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Sept. 25, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#485: September 23-24, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on how Alex Jones has been handling the news of the week. As it turns out, he deals with stressful times by being really racist and expounding on nonsensical plans he thinks the devil has.

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alex jones
14:31
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dan friesen
01:13:07
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jordan holmes
27:32
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robert barnes
01:02
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donald j trump
00:02
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dr andrew wakefield
00:08
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dr joseph mercola
00:12
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larry klayman
00:02
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laura ingraham
00:05
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mike adams
00:01
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savanah hernandez
00:09
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
It's time to pray.
donald j trump
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your room.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
KnowledgeFight.com Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody!
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
unidentified
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan!
Jordan!
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
unidentified
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
Well, today, Jordan, it is a weighted blanket.
That is all.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
No.
Okay.
All right.
jordan holmes
Is that an expression?
dan friesen
I have trouble sleeping.
Sleeping is tough.
And I'd heard talk that weighted blankets are a really cool way to aid your sleep.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
You know, you have that pressure down.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
Maybe you move around a little less.
So I ordered a cheap one, and I do not find that it has helped sleep at all.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But because of the way...
jordan holmes
You're no longer afraid of thunderstorms?
dan friesen
Uh, yeah.
It has had that effect.
unidentified
Okay, alright.
dan friesen
It is a thunder blanket.
Okay.
I don't really...
I didn't find much use of having it on top of me, but it makes a really good body pillow.
Because it's kind of heavy.
unidentified
I was kind of thinking it was more like...
jordan holmes
Oh, this feels like a person.
dan friesen
It's less that it feels like a person, but it's like, there's some weight to it, and it's cooling.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
It has a bit of a coolness to it.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
So it works better like that than it does as a weighted blanket.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Which is a little bit disappointing, but it's still, you know, it's a push.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Ah, yeah.
Even split is fine.
dan friesen
Yeah, sometimes a dealer gets blackjack and that's still a bright spot.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because you got insurance.
jordan holmes
You bought a flatter, more spread out pillow.
Like somebody took a rolling pin to an actual pillow.
Something along those lines.
dan friesen
And like I said, it was cheap.
If I'd paid a lot for it, I would be furious.
But I did not.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was smart.
dan friesen
How about you?
jordan holmes
My partner and I discovered that you don't have to go out.
To do karaoke, Dan.
I have a lot of music.
I have speakers.
We spent one night just karaoke-ing our asses off, Dan.
unidentified
You two are the worst.
jordan holmes
Have you considered the last time that you really belted out Space Oddity?
dan friesen
It's been a while.
jordan holmes
It's been a while.
Did it feel good?
dan friesen
Well, uh, no.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
No.
unidentified
It did.
dan friesen
That wasn't one of my karaoke jams.
I find it a little pretentious as a choice.
jordan holmes
Out of control to me.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No, I mean...
We have a scene of our own home!
I don't need to feel pretentious about my choices!
It's just her and me!
dan friesen
Weren't you shit-talking musical theater kids the other day?
jordan holmes
Of course I was!
unidentified
Says the guy who sits around at home singing the most theatrical David Bowie song.
jordan holmes
I think Life on Mars is the most theatrical.
dan friesen
It's debatable, but there's a lot of story to Space Oddity.
jordan holmes
There is.
dan friesen
I would say no.
Here's my problem with what you're deciding to do with your life.
jordan holmes
This is what I'm doing with my life.
I have one night where I do a sing-along, and now this is my fucking choices.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
Lecture me on this.
dan friesen
Well, karaoke is really only fun if you're, like, wasted.
I find.
And a group of people are there that you don't know.
The private karaoke thing, I've done that a couple times, and it's so weird.
It's not fun.
I only enjoyed karaoke when you could kind of...
I don't know.
It's almost like doing a set.
Sure, sure.
You've got a ton of people you don't know, and we're all having a good time together.
You're saying something with your choice of song.
You can elevate people's evenings or weird them out.
jordan holmes
Right.
You enjoy performance.
You don't like the pressure of then having to see the person a couple hours later and have them be like...
That wasn't great.
dan friesen
No, I don't mind that.
I can take some feedback.
It's just more the one-on-one thing.
You and your partner just sitting there.
jordan holmes
There was plenty of standing.
dan friesen
Well, sure.
jordan holmes
It was great.
It was a fantastic time.
Oh, man.
This is when we find out secretly you fucking karaoke in this room every single night.
Every night.
Of course you do.
Yeah, but I'm not alone.
dan friesen
I got my plans.
No, I have not karaoke'd in a long time.
Ever since, you know, I actually don't think I would ever enjoy doing it again, even with the alcohol.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
I really, I think that I'm over it.
I did it a lot when I was younger.
jordan holmes
I don't know, I disagree.
I think if we got drunk together again, oh, I think I could karaoke you.
When there was only one set of footprints, I was karaoke-ing you.
dan friesen
Alright, we got it.
You found the pun.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to go over.
We're going to be talking about September 23rd and 24th, 2020.
I'm Dan, this is 2020.
So that would be Wednesday and Thursday of this week.
First, before we get into it, let's just address a little bit the not having an episode on Wednesday.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Nothing happened.
There was nothing terrible, personal lives or anything.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
We were in a situation where Alex was in a bit of a holding pattern.
It wasn't saying anything new.
And so in order to make an episode about him, it would have been just painfully redundant.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There was nothing new coming out of Carrie over Project Camelot.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And so I didn't have anything to go for there.
Jim Baker's still a bummer.
And so what I decided to do was I was going to just have a fun time with you where we listened to Lionel's CD.
And it's fair use because we're critiquing it.
Of course.
But I realized an hour before we were going to record that my computer doesn't accept CDs.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was an interesting time.
There's no CD drive!
You're like, alright, we got it.
I'll meet you.
And then an hour before you're just like...
We don't have the capability.
Where's the VHS player?
dan friesen
I guess there is a USB CD drive I could probably get.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And maybe we'll do that to get the Lionel episode eventually.
unidentified
Could be.
dan friesen
But that really threw off the plans and then trying to come up with something.
It would have just been too forced.
And I don't want to put out a garbage episode just to put something out.
So, sorry about the inconvenience, but here we are.
And maybe better for it.
I hope so.
So we'll do this episode and have a lot of fun, but before we do, Jordan, we're going to take a moment to say thank you to the folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
jordan holmes
That's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Joseph W., thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Joseph!
dan friesen
Next, XX underscore ironic underscore edgelord XX.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, username.
dan friesen
Ironic edgelord.
Next, Habeas Dorcas.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Habeas Dorcas.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Madeline H. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Madeline!
dan friesen
You know what the H stands for?
Habeas Dorcas.
Madeline Habeas?
Okay.
Ben R. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
I'm a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Ben!
dan friesen
I'd like to say thank you to somebody who donated on Elevate.
I appreciate that very much.
So, Kelsey E., thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate, that's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
We gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimp so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Kelsey.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much, Kelsey.
dan friesen
And then finally, I'd like to say thank you to someone who we are inducting as a raptor princess.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
And this is Molly Jane.
Thank you so much.
And I felt in honor of this induction of this raptor princess, I would just go ahead and read their message that they sent.
unidentified
Perfect.
dan friesen
Because I'm going to acquiesce to all demands that are made in this message.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
May I humbly ask that I get a joint shout out to my chickens, Buffalo, Parmesan and Nuggies and a memorial for my chicken.
All one word of the sea who tragically passed on this.
stupid thing we call 2020 rest in peace up the seat indeed my ducks are assholes and don't get a shout out but my boyfriend and our dogs gypsy danger and uh the brin and greta von plurdy do Also, Laredo Lemon, my fish, if you don't mind.
He's fine with your aversion to water food, even though he very much appreciates the giant land fish who bring him food every day for no apparent reason.
Also, I grew up in West Dakota.
The North-South thing is a conspiracy that we can talk about after these ads for survival food.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
And Minote.
North Dakota is Minot, not Minot.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I mispronounced it in two different ways there.
jordan holmes
It's pronounced Quokka.
dan friesen
I know it looks like French, but it's the same as the capital of South Dakota, in quotes, that's called Pierre, but it's pronounced Peer, which I actually didn't know.
jordan holmes
I didn't know that either.
dan friesen
That's nice and educational.
jordan holmes
It's great to take words that mean something and then destroy them.
dan friesen
Yes.
So, Molly, Jane, thank you so much.
You are now a raptor princess.
Your chickens, buffalo, parmesan, and nuggies.
We're gonna call Wonks of the Sea.
Rest in peace.
Tragically gone too soon.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
Technocrat.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Ducks?
dan friesen
Nothing.
jordan holmes
Nothing for the ducks.
dan friesen
But your boyfriend and three dogs.
Let's go with Wonks.
jordan holmes
Wonks, okay.
dan friesen
Laredo Lemon as a show of magnanimousness on my part.
jordan holmes
Magnanimity.
Sure.
Magnanimity.
dan friesen
Yes, because of my noted distrust of the water creatures.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I'll make Laredo Lemon a technocrat just for fun.
jordan holmes
A technocrat?
dan friesen
So anyway, thank you so much, Molly Jane.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
alex jones
I'll barbecue your ass.
mike adams
It's over for humanity.
alex jones
You're a beautiful soul.
They're coming for your balls.
Well, I piss all over your gun.
Very few people crap in the pool unless they're babies.
I piss all over the state.
larry klayman
Make it a practice of calling people pieces of garbage?
unidentified
When they are.
jordan holmes
Come on!
unidentified
As you see this.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Molly Jane!
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much, Molly Jane!
dan friesen
If you're out there listening and thinking, hey, I enjoyed this show, I'd like to support these gents.
You can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show, we would appreciate it.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we would.
dan friesen
So, or Jordan?
jordan holmes
What you could do is take that generous spirit, play yourself your favorite song, and just belt out with your heart every single note.
And that generosity should be spread to your local charity or bailiff.
dan friesen
Indeed.
So, let's get down to business on this episode.
I've got some things to take out of the mailbag zip, but we'll do that at the end of the episode.
jordan holmes
Okay, nice.
dan friesen
But for now, we'll start here on the 23rd on Wednesday.
Alex is kind of obsessing about how there's 40 days left of the election.
alex jones
40 days, 40 days, 40 days until the election.
It is Wednesday, September 23rd.
I'm your host, Alex Jones.
There's so much incredible news breaking.
dan friesen
I felt like I was going to be alright covering this episode because I listened to that and I was like, why didn't he say 40 days and 40 nights?
The fact that I was able to be confused by that was a good sign.
jordan holmes
That he didn't get the Jesus reference in there?
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's teed up on a platter for him.
jordan holmes
That's his least favorite part of the Bible.
Jesus said all the stuff he disagrees with, Dan.
dan friesen
Still, it's the number.
If you have 40 days, you also have 40 nights.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
It's a big one.
jordan holmes
That could be.
dan friesen
You can't use it tomorrow.
You'd figure.
So anyway, I got caught up on that and I was like, alright, cool.
Maybe my...
My spirit is in this.
So Alex gets to talking about some culture war.
There's new culture war stuff going on.
alex jones
Now there's a new phenomenon on TikTok.
jordan holmes
The war on Christmas.
alex jones
Of Democrats celebrating the murder of their children as an act of their power and their selfishness, where they then imply that they're going to kill their three, four, five, six-year-old children as well.
This is a group of psychotic demons.
dan friesen
Wow.
Leading the show with his TikTok news.
jordan holmes
Oh boy, okay.
Alright, so TikTok.
Celebrating murder of your children.
dan friesen
Top story.
I've said this once and I'll say it again.
It's pretty embarrassing for Alex to be spending his time turning dance fads into evidence of demonic possession amongst his enemies or whatever.
This doesn't even really deserve discussion other than to point out that this is the kind of stupid shit that Alex thinks merits time on his show.
The only other thing I would like to point out here is that the article about this on InfoWars was written by Paul Joseph Watson, and as is his style, he spends a lot of his time reporting on comments from anonymous people on the internet.
This is kind of how their fake outrage nonsense works.
They find something that's momentarily popular online, generally something that actually is or they can portray as a phenomenon that's disproportionately popular among minorities, as you see in Paul's article, quote, in yet another desperate effort for dopamine and social media clout, parents and siblings, most of whom appear to be African American, are seen lip syncing to the song Baby by Blueface.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
So the next step in the process is to pretend that it's not just a transient trend that no one will remember in a week.
It's actually something really meaningful and damning about the culture of the left or whatever.
jordan holmes
Now, admittedly, they also won't remember it in a week.
dan friesen
Probably not.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
They'll move on to being outraged fakely about something else.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
They write a piece grandstanding about their moral outrage, and because no one except people who are online way too much even know or care about this dance fad happening, the only comment they can ever get on it is from people who go by names like RagingBoner1488 and SirSlursAlot, which you can clean up by just crediting those people as concerned internet users.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
The entire moral outrage behind this article is fake.
It's a performance, and it only exists to justify Alex getting on air and using it as the backing for his reporting, which will just end up being rambling nonsense.
sense about the devil and how his enemies are into killing children to appease said devil.
Yes.
unidentified
The end goal is enabling Alex to demonize his perceived enemies.
dan friesen
But when you get down to the bottom of what's supporting that, it's just a couple of TikTok dance videos they're pretending to be mad about and a few anonymous internet comments.
It's meaningless, ultimately.
But it's kindling for the my enemies are demons fire that Alex needs to keep constantly fed.
jordan holmes
It's an excuse to say what you were going to say about the last excuse to say what you were going to say about the last excuse you were going to say, which is, I don't think that my political enemies are even real people and we should kill them.
dan friesen
Incidentally, if you, you know, I mean, like, Paul's playing around with internet comments, so I figured, why not?
Let's do the same thing.
If you scroll through the comments on his article, it seems like some of Paul's readers might have picked up on the not-so-subtle racist tone of the coverage.
Like this one user, GreenEyedLady2019, who said, quote, It's sad to say, but the more I see the behavior of some black people, the more I don't like them.
I know that they're not all like that, but many these days.
If they want respect, they should stop pulling crap like this or BLMBS.
unidentified
Hmm.
dan friesen
Or, how about this, Jordan?
There was Nimidan, who's a user on there, who uses these videos seemingly to justify his support for eugenics.
jordan holmes
Sure!
dan friesen
On the website of noted eugenics disliker Alex Jones, saying, quote, One of the few leftist ideas I support is publicly funded abortion for the underclass.
It will do until we make sterilization a prerequisite for receiving welfare.
jordan holmes
Oh, wow.
dan friesen
Right in line with Alex's career.
Or, how about this exchange between two users?
It starts with Banned Again by a commenter who says, quote, Wow, it's so easy to manipulate Africans.
Fart Blast Concussion replies, quote, Then why can't someone manipulate them into learning how to read and write, act right, etc.?
Banned Again responds, quote, Because it's not easy and requires personal effort, critical thinking skills, and taking individual responsibility.
There's plenty more to choose from, but you get the point.
This is a story that Alex feels the desire to cover, not because it means anything that there's a dance trend where people throw a baby off screen pretty obviously to someone who's there to catch the baby.
It's because this kind of story, presented the way Paul presents the story, gets across the subtler white identity message that's the actual point.
And you can tell by the discussion in the comment section of this article that a lot of the folks get it.
They get it.
They know what's going on.
This is the point of it.
You hide behind the fake moral outrage about a dance trend video on TikTok, and it's a way you can trojan horse your racism and make it seem appropriate to talk about.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, you can't just say racist things every day.
People will get bored.
You have to create a fictitious reason to say your racist things, and then people will click on it, emotionally outraged, and be like, yeah, racism is great!
dan friesen
Yeah.
And so, you know, what you do is you create these false moral outrages around things that you want to direct people to sort of subtler points about.
I mean, it's the same thing, the way they target all kinds of protected classes and vulnerable populations without having to be upfront about what they want to do.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So, it's funny when he accuses Alex, then goes on to accuse the left and, you know, all of these people.
Of playing with your morality.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
All of this is to teach you that you have absolutely no value.
And so you won't stand up for your neighbors.
They won't stand up for you.
They can turn your emotions and your so-called morality on like a light switch.
Oh, George Soros' Black Lives Matter is moral.
But if you're marching for better VA benefits, you're not allowed to.
jordan holmes
No, we are also doing that.
alex jones
Very, very simple.
This is total tyranny.
And tyranny is not supposed to be logical.
dan friesen
I haven't heard Alex talking about anything substantive about the VA or increasing benefits for quite a while now, and I think he realized that he didn't have any good examples he could throw out to make his point.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there is an issue there.
dan friesen
They say it's cool for BLM to march, but then they mock my tiny bullhorn when I want to go to the creek.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It doesn't quite feel the same.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're like, oh, we should not be murdered by the police, and I'm like, I want to have a nice, relaxing day by the pool.
dan friesen
I want to go swim with people and have a food truck, which no one stopped me from doing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Incidentally, no one's opposed to marches that bring attention to issues related to the VA.
jordan holmes
We're super for them!
dan friesen
This is actually one of the worst examples Alex could have used, specifically because noted globalist Jon Stewart held a press conference last week where he lobbied for the government to take better care of veterans, quote, whose health has been harmed by exposure to burn pits.
Alex hates Jon Stewart, and yet...
Jon's dedicated a large part of his time post-Daily Show to lending a celebrity to people who need champions for their causes.
jordan holmes
Ah, he must be a fan of Jon Stewart's now, because Jon Stewart isn't even allowed to do that, right?
Jon Stewart had to break through all of these censorship things, because nobody wants to talk about anything else.
dan friesen
Jon Stewart wore a mask.
jordan holmes
That's why they gave him a press conference, to make sure you knew he was banned from talking about it.
dan friesen
Must be.
Yeah.
unidentified
No one's mad at Jon Stewart for holding a press conference to support veterans.
dan friesen
People are mad at people like Alex, who hold rallies specifically about rejecting public health guidance.
Yeah.
If someone wants to hold a rally responsibly for a legitimate cause, I don't think anyone's going to be too mad about it.
They're just going to be mad when your whole point is being irresponsible and the message is basically that you just want to yell at people for attention.
Yeah.
unidentified
That is going to be...
dan friesen
That's going to be seen as trivial.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm going to go out on a limb and say, if Alex had a march for VA benefits, if you were to actually talk about VA benefits, they would be very uninterested.
And they would be far more interested.
dan friesen
I think Alex couldn't draw a crowd with that.
Right.
I think Alex would not be able to speak in any way with substance.
jordan holmes
Eloquently or passionately at all.
dan friesen
Well, maybe passionate, because he fakes that so easily.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Getting into the nitty-gritty.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Being a wonk about it, if you will.
jordan holmes
I don't think he's got that skill.
dan friesen
No, I don't think so.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Alex is aware that the announcement of the charges, or lack thereof, surrounding the killing of Breonna Taylor were due to come out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think everybody had a good sense based on the things that were happening, like the state of emergency.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if...
dan friesen
There was a lot of signals.
jordan holmes
If your mayor is like...
In advance of this decision, we're going to close down everything, and if you move, we're going to shoot.
Okay.
dan friesen
You got a real sense of what was coming.
jordan holmes
Nah, I'm pretty sure those were just precautionary measures.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Alex is aware of this, and so he knows that he's kind of got to prepare for what could come.
unidentified
So they're supposed to release the Breonna Taylor.
alex jones
Findings and the rest of it, what's going to end up happening.
The verdict.
When the SWAT team rate had gone bad, police didn't want to kill that EMT.
They didn't know she was shacking up with the bad guy.
What?
unidentified
And when the police were in the wrong, they're in the wrong.
alex jones
Why can't you get black folks or white folks to care about the millions of aborted babies This is the standard stock response that Alex has to justify the murder of non-white people.
dan friesen
In circumstances where even his racist-ass mind can't come up with an explanation for why a killing doesn't matter, his last retreat is to say that abortion is murder and why don't people care about that?
It's a deflection, because he knows that what happened to Breonna Taylor is unacceptable, and people are right to be furious about it, and right to be even more furious that the police won't even be tried for it.
He knows that, and he can't argue against it without sounding like a commenter on his website, so he waves a flag that says, what about abortion?
And hope that distracts the listeners long enough to convince them not to care about a woman's killing.
After Dylan Roof killed nine people at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in June 2015, Alex knew that there was no way to spin that.
So he got on air the next day and said that if Roof really wanted to kill black people, he should have become an abortion doctor.
This is the trick that he uses.
I've been over this a number of times, but it's always important to remember that...
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
These are fingerprints of the racist editorial position at Infowars, and it's designed this way on purpose.
You might not see these things as racist if you weren't paying attention.
So they work incredibly well at luring in unsuspecting people, and before they know it, they've accepted or become numb to things that should be shockingly racist.
That's the goal.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's hard to...
It's hard to look at that and not see a little bit of fault on the...
Look, if you're reading that and you don't catch the racism there, problems happened way before.
There's no way...
This is not something that you just started.
You didn't click on an Infowars link as your first intro to, well, I guess it's okay for cops to murder people because of abortion.
You're going to go...
You're gonna go back and you're gonna find a lot of shit along the way.
dan friesen
Well, I think, too, like, I think this is kind of part of what you're touching on, too, is, like, that, like, what Alex is saying on the page, like, if you read it, it doesn't sound the same.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
You just hear him say it.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And that's the same thing with, like, stand-up.
If you read a joke, like, a good stand-up's joke, it probably won't make you laugh.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But a lot of it is in the delivery.
People can say things that are unconvincing and stupid and make them sound like they mean something.
And that's part of what Alex does, and that's what the danger of him, you know, these subtly Trojan-horsed racist things.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
You may not know the temperature of the water.
jordan holmes
Sure.
I'm just saying that it seems so transparently obvious what he's doing.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
You know, like...
How can you not see through that?
And that's a failure of critical thinking education, I have to imagine.
dan friesen
I think partially, and then I think partially some people don't encounter this with their guard up.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
It's not fair for us necessarily to look at a casual listener of his show in the same way that we look at what we're doing.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Looking at this critically is a sort of different exercise than...
Someone who is just sort of like tuning in because they're maybe curious about a conspiracy or like, what does Alex actually say?
And then you hear it, you know, you hear what he's saying and maybe...
You know, maybe you're vulnerable to some of his religious overtones.
Yeah, totally.
Maybe you're vulnerable to something else.
And, oh, it starts to make sense.
Yeah, you know what?
unidentified
A lot of people, a lot of babies do get aborted.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And you start to make rationalizations.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
It's possible.
It's just, it's got to be something that's taught in class.
Like a literal, like, hey, here is what a bad faith statement looks like.
This is a classic whataboutism.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Be on the lookout for these, you know?
dan friesen
That'd be great.
And then the fraud assholes switch it up.
jordan holmes
I'm just saying we need to bring back the paddle in schools.
I think that's my point, right?
That's what I was trying to say?
dan friesen
I think you might have gone off the rails a little.
jordan holmes
Did I go off the rails there?
All right.
dan friesen
So Alex is complaining about the abortion stuff, and I think he's got some of his memories confused.
alex jones
There's a bunch of these videos to me to air them all, and it reminded me of something I saw a year ago that's in another compilation video we've got.
And I'm not going to air it.
I'm not going to put you through it, okay?
jordan holmes
Because we can't find it.
alex jones
But it's just a big thing where the left fetishizes being nine months pregnant and they talk about, oh, you feel the baby kick and we love it and we talk to it and we make jokes about how we're going to buy toys.
And then it really turns me on when my husband and I go in and get that abortion and we chop that little piece of garbage up because it's about our powers.
It's pure Satanism.
I mean, maybe I should play the clip again.
You want me to play the clip again?
There's videos, people talking about this, and it's all over Twitter, and they do it.
And she's like, baby, it turns me on when we kill it.
He goes, I know, I love it.
This is their main culture, folks.
They are Satan-esque.
dan friesen
Alex is conflating things.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He has a couple of videos that he used to yell about a lot.
One of them is a clip of Michelle Wolf doing stand-up where she discusses getting an abortion.
The other is a documentary show that includes footage of a woman getting an abortion where she makes a noise that Alex just decides is her having an orgasm.
That's something that Alex has projected onto the footage as opposed to it actually being something in the actual footage itself.
The other stuff is like stray clips of Alex at reproductive health rallies and people being like, I love the devil!
Like fucking with him.
jordan holmes
I think my big...
The thing that we're seeing pay off is the Avengers of his narratives, is the way that over time, because he forgets what specifically he's talking about, he just references a melange of five different things that he probably referenced at some point in time, and because you know that he's referenced something like that in the past, you're like, oh, well, this must be the story, not...
He's just putting together five different stories for no reason other than for fun, you know?
dan friesen
Yeah, and that's the other advantage of, like, paying attention with a critical eye.
Like, I know that one piece of it is those videos.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then the other piece is something that Alex took from that troll post on Thought Catalog called, quote, Can we stop pretending like abortion doesn't feel good?
This was written by Nicole Mullen, which is the pen name of Nick Mullen.
If you take that article seriously, the joke is on you.
Alex is taking the stuff that was written in this very clearly fake troll article and pretending that he has tons of video of people saying that they get off from having abortions.
It's legitimately embarrassing stuff, but embarrassment is not a feeling that someone like Alex is capable of having.
A normal person would be told that the stuff that they're reporting on was written specifically to make people like them, who believe bullshit without looking into it, look stupid, and they would realize that their reputation was shot, that everyone would be able to see through their clear incompetence.
But with Alex, he's protected from that.
He's been an embarrassing liar so regularly for so long that his audience has essentially been self-selected to be people who don't hold that against him or can't see through it.
Yeah.
unidentified
He's free to lie.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Right.
The stories are fake, but the radicalization is real.
That's difficult.
It's something that you wish you could just laugh at, like, ah, you believe that stupid fake post, and then that solves everything, but it doesn't.
jordan holmes
It doesn't matter that Trump admitted to killing 200,000 people.
It just doesn't matter.
They just don't care.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a bummer.
jordan holmes
They just hate the left.
They just hate the left.
That's it.
That's all they've got.
dan friesen
It does seem like a lot of it.
Oh, and then the other thing that Alex is conflating in with that fake post is that weird week where Paul Joseph Watson discovered impregnation porn, the fantasies and role-playing.
jordan holmes
That's right, I remember that one now.
dan friesen
And he wrote a big fake angry article about it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What are we doing?
dan friesen
Found a weird Reddit post that he decided to turn into a cultural panic.
jordan holmes
Kink-shaming five people is going to really teach us all.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, we get to a little bit of COVID talk, my man.
And Alex is straight up just still making stuff up.
alex jones
And if you look at the flu numbers all over the world, they're no longer counting flu numbers.
In Europe and Japan and China and here, they all call it COVID-19.
This is completely synthetic.
This is a scam.
This is a power grab.
There's an article out called The Emperor's New Clothes from Tablet Magazine dealing with a Chinese scientist in Hong Kong who worked with the WHO who saw the evidence that it was man-made and that it came out of Wuhan on purpose.
And again, she's being censored everywhere.
dan friesen
What Alex is saying about influenza just isn't true.
What he's doing is he's taking a talking point he's established and then embellishing it to make things up.
The old talking point is that there are no cases of the flu getting reported, which Alex used to report that it was because they are just saying that all these flu cases are being called COVID-19.
In reality, it was because the flu season in the United States had ended, so the CDC stopped posting updates on the totals.
Alex has repeated that lie enough times that his audience has accepted it, so now it's time to take it to the next level, which is to say that around the world there are no cases of the flu being reported because they're all just calling it COVID-19.
I'm certain that Alex is just making that up because if you take any time at all, you can find the surveillance monitoring update from the World Health Organization dated September 14th, 2020, reflecting data up to September 1st.
Generally speaking, in our region, flu season starts to pick up in October, so you wouldn't expect to see large numbers of cases yet at this point that the data is up to.
The report shows that the number of samples returning positive for influenza are at a lower level than what would have been predicted, but the most likely explanation for that is, quote, Another consideration that's given is that,
quote, It's important to remember that the very actions that people are taking to minimize the spread of COVID-19 will likely also have the result of lowering the spread of influenza, so there's a decent chance that when it's all said and done, this may end up being lower flu rates this year than in past years.
It's possible.
At this stage, it's really hard to predict This World Health Organization report is pretty clear that there are cases of influenza being tracked.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but they made those cases up in response to Alex revealing that they...
Must have.
That's why they did it, Dan.
dan friesen
In the past?
jordan holmes
They had to create a new narrative to combat his narrative.
dan friesen
Time-traveling scientists.
jordan holmes
No, it makes perfect sense.
I like it.
dan friesen
Epidemiologists.
So apparently some cases of influenza A viruses that are being watched right now in Cambodia, for instance.
All this information is readily available, but it's much easier just to make stuff up that fits your storyline, so that's what Alex is doing.
Also, that article in Tablet called The Emperor's New Clothes that was published on September 22nd has nothing to do with COVID-19 or even China.
jordan holmes
Well, that's an issue.
dan friesen
It's a piece applauding Trump's handling of the Middle East, written by a guy named Michael Doran, who happens to be a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and thus a globalist.
It seems like Alex would have a really hard time explaining that, so I guess he's just pretending it's an article about the virus being from a lab in China, and he knows deep down that it doesn't matter.
His audience is never gonna check.
There's no consequences for him saying an article is about something completely unrelated.
Yeah, total bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, not only are there no consequences, he is rewarded by not having to deal with all of the other bullshit around it.
Yeah, that's easier.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, uh, Alex is mad because he has some videos of apparently some Black Lives Matter protesters or something.
I don't even, I don't know.
Apparently they said some mean things to white people.
jordan holmes
Oh, hey, quick update.
Real, real quick.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Uh, did the world end on September 20th?
dan friesen
Uh, Eddie Page was wrong.
unidentified
Oh, shit!
dan friesen
I know.
jordan holmes
All right, well, next time.
dan friesen
Sorry to disappoint you.
jordan holmes
Next time.
dan friesen
Yeah, um, so, they've been saying some mean things to white people, right?
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And Alex is mad about that, but...
Not so mad that he doesn't get distracted by something really tiny and then go off in a completely random direction.
alex jones
And then now there's just so many Black Lives Matter videos of horrible, evil, dumbed-down, mindless people, black, white, you name it, coming up and just saying the most racist, horrible people, horrible things to white people.
It's just so sad to see this division and so sad to see the backlash of...
White's becoming radicalized and the globalists just playing us all off against each other.
It's so sad.
Soros is the main guy funding all of this, but he's just the front guy.
They're so evil.
And this is the Democratic Party and this is the globalists that are bringing in all the Islamists to Europe and then making it against the law to report on the different crimes and things that they are committing.
There's this little Velcro thing on this headpiece.
It's driving me crazy.
It reminds me during the break to take it off.
It's just like hanging down on my back.
jordan holmes
It drives me nuts.
alex jones
I wore a t-shirt today.
I didn't wear my normal sports jacket and stuff because we were going to go for like an 8-mile hike this morning at 6 a.m. in the dark.
And we took a wrong turn.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
We were arguing with the GPS and said we didn't go this way.
We didn't go that way.
We went a couple miles out of the way.
So we went basically hiking like 10 miles, some of it, you know, bouldering and going through the woods at night.
And man, my sciatica.
Which doesn't hit a lot, but it did hit.
It's just flamethrower pain.
dan friesen
Okay.
I thought that when you got on arrow, your pain went away.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Alright.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I find it difficult to listen to somebody just be like, oh, they're trying to bring in minorities to destroy the...
It's Velcro.
You know what?
I'm wearing a shirt and it's because I went hiking this morning and boy, does my back hurt because I walked on some boulders.
Fuck you.
jordan holmes
Isn't that such a microcosm of just like, all of your petty bullshit is what you care about.
I don't want to wear a mask, not people are dying in the street.
I don't want to wear a mask, me!
dan friesen
It's clear that he'd rather talk about going on a hike and wearing a shirt instead of his blazer than repeat the same standard talking points about his xenophobia over and over and over again.
Even he's tired of this shit.
I'd rather hear about that hike, too.
jordan holmes
He went bouldering?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Was that difficult?
Were they tall bouldering?
dan friesen
For him, it probably is.
jordan holmes
I've never gone hiking in Austin.
dan friesen
I wish Alex would talk about that hike.
jordan holmes
Yeah, me too.
Instead of basically saying, like...
What I'm really mad about is that black people are intruding upon my perfect little white world where I don't have to think about how all the consequences of my actions disproportionately affect those with less money than me.
dan friesen
He probably wouldn't put it that way.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he probably wouldn't put it that way.
dan friesen
So, Jordan.
jordan holmes
Yes?
dan friesen
I remember that we were laughing not too long ago, probably earlier this month, about Alex declaring libertarianism stupid.
jordan holmes
It was.
dan friesen
And Alex would like to clarify.
Sure.
jordan holmes
Ron Paul!
dan friesen
He's concerned about clarifying a statement that I've not heard anybody else bring up.
alex jones
You know, a quote I gave a few weeks ago was taken out of context.
I said, listening to big libertarian establishment heritage foundation type propaganda isn't real libertarianism.
When the rest of the world economies are rigged.
And so when we're libertarian and open up, they exploit us and use that against us.
And so one of the dumbest things I ever did was being a pure libertarian.
And that's why the big banks and people did fund that libertarian movement to make us all a bunch of schmucks and not protect our markets.
dan friesen
Ah, so you're saying that you didn't mean that it was stupid to be a libertarian.
You're saying it was stupid to be a libertarian and...
That the Tea Party was astroturfed.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Okay, cool.
unidentified
Yeah, we know.
jordan holmes
All right, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You've clarified your statement.
jordan holmes
We got it.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm pretty sure we already all knew that, didn't we?
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
He clarifies a little more here.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
alex jones
So I was taking it out of context that I hate all libertarians.
No, no, I get the social issues with libertarians.
I get the mutual agreement not to initiate aggression.
I think a lot of libertarian ideas are fantastic.
They're very Americana, but in function...
jordan holmes
Are they?
alex jones
And with the party itself and who they are, they're a bunch of leftists at the top of it that have endorsed the COVID lockdowns and all the rest of it, and they just support the complete collapse of this country.
So, we're in a war.
dan friesen
Something I find really funny is that Alex is so dumb that the only part of libertarianism that he seems to be in favor of is the part that's completely untenable.
jordan holmes
I was gonna say!
dan friesen
Yeah.
The non-aggression principle is internally inconsistent and entirely impossible to implement in the real world.
That's the easiest thing to dismiss from libertarian thinking, but Alex is so unaware of what the ideology he used to champion even means that that's all he can come up with.
It's just this bumper sticker level idea.
He's not a depth guy.
jordan holmes
Also, can you be a little...
Isn't it part of the libertarian philosophy that you're all in with libertarianism?
You can't be like, I'm a libertarian, but I do love socialism for the wealthy.
dan friesen
His fucking identity was libertarianism.
That is so silly for him.
jordan holmes
That's pathetic.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I tried to search for some kind of a backlash to Alex saying that being an economic libertarian was the stupidest thing he's ever done, but I couldn't find any.
There weren't any tweets that came up when I searched for Alex Jones libertarian, and as far as I can tell, there wasn't any big message board uproar.
This is something that he said back on his show on September 3rd.
And unless he's repeated it, you know, in an episode that I missed, that's the only time that it's come up.
jordan holmes
I mean, I guess he's behind on our episodes.
I think that's totally reasonable.
Yeah, because a lot of listening.
dan friesen
I went back to that episode on band.video and there isn't a lot of anger about what Alex said in the comments.
A lot of anti-Semitism.
jordan holmes
Sure, well, yeah.
dan friesen
The libertarian comment is, there's like one guy who pushes back saying, hey, it's not dumb to be a libertarian, but it's not angry.
I've heard no one other than us discuss this.
jordan holmes
I'm telling you, he's behind.
dan friesen
It's not proof of anything, but it's a fucking weird clarification for him to be making.
I would assume that maybe it's a situation where, like, some of his weirdo friends are like, hey, Meredith's not cool.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it could have been.
dan friesen
Yeah, G. Edward Griffin gave him a talking to or something.
jordan holmes
I'm a little bit libertarian, but I do want my life to be dominated by the market.
I'm a little bit libertarian, but I do want cops to be able to murder people with no reason, you know, and no consequences.
dan friesen
I'm a half-sovereign citizen.
So Alex gets into, like, you know, hey, you should have some vitamins.
You should have some minerals.
Yeah.
And he's just, I don't know, I would describe this as killing time.
alex jones
How many essential vitamins and minerals are there?
jordan holmes
Four.
alex jones
Where they know within six months you die.
jordan holmes
Ten.
alex jones
A cold comes by, you die.
I forget the exact number, but there's...
jordan holmes
Eighteen?
alex jones
Was it 20-something vitamins?
jordan holmes
Ooh, that was close.
alex jones
It's more than a dozen minerals, isn't it?
I mean, let's see if I'm right.
jordan holmes
Yes, let's.
alex jones
Let's see if I'm right.
Let's just go from memory.
How many vitamins?
Just type in how many vitamins and how many minerals are essential, and essential means for living.
And look, I know I got hundreds of articles and hundreds of clubs.
And I got guests coming up, and I hear phone calls.
Why am I saying this every hour on the hour?
Because this will save lives, ladies and gentlemen.
This will absolutely save lives.
All right.
I like to take them all, but it says 13 essential vitamins.
Okay.
I thought all 20-something were essential.
jordan holmes
There's only 20?
alex jones
How many minerals are essential?
Again, who knows who's even saying this?
jordan holmes
What?
Why are we doing this?
Google it and give me whatever the first result says.
unidentified
Why are we doing this?
jordan holmes
Just Google it, give me whatever the...
I'm not going to do any research myself.
dan friesen
This is my favorite game that gets played on Alex's show from time to time, which is they're like, let's see if my memory is good.
And then he'll have somebody look, like one of his interns look it up, and then he'll...
Either be like, yep, I was right, or he'll reject whatever comes up.
Who said that?
I don't know.
Who said that?
You only need 13 minerals.
jordan holmes
I do like every time he said, let's see if my memory is true.
He is wrong!
dan friesen
No, he's been right a couple times.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Maybe I just don't play those.
jordan holmes
All right, fair enough.
dan friesen
They're less fun than this, like, ah, yeah, fuck, fuck, fuck whoever wrote that blog post.
You need all the vitamins.
jordan holmes
What are you talking about?
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, of course, it's just to, like, sell his wares.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
And he gets into a weird, like, mid-hour ad pitch here that I just feel like he's trying to pump himself up and it's just not working.
alex jones
I'm your host, Alex Jones.
We're going to go right to your calls here in a moment and cover a ton of vital news and information.
And Dr. Joseph Mercola will join us in Hour 3, ahead of investigative journalist John Rabobort.
This is the Infowar, and we stand for humanity and justice and truth, and we are winning.
All right.
Let me just throw this out there at you.
Two things.
We've extended it for another four or five days, and then they are going to end it.
It's the highest quality storable food at the lowest prices.
dan friesen
That is uninspiring.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's no good.
dan friesen
But he did try with the, we are winning!
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then just the energy went out of the...
jordan holmes
He just realized we're not.
dan friesen
That's why you've got to do it at the going out to commercial, not coming in.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
No, you can't.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex has got this storable food, but I think something smells here, and it's not just rotting storing food.
jordan holmes
Nice.
alex jones
But they have rules because they have other suppliers that they can't go beneath a certain point because it undercuts the market.
Unless they're doing a special promo themselves.
And so we did it on their website at preparewithalex.com.
That's a subdomain of My Patriot Supply's website.
dan friesen
So that's really interesting to me, that URL.
jordan holmes
Preparewithalex.com.
dan friesen
The existence of that URL indicates to me a change in the status quo.
Something about the relationship between Alex and My Patriot Supply looks like it's changed.
And from the external appearance of it, it looks...
You know, like something you might see when a partnership is getting scaled back.
Having a URL like PrepareWithAlex is basically the same thing as Alex doing a commercial for MyPatriotSupply.
He's directing people to that website, and that's how MyPatriotSupply is able to track the business and purchases that are prompted by Alex's ads.
And then they figure out what that's worth to pay him for his advertising time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he gets like an affiliate link and all that shit.
dan friesen
This and ad-specific promo codes are two really widespread ways that these things are handled by businesses.
MyPatriotSupply has a pattern of giving their pitch persons URLs that are preparewithx.com.
Ben Shapiro promotes PrepareWithBen.com, which redirects to a My Patriot Supply landing page where Ben Shapiro tries to sell you food.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Then there's PrepareWithDave.com, which takes you to a My Patriot Supply landing page for David Hodges, another right-wing talker who hosts the horrific Common Sense show.
Or PrepareWithGary, which takes you to a landing page where Gary Franchi tries to sell you food buckets.
Franchi is a lunatic Trump fan who does a YouTube show called The Next News Network.
Or you can go to Prepare with Dan, and it's not mine.
But you can take advantage of a really good limited-time-only deal on MyPatriotSupply food buckets brought to you by Dan Bongino.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
I bet we could get one of those.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
I'll put it on Prepare with Jordan, since Prepare with Dan has already taken.
dan friesen
I am positive you could get one.
unidentified
Oh, you think so?
dan friesen
And I don't want you to.
jordan holmes
Okay.
I'm just saying.
dan friesen
But you could go to my favorite of them, which is preparewithglenn.com.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Where Glenn Beck sells you the exact same food buckets that Alex does.
jordan holmes
Wow, that is sad.
unidentified
It is.
jordan holmes
That's really sad.
dan friesen
It's very sad.
jordan holmes
That should be more widely aware of, like, if you're advertising in the same way Alex Jones is.
dan friesen
The same company.
jordan holmes
Yeah, with the same company, you just get taken down.
dan friesen
Dan Bongino, Ben Shapiro, Glenn Beck, tons of others.
Like, last night, I just got into a hole where I was preparing with whoever.
jordan holmes
You weren't even looking for actual names.
You were just typing in the license plate things at a tourist guide.
dan friesen
More or less.
If you search for prepare with Greg, I think it is that it takes you to some...
I don't even know who the fucking dude's name is.
It's someone like J-R-E-G, but the URL is spelled with a G-R-E-G.
jordan holmes
Well, you're not going to get people to remember it's a J. It's some guy from YouTube.
dan friesen
I don't know who it is, but his picture is him pointing to a silver plaque that YouTube sends you when you get a certain amount of subscribers.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out.
dan friesen
And he's trying to sell you food buckets.
unidentified
Some YouTube guy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, I mean, like, this is just what My Patriot Supply does.
They have these landing pages.
They have pretend limited-time-only deals that all these people direct their sales to, and then, you know, it is what it is.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
It's really hard to say exactly what's going on here, but this is the sort of thing you'd expect to see if Alex were scaling back.
I'm sure the arrangements he's had with My Patriot Supply before were far more entwined or his sales system fed into their back end, as he described it.
While Alex wouldn't have been shipping any of the food or anything, he'd still be processing payments, whereas this arrangement would just be Alex having an affiliate page on MyPatriotSupply, and it would facilitate a system where his only real involvement is trying to direct traffic to that landing page and then getting paid a cut, which would be a better system for him.
I wonder if that's what he's doing.
Anyway, it's really sad that he's been promoting Prepare with Alex, because...
Now he is just Ben Shapiro.
jordan holmes
See, but now I want...
dan friesen
With my Patriots play.
jordan holmes
I want videos of him doing, like, a fucking paint-with-me show.
I want him to do the Bob Ross of preparation shows, where he's just, like, standing there, and he's like, here's one of the things you're gonna need.
Put this in the box, and then we'll put our storable food in over here.
dan friesen
Hey, Jordan, I know when you get into canning, they tell you to boil the jars.
Don't do it.
jordan holmes
See, I would love...
unidentified
I love that!
jordan holmes
That'd be great!
That'd be great!
dan friesen
That'd be so much better!
jordan holmes
Yeah, but who cares?
Why are you preparing with Alex in the first place?
dan friesen
I mean, I guess if you look at it as a farce, then maybe it would be worthwhile.
jordan holmes
That'd be great.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, Alex, boy, I'll tell you what, we're in for some bad times.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
Once they've got robots tuning the fields, once they've got...
Robot cars driving up and down the roads.
Once Amazon has hundred-story buildings with thousands of drones flying out an hour, delivering everything because we're non-essential, and because of lockdowns, because of the flu or other viruses, then we've been taught that we're non-essential.
Then they can morally get us, they say, to sign on to giving up our rights to not have children or become sterilized or sterilize our children to get credits.
So that's one phase of this.
But they debate whether they go into that phase and just sterilize us and drug us out and kind of slowly phase us out over the next 50 years, or get the control grid, get the robots in place, have a bunch of smaller lockdowns to train us to stay in place so when the big one hits, we stay in our houses and we die.
And a lot of the intel is they're going to use electromagnetics to actually kill us.
We'll think it's a bioweapon while we're dying, and they'll just move down the different paths with the electromagnetics, telling us it'll be carried out by things like robot trash trucks.
And you'll just think it's robot trash trucks going around.
But really, they're going to have high energy weapons loaded up in the top, frying you and your family.
And then when you die in a few weeks, the same trash trucks are going to pull up and robots will unload out of the back and then go get your dead bodies and put you in bags and then take you out and throw you into the back.
jordan holmes
That's an efficient system.
dan friesen
Okay, so a couple things real quick.
The first thing that strikes me is how Alex is literally incapable of imagining that humans have value outside of work.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
He conceives of his enemies as being people who are going to bring in robots to do the work, and then humans will have to be killed off because they no longer are needed to do the work that the robots are now doing.
Who's to say that that has to be how things operate?
I would suggest that it might actually be easier to readjust society to decouple a person's value from their job than it would be to go around and send electromagnetic trash trucks to kill everyone.
And then collect everybody with robots.
Also, I really, really think that Alex was just traumatized by seeing the Soylent Green movie poster when he was a child.
jordan holmes
Something.
dan friesen
Also, I went and I watched the Soylent Green trailer.
I mean, Alex is getting a lot of this from Soylent Green.
But, like, it's amazing.
Those trailers for old movies, they just, they are so in-depth.
Why would you see the movie after that?
I watched it, it was just basically the whole movie.
jordan holmes
Most people didn't watch trailers, then?
dan friesen
I mean, spoilers for Soylent Green.
It's people.
jordan holmes
It is people.
dan friesen
That's the only thing they don't tell you in the trailer.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, that's great.
That's good.
unidentified
It's like, this is blank, the character.
jordan holmes
That's great.
unidentified
He's a no-nonsense kind of cop until he's not.
jordan holmes
Yeah, trailers used to be like a literal, like the opening crawl, explaining everybody, and then it's like, okay, now you can go see the movie.
dan friesen
Five minutes long, and it's like, here's the plot.
jordan holmes
See, now that's way better!
Imagine if the trailer for Spider-Man actually just showed you the whole backstory.
And then they made the better movie.
They just moved on.
dan friesen
I think this only can be effective in movies where there is one thing that the whole movie hinges on, like, Soylent Green is people.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, Robert Downey Jr. is Iron Man.
We could do that one.
dan friesen
That's not a big reveal at the end.
jordan holmes
Yes, it is.
He says it.
Nobody knew it.
dan friesen
It's really tough to do that style of trailer, but I was blown away by how fucked up it would be if trailers today were like that.
unidentified
Just Bruce Willis being like, I'm a ghost!
jordan holmes
And then the end of trailer.
dan friesen
No, because it would be everything but that.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
I was amused.
Anyway, Alex just is talking about Silent Green.
So there are a ton of problems with the plan that he has that the globalists have.
jordan holmes
I don't see any.
dan friesen
The first is that these robot trash trucks are, where are they going to take all the people?
If you consider the population of even medium-sized cities, you're talking about hundreds of thousands of bodies that you need to dispose of, which is a comically large job.
But I guess the robots could run robot incinerators or something.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
I mean, if you've got, like, a kill-you-in-two-weeks raise on the garbage cans, you've probably got an incinerator with them.
dan friesen
Right.
How long do these electromagnetic waves take to kill you from these trash trucks?
jordan holmes
I don't know if we know that yet.
We know the robots are coming with their trash trucks.
We don't know the specs on their murder.
dan friesen
Would you need to hit, like, an entire city at the same time?
And if so, you'd need a fleet of, like, thousands and thousands of trash trucks.
jordan holmes
I think you gotta do it in waves.
That way you save money and you make the system more efficient.
You know, you take a block here or there and you just wipe the block out.
And no one will ask questions if an entire block is just dead.
dan friesen
Aren't some people not going to be killed and then be like, huh, my entire block died.
What are these robot trash trucks coming back for?
I think there's some problems with this.
jordan holmes
There could be.
dan friesen
I think it's a little stupid.
jordan holmes
I imagine if there is somebody who doesn't die, the robot trash trucks will just kill them anyways and throw them into the incinerator.
So why not just throw everyone into an incinerator?
dan friesen
You ask a great question.
jordan holmes
That's a great question.
dan friesen
But here's my favorite problem with the theory.
jordan holmes
Sure, what's your favorite problem?
dan friesen
If the globalists plan on killing everyone, they don't need robots working fields or driving cars or any of that shit.
jordan holmes
Why not?
dan friesen
According to Alex, there are very, very few globalists who will survive this purge, so their food needs will be minimal, certainly not to the point where they need to have any actual agricultural production.
Also, their plan is supposed to be to download their brains into silicon bodies and merge with machines, so at that point they don't even need food.
The thing that the globalists are apparently waiting on to wipe everyone out is actually a thing they would only need to work toward developing if everyone were to stay alive.
The only reason to create more efficient agricultural systems is to feed more people.
The only reason to create automated driverless cars is to manage giant numbers of commuters more safely and reduce traffic.
Amazon doesn't need tons of drones making deliveries if there aren't a huge consumer base there who's buying things that need to be delivered.
All the things that Alex sees as signs of the globalists are about to wipe people out really only make sense as ways to better survive in a world with a growing population.
What I'm getting at is Alex is stupid.
Therefore, the plans he imagines his enemy is having are also incredibly stupid.
This is just childish levels of idiocy masquerading as studied truth, and it's just fucking sad.
jordan holmes
His plans only make sense if we are to become serfs.
Then it's like, oh, we have to have people making the food.
dan friesen
But no, they're gonna kill us all!
jordan holmes
Well, no, but if they kill us...
See, that's what I'm saying!
It doesn't make any sense if they're gonna kill us all!
Right!
What if they...
Okay.
Maybe they're going to replace us with robot people.
dan friesen
That need food?
jordan holmes
That need food!
Maybe the only way...
Biofuels!
That's the only way to keep the AI from turning all of us into their food, Matrix-style.
So we have to trick them into thinking they need food.
dan friesen
They should just use this as biofuel.
jordan holmes
Why would they?
We're not an efficient source of biofuel!
unidentified
First round, yeah, but that means just take the trees or whatever the fuck.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Look, this is stupid.
This is dumb.
jordan holmes
You just aren't willing to really workshop the globalists.
dan friesen
I just think that anybody who would concoct plans along the lines of what Alex is talking about would probably come up with some sort of a robot that doesn't need food.
That's my guess.
jordan holmes
It does seem like...
dan friesen
When you're looking at the specs, that would be something I'm like, let's see if we can work around that one.
Design flaw.
jordan holmes
All of his evil villain plans, I think, come from the 1950s TV show The Avengers or whatever, because all of their evil villain plans were...
Like, even the movie with Sean Connery, it's just like, wait, so you built a weather machine and you're going to do what with it?
dan friesen
I'm going to sell you weather.
jordan holmes
Why?
What?
That seems unreasonable.
People are going to come after you.
You can't own the weather.
You're just a guy!
dan friesen
So, Alex is also just a guy.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But he has also conquered the devil.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
alex jones
Now, they're so pissed on their timelines because of what I've done and what others have done, exposing the timeline of this, that they're going to have real problems executing this.
jordan holmes
Yes, they will.
alex jones
They know that they're going to end up getting fished out of their holes by whoever's left and are not going to escape justice.
And that's really our mission is to make them understand.
jordan holmes
But that's why we have the robots.
alex jones
They're not going to get away.
The problem is they have a plan B. More robots?
unidentified
And that's the issue.
alex jones
Here's the deal.
We've cornered these people.
jordan holmes
Have you?
alex jones
And they may just skip to the end and release a super bio-weapon early.
They were planning to straightjacket us and train us to be slaves.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
Orderly.
They want it to be orderly.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
alex jones
Kill us and have us kind of buy into it.
Change and acclimate, you know, have a few years to get ready and take our vaccines and take our tracker chips and everything.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
But I realize, and I've been watching them closely, that I think we may have pushed them just to go to the endgame right away and release the weapons.
So just remember who killed you and your family.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Because some of you are going to survive.
And then at that point, you're going to need to carry out justice.
jordan holmes
Don't rebuild society.
alex jones
I wish we could stop these people.
dan friesen
This is the stupidest shit I've ever heard.
If you take Alex seriously, he's saying that the dumb work he's done in his career has been so dangerous to the machinations of the literal Christian devil that the literal Christian devil's timeline has been screwed up.
old timeline.
The devil had planned to kill everyone, but for a few years, we'd all get vaccines and tracker chips or whatever, and then we'd all get killed.
The end goal is to kill everyone, but as Alex explains, based on literally nothing except his imagination, the devil's minions like to do things like kill everyone in the world in an orderly fashion.
jordan holmes
I mean, you've read the Bible.
That's how they work.
dan friesen
Sure.
We all know that in the Bible there's plan A, plan B. Of course.
jordan holmes
No, there's plans within plans.
dan friesen
This is an absurd piece of nonsense.
Basically, it's an adolescent mind writing a Bond movie where the villain is the devil.
So, Alex has screwed up the devil's timeline, so now his minions are going to release this superpower bioweapon that they already have, and actually they'd have no use for in their original plans.
His super bioweapon is their plan B, but of course some of Alex's listeners will survive, which brings us to the dystopian hellscape filled with justified justice murders that Alex spends his free time fantasizing about.
jordan holmes
Has it never occurred to him that his theory that he is defeating the devil, the literal Christian devil, Is in and of itself very blasphemous towards his religion?
Because the devil is operating on God's plan.
So you're saying that part of God's plan is to have the devil get foiled by Alex Jones.
Like, God was like, okay, devil.
This is gonna be great.
This is hilarious.
dan friesen
What if?
jordan holmes
Work on a thousand years plan.
Or whatever.
It's gonna be great.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
Do it.
It's totally gonna work.
It's totally gonna work.
And then at the fucking last minute, he's like, oh, I'm gonna bring in Alex Jones and fuck up the devil's plan.
What are you doing?
You're saying that God is weak enough to have a stupid plan like the devil!
dan friesen
It's a good goof.
jordan holmes
It is a pretty good goof.
God's a fan of goofs.
Old Testament God did a lot of goofing.
dan friesen
It's a hell of a prank.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
If God's entire plan was for Alex Jones to save the world.
jordan holmes
That would be a really good prank on not just us, but the devil, everyone.
Be fantastic.
dan friesen
So, I have a couple of important points.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
The first is that if the devil's plans can be disrupted by someone as stupid and as incompetent as Alex Jones, I'm officially not afraid of the devil at all.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
This is an underwhelming supreme evil in the universe.
jordan holmes
But that's what I'm saying!
He's operating on God's plan!
And that means God is a stupid idiot!
dan friesen
Well, I'm taking God sort of, like, as maybe, like, sort of, like, he's just, hey, hands off.
unidentified
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Just letting the devil run wild.
It's not really his plan, but sort of, like, the plan is bigger, the specific...
God's not micromanaging.
Satan is evil, right?
He's the big evil.
He's the big bad guy.
He's the Ganondorf.
Sure.
Right, right, right.
If Alex can stop Ganondorf...
I'm not worried about Ganondorf.
jordan holmes
No, I think anybody could take Ganondorf down.
dan friesen
We don't need Link.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, get him out of here.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, yeah.
No, no, no, I don't need any saviors.
If the devil causes problems, I'll just...
Talk about him a little bit.
I'll talk about his plans for a while, and then he'll be like, shit!
dan friesen
The dude from Comet Ping Pong Pizza and Hamdi Ulukaya both got public apologies from Alex because of the shit he said on his show.
jordan holmes
God, I want him to apologize to Satan.
dan friesen
No, I'm just saying, if it's that easy to conquer Alex, and Alex can conquer the devil, that's a bad devil.
jordan holmes
By the transitive property, Hamdi Ulukaya has already defeated the devil twice.
dan friesen
Right, I mean, the devil is weaker than a lawsuit, I guess.
jordan holmes
That's why contract law is so important, Dan!
dan friesen
Not scared.
Second, what Alex seems to be saying is that everything we do pretty much now is meaningless until after the apocalypse, or the killing off of pretty much everyone.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
For no reason.
Yeah.
What is the point, exactly, of Alex in this scenario?
If what he's saying is true, and it wasn't just his completely insane ramblings, then in effect, the culmination of Alex's life's work is getting everyone killed sooner.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was gonna say, all he did is, like, he didn't foil their plans, he made them petulantly go, well, fine, we're not having any fun, we'll just blow you up then.
dan friesen
So dumb.
jordan holmes
That's his goal.
To annoy the globalists so much.
Into killing everyone sooner.
Fine.
We won't even bother with the vaccines.
You're all just gonna die.
dan friesen
Yeah, it almost, like, one of the things I was thinking about while I was preparing this episode is, like, how funny it is to imagine him showing these cards earlier in his career.
Like, imagining him, like, trying to go to, like, Occupy for, like, an Ed the Fed rally or something like that.
Yeah, yeah.
All right, now hear me out.
The literal devil.
He has a timeline.
I've been screwing up that timeline, and they're gonna come around with electromagnetic garbage trucks with robots to kill you.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
I would prefer to go so much further back.
Just be like, 9-11 was an inside job.
With Satan!
Just keep on going, man.
dan friesen
Also, here's a great pitch for Alex.
Like, let's say, back in 1998, 99, 2000.
unidentified
Quit.
jordan holmes
Hey, guys.
dan friesen
Hey, my career is going to involve me yelling at you and making you scared of a whole bunch of things.
And you give me a bunch of money and we'll make it work.
jordan holmes
That'd be great.
dan friesen
But I should tell you this now.
A couple years into my career.
Even if everything goes according to plan and we pull this off perfectly, we will all be killed by the globalists because they have a plan B. Yeah.
We are only trying to avert plan A. Can't do shit about plan B. Sorry.
Kind of think he'd have less traction.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If he didn't present himself as someone who actually has a fucking shot of...
Stopping the killing of billions.
jordan holmes
I think this is probably the best evidence of the end of his career, is where we're at.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, there's no other cards.
jordan holmes
There's nowhere to go.
dan friesen
You don't want to do this kind of inevitable, well, shit's going down, there's a plan B. And after we do, everyone does die, you will need to come out and execute justice.
Yeah, I mean, because, like, let's say a year from now, all this, like, the end of the world hasn't happened, right?
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
It's pretty embarrassing to look back on.
jordan holmes
A little bit.
dan friesen
This is tough.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, like, Jade Helm's embarrassing.
Right.
Sandy Hook, Boston bombing, those are really embarrassing things in Alex's career to look back on, but, you know, somehow he's able to, you know, whatever.
This is bigger.
This is real.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is Doomsday Cult.
Once the Doomsday has passed, you've got, I think, what, like two more times to Doomsday.
In most Doomsday cults...
dan friesen
It's diminishing returns, too.
jordan holmes
It is diminishing returns, but you missed the Doomsday the first day around.
Enough people are going to stick with you that you can go for a second Doomsday.
I think Doomsday Cult's usually good at second Doomsday.
dan friesen
Yeah, but that's like Ron Paul running in 2012.
jordan holmes
Sure, that's true.
dan friesen
People were excited in 2008.
2012, like, I don't know about this.
Yeah, but if Alex, on his first run through this big Doomsday thing, is talking about...
How desperate he is for money.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It doesn't lend itself to, like, thinking, oh, I'll be able to do this again.
jordan holmes
That's true.
That is true.
dan friesen
I think it's very sad.
jordan holmes
Prepare with Alex for Alex losing his job.
dan friesen
Anyway, in this next clip, we hear about how the globalists, you know, they want to wipe everyone out.
jordan holmes
Of course they do.
dan friesen
Alex kind of does, too.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
They're going to have life extension, but you can't have it because that'd be too many people, and they just decided to wipe everybody out, and...
You know, I don't agree with them, because I know they're a bunch of evil people.
They're worse than the general public.
But the general public are a bunch of self-absorbed, stupid, lazy, empty, non-giving sociopaths.
unidentified
And...
jordan holmes
No, you are.
alex jones
You are conjuring your own destruction, so...
jordan holmes
No, you are.
alex jones
It's going to be bad one way or the other.
And I just don't want to be negative here, but lying to you would be even more negative.
So just get ready.
jordan holmes
Really?
alex jones
Things are never going to be the same.
And if we can hold them back, maybe we've got 10, 15, 20 years.
But I don't think so.
I think the killing's about to start.
I think they're going to start killing everybody.
So get ready.
And all you leftists, get ready for your bosses to kill you.
dan friesen
Good thing I don't have a boss!
Self-employed!
jordan holmes
I think that means our listeners are going to send bombs to us?
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
So that clip is the kind of thing that if I were Alex, I would take great pains to never say that kind of thing into a microphone.
That sort of mentality just really makes it too clear that when he's talking about what the globalists think of the general population or the common person, he's talking about what he thinks.
He hates everyone and thinks that they deserve the culling that he imagines the globalists are preparing.
Alex hates normal people because they don't share his delusions.
He hates people like you and me because we don't see the same patterns and disconnected things that he does.
He hates us because, according to him, our inability to read the codes he imagines he's reading are the only thing that's allowing the literal Christian devil to come into power and destroy the world.
Yeah.
Alex hates the general population to the point where he thinks that they deserve the extinction event that his imaginary enemies have planned.
He says stuff like this, and I pretty much always hear it as if it was the first time he said it.
Because we've heard him say stuff like that before.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah.
dan friesen
Even for me, it's so shocking that he would come on his show and say that his mission is to fight the globalist plans, but also that their plan might not be so bad if they didn't suck themselves.
That's a fine position, like when someone wants to go get tacos for dinner, but you don't like them.
In that case, the plan itself could be appealing, but you don't like the idea because you don't want to go get tacos with a guy you don't like.
In this case, the plan, though, is killing billions of people.
The problem with the plan is not who's doing it, it's the killing billions of people part.
The plan itself is bad, and Alex should not be wishy-washy on that point.
It just kind of invalidates his entire argument about being against the globalist depopulation thing.
He's not against it, he just has some notes on who should be killed.
Yeah, totally.
jordan holmes
No, I don't think the GOP is quite as aware as the rest of us are that they agree more with ISIS than the rest of us do.
They just want a different god.
Like, that's...
You guys agree with ISIS.
You guys are on the same team here.
You're just on, like, we want to be on the other side of the apocalypse.
dan friesen
Alex's villains just, he has some tweaks.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
That's such a bummer.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, that's what becomes really clear when he says stuff like that.
The general population does deserve what's coming to them.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
So petulant and childish.
And it really makes clear that, oh, yeah, you're projecting a whole lot here.
Because as much as I hate what political discourse has become, and I dislike Trump being in office, and what the GOP has become, and how ineffective the left is, or Democrats in particular.
I still would never wish death on the general population.
I want to improve things.
I do think it's a challenge, and I think that maybe it's a challenge that won't be realized in our lifetime.
Sure.
But I don't think that there's any other answer than working towards something being better.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Instead, Alex just pouts and is like, no, general public does deserve for everyone to die, because no one...
unidentified
Seize the code that I do, except Leo Zagami.
jordan holmes
Well, if you look at the way his globalists are acting because of him, they have gotten rid of the other parts of the plan, and they're just going to kill everybody.
And it sounds like he's just annoyed them into skipping the fun part of the plan and then killing everybody.
And it seems like the way he's responding there is he's very annoyed at everybody.
And he doesn't want to do all of that bullshit anymore.
So he wants everybody to die.
There's something similar to the globalist mood and Alex's mood.
It seems very...
dan friesen
I'm going to quote you.
I don't know what you're saying.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
unidentified
I don't get what you're saying.
jordan holmes
All right, fine.
Fair enough.
Okay.
dan friesen
So Alex finally has some calls.
He takes some calls.
And this guy, boy.
unidentified
I've got a thing I do myself.
You know, I'm a hard-working blue-collar man.
I call it the white-collar movement.
I take the three-packet white t-shirts and a Sharpie, and I write things.
I have one, We the People Matter, 1776, with a greater than, 1984, or COVID-1984.
I'm telling you, those three on top of your shirt, that's the one I'm wearing right now.
dan friesen
I hate to be a dick, but this collar is all over the place.
First problem, the white shirts he's using for his white collar movement don't have collars.
Second problem, unless he's a teen at a punk show, he probably looks like a complete lunatic walking around in an undershirt with InfoWars slogans written on it with a sharpie.
jordan holmes
I think I would immediately trust a real estate agent if they were like, I'm going to show you this house.
First, have you seen this t-shirt?
dan friesen
You bet, yeah.
Looking good.
jordan holmes
Looking great, dude.
unidentified
Hey, where can I buy one of those?
jordan holmes
Free with every purchase of a home.
dan friesen
That collar sucked.
But this next collar really made me really sad.
Because in the same way that a lot of the times the stories Alex is telling are fake, the consequences are real.
This collar...
If a real person, which I have no reason to think they aren't, represents some of the real effects that Alex has on people.
unidentified
I'm a first-time caller, so bear with me.
alex jones
Oh, welcome!
unidentified
God bless you, Alex.
This is my personal opinion.
I want to get that out there.
I'm a simple person, and I have autoimmune hepatitis.
I'm 58. And, you know, in April, I was so afraid.
You know, I was sane inside.
Dan, I'm listening to you, and thank you so much.
You started to talk about the vitamin D, zinc C. And, you know, one time I said, you know, I can't take this anymore.
I went out.
I went grocery shopping and all.
You know, and I've been fine.
It's fine.
You know, I meet people.
dan friesen
I just...
This is horrible.
jordan holmes
That's one of those, like, literally, what's her name?
If she dies of COVID, Alex killed her.
dan friesen
I mean, based on what she's saying, yes.
She was taking it seriously in April and was scared and concerned.
Hopefully that fear was more in terms of careful cautiousness as opposed to terrified fear.
jordan holmes
Let's hope.
dan friesen
But, yeah, taking it seriously in April.
And then I listened to you.
You talked about vitamins.
I mean, it's fine.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no.
dan friesen
And, I mean...
You can be irresponsible a number of times, and you can get lucky, and that doesn't mean that the irresponsible behavior isn't still going to be the thing that could bite you in the ass in the end.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's really unfortunate to hear someone who calls, because for her, it's unfortunate.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's unfortunate for the people who are in her life, who obviously care about her.
And then it's unfortunate for what she represents, because this is one caller.
It's certainly not the only person who fits these descriptions in Alex's audience.
And then, even on top of that, there's another layer that is the other people who are listening to her testimonial, who are like, oh, this is a 58-year-old person with an immunocompromised issue.
Yeah, what's the big deal?
She's the most vulnerable.
She goes out, she's fine.
And we'll never know if she has any consequences or any health issues because she is just someone who called into Alex's show.
We'll never know.
He'll never know.
He doesn't care.
It's just dark.
jordan holmes
That is fucking dark.
Because we've said, you know, like, oh, you can't directly attribute this, but by her own words, if she dies, Alex killed her.
dan friesen
It's a pretty...
I think it would be an interesting case to try on a civil level.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But yeah, that really depressed me.
Anyway, speaking of things that are depressing, Dr. Mercola, Joseph Mercola, anti-vax weirdo, is on.
He comes on for the third hour.
And I was gonna just skip this, but he goes hard.
First of all, this is really funny.
He's wanting to ask Alex if he's gotten his vitamin D levels checked.
Mic down for this, because Alex's response is so funny.
unidentified
This works.
And I mentioned last time, and thank you for mentioning again, the stopcovidcold.com.
No email opt-ins.
dr joseph mercola
It's not an email grab.
unidentified
It's just free information.
It's a quick quiz.
And by the way, Alex, did you ever get your vitamin D level tested?
alex jones
Wow.
Did you?
Why do you think he's been forced to do this?
dan friesen
I don't think Alex was even listening to his question.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
alex jones
Wow.
dan friesen
Why do you think he's doing this?
That's not an appropriate response to the question at all.
jordan holmes
He has no idea.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Did you get your vitamin D levels checked?
alex jones
Wow.
jordan holmes
What's new?
How you been?
dan friesen
Bad scene, partner.
jordan holmes
I had a good sandwich.
dan friesen
I do enjoy it.
jordan holmes
Earlier, earlier.
dan friesen
Now, this is, I like that moment quite a bit, but that wouldn't justify talking about Dr. Mercola.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
This does, though.
unidentified
Say you, a family, a member, a friend, or someone you care for deeply, acquires this illness, and obviously it's a little bit too late for vitamin D to do much, because you need it to be in your system for a few weeks to a few months before it really kicks in.
That's why you want to do it now, measure your tests, measure your levels.
Get a vitamin D test so you know where you're at and adjust your dosages accordingly.
But if anyone gets sick, then what do you do?
Well, that therapy I talked about is just unbelievable.
And what is it?
It's hydrogen peroxide.
dr joseph mercola
Now, you could use the cheap $1 bottle of hydrogen peroxide you get at any drugstore in the U.S. That is a commercial one that has some stabilizer.
unidentified
And it's not the ideal.
The best peroxide would be...
Cool, man.
dan friesen
Cool.
Hydrogen peroxide.
Yeah, good.
Don't do this.
If anyone's listening, don't do this.
Don't take this advice.
This is dangerous.
jordan holmes
I like that we've graduated to acid.
I do appreciate that we're not doing bleach anymore.
Come on.
What are you guys doing?
Pour acid down your fucking throats!
dan friesen
Hydrogen peroxide is...
He's not saying drink it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He's saying dilute it.
And then put it in a nebulizer and inhale it.
And he sells the nebulizers on his website, and that's all cool.
Now, I would say I don't know enough about science to know whether or not in a safe environment with an actual doctor applying, whether or not hydrogen peroxide may have some sort of medicinal benefit.
You can't, if you are Dr. Mercola...
You can't go on Infowars and tell people to get store-bought hydrogen peroxide, dilute it, and put it in a nebulizer and fucking inhale it.
You can't trust that they're going to know how to dilute something correctly?
That's so dangerous.
Alex does say, hey man, this sounds good.
alex jones
I'm just saying what you're saying makes sense.
Hydrogen peroxide kills bacteria and viruses.
Yes!
unidentified
Of course, it's well documented.
It's non-controversial.
That's what it does.
And you're putting the solution right where the fading path is.
alex jones
That's what I'm saying is we need to get this video to President Trump.
unidentified
In your sinuses and your nose.
That's why you want to use a mask.
So you get it in your nasal passages and your sinuses because that's where the infection lies too.
And your lungs.
dan friesen
Quick Mercola.
We must tell the president.
jordan holmes
You know what?
Here's what it is.
Here's what you got to do.
You got to rub.
Vicks VapoRub on your asshole, and that will protect you from COVID.
Now, I don't sell Vicks VapoRub.
You can just go get that, but I do sell an asshole applier.
So you buy one asshole applier, you dip it in the VapoRub, and you shove it up your ass, and that will cure...
dan friesen
Now, to be fair, we don't want to get sued, so...
alex jones
And you are a physician, but you're not giving medical advice or people should consult their physician?
unidentified
I mean, you have to consult with your physician, you know, or your healthcare professional.
But, I mean, realistically, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to believe that 99.9% water and.1% water.
3% hydrogen peroxide inhaling is going to cause any harm or damage.
It's almost physiologically impossible.
alex jones
But it takes out the viruses.
Let's do a few more minutes than I'm going to calls into the next hour caller to be patient.
dan friesen
That's almost indistinguishable from medical advice.
That is...
jordan holmes
Excuse me, Dr. Robinson.
I was thinking of vaping hydrogen peroxide.
Do you think that's a good idea?
dan friesen
Hell yeah, man.
Sounds radical.
jordan holmes
Sounds great, right?
I'm just going to go ahead and vape.
Poison.
dan friesen
I would love to see the look on a doctor's face.
Be like, I was listening to InfoWars and this weirdo anti-vax.
jordan holmes
Stop right there.
dan friesen
Well, see, he said that I need to dilute hydrogen peroxide.
jordan holmes
Oh my god, you are going to continue, aren't you?
Alright, keep going.
dan friesen
So you want to do it?
unidentified
Fine.
Fine.
dan friesen
I just imagine that being an episode of House.
One of the people in his clinic.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
Just him carrying a nebulizer with his little cane.
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Yeah, I applaud their desire to not get sued.
jordan holmes
You should consult.
Obviously, you should consult a physician before you vape poison.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
That's smart.
dan friesen
I'm not positive what the threshold for dangerous dilutions of hydrogen peroxide are, but I do know that I don't trust the listeners of this program.
To dilute things, possibly.
So even if he's describing an amount that wouldn't be harmful, you can't guarantee that these people are going to accurately dose things.
Because it's basically like, hey, take this household cleaner type thing, hoof it, but be sure you only hoof a little.
It's like, don't tell people that!
jordan holmes
Yeah, no kidding.
dan friesen
But also, ask your doctor.
jordan holmes
But has anybody ever not like...
Oh, well, if this works this way, I wonder if I should just smell it or even put a little on my nose.
Like, everybody's going to do stupid shit with this.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Anyway, Alex wants to be clear that he just believes this stuff.
He's not getting paid.
jordan holmes
No.
alex jones
And again, Dr. Mercola is a very successful guy.
Has his own supplement lines, his own books, all his other stuff.
He doesn't pay to come on the show.
We're very honored to have him on.
So when you hear me...
Hammering and plugging somebody else's stuff is because I don't care where you get it.
This is good information.
Just get it.
dan friesen
I don't care where you get it.
Just hoof some hydrogen oxide.
jordan holmes
Just fucking woof.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
All right.
Let's do this.
Do you have any for us to hoof right now?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
So Alex gets done with Mercola, and this is funny.
alex jones
I feel guilty like I'm disrespecting you when you sit there on hold for one guy, an hour and 41 minutes.
We're going to go to Jim and Josh and other callers.
Once you do something, you can never change.
I love the call, folks.
I love the crew.
Just when I say, from now on, let's just get a limited number of calls so I get to them, because I want to go to these calls, and I'm going to go to the calls.
Just real briefly, I'm jamming a call right now.
We have...
Winter sun with high quality vitamin D3 and K that helps with the absorption, the experts tell me.
unidentified
Love it.
alex jones
Highest quality, take it under the tongue, you get higher levels of absorption of the body.
dan friesen
It's disrespectful for me to keep you on hold for so long.
I just want to get to calls.
I want to get to calls.
I absolutely do, but here's an ad.
jordan holmes
I got to give you an ad, and we're going to go to break.
And I'm going to have to do a segment up top on the next hour.
dan friesen
With an ad.
jordan holmes
And we're going to need to do another ad on that ad.
dan friesen
And then my food sponsor's coming in.
jordan holmes
Did you know that it's the Christmas in July and September sale?
dan friesen
so he comes back and takes a call and this dude prays on air for like three minutes fuck yeah like i want why not i wanted to cut a clip of it but like i figured like i could cut a section of this but like if i played a minute of it i would tell you like hey there's two more minutes of this yeah and it almost would feel like well why not play at all i can't justify that there's no reason for that so i'll There's a long prayer.
jordan holmes
There's a long prayer.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
It was upsetting.
jordan holmes
I would like to get inside the mind of somebody who's like, you know what?
I need to call Infowars and pray on air for three minutes.
And I'm going to wait on hold for two hours to do it.
dan friesen
And listen to a guy tell me to hoof hydrogen peroxide.
jordan holmes
Oh man, that is a mind that I cannot comprehend.
dan friesen
So, we get to the 24th, and of course, over the evening of the 23rd, the news of the non-charges for the officers in Louisville had come out, and there were protests that were going around the country, and Alex got some fun videos that he gets to use.
alex jones
We've got countless videos of people saying to the cops, we're gonna effing kill you.
You know?
I'm not Mr. Tough Guy.
I don't try to be Mr. Tough Guy, but I couldn't have the restraint.
You walk up to me and say, you're going to kill me?
I take that as a threat of bodily harm.
But you see, these cities are run by Democrats, so there's no charges!
People ask why I don't go out to these events.
We went out last year when Beto O 'Rourke was giving a speech, and a couple thousand ante for the biggest crowd I've ever seen of him in Austin, go, it's Alex Jones!
Like a horde coming to go and kill him and the state police.
Had to come stop them, and they were attacking the state police, and the police said, just please get out of here.
And we left.
I mean, this is America, folks.
I was 150 yards away, not even in their business.
And they came.
Because they hate America.
Because they're terrorists.
dan friesen
Ah, yes.
Noted Beto O 'Rourke fans, Antifa.
jordan holmes
Wow.
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
I'd buy it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
The biggest gathering.
jordan holmes
Thousands of Antifa came out for Beto.
Beto O 'Rourke.
That's what...
Antifa loves to worship heroes like Beto O 'Rourke.
dan friesen
Well, here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
They didn't like his politics, necessarily, but they're big fans of At The Drive-In.
jordan holmes
They love them!
They're really good!
Oh, come on.
One-Armed Scissor?
Really great song.
Who's gonna say no to that?
dan friesen
Cut away.
Cut away.
Alex is eating a sandwich.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
So yeah, Alex gets to discussing the situation, and I would say this is pretty disgusting.
Like, he's just lying about the circumstances surrounding the killing.
alex jones
They had Kamala Harris and Joe Biden tweeting last night saying, say her name, say her name, Breonna Taylor.
Who was with some drug dealer gangbanger that somebody else called the cops on.
The cops come, he starts shooting at them, and the cops shoot and she gets killed in the crossfire.
That's called a mistake, an accident, because you were living with a gangbanging drug dealer.
dan friesen
Unsurprisingly, Alex is lying about the details of the police shooting that killed Breonna Taylor because he needs to minimize the event.
If you're forced to cover the story based on the details that exist in reality, he'd be forced to either demand action against the police or admit that he doesn't really care that much because the victim in this case wasn't white.
The shooting did not happen because a neighbor called the police.
That's a completely fabricated detail that Alex is giving the story because he doesn't know any of the actual information about this story.
In reality...
The police executed this no-knock warrant that they'd received for Taylor's house based on surveillance that they'd previously carried out that found that her ex-boyfriend had been to her house previously and was under investigation in a drug case.
By the time they raid Taylor's house, the ex-boyfriend had already been arrested across town.
The person who was with Taylor when the police killed her was her current boyfriend, a completely different person, which is something that Alex doesn't seem to understand.
jordan holmes
Or care about.
dan friesen
The details surrounding what exactly happened are kind of tough to parse.
Records do show that the police had a no-knock warrant, which means that they were able to execute it without announcing themselves.
Taylor's boyfriend claims that the only reason he fired a shot at all was because there was no indication to him that these were police.
This claim seems to be grounded in reality, considering the fact that there is a record of him calling the police because he thought someone was trying to break into the apartment.
Meanwhile, the police assert that they knocked and identified themselves, even though they had a no-knock warrant and they ended up breaking down the door.
jordan holmes
I am going to go out on a limb, Dan.
And I'm going to say that in this circumstance...
You can't trust anything the police say.
I think they might lie about this.
dan friesen
The fact that the dude called the police thinking that someone was breaking into his home makes it seem like whether or not they did announce themselves, they may not have announced themselves clearly enough.
jordan holmes
Perhaps.
dan friesen
It seems strange.
Anyway, this is a tragic situation, and one where the bare minimum that a just society requires is that the people who created this situation be held responsible.
Alex doesn't even know the basic details of what happened, which is an absolute disrespect to Breonna Taylor and to everyone involved.
If he is not interested in actually...
knowing about the killing, that's his right, but he should have the decency to just admit that he doesn't care enough to look into it.
It's really disgusting for him to just make up really simple details about a person's killing to enable him to be mad about other people's justified, angry response to the actual reality of that killing.
If he wants to just be like, I'm out, I punt on this, I don't give a shit.
Do it!
But just accept how we're going to look at you for that.
Just do that.
Just own it.
Dick.
jordan holmes
He can't.
He can't.
It doesn't look good.
unidentified
And so he has to make it okay.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
He just has to make it okay for you to get murdered.
dan friesen
Yep.
But the protests.
Violent.
Violent.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
This is another video out of Seattle last night of a man hitting a cop for no reason in the back of the head with a deadly weapon.
A baseball bat.
Here it is.
dan friesen
So here you can see the direction that Alex Jones' coverage goes in.
That night in Seattle, there were two main stories that went around that had to do with violence at the protests.
Actual news outlets might mention both of them, but someone like Alex is only going to cover what's convenient for his narrative, which is that these protesters are out of control and need to be killed, and they attack people for no reason.
The one story is about a protester hitting a cop with a bat.
The other one had to do with a video of a police officer on a bike clearly intentionally running over the head of a protester who was laying on the ground.
I say intentional because if you watch the footage, the cop has to alter his course to run over the guy's head.
He could have easily not run over the guy's head.
There was plenty of room to not do that, but he decided to anyway.
You would think that someone like Alex would err on the side of giving more weight to the story about a cop protected by the monopoly of force, libertarianism of the state that the state offers, choosing to run over a civilian's head, then giving weight to a story about a heavily armored cop getting hit with a bat.
But you'd be wrong.
Alex doesn't touch stories like that because, you know, the ones where the police are clearly brutalizing protesters, he doesn't touch those because he supports.
jordan holmes
He's only a little libertarian, Dan.
Obviously he wants a police state, like most libertarians, but he also wants to be able to live free with no consequences for his actions, right?
dan friesen
Libertarians don't want a police state because they don't want the state to have a monopoly of power.
They want a corporate state.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, that's fair.
dan friesen
They want a private army to be the police state.
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
Apologies, that sounds exactly like a police state to me.
dan friesen
Well, it does, but there's very subtle differences that have to do with the public-private.
jordan holmes
I'm only a little bit of libertarian.
dan friesen
Anyway, Savannah Hernandez is on the show because she went out to a rally in Austin the night before, and she apparently got jacked.
unidentified
Good.
alex jones
Say what this is.
No chivalry, no common sense.
You're a reporter, so everybody's supposed to respect that.
And you're a woman.
And it's men.
I've seen the video.
For radio listeners, you can't see it.
Videos on Infowars.com and Newswars.com.
And they are really hitting you, dragging you into the crowd, slamming you up against the wall.
Describe what happened.
savanah hernandez
Yeah, Alex, they, again, they started chanting my name.
unidentified
They targeted me out.
They made sure that the mob that I was surrounded by knew who I was.
savanah hernandez
Grown men, a part of Antifa in this city.
And as I tried to walk away, they punched me in the back of the head.
unidentified
But what they weren't expecting was for me to hit back.
dan friesen
Savannah Hernandez is on the show to discuss how she was attacked at the night of Pryor's March in support of Breonna Taylor.
jordan holmes
I assume they show a lot of video of this, because if you're the cameraman for Savannah Hernandez, and you see her getting physically attacked, you immediately put the camera on there.
dan friesen
I mean, I did watch the video.
There is video.
And it does appear that someone pushed her up against a wall, and maybe she got hit.
It's tough to tell from the angles.
And at least there is one person who's yelling, fuck her up!
Then, for a long period of time, Savannah says, I'll leave, I just want my phone.
No one seems to have her phone.
And then there are even people trying to help her find her phone.
It's a pathetic video.
jordan holmes
That is bad.
People try to help her find her phone?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Of course they do, because we're...
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Obviously, I'm not in favor of any sort of violence, so I can't support anybody taking a swing at her.
But also, I get it.
She was there working for Infowars, but pretending that she wasn't, since she always goes out pretending to work for the non-existent Action 7 News.
The whole incident started because people recognized her as an Infowars employee.
The reason I understand someone reacting violently to Savannah being there under false pretenses is because she works for a news organization that is actively trying to get protesters killed.
The work that she does represents an actual threat to the safety of the very people who were there protesting, because the footage that she captures and the product that she creates is used to build...
narratives that facilitate violence against protesters and to justify violence against protesters after it inevitably happens.
There are definitely better ways to handle the situation than to push her, but I'm not going to shed a tear or waste an ounce of sympathy on her.
This is the new lane that she's carved out for herself, and it's how she gets media attention.
A while back, she held up a Police Lives Matter sign at a Black Lives Matter march, and then got invited on Laura Ingram's show to discuss how she was attacked for supporting the police.
Predictably, Ingram pretends that Savannah is a, quote, independent journalist, instead of what she actually is, an Infowars provocateur.
People like Laura Ingram are in a tough predicament because they want to promote the stuff that InfoWars does, but they know that InfoWars is completely embarrassing and they can never really associate with it and keep any kind of credibility.
Simultaneously, this awareness goes both directions.
So when someone like Savannah, who works at InfoWars, gets the opportunity to enjoy the attention of the Fox News audience, they go out of their way to cover up that they work for Alex Jones.
What's your message to young women tonight?
laura ingraham
You got 15 seconds who are conservative, who are tired of being pushed around literally or figuratively at this time.
unidentified
What do you say?
Laura, I would just say that I'm not a spectacular human being.
I'm a regular girl.
I watched her show so many times, I never thought I'd actually be on it.
And if I can stand up and make big waves with a $5 poster board and a message, then anybody can.
So stand up.
They can as well.
Now's the time to do it.
All right, ladies.
Thank you so much.
dan friesen
This is the false ignorance that's required for these two worlds of conservative propaganda to collaborate.
We have to believe two completely unbelievable things in order for that clip to be understood as anything other than Laura Ingraham promoting Infowars in the most cowardly way possible.
First, we have to believe that no one at Fox googled Savannah Hernandez prior to her being on the show.
They did literally no background research on their guest and were completely unaware that she's paid by Alex Jones.
Second, we have to believe that given a national TV audience, Savannah didn't feel any desire to promote the outlet she works for and presumably believes is delivering the most hard-hitting news on the market.
Those two things are completely unbelievable, and the only explanation for the performance that happens is that both sides are keenly aware that pretending in force doesn't exist benefits both of them.
Laura Ingram gets to air the fake optics of a young independent journalist getting yelled at by left-wing extremists without having to address the elephant in the room.
At the same time, Savannah gets to play the role of a real journalist on TV without the baggage of having to explain that the person who paid her to carry that Police Lives Matter sign lied about Sandy Hook victims and thinks he's a real journalist.
He's in a death battle with the literal Christian devil.
unidentified
Well, there's that.
dan friesen
Also, like I said, I watched the video of that interaction and the altercation of the Breonna Taylor march.
From the footage, it appears like most people that are in this scuffle are trying to separate Savannah and someone else that she's fighting with.
It's not a gang attack, and honestly, the part where she's looking for her phone goes on a long time.
If anybody wanted to hurt her, she would have been hurt.
I guarantee it.
There's no gang attack.
This bums me out, because I do think...
From what I can tell, with the exception of maybe the person that she's fighting with, maybe.
It's tough to tell from the footage.
But assuming that somebody did start getting physical with her or whatever, I think everybody operated how they should have.
Trying to break it up, trying to keep people separated.
That kind of thing is exactly what you'd want to do.
But the problem, like, there's no way to deal with someone like her being at this march.
Because if you do nothing, she's gonna get video, gonna misrepresent it, and it's gonna be used to attack you.
If you try to throw her out, she'll claim she was attacked by a big gang of men with guns, and play the victim card, and maybe get back on Laura Ingram's show.
It's an unwinnable situation that you have when...
unidentified
I'm gonna have to go with break her stuff.
jordan holmes
I'm gonna have to go with take her camera, take all of the equipment and break it.
Like, her phone, instead of...
You should help look for her phone.
And if you find it first, you should smash it on the ground in front of her.
dan friesen
The views expressed by Jordan do not...
jordan holmes
I don't see any problem with that.
dan friesen
That could be your position.
I still don't advocate breaking people's things.
jordan holmes
I am on the side of breaking shit now.
Thoroughly on the side of breaking things.
dan friesen
In the interest of total clarity, I wouldn't judge you if you did do that, but I definitely don't support it.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
In the same way, after watching this video, I obviously don't think you should punch people.
unidentified
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
I don't think violence is good.
I also don't...
Care.
jordan holmes
I don't care.
We're at a place where I don't hurt people.
But anything that's not people, like buildings, fair game.
dan friesen
So Alex starts complaining about trafficked people and stuff.
It's kind of not all that interesting.
I only kept this in because he says something that I think is pretty offensive.
alex jones
That's what devil worshippers do.
They want slaves, children and women.
jordan holmes
And why are they killing all of us?
alex jones
In dungeons.
Why don't they really sex slave a lot of men?
Because you may think you've got a man as a slave for 10 years.
And one day he'll pick up a knife and shove it right into your throat.
That's why they want to get rid of men.
dan friesen
This is really dumb.
For one, Alex seems to think that men have some inherent ability to fight back against captors that women don't possess, and I'm going to need to see a citation on that.
jordan holmes
Chivalry.
dan friesen
Sure.
Beyond that, there's a really complex picture behind the reality of human trafficking.
A large amount of it does have to do with sex trafficking, but another huge sector involves labor trafficking, or literally slavery.
Among people who find themselves in the latter position, a 2019 study by the Polaris Project found that by far...
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
This is just looking at stats from the United States, but the point is that there is a human exploitation problem that exists that sometimes appears as sex trafficking and sometimes appears as labor trafficking.
Both of these are issues that are not exclusive to either men or women, and they're issues that should be taken seriously as opposed to being used as a prop to attack imaginary demons.
Also, if you keep men as slaves for so long, it ends up with you getting stabbed or whatever.
How did slavery work?
jordan holmes
It just ended up with everybody getting stabbed, Dan.
Remember?
Everybody got stabbed?
You remember how the California firefighters were all murdered by the slave labor that they used to fight fires?
Remember?
No, it's...
Right now, they're dead, right?
unidentified
How is 12 years a slave possible?
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a good point.
dan friesen
Even the title's a contradiction for Alex.
unidentified
That's a good point.
jordan holmes
That is a good point.
That's an issue.
He was ballparking it.
dan friesen
So, Alex has Robert Barnes on, and they want to just talk about how Amy Coney Barrett's not a great pick for the Supreme Court.
jordan holmes
Because she's Catholic?
dan friesen
Well, she's too Catholic.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
dan friesen
Alex has changed his tone completely from where he started.
jordan holmes
They're going to hate her because she's a Christian.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know what they...
I don't care to get in on their little games.
jordan holmes
No, no.
dan friesen
But anyway, that's what a lot of Barnes' appearance is about.
unidentified
However...
dan friesen
Mic down for this, because this is going to infuriate you.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Barnes has some thoughts about how the Nazis rose to power.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Pay close attention to this.
See if this sounds like anybody you do a podcast about.
robert barnes
Like, if we look at what happened in Germany in the 1930s, how Nazis came to power, they had three things in their favor.
First, they used a sort of excuse of the rise of a violent left, the communist left.
The fascists used that to help seize power, to legitimate their seizure of power.
Second, they used economic collapse and a quote-unquote emergency to assert power politically.
And then legally, the key aspect was there was, quote, an emergency exception to the Weimar Constitution that was used by both first the corporatists and then the Nazis to seize power legally.
Yeah, Barnes, be cognizant of who you're talking to.
jordan holmes
You are not allowed to say that.
You are just not allowed to say that stuff.
You can't literally say that they fabricated about the violent left.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, that's one.
But all three of those things are things that Alex is pushing for.
jordan holmes
He's doing right now.
He's doing all of those things.
That's unfair.
dan friesen
Quite aggressive.
jordan holmes
That is insulting.
dan friesen
That's why I told you to put the mic down.
jordan holmes
That is fucking insulting.
unidentified
I know.
jordan holmes
That's a personal attack on me.
He slapped me in the face with bullshit.
dan friesen
It's very cruel.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
dan friesen
And Barnes is a goddamn lawyer.
jordan holmes
I want to fight Barnes.
dan friesen
He's smart.
jordan holmes
I will fight Barnes for $10,000 to whatever charity Barnes wants to send that to.
I will fight him in the ring.
dan friesen
What if he says that he'll fight you, but if he wins, you have to donate to Rand Paul's re-election campaign?
jordan holmes
I'm in it.
I will do it.
That is the bet.
dan friesen
Then you double or nothing with Rand Paul.
jordan holmes
That'll be great stuff.
After I fight him, if I lose, I have to go immediately to the debate.
dan friesen
And then, after that, the aggro crag.
jordan holmes
I want some of that crag!
dan friesen
Yeah, Barnes is the worst, man.
jordan holmes
Barnes is the fucking worst.
That makes me so mad.
dan friesen
When you say stuff like that, it becomes too clear that you might be aware.
jordan holmes
You know what you're doing.
dan friesen
You might be aware.
jordan holmes
You just described yourself as a Nazi!
dan friesen
Or at least Alex is doing the exact same thing Nazis did.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's bananas.
And it has to be done legally.
That makes me want to fight.
I want to fight.
I'm going to fight him.
Fight.
dan friesen
So Alex is coming back from break, and he says something that struck my ears weird.
alex jones
Your designs.
And if we can get the general public to understand what's happening and their own self-interest, it's goodbye to this.
Last 60, 70 years of incredible corruption and stagnation.
dan friesen
Hmm, I wonder what happened 60 or 70 years ago that Alex thinks is so bad.
I mean, it must be the Federal Reserve, right?
I mean, he thinks that that's the root of all financial evils, or the globalists took control of our money and turned everyone into debt slaves.
No, that happened in 1913.
I want to say it was...
You know, it was probably the founding of the UN.
The body of the world government.
Pure Satanism on Earth.
No, wait, that happened in 1945.
That was 75 years ago.
Wait, I got it.
I got it.
unidentified
What's that?
dan friesen
It was probably the founding of the Council on Foreign Relations.
They're evil globalists.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
They're behind everything.
No, that happened in 1921.
99 years ago.
It kind of happened 60 to 70 years ago.
The Civil Rights Movement.
jordan holmes
Oh, that was it, Dan!
That was it!
Now I remember, because they were getting all like, I want to have rights and stuff.
I remember that.
dan friesen
So, Barnes doesn't want Amy Coney Barrett on the bench, but Trump needs somebody.
robert barnes
The president needs a fifth vote that is on his side.
And a fifth vote that will actually clear nomination and a fifth vote that will vote against the lockdowns.
unidentified
This is...
dan friesen
You're being too obvious, guys.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're saying that what he needs to do is...
He needs to put a stooge on the court.
Yeah, you're just invalidating the entire reason for the Supreme Court in the first place.
You're just saying, I don't want a Supreme Court.
dan friesen
I do not want...
Independent judiciary.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's what he's saying.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
That's exactly what he's saying.
Yep.
Damn it.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
But it can't be Amy Coney Barrett.
robert barnes
And that was in death penalty cases.
She was saying a Catholic judge could not enforce the death penalty conscientiously.
That is not someone we can trust to be on the Supreme Court.
alex jones
Well, it'd be one thing if it was Pope John Pius II or somebody.
Well, this new pope, he's a damn communist.
dan friesen
It may surprise you to hear this, but there is no pope named John Pius II.
There's never even been a John Pius I. Strong stance
jordan holmes
from him.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Alex was reaching for both of these names, and he combined them into a non-existent pope named John Pius II, and in the process he forgot about the actual last pope, Benedict, who resigned in 2013.
jordan holmes
For being a Nazi!
dan friesen
Now, I've said this before, and I'll say it again.
Alex is not a details guy.
jordan holmes
He's not interested.
Not interested in getting into the nitty-gritty.
dan friesen
Certainly not!
So, Alex has another guest after Barnes leaves.
alex jones
Alright, Dr. Andrew Wakefield.
God damn it.
dan friesen
Don't care!
Nope.
jordan holmes
Bye!
dan friesen
Wow, Dr. Mercola and Andrew Wakefield back-to-back days.
Really going hard on the anti-vex stuff.
jordan holmes
Man, we are just not gonna deal with science.
Breathe!
Peroxide!
dan friesen
Hoof it.
jordan holmes
Hoof it!
dan friesen
So, this is basically, we're gonna end on this clip, because I don't give a shit about Andrew Wakefield.
No, fuck him.
But this moment is really funny, because it's basically a banana peel.
alex jones
That's it.
There must be no mandate.
He said it once like four months ago.
He used to do it every day.
dr andrew wakefield
Atlas has said it again, but we want to hear it from Trump.
alex jones
Oh, I didn't know that.
Atlas said that.
unidentified
Atlas said it just the other day.
dr andrew wakefield
He was called up by Trump to the podium, and he said, there will be no mandates.
This vaccine will be only for those who want it.
alex jones
Oh!
I didn't even know.
Guys, search engine, Atlas.
Dr. Atlas says no COVID-19 mandate.
Well, good to have you here.
dan friesen
Good to have you here.
I demand they make it clear that there's no mandate.
Well, Dr. Atlas did come out and say, oh, great.
unidentified
Hey!
jordan holmes
Now what do we do?
dan friesen
Oh, wait.
jordan holmes
I'm not used to getting what I want.
dan friesen
I can't scare people about non-mandatory.
jordan holmes
Okay, but that's just a...
That's just a smokescreen for when they do make it mandatory, right?
dan friesen
I don't care.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So, this couple days was a little bit nutty, but I do feel a little bit reinvigorated.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know why.
I don't know what it is.
jordan holmes
Have you been huffing peroxide?
alex jones
I think I have been.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
I knew it.
I knew that nebulizer over there was for a reason.
dan friesen
That's right.
Actually, yeah.
The worm farm is made of...
jordan holmes
That's actually code.
dan friesen
It's just a nebulizer.
jordan holmes
Did you get that from Wayfair?
dan friesen
I did.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
Merkula!
unidentified
Merkula!
jordan holmes
Nope.
No.
Take it back.
dan friesen
I do.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I retract it.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So, I don't know.
I look at these couple days, and obviously, the thing that I come away with the most is like, there's just such deep...
Coded and uncoded racism flying around.
It's pretty aggressive.
Even for Alex Jones, it's kind of like, come on, man.
This is a little much.
jordan holmes
Just say the word uppity like you want to.
dan friesen
But that makes sense to an extent based on what the news cycle is.
There's a lot of stuff going on and he can't really justify it too well.
Best not to try.
Say it's a tragedy.
Just be racist.
jordan holmes
It's okay to kill black people.
dan friesen
Yeah, and then deliver the message that you want to deliver through secondary storylines, like TikTok videos and stuff like that.
Express your bigotry that way.
Deflect everywhere else.
jordan holmes
It just always gets back to, like...
If it's a black person, it's always, well, you shouldn't have put yourself in that situation.
You shouldn't have been with a drug dealer.
You shouldn't have been with all this stuff.
You're always fucking guilty.
dan friesen
Yeah, as if somehow the worst case scenario of dating a drug dealer means that you deserve to die.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no shit.
dan friesen
Or that your death is any less tragic or cause for...
Concern.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's very dumb.
jordan holmes
Plus, we're comics.
Half of our friends have or are drug dealers.
Yeah.
So then, if I get murdered by the cops, it's like, well, you shouldn't have had friends who were comedians.
dan friesen
Well...
jordan holmes
Now, that's true.
dan friesen
I mean, in terms of, like, scolding you, in terms of justifying a death, no.
jordan holmes
No, very much no.
dan friesen
Yeah, if it's your uncle wants to give you a talking to about who you hang out with, maybe.
But, yeah, it's a bummer, and, you know, shit's bad.
And I hope things get better.
And the only way I can make things better around here is by taking some calls.
So here's the first one.
unidentified
Hey, Dan.
Hey, Jordan.
You're in Kansas City.
dan friesen
I've been listening for about three years now.
unidentified
Four now, actually.
Shit.
You guys are a bright spot for me Monday and Friday.
Just keep doing what you're doing.
dan friesen
Shout out to Kansas City!
I wanted to play that to give a non-sponsored plug to the best ice cream shop in the United States, Betty Ray's, in Kansas City.
Check it out if you want some very interesting flavors that I...
Have no relation to it at all.
jordan holmes
No, completely random that you would specifically point out Kansas City and this particular ice cream store.
That's so weird.
Anyways, if you're in Kansas City, you should check out some ice cream.
dan friesen
Yeah, but my brother definitely...
jordan holmes
What brother?
dan friesen
You don't even have a brother!
unidentified
No!
jordan holmes
He designs tattoos for you, Dan!
unidentified
Hi, Dan and Jordan.
I wrote this out, but then I had to pull up the text-out document.
Hey, Dan and Jordan, I'm a first-time caller.
I love your work.
I love you.
I wanted to be the first person to recommend a video game via spoken word, but I'm not.
Someone else recommended Stardew Valley.
But I still wanted to recommend the 1998 point-and-click text-adventure hybrid Starship Titanic loosely based on the Douglas Adams book of the same name.
jordan holmes
Oh, hell yeah, I know about it.
unidentified
You guys are big hitchhikers, guys, even though I'm sure you've mentioned it.
Actually, I'm certain you've mentioned it.
I just can't remember which way you were on that, Douglas Adams.
But I'm not.
I don't like Hitchhiker's Guide or Douglas Adams or anything, and I never read the book.
But the game is really great, and I've just been replaying it on Steam, and it's amazing.
It feels more like a Jordan game.
I don't really know why, just more of a Jordan vibe.
But it's really great.
I was originally going to make a donation with the name, the 1998 Point& Quick Texas Adventure Hybrid Game, Star Trek Titanic, that I kept forgetting when I got my paycheck.
And then this month my dog got really bad to squeeze, but I wasn't sure it was squeeze, so the vet appointment cost a lot.
And Dan, if you have the Switch, you're obligated to play Deadly Premonitions and the new sequel.
Deadly Premonitions is just, I mean, it's the best game ever.
Also, thanks for putting out a really long podcast that I really enjoy, three times a week.
I love you.
dan friesen
Love it too.
That is a rollercoaster.
I didn't know where that was going.
First of all, you talk about Douglas Adams a lot.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I do.
dan friesen
And second, I don't know what side you come down on it, I thought for sure.
I've never heard of anybody not liking Tiger Sky.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So that threw me for a loop.
jordan holmes
That tossed me a little bit.
How do you like...
dan friesen
And then the comment of, this seems like more of a Jordan game, I was like, you're damn right it does.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is.
dan friesen
Yeah, 100%.
jordan holmes
No, it occurs to me that if you listen to two people talk for several hundred hours, eventually you're going to get a general vibe.
And damn right, you're right on it.
dan friesen
Yeah, that is a Jordan game.
jordan holmes
You bet.
dan friesen
I appreciate the Switch recommendation, too, and I hope the dog is doing all right.
jordan holmes
And I would recommend reading, if you don't want to get into the Hitchhiker's Guide, you can definitely go with some of the Dirk Gently books, or the two Dirk Gently books.
They're fantastic.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I would recommend those highly.
dan friesen
All right.
Nice little, you know.
unidentified
This is a story about my dog.
When I heard language skills weren't as developed, I would listen to Knowledge Light in the car with her.
But during an episode where I was not particularly discussing with trans folks, I turned it off.
Good call.
three-year-old's memory can surprise me.
Oh, no.
A few weeks ago, I sat down to play one of the funnier episodes for her mom.
The theme song came on the speaker, and Chloe shouted, No!
I paused it and got down on her level and asked, What's wrong with this knowledge fight, baby?
She shouted again, They mean!
I exchanged the look at her mother and asked, Are Dan and Jordan mean, baby?
She had to think about this.
She's still learning from something.
She said, He mean!
I didn't have to think about it.
The man talks like this.
Is he mean?
She pointed at me and said again, He's mean!
My daughter is in the bottom 1% of her growth, but her emotional status is bad.
Thanks, guys.
dan friesen
That's just a heartwarming story.
jordan holmes
Start him out young.
Make sure they know.
Don't let him hear what he's saying.
Just make sure they know he's mean.
dan friesen
Get the general vibe.
jordan holmes
Yeah, get the general vibe.
He's a mean guy.
dan friesen
Just a bright, warm little story.
jordan holmes
She's got a good future.
dan friesen
Thanks for sharing that.
jordan holmes
Yes, very much so.
unidentified
Hey, Dan and Jordan.
This is Weston from Nashville, Tennessee.
I'm actually called.
This is for Dan.
You mentioned that you don't quite...
Get the concept of clipping plants for cloning.
It's quite simple.
Basically, you want to separate a bit of the plant at any of the offshoots at the stem.
Just kind of tear it as cleanly as you can.
If it's not a cactus, then you just immediately kind of set that in some water and some roots will form after like five, six days, something like that usually.
It depends on the plant.
You might want to like Google that specific plant just to make sure.
Because some of them you kind of have to rip at like a lower point.
If you have a cactus that you want to have a clipping of or clone, you just break off any piece of it and you let it dry for like a week or two where it kind of starts to calcify on the torn end.
And then you just plant that with the bottom of it under dirt.
And just water it.
And it's really simple.
I kind of figured it out by accident.
And I now have more plants than I know what to do with.
So I hope this helps.
And I love the show.
And have a good rest of your day.
dan friesen
Thank you, Weston.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
Appreciate that.
And now I'm going to clone everything.
A little plant watching update.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Cucumber, huge.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
It blew your mind earlier.
jordan holmes
It blew my mind how big that cucumber was.
dan friesen
Cucumber is coming in!
jordan holmes
I mean, we didn't put out a Wednesday episode, so I haven't been here for, like, four days, and there was no cucumber.
dan friesen
There was a cucumber.
jordan holmes
You just didn't notice it.
There was an unnoticeable cucumber.
dan friesen
Also, other plant- To the untrained eye.
Plant watching update.
Brighten my spirits.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I got a text from you earlier today.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
The cantaloupe.
jordan holmes
It flowered, Dan!
dan friesen
I started a cantaloupe for you.
You took it home.
Where you have a little more space for it, and I thought you'd kill it for sure.
jordan holmes
For sure, but instead I got one flower.
It's totally going to die.
dan friesen
There will be two flowers after one.
jordan holmes
Ah!
dan friesen
Then we'll see if it ends up pollinating.
jordan holmes
That'll be interesting.
dan friesen
Yeah, then you get a melon.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
How exciting.
jordan holmes
I mean, the problem is it's already September, so...
dan friesen
It'll be fine.
unidentified
I'll be fine.
Hello, this is Andrew.
I'm a relatively long-time listener from...
I would say...
The early in the 2013 review period to now.
I actually have only one question, and it is a Horizon period question, which is, what four weapons did each of you primarily use as your layout?
For me, it was a hunter bow, two different...
Piercing bows, one with the tear blast max, one with the piercing max, and the rope gun that locks the creature down, which is the answer to how do you beat the giant Tyrannosaurus creature.
You just shoot it full of rope, you hack at it, then you shoot it full of rope, and you repeat that as many times as needed.
So I'd love to hear what setups of weapons you used.
Thank you.
dan friesen
I mean, this is obviously a Horizon Zero Dawn question, so we're at the nation's number one Horizon Zero Dawn podcast.
We're required to answer it.
jordan holmes
It does seem like we are...
dan friesen
We're required to answer any questions about Horizon.
jordan holmes
Sometimes, if you just listen to the calls, you'd be like, what is this show about?
dan friesen
I think if you listen to the show, you'd be like, what is this show about?
jordan holmes
That's a fair point.
dan friesen
So I would say, I think one of my weapon slots was just something I never used.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think I had those two bows that he's talking about.
And the rope.
And that was it.
And I only kept that rope around because I hated those damn birds.
jordan holmes
I don't understand what is...
dan friesen
I need to take out those birds.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I hate the birds too.
I don't understand why you guys do not use the slingshot.
The Karja Slingshot, the Shadow Slingshot?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Toss bombs, you upgrade it until the bombs are just undefeatable.
I just blow stuff up left and right.
dan friesen
I think I was looking for a more precise gameplay.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but you use a tear blast arrow to pop off the caps, you shoot a bomb at one of the things, and it explodes, and you win!
dan friesen
Yeah.
I was more into tying something down and beating it up.
Hitting it with sticks.
jordan holmes
I don't know if I ever used...
I never melee.
I never get into a melee fight.
dan friesen
I was constant.
jordan holmes
No.
Stealth or distance.
That's what I always do.
dan friesen
A lot of melee stuff.
A lot of arrows, of course.
And then also taking things over and watching them fight.
unidentified
Loved it.
dan friesen
Yeah, I did a fair bit of that, too.
So yeah, I don't know.
I guess I only used three of the four.
I definitely didn't maximize.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I think I'm probably going to play through again eventually a second, no, like a second time.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And maybe try and do it differently.
jordan holmes
You know what's crazy is I didn't use the rope too much because I thought it was a little bit cheating.
dan friesen
Well, it's not with the birds.
jordan holmes
No, that's true.
dan friesen
It's very necessary with the birds.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
But yeah, for some of the smaller things it is kind of just like, yeah.
Anyway.
unidentified
Hey, Dan and Jordan.
Just listening to some knowledge fight, and it made me wonder, there's a question that's been getting to me for a while now.
When it's obvious that Alex Jones is eating, what do they do on the television program?
Because I know it's a TV show, but it's also a radio show.
Do they picture and picture him, or do they do a cutaway, like a Skype interview, or how does that work?
I doubt they're just showing Alex wilding out on a sandwich, but maybe they are.
I don't know.
I can't take that much unfiltered Alex Jones to find out.
So thanks for doing the show, and yeah, have a good day.
dan friesen
Good question.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Typically, Alex will be eating when he's interviewing somebody else.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So they'll vary between, like, if it's a guest, they'll put that person's Skype video on the full screen as opposed to the side-by-side shots.
jordan holmes
Yeah, so he can take a nice little bite.
dan friesen
Yes.
And then if he's taking calls where they don't have that, there's just an InfoWars logo.
That they'll put up on the, like a moving logo, so it's kind of like visually still interesting.
There's like little lines moving on it.
jordan holmes
He's just hungry.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
That's annoying.
dan friesen
Put that up on the screen.
It's like, this is supposed to stand in for the caller.
Might as well have a picture of a phone.
jordan holmes
He's not on air for that long.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
You cannot eat for that many hours.
dan friesen
He also has commercial breaks.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's the part that's really the most upsetting.
Here's the last call.
unidentified
Just calling back to let you know what I thought of the questions.
I thought that were pretty fucking good.
And I say that because I know that this is a family show, so I can't do any proper Australian swearing.
But, yeah, good effort.
To all those other people who've been calling in about the quokka thing, if all of you are wrong, it's quokka.
It's not quokka, not quokka, quokka.
It is just quokka.
Jordan, you are correct.
We do abbreviate everything 90. They are real.
We don't just add either things, though.
So, you know, I'm a high school teacher, and I'll tell you now that we've got lots of...
Rather than using people's full names, like Daniel and Jordaniel, we'll say Dano and Jordan.
And I do teach quite a few Jordanos, and they're all, all of them, pretty good blokes.
So I hope...
Hopefully, you're a pretty good bloke too, or else you'll just ruin it for all the others.
Yep, that's it.
Just driving home in the ute, which is what Australians call a pick-up truck, because we're not dumb enough to pick that car as a truck.
And, yeah, that's about it.
Countryside looks nice.
Ours isn't on fire anymore.
for here yours is.
That kind of shit.
Yep, good luck with that.
Thanks.
Goddamn it.
Goddamn.
dan friesen
Funnier than our show will ever be.
That dude.
Apparently our impressions were alright, which I disagree with.
I think that was being far too kind.
jordan holmes
There have been worse impressions than ours.
dan friesen
That's true.
I do appreciate the check-in on the...
The various pronunciations of Quokka.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is nice.
dan friesen
Appreciate that.
jordan holmes
I think Giordos are doing pretty well.
First names only.
I'm not going to count Jim Giordo on this one.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I think the worst one we've got is...
We've got Giordo Peterson, right?
That's what we've got.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
As far as Giordos who suck go.
dan friesen
Well, in theory.
We don't know if he's still with us.
His daughter might be...
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
Weekend at Bernie's and him.
jordan holmes
Did we just increase Jordan's status by subtraction?
unidentified
Is that what just happened?
dan friesen
I've lost track of the Jordan Peterson story.
I have no idea what's going on with that.
I probably shouldn't even make jokes.
But anyway, Jordan, what a delight that called.
And all the calls.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
But as promised at the beginning of the episode, I almost forgot.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
We got the mailbag.
dan friesen
Open up this mailbag here, Jordan.
And I got this interesting little note here.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
dan friesen
Dan and Jordan!
Dear gents, the two of you have given me hours upon hours of joy and entertainment.
This show has gotten me through many a night of third shift.
I work at Barton's 1792 Distillery in Kentucky, literally the bourbon capital of the world.
As a token of appreciation for all you do, please accept this bottle of 1792 foolproof.
It was recently recognized at the best whiskey of the world by Jim Murray, recognized as the leading whiskey expert in the world.
jordan holmes
Holy shit!
dan friesen
I love the show, hands down my favorite podcast.
Apologies for the horrendous handwriting.
It's not that bad of handwriting.
Please accept this gift in the name of the disembodied spirit of knock.
Much respect for all you do.
Well, many thanks to the disembodied spirit of Nong.
jordan holmes
Holy shit.
dan friesen
I've got this bottle here.
I don't really drink that much these days.
And so I think, I feel like you and your partner will probably enjoy it a lot more than I would.
jordan holmes
Oh, I think so.
dan friesen
I think, and in the way that so many of these gifts are specifically for me, like the seltzers, I feel like a bottle of really nice whiskey is...
jordan holmes
That's kind of my vibe, Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So I expect a full report on that.
jordan holmes
Oh, don't worry.
dan friesen
To relay back to the disembodied spirit of Nock.
jordan holmes
Oh man, I hope he stole this.
unidentified
Disembodied?
Is that it?
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Yeah, disembodied.
I hope he didn't steal it.
jordan holmes
I hope he stole it.
dan friesen
We're a little different.
And then one other thing here in the bag.
You got this.
Nice note from Mark P. Up in Kingston, Ontario, Canada.
I will say this could have easily been a bright spot for me.
And that was just a box of Canadian candy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was good.
dan friesen
I have to say I was pretty impressed.
I went in with some iffy expectations.
Because, like, you know, there's, like, Maltesers in there.
They're just malt balls.
jordan holmes
Oh, they're delicious, though.
dan friesen
They're so much better.
jordan holmes
They're way better than...
Oh, they're infinitely better.
They're lighter, they're fluffier, they've got a much better texture, you don't have to fight them.
dan friesen
Yeah, Whoppers suck.
jordan holmes
Suck!
dan friesen
Compared to Maltesers.
jordan holmes
Nothing.
dan friesen
So, spectacular.
jordan holmes
That Aero candy bar blew my mind.
dan friesen
That one's not new to me.
I've had those before, and they are good.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
They're good.
jordan holmes
Very good.
dan friesen
But if I'd never had one before, I think it would blow my mind.
jordan holmes
It's infinitely better than a Hershey's chocolate bar.
dan friesen
And the coffee crisp was fantastic.
That was a really good texture and flavor.
jordan holmes
That was delicious.
dan friesen
I didn't give you any of these.
Mark did send one bag of wine gums.
A brand called Maynard Wine Gums.
jordan holmes
All right.
Got you a little toasty?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
Angry.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
They're so gross.
They're just like gummies, like jujifruit or whatever, but they taste like fucking wine.
And they're gross.
jordan holmes
Most people just...
It's the taste of wine.
It's not the getting drunk part, Dan.
It's just that fine, aged flavor.
dan friesen
And you want it in a gummy form.
jordan holmes
In a gummy form.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Repulsive.
jordan holmes
And it doesn't even have an alcohol content?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Then what's the point?
dan friesen
The champagne one, I think, was all right.
jordan holmes
It was the champagne of the gummies, yeah.
dan friesen
But there's like one that's like a brandy, or not brandy, what is it, burgundy?
jordan holmes
A burgundy.
dan friesen
Almost threw it out the window.
jordan holmes
What are you talking about?
A burgundy is impossible to drink and you get drunk off of it.
dan friesen
Not fit to feed my worms.
These wine gums.
jordan holmes
Burgundy.
dan friesen
Oh, also the Kinder Eggs are really cool, but they got...
Apparently the chocolate parts of them got broken in transit.
But it's so cool.
We used to get those a lot when I was younger.
Me and my buddies at the dollar store before they made it illegal to import Kinder Eggs.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because they have those little toys inside the chocolate.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they got the little toys.
dan friesen
They have tiny parts that...
jordan holmes
Get stuck in baby's throats.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
My buddy Nicky Gifts knows.
Burger, you know.
A couple of buddies from Columbia, they know about the Kinder Eggs.
So thank you so much, Mark.
That really brightened a couple of tough...
Days.
And I'm sure that that whiskey will brighten.
Oh, it'll take about 45 minutes of your evening.
jordan holmes
Get out of here.
This is good shit.
This is a slow drink.
dan friesen
Hour and a half.
jordan holmes
Get out of here.
Come on.
dan friesen
Well, Jordan, we'll be back.
unidentified
Yes, we will.
dan friesen
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep.
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledgefight and I go to bed Jordan.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook.
And if you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area.
Emphasis on bail funds.
We're going to need them.
dan friesen
Yeah, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
I'm the juiciest ice cube.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
Hello, Alex.
unidentified
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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