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Sept. 21, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#484: September 18-19, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan check in to see how Alex Jones and Infowars covered the news of the passing of Supreme Court justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg.  

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a
alex jones
10:09
d
dan friesen
40:19
j
jordan holmes
21:43
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h
harrison smith
03:40
r
robert barnes
01:30
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donald j trump
00:02
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alex jones
It's time to pray.
donald j trump
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
unidentified
Thanks for holding me.
I'm a huge fan.
dan friesen
I love your room.
unidentified
KnowledgeFight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to KnowledgeFight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Dan!
Jordan!
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
Okay.
Tone changed quick there.
My bright spot today is I have decided to get into indoor apartment composting.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
And so I have ordered a bag of worms.
jordan holmes
I'm really just leaning in.
I'm leaning in.
You are.
I told you a few days ago, I think it was.
I was like, you're just turning into the weird dad where you're like, I'm going to be in the garage for the next eight hours.
Nobody bother me.
dan friesen
Turning my space into that metaphorical garage.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So now the bits of lettuce that I don't use can be eaten by these worms.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Very excited about it.
jordan holmes
I like it.
That's good stuff.
dan friesen
Yeah, they've not arrived yet.
jordan holmes
Waste not, want not.
dan friesen
There was that song that Alex plays, or he used to play whenever he was trying to attack Joe Rogan, when he was calling him a sneaky snake.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's that song, Snake Farm, and I just keep singing in my head, Worm Farm.
I just can't stop doing it.
Worm farm.
jordan holmes
You are susceptible only to certain songs and purchases.
If there was an ad company that was specifically targeted towards you, they could find a way to hack you completely.
dan friesen
Worm farm.
jordan holmes
Snake farm got you to buy worms.
dan friesen
No, I mean, it's not a one-to-one thing.
Anyway, what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
Dan, yesterday my partner and I went out for a very long walk along the lakeside.
Did you know that we have a lake in Chicago?
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
Yeah, no.
Every time we travel, we're like, let's go walk along the beach.
It's amazing.
Let's go see the connection between the earth and the ocean.
And we're like, we'd never go see the fucking lake.
We walked along the beach.
It's beautiful.
There's a little bird sanctuary.
dan friesen
I was wondering why the old neighborhood I lived in was called Lake View.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right?
dan friesen
You can view the lake.
jordan holmes
You can view it.
Huh.
It's not far away.
dan friesen
Weird.
jordan holmes
We never do...
We go other places and do all the shit that if we just decided to do in Chicago, we could do.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, it's ridiculous.
dan friesen
But Lake Michigan is pretty gross.
jordan holmes
It is pretty gross.
dan friesen
It's a dirty lake.
jordan holmes
It's really pretty, though.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And especially where we are, we're right at the edge there where you can see the city skyline while still having the bend in the lake around you.
So it looks like...
The city is almost an island, a peninsula there, and it's very gorgeous.
dan friesen
It is, as long as you don't look too close.
jordan holmes
Don't look too close!
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
It was really windy, that was the trick.
Yeah.
The waves looked beautiful, you couldn't see inside the water.
dan friesen
I'm complaining about the dirtiness of the lake, and I'm also gonna have a colony of worms.
I contain multitudes.
jordan holmes
Yes, you are.
You are a very complex person.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to break down.
We're going to be talking about the 18th and 19th of September 2020.
I'm Dan, this is 2020.
jordan holmes
Oh, goddammit.
dan friesen
So, of course, on the evening of the 18th, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Supreme Court Justice, passed away.
Who's that?
It's caused a lot of...
jordan holmes
Consternation would be the word I would choose.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
I'm having difficulty processing everything, but maybe in a slightly different way than a lot of other folks.
Or maybe fairly similar to other folks.
I'm not entirely sure.
I'm worried about what comes next.
I'm worried about political actors' behavior.
I'm worried about the GOP.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it doesn't feel good.
jordan holmes
No.
No, it doesn't.
No, it doesn't.
It's fun, though, for me, just because now everybody's where I am all the time.
Everybody's very emotional, furious, confused, unhappy, willing to yell at the drop of a hat.
You're all in my world now.
Welcome to the fucking Thunderdome.
dan friesen
If anything, it really should give people greater appreciation of what you live with.
How difficult it is to be you.
jordan holmes
Again, this is all about me.
I don't know if you've noticed this.
I'm pretty sure this is a simulation.
dan friesen
Certainly the passing of a Supreme Court justice is about you.
jordan holmes
What else am I going to do?
I laughed maniacally the moment it happened because...
Of course that would happen then.
And then I cried, because why wouldn't you cry?
And now I'm just vacillating back and forth between the two.
It's great.
dan friesen
That doesn't sound great, but it sounds human.
So what we've got is the 19th was Saturday, and Alex had a special Saturday show, breaking down the news and what have you.
Bunch of nonsense.
Real murderer's row of terrible guests.
But, also, Alex is...
jordan holmes
Who should be on the Supreme Court?
Melania Trump, Dan!
dan friesen
Steve Pachanek does not show up.
He probably was unavailable on short-term notice.
But, we got Norm Pattis.
unidentified
No!
dan friesen
Former Alex Jones lawyer, Norm Pattis.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
Former Alex Jones lawyer, Robert Barnes.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
Just, it's...
Well, because he's, you know...
jordan holmes
We need the best legal minds of our generation.
dan friesen
He always introduces them as constitutional lawyers.
It's a natural fit for his show, but it is silly.
So, what we also have is the 18th.
Now, when Alex did his show during the day on the 18th on Friday...
There was no news.
This hadn't happened yet.
And so, that's irrelevant.
We're gonna ignore it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why would we?
dan friesen
However, Alex has started doing this thing called, like, Election Countdown, or whatever, and it's a nightly show that's hosted by, like, Deanna Lorraine and Harrison Smith and I think Owen Schroyer, and then Alex will drop in sometimes.
And so, because the major breaking news, Alex had to come in for election countdown, so we've got that.
We've got Alex's time with Harrison Smith on the night of the 18th, and then Alex's show on the 19th.
And I would say that there's only one word that can describe this episode.
alex jones
This is going to be egg-splosive.
jordan holmes
Egg-splosive!
All right.
dan friesen
Okay.
alex jones
It's explosive.
jordan holmes
So he's got a show with Deanna Lorraine and Harrison Smith.
Okay, torture is a war crime, Dan.
dan friesen
It's true.
Deanna might be on that episode, but I turned it off once Alex left.
jordan holmes
Good call.
dan friesen
Because I don't care what Harrison Smith says.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
Look, I make my career listening to this horrible shit, and I have standards.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Torture is a war crime, Dan.
dan friesen
I guess we should get down to business, but before we do, let's take a little moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
jordan holmes
That's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Ryan, thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Ryan!
alex jones
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Kyle B. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Kyle.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Jordan is a shitty flower.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much, Jordan, as your shitty flower.
dan friesen
That's a reference to Turd Blossom.
jordan holmes
Ah!
dan friesen
Next, Aaron R. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Aaron!
dan friesen
Next, 1xInfoWarrior.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, 1xInfoWarrior, and congratulations.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Next, Ewan C. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Ewan!
dan friesen
Next, Chris B. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Chris!
unidentified
Thank you!
dan friesen
And finally, thank you so much, Ed G. Thank you so much.
Ooh.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Ed!
dan friesen
Thank you, Eddie.
If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoyed the show, I'd like to support what these gents do, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking that little button that says support the show, we would appreciate it.
jordan holmes
It would be very lovely.
Or, what you could do is you could find your way next to a large body of water with your...
You're just not supportive, Dan.
dan friesen
Not of this.
jordan holmes
You're just the first thing I say and you just go, ugh.
dan friesen
You know what?
How about this, Dan?
jordan holmes
How about find a local bail fund or charity in your area and donate some goddamn money to it?
How does that feel?
dan friesen
That works.
jordan holmes
How does that feel, Dan?
dan friesen
I can support that.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
I will take your criticism and it's totally fair.
I am not supportive of how you do that bit.
You are not supportive at all.
That bit is trash.
jordan holmes
You started the bit in the...
And then you just hand it off to me.
Because I wasn't good at it.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
You do have standards.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So I have two out of context drops from today's show to supplement the explosiveness.
Okay.
The first is Alex discussing...
alex jones
Listeners and viewers, you don't need me to tell you that the left loves the Supreme Court.
unidentified
Ooh, the left loves the Supreme Court.
dan friesen
I don't need to tell you that.
jordan holmes
You know that institution that gave us such hits as a stolen election and Citizens United, i.e.
the rest of the elections being stolen?
dan friesen
It implies on some level that the right doesn't love this.
jordan holmes
No, apparently they don't.
dan friesen
But Alex does have some positive things to say about somebody else.
alex jones
Hitler was very accomplished.
dan friesen
Oh boy.
Total stud.
Complete badass.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
Very accomplished.
jordan holmes
Very accomplished.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I just think you shouldn't compliment Hitler that much.
dan friesen
I understand the point that he's trying to make.
Sure!
He did do a lot of things.
He's accomplished.
jordan holmes
He's accomplished.
dan friesen
That's something an edgy high schooler might say.
Not a serious political analyst.
You would hope not.
It's not really a point that needs to be made.
jordan holmes
No.
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
No one's sitting around and complaining about Hitler.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
Hold on.
Hold on.
Everybody, let's stop for a second.
Look, I know.
I know.
But consider how much he achieved in his life, Dan.
dan friesen
It seems trite, pointless.
So we start here on the 18th, the evening of the 18th.
Harrison Smith opens the show with breaking news.
harrison smith
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the InfoWars 2020 election countdown coverage.
My name's Harrison Smith.
And breaking news, we have for you news that just came out minutes ago.
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died.
Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has passed away at the age of 87. This is just breaking minutes ago.
NPR says Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the demure firebrand who in her 80s became a legal, cultural, and feminist icon died Friday.
The Supreme Court announced her death, saying the cause was complications from metastatic cancer.
dan friesen
Why are you citing NPR?
Don't you hate NPR?
jordan holmes
Nah, they're the ones with the great quotes, though.
dan friesen
Isn't that intrinsically weird?
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
We read NPR, of course, to make sure that we monitor them.
And when they've got a good headline, they've got a good lead, man.
There's just nothing you can do.
dan friesen
You're supposed to believe that they're the enemy of the people.
jordan holmes
Yes, all people.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And their blurb about Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg was too good to pass up, Dan.
It's weird.
Look, just because you literally work for the Christian devil doesn't mean you can't write a good lead!
dan friesen
Seems strange.
So Harrison has some standards that he'd like to express about how this story is going to be covered.
harrison smith
And folks, if you think back to the last time a Supreme Court justice died, it was Anton Scalia.
And you remember the joy.
With which the leftists and liberals celebrated that death.
We're not so low as them.
We don't celebrate this death or any death.
dan friesen
Here's where I would like to play a supercut of Alex screaming about how she's a witch and burning in hell.
jordan holmes
I, man, man.
dan friesen
But I did not end up creating it.
But you will get to hear Alex.
Behave quite counter.
jordan holmes
Throw hands.
If you say that to me, if Harrison Smith says that to my face, I'm throwing hands.
That's just what's happening.
dan friesen
We're above this.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
I'm hitting you.
I'm not above hitting you for saying something like that.
dan friesen
We are above that kind of undignified behavior.
jordan holmes
Did you know that violence is sometimes justified when somebody like him says some bullshit like that?
dan friesen
Well, and it's immediately followed up with this.
harrison smith
We don't celebrate this death or any death.
We do, however, recognize that this is a massive opportunity for Trump.
dan friesen
I mean, what's your point?
jordan holmes
I really just...
The currency of the far right is the, we would never do this, but...
Here's us doing it.
That's what they do.
That's their currency.
dan friesen
We're not going to celebrate this, but we're excited for the opportunity.
jordan holmes
Hey, this is a great thing for everybody involved.
What are we doing?
dan friesen
Very strange.
So, there's a term that's used in the sort of final statement that Ginsburg put out.
And this becomes a hinge upon which Harrison Smith...
harrison smith
Now, as she was dying just days before her death, as the NPR article says, as her strength waned, Ginsburg dictated this statement to her granddaughter.
Quote, Interesting choice of words.
President being installed.
That's what...
The CIA does.
dan friesen
Harrison Smith can go ahead and just fuck himself.
Installed is a term that's very regularly used to describe the ascension of someone to a position of leadership, particularly presidencies.
If you just Google the terms install and president, you'll find tons of articles that are based on press releases about things like Larry Schnell being installed as the president of the Livestock Marketing Association back in August, or a 2019 announcement that Dr. Stephen McDonald was installed as president of the Minnesota Dental Association.
If you consult dictionaries, the reason that this term is used regularly about heads of organizations is because it denotes that their ascending to that position requires a special ceremony, like an inauguration.
Grammatically, it makes total sense, but for Harrison, he knows that his listeners will just hear in stall And think of some speakers they put in in their man cave, and that's the point that they'll get.
jordan holmes
Somebody put him in there, which is technically true, which is why there's a Supreme Court justice that has to stand there and be like, I swear you in!
That's called installing a president.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The point here is that install means something that you did yourself, something you designed.
That's the point that he wants to make.
The word in this context doesn't mean that, and it's embarrassing to see Harrison play this game.
My next note here is Harrison is damn boring.
He is trash.
He is so bad at this.
I don't care for him at all.
And at this point, I was just sitting here thinking like, alright, you're playing this weird word game that's woefully transparent.
You're not interesting.
You're bad on the mic.
And so thankfully, you know, he saved the ship with this.
harrison smith
And folks, I will be joined later in this program by Alex Jones, who has some breaking news about...
Who may be appointed by President Trump, of course one of these names off of the shortlist that he revealed last week.
dan friesen
So, Alex is coming in, and I'm like, alright, at least he'll maybe be drunk.
There'll be some kind of firework.
jordan holmes
Be something great.
dan friesen
Alex will bring something to the table.
jordan holmes
And he's gonna jerk off on Harrison Smith's head.
dan friesen
This guy is just a dud.
It's really embarrassing.
jordan holmes
The worst part is he's doing the fucking vocal patterns of Alex, but in a very boring and uninteresting way.
Like, the way he goes, like, and we have something new!
Coming up, and then, and so, and what you have, and so that's the way it goes.
dan friesen
I mean, I would believe that he's 26 as easily as I would believe he's 15. Like, I have no idea who this dumb intern is that Alex has made a host of his evening show.
But I would not be surprised if pretty much all of his experience...
In this arena comes from Infowars.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that makes sense.
It's an in-house style, if you will.
dan friesen
Yeah, somewhat.
But the other thing, too, that's really annoying is that we're not going to celebrate, but this is a great opportunity.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
That kind of weaselly nonsense is just really annoying when it's coming from someone like Harrison.
harrison smith
Of course, he was a diehard leftist and was sort of the ringleader of the liberals there on that court.
And was instrumental in making many decisions that we here on the right would consider severely damaging to our country.
But you know, I'm not going to say anything bad.
I'm not going to say anything bad.
I'm not going to make any jokes about it.
I'm not going to play any distasteful songs from The Wizard of Oz.
I'll do no such thing.
We're not here to celebrate death.
dan friesen
You just did.
That's what that is.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That's saying that she's the Wicked Witch and ding dong the witch is dead without actually doing it.
jordan holmes
I'm not going to celebrate her death.
I'm going to sarcastically celebrate her death, Dan.
It's a completely different thing.
dan friesen
It's really stupid.
jordan holmes
No one can tell the difference.
I'm being very classy by...
Intimating how much I'm celebrating that she's dead.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Instead of out and out saying it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I would never call you an idiot.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You dumb motherfucker.
dan friesen
It's just disingenuous and I find it very annoying.
And I don't mind it from somebody a little bit more gifted.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's transparent bullshit either way, but from him it's just petty and condescending.
dan friesen
And when my job is essentially to take in this content, I do like...
Find myself hating boring people more than people who are interesting.
jordan holmes
If I have to survive this nonsense, at least entertain me.
dan friesen
It's taken as read that I'm gonna hate you.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Your policies, your beliefs are abhorrent, but I...
There's a special circle of hell for people like Harrison who are so boring.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And one of the things, too, is I just don't think he's all that confident.
I don't think he really knows how to cover this story.
And that's unfortunate because he's on air, it's breaking, and it's a giant story.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And so there was like a Trump speech going on, and he's desperately trying to see what signals Trump is giving for the ability to like, oh, this is the angle.
unidentified
What's our line?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
What's our line?
harrison smith
We're keeping an eye.
On President Trump at the podium now.
And we're eagerly awaiting the moment where maybe somebody in the crowd sees a tweet and shouts this out.
Or maybe an assistant of Donald Trump can sneak up and whisper in his ear that Ruth Bader Ginsburg has passed away.
And maybe he'll make a statement about it.
That would be ideal because there's one thing we know about Trump.
It's that his off-the-cuff statements are often more truthful.
And certainly more appropriate and exciting than his prepared statements.
dan friesen
I need direction.
That's what I hear there.
jordan holmes
All I heard was him saying, please tell us what to think.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I am unable to think on my own.
And if I do say what I want to say and it's wrong, you're going to be mad at me.
And I don't want anybody to be mad at me.
dan friesen
There are probably more eyes on this than normal.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, episodes that Harrison is doing, because he's trash.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And there's people who are like, oh, let's check in and see what's going on over on this ding-dong outlet.
And then you see this dweeb up there.
jordan holmes
You've got Harrison.
Oh, man.
dan friesen
And he doesn't know what to do.
Like, there's just...
There's an inability to really take a stand, like Alex might.
jordan holmes
It does seem like what should have happened is the moment the news hit and he said it, Alex should have come barreling in off-screen and tossed him to the sun and be like, Harrison can't do this!
Me!
dan friesen
Me time!
Me time!
Time for daddy!
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly!
dan friesen
Son, go to your room!
unidentified
You haven't graduated to this yet!
jordan holmes
Get the...
unidentified
Fuck out of here!
dan friesen
Fuck you, Harrison.
This is the big time.
jordan holmes
This is the big leagues.
You can't fuck around with this.
I'm not throwing in a rookie on this bullshit.
dan friesen
This is so important that I'm going to cover this shift.
And quite frankly, I don't even think Owen can handle it.
He's going to be beating you up in the other room, giving you a swirling.
Yeah, exactly.
That's the pecking order.
Yeah.
And I think that Alex should have.
I think he should have run in there.
He should have started the show.
He should have been hosting from the beginning because...
When there's more people watching, obviously you have an expectation or belief that you can monetize that.
jordan holmes
First impressions are everything, and Harrison should not be your first impression.
dan friesen
No, and he's not a closer either.
These ads are terrible that he does, too.
harrison smith
It's a Friday night.
We've got a full crew in the house.
Alex Jones is in the house.
And, of course, we have Norm Pattis on the line to break down everything.
All of the...
Incredible events that will now be put into motion now that Ruth Bader Ginsburg has passed away at the age of 87. And you can support everything that we do, all of these great guests, all of the crew, myself, Alex Jones.
We are all funded solely by you, the viewers, the listeners, the supporters, the InfoWarriors out there.
Going to InfoWarStore.com and taking advantage of some of our great sales.
Of course, it's the emergency election sale.
It's a total blowout.
dan friesen
Total blowout.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
That's just not going to do the trick.
unidentified
Bob Rorman, buy a car from here.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
That is not a call to action that is going to be effective in the Infowars style.
Yeah.
And I just can't imagine it being worth...
jordan holmes
He didn't tell me I was about to die, and that's why I should help him, so I'm not going to help him.
dan friesen
Right, it's just a blowout.
You always have fucking sales going on.
jordan holmes
Is it still the Easter sale going on right now?
unidentified
I think it is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I hope so.
dan friesen
It's an emergency Easter sale.
jordan holmes
Isn't Easter an emergency?
dan friesen
So Alex does show up.
Thankfully.
And business picks up, let's say, just by virtue of the fact that he knows what he's doing.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And so he's trying to make the rationalization that Trump needs to immediately put someone in before the election.
alex jones
The average life expectancy with pancreatic cancer is six months.
She's lived four years with it.
She's been given Darth Vader liver technology.
She's had liver cancer, a bunch of other cancers.
They have kept her alive.
And now with 40...
Five days left, she dies.
That is going to be like throwing gasoline and oxygen on a fire.
It's going to be like flamethrowers in a fireworks factory.
The left is going to go apoplectic.
They're going to go thermonuclear.
They're going to go completely crazy, completely ape.
And obviously Trump should not wait until he wins or loses.
The left's going to say, oh, he should wait.
No.
If the Democrats were in this position, they would nominate.
That process would begin.
dan friesen
Yeah, but in reality, we've been here.
We don't need to talk about what the Democrats would do.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
Hypothetically, the Democrats would nominate a judge and put them to the floor of the Senate for a vote.
And then in that situation, the Senate would, of course...
Block the nomination until the election of the next president.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It's not even, like, something we have to deal with in abstract terms.
It's very clear how this plays out, because it did.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
A couple years ago.
jordan holmes
God, I hate everybody so much.
dan friesen
It's frustrating.
jordan holmes
I hate everyone so much.
Everybody who's like, oh, but you did this four years ago makes me want to throw up.
They make me want to throw up.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
They really do.
Are you telling me you think that he was making a good faith argument back then?
Do you think that he was being...
He was like, no, no, no, I'm saying this because I think it's true, not because I just don't want to let a fucking...
dan friesen
Right.
Fuck off!
There's a naivete.
It's stupid.
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
It's legitimately stupid.
dan friesen
I think that most people have shame, and therefore, you have an expectation...
If you were called out for doing exactly the opposite thing that you said you would do, you would feel bad about it.
jordan holmes
Of course!
It would be too obvious.
dan friesen
I think it's naive to assume that politicians, particularly on the right, are capable of that.
jordan holmes
I'm more disappointed with anybody on the left who is like, no, we don't need to do that because he didn't do that.
Fuck you.
You're being hypocritical.
He was just lying.
You're the one who's like, Because what they're doing is they're saying if this situation happens again, we've already set two precedents so we can never...
unidentified
What kind of morons are these people?
jordan holmes
I'm doing great, Dan.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
I'm doing great.
dan friesen
So, the patriots, people like Alex, people like Harrison, they're above it.
They're above relishing.
Someone's death.
jordan holmes
Now, admittedly, we love relishing their death.
dan friesen
But we're above it.
They're above it.
Now, here's where Alex starts to get fancy.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
And this, you know, I talked to a White House advisor as well, not to two of the White House lawyers today, just in the last 30 minutes before we went along.
Well, you were already live.
I was talking to them.
And they said, look, the really sick math is they had her own life support.
They could keep her alive with adrenaline and growth hormone and blood transfusions.
And it was her wish.
To go ahead and die, to get the vote out as a blood sacrifice, because her main mission was to get abortion when she helped get through, and that blood sacrifice that Schumer talked about, you know, if you want a war, quit letting us have the blood of the babies.
We need that satanic energy.
And so this Skeksy, who went on to, you know, obviously meet her maker in the ninth circle of Hades today, I mean, there's no doubt Ruth Gader Binsburg, you know, who helped kill millions of babies, is facing God today, and we're not going to ask what God's judgment is.
I think it's pretty obvious.
dan friesen
Ruth Gader Binsburg.
jordan holmes
See, now, Dan, I have been looking at all the news today.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I've even been going into weirder circles, trying to find somebody with a better take on this than just what we all know, which is that this is fucked up and insane, and everybody is scrambling, because...
dan friesen
Yeah.
And it probably won't end well.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
And I couldn't deal with Alex, because that's your job, right?
And so I was so disappointed that nobody had anything good, but...
Hearing Alex say that this was a blood sacrifice warmed my heart, Dan.
It warmed my heart.
Thank you.
dan friesen
Ruth Gator Binsburg chose...
jordan holmes
Performed a blood sacrifice to get the vote out.
Yes!
Yes!
Thank you!
Thank you!
Nobody said that Mitch McConnell probably killed her with polonium poisoning.
Nobody had anything good, but now that I know that it's a blood sacrifice to get the vote out, I'm in.
dan friesen
I told you business was picking up.
jordan holmes
Business is picking up.
dan friesen
Harrison Smith can't come in with that shit.
That's Alex.
That's the difference between a pro and a guy who should be on the bench.
Not even in the league.
jordan holmes
That's 40 home runs a year right now.
dan friesen
So Alex gets to discussing his inside information that he's got from talking to White House lawyers and stuff.
He knows who the pick is going to be.
alex jones
I got a call from a lawyer that works for the president and I made another call to another lawyer literally 45 minutes ago as the show was starting.
And I said, what's the word?
And I said, it is Amy Coney Barrett.
Now, Trump can change his mind tomorrow, but...
dan friesen
Well, so that means nothing.
jordan holmes
So, nothing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Amy Coney Barrett.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
People are stupid.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that's Alex's big push.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He's saying that Barrett is going to be the pick.
He's pretty regular on this point, on this episode, and at the beginning of the 19th, although something does end up changing.
jordan holmes
He winds up supporting Merrick Garland.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That would be a twist.
jordan holmes
That would be a twist.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And, you know, I think that Alex also is a little bit unsure how Trump is going to play this.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so he, too, really wants to get signals from Trump's speech.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
alex jones
And they don't have all the answers either.
I mean, they asked me my opinion, but I gave them mine.
And they said, listen, they didn't murder Ginsburg, but she was being kept alive by some very serious drugs.
And they said, we'll come on tomorrow or give me sources tomorrow.
She may have given up the ghost and said, go ahead and let me die before the election to supercharge all of the Democrats to go out and vote and to go crazy.
So if things were already...
I guess Trump's speaking live.
He talks about Ginsburg.
Let's go to it.
You guys just go to it.
harrison smith
The crew's watching.
We're going to clip that up.
alex jones
Because we wish nothing against Ginsburg.
And we're sad that she's dead, even though she presided over the murder of all these babies and is a ghoul-like creature that tried to put women in the slave factories.
dan friesen
Okay.
So, yeah.
jordan holmes
That was a really good eulogy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We're sad that she's dead.
Even though murder factory...
dan friesen
We wish no harm on...
jordan holmes
She's dead.
dan friesen
What harm are you suggesting?
jordan holmes
I guess the afterlife.
I don't know.
dan friesen
Maybe.
He's already said that she's in the ninth circle of hell.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, he said ninth circle of Hades, which he's mixing up his mythologies there.
But also, wasn't that the cold one?
She doesn't even need to worry about it.
I bet it was too hot.
dan friesen
Are those robes good and insulated?
jordan holmes
I think so.
That's why we give them.
dan friesen
So Alex doesn't stay for very long.
He ends up leaving.
And then maybe Norm Pattis got on the phone or Deanna Lorraine came in.
I couldn't tell you because I don't care.
jordan holmes
Who cares?
dan friesen
Fuck you, Harrison Smith.
jordan holmes
We got blood sacrifice.
What is Norm fucking Pattis going to come with?
dan friesen
Get the fuck out of here.
When I say For the second time, that Ruth Bader Ginsburg's death was a blood sacrifice to get the vote out, you can give me the luck.
I have five.
I will be out of there shortly.
I've done what I need to do.
Yep.
unidentified
So we jump in on the 19th, Alex's Saturday show, and this tone is weird.
Yeah.
She just died?
Wow.
I didn't know that.
You're telling me now for the first time.
She led an amazing life.
What else can you say?
She was an amazing woman.
Whether you agreed or not, she was an amazing woman who led an amazing life.
I'm actually sad to hear that.
I have said to hear that.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
Is this what millennial Forrest Gump is going to look like?
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Is this what we're gonna have to live with?
dan friesen
Is this going to win an Oscar?
unidentified
All the munchkins and their descendants.
If any, yes, let the joyous news be spread.
The wicked old witch at last is dead.
You know, folks, someone said this was in bad taste, but...
alex jones
You did!
jordan holmes
You said that was in bad taste!
dan friesen
Harrison said that the day before!
robert barnes
You said it was in bad taste!
dan friesen
You did!
Harrison literally said, I could play that clip from The Wizard of Oz.
jordan holmes
God damn you!
Eight hours!
dan friesen
Now, the thing that I find really weird, and I didn't realize this, is that that clip of Trump finding out that Tiny Dancer is in that clip.
jordan holmes
No!
I thought he was playing it!
Tiny Dancer is in the clip?
dan friesen
Who put Tiny Dancer in the clip?
Because he's at a rally.
He's at a rally, and so the tiny dancer was playing on the speakers.
And so that makes it even more surreal.
jordan holmes
Why is the darkest timeline also the most parody?
dan friesen
It's very strange.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
I do really admire, in a hating kind of way, the balls that it takes to...
Basically have a whole thing about how we're classy.
Yeah.
And we're not gonna stoop to the levels that the left might.
And then literally the next day, open your show with the specific example of classlessness that you won't stoop to.
jordan holmes
Look, we can't put a Supreme Court justice in during an election year.
Now, admittedly, if it was me, I would put it in a Supreme Court justice in.
unidentified
Ding dong!
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
So Alex seems to really relish this situation, the tensions that are going to rise, and I think that makes sense, because it's definitely one of the things that he can most easily monetize.
alex jones
Obviously, 44 days out from the election, you can cut the suspense with a knife.
The year is 2020.
It is not disappointing.
It has been amazing.
It has been horrible.
It has been exhilarating.
It has been infuriating.
It has been nauseating.
It has been pain-taking.
It has been...
dan friesen
Piercing.
alex jones
And let me just give you a little newsflash.
I think you don't need me to tell you this.
You tune in because you already know this already in your gut.
That's why we resonate.
You just tune in for the validation you already know is real.
The kinship.
It's not going to get any better next year.
It's only going to get crazier from here on out.
So, just get ready for that.
You talk about the hot seat, folks.
I go march around with a crew at like 100 degree temperature and I'm hardly sweating.
And they're like, you're not even sweating.
But you're in air conditioning at 69 degrees, you're sweating.
Because as soon as I get on air and there's hundreds of thousands of people tuned into these special shows, millions tuned in on the regular shows, that is a zeitgeist.
That's a spiritual connection.
I start sweating because...
This is big stuff!
dan friesen
And because I'm on cocaine!
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
Because there's stimulants in my super male vitality.
unidentified
This year has not disappointed, Dan.
jordan holmes
It's definitely not been the year that I have been more disappointed in literally everyone on the planet than ever.
But, no, it hasn't been disappointing.
dan friesen
It's been so disappointing, I'm buying worms.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alright?
jordan holmes
I can't afford a casket.
I'm buying worms, okay?
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't know.
So, Alex introduces his guests, and like I mentioned already, we got Barnes, we got Norm.
jordan holmes
We got the heroes.
dan friesen
They're both coming up, and it's just funny that neither of them are his lawyer in the Sandy Hook case anymore, but...
They're still coming on?
jordan holmes
Bananas.
dan friesen
Very weird.
jordan holmes
What is wrong with people?
alex jones
And so, right as we went live, sweat.
Because this is big medicine.
This is big kahuna.
This is all our ancestors fighting to have resistance right at this point, to have us make it past this point where Satan is trying to exterminate our species.
And our ancestors are counting on us right now, and our very cells are demanding.
We kick some ass.
As soon as I go on air, all my old aches and pains go away.
All of a sudden, my muscles feel younger.
I feel all loose.
Because it's a war, people.
You're in the fight now.
jordan holmes
War.
alex jones
And if you're not having that feeling, something's wrong with you.
I can feel it, can't you?
And I can feel the enemy's lust to destroy it, and they will not.
Now, let's get into it.
We've got...
Constitutional lawyer Norm Pattis popping in at the bottom of the hour to get his take on what's coming.
Bob?
Barnes is gonna be joining us.
dan friesen
Weird.
Pause there.
I would say that this show does not deserve to be taken seriously.
This weird growling explanation for why he's sweating leading into my two former lawyers are gonna come and talk shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Very dumb.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yep.
We're fighting the literal Christian devil and just to prove to you that we are fighting him, I am going to make literal demon sounds as my way of...
Proving to you that I care.
dan friesen
And don't worry about all this sweat.
jordan holmes
No, no.
Don't worry about all this sweat here.
dan friesen
I know it's...
jordan holmes
Suspicious.
dan friesen
But don't worry about it.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
I have to create an entire mythology for why I'm sweating so much.
dan friesen
When I get on to my show, my pain goes away.
What he's describing is just adrenaline.
Yeah.
That's all.
jordan holmes
Whenever anybody's like, oh, it's stage health in stand-up comedy.
No, you get on stage, you're pumped full of adrenaline, and then you get off, and your adrenaline goes away, and you're like, oh, I still feel like shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, whenever I would...
One of the things that I noticed very regularly in my time doing stand-up was that getting on stage in front of a bunch of people is a really effective hangover cure.
Totally.
Whatever that adrenaline boost and...
The feeling that you have of the pressure, it takes away so much of the dull pain.
jordan holmes
Oh, totally.
dan friesen
But then you get off stage 15 minutes later, and you're just like...
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, there's so many times where it's like...
dan friesen
That's why the trick is to drink while you're on stage.
jordan holmes
And keep it going.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
So you've defeated the hangover by being on stage.
Take a couple shots while you're on stage.
And you'll be good afterwards.
jordan holmes
Hey, there's nothing like the 11 o 'clock at Zany's on a Saturday night, buddy.
That's how you get through a hangover.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I think Alex might be a little over the top.
alex jones
Maybe.
dan friesen
Maybe he's just sweaty.
jordan holmes
Maybe he's just a little sweaty.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's fine.
dan friesen
Anyway, earlier on the previous day's show, Harrison was playing a lot of games with the word install being used in Ginsburg's statement.
And Alex has decided that this is good enough to keep.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
So they're trying to act like it's bad that Mitch McConnell and Trump have done the right thing.
That's a no-brainer.
You know they would do that in a minute.
But here's the key.
What did RBG, Ruth Bader Ginsburg...
Dying words, if you believe it.
unidentified
Gator.
alex jones
And her most fervent wish, quote, my most fervent wish is that I not be replaced until a new president is installed.
Guys, give me the definition of installed.
Installed means put in place.
You install a puppet.
Installed is the term they use of installing a new dictator or installing a viceroy when a king puts in a puppet.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
Presidents are not installed.
dan friesen
What?
They are.
jordan holmes
No.
Nope.
dan friesen
Never.
jordan holmes
Presidents can't be installed.
alex jones
What?
jordan holmes
Nope.
Words don't mean anything except for what I want them to mean.
dan friesen
It's very strange that they thought, like, this is good.
This works.
jordan holmes
It plays, Dan.
unidentified
How?
jordan holmes
It plays.
Word plays.
dan friesen
It's so dumb.
Alex keeps going down this road, too.
He seems, like, really interested in this theory.
unidentified
Oh, man.
alex jones
Let's type in Kim Jong-un installed after father's death.
Because they didn't have an election.
He was installed, whatever it was, 12 years ago.
Kim Jong-un installed as North Korean Supreme Leader.
BBC.
Let's see if my memory just off the top of my brain was right.
How many years ago was he installed?
jordan holmes
This is a great radio.
alex jones
Nine years ago.
Time just flies.
I felt like longer.
So my brain was not correct.
Nine and a half years ago.
Installed.
Installed.
RBGs.
Dying words.
unidentified
My most favorite wish is that I not be replaced until a new president is very tall.
dan friesen
Very classy.
jordan holmes
Classy shit.
alex jones
Can we show the scene where the Emperor Skeksy dies and the new one is installed?
dan friesen
Good stuff.
Good stuff.
Words, man!
jordan holmes
This is great stuff.
dan friesen
Hey, words!
jordan holmes
It is always really disappointing to know that at the end of the day, no matter how eloquent your argument, if there's a crowd of people just chanting install, install, install, you lost.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You lost.
Doesn't matter what your argument is, they're screaming install, install, install, install!
dan friesen
Yeah, you know.
jordan holmes
Okay, fine, I guess that's what you got.
dan friesen
I could break out Webster's for you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right.
dan friesen
But...
He's yelling install over and over again, and I think he's got a point.
jordan holmes
That's a pretty good argument.
dan friesen
I hate Alex Jones, and even I think, like, he might be onto something.
He does keep yelling that.
jordan holmes
Let's check the dictionary definition of install.
Alex, there's more than one.
How dare you!
dan friesen
So, the night before, on the 18th, Alex had said that Trump's lawyer had told him that it was probably going to be Amy Coney Barrett.
Sure.
And now he's making good bets on that.
He seems to...
Be walking that back a little bit, being a little more general.
alex jones
But can you imagine what they're going to do with whoever that nominee is?
I'll bet my bottom dollar it's a woman.
And as long as they're a constitutionalist, I don't care if they appointed all women.
I just don't want a bunch of globalist women like Kagan and Sotomayor and the rest of the people that are up there that vote like they're on the Communist Party Politburo, not...
Supreme Court justices.
dan friesen
So now he's saying he thinks it's going to be a woman.
Which is fine.
But less specific.
jordan holmes
I don't care if it's a black person.
I just hate Thurgood Marshall and I would prefer Clarence Thomas to be in there.
You know.
Like a good person.
dan friesen
Alex the night before said that inside sources from the White House were saying Barrett.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Now he's a little more general.
unidentified
Probably going to be.
dan friesen
Which is weird because if he actually had a real source.
Seems like you would continue being like the word is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it seems like the ball is rolling pretty fast in her favor.
dan friesen
So now here's where things get really weird.
I mean, we've already had blood sacrifice.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Certainly.
jordan holmes
Sure, that's tops so far.
dan friesen
Yeah, now it gets even stranger because Alex suggests that maybe it's possible that Ruth Gator Binsberg has been dead for weeks.
unidentified
Okay.
This is what I'm missing!
alex jones
So the Crypt Keeper has probably been dead for weeks.
But they wanted to wait as long as they could.
My sources said she was dead a month ago.
I'd been seeing a month.
Remember, she was in the hospital for weeks and all these surgeries.
The word was.
But they wanted to push it longer so that it's closer up to the election so that there's not as much time.
But Mitch McConnell has the time because they knew Ginsburg was going to be going.
Most people live about 12 months.
The pancreatic cancer.
dan friesen
This is like QAnon shit, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, I totally understand why people retreat to conspiracy theories now.
Right now, I'm imagining living in a world where Ruth Bader Ginsburg was dead a month ago.
Yeah, and it's better.
It's better than the one I'm living in right now.
dan friesen
It's strange.
unidentified
It's weird.
jordan holmes
It's more fun.
dan friesen
I guess I would ask, why?
Why?
Because this, like...
This argument that Alex is making doesn't hold water.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
It makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
You want it to push it a month forward in order for it to be more of a tense situation.
I got bad news for you.
If this happened in April, it would be a tense situation.
jordan holmes
I have bad news for you.
Period.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It is a tense situation.
dan friesen
Yeah, you don't need to wait a month to get the biggest bang for your buck.
jordan holmes
Scalia died and it was a big tension situation.
She could have died any time.
dan friesen
Yes, absolutely.
Especially during an election cycle.
Like, at any point during the 2020 primaries or anything would have been fine.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
A month makes no difference.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Realistically.
jordan holmes
None.
Like, oh, no, no, no.
Mitch McConnell doesn't have the time to organize everybody.
dan friesen
That's what it is.
jordan holmes
They wanted to push it back a month because if he had those extra four weeks, we'd be fucked.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I'm sure that, like, by the time this episode comes out...
jordan holmes
Yeah, there will be a vote.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
McConnell doesn't give a fuck.
No, of course not.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
Yeah, but the thing that I think is really interesting is that Alex recognizes, even he's not so stupid that he doesn't realize, like, If I'm gonna suggest that she's been dead for a month, I better have a reason.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now, that reason is stupid.
jordan holmes
It's incredibly stupid.
dan friesen
It makes no sense.
jordan holmes
None.
dan friesen
He doesn't support his conclusion, but yeah, maybe she's been dead for a month.
jordan holmes
I like it.
dan friesen
His sources told him that.
jordan holmes
I just haven't read any good takes, but now that I know she's already been dead for a month, that's even more disappointing.
You've had a month to write a good take on Ginsburg's death.
This is what we get from Schumer and Pelosi if they had a month to think about their plan?
dan friesen
They might not have known.
It's a need-to-know kind of thing.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
It was a friends-and-family-only situation.
dan friesen
Only QAnon weirdos online and Alex's fake source were let in on this big secret.
Yeah.
Silly.
Oh, God.
Anyway, Alex, he's really...
Enjoying shitting on the dead in this episode.
jordan holmes
No, it's not classic.
dan friesen
Which Harrison would not be cool with.
jordan holmes
It's not cool.
alex jones
Ruth Bader Ginsburg is part of an anti-human, globalist cult.
And a cult that wants to keep babies alive in incubators and sell their organs.
She is a ghoul.
dan friesen
He's just talking shit.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yep.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
So now Alex, his belief is that Trump needs to put someone in.
Right.
Obviously.
And then when Trump wins the election, Clarence Thomas needs to get out of there.
So they can replace him with someone younger.
I'm fine with that.
So Trump will effectively have put in, what, four of nine?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It would almost make the Supreme Court so comically stupid as to be pointless and useless.
Oh, wait, it already is.
There we go.
dan friesen
So yeah, Clarence Thomas has got to go.
And Alex, in talking...
jordan holmes
Why did he pick Clarence Thomas?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So in talking about this, he wants to bring up Scalia.
But he can't remember his name.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
The right thing to do is as soon as Trump wins again, Clarence Thomas, he should retire and not act like Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
But I don't think Clarence Thomas is a bad guy.
jordan holmes
I do.
alex jones
But since Scalise died...
jordan holmes
Scalise?
unidentified
Steve Scalise?
alex jones
Since the last Supreme Court justice died that he was always imitating.
jordan holmes
Grover Cleveland?
alex jones
He has had some rulings that have not been as good.
And that's another issue.
Scalia.
Scalia died in that bohemian grove of Texas.
Remember all that?
Obviously they killed him.
dan friesen
Obviously.
jordan holmes
Obviously they killed him.
dan friesen
I love the temerity of Alex to be like, I can't remember this guy's name, but it was definitely murder.
jordan holmes
Obviously they killed him.
It was big news.
So big, I could never forget his name.
dan friesen
Right.
And I got him confused with Scalise.
I mean, they're very similar names.
unidentified
No, if it was, yeah, fuck them.
dan friesen
Alex refuses to bow down to Ruth Gator Binsburg.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
And, I mean, it's just, when you have people who have the beliefs that Alex is expressing, there's no real way to find a center.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
alex jones
I'm on purpose not bowing down to Ginsburg.
Because she supported after-birth abortion, killing babies after they're born.
I'm all about women's empowerment, the rest of it, but that's just something early she did to make her bone.
She became an establishment person that presided over so much bad stuff, and I just hope she gets replaced with a constitutionalist, a nationalist, a patriot.
dan friesen
When you believe that access to safe abortion care is equivalent to murdering babies after they're born...
There's just no middle to find.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
That is a position where that person's not going to change their mind unless they're internally motivated to do so.
Nothing you can say is going to be effective.
Nope.
jordan holmes
Nope, they're gone.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's just gone.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex has this view of Ginsburg, and he, you know, she's a demon, she's in hell now, all this.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Not, like, bent out of shape that she's dead.
He's relieved.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because when people he doesn't like die, he feels a sense of relief.
alex jones
Seriously, I don't like speaking ill of the dead, but when I heard Mao Zedong, you know, about him dying, I feel like a weight's off my back, or Hitler, I mean...
dan friesen
Mao Zedong died in 1976.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and when he heard about it...
dan friesen
Alex was two.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and his dad was like, hey, listen...
The greatest communist leader in the world just died, man.
The Birchers have won.
dan friesen
Alex was two years old.
jordan holmes
I bet his wife's gonna be great.
dan friesen
Alex was a year away from God telling him that he has an important quest.
jordan holmes
That's true.
unidentified
As a two-year-old child, he heard Mao died.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Oh, what a relief.
Oh, God.
Dad, I was really stressing about that.
jordan holmes
I had so many problems.
Oh, it's like a weight has been lifted up.
dan friesen
When I heard that Mao died.
jordan holmes
When I heard that Hitler died, obviously because I am my ancestors.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
When I heard that Mao died, I thought, I gotta get my blankie.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Norm comes in.
Norm Pattis.
jordan holmes
Norm, great.
dan friesen
This clip confused me.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
I wouldn't be surprised to see the Southern District of New York make a surprise move and maybe perhaps make a move against Donald Trump as a means of distracting people, as a means of seizing the narrative.
alex jones
Okay, now you're getting into real inside baseball because we're not bragging.
We're not playing games.
You and I were talking to someone intimately connected to Donald Trump yesterday about a separate piece of intel you had about coming indictments in the Southern District that I've also been told are ready and going.
And we don't want to go too far about who we were talking to, but they also then brought up who Trump is planning to have replace Amy Coney Barrett.
And that is from someone very, very close to President Trump.
And just as people know, we're not making this up.
You were there in the meeting.
unidentified
I was.
dan friesen
That's confusing.
Why is Norm Pattis having a meeting with someone who's intimate and an advisor for Trump and Alex, too?
Like, what is that meeting?
I mean, I don't know if I believe this, and it might be Roger.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, this is fucked up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if any of that is true, I'm not stoked.
I'm not stoked that anybody's in those positions where they can have those connections.
dan friesen
Why the fuck is Norm Pattis getting briefed on anything?
jordan holmes
Why is Norm Pattis?
Great question.
dan friesen
That is the eternal question that we will never know.
So he's still saying that Coney Barrett is the choice.
His phrasing there was iffy.
But based on listening to this, he still thinks that she's the frontrunner.
And there's a really funny thing where him and Norm get into this whole thing like, yeah, yeah, she's religious, she's a Christian.
And everyone's like, oh, is she going to vote in the Supreme Court with her Christian beliefs?
They'd never say that about a Muslim.
They're doing a lot of, like, they only think it's a problem because she's a Christian.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Which is funny for later.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But they start discussing the Democrats, right?
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
They've become more evil.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
Over time.
jordan holmes
Really?
How?
dan friesen
I think this might be slightly racist.
alex jones
I'm a populist.
I'm an American.
And I'd love to see a reform of the Democratic Party.
The Democratic Party, it seems like 30 years ago, was not this evil norm.
What do you think's happened to them, or what have they become?
unidentified
You know, I wish I knew.
I like to, you know, I look at it from a philosophic perspective and say the bottom has fallen out of pluralism.
We no longer have a common consensus of values.
It's all about identity and power.
And it's demographic shift.
I think the Democrats have cast their lot with an emerging majority and decided that they're all in for that.
dan friesen
Oh.
jordan holmes
I think what happened was the Democrats have thrown their lot in with non-white people, and I think I'm against that.
unidentified
That is what he said.
jordan holmes
That's exactly what he said.
He said they're going with the emerging majority, i.e.
non-whites, and I'm against non-whites having any power or identity.
dan friesen
Yeah, the Democratic Party is too interested in the needs of people who aren't white, and that is a bummer for Norm, apparently.
unidentified
Yep, yep.
dan friesen
That's fucked up.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's what they all think.
dan friesen
Sure.
So Norm is a lawyer.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
If you can pass the bar, it doesn't matter if you're a Nazi.
That's crazy.
dan friesen
And because he's a lawyer, it makes me really worried that he would say things like this.
unidentified
I was very encouraged to hear Bill Barr encourage local prosecutors around the 94 districts in the country to consider sedition charges.
Because I think that at some level, it wouldn't surprise me if somebody had the time to track the arrests of people in various unrest around the country.
You see, it's the same people traveling from city to city.
John Doe from whatever city in Portland.
alex jones
Norman, if you want to follow suit, I'll do it with you.
We know who Antifa is.
We Soros publicly funds it, brother.
He publicly funds it.
dan friesen
He publicly funds it, brother.
jordan holmes
How's Stone's defense fund doing?
He's doing great.
I'll file a suit along with him to really work on that one at any moment now.
dan friesen
Can I predict this isn't going to happen?
jordan holmes
Why would you make that prediction, Dan?
dan friesen
This suit's not going to happen.
jordan holmes
On what grounds?
dan friesen
Shenanigans.
jordan holmes
Shenanigans is a good ground.
dan friesen
So, the things that disturb me about that in Norm's thinking patterns are, one, he wants protesters charged with sedition.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Which is wild.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, it's great.
dan friesen
And then the second thing is that he has no evidence or any reason to believe that this is the case, but he's suggesting and floating the idea that all of these protesters in various cities are the same people going around to cause trouble.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
That's not responsible.
jordan holmes
No, what it means, Dan, is if you kill protesters in your city, you're not just saving yourself.
You're saving the entire country, because those protesters would just go to another city and bother other people, Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's a pretty disturbing kind of thinking to have.
jordan holmes
It's not good.
dan friesen
No, it's not.
So Norm sucks, and I don't care for him much.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
He worries me.
No.
Now, Norm gets out of there.
He comes in for a nice quick sting and then gets out, and now we've got Alex's other lawyer.
Bob Barnes.
jordan holmes
What do we got from Barnes?
robert barnes
Well, it's clear now that they withheld information about the dire nature of her health.
She was clearly in far worse condition than they let on.
Whether she was trying to stay alive or at least publicly be seen as being alive until after the election is no big question.
There are some people who think the timing of the disclosure of this was meant to be election influenced.
We'll never know the full truth because they were able to keep...
Information about her health so secret.
dan friesen
There's a cover-up.
jordan holmes
So you're saying that the Democrats have maybe been weakened at Bernie's-ing Ruth Bader Ginsburg?
dan friesen
I mean, that's one reading you could take of his comments.
jordan holmes
It wants to be seen as alive?
dan friesen
That's kind of...
unidentified
That's...
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
All right.
Norm might be another one.
Bob might be a she's been dead for a while kind of guy.
jordan holmes
She's been dead for a while.
Okay.
dan friesen
All right.
I would say this is silly, and he is a lawyer, which is not good.
But the thing is that I feel like the coverage of Ruth Bader Ginsburg's health over the past, let's say, year has been...
Hyper-focused on how tough a situation she's in.
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know how much of a cover-up of the severity of her health issues there is, considering all of these headlines about her going to the hospital happened over and over again.
jordan holmes
If she goes to the hospital, the entire fucking news system breaks down, and everyone's like, everybody's holding their breath, because it's just Ruth Bader Ginsburg going to the hospital again.
This is not a big deal.
dan friesen
Oh my god, what if she died?
I find the exact opposite to Barnes rings more true.
So Barnes has got a different prediction than Alex.
Alex is still saying he knows that it's going to be a woman justice, but he also thinks that it's going to be Barrett.
Barnes...
jordan holmes
Tom Cotton?
dan friesen
No.
Slightly different pick.
robert barnes
I said last night I predicted Barbara Legale would be the nominee, and now there's reports today that she's the leading candidate.
She is a Cuban-American daughter of immigrants, speaks Spanish and English from Miami, but a well-regarded conservative on the court, comes from that sort of Catholic-Cuban conservative tradition.
So she demographically is perfect, very hard for the Romney-lite types and the rhino types, and for Collins and Murkowski to turn down her.
dan friesen
Okay.
That's weird, too.
That's a little racist, too.
jordan holmes
We got a Cuban, so they can't say no.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's...
unidentified
These guys just don't even bother anymore.
dan friesen
Two dubiously racist lawyers in a row.
jordan holmes
I don't like the Democrats, because they got those non-whites, and if we get a Cuban, they can't say shit.
So, there we go.
Whiteness is great.
dan friesen
Alex, at this point, decides...
Fuck all of the, like, me pretending I have inside sources that have told me Barrett is going to be the nominee.
Sure, sure, sure.
Because Barnes is making some sense.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why not?
dan friesen
And it would be great if that was the candidate, because then it would prove we're not racist.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
alex jones
Okay, and I know you've got incredible sources.
You tweeted that last night.
They were saying Amy Coney Barrett, who I like.
But even better, if she's just as conservative, and if she's a beautiful Latina, that will really throw it in the left saying we're all racist faces.
dan friesen
Yeah, that'll throw it in people's faces.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
Yeah, that'll prove that we're not interested in tokenism.
dan friesen
It's very silly, this thinking.
jordan holmes
Oh, good.
dan friesen
So, Barnes has...
I don't know if what he's saying is true or not, because I didn't care.
I didn't care to look into this.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But he has some pretty compelling reasons why Amy Coney Barrett...
Should not be on the Supreme Court.
And it actually has to do with the payoff to the humor of Alex and Norm talking about, like, oh, they're all coming down on her because she's Christian.
robert barnes
Yeah, I mean, I think Barrett is big on a lot of people's nominations, but I'm not as big of a fan.
Barrett has made comments to the effect that she will recuse herself from a decision where the Pope has a position, which means she couldn't rule on abortion.
alex jones
My God, the Pope could constantly then make positions to control the U.S. Supreme Court.
robert barnes
Exactly.
And in fact, of course, he now has come out on immigration issues.
dan friesen
That's completely the opposite of how they were discussing her faith in the interview with Norm not half an hour earlier from this.
jordan holmes
Okay.
So this is where we get into the situation that we've described a million times with exclusive groups.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All Christians are fine now.
Well, we kicked out all the Muslims.
Guess who we hate?
Catholics.
It's not hard to read this coming.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It's happening currently.
dan friesen
There's historical precedent for that, too.
jordan holmes
We've been trying to kill Catholics for forever!
dan friesen
Yeah.
And I would say that the Pope would have a difficult time controlling the Supreme Court.
If one person recused themselves, that's what recusing is not taking part, as opposed to saying that the Pope is right about everything.
The ethical thing to do would be to recuse yourself, although I would say that that makes you not as effective as a Supreme Court justice if you're going to recuse yourself from all these hot-button issues.
jordan holmes
I can only rule on things that my religion doesn't have a stance on.
My religion is Catholicism.
Notorious for not having a stance on literally everything!
dan friesen
Yeah, yep.
So, Barnes has some thoughts about Trump being real smart, and I think that this is actually quite dumb.
robert barnes
Well, the other problem they have is more and more people are seeing the consequences of the lockdowns.
So as the intelligence of Trump postponing certain stimulus benefits and the rest, as people started to realize there are real economic harms, real social harms of the lockdowns that are much more dangerous than COVID is.
dan friesen
So do you understand why that's stupid?
jordan holmes
So many reasons.
So many reasons.
dan friesen
Trump is smart.
To delay these payments, because then people will start feeling economic consequences of the lockdowns, which could have been alleviated at least partially or maybe even mostly by way of a stimulus that would have sort of taken away a lot of the people's...
Motivation to have anti-mask protests and all that.
The stimulus and taking care of people in a way that can allow them to live safely would have gotten us through this virus outbreak much faster, much less death, much less economic consequence.
And all it would have taken is the exact same thing.
The Barnes says...
Trump is smart for not giving.
jordan holmes
So, here's what we could have done.
We could have had an election that was a referendum on Trump's surprisingly perfect handling of a global pandemic.
What if we had gotten through this all fine?
People would have been like, wow, I guess he is a good president.
He got us through this pandemic.
That would have rolled along to re-election.
dan friesen
It would have been really hard.
jordan holmes
Or, he could have killed hundreds of thousands of people.
In order to teach them a lesson about not getting uppity about wanting shit.
dan friesen
Right.
And how you gotta go to work.
jordan holmes
You gotta go to fucking work, you idiots.
I'll teach you plebes how to do your job if it kills me.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's really weird rationalization.
When you're talking about, like, Trump was really smart to deprive people of something that led to them feeling...
Bad.
jordan holmes
Can't feel bad if you're dead.
dan friesen
You know what I'm saying.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
It's very strange.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
This guy's a lawyer.
jordan holmes
Ah, man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It doesn't seem like the bar is as hard as they describe it.
dan friesen
It must not be.
jordan holmes
Either that or you don't have to think about anything else ever.
dan friesen
Maybe.
Maybe once you're in, you're in.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I guess.
dan friesen
Anyway, Barnes gets out of there and we have another guest.
Like I said, Murderer's Row.
This dude is...
I don't know what the fuck's going on, but he is all over InfoWars these days.
alex jones
All right.
Ali Alexander is a great political analyst, great talk show host, and writer and researcher, and he's on the road.
He was just up in Chicago at a big speech last night.
dan friesen
Damn!
How'd I miss that?
I'd love to go see Ali Alexander's speech.
jordan holmes
I can't believe we missed that speech.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, you never go see stuff in the city.
dan friesen
To be fair, my tomatoes haven't grown yet.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's true.
dan friesen
So I wouldn't have anything to throw.
jordan holmes
That's true.
We would have had to go buy tomatoes.
dan friesen
Yeah, I can't do that.
jordan holmes
That's expensive.
dan friesen
No.
Homegrown tomatoes only for throwing terrible performers.
jordan holmes
It makes it more satisfying.
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
You put the love in to the soil.
jordan holmes
Farm to table despicable.
dan friesen
Farm to face.
That's what you get, Ollie.
jordan holmes
I like it.
Farm to face it is.
dan friesen
I don't know what the fuck is going on with this dude, because he's terrible.
He's a little bit more interesting than Harrison Smith, though.
I'll give him that.
He's a religious wacko.
He's super...
jordan holmes
So he's got that pedigree behind him.
dan friesen
He's a super zealot.
That does add a layer of...
Oh, this is where you're coming from, as opposed to just Harrison Smith, who might as well be a cardboard cutout.
jordan holmes
He's a placeholder.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I don't know why.
He's all over Infowars the last couple months.
I don't know what the deal is.
I don't know if he has some sort of a contract or anything.
It's noticeable.
He's on all the time.
Oh, wow.
And, you know, he's got some ideas.
Abortion.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It's a blood sacrifice.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
A lot of blood sacrifices.
jordan holmes
I like a blood sacrifice.
unidentified
This is now the most important election in American history.
There's no doubt about it.
This will determine whether or not millions of children continue to get aborted or not.
The left is going to get super violent if Trump wins or if he puts another justice on the Supreme Court before the election.
I mean, we really gotta stock up on all materials because...
You've never seen the left so feral as when we are threatening to take away their blood sacrifice, and that is the abortion lobby.
dan friesen
So, the blood sacrifice is somehow, like, here's what I think.
jordan holmes
What do you think?
dan friesen
I think that if you believe that there's blood sacrifice going on that empowers the demonic globalists or whatever, and that's what allows this country to function or whatever, then you need to leave.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You can't be a part of this.
You can't take part in the American largesse.
You can't enjoy the free speech rights that are guaranteed by the government.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
You can't use our roads.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Because you know that that only exists because of blood sacrifices to the devil.
You can't live here.
jordan holmes
It is...
dan friesen
I understand wanting to fight back against it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But you can't live here.
jordan holmes
No.
We live in reality.
And if you don't want to live in reality...
Then go somewhere where you can live in your reality.
unidentified
Right!
jordan holmes
Don't make me live your fakeness.
dan friesen
There's a thought experiment called The Ones Who Walk Away from Amalus.
It's like a fucking first year philosophy class thought experiment.
And it's essentially...
jordan holmes
Well, Norm Pattis is probably an expert in that.
He likes to think philosophically.
dan friesen
He does.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
The idea of it basically is there's this place and everything operates really well.
people there are largely doing good.
And then at a certain point, everyone, when they're like 18 or whatever, they get taken to see...
what goes on in this secret room.
Sure.
unidentified
And the only reason that the society is able to function as it does is because one child is getting the shit kicked out of them constantly.
dan friesen
Constantly, all day, forever.
jordan holmes
It's a Doctor Who episode as well.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, it's a classic thought experiment.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oldest in time, yeah.
dan friesen
Right, and so the idea is you approach it from an ethical position, and what can you do?
You can only leave.
You can't take part in this society.
You can't, like, it's not wrong to want to save the child or whatever, but then you're causing...
The death of everybody else in the society.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
It's a complicated question, and generally speaking, the ethically correct position is to leave.
jordan holmes
You can only afford to live by your own principles.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
To then try and make a rationalized, like, the needs of the many outweigh the few, so I'm fine with this, is a ridiculous argument.
dan friesen
Right, and that would be...
jordan holmes
But it makes sense.
If you are applying it to other people without their knowledge.
You know, like stealing, like taking the kid and killing all of the people in the place.
That's you killing those people, essentially.
dan friesen
Right.
And obviously I disagree that abortion is a blood sacrifice that allows the society to operate, but based on their stated beliefs, that seems to be, like, why would they be doing blood sacrifices if it didn't somehow give them something they wanted?
Sure.
Obviously, these people who they're accusing of doing these blood sacrifices are doing it because it enables them to be in power or have our society function in the way that it does.
Therefore, leave, Alex.
jordan holmes
Leave.
dan friesen
Love it or leave it.
It's not that.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
I mean more like...
Also, it's a bullshit thing for them to say anyway.
If you really believed that abortion was a blood sacrifice that happens to 50 million babies a year, And you're on the fucking phone talking to Alex Jones, you have no moral principles whatsoever.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You're making up that bullshit, period.
dan friesen
Right.
I mean, whatever life that you have is facilitated by that blood sacrifice, if you believe the things you're saying.
Yeah.
Therefore...
You're complicit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Unless you leave.
jordan holmes
Unless you leave.
dan friesen
So, Alex should leave.
jordan holmes
So, leave.
Please leave.
Just leave.
Just go.
Just go.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's silly and childish, but that's the name of the game.
jordan holmes
Go live in Poland.
You love white supremacists.
Go on.
Get out of there.
dan friesen
So, Ali is talking here about how...
The left.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
They need to control history, right?
That's why they're all over the university.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Because they need to control history, because then, when they bring in the authoritarianism, they can say that the right wing did it.
And Alex is very, very interested in this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Invert reality more for me, buddy.
dan friesen
It's very...
He's so fascinated by it, and you can tell by his behavior.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
That's why they need to own academia.
That's why they want to own own history.
They want to rewrite it and say, oh, it was it was the Bible believers.
It was the whites.
It was the Southerners.
It was, you know, the right wing that turned this country authoritarian.
No, it's the left.
You guys have killed over 100 million people.
alex jones
Well, I asked Gavin McGinnis like five years ago, I said, what's peak insanity from the left?
And it just gets crazy and crazier.
unidentified
What is peak insanity about these people?
You know, I don't know if I could answer that.
You know, that's a scary place to go.
Honest to God.
alex jones
There is no peak.
unidentified
Yeah, there may not be any peak.
dan friesen
Alex is eating.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
You could actually even hear a crunch.
jordan holmes
There is no peak.
dan friesen
You could hear him take a bite of something.
jordan holmes
A chomp.
A good sandwich.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
I got a subway.
dan friesen
So this is the last clip, and it's Ali talking about how there needs to be increased security for people like Trump and senators and stuff because there are tons of people who are willing to die for abortion.
unidentified
You know, there are people who are willing to die for abortion.
So the lone wolves on the left, there's just going to be hundreds of them, maybe thousands of them.
alex jones
Well, that's the Soros plan.
Good luck, Soros.
He has an Operation Overthrow to overthrow the White House.
jordan holmes
Alex is still eating.
unidentified
Still eating.
jordan holmes
Still eating.
dan friesen
It's so rude.
jordan holmes
How can you have him on that much?
Is he your lunch break?
Is that why you have him on all the time?
dan friesen
I don't know what the deal is, but like...
jordan holmes
Is that an OSHA thing?
You have to have Ali come in while you eat to make sure that you're taking your lunch break?
dan friesen
Look, I have nothing but disrespect for Ali Alexander, and so I don't mind him being treated this way.
jordan holmes
I think it's funny.
dan friesen
But I still recognize that it's fucking rude as hell.
jordan holmes
It's rude as shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's rude as shit.
dan friesen
If I were him, I would not put up with this.
It's rude as shit.
jordan holmes
Food to eat on the air, period!
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, unless you're maybe like the Doughboys or something, it's a food show.
jordan holmes
If it's thematically appropriate.
dan friesen
Makes a little bit more sense.
But like, to be interviewing somebody on a live broadcast and just be chowing down while they're talking to the point where you're unable to respond to things that they're saying and there's long gaps and then you're talking with your fucking mouth full, like, that's so rude!
unidentified
President Nixon, you've had a complicated history.
jordan holmes
Could you please stop eating, sir?
Sir, could you please stop eating?
We're trying to do very consequential historical interviews.
dan friesen
You know what I think happened, if I can be totally honest?
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I think Alex kept saying the name Amy Coney Barrett, and he just kept thinking of chili dogs.
jordan holmes
I want to go to Coney.
alex jones
Chili dog.
jordan holmes
I need a Coney.
dan friesen
That's my theory.
jordan holmes
Coney's eyes.
Like a little chili dog.
alex jones
Chop, chop, chop, chop.
jordan holmes
Nathan's hot dogs.
Ah, that's good stuff.
dan friesen
Yeah, so...
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think they handled this poorly.
I would say...
jordan holmes
Honestly?
Honestly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, honestly.
Like, honestly.
This is...
Medium bad takes that I've read about Ginsburg.
This is medium in the bad takes, right?
dan friesen
I would say top to bottom, not done well.
jordan holmes
Not done well, no.
dan friesen
First problem, having Harrison Smith be the breaking news guy.
Real failure.
Disastrous.
jordan holmes
Real failure.
dan friesen
Second problem, Alex only was on the 18th for a short period of time.
He should have been there the whole show.
jordan holmes
No, that should have been taken over.
dan friesen
He came in and revolutionized the game with his blood sacrifice talk.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, that was where...
Things got real.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
That's your jumping off.
dan friesen
Then he's out of there and, you know, who knows what the fuck happened.
jordan holmes
What's the point of sticking around?
You already got blood sacrifice out of it.
Yeah.
dan friesen
But no, Alex should have stuck around because that theme could have evolved.
jordan holmes
Oh, I was talking about if I'm watching it.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Or he could have been drunk, you know, like he wasn't, but he could have been.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would have been great.
dan friesen
And that would have been fantastic.
Could have been going nuts.
jordan holmes
Would have been great.
dan friesen
So those are the problems with the 18th.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The night of the 18th.
And the 19th.
Alex, in his conversations with his two former lawyers, reveals so much.
Like, he reveals that his source doesn't mean anything to him because he changes his position once Barnes comes up with something that sounds better.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Then he just completely...
Barnes, I think he likes Barnes more than Norm.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, Barnes is more flamboyant, I would say, compared to Norm.
Norm is very monotone.
dan friesen
I think that Barnes is on the level...
With fascism.
You know what I mean?
jordan holmes
Okay, that's probably smarter.
Well, he doesn't have to worry about places he's not allowed to practice law if he's in the fascist regime.
dan friesen
I think that they see eye-to-eye on that stuff more, and that Barnes is ambitious.
Because he was trying to set up that great American law center or whatever.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
And Norm just kind of wants to defend criminals.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Barnes has schemes.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's up to something.
jordan holmes
He's always up to something.
dan friesen
And Barnes will go on Stefan Molyneux's show.
Sure, sure, sure.
jordan holmes
Barnes is better call-solving it all the time.
dan friesen
He's clearly up to no good.
And I think Norm is more just a sort of shady lawyer.
He's just a regular old asshole.
jordan holmes
Hey, did you commit a crime?
Yeah, fuck it.
I'll take care of you.
dan friesen
Yeah, and through those conversations, the entire thing is flipped with Barrett's Catholicism in such a revealing way.
And then just a lack of dignified behavior, which is not...
Surprising.
jordan holmes
That really is funny, because it probably will play out like this.
Barrett's nomination will be torpedoed by the fact that she's a Catholic.
Isn't that hilarious?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I mean, I don't think that it should or would, but I do think that probably from just a utility standpoint, you don't probably want somebody who's on record as saying that they have to recuse themselves in any matter that the Pope has weighed in.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know, that's what I'm saying.
dan friesen
If that's true.
That's not necessarily what I would describe as just being Catholic.
I would say that she's still perfectly qualified to be in a number of positions.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But maybe, if you're putting someone on a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court, you might want somebody who doesn't have to recuse themselves a lot.
jordan holmes
I mean, part of your Catholicism is generally believing that the Pope is the mouthpiece direct to God.
So, I mean, just generally, you know, like, we know Catholics don't actually believe that bullshit.
But, you know.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
People went apeshit because John F. Kennedy was Catholic.
dan friesen
True.
Yeah, I don't know.
I would say it's tragic that Ginsburg, or Gator Binsburg, died when she did.
Very sad for her family and for what it could pretend.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's hard to be, because we're flippant.
Naturally.
dan friesen
We're talking about Alex.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
And at the same time, it's just like...
It is an absolute tragedy.
And she was an icon.
Well deservedly so.
And this is affecting a lot of people.
dan friesen
And there are obviously problems with her record and stuff.
And you see people bring those up.
And I wish that that was more a conversation that was relevant for historians.
As opposed to trying to be like...
She wasn't that great.
I'm not even saying that might not necessarily be fair.
jordan holmes
I don't venerate any political position.
Fuck them.
dan friesen
I just don't know the use of it in the immediate.
Obviously, I'm worried about what could happen.
I'm worried about the direction of things to come.
I think that now is a time when we really Have to be as active as we can be in terms of protecting people and their rights.
There's going to be an assault on that, quite frankly.
And I think we need to be very cognizant of the fact that there are some responsibilities that we have to not allow things to backslide as much as they possibly could.
And I don't know how we do that.
I don't know.
I would say mail your senator a letter.
Call them and tell them to fight this.
Don't back down to the pre-election appointment.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I don't know how effective that would be.
jordan holmes
Let's shut the government down.
With people.
I mean, look, it's all Byzantine nonsense rules.
Everybody's talking about how they could do all these parliamentary procedures to just delay it by time, and you're like, What world do we live in?
This is magic.
We're living by arcane nonsense rules.
What are we doing?
Show up.
dan friesen
Yeah, maybe.
unidentified
Show up!
dan friesen
Maybe that is something that...
jordan holmes
If they have to have a quorum to vote, then surround the building and all of a sudden all the rules go away?
It's magic.
It's nonsense.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I'm not good at this.
I'm not good at having ideas of what to do.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
But I am good at looking at Alex and laughing at his dumbass.
jordan holmes
That's what we got.
dan friesen
Yep.
So I hope everyone out there is doing all right.
We will be back.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook.
unidentified
It's on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We're on Twitter.
It's at knowledgefight and I go to bed Jordan.
dan friesen
Yep.
We're, yeah.
jordan holmes
And now we're on Facebook.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And then we're also on iTunes.
Write your senator.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Write your congressman, write your families, and find a local bail fund or charity in your area.
Or a bear fund.
dan friesen
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
I could do Harrison Smith's job better than he can, and I don't believe any of that shit.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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