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Sept. 18, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#483: September 17, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan poke their noses around the Alex Jones Show to see what's going on. In this installment, Alex takes calls from his listeners on what they should think about Trump supporting a vaccine, and Roger Stone seems to have grown out of supporting Alex's theories.

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alex jones
10:53
d
dan friesen
42:35
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jordan holmes
17:33
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nick fuentes
02:41
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newt gingrich
00:13
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roger stone
00:34
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
I love you.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fat.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
We are, Dan.
dan friesen
Just because I go staccato doesn't mean you have to, Jordan.
jordan holmes
I'm trying to play off of your energy.
dan friesen
Sometimes dissonant energies are better than complimentary ones.
jordan holmes
I mean, I've heard that before from minor keys in the light.
dan friesen
Our whole podcast is me being mellow and you yelling.
You shouldn't go staccato when I go staccato.
jordan holmes
I think we can go staccato a different dynamic range is important.
dan friesen
This is what happens when we've been talking for an hour already before the show.
jordan holmes
You're already annoyed with me.
dan friesen
Fucking pissed off.
Get out of my house.
jordan holmes
Alright, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
unidentified
Podcast over.
You're promising more than usual conversation.
jordan holmes
I get it.
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot this week?
dan friesen
Well, it's something that has to do with plant watching.
Not to overburden the audience with talk of my plants, but I mean, it's just really...
We've mentioned the cucumber plants a bit in the past.
One of the things is they're the ones that are really, they've come along the most and there's the most life and flowering in them.
But my bright spot is just a real recognition that, like, I did successfully pollinate one of those plants.
One of the, at least...
I don't know how good my batting average is, but at least one of those cucumbers is definitely pollinated.
It is definitely growing, and hopefully, fingers crossed, because it's still not done yet, still got a ways to go.
jordan holmes
Anytime now.
dan friesen
It could lead to an actual cucumber that I could turn into an actual pickle.
jordan holmes
That would be very exciting.
dan friesen
Very exciting.
jordan holmes
Are you going to try and eat it as a cucumber first, or are you just going to go straight to pickle?
dan friesen
Can I tell you something?
I don't like cucumbers.
jordan holmes
I think we've had this conversation.
dan friesen
I might have more of an affinity for them if I grew them myself, but I've never been a big fan of cucumbers.
jordan holmes
You've never had a nice cucumber salad?
Maybe even just cucumber water.
You like cucumber water?
dan friesen
I don't like cucumber seltzers, for sure.
jordan holmes
And that seltzer is a different story.
Cucumber water.
dan friesen
Cucumber water without bubbles might be better than with, but no, I don't love it.
Cucumber on a salad, sometimes fine.
But it's not a highlight.
But I do love pickles.
jordan holmes
Sure.
See, I'm going to bring this dissonant energy to you.
I like cucumbers.
dan friesen
Hate pickles?
jordan holmes
Hate pickles.
Despise pickles.
dan friesen
You're not going to like my future pickle gifts.
jordan holmes
I am not going to like your future pickle gifts.
I'm sure my partner will appreciate them immensely.
dan friesen
And your absolute need as an employee of Dan Industries.
I will need you to help me fine-tune my pickle recipe.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Is there going to be vats?
I assume that anything that we do is going to require vats.
dan friesen
If you don't like pickles, that's really going to put a crimp in your ability to tell me if it's a bad pickle or not.
jordan holmes
It's going to perhaps hinder it entirely.
dan friesen
I might need another contractor.
I might need another employee.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
Pickle taster.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think that's a good idea.
dan friesen
So anyway, that's my bright spot.
jordan holmes
Like an old king.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I have a pickle taster in case somebody's poisoning me.
dan friesen
Yeah, how about you?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is from the mailbag zip.
dan friesen
You don't get to zip.
I'm worried you've ruined the zip bit.
jordan holmes
I think you just fixed it.
I got my knife!
dan friesen
Yeah!
jordan holmes
I got my knife, Dan!
It is an incredibly beautiful and scary device.
unidentified
From Chris.
dan friesen
Policywonk.
unidentified
Chris.
jordan holmes
From Chris.
Policywonk.
And he sent this lovely note.
It's, hey, Jordan.
This knife goes to you.
Thank you for your infectious laugh and screaming at the same time as I do.
Our past don't sound too far off, and it's great to see there is a chance to get past what your family did.
Hope you enjoy.
Keep fighting the good fight.
You two are needed now more than ever.
Policy Walk Chris.
And this is from Folk Vongar's Forge.
dan friesen
Yeah, you can find some of his work from the Forge on Etsy.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
And a lot of it looks really cool.
jordan holmes
It's very cool.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I like the idea of fight the good fight, here's a knife.
Granted, it's a kitchen knife, not a fighting knife.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
But, yeah.
That's so cool.
Really appreciate that.
jordan holmes
More than other kitchen knives, this could be a fighting knife.
dan friesen
And now that you're saying that, I remember that Chris had sent me a message on Facebook, but it's on my personal Facebook, and I never see those messages, and I owe him a response, along with about a ton of other people.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I apologize.
jordan holmes
You and me both.
dan friesen
Oh my god.
Correspondence is the worst thing in the world for me.
Not the worst thing in the world, but it's my worst skill.
It's something that...
I need to get better at it.
jordan holmes
It's just one of those things where I get a message while I'm in the middle of working, and I look and I'm like, okay, I'm gonna get back to you, but I gotta get back to work, and then I remember that I got the message, so I just assume that I've already responded to it.
dan friesen
It would probably be better if I didn't keep my email open all the time, because then I see things and I'm like, I gotta get back to this later, and then I just forget, as opposed to setting aside a time to open the email.
And then be like, oh, here's what I need.
I think we might have just...
jordan holmes
We need a new employee of Dan Industries.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Or a new strategy.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
Anyway, Jordan, today we're going to be talking about an episode of the Alex Jones Show from September 17th, 2020.
I'm Dan, this is 2020.
unidentified
Goddammit.
dan friesen
Present day, talking about Thursday's episode.
Some stuff happens.
There are some guests.
jordan holmes
Indeed!
dan friesen
Some fun is had by all.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
But before we get into that, we've got to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
jordan holmes
That's a great idea.
dan friesen
Yeah, so first, Jamie K., thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Jamie.
dan friesen
Next, Bill F., thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Bill.
dan friesen
Thank you, Billy.
Next, no last name, Trent.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Trent.
Tents don't need a last name.
Everybody knows who their Trent is.
dan friesen
Strong.
Strong name, Trent.
jordan holmes
Everybody's got a Trent.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The T in T at the beginning.
jordan holmes
Great name.
dan friesen
Strong name.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Next, Brandon W. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Brandon!
unidentified
Thank you!
dan friesen
Next, Chloe M. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Chloe.
unidentified
Thank you!
dan friesen
Next, person number 42. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, person number 42. Next!
Or the answer to the question of what...
dan friesen
Sure.
Next, thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
I think people are trying to trip me up.
jordan holmes
That's a trick!
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
That's a trick, sir!
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Trying to get a longer dropout.
dan friesen
And finally, thank you so much to Jen the Librarian.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate, that's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
We gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimp so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Jen the Librarian.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Jen the Librarian.
dan friesen
Librarians are very important in these times, and we need to do a better job of saluting our librarians.
jordan holmes
That sounds like a great bounty hunter name in the apocalypse.
Jen the Librarian.
It's kind of got that tiny, but for a big guy kind of feel to it.
You know, you think a librarian's real cool and calm, but then she comes at you.
dan friesen
Boba Fett.
jordan holmes
She's Jen!
dan friesen
Jen the librarian.
Yeah, I like it.
So, Jordan, I know that you tried to emulate one of my signature sounds a minute ago, and I don't appreciate it.
jordan holmes
I apologize.
Do you want to call me a dick through your little...
dan friesen
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
You don't want to use your soundboard?
dan friesen
No, because I think you want me to, and I don't want to give you what you want.
jordan holmes
You are so defiant.
dan friesen
But I think the only way that we can write this wrong is if I look in the mailbag, zip!
jordan holmes
Damn it!
You're so fast!
dan friesen
Yep.
I am currently wearing a shirt.
jordan holmes
Indeed!
dan friesen
That we got in the mail from Sonia from Sweden.
jordan holmes
We got two different shirts.
unidentified
Yeah!
jordan holmes
They are both very, very cool.
dan friesen
Yeah, got a lot of naked people dancing around what appears to be a pole of some sort.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we got...
dan friesen
This is very much something I can't wear in public.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we got...
I think they're one massive...
My shirt.
We...
I think we figured it out.
dan friesen
Larges are mine, mediums are yours.
I think people understand that.
jordan holmes
I think there was that, but also there were two different messages on our shirts.
One said, fuck you, you ruined the environment or whatever it was.
And the other one said save the environment or something along those lines.
dan friesen
The two sides of the knowledge fight coin.
jordan holmes
And I'm just going to go out on a limb and say the negative one was probably for me.
dan friesen
I think that and the size differences are probably definitive proof.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would say so.
Thank you very much, Sonya.
dan friesen
Yeah, thank you, Sonya.
Then also in the mailbag, the secondary compartment in the mailbag.
Got a box of notebooks with notes from the show that...
Thank Mr. Princess for sending in.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Appreciate that very much.
Got a lot of notes about past episodes.
It'll help me remember which fucking episode was which.
unidentified
Indeed.
dan friesen
Because I've got to say, I mean, we've done a lot of episodes, and I don't remember most of them.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go out on a limb and say, I don't even know that we're doing a show.
dan friesen
If you asked me what did we talk about in episode 205, I'd be like, I don't know, fucking Ron Paul.
jordan holmes
If you asked me what your bright spot was, I probably would forget.
dan friesen
Something about cucumbers.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So, thank you, Mr. Princess.
We appreciate that.
And now, let us bow our heads.
jordan holmes
Are we doing that?
dan friesen
As we enter the episode.
Alex starts off the show, and he explains that he wants to take calls.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Does not get to those calls until a bit into the episode.
Which is normal.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But what he wants to take calls on, he's pretty clear on this episode, that he wants to talk about how Trump is saying that there's a great vaccine that he's going to put out.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Trump's got a vaccine.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He's going to put it out.
unidentified
This, you would think, would cause some friction.
Right.
jordan holmes
Because he doesn't believe vaccines are good.
But Trump is saying that this vaccine is good.
dan friesen
It's perfect.
jordan holmes
Yes.
So where are we going to fall here?
dan friesen
Well, that's why Alex needs to take calls.
Because that's how we can wiggle around and figure out exactly where we're going to go.
jordan holmes
Let's get the feel of who these people are.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
I gotcha.
alex jones
I also intend to open the phones up today on one specific issue because I want to gauge what the listeners and viewers think.
And we'll play the clip of Trump here in just a moment.
He has come out and said we're going to have a very powerful, very effective vaccine that's going to work perfectly.
Well, that's not true.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no shit.
alex jones
Can they get a vaccine out very, very quickly?
Absolutely.
Have the Chinese already rolled one out?
Have the Russians already rolled one out?
Have the Indians already rolled one out?
Have the South Africans already rolled one out?
Have they already approved all these?
Absolutely.
Is Putin putting sugar water in people?
Absolutely.
To end the hysteria, he knows this thing is a giant.
Scam!
unidentified
Oh boy.
Wait.
dan friesen
Putin's putting sugar water in people.
jordan holmes
Putin's injecting sugar water into people?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it's a metaphor.
unidentified
Won't that kill you?
dan friesen
Yeah, it would.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's a metaphor, though.
But he does use the expression shooting people up with sugar water later, which would lead you to believe that he's actually talking about sugar water.
unidentified
It kind of sounds like that's also something that he would believe Putin would do.
dan friesen
He's talking about this in the...
But his idea is that there's these placebos, basically, like watered-down vaccines.
jordan holmes
Sure, like a sugar pill.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That they're using to end the hysteria, because it's not that big a deal anyway, so just give people the shot, make them feel better.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Fuck it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I have a serious question for you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Do any of the callers correctly point out that Bill Gates already has the vaccine?
dan friesen
Well, according to Alex, he's had it for years.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
No, and that's actually a real problem with this.
Because Alex's whole narrative about this, as it's going to evolve, and this is basically the position that he's had, is that Alex claims that he has White House sources that are saying that what Trump's doing is that he's saying that he's got this vaccine that he's going to put off, so this is going to cut off Bill Gates at the pass.
Right?
Because Bill Gates has got his bad vaccine.
Trump will have some kind of watered down one, right?
So there's that.
And then the secondary aspect of it is that Trump saying that he's got this vaccine is forcing Democrats to become anti-vax, which is part of the long game also.
It's just...
jordan holmes
Wow.
This is all a bad long game.
It's a bad short game.
dan friesen
It's the attempt to foil Bill Gates' evil plan by way of Trump supporting it.
unidentified
Wow!
jordan holmes
I never considered that the way out of their anti-vax bullshit was to say that it's actually a placebo.
That Trump is giving people basically an injection of nothing.
So that's how you are fine with getting the vaccine.
Because you know, unlike those stupid Democrats...
dan friesen
No, no, no.
These people are still not going to get it.
jordan holmes
Right.
Well, of course not.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
But for a propaganda outlet of, like, what's a creative way to get around the fact that we have decided that all vaccines will kill you?
dan friesen
Right.
No, no, no.
So this isn't a way to get more people to get vaccines.
This is a way to explain away why Trump might be in favor of a vaccine.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Though your media ecosystem is supposed to be anti-vaccine.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm so tired.
dan friesen
This is making excuses for Trump.
That's what this is.
This is Trump apologia.
jordan holmes
Okay, so let's see if Trump tries to sell it that way.
dan friesen
Probably won't.
jordan holmes
I think so.
dan friesen
But Alex knows that this is what's going on.
He's got it from high-level sources.
alex jones
So I'm going to get the number out at the bottom of the hour on call specifically.
What is your view?
What do you think?
I'll lay out next segment.
What's really going on?
And again, I was let in on this by the White House.
And I've said to my sources, I mean, is it okay if I say this?
They say, yeah.
Trump really wants the revelation of his method relayed to you, but I'm not a puppet of the president.
I support him because I think he's a good guy and cares about the country and the globalists hate him, but I do not agree with this.
So I'll just get that right out there, right out there, out front.
dan friesen
So Alex's position on this is really interesting because he's like, this is black magic and I'm not into it.
So when he says that Trump is endorsing this vaccine...
Because that'll make the opponents of Trump be anti-vaccine, and then they'll end up not getting to this, like, microchip that Bill Gates wants to put in him.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It's the same thing that Alex was selling back when Trump was being like, I don't care, like, red flag laws for guns?
Yeah, I mean, let's fucking do this.
You know, that was, Alex's way of rationalizing that was saying that Trump was endorsing these things in order to bait the Democrats into admitting that they wanted everybody's guns, and then nothing would happen.
So it's like, it's...
This strategy is what he's describing as black magic.
Like, using, like, oh, yeah, do what you want.
Ha-ha, that's what you want.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
It's...
jordan holmes
It is unfortunate that any intrusion of reality, even by the god-king, is an invitation to retreat further away from reality.
You know?
Like, even your fucking...
It's like an unimpeachable leader.
Who's always right and perfect about everything, is saying that we need a vaccine, and even then you're like, aha, he's magic tricking you.
dan friesen
It's Machiavellian.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's trying to trick you into attacking the spot that's the strongest.
jordan holmes
That's just really sad, like on a deep level.
dan friesen
It's mostly, you know, sad, yes.
But it also makes Alex think about the Lord of the Rings.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
alex jones
He's already pulled off miracles to get done when he's done, and that's why he's using shenanigans.
I know he's done endorsing the vaccines, but I'll break down next segment to try to...
Black magic's the word I'd use, and I don't mean that in a literal sense, but it's the same type system I'll describe in the next segment.
dan friesen
Not literal?
alex jones
To defeat the left.
Again, I would also use the Ring of Mordor allegory.
In fact, guys, get the intro to the first Lord of the Rings, where they describe...
At the very start, when it comes up with the credits, then it shows the Dark Lord and the Rams.
jordan holmes
The movie, don't you?
alex jones
That's an allegory of how Satan's spiritual control operates and how he gives power to those on the earth, the powers and the principalities of the air do, to control them.
And Tolkien wrote books about his Christian allegories.
It is a Christian allegory.
It's what it's all about.
And, of course, the original Satan has been destroyed or cast in another dimension, but his top servant is Surin.
And is seeking to destroy humanity and the other angels that have it basically going along with his operation.
But that's, again, coming up next segment.
Let's just continue.
dan friesen
Hey, guys, did you ever notice that Sauron sounds a lot like Soros?
Hey, I got pills.
jordan holmes
Did he read?
The Silmarillion?
What is he talking about?
He knows that Sauron isn't the original big bad guy.
dan friesen
Well, that's in the part where, at the beginning of the...
Isn't it?
In the beginning of the credits?
the boo-boo-boo-boo.
unidentified
*laughter*
dan friesen
As I recall, the part that Alex is talking about is like that prequel-ish video stuff of the battle where the ring gets cut off the finger.
jordan holmes
That was Sauron.
dan friesen
I know.
Alex thinks it's not because Sauron's just the eye to him or whatever.
I think.
I think that's what he's talking about.
It is another thing that's interesting.
I don't know if he's ever read it.
jordan holmes
I would be shocked if he read The Silmarilli.
I'm a huge fan of Lord of the Rings, and I made it through about three quarters of it, and I was like, what am I doing with my life?
So...
I would avoid it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Everything goes back to a movie or just something.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I apologize.
I shouldn't have assumed that books were involved with The Lord of the Rings.
dan friesen
Not when Alex is in play.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no kidding.
dan friesen
So Alex talks a little bit about a recent comment by one Attorney General, William Barr, who Alex is in a phase of liking.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So he's very into this.
alex jones
A.G. William Barr, coronavirus lockdown, greatest intrusion on civil liberties since slavery.
I mean, I really like Barr.
He's got a very deep state pedigree, but man, he just comes off as good and congenial and honest.
Really?
I have a good gut feeling about him when I see him speak and the things he says.
It all just makes sense to me.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
It's great.
Until he doesn't.
And then I'll bring up that his dad's connected to Epstein.
jordan holmes
You would think.
dan friesen
And then I'll talk about how he was involved in Iran-Contra.
He was the attorney general for the guy who started the New World Order.
jordan holmes
I hate him.
I hate him so much.
I hate him so much!
dan friesen
Yeah, it just doesn't matter.
jordan holmes
William Barr's lies lie.
Jesus.
dan friesen
So, we got Putin in Russia.
He's putting out a placebo.
And I guess Alex thinks it's cool.
That might kill some people.
jordan holmes
See, now again, see, I feel like that means that his dictator is now lying to his entire country and injecting them with something that, honestly...
You don't know what's in it.
It could be, regardless of whether or not it is a placebo, it could absolutely still kill somebody.
dan friesen
Well, Alex generally is against that, but he's not.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
But by Trump coming out like Russia did, he's really following Russia's lead.
They always say he's following the Russians.
In this case, he is.
Putin, the word is, it's sugar water.
But the public's scared.
They bought into the UN hype.
So he knows it's a regular cold.
They've got ads running on Russian TV.
You know, take your vitamins.
That's what protects you.
And so Putin comes out with, oh, we got a vaccine.
And it's a super watered-down, attenuated, that is radiated, fried COVID-19 virus.
And so it's probably still not good for you.
You'll probably still have some deaths, have some problems, but they're putting out a watered-down version because they're not targeting their population.
dan friesen
This doesn't sound good.
Even if this were true, this doesn't sound good.
jordan holmes
That's horrific.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's horrific.
Your government is lying to you, selling you something that's not true, that will still probably kill some people.
dan friesen
Probably kill some people.
jordan holmes
That, even though it will probably kill some people, won't actually help anyone.
dan friesen
Right, because it's a watered-down placebo.
jordan holmes
Sugar water.
The vaccine will just kill more people plus...
dan friesen
No big deal.
jordan holmes
Alright, cool.
dan friesen
The problem is that Bill Gates has ideas.
You know?
jordan holmes
I don't disagree.
dan friesen
He has these things that he wants to do, like with these vaccines.
They're going to microchip you so they can follow you around everywhere and do everything.
It's the mark of the beast.
At the same time, it will also hit an off switch in your body.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
It'll kill you.
That's true.
Alex talks a little bit more.
I think about what that was about, and this is...
I mean...
It's something.
jordan holmes
Sell me on this.
alex jones
They're going to hold us hostage with this until they have the vaccine he approves of the four companies he's putting out that isn't even a classic vaccine.
Again, it goes in and reprograms the cells.
That's called cancer.
And creates these proteins that the studies actually say are dangerous and turn off chromosome number eight.
I'm not going to look into what chromosome number eight does.
Look up chromosome number eight being turned off.
jordan holmes
I think they call that Neptune.
alex jones
What happens if you don't have chromosome eight fully expressed?
Low IQ, sluggish, stupid, and you'd live about half as long.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
Oh, that's if it partially is turned off.
If it's turned off, you're lucky you'd never make it out of mama.
It turns out the more vibrant you are, the more powerful you are, the more connected you are, the stronger chromosome 8 is.
dan friesen
This is a little much.
jordan holmes
There should be a class in school that just teaches you how to tell when somebody is so transparently full of shit.
Just nonsense.
You should have that when you're in third grade.
They should play you that clip and be like, this is what it sounds like when somebody is just so obviously full of shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And to be fair, there are a number of conditions that are associated with what's known as chromosome 8 monosomy, which is a very rare situation where there's a deletion of a portion of the chromosome pair that you would normally get from your parents.
Sure.
But this is silly.
This is from David Icke.
This is all just David Icke shit.
I found some stuff on some blogs that were basically the argument is they found something in the PCR test for COVID-19 that matches some portion of what's in chromosome.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But it's like, it's 146 million pairs of...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's...
I don't know how much this means, but the argument seems to go that because...
There's actually two versions of this argument, and both don't make much sense.
One is that the PCR test is looking for this thing.
This stretch of letters that represent the DNA that's in all human DNA.
Everyone has chromosome 8 going on, so it's in everybody.
So the test is looking for that.
That's why there's so many cases, which fails to make sense of why there are negative cases.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that one's real bad.
That one's real bad.
dan friesen
That's not great.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
Now the other one is that they're looking for this, so they'll have the positives.
And then, like, God, I don't even know how to express this in a way that sounds fine coming out of my mouth.
They are making the argument that this thing is indicative of being positive for COVID-19.
Therefore, any cure for COVID-19 would require turning off or killing this stretch of DNA, which is chromosome 8. Therefore, any cure for COVID-19 would debilitate and, quote unquote, turn off this chromosome, which is nonsensical.
But yeah, so those are the sort of the two ideas that are growing out of this.
And as far as I can tell, Yeah.
Cool.
I would love for Alex to sit down and talk a little bit about chromosomes, though.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would like to hear what else he has to say.
dan friesen
I'd like to see an extended portion of his show.
jordan holmes
How many chromosomes do you got, Alex?
Just name them.
dan friesen
I don't know, but more than you.
I have so many more, they're so much better.
jordan holmes
I wouldn't be surprised.
It was like, I'm so much better because I have more chromosomes.
That's how that works.
dan friesen
He does later say that his chromosome 8 is particularly good.
jordan holmes
Steve, you just can't not be a narcissistic piece of shit.
dan friesen
I gotta go, Alex.
jordan holmes
Sorry, buddy.
I was the first person to cure COVID-19.
dan friesen
That's Steve.
So, in this next clip, Alex seems to imply that he's working as a surrogate for Trump when he's doing this COVID-19 denialism.
I don't know.
I mean, this sounds weird.
I'm uncomfortable with it.
alex jones
And so I know what Trump's doing.
I'd rather him just come out and expose Fauci and expose Bill Gates and expose the Wuhan lab and everything they did.
And he's doing it through surrogates.
We're doing it right now.
But I just still think it is not the route I would take.
But I guess I'm not the guy that never ran for office and ran and won, and the guy that turned the whole country around, the guy that's been right about everything and done all this.
dan friesen
He hasn't been right about everything, and this is also not the first time he ran.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and he hasn't been right about anything.
dan friesen
No, I know that Alex isn't saying that he's working as a surrogate of Trump to put out this bullshit conspiracy nonsense about coronavirus, but that is what that sounds like.
That is what those words seem to mean.
Hey, Trump, I wish you would come out and attack and say all this conspiracy theory bullshit.
But he is doing it through surrogates, and we're doing it right now.
It does tend to imply that maybe you see yourself as a campaign surrogate.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it does sound like what he's saying is that we got our orders, and I wouldn't have given those orders, but I've got my orders.
So I'm going to do what I'm told.
dan friesen
It's confusing, at very least.
So, whether or not Alex is an actual campaign surrogate, he's definitely about to talk to somebody who probably is an unofficial one, and that's fucking Roger Stone.
Roger's on because there was a bunch of news articles that went around recently.
They were talking about how he came on Alex's show and said that Trump should take all the ballots from Nevada and, you know, take over if the election, you know, all this...
unidentified
For sure.
dan friesen
And Roger does what Roger does, and that is be like, hey guys, I was taken out of context.
roger stone
The mainstream media bastardized my comments, took them out of context, ignored that I said that the Insurrection Act and martial law could be used only if there was blatant and flagrant...
unidentified
evidence of fraud.
I did not say the president should invoke martial law if he lost an honest election.
I never said anything of the kind.
dan friesen
Two important clarifications there.
jordan holmes
Unreal.
dan friesen
Like, Roger's saying that he was taken out of context.
His defense of himself is out of context.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because he's saying that I didn't...
I said that if there was good evidence, Trump could do this.
But he also said that there was good evidence that this voter fraud was happening.
He said that all of the evidence is there.
And when he says, like, I didn't say that Trump should seize power if there's a fair election, he also said there won't be a fair election.
jordan holmes
Yeah, his definition of a fair election is one where Trump wins.
So the only way that he would want his plan to happen is if Biden wins.
Which is what his plan was about.
dan friesen
Which would, by definition, be an unfair election.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
So, yeah.
Even his defense is worse.
dan friesen
Yeah.
This nonsense about being taken out of context is so dumb.
It's so malicious.
jordan holmes
Just go back to saying the N-word.
dan friesen
He was taken out of context.
jordan holmes
I think that doesn't matter.
dan friesen
So anyway, Roger complains about how poorly he was treated by the media.
And then we get a return of something we haven't experienced in quite a while.
unidentified
The media, I've been in this business for 40 years.
It has always been a standard practice for a reporter, any reporter, any publication, to call you when you are, you know, when they're writing about you.
And that has not happened.
They write anything they want about you without giving you the opportunity to comment.
alex jones
What does this signify, though?
They're worried about what you said.
They really...
Media Matters, Soros, they're really worried because this is their game plan.
dan friesen
Alex is eating.
So...
unidentified
Why would you reach out to Stone for comment?
jordan holmes
Reach for comment.
Stone said, Nuh-uh.
dan friesen
Reach for comment.
Stone said, It was Randy Credico.
It's interesting to me that Roger would be a one-time employee of InfoWars and complain about people reaching out for comment.
Like, I've never seen in an InfoWars story Alexander Soros was reached for comment.
Bullshit contracts that we claim are real.
I've never seen them be like, George Soros literally works for the devil.
When reached for comment, did not respond.
unidentified
Or whatever.
They never reach out for comment from people.
jordan holmes
Not once.
dan friesen
It's a foreign concept for wars.
jordan holmes
It's just brutal.
unidentified
Oh, they do these stories and they don't reach out for me to comment.
jordan holmes
You can just say it like that, like he's...
Oh, what a dick.
What a fucking asshole.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I hate him so much!
dan friesen
So, Alex claims that he's talked to some people in the Trump White House, and not only do they have ideas about this vaccine stuff.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
They also have told him that, hey, look, there's gonna be voter fraud.
No doubt.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And we're gonna do what we can.
jordan holmes
We're gonna do it.
dan friesen
We're gonna do what we can.
But then, you know, the Supreme Court's probably gonna get involved.
alex jones
I talked to one of Trump's top people yesterday morning.
He called me.
And he said that they're optimistic and they believe that there's going to be fraud.
The lawyers are going to try to block it, try to hold the election.
But they said maybe after a few days, they believe the Supreme Court is going to come in and veto these Democrat Soros attempts to drag this out for months fraudulently.
What do you think about that statement?
Does that show overconfidence by the White House?
unidentified
First of all, I wouldn't count on the Supreme Court.
We seem to have a chief justice who votes for the liberal bloc quite a bit.
So that would give me...
alex jones
Well, that's exactly what I said.
I said, how many of these people are blackmailed?
At least two of them.
roger stone
I don't know about that, but I do know that we have people appointed by Republican presidents who are deciding wrongly on key issues and voting with the liberal bloc.
dan friesen
So now, I don't care about any of this, except for the fascinating thing where Alex is laying out a conspiracy, and that is that the Supreme Court's being blackmailed.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And Roger's response was, I don't know about that.
Normally, in conversation, that would happen, and then you'd move along.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex cannot, because he needs Roger to be on board with this.
alex jones
Roger, I don't want to get into fracas with you, but you're a smart little guy no more than I do about actual politics.
I don't know about the general world, I would say, as much or more.
But remember, it came out after the Obamacare votes and others that there was some dirt on two Republican members that were appointed by Bush.
And there was mainstream news asking, were they blackmailed?
unidentified
That's fine.
I don't have an opinion on it.
alex jones
No, I get it.
You're just saying their voting record is pretty damn liberal.
unidentified
Well, let's get back to the case at hand.
dan friesen
There's an interesting thing going on where Roger's not playing ball with Alex the way that he wants him to.
jordan holmes
I'm confused by that.
dan friesen
I think it's because Roger doesn't give a fuck anymore.
He got out of prison.
jordan holmes
I'm going to say what I want to say, and I don't give a shit about what you have to say.
dan friesen
Hey, guess what?
I fleeced your audience for the Roger Stone Defense Fund, and I'm not doing great, but I don't need this anymore.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
And I just get that sense that like Roger is willing to take some exposure or whatever, but he is not willing to be like Alex's fake best friend anymore.
So when Alex wants to go off on a conspiracy about the Supreme Court being blackmailed or whatever, he's like, this is too much.
I don't even care.
Yeah.
unidentified
And it happens again.
dan friesen
Alex is talking about.
Yeah.
Kamala Harris has been accidentally said the Harris administration and like, oh, this is all proof that Biden's going to step down.
And you would expect Roger to be like, absolutely.
And not only that, but...
jordan holmes
Yeah, yes and.
dan friesen
Yeah, because we've heard even in the past Roger helping Alex be like, yeah, this is a placeholder for Michelle Obama.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
That's not what he's doing anymore.
alex jones
Even CNN a month ago said, oh, don't worry, Biden will step down.
I think they're getting everybody ready for that right now.
roger stone
You know, just having studied the personality of Joe Biden since he went to the Senate in age 29, I don't think he will ever step down.
unidentified
This is his life's dream.
He's always wanted to be president.
dan friesen
This is a person having a conversation with someone without the need to be like, yeah, you're right.
Roger probably feels embarrassed to agree with Alex about narratives like, yeah, Joe Biden.
Lifelong politician is going to run for president, win, and then step down.
Yes, Alex, your fear of Hillary Clinton is correct.
And now he's like, I don't need to play that fucking game.
I can act like an adult.
No, the Supreme Court isn't being blackmailed, but there are some justices who are ruling the way that you want.
So maybe you can't count on them the way that you would expect.
They're not all in lockstep with Trump on this shit.
jordan holmes
That's so annoying how stupid they are about that stuff, because Roberts' opinions can all really boil down to...
Guys, lie better.
You wrote this in crayon.
I want to agree with you, but you did such a bad job that when I die, history is going to view my Supreme Court as the dumbest fucking Supreme Court.
So I have to say no, and then you can sue and lie better.
That's what I want from you, you children.
dan friesen
Yeah, and to me, this shows Roger's past behavior in such a...
Like, a very clear light.
Like, yeah, you're just going along with things that you knew were fucking stupid.
But now, don't need to.
I got a fucking pardon.
I'm out.
jordan holmes
Yeah, now that he's not in jail, he's probably like...
dan friesen
I had to meet that asshole Corsi through all this?
jordan holmes
I'm not getting paid by Infowars anymore?
dan friesen
Yeah.
so alex gets down with roger and he goes to his calls finally and he gets a call from a guy named liberal who in many times i've listened he calls in a bunch uh-huh he's somebody who says things often that alex doesn't like he doesn't enjoy too much and i thought that this was going to be one of them because he's he's coming from a place where he's like no fuck this shit man trump and bill gates are working together liberal liberal in new york
unidentified
Hey, Alex.
I think this is just all theater for the ill-informed.
I think that Donald Trump, under his administration, they've donated $1.6 billion or so to Gavi, which is Bill Gates, his organization.
That's the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization.
And in my opinion, you cannot donate $1.6 billion to an organization such as that, who's actually one of the four permanent members on that particular organization, is the World Health Organization, and think that there isn't a relationship, a strong relationship between Bill Gates and Donald Trump.
And what we are having now is just theater where they're playing off against each other.
dan friesen
So I heard that and I thought, like, Alex is going to go.
He's going to lose it.
That sounds bad.
jordan holmes
No, he's got...
No, the way you go with that is, yeah, man!
Alex, keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
dan friesen
That's an option that you have.
But I remember a couple times that Liberal has called in and said things and it's led to Alex meltdowns.
And I just keep, whenever I hear Liberal call in, I think like, oh, Alex forgot who that is.
Because it's just led to trouble in the past.
jordan holmes
Maybe he thinks it's a different person every time.
dan friesen
He must.
Or just it has no memory.
jordan holmes
That's probably true, too.
dan friesen
But this guy calling in to be like, this is all theater.
Trump's, their administration's donated all this money to the Gavi and all this.
And Alex, shockingly, does not get mad.
alex jones
But I agree with you.
This could be the determining factor on Trump.
I just think his earlier instincts were saying, don't trust the vaccine, don't give it to young people.
It shouldn't be mandatory.
And now we're hearing it's going to be perfect.
It's going to be totally safe.
Well, that's a lie.
No vaccine is totally safe.
So, yeah, we're hearing.
The media always says Trump's lying.
He hardly ever gets things wrong or lies.
I mean, I cover it.
He is lying.
And that's what I'm saying.
I don't like hearing him.
I played the clip last hour.
I don't know if you heard it.
He said it's a perfect vaccine.
No problems.
It's going to fix everything.
Well, that's not true.
dan friesen
This is weird.
jordan holmes
This is very strange.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm confused.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm very confused by this.
dan friesen
But I think that this might be why he's dealing with this through the prism of calls as opposed to covering the story.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that makes sense.
dan friesen
Because he can then have this in the conversation with a caller and have less weight than if he was just like, Trump is lying about vaccines!
jordan holmes
Yeah, he can float some stuff around without...
It's like, this is a conversation.
We're talking about it.
I'm not...
But then again, he did just say that Trump is lying directly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So there's that.
dan friesen
And it would raise the question, if you actually believe what Alex is saying, why?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Why is he lying?
jordan holmes
I guess- If he never lies.
In Alex's point of view, it's to pacify the population, just like Putin is doing.
dan friesen
With the sugar water.
jordan holmes
Right.
So you're saying that your dear fearless leader is lying to pacify the population.
dan friesen
Right.
For your own good, he's injecting you with a fake medication in order to...
jordan holmes
But I'm pretty sure that Alex would be very, very strongly against this if it weren't Trump.
dan friesen
Well, and I think that that might be part of why he...
Because I think that might be too far for him to go.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And that might be why he's dancing around this like this.
jordan holmes
If anti-vax is the line in the sand for...
dan friesen
I don't think it is.
jordan holmes
Trump, I don't think so either, but goddamn, that'd be a real bummer.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
His lies about his lies are not as compelling as my lies about their lies.
dan friesen
Trump putting out a watered-down vaccine, or that being the image of it, and that being what happens, that's workable for Alex.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Even with the anti-vax positions.
That's something that could be like, alright, this is to get the World Health Organization office back or whatever.
jordan holmes
Bill Gates can't do it.
dan friesen
Now, if there is a huge push to get people vaccinated, there are requirements, like you can't go to school unless you've been vaccinated, then there's a problem for Alex.
That will be a problem.
I don't know if he'll be able to get around that, but until there are like...
Parts of society that you can't engage in unless you've been vaccinated.
Like, you can't be involved in healthcare.
That's fair.
That will be where...
jordan holmes
That really sucks because that's only going to happen next year.
Because we're not going to have a vaccine.
It's not going to happen.
He's lying about that in order to get elected.
He knows that there's not going to be a vaccine.
Everybody knows there's not going to be a vaccine.
So the only time period in which that happens is in a Biden administration.
So they get to go back to kicking ass about their anti-vax bullshit.
dan friesen
Yeah, maybe.
jordan holmes
Oh, man, we're fucked.
dan friesen
So Alex has a guest on, and when he said this, it was like, oh, I get what's going on.
alex jones
I asked this guest who was on yesterday to pop in for one segment, so we're going to go right to him with an update.
Because we did see a huge response, and that's really smart.
That's great.
People understand what's going on, and that gets you prepared.
That gets us prepared.
dan friesen
He had the CEO of My Patriot Supply, a survival food company, on the day before, and they saw a spike in sales.
So he's having him back on again to try and move some more product.
And in order to make the most out of this, you really gotta hype some shit up.
You gotta really make it seem like...
jordan holmes
Well, you've only got one segment.
alex jones
And so I've done the calculations.
That's why I'm like...
Give us the money.
Buy the products.
Get the stuff.
Because Trump loses, man.
No conservative or Christian is even going to be allowed to bank.
You're like, oh, they'll never have us wear masks.
They'll never lock us in our houses.
No, no, no.
They're going to do it all according to who...
They're going to bring in the Social Credit score on January 20th when Biden gets sworn in.
Just like that.
And they expect the upheaval.
They expect you to freak out.
And they expect you to come to...
Pat in hand to their local group and get on your knees to them, and they'll call Google up, and they will allow you to buy and sell that day.
And you'll think, oh, great.
But then they'll want a little more, a little more.
Teach your son to be a pedophile.
Cut your son's testicles off.
Worship world government.
Eat GMO.
Take all your vaccines.
And then they've got you.
dan friesen
This is just meant to create an intense amount of fear surrounding possibilities of the election.
And quite frankly, if Alex was sincere, he should just be like, hey, look.
Your money's worthless after the election.
unidentified
If Biden wins, money don't mean shit.
dan friesen
Give me that money now, and maybe Trump will win.
jordan holmes
That would be a great...
dan friesen
Why the fuck not?
He's already abusing this audience.
Yeah, no shit.
He's almost at that level.
jordan holmes
You can give me your money now, or lose it all next year.
I do like that.
That's a great fifth.
unidentified
It's just gonna be toilet paper later.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So, Alex takes another call, because I'm not going to listen to his food sponsor, Hawk Survival Food.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
He takes another call, and this guy had me worried.
alex jones
Walt in New York.
Thanks for holding, Walt.
You're on the air.
unidentified
Hey, Alex.
How are you doing?
alex jones
I mean, you know, I'm just doing as good as everybody.
We are in the fight now, brother.
unidentified
What do you think about the Holy Spirit, Alex?
Is it a Holy Spirit?
Does it permeate space?
And is it analogous to a radio, let's say?
We can't see it, but it's here.
Could it be permeating and we can tune into it?
alex jones
Absolutely.
dan friesen
His call has nothing to do with that question.
He moves on to another topic.
jordan holmes
He just moves on from that.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Like, that's a fine thing to do.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
I heard that.
I was like, uh-oh, Walt.
You're freaking me out.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Is it possible that the Holy Spirit is like a radio transmission and permeating through space?
You bet it is.
jordan holmes
I do like that response.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I think that would be my response, too.
Is it possible?
Yeah, probably.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, sure.
dan friesen
It's weird.
This show is weird.
jordan holmes
This is a very weird call.
dan friesen
You get calls, and some of them are Jamaican guy in New York talking about how Trump and Gates are working together, and Alex doesn't get mad at that weirdly.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why not?
dan friesen
Another guy calls in and has a non sequitur, wants to know if maybe the Holy Spirit is like radio waves.
jordan holmes
Why not?
dan friesen
What the fuck?
So anyway, much like Alex eating, we haven't heard that in a while, we get another return to form.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
alex jones
You can taste it You can see it You can face it A
dan friesen
little bit less inspired than some of his past efforts over you belong to the city.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not as good.
dan friesen
But it was still a...
It was an at-bat.
jordan holmes
Here's what I would do.
Here's what I would do.
If I'm Linklater, I'm not casting him as guy with bullhorn.
What I'm doing is casting him as esoteric coach.
So, right before...
No clear-eye full heart can't lose.
Listen, you guys deserve to be in the universe.
Everybody knows that that's the best place.
The Holy Spirit is coming through you.
It's like a radio signal permeating everything around you.
dan friesen
Have I ever told you about the Norse tree of life?
jordan holmes
Anyways, get out there and get him!
dan friesen
Yeah.
But it's gotta be chill over saxophone.
Linklater movie where Alex is a coach, but it's a weird, quirky coach who always has a sax player.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I like it.
That's a good movie.
dan friesen
So Alex takes another call, and this guy seems to be like, I'm sick of the bullshit.
Trump is trying to pacify the patriots.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Seems to be some people who are getting through on Alex's show that are not into Trump as much.
unidentified
Nobody's going to prison.
Of all the people that are complicit and guilty of international war crimes that walk around on our government, pedophilia, sedition, treason, all those other acts, and bar, Durham, aren't doing anything or not going to do anything.
And I think that, you know, I think Trump is playing everybody.
I think that a lot of people are in denial that perhaps we are definitively in the end of time, and then this is all set up and leading exactly where Operation Lockstep says, to the mark of the beast.
And I think that this is all coming in.
And I think that part of what Trump's doing, specifically with Infowars and Mr. Alex Jones, is he's placating the tens of thousands and hundreds of thousands and millions of patriots that listen to you and giving them just enough to keep us placated, just enough to keep us sedated, where we have enough hope, where we're not going to do anything.
And this is all going to reach up and smack us.
alex jones
Well, let me just be clear.
I am sure of heart.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Thanks for being clear.
jordan holmes
Now make that one a drop.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I appreciate the clarity on your heart pureness.
I would say, first of all, to this caller, Operation Lockstep isn't a thing.
You've just been tricked into thinking that because you listen to Alex.
And second, in that document, that Rockefeller document that involved...
The four possibilities of the future of technology in the developing world.
unidentified
You bet.
dan friesen
The one that was called Lockstep does not end with a fucking Mark of the Beast.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
There's no mention of Satan.
jordan holmes
They usually don't put Mark of the Beast into, like, war game studies.
dan friesen
It's not a religious revelation-type document the way you want it to be because you listen to fucking dum-dums like Alex all the time.
jordan holmes
Now, that was what was missing in those 11 pages in the 9-11 commission.
dan friesen
Totally.
jordan holmes
It was the...
It's the devil who is behind it.
dan friesen
This caller, what he's representing is the inevitable backlash that you will have whenever you have all of these right-wing type, and I mean, I guess it's probably possible on the left too, but it's been really endemic in the right-wing.
Fantasies of retribution that are coming.
The QAnon stuff is just ripe for this.
It's almost perfectly designed to be disappointing to people to the point where they then have to create an explanation for why it's disappointing.
jordan holmes
Because it's not real!
It's going to disappoint you because it's not real!
dan friesen
But you can never really accept that.
jordan holmes
Right.
Because it'd make you feel really stupid.
dan friesen
It would have to.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then, I mean, a certain percentage of people respond to that frustration and that disappointment that this X, Y, or Z thing didn't go the way it was supposed to.
They'll lash out violently.
And I think that's part of the calculus.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's kind of scary because you hear this guy and he's like, I think that people like Alex, who's preaching intense amounts of violence, that guy.
Is part of a plan to pacify the people who would be violent.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
That implies that, like, what should be going on is, I don't know, hunting liberals in the street.
jordan holmes
I just don't understand how it is that you can see through some bullshit suddenly and then be like...
Yeah, see, well, that bullshit doesn't absolutely affect any of the other bullshit that I am believing.
dan friesen
It's because you're not seeing through it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You're rationalizing inconveniences.
jordan holmes
That's true.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this guy has these things, like, hey, you know, like, I think that it's possible that people like Alex are being used by Trump to pacify these patriot types.
And Alex tries to push back.
And Mike down for this, because it's really interesting.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Alex tries to be like, well, come on.
Then, this caller uses Alex's narratives against Alex.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
And Alex has to fold and move on to another topic.
jordan holmes
No shit.
dan friesen
Because he can't handle it.
jordan holmes
Oh shit.
alex jones
But I don't think Trump himself is evil.
I think he could be deceived.
Nobody's perfect.
But the legitimate hatred of the left of Trump is real, though.
I mean, they don't like him.
unidentified
But that's the play.
alex jones
Alex, that's the play.
unidentified
That's the Hegelian dialectic.
I mean, I learned that from you.
alex jones
I agree.
And, you know, I talked to all these high-level folks.
They obsess on the Hegelian dialectic because it's real, but sometimes not even playing the dialectic shatters the dialectic.
It's a complex issue.
That's why we're opening the calls up.
unidentified
I don't know.
alex jones
What do you think?
You think?
I mean, Gates is legitimately pissed that Trump has taken the vaccine away from him.
unidentified
He didn't.
You can't take it away from him because he owns every vaccine lab on the planet between him and the Rockefeller Foundation.
Every one of his foundations owns and controls everything on the Earth to do with vaccines.
alex jones
No, that's true.
What do you think about Bill Gates' daddy dying today?
That's a nice little omen.
dan friesen
Wow.
Alex shifts the conversation to talking about how Bill Gates' dad died and then goes to commercial because he can't handle this.
He's like, yeah, Trump took the vaccine away from Gates and he hates it, but...
Based on Alex's own rhetoric, that is not something that's possible, and this caller recognizes that, and Alex can't handle his own shit being thrown back at him by someone who unfortunately believes what Alex says.
jordan holmes
How dare you have listened to my show last week!
And then remembered it.
What are you doing?
Taking notes?
dan friesen
You saw how perplexed Alex was just by the...
That's the Hegelian dialectic.
This is what you taught me.
jordan holmes
Well, I agree.
Anyways, but Trump's not perfect.
Did you hear Bill Gates' dad died?
dan friesen
Isn't that cool?
jordan holmes
What?
There's a clown!
unidentified
Smoke bomb!
dan friesen
Fucking dick.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex goes to commercial, and that was pretty telling to me.
That was really disappointing.
I mean...
That's exactly what you expect.
Alex is really dumb and skating by on people not calling him on stuff like that.
Right, right, right.
And he comes back and he's got another guest.
alex jones
All right, Nick Foyntes is on with us.
jordan holmes
Oh, fuck me.
alex jones
I really appreciate him joining us.
We'll take some calls, too, before we end this hour.
Paul Watson takes over.
He's the founder of the Groyper movement.
He's also been censored and blocked off many areas of the internet, but it's still not defeated him.
He's more popular than ever.
dan friesen
I'm not sure about that.
So, I don't care.
We've talked about Nick Fuentes a bit in the past, and it's embarrassing for, probably for both of them.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because Nick Fuentes fancies himself a bit more of a serious, like, trying to get change affected in society.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so for him to be, like, slumming it with Alex, like, if you talk to Nick privately, I'm certain he would say that Alex is a stupid piece of shit.
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
Doesn't know anything about any topics.
I'm pretty sure he would be embarrassed to be associated with Alex for anything other than publicity.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
Simultaneously, Nick Fuentes is a 22-year-old internet racist personality that is now kicked off stuff, isn't really that much of a relevant figure.
And I think Alex should be embarrassed that he's having this conversation.
But as it turns out, this sort of...
Catholic, fascist-type world that Nick Fuentes dwells in and Alex's world are very much on a similar project.
Killing the liberals?
Well, eventually.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
nick fuentes
We're trying to get the word out to every major dissident-right sort of outlet to put the word out so that when the globalists try to steal the election, when this transpires...
Everybody will be watching and looking at the mail-in ballots.
People will be watching.
alex jones
Let me just stop here.
They're already done the precursor.
They're already doing it.
I mean, they're going to do it.
So they're already doing it.
I agree.
So how do we counter that?
How do we get ahead of it?
Just expose it?
nick fuentes
Yeah, exactly.
Expose it.
And I think the trick is going to come in on Election Day.
Like you said, Trump is going to win the election.
I think it'll be a landslide electorally.
And what you'll see is that in the days and weeks after the election, that's when they're going to find all of these extra votes for Joe Biden.
And a Trump landslide will transform into a Joe Biden landslide because they'll...
Basically be committing voter fraud, massive voter fraud because of the mail-in ballots.
dan friesen
So the two of them have a similar project in as much as creating a preemptive narrative that invalidates any non-Trump victory outcome of the election.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And this idea that the days after the election, all that is just to call into question and make suspicious the reality that it may take longer.
I'd like to count ballots this cycle because of the realities of the world.
And you're just creating a preemptive track in order to...
Because they know what they're going to do.
They know what they need to have narratives work come November.
They need to do this to set the table.
In order to do whatever they plan to do.
Which is, if Trump wins, say, they tried to cheat, but he won anyway.
It was such a landslide.
And if he loses, then decry the voter fraud.
All these ballots being found everywhere, blah, blah, blah.
Trump's the rightful president.
It's painfully transparent.
jordan holmes
It's just such a bummer that this...
Because I don't think the right wing is all that extreme.
This extreme.
But there's no way for them to de-escalate if Biden wins.
Like, what they have to say...
dan friesen
These people, yes.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying.
These people cannot de-escalate.
They just can't do it.
dan friesen
You would think that.
And I think for a certain segment of their audiences, you're absolutely right.
There is no de-escalation.
But you think that about Alex in a lot of...
You know, times in his life.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
You know, there's been a lot of times that he's been like, this is the globalists making their move.
Now, granted, it's been way more severe in the past six, nine months.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But, you know, Alex is such a shithead and his audience is clearly so browbeaten and indoctrinated that, like, I don't think it's impossible that Biden could win and then he could be like, now we gotta go back to our roots.
Rand Paul actually is, you know, he's...
He's a fiscal conservative.
He's a real guy in the Senate.
He has a proven track record.
We've got to get behind him, and you know who's exciting?
Josh Hawley.
You know who's exciting?
Jim Jordan.
jordan holmes
And just like Bill Barr and how he can hate him and bring up all the Epstein connections unless he's doing something that he likes, he can just be like, well, we thought Trump was the guy, but look at all the ways that Trump lied to us and failed us, which you can point to, because they did.
You know, like, there's a built-in, like, we can't do Trump stuff anymore.
Yeah, you might be right.
dan friesen
Even if you want to not do that and salvage what you've got here, it's very simple to just be like, all right, look, yes, the globalists stole the election, but what are you going to do?
jordan holmes
They've stolen them before.
dan friesen
We have the reality in front of us that we have.
You know, you can try and get the Supreme Court to overturn the election, but guess what?
Most of them are blackmailed anyway.
It doesn't matter.
The only thing you can do is buy my survival food, keep us on the air, and we'll continue the fight against the globalists, which is going to happen right here on band.video2.
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
Because band.video1, the original one, they're blocking the links to that, but I got another URL.
And you could do that there.
And then I got my survival food guy coming in again because we moved some product yesterday.
It's very exciting.
Also got a crypto-fascist coming in.
Gonna interview him about how we should shoot folks.
Cool.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
unidentified
I wonder why we're censored off all these platforms.
jordan holmes
I just have one question for Alex, which is, why isn't Carrie allowed on band.video?
dan friesen
That is a real serious question.
jordan holmes
That's the only question that I, like, if we were going to talk to Alex.
dan friesen
Free speech for Carrie Cassidy.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
I will absolutely spearhead the get Carrie Cassidy on band.tv.
dan friesen
If I lived in Austin, I probably would, as a goof, try and protest for Carrie outside Alex's office.
jordan holmes
We've got a tiny bullhorn.
We could get enough people to leave the little lake area and head over to Alex's studio.
dan friesen
Hey, we're going from Barton Springs over to Alex's studio to try and get this space weirdo put on his website in the name of free speech.
Yeah, that's a great idea.
jordan holmes
That sounds like us.
dan friesen
So, Alex and Nick Fuentes, like I said, their project is in sync right now, which is not too surprising.
And it's just like, if you're listening to this show, it's so clear that it's already in place.
The narrative is already in place.
That there is only one rightful outcome of the election that hasn't happened yet.
alex jones
They know they're losing this election.
They've said it.
I mean, for folks that just tuned in, the Democrats are on record.
They know they're losing.
There's a political realignment.
All they can hope to do is break their cities and states off and challenge it.
To literally bring the economy down.
And so at that point I say arrest their ass.
And I'm an anti-police state, but if you're holding the country hostage and holding me hostage, I say walk a plank.
nick fuentes
Absolutely.
Well, yeah, it's a coup.
dan friesen
So you have this presentation that everybody knows that Trump is going to win the election, so anybody who's not on board with that should be arrested.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's fucked up.
unidentified
Yep!
dan friesen
It's kind of scary.
jordan holmes
No matter what, it's a coup.
They will not accept...
I mean, yeah, it makes sense.
They're fascists.
Why would they care what an election says?
You know, like, of course not.
dan friesen
Well, and they, you know, I mean, one argument against them being fascists is that they want to outlaw their rival party.
When have fascists ever done that?
jordan holmes
That's a really good point.
They want to do it through the courts, Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah.
nick fuentes
Even if we win this battle and Trump gets in and everything, then in 2024, we have another fight, and that fight is over the succession after Trump leaves office.
If he doesn't leave office now, he leaves office in 2024.
alex jones
Hold on, I want to hear this, because if we had a second party...
jordan holmes
I'm going to interrupt you because I want to hear this.
alex jones
We don't have a party.
The Democrats are the Chi-Com End America Party, so we need a second party, or are you saying the Republicans split in two?
And all there is is a secession fight.
Because I agree, we have to extinct the Democratic Party.
They're done.
They're like the Nazi Party at the end of World War II.
Like, this party's done.
nick fuentes
Oh, yeah.
There's nothing redeeming about that party.
dan friesen
I got bad news about the Nazi Party post-World War II.
Wow.
You're talking to a guy who's friends with people who are still aligned with that party.
jordan holmes
I love the way that he puts that, too.
We've got another election in 2024.
We have to figure out who's going to succeed the king.
It's succession.
It's not an election.
Why would you have an election?
That's why we want to vote Trump in it.
dan friesen
No, I mean, I think I've heard some of Nick's conversations in the past where he does have some ideas towards Catholic monarchy.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Like, that is not...
Super out of sync with his positions.
jordan holmes
You know what we should do?
It should be Melania Trump!
dan friesen
Yeah.
A lot of these folks in this end of the right wing are very close to wanting a king.
Yeah.
They probably wouldn't want to say that.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
But they would say everything except that word.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
That would be a dirty word.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's really fucked up.
dan friesen
Our duly elected king.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
How can you be so, like, fucking 1776, we got rid of the king.
2020, let's get a king!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And this idea about, like, let's extinct the Democrat Party is...
It's tough because, I mean, let's imagine that the Democrat institution, the establishment of the Democratic Party, what would you call it?
Like the fundraising apparatus, all that.
The institution of it goes away.
There's still going to be people with the exact same politics.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
They will also be going away.
dan friesen
Alex seems to think that the only reason...
jordan holmes
Once you get rid of the DNC, you don't have to worry about it anymore!
dan friesen
The only reason anybody has any politics to the left of Rand Paul is because Nancy Pelosi exists and the Democratic Party is there.
jordan holmes
They're just like, okay, we're outlawing the Democratic Party.
All of you liberals and Democrats, now you're just Republican light?
As though their policies in the Republican light party are going to change?
dan friesen
It's an interesting way for him to...
I don't know.
I mean, if you look at it from just a reality-based perspective, what he's talking about is really just the disruption of the apparatus of the Democratic Party.
It's not...
You wouldn't be able to outlaw political beliefs.
At least, I hope that's...
I hope that's not what he's advocating.
But what the real-world version of this would be would be disrupting the funding mechanism for...
And what that would do is give a bizarrely comical advantage to right-wing candidates.
jordan holmes
I would suggest we extinct both parties and split up into multiple parties.
dan friesen
It would be better as a system, I think, if we had more than two parties.
But...
That is little bearing on my feelings about the coming election.
jordan holmes
100% true.
I agree with you there as well.
dan friesen
Because we currently have a situation where the incumbent has a lot of followers who seem to think that God sent him.
alex jones
It's insane how maverick and real he is.
God literally had to give us this because Trump's not perfect, but he's definitely his own dude.
They cannot stand it.
This is God's sense of humor, Nick.
jordan holmes
It is.
nick fuentes
It is.
He's a human being.
He is a human being, flesh and blood.
And, you know, even just the other day, he's posting a picture of himself eating a Philly cheesesteak.
And it's something that's very, maybe silly or something, but it's a reminder that this is a real person as opposed to what we see on the other side.
alex jones
Because a stuffed-up elitist would not even do that.
Or it would come off as fake when Trump becomes as real as it is.
dan friesen
Isn't it so amazing that Trump took a picture of himself eating a cheesesteak?
jordan holmes
I really want to acknowledge that he just gets away with not dealing with that Trump tape.
dan friesen
I mean...
jordan holmes
You know what I'm saying?
He just gets away with...
He doesn't have to respond to that like, oh yeah, I knew it was super deadly.
He just doesn't have to deal with that.
dan friesen
Not that I've heard of.
jordan holmes
He just doesn't have to...
That's just such bullshit.
dan friesen
You know why?
Dude ate a cheesesteak.
He's real.
I don't think you understand the political importance of a guy...
Eating a cheesesteak.
And he doesn't come off phony when he's eating a cheesesteak.
jordan holmes
I'm just going to light myself on fire.
He was sent by God.
dan friesen
And the evidence of this is a very sincere picture of him eating a cheesesteak.
jordan holmes
You know, the Antichrist famously convinces all false Christians that he was sent by God.
dan friesen
That's an interesting piece of trivia.
Yeah, when I hear stuff like that, I'm like, this bar is so low.
jordan holmes
Unreal.
It's comical.
That's just sad.
unidentified
They should feel like they're pathetic wastes of human beings.
dan friesen
It's just so funny to imagine them making fun of someone on the left being like, Obama ate a cheesesteak.
Isn't that amazing?
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Of course.
It would be a week-long news cycle for Alex.
jordan holmes
Everybody would go, he wore a tan suit.
It'd be fucking cheese water.
Cheese steak water.
dan friesen
Alex spent a week talking about Mike Bloomberg eating weird.
Yeah, it's very sad.
jordan holmes
It's exhausting how stupid they are.
dan friesen
So, Nick Fuentes has some interesting thoughts about Matt Drudge and his current not being super into everything Trump does.
jordan holmes
Ambivalence.
nick fuentes
It's tricky because for so long, I mean, his website I think was really groundbreaking.
The format and everything was key to it in providing conservative news for a landscape where you don't have a lot of conservative news.
But lately, it's been out of control.
And it's something that I've noticed maybe for about a year or something.
But lately, in the past few weeks, I think it was Drudge that circulated that story initially about Trump calling the troops losers.
And a lot of that kind of rumor-type stuff from the Trump administration has been pushed there.
And even this week, there were some really terrible headlines there.
And I saw that, and I think that's such a shame, because we as conservatives, or we as broadly right-wing, patriotic-type people, we don't really have that much infrastructure and that many assets, as far as information goes, with the exception of you and others.
dan friesen
You and others.
One of the things that Nick's pointing out here is kind of fair, and that is that the right-wing...
Put way too much in the Matt Drudge basket.
jordan holmes
Yeah, probably.
dan friesen
It was such, like, everything.
For right-wing talk radio people, that was where they would get their headlines.
Their talking points essentially all boiled down to, like, what does Drudge think is important?
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Like, there's so much stock that they've put in him that now this is a crisis for them.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
To try and figure out, like, what do we do if we want to keep promoting Trump?
But Drudge is waffling a little bit.
How can we get rid of Drudge?
What do we do?
We have to say Drudge has changed.
And Alex has obviously said, I'm not going to criticize him, but he's clearly playing for the other team.
jordan holmes
He works for the devil, but I wish him the best.
dan friesen
Right.
Whereas with Nick, I think it's an interesting approach, and I think that he's trying to say that Drudge has changed.
And so he's posting these rumors now.
These Trump rumors.
And what I would suggest is sit with those feelings for a little while and try and think about old Drudge.
Do you think he was using better editorial standards before?
jordan holmes
I don't understand.
dan friesen
Do you think that maybe that's all he's ever done is post bullshit and rumors?
jordan holmes
Nah, come on now, Dan.
dan friesen
Do you think that maybe...
unidentified
They used to agree with me all the time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right?
It is just a...
It's not a bug for them.
The feature is like, it doesn't matter if I 100% respected this person and thought he was a god.
He disagreed with me and the way that I think things should be run, so now he's against me.
That's the way they love to act.
True.
dan friesen
It does happen a bunch.
And there's a lot of functionaries who are really easily dismissible who you can just throw out.
Like, Scaramucci!
Get rid of him!
But they're struggling with Drudge.
And I think it's because, like, he predates the Tea Party.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He predates so much of the things that are, like, he predates any idea that Trump was gonna be a fucking political figure.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
He goes back to, like, Bill Clinton days.
Like, there's something so essential about Drudge in the right-wing media sphere.
jordan holmes
Yeah, my dad read Drudge nonstop, like, to the point where I remember specifically...
I can see the Drudge page on 9-11.
I can see it in my head.
He read it so much.
dan friesen
And you can trace a straight line from Drudge to so many things.
Almost anybody like Hannity, Tucker, Glenn Beck, Alex Jones, they all were just feeding off Rush Limbaugh.
They're all feeding off...
Drudge headlines.
Yeah.
And people like Alex knew that getting things on Drudge meant you've made it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Then you think about, like, okay, Project Veritas.
Okay, well, where did that come from?
That came from Breitbart.
Andrew Breitbart was behind the promotion of James O 'Keefe in his early career in the launch of Project Veritas.
Andrew Breitbart got his start working for Drudge.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Breitbart the publication came from Andrew Breitbart who worked for Drudge.
All this, like so much of this spider web of media tendrils all can kind of either directly or spiritually trace back to the influence of Drudge and I don't think that they have as easy a time.
We've just been like, fuck that guy, he's against us.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
That's why Alex can't say those things, like, even if he should say that he works for the literal Christian devil.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I imagine that what they think is, if they antagonize, because they have to make it personal, so I imagine that they think, like, oh, if we antagonize Drudge too much, then he's not just going to be, like, on the sidelines, supposedly.
He's going to be actively against us.
dan friesen
And I think that maybe they're worried that Drudge knows the game and might expose the game.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's probably true.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
I don't think they have anything to worry about on that front, but I would be afraid if I were them, too.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, since Drudge is kind of like, you know, a little...
Who knows?
Nick's got a new outlet to promote.
unidentified
Sure.
nick fuentes
And I have to say, it's been a very positive and interesting development that this Revolver has come around.
And I don't know exactly who runs it, but I've been watching that lately.
I don't know about you, but I've been reading that.
alex jones
I've seen a lot of really good stories.
I mean, nothing against Revolver.
It's like, Revolver broke the plan that Democrats plan to do.
Everybody's like, Zero Hedge has been covering.
It's not about credit, but yeah.
No, Revolver's doing a good job.
So who do you think's behind that?
nick fuentes
I don't know exactly.
alex jones
Maybe Matt Drudge sold the Drudge Report and he runs Revolve.
unidentified
Possibly.
nick fuentes
That's possible.
I would hope so.
That would redeem him, I think, in my eyes a little bit.
But it's a great publication, and I'm not behind it.
I'm not trying to shill it or anything.
I'm just saying it's a positive joke.
dan friesen
Ah, good joke.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
So I don't know what the preoccupation is on the right with outlets that have people...
Under fake names or aliases writing them.
jordan holmes
The only way you can tell the truth is if nobody knows who you are.
dan friesen
So I checked this out, this Revolver thing, and it's just like an aggregate of tons of headlines and stuff.
It's a very useless website.
But they could have chose a different name because Revolver is already a music publication.
If you search for Revolver, you find out about Stabbing Westward's new song.
How is it?
I don't know.
Apparently Korn and P.O.D.
have a side project.
jordan holmes
Not concerned.
dan friesen
I don't even know if this is a real website.
These seem like absurd headlines.
These can't be real headlines.
jordan holmes
What do you got?
What do you got for me?
dan friesen
Marilyn Manson has a new album?
jordan holmes
Yeah, you didn't know that?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he had a new album.
It came out a couple weeks ago.
dan friesen
Something about Typo Negative?
Are they still around?
jordan holmes
Yes, they are still around.
dan friesen
Okay, fine.
I haven't heard these names in a long time.
jordan holmes
Just because they're irrelevant doesn't mean they don't exist.
dan friesen
I'm not saying they're irrelevant and I don't mean to impugn their careers.
It's just I've not heard anything about Korn and P.O.D.
and the fact that they have a side project.
jordan holmes
See, this is what I'm saying.
dan friesen
I haven't heard about Stabbing Westward since, like, 1998 with that, what do I have to do?
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
unidentified
To make you want me, what do I have to do?
dan friesen
That song, no one remembers that.
jordan holmes
No, I don't.
dan friesen
That was from the 90s.
jordan holmes
Yes, because that's where it should stay.
dan friesen
The first headline on Revolver's top stories is about Stabbing Westward.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
This seems like a joke.
jordan holmes
Everything old is new again, Dan.
dan friesen
Nothing against Stabbing Westward.
I really did enjoy that What Do I Have to Do song.
jordan holmes
Well, try their new album!
Can't do it.
Can't do it.
I just can't do it.
I don't know what these kids are listening to.
unidentified
It turns out it's the same shit I did 30 years ago.
dan friesen
Fucking headlines about GWAR.
What's going on here?
jordan holmes
Everything old is new, Dan.
dan friesen
Surge from System of a Down.
I mean, I knew they were still active.
Hatebreed.
Hatebreed.
jordan holmes
I don't think Revolver is necessarily covering my genres of music.
dan friesen
That might be what we're talking about here.
It might not be a broad music publication.
jordan holmes
It's looking very specific.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, the point is, Revolver already exists as an entity that, even though I didn't realize it was kind of like a metal music or that genre...
I still knew that it was a thing.
I knew Revolver was a magazine.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but this is an aggregate, so it's different.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we have one last clip here, and it's Alex and Nick Fuentes.
They have some complaints about Fox News.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And it's because they had an interview with Newt Gingrich that didn't go well.
jordan holmes
Right, because he was lying out of his teeth.
dan friesen
Well, because he started bringing up Zoros.
jordan holmes
Well, you don't want to do that.
dan friesen
And I think that this actually brings up a really important point.
nick fuentes
These days, and even just the other day...
I don't know if you saw this, but Fox News.
It got really weird when Newt Gingrich was on talking about...
alex jones
Yeah, cue that up.
Let's play that clip.
Anybody talks about Soros, who publicly funds anti-fund, BLM, and who publicly is getting all these district attorneys elected, if you say it, you are the devil.
So here's what Nick Fuentes was just talking about.
newt gingrich
Look, the number one problem in almost all these cities is George Soros elected left wing, anti police, pro criminal district attorneys who refuse to keep people locked up.
unidentified
Just yesterday, they put somebody back on the street who's wanted for two different murders in New York City.
You cannot solve this problem.
And both Harris and Biden have talked very proudly about what they call progressive district attorneys.
Progressive district attorneys are anti-police, pro-criminal.
And overwhelmingly elected with George Soros' money, and they're a major cause of the violence we're seeing because they keep putting the violent criminals back on the street.
I'm not sure we need to bring George Soros into this.
I was going to say you get the last word, Speaker.
He paid for it.
I mean, why can't we discuss the fact that millions of dollars he spent?
I agree with Melissa.
George Soros doesn't need to be a part of this conversation.
Okay.
So it's verboten.
Okay, we're gonna move on.
dan friesen
Holy shit!
jordan holmes
Ooh, Gingrich was shocked!
dan friesen
Well, you know, this is what happens.
Fox News is not able to broadcast the conclusion of their thoughts.
They facilitated all of this, this lean towards conspiracy, these easy explanations for all these social ills.
It all goes back to Soros funding shit.
Like, yeah, of course.
Like, this is the fruit of what they have brought into the world.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And I think that right now, those hosts at least recognize, oh shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This belongs on Infowars.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
This doesn't belong on Fox News.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Unfortunately...
jordan holmes
We're a news show, not Infowars.
dan friesen
We have eroded things to the point where...
Nah, we're the same thing.
And, quite frankly, you would have expected maybe someone who used to be relevant, like Newt Gingrich, would know better.
jordan holmes
You would think.
dan friesen
He does not.
unidentified
Uh-uh.
dan friesen
You're not safe, even in an interview with Newt Gingrich on Fox News.
unidentified
Jesus.
dan friesen
This InfoWars-y bullshit's going to...
jordan holmes
It's everywhere.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's gonna filter.
jordan holmes
It's gone too far.
dan friesen
It's mainstream now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's strange.
It's like...
I wonder if there are any times in human history before where people have, I don't know, opened some sort of box and then once what was in the box was released, they weren't able to put it back in the box anymore.
Have you ever heard of any situation like that?
So there's really no way we could have seen this coming, Dan.
dan friesen
No, I don't know of any metaphors or expressions that you're trying to touch on.
jordan holmes
I can't think of any.
dan friesen
Nope.
Well, I'm at a loss.
Yeah, it's interesting.
And I think it's the same thing, almost, as that caller bringing Alex's shit back up to him and him having to change the subject and go to break.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's the same thing.
These people are interviewing Newt Gingrich and he brings up, like, fucking Soros conspiracies.
And it's like, this is your fault, but you also can't keep going down this road because you know where it goes.
jordan holmes
Hey, buddy.
Soros cares if we lie about it.
Soros doesn't care if InfoWars lies about it.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
But we're big.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We can't be doing this shit.
dan friesen
I mean, it's just the sort of...
It's interesting that there's sort of two parallel examples of the limitations of this game.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Just sort of...
And how you will end up creating something that you yourself can't engage in.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
And not just that, but...
dan friesen
Sad.
jordan holmes
But it's...
It's literally just that they don't know what to do when what they ostensibly think are allies are forced to deal with reality, whereas they're not.
Just like with Alex and the guy on the phone call, it's just like, if I am forced to engage with reality, this is all wrong.
This is just not how it's supposed to go.
And when it happens, they're like...
I could examine whether or not they have a point, or I could call them Soros-funded operatives, and that one's fun!
dan friesen
Yeah, it bums me out.
Anyway, we did not have time to gather phone calls, because we had a guest appearance on a podcast that will be out eventually, that we had to record before this.
So, apologies, we couldn't get any calls, but we will have some on our next episode.
Yep.
We'll be back.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight and I go to bed Jordan.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we're on Facebook.
If you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out those people doing God's work.
Hiccups.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
I belong to the city.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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