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Jan. 20, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
02:20:46
#522: January 14-17, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan get back to the important work of reviewing Alex Jones' path toward the end of Trump's presidency. In this installment, Alex reveals that Jack from Twitter considers him "a guru," wrestles with realizing an old friend was using him, and finds yet another patsy for the events of January 6th.

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alex jones
29:21
d
dan friesen
01:02:17
j
jordan holmes
32:08
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m
mike adams
04:22
p
pete santilli
01:35
s
steve quayle
02:01
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brian stelter
00:36
e
ezra levant
00:17
r
robert barnes
00:33
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
It's time to pray.
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan, knowledge fight.
alex jones
I need, I need money.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your room.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
alex jones
Jordan!
jordan holmes
I have a quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan, is...
So I mentioned not too long ago, a little while back, Policywonk Lisa signed us up for the Hot Sauce of the Month Club.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
And I got the second installment of the Hot Sauce of the Month Club.
I like it.
And I think it's called FYM Sauce.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I don't know what it stands for.
jordan holmes
Fuck your mother.
dan friesen
Or fuck your mouth.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Something.
alex jones
I hope it's not that.
jordan holmes
That's creepier.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, you're putting...
jordan holmes
I understand that.
dan friesen
I don't mean, I mean, fuck your mouth and, like, fuck your feelings.
jordan holmes
I understand that.
dan friesen
Forget about your mouth.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, you can say that a lot of different ways.
dan friesen
Sure.
It's very challenging, the sauce.
I had some on some chicken nuggets last night.
jordan holmes
Would you say it's a real motherfucker?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Yes, it definitely is.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
I tossed the nuggets in the sauce.
Uh-huh.
For a good couple hours afterwards, I was sort of like, whoa, Nelly.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Sweating from the face a good bit.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Took me for a ride.
I really enjoyed it.
Although, stomach, stomach had some...
jordan holmes
All those noises that you made do not denote a joyful ride.
dan friesen
No, generally not, but I enjoyed it.
It was good.
It was good.
The first month was really...
It was good.
It was hot, but it wasn't like...
It wasn't a trial.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
Kafka had nothing to do with it.
dan friesen
Yeah, this came fast.
It ramped up really fast, and it creeped on you, too.
jordan holmes
I see.
dan friesen
Good stuff.
jordan holmes
I believe you.
dan friesen
I'm ready for month three already, though.
jordan holmes
Yes, I believe you.
dan friesen
What about you?
jordan holmes
Dan, my bright spot is I finally got my equipment worked out.
I finally got it all set up.
And I did a little bit of streaming today.
unidentified
Video game streaming.
jordan holmes
I did a little bit of video game streaming.
dan friesen
Congratulations, over on Twitch.
jordan holmes
Played Final Fantasy VII, the remake.
unidentified
Awesome.
jordan holmes
My plan is I've decided to riff the whole game.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like MST3K, but for Final Fantasy VII.
dan friesen
That sounds fun.
jordan holmes
That's my plan.
dan friesen
Also, very difficult.
I mean, paying attention to playing and trying to talk at the same time.
jordan holmes
It's very hard.
dan friesen
I think it's an acquired skill, too.
You'll get better at it as you go along.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I enjoyed it.
It was good times.
unidentified
Good times.
dan friesen
I look forward to joining you at some point while you do these video game streams.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed you will.
dan friesen
And make fun of your terrible play.
jordan holmes
I can't wait.
It'll be great.
dan friesen
Oh, look at you.
jordan holmes
It's, uh, yeah.
dan friesen
Using that material.
jordan holmes
I realize that just randomly saying I'm going to start at 2 central on a day, but it's like I finally got everything worked out so that it would work.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And you know me, I don't do well with, like, delaying, oh, we're going to start doing that now.
It's like, now!
Begin it!
I'm releasing my book!
unidentified
I don't give a shit!
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
And I don't think there's a problem with that.
You'll work out a schedule eventually.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that'll be good.
dan friesen
And I'm sure some people came in and enjoyed the time, so some walks get to hang out.
That might be a better thing to do for a live stream, if anyone in our audience is interested in it, than us live streaming episodes, quite frankly.
That might be better, because you can be distracted while you're playing a video game.
It's much more frustrating when I'm distracted trying to host a podcast.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
That is definitely fair.
dan friesen
Can't quite keep up with the chat.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, that'll be interesting.
I look forward to it.
I don't know if I've completely figured out how to set it up so we can all be on there together without the lag.
Screwing everything up, but I think we can do it again.
dan friesen
I can always just come over to your house, too.
jordan holmes
You can just come over to my house, that's true.
dan friesen
Yeah, we're in our COVID bubble.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fair.
That's fair.
I'll be a little bit cramped in my tiny little room.
dan friesen
That's fine.
So, Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to go over.
We're back to talking about Alex Jones after Monday's little salt break, as I've decided to call it.
jordan holmes
I don't think that's bad.
dan friesen
So we have to do a little bit of catch-up.
And so what we're doing today is we're going over January 14th to 17th, which is Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday of last week, all within the year 2021.
unidentified
Black Jack!
jordan holmes
Jack, baby!
I want to add a baby to it.
I like it.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I feel like it's forced.
jordan holmes
All right, we'll see.
dan friesen
We'll see.
So, what my plan is, is to go over this period of time, and then for Friday's episode, we will witness the end of Trump's presidency on Alex Jones' show.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So, that will be...
You know, I mean, just...
jordan holmes
Momentous times.
dan friesen
The sound of silence.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Hello, darkness.
dan friesen
But for two to three hours as we listen to one man lose his mind.
jordan holmes
That'll be fun.
dan friesen
So I got an interesting stretch here.
There's some really, really troubling stuff.
Some really stupid stuff.
Sure.
And...
Alex realizing that Steve Pachanek has been fucking with him for 20 years, finally.
jordan holmes
Thank God.
I am looking forward to the moment that I get to hear that happen.
dan friesen
He has a dark moment of clarity on Saturday.
jordan holmes
I love it.
Give it to me.
dan friesen
So we'll get down to business on all of this, but first, Jordan, we're going to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Rory loves Lolo.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, RLL.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Yeah, one of my aunts is Lois.
jordan holmes
Is Lois.
dan friesen
But she goes by Lolo.
unidentified
Oh, I like it.
Auntie Lolo.
jordan holmes
I like Lolo.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a good name.
Next, Harold Dropdead.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, HDD.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Milo Peterson, Intel Extraordinaire.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
M-P-I-E.
dan friesen
M-P-I-E.
Next, The Hills Have Thighs.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, THT.
Why is everybody doing an acronym?
dan friesen
They requested that I say it really ominously, so I did my best ominous reading there.
jordan holmes
You did great.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Morrissey's Finger.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Morrissey's Finger.
pete santilli
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Talon from Minneapolis.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Talon!
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
And then finally, like I say, thank you to a couple people who donated on Elevated Level and appreciate that very much.
So, Andy B. from Minnesota, thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
And Ghost Panda of Coal Creek, thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Crikey, mate, that's fantastic.
alex jones
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
All right, we gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimp so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Andy B. up in Minnesota.
Thank you so much, the ghost panda of Coal Creek.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much to the both of you.
dan friesen
Yeah!
jordan holmes
Is Coal Creek in Minnesota?
dan friesen
I don't know, but if it is, then we've got Minneapolis, Minnesota, and Coal Creek.
We've got a lot of Minnesotans.
jordan holmes
We've got a whole, yeah, yeah, yeah.
All the Canucks that are slightly lower.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm going to call them.
dan friesen
Sure.
The only reference I've got is, I guess, Prince and Ryan Sayers.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That's all I got.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Musical references.
jordan holmes
I like it.
dan friesen
I think I've been to Minneapolis.
jordan holmes
You think you have?
I have.
dan friesen
There are so many cities in the U.S. that I think I've been to, but I'm not positive.
jordan holmes
I got kicked out of a billionaire's house in Minneapolis.
dan friesen
Really?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I used to work for...
I used to...
Sell hearing aids and the like.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
And one of the owners of the biggest hearing aid cartel in the world is stationed out of Minneapolis.
dan friesen
Was it Prince?
jordan holmes
No.
It's a guy named...
dan friesen
Rogers Nelson?
jordan holmes
Something.
But the company's name is Starkey.
And we got invited there because my cousin has his whole thing.
And we got invited to his house as like a reward for people who sold some number of hearing aids.
And he and I got way too drunk and we were asked to leave.
dan friesen
Oh, wow.
jordan holmes
So it was nice.
It's an experience.
I peed on his floor.
I'm proud of myself.
Geez.
Yeah, it was good stuff.
dan friesen
I bet.
Were you proud of yourself the next morning?
jordan holmes
Yes.
Fuck that guy.
dan friesen
Oh, wow.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
You and I are different.
jordan holmes
Also, I mean, at the same time, my boss at the time was my cousin, so I had a little bit more of a- Little wiggle room.
I can pee on the floor of a billionaire's home.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, yeah.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, we're going to start here on the 14th.
jordan holmes
Let's do it.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a bad news to start things off.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
The left is on a rampage.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
I've been here since very early this morning.
I've been doing a lot of research.
And then we had the FBI contact us just about 30 minutes ago.
And then I found out why Roger Stone is in hiding.
It was worse than we thought.
Somebody came to his house and then waited for his wife, who's handicapped and hearing impaired, and beat her up.
So she's been in the hospital.
And they also sent a smile to Laura Loomer's house to try to kidnap her.
And so this is the Bolshevik takeover.
Everybody needs to understand that.
You need to know that.
And they are actively trying to say that we masterminded the attack of the Capitol with the U.S. military.
So that's the line they're going with now.
Unbelievable.
dan friesen
On the 14th, news that Roger Stone's wife was attacked by a leftist activist went huge all over the conservative media.
Blogs ran unconfirmed articles about how they were targeted for political violence and commentators opined about how the mainstream media was covering it up.
Then on the 15th, there was an article in the Floridian Press that sought to clear things up a little bit.
They reached out to Roger and reported, Here's the statement they published from Roger about the truth of the incident.
Quote, This incident was reported to both Fort Lauderdale Police and Broward County Animal Control.
Nidia sustained substantial injuries in the pit bull attack.
Last week there was an incident in front of our home when we returned from dinner.
A man on a bicycle recognized me and started screaming numerous political epithets, which are not fit for a family newspaper.
While there was a scuffle, Mrs. Stone sustained no new injuries in the event.
Reports that she was badly beaten or hospitalized are incorrect.
This event was also accurately reported to the Fort Lauderdale Police.
Seems like Alex is kind of embellishing the story a little bit.
jordan holmes
Poor dog.
dan friesen
He probably should have reached out to Roger for a comment, considering how close the two of them are.
jordan holmes
Not answering his phone calls.
dan friesen
I'm sure Roger would have been happy to clear things up, so Alex wouldn't have to report a completely false story about Roger's wife on air.
jordan holmes
Not interested.
dan friesen
She seems fucking disrespectful as hell.
jordan holmes
In answering Alex's phone calls.
dan friesen
So, I would say this is not good.
And as for the story about Laura Loomer, I'm gonna need to see some evidence before I even start caring about whatever's going on.
jordan holmes
Yeah, all I can think is that Roger himself is on a rampage and has been dressing up like a pitbull.
That's the only thing that makes sense to me.
He's attacking people left and right dressed up like a pitbull.
dan friesen
His day drinking has evolved.
So now we get to the new framing of the storming of the Capitol back on January 6th.
Alex has some historical parallels.
jordan holmes
I feel like we're on the fifth new framing of an event that doesn't need any new frames.
dan friesen
We're going to get a couple ones on this episode.
We're going to get a couple framings.
jordan holmes
This is frustrating.
dan friesen
And one new Patsy.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
alex jones
The headline on Infowars.com is confirmed.
January 6th Capitol attack was Reichstag.
2.0.
If you don't know about the Reichstag attack, we're going to be covering that when we come back.
Because right in that printer, snuggled in that warm printer, is the little printout where I'm going to read you about what happened in the Reichstag attack.
But that's what this is.
This is a Reichstag attack.
It happened right when Hitler got elected.
He was very unpopular.
They thought he'd stolen the election.
And he firebombed that bitch.
dan friesen
So, this isn't good.
I like the idea that something's getting printed out.
I'm excited to find out what that's gonna be.
jordan holmes
Wow, they gotta print it out.
It's got the little hooks on the edge.
They gotta perforate the thing and then tear it apart.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Alex has a couple of details wrong about the Reichstag fire here.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
That's surprising.
dan friesen
The first and probably most important element he's completely making up is that the fire happened after Hitler won an election that people thought was fraudulent.
That's nonsense.
Alex is saying this because he knows that his audience is gullible, and if he paints a one-to-one comparison of Hitler and Biden, it stands to scare them more and drive more profits to Infowars.
Yeah.
Yeah.
on February 27, 1933.
In January of that year, Hitler had been appointed Chancellor of Germany's government, which was still under the control of the country's president, Paul von Hindenburg.
The structure of the government was that the president was the elected leader of the country, who would then appoint a chancellor who would be responsible for introducing legislation to members of the Reichstag, who were also elected officials.
At any point, the president could dismiss his chancellor...
You know, he had control over that position.
jordan holmes
Or so he thought.
dan friesen
Well, according to the Smithsonian Magazine, quote, Hindenburg reluctantly appointed Hitler as chancellor on the advice of Franz von Papen, a disgruntled former chancellor who believed the conservative bourgeois parties should ally with the Nazis to keep the communists out of party.
jordan holmes
Man, I have heard something like that so frequently in the past.
dan friesen
Fear of communism leads to aligning with fascists.
unidentified
every time.
jordan holmes
It does seem like it happens every time.
dan friesen
The reality of the Reichstag fire is that it was an event almost certainly committed by the Nazis, which they blamed on communists.
This allowed Hitler to use the event against the communists and as a justification for why the government needed to assert dictatorship level powers to crush the threat they posed sure there's Sure.
attempting the same political maneuvering that the Nazis engaged in in 1933.
jordan holmes
Yes, correct.
dan friesen
There was a terrible event that drove home the sobering reality to a large portion of the country, and that terrible event can be incredibly useful if you can blame it on your enemies.
This is why Alex is now on air fudging details about the Reichstag fight.
jordan holmes
And if you did it, it is wise to blame it on your enemies.
Otherwise, people will think it's your fault.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's certainly true of the present situation.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you don't want people to think it's your fault.
dan friesen
No.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
So Alex really has a bad handle on history.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
I've heard him, I mean, like, you know, the fake quotes are one thing.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But, like, man, he's way out of line here.
alex jones
February 27, 1933.
unidentified
From the front lines of the information war, it's Alex Jones.
alex jones
That was the date.
February 27, 1933.
Adolf Alois Hitler had narrowly won the presidency of Germany.
But von Hindenburg was not stepping down as the chancellor.
The most powerful position in the Weimar Republic.
dan friesen
This is crazy not true.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Hitler had not won an election for the presidency of Germany.
He was chancellor beginning in 1933, at which point he began maneuvering to seize more and more power for himself and the Nazi party, who had had a great showing in the Reichstag elections in the 1932 election.
jordan holmes
People like Nazis.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Hindenburg died in 1934, at which point Hitler dissolved the office of the presidency and combined its powers with that Paul von Hindenburg wasn't chancellor,
and there was not a contested election for president in the way that Alex is describing.
This is just an idiot making stuff up because he knows his audience doesn't know any better and won't bother to look into it.
jordan holmes
Does not care either way!
dan friesen
Yeah.
This is one of the things I'd really like to drive home to anyone who may have some inclination to take Alex Jones seriously or think he knows what he's talking about.
If he has this little grasp of basic facts, like who was in what office when the Reichstag happened...
And he's so willing to confidently assert really fundamental inaccuracies.
Why would you ever give him the benefit of the doubt with more complicated stuff?
unidentified
Ever.
dan friesen
If he can't be bothered to understand really simple arithmetic, you shouldn't listen to him about geometry or algebra or trigonometry.
He doesn't know how to add.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, absolutely not.
He doesn't have a basic grasp of the fundamentals of existence.
dan friesen
Yeah, he doesn't know grammar.
Don't let him tell you how to edit your paper or whatever.
I don't know what the metaphor is.
Right.
jordan holmes
I feel like one of the fundamental things that he doesn't get is that some things are, and some things are not.
Everything seems to be fungible there, but some things have to be, and some things have to not be.
They cannot just be whatever you want them to be.
dan friesen
Right, and if he wants me to take it all seriously, the idea that he knows this secret information that Hitler was set up, or all this nonsense that he throws around all the time, all this revisionist World War II history, and he doesn't know who was in what office?
That's embarrassing, man.
You can't do this.
jordan holmes
You know what is blowing my mind?
And it's just gonna be so painful.
It's gonna be so painful, Dan.
If you recall, oh, those early days in 2017, whenever you would call Trump a Nazi, and people would go, whoa, whoa, whoa, you can't just throw that word around.
That's a terrible thing to do.
It needs to be used correctly.
And now we are about to begin a long stretch of literally everything Biden does making him a Nazi.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
That will be screamed at us from all corners of the world, including the ones who screamed at us to not call Trump a Nazi.
dan friesen
I would say almost exclusively from those corners.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But if they come from Alex, one of the good things you can always fall back on is he knows literally nothing about World War II history.
alex jones
That's fair.
But days after the election that Hitler won by a very slight margin, firebombs hit the Capitol and was blamed on his enemies, the communists.
dan friesen
At least he's not pretending it wasn't the communists who got blamed.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's almost like he's trying real hard to thread the line where he's like...
The Nazis were the good guys here.
dan friesen
Also, what's he saying?
The election days...
What is he saying?
Like, the election prior to the Reichstag fire was in April 1932, about a year prior to the fire.
jordan holmes
360...
330 days prior after the...
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
There was an election for Reichstag members scheduled for six days after the fire, but that's the opposite of what Alex is describing.
Alex either knows nothing about World War II history and is pretending he does in order to scare his audience, or he does know what the reality is and he's willy-flee lying to them.
In order to make it more closely match this scenario, also to scare them.
jordan holmes
You betcha.
dan friesen
You really should stop.
This is pretty bad.
unidentified
It's bad.
dan friesen
It's real bad.
Congratulations, though, Alex.
You have a real depth of...
Remember when you said you read a hundred books on World War II?
Are there...
jordan holmes
Are there any Nazis in the United States willing to sue on behalf of the Nazi party for Alex's bad portrayal of them?
dan friesen
I mean, it's just...
jordan holmes
Slander, sir.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Slander.
dan friesen
There's things that are interpretation and there are things that are like what was...
who was where?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And what power alignment did...
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Some things are and some things are not.
You can't just say that that's how...
dan friesen
It's staggering to me.
It's embarrassing for Alex, and he never has to pay any consequences, even in terms of embarrassment, for not knowing any of this shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and the people who believe him are so sad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Alex mentioned earlier that the FBI called him.
We might learn a little bit more about that.
alex jones
Man, wow, I've hit Twilight Zone, Twilight Zone.
Like, in the world of Twilight Zone, it...
For something to be even weirder, like imagine what people in Twilight Zone, when they watch the Twilight Zone, it must be even weirder.
We're like in the Twilight Zone of the Twilight Zone.
That's just regular, John.
jordan holmes
It's a double negative.
You don't know math, man.
alex jones
Your people in the military have quite distinguished records that work there, and you notice this and that.
Yeah, we're willing to just know about what you know about what happened in there.
Wow!
Wow, ladies and gentlemen.
dan friesen
I'm guessing that, like, first of all, you're right, the Twilight Zone and the Twilight Zone would be just normal life.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it'd just be normal.
dan friesen
I would assume.
They'd cancel each other out.
jordan holmes
It's a regular zone.
dan friesen
Yeah, and no one ends up getting a harsh lesson about anything.
That would be the version of the show they watch in the Twilight Zone.
jordan holmes
No, in the regular...
dan friesen
There's no poetic consequences for things.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly!
It's just random like everything else.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Anyway, Alex keeps talking about the FBI contacting him, and I think I might know why that is.
You remember that he said he had an employee who was there and got footage of the woman getting shot inside the Capitol?
jordan holmes
Maybe.
dan friesen
Well, that means he had an employee who was illegally entering the Capitol.
jordan holmes
That sounds like something the FBI would look into.
dan friesen
Alex's employee, Sam, released his raw footage of entering the Capitol building.
I'm just going to play you the minutes where he actually walked through the doors of the building, thereby committing a crime, and see if you can see any reason why law enforcement might be interested in talking to Alex.
jordan holmes
Okay, I think that's a good idea.
dan friesen
Mic down for this.
jordan holmes
All right.
unidentified
We have had enough.
We're not gonna take your fucking vaccines.
We're not gonna take all your bullshit.
The people.
dan friesen
To be clear, that voice is the cameraman.
unidentified
Look at this.
I don't think it costs them what to do.
This is the first time they see a peaceful protest succeed.
They're dumbfounded.
They're dumbfounded.
Here they are.
Here they are.
Alright.
Folks, I don't know how I made it out of there without getting hurt.
But your boy ain't hurt.
But I gotta be honest.
This is not a peaceful protest.
This is not a peaceful protest.
So...
I just want to be accurate about that.
But for whatever that means, you heard it.
As I was going along, I tried to ask a few people what's going through their mind or what they're feeling.
I don't know what to say.
But they've had enough.
You heard that last gentleman?
He feels like this is the people's house.
And so the people want to take it back.
See?
So here we go.
We got SWAT gear over there.
Keep the line moving.
Keep the line moving.
All right.
It's your boy Sam with Infowars.com.
Support the war.
Infowarsstore.com.
We got sales to go.
We got sales for days.
Please.
It's because of your support that we're able to get into things like this and show you the real news that the media won't.
That they will spin tomorrow.
They're going to spin it.
But guess what?
Guess what?
We are in the capital, baby!
Yeah!
dan friesen
He's doing a plug as he enters the Capitol.
jordan holmes
Dan, I just don't.
These people need to be babysat.
I don't even know if they need to be punished or if they need to be babysat because they clearly have no ability to process reality.
dan friesen
Like none.
It's amazing.
jordan holmes
Just none!
You walked into the Capitol building doing an ad for the thing that you're not supposed to be doing!
dan friesen
I'm going to add that to my quickly growing collection of things that really don't look good in hindsight.
jordan holmes
This is not a peaceful protest.
This is not a peaceful protest.
dan friesen
Infowars.com.
jordan holmes
Infowars.com.
unidentified
We're in the capital, baby!
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
You can't really be doing this.
dan friesen
I've got to assume that there's a lot of people who have been arrested.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
For breaching the Capitol.
Even people who are just recording, people who didn't break anything.
It's still illegal entry.
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
I don't see why Sam wouldn't be arrested.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, you can't arrest him.
He works for Infowars, the tip of the spear.
The FBI is afraid of pissing off Alex.
dan friesen
I would also assume that should Sam be arrested, there might be some interesting questions about, oh, you work at Infowars.
Why did you record going in?
Did Alex send you there on an assignment?
jordan holmes
Well, I can only say it's with your support that InfoWars continues storming the Capitol.
dan friesen
Certainly it does imply that little clip of video tends to indicate that he was there in an official capacity.
jordan holmes
It would suggest that, yes.
dan friesen
As part of his duties while promoting InfoWarsStore.com, he committed a crime.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yes.
dan friesen
That might be something that people would want to talk to Alex about.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
We're through the looking glass here, Dan.
We're in the twilight zone of the twilight zone.
dan friesen
Sure.
Everything's normal.
So...
Anyway, Roger's wife's going through some things.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
This is the real world.
You cannot make this up.
And Roger Stone...
A man ran over his wife...
jordan holmes
Jesus!
alex jones
And she got back up and he knocked her over again.
And then he knocked her over again.
And so Roger now is going into hiding.
This isn't a joke.
His wife is in the hospital to have emergency surgery because a man beat his wife up.
Just randomly in their little condo area.
Nobody's around.
jordan holmes
Randomly.
alex jones
She's walking the dog.
A dude pulls up on a bike and starts knocking him over.
She gets up.
He knocks her over repeatedly.
That's the left for you, folks.
dan friesen
If I were Roger, I'd be pissed about this.
I'd be really not happy about Alex's behavior.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Don't fucking embellish stories about my wife in order to make people scared of the left.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
You dick.
I know that's the job.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Come on.
I'm not saying that I hope someone...
Screamed, cut his dick off at Roger Stone, but I'm not not saying it, Ted.
dan friesen
So, if I were Roger, I'd be mad about that, but I'd also not be thrilled about this.
alex jones
That's where we are right now, is beating up 75-year-old or whatever she is.
She's older than Roger.
Look how old his wife is.
Still looks great for 70-something years old.
Oh, my God.
His daughter's not bad looking either.
I mean, that's like God made beautiful women.
I'm not hitting on them.
I'm married.
I'm saying nice ladies.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
Do we gotta do that?
We don't have...
to do these things, Alex.
We don't have to say his daughter's hot.
We don't!
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it's an interesting way he was trying to recover from saying that Roger's wife was hot.
Like, oh, I'll save this by saying his daughter's hot, too.
jordan holmes
Let me objectify his child instead.
That'll make it better.
Ah, what a good save, everybody.
Why isn't everybody reaching up for high fives?
I got high fives going on.
Where's everybody else's high fives?
dan friesen
So we get back now to the Reichstag fire, and I was so glad that this paid off, because I was worried that that stuff that he was printing It was going to be the opposite of Chekhov's printer paper.
But we do find out what he had an intern print out for him.
alex jones
This is Reichstag 2.0.
Reichstag fire.
The Reichstag fire German fire was an arson attack on the Reichstag government building, the capital, home of the German parliament in Berlin on Monday, the 27th, February 1933.
Precisely four weeks after Adolf Hitler was sworn in as Chancellor of Germany.
Hitler's government stated that, and it goes on, Marinus Vanderloop and all the rest of it.
So...
dan friesen
This is the Wikipedia article about the Reichstag fire.
jordan holmes
Great, great.
dan friesen
If you ever want to tell yourself that Alex does any work, please call this image into your mind.
unidentified
Great.
dan friesen
He doesn't do shit.
He has his interns print Wikipedia pages for him to fumble his way through blindly reading.
When he said German a fire, that's because on the Wikipedia entry they include the German word for the fire, which confused Alex while he was cold reading.
unidentified
There we go.
dan friesen
This is pathetic.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
Anyway, more revisionist history about Hitler coming up.
jordan holmes
You know, it's one of those things where by having papers, you assume a legitimacy that somebody ostensibly from the internet doesn't have.
You know, like something about having physical papers.
We at least did the work.
And then you find out they just printed out the internet and that's ten times less interesting.
dan friesen
And it's Wikipedia.
jordan holmes
And it's Wikipedia.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, like, the newsmen of Days of Yore might have desk papers that they're looking at.
Or, like, you might, you know, I don't know, maybe I've only seen this in sitcoms, but, like, somebody comes running in with a piece of paper.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, breaking news.
unidentified
Yeah, breaking news.
jordan holmes
Yeah, typed up.
There's transcriptions because you couldn't even do shit like that.
You just had to read it out loud like a man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think Alex is trying to emulate that to give himself some kind of, like, the appearance of that, and it's just Wikipedia articles.
jordan holmes
Not good.
dan friesen
Anyway, here's more bullshit.
alex jones
Hitler first only got elected president.
It wasn't enough.
And then people were fighting over him trying to become the Fuhrer and have the former head of the Weimar Republic step down.
And so they had to stage this event.
That came out in the Nuremberg trial.
dan friesen
Hitler was not elected president prior to the Reichstag fire.
He'd been appointed chancellor by Hindenburg.
The title Fuhrer didn't really even exist at the time.
I guess he was the Fuhrer of the Nazi party, but it wouldn't come into being like a state role until after Hindenburg's death, when Hitler combined the offices of president and chancellor into a new title, Fuhrer and Reich Chancellor, which eventually got shortened to Fuhrer.
jordan holmes
And then they got shortened to Senate Majority Leader.
dan friesen
Yep.
I hate to sound like a broken record here, but Alex is just making shit up about Nazi history for his own benefit here and then pretending that the Nuremberg trials back him up.
The thing that I think is most transparent as an aspect is that Alex knows damn well in that moment.
Like, he's making this up.
He knows he's making this up.
That's why his citation is something like the Nuremberg trials, which is absolutely useless as a reference.
alex jones
So general.
dan friesen
What part of the trial?
jordan holmes
How many months long?
Years long?
dan friesen
What exactly came out in those trials, even?
He's not even saying.
jordan holmes
It's in the white papers, but the trial papers.
dan friesen
When you try to pull the thread there to determine how reliable a source he's being, you have nowhere solid to go other than thousands of pages of testimony.
And you're not even...
really sure what you're looking for to prove Alex right or wrong.
That's a big part of Alex's game.
One of his favorite things to do is make absurd, completely false claims and then insist that some impossibly long text actually proves him right.
He's never read those texts, but it doesn't matter because he knows that his audience hasn't and won't either.
That's why he'll constantly just point at thousand plus page books like Tragedy and Hope or Ecoscience and just insist that those things actually prove him right.
That's all in there.
Yeah.
unidentified
It's a way of trying to railroad criticism and make it impossible for anyone to actually engage with the things that are being said unless they've read these really long books that Alex is pretending to have Ray.
dan friesen
I would dig through the Nuremberg documents to disprove what Alex is saying, but he gives up his right to be taken seriously when he completely fabricates history like this.
But I couldn't help it, so I did dig around a little bit.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
This is from page 110 of volume 2 of the trial of major war criminals.
This is spoken by Justice Robert Jackson, the chief U.S. prosecutor at the Nuremberg trials.
Quote, The burning of this symbol of free parliamentary government was so providential for the Nazis that it was believed they staged the fire themselves.
Certainly when we contemplate their known crimes, we cannot believe they would shrink from mere arson.
It's not necessary, however, to resolve the controversy as to who set the fire.
So I guess if Alex is saying that it came out in the Nuremberg trials that the Nazis themselves set the fire, the chief U.S. prosecutor doesn't seem to be even making that indictment in the Nuremberg trials.
And in fact, though it's generally accepted consensus that the Nazis did probably start the fire, definitive proof is hard to come by even today.
Even the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum says, quote, the origins of the fire are still unclear.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
I mean, I think the prosecutor really makes a good point, which is just like, eh!
Just add it.
Just, Amy, take it off, add it.
It doesn't matter.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
It's better just to be like, it doesn't even matter.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
What they did was horrible enough.
A fire is not, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, anytime somebody is engaging in World War II revisionism where they're like changing a little bit of the story away from Nazi genocide is to me like that sign that you're eventually going to try and get me to think that Even if there was a problem with Hitler, it wasn't the genocide or the fascism part.
I see you coming, sir.
dan friesen
Yeah, Alex is really fucking weird on this.
Like, this really struck me as, like, this is unnecessary.
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
It really is exposing of a either complete and total ignorance of history on Alex's part, or a willingness to lie to his audience.
In a way to make history look like what he wants the present to look like to them in order to convince them of a lie about the present.
jordan holmes
No, totally.
dan friesen
Which is like, either of those are pretty bad looks.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, what's that old saying?
He who lies about the past controls the present and then becomes Senate Majority Leader.
dan friesen
So, we get a guest at this point on the 14th.
He's a guy who hides in bushes.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
He's the Batman.
dan friesen
It's John Rappaport.
John Rappaport hasn't been a guest on the show much in the recent history, so people who have just discovered our show recently probably won't know of our obsession with John Rappaport.
jordan holmes
Our long obsession with John Rappaport.
dan friesen
He followed us on Twitter for a while.
jordan holmes
Several hundred episodes, and then, boom, much like the bat!
Gone into the night!
dan friesen
He is a guy who is a quote-unquote investigative journalist, is an HIV denialist.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Is a real dick.
I think he's hypnotizing Alex.
jordan holmes
Possible.
dan friesen
Alex has an intense emotional reliance on him.
Oftentimes, whenever John hosts the fourth hour, Alex will do five minutes with him where he's just like, John, I need you, John.
jordan holmes
Just tell me I'm doing good.
dan friesen
John, we love you so much, John Rappaport.
jordan holmes
Tell me I'm a good man, John.
John, I just need to hear that I'm a good man.
dan friesen
So his interview is not really all that great.
It's kind of just about how Antifa did that shit.
jordan holmes
Why do I feel like they went through the Rolodex of InfoWars guests and were like, I guess Rappaport's the only one who hasn't been documented as saying, we did it.
We took over the Capitol in a positive way.
dan friesen
There are a fair amount of like, wow, they're back.
Like, Mike Adams was back.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Just the last couple episodes, Rappaport's here showing up.
Later, we're going to get Steve Quayle is fucking back.
jordan holmes
Who here was against the coup?
Who?
Anybody raise their hands?
Anybody?
Oh, boy.
Oh, not a lot of faces.
Okay, all right.
dan friesen
So, here's a little taste from their talk.
unidentified
Who is this guy standing next to him?
Oh, well, he was arrested over here.
jordan holmes
You know.
unidentified
All of this comes tumbling out.
alex jones
Arrested and let go.
They've got this Antifa leader that you mentioned saying, burn the Capitol down on video.
He was released.
unidentified
Yeah.
You know, it's like the Keystone Cops.
dan friesen
So Alex is referencing John Sullivan, who's not an Antifa leader by any stretch of the word.
Initially, Alex had been saying that this dude had been arrested and let go, and he was making up both things.
Since then, Sullivan had been arrested, but he wasn't really let go.
He was released from jail without bail, but whenever Alex brings that up, he fails to mention that conditions of his release included surrendering his passport, having his computer activities monitored, being not allowed to go on social media, and being under house arrest.
He's definitely still in huge trouble, but the phrasing that he was released from jail is being misrepresented by people like Alex.
They hate it!
And have for a while.
jordan holmes
Long good time.
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's an article in The Intercept that cites a number of activists from the West Coast who have raised concerns about him long before he went to D.C. Yeah.
But anyway, weirdly, you know where I actually first saw John Sullivan?
unidentified
Where?
dan friesen
You know where I saw him for the first time?
jordan holmes
The Whole Foods?
dan friesen
It was in the footage from inside the Capitol that was shot by the Infowars employee named Sam.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
Here's Sam talking to John Sullivan just after that woman got shot, trying to get the footage that John...
Sullivan headshot of the incident.
unidentified
I have the video of the guy with the gun, and there's shit.
Okay, I want to get with you.
I want to get you here for it right now.
You got that shot?
jordan holmes
I have it.
unidentified
Oh, I was right down the door.
Okay.
I need that footage, man.
It's going to go out in the world.
This has changed so much.
I cannot get you that shit.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So there's a couple of interesting things here.
The first is obviously how ghoulish it is that these two are so interested in talking about how good their footage is of a woman being shot so soon after and so close to where the shooting happened.
There's a real grim voyeurism on display here that I think reflects poorly on them both.
Secondly, it's interesting to me that John seems unaware of Infowars.
If he were really an antifa provocateur who was there to set up the Patriots and make them look bad, it seems strange that he would sound completely unfamiliar with the name Infowars who are supposed to be the patsies and fall guys of this whole thing.
Yeah.
unidentified
Conversely, if he really were a left-wing activist, it seems unlikely that he would be unaware of Infowars in that circumstance too, given that they're a media organization that imposes a very real and relevant threat to left-wing activist communities.
dan friesen
I honestly don't know what to make of their exchange, and I can't possibly imagine how difficult it would be to process.
I do think it's pretty funny to look at the dynamics here.
On the 6th, when Alex was on his own show, he was touting this footage that he'd gotten from inside the Capitol of the shooting.
That footage was shot by Sam, the Inforz employee, and John Sullivan was the other footage that Alex had, who has now turned out to be an Antifa agent provocateur.
Sure.
I honestly wonder if Alex even realizes that the person that Sam got footage from to send to Alex was John Sullivan.
jordan holmes
Plausible deniability.
dan friesen
I bet Alex doesn't even realize.
jordan holmes
Doesn't care.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's bad for him to know that.
dan friesen
Yep.
So now we get another guest on.
It's an online right-wing talk show host.
I'm not sure if I've ever heard him be on Alex's show before.
He might have been.
I'm not sure.
Pete Santilli.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The Santilli Lace.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I couldn't help it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't like this guy, but I also am not interested.
pete santilli
On January 20th, our commander-in-chief hasn't called us to a peaceful protest to Washington, D.C. He just said, wherever you protest, protest peacefully.
I believe that they're setting the stage.
The FBI said that they forewarned the Capitol Police that there were going to be some agitators coming in.
How do they know that?
Because those agitators work for the FBI.
They had let the Capitol Police's guard down.
They allowed this thing to take place.
They had their operatives breaking the window.
And then, obviously, the emotion involved in just walking in.
alex jones
Well, three years ago, from 2018, but it was from 2015, the headline info was, Yeah, those documents still aren't real.
dan friesen
There's still definitely just something that Harrison Smith found when he was cruising around 4chan.
jordan holmes
No contracts with the Soros son, Dan!
dan friesen
So Pete Santilli is a guy who's like a radio show host, but he's only relevant at all because he was arrested at the Malheur Wildlife Refuge occupation.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
The charges ultimately were dropped against him, most likely because he was both occupying the refuge and pretending to be a journalist.
So they didn't even want to fuck around and try and figure out how that First Amendment needle gets threaded.
jordan holmes
Much like who set the Reichstag.
They're like, Jesus Christ, that's just too much.
dan friesen
It's too much.
jordan holmes
It's too much.
dan friesen
Anyway, he's a dum-dum, and he's on just to try and help Alex convince people that feds set people up, and that, you know, like, coming weekend, it's all gonna be a mess.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's gonna be agent provocateur events, mass shootings, bombings, and now that we're here recording this on Tuesday...
jordan holmes
I think it's fascinating to me, just because in some ways...
This is kind of the only way that these people would be able to try and keep their people from committing mass acts of violence.
Because they can't come out and say, we were lying to you.
Because then the people will be like, no you weren't.
Or, you're lying to us now.
Or, it doesn't matter, we still want to overthrow the Capitol.
But if you say that if you go, you're going to be...
Provocatured and then blamed, that's more likely to cut through the...
It's like when you're talking to a child in pretend land, you have to talk to the pretend land child, not the regular one.
dan friesen
Yeah, because if you just say something along the lines of complete denunciation of violence and all this, you stand to lose a certain amount of your audience who will think that you've sold out or something because that is how...
Information is filtered for a lot of these communities.
Yeah, you have to be like, okay, yeah, yeah, you want to do this, and you're right to want to do it.
unidentified
Yeah, totally.
dan friesen
But if you do it, it's a trap, and you'll be a symbol that'll bring all your brethren down.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
That is probably the only way.
You're right.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's weird.
You have to play the game.
dan friesen
It doesn't really work for everyone.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we'll see.
dan friesen
Anyway, this was pretty fun.
Pete Santilli has one big message, and it's like, yeah, all right, I believe.
pete santilli
What I want everybody to understand right now is that your most trusted people that you have around you are going to be the ones that you will be shocked that they're actually working for this entity.
There's trillions of dollars at stake.
Your security person may be paid $100,000.
To set you up to gather enough information in order for you to make a statement on recording and essentially be used in an indictment.
dan friesen
So Pete's message is, nobody in the right wing can be trusted.
jordan holmes
Listen, everyone will absolutely abandon you the moment that it is expedient for them to do so.
dan friesen
Everyone in this right-wing community has a fucking price tag and you can't afford them.
jordan holmes
Did you guys ever hear about Stalin's closest Politburo friends and all that stuff?
Did you ever notice how they backstabbed each other all the goddamn time?
Well, guess what?
That's what fascism is.
dan friesen
Well, I know that Stalin burned down the Reichstag.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Why not?
jordan holmes
Why not?
We don't have time to figure it out, Dan.
dan friesen
So Pete makes a bit of an accusation here that I found distasteful.
pete santilli
I believe, and we're getting information now, that there were maps that were put out.
A guy named John Sullivan, who is a known BLM Antifa activist, just so happened to be present with her.
How she was able to determine going through the labyrinth of the hallways in the halls of Congress.
How she was able to get to that one particular spot where Secret Service would be, I'm sure was provoked by John Sullivan.
She's very emotionally involved.
They break the window.
She goes up there.
She gets shot.
dan friesen
I gotta say, it feels kind of like defamation to just randomly imply that just because Sullivan was near Ashley when she got shot that somehow he led her there.
If the standard for making that accusation is that low, then it could easily be said that Alex's cameraman, Sam, must have led her to where she got shot since he was right there, too.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
Sam's Antifa!
dan friesen
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
Goddammit, Sam!
dan friesen
Oh, and Troyer's Black Lives Matter flag-burning friend, Taylor Hanson, was right there, too, so he must have been the one who led her there.
jordan holmes
Antifa!
dan friesen
This is a very serious accusation that Pete is making based on nothing, and the only reason he's doing it is so that he doesn't have to feel bad about being an active participant in the media ecosystem that misinforms and radicalizes people like Ashley.
Yeah, at no point in time can that man just say, wait.
jordan holmes
I think it was me and my ilk that led her there.
Maybe there are real world consequences for bullshit.
dan friesen
Oh no, if I have that reflection, I have to change my behavior or recognize that I'm a villain while I profit off it.
jordan holmes
Oh no!
dan friesen
Anyway, good luck, Pete.
So, Alex keeps lying about Roger's wife, and we don't need to hear more of it, because it's basically just the same thing over and over again.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, sure.
dan friesen
Then he has another guest on.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I think that this guest has listened to our show.
jordan holmes
Okay!
dan friesen
It's Ezra Levant from Rebel Media.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And I really think...
Tell me if you know why I think that.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
What happened at the Capitol?
What's your view?
What's coming next?
Ezra Levant of Rebel Media.
ezra levant
Well, look, we all know the phrase fake news, and you can battle fake news on a daily basis.
But what happens when the news cements, when that cement hardens, and it becomes history?
You can't even un-argue or dislodge it.
dan friesen
I'm not saying that I came up with that metaphor, but it's something that I've used in this very specific context many times, and he uses it multiple times in this interview.
And I was just sitting here like, you motherfucker.
jordan holmes
You can't weaponize my own shit against me?
Dickweed.
dan friesen
So anyway, that guy sucks.
Not very interesting as an interview.
We're going to jump to the 15th.
So the 15th is Friday.
jordan holmes
I hope he does listen to our show so he can find out how little we give a fuck about it.
dan friesen
Yeah, don't care.
jordan holmes
Piece of shit.
dan friesen
Go cry to Tommy Robinson about cement.
jordan holmes
No shit.
Fuck you.
dan friesen
Anyway, so we had some vaccine possibly related deaths in Norway, and Alex is covering that story.
alex jones
I spent an hour just on this little darling right here from Infowars.com, which has got links to...
Mainstream, Reuters, you name it, foreign news, Norway TV.
23 dead in Norway after taking COVID vaccine.
And they said, that's okay, it's going to kill some people.
See, they're now just normalizing the death.
That's just one article here.
dan friesen
So this is an instance where the headline can look pretty scary, but the actual story might not actually be as much of a cause for alarm as it seems.
The first thing to be clear about is that these deaths that have happened in Norway are obviously being studied.
And at the time of this episode, there's not been any causal link that's been made between the vaccine and these deaths, which is important to nail down.
If Alex had actually read some of the underlying information that this InfoWars article is based on, like there's a CNN article, you would have read this explanation from Stephen Evans, professor of pharmacoepidemiology at the London School of Hygiene in Toronto.
Evans told the UK's Science Media Centre that when people who are at high risk of death get vaccinated there will be a certain number of coincidental deaths that occur shortly after vaccination.
Regulatory bodies across the world are closely monitoring these fatalities, Evans said, and are able to calculate the expected number of deaths within various time periods.
We do not yet know, but it would seem that the observed numbers of deaths is not notably above the numbers expected, he said, adding that there was no need for anxiety, but complacency is equally mistaken.
jordan holmes
If we're vaccinating people who are going to die soon, some of them are going to die soon after we vaccinate them.
dan friesen
That happens.
People who are in high-risk categories may have a higher expectation of coincidental death.
That is a factor that needs to be taken into account.
Also, the possibility is brought up in these articles of...
Minor side effects possibly being much more serious issues for people with more complications.
Anyway, I think that if you look at something like how this guy, Stephen Evans, is explaining the situation, I think that sounds very responsible because he has both sides sort of reflected there.
There's reasons why this number would be there.
People are looking at it and will understand this better.
This is not a reason to be serious.
Super worried, but it's also not a reason to just be like, eh, whatever.
I think that's fair.
jordan holmes
I remember when I was young, when I was little, they had kids' Bibles that were illustrated, and they simplified a lot of the stories, and they left out all the rapes.
And I think that's what we need for science news journalists.
We need to give them the kiddie version of real science, and they can disseminate that so people don't get too scared.
Because we can't be having people with headlines like, vaccine involved in two deaths.
23. Yeah.
Sorry, I apologize.
dan friesen
Yeah, we just can't have that.
That headline is true.
Well, no, it's not.
23 people died after getting the vaccine.
It's unclear if it's related or connected.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we just can't have that.
dan friesen
How many of the cases it is is unclear.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
But, yeah, the headline itself can be weaponized so easily by people.
With the wrong information, it would be good.
Messaging is critical at this point with medical information, I think.
jordan holmes
I would change that headline to tens of millions vaccinated without dying.
Unsurprisingly statistically relevant, but unsurprising so far at this point in time.
Let's go back to the old tracks from the 60s.
I want Thomas Paine to start writing our fucking headlines.
That's what we gotta do.
dan friesen
Okay.
We'll take that under advisement.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
I'll ask.
dan friesen
Alex has another headline.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Study.
COVID lockdown harms are ten times greater than benefits and causes more people to die from suicide, drug addiction, drug overdose, and more.
But that's okay.
dan friesen
I can tell from the phrasing of the headline that Alex is reading there that it's a post in an outlet called the Dhaka Tribune.
I didn't know that Alex kept up with the Bangladeshi media.
Sure.
Sure.
This was an article published on January 11th about a paper put out by a Canadian doctor of pediatrics named Ari Joff.
The paper is called COVID-19, Rethinking the Lockdown Groupthink, and it's not been published by anyone, nor is it peer-reviewed.
jordan holmes
Odd.
dan friesen
Also, it was written last October.
Alex absolutely didn't read this paper.
One of his interns just sent in the headline from an outlet in Bangladesh covering a Canadian paper that no one cared about three months ago.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
This is trash.
unidentified
Great.
jordan holmes
This is bad work.
Great.
dan friesen
Just great.
Alex gets to a point where he kind of thinks, maybe we've got to move on.
Maybe we've got to move on from Trump.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I think he's starting to have those feelings of, like, we must move forward.
alex jones
I could snap my fingers and come out against Trump and come out against the Second Amendment.
And I can't get into details because it's private things that are done.
That's just how the law works.
As long as something is illegal, I will go have private meetings with the globalists and their minions.
But I mean, I can snap my fingers and betray the Second Amendment, betray America, betray Trump.
They make it so easy.
Just come out against the Second Amendment just a little bit.
Come out for red flag laws, or come out for just against Trump a little, or just leave radical Islam alone, or just stop harping on this pedophilia thing all day.
And all your problems will stop, Jones.
Yeah, Jones, you can come back into the fold right now.
Right now, Jones, you can come back in.
Really, I can?
Great.
No, I don't want to come back in your fold.
I've never been in your fold.
I don't want to be in your fold.
But that's where this is.
People say, well, Jones, you just said red flag laws is one of their stipulations.
Trump said he was for that.
Trump said that so they would say we want total gun confiscation and so he would shut it all down.
I agree it was a mistake.
I said it was.
Whenever I talk about something Trump did, why he thought he did the right thing, I'm so you can get my take on why he did it.
It doesn't mean I agree with it.
He said, hey, you shouldn't have to take the vaccine.
But, oh, here it is, let's turn the economy back on, because he gets, that's the main mission, is shut the economy back off.
Doesn't mean I agree with him trying to defeat them in that capacity, and it failed.
And he failed to do the right thing when it came to the censorship.
And now he knows that, and now the whole world knows that.
It doesn't matter now.
We move on.
Now it's Joe Biden, who is a fraud who we will never accept.
Who's going to come after us hardcore.
We have to get on the offense against him because he runs a globalist crime family against our nation and is fully compromised.
So, Trump will be gone in five days.
Trust the plan, right?
unidentified
Unbelievable.
dan friesen
This dude's so mad about QAnon.
jordan holmes
Man, that's just bad writing.
That's just bad fanfic is what we just heard right there.
dan friesen
There's something interesting and paradoxical about Alex ranting about how the globalists want him to turn on Trump, but he won't do it, only for him to then end his rant by saying we have to move on to fight Joe Biden.
jordan holmes
Well, sure.
dan friesen
I guess it's not turning on Trump, but leaving that season of his show behind, maybe?
jordan holmes
Yeah, just toss it.
dan friesen
If you're Alex, you don't get to do this.
You don't get to whip your audience into an apocalyptic fervor about how Trump was appointed to be ruler by God, and this election is a spiritual battle between Trump's godliness and the literal devil.
Then when it's time to move on, you just say we move on.
jordan holmes
Personally, I'm stoked the devil won.
He's a good dude.
We've talked a little bit.
He's everywhere.
dan friesen
Alex promised the end of days and the fucking devil if Biden got in.
And guess what?
It's probably just going to be a slightly disappointing government that Alex is just going to make a bunch of money yelling about.
It's fucking bullshit.
Also, I want to point out this thing that Alex has been doing a lot lately that I find really offensive.
He keeps talking about how he could join the globalists so easy.
They want him on their side and at any minute he could be one of the elites.
This is meant to be heard by the audience like an abusive spouse yelling about how they could do so much better.
The message is really clear that Alex could join the globalists whenever he wants because he's special.
But no one listening has the same offer extended to them because they are not special.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And you should be glad that I'm not joining these globalists.
jordan holmes
You are fucking lucky I choose to shine my light on you, assholes.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's dark.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's really narcissistic and gross.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I don't enjoy it.
jordan holmes
I would prefer he didn't do that or exist.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, like, if he didn't exist, I know there's at least two people in the world who would miss him.
I got the wrong clip here.
jordan holmes
Thinking real hard.
dan friesen
I got the wrong clip here.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Later, Alex says that two famous people told him something.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This is a clip where two people tell him about one single famous person.
jordan holmes
Okay, all right.
We got to talk famous people.
dan friesen
Rewind.
jordan holmes
Didn't hear that part.
dan friesen
There's one person.
jordan holmes
2021!
dan friesen
Blackjack.
jordan holmes
Yay!
dan friesen
There's one person.
If Alex didn't exist, one person who's very famous who would be very sad.
jordan holmes
Christopher Watson?
alex jones
Paul Watson asked me, like, what's going on with Jack Dorsey?
He says he's for free speech, and he hates the fact that Trump was censored.
But then now there's this video where he's admitting it all, that he is censoring his employees.
He's like a man with a gun to his head.
And I think that's basically it.
He's blackmailed for whatever reason it is.
And so I told Paul, why not just tell you this now?
It's not like a bragging thing.
I don't care.
It's actually weird.
I think it's strange.
I've been told by two famous prominent people that Jack Dorsey...
Says, Alex Jones is always right, and that I'm like his guru.
And then there's this big famous Hollywood producer.
I'm not going to go any further.
This big music producer that is like their guru, and then he's like, this is me all the time.
I'm being told this by two separate really famous people.
And this is like a while back, and I'm like, okay, all right.
I mean, you can't make up the weirdness level.
jordan holmes
This is right before Phil Spector died, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, I think so.
unidentified
This famous music producer fucking loves me.
jordan holmes
He loves me.
He's a famous music producer.
dan friesen
He's saying this was a while back, so it could have been Manson.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
That's fair.
dan friesen
Yeah, man, I don't know.
Let's imagine this is true.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
You got something better to do with your time on the show?
jordan holmes
No.
No, he doesn't.
unidentified
Why are you talking about Jack Dorsey?
dan friesen
Jack Dorsey looks at me like I'm his guru.
jordan holmes
I'm really, really done with anybody treating a rich person like they're real.
Like, what's going on with Jack Dorsey?
No, no, no.
What's going on?
dan friesen
Don't care.
jordan holmes
Money!
dan friesen
The end!
Jordan, I don't even care about Jack Dorsey.
I want to talk about Alex Jones being his guru.
jordan holmes
Sure, okay.
Alright, well then that still makes sense.
Money is the only thing he cares about.
dan friesen
Well, I mean...
jordan holmes
It must have felt terrible to kick your guru off of your own platform.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Ban him.
Multiple times.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And leave David Knight on.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
David Knight is my nightlight.
dan friesen
I just think about this like you get kicked out of a bar and later you're like, the bouncer, I'm his hero.
jordan holmes
He loves me.
Guy fucking loves me.
Broke his heart to kick my ass out of there.
dan friesen
Yeah, but hey, look, Alex didn't tell that story to be powerful.
alex jones
By the way, folks, I didn't tell you that.
Jack Dorsey's story, to sound powerful or cool, I don't want to be part of Hollywood.
I don't want to be part of the Washington power structure.
It really is true that you cannot register or fathom how popular Infowars really is now.
And that was all God's plan.
And that was all you keeping us on air.
All of us together was a team effort.
jordan holmes
It's an extremely dangerous position to be in as well.
alex jones
But almost all these liberal talk show hosts that attack me, they actually listen.
I remember Mike Cernovich about five years ago, four years ago, he was visiting here.
He says, don't you know they all love you and they all listen all the time?
And don't you know all those big people like Jack Dorsey and all them are huge fans?
And I'm like, dude, stop trying to build my ego up.
I don't want to hear this.
That's bull.
It's all true.
jordan holmes
But I appreciate it.
dan friesen
It is all bull.
Don't believe anything Mike Cernovich says.
For one.
And for two.
Man, this is sad.
This is really grim.
unidentified
This is bad.
dan friesen
I guess, you know what?
The only people that I could really make a solid case who really dislike him but do listen to him are me.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would be us.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Alex is a confusing man in many ways.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
dan friesen
He has certain tastes.
jordan holmes
Disgusting ones.
dan friesen
He has a crush on somebody.
jordan holmes
Roger Stone's daughter?
alex jones
This really happened.
I remember about a year ago, visiting my, a little bit over a year ago, my wife's mother in San Diego.
And so, her house is little.
So we said, well, let's go to this nice country club that has a hotel.
Beautiful place.
I think it was the Fairmount.
Beautiful hotel and a golf course.
We could walk around the golf course and stuff.
jordan holmes
I'm rich.
You're not.
alex jones
I'm rich.
All the chemical spraying that they add to them.
Jet fuel.
And it's all in the patents, and it's all in the Nobel Prizes.
I mean, it's been going on since the mid-90s.
It's a perfect case of this industrial globalist takeover, how it's just there, and the general public doesn't know, but it's hidden in plain view.
And I said, man, I ought to have a website or a podcast.
I told my wife this, called Kim Trails and Country Clubs.
Because you're here at this beautiful country club, these beautiful pools, beautiful statues, five-star hotel.
I never stayed somewhere that nice.
There's chemtrails everywhere, and it's just raining down on everyone, and it's that symbol of how this has happened to everyone.
So then, I get up about 5 a.m., and I go get on the computer, I'm doing research, and I see, oh, well, that's it.
This big pop star, she must be an Alex Jones listener, because her new album is called Chemtrails over the country club.
Lana Del Rey.
dan friesen
Alex continues being super into Lana Del Rey.
jordan holmes
Still going on into Lana Del Rey.
He's super into Lana Del Rey.
He's so into Lana Del Rey.
dan friesen
Oh, it's awesome.
He is so into this Chemtrails over the country club.
jordan holmes
And he can't even enjoy it.
He can't even enjoy it.
He loves it.
He loves her, and he can't publicly...
He has to spend a fucking ten-minute jag on how famous he is to goddamn tech people, but he can't even come out and say he loves Lana Del Rey.
dan friesen
Now, Alex, I would like for you to challenge yourself and explain to me how much you love the song Born to Die.
Oh, hey, Alex, why don't you watch the National Anthem video and tell me what you think about that?
jordan holmes
Separate the art from the artist, Ed.
That's what you gotta do.
You gotta separate the art from the artist.
dan friesen
It's just so great.
It's so great that he has just, out of, like, the last two albums, just decided, I fucking love Land of Bell, right?
jordan holmes
He's into it.
He's into it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You don't bring it up.
dan friesen
He's fallen for this Americanist.
I guess maybe he found out that he was dating a cop or something.
jordan holmes
Oh, that could be.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't know exactly what it is, but it is really weird.
jordan holmes
Is that what we should be doing?
Should Antifa focus more on biplanes and crop-dusting mind control over resort towns?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I think that's a good idea.
dan friesen
I listened to this Chemtrails Over the Country Club song.
And I don't know, I still like Lana Del Rey enough, but I think I might be a little bored.
There were a couple good songs on Norman fucking Rockwell, but as a whole, I thought that song was really kind of just standard Lana Del Rey stuff.
It didn't do anything that really intrigued me much.
It kind of felt a little safe, a little down the middle.
jordan holmes
Is this alphabetically the sequel to Bombs Over Baghdad?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Moving on.
So Alex interviews Larry Pinkney, who's a Black Panther back in the day, and it's nonsense.
It's more just about how the FBI is running Antifa and Black Lives Matter and stuff.
But then Alex gets back to talking about Roger's wife, and this is the next day now.
This is the 15th.
He's still talking about Roger's wife.
jordan holmes
Already had a clarification.
alex jones
Roger Stone's wife got beat up.
It didn't actually happen on Thursday.
It happened the day before.
His wife didn't want to tell him.
The guy ran her over with a bike in her front yard.
She got up.
He pushed her down two more times.
And she knew that Roger would go crazy.
So she just said, a guy hit me with a bike.
Then she had to go to the hospital the next day.
And she told him the rest of the story that he told me.
And he's so upset he can't even come on the air.
And she's going to have emergency surgery probably today.
So that's a 74-year-old wife.
And then the guy beat her up.
And they're trying to get Roger to go crazy.
I mean, I understand.
That's what's happening here, and they did that to Larry Pinckney and others.
I need your support.
I appreciate your support.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
Alex, you can make up shit about my wife.
But I'm not going on your show to lie.
dan friesen
And please, just whatever you do, don't use fabricated stories about my wife to sell pills.
Oh, wait, you did?
Oh, how predictable.
jordan holmes
I think that's just...
If you meet Alex and talk to him for more than an hour, you have to sign a waiver that says he's allowed to lie about your time together.
dan friesen
You're probably right.
It's like an NDA.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
dan friesen
But it's, I'm gonna lie about this.
So, Alex has another guest on, and it's Steve Quayle, who is a noted weirdo.
He is someone who has a long history with Alex.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And shows like Coast to Coast.
He's also a guest on Jim Baker's show.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he fights president for a while.
dan friesen
He's written books about giants.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Apparently there's another book coming out soon about giants that Alex wants to not talk about.
jordan holmes
The Nephilim?
Is that what we're talking about?
We're talking about those giants.
dan friesen
We're talking Bible giants.
jordan holmes
We're not talking giants!
dan friesen
We're not talking about centers in the NBA?
jordan holmes
No, we're talking young earth creationism giants.
dan friesen
We're talking about the angels who fell and breeded with human women.
jordan holmes
Good stuff.
Got too big!
Got too big, Dan.
dan friesen
So, Alex, in the past, when we listen to episodes from the 2009 era around then...
Steve Quayle is around a bit more.
And Alex always talks about how he's a prophet.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He knows stuff ahead, man.
He's just really right about stuff.
So Alex asks him how he knows the stuff that he knows.
jordan holmes
I'm interested in finding out.
dan friesen
I don't know if you can predict this, and it's not a good answer.
jordan holmes
Okay.
steve quayle
My testimony is simply this.
I went from the guttermost to the uttermost.
I was a president of fraternity.
This is important.
That was wild on Montana State University.
I went to Hal Lindsey talking about Jesus.
Never knew about Jesus.
Never knew anything.
And I accepted Jesus in my heart.
I went home that night.
I was living in my mother's house 10 blocks from the university.
And Jesus literally, and I know this is going to flip people out, but he literally appeared to me.
I fell on my face.
He gave me a panorama of history and told me he was calling me.
Now, understand, I just found out who Jesus was the day that the Spirit of God convicted my heart.
But here's the thing.
He gave me a panorama of history.
I saw it in the future.
Just imagine a motion picture.
And then he gave me a statement.
He said, Steve, I am going to hide the things from you until they're shortly to come to pass.
And he told me, he said, I want you to prepare my people for the end of the age.
I'll bring people that know to tell you what you need to know, but you must be faithful to warn them.
Alex, that's true.
From that, that launched me.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
You are such a good medium.
unidentified
You do not need to do voices.
dan friesen
The reason that you don't know things is because I'm going to hide them from you and tell...
jordan holmes
I have appeared to you, Jesus, from beyond the grave, and I shall give you convenient excuses for why I am not explaining things to you.
dan friesen
Also, if the Lord came down and gave Steve a panoramic view of history, you should probably explain to Alex that Hitler wasn't elected president before the Reichstag fire.
jordan holmes
You know, Jesus left out that part.
For some odd reason.
dan friesen
No, everything's in the panorama.
unidentified
So weird.
dan friesen
He should know everything about history.
jordan holmes
But if you're seeing a panoramic view of history, one, that's a lot to take in.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
How long was he there for?
dan friesen
I mean, a day to God is a thousand years.
jordan holmes
Totally!
I feel like if you are there, like if we had some academics...
dan friesen
By the way, I'm not quoting scripture.
I'm remembering that because it's the name of a RZA song.
jordan holmes
Oh, the places that you learn.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
We see through a glass darkly.
dan friesen
Indeed.
jordan holmes
None of us have the full picture, but the RZA has a clearer picture than the rest of us.
That's true.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Steve talked to God, who gave him a panoramic view of history, and told him that he was going to lead God's people or something.
Now, Alex had a different visitation.
steve quayle
Sure.
alex jones
You see, you got a visit from Jesus.
I got a visit from the other guy.
So why did you get a visit from Jesus?
I got a visit from the devil.
steve quayle
Because I was serving the devil, wholehearted, and somebody somewhere touched God for me because I was totally beyond...
alex jones
You're wiser than I am, so why did I get a visit from the devil?
Which I'm not going to get into on air, but I got the other visit because I was pretty...
I love God, actually, but I got a visit from the other guy.
steve quayle
Well, listen, you only get a visit from the devil.
Even Jesus was tempted by the devil.
I'm not saying either one of us are Jesus, but I think it's really important, Alex, that people understand something.
This is a spiritual war.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I feel like everybody who's ever been interested in Alex Jones, again, should lead all their stories with Alex Jones.
Comma, guy who believes the devil visited him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just have a hard time.
I want to know the rules of this universe.
It's really getting annoying.
It's like when you're watching a superhero movie, and then at the deus ex machina, somebody already all of a sudden has a new power.
I'm annoyed by that.
dan friesen
It's like heroes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, set up the rules for me.
Exist within the rules of space.
dan friesen
When they started to get to the point where they could give people powers and heroes, it's just like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
unidentified
Come on.
dan friesen
We can't do this anymore.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
What's going on with that eclipse?
We can't do this.
We can't do this.
unidentified
Stop it.
dan friesen
Stop it.
jordan holmes
Nope.
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
You can't just...
Everybody's claiming that they got visits from superpowers and shit.
No.
Come on, man.
dan friesen
I got visited by Hephaestus.
jordan holmes
No, no.
You don't get it.
dan friesen
The god of...
The blacksmith god.
jordan holmes
See, it's actually proof that you're a good person that you got visited by the devil and that I was a bad person that I got visited by Jesus.
You see how it works, man?
It's like yin and yang, but we don't believe in that bullshit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
So that's the kind of conversation that's taking place on the show.
steve quayle
Yeah, I believe that.
dan friesen
And I'm listening to this, and I'm thinking to myself, boy, this show is dumb.
This is really dumb.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So Steve's got a prediction that has nothing to do with giants or visitations from other worlds.
steve quayle
And I want to make this statement.
Seven years ago, before President Trump even, you know, obviously became president, I made this statement.
Before God allows China and Russia to destroy the United States in a nuclear attack, he's going to reveal the sins of the leaders to the people and the people's sins before a holy God.
Everybody has watched the narrative.
Some of the sickest SOBs on the planet, those are sons of Belial, meaning Baal.
We've seen it.
We're seeing the deep state.
dan friesen
So I guess get a bunker?
jordan holmes
I prefer the Sulquarian Bilal.
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
I guess China and Russia are going to nuke us.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Why?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Aren't they heavily invested in us?
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
I think they want us to live.
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway, Steve is insufferably annoying.
Weirdo.
jordan holmes
No, he's doing great.
I love him seven years.
He's had visions.
dan friesen
If I want to just hear somebody talk about being visited by God and how Balal is going to nuke the earth or whatever the fuck.
jordan holmes
I could call my wife!
dan friesen
No, I'm fine with that.
I'll listen to that.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I won't listen to that same person tell me about Antifa.
jordan holmes
Well, there's probably that.
dan friesen
I'm just not playing that game.
Anyway, we go on to the 16th, and that's Saturday.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
What?
Alex has an episode on Saturday?
jordan holmes
That must be an emergency episode.
unidentified
Emergency.
jordan holmes
Emergency episode.
dan friesen
I think Alex has had a little bit of time to think.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
We got a new reason that the sixth happened.
dan friesen
There will be another reason.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
But that doesn't come until actually Sunday.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
But on Saturday, Alex has had some time to think after that Steve interview, and I think he might not be feeling good about it.
alex jones
Oh.
We all know the false flag is the scoundrels.
Ace in the hole.
They're ace of spades.
And now they've played it.
jordan holmes
Why isn't good governance ever they're ace of spades?
alex jones
And it gives me a just surreal feeling.
jordan holmes
Has anybody tried that?
alex jones
To have walked right into it.
And then to have Steve Pchenik on a few days ago.
Chortling and celebrating.
That fact.
But not in the way he said.
It's a little bit different.
But see, that's the thing about the globalist mindset.
As the terrain changes and they flip sides and engage in Machiavellian behavior, they think that's intelligence.
They think the cold, hard, social Darwinistic way they carry it out.
Is proof of their righteousness, and it's not.
dan friesen
So that seems to imply that Steve is a globalist.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I...
What's going on here?
And this will sort of play out as the episode goes along.
Alex is saying that Steve was chortling, but not in the way he seems.
The way he seemed to be chortling was that Trump had won and everything was totally fine.
The way he was actually chortling was at Alex's expense.
Now, it should be pointed out that our episode of Mocking the Shit Out of Steve's Interview with him came out on Friday.
This is Saturday.
So I don't know if maybe...
jordan holmes
We'll see.
dan friesen
I don't know if that's what led to this emergency episode of Reflection.
Probably not, but...
jordan holmes
I would doubt it.
dan friesen
But Alex is kind of realizing that, like, Steve is fucking with him.
He was talking about 1984 and about how Emanuel Goldstein is a setup.
It's queuing on.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And then he starts talking about other characters in 1984 and how they interacted.
alex jones
When their torturers came in to torture them, they thought that they were actually their friends because they couldn't believe they'd been conned.
Just like in 1984, O 'Brien, and it's all just a fictional account of this, is torturing him to death, but he still thinks O 'Brien's a good guy.
And he's like, oh, O 'Brien, they got you.
When O 'Brien comes in his jail cell, he goes, O 'Brien, they got you?
They got you too?
And he goes, oh, they got me a long time ago, Winston.
See, the difference is with somebody like me.
I know Pachenik's an O 'Brien type.
I'm just observing him and watching him.
I'm not Winston Smith.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
Okay.
No, no, no.
I'm not getting manipulated.
I am the master manipulator.
I am observing him as in a science experiment.
dan friesen
Yeah, you are.
jordan holmes
Sure, I've been doing this for 20 years, and the fact that he's complimented me has allowed him to say whatever bullshit that he wants to.
But I was observing.
dan friesen
I was keeping a close eye on that sneaky O 'Brien.
jordan holmes
Keep your friends close and keep your enemies closer, Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
This is sad.
jordan holmes
I am glad I'm not a narcissist.
And this would really, you know what, it would really fuck me up for a good day or two, you know?
But I wouldn't need to create a mythology around it.
I'd be like...
I got had!
And I would learn from it, and I would move on with my life, and he can't do it.
dan friesen
And then you would bring up the Nigerian email scam repeatedly on air as a metaphor.
jordan holmes
This has happened before!
dan friesen
So Alex is still talking about 1984, and he gets into talking more about this Emanuel Goldstein character.
alex jones
Here it is, Emanuel Goldstein.
Emanuel Goldstein is a fictional character in George Arwell's 1949 dystopian novel, 1984.
He is the principal enemy of the state, according to the party of the totalitarian Oceania.
dan friesen
So he's just reading the Wikipedia page for Emanuel Goldstein.
jordan holmes
Did they print it out?
dan friesen
I'm not sure.
I wasn't watching the video.
But the reason that he pauses there when he says the 1949 novel...
Is because on the Wikipedia page, it inaccurately says the 1984 novel, 1984.
They have the year wrong, so Alex was correcting that as he was reading.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
He hasn't read this, and it's just a Wikipedia page.
I have no interest in his analysis of 1984.
jordan holmes
Uh, no.
dan friesen
Anyway, he's bummed out, because, you know, on the one hand, they got false flagged, and he's pissed off about that.
jordan holmes
No, they didn't.
dan friesen
Well, according to him, they have.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And he's experiencing that tough.
And, you know, Biden's gonna be president.
It's tough times all around for the Patriots.
jordan holmes
Yeah, sure.
dan friesen
And there's literally only one solution.
alex jones
Thank you so much for joining us on this Saturday evening.
The only way we stop this globalist operation and foil their storm, Stormbusters, is by you taking this live feed and the archive feed from Bandit Video and telling everyone that they've got a martial law plan.
For the next few days and that only getting the word out can stop it.
We need this report to get 10 million views by Monday.
Hit your email list.
Hit your text message list.
Tell your neighbors to watch it.
Run down the street with a sign saying watch it.
dan friesen
The productive solution is just get me free publicity.
It's dumb.
jordan holmes
Man.
Brutal.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Mike Adams is back.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
For an emergency episode.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Alright, so we're gonna be told how we're gonna die?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Oh my god.
jordan holmes
It's very easy to know why Mike Adams is on an emergency episode.
dan friesen
Mike Adams is so goddamn dramatic.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, the owner of It's Over for Humanity, There Will Only Be Lone Survivors is dramatic?
dan friesen
He's like a junior high student.
This guy is going through some things.
jordan holmes
He's the dark kid who is writing poetry all day.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's behavior unbecoming of an adult, the way he acts.
It's maudlin, it's over the top, it's just not cool.
jordan holmes
It's like how you imagine Edgar Allan Poe in high school.
You're like, Jesus, that guy must have been exhausting.
dan friesen
I think more annoying, probably.
jordan holmes
Yeah, probably.
It's a smaller head.
dan friesen
There's artistic craft.
That's true.
So Mike wants to explain why there's so many troops in D.C. Now, my argument would be that a bunch of people stormed the Capitol.
jordan holmes
I don't understand.
dan friesen
And, you know, there's existing threats and, you know, continuing people saying they want to do it again.
jordan holmes
No, I'm pretty sure that the Patriots are universally nonviolent, Dan.
That's what I've heard from them.
dan friesen
It turns out there's a whole other explanation for these troops.
jordan holmes
Oh, interesting.
mike adams
30,000 troops.
Now, remember in Afghanistan, we only have about 3,000 American troops there.
So this is 10 times the size of American war in Afghanistan.
alex jones
This is an invasion force.
This is using a cannon to kill a fly.
mike adams
Right.
So the explanation that this is just for the inauguration is complete nonsense.
There's something else happening.
I've been sent photos of Patriot missile banks being set up in other states in America.
And as you know, there is legitimate concern about Chinese troops in Canada.
Chinese troops in Mexico.
dan friesen
This is just Q shit, man.
jordan holmes
Legitimate concern about Chinese troops in Mexico does not sound like something I believe.
dan friesen
I don't know why there would be an amassing of troops in Washington, D.C. if it was on the Mexican border, but...
You know, I don't know.
This is just dumb.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that does sound dumb.
I would argue also one of the reasons there are so many more troops is just because it's easier to get there.
You know how hard it is to get 30,000 troops to Afghanistan?
That's a long way away.
dan friesen
And hasn't Trump been scaling back the number of troops?
Totally.
They're more available.
Isn't that part of Alex and Mike's narratives?
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
So you shouldn't use that as the number.
Anyway, who cares?
Mike has evidence of somebody.
Who's saying that Trump is going to win.
They're a CIA shill.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I think he's talking about Steve Pichetta.
I don't know, though, because he won't name names.
mike adams
There are some bad faith actors that, even in the last 24 hours, I was able to confirm a particular bad faith actor.
I don't want to mention any names, but someone who had fooled a lot of people with online videos that were popular, saying that, no, Trump's going to be sworn in on the 20th.
That person is a CIA operative.
I've been able to acquire his ID number working at the CIA.
So that's an op.
dan friesen
If you had evidence that somebody was running operations and you had definitive proof they worked for the CIA, you would put that out?
probably dangerous for me to have the I mean that's what Alex would say right that's what Alex says all the time yeah have this information you have to get it all out yeah otherwise you're dead yeah Yeah, I mean, isn't this the mission impossible?
jordan holmes
If you identify an undercover operative, that's the biggest thing.
That will get you killed until you release that information.
Yeah, that's the whole movie.
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
So I think this is about Steve.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, we have some pretty serious things on the horizon.
Sure.
There's possible Chinese invasions.
Also, another threat to consider.
jordan holmes
Okay.
mike adams
I'm very, very concerned that the deep state is going to set off a dirty bomb in a U.S. city.
unidentified
Sure.
mike adams
And they're going to blame that on patriots.
And that's why they're desperately knocking on doors looking for somebody to recruit.
Somebody who actually has a history.
Of appearing on videos and podcasts and so on talking about guns or Trump or what have you.
dan friesen
You?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yep.
All of this stuff is you.
You realize this is you.
Are you speaking to a mirror?
dan friesen
Are you threatening to dirty bomb me?
jordan holmes
I am loving all of these.
I'm concerned about what they're going to say the Patriots do.
Because part of me is like, do you guys think the Patriots are capable of building a dirty bomb?
Because that concerns me!
dan friesen
I think they definitely are.
I mean, there was that Oathkeeper guy who was arrested a couple years back with a napalm bomb.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
I think what we're all really hearing from these people is, oh my god, I'm worried about what we created.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It might be out of control.
dan friesen
This, you know, this thing is an uncontrollable, completely out of line group that we thought would just be fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah, unfortunately...
All of our fanfic about history didn't warn us about what real history would have warned us about, an uncontrollable mob.
dan friesen
I think it's kind of like me starting the year of the seltzer.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I thought it would be good fun.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And I thought that, you know, we'd just have seltzers and I'd try them.
And it got out of hand.
jordan holmes
You picked, you went, 500 is too big.
dan friesen
And a year is too long.
It's an unwieldy amount of time.
It's an unwieldy amount of seltzers.
jordan holmes
It requires commitment.
dan friesen
I had it for a long time.
I'm not saying it's over.
jordan holmes
We still got the fiscal year's end.
dan friesen
I created something that I thought was fun, and it was fun.
It was a lot of fun.
We had a lot of momentum for a while.
jordan holmes
It was great.
dan friesen
But it was uncontrollable.
jordan holmes
Flagged a little bit, and then it came back!
dan friesen
It's still back.
Still uncontrollable.
jordan holmes
You can't just force it.
dan friesen
Yeah, this metaphor doesn't work.
But neither does democracy, apparently, because Mike has to tell you the country has fallen.
This guy is so dramatic.
jordan holmes
Sure.
mike adams
Well, the rule of law has collapsed in this nation, and whether you're arrested just depends on which side you're working for.
So if you're a pro-Trump patriot, you're going to be considered guilty no matter what you're doing.
If you're a radical leftist, you can throw Molotov cocktails and set fire to federal buildings and burn police cars and shine lasers at federal agents.
jordan holmes
In your mythology, you can.
mike adams
Or you'll be arrested and the charges will be dropped within 24 hours by a George Soros-funded district attorney in your local city.
So we have now entered the era of complete lawlessness.
There is no controlling legal authority that is legitimate in this nation, which means the Constitutional Republic has fallen.
dan friesen
Damn.
jordan holmes
Wow.
That happened.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
Big news.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a real bummer.
dan friesen
Huge if true.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I love all the...
dan friesen
There is no legitimate legal authority in America anymore.
Well, I mean, I guess that would mean it's game on, right?
I mean, all the things that would stop you from doing things like storming the Capitol, that would be laws.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And there's no legitimate legal authority.
And the Constitutional Republic has fallen, so, man.
jordan holmes
Do what thou wilt, if you will.
dan friesen
I guess Mike is saying, smoke them if you got them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It does see you like that.
It reminds me so much of all those 2021 articles where it's like, cops have been proven to hurt leftists at three times the rate of white nationalists.
And it's like, guys, I'm glad that you have new hard data.
But come on.
This is America.
We didn't need a new Guardian article in 2021.
We had Guardian articles in 1914 saying the exact same thing.
dan friesen
All right, but it's good to have more articles.
jordan holmes
Sure, but you could have just put up a picture of the flag and been like, see, this is what we do.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
Now, one thing you're not going to see an article about is the evil eye.
jordan holmes
I don't think that's true.
dan friesen
I once saw a documentary about this guy who actually had magical powers.
He could hypnotize people with his evil eye.
jordan holmes
With his evil eye.
dan friesen
Yeah, he was like a really rich dude.
jordan holmes
Was it narrated by Vincent Price?
dan friesen
No, it was this really rich guy.
He had a great mustache.
jordan holmes
I think...
Mesmer?
dan friesen
I remember that one of his employees was a guy who would watch films and then review them poorly.
Right.
That guy who was the film reviewer, his son went to the UN school.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's strange!
Dr. Demento?
dan friesen
Please tell me that you know what I'm talking about.
unidentified
No clue.
jordan holmes
The Critic!
Was that the critic?
dan friesen
Yeah, Duke Phillips.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
You were referencing Duke Phillips.
jordan holmes
I forgot about the evil eye.
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
Look into my evil.
jordan holmes
That's right.
He could do that.
dan friesen
I should have said something about the, he had country bears.
jordan holmes
See, now that's what I would have, if you said he has the country bears.
dan friesen
We're the bears who sing for Duke.
So, yeah.
Evil eye.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Apparently is a real thing.
alex jones
I don't want to have a George W. Bush moment with you where he said, you know, I think Putin's a good guy.
I looked in his...
He has a soul I can trust.
But everybody knows it's the eyes.
Everybody knows it's a wind of the soul.
I look at your eyes, and I see a serious, intelligent, focused person that's really concerned.
You look at my eyes, you basically see the same thing.
I look at the eyes, and it's increasingly worse at the grocery store or in public, and I'm seeing more and more agitated, crazy-looking people that look like schizophrenics or demons.
And let's just put a photo up of a composite of some of the Democrat leaders' eyes.
And folks, it's not like we're cherry-picking photos.
It's every photo of them, they look like they are from another dimension.
Back this out.
I mean, I've met some of these people.
I've been in rooms with these people.
And what is it about the eyes?
What is going on?
I know you study the medical issues, the 5G, the GMO, all of it.
But what is causing people to look like this and to act like this?
unidentified
Medical weed.
mike adams
In this case, it's not a medical issue.
It's a spiritual issue.
They are demonically infested.
That's no joke.
It's not an exaggeration.
There are actual demon or demonic entities that are possessing these people.
And then what happens is the body, the physical body, begins to mirror the internal dark spirit structure.
dan friesen
This is the health ranger.
jordan holmes
If you...
Don't understand what led to the situation on the 6th that you created and fucking caused.
This is what you would say.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Your political enemies are literally demon-possessed, and the Constitutional Republic has fallen.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You are not fighting...
dan friesen
It's not responsible rhetoric.
jordan holmes
Bananas.
dan friesen
I just think it's funny that this guy runs a natural news, like, alternative medicine site, and he's sitting here on air talking about how people's eyes can tell you of their demons inside them.
That's another thing, like, lead every article about Mike Adams with this.
Mike Adams, who believes you can see demons in eyes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I'd hate for him to look at me.
I have a cross-eye.
Like, what would he think about me?
jordan holmes
Oh, you're a demon.
dan friesen
That obviously would say something terrible about me.
jordan holmes
I mean, the cross-eye is the sign of the demon.
dan friesen
I was born this way.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
With a demon.
unidentified
Sorry.
dan friesen
So dumb.
These people are stupid.
So anyway, Alex starts talking about Steve.
And I would say that he describes Steve kind of like how you might describe a lunatic.
alex jones
Let's talk about Steve Pacinic here.
I've been interviewing him for 19 years.
He is a big spook.
He was involved in a lot of incredible stuff.
And he did help write Tom Clancy's novels.
And he has that twisted side where he laughs at you and says, you know, oh.
We co-opted you, and he exaggerates and does all that condescending stuff.
But he's an interesting guy, so I have him on.
But he's done a lot of good things.
Exposing 9-11 as an inside job.
dan friesen
Wow.
All right.
jordan holmes
Man.
dan friesen
You fired David Knight.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
You dumb motherfucker.
dan friesen
It hasn't even been that long since he fired David Knight.
jordan holmes
It really has not.
It really has not.
It's such a great turnaround, too.
So fast.
It's like a goddamn Twilight Zone twist.
dan friesen
Kind of, yeah.
If David Knight wasn't so boring, this could be a huge boost to his career.
jordan holmes
Totally.
No, his credibility would go off the charts if anyone were still listening.
dan friesen
I did actually listen to a video of David Knight talking about Steve after...
I believe it was after the 6th.
And I was like, man, scathing stuff.
So boring.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Couldn't even get any clips from it.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But he does say that Alex fired him because of Steve.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah.
dan friesen
And he says that Alex doesn't care about anything except traffic to the site.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah.
dan friesen
Damn!
Coming with them boring swings.
jordan holmes
Jesus, David Knight.
Thanks for speaking obvious to power.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Mike and Alex get to wrestling with the idea that Steve made this bet about the election, and, like, how if he's wrong, it doesn't matter, because then he can never come back on the show again.
jordan holmes
This is fucking 1910s people discussing, like, well, if she is a witch, then, unfortunately, we're gonna have to burn her, but we don't know yet!
dan friesen
You gotta look her in the eye.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
mike adams
What Pachenik was promising you, what I notice about that, he made a bet with you.
And you were going to offer to employ him if he's right, and he was going to offer to never come on your show again if he's wrong.
Well, there's no downside for him to offer that, because if he's playing us, it's his final play.
He will never want to come on your show again anyway.
alex jones
Well, he was laughing at me, and it was very obvious that was the final play.
But I knew weeks ago that's what he was doing.
I predict it's the final play.
jordan holmes
That's why you fired David Knight.
alex jones
And I'm going to demand he come back on whenever what he said doesn't come true.
mike adams
Yeah, well, you know, if Biden's sworn in, he can just say no, and what are you going to do?
You know, go find him and put him on camera?
No.
dan friesen
No shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no shit.
Why?
dan friesen
By the way, it's not the final play.
Steve will be back in like a couple of months.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
Pretend this didn't happen.
jordan holmes
It didn't.
dan friesen
Done this rodeo too many times.
jordan holmes
No kidding.
dan friesen
I guess this is a little more severe than other times, though, because like...
jordan holmes
Well, it's clear Alex's feelings are hurt.
dan friesen
Oh, severely.
But he's hurt Alex's feelings in the past.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I just haven't heard him be like, I've been using you, man.
jordan holmes
I know.
That one's too good.
dan friesen
That was great.
jordan holmes
That was just too good.
That eclipses four stars for sure.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Not as pithy, though.
Not as much of a soundbite.
jordan holmes
No, that's true.
That's true.
dan friesen
So, Mike is worried about a dirty bomb, worried about Chinese invasion.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And he also is worried about anyone going to protest.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Don't do it.
jordan holmes
All right.
mike adams
To everyone listening, do not participate in any of these Capitol protests.
Not that there are really any actually being organized by patriot groups.
But don't participate in those.
Don't go to the Capitol.
This is all a false flag operation.
You're being set up.
What you can do is legally and lawfully prepare to defend your home, your family and your local neighborhood or community against any kind of aggression that may that may happen if the left believes they can carry out a local uprising and go door to door killing people like what happened in the Cultural Revolution.
This guy is so dramatic.
dan friesen
This is painful to listen to.
jordan holmes
Do these people not hear themselves?
Like, I know they don't care about words.
unidentified
Yes, they don't.
jordan holmes
I know they don't care about the words that they say.
But I cannot imagine listening to somebody who tells me that my political enemies are literal demons and then in the same breath tells me that I shouldn't protest.
Don't do anything but barricade your doors.
dan friesen
Don't do the protesting because that's a trap.
But you should be ready to kill people who are coming door to door.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
To kill conservatives or something.
jordan holmes
I mean, we are going to have a...
Dearth of Jehovah's Witnesses if they go to the South.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
I wouldn't do it.
dan friesen
So, Alex is worried about migration.
He's worried about immigrants coming in.
jordan holmes
I can't believe we can just change topics to immigration right now.
dan friesen
He has an interesting theory.
By interesting, I mean absurd and probably motivated by racism.
alex jones
If you look at Europe and the model they want here, every home they say is going to have to take an African or Middle Eastern migrant.
Then that's a spy on your house that works for the U.N. so they can do whatever they want and further break down your home.
I mean, this is literally the takeover of civilization.
dan friesen
That's messed up.
I don't know why you'd assume that any immigrant that you allow and agree to have in your home out of the charity of your own heart would be a U.N. spy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Cool.
jordan holmes
You could just say, okay, well, first off, you could say no to this, I imagine.
But second, If you do have somebody in your home, don't they know how insanely hostile you are towards them?
Wouldn't they have some idea?
Or even the government who's like, okay, we're going to put you in all of these homes, one per home, but not this one.
Those people are going to kill you.
dan friesen
Yeah, it doesn't seem like it's in anyone's best interest.
jordan holmes
No, it's not.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a paranoid fantasy of white nationalist types like Alex, and that's all.
There you want spies, though.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we can't quarter soldiers in our homes, goddammit.
dan friesen
Keep that in mind.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Because that might come back.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
So, Alex was sort of going down this path, but he gets distracted by thinking about Steve again.
He doesn't like that Steve...
jordan holmes
He really hurt his feelings.
dan friesen
Yeah, because Steve was laughing at it.
alex jones
So, we'll track this together in what could be the final shows.
I mean, you heard, Mike, like you said, this could be your last time coming on.
Steve Quayle said that, but notice Pachenik thought it was funny.
About, oh yeah, just don't worry.
I won't be coming back on your show probably again.
Because, you know, very maniacal.
Because I don't think he's delusional.
And I think he knows something really, really big is coming up here.
And then he wants to just put that last laugh in of, oh, and by the way, Jones, thanks for helping us get martial law with what happened to the Capitol.
dan friesen
I think that Steve was laughing at Alex, but I think he's also delusional.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
They're not exclusive.
dan friesen
No, but they are for someone like Alex.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Because he's built up Steve over the years far too much to sort of penetrate the facade of the fake version of him that he's presented to the audience, which is really easy for someone like you or me.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because we're like, this guy is crazy.
jordan holmes
This guy's dumb.
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
He's a very high-functioning, very smart, delusional person who is...
Forrest Gumped himself into every single historically important thing.
And Alex has just allowed him to do that and reinforce his credibility over and over and over and over again.
And now it doesn't look so good.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It's not like Steve is a pathological liar that is aware of his pathology and is laughing at you for buying anything that he says.
He's a pathological liar who is laughing at you for not believing his lies.
dan friesen
Maybe both.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And you know what?
Steve wasn't laughing at Alex when he said he wouldn't come back on his show.
He was being dismissive.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He was like, if I'm wrong, I'm not coming on your show anymore.
Don't have me on your show anymore.
He was asserting confidence more than anything.
jordan holmes
I think it's so funny how much...
Alex condescended to the Q Shaman, who is a fan of his, who believes almost identical shit to Steve Pachenik, and then how much he got his ass handed to him by Steve Pachenik, who is supposed to be his friend.
dan friesen
Yep.
And the Q shaman's going to prison.
jordan holmes
Maybe that's why these people just exist, because it's not possible for them to have good relationships with people.
Like, they simply cannot do it.
What they believe is friendship is exploitation, and what they believe is love or affection is actually a secret plot to kill them.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, you know, I'm quoting Pete Santilli here, you know?
Everybody on the right wing is, they're just waiting for the right bidder to sell you out.
jordan holmes
Ain't that the truth?
Ain't that the truth?
dan friesen
So, at this point on this emergency Saturday broadcast, Alex gets into what I would describe as incredibly familiar territory.
alex jones
My goal, I woke up about 3 a.m. this morning and couldn't sleep.
And you're so clear at like 3 a.m. when you went to bed at like 8. I went to bed early, got up at like 3 a.m., had some coffee, and I was really clear.
I was out on the back porch.
You look at the mist.
And I thought, I need to go on air tomorrow, like it's my last show ever, and say that to people.
And then I forgot to do that.
You just said that.
And so, people, download this to hard drive, save it.
This show, next week's show, literally, there's a good chance it's our last show.
That's not drama, okay?
So, Mike, speak to that, and then after you're gone, I'll have my messages if it's my last show, because this is the knowledge now, that if they just have this knowledge in the future, they're going to win and beat the globalists.
jordan holmes
We did this already!
dan friesen
This is so frustrating.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know why?
Because it was a running bit on our show, because he kept saying this, and then on November 24th, he actually did it.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And it was sad.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
It was a failure.
jordan holmes
A complete...
dan friesen
Completely fucked up.
And I understand why he'd want to do it over.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, just call a mulligan.
dan friesen
But it's just so annoying.
Nothing matters.
We did the payoff for this joke already.
Why are you doing it again?
jordan holmes
Why are you hurting me?
This feels like it's personal.
This is a personal attack.
dan friesen
I'm not a good enough comedian to pull off doing this joke again.
We already did the season.
jordan holmes
Totally.
We've, like, look.
I had one joke that I told for longer than three years.
And even that was a little bit too long.
This is over.
We move on.
We write new material.
We gotta go.
Alex, you're a hack.
dan friesen
You're a hack!
It is.
It's hacky.
steve quayle
It's hacky.
dan friesen
It's like, okay, you're a writer for Home Improvement, right?
I don't know why this came into my head.
Maybe it's because Tim Allen's a conservative dude.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Tim Allen is the star of the show.
So there's an episode that you do.
And, like, a season later, he insists that you do the same story and pretends or seems to not be aware that you've done this story already, and now you've got to try and find a way to make this episode happen, because he's the fucking star, and what he says goes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Now you've got to try and make it funny again that Alex is doing his goddamn fake last broadcast again.
I'm furious.
unidentified
It's terrible.
jordan holmes
Just terrible.
dan friesen
If there's one thing that does work and is really funny, it's that Mike Adams is taking it...
Very seriously.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Because he is very dramatic.
jordan holmes
He's a dramatic man!
dan friesen
He's like, it is such an honor to be here.
jordan holmes
Oh my god, no!
No!
Come on!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You fucking...
dan friesen
It's really silly.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
And so he gets to talk about how when all this goes down, right?
When the fascist state that comes and puts us all into a bind.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Once that falls, people like Alex, people like Mike...
And the info warriors will be needed to rebuild society.
mike adams
The evil fascist regime will eventually fall.
It will fall under its own arrogance.
It will fall under its own mistakes.
Under the weight of its own deception.
It will eventually fall.
As many evil regimes have fallen in the past.
You know, we defeated the Third Reich.
The USSR fell.
I can't even call it American.
This globalist coup against America will not last forever.
It will fall.
And when it does fall, it's people like you and I and the listeners to this show who will be necessary to rebuild the next society in the image of Christian principles and values with added new freedoms that weren't in the original Bill of Rights, such as health freedom.
The right to always say no to medical interventions, to say no to vaccines, to say no to chemotherapy.
jordan holmes
Medicare for none!
mike adams
That right, which was, I think, Dr. Benjamin Rush, wasn't it, who wanted to put that in the initial Bill of Rights, but it didn't make it in there.
We need that to be the Third Amendment, for example.
We need the First Amendment, freedom of speech and religious expression, Second Amendment, but we need the Third Amendment, freedom, health freedom.
You always have the right to control your own body.
The government can never force anything upon you.
dan friesen
I mean this sincerely.
I don't know if Mike Adams knows there's already a third amendment.
jordan holmes
I genuinely agree with you.
I 100% believe you.
dan friesen
That means he might not know about the other ones after it.
That's fucking scary.
jordan holmes
I'll tell you the one that he definitely doesn't want to know about.
Anyone that involves slavery.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Some of those later ones he's probably a little bit iffy on.
jordan holmes
Very against.
dan friesen
That was weird.
I don't...
I mean, like, I understand that he dwells in a media space that really obsesses about the first and second.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, the third is pretty important, too.
That's that quartering soldiers one.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was gonna say, I really remember that being quartering soldiers, but then I...
See, this is the problem whenever people like him say stuff so insanely confident, and I have to be like, I swear to you, I know what this is, but there's a question for one second of, like...
Maybe I just mistook it.
Maybe I could be wrong.
It could be the Sixth Amendment.
Maybe I don't know.
dan friesen
Even if you're in this extreme right-wing world, there was a real long stretch of time during Obama's presidency where they were obsessed with the Tenth Amendment about states' rights and all that nonsense.
And so I don't understand.
I mean, it would be so easy just to say we need another amendment.
Instead of a third.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
There are the people who have spent so much time slapping a constitution.
Telling you to read it and putting it in their pocket have never read it.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
And definitely couldn't understand it if they did.
dan friesen
Also, I think that Mike's imagined health freedom amendment would guarantee access to reproductive health care, including abortions.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
It would guarantee the right to not have access to this.
dan friesen
I know that he's considering that it's like a thing where the government can't force you to have medical things done.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But wouldn't you also want to make sure the government can't force you to not have any medical procedure you think is necessary done?
That seems like an important element of health freedom.
These people are fundamentally stupid.
I just can't stand it.
I hate this dramatic weirdo.
This guy is so weird.
He thinks evil eyes exist.
jordan holmes
I just don't know.
dan friesen
I love the deadpan, just junior high guy going through puberty, kind of like everything is so serious kind of delivery of...
They're going to dirty bomb us.
It's an honor to be here with you, Alex, on your last show.
After the fall of the American fascist state, people like you and me will be needed to rebuild society.
jordan holmes
Whether it is nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous dirty bombs.
dan friesen
So now Alex is supposed to be doing his last episode thing here, but instead he has Robert Barnes on.
jordan holmes
That would be his last episode.
unidentified
Barnes just talks more shit about Q. He's just on to talk more nonsense about Q. I hate him.
dan friesen
But he's talking about...
Okay, so Barnes is laying out what QAnon did.
And one of the things that they did was they targeted certain groups.
Now, if you listen to this, it sounds almost identical to the InfoWars business model.
robert barnes
They also targeted three groups in particular.
QAnon targeted, first, people that otherwise are crowdsourcing, grassroots investigative journalists.
Second, they targeted soldiers and ex-soldiers.
Third, they targeted cops and ex-cops, and people that also were religious.
So they're people that are accustomed to believing in a source of authority, independent of and separate from the state, incorporated references to religious rhetoric, incorporated references to Bible verses, incorporated references to...
God.
alex jones
This is Gnostic, Gnostic Roman cult stuff.
Explain that.
dan friesen
You're describing InfoWars.
jordan holmes
That should be his last broadcast?
Because it's Barnes explaining what Alex does.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Unreal.
dan friesen
More or less.
jordan holmes
Unreal.
dan friesen
So Alex gets to complaining about the FBI.
jordan holmes
If this was Shakespeare, he would give that soliloquy and then immediately be stabbed.
That is how this works, okay?
dan friesen
So Alex is talking about the FBI, and he's made a big deal about how they're saying that he caused the uprising.
He planned the storming of the Capitol.
It comes clean a little bit about what they actually had questions about.
alex jones
Sure, let me bring this up to you now.
I'm talking about myself.
FBI contacted our security people, wanted to bring them in, wanted to talk to them.
Oh, we don't care about Alex, we want to talk to you.
And then we refused to get lawyers, and so they go, okay, don't worry about it.
We just got false reports that you guys were in the Capitol.
Just tell us you weren't in the Capitol.
Yeah, we weren't in the Capitol.
dan friesen
Sam was.
Your cameraman was.
He was doing a plug when he went in.
jordan holmes
Do you know how we know that?
dan friesen
It's on your website.
jordan holmes
It's on your website.
It is being broadcast.
On your website.
dan friesen
I got it from bam.video.
jordan holmes
Also, if I were the FBI, I too would be like, let's talk to your security people, not you.
You lying piece of shit.
dan friesen
I've seen your depositions.
jordan holmes
You're not helpful.
We did hire Larry Klayman for this one, though, so it's pretty exciting.
dan friesen
Alex talked to Barnes about how bad Q is for a while, and it's annoying.
And then he gets on his own, and he...
He reads a fake Cicero quote.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And a real quote.
His favorite quote.
The man in the arena.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The Teddy Roosevelt quote.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The bystanders and the reviewers, they matter not.
The man in the arena, he falters and that is okay.
jordan holmes
All right, Teddy.
dan friesen
That kind of shit.
jordan holmes
All right, Teddy.
dan friesen
He reads that quote so much.
I think it's the only thing that gives his life meaning anymore.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Then he goes a little bit off track.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So we got Roosevelt.
We got Cicero.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And now this.
alex jones
Then a friend of mine sent me this text message this morning.
Subject forwarded from a friend.
A man named Tom Nicholson posted on Facebook his account.
The sports car that he had just bought.
Now a man approached and told him that the money used to buy the car could have...
Fed thousands of less fortunate people.
But the industry and the factories that built it also built the factories that built the tractors, dumbass.
And also built the desire for people to have nicer things that then builds a desire for better medicine and better technology and a better future.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm not reading what he said.
His response to the man made him famous on the Internet.
Read a story.
It's stated on Facebook below.
A guy looked at my Corvette the other day and said, I wonder how many people could have been fed for the money that sports car cost.
I replied, I'm not sure.
It fed a lot of families in Bowling Green, Kentucky, who built it.
It fed the people who made the tires.
It fed the people who made the components that went into it.
It fed the people in the copper mine who mined the copper for the wires.
dan friesen
Alex is reading a chain email that your grandma would send you.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
This is nuts.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I believe this is the meme.
This is the same meme that's like the military man was in the professor's room and the professor was like, war is bad.
The military man stood up and was like, I hate liberals.
dan friesen
It's outrageous.
I was like, I don't know.
jordan holmes
Fuck off.
dan friesen
I thought this was supposed to be your last broadcast.
You're reading a chain email.
What is going on?
alex jones
You know, I said this could be my last broadcast.
It really could, but I...
It's just too heavy of a subject to say this is my last broadcast and then do it here.
I'm just too tired already, but I'm going to write some notes tonight, tomorrow, and come on the Sunday show, 4 to 6 p.m., and give you my view on the world.
dan friesen
So Sunday's going to be the last show.
jordan holmes
So here we go.
Let's do the last show.
That's catnip to you, Dan.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And that's why we have to include Sunday.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But we're not done with Saturday yet.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Saturday ends in just a remarkable way.
For anybody who really thinks that Alex Jones is, like, sincerely religious, enjoy.
alex jones
So I will end the transmission with this, the Lord's Prayer.
Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors.
Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever.
Amen.
All right, I appreciate the crew.
I appreciate their work.
I would just ask the listeners.
I don't know how long we're going to be on air.
We got great products you need.
A lot of them are about to sell out.
Winter Sun for your immune system is about to sell out.
dan friesen
I don't know about the Lord's Prayer going that quickly into an ad.
jordan holmes
And Jesus went into the temple and said, Guys, get the fuck out of here.
I am selling t-shirts!
dan friesen
Oh, that's interesting because Alex is also selling a t-shirt.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
alex jones
And we have this new shirt designed by one of our veteran friends.
It says Trader Joe's, and it's got Joe Biden with China and Russia and Ukraine and Iran that he sold us out to.
It says Trader Joe's.
It's a fun shirt.
dan friesen
It's fun.
alex jones
Infowars.com.
unidentified
It's a good pun.
alex jones
All sizes for adults and children.
And so I suggest you get the shirt at Infowarsstore.com.
It's a limited edition shirt, and it lets us have a little bit of fun with the new puppet dictator that they are installing.
I hope I'm wrong.
That's why Steve Pachinik said, oh, it's my last show with you, because it's the jokes on me, he thinks.
Or he really believes what he's saying and he thinks he's going to get a job here if somehow Biden resigns and Trump's the president.
Well, yeah, he's got a job here if that moonshot happens.
Wow.
People want to listen to Pachinic anyways.
Interesting guy.
But I think he's a little more on the devil's side than the angel's side.
And I'll tell him that the way he talks down to people, the way he pacifies people, the way he patronizes them.
jordan holmes
To you.
alex jones
But I let those guys act like that.
unidentified
To you.
jordan holmes
This is about you, buddy.
alex jones
They're the big guys.
They're in the system.
I'm the outsider.
I'm not the system.
That's who I'll always be.
Because I'm here changing the system.
And that's my job, not to be part of the system.
Okay, again, great job to the crew.
dan friesen
He seems really mad.
jordan holmes
I hate, I hate how comfortable these people are with demons existing on our plane and running things.
To the point where you would be like, hey, here's a fun t-shirt.
About this demon that's running the world.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
It is a little bizarre for him to be like, we made this pun t-shirt so we could have a little fun with the dictator.
jordan holmes
It's the devil!
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a satanic globalist dictator.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
It's very weird.
jordan holmes
That's so annoying.
That's so annoying.
A demon is an existential threat!
And you're like, eh, we'll make this fun little t-shirt.
dan friesen
So we're on to Sunday now.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Last broadcast.
jordan holmes
Final broadcast ever.
This bit is finally going to be put to rest.
dan friesen
Well, Alex can't get to it right away because there's news and he has a new group to blame for what happened on the 6th.
alex jones
Now we knew it was Antifun told you that the day of the event.
jordan holmes
After.
alex jones
We told you who the operator was, where he came from in Utah.
How he led over 100 Antifa to address the Trump supporters.
jordan holmes
100?
When?
alex jones
But I told you, I said, I saw folks that didn't look like meth head Antifa on the videos.
I got there about 30 minutes after it started.
jordan holmes
My employees.
alex jones
Capital.
That looked like right-wingers.
You know, that didn't look like they'd been grown in their mother's basement.
jordan holmes
That looked like I employed them.
alex jones
Looked like that actually had some steak and potatoes and done a little fighting.
And sure as hell, we identified who they were.
They were telling the crowd they were Proud Boys, but I checked them.
They weren't Proud Boys.
They were Boogaloos.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Boogaloo Boys going under the bus.
jordan holmes
No.
Slaps.
Slaps all around.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Gotta throw the Boogaloo Boys overboard.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
I really like how Alex said Boogaloos.
alex jones
Boogaloos!
jordan holmes
He really hit it.
dan friesen
He really enjoyed it.
jordan holmes
He really did.
He really did.
dan friesen
So apparently, this is how he's going to get around the fact that there were a bunch of people who were Oath Keepers.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And are in trouble.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I assume Stuart Rhodes isn't on this Sunday broadcast.
dan friesen
Alex is going to soon be making up a story about Stuart Rhodes' wife getting run over.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
Something about their dog.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because he's going to be in hiding.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex has a new video of the Boogaloo Boys.
Sure.
Oh, God.
This is so funny.
Like, Alex, he is so bad at this whole thing.
alex jones
And it's just so incredible because you try to get this out, the only place it gets out is here.
Gateway Pundit's got an article about it, you name it, but now it's very clear what went on and what happened.
But let's hit the first big one I just told you about.
You can bet your bottom dollar you'll be seeing this on Tucker Carlson tomorrow night because Tucker's the first one to send it to me.
I'm going to leave it at that.
But, you know, those that are in Fight Club, don't talk about Fight Club.
You know, the second rule of Fight Club, don't talk about Fight Club.
I send him stuff.
He sends me stuff.
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
dan friesen
That's exactly against the rules of Flight Club.
jordan holmes
That's talking about Flight Club.
I just, I just, that's...
dan friesen
I don't know if I could come up with a more Alex Jones sentence than Tucker Carlson sent me this clip.
I'm going to leave it there.
You just said everything.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
There is nothing more to say.
jordan holmes
Nope.
This clip was sent to you by Tucker Carlson.
And if that's true...
That tells us all we need to know about Tucker Carlson.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'd love to get a comment from Tucker on that.
jordan holmes
Absolutely!
dan friesen
Because I would imagine he would not admit to sending information to Alex and being a source.
I don't think he would like it.
jordan holmes
On account of Fight Club being ruled as don't talk about Fight Club!
dan friesen
Yeah, and so, I mean, I would imagine that he would say, no, I didn't.
And then Alex would have to wrestle with why no one will be publicly associated with him.
jordan holmes
But they'll have his employees on their shows.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Anyway, the...
At this point, we've now decided that the Boogaloo Boys are going to be blamed for anybody who appears to be right-wing.
jordan holmes
So we got Antifa for people who don't feel right-wing, and we got Boogaloo for people who are right-wing.
dan friesen
And QAnon for people who are weird.
alex jones
Right.
jordan holmes
Even though...
Sure.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Fine.
dan friesen
So, now that that's settled, it's time to go back to familiar territory.
alex jones
Let's play this next.
Over 7,000-strong migrant caravan inches closer to the U.S. border as Biden vows to end Trump asylum.
And this will be hundreds of thousands, if not millions, like hit Europe.
It's the U.N. plan.
As soon as they knew Biden would let them in, they began the march out of a U.N. camp in Honduras into Guatemala.
Here it is.
dan friesen
So yeah, the migrant caravan narratives are back.
jordan holmes
Just, just, just do it.
Take four years off.
And run reruns where you just edit in Biden over Obama.
It's going to be the same thing.
dan friesen
There'll be a lot of similarities.
jordan holmes
Think about how much time you can take off if you're just going to recycle the same shows.
Just run reruns.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I hope that you have drafts of all of your articles from the Obama days.
jordan holmes
Save those Google Docs.
dan friesen
So yeah, man.
Migrants are coming to America.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And it's a UN plan that is war.
jordan holmes
Why not?
alex jones
War doesn't look like it did in Vietnam or Korea or the Gulf War.
This is modern war.
This is globalist war against the nation state.
So wear your mask and take your vaccines and roll over and die.
But remember this, submission only makes it worse.
This is the end of America.
In the next two years, the country will not exist, guaranteed.
dan friesen
I mean, almost kind of feels like you're...
Saying a good answer would be to storm the Capitol.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
It does sound like we are at war.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And the enemy is demons trying to bring in immigrants.
That sounds suspiciously like white nationalist talking.
dan friesen
Oh, big time.
jordan holmes
It really feels like that's white nationalist.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
alex jones
This is part of the Great Replacement, the Great Migration.
The UN uses people as a weapon.
They turn their food off.
They turn their jobs off.
You just think you're staying home for a few months, and okay, it's a vacation.
No, it's collapsing the border.
When you become poor, the third world starves to death.
When the first world collapses, the third world dies.
How many times did I drill that into your head?
And now in Europe, and now in the U.S., everywhere, the borders are collapsing at giant.
Third world populations that don't have jobs and don't have infrastructures are coming here to do what?
Collapse the infrastructure.
First they get you to not go to work.
Next they get you to say you're not essential.
Next they shut down Main Street.
Next they shut down the side streets.
Then they come in and tell you...
That you've got to open your borders up because the third world's starving to death in mass, and then they get here and they're organized into political weapons and political groups that from the beginning were trained for up to a year in a UN refugee camp in Marxist-Leninist ideology projected by Mark Zuckerberg, projected by Jeff Bezos, projected by all them on record commanding it.
dan friesen
That's quite a sentence.
Yeah, you know, any concerns that it might not be a white nationalist thing?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I wasn't.
dan friesen
Certainly really made it pretty clear there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, let's put it bad.
dan friesen
Now, I would say that, I mean, we've been over this territory so many times in the past when he's gotten into the past caravan narratives and how this is very much based on a white identity fear.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Now, I would say that...
The behavior that he's engaging in and the way that he's framing a lot of these ideas are very dangerous.
They are the sort of things that I do think sound a lot like incitement towards violence of people that you suspect might be immigrants.
alex jones
This is the takeover.
This is modern warfare using giant third world starving hordes that have been put in the position of starvation or invasion.
And the UN is going to manage with the left every damn bit of it.
And they're going to swamp your red city.
They're going to swamp your red town.
And they're going to take your ass over because you're under military attack.
dan friesen
I don't know what you would expect the outcome of that to be other than like rank xenophobia.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And the possibility of violence directed towards people that are determined to be immigrants, whether or not they actually are.
jordan holmes
Followed by a sign at every border that says whites only.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's pretty bad.
It's not unfamiliar territory for Alex, certainly.
But I just constantly end up getting in a position where the world is really serious.
I just don't understand how Alex cannot be living in a world of reflection about how serious things are and how unhinged people are and how dangerous we are in a misinformed populace.
People are living outside the prism of reality and I don't believe that he is a committed believer of the things that are distorted reality.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
He's...
Monetized it.
He's exploiting the fact that other people are living in the fake reality that he preaches.
That he wouldn't be able to operate if he actually believed the things that he's saying.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
He wouldn't be able to work.
He wouldn't be able to do any of this shit.
He would be dead by now because he would have stormed the Austin Capitol 10 years ago.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
It's nonsense.
And I just constantly think like, well, now I'll take it seriously.
And he just never does.
He never does.
jordan holmes
It's, I mean, yeah, it's hard to say anything, you know, when you ask, like, how do these people not take it more seriously?
And it's just, like, scream, I just, money!
It's money!
dan friesen
It can't matter that much, though.
jordan holmes
It does!
dan friesen
I guess.
jordan holmes
It matters so fucking much!
dan friesen
I guess.
Anyway, Alex gets to talking about how his enemies are ugly, and they want to kill you, and he rambles a bit about this, and then he, I mean, he's just, I don't know, I would say that this is an incitement towards violence, too.
alex jones
And it's all weird, disreputable creatures, because that's all they can get.
Because there's such virtue in humanity that no good-looking, no well-spoken, no honorable man will even serve this.
But it still doesn't matter.
Just because honorable men don't take the field and don't join the enemy, the enemy goes, great, because you didn't join the fight.
And the fight is informational, it's cultural, it's spiritual, and it's about boycotting, and it's about information war, and it is about...
Noncompliance.
It is about civil disobedience, and it won't matter.
They're going to hurt you so bad because they have a nature, like a child molester's got to rape a child, or a murderer's got to kill.
They just have this drive and this desire, and they've got to have power over you, and they've got to inject you, and they've got to shut your farm down, and they've got to shut your business down, and they've got to see their stock go up at Amazon, and they've just got to do it, and they've just got to put you down.
They can't help it!
And they're going to go and go and go and go and go.
They can't ever stop until you stop them.
dan friesen
They can't stop until you stop them.
jordan holmes
Wild.
Wild.
dan friesen
It's not a good look overall.
jordan holmes
You know what I've always thought?
I've always thought that the Democrats' secret weapon could be governing the country well.
And they refuse to do that for the same reason Alex refuses to take the 6th seriously.
unidentified
Money!
jordan holmes
If you material improved the lives of the...
I'm just running my...
I'm losing my mind.
dan friesen
I understand.
And if you think that Alex is solely driven by money, then I would suggest that this must be what everyone keeps telling him to do more of.
alex jones
Humpty Dumpty, Brian Stelter, like 100,000 viewers, he later bitches, no one watches me!
Well, no kidding, dude, you look like a child molester!
I'm not saying you are one, but I mean, I'm not letting you babysit my kids, bro.
You molest the truth.
I'm sorry.
Let's go back to them.
brian stelter
Both are happening.
Both are happening from the same platforms and the same pro-Trump media outlets.
Both are problematic.
Chris, what do you say to the following?
We have to be clear-eyed about what is a domestic terror threat, but also very careful not to exaggerate it, not to overstate it.
alex jones
Rewind this again.
Rewind 10 seconds.
There's a domestic terror threat.
It's called your speech.
Oh, they killed four Americans at the Capitol.
It was a riot, a small riot.
It's the worst thing since Pearl Harbor.
jordan holmes
You're a child.
alex jones
We've got to be careful not to exaggerate it.
He plays all these games.
Let's go back to this sack of pus.
dan friesen
It's interesting because it was supposed to be his fake last show again.
And it is fitting that he would do an entire segment complaining about a Brian Stelter piece on his fake last show.
Because that should go in the time capsule.
jordan holmes
Totally.
100%.
dan friesen
It has been a while since he's done one of these where he just plays a Brian Stelter interview that's uncontroversial.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Just a completely normal...
dan friesen
Yeah.
I was listening to it and I'm like...
I was like, first of all, he's not saying the things that Alex is responding to.
No.
Second, it is not a hot take.
It is a pretty soft conversation about misinformation online.
jordan holmes
You would take Brian Stelter to just a regular old, like, hey, how have you been?
And turn it into a ten minute long, this is why he's a demon who molests the truth.
dan friesen
Look at his eyes.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
So anyway, for old time's sake, here's a minute 40 of Alex just getting really mad at Stelter.
brian stelter
We have to be clear-eyed about what is a domestic terror threat, but also very careful not to exaggerate it, not to overstate it, not to create undue fear in this country right now.
dan friesen
I think that's absolutely right.
We've got to be very careful here.
unidentified
Just because someone may believe that the president did not win the election, or the president-elect Biden did not win, or that someone believes in QAnon, doesn't mean that they're going to go pick up arms.
alex jones
And pause again.
It's like we're outlawing him questioning the election, but we don't put him in a FEMA camp right away.
jordan holmes
Did he say that?
alex jones
Nope.
jordan holmes
Did anybody say that?
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
What are we talking about here?
alex jones
Oh, we just shut him down.
And then, oh, we kill him.
This is all psychological scripts they're reading.
Super predatory, super dangerous, super evil.
Continue.
brian stelter
Is that possible, Alex?
Will there ever be a solution, a real, clear, full solution to this information crisis that has been perpetuated, in my view, by platforms like the one I used to work face?
alex jones
Is there a final solution, he's asking.
Like, how do we deal with these people that, like, you know, saw them with suitcases in Georgia, pulling them out and closing things, and saying the water main broke, and then all these Biden votes come in.
And, you know, Biden can't get 20 people, but Trump gets a million.
But, you know, what do we do?
What's the solution?
We're going to come back.
I'm going to be nice.
I'm going to play the clip unedited.
Because by edited, I'm jumping in.
I'm talking over.
It's just, it's hard to look at someone with no viewers.
But it doesn't matter.
It's what the banks...
They know that the globalist word is through Stelter.
That's Jeff Zucker.
And so here is this Hitler, this Stalin, this Mao.
I mean, they call us that.
He's the one trying to arrest everybody.
jordan holmes
It's Brian Stelter.
dan friesen
He's Hitler.
jordan holmes
I'm not...
Look, I'm not saying he's not a public figure or he hasn't accomplished anything.
I'm just saying he's Brian Stelter.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He's Hitler.
jordan holmes
He's Brian...
Stelter.
dan friesen
Is the voice of the globalists.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
The voice of the globalists, Brian Stelter.
jordan holmes
I hate how small potatoes everybody who's a big deal is to these people.
dan friesen
I think it's fascinating because if this is the pretend last show...
It makes sense.
I mean, like, Alex hates Brian Stelter for reasons that I can't quite figure out.
Except that Brian Stelter has mentioned Alex a couple times.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And he comes off as a less than Alex's definition of masculine man.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I think that that bothers Alex on some level.
jordan holmes
Right.
It feels like he's been emasculated by a less masculine man in Alex's eyes.
And just saying that Alex is a dumb-dumb.
dan friesen
And because I don't think that Brian Stelter lets Alex live in his mind, whereas Alex is clearly thinking about Brian Stelter all the time.
jordan holmes
All the time.
dan friesen
He's curious about him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he hate-watches Brian Stelter so much.
He has to.
dan friesen
And you see this, like...
Just to come out on the show, these outbursts, it's amazing.
jordan holmes
I'm so glad that I've passed my Friedersdorf stage.
dan friesen
Yeah, well, you had to get it out of your system.
jordan holmes
I had my time, and now it's over.
dan friesen
You processed it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Unhealthy healthy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, I got through it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
So Alex comes back from break, and he promises, not going to interrupt now.
alex jones
And they're just, I mean, this is so textbook 1984, and you're just watching these criminals talk about it.
But I'm not going to interrupt them.
Just go ahead and play it unedited.
Just play a few minutes of this.
I'm going to try to shut up.
Go ahead.
unidentified
We have to work on the broader disinformation problem to try to turn down the anger that you see from that huge percentage of Republicans who believe that the election was stolen.
brian stelter
I'm sorry, stop it.
jordan holmes
I was really close.
It was 10 seconds.
unidentified
I should have done the countdown.
dan friesen
So E is unsuccessful.
Oh God, it's so much stelter.
And so he's talking about how, like, we're at war to not be enslaved.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
alex jones
There comes a point when powerful organizations and groups decide to make their move.
No matter what happens, they're committed to the fight.
It has a name.
It's called war.
We are now under open globalist attack.
The United States did not see the sneak attack.
I tried to warn people for decades.
People going back to Barry Goldwater, Cleon Scousin, some of the others warned before I was even born.
But Americans were arrogant.
They believed that we were so strong, we could not fall.
We had major rot from within.
And now, we face the prospect of slavery and massive persecution and the full thrust of the globalist attack at levels never before seen.
That's why tomorrow I'm going to do a special transmission.
jordan holmes
Don't you fucking dare.
alex jones
Is this Alex Jones' last broadcast?
Because every day now is precious.
dan friesen
Go fuck yourself, man.
I'm not doing this.
I'm not going to be strung along.
jordan holmes
I can't believe this.
dan friesen
By the likes of you.
jordan holmes
I want to start fires.
I want to start fires.
I don't want to start building fires.
I want to start large brush fires just in the street.
dan friesen
I understand.
jordan holmes
Just to let everyone know what is happening.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Alex is doing another final broadcast.
Like I'm sending smoke signals up.
dan friesen
There's too many people who are unaware that he is doing this again.
It's so annoying.
jordan holmes
I need someone to know that he is doing this again.
dan friesen
It's so annoying, too, because he did nothing but waste time on this Sunday show.
There's so much just like, it's the Boogaloo Boys.
That's who we don't like now.
Tucker Carlson's my source.
Whoops, Fight Club.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then yelling about Stelter.
jordan holmes
Stelter, Stelter, hate.
dan friesen
I got blisters on my fingers!
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
I'm so tired, Dan.
dan friesen
This last clip here from Sunday is fitting.
This is kind of how Alex wraps up the show.
And I will say that it is exciting for me because now on Friday, on our show, we will finally get his actual...
jordan holmes
Sure, sure we will.
unidentified
His actual second last episode.
dan friesen
But here's how Alex goes out on the 7th.
Just perfect.
alex jones
But I'll just recap what we started the show with before I have this important information.
We know the Boogaloos left this group with the Antifa, a few hundred people, staged the attack.
Only the Q folks were dumb enough to go in to get media attention.
It was Q people that went in non-violently to be set up and arrested.
They didn't arrest the Boogaloos.
When they've arrested Antifa, they're released later.
They did their job well.
They set up America.
Trump knew his supporters were patriotic and nonviolent.
He said be nonviolent.
He didn't incite anything.
They went down there to say, we see the election fraud.
We have the numbers to show it.
Trump fought back.
He did the right thing.
He didn't roll over.
He didn't submit.
If you want to keep us on air, go to Infowarsstore.com and get t-shirts, books, films.
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But separately, this is New World Order.
This is 2020.
I remember reading when I was 10 years old.
They have world government by 2020.
In congressional record.
I was into that stuff back then.
It was so interesting.
So again, here we are.
Every generation goes through something.
Every third generation goes through something really big.
We're going through it right now.
So I want to thank the crew for their great job.
Here is this amazingly important report from a major pop artist exposing Kim Trills and country clubs.
jordan holmes
Don't do it.
alex jones
I hope that you will share.
jordan holmes
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
alex jones
Kim Trills over the country club video.
It's posted to Bandai video.
Here it is.
dan friesen
It's amazing.
unidentified
He introduces Leonard Del Rey's video for chemtrails at the country club as a report.
It's a very important report, this music video.
jordan holmes
Okay.
He used a lot of words to say that the Patriot movement is filled with stupid, gullible cowards, but I understand why he tells his version of the story.
It's far more exciting than saying that the Patriot movement is a bunch of stupid, gullible cowards.
dan friesen
Well, that's what Pete Santilli would say.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Man, I love, like, I want to see what the most trivial thing Alex would call an important report is.
jordan holmes
We are fighting demons who are overthrowing the United States Republic, destroying the Constitution.
We need upwards of two amendments now, and I will tell you this right now.
We're going to go out to our special report.
That's right.
It is a Looney Tunes cartoon.
Here we go.
dan friesen
From our new reporter here at InfoWars, Lana Del Rey.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
God, what a ride.
jordan holmes
What is happening?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Are we fake or is he fake?
dan friesen
I can't tell anymore.
jordan holmes
I just don't know.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I just don't know.
dan friesen
I don't feel like I learned much.
jordan holmes
I learned a lot about history.
I learned a lot about World War II, Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, I'm glad I got the benefit of his thousands of books.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
It's nice to see multiple instances of him just reading Wikipedia pages poorly.
God, this is dumb.
This show is so dumb.
I'm really excited for Friday, though.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, it's his last broadcast.
dan friesen
Well, I mean...
Can't wait for the second last broadcast.
jordan holmes
Can't wait for the second last broadcast.
dan friesen
And it'll be better than the November 24th, for sure.
jordan holmes
Well, I would hope so.
dan friesen
Can't be worse than that.
jordan holmes
He's had time to think about it.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
And multiple false starts.
Yes.
Yeah, and I just think there'll be something interesting on the day of the inauguration.
Like, I hope that everything goes smoothly in the world.
You know, we're recording this on Tuesday.
It comes out on Wednesday.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I hope it's an uneventful day, by and large.
But I also hope that Alex cries or something.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I hope he throws a hatchet or something.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, I hope there's something interesting and it's not just mopey Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's gotta bring something.
dan friesen
There's potential for, like, some real performance.
And I hope we see something as opposed to nothing.
But I hope that the something that we see isn't this, like...
That Sunday show, the, like...
The hard shift into immigrant bashing is really not good.
I know that that's a normal thing for Alex, but it had been absent for a little while, or at least on the back burner.
I really don't like to see it coming forward again.
It's really annoying.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the full let's direct our attention away from all Democrats directly towards minorities of any shape, specifically ones that aren't white, is normal, but it was...
It was nice whenever they just wanted to kill us all equally.
You know?
dan friesen
There was a feeling of...
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Camaraderie?
dan friesen
I guess.
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
Anyway, Jordan, we will be back.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
You bet.
We're on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledgefight and I go to bed, Jordan.
dan friesen
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook.
If you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work right now.
dan friesen
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
I'm telling Mike Adams to grow the fuck up.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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