#521: Salt Break
Today, Dan and Jordan attempt to take a break from Alex Jones by checking in on a past subject of theirs who actually was also at the Capitol on January 6.
Jan. 18, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
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Knowledge Fight. | |
| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | ||
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Knowledge Fight. | |
| Dan and Jordan, Knowledge Fight. | ||
| Need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
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Stop it. | |
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
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It's time to pray. | |
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
|
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Thanks for holding. | |
| Hello, Alex. | ||
| I'm with your skin color in the future. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| Jordan! | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan! | ||
| Jordan! | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| What's your bright spot today? | ||
| My bright spot today is I'm talking into a new microphone. | ||
| Oh, that's right! | ||
| We are talking into a new microphone. | ||
| They look the same. | ||
| I completely forgot. | ||
| Exactly the same. | ||
| They're the same. | ||
| Still cheap-ass pad microphones, but they're new. | ||
| I noticed some poppling and crackling in a couple of our recent episodes. | ||
| I decided it was time to get at least new cords, and man, this new windscreen feels good on my face. | ||
| It does. | ||
| It's much smoother. | ||
| It doesn't have years of other people's faces on it. | ||
| Yeah, pre-COVID. | ||
| Pre-COVID other people's faces. | ||
| You're the only one who's touched it since then. | ||
| Yeah, for four years, we're the only ones who've touched it. | ||
| Yeah, it's nice, though. | ||
| I bought a desk mic stand as well, but it does not attach to the mic holder. | ||
| It looks there. | ||
| I still have some work to do on that front. | ||
| But yeah, it's my Weekend Warrior type project for today. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| How about you? | ||
| Similar Weekend Warrior type project, Dan. | ||
| I have... | ||
| For probably like 13 years, lived in apartments, in apartment buildings, with people around me. | ||
| And so when I left for apartment living, I also left my drum set behind. | ||
| I miss it. | ||
| Your guy likes to throw some sticks around. | ||
| I played drums since I was like 8 years old, and then I had to stop at like 19 for the aforementioned reasons. | ||
| And it has been difficult, and finally I realized that you can get an electric drum kit for like $300. | ||
| So I got one, and it's fantastic. | ||
| Wow, how about that? | ||
| It's very cheap. | ||
| It's garbage. | ||
| I'm going to break it in a week. | ||
| It's going to be like when I played Rock Band. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Just destroying those pads. | ||
| Just smashing it to death. | ||
| But it is so good to get back to drums. | ||
| Somehow it's still going to be too loud for your partner. | ||
| She's still going to be like, keep it down. | ||
| Here's the weekend warrior. | ||
| The last time that I tried having a conversation while she was at work... | ||
| Our rooms share a wall. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| And I am me. | ||
| Loud. | ||
| Loud. | ||
| And I have a tendency to toss language about. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| In jest. | ||
| Not fit for the classroom. | ||
| No! | ||
| Most of her high school students have heard me speak. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So I bought some soundproofing shit, so my entire room is going to be turned into a studio, essentially. | ||
| Good luck with that. | ||
| Soundproofing is kind of tough, unless you can get inside the walls. | ||
| Yeah, I'm working on it. | ||
| Well, that's fine. | ||
| I hope you have some nice, fun Dave Grohl-esque drumming adventures in your future. | ||
| Hey, who hasn't played along to Queens of the Stone Age songs for the dead? | ||
| I have only on Rock Band. | ||
| Yeah, but see what I'm saying? | ||
| You're not even a drummer and you've played along with me. | ||
| I think I've played Everlong on Rock Band. | ||
| Well, that one's fairly easy. | ||
| Not on Expert. | ||
| Yeah, you don't know your 16th notes, bro? | ||
| No, I don't. | ||
| It's very fast. | ||
| My foot gets tired. | ||
| I miss rock band. | ||
| You let the sticks do the work. | ||
| That's what a lot of people don't know about drums. | ||
| You think you gotta hit it with your arm. | ||
| You just move your wrist a little bit. | ||
| You say that and it's like a cryptic mystery or something. | ||
| No, it's not a mystery. | ||
| You let the sticks do the work, Dan! | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I loved rock band. | ||
| I spent hours, hours trying to 100% helter-skelter. | ||
| An expert? | ||
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Okay. | |
| I don't think I ever succeeded. | ||
| You never succeeded. | ||
| I think I tried it hundreds and hundreds of times. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because you get an achievement in Beatles rock band if you're 100% an expert. | ||
| I just couldn't get it. | ||
| Couldn't get it. | ||
| Couldn't do it, huh? | ||
| Ringo, gotcha. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| The classic drummer that throws people off. | ||
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Look. | |
| I'm sorry. | ||
| A lot of the other songs are pretty easy, but Helter Skelter is a little complex. | ||
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Sure, sure. | |
| I'm also not very good at rhythm-based stuff. | ||
| No, that's fine. | ||
| I'm sorry if I... | ||
| I don't mean to make fun of you. | ||
| I'm just a bully. | ||
| I'm a bad person. | ||
| That's all right. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we got an interesting thing on our plates in front of us, and that is that we don't really have an episode. | ||
| That is an interesting thing on our plates. | ||
| So, here's what happened. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| I did not want to do another episode for today about Alex. | ||
| I wanted to push that to Wednesday because I needed personally a break from him. | ||
| I was tired of his bullshit. | ||
| Last week was emotionally exhausting. | ||
| Yeah, starting on the preparation for Friday's episode on the 8th, straight through to present. | ||
| It's been a lot. | ||
| It's been a lot of stuff that I grow weary of. | ||
| And then at the same time, the payoff of the interview with Steve Pachenik on our last episode was almost... | ||
| Two. | ||
| It was season ending. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It felt like it was a fucking season finale. | ||
| We got Stevie Peas giving us the fucking cliffhanger. | ||
| And telling Alex to his face. | ||
| Yeah, I have been lying to you for 20 years! | ||
| I decided to anoint you as the vehicle by which I would set off a military coup. | ||
| Wait, hold on, hold on, Doc. | ||
| I have been the puppet master! | ||
| Yeah, you think you're in control? | ||
| No, sir, I. There's something about that that was so satisfying and narratively interesting to me that I found myself... | ||
| Having a really tough time going back to Alex. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I know it'll be temporary. | ||
| I'll be able to get back on the horse soon, but I sat down to try and listen to the other episodes, and I was just like, I can't do this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so what I wanted to do... | ||
| Naturally, in times like this in the past, what we've done is we've gone to various other online... | ||
| Space weirdos? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah, if we could. | ||
| And so, yeah, I checked in on Carrie Cassidy over at Project Camelot, and she had a video the day after the storming of the Capitol. | ||
| She's on some Q bullshit for 100. | ||
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You bet! | |
| Yeah, 100%. | ||
| A million percent. | ||
| Zero possibility that that wasn't going to happen. | ||
| No. | ||
| I got really bored listening to that, too, because aliens weren't in place. | ||
| Yeah, why would it? | ||
| What did you say? | ||
| Fuck out of queue and get back into space, lady! | ||
| I did find out from listening to this, but it wasn't worth getting too deep into. | ||
| There's apparently an Archon alien, a singular one. | ||
| Okay, just one. | ||
| That runs the CIA. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I did not know that. | ||
| I didn't learn that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And it used to be this guy, Archon, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I think Carrie has some intelligence that he might have died, and now there's a female Archon that's in charge of the CIA. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Unclear. | ||
| Prove that he's dead and not a shapeshifter. | ||
| Can't do it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Can't do it. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| I challenge you. | ||
| Yeah, Carrie, bring it to me. | ||
| So then I was like, well, I bet Jim Baker's disappointed. | ||
| And I still don't like talking about Jim Baker. | ||
| I don't know why. | ||
| I just don't. | ||
| Still makes me a little bit uncomfortable. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| I think that I'm not going to be able to go back to that well ever. | ||
| Eh, fuck Jim Baker. | ||
| I just... | ||
| What is he going to say? | ||
| God does shit? | ||
| Well, we've moved on. | ||
| Talk about how great his big-ass bucket of oatmeal is. | ||
| You and I have both read the Bible and eaten survival food. | ||
| We can just move on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So then, of course, I was kind of like in a bind. | ||
| I was like, I don't know what I'm going to do. | ||
| Got to get something together. | ||
| And then I remembered. | ||
| That when I was looking at pictures of the Capitol on the 6th, I saw somebody wearing a Pass the Salt shirt, which of course is the name of Dave Daubenmire, Coach Dave. | ||
| It's the name of his radio ministry, his YouTube broadcast ministry. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| Pass the Salt. | ||
| I saw that and I was like, whoa, there's Dave Daubenmire shirts at the protest at the people storming the Capitol. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Was he there? | ||
| That would be amazing. | ||
| Who else is wearing a Dave Daubenmire shirt? | ||
| Well, it wasn't him. | ||
| I would have recognized him in the picture. | ||
| But I was like, Coach Dave had to have been there, right? | ||
| And so I went and I checked. | ||
| Dave Daubenmire was at the Capitol. | ||
| He could not possibly have been there. | ||
| He was at the Capitol. | ||
| Dave Daubenmire decided to go storm the Capitol. | ||
| Coach Dave. | ||
| Son of a bitch. | ||
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He led the... | |
| Football team. | ||
| I can't come up with a metaphor. | ||
| Guys, win one for the Gipper! | ||
| So today I wanted to take a little bit of a look at that, but it's not really much of an episode. | ||
| I wasted a lot of time watching these streams for what will ultimately be kind of, I don't know, a little bit deflating. | ||
| It's not going to be... | ||
| Look, if you like our show, tune back in on Wednesday. | ||
| We will have a full episode if you're expecting that. | ||
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But we're going to listen to a little bit of Dave Dovenmeyer. | |
| What if an episode of Battlestar Galactica was like, hey guys, this is a bottle episode. | ||
| We couldn't afford to really do much here. | ||
| Listen, if you want to see some space shit, come back next week. | ||
| So one of the things that I thought was really funny is on the 6th, Dave is... | ||
| Coach is recording and doing a live stream from the metro, from the train in D.C. So it's a little bit iffy. | ||
| The sound is not great. | ||
| The connection is... | ||
| That'll happen. | ||
| But one of the things that he does that I think is really... | ||
| What may be unfortunate in hindsight is he literally doxes every single person who's on that train with him going to DC. | ||
| Like, if any of them went in the Capitol, his broadcast could be identifying information. | ||
| It will... | ||
| Look, it's obvious. | ||
| This was always going to be the case. | ||
| That this would happen. | ||
| But the fact that the people most afraid of Bill Gates tracking them all the time have doxed themselves so completely, it's just, it's never not gonna be obvious. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| He's just going around like, oh, this is Greg from Idaho. | ||
| Totally, totally. | ||
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What? | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Don't do this. | ||
| Oh, man, I love it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, Dave gets to talking about how many people there are going to be there. | ||
| I do like how it seems the only people who are uninterested in doxing each other are Antifa. | ||
| They're the only people who are like, hey, if you're going to video people, don't put their face in it or say their real names. | ||
| Everybody else is like, I'd love to be on TV! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Here's my social security number. | ||
| Yeah, exactly! | ||
| Are you from Nigeria? | ||
| I met a guy once! | ||
| So, he gets to talking about how there's going to be so many people there. | ||
| And this is big. | ||
| This is not just a protest. | ||
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From what I saw, Dale, four million, they said there's possibly four million people that are going to be here in downtown Washington, D.C. Very, very strong, powerful message. | |
| And most of the people have not come just to chant four more years. | ||
| No, I don't think so, Coach. | ||
| I think it's far beyond that. | ||
| Once again, Donald Trump is not going to call. | ||
| He called for this rally. | ||
| He has a platform at 9 this morning, I believe. | ||
| He is going to talk. | ||
| It's not a pep rally. | ||
| I do not believe. | ||
| This is game on. | ||
| Remember we talked about, you know, we always have 11 men on offense and 11 men on defense in the field. | ||
| This is like the coach turning to the stadium and saying, get on the field. | ||
| Now's the time. | ||
| I think I might be feeling inspired to write a book. | ||
| Your Honor, Exhibit A. I feel like there's a great book to be written about all of the right-wing media stuff prior to the Capitol storming called This Looks Bad in Hindsight. | ||
| Yeah, totally, totally. | ||
| But ultimately, the thing that's really interesting about it is it's not really that different than the way they talk normally. | ||
| You know, it's pretty much... | ||
| Hubris, a Nazi tale. | ||
| So there's a guy on the bus there, and Dave goes around, and he checks in on the temperature of the people in the crowd. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Hey, how you doing? | ||
| Hey, how you doing? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And this guy says it's now or never. | ||
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Well, I'll tell you what, it's time we stand up. | |
| This is it for our country, I'd say. | ||
| Either now or never. | ||
| Now or never. | ||
| I've enjoyed the blessings of the United States of America for 74 years, and I just don't want to see it go. | ||
| Basically, to the communists. | ||
| That's what we're looking at. | ||
| We've got to hand it off to our children. | ||
| It's our children and grandchildren. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| The commies. | ||
| They're coming. | ||
| And it's now or never. | ||
| You've got to stand up and fight these commies or else your grandkids aren't going to have a capitalist country to live in and have a great time with. | ||
| I like the real low tier of these guys because I recognize how they talk. | ||
| And that is exactly like comedy producers who have never put on a good show. | ||
| I think we're going to have about 4 million people here tonight. | ||
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Oh, yes. | |
| Yeah, that is awesome. | ||
| I think we're going to have so many people here tonight. | ||
| I'm telling you, I've got so many Facebook messages. | ||
| People are committed to showing up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You should have been here last week. | ||
| Oh, well, actually, it was going to be 4 million, but it rained. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Oh, I forgot that there was a Bears game today. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| It's Sunday. | ||
| There's always a game. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| Your show is weekly on Sundays. | ||
| You gotta know there's football. | ||
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You gotta know there's football, man. | |
| So yeah, there's a little bit of pride or a little bit of expectation and excitement. | ||
| It's definitely palpable. | ||
| You can tell they feel like they're getting ready to go. | ||
| Do something more than chant four more years. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Yeah, the electricity was clearly in the air. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And interestingly, I mean, I think that the people who are there have a lot more to say than just that Biden stole the election. | ||
| There's certainly some ideas that are being trafficked on this bus that are interesting. | ||
| Great ideas. | ||
| Great, highfalutin ideas. | ||
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Glide's going to tell us how to become a citizen of our local states rather than the government. | |
| Is that right? | ||
| Actually, what you're doing is you're moving from the admiralty and jurisdiction of the sea to the jurisdiction of the land and the soil. | ||
| And it's just very simple. | ||
| You just remove yourself. | ||
| You go through the process of the paperwork to remove yourself as a U.S. citizen. | ||
| And become a citizen of the state you were born in. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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And join the assembly of states in your state. | |
| That sounds right. | ||
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And then you become a state national or a state citizen. | |
| Oh, of course. | ||
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There are rumors that Trump is a state national. | |
| And he's already gone through this, knows and understands all of this. | ||
| And what we have to do, we talk about seceding. | ||
| We don't need to secede our states. | ||
| We need to secede ourselves one at a time. | ||
| And move over to the land jurisdiction. | ||
| And what we're doing right now is, thanks to Judge Anna Von Reitz, she's done all the paperwork so that we now, right now, are repopulating the original Constitution of 1787. | ||
| So I think Anna Von Reitz, if I recall correctly, is somebody that I've heard Carrie Cassidy bring up quite a bit. | ||
| So there's a nice little overlap there. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Can I, for people... | ||
| I wrote... | ||
| In a scream. | ||
| I wrote in a scream, Dan. | ||
| Yeah, people who aren't here in the room can't tell those are big old letters. | ||
| Those are big old letters. | ||
| What do we got there? | ||
| He just basically said, all right, that... | ||
| The president that they love most is not an American citizen. | ||
| Yeah, that is a problem with his theory. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But that's because sovereign citizens are higher up on the ladder. | ||
| So you're going to come at me with Obama wasn't born here, and then you're going to tell me that your president isn't even American? | ||
| Get the fuck out of here! | ||
| He's super American. | ||
| What is that even? | ||
| Constitution of 1870. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| That's all just QAnon, Sovereign Citizen shit. | ||
| It's a bummer. | ||
| It's a real bummer. | ||
| It's amazing to me how important paperwork is to these people and how unimportant reading is. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's fun, too, because, you know, you got Dave here, Coach Dave, on the bus, and he's having this guy explain how you become a citizen of the land. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| You gotta take your way from the Admiralty. | ||
| And he's not like, I don't know about that, man. | ||
| He's like, oh, great. | ||
| I can't wait to have you on the show again and talk more about this. | ||
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What? | |
| So good. | ||
| But look, this guy knows what he's talking about. | ||
| I think he went to law school. | ||
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So our whole movement, I believe, is going to be about teaching people how to get out of the jurisdiction of the Admiralty Law and the Law of the Sea and the Vatican, which is the law of the air. | |
| Law comes from L-A-W. | ||
| Land, air, water. | ||
| That's where the word law comes from. | ||
| The three jurisdictions. | ||
| The Pope figured this out in 1300. | ||
| That's who we're living under right now. | ||
| The Vatican. | ||
| The same Pope? | ||
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The only way to get out of it is to go and land in soil and get back under the Constitution of 1787. | |
| Sure. | ||
| Land, air, water. | ||
| That's what law means. | ||
| Are we doing this? | ||
| Are we doing this, Dan? | ||
| We're not. | ||
| The Vatican is the law of the air. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then I think the British Empire is the land of the law of the sea. | ||
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Sure. | |
| The maritime law is under British common admiralty law. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| And then I guess the land is just everybody. | ||
| The land is freedom. | ||
| The land is just the constitution of the United States. | ||
| Freedom. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But not the United States. | ||
| Individual states. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because we're also... | ||
| The articles of people? | ||
| Does this apply to people in other countries? | ||
| Like the law of the ground? | ||
| No, the Vatican owns their air, so they don't have any choice. | ||
| See, the Pope figured this out in 1300. | ||
| Figured what out? | ||
| That law means land, air, and water. | ||
| In what language? | ||
| It's not spelled that way. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Fire. | ||
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Water. | |
| Air. | ||
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Long ago, my father was the Avatar. | |
| Talk about elements. | ||
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Oh, man. | |
| J.K. Simmons. | ||
| Fantastic! | ||
| Elements equal jurisdictions. | ||
| You ever fuck with Avatar, Dan? | ||
| No. | ||
| Not the Cameron bullshit. | ||
| I'm talking about young boy. | ||
| Young boy with air powers. | ||
| No. | ||
| I watched the James Cameron movie because I was brought along to it by friends who insisted I go see it because they liked Firefly. | ||
| No, wait, that's Serenity. | ||
| Serenity's great. | ||
| But I also saw Avatar because it was too big to not see. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| You know, it was one of those things that, like, you gotta... | ||
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You didn't see The Rise of Skywalker. | |
| I'm an adult. | ||
| There was... | ||
| There was a time when that came out, I was of the age where it's like, yeah, you gotta see this. | ||
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Well, sure. | |
| People are gonna be talking about it. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I don't care about that now. | ||
| No. | ||
| So, I think I did see The Last Skywalker. | ||
| You did not. | ||
| I think I did. | ||
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When? | |
| When? | ||
| Tell me when. | ||
| What, did you get it on DVD, Dan? | ||
| Yeah, I went to the Redbox. | ||
| No, I think I did see it, though. | ||
| We'll deal with this later. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Anyway, there's three jurisdictions. | ||
| We're all under... | ||
| Wait, he's saying that we're under maritime law, but apparently the Vatican, that's air law. | ||
| Yeah, I would like him... | ||
| That's avian law. | ||
| Before we go any further in any conversation with this guy, I want to know exactly the laws of air. | ||
| I need to know what air law is that the Pope has control over. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If I were to go any further in this conversation with this guy, which I wouldn't... | ||
| Here's how it would go. | ||
| What's over there? | ||
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And I just walked. | |
| I had a friend who really perfected that move, like pretending that he saw something somewhere else and just would walk off. | ||
| I really admired the hell out of his ability to get away from things. | ||
| You know, I've done that many times. | ||
| You know you get into those party conversations where it's four people and the three of them start having a conversation and you're like, I want to jump in, but it's just not going to happen. | ||
| You look over and you're like, oh my god! | ||
| And then you just walk away. | ||
| You saw a friend! | ||
| I think the key to pulling that off perfectly is that you have to end up somewhere that's not in direct eyeshot of the people you just left. | ||
| Because otherwise you're just going to be milling around over there. | ||
| Anyway, Dave has heard that there's a lot to be worried about. | ||
| There's a lot of threats on the ground. | ||
| There's like Antifa and what have you. | ||
| He's not worried about any of that shit. | ||
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I'm not worried that they may have bricks down there that they're going to throw at us. | |
| I'm not worried that they're going to shoot pepper spray at us. | ||
| I'm not worried that the governor's going to call in this person and the mayor's going to call in this person. | ||
| I'm not worried about any of that stuff. | ||
| We're in war. | ||
| We're going to war. | ||
| We're prepared for war, spiritual war. | ||
| But if the physical war breaks out, there's going to be four million of us. | ||
| They better have a bunch. | ||
| They better have a bunch of people because this is a boiling... | ||
| Here's a true work of authority. | ||
| The mayor of D.C. has no military authority, not over the National Guard or anything. | ||
| All she has is D.C. police. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| D.C. police, they will step aside. | ||
| There's too many of them. | ||
| So, this doesn't look good in hindsight. | ||
| Welly, welly, welly, welly. | ||
| These sort of conversations certainly seem to be pre... | ||
| What would you call that? | ||
| What's the right word I'm looking for? | ||
| Premeditated? | ||
| Is that a way to go? | ||
| I mean, it's very much like, oh, you know, like... | ||
| If you accept the idea that, like, oh, they kind of are planning on fucking storming the Capitol, you'd kind of be like, oh, yeah, this is the kind of conversation you'd expect to hear before that. | ||
| Before you storm the Capitol! | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Hey, look, hey, we don't want any trouble, but if there's trouble, there's four million of us and the cops are on our side, so what the fuck? | ||
| If the Capitol was the Constitution, these assholes are the preamble. | ||
| Yeah, preamble was probably... | ||
| One of the words I was trying to look for, and I just couldn't figure out a way to make it work grammatically. | ||
| So there's these Capitol Police. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And there's not enough of them, man. | ||
| There's just not enough. | ||
| There's not enough to stop Dave. | ||
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Hey, Dale, how many policemen would you say there are in D.C.? | |
| I'm just going to throw out a number. | ||
| Thousand? | ||
| Yeah, you know, listen, Jefferson Parish, Jefferson Parish, we have... | ||
| We have 1,500 officers, not just officers, people who work in the desk and detectives and everything, and that's for a population of a half a million people. | ||
| I don't necessarily know if they even have 1,000 in D.C. Here's my point. | ||
| Do they have enough to push back? | ||
| What if 500,000 people said they'd had enough? | ||
| What if just 10%? | ||
| What if 200,000 people said they had enough and decided they were going to storm the Capitol? | ||
| I don't know if they're going to. | ||
| I don't know if they're going to. | ||
| What if that were to happen, folks? | ||
| We don't have any idea what might break loose here. | ||
| Now, none of us want violence. | ||
| None of us are advocating violence. | ||
| But the truth of the matter is, there's violence all around us. | ||
| The Bible says that the kingdom of God suffers violence from the days of John the Baptist until now. | ||
| The kingdom of God has suffered violence, and violent men have taken it by force. | ||
| See, listen, it's not the violence, it's the force. | ||
| They're forcing us to take vaccinations. | ||
| They're forcing us to close our shops. | ||
| They're forcing us to not travel. | ||
| They're forcing us to not go visit our parents in nursing homes. | ||
| Do you understand this? | ||
| It's the same argumentation style that you hear from Alex. | ||
| Like, we don't want trouble. | ||
| We don't want any kind of violence. | ||
| But all violence that could be seen as offensive is secretly defensive because they want to give me a vaccine. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's not great to hear this from someone who's presumably a religious leader. | ||
| I would argue that spreading a disease is violence, Dan. | ||
| Offensive violence. | ||
| There's an interesting argument you could make with that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it seems like they are doing it. | ||
| I would actually maybe... | ||
| Yeah, you'd want to probably have some qualification for negligence. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Or something. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Unless you're spitting on people. | ||
| Well, there's that. | ||
| Then you're out of line. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| If you're aware that wearing a mask can save somebody else's life... | ||
| And you're like, I'm never wearing a mask. | ||
| You have now committed violence. | ||
| Yes, but how do you prove that the person actually believes- Even under your own libertarian nonsense? | ||
| Yeah, fuck off. | ||
| But you would have to then prove that the person is aware that the masks help. | ||
| They believe that and are choosing to not do it. | ||
| Because the denial could be strong. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| I don't know if I care about denial. | ||
| You may not. | ||
| The court might, though. | ||
| The court might, but it's kind of like a math problem. | ||
| Like, I don't care if you think that math doesn't work. | ||
| It still does. | ||
| So you have to live by math. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| So they spent some more time on this bus. | ||
| The reception gets bad. | ||
| And then it goes to the guy in the studio. | ||
| And when I say studio, I mean his office. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| And he's another preacher, and he just has some people pray and stuff, and I don't care. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Then, later, they arrive at the Capitol. | ||
| There's at least one picture I saw that was of someone in a Pass the Salt shirt. | ||
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Sure, sure. | |
| So they were around. | ||
| All right. | ||
| The D-heads is what I'm calling somebody who wears a pass-the-assault shirt. | ||
| Hey, would you pass the salt? | ||
| So we get to the next day now, the 7th. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Dave comes on his show, and there's a little bit of reflection going on. | ||
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We are over the target. | |
| And as Alex Jones said about 25 years ago, it's an info war. | ||
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It's an information war. | |
| And boys and girls, we are a dead center target in this information war. | ||
| Not just us. | ||
| I'm not trying to... | ||
| You know, I'm just a fly on the butt of an elephant. | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| But I'm going to tell you something. | ||
| We are over the target like we've never been. | ||
| So he's just using Alex's language. | ||
| He's directly referencing Alex. | ||
| This dude's just a fucking info warrior. | ||
| Man, I don't want to be killed by a bunch of cowards like this. | ||
| I don't like the idea that this extremist political anti-communist Ideology is being so successfully marketed under the veil of religion. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, I really, really think that that's terrifying. | ||
| I would rather be killed in a fight with ISIS, because ISIS is at least like, I want to kill you, you know? | ||
| None of this wishy-washy cowardice from the conservatives, just like, ugh! | ||
| I don't want any violence, but I'm gonna have to kill you guys. | ||
| And then when violence does happen, whoa, whoa, whoa, guys. | ||
| We didn't ever want... | ||
| At least ISIS is like, I'm gonna kill you. | ||
| There is a... | ||
| You know, terrorist groups generally do take responsibility for their actions. | ||
| For shit they didn't even do sometimes! | ||
| Well, interestingly, Dave has a very similar take on things after the fact that his hero, Alex Jones, does. | ||
| Strange. | ||
| Part of the information war that's going on and here's going to be your greatest battle and my greatest battle is you're going to have to convince the people that you come in contact with that what happened yesterday in Washington, D.C. wasn't this. | ||
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This wasn't what happened. | |
| The storming of the Capitol building. | ||
| The infiltration of Antifa, BLM, as part of that infiltration. | ||
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Yes, Patriots did break through. | |
| They did break through and get into the Capitol building. | ||
| Yes, but can I tell you something? | ||
| Are you listening to me? | ||
| They let us. | ||
| Folks, listen to me. | ||
| They let us break through. | ||
| They let the Patriots break through and then embedded BLM in the group. | ||
| And all the wicked, crazy stuff that happened inside that Capitol building, that was not done by patriots, folks. | ||
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That was not done. | |
| I love the idea that he's saying on the 7th, it gets suspicious that the cops let them through, when the morning of... | ||
| The cops are going to let us through! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's very strange. | ||
| It implies a real change of perspective about, oh, this actually happened. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| I just see that so universally with these folks that you look in on. | ||
| We've got to find a way to not take responsibility for whoever shit on that desk. | ||
| If anybody comes at me with, like, listen to any conservative in the media now, it's just, no. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Don't even. | ||
| I can't engage with it. | ||
| This was the moment where it's like, no matter what you do, you caused this, and then you disavowed it, so go fuck yourself. | ||
| You're a coward. | ||
| A complete coward. | ||
| You're worse than ISIS! | ||
| It's been quite a ride for you in comparing things to ISIS. | ||
| I'm enjoying it. | ||
| They were as evil as ISIS for a while. | ||
| It was equivalent. | ||
| Now they're worse! | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, it's bad. | ||
| I think that one of the things that I found when I was looking at this was, first of all, I find Dave Daubenmire incredibly boring. | ||
| Oh, he's bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, I don't know, maybe it's been a long time since I've looked at any of his actual shows or anything. | ||
| It just struck me as like, you're just taking notes from Infowars shows and preaching with it. | ||
| You're just doing that. | ||
| It's stupid. | ||
| It's almost like... | ||
| The idea of covering his show actually feels kind of like drinking backwash. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm not interested. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he was there. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And... | ||
| This is an interesting set of circumstances, an interesting set of behaviors. | ||
| The, like, hey, Trump is telling us all to get on the field, you know, like, well, I mean, the three jurisdictions thing, that's just good, clean fun. | ||
| That's fantastic. | ||
| That's fantastic. | ||
| They're literally talking about the possibility of storming the Capitol and how the police will stand down. | ||
| There's not enough of them. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And then the next day, there's a conspiracy afoot. | ||
| It's somebody else's fault! | ||
| It's somebody else's fault! | ||
| They're trying to set us up! | ||
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Nope! | |
| The police let us in, and when they let us in, they embedded Antifa and Black Lives Matter in there. | ||
| Why is everybody blaming us for doing this? | ||
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We're so strong, but we're the victim. | |
| It's really dumb. | ||
| Bunch of fucking cowards. | ||
| It's very dumb. | ||
| And perhaps so was this. | ||
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That's what I'm saying. | |
| I want a higher quality of criminal. | ||
| I think I've said that before. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It's just that whole thing of just like, really? | ||
| This is who we're up against? | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| This is the shittiest fascism I've ever seen. | ||
| Yeah, I bet all of them have been disappointing in the moment. | ||
| Yeah, well, that's probably true. | ||
| I bet over time they take on more of a serious character. | ||
| Yeah, I imagine if I went back and watched a... | ||
| Serious documentary about Mussolini. | ||
| They'd be like, look at this fucking idiot. | ||
| What are we talking about with this guy? | ||
| How did he take over? | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| Anyway, Jordan, I apologize that we don't have a full episode for today. | ||
| Absolutely, this is a bottle episode. | ||
| Battlestar Galactica is over. | ||
| It's like that Breaking Bad episode with the fly. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| But the fly is a coach. | ||
| The fly is just Dave Dobbin by her whispering, like, hey, man, it's gonna happen. | ||
| Would you pass the salt? | ||
| It's just a fly asking for salt. | ||
| All right, well, we'll be back on Wednesday with a full-on Alex Jones episode. | ||
| But until then, Jordan, we have a website. | ||
| We do have a website. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yep, we're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledgefight and at GoToBetJordan. | ||
| We're also on Facebook. | ||
| We are on Facebook. | ||
| If you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work. | ||
| Yeah, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
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| I'm the Juiciest Ice Cube. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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