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Jan. 8, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
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#517: January 5-6, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan take a look at how things went down on Infowars on the day when right-wing dingdongs stormed Washington DC.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
16:15
d
dan friesen
01:39:28
h
harrison smith
23:41
j
jordan holmes
46:47
Appearances
d
donald j trump
04:05
o
owen shroyer
01:14
t
tom pappert
03:30
Clips
j
jacob chansley
00:08
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
donald j trump
Dan and Jordan, knowledge fight.
alex jones
I need, I need money.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller in the future.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
Jordan!
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan!
Jordan!
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan, is a happy anniversary for our show.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
It is our anniversary.
dan friesen
We are recording this.
jordan holmes
January 7th.
dan friesen
Yes, four years ago.
jordan holmes
It's crazy.
dan friesen
Our first episode came out.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
How dare we do this for four years?
dan friesen
I'm mad at us.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Shit.
jordan holmes
Somehow we are also a cancer on this world.
dan friesen
Damn it.
That was unexpected four years ago.
But here we are, and it's been a fun ride at times.
And we got quite an appropriate gift.
From the universe.
jordan holmes
As far as a four-year...
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it is nice to still be working on this with you, and I appreciate that, and so that is my bright spot.
jordan holmes
No, it's beautiful.
It's one of those things where I have a hard time remembering that we didn't do this show.
dan friesen
At some point.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Like, there's a part of me that's like remembering...
dan friesen
I did open mics.
jordan holmes
No, I remember...
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
I was 24. I was in the fucking suburbs, and I was doing an open mic my third of the night, and I keep...
In my memory, I'm like...
Well, tomorrow I'm going to have to record.
Like, that's how ridiculous it is that we do this show.
dan friesen
The schedule has become something you've superimposed on.
jordan holmes
Retroactive, yeah, yeah.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot, Dan, is I got new glasses.
dan friesen
Nice.
jordan holmes
I got new glasses.
About two weeks after I got these, my dog Jake got a hold of him, and there's tooth marks and the like all over.
And that was about a year ago.
So I went and got a new pair of glasses.
And Dan, do you want to know how stupid I am?
dan friesen
How stupid?
jordan holmes
When I went to get new glasses, I was looking at the frames.
And I was like, oh, you know what I'll do?
I'll get some different frames.
I like the same style, but I'm going to get some different frames.
dan friesen
Can I predict what happened?
jordan holmes
I got the same exact frame.
Exact same frames.
dan friesen
Intending to get the different ones.
jordan holmes
Intending to get different frames, I got the same one.
Because I am predictable.
dan friesen
That's pretty sweet.
They look good, though.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they look great.
dan friesen
So something that doesn't look great is our prospects for going to bed at a decent hour.
We're recording this a little bit late because necessity kind of had to.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you were, you know, some big news happened yesterday and you decided to sleep the whole day.
You didn't pay any attention to it.
You've really, like you did maybe two hours of work on this episode, right?
dan friesen
Really phoned it in.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, you threw this one on the, yeah.
dan friesen
We were talking on Tuesday.
We recorded our little bonus scavenger hunt over Zoom.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
And after we recorded that, we were talking and I'm like, well, tomorrow's gonna suck.
It's going to be a disaster.
I'm going to have to work a whole lot, so I'm going to do nothing today.
I'm going to treat myself to a little bit of relaxation because I know that Wednesday's going to suck.
I didn't think it was going to suck in the way that it did.
At that point, I was kind of predicting a dumb rally, but what I was thinking was going to suck was that Alex had interviewed Mike Flynn, and I didn't want to deal with that.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
How naive I was on Tuesday.
jordan holmes
I am the 10th famous person on the plane where the big bopper went down.
Not going to be in the news anymore.
dan friesen
Yeah, Mike Flynn's interview.
Going to have to be on the back burner.
jordan holmes
Page A26, my friends.
dan friesen
I did watch it, and it's boring.
But we may cover it at some point, because it is a bizarre thing to happen.
jordan holmes
I believe that.
dan friesen
Because you have Mike Flynn, who's like the hero of the QAnon folk.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Who think Alex Jones is like a CIA massage shill.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And the two of them are doing an interview where they're like...
Hey, buddy!
And they won't stop talking about it on the episode that we're going to be going over today.
It ends with the two of them hugging.
jordan holmes
Oh, great.
Love it.
Great.
dan friesen
Tom Papert describes it as a really important moment.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Of course.
dan friesen
I don't know how QAnon fans would rationalize that.
It seems like it would be really difficult for their hero to be hugging a CIA Mossad agent.
jordan holmes
I know.
Here's how I would do it.
I would say he actually doesn't know anything about us.
Doesn't care, and would just like our money.
unidentified
Ah.
dan friesen
I mean, that would be on the level.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today, what we're gonna be doing, we're gonna be going over, first of all, the speeches that Owen Troyer and Alex Jones gave at a Stop the Steal rally on the evening of January 5th.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Then we will be tracking the entire day's coverage on Infowars on January 6th.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
We're going to start with the American Journal call-in show.
Call-in show.
No calls.
No calls.
Why not?
Well, I mean, nothing had happened by then.
jordan holmes
No, I don't.
dan friesen
That's early in the morning.
It's mostly because Harrison Smith is hosting and he's just basically throwing it to...
Just boring.
Well, he's just throwing it to Don Jr.'s speech.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Then we've got the Alex Jones show, comes on after that.
Right.
Also hosted by Harrison Smith.
Because Alex and Owen are in D.C. And then we've got The War Room, which is hosted by Tom Papert, and also Alex Jones and Owen Schroyer in D.C. Okay, so if I understand correctly, we are playing the Washington Generals today.
jordan holmes
Is that what's going on?
dan friesen
It is the B-string.
But it's still important.
I do still think it's important to look at the lens of how the coverage on Infowars went, because you can see Alex's hand.
Totally.
Editorial control, you can see the training that these people have had under Alex, and Alex does show up a bit, and he's yelling.
jordan holmes
For sure, for sure.
dan friesen
And it's a load of nonsense.
But I apologize to everybody.
I have been working straight through all day yesterday.
I forgot to get names for wonks.
So I'll tell you what, before we start today's show, I'd like to say thank you to everybody who supports our show, and also everybody who likes the show but doesn't support it.
I'd like to thank you.
Anybody out there who needs this today, who needs a nice little pick-me-up, you're a policy wonk, you know that?
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
Thanks, everybody.
dan friesen
Put a smile on your face.
jordan holmes
Thanks to all the wonks, non-wonks, and I guess people who are hearing this 10 years in the future.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So yeah, on Wednesday, there was the planned rally in D.C. Sure.
We knew that there was...
jordan holmes
Went off without a hitch.
dan friesen
Man.
I was not surprised in as much as they've been talking about this for a long time, and Alex has been trying to incite an event like people storming the White House, or not the White House, excuse me, the Capitol building, for quite a while.
That has been something that has been...
A predictable conclusion.
But I would be lying if I said I wasn't still shocked.
I wasn't ready for it to happen.
Like I said already, I thought it was going to be another dumb rally where Ali Alexander says a bunch of nonsense and then everyone goes home.
I was taken aback by how quickly things got out of control, how extremely they got out of control.
And I was pretty surprised watching Alex's coverage of it, too.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm interested to see.
I was trying to avoid dipping my toe into how the conservative media would react too much to this, just so I didn't get a whiff of ruining the whole premise of the show, which is that I don't know what Alex is going to say.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So I'm very curious to see how they all take this as a...
Glaring Lawson that they're all a bunch of embarrassing morons.
I think that's what they're gonna...
dan friesen
I think this is interesting because you and I have very different takes on the events that transpired.
jordan holmes
Yes, very much!
dan friesen
Over our text messages, we've been going back and forth and there's a little bit of a disagreement.
And I actually think that both of our positions have merit and there's validity to both of them.
You believe that this was an optics disaster and they all looked like dum-dums and this is going to be...
Crippling to the right-wing extremist movement.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would argue that.
dan friesen
And I can see where you're coming from, and I think that there is a place for mocking.
And I think that that is something that is, you know, valid to be part of the conversation.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Personally, I see patriot lore being established, and that worries me.
I see...
You know, the way that Alex talks about, like, Colonel Travis and his time at the Alamo, and it's like, this isn't history.
This is patriot lore.
This is something like a misunderstanding and a misrepresentation of the past.
I see...
That happening in the present.
And I see all of the elements that are necessary in this event to become a part of patriot lore that is really encouraging and inspiring and dangerous for people in the future.
And I don't think that you don't think that's valid also.
jordan holmes
No, I think that's one of the weird things about our general disagreements is...
I think you're probably right if a certain couple of variables, like, our worldviews are just like a couple little variables twisted here or there and we disagree.
Otherwise, I think, even then, we're still coming at it from the same, like, this is where all of these people think.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I think that some of these differences in our perspective, I hope they can be more fleshed out as we go along through the episode, as we see the InfoWars coverage.
jordan holmes
I think it's interesting.
I think it's very interesting.
dan friesen
Yeah, so we're going to jump in with the speeches at the Stop the Steal rally.
But before we do, here's an out-of-context drop from today's show.
alex jones
God and his consciousness creates the ocean that creates the waves on which Donald Trump or an Alex Jones or you ride in on.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So God creates the ocean, the ocean creates the waves, and Donald Trump, Alex Jones, and you ride them waves.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Alex might have been fucked up.
He seems like he's gassed.
Like he's running out of breath.
It's a mess.
It's another instance of him being the guy at the comedy show you never want to go after.
You don't want this guy in the middle of the booking.
jordan holmes
Not where it's supposed to be.
dan friesen
No, because he's going to burn out the audience.
With just...
jordan holmes
You can't do it.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I mean, even if the guy in front of you is only doing 10 minutes and you're doing 45, if he gets eight standing ovations, you're done.
dan friesen
Yeah, you're fucked.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the end.
dan friesen
So we start with Owen, though.
Owen opens for Alex.
He does a tight five, let's say.
But he starts off by ripping off Alex.
unidentified
President Trump is watching this, and he's very excited at what he sees.
And he's going to have some big announcements for us tomorrow, I believe.
Thomas Jefferson once said, when the government fears the people, there is freedom.
But for too long now, the people have feared the government.
Well, in January 2021, that changes!
dan friesen
That looks a little worse in hindsight.
We've been over this before, but that isn't a Thomas Jefferson quote.
It's from a 1914 debate against socialism delivered by John Basil Barnhill that over the years has been misattributed to a bunch of people like Thomas Paine and Thomas Jefferson.
Perhaps more interestingly, though, in that clip, it appears that Owen's trying to promote the idea that Trump is going to show up at the rally the next day.
This was the first instance of an Infowars employee behaving in a way that led me to believe that they had no idea people were planning to storm the Capitol the next day.
They are acting 100% business as usual, promoting what they expect will just be another afternoon of profitable terrorism edging that they're going to be playing.
And that's kind of the vibe that I get.
And it's just, this is all like Infowars business.
As usual, just Owen being a dumb shithead.
unidentified
And the theme is four more years for Donald Trump.
And while I think all of us can get behind that, I'd like to see a thousand more years of human freedom and a thousand more years of the United States of America.
Then deal with climate change?
USA!
dan friesen
It always happens.
jordan holmes
Oh my god, they're so silly.
dan friesen
It always happens.
The USA chants break out so easily.
jordan holmes
Do you know, here's the problem.
Here's the problem with these.
Here's the problem.
I'm gonna give you this right now.
dan friesen
Surprised there's only one.
jordan holmes
There's only one that I can see.
Here's your audience.
Those dum-dums.
You can steal anything.
And they will have no idea.
You stole a Thomas Jefferson quote from not Thomas Jefferson, and they still bought it.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
Why wouldn't you go out there and be like, uh, uh, uh, would you rather have Alexis or Justice?
A dream or some substance?
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Why wouldn't you go dead press?
Why wouldn't you do something real?
dan friesen
To quote Thomas Jefferson.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly!
dan friesen
Hey, schools don't teach us shit.
unidentified
Exactly!
jordan holmes
Seattle playwright!
dan friesen
Just stay awake!
Or try and get really fancy and just completely lie to the audience and be like, grapes don't exist.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Let's fucking shoot the moon.
Where's our line?
What's the line?
dan friesen
I think that the fake Thomas Jefferson quotes are just something that's so in the pocket for them that it's safe territory.
jordan holmes
No, you can't go wrong.
dan friesen
Also, I would say that even under ideal conditions, I don't know if America could last another thousand years.
Climate change notwithstanding.
That's still a long time for a country to, I guess maybe, but it could still exist in some fashion, but not like He is a golden superpower.
jordan holmes
I mean, it'll probably be more like the Holy Roman Empire was in Germany for a while.
You know, like that kind of thing.
dan friesen
It would be bizarre to imagine continuing at the status that this country is for that long.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the United States of America will just be small parts of Montana that cut apart.
dan friesen
It's foolish on Owen's part.
But, I will say, I think that Owen feels the itch to get into a line of work that you and I used to explore.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I think he wants to start doing open mics.
jordan holmes
You think he wants to do little bits?
dan friesen
Well, you remember when he took the tank down to the Austin?
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
They were getting ready to go on the caravan?
jordan holmes
Yeah, and he was workshopping bits.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
To empty traffic.
He was doing jokes.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
He's got a new bit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
But, you know...
Nancy Pelosi said that you can no longer say mother and father in Congress.
Did you see this?
Well, I got news for Nancy Pelosi.
Trump is your daddy.
dan friesen
Good bit.
Good bit.
Solid, solid piece of work right there.
We're doing the, you can't say mother and father again.
jordan holmes
24 hours prior to the fall of the United States government, a nuclear power, one of the leaders of the resistance said, Trump is your daddy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Five years ago, they did this.
You can't say mother and father paranoia and panic.
It's great to see them bringing back the hits.
jordan holmes
It's about time.
dan friesen
So this is in response to Nancy Pelosi and the House updating their rulebook.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so the actual text of the rulebook doesn't include gendered language.
But that doesn't mean that you can't say mother and father.
It's not like it's against the rules.
It's just not in the text of the rules.
jordan holmes
Right.
This is like Skinner, you know?
They've been doing new stuff for five years, but whenever you go in public, you've still got to play the hits.
dan friesen
Yeah, but this would be like, you know, you don't play Freebird for a few years, and then you bring it out as if it has never been played before.
jordan holmes
They've just been on the radio too much.
They haven't been in public.
They haven't really had that chance to get a Freebird out there, you know?
dan friesen
I would say that Freebird's a long song.
An Owen Troyer set is not long.
jordan holmes
That's a smart move.
dan friesen
This is No Stairway to Heaven.
This is an In-N-Out.
jordan holmes
Okay, alright.
dan friesen
Two and a half minute pop song.
He's getting out of there and he's also another stand-up reference.
It's a shotgun situation.
He's introducing Alex.
jordan holmes
Alright, that's good stuff.
dan friesen
Who's coming up next.
unidentified
It's my pleasure to introduce a man.
It's my honor to introduce a man who was the genesis in many ways of this second American Revolution.
jordan holmes
Dear FBI, Alex Jones was in many ways the genesis of this...
unidentified
...that started with one man on public access television.
Will tomorrow turn into millions of Americans in the streets of Washington, D.C. to take our republic back?
And that man's name is Alex Jones!
dan friesen
It really also does not look great in hindsight.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
I want that on my wall.
dan friesen
Only one man on public access in Austin, Texas is responsible for everything that happens tomorrow.
jordan holmes
I just want any law enforcement entities that may be recording this speech as we speak to know this is all on Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Tomorrow will be the culmination of his professional career.
jordan holmes
I'm just saying, if you want to stop this movement, get Alex Jones!
dan friesen
It's all on him!
jordan holmes
It's only him!
unidentified
I'm throwing him under the bus by way of flattery!
jordan holmes
This is the greatest man who is responsible for everything!
dan friesen
I found myself feeling a lot of that.
In hindsight, this is terrible.
But then the other thing that I was feeling was that there's a lot of stand-up shit in here.
Like, Owen's doing some stand-up.
Getting the crowd to chant USA is pandery nonsense.
And Alex basically starts his set with, like, give it up for yourselves.
He does, like, a give it up for the waitstaff.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out of here.
alex jones
I'll tell you who I'm excited here to see.
It's you, the American people, unified in resistance.
dan friesen
Give yourselves a round of applause for coming out tonight.
unidentified
Yeah.
Jesus.
dan friesen
What a lovely audience.
You guys are the best.
jordan holmes
All right.
Okay.
If I'm doing my set, I want to open with three applause breaks.
Doesn't matter.
I want to say, give it up for your weight stat.
Hey, give it up for yourselves for coming out tonight.
Hey, ladies and gentlemen, how about those sports teams?
You guys like them?
dan friesen
Or a nice gracious move if maybe you're the headliner.
Give it up for everyone else you saw tonight.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
That's super cool.
jordan holmes
Get that number three in there and then get your set.
dan friesen
Oh, yes.
So Alex at least has maybe learned that as a little bit of etiquette.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Which I haven't seen in some of his other speeches, so I think that might be a performance evolution on his part.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, so many failed right-wing comics are these people, so I assume Alex has spent a lot more time with failed right-wing comics recently.
dan friesen
It's possible, and maybe he's going backwards.
Maybe he's Benjamin Buttoning it.
unidentified
And now he's going from right-wing reactionary to open mic.
jordan holmes
Yeah, to successful comic.
That'd be the worst.
For the first part, if he suddenly nails it.
dan friesen
I've seen him do stand-up.
jordan holmes
Okay, well, we have too.
dan friesen
But he does have a head start on other, let's say, younger comics coming up.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
He's got that name recognition.
dan friesen
Well, there's that.
But he's also got a catchphrase.
And he's got a catchphrase that apparently audiences will chant with him.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck.
alex jones
They have tried to steal this election in front of everyone!
And as I told them 20 years ago, I tell them again, I don't know how this is going to end, but if they want to fight, they better believe they've got one!
unidentified
What?
What?
dan friesen
He's got his own get-or-done.
jordan holmes
People will call in response to that shit?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
Yeah, that was wild.
jordan holmes
I have never heard that before in my life.
dan friesen
Oh, he yells that all the time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but I mean...
dan friesen
If you want to fight, you better believe you got one.
jordan holmes
Right.
But I mean, that was a long thing for people to remember.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It shocked me.
jordan holmes
It's a little the length of the Lord's Prayer.
I'm just saying, I don't remember all of the Lord's Prayer.
dan friesen
If I was up after this, I would be worried.
jordan holmes
I would start with the Lord's Prayer.
To bring the energy down again.
dan friesen
I would be super worried, because it's like, alright, either...
He's gonna fuck this up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or I'm not gonna be able to follow this.
One of the two.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, he almost alienates the audience.
jordan holmes
Alex Jones is the Lauryn Hill of the right.
dan friesen
He almost immediately after this, after getting a get-her-done style chant, he almost alienates the audience by accidentally saying that Hitler was bad.
alex jones
Hitler was a monster!
Stalin was a monster!
But what Mao Zedong and Xi Jinping did overshadows their crimes against us!
Against humanity!
Every crime they commit against...
A Muslim?
A Christian?
A Buddhist?
An Agnostic?
A Chinese?
An African?
A what?
It doesn't matter!
dan friesen
I think he's fucked up.
unidentified
It's a crime in the eyes of God!
dan friesen
You can tell that Alex is a serious scholar of Chinese history and the Chinese Communist Party because he knows the names of Mao and Xi.
I actually kind of think that he doesn't realize that she isn't Mao's successor.
And I'd love to bring up Hu Jintao to him.
Because then he would say, who?
And then we'd end up in a vaudeville bed.
jordan holmes
I would legitimately like to ask him if he knows that Chairman Mao had a wife.
I would be interested to know if he thinks that the whole time it was just him.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
I don't think he knows a whole lot more than a couple names.
jordan holmes
I think that you might be right.
dan friesen
Some broad strokes and maybe something he read in a JBS pamphlet.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
Leaving that aside, it's important to understand that Alex is lying to this audience in a very, very real way.
He doesn't care at all what China does to the Uyghur population of Muslims, except when he can use their pain as a weapon against his own enemies.
In this case, he's in front of a crowd, so he wants to establish the moral high ground against their imaginary evil enemies who support China's treatment of Muslims.
When he's alone on his own show speaking freely, he sounds a little bit different, like he did on May 26th.
alex jones
But from Michigan to Texas, from London to Los Angeles, from Rio de Janeiro to Berlin, There are call to prayers.
I don't like the communist Chinese, but they don't put up with that.
Because they know it's a group trying to take them over.
Hey, Chi-Coms, do your thing.
Don't try to take me over.
dan friesen
Do your thing.
jordan holmes
Do your thing, Chi-Coms!
dan friesen
Talking about their repressive treatment to certain Muslim populations.
Yeah, do your thing.
jordan holmes
No, he cares.
He cares.
dan friesen
Well, when it's useful.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean...
dan friesen
What Alex is doing here on stage is exactly what he and his friends accuse the entire left of doing.
Virtue signaling.
Alex doesn't care about how China treats Muslims, because if Alex had his way, the only Muslims that would be allowed in America would be the ones who agreed to convert to his bizarre, idiotic version of Christianity.
Quite simply, Alex is using the false impression that he's offended by how the Chinese government treats the Uyghurs in order to pretend that his criticisms of China come from a sensible and real place, when in reality, they're mostly just re-warmed up Yeah.
Yep.
It's a bummer, but also Alex does seem a little bit fucked up.
He seems a little messed up.
jordan holmes
He's having a good time.
dan friesen
Yes.
I agree.
jordan holmes
Currently, I would say, on the countdown of ways to learn, we've gone from 10 to about 8. When he gets down to a 4, we know we're fucked up.
Right now, there are 8 ways to learn.
dan friesen
Jordan, I would say that he's having a good time, and more importantly, he has had a good time before this.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
He's been having a good time.
jordan holmes
That's a fair characterization.
dan friesen
And I think, like I was saying, he's gassed.
He has no cardio.
If you're a comic and you want to be a high-energy comic, you'll quickly learn that if you're out of shape, you're going to have a really tough time with that.
You see comics who are maybe a little bit more energetic.
Sometimes they'll be sweating, and it's because it's hard.
It's hard to keep that energy up.
I'm sweating now.
jordan holmes
We're only a half hour in.
dan friesen
Alex is learning this the hard way.
alex jones
And just as authoritarians throughout history have bet on the Bolsheviks and bet on the Nazis and bet on every other form of tyranny, their bet will fail!
jordan holmes
I guess you're right.
alex jones
Because there is a God that created the universe.
And there is a God that inspired our republic.
And there is a God in the control of the affairs of humans.
And that God will see us through if we are loyal.
dan friesen
I don't know if it came through as well on the audio, but you can tell he's getting his breath after just about every other word.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it doesn't look comfortable.
But he also, in there, gets into safe territory.
Start this getting into religion.
jordan holmes
Get into God.
Get in or get out.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And once you start talking about religion, it's important that you level with the audience.
You gotta be real.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
You gotta be real.
jordan holmes
Let's hear this one.
alex jones
But make no mistake.
Make no mistake.
I'm like being completely honest with you here.
Things are gonna be rough.
Things are gonna get bad.
We've already allowed the murder of 60 million babies in this country.
We've done so many other evil things.
So we're deep down in the water.
We're hundreds of feet deep.
It's gonna be hard swimming back to the surface.
And not everybody is gonna make it.
But that's okay.
Because in the end, God will fulfill His destiny and will reward the righteous!
dan friesen
Outside of some surface-level stuff, this is exactly the kind of speech I would expect to hear at an ISIS rally.
There'd be some different decoration and some different themes, maybe, but this is culty.
jordan holmes
Yeah, these guys are ISIS.
dan friesen
It's really messed up.
jordan holmes
I am so happy to remember how many times people told me years ago, like, don't call them ISIS.
That's offensive.
unidentified
That's too much.
jordan holmes
They're ISIS.
dan friesen
Love it.
jordan holmes
Love it.
Fuck you, the past.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it's possible for you to have been onto something and also wronged them.
jordan holmes
I am aware.
I am aware.
dan friesen
But maybe not now.
alex jones
Just as we see in the Bible and just as we see in history, God rises up men who are real.
Not men that are perfect, not men that are above reproach, but real men like President Trump.
Who has fought hard for our republic.
Who's fought hard for justice.
Who's done the best job he can.
And because he has represented us, he is under attack.
So we hold up President Trump before the creator of the universe.
And we say thank you for trying to send us a deliverer.
No, he's not perfect as we are, but we pray for him, and we pray for America, and we hold him up in this hour of peril.
dan friesen
Sounds like his voice is about to bottom out, too.
alex jones
Give up the gasoline, road warrior.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
Thank you.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Thanking God for sending Trump as a deliverer.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
It's funny to hear that speech broadcast on TV.
dan friesen
I'm not positive that this speech was broadcast on TV.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's fair.
I meant in a more ethereal sense of it traveling throughout space.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
It's sent to a satellite in space.
dan friesen
It's on the right side broadcast network.
jordan holmes
And then sent back down.
Sent around everywhere.
All of this happening instantly.
In his pocket is a small little brick with all of human history recorded inside of it.
And he's like, we've got...
Trump is our deliverer because of God.
dan friesen
It's super weird.
jordan holmes
What world do we live in?
dan friesen
It's super weird, too, to imagine that signal going into people's homes, and then at least one person is watching it like, damn right.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That's very bizarre to me.
Like, seeing this...
jordan holmes
You realize a miracle's in your face!
unidentified
Well, I mean, seeing this speech...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's like, yeah, I get what Alex is doing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I kind of understand what he's up to.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's baffling to me to imagine that people are like...
jordan holmes
Wild.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is good.
jordan holmes
Yeah, man.
dan friesen
Totally.
This is entertainment.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Or this is inspiring.
jordan holmes
You know who my favorite character in Fury Road was?
Immortan Joe.
I thought he was the guy I wanted to follow.
Ride or die, Immortan Joe.
dan friesen
Well, it could not be worse than Bill Gates.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I know that.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Also, by the way...
I was looking around on band.video, and there's a new section on there, and it's just titled, Bill Gates is Evil.
jordan holmes
That's also a folder I have on my desktop, but yeah.
dan friesen
I guess that's what Alex is doing.
Instead of making that documentary about Bill Gates, he's just got a place where he's posted some shitty videos about him.
jordan holmes
That's nice.
Organize it.
dan friesen
Yeah, but he doesn't run the world, that Bill Gates.
alex jones
But it's God in control of human destiny.
Not Bill Gates.
Not Warren Buffett.
Not Lord Rothschild.
Not the globalists.
And it's that simple understanding.
That God of the universe is in control, not the globalists who want to play God.
We recognize God, we connect with God, and we transcend the Satanists by doing that!
dan friesen
I think people were worried about when that sentence was going to end.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that one kept going.
That one kept going.
dan friesen
I think Alex didn't.
He was trying to find his feet.
jordan holmes
I don't mind a run-on sentence.
I don't mind one, but there are times when you shouldn't.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It felt like the sentence was as drunk as Alex appears to be, just sort of staggering forward.
alex jones
There you go!
dan friesen
So this next thing that Alex says also doesn't look great in hindsight.
alex jones
Tomorrow!
It's a great day.
We don't quietly take the election fraud.
We don't quietly take the scam and believe their BS.
We've seen the evidence.
The system has had to desperately engage in this gambit to maintain control.
But this will be their Waterloo.
This will be their destruction.
dan friesen
Don't look great.
I would say that if I were Alex and I were confronted with that, I would be like, I wasn't talking about Waterloo the Battle.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
I was talking about the Amazon.
jordan holmes
This is all political.
Political only.
I am not talking about literal events.
dan friesen
Yeah, that would be smart.
jordan holmes
Depicting war.
dan friesen
So now, here was my concern when I was talking about being the person who comes up after him.
It's like, he's gonna lose the crowd.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Like, he can't keep this up.
This is, like, he's burning up.
He's coming in hot and he's gonna burn out fast.
jordan holmes
And Orny Adams up next!
Wait, what?
dan friesen
Alex starts dipping his toes into COVID denial.
And he starts losing the audience a little bit.
jordan holmes
Ah, come on, man.
This is about this.
unidentified
Cool.
dan friesen
But we're not here for this.
jordan holmes
Focus.
dan friesen
This is a Stop the Steal rally.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
alex jones
And the world is watching everything you do with the big tech censorship and the economic attacks and the COVID lockdowns and the UN martial law.
World government foretold for thousands of years.
Is now upon us and is pathetic and it will be defeated!
We finally face the world government chicken little witch hunt system and we have the deaths of 2020 from the CDC 61,000 more people died in 2020 than died in 2019 and when you count When you count the drug addiction,
the drug overdoses, and suicide, less people died in 2020 than died in 2019.
unidentified
This isn't your fucking show!
alex jones
COVID-19 is broken.
jordan holmes
That wasn't me.
alex jones
But you have to go out.
And you have to expose it.
dan friesen
It's fallen apart a little bit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think you should have left that one alone.
dan friesen
Yeah, the wheels are off the wagon.
Alex is making up numbers.
jordan holmes
Alex is a little bit drunk now.
Alex is a little bit too drunk to stay on target.
dan friesen
I think he's just, you know, it got good to him.
He was feeling like, sometimes you'll be on stage, your first three bits will land, and you're like, I'm going to try out something new.
jordan holmes
I'm just...
Nope.
dan friesen
I've fucked up.
jordan holmes
No, I think he's in a nice little world of like, hold on.
I'm gonna do one more bit.
That last one didn't land, so I'm gonna do one more bit, and then that one lands, and you're like, oh shit, I'm gonna do one more after that.
I'm gonna push it.
I'm gonna keep letting this ride.
dan friesen
No one's gonna get this, but he's Mike Sheehan-ing it.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I would say that's about right.
So when you're in that circumstance, the only thing you can do is retreat back to what was working.
Try and be like, okay, I was being dirty earlier.
I tried to be more introspective and observational.
They didn't like that.
Gotta go back to dick jokes.
jordan holmes
Don't be mean to Hitler.
I realize that if you're mean to Hitler, it's bad.
dan friesen
Religion was popping the crowd.
Let's go back to religion.
alex jones
So we must now...
Pray for President Trump and lift him up to God and ask God to give him the guidance and the discernment and the leadership to make the decisions in God's plan that bring down the new world order.
dan friesen
Got him back a little bit.
jordan holmes
All right.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Back on his side a bit.
jordan holmes
It should be harder than that.
dan friesen
These people are not very smart.
jordan holmes
Nah, that's fair.
dan friesen
They believe things like that fake Jefferson quote earlier.
unidentified
Yeah, that's fair.
dan friesen
And now Alex pulls out a fake Churchill quote.
alex jones
Churchill gave a famous speech where he said, all I can promise you was blood and pain and war and suffering.
But the alternative is even worse, total slavery.
So we don't care what the New World Order does.
We commit to Christ and we commit to war against the globalists with the truth and we will never surrender.
dan friesen
I may be wrong, and I'm open to admitting that if Alex will go ahead and provide that citation, but I think the quote he's trying to remember is from Churchill's first speech as Prime Minister in the House of Commons in 1940.
The part Alex I think is misquoting is, quote, In this crisis, I hope I may be pardoned if I do not address the House at any length today.
I hope that any of my friends and colleagues or former colleagues who are affected by the political reconstruction will make allowance, all allowance, for any lack of ceremony with which it has been necessary to act.
I would say to the House, as I say to those who have joined this government, I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears, and sweat.
The blood, toil, tears, and sweat thing is an attempt to stress to his government that he's working hard despite a short speech.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm promising you the blood.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
After this, Churchill comments on his strategy for fighting World War II, which is the other part of what I think Alex is mixing up here.
You ask, what is our policy?
I can say it is to wage war, by sea, land, and air, with all our might and with all our strength that God can give us.
To wage war against a monstrous tyranny, never surpassed in the dark, lamentable catalog of human crime.
That is our policy.
You ask, what is our aim?
I can answer in one word.
It is victory.
Victory at all costs.
Victory in spite of all terror.
Victory.
However long and hard the road may be.
For without victory, there is no survival.
So the elements of both...
jordan holmes
Slightly more eloquent than Alex makes it sound.
unidentified
Yeah.
I will give you blood.
I'm reminded of the great Churchill quote.
alex jones
What is bastard life?
jordan holmes
To crush your enemies!
unidentified
With blood!
jordan holmes
See them driven before you!
alex jones
And hear the lamentations of the weapon!
dan friesen
Yeah, that wasn't good.
I think that that is definitely the quote.
That he's mixing up because...
jordan holmes
It sounds right.
dan friesen
Whenever he does his really shitty Churchill impression, that's the...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the quote that he does, so I assume it's the only reference he has.
jordan holmes
It's whatever pull he has and however he's changed it in the moment in his drunken adult brain.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So I know that a lot of people are struggling.
I think a lot of people had a tough time with watching the events that unfolded on Wednesday.
And granted, this is Tuesday, but Alex still recognizes that there's a lot of people in pain.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Maybe some people in the audience are feeling in pain.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And they shouldn't.
This is his message of...
jordan holmes
Unity.
dan friesen
No.
God, no.
jordan holmes
No.
This is what he's...
He's bringing the country together.
dan friesen
He wants to comfort anybody in the audience who might be feeling alone.
jordan holmes
All right, good.
alex jones
Never, never, never, never feel alone.
No matter if you're in a jail cell or no matter if you're dying of cancer or no matter if your car broke down in the middle of the desert.
The God of the universe built you, and the God of the universe loves you, and the God of the universe will deliver and fulfill you, but you must have faith and open that channel.
And that's why, in closing, I'm so honored to be here tonight.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
I love the idea of Owen Troyer sitting off stage left and just being like, this guy's got the goods.
jordan holmes
I will follow.
Oh, Captain, my Captain.
dan friesen
Sitting there taking notes.
Or, Owen is in the back listening to his set.
He'd recorded his set.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, of course, in order to improve later, because he's got another set to do later on tonight.
You know, he's waiting for his buddy to get done with his set so they can both get in the car and go to fucking Hidden Shamrock.
Why not do it?
dan friesen
Although, I do hear that, and I kind of think to myself, it would be really interesting to see Alex Jones' motivational speaker.
You know, like...
Hey, you lost your job.
You lost your job.
That sucks.
It sucks, man.
It sucks.
But guess what?
You're made in God's image.
No matter what you got, he just minimizes your problem.
He just tells you that God made you out of stardust or whatever.
jordan holmes
Hey!
I know you're poor.
unidentified
God's fine with that, though.
alex jones
Come on now.
Let's get it together.
jordan holmes
Let's move on.
dan friesen
So here's the end of Alex's speech and where we will leave the Stop the Steal rally from January 5th.
alex jones
The globalists want to play God.
They are not God.
And the answer to their 1984 charity is 1776!
1776!
I'm so honored to be here with General Flynn and Roger Stone and others coming up.
But they are just as important as you are.
Whether you be black.
Whether you be white.
Whether you be old.
Whether you be young.
God made you.
And God loves you.
And they will never separate us.
We will prevail.
Amen.
Whoa.
jordan holmes
Wild.
dan friesen
Very weird.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You gotta end on 1776.
dan friesen
You bet.
jordan holmes
The end.
End of set.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Walk off.
dan friesen
You don't need to reveal that you've completely blanked on who else is speaking.
alex jones
Nope.
dan friesen
Except for General Flynn.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
You don't need to end with amen, a weird ramble.
jordan holmes
None of it.
dan friesen
Yeah, you end with the chanting of 1776.
jordan holmes
You nailed it.
dan friesen
Although he does still leave the question in your mind, what does he think that means?
You got people storming the Capitol the next day.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You got him inspiring chants of 1776.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
It kind of, I mean, look.
jordan holmes
I don't understand what you're, are you drawing a connection between the two?
dan friesen
I'm not necessarily, I'm just saying there's a narrative consistency.
unidentified
That's one way of putting it.
dan friesen
If these two events were in a fictional story, and the author were arguing that one led to the other, It would make sense.
jordan holmes
It would make sense, yes.
dan friesen
I'm not saying that they do.
I'm not saying that Alex did cause anything.
I'm just saying...
jordan holmes
From an entropy standpoint, if you were going to put one in front of the other, I think you know which you would choose.
dan friesen
So now we go to the 6th, and we will be here for a while.
We'll be spending a little bit of time in the Infowars trenches.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Okay.
unidentified
But...
dan friesen
It doesn't happen until almost the end of Alex's show.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Actually, probably in the second hour, I think, is when the actual, like, going over the barricades.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, when it started popping off.
dan friesen
And then it proceeded to get wild pretty fast.
And, yeah, we'll deal with that as best we can as we go along.
But we're still in this sort of...
Much more innocent time now, because we're listening to the American Journal.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Which, again, is supposed to be a call-in show.
There's no calls.
jordan holmes
There's no calls.
dan friesen
No calls.
jordan holmes
Zero calls?
Not even one call.
dan friesen
I remember Alex saying that whoever's hosting this show, if they're not taking calls, they're not going to be hosting it anymore.
So, bad news, Harrison.
You're fired.
jordan holmes
We are going to get a 17-year-old host very shortly.
dan friesen
I think we already have one.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's true.
dan friesen
Harrison could be a baby for all I know.
I think he's like a high school sophomore.
He's there on an interview.
Sure, sure.
He's not even getting paid.
jordan holmes
He's the AV club guy.
He's got an extra block free and they let him do a work program.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
I gotcha.
dan friesen
Alex is sponsoring him at the local college.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he gets credit.
dan friesen
Or high school.
Yeah, I like it.
So the news of the day for him at the beginning is that there's this Trump rally that's going to be going on, but also Georgia got stolen.
jordan holmes
Wow.
harrison smith
What do you expect?
They haven't been punished.
Of course they're going to do it again.
And so they did it again.
Looks like it was lost.
I think one of the...
I'll get an update here, but as far as I know, both races are projected to be Democrat victories, although one is still on that hairline victory margin.
Donald Trump Jr. is live right now on the stage.
I want to go to him.
He, I think, has a major future.
If there's anybody that could succeed his father, I remember seeing him give a speech.
At the RNC in 2016 and thinking, I'm putting my money on this guy.
This guy can carry his father's mantle and keep that torch lit.
Let's go to him now and watch this live feed.
dan friesen
This Don Jr. kid's got something.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So he's the future.
jordan holmes
I think Harrison's the future, for sure.
The way he intro'd that clip made me real excited to hear what I wanted to hear.
dan friesen
George has been stolen again because they didn't get punished for stealing last time, apparently.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why not?
dan friesen
I found myself very bored listening to Harrison, but I do think that he has a word-a-day calendar.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
Because he would not stop fucking saying abrogate.
jordan holmes
He said abrogate a lot?
All right, get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
I was going to make a super cut of it, but I got to like three or four times that I'd cut it out, and I was just like, I don't even care anymore.
jordan holmes
You get at most one abrogate per week.
dan friesen
These people.
jordan holmes
Max.
dan friesen
Mike Pence has abrogated.
jordan holmes
See, Max.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
One.
dan friesen
That's a mess.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway.
There's a lot of stuff that I was listening to that would have just sounded like, oh, look at this braggy bullshit, if people hadn't stormed the Capitol building.
Yes.
harrison smith
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
In hindsight, there's a lot of stuff that doesn't look great.
dan friesen
Here is one of them.
jordan holmes
Okay.
harrison smith
Truly incredible stuff.
Of course, what we have just learned, and I'm excited to share once again, is that...
President Donald Trump himself personally asked Alex Jones to lead this march.
So following Alex Jones' speech, he will be at the vanguard leading the march to the Capitol.
And it's truly incredible.
And guys, let's just go ahead and leave that live feed up.
We can leave me in a box just because it's not me people are tuning in for.
It's the incredible events going down in Washington.
dan friesen
You're right, no one's tuning in for you, that's for sure.
jordan holmes
You're goddamn right you are.
dan friesen
But I would say that now it would probably be, you know, had they have known that people were going to storm the Capitol...
jordan holmes
I don't think they would have lied that big.
dan friesen
No.
I would assume that the storyline wouldn't be Alex Jones was personally asked by Trump to lead the march from the speech to the Capitol building.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That doesn't seem like...
jordan holmes
I would want that one off my resume pretty quick.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Also, this looks just kind of silly in hindsight.
harrison smith
That's the message we need to tell the police is you're a human being.
You're not a robot.
You know what's going on here.
You know who the good guys are and who the bad guys are.
Shouldn't be confusing to you.
Shouldn't be up in the air for you when you have hordes of, you know, just Black Lives Matter, just failures, just supported by the state coming out to the capital city to try to burn down buildings, to try to tear down statues.
You just yell at police and call them all sorts of horrible things.
Then you have Trump protesters marching saying thank you to the cops, saying, you know, we support you.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
harrison smith
It's not too difficult to know who the bad guys are and who the good guys are.
dan friesen
A couple hours later.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
Interesting things you're saying, sir.
dan friesen
A couple hours later, not so thrilled with the cops.
jordan holmes
Perhaps, perhaps you may not be viewing yourselves through the appropriate lens.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
I think I might be right.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So, one of the things I found really interesting is Harrison's doing play-by-play of this Trump rally, and so you had Don Jr., who's this fresh upstart.
He's got a bright future ahead of him.
harrison smith
Sure.
dan friesen
Now, there is an actual GOP upstart.
Who's really, like, kind of a hot commodity in the right wing, and that is Madison Cawthorn.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Nazi who's in a wheelchair.
dan friesen
Yeah, and he's, like, 25 or something like that?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
It doesn't take long for him to go full Nazi.
dan friesen
Like, he looks like the person you would want on all kinds of ad campaigns.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, if he weren't a Nazi.
dan friesen
Sure.
I don't know enough about his politics to really parse everything, but based on the speech, I'm not thrilled with him.
But it's interesting.
I do still know who he is.
Square jaw and all.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Sure.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Handsome.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But Harrison doesn't know who he is.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Madison Cawthorn comes up to give the speech.
He's up, like, next.
He's like Madison something?
jordan holmes
That's fantastic.
harrison smith
Now, this is...
I believe his name is...
He's a new congressman.
I believe his name is...
I'm blanking on his name right now.
Madison or something.
But he was just elected.
He's promised to stand up for Trump against Stop the Steal.
dan friesen
Wild.
Just the depth of...
jordan holmes
I love it.
dan friesen
Depth of awareness.
jordan holmes
I want this to be Infowars' new...
Entire tone.
I want Harrison Smith to host every show.
I think this is dynamite stuff here.
dan friesen
Guy looks familiar.
So Madison Cawthorn's up there doing his speech.
And just to show that everyone is a dork.
jordan holmes
My friends, I want...
unidentified
I want you to chant with me so loud that the cowards on Washington, D.C. that I serve with can hear you.
While I leave, let's get a chant so Donald Trump knows who supports him.
USA!
dan friesen
Love that USA chant.
jordan holmes
It is a parody of a parody at this point.
unidentified
It is.
jordan holmes
It really is.
dan friesen
Speaking of parodies of parodies.
Up next, Rudy Giuliani.
jordan holmes
Oh, here we go!
dan friesen
Rudy is giving a speech, and man.
Man, oh man.
So, a lot of people took issue with him saying that he suggests trial by combat, and then people stormed the White House.
jordan holmes
Yeah, which is objectively hilarious.
dan friesen
It is, it is, because it's a poor choice of words.
jordan holmes
Sure.
No, look, I mean...
I get why you would be hand-wringing over that.
I understand it.
dan friesen
I do, too.
jordan holmes
But nobody says trial by combat meaning storm a building.
dan friesen
Sure, it means one-on-one.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It means a duel.
jordan holmes
It means, yeah, yeah.
He was being very flowery and stupid.
dan friesen
But even so, that's not what he was talking about.
jordan holmes
No, of course not.
dan friesen
If you actually listen to the context, he's talking about the reputation of Donald Trump versus the reputation of Joe Biden.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And he's just trying to argue.
jordan holmes
It's the mountain versus the sand snakes or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
He's saying trial by combat.
He's not talking about the two of them actually fighting.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
He wants ten days.
His whole argument is he wants ten days for them to go on a fucking fishing experiment.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Expedition.
And try and find something in the ballots that they can make an argument.
But, of course, he's not presenting it that way.
He's saying it'll take ten days for them to find the fraud that they already know is there or something.
jordan holmes
What a fantastic arbitrary measure of time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
I love ten.
dan friesen
Ten days!
jordan holmes
Ten days!
Exactly ten.
unidentified
So...
Over the next ten days, we get to see the machines that are crooked, the ballots that are fraudulent, and if we're wrong, we will be made fools of.
jordan holmes
Too late.
unidentified
But if we're right, a lot of them will go to jail.
So, let's have trial by combat.
I'm willing to stake my reputation, the president is willing to stake his reputation on the fact that we're going to find criminality there.
dan friesen
If I were Rudy Giuliani and I could get anyone to gamble against my reputation, I don't care what I stand to win, I'm taking that bet.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
His reputation ain't worth shit.
jordan holmes
I can't think of two reputations more worthless at this point in time.
Amazing.
dan friesen
I'm Rudy Giuliani.
I'm gambling for like a sandwich.
jordan holmes
I will put everything that I have, every bit of my reputation, from 9-11's mayor to standing in front of the Four Seasons Landscaping Company.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, I got a little bored at this point because Harrison is really just, you know, covering these speeches and it's a lot of speeches.
Yeah, yeah.
And so, I was actually pretty pumped to see this.
Harrison landed an amazing exclusive interview.
harrison smith
Right now we have an exclusive.
We are on the line with Rob Dew, who is there at the Save America March, live on the ground.
Thanks for connecting with us, Rob.
I know it's difficult to get cell phone signal there with all of the massive crowds.
What is it like there on the ground, Rob?
unidentified
It's a sea of patriots.
It's a sea of happy people, really.
dan friesen
How'd he land this interview?
How'd he get the exclusive?
jordan holmes
I cannot believe you would describe that as an exclusive.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
It is also technically one of the most accurate ways you can use the word exclusive.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I agree.
dan friesen
I just love to imagine that, like, all the networks are knocking down Rob Du's door.
jordan holmes
We gotta get Rob Du!
We gotta get Rob Du!
Guys, I would love to go on Fox News today, but I've got an exclusive with Harrison Smith.
dan friesen
Sorry, I have an exclusivity deal.
unidentified
Sorry.
jordan holmes
I promised it earlier today.
dan friesen
Because they really want my analysis.
jordan holmes
I gotta get the Du in there, you know?
dan friesen
So, Rob Du, ever the...
Fumbly, dumb-dumb.
I can't even come up with the right words to express how much of a goof this guy is.
jordan holmes
I believe he's just schlamazel.
dan friesen
Sure.
He's got to come in and get a little piece of that pie.
And that pie, of course, is saying things that look really bad in hindsight.
unidentified
Right when the president starts speaking, about halfway through, Alex is going to pull out, and then we're going to lead that march to the Capitol to surround it and let these thugs that are trying to steal our republic know.
What's going to happen to them if they do go through with their dastardly deeds?
harrison smith
Yeah, and you know, I wish I was there.
I mean, the energy must be amazing.
dan friesen
So I guess Rob is expressing that the intention of the march is to scare Congress into not certifying the results of the election, which is cool.
jordan holmes
What they need to know is that we are a threat to them.
Physically.
They should be scared for their lives.
dan friesen
What we're going to do to them.
jordan holmes
And we are going to...
Follow through on that threat should they not give us what we want.
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
So, Harrison is pumped.
unidentified
Of course.
harrison smith
He can't quite do that out to break like Alex does.
jordan holmes
It won't go the distance.
It will go fast.
dan friesen
But Alex does that thing where he goes out to break with some overly dramatic, really exciting thing.
You can see...
He's trying to do some of Alex's tricks, but he just can't.
jordan holmes
He doesn't have it.
dan friesen
No.
And it's also embarrassing, again, to know that a couple hours after this, people storm to Capitol.
jordan holmes
I think it's a little bit weird that...
I understand being nervous, but it's not like this is Harrison Smith's first time on mic.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Like, he's been on mic for a long time.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
How do you not just allow yourself into the joy of following out with music?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
You know?
How could you not get pumped?
How could you not even at least sing a little bit along?
He sounds bored and disinfected.
dan friesen
It sucks.
Probably because Alex would hear about it and he'd beat him up for working his side of the street.
Sure.
No.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
That's my game.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but get a little into it.
Get a little hips.
Get your hips into it, man.
dan friesen
If I worked at InfoWars, I would come in for...
And I was hosting when Alex was gone or something like that.
I would come in for break with Silver Stallion.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
I'd sing along.
jordan holmes
Non-stop.
dan friesen
I'd just be begging Alex to fire me.
jordan holmes
I would have...
Have callers call in and then be like, you're boring, and play a song and sing instead.
It'd be great.
dan friesen
It would always be the highway.
jordan holmes
Everyone would go crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we sensed a little bit of perhaps racial animus earlier from Harrison, because Black Lives Matter failures and what have you.
Sure.
You see a little bit more of that on display here.
harrison smith
If the Democrats are allowed to carry out this fraud, if there are...
First of all, they'll do it again and again and again and again and again.
They'll also increase the number of immigrants by magnitudes of 10, refugees by many, many millions.
They'll completely open the borders outright.
They'll install socialistic programs that reward people that don't work, don't provide, and have nothing but hatred for us.
I think I see Owen Schroer there.
Do you see him right there to the left of the stage?
Screen left, stage right.
Owen Troyer just stood up and is looking around.
That's him, right?
dan friesen
I do think that moment is a little cute at the end, because if you're watching the video, you can see almost real excitement when he sees Owen.
jordan holmes
It's Owen!
dan friesen
I think that him and Owen might actually be friends.
jordan holmes
I think that sounds right.
dan friesen
Because later on, when Owen's on the phone, and the two of them, I think, talk over each other or something, there's some kind of a weird thing.
They both apologize to each other.
jordan holmes
That's cute.
dan friesen
Well, it's not so much that it's cute.
It seems human.
It seems like how people would interact.
jordan holmes
I know, that's what I'm saying.
It's cute that these automatons...
dan friesen
Watching Alex interact with people, it's so goddamn rude all the time.
He's got half a mouthful of...
Sandwich.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
It's bizarre to see actual excitement, see my friend on TV, and then also polite conversation.
It's bizarre.
jordan holmes
Oh my god, Owen's on The Price is Right!
Owen's on The Price is Right, guys!
Everybody get around!
dan friesen
The standards are so low.
Anyway, I'm a guy who's just shoveling.
A little pile of stuff that looks bad in hindsight.
Sure, sure.
jordan holmes
Digging that deeper.
dan friesen
Just going to add to that pile over here.
What's this?
Oh, it's a big one.
harrison smith
Of course, today is the day that the Congress will vote on whether or not to certify and codify the so-called fraudulent results of the election.
There are many machinations that could be...
You know, pulled out here in the last minutes or so, the last hours.
And of course, it's not really over until January 20th, but today is the day that we've all been waiting for.
It's the day that Donald Trump himself requested his supporters come to Washington, D.C. to see him speak and to stand up against the lies, disinformation, and fraud of the mainstream media and their controllers in the deep state.
Truly incredible stuff.
Of course, the word is that...
jordan holmes
It is!
harrison smith
Alex Jones was requested by Donald Trump himself to lead the march.
dan friesen
Really driving that home.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
I mean, he only said it twice, though.
I'd have to hear it three times in order for it to be like...
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, that would be a pattern.
You know, once or twice is isolated incidents.
harrison smith
In just a few minutes, Alex Jones will actually be leading the march to the Capitol at the behest, at the personal request of President Donald Trump.
Alex Jones will be at the head of that vanguard.
As the entire crowd, this massive human snake, this huge just unimaginable almost crowd of Trump supporters who have made their way to the nation's capital will wind its way towards the Capitol building.
dan friesen
Oh, so they're going to the Capitol building.
jordan holmes
Wow!
dan friesen
This all looks really bad.
jordan holmes
What a...
Just...
Glowing way to describe your friends and people you love.
unidentified
They look like a giant human snake.
dan friesen
So the mood is jovial among Trump supporters in D.C., or at least that's what Harrison is guessing based on his assessment of it from occupied Texas.
unidentified
Welcome back, folks.
harrison smith
The mood is still a jovial one here, and of course, as Rob Dew reported live on the scene there at the Save America Margin, Washington, D.C., it's like it's uplifting, everybody's happy, everybody's feeling good.
At the same time, there's an underlying aggressiveness beneath the surface, an unrest, I suppose you could say, pervading the spirit of...
American Trump supporters, everybody's a little bit on edge because, once again, we have tried and tried and tried and tried and tried to play within the rules.
We have tried to make the system change itself, to get back on track, to stop its endless drive to bankrupt and enslave us.
And time and time again, we are met with traitorous and seditious acts blocking us from carrying out...
A legal, lawful, within the bounds of the game, changes.
Now, they've prevented us at every pass.
Our last and final outlet was our sacred vote, and that is what has been stolen from us, or at least is still in the process of being stolen from us.
dan friesen
So you're making the argument that the jovial mood is pierced only by the recognition that there are no more legal ways for you to deal with the problems that are existentially threatening to you.
So you're saying that it's time to do illegal things.
jordan holmes
It is a solemn moment.
That we must decide to extrajudicially take back our republic.
And it just so happens that that's exactly what we wanted to do, so we're feeling pretty good about it right now.
It's a real jovial atmosphere.
We're gonna kill a few people.
It's gonna be great.
dan friesen
There'll be some jaunty music playing in the background.
jordan holmes
We got a flapper contingent over there.
They're doing the little...
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, earlier in the episode, we already heard Harrison saying that...
You know, we had the stolen, you know, the Georgia election, the runoff.
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
Oh, stolen!
unidentified
No!
dan friesen
So this bit of news that he comes to at the end of his show seems almost unbelievable.
harrison smith
Jack Posobiec reports that the Senate races in Georgia attracted 300,000 less votes than Donald Trump got for president, indicating that the base stayed home.
Crazy.
After all, why would we go out of our way to support a party that refuses to lift a single finger for the president of the United States who we all voted for?
They've undermined him at every pass.
dan friesen
I thought it was stolen.
jordan holmes
Wait.
dan friesen
You're saying that people didn't show up to vote for Trump and they shouldn't have because they've abandoned...
GOP's abandoned Trump.
jordan holmes
Right.
So they stole it.
dan friesen
Well, but I guess people just didn't show up.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
Because they weren't inspired.
jordan holmes
They didn't show up because it was preemptively stolen.
dan friesen
These don't...
These seem to be counter-explanations for something.
jordan holmes
Yes, they almost seem at odds with one another.
dan friesen
Yeah, it almost seems like intentionally InfoWars has self-contradictory narratives.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
Perhaps even one would suggest that they don't even know what they believe is happening.
Maybe they're very confused.
dan friesen
Maybe they just report what feels good.
jordan holmes
It feels right that they stole it.
Now, obviously, people didn't show up.
dan friesen
It also feels right that people would punish the GOP for abandoning Trump.
jordan holmes
It makes sense that they wouldn't show up.
dan friesen
Yeah, but also, they stole it.
jordan holmes
They stole it.
Now, I mean, obviously, it might have something to do with us saying that they stole elections and that elections don't matter, so your vote doesn't matter, so it doesn't matter if you vote.
dan friesen
Billy Alexander's making a lot of money off the Stop the Steal Show.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
We're getting a taste.
jordan holmes
I like it.
dan friesen
So Harrison's hosting Alex's show, so it's basically just a smooth transition into the Alex Jones show.
harrison smith
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the Alex Jones show.
I'm Harrison Smith.
It's January 6th, and Donald Trump has just begun speaking to the Stop the Steal March in Washington.
Without any further ado...
We go now to the President of the United States in Washington.
dan friesen
So I apologize in advance.
The first hour of the show is just Trump's speech, and so we're going to have to listen to a little bit of it.
I know that we generally don't listen to stuff, but this is pretty wild.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I think that it also sets the stage for a lot of the content and the things that end up happening.
jordan holmes
I'll listen to his words.
dan friesen
Please try not to scream too much.
We're recording this late.
jordan holmes
I'm not screaming.
dan friesen
So, ah!
So, it kind of begins with Trump rambling a bit about how his crowds are really huge, and fake news won't...
jordan holmes
Unsurprising.
dan friesen
They never show the crowds, so they won't...
jordan holmes
Of course not.
donald j trump
Go ahead, turn your cameras, please, would you show?
They came from all over the world, actually, but they came from all over our country.
I just really want to see what they do.
I just want to see how they cover it.
I've never seen anything like it, but it would be really great if we could be covered fairly by the media.
The media is the biggest problem we have, as far as I'm concerned.
Single biggest problem.
dan friesen
Wow.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
Oh, you're making whimpering dog noises.
jordan holmes
Oh, what a whimpering whiny.
Oh, no, the media's so mean.
dan friesen
Well, if that seemed kind of soft, wait for this one.
jordan holmes
Okay.
donald j trump
There's so many weak Republicans, and we have great ones.
Jim Jordan and some of these guys, they're out there fighting.
The House guys are fighting.
But it's incredible.
Many of the Republicans, I helped them get in.
I helped them get elected.
I helped Mitch get elected.
I helped.
unidentified
I could name 24 of them, let's say.
donald j trump
I won't bore you with it.
dan friesen
What the fuck is going on?
Even just now.
This is so bizarre that this is what's happening, that this is the speech that he's giving.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
A whiny?
I'd never listen to him.
dan friesen
It's so weak.
jordan holmes
I think this is something that is underreported amongst all of his terrifying words, is how much of a pathetic little whiner he is.
He's a whiner.
He's a whiner.
He's a little tiny whiner.
dan friesen
You imagine anybody else in a leadership position complaining about, I can name 24 people I've helped who are ungrateful to me.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
Grow up.
dan friesen
I wouldn't respect that in a boss.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
I wouldn't respect that in a contemporary.
I wouldn't respect that in anybody who's in elected office.
Like, that is childish shit.
Can you imagine, like, Obama?
unidentified
They made fun of my tan suit!
jordan holmes
Everybody's so mean!
dan friesen
I helped all these Democrats get elected and they have abandoned me in my time of need when I need people to stand up for my tan suit.
God, it's just pathetic.
jordan holmes
This is so sad.
dan friesen
Anyway, it's been a while since I've heard a president swear.
And Trump says bullshit in the middle of this clip.
jordan holmes
Well, you weren't alive for Nixon.
dan friesen
Well, that's true.
I've heard some tapes.
I don't know if Nixon ever swore and then a crowd of people started chanting.
The swear you just said.
jordan holmes
Yes, come on, do it.
donald j trump
This year using the pretext of the China virus and the scam of mail-in ballots.
Democrats attempted the most brazen and outrageous election theft.
And there's never been anything like this.
It's a pure theft in American history.
Everybody knows it.
jordan holmes
Everybody knows it.
donald j trump
Our election was over at 10 o 'clock in the evening.
We're leading Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia, by hundreds of thousands of votes.
And then late in the evening or early in the morning, boom, these explosions of bullshit.
And all of a sudden...
unidentified
All of a sudden it started to happen.
dan friesen
That's amazing.
jordan holmes
Do you know why all of this shit...
Here's what I'll say.
I will say this.
This is what I believe.
As much as the cops are totally complicit with all those people getting through and all that shit, the reason that the National Guard and all of those people weren't already at the ready is because of shit like this.
This is professional wrestling.
None of these people thought that any of this was real.
dan friesen
Um, yeah.
jordan holmes
This is professional.
You're telling me that a crowd of people who's listening to the President of the United States, a goddamn, the biggest economy in the world, a nuclear fucking power, is gonna get taken down by a crowd of assholes screaming, Bullshit!
Bullshit!
Bullshit!
It's professional.
Say yes!
Scream yes!
Yes!
It's the same shit.
dan friesen
It's weird.
It's pathetic.
There are definite elements of overlap.
And when you're losing in a wrestling match, you've got to fight harder.
And that's what Trump says people've got to do.
Keep in mind, right before people stormed the Capitol.
donald j trump
And we want to be so nice.
We want to be so respectful of everybody, including bad people.
And we're going to have to fight much harder.
And Mike Pence is going to have to come through for us.
And if he doesn't, that will be a sad day for our country.
Because you're sworn to uphold our Constitution.
Now it is up to Congress to confront.
This egregious assault on our democracy.
harrison smith
Donald Trump giving it to Republicans and Democrats alike in defense of the Constitution.
We have to go to a quick commercial break.
It's the Alex Jones Show.
We'll be right back.
dan friesen
So now it's up to Pence to save the Constitution, which I guess he didn't do.
So the audience kind of took the message.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Seemed very one-to-one.
Seemed very if-then.
dan friesen
Again, narrative consistency.
It's kind of interesting how the night before, Owen was trying out a little bit of stand-up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he was doing a bit.
dan friesen
And I noticed that Trump might have the stand-up itch, too.
He's got a bit.
jordan holmes
He's got a little bit.
donald j trump
And the only unhappy person in the United States, single most unhappy, is Hillary Clinton, because she said, why didn't you do this for me four years ago?
Why didn't you do this for me four years ago?
Change the votes.
10,000 in Michigan.
You could have changed the whole thing, but she's not too happy.
You don't see her anymore.
What happened?
Where's Hillary?
Where is she?
dan friesen
That bit did not land.
You would have expected that bit to go over gag busters in that crowd, but no.
jordan holmes
I think the problem with that bit is that he unfortunately undid his entire bullshit for this election.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Why didn't they do it for her?
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's less a comedic premise as much as it is a plot hole.
Yeah!
jordan holmes
Exactly!
unidentified
Yeah.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
alex jones
Huh.
jordan holmes
Well, why didn't those gunners on the destroyer shoot down the escape pod with C-3PO and R2-D2 on it?
dan friesen
Good bit.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I don't know.
dan friesen
Hilarious.
jordan holmes
Hilarious.
dan friesen
So, this is where things fall apart.
Trump...
He wants to try and prove that there was fraud.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Let's hear it.
dan friesen
It was rough.
jordan holmes
Okay.
donald j trump
As you know, the media has constantly asserted the outrageous lie that there was no evidence of widespread fraud.
Did you ever see these people?
unidentified
You ever see these people?
Well, there's no evidence of fraud.
donald j trump
Oh, really?
Well, I'm going to read you pages.
I hope you don't get bored listening to it.
Promise?
Don't get bored listening to it.
All those hundreds of thousands of people back there.
Move them up, please.
unidentified
Yeah.
donald j trump
All these people, don't get bored.
Don't get angry at me because you're going to get bored because it's so much.
dan friesen
They do get bored.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He just starts rattling off numbers and stuff.
And the audience, I don't think, is able to pay attention.
It's not exciting.
He loses them a little bit.
jordan holmes
In retrospect, if all of these speakers had known that the crowd was more of a storming crowd than a chanting crowd, you know?
Like, they like chanting for sure.
But they love Stormin.
dan friesen
Well, we learned that.
jordan holmes
I don't think the numbers game was really going to inspire them in the speeches department.
dan friesen
You kind of needed like a three-quarters Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
dan friesen
That's about where you want him to be.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You'll burn out too fast with a full Alex.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
But that same kind of energy, just a little bit lower.
jordan holmes
And if you get stuck in the weeds, you're not coming back out.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Start talking about COVID shit.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
You're fucked.
jordan holmes
One out of every ten people.
We already stopped listening, buddy.
dan friesen
Start listing off counties.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out.
Get out of here.
dan friesen
The only way to save that is you gotta start complaining about Twitter.
donald j trump
Every time I put out a tweet, even if it's totally correct, totally correct, I get a flag.
unidentified
It gets flagged.
donald j trump
I get a flag.
And they also don't let you get out.
You know, on Twitter, it's very hard to come onto my account.
It's very hard to get out a message.
They don't let the message get out.
Nearly like they should.
But I've had many people say, I can't get on your Twitter!
I don't care about Twitter.
Twitter's bad news.
They're all bad news.
dan friesen
Twitter's bad news.
jordan holmes
Twitter's bad news.
Oh, man.
How funny is it how long everybody has tried to respect the office of the president?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
How hilarious is it?
This might have all ended if TV news anchors just treated Trump the way I did, and every time he whined, just went, Oh, no!
Oh, you're so sad!
And then everybody was done.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, look, I know that generally we don't cover when, you know, Trump speeches, but often they don't play these full speeches on InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
And I...
It's...
I had to listen to this.
I'm sorry.
So that's why we're...
jordan holmes
That's why I have to listen.
dan friesen
And because there are things in it that are, like, really...
If you're listening in the audience, you kind of get a certain message, and that is that, like, Pence has got to seize power.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's our only option.
jordan holmes
Yeah, 100%.
donald j trump
And it's time that somebody did something about it, and Mike Pence, I hope you're going to stand up for the good of our Constitution and for the good of our country.
And if you're not, I'm going to be very disappointed in you, I will tell you right now.
I'm not hearing good stories.
dan friesen
He's not hearing good stories.
So, I mean, that's pretty clear, but it's even clearer here.
donald j trump
The Republicans have to get tougher.
You're not going to have a Republican Party if you don't get tougher.
They want to play so straight.
They want to play so...
Sir, yes, the United States.
The Constitution doesn't allow me to send them back to the States.
Well, I say, yes, it does.
Because the Constitution says you have to protect our country.
And you have to protect our Constitution.
And you can't vote on fraud.
And fraud breaks up everything, doesn't it?
When you catch somebody in a fraud, you're allowed to go by...
Very different rules.
jordan holmes
I should know.
I'm cheating on my wife!
donald j trump
So I hope Mike has the courage to do what he has to do.
And I hope he doesn't listen to the rhinos and the stupid people that he's listening to.
dan friesen
You know, whenever you have the president up there saying that, like, you know, Pence is the last chance to really save this and save the Constitution, he has a responsibility to do it, then Pence doesn't do that thing.
And the president has also said that when something is stolen, you're playing by a different set of rules.
It's kind of hard to not take away a message of, like, there's no rules.
The rules that are normal are gone.
jordan holmes
I do find it difficult to take a would-be strongman dictator seriously if he gives an entire speech exhorting his second-in-command.
What is a borderline honorary position?
It's to overthrow the country for him.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's a little bit sad.
dan friesen
Mixed in with petty complaints about people being rude to him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, real tough.
dan friesen
And Twitter traction.
jordan holmes
Real tough to be terrified of this, yeah.
dan friesen
But that's kind of the thing, though, is that it could easily be what blinds you to the real danger of a lot of things.
And it's easy to minimize what some real threats are because of that window dressing of...
Of like, isn't this pathetic?
jordan holmes
Yeah, sure.
dan friesen
And shit.
And I don't want to, you know, obviously.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
So we're done with Trump's speech now.
That was the most of it that is relevant.
Because Harrison comes back and he wants to throw it to a video of what's going on in Congress.
Where Mike Pence is presiding over this.
But they actually send it to the streets where Alex is bullhorning.
harrison smith
Let's go to inside the chamber here.
The report is...
unidentified
No matter what happens in 15 days!
1776!
1776!
dan friesen
So what does that mean?
jordan holmes
It doesn't have a good rhythm.
It doesn't have a good meter.
dan friesen
No, it doesn't.
jordan holmes
As far as a chant goes.
dan friesen
But also, again, he's chanting 1776.
I don't know what message you're supposed to take away from that other than overthrow the government.
jordan holmes
What happened in 1776 that he would be referencing?
dan friesen
I mean, there's that revolution.
jordan holmes
Did anything else happen, though?
dan friesen
I mean, I'm certain.
unidentified
I'm certain there were things that history has not recorded that happened.
jordan holmes
Let's see.
dan friesen
Probably someone opened a business.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would say that I think Benjamin Franklin opened up a little side gig grinding lenses.
I think that's also what happened in 1776.
dan friesen
I guarantee there was somebody in Virginia who was also like, everybody cool out!
He's not referencing that.
unidentified
1776!
The year Sam made his first beers!
jordan holmes
Sam Adams!
dan friesen
Somebody in Virginia was trying to get people to have rationality.
Calmer heads will prevail!
That's not what he's referring to.
He's talking about overthrowing the government.
unidentified
I think a diplomatic solution is in order!
dan friesen
So Alex still is not, like, great with long stretches.
He'll still end up becoming really overwhelmed by...
I mean, it's tough.
You gotta yell into a bullhorn.
jordan holmes
Bullhorning is hard.
dan friesen
So Owen's gotta come in here and there.
jordan holmes
Sure.
unidentified
The Democrats have gone so insane that they're now making the words mother and father illegal in legislative bodies.
Have you heard this?
Nancy Pelosi has proposed that the words mother and father are illegal.
Good news for Nancy Pelosi.
Donald Trump is your daddy!
dan friesen
Too good to not do twice.
unidentified
Oh boy.
dan friesen
He's into that bit.
jordan holmes
Oh man.
dan friesen
Yup.
So when I was listening to this action of Alex and Owen on the street, it really felt like they were trying to juice this crowd up.
It feels kind of like incitement.
unidentified
Ladies and gentlemen, Trump said it in his speech today.
He said the Democrats are not to get us, they want to destroy us.
They work for the globalists, they want to bring America down.
But we're not going to let them do it.
No!
This new system is a military high-tech attack and we need to understand we're under attack and we need to understand this is 21st century warfare and get on a war footing and not just take this country back!
dan friesen
So, I mean, it seems like if you're in the audience, you're probably...
This is the kind of thing that would be like what you then yell, and then you charge.
jordan holmes
How should I take the country back?
You're not giving me answers.
I'm not getting concrete answers from you.
dan friesen
Supplements.
jordan holmes
There's actually a way to take the country back in front of me, so I'm gonna go do that.
dan friesen
No, no, no, no, no, no.
You need to spread my links.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
You need to spread links to Band.video.
See, you said take the country back.
dan friesen
Right, by spreading links to Band.video and buying supplements.
jordan holmes
I left my phone in the car.
I guess I'll overthrow the government.
dan friesen
Just take a walk.
unidentified
When you get back to the car, you'll be able to just be cool.
jordan holmes
But I want one of those pictures off that fucking wall, man.
unidentified
Listen to me.
dan friesen
Listen to me.
jordan holmes
I went on a tour the other day.
And there's this picture.
No, it's on the Capitol building wall.
dan friesen
Stopping the Chinese can only be achieved by more traffic coming to my website.
I don't think you understand.
unidentified
We're at cross purposes!
We have different ideas of what 1776 looks like.
jordan holmes
In your 1776, you get rich!
I feel like that's different than mine!
dan friesen
You're trying to profiteer.
So, um...
Owen, I'm sorry, not Owen, Harrison has been pretty clear that allegedly Donald Trump has personally asked Alex to lead this march.
Now that's weird because while they're showing Alex, you can overhear a producer tell Alex that Trump told the audience at his speech that they were going to march down Pennsylvania, which Alex should know because he's supposed to be leading that march.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
President's gonna finish.
President's gonna finish in 10 minutes and he just told the crowd, "Let's walk down Pennsylvania." This is a live feed from Washington, D.C. Right now, Alex Jones and Owen Schroer speaking to a large crowd.
dan friesen
That exchange doesn't make much sense if Trump has asked Alex to...
But whatever.
I don't care.
jordan holmes
Trump is going down Pennsylvania Avenue.
Where am I?
Is this Pennsylvania?
Am I in D.C.?
dan friesen
Where am I?
Pennsylvania's a state.
jordan holmes
That's a long walk from here.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So here's where we get our first mention of the breaching of barriers.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And I think it's really interesting because these people have started to encroach over the line.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
And at the same time...
You have audio of Alex yelling about the New World Order.
On the broadcast that Harrison is trying to put together, you have really an interesting juxtaposition of these two things.
harrison smith
Mike Pence has rejected Trump's call.
He has failed to show the courage that Donald Trump was attempting to imbue in him and has begun the counting of the electoral votes.
At the same time, there's word that thousands of patriots have broken through.
The barriers around the Capitol are now moving towards it to occupy.
jordan holmes
That's on the record.
harrison smith
That's a word from Elijah Schaefer, who's on the ground.
And Alex Jones continues to speak to this crowd.
Let's go back to Alex Jones.
unidentified
The Great Awakening.
The Great Reset is triggering the Great Awakening.
alex jones
And the Great Awakening will trigger the Great Rebellion and the destruction of the New Orleans.
dan friesen
Kind of looks bad in hindsight.
A lot of this looks real bad.
jordan holmes
I just, I'm starting to see a pattern.
dan friesen
It's thematic consistency.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, a lot of the times I think the word incitement is overused.
You know, it's a very specific meaning.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is that specific meaning.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's interesting because this group does, like that Alex is leading.
Are not the same people.
That Harrison is talking about breaching these barriers.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But at the same time, Alex's group is going to go to the Capitol.
They're heading to the Capitol.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So some of the people that are in Alex's group may have gotten involved.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we'll have to.
dan friesen
At a certain point, I don't know.
jordan holmes
I mean, they would hope.
dan friesen
For the time being, these are two separate things that are happening.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
That are 100% in sync.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And to the extent that a lot of those people who were the first ones that were pictured inside.
The Capitol building were QAnon weirdos.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex is talking about the Great Awakening, which is such a trademark of the Q followers.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Something that is basically their brand.
And it's just, it's a lot.
It's a lot.
But I will say, in Alex's credit, maybe, not in Alex's credit, he's very insistent to make sure people hear him say, politically.
Non-violent.
jordan holmes
Non-violently, yeah.
harrison smith
Upwards of, as we say, estimated a million people moving to surround the Capitol.
Owen Troyer and Alex Jones now speaking through the bullhorn to the crowds who follow them.
unidentified
We're coming to the army traitors in Congress that have stabbed us in the back.
You stabbed us in the back one too many times.
We're coming with truth and justice and non-violent civil disobedience.
dan friesen
Good to get that on the record.
No, I think just after that you can hear someone say, you tell them, Alex!
jordan holmes
I think a producer also was in his ear there saying, hey, they're actually doing it.
dan friesen
I don't know how much Alex would be aware of at this point because, you know, communication would be difficult with that many people in such a tight space.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
Communication could be tough.
I know that Alex does have quite a security detail.
They probably have walkie-talkies and private bands.
So there is a chance that, and actually, spoiler alert, I know that he has somebody who's inside.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, like, I know that, like, he...
I have a hard time believing he doesn't know more than it appears.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But also, I don't know if he knows the full scope of things.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
It seems strange to me, but also not that strange, that he would be very insistent on being like, we're coming with non-violent!
All right.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that seems a little bit telling.
dan friesen
But it also seems on brand for him.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I could believe, like, because he always says, like, politically, I want to kill you politically.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, so, eh.
It's hard to say.
They're also, you know, just getting people riled up while they walk.
jordan holmes
It's fun.
unidentified
We're never surrendering!
dan friesen
Until tomorrow.
unidentified
This is our country!
This is our country, not our corrupt politicians' country!
They work for us!
And it's time to get a friendly reminder who their boss is!
The common Chinese and the globalists and Hollywood don't run this country and our children!
Do not belong to their pedophile truth!
We will not accept the recollection of that child molesting Joe Biden, that Chinese communist agent Joe Biden.
We know where he belongs, and it's not the White House.
dan friesen
So, something I think is really interesting about their dynamic, their tag team dynamic, is, like, they kind of have to do this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because Alex doesn't have the cardio to walk and carry on sentences, and simultaneously, Owen doesn't have the creativity to speak more than, like, in little bursts.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So the two of them kind of need each other as crutches.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're doing a good little two-man game here.
dan friesen
I think of it as, like, a three-legged race.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, it's no Siskel and Ebert teamwork level of complimentary parts here.
dan friesen
No, or some good trading verses and some hip-hop songs you might hear.
jordan holmes
It's not that.
dan friesen
It's not fluid.
jordan holmes
This is not definition.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No most deaf and talib quality to be found here.
dan friesen
No, but it's the same thing in terms of they need each other in order to make this work.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's blah.
harrison smith
Sad.
dan friesen
So Harrison's back in the studio and he has some other things to report.
Primarily, he's getting word that staffers are evacuating from these Capitol buildings.
harrison smith
Steve Scalise is addressing the House right now, but here is an update as of less than a minute ago.
Hill staffers have been told to...
This, again...
dan friesen
Looks bad.
jordan holmes
Looks bad.
The government is fleeing.
Alex Jones is at the head of the rebellion.
dan friesen
Well, they're going to enjoin the rebellion that is already in progress.
They're the reinforcement column that's coming in.
jordan holmes
Alex Jones is flanking the fucking Capitol building.
dan friesen
And to a certain extent, I kind of think that...
The reason that it's being presented like this is they still think this is going to stop.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, of course.
dan friesen
They still think they're not going to get inside.
jordan holmes
Everybody thinks that someone will stop these people.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
But because there's still this, like, eh, kind of vibe, this is all very positive.
unidentified
This is a historic day, ladies and gentlemen.
harrison smith
Incredible things happening there.
Storming D.C. Patriots are rushing and surrounding the Capitol.
They're tearing down barriers.
Police are struggling to maintain the crowd.
Mace and punches being thrown back and forth.
Two House buildings have been evacuated.
The House Cannon building and the House Madison building have both been issued evacuation orders.
Pence has said he cannot reject electoral votes outright, but the Congress themselves are objecting right now to the Arizona votes.
dan friesen
The vibe is really positive.
You know, this is someone who's, like, really pumped to see what's happening.
jordan holmes
This is great.
This will never go wrong.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And I know that now there are a lot of people who are trying to make arguments that this was Antifa, certainly.
jordan holmes
Oh, it was super Antifa.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a lot of folks who have been on that tip, but immediately, as everything is unfolding, Harrison wants you to know that this is not Antifa.
jordan holmes
These are the patriots.
harrison smith
This is not Black Lives Matter, folks.
This is not Antifa.
These are patriots.
And perhaps they've finally boiled over.
You see the air filled with the mist of mace, the stinging gas that the police will be implementing and that is also being implemented against the police as patriots.
Wow.
dan friesen
So, I mean, he's being very clear that, and if you watch the video, there are people who are macing cops, which is, you know, that's violence.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So check that just for later.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's very clear.
This is, no, this is us.
jordan holmes
This is us.
dan friesen
This is our guys.
jordan holmes
We take responsibility.
dan friesen
They finally had enough.
He's celebrating almost.
jordan holmes
Of course he is.
dan friesen
There's a celebratory vibe.
jordan holmes
Of course it is.
harrison smith
American Nationalists on Twitter asking President Trump to storm the Senate chamber.
This day is young, folks, and who knows what the future holds for us.
Again, Elijah Schaefer reports patriots have stormed the Capitol building, ground, and are breaching federal barriers and police en masse.
dan friesen
Yeah, who knows what the day will bring.
Maybe exactly what you're talking about.
jordan holmes
Could be exactly what you're saying is what you want to happen might happen.
dan friesen
Yeah, and he's pretty consistently calling these people patriots.
harrison smith
Thousands, hundreds of thousands of people right now moving towards the Capitol.
The mass of humanity continues to grow as the police lash out their thin line of armored officers, a pitiful resistance against the literal tidal wave moving towards them.
dan friesen
There's a pitiful resistance against these patriots.
They're so strong.
Now, this is Harrison reporting on what he's seeing, because he has access to a lot of different information streams.
Alex may or may not.
So now we go to Alex on the street, where everyone is chanting, Fight for Trump!
unidentified
Cool.
harrison smith
Chants of Fight for Trump ring out surrounding Alex Jones and Owen Schroer and the rest of the Infowars crew as they move towards the Capitol.
Here we see a view from inside the Capitol of staffers there moving down the stairs following that evacuation order.
dan friesen
You can't not see this as, like...
Sure.
Like people who are fighting for Trump.
Right.
unidentified
And a group of people that are being led by Alex who are chanting, fight for Trump.
dan friesen
Seems to be the same.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's weird.
It's very weird.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would...
dan friesen
Thematic consistency.
jordan holmes
I would want this back.
unidentified
Mulligan.
jordan holmes
I would like a mulligan on today.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I don't think they can get that.
dan friesen
This show looks bad.
It's one part because Harrison Smith is hosting and he's terrible, but another part because, like, I mean...
You could draw your own conclusions.
I don't think that it would be wise or even sensible to say that Alex inspired a lot of these actions.
Sure.
Like we already said, a lot of the people who were the first photographed folks who were there who had gotten in were Q folks, and they hate Alex.
It's easy to, if you don't have an awareness of those worlds, to think like, oh, it's all the same.
It is not.
Those people do not listen to Alex.
There are similar information spheres in terms of a lot of the themes and the narratives and the stories that they tell and the reality that they believe in, but they are not the same group.
jordan holmes
Now...
dan friesen
At the same time, past Infowars guests like Nick Fuentes and Baked Alaska were both in the offices.
Right.
Live streaming.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And that's a little bit fucked up.
jordan holmes
They're Antifa.
Did you know that?
They were deep state secret Antifa agents that this entire time have been inspired.
Not just...
See, the problem was they wanted deep state Antifa agents to inspire right-wing violence, right?
But there wasn't any right-wing violence, Dan.
dan friesen
Oh, I see.
jordan holmes
It never existed, so they had to create it from the ground up.
dan friesen
I've got a conspiracy for you.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
Where do you live?
jordan holmes
I live down the way.
dan friesen
What city?
jordan holmes
Chicago.
dan friesen
What city is Nick Fuentes living in?
jordan holmes
Chicago?
dan friesen
Uh-oh.
jordan holmes
No way!
dan friesen
You're Nick Fuentes?
unidentified
I am!
jordan holmes
Nick Quintas!
unidentified
Shit!
dan friesen
Stop yelling.
unidentified
Sorry.
dan friesen
It's alright.
That deserved a yell.
So, this all just looks...
It all looks really, really bad.
And especially thinking about the people...
It's sometimes tough for people to get over their frustration with elected officials and feel too much empathy for them.
But then you think about people who are just staffers and people who are just on the job and the terror that a lot of them probably felt.
Being whisked away to secure locations.
I can't even imagine what that would be like.
And it's really fucked up to know that that is what a lot of people are experiencing, and for this just to be like, they're kind of relishing it.
Yeah.
And Harrison is as well, on air.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now, in the least unexpected thing ever, Trump is not going to the Capitol after he said, we're all going to the Capitol.
jordan holmes
No, they're all going to the Capitol!
harrison smith
Huge, almost unprecedented crowd is moving towards...
The Capitol, as we speak, as the debate rages inside.
President Trump has apparently returned to the White House.
That's the word that we're receiving from Washington.
He said he was going to go to the Capitol, but it looks like he's gone to the White House instead.
Many people on Twitter encouraging him to storm the Senate along with his supporters.
And what we're seeing here are the independent journalist videos as Trump supporters move once again inexorably towards the Capitol building.
dan friesen
Yeah, I wonder why he would send everybody towards the Capitol and then not go there himself.
jordan holmes
That seems crazy.
That just seems crazy.
Because he's their fearless leader, dude.
dan friesen
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
You know, he's the one at the...
No, they're willing to die for this man because he's willing to die for them.
dan friesen
Yeah.
This dude is a fucking pot stirrer.
So, you remember that ragtime music that was playing earlier?
The joyous tone that Rob Du was describing?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That vibe has changed.
jordan holmes
Oh, it's changed?
Oh, no more flappers dancing?
harrison smith
Nope.
The joyous, you know, upbeat atmosphere of the event earlier today has soured and turned to rage as the fury of...
Trump supporters and patriots across the United States overflows and expresses itself on the outside of the Capitol.
dan friesen
So the editorial tone, it appears to me to be pretty consistently righteous indignation.
That is what is motivating this, and they are right to do this.
They are right to storm the Capitol, and Trump should be right there with them.
jordan holmes
Are you saying that the Founding Fathers were wrong?
dan friesen
Mike Pence wouldn't stop this, so someone's got to, or else the Constitution has been...
Pissed upon.
jordan holmes
Mike Pence is King George.
We gotta take him out.
dan friesen
So the vibe is just excitement, kind of, about this, because there's nothing Harrison can really do other than be the guy who's calling it.
I'm the guy who gets to be on air while this is going on.
harrison smith
And again, this was as of 24 minutes ago, and since then we've seen 24 minutes of rising aggression, rising crowds, more police, building evacuations.
And the reaction from across the nation is largely excitement, as far as I'm concerned.
This is, again, truly incredible, and we'll continue to update and bring you more videos.
dan friesen
The vibe is excitement.
harrison smith
Yeah.
dan friesen
It was not the vibe that I was getting.
I took a slightly different temperature from the country based on the sense I was getting.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it seemed like everybody soured real quick.
Everybody was like, oh, this is...
Oh, no.
Oh, no, that's not...
Oh, no, I didn't want that.
dan friesen
I saw a lot of people responding in ways that were kind of like, oh.
Oh, my.
Like, I can't believe I didn't see this possibility coming.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think it's a little different.
jordan holmes
Which is very funny from...
Where I'm sitting.
dan friesen
Sure.
But, I mean, at the same time, I think that had this not have happened this week, you and I would have had a show where we would have said, ah, another dumb rally.
What do you expect is going to happen?
It's more just edging towards the hope that something like this would happen.
I'm not surprised that it did, but I'm shocked.
Do you know that?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I think that there's a lot of people who are surprised.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I see a lot of, like...
Scales falling from people's eyes.
And it would be easy to respond to that with some kind of a flippant, like, I told you so, or, you know, like, ah, get on our left.
I'm glad that I haven't seen a lot of that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because I think that that's really counterproductive.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
dan friesen
And I hope that people who...
jordan holmes
I mean, I did tell you so, though.
dan friesen
If you want to engage in that, that's your business.
jordan holmes
That was facetious.
dan friesen
I know, I know.
jordan holmes
Come on.
dan friesen
I think that if people see right-wing extremists storming the White House, and they're like, oh, this is what people have been talking about for a while.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
That is fucked up.
jordan holmes
All right.
Okay.
unidentified
Great.
dan friesen
No need to shame anybody, as long as they remember that this is a problem.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Tomorrow, too.
Yes.
It didn't stop yesterday.
unidentified
No.
No.
dan friesen
And it doesn't, and today, I mean, spoiler alert.
We don't know what Alex's response is to it, but Trump is basically Been like, alright, whatever, it's over.
jordan holmes
It reminded me...
dan friesen
And that doesn't end it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, no, no, no.
dan friesen
That does not end the problem.
jordan holmes
The reaction to it reminded me so much of...
My partner was watching a documentary the other day, and one of the bad guys, it was like a crime documentary about a small town that had gone rogue with the police department and the sheriff's department, and she was like, can you believe this?
This guy thinks that the sheriff is the highest constitutional power in the land, and I was like, baby!
You ain't got no idea.
dan friesen
Let me tell you about one-sixth of the country.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and that's what I'm saying.
All these people watch this, and it's the same reaction of like, I know you thought that that couldn't be real.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, but it is.
dan friesen
One-sixth of the country is too high.
I was desperately grasping for a number, and that's what came to my head.
jordan holmes
This is why Trump can't do rallies anymore.
dan friesen
Too many numbers.
But it comes down to, for Harrison, though, again, is just righteous indignation.
That is the name of the game.
harrison smith
What we do know is that the Washington establishment is scrambling any and all officers they have at their command in order to deal with this massive outpouring of anger, fury, and righteous indignation coming from the Trump supporters.
You can there see we have the Fox News feed up, and even they are...
Having trouble maintaining the integrity of their signal.
dan friesen
So yeah, it's just righteous indignation.
These people have been pushed to the point where this response is the only thing that can be done.
jordan holmes
You have created an imaginary reality wherein I have been pushed too far.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
So there's rallies going on in other states as well.
There's some fucked up stuff happening elsewhere.
Harrison covers this and then says something pretty scary.
harrison smith
Los Angeles, as well, a Stop the Steal rally lining the streets.
Hundreds of Trump supporters, people cheering it on on Twitter, saying, drag him out, saying, go into the Capitol building and drag the traitors out.
dan friesen
That does not seem like something that could have been impossible.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Had things gone slightly differently, I could see.
Some harm coming to representatives and Congress members.
jordan holmes
No, there were people walking around with zip ties.
dan friesen
I saw those pictures.
I didn't have a chance to look into them enough to feel really confident, but that was really scary.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the people who tweeted them out, I trust enough to not be like, I have to go search down every...
dan friesen
No, totally.
I just, for my...
Totally.
I can't back that 100% of my own looking into it.
jordan holmes
You didn't do your reason.
dan friesen
But I don't think it's fake.
I just don't know enough.
But that's scary as hell.
Even the possibility that is what someone was up to.
Gonna take hostages or some shit.
Put a citizen's arrest on Chuck Schumer or something.
Like, it's terrifying.
Wow.
I guess we have slightly different takes.
jordan holmes
No, I understand.
It is terrifying, but it is also deeply funny.
That's the problem.
That's where I'm struggling with this.
Because we are looking at a group of people who stormed the fucking Capitol building.
But we are also looking at a series of pictures of people smoking weed in Nancy Pelosi's office.
So that's deeply funny.
Sorry.
dan friesen
So Harrison is going on, and I just can't hear this as anything other than just like, this is really positive coverage.
harrison smith
There are people such as Dana Lash saying stop this to Trump supporters who are moving towards the Capitol.
Other people saying get in there and tear them out.
Oh, here we see, my God, these images are just incredible.
Massive numbers of patriots storming the Capitol building.
Texas flags waving.
American flags waving, and masses of humanity have apparently broken past the police barricades, which were keeping them off the steps and away from the Capitol building.
They have been torn down, and the people have moved onto that radio station.
dan friesen
So, at this point, you know, we don't have people inside.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But you do have...
An awareness that there are people who are a large mass of folks who are not seeming to have all that much resistance from the authorities.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Who are making their way towards the Capitol building.
You have people online who are expressing a desire for people to be dragged out.
You have people who want Trump to come and lead a charge on the Senate.
So you have that awareness.
And when you have that...
In the sort of context of what's going on, you hear a clip like this and you're like, you just want somebody to kill.
You just want somebody to kill someone you don't like.
harrison smith
Incredible.
unidentified
This crowd continues to swell.
harrison smith
What was it?
I mean, I've lost track of time.
I think it was less than an hour ago.
An hour ago.
That President Trump finished his speech in that massive crowd of hundreds of thousands, probably upwards of a million people, surrounding the Washington Monument and all the way to the White House, finished watching that speech by President Trump and moved towards the U.S. Capitol.
Here we see an update from Ilhan Omar.
Current scene in the Capitol.
Buildings are locked down and everyone is sheltering in place.
Hey, so look, that's where Ilhan Omar is, everyone.
Just kidding.
jordan holmes
A what?
dan friesen
No, just kidding.
unidentified
A what now?
dan friesen
That's not just kidding.
The joke is, hey, from this vantage point, you can tell where she is.
harrison smith
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know that there are tons of people who are storming the Capitol building.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And now you're saying, hey, wouldn't it be fun if one of you...
Wouldn't it be fun?
It's just joking.
That's where she is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's...
dan friesen
This person who we've expressed extensive hatred for.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
Even if I believed somebody was joking when they said that, that's poor taste.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
And he's not joking.
jordan holmes
And he's not joking.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
So don't give me this just JK bullshit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I would say that Harrison is pragmatic to a fault.
And that is that he does not care at all about the people in the Congress building.
harrison smith
Sure.
dan friesen
And to a certain extent, I kind of get where he's coming from in terms of, like, there are safety precautions in place.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, there are evacuation routes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There are, you know.
So I get where he's coming from.
It doesn't seem super callous, I guess.
But he is just like, eh, who cares?
The people inside aren't in any danger.
harrison smith
The congressmen and women and senators I don't think are at much of a threat, we know.
There's one thing they take very, very seriously.
It is their own personal well-being and their own security.
There are tunnels, of course, crisscrossing like spiderwebs throughout all of D.C., and there's almost no risk of them having to try to escape through a crowd or having to bunker down in the Capitol building.
They have escape routes more than they need.
So, again, I do not think there's actually a bodily threat to anybody in the chambers at this moment.
They don't seem too concerned.
They're continuing to argue, continuing to debate without so much as a look over their shoulder as to, the doors being broke down or anything like that this is simply a massive protest that is refusing to stay quiet any longer that is making themselves known that is not stopping at the barricades not kowtowing and
dan friesen
No, same way.
unidentified
Same way.
dan friesen
I seem to recall when, over the summer, when there were those large fences that people were up against and, like, you know, yelling at cops.
And maybe somebody threw a water bottle.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
Oh, that water bottle was a dangerous instrument.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Then it wasn't, you know, a situation where everyone's safe inside.
They've got evacuation routes.
Right, right.
I don't know.
It just seems a little bit selective.
jordan holmes
I do like the they have more escape tunnels than they need.
That's such a funny way of putting it.
dan friesen
They're lousy with escape tunnels.
jordan holmes
That is such a funny way.
They've got more than they even need.
This is the type of thing we're wasting taxpayers' money on.
Too many escape tunnels.
dan friesen
They've got four that don't go anywhere.
jordan holmes
It's like that Futurama joke where they're carrying the tanker full of oil and he's like, this has 5,000 hulls!
And whenever it breaks open, it's like, oh, if only there were 5,001 hulls!
dan friesen
It would be great if there's so many escape tunnels down here.
They go in circles.
It's just pointless.
jordan holmes
It's just out of control.
dan friesen
So now...
jordan holmes
That's where all...
If the Capitol building turned into the Scooby-Doo bit, where they're all going up through the tunnel and exiting one door and then closing it and then coming back out off.
dan friesen
That'd be great.
jordan holmes
So good.
dan friesen
So at this point, people have breached the building.
And this is where I think a lot of people around the country and the world were like, oh, fuck.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
harrison smith
Senators, the vice president, the congressmen, now no doubt making their way towards the security of the underground tunnels to escort them away.
From the threat of their supposed constituents, angry, furious, and now venting that frustration on the system that has betrayed them time and time again.
This is just incredible, folks.
You're watching InfoWars.
dan friesen
So you've got people who have come in and the evacuation, they're afraid of their constituents.
It's an interesting way to frame it.
jordan holmes
There's a certain part of me that almost is like...
Good on you for sticking with it longer than most of the right-wing media did.
You know, like, they were already at the point where they're like, this is wrong and all this stuff, and Harrison Smith is like, this is what we...
Guys, this is what we wanted, remember?
dan friesen
I want to disagree with the phrasing, good on you, but what you're trying to say, I agree with.
It's remarkable that you are still on this train.
jordan holmes
You're still on it, buddy.
Everybody, you...
dan friesen
At this point, everyone was cutting bait.
jordan holmes
What you didn't realize is that you thought everybody was in a line right next to you, and you...
I took one step forward, and they are gone.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
No, no.
There's nobody behind me.
dan friesen
Yeah, no.
Harrison is thrilled, and it's a privilege for him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
harrison smith
At least, I would say, my estimation, a million Trump supporters having moved from throughout D.C. and are now converging on the Capitol.
This is revolution in progress.
This is a major historic moment in the history of the United States.
It is a privilege and an honor to be here sharing it with you and bringing you updates just as soon as possible.
dan friesen
I suspect that he may be more of a true believer than a lot of people at Infowars.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds like true belief.
dan friesen
And I also think he's a dork.
jordan holmes
Uh, yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
I'm just saying, yes, it is a historic moment, but it will probably be remembered more for an idiot in a headdress smiling carrying a podium than the...
dan friesen
There will be a resonant image.
Yeah.
But in order to justify a lot of this, I think Harrison probably has a good sense that, like, people aren't going to like this too much.
Going to have to make this palatable to some of the more normie parts of the audience, as if Infowars has a lot of that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, no, a ton of them.
dan friesen
The only way that they can do this is by being like, the left protests a lot, and CVS is burned down and stuff.
harrison smith
We've seen six months or more.
Of violent protest, burning down entire cities, aimless, pointless destruction being wrought across the United States by liberal and communist agitators, all to the point of trying to tear down our system.
Now we see not the system fight back, but those who love America fight back.
Patriots now taking over the entire Capitol steps, continuing to wave the American flag, the Gadsden flag, the Tree of Liberty flag, the Trump flag.
They've taken it over.
It is done.
This is what happens when Americans rise up.
This is what happens when patriots do what the communists have been trying to do for so long.
dan friesen
This doesn't look great.
jordan holmes
I want them to eat those words.
I would like to print those words out and I would like to see them eat those papers.
dan friesen
I don't think this is going to age great.
I think Alex might be needing to fire Harrison soon, and it's not because he didn't take calls on the American Journal.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
I think that this is something Alex is...
jordan holmes
It's because he will be getting some calls from the authorities.
dan friesen
I think at a certain point Alex might have to pretend a lot of this stuff didn't...
This wasn't what we did.
jordan holmes
This is a rogue InfoWars employer who is saying all of this stuff.
dan friesen
I don't know, Harrison.
jordan holmes
The views expressed by Harrison Smith do not represent...
dan friesen
I never met that guy.
jordan holmes
Never heard of him.
He's an independent contractor.
Did you know that, Dan?
dan friesen
Yeah, he found the Soros contract.
Anyway, this is all just the globalists, man.
They've pushed patriots too far.
I have in my note here, this is dramatically pro-storming coverage.
harrison smith
Time and time again, the American people have shrugged and taken the blows on the back without so much as a whimper in protest.
But finally...
They have pushed too far.
After stealing our last resort, we always knew in the back of our minds, in the back of our heads, we had the numbers, we had the will, we could, through the electoral process, maintain some semblance of control over what is supposed to be our representative democracy, our republic.
Well, they stole that from us.
They took away the final lifeline.
They destroyed the final pressure valve.
And now the rage of the American people overflows as patriots storm into the United States Capitol.
Waving Trump flags, waving American flags, waving the Gadsden flag, taking over the steps, pushing through the doors, and forcing an evacuation of our representatives as they halt the vote counting process.
dan friesen
He's loving this.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
This is the best day of Harrison's career.
jordan holmes
It is so funny listening to that in retrospect, just because that, like, this is an ocean wave that's coming, and all I can think in my head is no.
You guys have been terrorist edging for a long time, and your idiots came too soon.
That's what happened.
dan friesen
Yeah, and you're going to end up having to make the best of it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think that Alex can get that sense once he shows up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But Harrison isn't experienced enough.
He doesn't really know how to play the game that Alex needs to play in order to be profitable in situations like this.
jordan holmes
This is going to take some fine threading, if you will.
dan friesen
Because Harrison actually believes that there's a chance that this is going to lead to a real revolution.
jordan holmes
We're going to do it.
We're going to take him over.
dan friesen
Trump is going to stay in office.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Nonsense.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, he tries to go to Alex, because Alex is in D.C. somewhere.
What are we going to figure this out?
Doesn't really...
Can't quite get a hold of...
Got to go to break.
alex jones
But Americans are mad, and so when they stage elections in Venezuela...
harrison smith
Live updates from Alex Jones.
More on the other side.
The Capitol has fallen.
dan friesen
The Patriots are in control.
The Capitol has fallen.
So he's able to get a hold of Alex there, but he can't talk to him.
Alex is just rambling.
unidentified
Hilarious.
dan friesen
So they go to break.
The fucking capital has fallen, is the report.
jordan holmes
You know, one thing that I like to do is sometimes while the craziest shit is going on, I'll split screen it on my computer with just like a stock feed.
The capital has fallen.
Patriots have taken over.
Stocks go up by like...
One point.
Like, no.
Do you think the stocks would just stay the same if the entire United States had been overthrown?
dan friesen
Well, I mean...
jordan holmes
And patriots had...
Come on.
dan friesen
I know that the stock market lives and dies by the reportage of Harrison Smith.
Yes, exactly.
He's the most trusted newsman of our generation.
unidentified
So...
dan friesen
The Cronkite.
jordan holmes
So...
The paper of record.
dan friesen
Millennial Cronkite.
jordan holmes
That's what they call him.
dan friesen
The young gray lady.
jordan holmes
Old wolf in sheep's clothing blitzer.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Harrison has a little thought here.
It's like, hey, we stopped the steal.
harrison smith
Just the sheer crowds all over the Capitol steps, waving stop the steal signs, waving American flags.
For the time being, at least, the steal has been stopped.
We're no longer counting the votes.
No longer debating the certification.
It has all ground to a halt.
It has all ceased to continue as the lawmakers and the other Capitol Hill staffers flee.
dan friesen
I just have this picture in my head of Harrison Smith in a fighter pilot out here.
On an aircraft carrier with a big banner.
jordan holmes
Yes, totally.
100%.
dan friesen
Steel stopped.
Big banner behind it.
jordan holmes
I don't know if we can print up a better Dewey defeats Trubin than we stopped the steel.
dan friesen
At least he had the good sense to say at least temporarily.
unidentified
At least temporarily.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say.
Good work, buddy.
dan friesen
So there's some stuff going on and it involves protesters.
Right-wing ding-dongs assaulting officers, and Harrison's pretty excited about that.
harrison smith
My God, now the protesters have gotten their hands on fire extinguishers and are spraying them at the people, the congressional staffers and members of the media who are attempting to film them.
They're getting a face full of fire extinguisher gas as police continue to radio, and we heard...
Over the radio from the U.S. Capitol Police, we have lost control.
Repeat, we have lost control.
Control now ceded to the patriots who have breached the Capitol.
dan friesen
Alex did, like, days worth of coverage about people yelling at Sarah Huckabee Sanders at a restaurant.
jordan holmes
They made her feel bad.
They made her feel bad.
dan friesen
It was public.
jordan holmes
Every private citizen is entitled to the right to go eat at a restaurant.
dan friesen
What if they had sprayed her with a fire extinguisher?
jordan holmes
Well, now that's fine.
What, is she afraid of her constituents, Dan?
dan friesen
Strictly speaking, that is assault.
And we've already heard him talking about punching and macing coming towards the officers.
So that's at least three instances that Harrison is very keenly aware of, of violence that's being done by these people against the cops.
Now, I mean, like, obviously...
No situation is perfect at any protest.
And I don't think that you can, like, respond to the entirety of the group just based on the actions of an individual.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But those people should definitely have been treated differently.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because what they're doing is not appropriate.
And it's not property damage that is directed towards bodily harm and hurting another person, which is now assault.
Anyway, I just want to make a clear line there because...
Harrison later will pretend that he's not aware of any violence.
jordan holmes
No, no violent actions happen.
dan friesen
So, also, interestingly, Harrison's thrilled that they've stolen police equipment.
harrison smith
Control now ceded to the patriots who have breached the Capitol and are moving ever more, you know, ever farther into this Capitol building.
People dressed as pioneers, people carrying riot shields that have been stripped from the Capitol City police.
MAGA hats, Confederate flags, American flags, Gadsden flags.
dan friesen
I just can't imagine the picture.
Left-wing protesters have stolen riot shields from police and they've entered the state out.
I can't imagine you being like, this is protesting.
You would say this is America's fallen or whatever the fuck.
But I guess he is actually saying America's fallen.
We've now taken it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're stoked about it.
dan friesen
I guess there isn't that much difference, honestly.
jordan holmes
Yeah, man.
Weird to think of the number of dead that there would have been if this was a left-wing crowd.
dan friesen
Oh, the people who are...
jordan holmes
So many people would have been killed.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think you're right.
It's tough to litigate that kind of what-if.
jordan holmes
It is, but yeah.
You know that whole, like, how is it that so many people could do this?
I thought if you went for the Capitol building, you would just get mowed down.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know?
If this was a left-wing protest, oh, believe me, you would have.
dan friesen
It seems that way.
Yeah.
So Harrison's still giving positive coverage of this event, and at this point, he does know that they've shot tear gas in the chamber, and he's kind of aware that someone got shot.
He doesn't know any of the details about it, but he's aware that there's reports that someone's been shot, and he's still like, eh, it's good times.
harrison smith
From Disclosed TV, protesters are smashing the doors to the U.S. House chamber.
That's the image that we saw just a second ago of the furniture being piled up in an attempt to Prevent or at least waylay or delay the breaking into the House chamber there.
U.S. Senate chamber has been evacuated and senators are being taken to a secure location.
House members are being instructed to put on masks as tear gas is now inside the U.S. Capitol Dome, folks.
This is, again, unprecedented.
This is history being made as we speak.
dan friesen
So this is like severe.
The situation has deteriorated to an outrageous extent.
And Harrison's still definitely cool with it.
To the point where he's saying, like, yeah, they're rioting, but good.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
We took back the Capitol.
unidentified
Cool.
harrison smith
The security of the Capitol building has been utterly devastated and decimated, and the rioter...
Well, yeah, I guess we'll call them rioters.
Why the hell not, right?
The rioters, the protesters, the patriots, the Americans, the Trump supporters, the revolutionaries have taken the Capitol.
The U.S. Capitol has fallen to the American people.
This day will go down in history, ladies and gentlemen, and you're getting it all live here at InfoWars.com.
dan friesen
Make no mistake about it, this would still be the tone if it had been successful.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, totally.
jordan holmes
It would have been more jubilant.
dan friesen
Yes.
This would have continued if shit did not fall apart.
And people didn't just leave.
jordan holmes
I want to bottle the feeling of joy that he felt for almost a short period of time.
Because that must have been really nice.
dan friesen
Yeah, but it also comes hand in hand with the embarrassment that he's got to feel now because this was recorded.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah.
That's why I would only bottle the joy and I would enjoy that like a cold glass of water.
dan friesen
Sorry.
jordan holmes
That joy is delicious.
dan friesen
That joy causes the hangover.
jordan holmes
Harrison, you can keep the embarrassment and sadness of being you.
dan friesen
Unfortunately, that joy has the hangover effect of realizing you were so naive.
jordan holmes
So fucking stupid.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Anyway, at this point, Harrison has heard...
He didn't mention it in that last clip, but he is aware at that point that someone had been shot.
And so now he's reporting that he's heard that someone got shot in the arm.
harrison smith
Just got this information not confirmed, but we have reports of a woman shot in the arm attempting to breach the chamber.
So we have guns drawn inside the chamber, furniture piled against the door.
The security is firing out through the door and has apparently shot a woman in the arm.
dan friesen
So this is the reporting that he's giving based on preliminary.
Which is incorrect, but oftentimes, as information's coming in, you can make some mistakes here and there.
I'm not going to hold it against him too harshly.
I am going to blame him for being so goddamn boring.
I've got to assure you all, Alex will be coming back eventually.
We'll get to Alex.
jordan holmes
How can you think that you are living through a successful overthrow of the United States government by your side and still be this boring?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Well, I mean, on some level, he knows he took over for David Knight.
unidentified
Well, that's fair.
dan friesen
He knows where the bread's buttered.
jordan holmes
He's got to deliver.
He's got big shoes to fill.
dan friesen
Alex probably hired him.
He's like, I need a boring guy.
jordan holmes
I need another boring guy.
I need a backup boring guy in case my...
dan friesen
You're my boring understudy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're my relief pitcher.
dan friesen
So at this point, there's a video going around of some people commandeering a window washing rig.
And Harrison's fucking pumped.
harrison smith
Oh, my God.
This is amazing.
All right, so now we're seeing video of the protesters.
They seem to have commandeered a window-washing platform and are raising themselves up to the second floor to perhaps breach the windows there.
Trump flags waving, American flags waving.
Shots have been fired.
We have reports of one woman shot from a protester.
A female protester has been shot by the Capitol Security, presumably, who is inside the House chamber there.
Furniture piled up against the door.
There were protesters trying to get through that door.
Shots were fired through the window of that door and seemingly struck a protester.
These are the unconfirmed reports that we were receiving from less than a minute ago.
And we'll continue to bring you updates as we get them, folks.
This is The Revolution.
And it's only going to be televised on Infowars.com.
I'm receiving updates.
dan friesen
What a dork.
jordan holmes
Oh, what a loser.
What a loser.
dan friesen
You really think this is only going to be covered by Infowars?
jordan holmes
So funny.
What a fucking...
We are getting reports that the Death Star is going down.
Oh no, I can see it.
Luke Skywalker has commandeered a window-washing vehicle and he is slowly making his way towards the exhaust port.
We are going to be televising this the entire way.
dan friesen
I love this dumb, dumbass kind of thing where it would be like, Richard Nixon has resigned.
That's the kind of news you're only going to hear on my channel.
No, everyone's going to cover that.
jordan holmes
Ladies and gentlemen, I am sad to report that JFK...
Has been assassinated.
dan friesen
You'll not hear that on other networks.
jordan holmes
You are only going to hear that on Infowars.
No one else is saying shit about it.
dan friesen
Yeah, pretending this isn't like a gigantic news story that is going to dominate every news cycle for a while.
jordan holmes
So ridiculous.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So at this point, Harrison, I don't know exactly how it happens, maybe by way of images or a video, but Harrison comes to the realization that this shooting is worse.
Then he had realized.
And this is not someone's arm.
jordan holmes
Now we're not having fun.
dan friesen
The tone shifts dramatically and very, very noticeably.
harrison smith
And here we see the bloody stretcher and a woman, oh my gosh, putting pressure on a wound.
It looked like, we heard her before, she was shot in the arm.
That looked like she was shot in the chest, perhaps the collarbone, but absolutely covered in blood as she's rushed away from the Capitol.
This may be the first casualty of the second American Revolution.
This woman who is presumably, oh my god, and they're pumping her chest.
That means she was most likely unresponsive.
That woman may have died or at least sustained a critical energy.
dan friesen
So Harrison, I don't know if he knows how to handle a lot of this stuff.
This is pretty, this is tough.
Because you've been spending your entire day.
Sort of teasing people towards doing something like this.
Celebrating as it happens.
And now the reality that someone has been shot and is probably dead.
It's tough.
It's tough to cover all of that.
unidentified
Especially when you're someone like Harrison who just doesn't have the skills.
jordan holmes
It is in the real world.
In his world.
In the world that they all believe in.
That should be expected.
That should be an expected casualty of your fucking revolution?
Are you telling me that you think you're going to overthrow a fucking country and then you're going to get all whingy and sad when someone gets shot and dies?
Fuck off!
dan friesen
And I think there's some decent instincts on Harrison's part with saying the first casualty of the American Revolution.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what you should be saying.
dan friesen
That's him keeping it in the pocket of the patriot lore.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
That he needs to build in real time in order...
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
But at the same time...
I don't, from an emotional standpoint and from a performance standpoint, I don't see him being able to keep up his character.
jordan holmes
No, no, because it's a character.
dan friesen
And because this is someone's dead.
jordan holmes
I understand that somebody's dead.
In the real world, that's a fucking tragedy.
What I'm saying is that these people are imagining themselves as fucking revolutionaries and then they all quit and cried because somebody died.
Well, you cannot scream 1776 at me and then be like, whoa, somebody got shot?
Oh my god!
dan friesen
Well, I can explain Alex's angle on it much better as soon as he comes around.
Harrison's a little bit more of a mystery to me, and I think, I am not entirely sure...
I just don't think he's very good.
jordan holmes
No, he sucks.
dan friesen
He's supposed to be doing a job, and I just don't think he does very well.
And that's why you gotta get Alex and Owen on the phone.
Shit's getting real.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So they get on the phone, and Owen's trying to talk to Harrison, his good friend who saw him in that video.
You know, they're buddies.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're great.
dan friesen
Alex just keeps yelling in the background, contradicting the entire day's coverage.
unidentified
Love it.
dan friesen
I'm on air right now.
alex jones
So basically, okay.
unidentified
The city is going under martial law.
alex jones
We caught anti-provocateurs.
We witnessed this and the footage.
It first started the storming, but then triggered all this.
dan friesen
so So, Alex is going to be breaking that down momentarily.
Yeah, in a moment, Alex is going to be explaining that Antifa did all this.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Because now we've got to figure out a way to not have any kind of involvement.
This is going to look bad.
We've got to thread this needle, baby.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
These white people are so fucking entitled, they think they're entitled to a revolution without getting hurt.
dan friesen
Or looking bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
So Alex is decreeing in the background, yelling while Owen's on the phone, that they're going commercial-free.
unidentified
They can't go commercial-free on all shows, commercial-free.
I'm telling you folks, this is historic.
alex jones
They've declared basically martial law.
They're sending in a National Guard.
It's absolutely insane.
All because of Antifa.
The minute Trump announced he was going to come speak.
Antifa, dressed up like Patriot, but with knee pads and arm pads, attacked the police to stage the trigger event.
So they triggered this stampede.
unidentified
We have the witnesses.
alex jones
We have the footage.
dan friesen
I guess at this point he had taken the phone from Owen, which is probably smart.
jordan holmes
It would be smart because Owen clearly doesn't have the lines yet.
dan friesen
No, no.
And Alex can just rattle off this narrative without anything.
jordan holmes
No, no.
And it could be a switch that he flips instantly and just be like, oh, are we doing Antifa now?
Okay, I'll switch to my Antifa rambling nonsense.
dan friesen
Yep.
And I don't think, if I have my timeline right, the National Guard definitely had not been at this point.
jordan holmes
No, they had not.
dan friesen
No.
But...
This is tough, because this is a direct contradiction of Harrison's narrative that he's been building for hours at this point, watching this event happen live.
This is patriots who have righteous indignation.
They've been pushed too far.
No, it's not.
It's Antifa provocateur-ing.
And they're the ones who stormed things.
The patriots were trying to keep it peaceful.
They had not had enough.
They could put up with much more.
So now we have two completely contradictory narratives.
Now, Owen is on the same phone call with Alex, and he is there.
He's contradicting Alex.
jordan holmes
He's got number three.
unidentified
It's so tough to really put this into perspective, because here's the deal.
We're not violent revolutionaries, but they've taken our country.
Our country is occupied, and you can debate all day long what the appropriate response is.
The point is, we finally have a response, and we haven't had any fight in our Congress.
We haven't had any fight in our legislatures.
And so this is what's going to happen is we the people are going to have to fight.
Again, we did not come here as violent revolutionaries, but the history is definitely being made right now.
jacob chansley
I don't know if today is the turning point that will change the course of American history or if this is just the nexus.
dan friesen
So this is a direct contradiction of Alex.
He's closer to the narrative that Harrison has been selling throughout the day.
This is Patriot to have had enough.
Now, the thing that I have a difficult time with is, like, we can have different opinions about, like, I don't know.
Whether pasta's good.
Like, maybe you don't like it.
jordan holmes
Who, you and me?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's sort of opinion.
jordan holmes
We have differences.
dan friesen
Yeah, but we both agree that pasta exists.
jordan holmes
I begrudgingly admit that, yes.
dan friesen
They have...
Fundamental contradictions about the reality of what has happened and what it means and everything.
These two things cannot coexist together.
And they're asking their audience to believe that it's just sort of a little disagreement that we have.
Sort of an interpretation thing.
No, it's not.
It's very important.
jordan holmes
I think that's something that's underappreciated about...
I think the difference that we're seeing between these and the Black Lives Matter protests is kind of built around the fact that all of these right wing ding-dongs are fighting a different enemy.
Like, they all have their own conception of the evil government, whether it's lizards or anything.
It's all completely different from the person standing next to them.
They have same things they chant and same things they scream, but deep down, they're all fighting a different fight.
And in Portland, everybody was fighting the same singular fight.
dan friesen
Sure.
And one of the things that I actually think is at the core of why I disagree with you about the nature of what happened on Wednesday, where you're saying they all looked stupid and this is going to have a deflationary effect.
I look at this and I worry that the way that it will be used, this event, will be used in the same way that things like Ruby Ridge and Waco were used in the 90s.
In the aftermath of those events, you had the Rocky Mountain Rendezvous, where you had a bunch of different right-wing extremist groups who also didn't see eye-to-eye about what their enemy was.
Some people thought it was just big government.
Some people thought it was the Jews.
And they all got together and were like, well, we gotta work together.
And that is what emboldened and grew the militia right-wing community in the 90s.
I do worry that this will have...
especially with you have a death.
Sure.
unidentified
Spoiler alert, is something that Alex is going to try and use to make a martyr out of.
dan friesen
That is going to be the game that Alex ends up playing.
Right.
unidentified
You have a lot of the essential elements that you would need to try and create this focal point where you could get people of different, like, how could you get QAnon folks and Alex to work side by side?
dan friesen
Seems like this is something that we could reach detente over.
jordan holmes
I get that.
I get that.
I think the difference for me between the Ruby Ridge and those examples that you've given are that they were in response to an aggressor.
There were people coming at them as well.
It was not a bunch of morons.
And the cops let them go.
There was a conflict.
dan friesen
We don't have time.
jordan holmes
I know we're not going to do all that.
dan friesen
No, we don't have time to get into all of that.
Yeah.
But I will say that perception is what's more important than reality in terms of patriot lore.
jordan holmes
I agree.
dan friesen
So the stories that can be told can put people in the roles that they need to be in in order to make the story that you would see as a bunch of losers going home and looking stupid as being exactly what's needed.
jordan holmes
I will be interested to see how they do it.
dan friesen
I'm not saying that that is what's going to happen.
It's that as I was seeing all this happen, that was the fear that I had.
That was the worry that I have about the pieces of this and the way that I see Alex responding to it.
Understood.
unidentified
That is kind of...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, everybody's contradicting each other in a way that is, it's just, it's incomprehensible.
If you're a listener, I guess you just gotta be on Team Owen and Harrison, or Team Alex, or whatever.
jordan holmes
Or whomever.
dan friesen
And now, Harrison has realized that, shit, someone got shot, probably dead.
You know what, these protesters, they were completely non-violent.
harrison smith
Get the fuck out of the only violence I have seen perpetrated so far beyond, you know, one or two, Cold-blooded!
dan friesen
the capital city the capital police rather yeah that's the only violence gone are the memories of people shooting fire extinguishers at cops and mason cops anytime they punch dudes because a cop punched them first sure they punched a cop but that's not violence that's more like you know Oh, we're all tough guys here.
So now the entire tone has kind of changed for Harrison, and he's in justification mode, and it's almost entirely, for a long stretch of time, him talking about how the left gets to protest, but if you protest against them, then you get shot.
harrison smith
Oh, the leftists are saying, just shoot them all.
You know, if you dare protest against us, we can protest, we can burn your city down for a year and a half, we can just, you know, for a year, for four years, we can just...
We can obstruct everything.
We can destroy everything.
We can murder people in cold blood.
Vice Magazine will give us a good 30-minute documentary in order to air our views, to smear the dead man, to call him a racist and a bigot and a Nazi in order to justify his death.
That's the reaction you get if you are a protester.
On the left.
dan friesen
This is really hollow for me, but it seems to be like their mic drop moment.
Yeah.
Because Harrison just keeps coming back to that argument, and it's just, I don't care.
Yeah.
Get the fuck out of here.
So he hears what Ted Cruz's response is, and I think Harrison's a little bit surprised to learn that Ted Cruz is not on board with this.
harrison smith
From Ted Cruz, he says, quote, those storming in the Capitol need to stop now.
The Constitution protects peaceful protests, but violence from left or right is always wrong.
I have not seen any violence.
I have not seen any violence from the protesters yet.
Am I wrong?
Can the crew tell me?
Have I seen violence from the protesters?
jordan holmes
Yes, you have.
dan friesen
You've mentioned some of it.
jordan holmes
You commented on it earlier, sir.
dan friesen
And you were excited about it.
jordan holmes
Yes, you were stoked, in fact.
dan friesen
Yeah, weird.
Things change.
So, speaking of things changing...
Harrison better fucking hope that some of the people that he's talking about in this clip didn't do what he's saying they did.
Because if so, they're going to prison.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
harrison smith
The people who have been able to successfully break into Senate offices and congressional offices did so with such swiftness that the staffers and congressmen and senators there were unable to even grab their information, grab their papers.
Or even shut down their computers.
So now, unlocked and open to anybody, those computers are being accessed by the protesters who themselves are gathering information, downloading hard drives, or stealing the hard drives outright.
We can expect to see the fallout from this continue on for a very long time.
But I remind you again, after a year of complete chaos, a year of protest, a year of literally tens of thousands, Of violent riots.
dan friesen
I'm not saying that it's impossible that some people took some stuff or might have accessed some stuff, but that's a very serious national security problem.
jordan holmes
That's a sitcom plot.
dan friesen
That's something that I don't think that people will take lightly.
jordan holmes
What did Chandler bring home from the White House?
Uh-oh, it's the governor's fucking hard drive.
Oh no!
dan friesen
It's Schumer's motherboard.
jordan holmes
What are we gonna do?
We gotta get rid of it!
dan friesen
It'd be good to, like, if these fucking ding-dongs didn't...
Live stream themselves without masks on.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
Going into these offices where allegedly they are stealing maybe privileged or classified information.
jordan holmes
It's a good thing that they decided to storm one of the least heavily surveilled buildings without masks on.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's a relief.
That Capitol building, I'm glad they just don't have many cameras there or recording equipment of any kind.
The perfect heist.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, were they filming?
jordan holmes
Was George Clooney there?
unidentified
Was this like Jimmy Fallon in that Boston movie?
dan friesen
It's Ponds 11. So, at this point, Alex has suggested that it's Antifa that is orchestrating or provocateering all of this, but Harrison, this is still real to him, man.
harrison smith
We have heard time and time again how valuable protests are, how good protests are, how Antifa is only an idea, how Black Lives Matter is simply a set of beliefs that if you don't believe you're racist.
And we have watched silently because we always knew that at the end of the day we had our vote.
We always knew that when it came right down to it, the American system was powerful enough, flexible enough.
unidentified
Bye.
Is that what you guys were talking about?
jordan holmes
Voting?
harrison smith
Maintain.
And exerted our rights as members of a republic and citizens of this democracy that we could regain our footing and get back on track.
Well, that vote has been stolen from us.
If you're wondering what is inspiring the overwhelming activity that we're seeing here.
jordan holmes
Non-violent activity.
harrison smith
Trump supporters move into the Capitol building and start to destroy things.
It's that that last release valve has been...
Taken, destroyed, perverted and prevented from being accessed and used by the people who for so long have patiently stood by and watched their country literally burned around them So I guess it wasn't Antifa provocateur-ing things.
dan friesen
I guess it was that people had their right to vote stolen and they'd had enough and this is the only thing that could remedy that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but it was Antifa who exploited that to make them do things that they didn't want to do.
Even though the things that they did are the things that they did want to do.
dan friesen
I bet, I bet, like...
If pushed, Alex might be able to come up with that, but that's not what he said.
jordan holmes
I don't think you can sell that one.
dan friesen
This next clip is really where I found myself saying, Oh, Alex.
Oh, no.
This is sad.
This is really indicative of how Alex operates.
Mic down for this, because Owen's going to talk about this shooting, and he listened to Alex's response.
unidentified
People apparently have been shot inside the Capitol.
Now, we're still getting intel on what that is.
owen shroyer
We've gotten to a safe location because it was just too crazy out there on the streets.
alex jones
And that was Capitol Police?
That's probably false.
That's the left probably we're getting later.
Intel is probably false.
unidentified
What's false?
alex jones
The shooting inside.
unidentified
Well, there was.
I mean, a woman came out in a gurney bleeding.
So we don't know who did it.
alex jones
The point is it's crazy.
harrison smith
The point is, there's video now of the shooting having taken place.
dan friesen
So, Alex, based on nothing, his response is, that's probably fake.
alex jones
Probably fake.
dan friesen
This shooting is probably fake.
jordan holmes
Alex, I saw somebody going out there, I'm just throwing that out there in case you want to use that later, it's probably fake.
dan friesen
Things are crazy.
jordan holmes
Just in case you were wondering, probably fake.
dan friesen
And Harrison has to come in and be like, there's video, you can't deny this.
unidentified
Nah, it's fake.
dan friesen
That's just random, that's knee-jerk, he's basing that on nothing.
jordan holmes
Just anything.
dan friesen
That is just...
jordan holmes
That makes us look bad.
Let's say it's fake first and let's just see if we can get away with it.
dan friesen
Let's see how it feels.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Let's taste it in our mouths for a little bit.
dan friesen
So he has been now refuted by both of his employees.
Alex, no.
jordan holmes
Who are not getting the line.
dan friesen
We cannot do that.
jordan holmes
They are not getting the line.
dan friesen
There's video.
Can't fight that.
So Alex makes up another detail.
unidentified
So now Pence has also betrayed President Donald Trump.
owen shroyer
Trump is now a man on a mountain by himself, and he has we, the people, fighting for him.
alex jones
By the way, the police just confirmed one woman was shot in the leg inside the Capitol.
dan friesen
Alex is making up that confirmation.
He didn't get that confirmation from anybody.
She didn't get shot in the leg.
He's just making that up because he has to admit that someone got shot, and it's not fake because of the pushback that he got from his employees, but he can't let it be as serious as it looks like it might be, so someone was shot in the leg.
jordan holmes
And he can't also just say he was wrong.
He has to say, I got word that it was confirmed.
dan friesen
Yes.
It's all made up.
So Alex has decided that this is Antifa, and he explains his evidence for this.
And when I say evidence, I'm being Incredibly generous.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I would describe this as he imagined that it was...
jordan holmes
Okay, yeah, okay.
alex jones
Folks saw him militarily come in.
A lot of vets were over here and they said, yeah, they were very military.
harrison smith
All right, once again...
alex jones
Like elbow pads and knee pads, kind of gray outfits.
They came in, attacked the riot police, said, let's go, let's do it.
Got some people to follow him, then they all...
I pulled out real quick, and I ran to a bunch of experts who were witnesses to what else happened.
But as soon as I saw the footage, Trump had just announced, "I'm gonna drive in 20 minutes over there from his big rally for a peaceful protest here at the Capitol." Within minutes of that, everybody's like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa!
People are attacking the police!
All this crazy stuff's happening.
All this crazy stuff's going down.
All this crazy stuff's unfolding." And then, boom, I was like, man, they're going to do a provocateur action.
And sure enough, minutes later, that happened.
95% is provocateur.
We have the witnesses.
We have the footage.
We have so much.
We have the witness footage.
dan friesen
We have the witnesses.
jordan holmes
We have the footage.
dan friesen
And the witness footage.
jordan holmes
We got it all.
We got all three kinds of footage.
dan friesen
Alex is basically just saying, hey, I thought that they might do a provocateur thing.
So they did.
unidentified
They did.
jordan holmes
They totally did.
dan friesen
I proved it.
unidentified
Aha.
jordan holmes
We saw it.
There's this guy.
He was dressed.
It's amazing how good Antifa is.
He was dressed exactly.
Exactly like you would expect somebody at this rally to be dressed.
He was screaming things that like...
I screamed so you know that he was Antifa because they wouldn't say the things that I said.
dan friesen
We all know that Antifa is mostly out-of-work theater students.
jordan holmes
And they are so good.
unidentified
They're good at acting.
jordan holmes
This guy even had a Nazi tattoo on his neck.
How good is Antifa at Provocatory?
dan friesen
We know that was a stick-on.
unidentified
Amazing how good they are at mimicking their infiltrators.
dan friesen
So one of the things that was jarring about this is they kind of go back and forth from Harrison doing some reporting and Alex doing his yelling.
So, Harrison, you know, I would say one of the most important things in a situation like this is not to just say anything on air.
When you have a tense situation and you have a lot of information coming in, some of it might be wrong.
You might want to vet some things.
I understand that there's an impulse to report everything as quickly as you can.
Sometimes it's best to take a breath and wait a little while.
Harrison is from a different school.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
harrison smith
This is unconfirmed, but it does say that protesters are engaging U.S. Secret Service hand-to-hand combat.
Okay!
Unconfirmed.
I'm not sure if that's a troll post or not.
dan friesen
Usually not good on your news outlet to read something and then afterwards when you sound stupid coming out of your mouth.
Like, ah, that might be trolling.
jordan holmes
Ladies and gentlemen, I am just getting word that Olympus has fallen.
Oh, wait, no, that might be a troll.
dan friesen
Oh, wait, earlier I did say that the capital has fallen.
jordan holmes
Well, there's that.
dan friesen
That might have been trolling.
So anyway, back to Alex yelling.
alex jones
Look, there's a communist Chinese takeover with the new world order of the country.
They're trying to steal the election.
They're trying to bankrupt the nation.
They're telling us the country shouldn't even exist.
They're telling us the word mother and father can't exist.
This is a communist takeover.
And everybody knows it, and so America's starting to push back.
And Xi Jinping, and everybody else seems to know, you're the ones starting all this, not us.
And you're the ones that are going to pay, just like Hitler, and just like all the rest of the scumbags.
unidentified
And, you know, this is what happens.
This is the result.
owen shroyer
This is like, if you don't deal with a cancer, and you have cancer, and you don't deal with it until it's too late, they basically only have one shot, and that's just a chemotherapy, radiate the hell out of you, and then hope you can survive.
unidentified
That's what we're going through.
We've had a cancer in this country for decades.
owen shroyer
We've had a communist Chinese takeover for decades.
We've been occupied by tyrants for decades, and we've been ignoring it.
unidentified
Whoa.
dan friesen
That's pretty severe.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, we're at a point now where they have no reason to be, like, gung-ho about this.
jordan holmes
Everyone's backed off, buddy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's troubling.
jordan holmes
What a bunch of idiots.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is how it was going to go.
alex jones
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
How is this taking them by so much surprise?
dan friesen
Well, I think that they're used to acting in ways that would conceivably lead to something like this, and then it never happens.
And so I think that they're pretty used to that outcome, and so it's kind of surprising to be...
The stars have aligned in such a way that the other influences are actually making this happen.
I don't know if they know how to react, and that's why...
I think you see a little bit of flailing.
You see contradictory narratives being thrown out.
You have Alex trying to insist it's Antifa, but then at the same time, that last clip seemed to sound like he was saying it's great.
I don't know.
It's weird.
jordan holmes
I think it's because the only thing they're not allowed to say is the only thing that would make any sense for any of them to say, which is just, you guys weren't supposed to actually do it.
This was about stealing your money.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And now, look at us.
dan friesen
This is tough for business.
jordan holmes
I'm disappointed in you.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
It's weird.
So, in order to really thread the needle successfully, one of the things you have to do is cast aspersions on the people who actually did follow through with it.
So, there are people who have speculated that the Q Shaman weirdo guy...
jordan holmes
He was Antifa?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, come on, buddy!
Who else is Antifa?
harrison smith
Give him more names!
People are now looking into some of the people that have broken in.
They're seeing tattoos that look suspiciously like communist things.
We're seeing incredible shots from inside the Capitol Dome.
dan friesen
So there's a guy who had a tattoo that everyone thought was a hammer and a sickle, and it turns out it's a symbol from a video game Dishonored.
So they were like, oh, he's a commie.
This isn't really...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Oh, so he had Corvo's little tattoo on his hand.
What a nerd.
dan friesen
Dorks.
jordan holmes
That's so funny.
dan friesen
Yeah, but Nick Fuentes in Baked Alaska are...
They're figures.
They're media figures.
jordan holmes
They were on your show!
dan friesen
Yes.
Nick Fuentes was on like a week ago.
jordan holmes
He was on a week ago!
He was with you the last time you were at DC.
Was he in TV then or now?
Pick one!
dan friesen
Yeah.
They just conveniently ignore that.
unidentified
Jesus.
jordan holmes
What a bunch.
He's going to be back on InfoWars, right?
dan friesen
Probably today.
jordan holmes
They're going to have to get Fuentes on soon.
dan friesen
I don't know what happened on Thursday.
We're keeping this as a bottle episode of Wednesday, and then on Monday we'll cover...
Just because of the stupidity of all this.
So stupid.
But yeah, I would assume that at least by the time the weekend's over, Fuentes will have made some sort of a play for Harrison's job.
Anyway.
We end the Alex Jones show, and we end up going into the War Room.
Smooth transition.
jordan holmes
Of course.
It's all hosted by Harrison Smith.
dan friesen
No, he has to leave.
jordan holmes
He's done.
dan friesen
He's tapped out.
jordan holmes
He's had a long day.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
I mean, to be fair, he was on air for a long time.
jordan holmes
Seven straight hours?
dan friesen
He did hold up, at least in terms of not completely falling apart.
Which is faint praise, but I'll give it to him.
jordan holmes
I don't think I could do seven hours.
alex jones
No.
jordan holmes
I don't think I, absolutely not.
dan friesen
Especially, this is an intense seven hours.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't think he did a good job, but he did a job.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, I would have been like, guys, we shouldn't be doing this.
This is not for us right now.
We gotta stop.
dan friesen
Now, what's really funny is that Alex...
Oh, and also, I mean, not to add more praise on, but Alex had said, we're cutting commercials, so he had no breaks for the last...
Oh, shit.
Basically the last hour that he's been on air.
jordan holmes
Goddamn.
dan friesen
Fuck you, boss!
Alex keeps saying, we're going to go into the fourth hour.
Meanwhile, they're in the fourth hour.
They're about to start the war room.
He has no idea, but again, I could be petty.
jordan holmes
Time zones, and there's a revolution going on.
dan friesen
No, totally.
jordan holmes
I get it.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a little bit funny because you can hear the producer's voice like, war room.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I would make that mistake too.
unidentified
Yeah, totally.
jordan holmes
No, that's understandable for sure.
dan friesen
Not with the mistake I would not make.
jordan holmes
Calling for a violent revolution?
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Tom Papert is hosting the War Room.
jordan holmes
Oh, that was a big mistake.
dan friesen
And this guy sucks.
He's pretty scary.
tom pappert
Local news has reported that protesters have moved inside the Kansas House chambers as well.
I'm getting additional reports from Kentucky and Georgia that protesters are making their way inside these state capitol buildings.
What seems to have set this off, of course, is all of this happened mere seconds after Mike Pence announced his ultimate betrayal of President Trump and said that he would not fight for him in the electoral college.
dan friesen
Everybody has, like, real different vibes.
jordan holmes
So that was because...
So, Pence is Antifa.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
He was the one who instigated this whole thing.
dan friesen
Well, here's the vibe I would say.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Harrison is like, yay!
jordan holmes
Kill them all!
dan friesen
No?
unidentified
Yay!
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That's where he's at.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
He's watching this go down, and he's like, this is the revolution.
unidentified
Stoked.
dan friesen
But he's also drastically affected in a kind of human way about the fact that someone died.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
And it ruins a lot of the vibe.
jordan holmes
It does hurt his feelings, yeah.
dan friesen
Tom Pappert wants everything to burn.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He does not think that he thinks this is great, but he also thinks that we need to do way more.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Good.
Good.
He's much more accelerationist.
jordan holmes
Alright, Tom.
dan friesen
And then Alex can't quite figure out if it's Antifa or if he's glad.
And Owen...
I don't even know what the fuck he's on.
Listen to this shit.
Owen's talking to Tom Happert and like...
alex jones
The police pulling in.
Hundreds of police cars.
unidentified
Never did they do this once this summer when churches burned, buildings burned, businesses were looted.
You never saw a response like this once.
Never once.
Now, you could make an argument.
owen shroyer
I would even listen to an argument that says, oh, this is the appropriate response for what's happening today.
unidentified
I would listen to that.
dan friesen
Great, because that's the argument I would make.
It's the fucking Capitol building.
unidentified
It's people storming the fucking Capitol building of the country.
dan friesen
You could make the argument that this is a very serious, real thing, much more so than someone stealing stuff from Target.
Yes, and I would listen to that argument, convenient, because that's the argument I would make.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Why would you tell me that you would listen to that argument?
Why would you tell me that?
dan friesen
Because it's the argument that really hurts your argument.
jordan holmes
Obviously.
Now, hey, look, if you were to make the argument that this was real, I would agree with you.
But!
dan friesen
Now, even so, I would say that some of the police responses that we've seen over the course of the summer were pretty severe.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
No.
How so?
dan friesen
I don't want to get into a game of scale, or playing that, because I don't actually think that I would be the most credible source on that.
But, I would say that there's a lot of police action against people before, and also, whatever they did in terms of defending the Capitol building, you kind of would see it and be like, well...
It's the Capitol building.
jordan holmes
Hey, we can talk about how there were almost no arrests and all of that stuff.
We can talk about that stuff.
But I think what's a more telling statistic is how many fucking...
There were fewer people with broken hands, like that type of shit.
Those types of, oh, I got shot in the face with a rubber bullet.
Oh, I got blood coming from my nose because I was hit by three fucking cops.
There was none of that shit going around.
dan friesen
It seems like there's less that I've heard of.
I mean, I...
It's tough, because obviously I don't think that the police should be, you know, or law enforcement.
I'm not in the business of saying, like, yeah, what'd you expect?
I don't like that tone.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, absolutely not.
dan friesen
But had things gone differently over the summer, and people had made it over that barricade when they were around the White House.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I would not have been super surprised if people got shot for trying to rush the White House.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
I'm not saying that people should have been shot for rushing the Capitol building, but what I am saying is I am not surprised by any level of law enforcement response when it comes to the fucking Capitol or the White House.
I just don't understand why they're playing games with that.
jordan holmes
I think that's one of the reasons that I'm just not as...
Okay, when Portland happened, you had fucking stormtroopers against people, and the pictures that came out were all in the middle of the night, and everybody looked fucking cool.
The cops looked cool.
They looked like the fucking...
And in this one, we have cops standing around going like, hey, what are you guys doing?
We just gotta let you guys get this out of your system.
And we have idiots storming.
We have people fucking putting their feet up on Nancy Pelosi's fucking desk.
dan friesen
Some people might think that's pretty cool.
jordan holmes
It is cool, but it's also pathetic and stupid.
dan friesen
I think you're coming at this from a very subjective standpoint.
jordan holmes
I understand.
dan friesen
You have a particular view of what's cool and what kind of movies you like.
jordan holmes
No, but they do too!
These are people that are...
That guy has a Corvo tattoo, Dan.
These are all people who live in fucking fantasy movies.
dan friesen
That's the guy who's hanging out with the shaman.
jordan holmes
Alex is their leader.
No, he's not.
These are all fucking sci-fi nerds.
dan friesen
That is true.
It does seem like there's a lot of that.
But, look, the bottom line is this was Antifa.
Alex is pretty sure of that.
He's pretty much sure.
alex jones
Antifa started this.
We're pretty much sure.
They're all wearing the same outfits, shoulder pads, knee pads, mask.
The people are pissed.
They got him up there.
A few people broke in, went in, could have arrested him, could have tasered him, shouldn't have shot that woman.
So they've already committed the big crime there.
This does not need to escalate.
And we need to have our path to victory by exposing the fraudulent election with the massive evidence that came out.
dan friesen
So, Alex is really at, like, a point where he's like...
Let's de-escalate.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And I honestly kind of get it.
I get his perspective.
I mean, not because I agree.
I do agree.
There should have been de-escalation.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
But I get where he's coming from.
And it became very clear as I listened on.
alex jones
What did that captain...
unidentified
Sorry about the...
jordan holmes
That's not us.
dan friesen
Sorry about the choppiness.
That was a bad connection for Alex.
alex jones
He said, don't fire.
They fire on us.
For a war, they're going to get one.
And that's what this comes down to.
And they just fired first.
dan friesen
So Alex is justifying basically now a war on the government because they've taken first blood by shooting this woman, which I thought he had confirmed was just in the leg, but I guess that's not...
jordan holmes
I would argue that if somebody who believed in violent conspiracy theories was encouraged to go to the mall and then stormed the Capitol building and was killed, that's probably...
More on people like Alex.
dan friesen
I think it's tough to, you know, because people have such similar information streams that are very separate.
jordan holmes
That's why I said people like Alex.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's that sphere.
jordan holmes
It's the whole sphere.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's decentralized.
jordan holmes
Her death is on the right-wing media ecosystem.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's hard to personalize responsibility or to make it like, Alex, you did this.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
Because that's kind of...
Nebulous and impossible to nail down.
But yeah, it does feel to me that you look at what is most responsible for the circumstances that lead to this.
It's people believing in a fictional reality.
And there's a lot of people who are responsible for creating, reinforcing.
Worsening those things.
And Alex is certainly one of them.
jordan holmes
Everybody on Fox News should be fucking slapped.
If they say anything about...
You can hear them saying shit that people on Fox News said two days before.
So it's on you.
Everybody there should have been slapped in the face while it was going on.
It's your fucking fault.
dan friesen
But now, Alex wants you to de-escalate.
He wants everyone to go home.
jordan holmes
Such a surprise.
dan friesen
It's time to go home.
alex jones
I would advise everybody who happens to be watching down there on our feeds, go home now.
Because we're not the bad guys that are instigating this.
And I don't want you to get hurt.
Okay?
The globalists know they're losing.
They want to show some type of decisive force like Trump's bad, like we started this.
We need to de-escalate this.
And people need to then decide.
Okay?
And then watch what happens and let them have the debate and let them have the process that we were starting to win of showing So, the reason that Alex is saying everyone go home, de-escalate, is because he has what he thinks he needs.
dan friesen
He thinks that everything that he was hoping to accomplish...
And trying to make lemonade out of the lemons that life has given him.
Obviously, the most profitable route is continuing just the terrorist edging game that he constantly does.
That's super manageable for him.
But now that this has happened, it's tough.
But, on the bright side...
Alex doesn't realize that Congress will just reconvene in the evening and certify the election results.
So he thinks that there's a stay of execution that's going on here.
Simultaneously, he has this woman who has been killed by the police that he believes he can build a martyr narrative out of.
He has all of the optics that he needs to build upon, move forward.
He's decided that this is Antifa, and he's...
Right.
And so that's what he's encouraging people to do.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He has no real effect on anyone's actions, I don't believe.
alex jones
No.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely not.
dan friesen
But it's...
jordan holmes
Imagine somebody in the Capitol building after having stormed it.
Like, hold on, I got word from Alex.
We all gotta go home, guys.
dan friesen
Hold on, guys.
I'm listening to the very highly rated War Room program.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wait, I thought Owen was in D.C. Yeah, Tom Pappert's hosting today.
dan friesen
Boo, turn it off.
So one of the dead giveaways that Alex is just like, listen, we can't let this get worse, is this.
alex jones
I would advise all the great people down here to understand we are contesting, we are fighting, we've not reached this point yet.
I would advise people to get off the streets by 6 o 'clock tonight.
dan friesen
Alex is telling people to accept a curfew.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
Hey, you know what happens when your revolutionary movement is led by a bunch of rich people and grifters and scam artists and your supreme leader is a fucking...
Coward asking vice presidents to overthrow a country for him, and then he decided to run away.
He ran away.
He fleed from your overthrow capital.
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then your hero anti-government guy tells you, hey, listen to the state when they tell you to go home at a certain time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
Listen to that curfew.
Hey, you know who we're fighting?
The literal Christian devil.
But nightfall.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We only fight in the day.
dan friesen
Now, I have been spending a lot of time on my program yelling about how...
You know, curfews are basically, you know, that, and masks are basically slavery.
jordan holmes
Slavery, yeah.
Government overreach.
dan friesen
Go home by 6. Well, it's 6 p.m.
jordan holmes
It's nightfall, guys.
Gotta go home.
dan friesen
This is actually kind of interesting.
At this point, Alex reports that this woman who was shot has died.
This is way before.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was gonna say, we didn't find that out.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No.
alex jones
We got really bad news.
Try to get her name.
Is that from our police sources or is that...
That's exclusive.
Guys, the woman that they shot looks like some type of security for the senators.
The woman they shot died.
So the woman...
We'll put the shot on the screen.
She's dead.
I gotta go talk to our folks.
We got D.C. police that we've got hired off duty.
So I gotta give you the latest stuff.
And they're talking to Capitol Police right now.
dan friesen
I don't know what to make of this, because it did end up being correct.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But I still don't think Alex had a source on that.
I think that was just a good bet.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think he knew that there was a good chance she was going to pass, and decided to make it definitive, claim there was a source.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Up until that point, all the confirmed reports were very much like...
dan friesen
Nonsense.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean...
unidentified
Oh, I meant confirmed reports that Alex is saying.
jordan holmes
The real world.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
The reporting was like...
We saw her get this type of medical treatment, which they only give in the most extreme of circumstances, so it would be surprising.
dan friesen
Critical condition.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's a good bet.
I doubt he knew.
dan friesen
When I said that the confirmed reports are nonsense, I mean the things that Alex has tried to pass off as confirmed reports.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
dan friesen
We just had a misunderstanding.
unidentified
Yeah, totally.
jordan holmes
We got a crossfire.
dan friesen
So Alex, now in light of this decision that he's made, Maybe somebody has given him a tip that she has passed.
Now we need to set the narrative.
alex jones
I see at Infowars.com, I'm not mad, we're just directing live from the air, that it still says, watch live, today's the day Alex Jones leads largest patriot movement in history through D.C. Let's update that, that D.C. now under martial law, feds murder innocent woman.
Pence turns against Trump.
Okay, let me give you that line again.
unidentified
Okay?
alex jones
Okay.
D.C. now under martial law.
Feds shoot and kill innocent woman.
Pence turns against Trump.
We have to get the narrative out of the truth of them killing this woman.
dan friesen
You gotta get the narrative out.
This is the narrative that we need to set.
Pence is now the bad guy.
The cops murdered this woman in cold blood in the cities under martial law.
And, of course, the sub-narratives, of course, the martial law was precipitated by a false flag.
Sure.
Takeover of the Capitol building.
It was provocateur by Antifa.
jordan holmes
Fight the power, but also go home at six.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Alex is trying to make this work, and it's just pathetic.
So he has some footage of this shooting.
And he constantly describes it as execution style.
And again, that's just the narrative that's being said.
jordan holmes
I saw the video.
alex jones
...of them execute the woman.
They just walk up and shoot her right in the neck.
A nonviolent woman wasn't even the woman trying to break through the glass.
They just execute her.
And they're the good guys, and it's Trump's fault and it's our fault.
No, it's your fault, globalists.
And if you want to fight, you're going to fucking get one.
You got that?
Fucking bullies.
dan friesen
So, yeah.
jordan holmes
Fucking bully!
dan friesen
I have unfortunately also seen this video.
I did not want to, but Alex plays it a bunch of times.
unidentified
Ugh.
dan friesen
And it seems very clear that he has made a point to have everyone say that this was execution.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because that term is now used, like, almost blanketly.
Sure.
And, get this!
This is weird.
Alex has found a first-hand witness.
alex jones
In a couple minutes, we're going to have Pepper take over because we've got a guest that was one of the first to go in today that witnessed it all.
So stay there.
owen shroyer
So we're going to have an eyewitness guest that was in the building and witnessed the whole thing, but we now have it confirmed.
dan friesen
Oh my God.
What a shock.
We got a witness.
We got a first-hand witness.
jordan holmes
You don't get to tell me that you're revolting and overthrowing the government and then be like, oh, this innocent woman was murdered in cold blood by the cops.
No.
You said you're fighting a revolution.
People die in a revolution.
dan friesen
Or conversely, Antifa provocateur things.
And then she wouldn't be...
I don't understand.
jordan holmes
So if she's not...
It's hard.
dan friesen
It's hard to figure out exactly what the narrative is.
Basically, they're all false flag provocateurs except for her.
She was a hero and I don't know.
jordan holmes
Yeah, see, I can care that she was killed.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Because I'm living in the real world where what happened was a woman's brain was destroyed and melted and then here we are.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But they can't care because they're fighting a real fucking war against the devil.
They should all be expecting to die immediately.
That's what...
You're fighting the literal Christian devil.
dan friesen
Yeah, and...
jordan holmes
Don't hand-ring about one person dying.
dan friesen
It does seem weird.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it also seems weird to go halfway in terms of, like, we have breached the Capitol building and be like, we'll fight another day.
Like, it seems weird if you think that you're up against the actual devil, you're already midstream.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
It's very weird.
jordan holmes
No, it's pathetic.
dan friesen
But that's because that's not really what they want.
They don't want that.
It's like what you were saying.
The people who they're probably the most mad at are the people who followed through with what they keep saying should be done.
jordan holmes
We want your money!
dan friesen
Yeah.
We don't actually want a Ron Paul presidency.
jordan holmes
Do you realize what would happen if that shit happened?
We would lose our money!
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Tom Papert hosts for a little while, and he's doing the work to build up this narrative that this woman was a martyr.
tom pappert
I will completely admit that I am a chauvinist, and I forced all of our female reporters on the ground to get the hell out of there.
One is on a train getting multiple states away right now.
This is not a safe place.
These are the times that try men's souls, and it's not the time to be a martyr.
They've already made a martyr, and that is what this young woman will be.
The police shot and killed a woman because they didn't like her form of protest.
dan friesen
I'd say...
jordan holmes
I mean, if your form of protest is storming the Capitol building, I would argue, yeah!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
So, um...
jordan holmes
Now is not the time to martyr yourself.
Obviously, we're fighting the devil.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I'm going to tell you that I have some real negative feelings about how Alex handles the fact that he has footage of this shooting.
But there's a really interesting dynamic at play about the provenance of this footage.
And Alex kind of reveals too much, and then it pretends that he didn't say these things.
unidentified
I have seen a snuff film today.
alex jones
I just saw footage of an innocent woman that one of our own cameramen followed the crowds into the Senate, and I watched them execute an unarmed woman with a Trump flag shooting her in the neck at point blank range.
We are uploading the footage right now.
dan friesen
So one of your camera people, one of your employees, was one of the people who was along storming the Senate and was there close enough to get this video of this woman being shot.
tom pappert
Yeah.
dan friesen
Interesting.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that is what he's saying.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Weird.
jordan holmes
You would think that the psycho, like, and we had a cameraman in there!
All of a sudden, everybody around him would just go, ee, ee, ee, ee!
Stabbing him through the fucking neck.
dan friesen
Alex, that hurts.
That hurts.
Don't do that.
jordan holmes
Don't do this.
dan friesen
So Owen is freaking out about the criminals in Congress.
I don't know.
I just think this is a little...
I think I kept this clip because it's so out of place.
It's a weird outburst.
jordan holmes
Okay.
owen shroyer
This is the biggest frustration, and this is why this is so difficult, why we're on a high wire here.
unidentified
We're not at war with the police.
I don't look at the police like my enemy.
I don't look at Antifa like my enemy.
I don't look like BLM is my enemy, but man, the fucking criminals are sitting in that fucking building, taking my fucking country, and I'm fucking sick of it, man, and these people are too.
alex jones
That's all.
And you guys just keep killing women and stuff and see what happens.
jordan holmes
Yep, you're damn right.
alex jones
Because they take our kindness for weakness.
dan friesen
So now they're on top of a building, I think, at a press location.
jordan holmes
This sounds like three dudes at a bar arguing about how they fucking lost, and they're like, no, no, no, we won the game, we'll get them next time.
dan friesen
It's really hard to tell, but that was bizarre.
So anyway, Rob Dew's there too, he's hanging out.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
He's watched this death film.
jordan holmes
I just watched it a couple times.
unidentified
It's pretty sad.
alex jones
Why don't you come here?
Come here, come here.
Okay, I understand you just watched it.
When is the network going to have it?
unidentified
They have it.
They have it now.
alex jones
I'm not ready to show it yet because I want to give viewer discretion's advice.
We're going to show you the HD footage in a minute of the execution.
dan friesen
So Alex's big take on this is that the media and the news played the police footage of the killing of George Floyd.
Yeah.
And so he's like, well, I'm gonna play this.
I want you to watch it.
alex jones
I want it next hour because we're going to slow it down so you get to see her.
Because like George Floyd, that thing on his neck, he's ODing on heroin.
It's a terrible thing.
The cops are in the wrong, but they didn't do it on purpose.
This is on purpose.
I want you to see her die slow.
Because believe me, if she was still here, she was God now.
She'd want to be seen for what she did, executed, while she was just trying to execute her own First Amendment.
So we're gonna play the footage raw next hour.
dan friesen
That's psychologically so fucked up.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
I wanted you to watch her die slow.
Like, that's so gross.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
She would have wanted me.
You don't even know who this person is.
I mean, you can guess some things about her based on the fact that she stormed the Capitol.
Yeah.
But those would be weak assumptions.
jordan holmes
They wouldn't be great.
They wouldn't be great.
dan friesen
But Tom Papert is doing his job.
Alex has declared this an execution.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
And so while he's hosting, he's really trying to push that.
tom pappert
Again, InfoWars has exclusive video of the martyr of DC, the MAGA martyr, who was executed, Sean Execution style.
I've seen the video.
I don't know what else you call it.
By these jackboots of Muriel Bowser.
By the jackboots of Joe Biden.
dan friesen
Joe Biden's jackboots.
jordan holmes
You fucking nerds.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
Call them Koopa Troopas.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no kidding.
The jackboots.
dan friesen
Her name is Bowser.
Make use of it.
jordan holmes
Good God.
dan friesen
So, anyway, Papert also let slip that the person who got this footage is employed by InfoWars.
tom pappert
I know the InfoWars cameraman who was in...
The room who captured the footage when it happened.
I hope the man is okay.
He's a strong man, but I don't know if I would be.
dan friesen
So, Tom Pepper is playing some clips, responding to him, and at this point, there's a group of Trump supporters who find a media setup, and they start attacking the lights.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And what have you.
jordan holmes
I haven't seen any violence, though.
dan friesen
None.
But what's really funny here is that I was watching this, and Tom Pappert is playing this video, and he has to pretend that he can't see Trump flags.
It's so pathetic.
tom pappert
More clashes happening, it appears, between the media.
And Trump supporters?
Or is that the left?
I can't tell what kind of flag that is.
But more clashes happening in D.C. as the sun starts to go down a little bit.
Things are going to get a little bit darker.
Antifa will come out.
Those appear to be lights.
Looks like somebody was maybe doing a stand-up.
Some news outlet was doing a stand-up.
That's just dumb as well.
To the media, to my friends in the media, I've given my reporters, and we are the renegade news outlet that is doing this by the seat of our pants.
I've told my people, go home.
I've told my people, nobody's going to get shot today on my watch.
Mainstream media journalists who are out there to get the footage to make us look bad, you're not safe for anti-fire police either.
I'm sorry.
That's not a threat.
That's an observation.
jordan holmes
No, it's not a threat.
tom pappert
Because these people are feral.
dan friesen
I think you might need to go to therapy.
jordan holmes
Okay, here's the problem.
Here's the problem, alright?
Okay.
Here's why that's so obviously transparently bullshit.
Because if they were Antifa provocateurs, they would still be carrying Trump flags.
They wouldn't be carrying Antifa flags.
dan friesen
Oh yeah, that's true.
That's a great point.
Also, based on what Tom Pappert is describing, conflict journalism should not exist.
jordan holmes
I can't...
dan friesen
Hey, look.
I understand everyone's curious what's going on in a war zone, but you journalists are fucking stupid.
jordan holmes
Hey, hey, journalists.
The cops in Antifa are gonna...
They're not your friends, and they're gonna come after you too.
No, they're not.
You guys are.
unidentified
So...
jordan holmes
It's just you.
dan friesen
Something bad happens on this broadcast, and that is they've been teasing this death footage that they're going to play.
Viewer discretion advised.
Sure.
But they get scooped.
Someone else releases it.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
tom pappert
Okay, we will be going live here in just a second with Alex Jones.
He's going to come in and break the video.
Sorry, it's just my cry.
I was telling them, do not upload this video anywhere.
It is an InfoWars exclusive, and then all of a sudden I'm seeing it go up.
So not sure what happened there.
dan friesen
Yep, someone else got the footage.
jordan holmes
Somebody else got there first.
dan friesen
Some other dude, Michael Codre, I think, a guy from Stop a Steal, got the footage and he uploaded it and got scooped.
No longer an InfoWars exclusive.
jordan holmes
Oh, poor guys.
They can still get Rob Du, though.
dan friesen
Yes.
I don't know.
He might be in the wind.
jordan holmes
He might be too high enough.
dan friesen
So, I noticed there are similarities in how Harrison is aping traits and patterns that Alex Jones does.
jordan holmes
In-house style.
Exactly.
dan friesen
And I noticed one that Tom Papert is doing an impression of.
Or just basically, you know, Alex does it, so it's totally fine.
And that is reporting something based on imagining it.
tom pappert
I guarantee you, as we speak right now, they're trying to use the 25th Amendment to remove Trump and do a full and complete and total coup right before our eyes.
I guarantee you that's the conversation, and Mike Pence is leading it.
This is without sources.
I'm just telling you I know how these people think.
I've spent enough time covering them like Alex Jones has.
Not nearly as much as him, but you figure it out pretty quick.
They're sick.
dan friesen
I'm making this up, and I guarantee it, because I know I've followed these people for so long.
They're sick, and I know what they're doing, and it's all just based on nothing.
jordan holmes
That feels so true, though.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
This is a coup.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, after we stormed the Capitol building, they're going to coup.
Wait.
Our guy's the president now.
dan friesen
Speaking of coup.
jordan holmes
So now is the coup.
dan friesen
All right.
unidentified
But...
dan friesen
You know who's conspicuous in their absence?
jordan holmes
Who?
dan friesen
Steve Pachenik.
jordan holmes
No.
He's got to get those ballots.
He's got to find those ballots, man.
They've got the blockchain.
dan friesen
I would say call number one for me if I'm Alex.
Steve, get your ass on air.
jordan holmes
Trump has abandoned us, so it's time for Melania to take over.
dan friesen
Also conspicuous in their absence, Roger Stone.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
Hey, Roger, do you want to come on?
No!
I don't!
dan friesen
Please leave a message.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
That shit's going to voicemail.
I am not dealing with Alex's bullshit today.
jordan holmes
Nope.
Gotta eat a sandwich myself.
dan friesen
I am drunk in the bunker.
So we get now to Alex's first-hand guy who got the video.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Now, Alex is going to pretend that he hasn't already said that this person works for Infowars.
alex jones
All right, Tyler Hansen is here with us.
He was another witness.
I've seen his footage, absolutely horrible, of this poor woman, we don't know her name yet, who was executed by some type of security force inside the North Korean death chamber that is the U.S. Capitol.
dan friesen
Alex conveniently fails to mention that Taylor Hansen, not Tyler, is the InfoWars cameraman that's been referenced multiple times already.
Owen was hanging out with Taylor the night before, and by hanging out...
This is actually what I mean.
They took video.
unidentified
So my good friend Taylor here is going to do a little Black Lives Matter enrichment ceremony.
jordan holmes
Taylor!
unidentified
Yeah!
So who wants to see this flag?
Yeah!
So to my audience, it's going to say, it's going to say, BLM sucks!
I'm not afraid of the best friend of symbols.
I'm just kidding.
I'm not taking part of this.
I'm still not.
Oh shit.
I'm stepping on it.
What the fuck is going on here, dude?
jordan holmes
I'm getting a little dirt on it.
unidentified
BLM sucks!
Fuck Antifa!
Fuck Antifa!
Antifa can burn the American flag, but you can't burn this propaganda bullshit!
Yeah!
jordan holmes
No, you can.
Everybody's fine with it.
unidentified
Fuck you!
Fuck Antifa!
Fuck Antifa!
dan friesen
So yeah, the night before, Owen and Taylor had gotten together with a group of people and doused a Black Lives Matter flag in lighter fluid, set it on fire.
And chanted, fuck BLM, BLM sucks.
jordan holmes
Didn't we hear earlier Alex say that BLM isn't our enemy?
dan friesen
No, Owen said that.
jordan holmes
Oh, Owen said that.
Oh, that's odd.
dan friesen
Night before it burned their flag.
jordan holmes
That's weird.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's weird.
dan friesen
It is weird.
jordan holmes
That is odd.
dan friesen
It is also weird how they're pretending that this is just a guy who got footage.
jordan holmes
Just a patriot out there, Dan.
Or maybe an Antifa provocateur?
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Dan here.
Just wanted to drop in to make a little bit of a correction here.
There is something going on here, definitely, about this dude, Taylor, who Alex is interviewing.
But I messed something up.
I mixed something up, and that is my fault, and I'd just like to correct that.
I didn't realize this until after we'd recorded the episode.
I didn't want to take it out, but at the same time, I didn't want anyone to get the wrong idea.
There were actually two videos that are being referenced.
And it's very unclear, and I made a hasty assumption.
There was an Infowars camera person who was filming at the Capitol when people had stormed, and the shooting did take place.
And in addition to that...
Taylor Hanson was also there, and he had shot some video.
So I apologize for the mistake.
There's no indication necessarily that Taylor himself is an Infowars employee, although very much clearly an Infowars associate in as much as he's hanging out in Owen Troyer's hotel room and he is on video the night before setting a Black Lives Matter flag on fire with Owen.
So there's something going on that was really confusing about the social dynamics between pretending he was a stranger to them, when in fact he was very well known to them, and the multiple people recording stuff.
It was a mess.
Anyway, sorry I got that mixed up.
Now back to the episode.
The next day after this, Taylor Hansen was a guest on Laura Ingraham's show.
Taylor better be really careful.
I certainly hope that the video showing him burning a Black Lives Matter flag the night before doesn't paint his journalistic intentions as being a little bit iffy.
I would imagine that he and Alex should be really concerned right now about him getting arrested for illegal entry into the Capitol building because he was clearly not there as some kind of an objective journalist.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
He's pressed, Dan.
He's pressed.
dan friesen
He's an InfoWars employee.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
He's pressed.
dan friesen
Trying to get a sizzle reel.
jordan holmes
What, are you against the freedom of the press now, Dan?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
So they'll get to this interview in a little bit, but Alex wants to play the video first, right?
Okay.
unidentified
And he's really excited to play this video, but not so excited that he doesn't get distracted.
alex jones
They're like, Trump caused violence.
Trump's bad.
Remove him.
I'm not telling you they executed a woman.
I got Joe Rogan calling me.
Let's just take this call.
Hey, Joe, how you doing?
unidentified
I am there.
alex jones
I'm in the middle of it.
dan friesen
So that's jarring.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They play the video of her getting shot while Alex is on the phone.
jordan holmes
That's what the shot was?
dan friesen
Yep.
Trying to play that, because Alex had already been setting up the clip, and now he's gotten a call from Rogan that he can't not answer, so he wants to interview Rogan, because he has him on speakerphone, but apparently...
In the feed, they don't have Rogan's call on there, which I think is probably good, because they don't have his permission.
jordan holmes
Because they didn't ask her permission yet.
dan friesen
And so Alex gets a little frustrated.
alex jones
It's weird.
I have such a great crew, but these remotes are very interesting.
They're very interesting, because they're just seizing up constantly.
Just seizing, seizing, seizing.
Try it again.
We're live.
That's great.
This is all real.
I'm here while they're killing people down there.
Everything's good.
Roll the footage without me talking over it.
Two and a half minutes.
I have a timer.
dan friesen
It's already played.
I do think that he seems more interested in getting Rogan on than he is in...
This footage.
unidentified
It's disrespectful.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, no, no.
The MAGA martyr, she's going to galvanize it.
Hold on, I've got to take this call.
dan friesen
It's a famous guy.
jordan holmes
It's a famous person.
Now, this MAGA martyr, she's going to inspire the revolution.
But I've got to take a Joe Rogan call real quick.
Joe Rogan, I don't know if you know this, is a comedian.
So the MAGA martyr fighting the little Christian devil.
Hero.
But I gotta talk to Joe Rogan.
Professional comedian.
dan friesen
So now that that is out of the way and he can't get Rogan back on the phone, Alex decides, fuck it, I'll interview Taylor and pretend that I don't know him.
jordan holmes
Wild.
alex jones
Sir, thanks for being here with us.
Tell us who you are.
Tell us what you witnessed.
unidentified
My name is Taylor Hansen.
I'm an independent journalist and she was the first one that actually had headed into that hall.
I was right behind her.
dan friesen
This is nonsense.
Why are they pretending that they don't know each other?
Like, literally.
Listen to this.
Listen to this.
This is just a little bit later.
unidentified
I was sitting with Taylor last night in my room.
We were watching them steal the Georgia.
I mean, I said it's over.
Even when the Republicans were at, we were both.
Owen and Taylor are clearly friends.
dan friesen
They were hanging out in their hotel room last night.
It's so bizarre.
So, Owen's got an interesting theory at this point about the stealing of the election.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Oh, by the way, we're not going to listen to much of Taylor because he's really boring, outside of the fact that it's clearly a charade.
jordan holmes
It's clearly a ridiculous dance.
dan friesen
Yeah.
This is an interesting theory.
I think that Owen suspects that the Communist Chinese are going through an elaborate conspiracy just to make him mad.
unidentified
The election is completely fake.
It's not that they steal elections.
Of course they steal elections.
owen shroyer
They rigged this election last night to make it look like they stole it intentionally and to make it look like it's close intentionally, all being done by the Chinese who run the voting machines so that they could get this anger, get this ill sentiment, get these fake people in, and then have us mad that they just stole our presidency and stole our Senate.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
That's pretty ambitious as a conspiracy theory.
jordan holmes
So, if I understand correctly, the globalists both made the election look like they stole it, while at the same time making the election look as though it were close, while at the same time actually Actually stealing it.
dan friesen
Yes.
And they wanted to make it close because they knew if it wasn't close, it wouldn't anger people like Owen.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And it had to be obvious that it was stolen because that would also piss them off quite a bit.
unidentified
Totally, totally.
jordan holmes
And it had to be a come from behind victory because it was one of those gut punch losses, you know?
Goddamn narcissistic.
It's like when LeBron sunk that three to knock out my beloved bulls.
dan friesen
Yeah.
They're imagining that, like...
She is just sitting around and being like, Owen's gonna hate this.
jordan holmes
Owen's gonna be so pissed.
He's not gonna like this one.
dan friesen
So they covered Trump's video that he put out.
I'm guessing you saw that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Where he called everyone special and I love you all, go home.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was great.
That was a really good way to de-escalate.
dan friesen
Fucked up.
jordan holmes
Hey, listen, they stole it.
Everything you're doing is right, and I love you, but it's time to go home.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's 6 p.m., guys.
dan friesen
Fucked up.
So they do cover that, but it's basically exactly what you would expect.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The only thing that I find shocking is after Trump had put out that video, he more or less tweeted something pretty similar.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And even Tom Papert is shocked by this tweet.
Listen to this.
Tom is like, what?
tom pappert
We just have a breaking tweet from the president, President Trump tweets, which is one of his first tweets of the day, really.
These are...
Wow.
President Donald Trump breaking, these are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously and viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly and unfairly treated for so long.
dan friesen
Tom Pappert's a shithead and he believes all that stuff, and even he was like, holy shit, Donald Trump said that.
jordan holmes
So then, how is it, Antifa agents?
dan friesen
I guess it can't be.
I don't know.
These people are...
It's all just like, whatever.
We'll figure it out tomorrow.
Let's do all of it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, 100%.
Throw it all out there tonight, and then we'll pick something to stick with tomorrow.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And at this point...
jordan holmes
It's shameful.
That should not be...
I know it's...
It's the worst.
Look, we're on Sin 10,000, but I mean, really...
dan friesen
It's our fourth anniversary.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fucked up.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a mess.
jordan holmes
That's crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex is really trying to push home this idea.
That the woman who got shot is going to be covered up by the media.
The media's not going to talk about it.
They're just going to pretend that didn't happen because it's too threatening to the globalists because she's a martyr for the cause of the patriots and the revolutionaries.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
jordan holmes
I would love to hear more about her, but I've got to take this call.
Joe Rogan is calling me.
No, I know I care about the martyr, but I've got to take this call.
alex jones
So Trump's the real deal.
He won on a landslide.
unidentified
Won on a landslide.
alex jones
We gotta find this woman's name.
Does anybody know?
Name of the woman killed in D.C. Name of the woman killed in D.C. Name of the woman killed in D.C. Name of the woman killed in D.C. Say her name.
jordan holmes
Say her name.
alex jones
Say her name.
Because they're not going to want us to know.
unidentified
No.
alex jones
They're going to try to suppress us for a while.
dan friesen
By this point, people were already figured out who she was on Twitter.
jordan holmes
And everything was fine.
We know where she lived.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That other voice is Ali Alexander.
He is also hanging out on the roof of this hotel.
jordan holmes
They're all just getting drunk after a fucking boat parade.
dan friesen
It does seem that way.
jordan holmes
That is what's happening.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
These people are fucking stupid.
dan friesen
It does seem that way.
So Alex tries to sign off here because he's done it.
jordan holmes
He's tired.
It's been a long day.
dan friesen
He took a little walk leading that parade earlier.
I know it's hard to remember that happened on this episode.
But, yeah, so he's signing off, and they seem like they really care about this woman who got shot.
alex jones
They're demonizing Trump with this narrative.
They're demonizing that he caused the violence.
No.
Protesting is good.
We were peaceful.
The federal police attacked the protesters first, enlisting a response.
Now they've killed a woman in cold blood, and they hope nobody gets that out, but you're going to get that out.
unidentified
Truly sad what's going on here.
dan friesen
What is?
Just full of empathy and care for their common person, their fellow human.
So Alex is signing off, but he throws it to Owen to wrap it up.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
Because they still got a little time on the war room or something.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because that's necessary.
People are definitely going to want to make sure they get the last ten minutes of this shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
So Alex is gone.
Yeah.
Theoretically.
Owen tries to get reflective about, like, what do we call this?
What do we call what's happened?
owen shroyer
I'm wondering what to call this situation.
tom pappert
So we've had...
alex jones
I'll tell you!
They go on to me pushing, and pushing, and pushing, and no one ever pushes back.
Then they freak out when we push back.
They burn the country down, we push back, they kill a woman, and we're the bad guys.
Don't you take our kindness for weakness, you bastard.
jordan holmes
You are the bad guy.
alex jones
I'm sorry.
dan friesen
So wait, was it Antifa or not?
Wait, you just barged back in to yell that the globalists don't like it when you push back in.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
That's the problem.
They want a violent revolution, but it looks stupid and they can't make money off of it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So, now we're trapped.
dan friesen
Yeah, they want it both ways.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's no good.
jordan holmes
And they also want their violent revolution to be non-violent for them.
They want to play a video game in God mode.
They don't want to actually...
Oh, it's just like fucking democracy!
Oh, we live in a republic, but I don't want to risk losing an election.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
The tyranny of the majority.
jordan holmes
Oh, I can't stand that, but I mean, yeah.
dan friesen
So, Owen wants to wrap up now, because he was only supposed to say a few more things, and Alex won't let him.
unidentified
A million or at least, I mean, half a million minimum at the Trump rally by 9 a.m. today.
They sat there, stood there, cheered all day long for all the great speakers.
owen shroyer
And then President Trump, President Trump was on the phone with Mike Pence before he spoke.
unidentified
My guess is, I don't, I mean, demanding, begging.
alex jones
I've got some more witnesses to her getting executed.
And now that's when people got mad and fought back.
So bring these guys in.
Bring this other chair in.
Hey, guys, we're shutting down soon.
Climb up here.
You came here.
Pull your chair in right there.
Get up there with Owen.
Introduce yourself.
Go ahead, Kevin.
dan friesen
So you got some more witnesses.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So Owen tries to interview these people.
jordan holmes
Also Infowars employees.
dan friesen
It turns out they're not so much witnesses.
unidentified
Alright, so you guys were in the Capitol today.
Are you guys both eyewitnesses to the ladies' execution?
The immediate aftermath.
Okay, so why don't you talk about what you saw?
I mean, it was pandemonium there.
dan friesen
Yeah, you'd assume so.
jordan holmes
Wild.
dan friesen
Yeah, so you didn't actually see the thing that we're presenting you as a witness of.
jordan holmes
Well, I didn't see the per se.
dan friesen
Also, unfortunate, you guys have put yourself in a place you're not legally supposed to have been.
And these witnesses are not witnesses.
They're right-wing blog types.
One of them is Lucian Wintrick, who's the former White House correspondent working at the Gateway Pundit, and somebody who's been on Infowars a bunch in the past.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
There's no way that Alex and Owen don't know who he is, yet they're pretending that they don't know each other, and it's just a random person who witnessed the shooting.
It's so bizarre that no one knows each other.
Also, the other...
This other guy, his name is Matthew Foster.
I have no idea who he is, but he's probably a shithead because he's hanging out with Lucian.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would make sense.
dan friesen
But, like, both of them are now, like, we were in there when that shooting happened.
Well, guess what?
You committed a crime.
jordan holmes
Hey, there you go.
Welcome.
dan friesen
So, a lot of people making these investigations pretty easy.
jordan holmes
They really don't understand that they're wrong and that crime is real even if they do it.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
And...
unidentified
I don't think white people can revolt in the United States.
jordan holmes
They're too goddamn entitled.
dan friesen
Well, and part of, you know, like sort of non-violent Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
And you will have to bear those consequences, and that's part of it.
So if you're doing something where you invade the Senate chamber and you do a sit-in or something like that, you recognize that there are consequences legally for that, because what you're doing is technically illegal.
And so these guys have decided to engage in some form of...
The protest that they feel is appropriate.
They have committed crimes and now they will have to bear it.
jordan holmes
No, but they're not supposed to be illegal and I'm not supposed to be punished for it, Dan.
dan friesen
I appreciate your feelings, Lucian, but unfortunately...
jordan holmes
No, but I'm the good guy.
dan friesen
There should be a warrant out for your arrest.
jordan holmes
No, look, I'm the good guy.
dan friesen
See?
jordan holmes
Because they stole the election.
I'm good.
dan friesen
Anyway, their interview is very boring.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And we have one last clip where Alex encourages Trump to use this woman's death as a weapon.
Sure.
alex jones
I'm going to call General Flynn.
I'm going to call Giuliani.
I'm going to call all my contacts and Trump's lawyers.
Trump has to say, we had a great event with over a million people.
It was all peaceful.
Riot police attacked folks.
They pushed back a little.
If you want to arrest those people, that's fine.
But you don't shoot him in the neck.
And he needs to know the name of that woman and humanize her and turn that against him.
Because they're blaming Trump for everything right now and 25th Amendment.
The fight is now.
So we're going to end this transmission in five minutes with your final comments.
Tom Pappers is going to take over.
And then I'm going to go to work tonight calling influencers to tell the president, don't come.
dan friesen
Don't cuck on it.
Later in the evening, Alex did a report about how Pence is going to invoke the 25th Amendment and basically just taking Papert's imagination and reporting it as news.
jordan holmes
Adding it up, yeah.
dan friesen
And by that point, he still is unaware of what this lady's name is.
I know what her name is, but I just don't care to...
I don't want to get involved.
jordan holmes
If there is one skill that Donald Trump absolutely does not possess...
It is getting people to care about human life.
dan friesen
That is true.
jordan holmes
So if you are asking Donald Trump to shit all over her for being dead, that failing in her mission, if you wanted the president to go on TV and say he loves insurrectionists who don't get shot by the cops, you can get that.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's skilled at that.
jordan holmes
I don't think you're going to get anybody being a martyr but Trump.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah, and if it's not personally involve him, I don't think he would care.
jordan holmes
He doesn't give a shit.
dan friesen
No.
I watched all this, and I lived inside this a bit, and it was really weird because I was experiencing a lot of stuff that was like what everyone else was experiencing and reality-based.
And at the same time, I was seeing and paying attention to the reportage and what have you on InfoWars.
And the gap between the two is staggering.
And it really...
I mean, lack of talent aside, because you had people like Papert and Harrison who just aren't good at this.
That aside, there was a noticeable rockiness to trying to figure out what to do, how to cover this.
And then there was a singularity of purpose that Alex had.
That I really felt, as I was listening to this, it fit that idea that he's trying to create patriot lore.
He's trying to create a myth out of this.
That is, this woman was murdered for the cause, and the globalists shot her to make us look bad.
Antifa probably agitated.
jordan holmes
But also, we were right to do the...
dan friesen
In case it wasn't Antifa, we were right to do it.
I just felt the...
First pages of narratives.
And first pages of things that will affect people down the road.
Be rallying cries for people in fucked up ways.
And I hope that that's not the case.
But that is the general sense of what I felt Alex's intentions were.
Now, at the same time, everybody else around him is working across purposes.
Everyone else, I have no idea what the fuck they're doing.
Tom Pappert seems insane.
jordan holmes
He's nuts.
dan friesen
Harrison Smith seems like a true believer.
Owen Troyer...
jordan holmes
Splits the difference somewhere between just being angry and also wanting to make Daddy so happy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So he's like, I want to kill everybody, but also Daddy needs money, so I'm going to back off because he said so, but I do want to kill everybody.
dan friesen
And also, I've recently realized that I'm pretty good at stand-up comedy.
jordan holmes
I'm pretty great.
I got one bit.
Give me 15. Yeah.
dan friesen
Hey, look, I'm unemployable if Infowars goes away.
Self-employed is a comic, baby.
jordan holmes
That's where the money...
unidentified
He is.
jordan holmes
I know this guy named Joe.
He made millions doing stand-up.
dan friesen
I'm going to go on tour with Nick DiPaolo.
Everything's going to be all right.
jordan holmes
I'm going to middle for Rob Schneider.
dan friesen
So I think that we've taken a bit of a...
I don't know.
Maybe...
A lighter tone than maybe some people would feel, and maybe lighter than I feel at times.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And I think a part of that is just, we're looking at Alex.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And this is scary, but he's also a fucking idiot.
harrison smith
Right.
dan friesen
And this is idiotic.
Right.
unidentified
And...
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I'm in a place...
I feel like I am...
Coming at this from a completely different point of view than everyone.
And it freaks me out.
I feel a little insane because I have never felt more confident that we are not going to be overthrown.
Because the reality of actually overthrowing the United States is that you would have to have the military on your side.
And the most important thing about the military is that it is an arm of the economy.
And there's no way that the economy is going to be collapsed by those fucking morons.
And there's no way that the military leadership who could, I mean, it's entirely conceivable that a coup could have happened.
If it was planned appropriately, if the military saw signals that this is actually some real shit.
If Trump didn't fucking run away like a coward, and if the right-wing politicians who were all up in arms about doing anything like that, if they joined the rally, all bets could be off.
But everybody who's important in terms of running the world saw those people do that shit and went, oh, f***.
Fuck, they did it too soon.
They blew their wad too early, and now they're an embarrassment.
dan friesen
Yeah, I see where you're coming from, and I think that I can agree on the sort of short scale.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
The fear is the longer scale.
The lessons that can be learned by the very serious people who are among these groups of ding-dongs.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The lessons that you can take from this, the image of...
You know, these people flying Confederate flags invading the fucking capital.
It's meaningful from an optics standpoint.
It's emboldening.
And so even if it doesn't encourage an actual coup, those are the sorts of imagery and the sort of things that you would need in order to inspire people to take other kinds of actions that could be destructive.
Right.
I don't know.
unidentified
Let's end this before we end up making predictions.
dan friesen
But I hope everyone is doing alright out there.
We will find out what happened after this on Monday.
We'll figure out whatever Alex decided.
Maybe it was Antifa, maybe it's not.
Who knows?
We'll see if by the next day Alex had figured out who this woman was.
And yeah.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's KnowledgeFight.com.
dan friesen
Yeah, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at KnowledgeFight and at GoToBedJordan.
dan friesen
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook.
If you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work right now.
dan friesen
Yeah, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
I'm the Juiciest Ice Cube.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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