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Jan. 4, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
01:42:29
#516: December 31, 2020- January 1, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan ring in the new year with Alex Jones. In this installment, Alex strengthens the case that he fell for the Nigerian Prince email scam, a "constitutional lawyer" supports having a second pretend president, and an old friend makes a surprise appearance.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
18:28
d
dan friesen
44:42
j
jordan holmes
26:49
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robert barnes
04:05
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roger stone
01:07
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
roger stone
Dan and Jordan.
unidentified
Knowledge fight.
I need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
roger stone
Stop it.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fat.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan, is that I completed my newest little nanoblock sculpture.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, you did!
dan friesen
I've been getting into these little mini Legos quite a bit.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And I got a new one.
jordan holmes
I don't believe you can call them mini Legos.
That is a brand name, Dan.
These are nanoblocks!
dan friesen
I got one that is the Easter Island heads.
And it was a little bit easy, actually.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's pretty small, but great.
I have always had a...
An attraction.
I've been drawn to the Easter Island, the statues.
jordan holmes
You really have?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We've talked about this at length.
dan friesen
Since childhood.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's something about, I don't know, maybe it's because I grew up in Hawaii for a while, and there's something about the call of the island.
jordan holmes
You like an island.
dan friesen
I do like an island.
jordan holmes
You like a good island.
dan friesen
Yes.
And I guess...
You know, just the idea of those gigantic heads.
If you're a kid, that's amazing.
It fills you with wonder.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
And so it's very nice to have this as a little decoration on the desk.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is always nice to see Easter Island because no matter...
I mean, even if you know what's going on and how it was done, as many archaeologists and scientists do, there's still a party that just looks at those and goes like, what the fuck were you guys thinking?
What was going on in...
Your brain's there!
dan friesen
It's still remarkable no matter what.
jordan holmes
Yeah, amazing.
dan friesen
And to a child, it's just amazing.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
So what about you, Jordan?
jordan holmes
Dan, I'm afraid my bright spot is going to be back in FF7, but I just...
I just bred my 7,000th gold chocobo over the years.
unidentified
Oh, that's impressive.
jordan holmes
In the 23 years that I've been playing this dumb game.
dan friesen
7,000 chocobos.
jordan holmes
So many gold chocobos.
But Dan, it's weird.
I have bred my fastest ever gold chocobo.
It is.
I've never seen a chocobo this fast.
dan friesen
Number 7,000 was the fastest.
jordan holmes
Something along those lines.
But yeah, it's incredibly fast.
It's very exciting for me.
And that's basically the end of the game.
I rarely ever finally...
I finished the game.
It always ends once I've completed that.
Like, you have to go through all these different things, and it's just so fun.
It's fun.
And it's a sense of achievement, and you develop a relationship.
I name them.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
And it's fantastic.
dan friesen
This sounds exactly like the Chows in Sonic Adventure 2 Battle, which I told you about when you told me you were back on your bullshit.
jordan holmes
Oh, back on my bullshit, my friend.
dan friesen
Back on your Chocobo bullshit.
jordan holmes
Back on my bullshit.
I can't wait to see how they handled Knights of the Round Summon materia in the new remake.
That'll be incredible.
unidentified
Ooh.
Ooh.
dan friesen
Well, I look forward to that on your behalf.
Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to go over.
We're going to be talking about December 31st, 2020.
I'm Dan, this is 2020.
Up to January 1st, 2021.
I'm Dan, this is now 2021.
Confusing.
We're going with the last day of last year and the first day of this year.
jordan holmes
New Year's Eve and New Year's Day.
dan friesen
I gotcha.
Alex did do both of these shows.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And there's, you know...
Some stuff.
jordan holmes
Okay, good for him.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
I found myself, like, I had an interesting experience while I was listening to this.
It was one of those times that I'll listen to this show and I'll be like, alright, Alex.
As I'm listening to it, I'll find myself mystery science theater-ing it.
Kind of like, oh yeah, sure you did.
Sure you did.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I bet.
unidentified
I bet.
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's just a long stretches where I was like, okay, sure.
jordan holmes
Jones, the hands of fate.
dan friesen
Just like nothing was going on for long stretches.
But there is some things that are important to discuss.
jordan holmes
Are we going to get a visit from Torgo?
dan friesen
We may.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
You really shoehorned that in.
jordan holmes
I was trying real hard.
dan friesen
Hands have faded that horned it in.
jordan holmes
Damn it.
Horns have faded it in?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Before we get to today's episode, let's take a moment to say thank you to some folks who signed up and are supporting the show.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Burnt W, thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you, Burnt W. Next, Megan S. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Megan!
dan friesen
Next, Sandra D. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you very much, Sandra D. Next, Ian H. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Ian!
dan friesen
Next, Justin C. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you, Justin C. Next, Reid G. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Reed.
dan friesen
And finally, I'd like to thank you to a couple people who donated on Elevated Level.
We appreciate that very much.
So first, Brianna R. Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
And Dan, I'm so glad you don't have to sell blood anymore.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
We gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimp so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
I got a correction.
I accidentally said, Brianna, it's Brenna.
jordan holmes
Oh, damn it, Dan.
dan friesen
Sorry about that.
I throw in eyes all over the place.
jordan holmes
Redo.
dan friesen
From the top!
jordan holmes
Started from the beginning!
Hey, everybody!
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
dan friesen
And thank you so much, Dan.
I'm so glad you don't have to sell blood anymore.
jordan holmes
I'm not, Dan.
I thought we were far more punk rock when you were selling blood.
We were so fucking cool.
dan friesen
I feel like we had more credibility.
jordan holmes
Totally.
Now that you're comfortable in your single bedroom as we record in your office.
dan friesen
I do.
I mean, I do feel spoiled.
I live a pampered existence now that I don't have to sell blood.
unidentified
So opulent we live.
dan friesen
Anyway, Jordan, today we got an episode.
I found this intro to today's episode, this beginning, this first clip, where Alex is just getting the gears going on New Year's Eve day.
I thought that this was really exciting.
I was wrong, but I got pretty excited by it.
alex jones
Now, what is this?
Well, this really is the equivalent of an intruder cell.
dan friesen
He's talking about the vaccines for COVID-19, just to be clear.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
With an entire genome of multiple species, a chimera, a chimera clone of a human and a jellyfish.
jordan holmes
Love it.
alex jones
Coming in and assimilating your entire body.
The jellyfish is a hive organism, a colony organism.
jordan holmes
Wait, all jellyfishes?
alex jones
It's a colony organism of human genomes.
jordan holmes
Or just this specific jellyfish?
alex jones
Going in and taking over every cell that replicates in your body.
Only thing that will be the original you when it's done is the cells in your eyes and any eggs in a woman's ovaries.
All other cells are to be taken on.
dan friesen
They leave your eyes.
unidentified
It's all happening in the year 2021.
alex jones
It didn't come from some distant galaxy.
It didn't come from some distant Star.
jordan holmes
That came from a different dimension.
alex jones
It didn't come from some faraway planetary system.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
It came from the mad scientists here on our planet.
But it is as alien as a Martian.
It's as alien as somebody from Pluto.
jordan holmes
Why?
alex jones
It's as alien as some single-cell organism in some planet orbiting Alpha Centauri's or Betelgeuse.
jordan holmes
Really?
Are we doing that?
Are we really doing that?
dan friesen
Music's back.
alex jones
Cell intruder, mRNA.
Human cell.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
Object.
alex jones
mRNA.
Take over.
Sure.
Assimilation completed.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
It's pronounced Beetlejuice.
unidentified
Yeah, it is.
jordan holmes
Was there a five-second cut?
Because I heard a difference in the sound.
I think there might have been a cut where he went, Fuck!
dan friesen
No, I don't think so.
I don't think so.
It would be tough to tell, even if you watch the video.
Because, you know, there's overlay of video.
I got really excited there because I was like, oh my god, Alex is doing a goddamn sci-fi speech over dramatic music.
jordan holmes
Hell yeah.
dan friesen
I thought for sure it was like, oh, I'm gonna try.
I'm gonna end this year.
I've been terrible this whole year, but I'm gonna go out on top.
jordan holmes
Might as well.
dan friesen
I am gonna have ambition.
I'm gonna show you guys what I can do.
And I went and I found the video and I was like, no, this is just a meme.
Someone in the engineering room or the producer is just playing a meme that has audio.
It's from the movie The Thing.
And someone has just replaced, just written mRNA over the computer analysis scene.
jordan holmes
Brilliant.
These people are geniuses.
dan friesen
I was a little disappointed, but I still thought it...
jordan holmes
It was a little different.
I wish the right didn't own creativity.
You know?
They're just so goddamn creative.
dan friesen
It's dumb.
And I'm sure it was Count Dankula or whoever the fuck Alex is making his hot memes these days.
jordan holmes
But like...
dan friesen
When I was listening to it, what I got away from it, or what I took from it as an audio thing, was so much more disappointing when I realized it was just a meme that had accidental audio in it.
I thought he was trying.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I really thought so, too.
I thought it was a good choice of music to play behind that little creepy speech.
dan friesen
Beetle Guise!
jordan holmes
The Thing is one of the top ten horror movies of all time, I would say, Beetle Guise.
dan friesen
Better be Goose.
jordan holmes
Man, he had to have realized instantly.
Otherwise, there wouldn't have been such a long pause, right?
He realized instantly that is not how you say it.
dan friesen
I don't think so.
jordan holmes
And then he was trying to find a way.
dan friesen
I think he just ran out of gas.
jordan holmes
That could be.
That could be.
dan friesen
So apparently, top story, people are dying from the coronavirus vaccine.
The COVID-19 vaccine.
jordan holmes
What?
No.
alex jones
They always say the devil is in the old details.
Oh, more deaths, by the way.
Deaths in Spain, deaths in Israel, deaths in Switzerland, deaths, deaths, deaths from the new mRNA genetic takeover systems.
dan friesen
Beetle guise.
alex jones
Folks are taking it, and they're dead in a couple hours.
dan friesen
So, I'm not sure about the supposed death that he's talking about in Spain, but there is an article on his website, at least, that tells you what he's talking about, about the Israel and Switzerland deaths.
The Switzerland death doesn't appear to be related to the vaccine.
And in the case of the person in Israel, it was a 75-year-old man who had cancer and a history of heart attacks.
Doctors believe that though he died shortly after receiving the vaccine, the heart attack that killed him was unrelated to vaccination.
I'm certain that that...
Assumption that the doctors have is something that's going to be examined.
And I'll go ahead and listen to doctors about issues like this, not weirdos who ramble over 80s sci-fi movies to sell dumb pills.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that one's a real...
That requires a bit more of a titanic intellect to get to the bottom of that.
dan friesen
Or if you're going to be like, death's everywhere.
You kind of have a responsibility of proof.
You need a little bit more than a couple of stray cases of people who...
Have conditions that could have not been related to the vaccine?
jordan holmes
I have a question for you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
How many doses of the vaccine worldwide have we got out so far?
dan friesen
Well, there was three.
There was just that one in Spain, that one in Israel, and that one in Switzerland.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
jordan holmes
Well, then two for three is trouble.
unidentified
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
The vaccine rollout is not going well.
dan friesen
I'm going to need Alex to do a little better, and he does not.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, as you may recall, a little while back, someone got canned over at Infowars.
jordan holmes
I believe a lot of people got canned.
dan friesen
Oh, man, David Knight.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Is he back?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
David Knight is still on The Lamb, doing his show on Periscope.
Which I can't imagine ever watching.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
That's where we...
After Alex...
dan friesen
I've been so close.
jordan holmes
After InfoWars goes down, we're going right to David Knight's Periscope.
dan friesen
I've been so close a couple of times to tuning in to see if he's talking shit, and then I just can't do it.
jordan holmes
Just to see if he's talking shit.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Can't pull the trigger.
jordan holmes
You want to see him talk good shit, though.
dan friesen
Yeah, I do.
When he was fired, I made a pronouncement, and that was, who the fuck else do you have there?
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Harrison Smith?
What are you going to do?
Have Harrison Smith host the hours that David Knight was on?
jordan holmes
So he's going to have Harrison Smith host the hours that David Knight was on.
alex jones
And we have the new American Journal, hosted by Harrison Smith, doing a splendid job.
unidentified
There we go.
alex jones
That is a total call-in show.
But the final transmission of the Alex Jones Show of the year 2020.
What a year.
I'd like to get your take on What you think is coming in the new year and what your resolutions are in the new year and what you think our focus should be in the new year.
dan friesen
Great question.
Reading.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That would be a good focus for you, Alex.
Read the articles you cover.
That would be a good start.
jordan holmes
Get an hour away from your recording studio at all times.
That would be my suggestion.
Get an hour away from everywhere.
dan friesen
Get Harrison an hour away, too.
Although, I mean, I've talked a lot of shit about Harrison Smith being an uninteresting bump on a log.
Basically the equivalent of a cardboard cutout of a host.
But, again, what American Journal is trying to be is like a call-in show with a completely neutral host.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's probably the only person who you might be able to, like, he's so boring, he fits that role.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'd say he's their best shot.
dan friesen
He is an upgrade in terms of a boring-o-meter.
alex jones
Yes.
dan friesen
From David Knight.
jordan holmes
Going to the applause-o-meter, we're still at zero, but it's 0.2.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Instead of 0.0.
dan friesen
Also, I went to the American Journal page on band.video.
Because I was thinking about seeing if Alex had been hosting it and I saw that it was Harrison Smith.
I'm like, I'm not even going to fish in this well.
But I did notice it's a little bit...
In your face that American Journal's initials are the same as Alex Jones.
alex jones
Okay.
dan friesen
Just as a big AJ.
jordan holmes
The AJ show.
Not the Alex Jones show.
The American Journal show.
Completely different!
dan friesen
I didn't realize it until I went to the website and I saw those graphics.
I was like, this is a little bit much.
jordan holmes
Put your name on the building.
dan friesen
So we got some people dying of COVID in the last week.
Some celebrities and some high-profile people.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And these are people that Alex needs to push back on.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're globalists or whatever.
alex jones
Well, Luke Letlow just got elected to Congress.
jordan holmes
And then what happened?
alex jones
And then they said he died of COVID.
But what happened is he went in, he tested positive for COVID.
They did a, quote, surgery on him.
He had a heart attack and died.
You've got to read the fine print, but they say he died of a heart attack.
Well, 80-something-year-old Don Wells of Marianne fame of Gilligan's Island, one of my favorite silly shows.
Some earliest memories are watching Gilligan's Island.
Dies of COVID-19 in 82. Complications.
dan friesen
Dumbass Alex Jones probably thought that was a documentary.
These people have been on that island for a long time.
Too bad they can't get off.
jordan holmes
Those rich people seem nice.
dan friesen
I'd like to hang out with them.
And my favorite thing about these people on the island is they're all white.
jordan holmes
They're all ungrateful.
They wouldn't have been there if they weren't for that boat in the first place.
dan friesen
So, Alex is really playing fast and loose with the details of these situations, particularly with that of Luke Letlow, because he knows it's really bad.
And stories like this are really hard for him to spin, and so when that happens, he basically just denies reality as a primary strategy.
Letlow had been elected to Congress to represent the 5th District in Louisiana, but before he could be sworn in, he died at the age of 41 from COVID-19.
The way Alex is presenting the story, it sounds like he just happened to have COVID and he went to get a completely unrelated, quote, surgery, and then died of a heart attack in that surgery, but that is not what happened.
He entered Monroe Hospital on December 19th because of COVID symptoms, and his condition deteriorated quickly, leading to him entering the ICU on December 23rd.
There, he suffered a heart attack that, quote, was refractory to all resuscitation efforts, according to Dr. G.E. Galley.
The New Orleans Time Picayune reported, quote, asked if Letlow had any underlying conditions that would have made his death more likely.
Galley said in a text message, quote, none, all COVID-related.
Alex is lying to his audience about this case to make them less likely to take COVID-19 seriously.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now, as for Don Wells, he better keep her name out of his mouth.
She was a great woman, which I'm basically saying mostly because she was an alum of Stevens College, which is in my hometown of Columbia, Missouri.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
She would come to town regularly and speak with theater students there, and everyone I knew who'd met her and spent time with her really gave me the impression that she cared a lot about being able to give whatever she could to these students, which I always found really admirable.
unidentified
Always.
dan friesen
I've grown up with a deep appreciation for Don Wells, both as someone who...
Sure, she was 82 years old, but from all accounts, including a video she posted around Christmas, she was in really good health until she got COVID-19, at which point things went downhill fast.
From the details that are available, it does not seem outlandish to ascribe her death to COVID.
These are two recent deaths that are high profile and very emotionally resonant, so it's critical and important for Alex to attempt to deny the reality of these deaths to his audience.
Luke Letlow was only 41 years old, and he'd just been elected to a seat in Congress.
He had his life ahead of him, and he was snatched away by COVID.
On the other side, Don Wells was a sweetheart for most of the audience, for their youths, the person that they had a crush on when they were children.
Sure, her passing has the possibility of being emotionally affecting to them in a way that could be unpredictable.
So Alex has got to pretend that all this is bullshit.
And I just hate it.
I hate it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's...
unidentified
How do humans act this despicably?
jordan holmes
You ever wonder?
You know, when he says you can look into the abyss, that old Nietzsche character.
When you can look into the abyss, you know, the Nietzsche.
Yeah, that character.
And then the abyss looks back.
But you don't deny a pandemic.
Isn't that different?
Isn't that different?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Isn't that just too wrong?
dan friesen
There's a small part of me that I suspect that Alex realizes, like, I can't go back.
I've already gone too far down this road.
No matter what, I have to commit to this, because going back looks so dumb.
jordan holmes
What happens if I say, whoops, I've got years.
dan friesen
What if in 2006 he'd been like, you know what?
I was wrong about 9-11.
What kind of a career could he possibly have?
He'd spent so much time insisting 9-11 was an inside job and all this.
If he did that now or at any point, he's like, oh, you know what?
We've got to take COVID real seriously, guys.
Masks are not a sign of slavery.
You should get the vaccine.
You can't do it.
You can't double back.
jordan holmes
It's just so weird, you know, because when you look at the history of capitalism and you see how many times people have had the choice between continuing to make money or doing the responsible thing and saving lives, it's always been saving lives with capitalism.
That's what I've always thought of.
dan friesen
I wonder, I mean, like, you know, you're putting it in terms of, like...
Making money, and I do think that that's a piece of it, but it's also like his whole career is torpedo.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
He's already on the way to that happening slowly by a thousand cuts that mostly are in the shape of a cube.
It would be a disaster for him, and it would invalidate a lot of what he probably would like to be his legacy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I just don't know how you could be in his situation and not See the writing on the wall and seek to control how you go out.
You know?
dan friesen
Narcissism, my man.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's so right.
I wish I could argue with that, but that's 100% correct.
Never mind.
dan friesen
It's just feelings of like...
jordan holmes
I retract all my statements and confirm my ennui.
dan friesen
And think about how many times he's been back against the wall and been able to wiggle out of things.
But you can't...
Something this big, you can't really do that.
It does...
When you're...
Actively calling for the overthrowing of an election and denying a large-scale pandemic that's killing thousands of people a day.
You can't just be like, whoops, I whiffed on that one.
It doesn't work.
jordan holmes
At this point, you have to reframe it in an almost borderline sense of this is the ultimate expression of class warfare.
Poor people are dying at rates infinitely higher.
That's what this is.
Like, I'm amazed that we can't even talk about it in those terms.
dan friesen
That would be an interesting way for Alex to try and approach it.
I mean, it would have the air of populism, certainly.
Oh, well.
jordan holmes
But they do want the poor to die, so it kind of, ugh, up and down.
dan friesen
So you're saying, like, denying the pandemic is really monstrous, and how do people do that?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I agree with you, but I think you're selling Alex short.
He can be worse.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And they're even arresting people now.
That go into the empty hospital.
So I want to be very, very clear.
You need to go show the parking lot empty.
You need to show the receiving area empty.
You can shoot a time lapse.
If they tell you to leave, leave.
But we've got multiple videos of people being arrested in the U.S. and the U.K. when they go into the hospitals.
I don't think it violates TIP.
I don't think it violates privacy.
jordan holmes
I don't think that.
alex jones
The public has a right to know.
jordan holmes
It does.
alex jones
It's covered by whistleblowing.
It's covered by investigative journalism.
jordan holmes
It is not.
dan friesen
No, it is certainly not.
The arrest that Alex is referring to, I don't know what United States person he's talking about, but there's definitely a person in the UK named Debbie Hicks, who is an anti-lockdown protester who showed up at a hospital and recorded people to try and argue that there aren't any COVID-19 patients being treated at Forgive Me in Advance.
Gloucestershire Royal Hospital.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
She got arrested for that video.
jordan holmes
Isn't that Gloucestershire?
dan friesen
Whatever.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
From now on, I'm just mispronouncing places harder.
jordan holmes
Who cares?
dan friesen
2021 is the year of me leaning into mispronouncing place names.
jordan holmes
Hey, come on.
The UK won't even be the UK.
You won't even need to remember how to pronounce United Kingdom.
It's going to be over soon.
dan friesen
Sure.
So yeah, she was videotaping patients who were waiting to see doctors, which is a serious breach of confidentiality and privacy.
This is the case that Alex is referring to.
If he says that he doesn't think that doing what that person is doing is a violation of HIPAA, he is absolutely wrong.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
He's directly telling his audience to behave in ways that would violate the rights of privacy of persons seeking medical care.
He better, like, seriously hope people don't follow through with that and yell Infowars.com in the video because if they do, he might be in trouble.
jordan holmes
I would like...
More people to attribute their crimes to Infowars.com.
dan friesen
See, that could be the double-edged sword of him offering money for people who yell stuff at rallies and yell Infowars.com.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
If they start doing things that he doesn't think are illegal, but probably are.
jordan holmes
If the RV bomber screamed out, Bill Clinton was a rapist before the RV exploded, I think we'd have a little bit more of a clean cut idea.
dan friesen
If that was on the tape.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So, Alex gets back to talking about demons.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He can see them.
alex jones
Newsome with that big jack-o'-lantern demon face.
I'd run from that guy if I saw him in an alley.
He scares me.
People don't have the sight, though.
jordan holmes
What's Newsome doing in that alley?
I would run, too.
alex jones
Killer-level demon.
That's about as bad as they are.
That's Satan's helper right there.
I mean, Cuomo, open demon.
Look at him.
jordan holmes
Open demon.
alex jones
Brian Stelter, open demon.
jordan holmes
Open demon.
alex jones
They've got the look.
dan friesen
They've got the look.
Is that...
Is that a term that I don't know?
jordan holmes
Open demon?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Is that a categorization of demon?
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, it's hard.
At around, you know, anywhere from like 10 to 15, you're going to have to come out as a demon to your parents and it's going to be brutal.
Go to demon...
I got nothing.
dan friesen
I mean, I kind of enjoy Alex's continuing insistence that he can see demons in people.
Although I think if taken not as a joke, it's really scary.
Yeah.
It implies something deeply disturbed.
jordan holmes
What's the look?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Whatever Alex doesn't like.
Oh, the look, actually, it seems to have to do something to do with political beliefs.
Turns out political beliefs can change the way you look to Alex.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
That makes sense.
dan friesen
Oh, weird how it's all super subjective, too.
jordan holmes
It's a lot clearer to me now.
dan friesen
But it's good that you were talking over that, because he does say that people without discernment can't...
jordan holmes
I hate discernment!
dan friesen
Yeah, apparently you need discernment.
jordan holmes
I hate that word.
dan friesen
So speaking of discernment, Alex has it in bucket loads.
jordan holmes
Sure, he does.
alex jones
So I'm going to go back to Robert here and the rest of your calls, but the big news coming up next hour.
Lin Wood files an emergency petition to the U.S. Supreme Court to stop January 5th runoff races in the U.S. Senate in Georgia, which Trump should have done.
Those are sitting in the same fake ballots.
They're engaged in the same fraud again, and if we let them do it, they'll do it again.
dan friesen
So Alex hasn't gotten the memo to ixnay on the Lin Wood.
jordan holmes
Don't vote.
Don't vote!
Don't vote!
dan friesen
No, no, no.
Even beyond that, don't bring up Lin Wood by name.
jordan holmes
I think it's a bad idea.
I think it's a bad idea.
This isn't going to be good for anybody.
It's not smart.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I would say no.
dan friesen
Everyone stopped mentioning Sidney Powell.
We've stopped a lot of this.
We don't want to talk about Krakens anymore.
jordan holmes
I don't like how it seems like everybody can get away with just kind of like letting the detritus fall off the back of the ship.
You know, like Sidney Powell can just be drowned as the boat leaves and Trump and everybody on the boat are fine.
No, she should take the boat down with her!
dan friesen
It seems like cause and effect would lead to that.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm constantly surprised.
jordan holmes
We just watched them, like, throw Sidney Powell off the boat, and we're like, well, the boat's fine, at least.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, like, she shouldn't have been on that boat.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, she was invited on the boat!
dan friesen
I know, but we...
jordan holmes
Sick the boat!
Sick the whole boat!
The whole thing!
dan friesen
We just look at her like, gosh, she shouldn't have been on the boat.
We're glad she's gone on the boat.
unidentified
We're glad she...
No!
dan friesen
No, the whole boat should be gone!
unidentified
Well...
dan friesen
Maybe that makes more sense.
jordan holmes
God damn it!
dan friesen
Speaking of boats...
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
You know who had a lot of boats?
jordan holmes
Alex?
dan friesen
No.
Well, yes, but more.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Actually, guess.
jordan holmes
Guess how many boats or who it is?
dan friesen
No, no, no.
A group that would have a lot of boats.
jordan holmes
A group that would have a lot of boats.
dan friesen
So many boats.
jordan holmes
North Korea.
dan friesen
No.
They may not have existed.
jordan holmes
A group that may not have existed.
dan friesen
Yes.
unidentified
Had they existed, would indeed surely have had a lot of votes.
dan friesen
But I think Alex thinks they definitely existed.
jordan holmes
Okay, alright.
I got nothing then.
dan friesen
The Atlanteans.
alex jones
And so it's a private corporate world government whose endgame is depopulation of the planet.
Sure.
And the establishment will then merge with machines and become this new evolved creature.
Now whether they're going to get away with that or whether that's going to work, I don't know.
The Bible says they're going to try to do it and it's going to fail.
unidentified
Does the Bible say that?
alex jones
They destroy most of the Earth, which they say happened with Atlantis before.
So things, I guess, repeat themselves.
unidentified
Who's they?
dan friesen
Who says that's what happened with Atlantis?
jordan holmes
I believe the Disney movie Atlantis.
dan friesen
Did even the Disney movie say that the elites were trying to become robot immortals or whatever?
jordan holmes
No, they were already robot immortals in the Disney movie.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Maybe, I mean, there's some Assassin's Creed in here, I think.
jordan holmes
I think the narrative would be improved with Michael J. Fox.
I just think that's just true.
dan friesen
Look, Alex is broke or in prison one day.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I finally get to sit, I pick up the phone across from the plexiglass.
jordan holmes
You've got your little prison-approved crayon in your other hand.
dan friesen
The only thing I want to know, do you think Atlantis is real?
jordan holmes
Wait, I thought you were gonna...
I thought we had a lot to talk about.
No, you covered my show.
dan friesen
Only fucking question.
unidentified
Do you really think Atlantis is real?
alex jones
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Because you know it's fucked up.
I mean, we've talked about this a bunch.
I love Atlantis.
jordan holmes
Oh, you love Atlantis.
dan friesen
I think it's a wonder...
Again, maybe it's because I had that time growing up in the islands.
The call of the island is strong.
jordan holmes
You're an info-laurier, if you will.
dan friesen
Sure.
I would never argue that it...
It was real?
jordan holmes
Are you sure it wasn't real?
dan friesen
No.
I love thinking about it.
I like the ideas.
I like a lot of the sort of themes that have come from it.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Where would you think it was, were it...
Santorini?
Santorini.
That's where you're going.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
A lot of people say a lot of different things.
dan friesen
I think it's...
jordan holmes
I think most people assume that they meant the Mediterranean at the beginning, and then everybody, the world got bigger, and they were like, ooh, that's not going to look good.
So it's probably in the ocean somewhere.
dan friesen
It's over by the Plateau of Leng.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which is from...
robert barnes
Sure.
dan friesen
I think it's from Lovecraft's Dream Cycle.
jordan holmes
I like it.
dan friesen
So, Alex in the past has asserted that the Trump...
One of his kids, one of Trump's kids, asked Alex to investigate Dominion.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And Alex got a crack team of sleuths on it, and they uncovered from SEC filings that the state of China had given Dominion $400 million or something along those lines.
jordan holmes
Yes, they did say they discovered that.
dan friesen
We've talked about this already on a past episode, but spoiler alert, that was a QAnon post that Alex had found, and he had taken credit for...
jordan holmes
Crack team of sleuths.
dan friesen
He's still claiming that Trump's son told him to do it.
jordan holmes
Hell yeah.
alex jones
What's crazy is the White House knows this.
I got asked by one of the Trump sons about a week into the election when I went out in Arizona.
They said, I want you to talk to this guy.
This guy calls up and he works for a big company and he says, we want you to look into where they get the money for Staples Streets and for Dominion, its subcompany.
And so I went and hired a company, took them three weeks, and they found the LLCs in Switzerland, and the $400 million on October 7th of this year, 2020, being sent to Dominion by the Communist Party.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I only play that to, like, demonstrate that Alex has really not given up on that narrative.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he should let that one go.
unidentified
Which is really sad.
jordan holmes
He should let that one go.
dan friesen
Well, it's just sad to look at, because I think the part about the Dominion and the documents and stuff seems to be less important than Trump's son sent me on a mission.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's very proud of that thing that didn't happen.
dan friesen
Yeah, that part is really what is sadder about this.
jordan holmes
He's puffing his chest out about a thing that definitely didn't happen.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Boy, no.
No, it's not.
So he takes a number of calls on the show.
I will give it up to Alex on this front.
jordan holmes
For winning the bronze at the Nagano Olympics, which he also totally did?
dan friesen
Yes.
He set out to take more calls, and he achieved that.
I don't know if they fixed the phone lines or it was coincidence, but there weren't any big fuck-ups in the calls.
Like, it actually worked, kind of.
But the calls are largely boring.
jordan holmes
Well.
dan friesen
Now, this one guy.
Does call in.
And he wants to talk about hand sanitizer.
jordan holmes
Sure!
I'm here for that conversation.
I would like a hand sanitizer conversation.
dan friesen
This bums me out because this is just a clip of, like, why does Alex ask people questions?
alex jones
The hand sanitizers.
Hand gel.
Mass use to create new superbugs, scientists warns.
And a bunch of other articles about how it lowers your fertility, sterilizes you, makes you sick, and kills your good bacteria.
Explain that to people.
unidentified
Well...
What happens is it messes up your hormones because of the antibacterial.
You want some good bacteria on your body that actually heals you.
alex jones
It turns out that the solid parts of our body, something like a third of us is bacteria.
And Bill Gates knows that and studies it.
He loves you, though.
dan friesen
I don't know why he asks people...
jordan holmes
That's a weird noise.
dan friesen
Yeah, it is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't like that noise at all.
dan friesen
I don't know why he asks people questions.
He just immediately interrupts them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, that was a terrible answer that deserved interrupting.
dan friesen
I don't disagree.
jordan holmes
It's still rude.
dan friesen
Still not a good host behavior.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
So Alex is operating there at the end off old, disproven scientific estimates.
In 2016, researchers examined the previously accepted ideas about the ratio of human cells to bacteria in the body, and they found that there was a serious lack of backing for what had been up to that point considered conventional thinking.
Previously, it was accepted as possible that microorganisms outnumbered human cells 10 to 1 in our bodies, but these researchers were able to trace this back solely to an estimate from a 1972 paper in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
adult bodies, but it's still only 0.3% of your body.
jordan holmes
I was waiting for you to be like, they traced it back to Pliny the Elder, and all of a sudden Was he around in 72?
Centaurs aren't real, so we've learned a lot today.
dan friesen
This is just stupid shit where Alex is trying to scare his audience and sound smart.
There's definitely reasons why people shouldn't overdo it with antibacterial hand soap and sanitizers, just for the sake of, you know, you don't want to.
But like, what, does he never take antibiotics then?
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, never.
dan friesen
Seems unwise.
jordan holmes
People like this shouldn't be allowed to enjoy the benefits of the future.
If you're telling me that hand sanitizer, then you can't have anything.
You can't have antibiotics.
You can't have probiotics.
You can't have your pills.
You can't have any of this shit.
Because it's all based on the same shit!
dan friesen
Yeah, you can't eat yogurt.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you can't have yogurt!
No penicillin!
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, I think Alex would be fine with it.
No, maybe not.
It's tough to say.
unidentified
Although...
jordan holmes
I would like him to slowly be eaten alive by a foot fungus.
That would be interesting.
dan friesen
Well, that could never happen because he takes his vitamins.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
alex jones
It's good to wash your hands, Sam, when you've been shaking a bunch of hands, whatever you never know, just because some people might have some bacteria that your body doesn't like.
jordan holmes
Wash your damn hands!
alex jones
With your wife or people you know, we all make each other stronger.
More bacteria is better.
God bless you.
Again, if you have all the vitamins and minerals you need, you basically cannot get...
Communicable diseases.
Viruses can't replicate.
Bacteria can't take over if you're healthy.
dan friesen
Wow.
That is an irresponsible take.
jordan holmes
Just say you can pray out disease, Christ.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, prayer and vitamins.
He's basically Hulk Hogan.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Any carrots you'll be able to see.
dan friesen
Dr. Bolia on the radio here.
jordan holmes
I hate people.
dan friesen
Boy, and man, does Alex knock it out of the park with science on this episode.
alex jones
You know, we're genetically very similar to rats.
We're more genetically similar to a rat or a pig than we are to a chimpanzee.
jordan holmes
Why do you think that?
alex jones
Some weird stuff going on, folks.
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
That's weird stuff.
jordan holmes
Why do you think that?
alex jones
Why?
dan friesen
It's not true.
jordan holmes
How could you say that out loud?
dan friesen
Oh, it's not true.
unidentified
It is not true.
jordan holmes
You just can't believe...
We're actually more genetically similar to rats and pigs than the thing that we literally directly evolved from.
dan friesen
We're more similar to sticks than we are to each other.
jordan holmes
Fine.
Whatever.
Say words.
Words, words, words.
dan friesen
We are shockingly close to a lot of animals, and that's because there are a lot of...
Things that are in common with us and animals.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Because we're animals.
Because we are them.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We're mammals.
dan friesen
And there's a theorized common ancestor way, way, way, way, way back.
And a lot of those DNA...
jordan holmes
All 6,000 years back or...
dan friesen
About 4,000.
jordan holmes
About 4,000?
unidentified
Okay, good.
dan friesen
And a lot of those DNA, a lot of that does the same things.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Expresses in similar ways.
But then certain mutations and such can then express in different ways and what's more survivable in any given environment would then kind of win out over time and those genes would continue to propagate until the cycle happens all over again and over and over and over again for billions of years.
Right, Dan?
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And that's how a rat became a human.
jordan holmes
Ah, shit!
dan friesen
So Alex is talking to this caller, another caller, and it turns out that I think the globalists have another plan that we didn't know about.
jordan holmes
Plan C?
dan friesen
It might be Plan D. No!
I don't know what plan this is anymore.
alex jones
But their plan is the Hunger Games.
People see that and think, oh, that's a woman talking about the UN.
No, that's actually predicted programming.
The actual plan the UN wants is a Hunger Games scenario.
I read a UN biological diversity assessment.
Report put out in the late 70s that Dr. Michael Kaufman told me about for Endgame, for Endgame 2.0.
And in that, it says we're going to bring back regions, we're going to bring back games like the Olympics, and we're going to bring back a caste system, and people have to live in rural areas and have no technology, or they'll live in these smart cities, highly controlled, and we're going to bring back human sacrifice.
At these games.
And we're going to have floating fortresses with UN troops.
Everyone will be disarmed.
And the global forces will be delivered by giant airships.
dan friesen
I think that's Elysium.
I would say...
jordan holmes
I think that was The Winter Soldier?
dan friesen
I'm fucking tired of The Globalist having so many plans.
jordan holmes
They have got to just pick one and stick to it.
dan friesen
I'm so sick of this shit.
jordan holmes
Execute your goddamn plan.
dan friesen
This is why they're 10 years behind.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
Just finish one.
Finish one.
It's like a weird dad in a hobby.
Every week, there's a new thing he does in the garage.
dan friesen
It's like me back when I was trying to write short stories.
Like, I'd get two pages in.
Fuck it.
I'm done.
Yeah, hey, globalists, I thought your plan was orderly, killing off of people within a few years.
And then if Alex is too good at his job, then there's plan B with a super bioweapon, but that's not very good because it's not as fun for the globalists.
They like order.
They wanted plan A. Yeah, they like to do things in an organized way.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But apparently they want to bring about the Hunger Games.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Which doesn't seem like extermination.
It seems like a situation where people are living in destitution while the elites live opulently and then people kill for entertainment.
I haven't seen those movies, but I did see Battle Royal.
Yeah, that's basically the same thing.
I figure it's the same thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
With slightly more story, maybe.
jordan holmes
I mean, I might even go the opposite direction.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I would say...
jordan holmes
Why doesn't he ever...
Like, I want him to just really dig into the weeds and start doing...
Like, don't give me this popular bullshit that's written for young adults.
Give me hard sci-fi...
Tell me that it's going to be like a Heinlein book or fucking...
Do you know what the globalist plan is?
Snow Crash!
That's what it's...
It's all about Neil Stevenson now!
That's what's going on!
Let's do that!
dan friesen
That's 2023.
He's got to rebrand.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
He's got to leave pockets of sci-fi untouched for when he needs to find a new testament, more or less.
jordan holmes
Then we'll get to seven eves.
That's when it'll happen.
dan friesen
I'm so sick and tired of this shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's just, like, I want a coherent, like, narrative.
jordan holmes
Something.
dan friesen
The bad guys are supposed to be working on the behalf of the fucking devil.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's not a new character.
jordan holmes
Whom you can see.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You can see him.
dan friesen
Open demons.
jordan holmes
If they've got the look.
dan friesen
If they're open demons.
jordan holmes
If they're open demons.
Closed demons, different story.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's tough.
I would say that...
Been studying them 27 years.
The plan shouldn't keep changing around.
unidentified
Well, they have to.
dan friesen
Here's the bottom line.
I'm playing games here.
I'm playing Hunger Games.
jordan holmes
Nice.
dan friesen
David Icke talks about the Hunger Games stuff all the time.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
And so Alex is just ripping off David Icke because he's really into him right now.
jordan holmes
So annoying.
dan friesen
But yeah, it's more annoying in terms of like, I can't even trust Alex to be pretending to be serious about this.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's just, this is where I'm at like, oh yeah, sure, okay, mm-hmm, yeah, I bet, I bet.
jordan holmes
I feel like I'm reading the first third of a new novel every week and never finishing it, and it's infuriating.
It's infuriating.
dan friesen
Yeah, and at points it's kind of scary.
It's a little scary, like this.
alex jones
Better raise your ears.
Lock up your wives and children now.
unidentified
Lock up your children now.
Now you've got your company.
alex jones
The horsemen are drawing there.
Let us deeds they ride.
unidentified
And they're coming to take your life.
alex jones
Someone ask you right now, what are you going to do about it?
You're not going to roll over, are you?
Because that doesn't protect you.
unidentified
Choose your fate now.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
alex jones
Take it in your hands.
You've been dying just the day you were born.
You know it's all been planned.
unidentified
Stop living on your knees.
alex jones
Fight on your feet.
You know it's all been planned.
A sinner once, a sinner twice.
You need no confessions now.
unidentified
You got the fight of your life now.
Just like all those children fought for their lives when those doctors chopped them up.
alex jones
You're gonna have to fight now.
You let the enemy go over the wall.
unidentified
We all let our own species down.
alex jones
And now we're gonna be punished.
And make no mistake, the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, the Bill Gateses of the world, they will go into the fire as well.
And their destruction will be the most painful and agonizing ever.
They will be judged!
Every man and every woman will be forced to kneel in front of God.
dan friesen
I just, I find myself, like, you know, while I'm sitting here not being able to take Alex seriously about just about anything he's saying, now getting into this, like, performative rant where it's like, sort of, you know, it's song lyrics, but it's also, in the context of his show, basically terrorist edging.
Just trying to get people, like, ramped up to commit acts of violence.
You've been dying anyway.
You know, like all that shit.
And then it gets into, like, you pair that with forced religious imagery.
It's like, I can't stand this stuff.
I don't think I've ever encountered in my life a time when, like, religiosity matched with, like, open violence is a good combo.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Historically, just going back through my Rolodex of Second Crusade, that was, no, that wasn't a good one.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Fifth Crusade, that didn't go well.
No, no, usually bad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're gonna have to go with that.
dan friesen
It just, I know this is performative, and I know that Alex, like, he doesn't even, he thinks this is a joke.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, he's fucking with his audience.
Like, and I can tell, because, like, listen to this.
alex jones
President, pretender-elect, Joe Biden can act powerful all day long, but he's a nobody.
And he will be brought low.
He will be broken.
He will beg.
The Almighty.
And God will tell him the door is closed.
You are damned to hell.
jordan holmes
Cool, then leave him alone till then.
alex jones
Damn to hell.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
But Joe Biden knows he's damned to hell.
jordan holmes
Cool.
alex jones
He just wants to take you where they...
jordan holmes
Ooh.
alex jones
So thank your lucky stars every day that you're not Joe Biden or Bill Gates or any of these people who are prepared for their own annihilation and are just trying to drag us down with them.
All right, let's go back to your phone calls here.
jordan holmes
All right.
We're getting back to phone calls on the 9, 640 AM.
unidentified
And all right, our next topic today is who's going to burn in the fires of hell?
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm going to pretend to really care about this, but it's all an act.
I'm putting on a fucking spooky voice to scare you and get you excited about Joe Biden burning in hell.
jordan holmes
Give it away.
dan friesen
Free tickets.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Anyways, what are we up to?
dan friesen
Aerosmith's coming to the pavilion.
Yeah, this is so stupid.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, what do you think is a good reason to overthrow the government?
Taxation without representation is one from American history.
jordan holmes
Right.
I was going to go with Real Bad Thursday.
Thursdays are usually pretty rough.
dan friesen
You just got to take a nap, man.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Well, a nap would also work.
Let's see.
dan friesen
I will say that in terms of...
jordan holmes
Slavery is a good one.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I'm pretty sure Haiti had the right idea.
dan friesen
I would say that those are both better than what this caller is going through.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This caller wants to overthrow the federal government.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
And I will say that their grievance list...
Small.
unidentified
Okay.
And I really just called you because we're just getting sick and tired of it, man.
I had to go to my girlfriend's Christmas celebration with masks on to be away from everybody.
No!
And I really think this area is ready to not have a federal government anymore.
alex jones
Oh, I agree, but I mean, I would speak out at that Christmas party and show people the evidence of fraud and how masks cause bacterial pneumonia.
jordan holmes
Privileged piece of shit.
unidentified
I tried, man, and just because they think they're nurses, they think they know everything.
alex jones
Well, you know, most of the nurses say that it's all a fraud and a scam.
So these must be really young nurses.
unidentified
One is her grandma, and one of them is like a 30-year-old woman.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
unidentified
They're both pretty liberal.
They both voted for Biden.
alex jones
Well, no, I mean, that's it.
No, no, they know it's about their power, and they're making everybody wear a burka.
dan friesen
So Alex has realized, like, oh, no, I've set out this talking point that all the nurses are against the vaccine, but these two nurses are for it, so they must be young.
Oh, wait, they're not young.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
Oh, they must be really liberal, because that's how they want to express their power.
Just don't go to the Christmas party, you dick.
jordan holmes
It's like he's got a check down list of like, oh, this must be the most of it.
Nope.
Okay.
It's like he's a fucking psychic.
It's like you go to that psychic and they're like, oh, I see some loss in your past.
No, I haven't lost anybody.
Ah, but you're going to lose.
I mean, like, fuck off, man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And in order to trick you from realizing that they've been wrong about a bunch of things, usually this mentalist will switch topics a little bit.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex does that by talking about these nurses and gender roles.
alex jones
And I'm not putting women down.
Some women, statistically, are as mathematically smart as men.
They are more aggressive than men.
They're more dynamic.
On average, men are more mathematical.
Men are more aggressive.
Men don't bow as much.
Men have been taught to be domesticated slugs, but their wives and girlfriends work for them.
And women have been taught to comply with the system.
And so that's why we're being led into bondage by women.
Just as the Bible says will happen in the end times.
But that's not women's fault.
That's men's fault for not being leaders.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
alex jones
Wow.
jordan holmes
Wild.
Wild stuff.
dan friesen
Oh my god.
jordan holmes
You ever hear somebody just start saying something and then you're like, oh my god, you actually believe that?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's insane.
That's an insane thing you just said.
You should be slapped in the face.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's outrageous.
jordan holmes
You should be slapped in the face.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's basically saying that women, by leading, are fucking everything up, but it's not their fault.
Men should have put them in their place.
jordan holmes
Yep.
unidentified
Yep.
What the fuck?
jordan holmes
Just come out and be like, I don't think we should have given them the right to vote.
Just say it!
dan friesen
I would bet that he would think that's creeping communism.
Of course!
Worry around back then.
jordan holmes
Why would you give women the right to vote?
They're just going to vote the way their husbands do.
Duh!
dan friesen
You're just going to double all existing votes already.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
We don't even need to worry about it!
dan friesen
So, that was shocking.
I mean, it's not shocking.
jordan holmes
No, that's not shocking at all.
dan friesen
It's shocking in its bluntness, I guess.
unidentified
Hey, welcome back to Harrison Smith, and I'm down for the casual misogyny hour.
jordan holmes
Everybody, what are we doing this morning?
dan friesen
Women should not have rights!
So, we got one last caller here on this New Year's Eve show.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And this guy has got an interesting idea about what to do on the 6th.
Because they're doing this rally, right?
Down in D.C. Yes, they are.
This guy's got a novel idea.
unidentified
Just wanted to touch bases with you with the March on D.C. or the occupation of D.C. I think that you...
I'm going to talk to all the Cajun Navy and all these people that did boat parades for the past...
Three to four months.
We need to have every single one of those people plug up the Potomac.
alex jones
That is a genius idea!
unidentified
It's a genius idea!
Well, I can set out some Facebook posts and stuff.
dan friesen
Okay, good.
jordan holmes
We're going to get some Facebook posts going.
dan friesen
To the Cajun Navy.
Plug up the Potomac.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Yes.
I am fine with these plans.
These are my favorite plans.
Pick something stupid and stick to it.
dan friesen
Like, it's just going to inconvenience you guys.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
You're going to sink each other.
jordan holmes
They're stupid.
Yes.
dan friesen
Somebody's going to accuse a boat of being Antifa.
Everybody's going to drown.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
It's going to be a mess.
jordan holmes
They're so stupid.
I don't like being taken over by the dumbest people on the planet, Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah, this plan is too complicated for y 'all.
jordan holmes
Yes!
It's unfortunate that I want to, like, in an almost parental way, just be like, and here's how you overthrow the government, guys.
This is a terrible...
No, shit!
I couldn't have...
Oh, goddammit.
dan friesen
So I would say that the New Year's Eve day show and the New Year's Day show themselves are not, like, really...
That's special.
There's not really a feeling of new beginnings.
Alex does ask on the 31st for people to call in and say their New Year's resolutions.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
There's not much meaningful shit there.
unidentified
I resolve to overthrow the government.
dan friesen
By boat!
So, we get to the first, and it's just another show.
It's not like a New Year's show.
There's no bells or whistles about it, except an amazing roster of guests.
And Alex realizing it's probably going to be impossible for Trump to win this election.
alex jones
The head of Roger Stone with Major Exclusive Information joining us, and Robert Barnes with Major Exclusive Information.
He's been working since the election for President Trump.
Going all across the country.
dan friesen
You've got to stop saying that.
alex jones
He was there in Georgia with us and other areas, but he was off the radar then.
jordan holmes
Sure he was.
alex jones
And he can really give you the serious path to victory that Trump still has, but it is a narrowing window like an Indiana Jones Raiders of the Lost Ark where he rolls under as the wall lowers down and closes and reaches through and grabs his whip right as it slams shut.
I mean, it's like a Robin Hood shot now.
Of firing the arrow and splitting the arrow.
You know, I've actually done that quite a few times.
Get the fuck out!
jordan holmes
Shut the fuck up!
unidentified
Shut the fuck up!
jordan holmes
Just shut the fuck up!
Shut up!
dan friesen
There's a little brag.
A little unnecessarily bragging.
jordan holmes
I couldn't handle that one.
I'm sorry for screaming, but that was just too much.
That was just too much.
I've heard him say too much shit.
dan friesen
There is something nonsensical about him being like, alright, I'm going to come up with an example of an incredibly difficult thing to do, which, by the way, I've done a bunch of times.
jordan holmes
So easily.
God damn it, I hate him so much.
dan friesen
What a dick.
jordan holmes
I've listened to him say he can do too much shit.
dan friesen
You can't Forrest Gump your way into I'm Robin Hood 2. I've got a bad news.
No, I doubt it.
So, this is probably my second favorite thing on this January 1st episode.
I will say, we end with...
Fantastic.
It may be worth the episode on its own.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I'm not talking about Roger Stone.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
But this, this was a little much for me in a way that I enjoy.
It's good, but it's a little much.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
The social engineers have noticed that most people, when they're part of a crime, when they're part of something corrupt, when they get manipulated into doing something wrong, they don't say they're wrong.
They decide to get even more delusional and to sign on to even more excesses and more extremes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
And there's many examples of this that you could point out throughout history, but it's a well-known phenomenon.
jordan holmes
Right in front of you.
alex jones
And the one that I've personally experienced with co-workers and even not distant family, but not really close family.
jordan holmes
No, you.
alex jones
I'm very embarrassed about it.
jordan holmes
You specifically.
alex jones
Is online scams.
Everybody knows about Nigerian email scams.
They're one of the most popular, one of the most prolific, but there's lots of groups doing it.
And you get an email that, hey, the royal bloodline of Prince Abubu wants to give you $1,000.
He's got money locked up, millions in this bank account, but he is unable because of sanctions to get it out or whatever.
If you'll just give him $1,000...
You will be given $20,000.
And when you give them the $1,000, they go, well, he's ready to give you even more money, but he needs $5,000 more, but now he's going to give you a half million.
And usually most people, once they've given $1,000, they don't want to admit they got conned.
They give the larger amount.
And then if you've already given them like $20,000, $30,000, a Cadillac will pull up at your house because they've got...
You know, some of the guys in the scam all over the country, they'll be in royal robes and say, I am the representative of Prince Abubu.
He thanks you graciously.
Let's make a phone call to him.
And he will graciously thank you from Nigeria.
And then some people will mortgage their house to give $100,000 to Prince Abubu.
Because now Prince Abubu is going to give you $50 million.
And again, I knew a guy, a GCN talk show host, that said, I'm being offered $100,000 by Nigerians.
I've already given him $5,000.
And I called the guy and I said, that's a scam, bro.
Are you joking?
Or are you part of this?
And he said, screw you.
You're just jealous.
I'm going to get all this money.
And then he actually got ripped off.
jordan holmes
As opposed to the other possibility?
alex jones
As a radio host.
dan friesen
I'm...
unidentified
It's certain Alex has to be talking about himself.
jordan holmes
He's the only person who could be talking about it.
dan friesen
He's so uncreative about like, oh, this guy was a GCN radio host.
jordan holmes
So many details.
dan friesen
I guess the alternative is, hey, Alex should wrestle with the fact that his buddy Ted Anderson would hire a guy and have him as a host to someone who would fall for the Nigerian email scam that hard.
I don't know if I've ever heard of anybody having a car pull up and in person Scammers show up.
jordan holmes
I've never seen that one.
dan friesen
No, because they know that that would probably be a sting.
jordan holmes
It would be a bad idea.
dan friesen
For the scammers to show up?
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because if you're scamming over long distance.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Maybe even in another country.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
This is a bad idea.
I wouldn't do that if I were them.
dan friesen
This isn't something that escalates to, like, let's do this in person.
Because there's no reason to.
jordan holmes
No, you understand that that would be, like, the only way that could work is if a reverse scam of the scammers was possible, where they're like, holy shit, we're gonna get so much money out of this guy, we gotta show up at his place.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
That's the same scam in reverse!
dan friesen
Yeah.
I actually did some looking into this.
I read the page on the FBI's website about this scam.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Like, you know, the warning signs and stuff.
I read a couple other things.
I can't find any information.
I don't know.
That doesn't seem like...
It seems like a different scam.
jordan holmes
We should hire somebody to show up at Alex's house.
Just a Nigerian prince.
dan friesen
Well, I gotta...
He does always say Prince of Boo-Boo, and I know that that...
Feels racist.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
And he is a racist.
unidentified
It is.
dan friesen
It feels like that could just be a name he's making up, but he always uses that name.
jordan holmes
It's very specific.
unidentified
It's the name of...
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, isn't it from Aladdin?
Isn't that the insult name that Jafar, he calls him Prince Abubu?
dan friesen
Oh, does he?
jordan holmes
Yes, he does.
dan friesen
Oh, shit.
I didn't realize that.
I haven't seen that in a long time.
jordan holmes
I'm pretty sure that's what it was.
dan friesen
I know he's Ali Ababwa, right?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So then he insults his name like this.
Interesting.
I don't know why that pull is so easy for me.
dan friesen
Well, I don't know.
I haven't seen it in a long time.
And it does make sense that something would come from a movie.
That makes sense.
Alright, we've sorted this out.
Alex has almost certainly been scammed by that.
unidentified
I don't know about the car, though.
dan friesen
That seems like he might have just dreamt it.
jordan holmes
That seems his embellishment kind of storytelling style, but everything else seems very suspiciously accurate.
dan friesen
So this vaccine, you know what it is?
It's the mark of the beast.
jordan holmes
Again?
alex jones
This is the whole world government agenda.
This is the mark of the beast.
This is the tracking system.
This is it.
And yes, Trump has failed at this critical juncture, on this critical issue.
He has gone along with it.
And I...
I thought he was doing that to take control of the agenda from them.
dan friesen
Because I made that up.
alex jones
It's partially they've done.
And I understand that Trump's not a scientist.
It doesn't matter.
Trump won the election.
Democrats are trying to steal it.
They want him out of the way because Joe Biden is 500 times worse.
dan friesen
So I support Trump.
Yeah, all that stuff about, like, Trump is putting out the Pfizer vaccine to cut off Bill Gates with his mRNA.
I was just making all that stuff up.
I was just talking shit.
Because I needed to find a way to support Trump, even though he was in favor of the vaccine.
So I had to do that.
That was the only way that I could really thread the needle.
And now I look like an idiot, so I pretend I never said that.
But I do have to...
I mean, my callers do know that I said that Trump was trying to play 3D chess or 4D chess with the vaccine.
So now I've got to be like, ah, well, Trump is wrong on this.
Uh-oh, he gave us the mark of the beast.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
But you gotta support him, because Biden would give you 50 marks of the beast.
jordan holmes
Love it.
I love it.
dan friesen
So dumb.
jordan holmes
I just love how stupid it is.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And literally...
dan friesen
What good does...
jordan holmes
Literally immediately after he's talking about how people will double down rather than admit they got conned, he's literally doing exactly that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Except he conned himself.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He is both the recipient and the sender of the Nigerian scam email.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I think, you know...
jordan holmes
Which also wouldn't surprise me too much if that was true in real life as well.
Metaphorically and literally.
A Nigerian scam email.
dan friesen
I find it difficult to understand what you gain by having Trump in office if Trump being in office still facilitated the rise of the devil.
If the goal is averting the Mark of the Beast and Trump ushered everyone into and did not protect you from the Mark of the Beast or whatever, it seems like he sucks and you shouldn't support him either.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
That would make sense.
I think if I was in government, I would officially name something the Mark of the Beast just because I'm so sick of everything being the Mark of the Beast.
dan friesen
Oh yeah, like the Mark of the Beast Act or something?
jordan holmes
Yeah, something like that.
Just literally like, hey.
Guess what?
This is your lucky day, Christians.
This is the mark of the beast.
dan friesen
And it would just be like a bill to name a library or something.
jordan holmes
Totally.
Absolutely.
And then we wouldn't have to deal with all this, well, the vaccine's the mark of the beast.
Well, the barcode's the mark of the beast.
Well, your phone's the mark of the beast.
I'm sick of it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Alex takes a bunch of calls on this show, too.
Like, I think he's just sort of like, yeah, let's just take all easy content.
Whatever.
jordan holmes
That's kind of a vacation.
dan friesen
These people are tough to deal with.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fair.
That's not a vacation.
dan friesen
I would not consider it a vacation talking to Alex's audience.
Fair enough.
This guy is terrified.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
Just want to let you know, I used to call in as Jason from Germany, but I had to get my family out of Germany, brought them back to the States after Trump was re-elected because...
alex jones
I remember, you've been calling for, what, four or five years?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
I've been listening longer than that, but I had to get my family out because of the invasion, which you're well aware of.
alex jones
The Islamic invasion?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
Brought my family here, back to my home state of Oregon, which I love and wanted to put down roots in on Porchlands.
You know, it didn't work out here.
The West Coast appears to have become aligned with Chinese interests more than anything else.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
Wow, dude, you are fucking up your whole life.
dan friesen
This guy had to flee Germany because apparently the Muslims have invaded Germany.
He gets home to the West Coast only to find that it is under Chinese control.
This guy can't catch a break.
jordan holmes
This is our modern-day Odysseus.
That is what we're dealing with right here.
He gets home only to find that his wife has left him.
dan friesen
I honestly also kept thinking while I was listening to this, I don't know, maybe it's just the mood I'm in, but I kept thinking, grow up.
Just to everybody.
To Alex, to these callers.
Just grow the fuck up.
What are you guys doing?
Well...
jordan holmes
It's just too much LARPing.
It's all LARPing.
It's so, like, I get it.
Real life is often boring.
It's repetitive.
Not much is going on, especially now.
But you can't live like you're in a fucking spy movie and the Muslims are invading Germany.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Come on, man.
dan friesen
I think a certain amount of it is probably motivated by people recognizing how difficult a time in history this is, and how relatively easy some people have it, and needing to not feel the guilt of that.
And so you take that and you sort of transform it into...
Well, obviously the Chinese run the West Coast.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
And I better run away from the Chinese occupied territory.
jordan holmes
Fine.
dan friesen
Right, because that's the way you can experience some of the actual pain that so many other people are living in without having to actually face it.
jordan holmes
Or feel like you're sharing pain with people who you actively are told to hate.
dan friesen
Or recognize that you are a part of the system that maintains that status quo.
Totally.
I guess it's more fun this way.
So Alex takes another call, and this guy is really laying it out there, what InfoWars is all about.
unidentified
I know it's a little off-subject, but you would be one of the best preachers if you could just take maybe, I don't know what day you do it on, but maybe once a week, once a month.
But you were the person that got me through politics to finally accept Jesus as my Savior.
I'm not trying to say that to be silly.
It's really true.
It was first politics, but I did realize that, you know, before we wrestle not against flesh and blood, against principalities, powers, you know how it goes, you know.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is the second call within these two days.
I didn't even cut the first one because it was just kind of like, well, it's just another person saying that Alex brought him to God.
But it is a bunch, like two people within two days calling in being like, You threw politics, you Trojan-horsed religion to me.
And that's, I mean, hey, look, if people want to be religious, like I always try and say, I'm not against religion.
I find this to be a fraud.
I find this to be a con that Alex is doing.
Where it's this extremist version of Christianity, maybe in quotes, that you can arrive to by way of extreme right-wing politics.
You know what?
It's not even really religion.
It's still politics.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
But it has the verve and the zeal of religiosity, wherein now all of your political enemies are demons.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And you can see it because you have discernment now.
Right.
It's a two-staged charade.
jordan holmes
I mean, religion is the escalation of political violence in just that sense of like...
Oh, my purpose is so much bigger, you know?
I used to be politically active where I wanted to affect the country and the government and the way my city was run, but now I'm not just affecting that, I'm affecting the world.
And I'm not just affecting the world, I'm affecting the entire universe.
dan friesen
Right, right, right.
That is a path that that can go.
That is not what religion is entirely.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, absolutely not.
dan friesen
But yes, that is a way that it can manifest.
And it's really a bummer.
Particularly because you're seeing these people are just living in a completely different world than everyone else.
Like, this guy had to flee Germany because the Muslims invaded and the Chinese are running the West Coast.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no.
Prosperity gospel preachers should be immediately arrested and imprisoned for life.
Like, every part of that is fucked.
dan friesen
Yeah, and then listen to this.
Alex is like, this is the kind of reality that Alex wants to live in and wants to perpetuate for his audience.
alex jones
I told you 16 years ago that a friend of mine is a big movie producer, was talking to James Cameron.
And James Cameron said, yeah, we were going to roll out new movie theaters where you sit in a circle around it, and it's a hologram.
But the decision was made in the future, there won't even be movies anymore.
So I'm moving to New Zealand for the end of the world, and I'm going to get all these ships and things so that it looks like I can write it off as an oceanic researcher.
But really, in case even New Zealand falls, I've got a fleet of ships during the depopulation operation.
Remember I told you that?
15, 16 years ago, and now he admits basically all of that.
dan friesen
What does basically mean in that sense?
unidentified
So, if I understand this correctly, movie producer.
jordan holmes
Talking to James Cameron.
James Cameron's like, hey, you remember Titanic?
And he was like, yes, I do.
We're going to watch it in holograms.
And he was like, that sounds cool.
And then he was like, psych, movies aren't even going to exist.
So the movie producer, realizing that he doesn't have a job later on in life, was like, oh, obviously what I'll do is scam New Zealand's tax system so I'll have a fleet of ships.
dan friesen
Also, keep telling people you're going to put out those Avatar sequels.
Even though there will be no movies.
jordan holmes
You're still going to need it, yeah.
dan friesen
I want to know what elements of that has been basically admitted to.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
By whom?
Great question.
Did New Zealand open up those tax loopholes?
dan friesen
James Cameron is incredibly committed to the bit, because he also put out that Titanic, the hunt for the Titanic film.
jordan holmes
Yes, he did do that, yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, he is interested in the water.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, of course.
dan friesen
So stupid.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So, like, this is the detachment from reality and, like, this stupid shit that Alex puts out.
And, like, you know, it's mixed up with this religious verve that gets people to think that he's bringing them to some kind of a real spirituality, but it's not.
alex jones
Go to Bandot Video.
See the ancient, middle-aged, 800-year-old carving of the devil eating a child.
And now what do you see at the Space Needle?
Now what do you see at the Olympics?
Now what do you see for real?
Now what do you see coming with the mRNA vaccine?
Death.
Sacrifice of your genetics.
Sacrifice of your fertility.
Sacrifice of your health.
The very takeover of your body in a giant genetic ritual with what they cooked up.
With full clone genomes of jellyfish and humans injected, taking over every cell in your body, cell by cell, and by the time you figure out you've been hit by it, you don't know what hit you.
All right, Brian, Michael, John, everybody, we're going to your calls when we come back.
Then it's six after Stone's on for a couple segments, and I'll go back to your calls.
Then Robert Barnes is coming up.
This is not a game.
Fight back with what God gave us, vitamin D3, winter sun in stock.
dan friesen
It's just...
Ridiculous.
If you listen to that minute, it's just nonsensical.
jordan holmes
Alex, I just want to thank you for bringing me to Christ.
After you told me there was an 800-year-old statue of the devil eating a child, and then I looked at what was happening at the Space Needle and at the Olympics.
And why not?
Denver's airport.
dan friesen
Sure.
Blucifer.
jordan holmes
I came to Christ.
dan friesen
And by that, I mean I bought Winter Sun because it's on sale.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was what I meant to say.
dan friesen
The religion of Alex's dumb pills.
unidentified
Jesus.
dan friesen
Anyway, Roger Stone is on.
unidentified
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Is he talking about James Cameron's movie after the Avatar sequel where North Koreans get on a boat and they dramatic fly over to Maine, drop the ballots off.
dan friesen
He just wants to wish Alex a happy New Year.
jordan holmes
Starring Tom Hanks.
unidentified
No.
roger stone
Well, Alex, first of all, Happy New Year.
It's got to be a better year than 2020, although 2020 certainly had its highlights.
It was not only the year in which I was convicted, framed really, in a Soviet-style show trial, but also the year in which, through the mercy of God, the president gave me first a commutation, then a full and unconditional pardon.
dan friesen
So here's really what I take offense at.
Roger should be furious at Trump for pardoning him.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
Because now he doesn't have to spend all that money proving that he was innocent of the entire thing.
unidentified
See?
jordan holmes
He's saving all of his money.
No, it's a good thing.
It's a good thing that he doesn't have to.
Now, obviously he is, and he's going to give back all the money that people donated.
dan friesen
Shut up.
jordan holmes
Oh, he's not?
dan friesen
Based on the premise from around the time of that conversation about a commutation.
Roger was explicit that he didn't want a pardon because he had so much evidence that he could prove that he was set up and he was going to be the one who was going to be the champion fighting to expose the deep state corruption that only he could because he had the standing because he had all the evidence that he was innocent.
It was all going to come out in court.
Trump, don't pardon me.
I'm just afraid to go to prison because there's a lot of COVID-19 in those prisons and I'm an old man.
I have pre-existing health conditions.
You need to commute my sentence so I can survive to appeal.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And now, of course, like, hey, isn't it great that Trump pardoned me?
Fuck you, man.
jordan holmes
Fuck you.
dan friesen
The whole story is gone now.
jordan holmes
I think if I were the judge...
dan friesen
You're so full of shit.
jordan holmes
If I were the judge that gave Roger Stone so many fucking chances...
And then I heard that.
I would think that every decision that I had ever made up to that point was a bad one.
dan friesen
Now listen to me.
If I were somebody who listened to Infowars and believed this shit, I would be mad about this.
jordan holmes
You should be.
dan friesen
I would be mad.
I'd be like, hey, Roger, remember when you were going to be the one who was going to get Peter Strzok thrown in prison or whatever?
jordan holmes
Nobody wants to be the first.
Look.
I'm not an info warrior.
I'm not the tip of the spear, Dan.
dan friesen
I think you said he's the tip of the spear.
jordan holmes
Well, okay, so I said I was the tip of the spear, but I don't want to fight anybody.
dan friesen
He was begging for money from everybody for his legal defense so he could be there and expose the deep state.
If I believed that the deep state was something real that was an imminent threat and was going to kill my family, I'd probably be pretty fucking pissed off that Roger accepted a pardon, or even, like, I don't know, is there some kind of a mechanic for...
You're rejecting a pardon?
Like, if you think you're actually innocent...
jordan holmes
Yeah, I believe there is.
I believe you can reject a pardon.
dan friesen
Hey, guess what?
He wouldn't need to, because he could just tell Trump, don't pardon me.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He could actually do that instead of just doing that publicly.
Oh, God.
I would be so mad at him.
I can't believe these people let these people get away with this.
jordan holmes
I can.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, I guess I can, too.
But it's still infuriating.
jordan holmes
That you can get away with this shit is bonkers.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And that it seems almost not...
It's almost expected...
I swear to God, they should be smirking all the time.
Harrison Ford should play the parts of everyone at Infowars with that dumb smirk on his face every time he says anything because if you listen to this, you're fucking stupid.
dan friesen
Harrison Ford as Harrison Smith.
Get off my plane!
So Alex is going to D.C. He's going to go do this rally.
I was listening to this clip and all I could think is this is just a separate reality that's being discussed.
alex jones
We're going to D.C. like they did in Romania or like they've done in many other places and showing our numbers to the dictatorship of the left, of the bureaucracy that's trying to steal the election from our president and complete their takeover.
We do not want violence of any type because we have the election on our side.
We have the truth.
It's the left that's violent.
dan friesen
So, I mean, it's just the conception of what's going on is just completely warped.
Yeah.
I don't even know how to have a conversation with that.
jordan holmes
This is another one of those things where you're like, I just can't believe that this is still...
It's like those conversations, it's like those debates that we've talked about where it's like, you're just having the same conversation they had 2,000 years ago, but dumber.
dan friesen
Yeah, you don't realize the thoughts that the people who had this conversation a while back had afterwards through the scholarly discussion about this.
jordan holmes
And in the same way, this like...
We've literally seen not just this exact thing happen before, but this exact thing happened a couple weeks ago.
It's not like this is in the long distant past where there's no way we could possibly learn from our history.
This is a couple weeks ago.
dan friesen
And it's only worse.
It's only worse!
I just don't know.
I can't even fathom.
jordan holmes
How fucking stupid this is.
It's the left that's violent propaganda.
That's infinite years old.
It's always the same shit, and people still fall for it.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, look.
The truth is that Alex is going to do this rally, and people have told him that if he doesn't, then maybe he'd get back on Facebook.
alex jones
I have had ABC National News hosts call me up.
I've had others from Fox call me.
I've had Democrat Party lawyers call me and go, Alex, we like you.
I bet we can get you re-platformed.
Please don't do this in D.C. You're going to be in danger.
Somebody might shoot you.
Oh, please don't lead a violent revolution.
And really what they're doing is calling up and threatening me.
So they're really concerned about the six, Roger.
I mean, if they've got it in the bag so much, why are they doing this?
dan friesen
Because they didn't.
jordan holmes
So an ABC News host called Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
Threatening him.
On air.
unidentified
Threatening him.
dan friesen
On air host, by the way.
jordan holmes
Threatening him.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Don't do this.
We don't want violence to happen to you.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
ABC on air host.
dan friesen
Hey, look, we like you, Alex.
jordan holmes
Alex, I'm a Democrat lawyer, which is how I've always introduced myself on any phone conversation.
And I just want to let you know, we love you.
dan friesen
Alex, I should tell you, I'm a high-ranking globalist.
And I will get you back on Twitter if you just please don't have your violence rally.
jordan holmes
Don't hold this rally!
We've only seen two of these in the past few weeks and nothing happened then either.
dan friesen
Well, some things happened.
jordan holmes
Well, that's fair.
dan friesen
Maybe not to the scale that Alex was looking for.
And also, let's not get it twisted.
Alex is going to show up somewhere.
It's not like Alex is leading a revolution.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
But he is one of the bad boys.
unidentified
I used to be such a sweet, sweet thing to me.
alex jones
Gotta hold on me.
Yeah, we got two of the real bad boys here.
Here's clearly Alex Jones and Roger Stone.
dan friesen
Fuck yeah, two of the real bad boys.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
unidentified
Yep.
roger stone
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Bad boys.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
Who's Will Smith and who's Martin Lawrence in this?
dan friesen
I'm not sure, but look, I will say that Roger lives up to his reputation as a bad, bad boy.
roger stone
You know, Alex, I'm putting in sometimes 17, 18-hour days.
I'm trying to finish my book, which is entitled Roger Stone Did Nothing Wrong, My Political Persecution and the Heist of the 2020 Election, because they are very intricately connected.
dan friesen
Real quick, that's an unwieldy title.
I would shorten that up.
jordan holmes
Nah, nah, nah.
I like to go back to 17th century titles.
I like, on the existence of this and over that and on the course of things that might be and over K. No.
dan friesen
Unwieldy.
jordan holmes
Love it.
roger stone
I'm trying to finish the script for a documentary and I'm going to be honest with you.
If I was not using Brain Force Plus, there's no way.
This is a great product.
I'm paid nothing to tell you this, folks.
dan friesen
Bad boys!
jordan holmes
How much is he getting paid to say that?
dan friesen
I might have suspected that he wasn't getting paid until he said, I'm definitely not getting paid for this.
Kind of makes me think you're getting paid.
jordan holmes
How much are you getting paid now?
unidentified
Huh.
dan friesen
Very dicey.
Yeah, that's what the bad boys do.
They work 17-hour days on self-serving documentaries and books, and then chill for Alex's products.
jordan holmes
Couple of the bad boys.
Couple of the real rebels out there.
dan friesen
And much like bad boys, Roger says, I would say that one of the defining characteristics of bad boys is that they defer to authority in any situation.
jordan holmes
Oh, totally!
roger stone
I'm not second-guessing the President of the United States.
I don't know what he has up his sleeve.
I do know this.
Whatever it is, I will support him 1,000%.
He is the greatest president since Abraham Lincoln.
dan friesen
Hey, you're talking to a guy who hates Abraham Lincoln right now.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, this is the guy.
Abraham Lincoln killed Alex's ancestors.
dan friesen
Well, they fought at least.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so, I mean, Lincoln might not be the best example.
To use here.
I know that for sane people, that might be a good example as a president that's looked upon positively.
But Alex doesn't like him.
jordan holmes
You're talking to the people who still...
dan friesen
Alex's confederate royalty.
jordan holmes
Still smarting over that whole loss back then.
dan friesen
Also, just such a bad boy.
Whatever Trump does, I am fine with.
jordan holmes
I will never, never be insubordinate, even if he does the things that I say he shouldn't do!
dan friesen
Because he got me out of prison.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, there's that.
dan friesen
For something that I definitely would have lost an appeal about, but I pretend to...
Fuck it, asshole.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
Anyway, go fuck yourself, Roger.
Really?
jordan holmes
Like, really hard?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, really hard.
dan friesen
Now it's time for Barnes to come in.
jordan holmes
I like how it never gets better.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
No, it doesn't.
Although this episode will end quite well.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
But before that, we've got to get through the mire that is Robert Barnes.
So Barnes has a plan, or he's a constitutional lawyer, so he can explain...
jordan holmes
I don't know if any of that's true, but I haven't seen any evidence that would suggest he's a constitutional lawyer, but you can continue.
dan friesen
He was Wesley Snipes' lawyer!
So Barnes, because he knows the Constitution, is going to lay out for Alex the steps that could happen in order for Trump to get into office.
And basically, it's just an elaborately, absurdly complicated plan that is not going to happen.
robert barnes
So all of those are basically in play, and the question is, what do House members and senators do when presented with argument and evidence about these individual states' electors?
Do they uphold an unconstitutional election, or do they contest that unconstitutional election?
If Biden ends up with fewer than 270 electoral votes at the end of this process, then under the 12th Amendment, the election goes to the House of Representatives to vote by state delegation, not by individual members, but by state delegation.
And that heavily favors Trump.
So the big question, the first big question was, would a senator join the objections?
We now know, Senator Hawley, that will happen.
That means these votes have to take place.
That means these hearings have to take place.
And that gives the president, while a long shot, a shot to have a constitutionally correct response take place to this unconstitutional election.
alex jones
What can we, the people, do to put pressure?
Obviously, March, what else?
dan friesen
Chew your food.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would say talk with your mouth empty would be me.
dan friesen
Eat during the breaks, asshole.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You got a constitutional lawyer trying to tell you how the Constitution works and Trump could steal this election.
Don't eat a sandwich while he's telling me this.
This is all just this elaborate, this route.
So you've got the objections.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So then, like, let's say Arizona is being objected to and then somehow magically that objection stands and everyone agrees on it.
Then those electoral votes are taken away and then you get...
Biden under the threshold, and now the House elects.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Oh, God.
It sounds like QAnon stuff, but you should know that even though Alex has not gotten the memo about Lin Wood, Robert Barnes has, and he does not like what he's hearing.
robert barnes
Well, I think Lin Wood is doing a lot of damage to the president's case.
Particularly in Congress where he needs votes.
He needs votes out of House members and senators.
And I think the reason why the media has been happy to let him go wild and why Twitter hasn't censored him at all is because they see them as helping Democrats and hurting Trump.
I think he thinks he's helping Trump, but in fact he's not because he's pursuing allegations that either cannot be proven at this stage or within this time frame or allegations that distract from the core issues that can be proven.
And frankly, Wood has been involved with a lot of the QAnon types who believe a lot of stuff that just has not been proven true.
And that's a key problem.
And unfortunately, Sidney Powell got entrapped by a lot of that.
dan friesen
Entrapped by a lot of that.
What does that mean?
Unpack that word, Counselor.
jordan holmes
I would say that my new exhortation...
For everyone is to always be carrying tomatoes with you in case you see Robert Barnes.
dan friesen
I'm amazed by the turn of phrase that Sidney Powell was entrapped by QAnon.
jordan holmes
Entrapped by QAnon stuff.
dan friesen
Is that a legally meaningful term?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
Did she get to catch a predator with QAnon stuff?
dan friesen
I don't want to say that she believes dumb shit.
jordan holmes
Hey, why don't you have a seat?
dan friesen
So anyway, Barnes lays out this scenario again for Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, so if I understand correctly, it's possible that a Rube Goldberg machine might have been activated by a lawsuit that will then suddenly roll down one of those ducks that bends over and drinks water and pops back up, and then there'll be an overthrow of the government, and we're all just gonna be fine.
dan friesen
They're playing Constitution Mousetrap.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
alex jones
I want to find out for people that aren't a constitutional lawyer, how that would happen if the House and Senate voted to do that, what the states would then do, what that would look like.
robert barnes
So what would happen is if Joe Biden does not reach 270 electoral votes that are uncontested and that have not yet been certified, then the remedy under the 12th Amendment is to go to the House.
Now, the Vice President Pence, there is an interpretation of the 12th Amendment that Vice President Pence can do this all by himself.
That he can say there's contest involving too many states, so there's not enough.
Neither candidate has more than 270 electoral votes.
So under the 12th Amendment, the House must vote now by state delegation.
And in some houses, you have a tie, so the vote probably wouldn't count.
But it's the newly-seeded House, not the old House, but the newly-seeded House that would vote.
They would vote by state, and whoever gets 26 states to vote for them wins.
Or if it's 25 and 23 and two are tied, they win.
So the president has an edge with 27 states.
alex jones
Wow, and so this makes the Georgia election also more important than ever.
robert barnes
Yes, that's why Trump has been pursuing it.
He knows he needs those Republican senators to have a chance to get to the House delegation.
In the first place.
dan friesen
To get to this stupid Hail Mary nonsense that you're talking about.
Oh, this is why that election is important to Trump.
Oh yeah, that makes sense.
This is nonsense.
jordan holmes
Here's why this stuff exists.
It's because this makes sense.
When it's only white landowners who are allowed to vote?
So you can have all these conversations in Congress because you're like, this is also the total number of people who are allowed to vote in this election.
But when everybody's allowed to vote...
Okay.
Sooner or later, this is going to have to happen.
One side is going to have to accept what they believe is an undemocratic election.
Either way.
dan friesen
But we already did in 2000.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
So that's how it's going to go down.
Either the Democrats admit, fine, you can stay in office because you imagine something happened and we're just going to live with it.
Or Republicans are going to have to be like...
Fine.
We're just fine with an undemocratically chosen president.
Because at no point in time are these people going to ever believe that he's the...
dan friesen
Well, they have to accept what they perceive to be.
jordan holmes
No, that's what I'm saying.
dan friesen
Not an actually undemocratically...
jordan holmes
Exactly.
But in their minds, it's just as real as anything else.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's fair.
jordan holmes
So, I mean, I don't...
There's no other way to, like...
dan friesen
There's some humble pie that will need to be eaten.
Yeah.
By Trump fans.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because otherwise, shit gets bad.
jordan holmes
Or by our blown-up knees.
Like, that'll be one way for us to eat humble pie.
dan friesen
Well, see, here's the thing.
Barnes has got this elaborate scenario wherein maybe there's an interpretation of the 12th Amendment where Pence can just be like...
Hey, shit doesn't look good.
Let's steal it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think that was Sideshow Bob's interpretation of the 12th Amendment.
dan friesen
Alex is a little bit worried about that, though.
unidentified
Because...
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
Well, seems kind of dictator-ish.
unidentified
Well...
dan friesen
Alex would like to avoid the perception of being a dictator.
alex jones
Sure.
Is there not another way so they don't claim Trump overturned the election as a dictator for the ignorant people out there?
We're going to have a new election.
Because even the U.N. and the State Department say if there's not poll watchers, if there's big questions, you should redo.
That's the international standard.
That's the American standard.
We don't normally have to redo elections, but I think this is the time to do it.
Is there a path to do that?
robert barnes
Congress could do that.
Congress could set another election day and say that given the contested presidential election, we're going to have election day on January 19th, for example.
alex jones
Yeah, I think they're too cowardly.
When the Democrats have done this gaslighting saying they won and run this scam, I think they're just too cowardly, these people in Congress, to absolutely overturn the fraud, which they should.
But I think the third way is a new election.
I think Trump's leaning towards that, I've been told.
Have you talked to him?
robert barnes
He was always open to that, but he preferred...
His original remedy, of course, was preferred that he be declared the winner based on an honest vote count.
dan friesen
Yeah, that makes sense.
jordan holmes
Wild.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Wild.
dan friesen
It's like looking into a...
Funhouse mirror.
jordan holmes
It really is.
unidentified
This is nuts.
jordan holmes
I would give anything for a Democratic Party as strong and as conniving as what they imagine.
I would take any single activist under the age of 20 over anybody in Congress right now.
That's the reality of it.
They're pathetic.
It's sad.
It's sad.
dan friesen
Even so, we could talk about that all day.
I'm much more interested in how this is being painted.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They're talking about, like, hey, you know, like, the sensible middle ground is another election.
Like, hey, look, we can just do another election.
As a favor to the Democrats, we could do another election.
Like, what the fuck?
jordan holmes
How many, how many...
dan friesen
How detached is this?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know how you could even take it seriously as a, okay, you want another election?
What will need to happen for you to agree that Biden lost?
Just tell me.
dan friesen
Oh yeah, what are the parameters?
jordan holmes
In fact, yeah, I would be for another election if you had to write down exactly what you need to accept the election, and then if it happens, you have to shut the fuck up forever.
dan friesen
Sorry, I can't do that.
I wrote those down when I was in a fugue state.
unidentified
See?
dan friesen
Now this is what I'm talking- Also, Robert Barnes was on Stefan Molyneux's show within the last year.
jordan holmes
Hey, white nationalist buddy!
dan friesen
So anyway, Barnes thinks that the problem for Trump is that he has a lack of allies and that they've all betrayed him.
jordan holmes
I wonder why they would do that.
robert barnes
The fundamental weakness the president has had throughout his four-year tenure has been the lack of allies in key positions of power around him.
And he's coming to terms with the full recognition of what that means as he sees McConnell's recommended judges betray him at every single level, as he sees McConnell tries to betray him in the Senate on the upcoming vote, as he sees what's happened with the Republican governors in Arizona and Georgia undermining him.
So he now fully appreciates it, but I think he undervalued it before.
And he had too few allies.
And the effect of it is smart allies would have him periscoping every single day, would have him doing, you know, introducing Trump TV now and doing at least one hour updates every single night, answering questions, connecting to people directly, getting people proactive.
Had he controlled the narrative in that manner, then some of this Lynn Sanity from Lin Wood and some of these other Q movements could not have diverted people's And big tech wouldn't have seen a green light to even start censoring him.
dan friesen
I don't know if it's a good idea or not, but I will tell you, I don't want to live in a world where the president is moonlighting as a TRL host.
jordan holmes
Not good.
dan friesen
Taking calls.
jordan holmes
I mean, in the reality we live in, I think it might be a smart idea.
I don't want to live there.
dan friesen
We're talking about two different things.
You're talking about effective?
jordan holmes
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I'm talking about that would be dark.
jordan holmes
I'm more mad at him taking Lynn Sanity away.
That is one of the five...
Good things that have happened to the Knicks in the past hundred years.
dan friesen
Shame on you, Barnes.
jordan holmes
How dare you?
The Knicks have had five good moments, okay?
dan friesen
So I guess they want Trump to have a media outlet that he's operating while he is in power and should have been doing it while he was trying to be re-elected, which is fucked up.
jordan holmes
You know what's not dystopian at all is if it was forced into our homes no matter what we did and it was always on screen and you couldn't even turn the...
dan friesen
Alex's buddy suggested that on the other day.
jordan holmes
Oh, really?
dan friesen
The emergency alert system.
jordan holmes
See, now that reminds me of this one thing from that book that they like to talk about all the time.
What was it called?
Because in that book, the dictator, the dystopia, he was always on that.
That was it.
dan friesen
Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.
So, you may recall, the last time Alex went to D.C., he spoke at that Jericho march, and in the course of the day, he ran into Mike Flynn.
Unfortunately, a video came out of this where Mike Flynn looked at Alex like he was a weirdo.
jordan holmes
Squee!
And then ran away.
dan friesen
We have an update on that.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Turns out Mike Flynn called to apologize.
alex jones
That's what this is all about, but I told the story of how this happened, and I just handed it off immediately.
Because no one else was stepping up.
And there wasn't a magical Q group.
There wasn't a magical Intel group doing it.
And I had, you know, General Flynn called me yesterday and said, you know, I'm sorry about how it looked like when I got startled by you that I'm not a friend.
And they said, I'm sorry that happened.
I said, I totally understand.
He's going to be there.
So everybody's together.
Everybody's good.
Everything's great.
dan friesen
Hey, man.
unidentified
Look, I'm sorry that I was startled by you and I looked like I wasn't a friend.
jordan holmes
Normally, I don't particularly care.
Anytime they do those, like, when reached for comment, this person said, this is the only time I want Michael Flynn on record as having said yes or no to this being true.
dan friesen
Also, was Mike Flynn entrapped by the keystone?
Where are we going to draw the line on entrapment?
unidentified
If there's entrapment, are they being blackmailed by pedophiles?
jordan holmes
What is happening?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
Anyway, I'd like to remind you before I play this clip that Robert Barnes is a constitutional lawyer.
jordan holmes
Are you sure?
alex jones
We'll talk about what Trump's role should be if they effectively steal it.
He's got to never concede and just be the president in absentia, in exile, and just keep building the movement against him.
Do you agree with that?
jordan holmes
Like the Constitution says.
robert barnes
Oh, no doubt about it.
And it needs to be at the...
There's been too much focus at the top.
dan friesen
You're complaining that other people are focusing too much at the top.
You're saying you should have a make-believe second president.
That seems like a pretty harsh focus on the top.
jordan holmes
Are we just going to exile him to an island for a while until he eventually returns to recapture the Empire?
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
I like islands too much.
Send them to Atlantis.
All right.
jordan holmes
That's where Bonaparte is.
dan friesen
I promised you that we were going to end this episode on a fun note.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And we will.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because there is a call that comes in that is huge.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Let's talk to John in Wyoming.
John, thanks for holding.
Go ahead.
dan friesen
Good morning, Alex.
Yes!
jordan holmes
It's Old Man Housephone!
dan friesen
He's alive!
jordan holmes
Old Man Housephone, you live!
dan friesen
Sign of life.
January 1st, 2021.
jordan holmes
Of course he joins us on the first day of the new year.
dan friesen
He's like, I don't know, a groundhog showing up and seeing its shadows so there's no more winter or something.
jordan holmes
Old man house phone returns.
dan friesen
Old man house phone's alive.
jordan holmes
Hey, old man house phone.
dan friesen
But he probably is because he lives in the middle of nowhere in Wyoming and has a house phone.
So he's not a high COVID risk.
Although he is really old from what I recall.
jordan holmes
I'll tell you this, he's at least an hour outside of town.
dan friesen
Yeah, he listens to Scousin.
So anyway, his call is not very interesting at all, but it is worth celebrating that he is alive.
jordan holmes
It's good to see him back.
dan friesen
Yeah, and here's how the call ends.
alex jones
And John, you've been calling in for like 15, 16 maybe.
How long have you been calling in, John?
You haven't gotten on in years.
unidentified
Oh, it's, you know, since little orphan Annie had pupils in her eyes.
alex jones
All right, brother.
I said I'm going to start that show years ago with our best callers.
I never did it.
But we finally have started doing it.
Give me your name and number again.
I want to have you on as a guest.
dan friesen
I want to get you on with Harrison on the American Journal.
jordan holmes
You have been giving him your name and number for over 17 years since fucking...
unidentified
I was in college when he first gave the phone number.
dan friesen
Old Man House phone.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're going to do it over Skype.
Do you want to do it over Skype, Old Man House phone?
dan friesen
I don't think I can do FaceTime on my rotary.
jordan holmes
Hold on, I'm going to have to plug into the other operator and see if she can handle that out.
dan friesen
Sorry, I can't come on your show today.
There's a party line.
jordan holmes
Could you please hang up?
I need to keep this line open.
dan friesen
Oh, wow.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Wow, wow, wow.
jordan holmes
See, now, the problem is everybody should have a good house phone just in case they need to hang up on Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Because if you could hang up on...
Oh, you could make a real good noise out of it.
It'd be great.
dan friesen
Yeah, I do think that people who are of a certain age, younger folks, probably don't know that experience.
jordan holmes
The joy of really slamming a phone down.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's pretty cathartic.
jordan holmes
Solving a lot of problems that you didn't even know you had with one phone slam.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't miss it, though.
Maybe...
I was a more angsty person whenever stationary phones were around.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Wall phones.
jordan holmes
Oh, man!
Have you ever broken one of the things on a wall phone?
dan friesen
I think everybody has.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, it's the best.
dan friesen
The worst is when you try to sort of slam a wall phone horizontally and it doesn't stick.
It just drops.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That gesture did not work.
jordan holmes
That's like tripping up the stairs whenever two people can see you.
And there's no escape from that moment of embarrassment where you're like, shit.
dan friesen
Yep.
So we begin 2021, and I think that there's an old man house phone showing up and giving us proof of life is probably a great sign.
jordan holmes
I think it's a good omen.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I think it says 2021's gonna be more house phone.
Oriented.
dan friesen
Maybe.
I don't know.
I don't know what it portends, but it's something positive.
jordan holmes
A step backward in technological development?
alex jones
COVID!
Sharia!
My COVID!
Sorry.
dan friesen
I just wanted to play that.
I forgot to play it at the beginning.
alex jones
Sorry.
dan friesen
That sorry is always...
jordan holmes
Sorry.
dan friesen
I mean, it's the right thing to say.
jordan holmes
It is the right thing to say.
dan friesen
It's just weird.
I want to know.
That's the other thing.
Two questions for him.
The plexiglass between us.
jordan holmes
Atlantis?
dan friesen
Atlantis?
And why do you say sorry?
That is a good point.
What is motivating that?
Are you actually sorry?
jordan holmes
I bet that's a childhood tick.
dan friesen
It must be.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think that's a Texas childhood tick for him.
dan friesen
It's got to be.
So, Jordan, we'll be back.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledgefight and at GoToBetJordan.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Facebook.
unidentified
We are on Facebook.
jordan holmes
Please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work right now.
dan friesen
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
I'm thrilled that Old Man House Phone is alive.
I mean that unsarcastically.
It's pretty nice to hear from him again.
It's almost like hearing that Don DeGrand Prix is alive, but unfortunately, I have bad news.
He is not.
But Old Man House Phone is.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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