist.
dan friesen
I hear this clip, and I really just think that it's Alex trying to make him sound like he's an awesome person to the audience.
Like he's creating this fictional offer of a life of luxury that he's turned down in order to protect the people.
jordan holmes
Yes, of course.
dan friesen
Complete nonsense.
Also, a really important point is that Alex seems to be expressing that the reason he doesn't join up with Satan to kill off most of the population is because the people who are on the team of Satan, they seem unhappy.
It's not that it's inherently wrong to commit genocide.
It's that Alex thinks the devil has low workplace morale.
jordan holmes
It really does feel like I'm not going to join Satan because personally, that would be uncomfortable.
dan friesen
It's not even that.
It's those people look bummed out.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, but even then, it's not like he cares about them.
It's because he would personally not want to feel as the way that they appear to him.
dan friesen
Well, that's true.
But at the same time, I don't really feel like if you look at Alex, that he looks like he's enjoying shit all that much.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
And he kind of expresses exactly.
jordan holmes
I think everybody in Alex's estimation should probably act more like Joe and get $100 million and just get high all the time.
dan friesen
Yeah, why doesn't everybody just do that?
jordan holmes
That seems like an easy out.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex doesn't seem to be enjoying shit all that much anymore.
alex jones
And so that's really a larger gestalt of what I'm trying to articulate and what I'm trying to get at.
But it really is this.
I need to be able to enjoy my life.
I need to be able to have armor and arm.
I need to be able, that's a natural function to not be in war constantly.
But you see, we are in a war.
The globalist system is a war on humanity.
And so denying it just makes you surrender to it.
I'm fighting it.
And I'm just simply trying to explain to the public that you either better wake up and stand up now or you are going to slowly be tortured to death and die.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
I think you should enjoy your life a little more.
jordan holmes
Ah, yeah.
I mean, maybe that would change things.
dan friesen
It seems to be a byproduct of someone who's not enjoying their life too much.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Lashing out angrily and projecting things on the audience.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think he's looking at the problem from the wrong direction.
dan friesen
You bet.
jordan holmes
You know, maybe enjoy your life more first and then talk to us.
dan friesen
So earlier we heard Alex sort of teasing around this idea that maybe we should stick it to Rand Paul.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
Because Trump doesn't give a shit.
I mean, it's a subtext at least.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he continues down this line, like, maybe, maybe it's time to really fucking go at Rand Paul.
alex jones
Rand Paul, Fauci will retire if Republicans take over the House and Senate.
And I will investigate the cover-ups.
Oh, the cover-ups like them making it at Wuhan and deploying it, already having the vaccine ready.
You mean stuff like that, the vaccine you pushed?
And that you still aren't telling people is dangerous?
Damn.
I mean, is it time to put the Hitler mustache on Rand Paul?
unidentified
Ooh.
alex jones
I mean, both these guys are doctors.
They can read studies all day, can't they?
And again, I am trying to pressure these people to go do the right thing and save all these children.
dan friesen
It's also dumb.
That's a dumb way to pressure people.
jordan holmes
Why?
Putting a Hitler mustache on him?
dan friesen
Is that like a turn of phrase?
Is that something that people say, ah, it's time to put the Hitler mustache on him?
jordan holmes
No, I think he's literally saying, let's get some pictures of Rand Paul and then draw little Hitler mustaches on there and I assume mail them to him.
dan friesen
Sure, Hitler mustache on Rand Paul contest.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Who can draw the best Hitler mustache?
Yeah, I just think that there's probably more effective ways of pressuring leaders who you think may be willing to help you.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I also think that maybe in terms of Rand Paul, it would be best if people in Kentucky put that pressure on him.
jordan holmes
Oh, that would be a good idea because they're, you know, we don't think about representative democracy like this anymore, but theoretically, they're his boss.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Alex seems to have no standing to put a Hitler mustache on Rand Paul.
jordan holmes
Maybe he should try being more active politically in Texas.
dan friesen
Yeah, maybe.
alex jones
Yeah.
No.
jordan holmes
Oh, you're right.
dan friesen
He's got to obsess about Florida.
Rand Paul.
Yeah.
So, look, we need to get desperate.
That's the thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's Alex's.
jordan holmes
Desperate Times call for desperate rans.
dan friesen
He quotes something bizarre.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I think he just saw this quote on a meme or something like that, and he got really excited.
Okay.
alex jones
My point earlier was we need to get desperate.
We need to get really concerned.
We need to get out of our comfort zones.
We need to really expose what's happening.
That the major globalist depopulation operation is happening now.
And that it's our job and our responsibility to go out and defend the children and to expose these people and to go out to the clinics and hold up banners and educate the people going inside and not let the system bring in a medical tyranny and try to force this garbage, not just on us, but unconsenting children.
Lord in the Shogi said, the way of the samurai is desperateness.
Ten men or more cannot kill such a man.
Common sense will not accomplish great things.
Simply become insane and desperate.
In the way of the samurai, if one uses discrimination, he will fall behind.
One needs neither loyalty nor devotion, but simply to become desperate in the way.
Loyalty and devotion are of themselves within desperation.
I mean, I am desperate, ladies and gentlemen.
I am a desperate man.
And I should be desperate.
I'm fighting pure evil.
But at least I know what I'm fighting.
The children don't know what hit them.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's quoting the Hagakuri.
jordan holmes
I'm a little surprised that either Forrest Whitaker is not involved.
Why is he quoting the Hagakura?
What is happening?
dan friesen
Alex is trying to live the way of the samurai.
jordan holmes
No, that's not even the way of the samurai.
That was a hyper-nationalistic book written to romanticize the Japanese past.
It never really happened in order to get people to start wars.
That's what it was about.
It was about fucking that you got to kill people.
dan friesen
Yeah, but that song Fast Shadow from the soundtrack for the first time.
That is true.
jordan holmes
That was really good.
dan friesen
Yeah, I found that to be a strange pull on his part.
unidentified
I don't know if I've ever heard him quote the way of the sniper before.
jordan holmes
I'm a little surprised.
I'm a little surprised.
dan friesen
But yeah, I think he's just hit the nail on the head.
He's pretty desperate.
jordan holmes
I think he really wouldn't like the parts about making sure that you are beautiful, making sure that you always have makeup readily available.
dan friesen
There's a lot in there he would probably take issue with.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I think that this is problematic in a certain way because he's attaching this idea of getting desperate to protesting at places like, I don't know, vaccination.
Sure, sure, change.
And I don't believe that his audience would desperately educate people at those drives.
I think they would harass, harangue.
jordan holmes
Just like pick not regular folk.
Just leave regular folk out of this, man.
You want to go after Fauci?
Find Fauci.
I mean, don't find Fauci.
Don't find Fauci.
No finding Fauci.
But my point is, don't direct people towards just regular people, man.
dan friesen
We're all fine.
The game is sustainable, like when Alex is yelling about David Rockefeller and Hillary and Obama.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
It's a sustainable propaganda sphere.
But yeah, once it's really impacting normal people trying to live their lives, it becomes an issue.
jordan holmes
Just don't make everybody a pawn in your weird psychodrama.
Yeah.
You know, if you want to be screaming about almost goddamn fictional figures that you've created out of bullshit, then fine.
But don't be like, hey, also, Tara down the block needs to get her ass kicked.
Like, no, that's not okay.
dan friesen
Don't send a whole crew of people to a community meeting or whatever.
It's like, this is bullshit.
jordan holmes
Dude, we're trying to run a DD game.
Why are you guys screaming at us?
It's witchcraft.
dan friesen
So look, you, I don't know if you know this.
You're in an earth suit right now.
jordan holmes
Okay.
I'm guessing.
alex jones
I will tell you that you are an eternal being.
You have a spirit.
You have free will.
You are just manifesting in this body.
And if you don't fight Klaus Schwab and Mill Gates and the New World Order, God is going to separate you from the universe.
And you don't want that.
Now, things are very paradoxical.
I notice what I do later in the day is not like what I do in the morning.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
It's paradoxical that you feel different in the morning in the days.
Yeah, I think that I like the mixing of the grandiose language, the pseudo-spirituality of you're an eternal being in an earth suit.
And then at the same time, being like, God will smite you if you don't fight my enemies.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
It's a little bit much.
jordan holmes
Yeah, let's just pull from fucking most deaf.
Why not?
Let's just throw in some fear not of men.
You know, we're just pulling from everywhere.
We got the hakakure.
We got this bullshit.
Let's go for it.
dan friesen
So, look, Alex is fighting these demons, and that sort of dovetails in with you being an eternal being in an earth suit, what have you.
And Alex has noticed something, and that is that the system laughs when he talks about how he's fighting demons.
alex jones
Notice I don't talk about little green men or flying saucers.
That's not what's going on here.
jordan holmes
Yes, you do.
alex jones
Your aliens of the day are your demons of old, and it's an interdimensional attack.
And notice the system doesn't laugh at that.
They all take it deadly serious because they all are on board with this.
And they've signed up with it.
And the currency of entering the new world order is hurting children and hurting humanity and destroying our very future.
That's how you get on board with the Rockefeller program that is not human.
I mean, look at John D. Rockefeller I. You think that's a human?
No.
jordan holmes
Right.
alex jones
That's an avatar, Jack.
100%.
jordan holmes
Everybody knows that.
alex jones
100%.
dan friesen
That's a walk-in.
jordan holmes
That's easy.
That one's the easiest.
That's the one that you're like, oh, so that's what a walk-in looks like.
And then you know.
Exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
That's your quintessential walk-in.
dan friesen
He's the platonic ideal.
jordan holmes
He's the proto-walk-in.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So also plenty of people laugh at Alex when he insists that he's fighting interdimensional demons.
I do regularly.
I do think that the subject probably makes less headlines about him, probably just because the media, they're busy.
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Alex thinking that he's fighting demons doesn't rank compared to the real world fucked up things that Alex is involved in.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
News stories surrounding January 6th, the Spina, the Sandy Hook cases, all sorts of things are maybe more pressing than whether or not he thinks he's fighting demons.
jordan holmes
They are more pressing, but I feel like the biggest problem with those things is that we're not always given the context of the he's fighting demons part along with it.
dan friesen
It would be nice if it was at least a little bit of a reminder.
jordan holmes
Noted demon fighter Alex Jones.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think it would give a little bit of flavor, seasoning to those stories.
jordan holmes
Man who has not successfully slayed one demon is his entire life, Alex Jones in trial again.
dan friesen
You don't know that.
jordan holmes
I feel like he would have crowed nonstop about it if he had to do it.
dan friesen
Maybe just in the episodes we haven't listened to.
unidentified
No, that can't be true.
dan friesen
So there's a bit of demons out there, obviously.
And I don't actually know all that much about demons.
Well, obviously I know one thing that I don't believe they exist.
jordan holmes
Sure, that's a problem.
dan friesen
But beyond that, I don't really know what they're like.
Thankfully, Alex comes in with some details.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's nice.
alex jones
These creatures aren't even as advanced as us, but they are aware.
And it looks like older in a way.
We're not sure.
And they're like really stupid, but the demon tricks to manipulate us and control us.
And so that's why they jack into humans that'll work with them and are able to take over and do so much because we don't go around trying to cheat each other and do all this stuff.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
But they do.
dan friesen
So it seems to me that Alex is saying that they're dumber, but maybe older.
We don't know.
jordan holmes
We're working on it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's a team, a specialist team.
dan friesen
But they're crafty.
They have a lot of tricks.
And without them, without these demons, humans never lie and cheat at all.
jordan holmes
That's really, that's a real bummer.
We should get rid of them.
I think they're really fucking things up if that's the case.
dan friesen
If Alex legitimately believes that, and that wasn't just something that he randomly said or misspoke.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
That is a painfully naive way to look at the world.
alex jones
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
It's just a bummer.
It's just a bummer, not least of which because, what a shitty life.
What a shitty life every human being was consigned to upon birth to just be like occasionally grabbed and influenced by a demon.
You didn't get to choose.
dan friesen
But at the same time, every time you did anything bad, it wasn't you.
jordan holmes
No, it was the demon that controls.
That motherfucker is a real asshole.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Maybe it's just a way of not taking responsibility for that.
jordan holmes
It could be.
dan friesen
Who knows?
jordan holmes
I think narcissists usually take responsibility for things, right?
dan friesen
Totally.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So last night, Alex didn't sleep well, but he also, I think this is probably like before he went to bed.
He needed a victory.
Sure.
He found one.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Last night, I was kind of like, I need a victory and I want to feel good.
And thank God that evil woman got convicted because, you know, they wanted to get her off.
And my hate of her made me say to myself it was a victory.
And I shot that video.
dan friesen
Talking about Geele and Maxwell.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
And from that perspective, it's true, but that's a tired Alex.
Not a fresh Alex.
And a fresh Alex got up at 1.15 in the morning because I couldn't sleep and really went and looked at it.
And I went, oh my gosh.
The federal judge with the defense team and the prosecutors suppressed the black book of pedophiles and they say they'll now be protected and actually protected the child reign that Chucky Schumer now is rewarding the judge with an appellate court job with.
And Schumer's heavily involved in the whole thing, of course.
dan friesen
Such a bizarre way to discuss this situation.
Like Alex says it the night before he needed a victory and wanted to feel good.
So he made a video talking about how the Maxwell verdict was a win.
But later, when he actually looked into it, he realized it was bad news.
This is pretty revealing inasmuch as it kind of shows that Alex is completely willing to put out knee-jerk reactions to news items without looking into them at all, specifically for the purpose of satisfying his emotional needs.
That's pretty bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That sucks.
jordan holmes
No, that's real.
If you have a responsibility, you know, and I would argue that you have a responsibility to an audience, that's not keeping up your end of the market.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
They should probably call you and say, do you remember when we helped you here?
Do you remember when we helped you here?
dan friesen
It's almost like using the audience to satisfy those emotional needs at their expense.
You're giving them bad information, presumably, just because it feels good.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you wish it was masturbatory.
dan friesen
Also, what happened here is actually a little bit different than what Alex is saying.
He posted that video that was about the Maxwell verdict being a win because that was his immediate reaction to the news.
By the next day, he'd seen how the online conspiracy world had formed their narrative surrounding the verdict and that they believed that this was a cover-up.
In order to make sure his messaging was in sync with the larger conspiracy world, Alex changed his tune.
The talking points Alex is using here are cribbed directly from social media posts spreading misinformation about the case.
There wasn't sweeping sealing of documents.
In fact, the judge ordered a ton of it to be unsealed, including transcripts of depositions and bank records.
What Alex is misrepresenting here is that the judge found that, quote, only certain pages from Maxwell's address book identifying victims with the word massage next to them could be marked into evidence.
This was to protect the identity of victims, not to shield any of the abusers.
Also, Schumer isn't making that judge, Allison Nathan, an appellate judge out of some kind of quid pro quo.
The vacancy came up in the U.S. Court of Appeals in the 2nd District, and Schumer recommended this judge to Biden as someone who would make a good nominee.
This makes sense given that Schumer is a senator from New York.
Nathan serves on the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York, and the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd District covers New York, Vermont, and Connecticut.
It's all New York-based.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Alex is trying to chase the conspiracy world instead of leading it.
He came out celebrating the Maxwell verdict because he assumed that was the right take.
And then he saw that everyone, like Jack Pisobic, was going the other way with it, so he changed his opinion.
He hadn't looked into the case prior to deciding that it was a victory, and he didn't look into it at all in order to change his mind past seeing some tweets.
This is just a dude blowing in the wind.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's nice.
dan friesen
Also, he was real busy when he woke up at one.
He was praying and getting bullied by God.
He was looking into the Gee Lane Maxwell verdict.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Amazing.
jordan holmes
You know, he works well over 14 to 20 hours a day just to make sure that he gives us high quality content.
dan friesen
Oh, and what high-quality content he gives us.
jordan holmes
It's incredibly high quality.
It's so bad.
It's amazing.
And that's kind of a paradox, Dan.
dan friesen
I'm looking for biting analysis of this Maxwell verdict, right?
Because Alex is sure.
He has come out and said it's a victory, but then done so much research that he's figured out its cover-up.
So obviously, if he's done all that, he's got to have a lot of information to present.
jordan holmes
Well, there's got to be a ton of stuff that was covered up.
dan friesen
He wouldn't, like, I don't know, spend a bunch of time doing a terrible attempt at a comedy bit about how he thinks that the judge looks like a man.
He wouldn't do that, would he?
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Oh, does he ever?
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
Is this Matt TV?
alex jones
Defenders and the prosecution and the judge all agreed.
I've got the quotes right here, that we don't need to make a big circus out of this.
That's the quote.
We're not going to release anybody in the black book.
Well, so you're going to aid and abed.
That's what Mr. Nathan's doing.
Aid.
I mean, this guy, this judge, Mr. Nathan, is doing.
I'm sorry, it's a lady.
Allison Nathan, literal protege of Chucky Schumer.
Chucky Schumer.
jordan holmes
Spin it out.
alex jones
Wiener, you got Uba Abedeen.
You got it all.
And then you got Mr. I mean, sorry, not Mr. Rogers, Mr. Nathan.
jordan holmes
Still going.
alex jones
I'm sorry.
Allison Nathan.
And so, you know, here's Allison Nathan, ladies and gentlemen.
Don't all you leftist, young Turks feel good and all the other leftist shows, you know, defending this and covering it up and doing all this.
Don't you feel good about yourselves now?
dan friesen
Yikes.
That was not good.
But it was clearly intended as like he was trying to be funny.
jordan holmes
I guess.
dan friesen
Like he thinks that he was trying to be funny.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Which makes it sadder.
jordan holmes
I think the idea of like stammering through something is enough for him.
dan friesen
He's basically like on the level of Bob Newhart with his stammer comedy.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
It's good.
It's good.
Put him on a USO tour.
Stat.
dan friesen
Alex referenced the young Turks there, and that unfortunately triggered something in his brain where he remembered that in 2013, Jenk was talking to Anna Kasparian.
And he was talking about how if he was a dictator of the world, he would legalize bestiality where you're giving pleasure to the animal.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And this turned into Anna being like, what are you talking about?
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
Of course.
It was a loose conversation.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
It would have to be.
dan friesen
Maybe not to wind up there.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Because the conversation doesn't start there.
dan friesen
I don't think that necessarily is saying he wanted to be a dictator.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Nor was he fully supporting having sex with animals.
jordan holmes
You'd think the context would give you that.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But anyway, Alex remembers this, and he has to spend a lot of time talking about it.
jordan holmes
Somebody needs to.
It's not in the headlines anymore, Dan.
unidentified
This is fresh stuff for you talked about.
alex jones
And by the way, the young turd's leader.
Nice.
I'm not joking.
Put it back on screen.
I forgot he didn't just fantasize about having sex with animals and pleasuring them.
And he would make it legal if he was world dictator.
So he's also fantasizing about, well, you think about being world dictator.
What would you do?
First thing that pops in your head, and not the hundredths, at least in my mind, or the 10,000th, is pleasuring animals.
But first thing when you're dictator of the world is have sex with animals.
I believe that if I were the benevolent dictator of the world, it's very benevolent, you know, I would legalize bestiality where you are giving, where you're pleasuring the animal.
dan friesen
I like to point out that this is supposed to be his coverage of the Maxwell.
jordan holmes
I do recall that we were going to be speaking about anything other than philosophy or bestiality, but apparently I'm wrong.
dan friesen
He has so much nothing on this Maxwell story that he's got to go this route.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
alex jones
See, I want to have fun like you do too.
In fact, I've got a lot of really funny things here today, but you know, at the end of the day, that's not really funny, is it?
jordan holmes
No.
No, it's not.
alex jones
Let's continue here.
Cover-up complete.
At least he isn't into kids.
I mean, he never really made any pro-pedophilic statements, though they defend some of the Democrat pedophile networks and things, like CNN.
I mean, look at that look on, I'm not saying he's into BCL, even though he says he would be the dictator that legalized it.
I'm not saying that he has sex with animals.
He just talks about how much he'd love to legalize it.
But if I was casting somebody, do the wide shot.
Let's look at the mouth.
The mouth's the worst part.
If I was going to cast somebody in a movie that runs a pet store so you can have sex with the animals, including the aquarium fish, it'd be that dude.
I mean, come on.
Come on.
If you had to ask a questionnaire, is that a farmer?
Is that an auto mechanic?
Is that a soldier?
Is that a teacher?
Is that a lawyer?
Yeah, he looks pretty scummy.
Maybe a lawyer.
Is he a pedophile?
I don't know.
No, he looks like he likes to have sex with goats.
So if I was going to cast somebody who has sex with animals, of course, against, I mean, yeah, no, no.
That's not a pedo face.
That's a face.
And seriously, there's something in a face.
jordan holmes
Serious.
alex jones
Where it just tells you what they're into.
jordan holmes
Something.
alex jones
Me.
Enchiladas cold beer in Marilyn Monroe every day of the week.
And I'll tell you about it.
But see, he is over here telling you he's into farm animals.
dan friesen
What the fuck is going on?
jordan holmes
I mean, come on, man.
dan friesen
Last night, God was telling you to take your job seriously.
jordan holmes
Come on, man.
Jesus.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is like, it's so transparent.
It's just, I don't want to talk about this subject that I haven't prepared for.
It's much more fun for me to riff about Jank.
This is where we're going to go with his look at his mouth.
alex jones
Boy.
jordan holmes
Boy.
dan friesen
That's so dumb.
jordan holmes
You know, this reminds me a little bit of.
I told you one of the things that I enjoyed about the joyride with Dana Gould.
And one of the things that I love so much about Dana Gould is after having a 40 goddamn year career in stand-up, his level of confidence in being funny on stage.
He can tell a five-minute story with no laughs, so confident that he's going to get a laugh at the end.
You know, that's just 40 years of experience.
I'm amazed at Alex maintaining and obtaining that same level of confidence, never having received a laugh.
Well, I think it's amazing.
dan friesen
I think one of the ways you get around that is you just assume the audience is laughing.
You can't tell.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, without the instant feedback.
unidentified
I really thought they brought the house down with that thing.
jordan holmes
Well, Jim Brewer did.
dan friesen
Sure.
Alex loves that Jim Brewer.
jordan holmes
Loves Jim Brewer, I believe.
dan friesen
So he tries to get to the actual meat of the subject here.
alex jones
It's not just Alex Jones that is saying all of this.
It's the London Independent.
Gislane Maxwell's little black book to remain secret after Judge Warns Against Needless Name Dropping.
Oh, yeah, we don't want to needlessly name drop who rape little girls, says the judge, the good person.
dan friesen
Alex really needs to do his homework.
That headline kind of works for his narratives, but the body of the article explains the situation in a way that makes everything fall flat.
For one thing, the black book in question is the same one that Gawker published back in 2015.
Second, being listed in this address book does not prove that you were involved with Maxwell and Epstein's child abuse stuff.
That's just a bizarre conclusion for Alex to come to, given that he has a staunch belief in due process, and he really hates people ascribing guilt by association when it involves him.
Yeah, third, as we've already mentioned, the book contains identifying information about victims, and making that public would really only hurt them.
Alex doesn't have any grasp of this story at all.
And the independent article was published on December 14th.
Like, it's not even a new article.
This has nothing to do with the decision involved in Maxwell's conviction.
It was just a matter of course for the trial.
Alex is also ignoring another more recent independent article with the headline: quote, Ghylaine Maxwell's little black book under FBI review, says report.
Authorities vow to pursue anyone who committed a crime with Epstein and Maxwell.
Alex isn't reporting on these kinds of stories.
He's just reading dumb headlines from dumb blogs and social media posts and then getting mad about them without doing any legwork at all.
And that's why he'd rather spend his time talking about jank.
Like, it's much cooler for me.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, what else is there to say with the judgment other than like, okay, who's next?
You know, like, that's what I feel like everybody's saying about the Maxwell judgment.
Like, yeah, she's getting that.
Now, who?
dan friesen
Yeah, it feels like there is forward momentum with the case.
There is a conviction.
Everybody wants to be more.
jordan holmes
Everybody wants more, but yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
You don't want to fuck up and it takes time unless you want to just get pitchforks.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then you might.
jordan holmes
That's a conversation.
alex jones
Wow.
jordan holmes
But you might mess up.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's part of the conversation.
dan friesen
So the globalists want to suck children's energy out because children have this innocence and they can have that vacuumed out of them by the globalists.
jordan holmes
And Nason has a really good one for that.
dan friesen
Alex relates this to something that maybe makes it more understandable.
alex jones
Because everything is about the theft of the innocence energy.
That's like in the movie the Dark Crystal that they did a remake of.
I heard it's really good.
I haven't watched that out of time.
And the Gulflings are childlike and simple and loving and good.
They're the evil skexies that kidnap them and plunge these systems into them to suck their essence and their life force to live forever.
And that's that same archetype that's in fiction over and over and over again because that's what these people are doing.
That's really who they are.
So if you want to wonder why Pfizer is so evil or why Fauci's so evil or why any of them do this.
And it's because interdimensionally, it gets them closely aligned with the transmission that they are wanting to receive.
dan friesen
You need to study the Dark Crystal if you want to understand the real world.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Theoretically, your God invented this whole system.
He had to have.
He's the creator.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Why did he develop a separate economy based upon innocence energy?
Like in Monsters Inc.
dan friesen
Yeah, it does seem not good.
jordan holmes
He could just cut it out.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
On the editing room floor.
It's just been like, hey, should I create this separate economy based upon innocence?
No, maybe not.
dan friesen
Seemed like a good idea at the time.
How?
Because if you retain your innocence, then that gives you power and the money in the economy or whatever.
It would be a good thing there, but then it goes, you know.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's going to go south.
dan friesen
Yeah, certainly.
That is because you'd think he would have seen that coming.
Right.
Well, God didn't watch Dark Crystal.
That's the problem.
jordan holmes
It hadn't been made yet.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, you know, the globalists, they want to take that innocence.
alex jones
Sure.
jordan holmes
You got to have it.
dan friesen
Dark Crystal.
Yep.
But there's something that you can do.
And Alex has a recommendation.
alex jones
And everything they do is about corrupting the youth.
Everything they do is about enslaving the innocent.
And we've got to just spiritually reject them and then say, God, I'm too weak.
This is too big.
I need you to take me over.
And then, as a metaphysical symbol of that, raise your hands and your fingers open like a plant to the sun and say, Save me.
Save me.
Help me.
I want to be good.
I don't want to be satanic.
I'm going to help other people energize me.
Please, God, please help me.
I'm too weak.
I don't know the words to say.
Just help me.
Help me, Jesus.
Help me.
That's what you got to do.
And those of you that are under satanic control, if you can physically do that, it's a big victory.
And you're going to feel a block there.
You're going to feel a block there.
And that's that satanic force.
But the more you cry out, God, like a flamethrower or a laser beam, is going to burn through that hole.
And you're going to watch all hell break loose in your family and all hell break loose in your life.
And all sorts of bad stuff is going to happen right away.
And that's the devil using all his powers to threaten you to not join with God.
And then as soon as that breaks through, you'll go to the next level.
And then God will have missions for you.
Little ones at first, bigger ones at second.
What?
jordan holmes
Hold on.
Damn.
This is getting out there.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
This is a cult.
We're just describing a cult.
dan friesen
I do like the notion that people are like, you know, hey, Alex Jones is right about everything.
You got to listen to Alex Jones, man.
All these people are like, do you have, do they listen to this shit?
jordan holmes
Did you?
Now, if Alex is right about everything, then I believe that means every single person who has ever said that is required right now to throw their hands up to the sky, scream, God, help me, help me, please.
I don't want to be involved with Satan anymore for as long as it fucking takes for God's laser to bust through the energy shield of the devil.
dan friesen
And give you a mission like you're in an RPG.
jordan holmes
And then they need to abandon their families, get rid of them entirely, and slowly.
dan friesen
All hell is going to break loose because it's the devil punishing them.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
They got to do fetch-me quests for another goddamn FF7 character.
dan friesen
You know, you got to think about it.
Life is kind of a collectathon.
jordan holmes
It is.
A little bit.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
A little bit.
dan friesen
So look, when you die, if you did good, good stuff.
jordan holmes
Are you sure?
dan friesen
When you do bad, bad.
jordan holmes
I really think he doesn't understand the whole book, if that's what he thinks.
dan friesen
Well, there is something that is very clearly biblical.
And that is that God scans your DNA like a barcode when you die.
alex jones
And that's what we need to know, ladies and gentlemen.
We're going to cross that river at the end when we die.
And God's going to say, I read you.
I scan you.
You're with me.
That's all.
It's your decisions.
It isn't God that even judges you.
That's a simple human way of seeing it.
It's what we did encoded in our genetics and in our will and our action is read by God when we die.
You're taken by that angel with her hand on you.
And if God rejects you, a literal black hole opens up.
And that angel looks at you and you drop.
You don't want to go there, folks.
Believe me.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
Infowars.com.
Tomorrow's news today.
dan friesen
This is tomorrow's news?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You know, I mean, at the heart of it, though, isn't the heart of most dogma just some nutjob riffing?
You know?
You know, like at the beginning of the day.
Somebody's out there like, where did this fucking thunder come from?
And they're like, man, you don't even want to know about this guy, Zeus.
This guy is tossing Thunderbolt.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, I mean, explanations for phenomenon in nature are often like, you know, it's a pretty creative process.
jordan holmes
Yeah, just kind of riffing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I do think that Alex also has a lot of bizarre specifics in there.
Like, the angel looks at you and then you drop.
The angel has his hand down here.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but you got to have a little flourish to keep it exciting for the cheap seat.
dan friesen
He's got to be able to visualize it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
So Alex comes back from break, and he wants to talk about a fellow that he used to know who's dead now.
alex jones
Let's talk about it right now.
Right now.
You know, I knew Aaron Russo really good.
And I talked to him just about a week before he died.
He was a great filmmaker and made a lot of big movies with Eddie Murphy and was a very smart guy and a big silver trader.
And I liked him a lot.
One of those guys you hung out with, he was like, wow, this guy's got a lot of life in him.
jordan holmes
Traded a lot of silver with that dude.
alex jones
And he talked about how he was hanging out with the Rockefellers and they said, we're going to collapse society.
We're going to bring in a cash flow system.
You're going to have to have a chip.
And if you don't do what we want politically, we'll just turn that chip off.
Yeah, there he is a couple months before he died in Houston getting cancer treatment.
But he was also married to Bette Midler.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
It's when I see Bette Midler in the news, I think about Aaron Russo.
dan friesen
We've discussed this a bit in the past, but the person who Aaron Russo was friends with was a guy named Nicholas Rockefeller, and he wasn't related to the Rockefeller family.
He just had the same name, and the level of investigation that these people do is pathetic.
Also, Bette Midler was never married to Aaron Russo.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
She's been married to Martin Von Hasselberg since 1984.
Russo was, however, her manager for a while, and according to some sources, was a complete creep who tried to take control of her life entirely and was in love with her, though the feelings were unrequited.
I guess he either told Alex they were married and Alex believed it, or Alex is just making that up based on the fact there are a bunch of pictures of the two of them together.
Anyway, this is just an introduction for Alex to complain about Bette Midler's tweet about Joe Manchin that was actually kind of shitty because it was taking aim at like, you know, there was some classism of it, like West Virginia, you fucked up.
Sure, You know, and I think that there's a fair critique you could make probably.
It's not what Alex does.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But anyway, he's talking about Aaron Russo because he's about to get a little bit of a drink.
jordan holmes
Because he's about to get Midler.
dan friesen
And I guess that's his way in.
jordan holmes
So we got a lot of preamble here to give us a personal in towards bitching about Bette Midler.
dan friesen
And if I had to say, I think this is where the show turns.
jordan holmes
Every time you bring up Bette Midler, Dan, everything goes apeshit.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's true since 1984 when she left Aaron Russo.
dan friesen
Nope, they worked together.
Yeah, he gets really impassioned about Bette Midler's comments.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
And he says something that I actually find deeply problematic.
alex jones
And I can tell you right now, Bette Midler, you're not going to live forever.
You're not going to cross that river.
And I'm not here cursing you.
I can just tell you, lady, you better get right with God right now.
I don't know if you still can or what's going on, people like you, but let me just tell you something.
Your hatred of America is because we were once a Christian nation.
It's the same reason you hate Russia today is because they're becoming a Christian nation again.
But you look at that arrogant monster.
dan friesen
You can't really signal more clearly to anti-Semites than that.
Like, Bette Middler is someone who's very associated with her Jewish heritage.
And for Alex to say that the reason she hates America is because it was a Christian nation is pretty overt, even for him.
Like, this is protocol shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not good.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is pretty...
It kind of informs a little bit why he's so...
He gets really impassioned about this Bette Midler situation.
jordan holmes
Man, you know, most days I wake up and I think there's just no way I'm going to talk about somebody who's mad at Bette Midler today.
And most days I'm right.
unidentified
The divine says, today I was not right.
Nope.
dan friesen
He gets pretty mad.
Here's him yelling about how she looks down on West Virginia coal miners.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Just like West Virginia, right?
They're all a bunch of meth heads.
They're a bunch of trash.
We don't need them no more.
We turned off the coal supply.
We don't need them to go 5,000 feet down in the ground and mine anymore and get their lungs all filled up.
We don't need those men no more.
unidentified
They're not like us in Hollywood, sitting there in our fancy mansions.
alex jones
They're pieces of crap.
They're almost as bad as those farmers in Missouri.
Or those farmers in South Dakota or those farmers in California or those farmers.
Where do these people come from?
The attack.
Everything's good, including our children.
And one day, one day, one day, they are going to pay for what they've done.
We're going to stay strong and never surrender.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
dan friesen
That's fucked up.
That tone change.
Pretty quick.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, I will give this to her.
Bet Midler has never brought me to tears, so this is her best acting role to date.
dan friesen
It's upsetting.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Why are we here?
dan friesen
He's tired.
jordan holmes
Why are we here?
What happened to us?
dan friesen
So, interestingly, though, Alex offered up a really good argument to move away from coal mining in that bizarre rant.
If there's other more efficient means to produce energy and the process of mining coal kills workers' lungs and such, maybe that's not the best way to go.
Maybe if you're looking out for these workers, you not want them to be.
jordan holmes
No, no, I romanticize a time whenever we would sacrifice the lives of men and women to literally power our engines.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's good.
dan friesen
Good.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Let's keep that up.
jordan holmes
That's great.
dan friesen
So Alex got really fucked up there at the end.
Don't know what happened.
It was quick.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It seemed to come almost out of nowhere.
jordan holmes
There was a turn.
dan friesen
And I was like, okay, go to break.
Fucking splash some water on your face.
Something.
Get back and like, let's see.
Let's see what we got.
Okay.
He decides to stay on this topic.
jordan holmes
Are you doing cocaine, Alex?
alex jones
It's like Bloomberg.
Who are these farmers?
I mean, what do they do?
These dumbasses.
All you got to do is stick a seed in the ground.
There's not tornadoes.
There's not storms.
There's not bugs.
There's not rocks in the field.
There's not all the scams with all the big combines trying to rip you off when you try to bring your crop to market.
No, no.
They're the bad people.
They're the ones out there trying to raise their families and grow crops that basically don't even exist anymore.
And they're the enemy because they're humans and because they're building something and because they're close to the ground and they're real.
And these Hollywood trash have declared war on us.
jordan holmes
Sir, this is a best Western.
alex jones
I'm not going to get off at them because they are of their father, the devil, and they can't help it.
But I will tell you right now that all these candy-ass Republicans that sit up there and act like they're fighting a new world order when we know damn well what we're up against, I want war against these people.
I want them exposed.
I want them indicted.
I want them arrested.
They committed plenty of crimes.
dan friesen
Look, I get that Alex doesn't like Hollywood folk and he feels like they look down on him, but it also seems like he really cares a lot about them looking down on him.
Seems like if he was really transcendent, like he claims to be and he saw through the bullshit, he would just ignore shit like Bette Midler tweets as opposed to doing what he's doing, which is descending into a rage-filled performative rant.
It's not somebody who doesn't care what Hollywood thinks about him.
Like, that's not what I see here.
I see someone who's really sensitive about how people perceive him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, almost somebody bitter who thinks that something was deserved that he didn't receive because of this.
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Also, what are these crimes that Alex wants to charge these people with?
This was a rant about someone insulting farmers and West Virginia coal miners.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I think that's probably mid-level larceny.
dan friesen
I think that Alex is somebody who's in the past made some tentatively positive statements about free speech.
Don't think he should want the state to get involved with someone who just insults farmers.
jordan holmes
As long as it's not the feds, you know, as long as it's the state government that's controlling free speech, you know, that's fine.
It's a state's rights issue.
dan friesen
So, look, you know what?
The state, not the federal government, the state should destroy Hollywood because they're begging for it.
jordan holmes
The state government should destroy Hollywood?
California state government or Texas' state government?
dan friesen
Probably Texas government.
jordan holmes
Can we have an interstate war?
That's what I want.
I don't want a civil war.
I just want Texas and California to really go at it for once.
dan friesen
There's a couple states in the middle that might have something to say about it.
jordan holmes
Hey, collateral damage.
dan friesen
Anyway, Hollywood's got to be destroyed.
alex jones
They're begging to be destroyed.
They're just begging for it.
unidentified
Please.
alex jones
They're just destroying it.
And all we need to do is culturally, non-violently flamethrow them, barbecue their asses.
Speaking of that, we've got the first domino to fall.
unidentified
Oh.
alex jones
Almost into the show today, folks, because I am really close right now.
See, I can't sign onto this evil.
I will not be part of this.
No.
The first domino to fall happened in Miami, Florida.
We'll cover at the start of the next tower.
Long of the number on Take Your Calls.
jordan holmes
What is that?
alex jones
The first domino fell on the big ABC affiliate.
It's since gone nationwide.
The first domino to fall exposing the poison vax.
dan friesen
Yeah, I would have just not done the show if I were him.
Seems like if that's an option, I wouldn't have done this.
jordan holmes
Every time he says, I wasn't even, I almost didn't do the show today.
He's got to get rid of that almost.
Just start not doing the show.
dan friesen
Yeah, but the thing that's really weird to me is that he was holding it together just fine for a bit.
He was even kind of having fun when he was riffing about Jank wanting to have sex with animals, but now he has fucking lost it.
jordan holmes
Once Bette Midler comes into play, it's all off the table, buddy.
dan friesen
His mood swings are so intense, and it's kind of scary to see how much things fluctuate just in the span of a few hours.
He's fucking lost touch.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
Hey, hey, Alex is really great to hang out with.
Just one thing to let you know.
If you don't want to have a bad night, all you got to do is just avoid Bette Midler.
dan friesen
Don't bring her up.
jordan holmes
Okay?
dan friesen
I don't think necessarily it is like a drug or stimulant thing.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But I do know that people I have known who did a lot of cocaine were certainly inconsistent in their mood.
jordan holmes
That is true.
That is true.
Now, a lot of Bette Midler fans I know also inconsistent with their mood.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
So in that clip, he's also saying, like, the first domino has fallen.
I'm like, what the hell does that mean?
What do you think it means?
jordan holmes
It means the first domino has fallen.
The one that's going to set the entire job.
dan friesen
The first domino, though.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, an ABC affiliate.
There was a tiger that attacked.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Oh, never mind.
dan friesen
Here it is.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
We already launched this contest.
$5,000.
unidentified
Oh, no.
alex jones
For every person that gets out nationally, and this counts.
Exposing the globalist agenda.
Watch the InfoWars.
Yeah, put that head on back up for me so I can read it.
Watch the InfoWars Photo Bomb.
The InfoWars Photo Bomb Challenge has begun.
unidentified
That's the first domino again.
alex jones
By the way, people say, Jones, you sound drunk right now.
I'm not drinking right now.
Right now.
I'm drunk on the Holy Spirit right now.
I am hammered as hell right now on Christ.
Seriously.
dan friesen
I honestly didn't think Alex was drunk until he said he wasn't.
Yeah.
It didn't even cross my mind.
jordan holmes
I wasn't going to think about it.
dan friesen
This doesn't seem like drunk, Alex.
It seems kind of normal, honestly.
He's an out-of-control, angry, emotionally, and unstable asshole.
Like, you don't need substances, really.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You've got that under control.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, or not.
jordan holmes
I mean, yes, obviously.
dan friesen
So, Alex is doing another contest.
jordan holmes
Paradox.
dan friesen
Alex is doing another contest, which is basically just him desperately trying to pay people to promote his website by disrupting live news reports.
If the goal were really just to wake up the public and to the supposed dangers of the COVID shot, you'd expect to see that, you know, what a person needed to yell on camera to get the prize is just yelling about COVID.
But as always, that's not what they need to do.
They also need to yell infowars.com if they want to get their money because that's what this is all about.
Of course, I understand that Alex is desperate for attention and anything he can monetize right now, but this seems like a poor use of resources.
He's going on about how Infowars might shut down in a matter of months if people don't buy a ton of his products, and then he turns around and does a stupid publicity stunt like this.
It seems like mixed messaging.
I don't know.
I think this is a bad idea.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, I mean, on the other hand, if you're fairly certain you're going to lose everything shortly, fucking Brewster's millions, it, you know, like just start throwing money away, toss it out the window, and I get that.
dan friesen
But what kind of a message does that send to the audience?
jordan holmes
I'm broke, so I'm going to give you money.
I don't know.
dan friesen
I'd be confused if I were listening and I believed anything he said, I would be very confused.
jordan holmes
As far as an advertising strategy goes, exactly how would you analyze the return on investment per $5,000?
You know, like, are you getting increased traffic?
dan friesen
I mean, you'd have to then figure out how much of that traffic translates to sales.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
It must work, or at least it must be a beneficial thing because he's done these contests.
The Bill Clinton is a rapist one was big.
That was apparently pretty successful.
jordan holmes
That would have been the first domino.
dan friesen
I think the CNN is ISIS one did not work as well.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
It's a mouthful.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That one, I don't know.
But then, yeah, he's trying again.
Great.
jordan holmes
Good luck.
dan friesen
Hooray.
So that's the first domino.
jordan holmes
That's right.
I forgot.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And also, it's interesting to hear how kind of unenthused he sounds.
jordan holmes
You know, this isn't going to be that good.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He knows it.
We know it.
dan friesen
Let's get to some more headlines.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Some of these headlines are just unbelievable.
I mean, look at this one: men's health.
You know, oh, men's health.
Lift weights, jog, ride bikes, massage, take vitamins.
Oh, no, no, no.
You don't tune into men's health for that.
Just like you tune into young Turks, learn about how great bestiality is, or you tune into like third-grade English class, learn how great pedophilia is.
You read men's health to learn how wonderful men taking hormones so they can breastfeed is whatever the hell that means.
I mean, it's a hormone kit that lets men breastfeed could be available soon.
And yes, if a man takes enough hormones, they might produce a couple of drops of milk a day.
You're not going to feed a baby.
unidentified
It doesn't matter.
alex jones
It's all getting you ready for this alien world of like, oh, there's clones.
Oh, there's GMO animal-human hybrids.
Oh, there's transgender.
Oh, there's aliens.
Oh, there's aliens.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, first of all, this article that Alex is talking about from Men's Health was published in October 2018.
No idea why this is one of the big news items he's got for today.
alex jones
Wow.
dan friesen
I get that he needs to take every opportunity to attack trans people, but this is a little thin, and it's not even about trans folk.
This is about somebody who invented a hormone kit that men can take while their partner is pregnant in order to make it so they can assist their partner if they have difficulty breastfeeding.
They would then stop taking the hormones once the baby was done breastfeeding.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
If Alex wants to be a competent bigot like he presents himself as, he needs to try a little harder.
Smith's reporting articles from over three years ago is just, that's not going to cut it.
This is sad.
jordan holmes
I mean, now that I know it's possible for you to take hormone treatment and then breastfeed, I'm okay with clones.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
I think that, yeah, aliens, all of this stuff.
Now that I've seen that, anything's possible.
dan friesen
Get you ready.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
I'm prepared for cloning.
Only, but only for breastfeeding.
I only want to clone myself, have that person take the hormones, and then breastfeed for me.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Surrogate breastfeeder.
dan friesen
So, you know, we're not dealing with a lot of great news here today.
Not really on the ball from 2018.
Look, Alex can't even plug without being a depressing mope because I guess he's upset about Bette Medler still.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
You know, if I don't do this, we won't be here.
So let me just do this now.
A couple of big announcements here.
First big announcement is I need to take some time off just because when you get so close to Brinstone so long, I want to be here all the time.
You lose perspective.
So I don't want to create a big conspiracy when I'm gone for a while.
But, you know, I think at this point, it's kind of becoming a place of what are you going to do?
Kind of like I'm going to hand the baton to you, you know.
Cool.
Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.
Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again.
That's really what I want to do.
I never want to come back here again.
unidentified
My time is almost over.
alex jones
My stories are almost over.
dan friesen
Take a nap.
jordan holmes
What the fuck is this maudlin bullshit?
alex jones
And you won't think that's dramatic once you figure out it's real.
But then I say, support us, keep us on air.
It's a paradox.
unidentified
It is not.
alex jones
It's a paradox.
jordan holmes
A paradox.
alex jones
Everything's a paradox.
dan friesen
Everything.
jordan holmes
Everything is a paradox.
dan friesen
Everything.
jordan holmes
Nothing.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he's like, I'm going to quit.
I'm going to never come back here.
But also, I need you to buy my product so I can stay here.
It's a paradox.
jordan holmes
It's a paradox.
It's great.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex is in a bad mood.
And he's setting records.
For the first time ever, he's in a certain state.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And the Holy Spirit is now literally showing me Alex Jones's end.
My exit.
No longer on air, gone.
And then I think, well, I better do some good broadcast here at the end.
And maybe that's not what I'm going to do.
dan friesen
Maybe not.
jordan holmes
Maybe back, especially.
alex jones
This is the first time in 28 years on air.
I've got one foot already out of this because you're going to have to deal with this yourselves now.
They're coming to kill you and your family.
And I want to be here with you when this is all happening.
jordan holmes
But I won't.
alex jones
But if God tells me to never come back to the studio again and leave, that's what's going to happen, folks.
So, every broadcast you watch and every broadcast you see may be my last.
Now, whatever happens, I want to try to stay on air as long as possible.
We have the new sale.
If you don't buy it, we won't be on air.
Plus, it's game-changing.
They don't want you to have it, the iodine conspiracy.
dan friesen
That's amazing.
jordan holmes
I mean, God, just look, I'm out of here.
dan friesen
The Holy Spirit's showing me my end.
Every show might be my last one, but also we got a sale on iodine.
jordan holmes
Just the idea that somebody is listening and was like, oh, whoo, almost forgot what I was planning to buy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
Oh, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that's that's a lot of fun.
jordan holmes
That is a lot of fun.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's great.
That's great.
There's just so much to enjoy in there.
dan friesen
He has his foot out the door.
jordan holmes
He's got his foot out the door.
dan friesen
For the first time in his entire career.
I would argue that in my experience, he seemed like he's had his foot out the door a number of times.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would say.
dan friesen
He's been non-committal and a little bit detached at times.
jordan holmes
I would say at least yearly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
At least yearly.
It comes and goes.
I think that having seen stuff like this in the past from Alex, not this severe, no, no, no.
But having seen things like this in the past, I look back on those and like, I thought there was meaning in it.
And I don't think there's meaning in this.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
There is just Alex is in a bad mood.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's lashing out.
He's just sad.
He's just really not doing well.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, that sucks.
That sucks that you're in a situation where you can't even be, you can't even rely on just being professional, you know?
Like, I'm sure, you know, if you're on TV, you have bad days, and sometimes you got to go to work and be on camera when you're not feeling it.
What you do is you go to a different place and you just rely on professionalism.
This is Alex's professionalism.
dan friesen
Well, it's that he doesn't have any.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
This is what he's got.
He's got being miserable so people can see it.
That's all.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But I even still think it's a bit performative.
It's not like he's having a bad time and so he's sincerely bearing his heart.
jordan holmes
Oh, totally.
dan friesen
There is something to, you know, somebody who allows a lot of authenticity in their public presentation of themselves.
Of course.
I think there's some value in that, although, you know, it's probably a tough thing to do.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's not what he's doing.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
This is a guy who's really.
jordan holmes
This is melodramatic.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Well, I mean, we started this with the 31st, and he said it's not dramatic.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, this is a little bit over the top.
dan friesen
Also, on the 31st, he said, I wasn't actually thinking of quitting.
jordan holmes
Hey, was anybody doing cocaine that day?
dan friesen
Probably not.
So, look, he's got to get himself back in the mood.
And he's going to do that by reading the headline of today's broadcast.
unidentified
Ooh.
alex jones
You know, look at today's show headline.
It's a pretty big deal.
Thursday Live.
Think about what goes into that.
It's like live.
It's real.
It's in the middle.
unidentified
No.
alex jones
No.
It's in touch.
jordan holmes
Stop this.
alex jones
And then it goes on.
Top scientists, which is true, around the world have reached a consensus.
jordan holmes
You're stalling.
You're stalling.
Jesus Christ.
alex jones
The COVID vax is a depopulation weapon.
And I can play you hundreds of top scientists, which we've done.
From Dr. Michael Yidon to Robert Malone to Wolf King Wu Dog to Dr. Zelinko saying the same thing because it's true.
But the full horror of that is so hard to deal with.
Do you blame the general public for not being able to understand it?
And yeah, the public's dumbed down and decadent.
In a way, they do deserve to die.
But we're not God.
We don't make that decision.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So the headline for the day's show is that top scientists around the world have reached a consensus that the COVID vaccine is a depopulation weapon.
Have not really touched on that at all.
No.
Mostly talked about Jank and tried to talk about the.
jordan holmes
I hate Ben Midler.
dan friesen
Yeah, seems to have gotten off track there a little bit.
So we have other things to discuss, though.
Like, there's other things in the news.
Like, did you know that Jeff Bezos was recently pictured on a yacht?
jordan holmes
I did not know that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, great.
dan friesen
Alex has a lot of feelings about it.
alex jones
How about this, Jeff?
unidentified
Jeff.
alex jones
How about while you're out there all drunk with all your women?
jordan holmes
Yeah, Jeff.
alex jones
You stop funding transgenderism trying to chop five-year-old boys' balls off.
jordan holmes
Because that's the problem.
alex jones
You can go have your women and be on the yacht.
We love that.
unidentified
Great.
alex jones
We love that.
Humans, babies.
Prime Minimary.
jordan holmes
No.
No, you're understanding this wrong.
alex jones
Seven planets yourself.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Will you just leave us alone?
Will you stop trying to hurt us?
Will you stop trying to starve us?
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
You're the alpha.
I get it.
I get it.
You're supposed to show us how it's done.
You get a yacht.
We get to starve to death.
I understand.
dan friesen
Wait, earlier he said that it's fine if he has a yacht.
jordan holmes
Yeah, what's happening?
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Now it's a class struggle, but it's fine if you're on the other class side.
I don't know.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
But I've taken a look at you and I'm taking a look at Bill Gates.
And we have decided that you're not our leaders.
And the people have decided you're not the leaders.
jordan holmes
We didn't get a choice.
alex jones
You haven't noticed.
And so I tell you now, you will be destroyed as soon as the sun comes up if you don't start getting with God's program.
And if you don't stop serving Satan and serving these lies and serving these frauds, you think you're going to be safe in a societal collapse that you're going to organize and control and that you're going to end up immune from this with you and all of your little drunken women out there on your floaties.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
alex jones
And you got to love the wife.
I mean, in every photo, just posing, posing, posing, posing, sir.
In love with herself.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
They both look like they probably took a hit of ecstasy when they're out there.
jordan holmes
Fire.
alex jones
They're just totally in this dream of the man and the woman together in paradise.
But they don't understand that if you don't try to give everybody else paradise, God flushes you down the toilet.
dan friesen
Wait, what?
jordan holmes
What is happening?
dan friesen
Are you for redistribution of this?
jordan holmes
This is absolute bananas town.
This is a whole fucking mess of garbled nonsense.
dan friesen
I think Alex just got mad because he saw a picture of Bezos with a hot lady on a boat.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know what?
That's fine.
I don't know what this is.
dan friesen
He's having a tough day.
He's having a tough day.
So Alex earlier said that people might think he's drunk, but he's not.
He's drunk on the Holy Spirit.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Someone else has decided that maybe he's drunk.
alex jones
Oh.
I just had one of my crew members say, hey, man, are you drinking?
Oh, no.
I am literally completely freaked out.
I have been up since 1:15 this morning.
I went to bed about 10 p.m.
And I'm just so upset.
dan friesen
I mean, this isn't a good sign, man.
Like, whether you're drunk or not, it's a bad sign.
Like, if a crew member asks Alex if he's drunk, that's an indication that the crew member is noticing that Alex is behaving in ways that are similar to how someone might be impaired if they were drunk.
Also, I'm getting suspicious a little.
Alex is being really defensive about not being drunk, but I still don't think that his behavior matches how he usually acts when he's fucked up.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
This seems just to be like a depressed dude.
Maybe he's going through withdrawals or something.
Something.
Yeah, that I could buy.
This is like an alcohol withdrawal.
Like that, that kind of inconsistency is possible.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, if you don't understand that the question when somebody says, Hey, Alex, are you drunk?
Is more an accusation of poor behavior than it is like a concern like hey Alex, are you drunk, how are you doing so?
dan friesen
Well no typically, like if somebody asks you if you're drunk, like you better the answer better be yes, because if you're not, then your behavior is right in some way.
jordan holmes
That's the point.
Yeah, that's the point of that question yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway look, he's not drunk, but he might quit.
alex jones
I mean, info wars will continue on, but maybe I should just quit.
Maybe today should be my less broadcast.
jordan holmes
Do it, do it.
alex jones
Dr. Peter McCullough is coming in tomorrow.
I'll be here for that, but I might quit tomorrow actually, and then just turn it all over until everybody else host it and I'm just done.
jordan holmes
Whiny baby.
alex jones
I mean maybe I've run my course and I'm not giving into the enemy.
I just I feel like my time might have come to an end here.
I mean, I'm serious, I'm really.
People know folks, I don't just say stuff for dramatic effect.
This might, this might be the end folks.
dan friesen
Yeah, you constantly say things for dramatic effect, but like, I kind of agree with him really, I think he's gotten to the end of his usefulness.
Yeah yeah yeah, like he's not really that effective as a conspiracy theorist.
He's full of shit.
Clearly he's not making enough money to continue behaving the way he is right, with consequences mounting, exactly um.
So yeah, maybe he has outlived his uh, his usefulness.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I suppose if I was really coming to the end of something that i'd spent 30 years really, all told building, you know, and realizing that what I was leaving behind was a legacy, but also i'm still going to be alive for another 40 years or whatever, I mean in Alex's case, who knows?
But like, that's a real bummer, you know, you don't want to go.
What is he gonna do after this?
He's not gonna do something after this.
He's not gonna build a new thing.
His, his achievement is over and he still has to keep on living.
You know, it's like, it's like uh, it's like Neil Armstrong.
dan friesen
I disagree.
He could go back to his roots.
Do Public Access TV?
jordan holmes
I want, I want that.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a lot of.
jordan holmes
I would like some public access television.
dan friesen
He could go and re-infiltrate Bohemian Grove after this many years to be like you know what.
jordan holmes
Let's take a flyer on Alex.
unidentified
Yeah, let's give him the one o'clock slot, awesome.
dan friesen
So look, maybe he's not supposed to be on air.
Maybe that's the deal I would say for today definitely yeah yeah, 100.
Generally it's debatable, but today yeah, you shouldn't be on air.
Oh yeah, um and.
And Alex is like maybe, maybe it's time for me to do something else.
There's a higher priority.
alex jones
It's like i'm not supposed to be on air in the time that's coming.
It's not that they're gonna put me in jail or shut me down is the reason I would quit.
It's the opposite of that.
It's like they're gonna do that anyways.
I just need to get ready to die, just like you're about to die.
That's all.
It's just.
It's almost obscene to be on air during this time chronicling the murder of our children, chronicling the death.
I mean, it's what God wants.
You know, we did this.
We're all going to die.
We're liberal now.
It's trendy.
dan friesen
What the hell is happening?
jordan holmes
I don't know, but he better start playing Notorious BIG or I'm going to be furious.
dan friesen
Look, dude, maybe I shouldn't be on air because there's more important things like preparing to die.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You should prepare to die.
Prepare to die, sir.
dan friesen
What's the experience of listening to this show?
I don't know.
Take it seriously.
He's doing all this on this Thursday show.
And then on a Friday, he immediately comes in.
He's like, look, I was in a bad mood.
I wasn't ever really going to quit.
I wasn't saying that for dramatic effect.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
But look at this shit.
No, I mean, this is a drunken weekend dad at 3:30 a.m. waking his kids up with thoughts that they need to know.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex had promised calls.
He said he was going to go to the calls.
Maybe not.
alex jones
All right.
I said I'd take phone calls.
But I don't even want to do that.
Church.
Because here's the deal.
I can try to prop up InfoWars.
But hasn't Infowars kind of done its work?
I mean, I always said we want to become obsolete at some point.
And I love this crew.
But if I'm gone, then the crew can organize and do whatever they're going to do and be who they are.
And maybe that'll give them an incentive because they do a great job.
Because I'm here on air right now.
I mean, I'll tell you, I'm not going to be back for weeks at this point.
I'm walking out of here.
I guess tomorrow's like this guess.
Hello, we can have the doctor Peter McCauley in there.
I'll walk out of here today.
Okay.
And that's it.
dan friesen
Fuck this place.
jordan holmes
I swear the only ultimate torture for Alex is just he should have to work in an office, just like a regular old office.
Just be an employee.
Make copies of stuff.
dan friesen
Have a boss.
jordan holmes
Just fucking have to deliver mail.
You know, just work.
dan friesen
The thing that I find particularly hilarious about this is this whole like preoccupation with I'm walking out of here and I'm never coming back.
Jesus.
But he's still finishing the show.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, of course.
I'm going to get out of here.
I've got 25 minutes left.
Listen, I'm a broadcaster.
I'm a professor.
dan friesen
I'm going to ramble about how I'm going to leave for the next 20 minutes.
jordan holmes
For the next 20 minutes.
dan friesen
So stupid.
jordan holmes
I got to finish it.
You do your time.
That's Chicago comedy all the way through.
dan friesen
So Alex has, you know, one of the reasons that he thinks that it's probably time for him to hang it up is it kind of sounds sensible in some ways, but I think if you actually look at it, it's really revealing and damning.
alex jones
And then people can speculate and they can talk about it all.
And why is Jones not doing a show?
And why is Jones gone?
Well, because, I mean, it's not entertainment to talk about them murdering children in masks with GMO gene therapies.
It's not just, oh, look at this article.
Oh, look, they defrunded the police here and all these congress people got carjacked.
And oh, look over here.
They're saying all the veterans are terrorists.
It becomes a sick facade to just sit there and report on it.
And at a certain point, I can't do that anymore.
dan friesen
So Alex views his show as entertainment.
And part of that entertainment is him pretending to cover stories by reading headlines and then yelling about whatever he thinks they mean.
He'll pretend to be a journalist, but that's just part of the entertainment of the show.
That's basically the preference.
jordan holmes
Wouldn't it be funny if a journalist did these things?
dan friesen
Yes.
I mean, I don't think he would put it that way.
jordan holmes
Right.
But yeah.
dan friesen
Now that he's sensationalized his narratives to the point where everyone is constantly about to die, the stakes of what he's doing are a little bit elevated.
If you sincerely believe that these vaccines are designed to kill all the children in America and no one else with the size platform that you have is covering it, you have an obligation to go do a really serious job and report out that information.
If you believe that stuff, there really isn't time for entertainment.
It's time to do some serious work where you get into the details and you prove claims.
Alex doesn't want to do that because it's hard and he's lazy, but he's backed himself into a corner where his narratives are so serious that they demand actual work.
But all he's capable of doing is entertaining, doing this yelling show where he's pretending to be a reporter.
I'd want to quit too if I were him.
There aren't a ton of good options for him moving forward with the narrative set that he's built.
And the audience that believes those narratives probably isn't the best audience for him to have anymore.
An audience that believes that the vaccines are designed to kill all the children are going to get really suspicious if you profess to believe that too, and you don't advocate taking up arms against the people pushing the vaccine.
Things got too real and too immediate for him in InfoWar.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Like it's easy to get away with profiting off preaching doom that's coming at some undetermined point in the future, but it's got to be super exhausting to have to try and convince an audience that doom is constantly happening right now, but also you shouldn't do the things that would make sense to do based on them.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
It's the problem of escalation when you get down to it every time.
10 years ago, hey, there's an economic collapse coming.
It's going to be the summer change.
It's going to be there.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You got to invest in gold.
That is a far more sustainable message than the government's murdering you in your sleep right now, and everything you do is only taking you one step towards death.
dan friesen
And if you're not fighting, and behind that is the devil.
jordan holmes
And behind that is the devil.
dan friesen
And if you don't fight against my enemies, my political enemies, it will mean the damnation of your eternal soul.
jordan holmes
And hey, at the end of the day, that's still going to be a good time to invest in gold.
dan friesen
Probably.
Or at least that silver coin that was awarded.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I just think this is ridiculous.
Like, this isn't entertainment anymore is not a thing that someone like Alex Jones should ever be allowed to yell.
He's supposed to be the person who has this access to a greater truth than anybody else.
He can see through the news and give you like all the stuff that they're hiding.
He knows all the real reality.
He's got deep sources.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
That's not supposed to be entertaining.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And when you're talking about all the COVID conspiracies that he's been spinning forever, that's never been entertainment.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
That has affected people's lives.
jordan holmes
Right.
Yeah.
You don't want the you don't want the next episode of The Simpsons to have them be like, listen, honestly, this has kind of been shitty for the last 10 years, hasn't it?
Hasn't it?
We had a good run.
We had a good run.
I don't even know if I want to do this.
Eat my shorts again.
Again, I'm going to eat my shorts.
Really?
Is that what we're going to do?
dan friesen
I'm going to leave and never come back.
jordan holmes
I'm never coming back.
dan friesen
Homer is just.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go back.
That would be a good episode.
dan friesen
I'm gone for at least a few weeks.
So anyway, maybe it's time to hang it up.
alex jones
Yeah.
But maybe my time on air is over.
Now maybe it's about what are you going to do?
What are you going to say?
Let's talk about something positive.
Let's actually get to some of the news here.
This is Stefan Rivera.
And Stefan Rivera is the name of the YouTube channel that he has.
And he jumped on Andrew Perez's program on ABC News in Miami yesterday.
dan friesen
It's the guy who did the content.
jordan holmes
We already did this.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's the good news.
jordan holmes
That's the good news.
Let's switch over to some good news.
Somebody did a little thing for me.
dan friesen
And I paid them $5,000.
jordan holmes
$5K.
Somebody did a little thing.
Popped up on ABC 7.
That's cool.
That's some good news.
dan friesen
Man.
jordan holmes
Talk about silver linings.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
It's been a bad day.
You're all going to die.
Well, and maybe you should.
dan friesen
Maybe you should prepare.
jordan holmes
Somebody was on ABC 6, though.
dan friesen
Great news.
jordan holmes
That's good news.
dan friesen
So we got one last clip here.
Okay.
And Alex is talking about how the media was saying that he only said that he was going to dish dirt on Trump because he's afraid of the January 6th committee and how he's trying to curry favor by.
Is the media saying that?
I didn't see that.
jordan holmes
I didn't see the media saying that.
dan friesen
I'm not sure.
I don't know.
I imagine somebody tweeted it.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
dan friesen
I believe that's something someone might have said.
jordan holmes
Sure, why not?
dan friesen
I don't know if it was a large popular opinion.
Who knows?
jordan holmes
Yeah, whatever it is you want to say, somebody probably tweeted it.
dan friesen
But Alex did, in addition to this, he recognized that he got a lot of attention out of it.
Yes.
It was all over the place.
There were articles written about it.
jordan holmes
Everybody loves the dirt.
dan friesen
Yeah, and so he decides he's going to try and do that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
alex jones
I'm going to just sit down in my office with an iPhone or a droid recording me, and I'll just talk about Trump because I just settle down a little bit and you just talk about what the dirt is on Trump.
I mean, what is the dirt on Trump?
You know, maybe I should wait till next week.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
alex jones
Maybe I should take a week off and do it because then I can really dish all the dirt.
And not to hurt Trump, but to separate myself from him and the corrupt establishment pushing this poison shot.
Shut up, Jones, and go to phone calls.
X2's back in stock.
Yeah, baby.
jordan holmes
That's how you do it.
alex jones
For your mind, sell me.
Your immune system, your libido, it is the missing link.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
He's rambling about nonsense, dishing dirt on Trump.
Yells at himself to get back to calls and then immediately does a vlog.
jordan holmes
Let's do the work.
dan friesen
Yep.
So he goes to break and he comes back and he does take some calls.
And one guy calls in and he's like, hey, back when I used to have a job and I'd take a break and I'd go get high.
I always wondered if people could tell when I came back that I was high.
And your show had shown me that they couldn't.
jordan holmes
Yes, they could.
unidentified
Alex is not happy with this.
dan friesen
Alex is like, oh, you're accusing me of doing cocaine.
And so one of the reasons that I have been kind of open to the possibility that he was doing cocaine is because after this call, he is so taken aback by it that he has to get Jason Burmese in the control booth or whatever to chime in on air.
He's like, hey, Jason, have you ever seen me do Coke?
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
It seems like a strange response to have to the suggestion that you're doing blow.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, it seems like the hyper-defensive suggestion of somebody who is doing something that's not blow and would prefer you didn't call it that.
dan friesen
Well, and also, yeah, Rogan talked to him when he was on his show about how he talked about having a problem with Adderall, and that's another stimulant.
It's well within the possibility that he did something like that.
jordan holmes
But he doesn't want you to say that he's doing cocaine because he would never do cocaine on the show.
dan friesen
Sure.
The thing that's so bizarre about that, too, is like Jason Burmes is back.
jordan holmes
Why not?
dan friesen
I've seen a couple of his videos pop up on the Infowars feed and such, but he's been gone for a long time.
jordan holmes
Well, desperate times, you need the heroes back, my friend.
dan friesen
I mean, he's the guy who made Loose Change.
He's old school with Alex.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Back when Alex didn't have any other shows, it was just his show.
Even before the nightly news, there was the InfoWarrior hosted by Jason Burmes.
jordan holmes
Damn.
dan friesen
Like, this is, like, what is he doing there?
jordan holmes
Where has he been?
When you're at your lowest, it is the best friends from your past who come to save you, I think.
I guess.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, he gets that call.
He has Jason vouch for him that he's not doing Coke.
And then Alex goes back to calls and he gets a call from Bible Dan.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
He wants to argue pre-trib rapture.
jordan holmes
Of course.
Yeah, baby.
dan friesen
And Alex gets mad at him then leaves.
jordan holmes
Hearing your depressed, three-hour-long, whiny diatribe about how you don't want to do the only thing you've ever been good at.
Yeah, that's the time to talk pre-trib rap.
dan friesen
I don't even want to have a theological conversation.
unidentified
I love it.
jordan holmes
Of course he doesn't.
dan friesen
And so after that, he's like, fuck the calls.
I'm not doing this.
And he just interviews Jason Burmas for a little bit.
jordan holmes
It's disappointing.
I really do think that his best shot would be to actually dish on Trump, you know?
dan friesen
But he probably doesn't have anything.
jordan holmes
He doesn't have anything.
That's why he gets to threaten it.
dan friesen
But he even said that when he said he was going to dish the dirt on Trump, he did.
And that on the show, he said that Trump doesn't know what he's doing.
And that the whole thing about multi-dimensional chess is bullshit.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And he said that that's the dirt that he had.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Which that's not how it was presented on the episode.
jordan holmes
No, no.
dan friesen
He said, like, next hour, I'm going to get to the dirt.
It was implied that there was something else.
jordan holmes
Oh, the dirt is just that Trump is a moron.
dan friesen
We know great.
Yeah, and also the whole like fifth-dimensional chess and all that stuff.
You were saying that too.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So you lied to your audience in order to over-inflate Trump's credibility and heroicness.
So that's a good thing.
That's some good dirt.
jordan holmes
You should keep that on your mantelpiece.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that it would possibly be good for him to make up dirt about Trump.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Why not?
Why not?
I mean, it's like the whole, they've moved on from Trump.
Trump is gone.
The Republican Party is gone.
It's just whatever these weirdos want to push now.
That's it.
dan friesen
Well, I think that a large, very vocal block of the GOP base is perhaps what you're describing.
I don't know if it's uniform.
I'm not saying that it's not.
jordan holmes
No, I don't know.
I'm just saying that who's pushing the wheels of power now are not people.
It's not Trump, you know?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
They've left Trump behind.
Scary.
dan friesen
Yeah, it does seem kind of rudderless in terms of like some kind of idea of who's the leader of the party.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's no leader.
There's only an enemy.
That's not good.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But Alex has got to go.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Now is a good time.
dan friesen
But look, hey, the next day he showed up, I didn't actually want to quit.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Hey, listen, I know I spent three hours telling you that all of you deserved death for not supporting me enough.
Yeah.
But you know what?
I'm feeling better today.
dan friesen
Look, I took a nap and I guess I forgot about Bette Midler and now I'm going to have a much better friend.
jordan holmes
Oh my God, I said Bette Midler again.
dan friesen
I'm going to quit.
jordan holmes
Oh, I got to get out of here.
You all deserve death.
dan friesen
I do like, though, that the end of the year, 2021, the year that was gets to go out with Alex threatening to quit and being so fucking over his job.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
The year ended much like it began with Alex as a whiny baby threatening to quit his show.
dan friesen
Yeah, full of resignation and impotent rage meant to fundraise.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's great.
Anyway, Jordan, we'll be back on another episode where we'll get into the current year.
We'll say goodbye to last year.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we'll have to figure out another.
dan friesen
22, buckle my shoe.
jordan holmes
No, I was thinking that.
I was thinking here's looking at you.
No, it's terrible.
22 Skidoo.
No, how about 22 Jump Street?
No.
No, okay.
22s?
dan friesen
No.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
We'll figure it out.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway, we'll be back.
But we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we do.
It's KnowledgeFight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, World's on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
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Yep, we'll be back.
dan friesen
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
jordan holmes
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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