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Jan. 1, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
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#515: December 28-29, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan prepare to dismount from Alex Jones's 2020 content. In this installment, Alex lies about Covid-19 a bunch, discusses his feelings about Wonder Woman 1984, and is visited by a pair of Journalist Babies.

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alex jones
19:12
d
dan friesen
59:03
j
jordan holmes
28:49
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joel skousen
01:10
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tom pappert
01:40
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patrick howley
00:34
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan, knowledge fight.
alex jones
I need, I need money.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your room.
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody!
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
And this is not 2020.
dan friesen
No, it is not!
jordan holmes
Yes!
dan friesen
Happy New Year!
jordan holmes
It is no longer here.
dan friesen
To all the fine folks out there.
jordan holmes
Welcome, one and all, to a brand new year.
Same old shit, though, but it's a brand new year.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Good riddance to old rubbish, which is what I'll say about 2020.
Hey, bye!
Yeah.
Hey, this is a podcast where we like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
Have we said that already?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I threw off our rhythm, but we're starting off with it a new way.
dan friesen
Cut.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Yeah, here we are.
jordan holmes
Happy New Year.
Dan!
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot is actually going to have to wait.
And tell the shout-outs to donors section of the podcast, and you'll enjoy it then.
But for now, I shall turn the question around on you.
What is yours?
jordan holmes
Dan, my bright spot is my two lovely dogs.
dan friesen
They're very cute.
I begrudgingly say.
jordan holmes
My new favorite pastime now is catching them in some sort of pose, taking a picture and then marking it up on my phone, and just drawing a fanciful little picture around it.
It is my favorite.
My favorite thing to do.
dan friesen
You gotta get those dogs on TikTok.
jordan holmes
What is TikTok?
dan friesen
Teach them dances.
jordan holmes
But what is TikTok?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Yeah, me neither, man.
It's not for us.
It's not for us.
We would just ruin it if we were there.
dan friesen
Get those dogs on Snapchat.
jordan holmes
Is Snapchat still a thing?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Never been on it.
I have no idea.
jordan holmes
Me neither.
Oh, God.
We're so old.
dan friesen
Get him on Vine.
jordan holmes
Ah, Vine!
That's where I'm gonna go.
Is Queeby still available?
I think I got a five-pitcher deal with him.
dan friesen
Get him a Quibby.
jordan holmes
I got him a Quibby.
I'll put him on Cameo and see what they have to say.
dan friesen
I think you could...
I think you'd run into ethical issues there.
I don't think that it's ethical.
jordan holmes
Are there labor laws for dogs and...
dan friesen
I do think that...
Based on your politics, you should not exploit the labor of those dogs.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
That's fair.
jordan holmes
I gotta get twin dogs so they only have to work four hours at a time, each of them.
dan friesen
If you redirected the money from the cameos towards all dog-related treats, then maybe, but it's still dicey territory.
jordan holmes
Otherwise, we're in child star territory there.
dan friesen
Well, that is a fine, bright spot, Jordan.
I'm glad you're having fun with those dogs.
jordan holmes
Delightful.
dan friesen
So today, Jordan, what we have in front of us is the first episode of 2021.
jordan holmes
Yay!
dan friesen
And we're still in 2020 for this episode.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah.
dan friesen
But we're going to go over December 28th and 29th.
That's Monday and Tuesday of last week, or I guess this week.
And that way we save the end of the year for Monday.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And then also, it'll be in the lead-up to Alex's going to Washington, D.C. on the 6th.
jordan holmes
That's right.
They're still doing that.
dan friesen
So next week, there's a plan to go to D.C. for all that.
jordan holmes
Wild.
dan friesen
Third time's the charm, I guess.
We can close out 2020, see how Alex ended the year on Monday, and then check in on the aftermath of that rally on Friday.
jordan holmes
It'll be great.
dan friesen
And have a blast.
jordan holmes
It'll be a real bummer if they win.
It'll be a bad rally for us.
dan friesen
It'll be a bad rally no matter what, I think.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fair.
That's fair.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, before we get into this episode.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
We have a little bit of an extended...
We have a number of shout-outs today, which is very exciting.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Some of this is for folks who have signed up and are supporting the show, which we very much appreciate.
Of course.
One of them is a bright spot.
jordan holmes
Okay!
dan friesen
So, first, this is not a bright spot.
I am saying this name with a gun to my head, metaphorically.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
This is a dark spot.
Alex Jones' tumescent moist penis.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
I didn't want to say that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We do have...
There are some flaws in our...
We'll thank everybody plan.
There are some flaws that can be exploited.
dan friesen
Yep.
Next, Hefe or Jeffe.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Frankie Fresh.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
Frankie Fresh's moist penis.
unidentified
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
jordan holmes
Oh, I'm sorry.
Am I not supposed to do that?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Oh, I apologize.
dan friesen
Next, Puff Danny.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Puff Danny.
dan friesen
There you go.
Next, Sammy.
S-A-M-M-I-E.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Sammy.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, don't go into the future.
It's hot there.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
Good advice for all of us.
dan friesen
Sure.
Next, Nomad Adam.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Nomadam.
unidentified
Ooh.
jordan holmes
Ah, poor man to it.
Yeah.
dan friesen
And finally, I'd like to say thank you to someone who donated on an elevated level.
We appreciate that very much, and this is very important.
Cisco is reverse flash.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimps so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Cisco is Reverse Flash.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
Jordan, we have a couple of special things here.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
First, gotta say, a very special birthday shout-out to Bjorn L. Okay, happy birthday.
Thank you for listening to the show and shooting us a message.
Yes.
Also, happy anniversary.
Getting married on the first, right?
jordan holmes
Getting married on the first?
dan friesen
Craziness.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's out of control.
dan friesen
I guess you'll never forget your anniversary if it's on the first.
jordan holmes
It's cheating.
dan friesen
It's a holiday.
jordan holmes
Come on, man.
It's cheating.
Nah, nah.
Get married on the second.
dan friesen
I still think that would be easy to remember.
I honestly think it would probably be...
I've not been married, but I think it would be probably...
It's not as hard as sitcoms make it seem to remember your anniversary.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
It's not that bad.
Oh, no!
Not again!
dan friesen
That happened in every show.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Multiple times.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but it's still never going to beat up the going on two dates in the same restaurant.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
That's the best one there's ever been.
dan friesen
That was a good gag.
jordan holmes
Every show for 20 years had one of those.
dan friesen
It's fantastic.
Happy anniversary to Ryan and Anne, randomly.
jordan holmes
Oh, happy anniversary.
dan friesen
Yeah, happy anniversary to you both.
jordan holmes
Yes, indeed.
dan friesen
It would be weird to only wish one of you an anniversary.
So I insist on sending this message to both of you.
jordan holmes
Happy anniversary to one, and get out of that relationship to the other.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay, I'm sorry.
dan friesen
So now, here's my bright spot, Jordan.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
This is something that is going to blow minds from here to Scandinavia.
jordan holmes
Scandinavia.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Scandinavian minds, too.
dan friesen
So, I got two messages in the past little bit from people who are trying to set up shout-outs for their significant other.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But unbeknownst to either of them, they have both messaged me.
jordan holmes
We did not owe Henry someone!
We did not owe Henry!
How dare you O 'Henry us?
Who are you?
This is a coordinated attack.
unidentified
This was...
jordan holmes
We got O 'Henry!
dan friesen
Elizabeth from Sweden.
Axel sent me a message to give you a shout-out to say that you're a policy wonk.
Axel from Sweden, Elizabeth sent me a message asking to give you a shout-out and that you would go crazy.
jordan holmes
And you must both shave your heads now.
That is the rule.
Both of you must shave your heads and buy each other combs.
Let's go all the way in!
dan friesen
I just found that to be...
jordan holmes
That's the most delightful thing that I can think of.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I hope both of your minds are blown.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a bright spot for me too, Dan.
Fuck my dogs.
I'm getting rid of them.
I just want to think about this for the rest of my life.
dan friesen
What a way to start the...
jordan holmes
It is great.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It is great.
dan friesen
It's wholesome.
jordan holmes
Super wholesome.
dan friesen
I hope it's a nice surprise for them.
jordan holmes
Cute as shit.
dan friesen
Yep.
And Elizabeth from Sweden and Axel from Sweden, you're both Policy Walks.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you both for brightening my week.
Yes, thank you very much.
It was great.
jordan holmes
I can't imagine listening to this show.
You would have to be really, really deep in it if you listened to that part of our show and were like, no fun!
No, I don't like it!
My heart isn't warmed by that.
I'm bitter as shit and I'm going to cry.
dan friesen
I think some people just hit the 15 seconds ahead.
None of this bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's our version of ads.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, basically.
So, Jordan, like I said, December 28th and 29th?
jordan holmes
Yes, sir, Dan.
dan friesen
Here we go.
We're jumping in on Monday.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And this is where Alex is starting off.
alex jones
Start your engines, my friends.
It's Monday, December 28th.
The year is 2020.
We have several very informative guests that are going to be joining us coming up today.
And I'm going to lay out just exactly where we are on planet Earth in the fight against the globalists.
But first, President Trump over the weekend tweeted out a very powerful video titled Man in America 2020 has been a year like no other.
Here is that report.
dan friesen
So, this report that Alex is citing that Trump tweeted out is not what you would call a report.
That term's being used real loosely.
In reality, it's a video about how the election was stolen, created by a guy named Seth Holhouse, who runs a website called Man in America.
I wanted to learn a little bit more about this guy, so I went to his website and I noticed a few things that I thought were interesting.
Two big things popped up about his URL, which is mia.news.
All right.
The other thing that popped up was this guy had a.news URL, and pretty much the only people I've ever seen getting.news pages are Infowars Associates.
I'm sure some other people are doing it too, but it's become something I associate so much with Alex and his crew that I instinctively...
Yeah.
100.
It might have been slightly unexpected that this video went as viral as it did after Trump tweeted it out, because according to an article by Will Sommer in the Daily Beast, some interesting things started to happen recently.
In particular, it appears that references online to Whole House being a member of the Falun Gong movement began to be erased, including a mention of his appearance at a 2007 Minnesota conference on the website Clear Harmony, and all mentions of him on mingwhai.org.
Great, great.
jordan holmes
Good stuff.
Everybody's got to work.
Freelance is tough.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is not an individual who made a news report that's super powerful.
It's the product of a longtime employee of a deeply right-wing...
Propaganda media outlet that essentially deifies Trump.
The removal of Whole House's name from those websites is kind of telling, and the most likely explanation for why it happened is because the propaganda video featured him as the narrator, and it doesn't work nearly as well as if you know that he's the member of a spiritual movement that reportedly views Trump as a critical ally in the coming Judgment Day where communists will be sent to hell.
jordan holmes
There is that.
dan friesen
According to former Epoch Times employees speaking to the NBC News.
jordan holmes
There is that, yeah.
That does kind of mess with your credibility a hair.
dan friesen
Right, you like the presentation of the...
The man in America.
Just the American flag behind him.
It's all just, you know.
jordan holmes
So it's less a media report and more a book report on Behold a Perel Horse.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The charade works better when you just believe that the whole house is what he presents himself to be.
From his website, his bio, quote, All right.
jordan holmes
All I just heard was a lot of ravens, like, screeching in my ears.
Like, that's all I heard was like...
That's it.
dan friesen
It's sort of an angry mix between...
Hacksaw Jim Duggan and Charlie Brown's teacher.
jordan holmes
I've never written a good bio for myself, but I've always strayed about as far away from self-mythologizing as I possibly could.
dan friesen
This kind of reminds me of that advertising dude who created the Frank Bates persona to sell survival food and prepper supplies to conservatives because he knew that the pitch would sound more attractive coming from a normal, everyday kind of fellow like Frank, even though he didn't exist, compared to the reality of it being a...
You know, just bullshit, being resold to them by an affiliate marketing billionaire who lives like in New York.
jordan holmes
It does not, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's a sort of puppet game.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's tricking flyover states.
dan friesen
Anyway, I bring this up to remind everyone that Alex Jones considers this a news report.
What he's doing is just desperately chasing the actual new alternative propaganda media.
Folks with associations with like Epoch Times or OAN and Newsmax until like a week or two ago when they admitted that Biden won the election.
It appears that Alex really didn't want to work on this episode because other than introducing that special report, he doesn't get back into the studio until 20 minutes into the episode.
jordan holmes
That's very fun.
dan friesen
He just plays stuff and is like, oh, fuck it.
jordan holmes
I appreciate that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Have we definitively proven that Falun Gong is wrong, though?
Are they still in the running for end of day's winner?
dan friesen
I don't know nearly enough about that as a group to speak with any kind of authority or credibility.
So I can't say...
Their point is solely that China is repressive of groups.
I don't disagree with that point.
But I don't think that groups like the Epoch Times...
Are on the up and up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was being facetious.
I don't think all communists are going to go to hell.
I just don't think that's going to end up happening in the next...
I don't think, even if it does, I don't think Trump is your ally in that fight.
dan friesen
Probably not.
jordan holmes
I would say he's not the one you want to go with.
dan friesen
I also feel like he's going to very shortly become a less effective ally.
jordan holmes
Let's hope.
We can only hope.
dan friesen
So Alex gets in.
He's quite a ways into the episode before he really says anything substantial.
alex jones
So let me give the number out to respond to Trump signing the...
jordan holmes
Declaration of what?
alex jones
Emergency relief bill that's really just a foreign globalist pork barrel operation or the pardons or any of that.
You're welcome to call in and we can all get our brownie points with Twitter and Facebook criticizing Trump.
But that all really becomes a distraction from the world government, Bill Gates, the UN, the forced inoculations, the COVID systems, Joe Biden.
dan friesen
I honestly can't tell if Alex is mad at Trump about the relief bill or not.
jordan holmes
No, it doesn't seem like he...
dan friesen
I can tell that he's going to be mad at callers if they're mad at Trump about it, though.
I can tell that for sure.
They're just trying to get Twitter brownie points, man.
Another thing that I was struck by listening to this is, like, we're almost 30 minutes into the show, and granted, Alex wasn't on air for most of it, but one of the lead stories isn't the Christmas morning bombing in Nashville that he interrupted his holiday to declare an almost certain false flag.
Shouldn't there be a follow-up on that?
Like, Owen hosted the show on Sunday, so Alex didn't cover it then, so it seems like now would be a good time to do this a little bit more responsibly.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, no, no.
It happened a couple of days ago.
You don't need to worry about it.
I already forgot.
dan friesen
So, he doesn't get to this immediately.
That's not the lead story.
The lead story appears to be Trump should not leave office.
jordan holmes
I don't like that story.
alex jones
Inauguration is in 23 days.
The coronation of the Chi-Con puppet.
They've built the stage there.
Biden says he's not going to have one.
It's going to be virtual.
Well, then why is the stage being built?
Well, because Trump has refused to move out.
Trump has refused to go.
He's told his age, everybody, don't start packing the furniture or the clothing or stuff that's ours.
We're not leaving.
Well, what do you expect President Trump to do?
President Trump shouldn't leave.
President Trump shouldn't go.
If it's fraud, he should fight on.
dan friesen
This is just kind of sad, because just imagine, as anti-Bush as Alex pretends to be, just imagine him arguing in support of Al Gore squatting in the White House because the 2000 election was stolen.
jordan holmes
Right, yeah.
dan friesen
Earlier in this episode, Alex said that even if Trump was a horrible bad guy, the election was still stolen from him, so we have a responsibility to fight to overturn it.
I know that he said that the 2000 election was fraudulent, but somehow I just can't imagine him working up this passion to support Bill Clinton's vice president getting into office.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, the pyramids, they closed those off so you couldn't get out.
So I'm fine.
If Trump doesn't want to leave, we just board up the White House, build a nice little pyramid around it, and then, you know, he lives in comfort.
I say we drop snakes in every now and again just to keep things exciting, you know, for the few weeks they have with air or whatever.
Yeah, absolutely.
Run away from snakes for a little while.
dan friesen
Or hunt.
Make sport of it.
unidentified
Just the Trump family running around the White House stabbing fucking snakes.
dan friesen
Yeah, why not?
unidentified
I love it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that'd be great.
dan friesen
So Alex talks about like, hey, you know, I went to this rally, this Jericho march a while back, back in D.C. Sure.
And I said that Biden will not be president one way or another.
A lot of people thought, maybe rightly, that who does speak it kind of violently.
unidentified
A little bit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I was not.
And in fact, I'm a snitch.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Alright, sell me on this one.
dan friesen
Alex outs himself as a snitch.
jordan holmes
Sell me on this.
alex jones
We elected President Trump in one way or another, either by overturning the election and showing it's a fraud and getting Congress to act on January 6th and not certify it for Biden, or whether we end up impeaching Joe Biden or getting him arrested as a CHICOM agent, one way or another he will be removed.
And that's what I said in my speech a few weeks ago in D.C. that made national headlines claiming I said, kill Joe Biden.
Really, why haven't I been arrested?
Because that's not what I said.
The Secret Service hasn't called me.
The last thing I want is for Joe Biden to get assassinated.
That's how they can turn lemons into lemonade.
That's how they can make that guy a victim and a good guy when he's a bad guy.
Then we'll have Kamala Harris, probably worse.
The Secret Service knows I'm on record.
Not once, not twice, but three times getting crazy people arrested who were actually stockpiling weapons and planning to kill presidents.
These crazies have sent us letters and called us before and said, I'm going to kill George W. Bush.
I'm going to kill Obama.
You know what I do?
I pick the phone up and I call the Secret Service.
dan friesen
I don't believe Alex really, but if that's true, good.
You should be doing that.
But also, don't tell your audience that.
jordan holmes
I would definitely not tell your audience that.
If we said, hey, some people said we're going to kill the president, we called the FBI and they got taken care of, people would be like, yeah, good job!
dan friesen
It's the appropriate thing to do.
It's deeply alienating of extreme right-wing weirdos.
jordan holmes
That's a problem.
That's a problem for people who are interested in you.
dan friesen
If you speak too freely, I will snitch.
That's what Alex said.
jordan holmes
I am a turncoat.
Yes.
dan friesen
Look, I love the extreme stuff.
I love it.
I love dancing around it politically.
Now, that said, I will call Janet Reno in a goddamn second.
jordan holmes
This glass eye is...
Have you heard snitches get stitches?
Yeah, this is a glass eye.
Let's just keep that straight.
dan friesen
Real fool's move on Alex's part.
jordan holmes
Listen, all of you, I will turn you in.
Alright, good work.
dan friesen
So, he's real disinterested in the Nashville situation, which I found kind of surprising, because...
Like I said, he put out a video about it on Christmas, which kind of makes you think that maybe he did smell something really important in the air.
Maybe he did pick up on some pattern that he wanted to flesh out.
No, he just doesn't really care.
But still probably a false flag.
alex jones
We're entering the phase of false flags.
There's a lot of questions about what really happened at the bombing in Nashville.
We've got Joel Skousen, World Affairs Brief, who's got a lot of...
Excellent analysis joining us on that front.
dan friesen
He says nothing about the mission.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, what the fuck could Skousen know about?
dan friesen
If I know Skousen, and I do, a little, I would say he's going to say it's a false flag.
But I can't say that for sure because he doesn't talk about it when he's on the show.
jordan holmes
Why would you?
He doesn't know anything about it.
dan friesen
He has bigger things to talk about.
jordan holmes
Our munitions expert, Joel Skousen, coming in.
dan friesen
Well, Joel...
You know, I'm sure Joel would have made time to talk about this possibly being a false flag, but he had more important things to do, like tell you you've got to live an hour outside of town if you want to survive.
jordan holmes
Absolutely!
dan friesen
Not too far, because then it becomes almost impossible to get supplies.
But you have to get far away enough from places where there's large populations that people can't walk to you.
unidentified
He does go a while down that road.
jordan holmes
All right.
I do like a good...
That sounds like when I was six and my friends and I were building a snow fort and we drew up, like, there's going to be parapets here and there's going to be turrets and we're going to make sure that there's going to be murder holes.
dan friesen
We're going to make a trebuchet out of ice.
Exactly.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Cool, man.
No, it's fun to dream.
It's fun to dream.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Also, I know exactly where to find Joel Skousen now.
About an hour out of time.
jordan holmes
Let's set up a radius.
dan friesen
We've got a Skousen perimeter.
jordan holmes
Wait!
Also, it's not mileage.
It's about an hour.
Doesn't matter if you're driving or walking or wherever it is, it's just gotta be about an hour.
dan friesen
I think it's by truck.
jordan holmes
By truck.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's the sense I got.
jordan holmes
Right, not as the crow flies.
unidentified
No, no.
dan friesen
Crows can't get lumber back to your house.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Or piping.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
So Nashville conspiracies appear to have deflated quite a bit.
But there's an escalation going on surrounding COVID-19 related stuff.
And I'm getting to the point where I'm getting the sense that Alex is just saying it's not even real.
Like he's dancing dangerously close to David Icke territory.
alex jones
China's open for business.
They're bragging that...
We'll never be open because we didn't, quote, handle COVID right.
It's totally made up.
Totally hyped.
PCR tests are fake.
It's all admitted.
unidentified
So...
dan friesen
He seems to be implying that the tests themselves are all fake, as opposed to amplifying and misleading people.
But he's so unclear.
He's so unclear, and he'll say, like, I'm not saying the virus is fake.
But all of the ways he's describing the circumstances would lead you to that conclusion.
jordan holmes
Sure.
I would just, like, my guess is he's just reactionary, contrarian for the sake of it.
Like, if you say anything, like, oh, it's 100% real.
He'd be like, no, it's fake.
No, I mean, the virus is real, but the tests are fake.
No matter what, something is fake enough for him to disregard the entirety of the thing.
dan friesen
I think there's also a feeling of he's just desperate to be interesting.
And so if you come in with a piece of information, he'll blow your mind with the contradictory piece of it.
Yeah, that's fair.
So one thing also that he's contrary to is Trump.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Kidding.
jordan holmes
Nice.
dan friesen
But he's not very happy about those pardons.
jordan holmes
Oh, the ones where he pardoned war criminals and murderers and white supremacists and cramers?
dan friesen
It's hard to say what Alex doesn't approve of.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
The number one issue is not Trump's stupid pardons, which I disagree with.
These latest ones, it's terrible.
The number one issue is world government, new world order, technocracy, passports to travel, to leave your house, digital IDs, total control.
It's not coming.
It's here.
So I want to know what you think the number one issue is and what we should do about it.
dan friesen
So Alex has plenty of time to cover this story with responsibility.
Like, why don't you agree with those pardons?
Which ones?
What's your problem?
And why do you think Trump pardoned those people anyway?
So I was going through the pardon lists from the 22nd and the 23rd, because I was trying to figure out, like, you know, what's the issue here?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And, you know, you had, like, Roger Stone and Paul Manafort were probably, like, the headliners of those shows.
And it's like, Alex can't be mad about that.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Like, he's for that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So then it was, like, Charles Kushner, Jared Kushner's dad?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, maybe.
Alex is kind of wishy-washy on Jared.
He thinks he's a globalist.
Charles Kushner was set up.
Yeah, sure.
He was just trying to prove that this person was cheating or whatever.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was a good sell.
dan friesen
Whatever the fuck.
jordan holmes
Almost got me on that one.
dan friesen
Yeah, so I've seen him go both ways with that.
So then, of course, what you were referring to is the four dudes who were Blackwater mercenaries.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the serial killers.
dan friesen
Yeah, who carried out the Nassir Square massacre.
Yeah.
Which is really fucked up considering that last year...
Trump pardoned...
What was that guy?
Eddie Gallagher?
The dude who killed civilians.
It's a bad pattern.
I think I got a feeling that that's what Alex is talking about.
Because so much of his career and any kind of...
You know, like, well, you gotta give it to Alex, is built on his opposition to the Iraq War.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So much of it is based on, like, I am not a war hawk.
I have principles.
I'm not gonna just go along with George W. Bush in this war that's built on a lie.
You know, that kind of stuff is the only reason that his career had any legs to begin with.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Otherwise, he would just be, I don't know, a hyper-talented anti-communist weirdo no one's heard of.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, that's what prompted...
People of other political alignments to consider him.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like as being like, this guy's on to something.
jordan holmes
If you go hard enough on...
Everybody's enemy.
Some people will, even from the opposite side, be like, yeah, you're going real hard, man.
I'm all about that.
dan friesen
I had some friends in college who almost got sucked into LaRouche.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because these guys all suck so bad!
dan friesen
Yeah, and so I kind of thought about that.
I was like, well, that would be such an invalidation of really a core piece of Alex's premise.
But I was like, we've heard him talk about wanting martial law.
Putting socialists and Antifa in camps and stuff.
That's an invalidation.
You could do that if you wanted to.
So here's my theory.
jordan holmes
What's your theory?
dan friesen
I don't think it's actually those pardons.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I was looking through the list of pardons.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
And I found that two pardons went to John Tate and Jesse Benton, the two Ron Paul campaign members who tried to bribe an Iowa State rep to switch his endorsement from Bachman to Ron Paul back in 2012.
You might think that Alex would support both of those pardons because he's excusing the crimes of people who are on the same side as Alex, but you'd be wrong.
Alex hates Jesse Benton.
He's indicated in the past that he feels like Benton has worked to keep him on the outside of things, and...
That Benton weaseled his way into the Patriot movement by marrying Ron Paul's granddaughter.
jordan holmes
I do remember that.
He's done episodes about it.
He's done a lot about that.
That is really funny.
dan friesen
And fucking hating that guy.
unidentified
He is a scourge on the Paul family.
dan friesen
I think it might be that.
jordan holmes
That has to be it.
That's hilarious.
dan friesen
You know, you gotta go with the psychology of the individual, and there is nothing that motivates Alex more than petty grievance.
jordan holmes
Yes!
Petty spite is number one on the things...
Look, you could have murdered his family, but if Stelter walks by, it's Stelter who's gonna get the hate.
dan friesen
Philosophical consistency is what you would hope for.
So you would hope it would be something like, you know, these people are out-and-out war criminals.
And pardoning them may, in fact, actually be a violation of the Geneva Convention.
jordan holmes
No, I believe it is, yeah.
dan friesen
Experts in the field have indicated that it is.
jordan holmes
No, I mean, it is fucked up because more, I think, than any other decision that a president can make...
Pardons are intimate.
Do you know what I mean?
You pardon somebody knowing full well that they were convicted of their crimes, and chances are, did them.
And pardoning those guys is very much like, brown people are not people to me.
That's what that says.
I am pardoning those people.
dan friesen
The most generous interpretation is...
Civilians in other countries are at the mercy of our military.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The most generous.
I would argue that it points more towards I'm fine with genocide, but yeah.
I mean, that's the reality of it.
So if you see Trump pardon those guys and you're fine with that, you're fine with everything.
That's what it is.
dan friesen
The message of it is harrowing.
Yeah, it's terrifying.
I mean, there's a lot of decisions that are made by elected officials that send, like, less than ideal messages.
That's definitely true.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But something like that does give a real middle finger to the idea that anyone in the rest of the world would treat us like we're operating from any kind of place of good faith.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's just...
jordan holmes
Any movie where they're like...
Oh, okay.
We're gonna go in.
We've got this super murderer in the darkest dungeon and we're gonna use him now.
No, those are the bad guys.
The guys who are like, yeah, let's set the dog loose.
That's what this pardon is, is let's set the dogs loose on our enemies.
dan friesen
And it's fucked up.
jordan holmes
Not even our enemies, just people.
dan friesen
Except in that one season of Heroes, where it's the guys on level five.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Some of them were really bad, but I think a couple of them were actually got...
They were just down there because their powers were too strong.
jordan holmes
Too strong!
dan friesen
I don't remember exactly.
jordan holmes
They're weapons of mass destruction.
dan friesen
I'd kind of lost interest in them.
jordan holmes
Don't worry about it.
No one's hurting you.
dan friesen
So Heroes is actually a work of science fiction.
You might be surprised to learn that Alex took in a little piece of science fiction over the weekend.
jordan holmes
I am not surprised.
alex jones
So I want to go to Manuel, Diana, Brent, Seth, Kirk, Joe, Wendy, and others.
jordan holmes
Diana.
Oh, no.
alex jones
It's funny we got a lady named Diana calling in.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out of here.
alex jones
Marvel Comics, I don't like these modern movies.
They're all full of propaganda and very, very boring and have really stupid plots.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
alex jones
And a lot of men are kind of arrested in development and spend their lives obsessing with it.
But I got taken by some friends last night to see the new Wonder Woman movie.
And I've seen the other two.
Been basically forced to watch those as well.
They were unwatchable.
This one was next level.
jordan holmes
You just went for a movie.
alex jones
It was like a hallucination.
dan friesen
Why do you keep getting dragged to movies?
Like half of his media diet he's being forced to watch.
jordan holmes
Just say that you like stuff.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Why can't you?
Oh, no, I'm not really that big a fan of Star Wars.
No, no, no.
I don't really do sports.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
I don't really do comic book movies.
Fuck off.
Say you like it.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
You wanted to see Wonder Woman because you like comic book movies.
unidentified
Yeah, I got dragged to it opening weekend.
Why?
Why?
jordan holmes
Why did you get dragged?
dan friesen
I got dragged to a movie theater on opening weekend to see Wonder Woman 1984 during COVID.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
By some of my friends who just dragged me there.
I got trussed up.
dan friesen
Bizarre.
jordan holmes
I was gagged.
I was dragged.
From my truck.
dan friesen
Although I will say that not liking it is probably the most obvious review you could imagine from Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Female superhero.
Yeah, done.
unidentified
Yeah, get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
Strangely loved the new Ghostbusters.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
He did not.
dan friesen
So anyway, it's basically like if you go see Wonder Woman, you're getting mind controlled.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
This one was next level propaganda.
It was like a hallucination.
Flicker rates, everything.
This is the future of mind control.
And a very positive message on the surface, a very negative one, deeper into it.
But it was very well done.
jordan holmes
Be careful what you wish for?
alex jones
Very cheesy at one level, very sophisticated at another.
I mean, this is Stanley Kubrick level 2.0.
jordan holmes
So you liked it?
alex jones
Very, very sophisticated.
So when you go see that movie, you are basically being mind controlled.
dan friesen
Okay.
I just say you didn't like the movie.
jordan holmes
I'm going to tell you this right now.
I saw about 80% of that movie.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Fell asleep on the last part.
dan friesen
Probably mind control.
jordan holmes
No, that was fine.
No, it was fine.
I was happy to have fallen asleep.
dan friesen
The controllers just wanted you to fall asleep.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it was good stuff.
Two things.
dan friesen
Your subconscious brain took in the rest of it, and now I don't feel safe around you.
jordan holmes
Not sophisticated at all.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Not even a little bit.
dan friesen
Kind of a comic book movie?
jordan holmes
Two, Pedro Pascal is the greatest actor in the history of the world.
He is very charismatic.
Oh, it's amazing.
So good.
He was the best part.
Once his part was done, that's when I fell asleep.
I was like, ah, fuck this.
dan friesen
I think a lot of people feel the same way about Game of Thrones.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there we go.
All right, watch out.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't...
Maybe it's a sign of getting older.
Maybe I'm maturing.
I don't find Alex's movie reviews as good anymore.
When he did The Watchmen, it was hilarious.
This is kind of just a slow pitch.
jordan holmes
We're both too old to really get into a bad movie criticism of Wonder Woman.
dan friesen
Maybe.
I could stand someone telling me what's wrong with the plot, like if there's a structural issue with the story or something.
jordan holmes
It doesn't make sense, but that's fine.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think you could probably still enjoy it.
I mean, there's incredibly huge problems with most of the Fast and Furious movies.
jordan holmes
I can't think of any.
dan friesen
They're still amazing.
jordan holmes
Internal logic is fine.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm too old.
Alex is ten years older than me, and I'm too old to listen to his dumbass tell me about how this is sophisticated mind control.
jordan holmes
I think it was interesting.
dan friesen
Oh, the men are cowards.
jordan holmes
I think it was interesting the first time we watched it, because the juxtaposition of a gruff, ostensible newsman just being like, and Watchmen's stupid, is very funny.
And now we're on movie 300 of him being a child, and you're like, alright.
dan friesen
But Watchmen 2, there was depth to his review.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
And he kept mispronouncing Ozymandias.
jordan holmes
That's true.
Ozymandias is pretty great.
dan friesen
But there was something to that.
He was swinging.
He was swinging for the fences.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
And this is just kind of like...
I kind of just get the sense that he was overwhelmed by the visuals and stuff and didn't understand the movie, and so he decided to call it Brainwashing.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
This is beyond suspended disbelief.
This is beyond lowering your brainwaves to a near-sleep state.
This is beyond daydreaming.
This was...
Full-on hallucination.
And I was conscious of it, second to second, but still, my brain was, you need to stop watching this.
This is not good.
So it was next level.
Absolutely next level.
dan friesen
I think he was just sitting there and was like, I don't know what's going on.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, maybe take some brain force and it'll allow you to focus on the movie.
dan friesen
That might help.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he analyzes the film a little bit.
And by the way, I'd like to point out that he's spending as much time on Wonder Woman for no fucking reason.
jordan holmes
No, no, Diana called.
dan friesen
Well, there is that.
But he could have explained what his problem is with Trump's pardons.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
In this time that he's wasting on trivial nonsense.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but he heard the name Diana, so you gotta talk about Wonder Woman 84. Right.
dan friesen
Or, I don't know, any other thing that has Diana in the name.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Princess Diana.
Gotta talk about that.
dan friesen
Couldn't come up with another.
jordan holmes
Couldn't come up with another.
alex jones
The whole theme is, there's an end-of-world event coming.
And we're the ones making it happen because we want too much, because of our desires.
We've got to give our will over to something else to stop it.
But it tricks you.
Your will has been given over to this Antichrist character, but then you've got to denounce him but give your will to another collective that is the goddess Diana.
But you've still given your will over.
And men are bad.
Women are going to lead us out of this.
And that's what the Carnegie Endowment was set up to do, was to end the human species as we know it.
Not just going to end men, they're going to end women as well, and make us corporate creations that are patented and controlled, and the globalists are God.
dan friesen
Two stars.
So I was listening to that, and I was like, okay.
I've not seen this movie, and I'm not going to see this movie, probably.
And not because I don't want to or anything, I just don't see movies that often.
jordan holmes
No, no, you'll be fine.
dan friesen
It looks good, like any hero movie is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But I was guessing that there's some sort of a villain that tricks people into supporting them, and then Wonder Woman gets their support, and that is how she's able to be successful.
jordan holmes
Kinda.
dan friesen
But it's close enough.
That's what he's talking about, more or less, right?
jordan holmes
Yeah, but the problem is...
dan friesen
Give your will to someone.
Support them.
jordan holmes
No spoilers, because I didn't finish the movie.
dan friesen
No spoilers, because I can't.
jordan holmes
Because I can't spoil it.
But the main bad guy is Pedro Pascal, Nicolas Caging all over the scenery.
And he can grant wishes, but it's a monkey's paw scenario.
dan friesen
Oh.
jordan holmes
It's a classic, what do you want?
And there's a price for it.
dan friesen
Oh, okay.
So he's a Twilight Zone episode.
jordan holmes
Exactly, yes.
The entire movie is Nicolas Cage Twilight Zoning everyone.
My review of the movie is very simple.
At the beginning, it's butt.
And then in the middle, you're like, oh, this is pretty interesting.
And then it's butt again.
Like, that's the whole movie.
dan friesen
What do you mean, butt?
jordan holmes
I mean, butt.
Like a buttocks?
Bad.
unidentified
Oh.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's nothing wrong with buttocks.
jordan holmes
No.
Okay, fine.
dan friesen
I don't understand that being a...
jordan holmes
All right.
unidentified
Fair enough.
dan friesen
I feel like there's another way you could have expressed that.
jordan holmes
Ass head.
unidentified
Hmm.
jordan holmes
No?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Anyway, don't watch Wonder Woman on LSD, bro.
alex jones
So again, lots of cheesiness, lots of kid stuff, lots of mindlessness, lots of 80s nostalgia, but that's just for your conscious brain.
Behind it, all the other manipulations taking place.
So I'll do a more in-depth review later, but it was definitely mind-control caliber material.
I definitely would not take it on LSD.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that most bright, flashy things might be a little bit tough to watch while you're on LSD when you're 46 years old.
unidentified
Probably, with a history of amphetamine abuse.
dan friesen
And a loose grasp on reality.
jordan holmes
Yeah, to begin with.
Yeah, from the jump.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Hmm.
jordan holmes
I don't think so.
I don't think that's a smart move on his part.
No!
No.
dan friesen
So, Alex does not really...
I don't think he gets back into a more in-depth Wonder Woman review, which actually...
I'm equal parts disappointed and glad he didn't, you know?
I could have used something a little bit deeper than this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But at the same time, I don't care.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He'll do it eventually.
jordan holmes
The way he describes Wonder Woman makes me want to watch they live with him just to see if, like, does he even see the hidden messages?
Like, the consumed messages?
Does he just see, like, a blank sheet?
And he's like, I don't get why these people hate these aliens.
They're great.
Capitalists are running everything.
All these people.
What are you even looking at blank signs for?
Come on.
dan friesen
We can talk about this the next time it comes up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or maybe...
No, I already did this with Marty.
The episode where Rowdy Rowdy Piper was on Infowars.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right!
And he talked about They Live, yeah.
dan friesen
Don't think Alex gets a whole lot of...
So in this next clip, Alex says something that is completely...
I just don't understand it.
The first part of it, categorically not true.
The second part, impossible.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
You know, if you're an American...
You've been brought up that America's bad, America's terrible, it's the worst place on earth, we're the most oppressive people anywhere, and statistically, it's actually the opposite.
But we're never taught about the evils and corruption that goes on in other places where tyranny is in charge.
But when you look at historical tyranny through the last few thousand years, and then current tyrannies, and tyrannies the last hundred years, every form of tyranny, every form of abuse, every form of oppression, and really nasty stuff, and the worst people being in charge, He's in the UN, he's in the world government, he's in the corporate governance, he's in the communist Chinese.
dan friesen
That makes no sense, that part at the end there.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The last thousand years.
I mean, I guess you could go with China, perhaps, but the UN leading that sentence is tough.
The way you make that sentence work is you just pretend that the world government is everything you don't like, and that the UN is actually also the League of Nations, and it's also every government that has ever existed throughout Europe, and, you know, whatever.
jordan holmes
I think it's really...
dan friesen
Just define your own terms, and then...
You can say all corruption has been part of this.
jordan holmes
I think it's really funny that he absolutely cannot bring up a very obvious one in Russia with just being like, well, Putin has declared himself president for life and any crimes that he commits are retroactively impossible to charge him for.
He just attempted to kill the only person running against him for leadership.
That sounds a lot like stuff Alex wants Trump to do.
Like, one-to-one.
dan friesen
And I think that the problem is that in America, we're never taught about other places doing bad things.
jordan holmes
Never!
We never hear about it.
dan friesen
Never.
jordan holmes
Uh-uh.
Not something...
We definitely don't hear about bad things happening in other countries very differently than when they happen here, too.
It would be wild if we were to cover different stories, you know, the same story differently.
That'd just be crazy.
dan friesen
We never have people on the radio talking about how the Civil War was about states' rights.
jordan holmes
No, never!
No, no, no.
dan friesen
So that was weird.
I got very confused by that.
And then I got kind of mad.
alex jones
So pretty amazing.
Information.
And when John Hopkins put that report out, they had Snopes and everybody go, oh, it's false.
And they go, well, all the year's numbers aren't in.
But at the study, they looked at that.
They looked at last year, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands more already than it would be this year.
So they averaged in the rest of the year and found still about the same deaths.
But they said, well, it's not totally scientific down to the person.
Well, nothing is with statistics.
That's how they spin the fact into something that they can then obfuscate.
dan friesen
This is really simple.
According to the CDC, there were 2,839,205 deaths total in 2019, a rate of about 867 per 100,000 population.
We don't have the total data for 2020 yet, and reliable figures won't be available for months, but the AP reported that scholars estimate the number will be over 3.2 million.
Typically you would expect a consistent rate of death to produce between 20,000 and 50,000 extra deaths each year as the population ages and also increases in just total numbers.
unidentified
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
There's just a reality that people are dying, and Alex's political position depends on him living in complete denial of that fact.
And I don't mean to be too preachy, but I hope this haunts him for the rest of his life, how ghastly this kind of behavior is.
People are suffering and losing loved ones.
For him just to pull this kind of bullshit, it's just...
I want more Wonder Woman reviews.
I don't want this shit.
This is what I was telling you before the episode.
I was like, yeah, I got one of those moments I haven't had in a while where I just had to walk away from the computer.
I had to stand up and be like, no.
jordan holmes
No, no.
You know, like, my family is what they are, but my little sister and her husband both tested positive not too long ago, and I just, like, the possibilities for damage to them that we aren't even considering, like, fine, I get it.
You don't think that you're gonna die.
That's great.
Like, have you not seen long COVID symptoms?
Have you not seen people's psychosis manifest?
Like, how do you not understand how terrifyingly dangerous this shit is?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And it's happened to people in my...
You know, like, there's no escape from it.
And it's because of fucking monsters like this.
dan friesen
Oh, it's because of at least behaviors like this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
So fucking...
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The unknown unknowns, I think, is partially what you're talking about, too.
And it's just like...
I don't know.
I just...
I hope...
I hope that he lives long enough to be haunted by this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, please.
dan friesen
So Alex does finally get to taking calls.
I'm not sure if he ever gets around to Diana.
I regret to inform you that I think he takes two calls on this episode.
jordan holmes
Hilarious.
dan friesen
But one guy calls in and wants to talk about how diverse Trump rallies.
unidentified
I feel like the fake news media and fellow NPC Americans, they're expecting a specific archetype of Trump supporters to be there in D.C. But I feel like they'll be greatly shocked at the intellectual diversity that will come crashing through in D.C. on January 6th.
alex jones
Well, they are shocked.
I mean, they tried to always say the Tea Party was racist so that blacks, Hispanics and Asians wouldn't go.
That started to fail about eight years ago as people went and were totally accepted and loved.
And then now...
Under Trump, you go, and you'll have an over-representation at some of these rallies of blacks, Hispanics, and others.
And the media, that's what put them into total race-based panic mode to say Trump is Hitler, because they don't know what to do.
I mean, look, Trump got three times more black men to vote for him than any Republican ever.
That scares the living snot out of the establishment.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, of course it does.
dan friesen
So this caller brought up intellectual diversity, and Alex immediately starts talking about racial...
jordan holmes
Right.
Well, they don't actually have any intellectual diversity.
dan friesen
I don't know what he was trying to say.
I think that people have the image of Trump fans from past Trump rallies.
The ones where we saw all of them.
History is prelude, as they say.
You expect about that to show up the next one.
jordan holmes
Sometimes I really do think that the GOP thinks maybe there are ten black people total.
And then when one shows up at the rally, they're like, we got 10% of the entire...
How do you not think these things are diverse?
We got 10% of all black people here.
dan friesen
What I think is interesting is the inability for Alex to hear diversity and not immediately jump into defense mode about the clear lack of diversity at these...
These rallies from that standpoint.
Intellectual diversity, I guess, means that some people want to shoot people and some people want to...
Go the legislative route.
I guess maybe that's...
jordan holmes
A lot of diversity there.
dan friesen
Some people are Mies Institute libertarian types, and some people are outright fascists.
So, you know, you've got a lot of people on different sides.
Also, not for nothing, Trump got like 8% of the black vote in the last election, so it's definitely better to report that as like, oh, record black support, instead of just saying, hey, this party that I support has never gotten over 10%.
jordan holmes
It has so alienated an entire group of people.
dan friesen
Much like Trump's pardons, let's not consider any of the surrounding context of that.
But man, Alex has a great idea.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
If his goal is to incite violence and an insurrection among right-wing people in this country, he has an amazing idea.
alex jones
Thank God he hasn't conceded.
We need to keep exposing the fraud, keep showing the evidence.
And then no matter what happens, Trump is still our president.
And I think he should have that talking point because it's true that the power structure and the system has occupied America and put in their puppet and that Trump should then travel around the country rallying legislatures, state houses, and others.
And he should have a nightly TV program where he'll have more ratings than Fox.
Talks to the public.
dan friesen
Yeah, he should have a nightly show where he pretends to be the second president and the rightful president of the United States because there's an occupier in the house.
jordan holmes
I don't know if I want to live in a 2020 where we're reliving the Pope and the Dark Pope fighting in Italy in the 17th century.
I don't want to live where that is.
I don't get why we're still doing that.
dan friesen
It wasn't good for people.
jordan holmes
No!
It was bad!
dan friesen
But yeah, when I was listening to this, I was like, okay, it's a stupid idea.
Trump's never going to do that.
The TV show, maybe, if it profits him somehow, yes.
He's not going to go on a barnstorming tour of state legislatures in order to save the Constitution.
jordan holmes
I mean, essentially you would be describing a war.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
He's going to go from town to town recruiting for his fucking army.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, he's one of the greatest orators of our generation.
He'll go and give really measured, thoughtful speeches about the responsibilities of statements.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
I just found that this section of the show just really struck me as what I would describe as...
Terrorist edging.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's just trying to get these people right up to the point of...
jordan holmes
But that's what this is.
This whole, like, since he lost the election, it has been nothing but edging.
Like, ooh, we're gonna do it this time.
No, no, we're not gonna blow it up this time.
But next time I do it!
dan friesen
But it feels pretty, like, really pronounced on this 28th.
alex jones
We don't value ourselves, so guess what?
The new world order doesn't value us.
And God will let us have what we want.
We forsake ourselves.
God didn't forsake us.
We took all the blessings and threw them out the window because we had a game of tennis to play or golf to play or we were going to go act cool with our friends and get drunk again.
And so who cares?
Let somebody else handle it.
Okay?
Everything will be taken from you now.
Everything.
And they're going to do it in increments where you join along, you'll be taken care of, and then, oh, it gets a little harder, but you still join, and you still keep complying while you're being strangled.
All right, let's go to Mike in Arizona.
Mike, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
dan friesen
Weird sound there.
jordan holmes
There's a little burp.
A little something stuck in his throat.
dan friesen
Some reflux.
Maybe he had some nachos out at the Alamo Draft House.
jordan holmes
Hey, everybody's got to get something to eat during WW84.
dan friesen
Yeah, I just hear that stuff and it's just like, hey, you could keep, you know, getting along, going along to get along, but that's how you're going to end up in submission.
You're going to end up in shackles unless you blow something up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Kind of feels that way a little bit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it does.
dan friesen
I think that there's something to it, to where Alex is saying, like, we brought this on ourselves.
It's your own fault.
And that's to, you know, be the guilt fuel.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That you kind of need to get yourself into a position where maybe you do something stupid.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
So one of the things that I think is really weird, and I think we've talked about this a bit, is that Alex believes that masks are evil.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And wearing them is a mouth diver.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And what have you.
But he sells them.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, of course.
dan friesen
So he rationalizes that here a little bit.
alex jones
Let's do it.
I'm not talking about any particular individual.
I'm talking about the way a Pharisee brain works is very one-dimensional-like.
You say the mask are a fraud and cause bacterial pneumonia.
You say they don't protect you.
You say they're a symbol of slavery.
Then what are you doing selling masks?
Well, when we launched them, I made the decision to print it with Infowars.com so if you're on a plane or in a restaurant where it's a private place and they're making you do it and you need to go there for whatever reason.
You wear it to fight back and then use the abuse like a judo move.
They attack you.
You use their momentum to throw them through the wall.
dan friesen
No, no, we get it.
No one misunderstands that.
We understand that he's selling these masks in an attempt to encourage his audience to be oppositional, defiant to people in public, and hopefully cause a scene big enough to go viral and get some free press for InfoWars.
jordan holmes
We understand that.
The meaning is clear.
dan friesen
The thing that I think is fascinating, though, is that Alex can't grasp the critique that's coming from the other side, namely our critique.
I would say that it's strange.
That, you know, you think that this is a sign of slavery, but that somehow this sign of slavery is okay if it's a branded sign of slavery that Alex can profit off of somehow.
Whether by selling it or the free press that comes from it, or the potential new audience that gets exposed to your product by other people wearing it.
It's weird.
It's strange that a sign of slavery would somehow become acceptable if you benefit from it.
jordan holmes
Hey, it's a sign of slavery, but, you know, if we're gonna have slavery...
Might as well make a little cash on it, you know?
dan friesen
That's fucked up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's really fucked up because that's pretty much what he's saying.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Also, he can straight fuck himself.
If Alex spent even a minute looking into the history of how enslaved people were branded and mutilated to signify that they were enslaved, he'd probably feel pretty bad and maybe a little bit petty complaining about having to wear a mask to go to Kroger.
jordan holmes
You would think.
dan friesen
You fucking dick.
Yep.
But he did brave.
The slavery of public spaces or something?
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Because he needed to see Wonder Woman.
alex jones
And then I talked to everybody I saw in the movie theater.
It was amazing.
Alamo Draft House.
Horrible socialist globalists own it.
They love it.
You go in, all the lights are turned off.
It's like dystopic.
They're sitting there with a thermometer, a laser thermometer, to all get into theater.
And I said to the guy, I said, You know, the same amount of people who died this year that died last year, right?
This is all a fraud.
He goes, I know, but we're just doing it to keep you safe.
Oh, if I never existed, I'd be safe.
It's all a fraud to shut down the economy.
You won't even have your job soon, buddy.
This is a global takeover.
And the people that own Alamo are horrible leftist.
unidentified
Sir, just go see the movie.
alex jones
You can even imagine.
jordan holmes
Sir, do you want butter on your popcorn?
alex jones
The last 11 months, and it was just a disgrace.
unidentified
Sir.
alex jones
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
dan friesen
Watch it at home.
Don't...
unidentified
You sound miserable.
jordan holmes
I don't get it.
unidentified
Why would you go to this theater that's run by terrible socialist globalists as opposed to just renting it at home?
jordan holmes
How can you go give money to terrible socialist globalists?
dan friesen
It seems like it's counter to everything Alex stands for.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
dan friesen
It seems like he's probably rich enough that he has a pretty comfortable TV in his living room, I would assume, based on how many goddamn movies he talks about watching.
You'd think he's got a pretty cushy setup, maybe even an in-home theater setup.
Watch this.
Oh, wait!
Can't!
He risks brainwashing his children.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
His children may not be strong enough to resist the wiles of the subliminal messages that are in Wonder Woman 84. Wonder Woman did get an R rating for its subliminal messaging.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
18 and older without an adult.
dan friesen
The M-P-A-A-S for subliminal.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah, dumb.
This is dumb.
jordan holmes
Stay home, Alex.
I'm not going to judge him for going to a socialist, globalist theater.
I go see the Cubs game, and the Ricketts are terrible fascist nightmare people.
So, what are you going to do?
dan friesen
I think that there is an argument to be made for, like, if you have to...
You can't watch the Cubs live except by paying for a ticket to go to Wrigley or, you know, I guess you could travel to another city.
jordan holmes
You can't watch them on TV without giving money to the Cubs that own their own goddamn network.
They're evil.
dan friesen
And you could make a similar argument that renting the movie at home would still be giving money to the studios and, you know, he doesn't support them.
Whatever.
I don't care.
jordan holmes
VPN torrent.
Let's do this.
Get off the grid, buddy.
dan friesen
Still.
I don't think it's a great idea to go to a movie theater in Austin right now.
unidentified
I agree.
dan friesen
Maybe I would still judge that.
jordan holmes
I think that's wise.
dan friesen
So, anyway, Alex is cranky about this trip to the Globalist Socialist Movie Theater to see a brainwashing film.
The only way to deal with that is to have a couple of news reporter babies come in.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
These two dicks, so it's Tom Papert and Patrick Howley, and they both work at National File, and they are just like, I can't look at them and not think that they're babies dressed up like adults.
They just strike me as...
Like, I don't know.
jordan holmes
The suits don't fit too well.
They've got shoulder pads on.
dan friesen
And they have these sort of skills and presentation of, I don't know, like, debate team junior high kids.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Like, it's just outrageous.
jordan holmes
At the end of the performance, they both, like, step away from their chairs.
One of them gets on the other's shoulders, and they put their big trench coat on and walk out.
dan friesen
Yeah, and they're like...
Tom's a little bit beefy, and Patrick Howie seems like a little squirrely guy.
jordan holmes
And they're Laurel and Hardy-ing it.
Oh boy.
dan friesen
The team of them, and realizing that they work at the same place, it's just, it's comical.
I kind of want to write a sitcom about it.
I will not, though.
jordan holmes
A nice little workplace comedy about those two evil fucks?
dan friesen
I will just suffer through listening to these two horribly voiced people explain to me how Trump can seize power.
tom pappert
A sitting U.S. representative in the new Congress that will come in on January 3rd needs to have in writing a written objection.
We've got this from Mo Brooks.
That written objection then needs to be mirrored in the Senate.
If it is with Tommy Tuberville or any number of people, Rand Paul, I'm looking at you, Ted Cruz looking at you, these are all of our heroes, right?
Why haven't they agreed to do this?
That's a very good question.
jordan holmes
Take a fucking guess.
tom pappert
Then if they have a senator agree, the two chambers break off and go meet and discuss the allegations of fraud, what they should do, whether they should strike.
These electoral votes, what the proper thing to do.
And in all likelihood, Nancy Pelosi's house will say, no, Arizona's Sharpie ballot markers were fine.
That was just how elections were meant to be, according to the founding fathers.
Meanwhile, if the Republicans have a spine, which we'll see if that happens, that's the big question, they'll come back and say, no, Arizona must be thrown out.
It's then entirely up to Vice President Mike Pence.
As the presiding officer of the Joint Session of Congress, he gets to decide what to do with that information.
So Mike Pence can say, alright, I'm siding with the Senate on this one.
We're going to toss out Arizona.
He can do that.
Or Pence can do the safe thing, the expected thing, and he can say, there's no agreement.
I do not want to cast a tie-breaking vote.
Therefore, Arizona stands.
dan friesen
I think the Founding Fathers would...
Go ahead and throw out all the votes from non-whites and women.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
I don't think they would worry too much about this election at all.
Trump would have won in a landslide if the Founding Fathers had anything to say about it.
dan friesen
Their definition of white might not be what yours is.
It might be a little different.
jordan holmes
If we go by the Founding Fathers' definition of votes, maybe five million would have been cast this year?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Bad news, Italians and Irish.
You can't vote.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Yeah, so, like, with those Sharpies.
Get the fuck out of here.
jordan holmes
I will tell you this.
If they find some Byzantine way where they're like, no, no, technically, I mean, I'm sorry, but according to legal code 206.C54, Trump is going to be president for the next four years.
I'm going to start a war by myself.
By myself.
dan friesen
It'll be a war against...
unidentified
A Byzantine code rule?
jordan holmes
How dare you?
dan friesen
It's not gonna fly.
How dare you?
This is just fan service.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
So, if this happened the way that Papert is discussing here, these objections would have to be brought up in the January 6th Joint Session of Congress, and then it would require a senator and representative to have signed on.
Then, each house would meet separately and debate the matter.
So each objection, each state would have to have an objection with a senator and a representative signed on.
And then they'd each have to be debated.
jordan holmes
We call him the Right Honorable Senator from Kentucky.
Yes, do you believe in reality?
No?
Next person.
dan friesen
So each House of Congress would then vote, and they would require a simple majority for the objection to stand.
The objections would literally never pass the House, so you could just forget about that.
And it seems nearly impossible for me to imagine that it would end up in a 50-50 tie in the Senate, which would be the only time when Mike Pence's vote would matter.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Because the only instance there would be like, okay.
It's possible if both Democrats win in the Georgia runoff election.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Then the vote in the Senate goes down like strictly party lines.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Then we get to a 50-50.
But that seems super unlikely.
I find it really difficult to believe, even as craven and ghoulish as some of these GOP congresspeople are, I can't imagine Mitt Romney voting along that line.
jordan holmes
No.
Well, they just heard my threat.
dan friesen
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Hold on.
jordan holmes
Rand Paul can't even debate me.
Imagine if I started my own war against all of them.
dan friesen
I think Rand Paul would go along with it.
jordan holmes
No, I agree with that.
dan friesen
I don't think that Mitt Romney would...
There's a number of GOP senators that I don't think are secure enough in their position that they would go along with this.
I think even McConnell's a toss-up.
jordan holmes
Oh, he's too much of a craven dickwatt.
If he thought he could win, he'd win.
But he couldn't.
If he thought he would lose, he'd find some way to screw somebody else.
dan friesen
But you couldn't.
Even if you do this and you somehow get the objection to stand in the Senate, it still doesn't stand in the House.
It doesn't matter.
These statutes are really clear that in order for things like this to fly, there needs to be agreement in both houses of Congress.
When there's an alternative slate of electors offered from each state and the houses, they disagree on which to accept, quote, the statute states that the votes of the electors whose appointment was certified by the governor of the state shall be counted.
unidentified
It doesn't matter.
dan friesen
The only outcome this is going to result in is like, they're just going to draw this shit out.
Like, the process is just going to get dragged out.
They're going to stall any government operation, and they're going to further radicalize and agitate the right-wing elements who just can't accept that Trump lost.
Tom Papert's out here creating this fantasy world for them to all live in, and then when that world does not materialize, it's just gonna drive the audience deeper into the hole of resentment and insisting that the system is broken and can't be fixed.
Like, if these magical fantasy plans don't work, what hope does the actual process have?
jordan holmes
We're screwed!
dan friesen
That's all that's going on here.
It's just like, draw it out, drag it out.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the problem is...
Once you've exhausted all of your magical plans, then everybody who's believed that the magical plans could happen eventually has to go, nothing we do works.
We have to do something different.
dan friesen
And usually the thing that they think to do different is not like, let's get into actually organizing, community building.
jordan holmes
And that's because they don't ask, why are we always losing?
Because they already know the answer.
dan friesen
It can't be because the plans are magical.
jordan holmes
No, it can't be that.
It has to be because these people are so evil they won't even follow the rules that we're...
We're the good guys.
We're trying to follow the rules and they won't.
It's not that we're full of shit.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Certainly not.
So that's Tom Pappert coming in with his magical Mike Pence plan.
jordan holmes
Love it.
dan friesen
And then we get Patrick Howley also on the call.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Just like really being a shithead.
patrick howley
Well, Alex, first of all, I want to make clear, because I just got a text, you know, nobody's considering replacing Mike Pence in the short term as a strategy, but mark my words, that was looked into, that was researched.
unidentified
Absolutely no one has a free pass if they're going to go against President Donald Trump.
patrick howley
President Donald Trump is the Republican Party, President Donald Trump is this movement, and the American people are desperate to keep him in here.
dan friesen
So actually, I looked into this a little bit, and I found a mission statement for...
Patrick Howley's politics.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
There is no loyalty except loyalty to Donald Trump.
There is no love except love for Donald Trump.
There is no laughter except the laugh of triumph over Antifa.
There is no art, no literature, no science.
When we are omnipotent, we shall have no more need for science.
There will be no distinction between beauty and ugliness.
There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life.
All competing pleasures will be destroyed, but always, and do not forget this, Winston, there will always be the intoxication of power, constantly in Christmaston, You get where I'm going with this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dude, get a job that does...
Do something good.
Become a bricklayer.
Do something good with your life instead of writing that.
dan friesen
Sweat a little bit.
jordan holmes
Just do something.
dan friesen
He didn't actually write that.
I mean, it's spiritually in line with...
So, Patrick Hawley is a little bit too, like, obvious.
patrick howley
Here's what's going to happen on January 6th is great independent media like Tom and Alex Jones are going to show the world in real time all of the evidence that the courts have not been making public to the people and the Supreme Court won't even hear.
unidentified
And I know Matt Gaetz is going to fight and I know we can drag it out for hours upon hours upon hours and create a maximum pressure scenario.
And that's why what we're doing is going to really make an impact.
dan friesen
So, that was showing a few too many cards, I think.
Patrick Hawley knows that the only thing they're going to achieve is this big dum-dum publicity stunt, and they're going to extend the process by however long they can to maximize profits.
Unfortunately, according to the U.S. Code, each objection that gets made is limited to two hours of debate, with no congressperson being allowed more than five minutes to speak or question the matter.
You can do the math if you want, but according to the law, there's only so much they can drag this way.
So, good luck.
Enjoy.
Dumb.
unidentified
Jesus.
dan friesen
So, Alex wants Tom and Pat to close things out by explaining, hey, who are them globalists?
And in my note, I just have here, these people are fucking nuts.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
30 seconds or one minute each.
How would you describe in one minute, Papert the Globalist?
tom pappert
Well, what you started to say is accurate.
It's a collection of psychopaths who have figured out that they can leverage blackmail, extortion, bribery, everything you can get to keep a seat in power no matter what country is the global hegemon.
If it's the United States, that's great.
If it's China, who cares?
I think that that is the globalist.
They are power drunk, they are sick, and they have no loyalties to anything but power.
unidentified
Well, they might have loyalty to Baal, to Moloch.
That's true.
And, you know, these are baby-killing Satanists.
They are overseeing a genocide of little babies.
They're sick people.
They have a religion.
They believe that they're, you know, descended from the Nephilim bloodlines.
It's a satanic Luciferian cult.
Wow!
I just don't understand.
jordan holmes
I just don't.
unidentified
Our enemies believe that they're descended from the Nephilim.
jordan holmes
It's not.
No, they don't.
They don't.
They don't exist.
dan friesen
You just don't know about what they talk about behind closed doors.
jordan holmes
They don't exist.
Really?
Say that out loud.
dan friesen
Nephilim.
jordan holmes
Say that out loud.
Our enemies believe they're descended from the Nephilim.
Okay.
dan friesen
The biblical giants.
jordan holmes
Bye.
Bye.
Goodbye.
dan friesen
Yep.
Goodbye, Tom Papert and Patrick Howley.
You have comported yourself exactly how one would expect, which is not well.
jordan holmes
Go try and steal booze from somebody, you two toddlers wearing a goddamn...
dan friesen
Alex has a really important structural public service announcement that I think is actually really key for the InfoWarriors to take to heart.
alex jones
Brother, I absolutely agree with you, and we have to physically not support the big globalist chains.
Sometimes we still will be forced to.
We have to physically support mom and pops.
We have to understand it's a war.
dan friesen
Didn't you go see Wonder Woman at a socialist globalist movie theater on opening weekend?
jordan holmes
Look, Alamo Drafthouse isn't a huge chain.
It's not AMC or anything like that.
I think you're supporting mom and pop.
I mean, obviously, mom and pop evil globalist socialists, but, you know, there's still room for that small business globalism.
dan friesen
Opening weekend.
Movie I hate.
Great.
So, Alex goes back to calls, and this caller actually brings up what I would say is a good point.
It's a logical extension of a lot of Alex's ideas.
jordan holmes
All right.
unidentified
I'd love to see in the future your show maybe focus on, or a new show maybe focus on how we start setting up new systems and societies to get outside of the mainstream society.
alex jones
What you're saying is 100% the answer.
We should all just be focusing on communities, neighborhoods, towns, organizations, free association groups.
Where we want a pro-human future, where we want traditional values, where we honor life, where we honor children, where we honor goodness, because they've overtaken the churches and control most of those.
And so we need something that, I don't want to even use the word secular, but something that's just human and saying we reject death.
We reject the wages of the New World Order.
God bless you, and I appreciate your call.
dan friesen
Yeah, so, I mean, this caller's essentially bringing up, like, hey, why don't we talk more about setting up some communes?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Now it's like, yeah, you know what, we should.
jordan holmes
We should set up those communes, but that does sound a lot like what the dirty globalists want to do.
Shit.
We're stuck.
Our imaginary enemies have solutions that we don't like, because they're also our goddamn...
dan friesen
We have to make rural autonomous zones as opposed to autonomous zones in cities.
jordan holmes
Completely different.
dan friesen
So Joel Skousen shows up, and the conversation about this dumb elector plan that Tom Papert was pitching earlier comes up.
And I'll say, to Skousen's credit, he doesn't go in for that bullshit.
He thinks it's a dumb plan.
joel skousen
It's going to be very easy to block.
It doesn't matter how many people are in favor of the Trump electors.
All it takes is two or three to block.
And I think that's what's going to happen in the Senate.
alex jones
Is there any path to victory now for Trump?
dan friesen
Disrespectful.
jordan holmes
Eating a little bit.
dan friesen
Disrespectful.
Eating a little bit.
jordan holmes
Having a little bite.
dan friesen
So I will say that Skousen, I will tip my hat to him in terms of him saying that this plan is dumb.
Yes.
I will retract my hat.
At this point, when he starts talking about...
There was that story that was going around about John Roberts, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, yelling about how we can't take up this case.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Listen to this idiot.
Listen to this idiot Joel Skousen talk about that story.
This guy's a fucking idiot.
joel skousen
As you know, there was this supposed leak from the Supreme Court, which I'm a little bit doubtful of.
Stating that John Roberts, you know, had a yelling and screaming session threatening conservatives into not taking up the Texas case for fear of rioting in the United States if we ever, you know, allow Trump to be re-elected.
Well, the Supreme Court came out the next day and said there was no such yelling match because the Supreme Court justice haven't met in person for weeks because of COVID-19.
Everything is done by Zoom meeting.
It's very possible they did meet in person because John Roberts wouldn't have wanted to put this on Zoom, which is not a secure form of communications.
It could have been tapped and leaked to the American people what he was saying on that.
So I think there's good arguments in both cases.
But this much I do know, Alex, that John Roberts is a controlled individual by the deep state.
jordan holmes
Of course.
joel skousen
And he did, in fact, and would, in fact, always vote against Trump to make sure he's not re-elected.
dan friesen
What a fucking idiot.
jordan holmes
All right.
So, I doubt this story even happened.
dan friesen
Great start.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Great start to launch this ship.
jordan holmes
And they told me that it didn't happen because only Zoom meetings have happened for weeks.
My rebuttal to that is, what if they did?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Whoa.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a good one.
dan friesen
Skousin.
jordan holmes
What if instead of the thing that's real, they did the thing that I said?
dan friesen
Skowson, I'm gonna fucking subscribe to your newsletter, man.
You are killing it.
That level of reasoning is being brought to this.
What if?
jordan holmes
Alright, now I know the sun rose yesterday, but what if it didn't?
What would we say then?
dan friesen
I would guess that any communication between Supreme Court justices is not something that anyone would want to leak, and therefore this meeting would not be different or special from any other meeting.
If any is being done on Zoom, I would assume...
Probably a hyper-secure special Zoom.
It's not like the Zoom that you and I use.
jordan holmes
I would doubt it.
I would doubt it.
dan friesen
Very stupid.
Very stupid reasoning skills.
Very dumb analysis.
jordan holmes
I will say, as we found out when we did our bonus episode over Zoom, it's not even possible for John Roberts to scream at somebody through Zoom.
It cuts your volume off if you're anywhere near as loud as me.
dan friesen
That might have been your laptop.
jordan holmes
That could be me.
dan friesen
But it's unclear.
So anyway, we're going to end this episode here and jump to the 29th.
All right.
Who cares?
He just talks about how you need to live an hour outside of town.
jordan holmes
I want to move an hour outside of town.
dan friesen
I don't not want to, but I also don't care to hear Skousen talk about it.
So we jump to the 29th here.
This is delightful.
I find this a lot of fun.
Alex decides to kick things off by teasing a little bit.
But then he's like, I'm not going to tell you what I'm teasing about.
jordan holmes
You can't tease a tease!
dan friesen
But it's a little too obvious.
alex jones
Now, I know some incredible information.
That I am not at liberty to tell you, but I am at liberty to just give you a hint, which I don't think is too hard.
You notice Trump said January 6th will be wild in D.C.?
Well, it will be wild.
And I can tell you the Twilight Zone nature of all of this went up to a whole new level yesterday.
And I'll leave it at that.
dan friesen
Alex keeps trying to hint that Trump's going to come to the rallies.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's very simple.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I love the idea of somebody being like, look, here's some information.
You can't tell anybody, but you can hint.
jordan holmes
Hey, listen.
Don't give away the information.
Make it a puzzle.
dan friesen
This is really serious, and you gotta be on the up and up about this.
Now, I'm not gonna tell you how to hint.
I'm not gonna give you any lines that you can't cross.
jordan holmes
I'm not gonna say make it too easy or too hard.
I'm not gonna say that.
I just want you to put your own spin on it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Alright?
dan friesen
So yesterday's show, the 28th, was kind of disappointing in a lot of ways.
There wasn't a lot of content.
There was a lot of stupid shit.
jordan holmes
Anytime those two dum-dums are on the show, it's bad.
dan friesen
Tweedledee and Tweedledum.
And then there was a lot of Wonder Woman complaining, and I found it to be uninspired even by Alex standards.
But there was a problem.
jordan holmes
Did he even talk about Pedro Pascal?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Because it's amazing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's so good.
dan friesen
I'm sure he is.
He's amazing.
But look, there was a problem with the show that was...
Structural.
It was beyond what I could observe.
alex jones
Okay, let me just kind of calmly explain this.
I got prepared for yesterday's show for several days.
And then I got so upset after looking at all the news and evidence and over-preparing...
jordan holmes
Watching Wonder Woman.
alex jones
...that I was in such a nasty mood when I started the show yesterday...
jordan holmes
Because you watched Wonder Woman.
dan friesen
Yeah, man, I over-prepared.
I just couldn't get my job done because I was too prepared again.
jordan holmes
Okay, so...
dan friesen
Constantly over-prepared.
jordan holmes
Whining about Wonder Woman happened because he was too prepared.
dan friesen
Too prepared.
jordan holmes
Too prepared, okay.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
And angry.
And someone named Diana called in.
jordan holmes
Well, then you gotta.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You just gotta.
Look, I don't blame him for that.
I would have done the same in that situation.
dan friesen
And then today, he's like, I ought to make good on it.
You know, I had all this over-preparation yesterday.
Now I must pay off that over-preparation.
jordan holmes
All right, here we go.
dan friesen
So what he decides to do is show off like a baby, Mike.
jordan holmes
Whine about Wonder Woman?
alex jones
Let me show you just the COVID stacks.
One is from yesterday.
Three are from today.
So I have four stacks right here.
Four COVID stacks.
No, no.
Look at this stat.
dan friesen
Look at this one.
Look at all these stacks.
I have so much paper.
jordan holmes
I've seen...
Look, I've been in the pool hustling game for a while.
I'll tell you right now.
I've seen...
I know when somebody has some fake ones.
unidentified
All right?
jordan holmes
I know what's underneath that roll.
I know what's going on.
dan friesen
This is somebody who's like padded essay to...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Hit the word limit.
That's how it feels.
Oh, look at all this paper.
I've read all this.
jordan holmes
I know you said size 14, but what if I can get away with a size 15?
That's one less word per page.
dan friesen
It's so much a desperate attempt to trick people into thinking he's prepared at all because it visually looks like he might have.
There's so much paper out here.
I would be more impressed if he had nothing.
But it's all just a magic trick.
Anyway, Alex, apparently the story is another level of deep COVID denialism that, again, was the kind of thing that I just had to walk away from, breathe a little bit, and just be like, oh, fuck you, man.
alex jones
So again, they're like, oh, we're turning people away.
Well, that's like saying one restaurant is full, but there's 10 more next door that aren't.
That's how they statistically manipulate it.
But I'm not just going to tell you that.
We're going to show you where you can go directly into the CDC's own numbers and see what every hospital in your town or city has because the COVID cases are all reported, because they're all incentivized to call it COVID to get money, and most of these people don't even need to be in the hospital.
But Travis County is at, as of last night, 9% COVID capacity.
There are 77 people in hospitals in Austin, in Travis County, That supposedly have COVID.
We're talking millions of people, 77 in the hospital.
dan friesen
Alex is desperately trying to spin the news stories that have been coming out about how hospitals are going to have to start talking about rationing care because they can't handle the load of patients with the surge of COVID-19 cases.
Obviously, this is something that people have been warning about for a long time and everything Alex has stood for has been the exact things that people warned would cause the need to ration care and turn people away from hospitals.
The fact that we've reached the point we have should be a sign that people like Alex Jones have been a cancerous influence on the public information space.
And that his recommendations have led exactly where everyone knew they would.
So it's super important for him to act like all this is imaginary.
Or something.
The way he chooses to do it is by covering the story like a fifth grader doing a book report about a novel he's only pretending to have read.
There's a couple of details that he got from reading the back cover that he's hitting really hard in order to fake like he knows what he's talking about.
A December 28th article in the Austin Statesman reported that the ICU occupancy in Travis County rose 62% in just the previous week.
The county has a maximum ICU availability of 200 patients, and they were at 132 on Monday night.
There are 422 hospitalizations in the county linked to COVID-19 as of the time of the writing of that article.
I was trying to get a sense of what Alex would possibly be talking about because the numbers that he's using are just completely out of sync with anything I can find reported anywhere.
I looked at the Austin COVID-19 surveillance dashboard and I think I figured out where he got the 77 number from.
I think that was the number of people listed as on ventilators at the time that he looked By December 31st, that number was up to 81, but it seems like the number could have possibly be close to what he was saying at the time that he read it.
And I actually found a Statesman article from earlier this week that cited that the number of people on ventilators was 77 in Austin on Monday when this episode was recorded.
So I'm pretty sure that sounds about right.
What's outrageous about this, if this is what he's going off of, like this misinterpretation, is that right next to the ventilator number on the COVID-19 dashboard is the hospitalized figure in twice as large a font, which is much higher.
If Alex actually had looked to find these numbers, it would be literally impossible for him to miss that one and see the other one.
It kind of heavily implies that either he's just repeating something that someone told him, which is inaccurate, or he's willfully passing along inaccurate information in order to minimize the public health risk posed by COVID-19, which stands a very good chance of getting extra people killed.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, he just saw Wonder Woman, so whenever he read that, his brain was all messed up.
He thought that the smaller number was the only number that you could see.
That's what happens with Wonder Woman.
dan friesen
Is that right?
jordan holmes
Yeah, you can't see large numbers anymore.
dan friesen
Shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
It's a real bummer.
Write something bigger than 16-point font, and I cannot read it.
unidentified
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
It's brutal.
dan friesen
Also, in terms of deaths, the city of Austin put out a press release on December 30th announcing that COVID-19 was the third highest cause of death this year, behind only cancer and heart disease.
The number is at least 548 this year.
If you do a little bit of math, that's north of one a week.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Also, I know it's not...
Possible, but I wish you would just stop doing stuff like this.
Like, it's so much more fun when it's Wonder Woman, Illuminati symbols, and fake Jefferson quotes.
It sucks.
jordan holmes
It blows me away.
Like, I understand it, because I, you know, I have never been able to just light $20,000 on fire whenever I wanted to.
But it never fails to surprise me what people will be convinced is enough to, like, corrupt somebody.
Like, this whole, like, oh, they get an extra 20 grand out of a, it says COVID in an ICU, and it's like, that's nothing.
The people that you are describing as being the evil billionaires that are destroying everything would fucking put...
$20,000 under their shoes just to feel like what it's a step on money.
Like, it is nothing.
dan friesen
But there's a secondary conversation even past that, that that money that's being discussed isn't, like, some kind of a bonus.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's payment for care.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, it's Medicare payments.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, like, do you think that people who have other things don't also have payments attached to them, like a heart attack?
Do you think that maybe might be more?
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
If you go in for a cough and you have a heart attack, they still only pay for the cough.
They're not giving people bonuses just for having a heart attack in the hospital, Dan.
dan friesen
He's imagining that this number is zero for other things.
Oh, he incentivized.
It's just so stupid.
jordan holmes
It's pathetic.
dan friesen
But yes, that number is also really big to people like us.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no!
dan friesen
And comically small to people like...
jordan holmes
It's one of those things that it's hilarious to me whenever people are like, oh man, your House of Representatives make like $140,000 a year!
And it's like, yes, I know that's a lot of money to you and me, but to the oligarchs who own them, they can shit out $140,000 every five seconds.
Like, it is so little.
The real scale of corruption that we are existing in is world-level.
The country is what corruption...
Somebody could be like, okay, I will corrupt you if you own Sudan now.
That's the level of billionaire evil corruption we're dealing with.
dan friesen
I think I get what you're saying in terms of scale.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I thought that was bad.
I thought that Alex is claiming that 77 people are hospitalized with COVID-19 in Travis County, which is demonstrably not true and very, very bad.
I thought that was bad, but then this is worse, I think.
alex jones
We've got...
Kyle Rittenhouse's mother.
jordan holmes
No.
No.
alex jones
She did her first interview yesterday with Owen Schroyer.
I was up here working.
I was like, wow.
She's got a lot to say.
I haven't seen her on TV.
And they're like, no, this is, I think, her first interview.
So she'll be joining us with her lawyer about the incredible persecution of the Rittenhouses.
That's a beta test.
For the rest of us, in the third hour...
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
So, whenever that does end up happening, Alex cannot stop saying, we are all Kyle Rittenhouse.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
It's very uncomfortable.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
dan friesen
No, it's a bad interview, and we'll get to a little bit of it to end this episode.
jordan holmes
We are all murderers, however, is something that I would say that Alex is correct on.
alex jones
Spiritually.
jordan holmes
If that's what he's describing, yeah.
dan friesen
So, we gotta get back to this hospital hoax first, though, that Alex is gonna blow the lid off.
unidentified
Great.
dan friesen
Man.
This guy is an in-depth journalist.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, I'm about to lay out for you the absolute proof of total criminal fraud by the hospitals, by the media, by the CDC, because they go on the news and they say, we've got to lock down the economy.
You can't leave your house for a few months.
We're going to have 2.5 million dead in just a few months.
The hospitals are already overwhelmed.
And the people went to the very hospitals.
You saw the hundreds of videos.
dan friesen
Yeah, I remember when everybody took pictures of parking lots and pretended that no one was in the hospital.
Yeah, I remember that.
jordan holmes
You guys are all dogged industrial.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Alex rambles about nonsense for a bit.
I'm like, what are you actually talking about?
And he finally gets down to it.
And it was an article in NPR that he found.
alex jones
Federal data reveals which hospitals are dangerously full this week.
Is yours?
And then you link to the federal government CDC website from NPR that they know you're not going to link through.
jordan holmes
No, you know they're...
alex jones
Federal data shows you've got a billion dollars in your bank account, but you really don't.
Look at this.
Federal data reveals which hospitals are dangerously full this week.
Is yours?
dan friesen
So what's going on here is that Alex is upset about an article he didn't read in NPR where they had some links that I guess he's certain no one followed.
I'm certain that Alex didn't do any original research on this, nor do I believe that he went and looked at the raw data because I'm certain he would be unable to read the Excel spreadsheet.
It's...
It's a lot of rows.
He's talking about the data visualization that NPR posted, which does show that Travis County has 9% of its known inpatient beds used for COVID patients.
The problem with that stat on its own is that it's meaningless.
For instance, if Alex looked a little bit deeper into the data, he'd see that 9 out of 15 Austin hospitals are not included in the data set.
So it's a little incomplete in terms of getting the full picture.
jordan holmes
Well, that's a struggle.
dan friesen
But even beyond that, the problem isn't that all the beds are being taken up by COVID patients.
It's that with a rise in COVID patients, the hospitals will reach their capacity and have no beds left for anybody else who might need treatment.
That's why a more than surface-level analysis of this data is important.
So let's take St. David's Medical Center in Austin as an example.
They show 7% of their adult inpatient beds being taken up for COVID patients.
That seems like nothing.
A drop in the bucket at 7%.
However, if you look at the next column, you'll see that 93% of their total adult inpatient beds are occupied.
So any increases in COVID patients would be a disaster for them.
You see this in many of the included Austin hospitals.
Ascension Seton Medical Center has 13% of its beds taken by COVID patients but 90% total occupied.
Dell Seton Medical Center at UT Austin has 23% of its beds taken by COVID patients but 94% are occupied total.
For North Austin Medical Center, 10% are COVID patients, but 94% total are occupied.
This is the pattern that is the important piece.
Yeah, the concern is definitely partially that there are a lot of COVID patients that need to be treated.
But the larger picture has to take into account that hospitals have a certain capacity.
And even beyond that, they only have a certain amount of human attention that can be provided to patients.
You can't magically create doctors and nurses in a 3D printer.
So even if you add a ton of beds or put patients who should be in the ICU and non-ICU, This is the sort of context that Alex deprives his audience of because he thinks that he has a slam dunk with the optics of this 9% statistic.
He can yell that 9% all he wants, but it doesn't change the reality that it's far more complex than surface-level faked book reports.
I feel like I might be saying this a lot, but this shit's disgraceful.
It's infantile bullshit.
jordan holmes
This elevator has 100 people on it, and there's only an increase in 9% of COVID patients adding to the elevator.
I mean, sure, the maximum capacity is 50, and the elevator's going to fall.
And everyone's going to die.
dan friesen
Well, it's only nine.
jordan holmes
But you can fit an extra 9% in there.
dan friesen
It's interesting when you either willfully or are unable to understand the complexities of things, and then you gloat about it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
So there you go, ladies and gentlemen.
St. David's is at 7% capacity.
Uh-oh, St. David's South Austin Medical Center is at 20% capacity.
Uh-oh.
Ascension, Seton.
Oh no, this one.
They're at 13%.
Oh no, we're all dead.
You average together 9% capacity.
dan friesen
Again, those are the hospitals that we just discussed.
He's not taking into account the larger picture, and he's gloating about missing the point, which is kind of like exactly what Alex does.
I mean, it's perfect.
I'm going to cut out this next clip because it's pointless, but I just thought it was pretty funny that Alex claims that he fact-checked Johns Hopkins.
jordan holmes
All right.
All right, Alex.
dan friesen
I just thought that was really funny.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
Alex sitting there with bifocals, and I'm like, what?
Hold on.
jordan holmes
Using my CPA, I've gone through and taken care of Johns Hopkins' numbers.
dan friesen
I just thought that was really funny, just the mental image of it.
But it pales in comparison to how excited I got when I heard this clip.
alex jones
So there's facts.
Now, I haven't hit the latest.
The actual UN document where they admit it's all a hoax and for power and control, bigger than the Great Reset.
It was first in a Canadian document.
They tried to say, well, we're not sure what's real, but we were able to search the document and find other documents from other countries that confirm it is real.
jordan holmes
Ha ha ha!
alex jones
We have you now.
We'll be back.
Hour number two, straight ahead.
unidentified
This is the Infowar.
dan friesen
God damn, he's so excited.
I am pumped.
jordan holmes
We have you now.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You better...
dan friesen
He got him.
jordan holmes
You better fucking follow through on we have you now.
dan friesen
Dude, he got him.
jordan holmes
If you have them now, you better now have them.
dan friesen
You know me pretty well.
You know that's something that gets me excited when Alex drops something like that on my lap.
jordan holmes
We have them now.
dan friesen
It's a document.
jordan holmes
We have them now.
Not later.
We're not going to get them soon.
Now is when we have them.
dan friesen
Yeah, but we'll get back to that.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
Because Alex...
jordan holmes
See, but we have them now.
We should be getting to it now.
You can't get back to something that we have now.
dan friesen
There's more important things going on.
jordan holmes
We have them!
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
There's Epstein.
Remember him?
jordan holmes
I should have known.
dan friesen
He had a cellmate.
jordan holmes
I should have guessed.
dan friesen
And that cellmate just died of COVID.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
And now this is a conspiracy.
jordan holmes
Now it's a conspiracy.
alex jones
Epstein liked to read a lot and he kept to himself.
He wasn't a problem starter or too loud.
My uncle said he was a good cellmate.
His niece said.
The Daily News reports that Reyes was...
Transferred to a private prison the day before Epstein hanged himself in August 2019, and it was there that he contracted the coronavirus.
Oh!
So he was found dead in his apartment, and they're telling you it was coronavirus.
Let me tell you who else died of COVID-19.
Please pull up the Sir Bruder Film, please.
That's right.
Little did you know...
Well done.
But the coronavirus COVID-19 got in a time machine and went back to Dallas.
dan friesen
Killing it.
jordan holmes
Killing it.
dan friesen
I think he thought of that bit before he realized that the cellmate wasn't there when Epstein died.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I think he found that out on air.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
I can sense a really strong, like, oh, damn it.
Oh, shit.
I thought this was the person I was going to pin the murder on.
jordan holmes
It's really going to be great.
It's really going to be great.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Alex hasn't got the memo from Trump's lawyer tweeting about Epstein being still alive, too.
What's going on here?
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Anyway, I'm going to cut out this whole part, too.
I have no patience for it right now, and it's not important.
I can just tell you what happened.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Ivan Reikland, the guy who hung out with Michael Flynn Jr. at the CPAC meeting, and apparently was working with some kind of a search engine startup.
jordan holmes
Hey, they're great.
dan friesen
very confusing stuff.
He is on and his argument for Alex is that Trump needs to immediately take over the emergency Okay, that'll do it.
jordan holmes
Then we'll all understand.
dan friesen
And he needs to start, I guess, like broadcasting to people and explaining like the election was stolen over their phones or something.
Yeah.
unidentified
It's unclear the specifics of what they want Trump to do, but it involves taking over technology in a way that's like...
dan friesen
Usually just for tornadoes.
jordan holmes
You know, judging by the number of times it came up in cartoons when I was growing up, I assumed you would be able to solve most anti-reality problems with a frying pan to the side of the head.
You know?
Like, if this happens, if somebody says something like that...
dan friesen
It'll get you back into reality.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you hit him with a frying pan and all of a sudden he's like, woo, good thing I don't think that shit anymore.
unidentified
Sorry about that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, my bad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know if I can endorse a frying pan, but I would like...
jordan holmes
Only if it brings people back into reality.
dan friesen
Well, I got...
jordan holmes
A magical frying pan.
dan friesen
I need to ask you this, though.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
I got the sense that this had something to do with Wonder Woman.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Does it?
jordan holmes
No.
The lasso of truth?
dan friesen
No, the plot of the movie.
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
Like, the electronic alert system idea?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I guess that might be the case.
dan friesen
There was something...
jordan holmes
I can see that.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Like I said, I haven't seen the movie.
It felt like Alex was hinting at having some connection to Wonder Woman.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
There was a presidential, like, we can control and broadcast into every home using this new technology.
dan friesen
Bingo.
That's it.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Okay.
Yep, it is.
unidentified
There you go.
dan friesen
It's from the movie.
jordan holmes
Honestly, I forgot about that part because I don't remember too much of them.
dan friesen
Anyway, Ivan Reikland wants Alex to...
Get Trump to use that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
The super secret magical broadcast into everybody's home.
dan friesen
Yes, to save America.
jordan holmes
We got to stop letting these people watch movies.
dan friesen
Yeah, it would be good.
jordan holmes
All they get to read is Heart of Darkness.
unidentified
That's it.
dan friesen
You can't come back to the Alamo Draft House.
jordan holmes
You have to wake up every morning to Colonel Kurtz, he dead.
That's what you got to do.
Mr. Kurtz, sorry.
dan friesen
We'll jump ahead to this to Rittenhouse's mom.
Sure.
Because we've heard Ivan Reiklund before, and basically his interview is no more interesting than Trump should use the emergency alert system to fuck with people.
jordan holmes
That'd be great.
dan friesen
It wouldn't.
It would be dark.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
What if War of the Worlds was the president and also real?
dan friesen
God, it'd be awful.
jordan holmes
That'd be a nightmare.
dan friesen
So I feel okay skipping that because I find myself uninspired by it at the moment.
I'm uninspired by Kyle Rittenhouse's mom as well, but it seems like something that bears discussion.
Alex is really trying to turn Kyle Rittenhouse into a folk hero.
alex jones
We've watched the last burn down apartment buildings and police stations and shoot innocent people in the head on the side of the road.
And we've watched the media tell us that it's mostly peaceful demonstrations.
And then we saw Kyle Rittenhouse murder people who become a symbol of good people defending themselves.
jordan holmes
A murderer.
alex jones
Out there trying to be a medic, trying to help people.
jordan holmes
Murdering people.
alex jones
In Kenosha, Wisconsin.
jordan holmes
He's a murderer.
alex jones
Being chased down by thugs with guns.
jordan holmes
Oh, he's a white supremacist murderer.
I forgot about that.
alex jones
And defending himself.
unidentified
Murdered?
alex jones
And not having the book thrown at him.
jordan holmes
Because he's a murderer.
dan friesen
I couldn't tell if this interview was prompted by...
The state tacking on a breaking curfew charge.
Which I even thought was a little like, that's suspicious.
jordan holmes
That's a little petty.
dan friesen
There's gotta be a reason, but I can't figure out what it is.
jordan holmes
So they can treat him very nicely and then throw the book at him on that breaking curfew charge.
dan friesen
I'm not entirely sure, but I was listening to this and I'm like, I'm gonna get mad.
I don't like this.
But then I realized, I'm not gonna get mad.
I'm gonna feel really sad for these people.
I mean...
Look, no I don't.
But at the same time, I feel gross.
Maybe that's what I feel.
I'm not sure.
I need to talk to my therapist to figure out exactly what I feel about this.
unidentified
We need more help, Alex.
We need everyone to go to FreeKaiUSA.com.
Kai was subjected to an outrageous, excessive, unconstitutional $2 million cash bail amount.
We raised those $10 million.
We put the cash on the barrel head.
We got him free.
We set him free.
He's with his family.
But we need a lot more resources.
This is going to be a long, hard, Every American, every Democrat, Republican, Independent should care about this because they're coming after Kyle Rittenhouse now, and they're going to come after you next.
alex jones
Let's be clear about that.
They pick people like Rittenhouse, like Stone, like Jones, like Trump, because I've experienced it.
I'm not being a victim here, which is true.
And then we become like a standard, like the flag that they want to get.
And then they throw everything they've got at you, the harassment, the lawsuits, the lies.
dan friesen
I mean, like, nothing would be happening to Alex if he didn't commit, like, Violations against people.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Like, if he didn't defame people, then he wouldn't be getting sued for those things.
If Kyle Rittenhouse hadn't shot people, or even, you know, been at this protest with a gun that he shouldn't legally have had, like, there's a number of issues that, you know, like, it's not like globalists want to just turn people into symbols or whatever.
There's actions that precede those.
Lawsuits or arrests that generally are what caused them.
jordan holmes
These fuckers cheer when a black person gets 10 years for weed.
Fuck them.
Any sympathy that I had where I was like, you know what?
It was her son who did it.
She's not directly involved with that.
I'm not going to blame the mother.
Maybe parenting is an issue.
I don't know.
I don't know them personally.
dan friesen
She went on Infowars.
jordan holmes
Now that is all fucking gone.
Go fuck yourself.
You're a murderer too.
I don't give a shit.
dan friesen
But also, this entire appearance is really just about raising money.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's disgusting.
dan friesen
They're constantly going back to the well of like, we need more money.
But Alex wants some content.
He doesn't want her just, like, putting out this message.
jordan holmes
You get money for content.
You understand the job here.
dan friesen
Tell me how bad the left is.
alex jones
Has this been a new experience for you to really find out what the left's really like?
jordan holmes
They don't like to be murdered.
unidentified
I mean, the left is disgusting.
Unreal.
And you have to be a criminal for them to put you on a pedestal.
My son...
jordan holmes
No, your son's a murderer.
unidentified
He's a caring young man.
jordan holmes
No, he's not.
unidentified
And they utilized him.
Then he's a monster, a killer, a murderer.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he is.
unidentified
You know, it's just a pawn.
I'm just so disgusted with it.
You know, they need to be stopped.
dan friesen
The internal logic here doesn't work.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Because if the left has turned her son into a criminal and a murderer, then they should be putting him on a pedestal based on her saying that they take criminals and put them on pedestals.
Doesn't make sense.
jordan holmes
No.
No.
And we, the left, needs to be stopped.
Otherwise, Kyle Rittenhouse will continue murdering us.
dan friesen
Hey, look, I just...
jordan holmes
Fuck them.
That's...
Fuck you!
dan friesen
I agree.
jordan holmes
If you want to say that to me, cool, I will let you finish your statement, and then I will say, go fuck yourself.
dan friesen
What if somebody wants to say this?
unidentified
New website and everything like that.
We're selling merchandise for t-shirts, the mods.
I know, I'm going to say it, bikinis.
Yes.
And a lot of people are disgusted by it.
But, you know what?
I don't care.
dan friesen
Yeah, I got that vibe.
I got that vibe pretty strong.
jordan holmes
I'm interested to read Kyle's book, If I Did It, Here's How I Would Have Done It.
Does he get to keep the profits from all of those sales?
dan friesen
I mean, let's imagine a best-case scenario for the rest of his life.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, just after that night.
This is not part of it.
Your mom selling Kyle Rittenhouse bikinis?
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Like, just even...
Like, take that night in Kenosha out of the equation.
Imagine your mom selling a bikini with your face on it.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
That would be years of therapy.
jordan holmes
That'd be great.
That'd be really great.
That'd be real great.
dan friesen
It seems gross.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
Not because it's a bikini.
I mean, it's just like...
It's just crass.
It's exploitative.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's like in Peaky Blinders.
Whenever the one kid goes to jail and his mom winds up sleeping with the corrupt, evil Northern Irish police chief to get him out, and he's like, Mom, what did you do?
What did you do?
That's infinitely better than if you find out your mom sold your face on a bikini.
dan friesen
I refuse to believe that Peaky Blinders exists.
I think it's just a funny name.
jordan holmes
Fantastic.
It's a great show.
Killian Murphy is the best.
dan friesen
I got this vibe off his mom that really worried me.
You know, like laughing about selling bikinis and then getting a little defensive about it.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, alright.
Alright, Ma.
And then the lawyer comes in and says this, and I got even worse vibes off this dude.
unidentified
There has been a long march through the institutions over the past few decades.
It's very similar to the...
The Maoist Revolution in China and the Chinese Communist Party, their tactics are very clear.
They attempt to destroy everything sacred in a society.
They tear down statues.
They try to destroy history.
They try to destroy our faith in God.
And they try to capture the key cultural elite institutions, such as the media, such as academia, such as the financial institutions, and today, such as big tech.
And they've been pretty successful on that front.
But I'll tell you, Americans are waking up now, and we're going to fight back, and it's not going to be pretty for those who are attempting to take our freedom.
alex jones
Well, all I can say is amen to that.
We've got one more segment with you guys coming up.
dan friesen
I don't like the idea that this guy thinks there's a decades-long communist plot.
He might not be the best representation.
Also, I would guess that, like, I would say, are you a lawyer that this is such as?
jordan holmes
This is like when you're 17 and they're like, when you go to college, you need to get a good humanities education and then you can kind of start getting into your specialty.
And you're all like, nah, I don't need, what is all this humanities bullshit?
My major is pre-law or whatever.
And it's like, this is why you need a humanities education.
This is why you need to read anything other than law.
dan friesen
I have to make a confession.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
I didn't actually watch this video, so I can't confirm if this guy is like...
Not a robot.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
It's entirely possible he is just animated on screen.
jordan holmes
It's WALL-E.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's an AI lawyer.
jordan holmes
It's one of those machines.
dan friesen
Such as big tech, such as media, such as banks.
jordan holmes
Like when an AI writes a screenplay.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
An AI writes a right-wing screed.
It's the same thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So Alex is like, hey, I got a great idea.
jordan holmes
You should work with Barnes.
dan friesen
Yeah, he breathes really heavy.
You're a robot.
Yep, yep.
No, his idea is like, I don't like these pardons that Trump was throwing around.
jordan holmes
Yes, they're evil.
dan friesen
But maybe pardon could be used for Kyle Rittenhouse.
jordan holmes
Oh boy, that would be...
dan friesen
This kind of reveals that Alex doesn't understand how pardons work.
alex jones
Can the president...
Pardon Rittenhouse before he's convicted.
And obviously he didn't do anything wrong.
The law's on his side.
It's going to be a big fight.
They're being political.
They're not dropping it.
But just hypothetically, could President Trump preemptively pardon Kyle Rittenhouse?
unidentified
So, Alex, the president's pardon authorities under the Constitution only offend to charges under federal law.
These are charges under state law in Wisconsin.
So we are going to need to take this fight.
You know, to the front lines in Wisconsin.
Yep.
Yep.
dan friesen
So, no.
jordan holmes
Also, any political system where you think it's a good idea to be able to write get-out-of-jail-free cards, like one-free-murder cards preemptively, that's a bad system.
dan friesen
Yeah, no shit.
jordan holmes
You should not support that system.
dan friesen
Even imagining that system is not good.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
No.
So anyway, fuck all these people.
I'm not going to listen to any more of their interview.
It's not really that interesting.
It's just kind of like Alex begging for Kyle to come on once he can talk.
Once he can speak publicly like, I gotta get this guy a job.
Might as well be what he's saying.
Anyway, Alex has a little bit of time left to kill here at the end of the show.
No more Wonder Woman thoughts.
Although he does get to talking about Bill Gates.
It turns out Bill Gates.
Demon.
Yeah.
Superdemon.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Genetic superdemon.
jordan holmes
I did not know that.
alex jones
Now, when you look at Bill Gates, that is a literal superdemon.
A literal superkilling machine.
jordan holmes
So is he back in the 12s?
alex jones
He has the celebrations on TV, which with a psycho is what they love to do.
So many psychos send letters to the police, you'll never catch me, you'll never get me, or they'll even drag about it.
In Hollywood, they tell you what they're going to do to you before they do it.
They just hate everyone, and it's like a kid pulling the legs off a frog or something, except they do it to people en masse.
And of course, a lot of times it's genetic.
His dad was clearly a genetic psychotic.
dan friesen
Oh boy.
alex jones
Mark Zuckerberg is a genetic psychopath.
dan friesen
Oh boy.
alex jones
And boy, when I call him a genetic psychopath, because he obviously knows, you can look at him and see he's got the chromosome disorder.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
There's several of them, but he's definitely got the disorder.
He got so pissed.
He said, the last straw was Jones calling me a genetic psychopath.
jordan holmes
That was his last straw.
alex jones
You know the protege, the aide-de-camp, the apprentice of Bill Gates's, right?
You know it's Mark Zuckerberg.
They're on record.
They vacationed together.
They both wear pink sweaters.
dan friesen
They both wear pink sweaters.
What more do you need to know?
jordan holmes
I hate everyone.
dan friesen
It's so obvious.
jordan holmes
I hate this so much.
I hate you so much.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
I really don't like the idea that Alex has decided that there's a psychopath gene that's inheritable among generations and that he can see visually.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I really don't like that.
jordan holmes
You know what's great to hear in 2020?
Phrenology.
That's what you want to hear.
dan friesen
Yeah, what's really great is...
Wow.
Magic.
jordan holmes
A lot of people who believe really heavily that things should be talked about in almost exclusively genetic terms are cool folks.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're super cool.
dan friesen
Yeah, typically chill as hell.
jordan holmes
Love them.
dan friesen
So we have one last clip here, and I hate to disappoint, but this is actually a perfect last clip for Alex.
alex jones
Paul Watson has a lot to cover.
I only...
Scratch the surface here of the big enchilada today.
I didn't get to it.
And I can't really do justice to this.
jordan holmes
We have them now!
alex jones
So what I'm going to do is I'm going to shoot a special report right after I'm not live.
jordan holmes
We have them now!
alex jones
I'm going to take a five minute break.
jordan holmes
Now!
alex jones
And have a nice glass of water.
And then I'm going to go and I'm going to shoot a whole report on this latest development.
jordan holmes
Great.
alex jones
Where you saw a few months ago they got the Canadian document about the next lockdown's coming and then there'll be the strain too and then we'll never unlock things until the communist takeover happens.
People said, is this real?
Yes.
dan friesen
Look, Alex didn't have time to cover this.
I don't have time for it either.
We'll see what happens in the next episode.
jordan holmes
I fucking hate you.
I hate this so much.
We've got you now.
Aha.
unidentified
Now is when we've got you.
jordan holmes
And right now I'm going to take care of you.
After we get to a couple of different things.
dan friesen
Listen.
unidentified
Look, I've got to talk to Ivan Reinhardt.
dan friesen
That's how we're going to do it.
jordan holmes
You've got to get the message to the people.
The problem with America, Dan, is not enough people have heard Trump speak.
That's the real issue that I think we've all had.
dan friesen
He's just not getting his fair day in court.
jordan holmes
He's not getting his word out.
dan friesen
Well, because the courts keep reading the petitions and being like, oh no, this is comically stupid.
jordan holmes
Yeah, reading is one of their big hang-ups when it comes to writing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So I think we have a pretty good start to the end of the year for Alex here.
Wonder Woman sucks.
Yep.
Some harder COVID denialism, particularly around the 77 people, that glaring misunderstanding of the data and the weaponization of it.
I feel unglued listening to this.
I want to know.
There's no continuity.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
It's just all over the place.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's everywhere.
Anyways.
dan friesen
What happened to the, like, there's no follow-up on the Nashville?
jordan holmes
Look, we have it.
We have them now.
You don't need to worry about it.
What you need to worry about, Dan, is which of the Hollywood Chris's are you a fan of?
Because listen.
I hate Chris Pine.
I'm gonna say it right now.
I watched Wonder Woman.
I hate Chris Pine.
dan friesen
What about Evans?
jordan holmes
What about Evans?
Captain America?
I can't support that.
All cops are bad.
Alright, what next?
dan friesen
Chris Hardwick.
jordan holmes
Chris Hardwick?
Oh no, definitely a big no on that one.
Gonna go with a big pass.
Rooney on that.
dan friesen
What was the name I was trying to pull out?
The guy from Parks and Rec.
jordan holmes
Chris...
Oh.
Oh, now I can't remember.
Wait, no, the character's name was Chris.
dan friesen
Is that right?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
I think that was Rob Lowe?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Is that who you're talking about?
dan friesen
I'm thinking of the guys in Jurassic Park.
jordan holmes
Yes, yeah, yeah.
Oh, he sucks, too.
dan friesen
Chris Pratt.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Chris Pratt.
He's a lunatic.
He sucks.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Which is the other one?
Chris Hemsworth.
Who's Chris Hemsworth?
dan friesen
Thor?
Or Thor's brother?
jordan holmes
Love Thor.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Love Thor.
That's my favorite Chris.
Done.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
What about you?
dan friesen
I don't know, man.
Maybe all Chris's suck.
Except for our conspiracy of Chris's.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
The wonderful Chris's that are in the Wonk Nation.
That's what I choose.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
You're stars to me.
unidentified
I love it.
dan friesen
So we'll be back on our next episode on Monday to check in and see how Alex closes out the disastrous year that was 2020.
jordan holmes
Gotta get rid of it.
dan friesen
And then...
You know, we'll be into smoother sailing.
Or not.
Probably not.
jordan holmes
We'll see.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
We'll see.
dan friesen
But Happy New Year to you and yours.
unidentified
Same.
dan friesen
If you celebrate the Gregorians.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
If you're Gregorianers, then yeah.
Happy New Year to you.
dan friesen
And we'll be back.
But until then, Jordan, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledgefight and at gotobetjordan.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are...
If you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out those doing God's work.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX, Clark, I'm Daryl Rundis.
I live on the edge, man.
I live 45 minutes from town.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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