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Jan. 22, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
01:26:58
#523: January 18-19, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan check out the last couple days of Trump's time in office on the Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex may or may not finally do his second fake "last show ever" in the past three months.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
17:08
d
dan friesen
41:49
j
jordan holmes
19:26
Appearances
j
jason jones
01:36
n
nick fuentes
01:39
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
I need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your room.
unidentified
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
unidentified
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk just a touch about Alex Jones.
Just like a sprinkling to taste.
jordan holmes
I would say a smidge, even.
I would go so far as to say a smidge.
dan friesen
Like pepper in a recipe.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A sprinkle or perhaps a toss.
dan friesen
A dusting of Alex.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
Just a hair.
dan friesen
How are you doing, Jordan?
jordan holmes
Dan?
dan friesen
I'm subverting the form.
jordan holmes
I like it.
I like it.
How are you doing?
unidentified
Good.
jordan holmes
I have a question for you.
dan friesen
What's that?
jordan holmes
What is your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan, is I, first of all, I accept this already.
Don't fucking, I don't care.
Don't point a finger at me.
jordan holmes
This is preemptive defensiveness, Dan.
We've talked about this.
dan friesen
It is.
I'm a sucker for, like, Lovecraft-themed horror video games.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Like, storytelling, that sort of...
Eternal Darkness is one of my favorite video games of all time.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
It's great.
jordan holmes
Whenever we played Mansions of Madness together, you get really into it.
It's fantastic.
dan friesen
I insist on holding the iPad so I can read the story.
jordan holmes
You love reading it to us.
Yeah, you've got the whole thing.
dan friesen
Doing the voice of the Lovecraftian narrator.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
I love it.
And so I was looking around for a cheap game.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Bright spots have just become video game reviews.
jordan holmes
I mean, basically.
At this point, yeah.
dan friesen
And I was looking for something in like $5 range as I was trying to expand my horizons.
And I saw one called Lovecraft's Untold Stories.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And I'm like, well, I'm a mark.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I'm buying this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
So I bought it.
jordan holmes
I'll send you $1,000 in the hopes of getting $5,000 in return.
dan friesen
If the letter is not from a Nigerian prince, but it's from someone in Innsmouth, then maybe I'm writing back.
jordan holmes
Miskatonic University would like a donation of your generous service.
dan friesen
No, I'm an alum.
I got it, and I was really enjoying it.
And the first level of it was pretty fun.
And then it got...
Absurdly hard in the second level.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
It got, like, unfair levels of hard.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I actually looked into it because I was like, this can't be right.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And a bunch of the reviews online were all just like, this game is...
jordan holmes
This game gets unfairly hard at the second level!
unidentified
It was just like, this is not balanced.
dan friesen
And it's true.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it was also, like, not impossible.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
It was just really hard.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And I kind of, I was playing around with it a little bit, and here's the bright spot, was that I didn't back down to the difficulty.
jordan holmes
Nice.
dan friesen
I kept trying, and I learned, and I realized, like, this is kind of how it used to be with video games.
jordan holmes
Oh, totally.
dan friesen
Like, if you were playing Mega Man 2, that was fucking hard.
jordan holmes
It was impossible to do!
It was so hard!
dan friesen
Yeah.
It has that sort of difficulty.
It's just like...
It's really...
It's fun.
I enjoy it.
Anyway, I did beat the second level.
jordan holmes
Love it.
Love it.
Congratulations.
dan friesen
I felt like it was an actual achievement, which is something that I have not felt a ton in video games.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It's been a while.
dan friesen
A lot of these open world games that I enjoy are like, yeah, you get things done and maybe you beat a castle or a monastery in Assassin's Creed.
jordan holmes
Difficult.
dan friesen
It can be, yeah.
jordan holmes
But it's not hard.
dan friesen
It doesn't feel like, wow, I did that.
That second level, I fucking did that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Achievement.
jordan holmes
That's so cool.
dan friesen
How about you?
jordan holmes
My bright spot, Dan, may sound counterintuitive, but I mean this wholeheartedly as a bright spot.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
My bright spot is failure.
unidentified
Oh.
jordan holmes
I, as you know...
dan friesen
In a certain way, so was mine.
jordan holmes
Well, I think that is kind of the...
No, I think we share this.
As you know, I started trying to stream a little bit of video games on Twitch, and it has gone disastrous.
dan friesen
People have asked what your channel is.
I don't know if you gave the address.
jordan holmes
Oh, I haven't.
It's TwitchTVJBHolmes3209.
dan friesen
Okay.
That was the important thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
To find it.
jordan holmes
Sure, well, there's that.
I appreciate that not many people have found it, because it has gone disastrously every time.
The audio is...
dan friesen
It's a learning thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and it's really fascinating because it's fun to teach myself new stuff at 33. Like, I've never touched the software on this before.
I've never done all that stuff.
It's fun to learn all the things that I'm terrible at and require new equipment for and all that stuff.
And it reminded me of when I started doing stand-up of just like...
I failed for two years straight.
And as I'm doing this, I was so frustrated because I couldn't figure it out properly, and I felt like I was disappointing the people who actually came to see it, and I was really grateful to them, and I wanted to do a good job for them, and I failed miserably.
And then I remembered, I can fail so hard.
For so long.
And then eventually I got good at it to the point where I think I can do the same thing here.
dan friesen
I mean, we failed quite a while doing this podcast.
jordan holmes
Totally, totally.
Our streams did not always go...
dan friesen
And now I think maybe you're getting a greater appreciation for why I have such a difficult time with being like, yeah, let's get back to doing live streams.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I don't want...
I have so many headaches.
jordan holmes
I get it.
dan friesen
But I wish you luck with that.
I know you'll get it figured out and it'll be great.
People will have fun watching the streams.
jordan holmes
I'm just excited because it also...
It also means that I'm trying new things.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, and you can't expect to just be good out of the gate at new things.
dan friesen
No, that's true.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's been really good and humbling, and I've appreciated it a lot.
dan friesen
This is your second level of Lovecraft's Untold Stories.
Exactly what it is.
Challenging, maybe unfair.
jordan holmes
That's a little unfairly hard.
33-year-old people anymore aren't supposed to be able to use computers.
I think that's the rule.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today...
jordan holmes
Yes, sir.
dan friesen
We have an unexpected twist.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Alex is out of studio.
dan friesen
No.
alex jones
Oh.
dan friesen
We, on our last episode, on Wednesday, I had said that today we were going to be listening to the end of Trump's presidency and inauguration day on Alex's show, and I cannot deliver that.
And I'll explain why.
First reason.
Alex's fake last episode thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Carried over into this episode.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
No, because you knew that.
unidentified
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
On our last episode, we talked about the 17th.
Alex was saying, tomorrow will be my fake last episode.
jordan holmes
No, of course.
I knew it was used.
dan friesen
And so that was something that I couldn't not follow the thread of.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
Then it turned out that on Inauguration Day, it was an all-day affair.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So that's going to have to be on Monday.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
We're going to be covering January 20th on Monday.
Today, we're going to be talking about the 18th and the 19th, 2021, Blackjack.
jordan holmes
Blackjack, baby!
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
End of show.
dan friesen
No, baby.
All right.
And yeah, so we'll get to the inauguration on Monday.
I just need a bit more time to prepare that, because it's a lot of stuff to go through, a lot of disappointment.
jordan holmes
You don't have to listen to 12 hours.
dan friesen
Well, I don't have to listen to all of it.
Harrison Smith's hosting, I'm sure, a good bit of it.
jordan holmes
The Capitol has unfallen.
dan friesen
Oh no!
The Capitol is back in the arms of the globalists.
alex jones
Shit!
dan friesen
So, before we get down to business on today's episode, though, where we witness the last...
Proper shows.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Even though there's two of them.
Yeah, the 18th and the 19th.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
The last days when Trump could do something weird.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
While Alex is on air.
Before we get down to that, though, let's take a moment to say thank you to some folks who signed up and are supporting the show.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Nathan S. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Nathan!
dan friesen
Next, disgruntled honeybee.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
Disgruntled Honey Bee.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Dave and Doors Donation Drive.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a reference to my book.
Dave and Doors Donation Drive.
Oh, that's cute.
dan friesen
Thank you.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Nicholas L. That's N-I-K-O-L-A-U-S.
For my money, probably the best spelling of Nicholas.
Nicholas.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Nicholas.
dan friesen
Next, Lee Green.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Lee Green.
dan friesen
Next, Kate K. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Kate.
dan friesen
Next, Thomas B. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thank you very much, Tommy B. And 1-800-NW-HOGS.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, 1-800-NW-HOGS.
dan friesen
And finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on Elevated Level.
We appreciate that very much.
So first, Derek, and that's spelled D-A-R-R-I-C-K.
My money, the second best way to spell Derek.
jordan holmes
That's pretty great.
dan friesen
It's up there.
Maybe it's the best.
unidentified
It's pretty up there.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
And the Waffle Witch.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
We gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimps so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare...
Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Derek, and thank you so much to the Waffle Witch.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.
dan friesen
You know, a way you can blow people's minds is waffles.
jordan holmes
Yes, that's true.
dan friesen
People don't realize how easy they are to make.
jordan holmes
They're delicious, too.
dan friesen
And they're so cheap.
Let me make a waffle iron.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Five bucks, probably.
jordan holmes
Also, Waffle Witch?
Should be in a Miyazaki movie, if not already, and I would pay a lot to see it.
dan friesen
I might have to fight the Waffle Witch and Lovercraft's untold stories.
That's level four.
Super unfair.
So, Jordan, here's an out-of-context drop from today's show.
alex jones
I'm at war with these people, not just on air.
I'm constantly fighting them, and I'm not special.
I'm just not dead inside.
unidentified
I will never let you hit Satan at me.
alex jones
Bah, bah, bah, bah.
jordan holmes
He always sounds exactly like the people that he says are demons.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I just, you know, I don't know.
It's hard to take someone seriously when they're like, I'm fighting the demons all the time.
jordan holmes
All the time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All the time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Non-stop.
dan friesen
A little silly.
jordan holmes
Non-stop.
My wife gets to go play tennis with her instructor, and I'm out here fighting demons all the time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's brutal.
dan friesen
It's not fair.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we start on the 18th, and of course, on the 17th, Alex had decided he was going to do his last show.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Which he, again, already did last November.
jordan holmes
Right.
This is between his third and fifth last show.
Somewhere in that range.
dan friesen
He decided on Saturday that he was going to do the last broadcast.
As he was in the middle of a show.
So he and Mike Adams did a very dramatic show.
jordan holmes
I assume Mike Adams can never come back on.
He was on the last broadcast.
dan friesen
I mean, for good taste's sake, he can't.
jordan holmes
He already gave his farewell address.
dan friesen
So on that Saturday, Alex got distracted by Robert Barnes, the lawyer extraordinaire, coming in to yell about QAnon.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
And then Alex realized, like, I can't do it today.
I'm going to do it tomorrow.
So on Sunday, he came in, did not do it.
Decided to point the finger at the Boogaloo Boys for the Capitol storming.
jordan holmes
We gotta do something.
dan friesen
And then he's like, I can't handle it.
I'll do it tomorrow.
So, the 18th, Monday, is in theory supposed to be the last show ever.
The final broadcast, great.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're doing it.
dan friesen
Here's where we start.
alex jones
New Jersey, where they tried to bankrupt that big, successful gym.
And they were starting to win in court, so the state just seized $150,000 every dime the company had to pay payroll and to pay for the bill on the building and to pay for the insurance.
They barely had enough money to stay open, and now they're going to have to close.
But they're starting to get cash donations.
And all they've got to do is call themselves a church or BLM, then they'll be protected under the First Amendment.
And all of us should say, we're part of the Church of Freedom.
In fact, I really think I'm gonna incorporate a church.
All I gotta do is believe in freedom and a pro-human future and you can be part of it.
dan friesen
Okay, that was inevitable.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, it was about time.
Honestly, this has taken too long to go full cult.
dan friesen
Basically.
Oh, yeah, Freedom Church.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why not?
No, I've literally shit all over the Satanists for not having a church and they shouldn't have the protections of the First Amendment, but...
dan friesen
He really screwed up not doing this when Trump was in office.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Because Trump wasn't going to prosecute churches for 501c3 violations, but that might...
Change.
That might go back now to where you can't do political organizing in the case of a church.
jordan holmes
I very much doubt it.
dan friesen
So yeah, Alex, I mean, he just doesn't want to pay taxes.
That's basically the game here.
And yeah, finally getting around to it.
I'm going to make a church.
jordan holmes
I don't know why Wesley Snipes never did the Church of Blade.
Because I would have joined the Church of Blade.
dan friesen
Sure.
I don't know how Alex isn't already a church.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
He constantly talks about God and, like, this show is a deeply religious thing where he thinks he's fighting demons all day.
I don't know.
It's either science fiction or religion.
One of the two.
jordan holmes
Both of which could be a church.
dan friesen
Because it ain't news and it ain't politics.
jordan holmes
Hey, if Elrond can do it.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, I don't know if you know this, but America is dead.
jordan holmes
Fair.
dan friesen
It didn't die.
On the inauguration.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's good.
dan friesen
And that's only because Alex misspeed.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
You can definitely put on the tombstone the United States of America born July 4th, 1776.
jordan holmes
Not true.
alex jones
Died of treason.
Died of infiltration.
Died of Satanism.
January 21st.
The year 2020.
dan friesen
Whoops.
Still writing July on my checks.
unidentified
Wow!
jordan holmes
Still writing July on those checks.
dan friesen
Man, that's...
So I guess America's been dead for a year.
And see, this is why you gotta double check before you put the death date on the tombstone.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
Because that's in rock.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
America died before Bernie had to drop out of the race.
We couldn't even get a real socialist to kill America.
dan friesen
I know that you were taking issue with him saying America was born July 4th, 1776.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I don't want to parse that right now.
jordan holmes
I have no interest in parsing that ever.
dan friesen
What I do want to talk about is that this seems to imply that Alex doesn't believe that life begins at conception.
unidentified
It seems to me that this is an indication that...
dan friesen
Birth is when life begins.
jordan holmes
If you're pro-nation, you're pro-choice.
I think that's the reality.
dan friesen
Or else you have to celebrate the Independence Day the day when someone came up with the idea to have a country.
jordan holmes
1617, somebody was like, man, I think we can do it.
Or maybe a thousand years before that, Eric the Red is out here.
Man, I think these states should be united.
dan friesen
Or just even the day that the beginning of the protesting for...
Sure.
It's the crown.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Began in the colonies.
Then, I don't know.
Anyway, I just thought that was kind of funny.
jordan holmes
America wasn't born when it became a twinkle in the eye of some revolutionary.
dan friesen
I might have been fairly bored by Alex at the beginning of this episode.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
So I was having thoughts like that.
jordan holmes
Sure, you're having fun thoughts.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex decides to talk about the One Ring.
jordan holmes
That's good.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The globalists, apparently, they all want power and the rings that Sauron makes give power to the ten kings with the ten rings.
jordan holmes
Nine rings.
dan friesen
Whatever, but there's one to rule them.
So that's the ten.
jordan holmes
Well, yes, but there's three for the elven lords.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Seven for the dwarf lords.
I understand.
Okay.
dan friesen
Alex gives himself chills talking about this.
alex jones
And so the globalist AI system is the enemy that is parasitically sucking the U.S. dry.
And there's only a competition with globalists about who gets the AI takeover.
Will it be China's AI or the US AI?
But it's Satan's plan that it's really all the same AI.
The Lord of the Rings allegory.
Ten rings given to ten kings of the earth who above all seek power.
It's a Christian allegory.
Tolkien said this about what he experienced.
jordan holmes
He specifically said it was not.
alex jones
A professor at the highest levels of the insider knowledge.
jordan holmes
Went out of his way.
alex jones
Ten rings are given to ten kings for power, but...
When they take the power, they actually become enslaved.
And there's one secret ring that controls them all.
That's Satan.
jordan holmes
Not secret.
alex jones
That's the spiritual element.
So, it's got chills.
jordan holmes
I believe it's nine rings given to mortal men.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Doomed to die.
Literally in the poem.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, you make a good point about Tolkien really resisting allegory as well.
jordan holmes
Went hard on it.
People were like, it's about the nuclear bomb, right?
And he was like, oh, that's interesting.
No.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
He did say that it was a religious story.
You know, it was a Christian story.
Sure.
Unintentionally at first, and then intentionally upon reflection.
jordan holmes
Who's Jesus' hobbit friends?
Who's Jesus' Pippin?
dan friesen
Pippin?
That would be Bartholomew.
jordan holmes
I think that's a good answer.
dan friesen
Yeah, I just, I love it anytime Alex is like talking and he impresses himself.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or he freaks himself out.
unidentified
Ooh, got chills.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
Ooh.
I nailed that.
I absolutely got that one perfect.
unidentified
The one ring?
dan friesen
Satan.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Solved that problem.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex is still going on about how there's, in the riot at the Capitol, before the storming of January 6th, there were agents.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Right?
Everybody who might be inconvenient for him, probably an agent.
jordan holmes
That's Aragorn.
dan friesen
But he can tell.
Alex can tell.
He has a special sense for this.
alex jones
I mean, you've got FBI agents in there running this damn thing.
God, we're in so much trouble.
And again, I'm not saying those guys are the agents, you know, the guys with the Black Lives Matter and the Antifa shirts.
It's the video you showed later of the people in full camo and full mask that are...
Definitely got squared away there, and I can just tell.
You learn things.
Look at him instantly.
You know what's going on.
dan friesen
This just makes me think of the time that we spent listening to the immediate aftermath of the Boston bombing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
dan friesen
Whenever Alex was like, I can tell who everybody is just by looking at them.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I can see the way they're standing, and I know this guy's hostage rescue team all over.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You don't know shit.
jordan holmes
I think Alex proves that the blood of Newman-Yor has grown thin.
dan friesen
Come on, man.
jordan holmes
All right.
How many more do I got?
dan friesen
I think you got way more, but I don't know how much patience I got.
jordan holmes
You don't want any more?
Blackjack!
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I mean, like, the people that he's talking about, I think, I don't know what the video he's referring to, but I assume, based on the descriptions, probably the Oath Keeper folks who were there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it has to.
dan friesen
But now, it would be as good a time as any to talk about how Joe Biggs, former InfoWars employee, Rambo Joe Biggs.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He going to prison.
jordan holmes
Yeah, hilarious.
dan friesen
He's going to prison hard.
jordan holmes
For a while.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Unless he flips on a lot of more important people.
dan friesen
And I don't even know if that's going to do much.
jordan holmes
I doubt it.
dan friesen
Who's more important than him?
He's like second in command of the Proud Boys.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that one's pretty easy to pick out.
I don't know.
I mean, I assume he can flip on some congressmen.
On account of them committing the crimes.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know what he knows or what he's up to, but it's interesting to see this path that he's gone from.
Ding-dong, working at InfoWars, trying to get Pizzagate going.
unidentified
To the guy who gets Ted Cruz to finally go to prison.
dan friesen
It's an interesting path.
Also, just before we got on air here today, on air, what the fuck am I talking about?
jordan holmes
No idea.
dan friesen
Before we got on these mics, there was a news story that was breaking about William Watson, who's a guy who had a big beard, was pictured at the Capitol along with Q Shaman.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And a lot of the headlines were really stressing that he went to the Capitol because Alex told him to.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I think people are making more out of that than they should.
jordan holmes
I don't think you can do much with that.
dan friesen
No, I mean like, but I saw some people tweeting things to the effect of like Alex ordered him to go.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And even the Raw Story article about it, the phrasing of it was a little bit iffy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because as far as I can tell from the actual information, he just said that he knew that there was a rally at the Capitol because Alex had said meet there at one.
Right.
You've got to assume, is Alex wanting people to go to the stage that he was conceivably going to be having a rally at?
jordan holmes
It would be nice, and we've referenced this before, it would be nice if before people ran with stories, they would at least send you an email.
But I mean, I...
Imagine that the reason they don't is because you would be like, hey, could you add more nuance?
And they'd be like, more nuance means fewer clicks, so we're not going to talk to Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I could even be of much help with this, but I wish people would recognize that the more you put Alex in the crosshairs for this, when it's something like...
What you see in those stories about this guy, the more it works in Alex's favor.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
They're trying to set me up for this!
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And, yeah, you shouldn't do things like that.
They play into his...
jordan holmes
No, you wind up not just letting him off the hook, but doing a...
I would call it pulling a Rogan, where you accidentally give him more credibility than he, by any means, deserves.
dan friesen
Yeah, you also write him a new narrative.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, really, this is like...
Son of Sam kind of stuff where it's like, oh, you can't blame the dog.
You know what I'm saying?
Or was that him?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm pretty sure the dog who was in...
Yeah, Satan and stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
Alex is just Satan for this guy.
dan friesen
No, the ring is Satan.
jordan holmes
Ah, that's fair.
dan friesen
So I hated the beginning of this show.
It was very boring.
There was nothing going on.
And thankfully, about an hour in, hour and ten in, Alex condenses what he's been talking about for the last hour.
unidentified
Okay, good.
alex jones
The whole last hour could have been condensed into two minutes.
It's confirmed that the deep state ran the Boogaloo Boys via the Southern Poverty Law Center, ADL, and the FBI.
jordan holmes
No!
alex jones
You're back!
They've all bragged about it with Antifa.
They've been protected.
When they were arrested, they were released.
dan friesen
It's been confirmed, apparently.
That is a fair condensing of most of what he spent all of his time talking about.
But he didn't prove any of this.
He hasn't confirmed any of it.
He just believes that saying something repeatedly is the same thing as confirming it.
jordan holmes
Hey, how about this?
How about, fuck your William Watson article, and instead, here's your article.
Alex doesn't get to do this.
And all you do is go through what he did on the 6th and how he lied about it immediately and how he's lying about it now and how we don't get to let this go.
He doesn't get to go on and talk about how there's going to be problems and everybody's going to have their balls caught off.
He has to say, I lied to you and I was full of shit and everybody should write an article about that.
dan friesen
And also, there's an article in the lead mentions that he believes he's constantly fighting demons.
jordan holmes
And he believes he's constantly fighting demons.
dan friesen
Yes.
So you had the FBI, and through the Southern Poverty Law Center and the ADL, they were running the Boogaloo Boys to do all this and get the storming going.
jordan holmes
Weird, they were buddies.
dan friesen
And then you had QAnon people who were patsies, apparently.
They were just there to be a spectacle.
alex jones
And we walked right into a trap.
They did stand down.
They ushered the Q people, who were not violent, in to be killed and in to be arrested as sacrificial dummies, just like in Spies Like Us.
A great comedy, but very accurate.
You're like, oh, we're going to accelerate you guys to be frontline spies.
You did that.
Really, with like two weeks training.
Yeah.
And they put them in as decoys.
Of course, they end up doing a better job than the actual spies, which is how it actually works.
Because real people get real stuff done, not you mentally ill, sicko freaks that have...
Asperger's or whatever.
Satanic Asperger's.
I don't mean Asperger's or Satanic.
I mean a form of it that's like Satanic.
It's disgusting.
dan friesen
That was weird.
jordan holmes
So then you're saying that they did it.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
He's saying that the real people at the Patriots did everything.
dan friesen
I think he watched Spies Like Us recently.
I think maybe his kids are coming to such an age that you've got to get into some of those classic comedies.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So I think one of the things that I'm noticing about Alex around this time is that it's pretty much just...
It's very doom-filled.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
It's very much...
The country is no more?
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, in his cosmology, the devil has taken over the United States, so you would expect that kind of thing.
dan friesen
Yeah, but you would expect it to be in that language.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
The devil is in charge.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, he's been yelling about it for a long time.
dan friesen
Yeah, but instead, it kind of comes in this form, and it's like, this is just gonna incite people to impotent violence.
alex jones
We're going to come back and talk more about what you're witnessing there in our former capital, now under globalist control.
We are now officially occupied.
Joe Biden will be installed in about 46 hours as the first dictator of the United States, okay?
And then we'll all be shutting down after that.
dan friesen
Shouldn't he think FDR was the first dictator of the United States?
jordan holmes
I managed to avoid a spit take.
dan friesen
Yeah, I appreciate that.
jordan holmes
That was gonna go straight at you.
dan friesen
Yeah, that doesn't even fit with his own ideas.
jordan holmes
No, no.
dan friesen
But D.C.'s the former capital.
We're now under complete occupation.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Biden is a dictator.
Naturally.
It's all like, okay, well, what has your show for 25 fucking years suggested people do when those circumstances are achieved?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, I think you know.
Yeah.
So, there's a couple days left for Trump to be in office.
jordan holmes
He's got criminals to say you can go free.
dan friesen
Well, actually, Alex has a prediction about that.
jordan holmes
Oh, strange.
alex jones
And I think with this type of action, Trump is going to pardon Julian Assange tomorrow.
I'm predicting that right now.
My gut tells me that Trump's good and that Trump at the final crucible did the right thing.
dan friesen
Ooh, snake eyes came up just short on that prediction.
jordan holmes
Headline, you don't get to do this!
dan friesen
Alex probably very disappointed about that.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Why did he think that would happen?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Probably because it's what his audience wants to hear.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
So, Alex is getting...
We heard on that Sunday show, he's getting back into the migrant caravan fear-based narratives.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
And one of the things that I've noticed about him is he has...
Absolute inability to estimate sizes of groups.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He will say, like, 100,000 people is 10 million.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You ever do those, how many gumballs in this jar?
He guesses a million every time.
dan friesen
Or seven.
Yeah.
He's not good at estimating.
So he's saying, he's looking at a picture of, like, a caravan of migrants, and he's just like, oh, that's so many more people.
alex jones
And if you don't admit it's the end of America, it will be.
By admitting we're under attack, by admitting this is globalist, by admitting that they've collapsed the third world with the COVID lockdowns, and now the UN has set up giant refugee centers to make the hundreds of thousands that caravaned here a few years ago that Trump stopped look like insignificant.
Let's go ahead for radio listeners, TV viewers can see this, roll that little newscast about the 7,000.
Folks, that isn't 7,000.
Let me give you a newsflash.
It's $50,000.
I've seen the footage.
And that's just the first group the U.N. trains.
They've got debit cards paid for by the State Department.
Trump cut off the money, but now they do it directly from Soros.
And I'm going to go to your phone calls, but that's what's happening.
dan friesen
Prove it.
Prove any of that shit.
Anyway, look, I noticed this, and I hate it.
It sucks.
But I think that these sorts of stories...
Really get under Alex's skin more than a lot of other ones, because he gets really mad for a large chunk of this episode.
jordan holmes
Al, the border's close to his home, and he's a racist.
The end.
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's really, really, like, just down, and he freaks out quite a bit.
And that does get...
jordan holmes
I might have to see two more Muslims than I'm used to!
dan friesen
At the pool supply shop.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he addresses the idea that this was going to be his last show, and then it just goes downhill from there.
jordan holmes
Okay, all right.
alex jones
All right, I'm going to go to break, and then I promise for at least four segments, three segments, I'm going to go write the calls.
I'm going to go to Michael, Steve, John, Christian, Houston, Scott, Preston, Izzy, Richard, and others.
And listen, I want to explain something here to everybody.
Okay.
If I seem really irritable and mad, it's not with the crew.
I'm just done with all this.
And I meant to come here today and say this is my last broadcast.
And by that, I'm going to keep doing shows.
But, I mean, you understand, folks.
I believe they're going to shut everything down in the next few months.
They're going to blow up federal buildings.
They're going to put poison in water supplies.
I mean, it's over.
I mean, it's over.
You understand?
Your only shot you've got is realizing that we're screwed.
Your candy-ass church isn't gonna do it.
Your candy-ass boss isn't gonna do it.
We're a trained group of monkeys in this country.
We're not what Americans used to be.
We're not rugged individualists.
We don't stand up for the Bill of Rights and Constitution.
We're a joke, okay?
dan friesen
He's in a bad mood.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That bad mood has started after covering this story about the migrants.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it turns pretty fucking extreme.
I mean, he's talking about blowing up federal buildings, poisoning the water supply, and like...
jordan holmes
I don't think even Stone Cold called churches candy asses.
dan friesen
No, and it was The Rock who'd call people candy asses.
jordan holmes
Oh, I apologize.
I apologize for not getting famous Republican The Rock.
dan friesen
He did speak at the RNC.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Alex goes from there, how they're gonna do all this shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're all just gonna let The Rock get away with that, right?
Everybody's just agreed, like, eh, don't worry about it.
Sure, The Rock endorsed all of the horrifying things, but we'll still let him be a movie star.
dan friesen
I mean...
Sure.
I don't know what his politics are anymore.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I don't know how...
Look, Vince McMahon is a lunatic.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
That is true.
dan friesen
That's all...
I don't know.
I'm not going to sit here and defend The Rock, but I'm also not going to say that I know.
jordan holmes
I'm not going to...
dan friesen
He did speak at the RNC, but that was also 20 years ago.
jordan holmes
Eh, that's fair.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex gets deeper into Doom fantasies.
alex jones
I mean, if we ever beat this thing, it'll be in the history.
Of like, these people were Hitler.
I mean, this is unbelievable.
It's not like, oh, we're getting there, it's bad, things are out of control.
It's, they've just begun.
They're going to take your pension funds, they're going to bankrupt, they're going to cut the power off, the oil off, they're going to open the borders.
It's over, man.
It's over.
It's all gone.
It's all over.
They're going to activate the Boogaloos, FBI, ADL, terror forces.
They're going to start blowing everything up.
Then they're going to come arrest all the patriots.
The idiots will cheer it.
jordan holmes
I wish.
alex jones
Enjoy!
All your games.
In fact, America is rotting and deserves it.
Now, the Satanists aren't good.
They're not God.
God just lets them have their way now.
So all your games are over.
All the TV watching, all the laziness, all the slack jawing's over.
It's over.
You're going to be just like a baby at six months being chopped up in its mother's womb.
You're not a human.
You're not essential.
You're dead.
unidentified
They're going to kill you because you don't care.
There's so much hand sanitizer on the market, but beware.
So...
dan friesen
Yeah, that was a jarring shift into that commercial.
jordan holmes
Never not fun.
dan friesen
Yeah, so I guess we should not storm Capitol buildings then if we're all, you know...
I don't understand.
jordan holmes
If I recall correctly, I do believe that Alex said God appointed him to defeat Satan.
And he was the only person that Satan was worried about.
dan friesen
Yeah, and that's why Satan tried to recruit him when he was younger with all the hot cheerleaders.
jordan holmes
So, I mean, now that he's done, I assume Satan's like, whew!
Dodged a bullet on that one.
I guess God isn't that powerful, now is he?
dan friesen
Well, look, don't blame God for Alex's failures.
jordan holmes
I'm pretty sure that that's the only person you can blame!
dan friesen
This is an HR issue.
jordan holmes
His prophecies are shit!
I don't believe God at all anymore, Dan!
dan friesen
I do think that if you take everything Alex says seriously, then yes, he has been defeated by the devil at this point.
jordan holmes
And by extension, so has God.
dan friesen
Yeah, but also...
I could see a world where God is sitting off at the side.
He's like, I didn't tell you to do that.
jordan holmes
I can see that world, too.
dan friesen
Hey, Alex, don't keep my name out of your mouth.
I didn't tell you to do anything.
unidentified
Hey, buddy, guess who you've been working for the whole time, you idiot?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
You're controlled opposition for the devil.
Alex Jones is a devil false flag.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that does sound right.
dan friesen
So, Alex believes that everyone in the news, like all over, MSM.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Everyone's calling for Trump people to be thrown in camps.
Sure.
Trump fans.
Just people who like him.
jordan holmes
What kind of camp?
dan friesen
People who...
Bad ones.
jordan holmes
Like off-site?
dan friesen
No, FEMA.
jordan holmes
FEMA.
unidentified
FEMA camps.
Oh, okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
Five years ago, if we had one clip of national TV saying, let's put people in re-education camps, we'd be airing in every segment.
I probably saw five clips this morning of national news saying we need to arrest all Trump supporters and re-educate them.
jordan holmes
They're not saying that for no reason!
You said if you had one clip...
alex jones
We need emergency legislative events.
We need the states lining up against this.
We need all the big churches coming out against it.
We need all the men that I see on the golf courses are polishing their Porsches or their jet boats to spend some time caring about this.
jordan holmes
Don't you have boats?
alex jones
But all the successful men keep their heads down.
And it makes me sick because you're not successful.
You're the ones that took our birthright and crapped it away.
That's why I'm pissed, man.
I'm really pissed off right now.
We got a case of communist cancer.
dan friesen
So again, Alex is furious that rich people aren't doing more to support the info war or something.
I think you can read between the lines a little bit on that.
We've heard this chorus before.
I do think that this is him trying to do a posterity last broadcast.
Like the fake last broadcast thing.
He's getting really mad.
He's trying to get his Howard Beale moment.
Mad as hell.
Not gonna take it anymore.
unidentified
Never!
dan friesen
Kind of thing.
And it's really funny.
Because he starts time traveling.
His mind starts traveling through time.
He brings out a story from 2008 and pretends it's current.
jordan holmes
I'm excited.
alex jones
I mean, this is it, folks.
I start thinking about all the things I want to say and all the things I want to do, and it just makes me mad that our precious country is being literally sucked into a black hole of world government.
unidentified
Literally.
Literally.
alex jones
Oh, God.
Do you understand they are announcing shock collars and shock bracelets and bracelets and dog collars for everyone to wear?
Okay?
I mean, I have the newscast.
jordan holmes
From 2008.
alex jones
The plan is they're going to be shocking callers.
Oh, you'll wear a collar now to show your COVID thing and it tracks you and social businesses.
No, no, no.
The actual meetings are about having a shocker in it.
And the public's like, I love my shocker!
I'm not joking!
dan friesen
No, but you're talking about a 13-year-old news story about something that the DHS was considering and didn't implement.
jordan holmes
There is that.
dan friesen
This is so sad.
jordan holmes
There is that.
That might be an issue.
dan friesen
And I actually know that that's exactly what he's talking about, because we heard him talk about that in past episodes.
jordan holmes
No, the problem is, Dan, liberals don't have any memories.
dan friesen
Right, but I also heard him bring it up on this episode.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
This same episode, he talks about how they were going to do that for anti-terrorism in 2008, and he remembers it, and then he incorporates it into the present narrative.
jordan holmes
I hate him so much.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's the worst.
Yeah.
Content warning, I guess, about this.
This next clip is pretty gross, but it's Alex freaking out.
He's now super mad.
He's losing his mind, starts complaining more about shock collars.
jordan holmes
Are they shock collars like what we're used to, or are they collars that just explain what is happening with climate change?
dan friesen
They're shocking collars in the sense that they are, like, garish.
They're collars that are just...
jordan holmes
They're bedazzled.
Yes.
dan friesen
They're like, ooh, you can't wear that.
jordan holmes
They're actually slap bracelets, and people are shocked you're still wearing them.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
So there's more talk about shock collars here, and then Alex brings in a little bit of his fears and disgusting stuff about Drag Queen's story time.
unidentified
Oh, God.
jordan holmes
You don't get to do this!
dan friesen
It's been a while.
This ends predictably.
alex jones
Not Communist China.
Homeland Security is having meetings about shockers you wear around your neck.
dan friesen
13 years ago.
alex jones
I mean, hell, you let convicted pedophiles go to elementary schools and have your six-year-old daughters and sons bounce up and down on their erections.
I mean, literally, I watch these videos.
We can't even air these on air.
I can't even look at them.
Of some fat pot-bellied dude with a little six-year-old girl on him riding his crotch.
He's got an erection.
This is what they do on TV.
And then they cut to the local newscaster.
He goes, well, got to get them when they're young.
See, he's a leader.
He just goes along with it.
Got to get the children when they're young, huh?
unidentified
Do you think you're safe in a world where they got kids with pedophiles on TV?
alex jones
Do you think you're safe, you dumb son of a bitch?
unidentified
Maybe.
alex jones
You think they're safe when they're...
Now we know the COVID vaccine kills old people at a very high percentage rate?
You think we're safe when they're killing all the old people?
And do you think God likes us when we do that?
It's all gonna burn.
All of you that think you're smart and you're part of the system as you can manipulate those under you, it's all gonna come back on you a trillion fold.
And I'm just saying right now, I will not be part of this.
unidentified
I will not submit to it.
You know, SimpliSafe sells a social distancing sweater.
alex jones
All right, I said I'd go to your calls.
Show them the Homeland Security video where you wear taser bracelets.
I'm not making this up, folks.
I know I'm saying this stuff.
It just sounds fantastic.
I'm not lying.
Is there a solution to hijacking?
Yes.
Everyone will wear a shocking bracelet, Homeland Security says.
It's okay.
Only if you're bad will the stewardess shock you.
Oh, I'm sorry.
The flight attendant, don't put me in a re-education center.
jordan holmes
Put him in a re-education center.
alex jones
Okay.
I'm going to just say this and go to a call.
It could be your last chance to get an InfoWars t-shirt, a Trader Joe's t-shirt.
Shows this country he's sold out to.
It'll be your last chance to get X2, X3.
dan friesen
Wow, that really drives home the sincerity of that entire rant.
It really feels genuine and organic and real.
jordan holmes
You don't get to do it!
dan friesen
It doesn't feel like a performance at all meant to heighten people's emotions, put them in a suggestible state, wherein they might be like, oh no, I gotta buy this t-shirt.
jordan holmes
You know, I think this is why I really don't care.
Like, I've seen a lot of those takes where it's like, no, you need to feel for the Q people.
They really believe this is real, and that's why, you know, I know you don't think that they should...
unidentified
And it's like, man, I get it.
jordan holmes
I get it.
I care because a child believes that the boogeyman is under the bed.
I care.
The child is a child.
I'm going to be like, hey, no, there's no boogeyman under the bed.
Let's do this.
You're an adult.
I don't care.
I don't care if you believe that the boogeyman is under the bed.
I just don't care.
You're an adult.
Many of you people are middle-aged or older.
Stop believing that there's a boogeyman under the bed.
dan friesen
Yeah, but you're not taking into account nearly enough how belief that there's a boogeyman under your bed gives you security and fills an emotional hole that you need filled, and you don't realize that it's being filled by something as false and nonsensical as a boogeyman under your bed.
jordan holmes
I realize that.
dan friesen
You may, but I don't feel like you're empathizing to that.
jordan holmes
I'm not.
I'm thoroughly not.
Because they're not children.
dan friesen
That's okay, and that's your right.
I disagree with you.
jordan holmes
I understand that.
dan friesen
So, you know, if we're pretending that this is Alex's last show, one of the things that he would obviously do in this last show is put off going to calls and not really get around to them.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, of course.
dan friesen
And so he does successfully do that by screaming about all sorts of stuff.
And then he finally does get to calls.
And in normal caller fashion, they're kind of a bummer.
This one guy who calls in has been in the Capitol, in D.C., since the 6th.
Not the building.
Excuse me.
And he's really struggling to understand why Trump would go away.
Why would he get on an airplane and give up on being president if we know the election was stolen, if we know these people are demons?
Why would he do that?
It's tough.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
I got the call from the president to be here on January 6th, and I'm still here.
alex jones
Well, God bless you, brother.
What do you see there?
What's unfolding?
unidentified
I see a lot of buses, a lot of buses with the tinted windows, and I'm hoping that there are troops, real troops, U.S. soldiers.
One thing that you're not mentioning at all is, where's Trump?
If he doesn't say something and start the Insurrection Act or something to slow this down, this will be worse than the Bay of Pigs.
alex jones
I hear you.
That's what I'm saying is he's surrounded.
No one is supporting him.
The Cube movement was to make people think he was invincible.
They set us up on the 6th to demonize us.
jordan holmes
You said he was chosen by God.
alex jones
So Trump's going to leave.
I mean, that's what's going down here, brother.
Those troops.
But here's the weird wrinkle.
They're now saying the troops are terrorists.
Fox News is saying, and CNN's reporting, they don't trust the troops either.
So who knows what's going on up there?
I mean, this is crazy, brother.
We're about to find out, aren't we?
unidentified
We the people know what the truth is.
We know there was election fraud.
We know COVID is a hoax.
We know there's rampant pedophilia going on.
We know Epstein didn't kill himself.
We know we didn't send help for the Benghazi soldiers.
We know that Joe Biden's senile.
What in the heck?
How could a man get on a plane and fly away from all of this?
He also said he would never surrender.
So I'm here in the belly of the beast, waiting for the command.
dan friesen
That's so sad.
That just really bums me out.
That's a guy who's accepted and internalized all of these narratives from right-wing media, and he has the right thought, but he's not reaching the conclusion.
And that is, how could...
Trump, if he is our hero, how could he know all of these things and allow it to continue?
Take the next step, buddy.
jordan holmes
I would imagine that the next step is making up a reason that makes him still be the hero.
dan friesen
Yeah, or just turning it into like...
Trump was set up himself.
Yeah, who knows?
Or what Alex is doing.
He's surrounded.
He can't do anything.
jordan holmes
No, he was chosen by God.
He was defeated.
So was God.
But that's not his fault or God's fault somehow.
dan friesen
It's really no one's fault.
jordan holmes
No, it's no one's fault.
dan friesen
Probably the devil.
jordan holmes
It's probably the devil.
dan friesen
So another caller calls in and Alex gives him some bad advice that if people are listening to his show and taking him seriously, Alex could be costing people thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars.
unidentified
Sure.
Coming from a blue state, you know, in a populated area, we got a thousand people per square mile easy here.
jordan holmes
Is the time to go here?
unidentified
You know, we continue to question for those who...
alex jones
Oh, 100% is, you know, downsize your life and have cultural goodness with God.
It's worth everything not to be part of the system.
You must flee blue states and blue cities.
They're designed to totally collapse and bring down the entire United States.
God bless you, brother.
dan friesen
So, I guess, this caller, he does mention that his family has some land he can go to.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But, like, if you're someone who's listening, uprooting your life...
It would be very, very expensive.
Sure.
jordan holmes
It's a good thing that his family has land, though.
That makes it less expensive.
dan friesen
This caller does, but not other people who are listening, probably.
If they believe what Alex is saying, they're coming to kill you, they want to chop you up, America's over, it's time to flee the blue cities because they're death traps and they're meant to collapse.
He could fuck around and ruin people's lives in a way that you'd never hear about.
You'd never hear about these people who had listened to Alex, took him seriously, and decided to go to Idaho.
And I'm sorry to the people of Idaho that that's the example I often come up with.
jordan holmes
Sure, it could be Montana.
dan friesen
Idaho's a great state.
jordan holmes
Idaho, could be Oregon, could be any of those.
I mean, but a penny that they're spending on moving to a remote location is a penny they're not giving to Alex.
dan friesen
That's true.
Except if they need to get...
jordan holmes
I think Alex is the one who's the real loser in this scenario.
dan friesen
Not if they need to stock up with survival food.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's fair.
Yeah.
He's got that one.
He's got them coming and going.
He does.
unidentified
Literally.
dan friesen
And he has those waterfalls.
Yeah.
The size of a school bus.
jordan holmes
Man, he's the new Amazon for people who flee.
dan friesen
So Alex now has a guest on.
It's Jason Jones.
He's a guy who didn't like COVID restrictions and came to Alex's attention through a YouTube video, I think.
Anyway, he is there because he was at the Capitol on the 6th.
And he's complaining about how the media is gaslighting people about what happened.
This is so funny.
Mic down for this.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because this made me laugh so hard.
jason jones
You know, it's one thing to tell a lie.
It's another to seem like you believe your own lies.
It was all quite horrifying, Alex.
And it just convinced me that we have to double down on our commitment to freedom of speech, freedom of religion, free and fair elections.
And, you know, we're not going anywhere.
We're going to keep standing up.
Oh, I thought Alex was still here.
I thought I...
Okay.
So, yeah.
That's what I got.
Thank you.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Out to break.
jordan holmes
That's good stuff.
dan friesen
Man, I thought eating a sandwich was rude.
Alex just left.
jordan holmes
I love it.
That's beautiful.
That is beautiful.
I don't understand how...
Trump could just leave, you know, knowing everything he knows.
I don't understand how Trump could just leave.
Alex, I don't know how he could just leave.
dan friesen
It's remarkable.
I mean, Jason was saying, like, Alex.
He was addressing Alex.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex wasn't there.
jordan holmes
That's fantastic.
dan friesen
He later says that he was walking around with a headset mic so he could hear everything that Jason Jones was saying.
Sure.
Man, that is profoundly rude.
jordan holmes
That is fantastic.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Love it.
jordan holmes
Doesn't matter how much of a dick Alex is, doesn't matter.
dan friesen
He has a platform.
jordan holmes
Just keep on coming.
dan friesen
Yep.
Somebody who used Alex's platform, maybe for nefarious purposes, Steve Pachanik.
And Steve might have turned evil, according to Alex in this.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And he seems to be implying that Steve flipped over and started supporting Q because he turned evil.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But that introduces a problem, and that is that Alex is huge on General Flynn now.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And General Flynn pledged allegiance to Q. There's that.
So Alex tries to thread this needle here, and it does not work.
alex jones
The movement was exploding.
Q came along to take control of it with intelligence ops.
We now know that well-known intelligence ops that I know personally flipped to Q at the end because they were controlled.
General Flynn's a great guy.
He just wanted to lead an army that was waiting there with Q, but he still didn't control it.
He's a good guy.
dan friesen
He's...
He just wanted to control an army.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I don't know.
I feel like...
Controlling an army under false pretenses makes you less of a good guy, right?
unidentified
No, he's a good guy.
dan friesen
He's a good guy.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Good guy.
jordan holmes
He's a good dude!
He's just, you know, lying to all these evil people in order to turn them into an army that he can use to overthrow the government, Dan!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's a patriot.
dan friesen
And see, the problem with QAnon, according to Jason Jones, is, you know, they use vague information from anonymous sources.
While you're listening to this, just remember how many times Alex has referenced vague things that a lieutenant colonel told him.
jason jones
People have such faith in Q. I've been startled at people in my life, people I love and know from, I went to high school with, college with, served in the Army.
They're just, I'm getting inundated with these texts and forwards that their source, they all have these sources, and I'll call them and I'll say, listen, you know, put that aside for now.
Please stop sharing this information.
From an anonymous source, it's communicated in a way that's ambiguous, and you can't verify what they state.
When you have an ambiguous statement from an anonymous source that cannot be verified, you can't support it or refute it, all that can lead to is infighting and mistrust.
And then that's the structure, the very structure.
It doesn't matter even the content of what they say.
It doesn't matter what you say.
When it's from an anonymous source, said in an ambiguous way, That cannot be verified or refuted.
The only thing you have then is argument.
alex jones
It is a satanic action.
dan friesen
What?
What?
I mean, Jason might as well be explaining what Alex does.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex turns in, it's a satanic system.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's very dumb.
jordan holmes
I do like whenever self-awareness of one's evil is allowed to sublimate through blaming someone else.
That's good.
That's good stuff.
Way to not...
Reflect.
dan friesen
So earlier on this episode, we heard Alex pretty mad.
You know, freaking out a little bit.
They're gonna kill you.
They're gonna chop you up.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Shit's going down.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
Poison in the water.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
They're gonna kill you.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
He was also very viscerally responding to things.
He seemed pretty mad.
And that's why this is really, really funny.
jason jones
You have been probably...
You should write a book on maintaining inner peace.
jordan holmes
I agree.
I very much agree.
dan friesen
Breathe through the nose.
jordan holmes
I very much agree that I have often been lacking a zen and the art of screaming propaganda.
unidentified
This position is called a sun salutation.
dan friesen
Do it every morning.
Keeps me centered.
jordan holmes
Keeps me sane.
I'm just going to snort some Adderall real quick, and then I'm going to yoga.
dan friesen
First Adderall, then incense.
We burn incense to keep the vibe real chill in the house.
I always have a glass of tea.
jordan holmes
You know what's fun about yoga is whenever your right leg is constantly shaking.
dan friesen
Makes it more difficult.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it does stuff.
dan friesen
Anyway, their interview's stupid.
I don't care.
And that brings us to the 19th.
So now we're on to Tuesday, the day before communist Joe Biden becomes president.
jordan holmes
He's going to kill us all.
dan friesen
And since we're recording this on the 21st, we know that it went off without a hitch.
No real...
Real trouble at the inauguration.
jordan holmes
I'd say 25,000 uniformed troops probably is a pretty good deterrent.
dan friesen
Probably.
He gave his speech and it sort of flew in the face of all the he's senile, he can't talk for even a minute kind of stuff.
jordan holmes
There was an issue.
dan friesen
So Alex is still living in the before times though.
But he does know.
That that is what's going to happen.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
That Biden is going to get in.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
Unfortunately, almost half of his audience believes Steve.
alex jones
And I have a lot of people mad at me, but you won't be mad tomorrow when you see that I told you the truth.
You'll be very, very sad.
We had a poll on Infowars.com over the weekend with tens of thousands of people that clicked on it.
I don't know if we ever had a chance to pull that up.
We should have an article about it where we can repost it and have people vote again.
And over 45% thought that...
Everyone's being mass arrested and Trump's going to stay in office.
Absolutely incredible.
dan friesen
Well, maybe part of that is because of the people you talk to.
jordan holmes
I don't understand.
dan friesen
Maybe it's because of...
jordan holmes
It is absolutely incredible that my audience, after me telling them this, would believe it.
dan friesen
And me having guests on who I've overinflated their credibility.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Saying that they know everything they overthrow countries.
jordan holmes
I mean, you've had somebody who's literally toppled governments before.
I don't understand why we would believe he couldn't once more.
dan friesen
Exactly.
I think that that's indicative of...
I mean, I don't know how scientific these polls are on Infowars, but assuming that a third of his audience, even, let's say, believes that Steve is right and that Trump is going to somehow magically remain president, if I saw that number for our audience, I would think I'd fail.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would strongly believe that.
dan friesen
I would think that's a big problem with my audience.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I would almost say that would be a reason for us to quit doing the show.
Yeah.
We're bad for people.
dan friesen
Alex doesn't look at it that way.
He's kind of excited for them to be proven wrong and to be proven right.
Which is a little shitty.
jordan holmes
That'll show the people who give me money.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, there's a loose thread dangling from the 6th.
And that is that Alex has said, repeatedly, and on microphones, that Trump personally asked him to lead the march from the speech to the Capitol building.
jordan holmes
Doesn't look good in hindsight.
dan friesen
Does not.
Turns out.
Alex was set up from the inside.
alex jones
He wanted a million people in D.C. to peacefully demonstrate so that we would show we had more numbers than they did and to show that Biden couldn't fill a parking lot and Trump could get a million people there.
That Trump was coming to speak at a stage that was set up on the other side.
But it was all a setup.
That stage was there the night before.
It was broken down by the time we got there.
Oh, we were totally set up.
We walk completely into a trap with people inside his administration, we know now, that set Trump up and told him that it's Jones' idea to march to the Capitol and all this stuff, and it's a great idea, and you should tell him to lead it, because they intended for me to go in there and lead that thing so they could throw my ass in prison.
But of course, by the time I got there, I saw what was happening and tried to stop it.
This is the real world, people.
unidentified
Who?
Who inside the Trump administration is trying to set you up?
jordan holmes
Name names.
If somebody was trying to set you up, I would imagine you would really want to name names, right?
dan friesen
That would be big news.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think everybody would give you a lot of attention if you could name names.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Come on, Alex.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
Does not.
jordan holmes
Doesn't.
dan friesen
So, the globalist plan...
Oh, also, by the way, I realize now that we've moved on to the 19th.
He didn't really do a last episode on the 18th, but he also didn't say, I'm doing it tomorrow.
So I assume that was meant to be it, and it was just that outburst.
jordan holmes
And he just got distracted.
dan friesen
I think he just did an outburst and started yelling and hoped it would kind of look like Network.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
That's kind of the feeling that I get.
jordan holmes
I think his last broadcast being like 15 minutes long would really be great for me.
dan friesen
His last broadcast being...
Talking about migrant caravans, over-exaggerating their fear that you should have for them, and then that putting him into a mood where he screams about shit and how they're all gonna die, and it, this is over, man!
And then puts off going to calls.
I think that's fitting.
I think that's pretty good.
I mean, I think it's- That's about right.
jordan holmes
It's either that or him just being like, and now I'm gonna say all the slurs that I've wanted to since the beginning in alphabetical order.
unidentified
Hey.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Also, here's what I think about Willy Wonka.
jordan holmes
Yes, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I watched it last night, and I've got a 20-minute review.
jordan holmes
Horrific racism plus sci-fi reviews.
dan friesen
Speaking of sci-fi, did you know that H.G. Wells formerly was the head of the bad guys?
jordan holmes
I did not know that.
dan friesen
Yeah, I learned that.
alex jones
The globalists have been planning this takeover for 100 years.
Really long.
You can debate.
I mean, 1850s, they had the basic plan under Galton, Wedgwood, and Huxley.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
Those are the grandparents of, like, Aldous Huxley and Julian Huxley.
And then by 1900, H.C. Wells was the leader of the Illuminati, and they had more of the modern plan all dialed up and ready.
But it was all extremely visionary, just ultra-visionary.
They're always 30, 40 years ahead of everybody, which is why they say they have the right to do this.
And I understand their perspective.
I mean, I'm not going to join them because I can feel my immortal soul is in danger.
I can feel it.
But I understand why they're doing it.
It makes a lot of sense.
I mean, the public's so dumb, they can openly take everything away from you and kill you.
You put up with it, you deserve to die.
Wow.
dan friesen
Alex.
jordan holmes
Strong words.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Strong words immediately following, I think, that the Dead Authors podcast by Paul F. Tompkins is real.
dan friesen
You shouldn't probably have that position.
It seems...
Bad.
jordan holmes
I think it goes against everything that he said he wanted in the past for saving people in the light.
dan friesen
It does feel that way.
Also, if H.G. Wells was the leader of the Illuminati, but this plan only goes back to the Wedgwoods in 1850, the Illuminati started in 1776.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Something along those lines.
Doesn't that go back before 1850?
Who knows?
jordan holmes
They were the new Illuminati.
It's like the old Illuminati died.
Coke brought it back in new Illuminati, I believe.
That sounds right.
dan friesen
Anyway, H.G. Wells, not just an author.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Head of the Illuminati.
jordan holmes
Not just a...
unidentified
Cool.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Cool.
Alex doesn't have a meeting with him, but he might have a meeting with another top Illuminati figure.
alex jones
The difference is I'm not going to join him, though I am going to be meeting with a top globalist the next month.
Top globalist.
So I will be entertaining at least what they have to say because it's important to keep those dialogues going.
What?
jordan holmes
What did you just say?
alex jones
This is very serious, ladies and gentlemen.
This is your life, your soul, your children's future.
And you just have to understand that I'm not going to sit here and debate and argue with people about this stuff.
It's all out in the open.
dan friesen
So yeah, Alex is going to have a meeting with the top globalists.
So that's got to be what?
Bill Gates?
jordan holmes
It has to be something like that.
He's a middleman now.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
It's possible.
dan friesen
Depends on who you ask.
Which one of Alex's guests you ask.
Could be Klaus Schwab.
jordan holmes
Could be.
I want to say it's a secret Rothschild.
I think it's one of the ones that we've never heard of.
dan friesen
A mystery Rothschild?
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's why they get away with it.
dan friesen
Like that one Jonas brother who's not in the group?
jordan holmes
There's another Jonas brother?
dan friesen
There's a bonus Jonas.
jordan holmes
There's a secret Jonas?
Yeah.
Who was it?
Was it the Kennedys who supposedly had a relative that they kept in the attic or something like that?
dan friesen
I think they did.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right!
unidentified
They actually did!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Holy shit!
That's real weird that we're just...
Oh, that's crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I was just talking about a Jonas brother who didn't get to be in the fucking group.
You're talking about something really sad.
jordan holmes
I thought it was a myth at first.
dan friesen
No.
I don't know who Alex is talking about.
I also don't believe this is true.
But the globalists...
They need you to accept their plan in order for them to get away with what they're doing.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Alex expresses this a little bit.
And then I wanted to talk a tiny bit about where this idea comes from.
alex jones
Humanity is starting to wake up and actually be who they should be and say no to it.
And then the globalists don't get to play the social Darwin game.
But if you don't recognize what they're doing, if you don't have an open dialogue with the globalists and talk to them person to person and say, I know what you're doing.
You don't have a right.
I'm going to resist you.
Then they have no respect for you and will run over you.
They metaphysically need you to acquiesce and submit.
They always have to leave you an escape valve.
It is a rule of the universe that God has put down.
And they follow these rules.
And if you won't study what they're up to, and if you won't study their plan versus God's plan, and if you won't make a spiritual, cultural, economic, and physical decision who you're with, Then you are fair game to them.
dan friesen
So the religious stuff that he adds onto this is whatever, but the idea that if you don't know their plan and specifically fight back...
Like, he's just taking that from that fake document, Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars, which was chapter one of Bill Cooper's book, Behold the Pale Horse.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
We covered this in depth in our episode number 381 on this podcast, so I don't want to rehash all the history of that again, but if you're interested in how fake that document is, go and listen to that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
On page six of that fake document, there's a particular quote that Bill Cooper would repeat over and over and over again on his show.
So, to the point where, like, if you were a listener, We would definitely have that implanted in your mind as a really important point.
Quote, In 1954, this was the issue of primary concern.
Although the so-called moral issues were raised, in view of the law of natural selection, it was agreed that a nation or world of people who will not use their intelligence are no better than animals who do not have intelligence.
Such people are beasts of burden and stakes on the table by choice and consent.
This is where Alex's idea that if you don't directly fight the globalists, that's the equivalent of you consenting for them to do whatever they want to do to you.
If they can get away with taking all your stuff, this is all just silent weapons for quiet wars.
We've heard Alex reference the document before.
I know he was a huge Bill Cooper listener.
That's all this mythology about the globalists needing you to consent by not fighting them.
Stuff comes from.
It's all just a fake document.
jordan holmes
I assume he's apologized for saying that he knows God's plan and he can see it and he's part of God's plan and he's apologized for being wrong and he said that he can't see God's plan and maybe all of his ideas of what God can control are off.
dan friesen
No, not once.
jordan holmes
Not once?
dan friesen
This is all still part of God's plan.
God's plan is now for him to fight Joe Biden.
Politically and make a bunch of money telling people to head to the woods.
jordan holmes
See, now, I thought he had already told me that God's plan was for him to defeat Joe Biden and the devil and Trump to take over and create a lasting 1,000-year-long reign.
dan friesen
I don't know if he was ever specific about the 1,000-year reign, but it did certainly have overtones of that.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
One of the things about prophets is when they're alive, they're really slippery.
They change their prophecies quite a bit.
jordan holmes
Joseph Smith was real good at that.
He had a real talent for that.
dan friesen
Kind of, it's where long-form improv comes from.
jordan holmes
It might be!
dan friesen
Super long-form improv is rearranging prophecies.
jordan holmes
Decades-long form improv.
dan friesen
So these games that Alex is playing with his predictions and stuff, maybe decades long.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But the globalists, their plan is hundreds of years old.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
You can debate it.
Maybe it's 1850.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Maybe it's H.G. Wells.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
Maybe it's Mesopotamia.
Maybe it's the pyramids.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Well, that sounds closer.
dan friesen
But anyway, Alex is going to take a meeting with them because he thinks in his hubris-filled mind, somehow he thinks he's going to talk the globalists out of their plans.
jordan holmes
Oh.
alex jones
I don't take enjoyment seeing how screwed up and falling apart humanity is.
But the plan is to make humanity so dysfunctional.
That those of us that aren't part of it are going to basically have to either commit suicide or join with the globalists and wipe your asses out.
Because, I mean, if you won't stand up for yourself, then I can't help you.
And I'm not going to join the globalists.
And I've openly had dialogues with some of their next to top level people.
And I've had some dialogue with their top people.
And they want me to stop.
And they are not going to be able to convince me.
I'm going to try to convince them.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's going to work.
I mean, I don't believe any of this stuff, but let's humor him for a second and imagine that he's going to go into, I don't know, a meeting with Klaus Schwab and be like, you gotta cut it out, man.
jordan holmes
And they're going to be like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I have not heard this information before.
Are you serious?
This is bad for humanity?
dan friesen
Oh, no.
I'm talking to the devil?
unidentified
Fuck!
jordan holmes
You know, his horns and the fact that I could never see him through the shadowy fire, that, I agree, might have been a sign.
dan friesen
I should have figured this out.
I can't believe it took a weird Texan guy yelling at me to help me see the light.
jordan holmes
Hold on one second.
Hold on, Alex, just real quick.
Are you telling me that when I sold my soul to the literal devil, he was lying to me?
dan friesen
Alex has also said that these people act compulsively and they can't help themselves.
unidentified
So I don't know how he's going to talk anybody out of anything.
dan friesen
They're also not human anymore, according to Alex.
I don't know what having a parlay is gonna do.
It's all such stupid shit.
jordan holmes
Well, I guess in order for him to enact his plans, he also has to get their tacit consent.
Because it's a rule of the universe.
It's God's plan.
dan friesen
No, because he's not doing anything to them.
unidentified
I can keep plans, too.
dan friesen
The globalists only need your consent because the things that they're doing affect you, like chemtrails over the country club.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Sure.
dan friesen
That affects all of us because of our passivity and not fighting them on it.
That's consent to have chemtrails dropped on us.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, if you're going to defeat the globalists, I assume they're going to lose all of their money and power, so that's doing something to them.
dan friesen
Yeah, but...
jordan holmes
I'm just saying, if it's a universal law, he actually has to get the consent of the globalists before he can defeat them.
dan friesen
Fine, then I guess sports can't exist.
jordan holmes
Not in God's plan.
dan friesen
Because then every team has to consent to be beaten.
jordan holmes
You have to sign a waiver before you play the game.
dan friesen
Oh, God.
jordan holmes
You both consent to...
dan friesen
So, Alex has a guest on this episode here on the 19th, and it's not an interview I'm really interested in all that much.
It is the brother of John Sullivan, the guy who got arrested for videotaping inside the Capitol building, and Alex has decided is the big Antifa leader who caused all the trouble.
jordan holmes
We've got Mike Flynn III, because Mike Flynn and Mike Jr. are not answering my calls anymore.
dan friesen
So, James Sullivan is a guy.
James, wow, incredible.
alex jones
Tell us about yourself, about your brother, and why you're on air with us, and what you've witnessed.
Because you're very well known in Utah.
You've been in news for a while, countering your brother.
I mean, you're not just popping up now after this.
You've been warning folks for a while.
This must be really hard for you to do.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, it was.
dan friesen
This interview is deeply irresponsible.
A lot of it ends up just being James talking about John's personal life in ways that I don't feel like they belong on InfoWars.
And a lot of it kind of left me feeling gross and uncomfortable.
I know that Alex really needs to build up John Sullivan as the big Antifa boogeyman in order to carry his conspiracy theories about the storming of the Capitol being a false flag, but this feels super inappropriate.
The whole thing is Alex trying to get James to give some details that Alex can use to build a deeper narrative.
He's asking these probing questions about, like, did someone put him on drugs, or do you know who his handler might be?
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
It's really gross.
And also, I don't know if James, however much he might disagree with his brother, I don't know what kind of potential damage he realizes could come to him by virtue of the way this conversation goes.
alex jones
If I fumbled in the Super Super Bowl in the one-yard line...
Not understanding I was being set up in all this, and I did.
I don't take blame for it because I'm in the arena and we were fighting for election integrity and calling for legal and lawful things to happen.
I'm now being accused of trying to foment things.
But he didn't fumble at the one-yard line.
He scored and won the game against America in the Super Bowl of our Republic.
I mean, if they put a tombstone saying our Republic died in the future, if we don't come back from this, it will be your brother and people like him that day that helped kill the country.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's not good.
dan friesen
I don't know if he realizes the kind of conversation that they're having here.
It's really the kind of thing that could potentially put a target on...
jordan holmes
Mr. Sullivan, real quick.
dan friesen
Do you want our listeners to kill your brother?
jordan holmes
I just want you to agree with me that all of this is your brother's fault.
He has killed the country, and he, of course, deserves...
I'm not gonna...
Politically!
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And at the same time, too, this dude is saying that there was somebody who was along filming John because they're making a documentary about him and his brother.
Like, the two of them are both, like, on opposite sides of the political aisle.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so, like, I don't know what's going on here.
I don't trust any of this.
I don't care about any of this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I really don't care.
dan friesen
It's just really, really, really uncomfortable.
But...
I will say that James doesn't realize what Alex's narrative is, clearly, because he counters it.
unidentified
Seeing him wasn't really that much of a surprise.
After he was removed from Utah, he traveled to Kenosha, to California, to Portland, trying to get into these Antifa communities, and they would kick him out.
So seeing him here wasn't really that big of a surprise.
dan friesen
Well, his brother's saying that he keeps getting kicked out of Antifa groups, anti-fascist groups, so it's kind of tough for Alex to then argue that he is an Antifa leader.
Yeah.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Seems like they're both running a game.
I'm not saying that they're running a game, but it does seem like they're running a game.
dan friesen
I think that a lot of...
There have been some people who have reached out with their comments about John.
And from the sense that I get, there is sort of an attention-seeking behavior pattern.
And kind of disregard for what other people are doing that are productive things.
jordan holmes
Maybe I'm just so...
A condition to believe anybody in that sphere is running a game of some kind.
dan friesen
Well, the thing that I think is the most worrying is the idea that someone was making a documentary about the two of them.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That, to me, is like, okay, if one of these brothers is someone who seems to have a clear pattern of attention-seeking behavior, and the other brother happens to be directly on the other side of the political aisle and is doing a documentary with...
It seems like this is all attention-seeking behavior.
jordan holmes
It really does.
dan friesen
And the fact that you would go and talk about your brother in such a weird way on Infowars of all places.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It just grosses me out.
There's too many human elements to it that just, like...
I wouldn't like this kind of conversation to be had about anybody, really.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't see any, like...
Either they're, like, okay, so they could be running a game and this is fucked up.
Or they're not running a game and this is fucked up.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, like, this is fucked up.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
We have not interviewed people who know Alex for a reason.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because it's uncomfortable and fucking weird.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
I wish Alex would do the same, because this is weird.
jordan holmes
This is weird.
dan friesen
It's very unpleasant to listen to, and so we won't listen to any more of it.
Alex does, though, on this episode, get to sit talking about how he doesn't want Biden dead, but he is going to put him in his death pool.
jordan holmes
Okay, that's not great.
alex jones
And so I don't want anything bad to happen, and they'll turn him into a martyr, but I do put a death pool on him, a dead pool.
I don't think he's going to be dead in the next year.
But I bet Biden...
He likes power, though, but they put him in there because he's so weak and so addled.
He's talked about stepping down, feigning an illness as a reason to go.
jordan holmes
When?
unidentified
I don't know.
alex jones
We should have a whole show and debate once we have our installed president, our first dictator.
dan friesen
So, first dictator again.
Yeah, he was talking about stepping down and faking an illness when he was vice president, if he had a fundamental difference with Obama.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's a very different situation than the current.
But whatever.
I don't know.
I know that he's trying to say he's putting him in the death pool.
But I don't know.
He's saying, I put a death pool on him like it's a hex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he did say that.
dan friesen
It's very weird.
jordan holmes
I put a death pool on you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we have another guest here before we wrap up the 19th.
This episode was not good.
This was a slog to get through.
Alex has Nick Fuentes on.
And it's interesting because they have slightly different viewpoints about the storming of the Capitol.
jordan holmes
Unsurprising.
dan friesen
Alex is all false flag.
This was bad.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
And Nick has been pretty in favor.
jordan holmes
Love it!
alex jones
They're calling it the great insurrection.
They're calling it the end of the world.
They're calling for Nick Foyntes to be arrested because he was seen outside.
They're calling for me to be arrested.
I think it was great to see people say, we know this was a fraudulent election.
But I think it was terrible that some people gave the system what they wanted when they broke in.
So Nick Foyntes has been quoted in the media as liking what happened.
I imagine that's probably out of context.
We appreciate him coming on to tell us what he really thinks.
So the founder of the I want to play one thing here that's sort of out of order because I think it provides context.
dan friesen
It's our responsibility.
nick fuentes
Later, people falsely claimed that I breached the Capitol, which wasn't true.
But I stood outside the Capitol, I watched, I gave a little speech, and then we packed up and left.
dan friesen
There were people who were claiming that Nick Fuentes was, along with Baked Alaska in the Capitol, there was a picture that definitely looked a ton like Nick Fuentes.
It was quite believable, and I took that as proof that he was there, because I looked a lot like him.
It appears that that's not accurate.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
It appears that he was outside.
He did not go inside.
He claims that is the case, and I can't find solid evidence outside of that picture.
Yeah.
And so I'm willing to believe his statement that I was wrong when I repeated that he was in the Capitol.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
dan friesen
Anyway, he still thinks it was great, though.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
Which almost is more evidence, I think, that he didn't go inside.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I imagine if he were under arrest right now, he would think less of how great it was.
dan friesen
I think a lot of people who are getting arrested probably are not like, that was awesome.
jordan holmes
I'm a big fan of the...
dan friesen
Joe Biggs is not pumped right now.
jordan holmes
I'm a big fan of the we got carried up in the moment argument.
Hey, man, it's a crime of passion, Dan.
Those don't count.
dan friesen
Well, some people would look at it as a crime of passion, and some people would think of what happened that day, the entirety of it, as the culmination of the Stop the Steal thing that Alex was a big part of.
jordan holmes
You could say that.
nick fuentes
And when we got there, the entire Capitol building was surrounded, and I have to say it was a pretty awesome sight.
Because I had been, and I know that you were there as well, we were traveling the country in Phoenix, Atlanta, all over the place.
Doing Stop the Steal protests, raising awareness about the voter fraud and everything.
And so to finally see hundreds of thousands of Trump supporters surrounding the U.S. Capitol building demanding that Mike Pence or the Republican senators take action on the voter fraud, to me that was kind of like the fulfillment of the past two or three months of Stop the Steal protests.
And to me it looked like the American people were waking up, rising up, and all of that.
dan friesen
Everything else was a fulfillment of it, too.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Everything else was the logical extension of the movement that you all have been pushing down the road.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Nick has a little bit of a softer view on QAnon than Alex.
Alex is pretty mad, and of course a large portion of it always comes down to he wants credit.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And that is also where this clip is gonna go.
But Nick kind of has a position more like, eh, it woke people up, the normie types, the suburban moms.
You know, they now know about how all of the people I don't like are Draculas.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Now that we got the suburban moms terrified, we're on our way to victory, baby.
dan friesen
He sees the utility in that and thinks that there's probably still some ability to get those people back into a profitable revenue stream.
nick fuentes
The good thing about QAnon, I always thought was that It got a lot of regular people to believe the right things, even if they were believing them for the wrong reasons.
You know, it took a lot of maybe mainstream conservative Republican types who believe this usual stuff about small government and free trade and mass immigration and low taxes.
And I think it woke them up about the power of the elites and the evil and the corruption of the elites and kind of this international thing that's going on with foreign governments.
alex jones
Well, yeah, they took all the work that I did and countless others did, and you've been around a while, did.
And it became Q. They're like, oh, Q knows about this.
But don't worry, everything's fine.
But, I mean, I agree.
It was kind of a pop play for the general public.
It was just now waking up to get into it.
dan friesen
See, the thing that I like about that is that Alex is pissed off that he's not getting credit.
jordan holmes
Once again, I want credit for...
dan friesen
And in order to not sound like a super petty asshole, he's like, you've been around a while.
Yeah!
22 years old.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's a vet now.
He's a veteran.
He was there at the Storm of the Capitol.
There's no rookies anymore, Dan.
dan friesen
He was in high school at the 2016 election.
jordan holmes
I know.
I heard him debate.
It was garbage.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Granted, he was at the Unite the Right rally and the Storm of the Capitol.
He's seen some shit, but he's not been around a while in the way that Alex is pretending.
jordan holmes
You were a big fan of Bill Cooper back in the day.
You're nine?
I'm in trouble.
dan friesen
Let me tell you about Skousen.
So, this is our last clip here.
Nick is just talking about how the globalists fear Alex because he has an audience.
He can reach people.
nick fuentes
But what they feared about you and what they feared about Joe Rogan and a lot of these people is that you have your own...
Totally independent infrastructure broadcasting to millions and millions of people.
You still do.
And they don't control you.
And they don't control what you say.
They want to control everything that people hear.
They want to control what's on their phones.
They want to control what's on their TV, on their radio.
alex jones
Well, they're freaking out that I'm pointing out that the Boogaloos are still on Twitter and you and I aren't.
dan friesen
Nick is still verified on Twitter.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
He's still there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So that kind of punctures that.
I don't know.
I think it's less that...
You know, everybody wants to control how everybody speaks and all that.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And more, you know, there's certain platforms that just don't put up with certain behaviors, and you guys have crossed those lines to the point where people are going to take it seriously.
And I would assume that if those Boogaloo accounts, you know, you can show that they were involved in X, Y, or Z and report them, they will be banned.
They will be kicked off.
I would assume.
And I don't know who he's talking about, so I can't even fact check it.
I can't go look for every account that has hashtag Boogaloo in it, and that's not even going to help.
Then I have to go through hashtag Big Igloo, all the weird fun ways everybody spells things.
I can't do that.
You're making a nonsense statement.
It's almost like vague information from an unknown source.
It's satanic.
jordan holmes
It's hard not to hear them saying, like, okay, well, we used to never have to think about how people feel.
Then they started asking us to think about how we feel, and we stormed the Capitol.
And now they're demanding that we think about how other people feel, and they're giving us consequences when we don't.
That sounds like exactly what they're saying, right?
dan friesen
There's some overlap.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I find this to be sad.
This was not a good couple of days for Alex.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It wasn't even like...
Maybe he's holding back for the long marathon of the inauguration day, but I don't know.
It's the last two days, and he mustered up his fake last show on the 19th, or I'm sorry, on the 18th, and it was just sort of like, it wasn't anything.
It was a real disappointing crescendo.
It got nothing.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's not terrible.
You know, you've had that day where you know that at the end of the week you're gonna have the worst, like, longest day, and the day before that, the day before that, you're like, you know what, I'm gonna take it easy today.
I'm just gonna do my job, but I'm not really gonna, you know, go hard.
dan friesen
I'm gonna yell a little bit, and then I'm gonna...
jordan holmes
I got a lot of things to scream about.
I'm gonna lie, but then I'm just gonna take it easy, man.
dan friesen
I imagine maybe he's been too busy writing that book about inner peace.
I do think even if everything sucks and nothing is really going on here, I would...
I have done this episode just for that clip where Alex is gone.
jordan holmes
That's so good.
I just want that there.
I will say this.
I will make this pledge.
If Alex does write that book, I will edit it for free.
100% for free.
dan friesen
And I will do an audiobook of it in my Alex impression.
That will be...
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
That is the one thing we will do for Alex in our career.
dan friesen
Breathe.
We'll be back, Jordan, with the inauguration spectacular 2020.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
And I said 2020 because, Alex, that's what's on the tombstone.
jordan holmes
Yes, I see that.
dan friesen
We'll do that on Monday, and I'm excited for that.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yes, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter at knowledgefight, and I go to bed, Jordan.
dan friesen
You're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook.
And if you could, please find a local charity or pay a fund in your area to help out people doing God's work.
dan friesen
Yeah, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
I am constantly fighting the devil.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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