Knowledge Fight - #473: August 20-21, 2020

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#473: August 20-21, 2020

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#473: August 20–21, 2020 dissects Alex Jones’ erratic claims—from feigning illness over a Netflix trailer to peddling Living Defense mid-rant—while exposing his media manipulation, like misrepresenting headlines or editing Trump’s QAnon response. Guests Steve Pieczenik and Roger Stone reinforce Jones’ conspiracy-laden worldview, with Stone blaming Bannon’s arrest on the "deep state" despite prior lawsuits. Voicemails reveal Jones’ cult-like influence, from a caller regretting youthful belief to another praising "spider leadership" theories. The episode underscores how Jones weaponizes outrage and distraction, masking his own inconsistencies with performative drama. [Automatically generated summary]
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alex jones

infowars 19:00

dan friesen

52:36

jordan holmes

23:39

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deanna lorraine

01:34

nicolle wallace

msnow 00:35

steve pieczenik

02:07

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Speaker	Time	Text
unidentified		I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Knowledge fight.
		I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
		Shang, we are the bad guys.
		Knowledge fight.
unidentified		Dan and Jordan.
unidentified		Knowledge fight.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I need money.
		Andy and Pansy.
		Andy and Pandy.
		Stop it.
		Andy and Pansy.
		Andy and Pansy.
		Andy.
		It's time to pray.
		Andy and Pamzas.
		You're on the airplane for holding us.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
unidentified		I'm a fish pin caller.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Knowledge fight.
		Knowledgefight.com.
		Hey, everybody.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm Dan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm Jordan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're a couple dudes.
		Like sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
		Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan.
unidentified		Quick question for you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What up?
unidentified		What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My bright spot today is so bright that I required a text.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I texted you about this.
		You did?
		I texted some other folks about this, too.
		It was so bright.
		I was doing laundry, and I was walking down to my laundry room, and I heard the telltale chirp, chirper, chirp of birds.
		And I looked around, and what did I see on the, like, under, like, on top of a light fixture?
		Like, you know, laundry rooms are in basements.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, like it's your subterranean, and there's a light fixture up there.
		There's a bird's nest.
		Like some baby birds.
unidentified		Cute little baby birds.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was really nice.
		It was a really nice way to start my day.
		And I'll tell you this.
		I love the sort of personified things you can see in animals.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, I know that it's anthropomorphizing a little bit more than it should be.
		These birds were making a racket until I looked at them.
		And then they were looking at me like, well, I didn't say anything.
		I didn't say anything.
		They were looking at me like, hey, come on now.
		Like complete silence as soon as they had any kind of attention.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you talk a big game, don't you, birds?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there was sort of a like trying to look at it from human motivation.
unidentified		Sure, sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was pretty fun.
		And, you know, I don't know.
		There was a small part of me that wanted to snuggle those birds.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course, of course.
		I am appreciating your time.
		I want to grizzly atoms.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I wanted to raise them as my own children.
		But I recognize that any interference could hurt the birds.
		I don't know how to take care of a bird.
		True.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You have a cat.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's parents.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Those are issues.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Its parent bird knows what it's doing.
unidentified		Oof.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, you never know about parents.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to check up on them the next time I do laundry, but for now, it was just about best.
		I mean, they were looking good.
		Yeah, they looked healthy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You sent me a picture.
		They look great.
		Shout out, birds.
		Hey, birds.
		You keep on doing what you're doing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		How about you?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		My bright spot, Dan, is the return of the only other sport I care about, tennis.
unidentified		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The third sport, all three of them are irresponsibly restarted.
		I disagree with that decision entirely and are watching the hell out of it.
		It's amazing.
		Shapovalav is incredible.
unidentified		Love him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		His tennis is great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Better than Rafa.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Rafa's not going to play.
		Do you know why?
		Because he made the smart decision not to fly to America for any reason.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Good on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's disappointing.
		He's not going to defend his U.S. Open title, Dan, but there's always the French.
		You know, he's going to be there for the French Open.
		He's going to win his.
		It's going to be crazy.
		He's going to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, one thing you can take solace in is that no matter how irresponsible any of these sports are, they're probably more responsible than pro wrestling.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's fair.
unidentified		That's fair.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The wrestler just didn't stop.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Have you been watching the weekend?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I watched NXT's 30, NXT XXX, on Saturday.
		I watched a bit of it.
		I actually turned it off in the middle.
		Not because it was bad or anything, but I just didn't give a shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You thought you were watching Triple X State of the Union.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I thought I was watching that Vin Diesel movie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly why I did the sequel.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, the Ice Cube one?
		No, I'm just not watching that.
		I would know.
		No, I just don't know what it was.
		I just didn't care.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You just didn't have it in you.
		No.
		This one just flew over you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I might be done with wrestling.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That might be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I just had no patience for it.
		It didn't grab me.
		I don't know.
		We'll see.
		I intend to watch SummerSlam on a delay because we're recording this on Sunday.
		Actually, while SummerSlam is going on, indeed.
		So I'll probably watch it this evening after I edit the episode to unwind.
		I'll probably be bored as shit.
		I assume.
		I don't want to get that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is really bumming you out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is a little bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I wish I hadn't brought it up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Let's brighten things up by discussing how today we have an interesting episode to go over.
		We're going to be talking about August 20th and 21st, 2020.
unidentified		I'm Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is 2020.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A lot of 20s there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There were quite a few 20s.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was a tongue twister.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's an interesting time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I didn't feel done with the Alex Jones, Millie Weaver, Shadowgate drama, but I wanted to be done with it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, no one's won the 10,000 yet, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it's not real.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I needed a sense of closure to it because Alex wasn't addressing it on his show.
		Of course not.
		At all.
		We were seeing this Millie talking some shit.
		But at the point that we got to on Wednesday of last week, there wasn't really, like, he had told Millie behind the scenes, clearly based on her Twitter, that shit was done.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		But we didn't have any forward-facing presentation of it.
		And so I wanted to keep digging around a little bit, see if we could figure that out.
		So we're going to be, this is Thursday and Friday of last week.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we will close out the week on Alex's show and see if he brings up whether or not Rainbow Snatch is a persona non grata.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You want closure for this breakup, essentially.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		More or less.
		Yeah, yeah.
		I have feelings.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's unrequited.
unidentified		Those are still feelings.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, hey, I mean, look, I mean, obviously, not as intensely as anybody else involved.
unidentified		That's fair.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm involved in this.
		I've been along for the ride.
		I've been making fun of you people for a long time.
		I need to.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know you're supporting this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is degrassi for you all over again.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, exactly.
		You can't write page off the show without me processing that.
		So we'll get down to business on that, Jordan.
		But before we do, we got to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who've signed up and are supporting the show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wonderful.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, first, Jeffrey M., thank you so much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Jeffrey.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Next, Dawn M. Thank you so much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much, Don.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Donnie.
		Next, Matthew P. Thank you so much.
		You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Matthew.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Next, Charlotte D.B., thank you so much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much, Charlotte.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Dave Matthews band.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Wait, there's an MN.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dave's band Cooper.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Next, Andrew M. Thank you so much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Andrew.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Next, Ben.
		Thank you so much.
		You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Ben.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Next, Nathaniel G, thank you so much.
		You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hi, you, Nathaniel.
unidentified		Thank you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on elevated levels.
		We appreciate that very much.
		So, Industrial Robot, thank you so much.
		You are now a technocrat.
		And Diddling Cuarka, thank you so much.
		You are now a technocrat.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
		Crikey, mate, that's fantastic.
		Have yourself a brew.
		How's your 401k doing, bro?
		We got to go full-telt buggy on this, Watson, all right?
		Let's just get down to business.
		We ain't making that money off that heroin.
		Why are you pimps so good?
		My neck is freakishly large.
		I declare infall war on you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much, Industrial Robot.
		And thank you so much.
		Diddling Kuwaka.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Kawaka.
		I have no idea.
		Honestly, it's like the wallaby.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's that cute little animal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want to say it's Kawaka.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Kauaka, I think it's.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want to say it's Kuwaka.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But I'm probably wrong.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's one of those words that's always given me trouble.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is it a marsupial?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think so.
		I mean, it's a wallaby.
		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, then, yeah, it would have to be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There are a couple things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, it's a wallaby?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Then why is it called a kawaka?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because it's a special kind of wallaby.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can't have special kinds of wallabies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's adorable.
		They're very, very cute.
		There's a number of animals that I look at the names and I'm like, I know what that is.
		I'm not saying it.
		I don't know how to say it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've only ever read this word, and I'm not going to bother.
		I'm going to sound like an idiot.
		Of course.
		No, I get it.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So thank you very much.
		If you're out there listening and thinking, hey, I enjoyed the show.
		I'd like to support with these gents, too.
		You can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show.
		We would appreciate it.
		Or you could take that generosity.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, you're coming out the gate hot with this one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It might be all.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are you fizzling?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It might be all artificial confidence.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just momentum.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm loving it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Keep it going.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can take that generosity and put it in a bowl with some Cheerios after breakfast.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then go donate some money to a charity in your area.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's good.
		No, you know what?
		You made it through, and that's what's important.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was all false confidence.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Jordan, before we get to the episode proper, I'd like to take a moment to look into the mailbag.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Z. Ooh, exciting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is a little something that is from Purple Penguin Matt.
		Dan and Jordan, I love your work.
		Thank you for bringing Leo Lion Zagami into my life.
		Jordan, look at this.
unidentified		Oh, shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look at this piece of art.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		For those of you, this is obviously an audio medium, but this is a painting of Leo Zagami in Pope attire.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but with the Illuminati headdress bishop hat, if you will.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And his famous quote about how he proved to the Vatican that he is Jesus.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I had to bring this proofs to the Vatican.
		I'm not going to do an Italian accent this time.
		It would really have been.
		And the Vatican has finally accepted that I am that Messiah because I showed them the codes that were hidden inside the Vatican that only the real Jesus would have.
		Don't ever forget that.
		Don't betray me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The best.
		I love this painting so much, Matt.
		Thank you so much.
		That goes up on the wall.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It already has some.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I see it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I'll take care of that later.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is on the wall for sure.
unidentified		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a centerpiece.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is not going to be a Batman situation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, you mean this painting will be not a rapaport thing.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		Oh, God.
		Just the best.
		I love the idea, too, that maybe most of the fan art will be Leo Zagami related.
		And then I just end up with a studio that's decorated.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I do like that your podcast about Alex Jones will be decorated entirely with Leo Zagami stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyone can find, like, I mean, this is literally an impossibility, but if anyone could find a flyer for like his 80s race in a row.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I will pay top dollar.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you can break into his apartment and find one that's framed, I will pay even more than that.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Yeah.
steve pieczenik ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Wait.
unidentified		Huh?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Jordan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are you supporting that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm not.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And quite frankly, I think.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're a dick.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I got to get that away.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do not get that away.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You got to get it away.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Jordan, here is not a context drop from today's show.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Cherry Pie, don't come out that ass.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, man.
		All right.
		Fair enough.
		Fair enough.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, I've never thought about it that way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, I've never thought about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, when you do, you realize.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I realize, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, one of the reasons that I wanted to keep going covering this, one, it was obviously the lack of closure vis-à-vis Millie.
		The second reason was there was a lot of nonsense happening.
		First of all, right before the 20th, the night before, we had the reporter ask Trump about QAnon.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that was weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Never heard about it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I love those people, though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They love me.
		I've never heard about their nonsense.
		I'm just stoking it quietly and slowly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And of course, Steve Bannon was arrested.
		Wow.
		And so I felt like there was a lot of potential for takes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And one of the things I found really interesting was how the 20th started.
		Alex started the show.
		No, it was not the Andy Grove.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, sorry, sorry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He is not fancy food.
		The show starts with Alex playing the clip of the reporter talking, you know, asking Trump about QAnon.
		But if you pay close attention, there's one thing that's missing from this clip.
unidentified		It is this belief that you are secretly saving the world from this satanic cult of pedophiles and cannibals.
		Does that sound like something you are behind?
		Well, I haven't heard that, but is that supposed to be a bad thing or a good thing?
		I mean, you know, if I can help save the world from problems, I'm willing to do it.
		I'm willing to put myself out there.
		And we are, actually.
		We're saving the world from a radical left philosophy that will destroy this country.
		And when this country is gone, the rest of the world would follow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Every time that Alex plays this clip, which he will a number of times, it conveniently cuts off the beginning where she's asking about QAnon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, why?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why would they cut that out?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because Alex desperately wants, like, he can't shit on this because he also says that Trump is fighting a cabal of cannibalistic pedophile network folks.
		So he can't shit on that, but he has a stated position that QAnon's a bunch of assholes and he doesn't like it.
		So he has to take the optics of this and just remove the part where the question's about QAnon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you can't shit on it, pretend it's not there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think that makes perfect sense from his standpoint.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, it's a nice little sleight of hand.
		Pretend that the question wasn't about QAnon.
		And just be like, yeah, it is great that Trump is fighting demons.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Honestly, I've never met Millie Weaver in my life.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, interestingly, Alex does start the show mentioning the troubles.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I thought that he was going to get into it because he says he's not going to get into it.
unidentified		Naturally.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They always say, Jones put out the discredited Pizzagate theory.
		None of it was true.
		The only pedophilia supposedly in the world was at a pizza place.
		I never said that.
		The media made it the issue.
		They set everybody up to cover something because it wasn't happening there to divert from all the places it was happening.
		And the media said, Jones, admit it wasn't happening there.
		And I said, yeah, you're the ones that first said it.
		But yeah, it's happening right over here, not there.
		And they turn that into their defense of it.
		But everyone sees right through it.
		But the influences of it are absolutely massive and its tentacles reach into every level.
		You know, I've recently had to disassociate myself from certain people.
		Who?
		It's with a very heavy heart that I'm going to have to expose the situation.
		I'm not going to do it today.
		I've got too much going on.
		But this whole evil is right under the surface.
		And it's coming out onto the open ground now.
		And we're going to have to deal with it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he's had to dissociate from Millie.
		It has something to do with QAnon and Pizzagate stuff.
		And yeah, whenever he says, I can't get into it today, or I'm not going to get into it.
		That to me is usually an indication.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's about to get into it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he doesn't.
		He doesn't.
		He sticks to that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's too busy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That kind of disappointed me a little bit because it obviously is a central point of my curiosity.
unidentified		Right, right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then also, again, the other one is Bannon.
		I was interested to see what was going to happen there.
		And he's coming out the gate, touching on these topics that I want to hear about.
		And his take on Bannon is pretty interesting.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, obviously, Stephen Bannon was arrested.
		Southern districts of New York, they're the ones trying to get all the Trump supporters.
		I don't like Stephen Bannon.
		He's done some nasty stuff.
		He bears false witness against Roger Stone.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, he did.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But now you see him with a private border wall that raised tens of millions of dollars, and then they kept a couple hundred thousand apiece for their expenses and things.
		Since when can you not start something like that?
		I mean, look at the left.
unidentified		They lost the Clinton Foundation for treason.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is an interesting take.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
		What?
		I can't embezzle now?
		I just can't embezzle.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate that on some level.
		That Alex's position on it is, you know what?
		Seriously, fuck Bannon.
		I don't like that guy, but scams are cool.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It does seem like we haven't hit the real core.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're going to stop people from scamming?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Come on now.
		And then, of course, the old standard to fail safe at the end there is the everyone else scams.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not a defense, but whatever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It reminds me of the Paul F. Topkins joke where he's talking about working there, one of his, working at a video store, and one of his co-workers is like, well, of course they expect you to steal.
		That's why they pay you so little.
		And you're like, no, stealing is wrong all the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, apparently not.
		Fair.
		So this is an interesting take that Alex has, but the take evolves a little bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And now, as Alex talks about it a little bit more, he starts to think that maybe there's something up with this Bannon arrest.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Steve Bannon arrested this morning right after Obama's speech, right before Biden's speech, to discredit the wall, to make it look like Trump did something bad.
		The same company got some of the contracts to build the wall.
		This is to embroil Trump in a new wall scandal.
		Bannon is so slippery and so nasty, from what I've seen, that he might be in on this, meeting with Epstein before he died, meeting with the Clintons and others, reportedly, that they could have put him into the indictment so that he can now try to implicate Trump or something, which is totally asinine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is asinine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That would be very asinine.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So apparently, Alex is floating, soft-pitching the theory that Steve Bannon's in on this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is a false flag.
unidentified		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is a false flag fraud.
		He committed fraud.
		Well, got away with it for a long time.
		Waited until they caught him.
		And then he's like, is he thinking, like, what took you guys so long?
		Like, what are we doing here?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
		He was in on it from the jump in order to get this arrest eventually.
		Right, right, right.
		This line of thinking doesn't continue, but I do appreciate it because it's, you know, it's kind of like someone just swinging wildly.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's that old, that old fight.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's like when you put your head down and you just wave your arms around and watch it's the windmill.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That old fighting spirit.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Good to see it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That old college spirit in Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Very sad, impotent, and goes nowhere, but I still like to see it.
		So in this next clip, we find out that Alex has reached a certain point in his fear of the future.
		You know, obviously, he's talked about how he's preparing his bunker in maybe somewhere outside Austin or something.
		It's a bunker.
		He's certainly done a lot of these infomercials with his food people, his doomsday food people.
		We've reached a new pinnacle.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Like used to, I'd go into the doctor to get check or something.
		They'd say, here's some antibiotics.
		Or I'd get a tooth pulled.
		Here's some antibiotics and say, I don't need it.
		And I wouldn't get the prescription.
		Now I go get the prescription and I go put it in the medicine cabinet to keep it.
		I mean, I'm doing little things like that, folks.
		There's antibiotics and things are going to be absolutely valuable.
		So, because I don't ever need an antibiotic for crack tooth or sore throat or whatever, but I'll still get it checked out in case of something bad.
		And I get it in case I need it.
		And I've got like seven models of antibiotics in the last couple of years.
		Sure, their expiration date will be out in a while, but they're still good for a while.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is hoarding antibiotics.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I don't know.
		Yeah.
		I don't know.
		Yeah, sure.
		Let's hoard antibiotics.
		I don't know what to do with that.
		I don't either.
		Will Smith used him in I Am Legend.
unidentified		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was smart.
unidentified		Sure, sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That movie was very, very real.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was a documentary.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
unidentified		It was based on Vincent Price's life.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I feel like you could probably end up causing more harm than good.
		I mean, especially if you have expired antibiotics or if you don't have enough for a full cycle, you could end up giving yourself a drug-resistant form of something.
		You could end up like outside of doctors' supervision, taking medications is usually something they don't advise.
		And antibiotics is one of them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		As far as his backup plan for when the operation with his supplements goes down, hawking expired antibiotics in the apocalypse.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He did say they're going to be very valuable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that does sound like him.
		I got to give him that.
		He's preparing to hawk even more bullshit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I got zithrumycin's two years past overdue, but where are you going to get?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What are you going to do?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What are you going to do?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Antibiotics expire.
		They're just lying to you about that.
		Why wouldn't you say that?
		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex is really trying to cover this QAnon question that was posed to Trump.
		Sure.
		But without really having to own the fact that it was about QAnon.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Trump asked if he supports conspiracy theory.
		Conspiracy theory saving the world from satanic pedophiles.
		There are a lot of Satanists that are all in pedophiles.
		Trump's fighting them.
unidentified		But the question was about QAnon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what you're talking about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, Alex doesn't completely deny that the question.
		Like, he does mention at one point that the question is about QAnon, but then tries to cover everything surrounding it much longer in the show outside of that context.
		Right, right.
		Which is strange to me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's almost trying to discredit the conspiracy theory with conspiracy theory about how there isn't a conspiracy theory, but there is a conspiracy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Something like that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex plays this clip from MSNBC about the Trump-liking QAnon.
		There's a discussion of Trump liking QAnon.
		And this is interesting.
		One of my favorite things about this show, Alex's show, is the various ways in which tech goes wrong.
		There's a lot that we've seen.
		There have been phone call problems, Skype problems.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nobody just says hello.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Certainly there have been times when people can't find things that Alex needs.
		This is a new one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's the kind of tech issue that I never thought you'd run into.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is from MSNBC.
		Donald Trump is far more well-suited to be an Infowars host than POTUS.
		Here it is.
nicolle wallace ▲ ● ▼		Elise, it is an understatement to say Trump's on the low road.
		Trump is like subterranean, way down under where all the pipes are laid underground.
		And to that point, he's wrapping himself around, how do you say it?
		QAnon loons.
		And he has congratulated a right-wing candidate for, I mean, he is so committed now to the dark underbelly, the fringiest aspects, that I don't see how they think they're enough of those people that they're willing to roll the dice and repel the kinds of independent.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Back it up five minutes or five seconds.
		Look at this information.
		It's just crazy.
		You can see in that lady's bookstore there that they're on her.
		It's a little distracting with the music playing in the background, guys.
		Rolling Stones.
		All right, whatever.
		Let's just start the whole clip over.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That was not going out to break.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That was just middle of the segment music coming in.
unidentified		Somebody there is working for us.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the only thing that makes sense.
		Who would just start playing music?
		I was on purpose.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I think it was like a switch glitch or something like that because it started right after the clip.
		Sure.
		So you probably went to a different channel or something like that with the audio feed, and it accidentally was on a radio station or something.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like what people are listening to instead of listening to Alex.
		I just, it's amazing.
		It's remarkable just the new ways that you find to fuck up your professionalism and your presentation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just love it.
		I'm waiting.
		Somebody has to throw a pie at his face.
		That's what needs to happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what the closure I need.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Preferably while he's doing another publicity study with Llama's own studio.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it should be Millie Weaver.
		Yes.
		With a chip implanted inside of her.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Payback.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in this next clip, Alex is just disgustingly Islamophobic.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The left doesn't leave California and come to your state and stop it.
		They come and they bring California.
		And Islam doesn't leave Islam and then come here and want to be us.
		No, no, no.
		On average, they're disgusted with who we are.
		And I mean, I'm disgusted with who we are, but I don't want to blow people up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, you do.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They do not embrace us.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, that's nothing new, and it doesn't really add a whole lot to our understanding of Alex.
		But I played the clip and I cut that intentionally just as a reminder that when he's talking about these things, he says, on average, he's talking about normal people.
		He's not having a conversation that's specifically about people with extreme ideologies of whatever orientation of the people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's like, I was in a pool store.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's talking about just all like on average, Muslims hate us.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's like, hey, man, stop trying to pretend that that's not what you're saying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Stop trying to pretend that you're having a different conversation than you just generally hate other groups of people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the idea that no matter what, no one has any interest in assimilating into American culture at large and only want to impose their culture upon other people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And they're disgusted so they want to blow you up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, which is bananas because he totally wants to blow people up and force his ideas upon everyone else.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Speaking of people who blow things up, particularly foreign governments, if you believe Alex, Steve Pieczenik is going to be on today.
unidentified		Steve.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm excited.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My boy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's he got?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Steve's on because he has some thoughts about Bannon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course he does.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He hates Bannon, right?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		Okay.
		I was about to call a producer, Darius, and say, get Steve Pieczenik on, and here comes the message.
		Hey, Steve Pachenick wants to come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That he does.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's got brought inside baseball on Steve Bannon.
		I don't know his take yet, but I'm going to give you mine.
		We'll see how they match up.
		It's kind of a fun game.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't like Steve Bannon.
		Steve Bannon brought in a bunch of the deep state globalists.
		He basically just a Hollywood screenwriter, and he took a lot of the populist movement that was already out there that this audience supported and kind of cobbled it together as an operating system.
		Trump resonated with it along with Steven Miller, who I think's a good guy, and Trump really believes it, so he picked it up.
		But then Bannon lied in the Senate committee, intelligence committee, and said that, well, Stone had no connections to WikiLeaks.
		Well, that was the truth.
		But then he went and lied with perjury to the show trial in D.C. against Roger Stone with Judge Amy Berman Jackson and said that he was the main conduit.
		Well, I was there.
		There was no conduit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's one of Alex's big argument about Bannon.
		He just keeps insisting that he bore false witness in Roger's trial.
		And that's because he believes that Bannon told the Senate Intelligence Committee that Roger had no connection to WikiLeaks.
		But then at the trial, he claimed the opposite in order to jam Roger up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a surprise.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Unfortunately, the Senate Intelligence Committee's report was released last week.
		And if you consult page 241, you'll find this.
		Quote, Bannon recalled discussing WikiLeaks and Assange with Stone, both before and after taking over as the chief executive officer of the Trump campaign on August 13th, 2016.
		Bannon recalled that prior to joining the campaign, quote, Stone told him that he had a connection to Assange and, quote, implied that he had inside information about WikiLeaks.
		After Bannon assumed the role of campaign CEO, Stone repeated to him that he, quote, had a relationship with Assange and said that Wikileaks was going to dump additional materials that would be bad for the Trump campaign.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That sure sounds like a crime.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex's premise is false, that Bannon testified something contradictory at Rogers' trial compared to what he said in his Senate testimony.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's just banking on his audience, not taking the time to learn what the Senate report says, which is a safe bet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a thousand pages long.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very long.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's very long.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So Steve Pieczenik comes on.
		Whenever I say Steve, I'm going to be talking about Pieczenik.
		When I say Bannon, I'm going to talk about Steve Bannon for the sake of clarity.
		So Steve comes in, and man, I love this guy when he swings.
		He swings for the goddamn fancy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, lately, without Steve Pieczenik, there isn't anybody who's really going for it, you know?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I find that I hate all of these people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think they're all monsters, and they all have nefarious agendas.
unidentified		Agreed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which should just be taken as red.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that there's two classes of criminal here.
		And there's people who are like just really embarrassing scams.
		And I think we'll see another one later.
		And that's Deanna Lorraine.
unidentified		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		She comes up later.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is an embarrassing fraud.
		Who gives a shit?
		Millie Weaver's terrible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Owen Schroyer's terrible.
		Garbage.
		So many of these people that Alex has on his guests are just dismissible, weak.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Steve is another class of criminal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's got his own thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think part of it comes down to brazenness.
steve pieczenik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Steve doesn't give a shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not a fucking shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He does not care.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Go home and tell your mother you're brilliant.
		That's the fucking that is Steve.
		Just like.
		Oh, you don't like it?
		I don't care.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		From the perspective of someone who has to listen to these ding-dongs talk all the time, I at least get some sort of an entertainment value out of Steve, and particularly when he comes in, and this is his complaint about Bannon.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What is your take on this?
steve pieczenik ▲ ● ▼		It's very simple.
		I was on your show a couple of months ago, and I said that Steve Bannon was a complete sociopath, and eventually he would trap himself in his lies and his collusions with his colleagues.
		I am for the indictment, conviction, and prison for Steve Bannon.
		The reason is very simple.
		Bannon is what we call a self-promoter.
		A nicer term or a different term would be a BS artist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really, Steve?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So that's why he should be imprisoned.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, because he's a BS artist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's a BS artist.
		Family show.
		He's a BS artist.
unidentified		Coming from the guy who solved every geopolitical problem that has ever happened.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Coming from the guy who cured coronavirus.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, certainly was patient zero.
		Yeah, I think he's a BS artist.
		There's something so universal about that mentality of like, whatever they're accusing us of, we're doing.
		You know, that kind of thing.
		And I think that everybody has it to a little degree in this InfoWars world.
		But Steve fucking relishes it.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He wallows in it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He is the biggest self-promoter in the world.
		He allows Alex to say that he's who Tom Clancy based Jack Ryan on stuff.
		He loves it.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He is a gigantic BS artist.
		It's just delicious.
		That projection is amazing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's covered in someone's blood that he just murdered.
		And he's like, I don't like Steve Bannon.
		He murders too many people.
		Like, that's what we're doing right here.
		It's amazing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		From an entertainment standpoint, Steve still sucks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's the worst.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He should be imprisoned for being a BS artist, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, by his logic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		By his logic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Steve months ago had told Alex that Bannon was going down.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, that was a safe bet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, Mike down for this because I want you to follow how excited Alex gets when he thinks that this was based on inside information and how disappointing it is when he's like, nah, I was just talking shit.
steve pieczenik ▲ ● ▼		Now, remember, months ago, I had told you Bannon was going to be arrested.
steve pieczenik ▲ ● ▼		And a year ago, I said.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		By the way, you did say that.
		I should have started the broadcast.
		I remember, I mean, have you gotten rumblings of this?
		Or you said Bannon's going to pay?
steve pieczenik ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
		I had no rumblings.
		One of the things that you and I do intuitively is it's obvious when a man like Bannon gets ahead of himself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		So that was great because Alex is like, oh, you got some inside information.
		You got some rumblings?
unidentified		Uh-uh.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Out of nowhere.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just talking shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just made it up off the top of my head.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He seemed in over his head.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I didn't like him.
		I don't like him.
		So I just assumed he was going to go to jail.
steve pieczenik ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I'm going to play this next clip, and it's Steve sort of rambling a little bit about Obama.
		And one of the only reasons I'm playing this is just as a way to point out that Alex is back pretty deeply in the calling Michelle Mike and doing all that stuff.
		It's pretty disgusting.
steve pieczenik ▲ ● ▼		None of them have ever put in a president.
steve pieczenik ▲ ● ▼		Obama was a freak of the CIA, black, lying, homosexual, complete farce, who then calls our president a farce and then delivers Michelle Obama, a total nobody, who was already threatening Harvard and Prince.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What do you think of Big Monic?
		That's her nickname now.
		What do you think of Big Mike?
steve pieczenik ▲ ● ▼		I think she is exactly what she is.
		She is a asexual individual.
		I gotta be careful.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hold on, stay.
		Hold on.
		We're gonna come back with her threat to America that things are gonna get really bad if we re-elect Trump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is just such a stupid game, but Alex is getting deep into it again.
		And we've seen this cycle play out over and over again, and it's really not worth getting riled up about because, as ugly and based in bigotry as it all is, he's just trolling.
		Like, he's really just trying to get a reaction out of people.
		Because we've seen this happen in cycles before, where he gets into this Michelle's a man thing.
		And then, whenever there's too much heat about it, he'll be like, We were just joking.
		You know, obviously, this isn't something that we're serious about.
		But while he's doing it, he'll play it very seriously.
		Like, I absolutely mean this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is attention-seeking behavior.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		I would leave it alone entirely, except for it's becoming pretty frequent on this show.
		And so, I just want to say, he's doing this again.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's very dumb.
		Yeah, so Alex, another one of his big narratives lately has been this idea that what's going to happen is that the election's going to happen, and then Trump's going to win, but then Pelosi and the left and the Democrats, of course, they're going to say the Biden won, and they're going to secede.
		All the blue states are going to secede, right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And so, Alex 100% fine with that at this point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex pitches this to Steve.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Steve's response is pretty interesting.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Every one of the pundits, from Van Jones to Senator Schumer to Hillary, they all come out to Eric Holder and regurgitate this and say we're normalizing it.
		We're going to secede and take the country with them.
		And we're back to the early 1860s, Dr. Prochetic.
		So, this is serious.
		If they even attempt this, it could really hurt the stock market, hurt the country, break it up.
		I mean, we can't just let them criminally claim that they're going to take states, the Democrats win, and break away from the nation.
unidentified		What?
steve pieczenik ▲ ● ▼		Let me say the following: Number one, that's never going to happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, let me say the following.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Shut up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Alex.
unidentified		Let me start off by saying that your premise is ridiculous.
unidentified		Now, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's begin with your big dum-dum.
		Next point.
		You're still a big dumb-dump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex, let me begin my speech by saying that this thing that you've been working for the last month trying to scare your audience about is stupid cuckoo brains.
		It'll never happen.
		Nope.
		It's nonsensical.
		Your audience does not need to be afraid of that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Shit.
		I love it whenever he's so dismissive.
		Not many people get to just take an Alex point of view and just go, stop it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Get out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Alex, that's a big talking point for you, and it's dumb.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just boo in the background.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Instead of you responding, just while Alex is talking, just go, boo!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, that would be disrespectful.
		Yeah, certainly.
		But I think what Steve does is even more disrespectful.
unidentified		It is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because whenever Alex talks about his ideas and his notions about America and freedom, usually there's a presentation of this romanticized ideal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And when Steve comes on, it becomes pretty clear that he doesn't share the same ideas about America.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He literally wants a fascist queen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He wants to be a new lady to be queen.
unidentified		Yeah.
steve pieczenik ▲ ● ▼		Trump, a non-politician.
		Guess what?
		We're going to probably one day get Jared Kushner or an Ivankta.
		And the reason for that is he's opened the pathway for business people to understand that the republic is based on one simple principle and one simple religion.
		Serial capitalism.
		What I used to do is serial angel investor, creating.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sure, it's reinvention.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's always been on the cutting edge of global development and innovation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Steve believes that the only religion and the only thing that this country is based on is serial capitalism.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And Alex of Human Events.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's kind of.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		King George.
unidentified		We are sick of not being serial capitalists, sir.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We must away with you.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I think I have a different view of America than Steve.
		And I think Alex has sold his audience a different view of it, too.
		And if this is truly what Alex believes and the way he sees things, I think that he's done his audience a serious disservice by selling them a bill of goods about this romantic notion of freedom and everything that he talks about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If that's what you believe, why even talk to me about the Constitution or the Bill of Rights or the Declaration of the Republic?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because those are all to protect serial capitalism.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, just don't bother with those.
		Like, I'm tired of them telling me, oh, read your Constitution.
		And I'm like, yeah, it's not in there.
		Just say to me, you don't give a shit about the rules and law or anything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They would throw out everything that this country is based on if it meant protecting capitalism.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is white capitalism.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Certainly.
		So we have one last clip here from Steve's interview.
		And this is interesting because this seems like a really big brag.
		And I don't think it's accurate, but it might be less far off than we want it to be.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Predict what's coming and how people position themselves for a successful, good, happy life.
steve pieczenik ▲ ● ▼		I was involved with Jonestown.
		And if they flown there, I couldn't believe that I didn't even have to leave the United States.
		They self-destruct.
		And that's where the Democratic cult party is going.
		They are in the process of self-destruction.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe that Steve was involved in Jonestown.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Was he involved in Jonestown, Dan?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was Jim Jones, third in command.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't believe that he was involved in any meaningful way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm waiting for him to say he was involved in Jamestown.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		If you are your ancestors.
		No, he, but the timeline, I believe, is actually right, that he would have been the undersecretary or the deputy assistant secretary of the State Department for Management around the time that the People's Temple was in existence.
		Right.
		So I could see him being aware of the situation in Jonestown.
		But I don't know if I believe that he had any major role to play.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Reading a briefing or something along those lines.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then that, of course, turns into the mythology of him being like, and whenever I faxed that briefing to my superior, obviously I influenced things and changed the course of human events yet again.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I could see him in that role as like deputy assistant secretary, knowing something about what was going on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then learning that the dude was going to go pay a visit to the Congress person.
		And I could see Steve either being like, don't do that, or him being like, totally do that.
		I could see either one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, he doesn't give a shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So after this, Steve leaves and we get our visit from Deanna Lorraine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we go from like really ambitious, bold, brazen, dickholes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What is real is not real.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's real is what's not real is real.
deanna lorraine ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Dude, Deanna Lorraine, it's just like, this is such a shift in tone.
		It feels so much like this dude might have been involved in Jonestown.
		And then we go to this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So tell people what happened yesterday.
deanna lorraine ▲ ● ▼		So yesterday, I'm at a nice hotel, right?
		This isn't like a cheap hotel.
		This is a nice hotel.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I told him to get you one downtown, huh?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's like another world down there, man.
deanna lorraine ▲ ● ▼		But it's a good one, but it's a nice hotel, right?
		And I'm going in round and I just went to the restaurant.
		I went to ask the hostess a question.
		I said, you know, is the restaurant, you know, what time does the restaurant close?
		And naturally, as I'm talking to her, I just pulled my mask down a little bit to talk to her because otherwise it's so muscled, right?
		And she just yells at me.
		She said, put your mask on over your nose.
		Put your mask on over your nose.
		I said, you know, you could just say, hi, how are you?
		Or you could be nice about it, but you don't have to scream at me about it.
		And again, as I'm saying, you don't have to scream at me about it in a nice way.
		She screams at me again, put your mask over your nose, put your mask over her nose.
		And I said, you know what?
		I can't do this anymore.
		You know, I think that at least during this pandemic, I'm already wearing my mask.
		It's already dehumanizing.
		You can at least be nice.
		What happened to customer service during this pandemic?
		It's gone completely out the window.
		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Even Alex's board.
deanna lorraine ▲ ● ▼		I flipped her off.
		And then I couldn't really help myself.
		I did flip her off as I'm walking away.
		And I said, I'm going to file a complaint about you.
		I can't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, you should.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you should.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What happened to customer service?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
		Just fucking, you know, I do like the globe.
		I like the globe trouting mythology.
		I do.
		I like the idea of Steve Pieczenik being everywhere, the forest gump all the time, and his swings so big.
		And she's like, what happened to basic decency?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's minuscule.
		It's petty.
		It's personal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a boring story.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not a great story.
		It's shitting on people who are having to go to work in unideal conditions.
		It's unable to take a view outside herself at all to what these people might be going through.
		It's just, it's not worthwhile.
		It's even if the story is 100% true, she sounds like an asshole.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		She is an asshole.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nothing about this is, and it's petty culture war type nonsense that just it doesn't rise to the level of being interesting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This servant that is risking her life for minimum wage is not treating me the way that I would appreciate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And so I am going to scream at her and flip the bird.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Great.
unidentified		Cool.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whereas Steve may be involved in Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So anyway, this is the last clip here from the 20th.
		Deanna is talking about how she was on the TV in Australia, which we know about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, we were there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Her feed was cut, allegedly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was the Scalar attack.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or the Skype went out, one of the two.
deanna lorraine ▲ ● ▼		Look, I was on the Australian news, right, a couple weeks ago, the Australian Today show.
deanna lorraine ▲ ● ▼		And as soon as I started getting into the real death numbers and the presumed death.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They cut you off.
deanna lorraine ▲ ● ▼		And oh, yeah, they cut me off and they said it was a bad feed, right?
		And I talked about the president of Tanzania, how he's actually a scientist, and he sent in non-human samples, testing a goat, testing a pawpaw.
		And it comes back positive.
		You can't make this stuff up, but you can.
		They're making it up.
		And yet the psyop continues.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		It's really funny how her Skype went out when she was interviewed on Alex's show.
		And then Alex very clearly was like, I don't think that they cut her feed.
		I think it's her Skype.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm suspecting she didn't listen to that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then now she's in the studio, and Alex is helping her pretend that they cut her feed.
		Isn't that fun?
		Isn't that fun?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think she listened to the rest of her appearance on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think Alex was paying attention to the things he was saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's just so stupid.
		God, of course.
		Oh, my God.
		I was saying a bunch of nonsense, and then my Skype feed cut out, which I proved never happened because my Skype feed cut out with you, Alex, the person I'm talking to right now.
		Obviously, it's those statistics that were dangerous.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was so blunt and in your face that my Skype is terrible that even you, Alex Jones, couldn't pretend that it was a conspiracy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But now I'm in studio and people have forgotten that that happened, so we can pretend again.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was a million years ago.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We can pretend these people are children.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we get to the 21st, and Alex opens his show, and it's just like, this is where we're at.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Here is some of the new ads that Trump's putting out on this issue and the crime wave on this live Friday broadcast.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex just opens his show playing Trump-produced ads.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's playing Trump-produced ads.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		For no charge?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would assume so.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a campaign finance violation, I believe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I don't know the law on that well enough.
		I think you can play them if you're not being paid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, that's probably kind, isn't it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how the law works, but I feel like that's wrong.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if it's wrong, but it's certainly like, okay, it puts you in a box.
		But I guess Infowars has always been in that box.
		That's fair.
		So I'm going to skip past this clip because Alex gets kind of hung up on a new Call of Duty commercial.
unidentified		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why not?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why not?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a Call of Duty Cold War game campaign that's coming out.
		And there's a commercial for it that uses some audio of a Soviet KGB defector from way back.
		And Alex is sort of pretending that the storyline of the game is reality.
		And it's very weird.
		But expect that to come back in the future.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I watch movies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Video games are also predictive programming.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Always happen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's all real.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Always happen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everything is a yes.
		Yeah, yeah.
		Lesser magic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The other day, I was doing laundry.
		I ran into Crash Bandicoot.
		Predictive programming.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a real surprise.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He was hiding with those two birds.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So I'm going to leave that aside because it's not really all that important.
		But I do predict that it'll come back.
		Anyway, Roger comes in now.
		Roger Stone is guest, and it's also to talk about Bannon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Roger, oh, God, these guys are pros.
		Him and Steve are pros.
		Like, this is just the shittiest shithead taken the high road stuff I've ever heard.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		I must say at the top that I take no delight in Steve Bannon's new problems, but they don't surprise me because we know definitively that he directly contradicted his testimony at my trial.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's just like such a cool, like, hey, look, I'm not happy, but the dude's a snake.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just can't believe.
		How do you think you can get away with that rhetorically?
		That's such a fuck you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If this wasn't Infowars, then every single time that Roger was on, I'd be like, why'd you drop that appeal?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, totally.
		What happened?
		Did you read that report that was just said?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he says he does touch on that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he's like, oh, it's just all the same old stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I guess we don't have to bother with it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not quite all the same old stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Interestingly, Roger seems to be really mad that he didn't know during his trial that Steve Bannon was under investigation because Bannon was a witness against him.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He could have used that.
unidentified		In my trial, the government had an obligation to tell us that Steve Bannon, their chief witness, was under federal investigation.
		Not doing so is a Brady violation.
		It's not that Bannon's federal investigation was exculpatory, but we could have used it to impeach his credibility.
		Did Steve try to make a deal on this criminal charge and throw me to the wolves in return?
		I'll never know.
		But, you know, I'm praying for him at this point.
		Oh, classy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Classy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Classy.
		Oh, man.
		What a dick That is such a A clause doesn't inviolate the entire sentence of what you're saying Yeah.
		Look, I mean, I think he should probably be lit on fire.
		Have you seen Wicker Man?
		That was pretty good.
		You sacrifice him.
		Now, I wish him the best of luck in the afterlife.
unidentified		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would say that my response to that clip is: this investigation is not essential to impeach the character of Steve Bannon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What are you talking about?
unidentified		If you couldn't have done it prior, I don't know if this is going to help.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, you can't bring up all the scams that the both of you were involved in together.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fair enough.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So you got to bring in the feds.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the only thing that'll make sense.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So when we were talking about the immediate reaction that Alex had to Shadowgate, right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		One of them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was the gate of gates.
unidentified		Oh, it was.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was the gate of gates.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		That's the first immediate reaction.
		Then Alex's reaction was, I don't know shit about this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's never heard of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't get involved.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't get involved with secret stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It wasn't even the gate of Agate.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All Alex does is take publicly available information.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't have secret sources.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, no, but now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Here he is, groveling, lying, working with the system, leaking on Trump.
		And now the very people, as I'm told, I talked to high-level folks in New York yesterday morning.
		They said, no, this is the deep state Democrats trying to embarrass Trump.
		So now the deep state's doing Trump a favor against this traitor.
		It just shows there's no honor amongst thieves.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So now Alex has secret sources, high-level sources in New York, who have told him that the Bannon arrest was to embarrass Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is just not fair.
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's just not fair.
unidentified		It's just, you know, you get through it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You get through it, but every now and again, it still hits you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's just like, this is just not fair.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you're preaching to the choir.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm fine with it most of the time.
unidentified		But when he says that, it's just, you just slap me in the face.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would prefer if he just hit me with a glove and was like, no, I never hit you.
		And then hit me again.
		No, I never hit you.
		That would at least give me something to feel.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Other than that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is spiritually very similar.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And if you want it to get worse, I submit to you this next clip.
unidentified		The Wall Street Journal has also reported that there are ongoing investigations into Bannon's relationship with a Chinese billionaire.
		I don't know what will come of any of that.
		I don't know if there's any wrongdoing there.
		But I think this story is to be continued.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Roger is very careful not to say the person's name because that dude sued Roger for $100 million.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea what you're talking about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That was Miles Kwok who sued the shit out of Roger.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Roger has to be like, I heard about a Chinese billionaire.
		I'm not saying what.
		I've never even talked about any Chinese billionaires in the past.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea what you guys are talking about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who the fuck is Millie Weaver?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've been hearing a lot about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Must insist that I not say this person's name because I don't want to get sued again.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Cheating liars.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, interestingly, I thought that this was pretty interesting.
		And that is that Alex always in interviews is like, do five more minutes.
		Of course.
		Always.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's like me back when I used to drink one more beer.
unidentified		One more beer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Come on.
		Another round.
		Another round.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We've been there before.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Alex is like that in almost every interview.
		And almost every time people are like, yeah, let's go ahead.
		Let's do a little more.
		Roger, not so much.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let me just do a little feudal factoids.
		And if you got to go, you got to go and do five more.
		Just blink.
		Can you do five more, Roger?
unidentified		Actually, I have to end this segment.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I know.
		You're a busy guy now.
		Wow.
		Talk about in demand.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Roger's got to go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm certain he has nothing he needs to do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm done.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I got what I wanted out of this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm not giving you a cent more.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have talked about how Bannon sucks, but then also been like Bannon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've also spread just enough suspicion about Bannon intersecting with my trial that my appeal some connections.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My dropping of the appeal doesn't look quite as shifty.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why wouldn't I drop the appeal?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's lying the whole time, anyways.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex goes to break and comes back.
unidentified		And this really was weird.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I got worried.
		Okay.
		There are times when I'm listening to Alex's show where the tone shift is so dramatic that I'm like, uh-oh, what's going to happen?
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What is going to happen?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let me just get into this right now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He sounds unhappy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		When I say I'm going to be honest with you, it just means that I don't want to be honest with you.
		Oh, boy.
		And by that, all I've got is that I tell people what I really think.
		If I'm joking around, I'll tell you, but still in the satire, you get the truth of what I'm doing.
		And then 99% of the time, I'm being serious.
		What?
		They always take the satire out of context.
		Even though I love satire, it's a good escape.
		It's fun.
		I don't do it very much because it's taken out of context, and I'm not sure that's a good thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm so scared.
		I am terrified.
		Whenever Alex starts talking in riddles, yeah, he's going Sufi on us.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is that what it is?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm only being honest because I can't be honest.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When I tell you that I got to be honest about something, it means I don't want to be honest.
		What are you doing?
		That really worried me.
		And he doesn't get to the point.
		Like, he just keeps going down weird roads.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Like, it's not a racist, but kind of the enemy's winning, and in certain ways, they're losing, and others.
		Their old globalist house of cards is starting to come down.
		But their plan to counter that is to implode everything and get us so distracted with trying to feed ourselves, they don't get in trouble and they run after all their armored fortresses while we kill each other.
		It doesn't mean we don't have real beefs with each other.
		Doesn't mean there's not racist white people, racist black people, racist whatever.
		It doesn't mean that there isn't real issues, but the big new world order mothership is killing everybody.
		And we got to save the ship.
		And then later we want to be idiots and kill each other.
		We can do that.
		At least we're not going to blow the plane.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, thanks.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I get it.
		I'm not a racist to hate somebody because what color they are.
		But I'm dealing with a racist group that doesn't like me because of what color I am.
		I don't like those people.
		I get angry at them.
		And when I'm getting attacked by that group of people, it's going to be white people that come to my aid.
		That's the way tribalism works, ladies and gentlemen.
		And I don't want to punch those buttons because I punch those buttons.
		I personally will become wealthier and more successful for a little while.
		And then we'll all be destroyed together.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm so fucking scared.
		I swear to God, I'm not like, I didn't cut out parts that make this make sense.
		This is what happened right after Alex is like exasperated.
		You know, I'm not can't do satire because people take it out of, and then he's doing this weird thing.
		It's like, he's like, hey, you know, there's these people who hate me because I'm white, so I hate them.
		And then white people support me, and I could lean into that and be more outwardly racist.
		That's super profitable, but only for a little while.
		What is he talking about?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		His career?
		Is that what he's?
		Did he just sum up?
		Like, since he joined Trump, he's like, well, you know, I was explicitly racist.
		And that worked really well for a little while.
		But then it all caught up to me on account of I'm being sued by everybody for all the things that I did for being those.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's not being sued for being racist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, of course not, but he probably thinks he is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a good way to sort of experience it in a way to get yourself off the bottom.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because I'm not racist, so I don't even need to worry about being sued for being racist, even though I'm not being sued for that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		See, now I thought that this was what he was going to get into, but he doesn't.
		This is sort of a stray thought that he's rambling around.
		Like he's clearly dealing with something, but I'm not sure exactly what it is.
		Because he just keeps going and he's like, I don't want to get into this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So just from a Machiavellian view, I'm human.
		So I've got a pro-human outlook, but what's the thing I don't want to get into?
		And I figured this out.
		I'm tempted to stop doing research smart before and after the show and just do like a six-hour show, but where I read it and talk about it for the first time on air.
		Because my problem is, when I get in here and they've got hundreds of articles in front of me, I've already seen a lot of it.
		And then it's like, it's almost like I'm a devil worshiper to look at this.
		Like, I don't want to look at this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What are you talking about?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've got a pitch for Alex.
		All right.
		He should stop doing any research.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I should have no idea what's going on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What he should do is he doesn't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What he should do is hire somebody else to do all of the research for him and then read and analyze those articles that he likes to talk about directly to him.
		And then he can just react to things.
		Hold on one second.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Can I stop you there?
		Because I'm starting to think I because I think that Alex thinks he's doing that.
		I think he thinks that his writers are doing that for him now, but he doesn't even read their articles.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's fair.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I love the idea of Alex just being like, I'm tempted to stop working.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You don't work now.
		Don't do shit.
		What does he think he's doing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he did have a killer pool party over there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
unidentified		Apparently, he was doing some research about sandwiches.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Delicious.
		Hey, we're doing a scientific test, see how many people can eat sandwiches.
		The globalists tell you not to eat half or not to swim half an hour after you eat.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Bullshit.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Get in that lake.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Get on in there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Eat a sandwich while you're swimming.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I was listening to this and I was troubled.
		I didn't know what this headspace was.
		I couldn't pin it down.
		And then even more than that, I was confused because he was not being specific at all about what he's talking about.
		And then in this next clip, I kind of got a sense of what this might be about.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we're not supposed to be around stuff like this.
		They bombard us with this.
		So I went and reviewed this morning and last night what they're putting on TV for kids, man.
		And I can't handle it.
		I mean, I want to start killing people.
		I'm going to be just, I can't get it off the screen.
		I'm not kidding around, folks.
		I'm at my breaking point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So there's some children's.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are we at Peppa Pig?
		Is that what's going on here?
		What are we doing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thomas the Tank Engine has gone down.
		What are we doing?
		I mean, I had a sense that this was about those Netflix posters for that show, or that I don't know.
		I think it was a movie, that French movie Cuties, I believe.
		Did you not see about this?
		I heard that Netflix took something down because there was a poster for it that was way out of line with what the movie itself is about.
		The movie itself is sort of an exploration of the hypersexualization of youths through the prism of like so the poster hypersexualized youth.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There we go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		And so people obviously took great aim at this.
		And I had a sense that maybe it was something like that.
		But even so, this wasn't a movie for kids.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, I don't when you're children's kids.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not animation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, then any movie that has kids is for kids.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		It's interesting.
		He's talking about children's programming, but he's still not being specific.
		And I just, I didn't know what was going on.
		He wants to kill people over there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I got up at 4 a.m. and I saw this story like 5 a.m.
		And I went, oh, God, I remember that trailer.
		I went and watched it, and then I went and looked at some others.
		And I was walking down the stairs, and I started dryheaving and throwing up on the floor.
		And I actually stumbled into a side bedroom and laid on the ground for about 30 minutes.
		And I'm not saying that to like get your sympathy.
		I'm not a victim.
		I'm a war.
		I can't handle these people, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I didn't know what he was talking about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I had to try and find context clues on Infowars.com.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And there was an article from National File that was reposted on Infowars.
		It's clearly what he's talking about.
		And it was for a show, a Netflix show from last year that RuPaul did.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		From last year.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Called AJ and the Queen.
		And it was about a drag performer who befriends a 10-year-old who's.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I remember.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		So it's something to do with that trailer.
		Apparently, Alex saw it, threw up in his stairway and then passed out in a side room for half an hour.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And wants to kill people because of it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A bit of an overreaction.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't you get it?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a trailer, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I also don't think that that show was for children.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't necessarily think that was a children's show.
unidentified		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know anymore, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It has children in it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's supposed to be for children.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The best I can tell is the trailer was that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what he's talking about because that's what the article on InfoWars that came out this day was that matches up to what certainly drives him to want to kill.
unidentified		I'm just waiting for him to just be like, why can't every movie just be angels in the outfield?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just make angels in the outfield every year.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We get one movie.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's wholesome if it were that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then also, if you watch Angels in the Outfield, you don't have to take on the pain.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You don't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You don't have to take on it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There are angels to do it for you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But when Alex sees trailers like this, it gives him great pain.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
		I know you're overloading too.
		And that's what the enemy's trying to do.
		So we have to give it to God and say, God, I'm just going to get the information out and I'm not going to let myself take on the pain of this.
		But then it's a double-edged sword and God goes, no, you're supposed to take on the pain.
		God's like, I took on all of it.
		You can't even look at it one little piece.
		Get your ass up and stop being a whim.
		So I'll be honest, I'm a whim.
		That's the process.
		And that's, you know, it is.
		We just, but then I look at people who won't even look at this and won't even speak out against it.
		And I hate you more of the devil worshiping pedophiles because you could stop it.
		Hmm.
		But you don't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Couldn't they too?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So I don't like the collapse that's coming because I know it's not going to be fun.
		But you know what?
		We all deserve it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		All right.
		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, when you only saw one set of footprints, Dan, that was when RuPaul was carrying you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think this is a little bit of an overreaction.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		When the collapse comes, it will be because of this AJ and the Queen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Joe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he's just pissed off because his initials are AJ.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		People are going to think it's me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I actually wrote that they stole it from me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Steve Pacanek actually was the inspiration for Tom Clancy's AJ and the Queen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
		I heard that on Alex's show.
		That's great.
		I just think Alex needs to calm down.
unidentified		Yeah, trailers shouldn't make people angry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, and I honestly, while I was watching that, found it to ring very false.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I found that to be very fake.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Outrage.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think Alex was aware that there were these quote-unquote save the children marches planned for the weekend.
		Sure.
		And, you know, he certainly likes QAnon stuff, even if he hates QAnon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So he's got to find a way to save the children himself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, he has to build that up and make it like a more front-facing, passionate part of his presentation in anticipation of that becoming something that he covers.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Even though you think you care about the children, I care about the children so much I'm mad at trailers.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I want a murder because of a trailer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Great.
		So, and one of the other reasons that I feel like this is very false and very performative is he does this whole segment about this that's all over the place, meandering, rambling, nonsensical.
		Then he comes back and he does an entire segment about how he's going to go down to Barton Springs with a food truck.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right, just slap.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The city of Austin has declared a secret parks and recreation department emergency.
		That's what they're calling it.
		A secret emergency that we went down last weekend with over 200 people and marched down a trail and jumped in Barton Creek.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Multiple times on this episode, Alex mentions people passing out from heat exhaustion.
		And it's like, yeah, maybe it was an emergency.
		Maybe, maybe, maybe people were right to call it an emergency that you're not taking care of any of the people who come to your rally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes cause and effect seems to escape him.
		You know?
		Like, sometimes there's very clear causes and effects.
		If you are hurting people with your dumb shit, people are going to be like, hey, maybe we should do something about this idiot who's hurting people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm also not certain that there was a secret parks emergency.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm pretty sure there was a secret parks emergency.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Probably not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alan Swanson was there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was a whole thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex talks this entire segment about how great it's going to be to go swim.
		And he's not wrong.
		I love swimming too.
		But what makes it really funny is that we end up in this very familiar territory.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let me do this.
		I'm ready to cover this, but I've got like four stacks.
		I got to get lined up during the break to make sure I hit every piece of this.
		It all ties together.
		Just today's news is, again, a painting, a seismic chart that just stalled for what's going on, and it's just unbelievable.
		Separately, you don't just need the products we sell because it funds this operation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's so amazing.
		He wastes all this time talking about how we're going to go swimming and it's going to be great.
		And then he's like, well, I can't get to the news.
		I got to get that in order.
		And then he punts on covering anything in order to do a protracted plug.
		This show's so stupid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everything is so petty.
		Everything is so petty.
		All of their grievances are so stupid and pathetic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and that's really what I'm talking about with Steve: he elevates things to a level of international espionage.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's fucking Jack Ryan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Even if it's not real and not true, it feels bigger than I'm going swimming.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be a great weekend.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want Melania to be queen of earth.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And one of the things I think is really interesting is that you notice that this like swimming at Barton Springs protest has certainly got way more legs to it than his, I'm going to save everyone who's been wrongly convicted of DUI.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's because swimming's fun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Swimming is great.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You don't have to go to the police office.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nobody writes.
		There's no work involved.
		Nobody asks you questions because it's sunny and nice outside.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You don't have to put in a lot of effort for someone else's behalf and their freedom.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Their behalf is really sucking.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You go swim and you get a fucking sandwich.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a great time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Good time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes you get heat exhaustion, though, but don't protect yourself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not him.
		Someone else.
		And you can just say, sorry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What a fucking monster.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, anyway, he's doing this plug.
		And he can't remember.
		Oh, that comes a little later when he can't remember a product name.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, teasing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he's trying to sell some gut fusion, but it's gone.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't have gut fusion.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't have gut fusion.
unidentified		No.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Nobody bought it, so he discontinued it.
		My God, gut fusion is incredible what it did for my life, my energy.
		I mean, I was like, I was 15 years old again when it came to the sex department.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Family show.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		His gut fusion.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Gut fusion.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I took probiotics.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Makes you fuck.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Took probiotics and man, it gave me boners like a teenager.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Gut fusion makes you want to fuck.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But it doesn't exist anymore.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nope, because no one wanted it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But he wanted it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He could just get his own secret gut fusion.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe he does.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe he does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe he has his own.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe he's been doing too much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would describe how this plug ends as Alex being a goddamn mope.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is sad.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We have a lot of other big specials going as well, and I just didn't plug them properly, so I'm just not going to plug them.
		But we have the everyday essential specials.
		What happens is, I go crazy when I can't remember a product name because I'm teleprompter-free.
		So I've got no CD about it.
		I used to have a photographic memory, but now I'm older, so I don't.
		Take me sitting there trying to remember the name of our anti-parasite gut flush product that's beyond a probiotic.
		And it drives me insane.
unidentified		Gut flu.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't remember the name of it.
unidentified		What is that?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's not Apex Power Stack.
		It's not Survival Shield.
		It's not Opischo.
		It's not Survival Shield.
		It's not Prosecutor.
		It's not Krill Oil.
		It's not Alexa Pure Breeze, for God's sake.
		What is the name of that product?
		Well, None of them can tell me.
		She has a sister.
		Oh, yeah.
		No one can tell me.
		No one can tell me.
		I won't be able to rest till I know the name of this product.
		Good God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You need a boss.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, Alex needs somebody to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't even know this product.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex needs a boss who can be like, you're on thin ice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Shape up.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Shape up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look, I understand.
		You know, you have a certain set of skills where you can ramble about things and people find it funny.
		This doesn't fly, man.
		You're putting on a show.
		You can't do a minute of not remembering something and then being mad that no one's putting it in your earpiece.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, this is the type of place that should be taken over by a private equity fund and run into the ground.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They always don't ruin good stuff.
		Take this shit, throw all your debt in there, and then kill them off.
		It's fine.
		You do it all the time.
unidentified		It's great.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex comes back, does not remember the name of this product, but he does remember how he went to a smart growth conference in 1996.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I remember one time I was at it, like in 2000 and no, in 1996, they had a big smart growth conference in Austin.
		And I was there for days.
		I paid to go.
		And they had all these big tech people.
		And I'm like, but they're taking poor people's ranches and farms.
		And you're abusing people.
		And this is illegal.
		And why would you want to hurt people?
		And I remember they looked at me and the camera wasn't on.
		They go, you idiot.
		Of course we are.
		There was a famous Dallas cowboy did that.
		And he was just all satanic and into himself.
		And he just brushed aside me.
		White guy.
		Like he was just Carcy.
		That's the attitude.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Convenient that that wasn't on camera.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He was like, ah, but we couldn't get it.
		We ran out of film, man.
		We film on those old 16 millimeters.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's weird how all these really dramatic moments in Alex's career.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We weren't filming.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we can't catch them.
		It's like Brigadoon.
		You know, you only catch one of those on video once every 500 years.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		Yeah.
		One of the things that I want to really stress to you, and to the listeners who don't make it their habit to listen to Alex's show on the regular, one of the things that's really frustrating about his show is most of it is extemporaneous bullshit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I mean, he does a lot of research.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, a lot of it is him relying on fake research that he's done to yell for long stretches of time about nothing.
		Yeah.
		And then sometimes someone will pull up something on the screen that's like a headline that kind of works for him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then a riff on that for a little while.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, toss it in there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Every now and then, Alex, you know, he'll try to get to the news.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And when he does, it is just reading headlines.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No context.
unidentified		No context.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A little conked, a little like a little clip, a little like, eh, that's stupid.
		The next headline, yeah.
		Basically.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		And so this is a story about American Airlines.
		They're going to trim back some cities, service to some cities.
		And this is basically how he covers it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's keep going with these headlines.
		American Airlines is dropping service to at least 15 cities CNN celebrates.
		They say probably for good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		His analysis of it is non-existent outside of pretending that CNN is celebrating it.
unidentified		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which I don't know how he's justifying that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know why they would.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But what would they, why would they celebrate it?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, were they to celebrate it?
unidentified		Oh, there's an exclamation point in the headline.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's fair.
		That's fair.
		We got to be more cautious with our punctuation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Why would they write an article about it if they weren't celebrating it?
		But this is what I'm talking about.
		This is how Alex covers news.
		The assertion that CNN is celebrating this is completely unfounded, and it's just in order to make CNN look like they're cheering for people.
		There's no analysis of the story.
		What cities are these that are services being trimmed back for?
		Why?
		What is the explanation?
		Is there an expectation that service will resume?
		What are the issues that impact that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, those are probably all in that story with that headline.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He didn't read it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
unidentified		Anyway, look, you know, I read some headlines.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I've got all these other articles that are here in my stack that deal with all this.
		And I'll be honest with you, I thought that was my COVID stack.
		I saw you, my COVID stack.
		I've got a COVID stack.
		That was like a stack that had some covet in it.
		It's the most insane garbage you've ever seen.
		And I'm going to find, oh, here's the COVID stack.
		Excuse me.
		Now I have the COVID stack.
		Excuse me.
		We're going to come back and hit that COVID stack that we have against here in studio.
		Separately, I was having one of those little nervous fits earlier because I couldn't remember the name of that product.
		It's got free shipping on it and it's still 50% off.
		Living Defense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Ah, so now it's time to plug it in because I remembered the name.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is almost exactly a mirror of what happened earlier.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Him just saying, oh, we'll get to this other news and then plug in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just don't understand why he calls them stacks when you could just call them your eight-pack power stack of stories every time.
		Yeah.
		That's simple, like branding.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Be selling subliminal marketing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Always.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is why he's not going to make it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't come back and get into his COVID stack.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm shocked by that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Instead, he does what I've needed him to do this whole time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Get into the millie.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let me bring up something here that I owe the listeners.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I didn't specifically tell Millie Weaver yesterday that I was no longer going to work with her after working with her for eight years because of the film Shadowgate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Good to know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Good to know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It just so happened to occur simultaneously with the release of the film Shadowgate.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, I think that what Alex is trying to say, he does end up fleshing out.
		It is because of the movie, but it's not like the content of the movie.
		Sure, sure, sure, sure.
		So much as it is, she's hanging out with weirdos.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		When the Shadowgate film got released, I didn't know what was in it.
		And then someone they sent over here to the office was saying things that I knew were patently not true.
		And when we brought up the things that weren't true, what they said on air about Roger Stone working with General Jones and all this stuff, I tried to respond to them and they just acted like I was crazy.
		So then I saw the internet researching the people they're involved in.
		And I was so blown away by it that I was like, this is so bad that if I talk about this, the media is going to attack me for it.
		But if I don't talk about it, I'm covering something up.
		And so I'm going to talk about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I heard that and I was like, did he listen to our episode?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was going to say who on the internet is investigating.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who is fucking investigating Patrick Bergey?
		Who around here is like, let's get to the bottom of the berg.
		What's going on?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It turns out it's Caitlin Bennett.
unidentified		Oh, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Has taken aim at her former friend.
		Sure, sure.
		Caitlin Millie Weaver, excuse me.
		The two of them are in a death battle now.
		And who cares?
		But apparently she's dug up some dirt on Tori and Patrick Bergey.
		That's what Alex is talking about.
		But I got kind of excited.
		They're like, hey, it seems like it might be about us.
		No, it's not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, it turns out that Alex doesn't like Millie's new friends.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
		I don't know what Millie's into.
		I want to think she's a good person.
		But the people she's involved with are some serious people.
		I'll leave it at that.
		They've been like sending us Punisher images on Twitter.
		Like that threatens us.
		Like when people threaten us, we get scared or whatever.
		You know what the Punisher does?
		Okay, great.
		So I'll probably go further now because of that, because you did that.
		That's a rule I have.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, if you send him a Punisher logo, then he goes further.
		That's a rule.
		That's a hard and fast rule.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's not because back when he used to be on Twitter, I got really drunk and I direct messaged the Infowars because their DMs were open.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I recall that.
unidentified		I DM'd them a gif of Bray Wyatt that said, we're weird.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I, a couple times early on, got fairly drunk.
		So fucking poked.
		But it was very seldom and no response.
		No.
		But again, that wasn't a Punisher logo.
		It wasn't specifically threatened.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're not wrestling fans.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I think it's really interesting to see Alex is expressing that, like, I'm going at you now, Tori, Patrick Bergey.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm coming for you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		With hard-hitting facts.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I'm excited to see if that continues.
		I don't think it will.
		No.
		Because Alex is kind of like, I'm going to say my piece and then I'm done with it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		If you go to banned.video, I'm not going to cover this ever again.
		I'm not going to respond to it.
		The full Shadowgate film now has a ride-by-point that I wrote this morning and then links to what Caitlin Bennett put out separately from her own research that we found, and best of our own belief is accurate about the people that are involved.
		So, we're not coupling, I mean, decoupling because of her getting arrested for reportedly a scuff up and a broken phone with her mom.
		And it's not because of the film Shadowgate, it's because once the film came out, people are like, Do you know who these people are?
		And then separately, they were attacking us at the same time.
		So, I went and looked and I had it checked by experts, and it was just like, Are you kidding me?
		But this is what attaches itself to Q.
		This is what attaches itself to anybody that's successful.
		Millie is successful, she did well, we gave her total freedom.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Alex is just basically being like, Millie got to a certain point of fame, and weirdos came out, like QAnon-type weirdos came out of nowhere.
		She was incredulous, she went along with them.
		She didn't realize the sort of delicate nature of the grift we run here and how these people will everything up if you let them get too close because they are actually dangerous.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex is sitting here like, I hate that I have to be competent right now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is actually a smart move for me, yeah, and it pains me to do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is the lowest level of like self-preservation, yeah, yeah.
		This is protection, yeah, yeah, this is like these people could be like legit dangerous, right?
		I don't know what they're gonna do, they're gonna blow up our spot if we are associated too closely with them.
		You don't know what they're gonna do, no, you can't do this, yeah.
		So, yeah, I honestly am like good instincts, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I do like that he did confirm uh, my assertion that beating the shit out of your mom and getting arrested for it is not what will get you fired from InfoWars, scuff up, yeah, that's what it's a scuff up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what I thought, that's what that's what I was waiting for.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so in this uh, this last clip going out to break here, I mean, we have a couple more clips, but this is the last clip about Millie.
		Alex bids her farewell.
		Okay, this is this is it, goodbye, Millie.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		She did well, we gave her total freedom, and I'm done.
		In fact, on Monday, I'm gonna take the Shadowgate film down and her channel because it's my site, it's my operation, and I choose to not be associated with it.
		And not even because of the film, I just saw them making statements about, oh, he didn't fund our film, it's our film, so they're acting like they don't want it there.
		You got it, it'll be off the site Monday.
		People that want it can go see it, you can download it.
		They asked me today to take it down, I'll take it down right now, too.
		So, I'm done.
		I'll never talk about Millie Weaver again, and I'm just saying I don't believe a word comes out of any of their mouths, and that's it.
		I mean, I mean, you couldn't write the script for this stuff, and I'm just all I have is the truth, so I've done it here.
		So, bombayage, Millie, have fun with those folks you're working with, she will treat you real good now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan, this is really fascinating because this is history.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Millie Weaver is officially the first person to be banned from banned.video.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Alex, isn't this censorship?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh my God, Alex, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are you saying that because your website is a private enterprise, you have the ability to remove anyone who you do not particularly like from your website?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		She might not want her stuff posted there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or if that's, you know, obviously that's her right.
unidentified		Then why would he say Monday?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, it takes a whole weekend for us to get the technology down to remove this from our aid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You got to drive a little traffic while you can.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And that's kind of what I'm thinking.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, goodbye, Millie.
unidentified		Oh, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's fun.
		I don't delight in her downfall at all.
		But I will tell you right now, I knew this was coming from the way that she was behaving earlier, and I think she deserves what she's going to get out of it.
		I don't delight in it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, this is trouble for Alex because they have been promoting for the last month that she has the Sunrise Movement's entire server.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And now we don't believe anything that she says.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Apparently not.
		Uh-oh.
		She has like the biggest scoop that she's been planning to break, and then now Shadowgate screwed it up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Shadowgate.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The Gate of Gift.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It turned out to be a pretty significant gate.
		It was more of a gate than I expected it to be.
		It turned out the real Shadowgate was Millie Weaver getting fired.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Boy, it's just what a week.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What a week.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's good stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, anyway, I went to college.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, there was your first mistake.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I should have used the Alex Jones method.
unidentified		Yes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I had like 15, 20 color encyclopedias by the time I was about 10.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And it was so incredible hearing about this siege in the Chinese or the Greeks or the Russians or the British Navy.
unidentified		I got a whole great grasp of history.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Time-life books, like 10 volumes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We'll get back to this here in a second, but I love the idea that he has 10 volumes about the occult at 11.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then was a Satanist at 18 or so.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Shouldn't they?
		Shouldn't you have known about the forbidden fruit that makes you so doesn't make sense?
		Timeline screwy.
unidentified		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I was reading about the whole history of the occult.
		It was pretty accurate, too.
		Today, you know, be an expert on it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Was it?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And if you go to college and try to get an education on something today, you don't get an education on anything.
		It's all an education how to fight with each other and how different ideas are weird and you can only have this school of thought.
		You're being taught to be a slave.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How would you know?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I got a classical education.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, you didn't.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		My parents would buy me any book I wanted.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, everyone's really stupid because they go to college when they could just read encyclopedias as a child and hey, learn about the occult and stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I understand that kind of thought.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's higher education.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I get it.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I get it.
		You think you can find it, you know, there's the impulse.
		People are self-taught.
		Many people who have done amazing things are self-taught.
unidentified		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones, you cannot learn.
		None of those people were like, I read some time-life books.
		Now I'm done.
		That was not how self-teaching works.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Generally not.
		And another thing that I would say is that I never think that college is mandatory.
		I don't think that at all.
		I think that there are a lot of incredibly intelligent, I never graduated, very high-functioning, brilliant people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm not one of them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But there are them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They exist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They are there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who did not go to college?
		But at the same time, I will never hear somebody like Alex, who didn't go to college, say things like, all they do is teach you that ideas are weird and not be offended by that.
		Like, there is a value to higher education.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And even if it's not essential for everybody, and maybe even not for a lot of people, it is still very valuable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		One thing I feel like he has no concept of is the fundamental flaw in if your education consists of your parents buying you any book you want, there is an issue there.
		Many of the things that I learned a lot from were books that I did not want.
		I do not want those.
		That is why you have to go somewhere where somebody enforces rules to make you read that shit.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Otherwise, you're self-selecting for your own bullshit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's a very good point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There are tons and tons of things in college that I learned begrudgingly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A lot of literature that actually turned out to be some of the most rewarding stuff was like things that I'm like, I'm not going to read this bullshit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
		Somebody, yeah, I had to read Anna Karenina, and I'm looking at it and I'm reading the first two chapters, just going, how can I escape this book?
		It's a great book.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, you can escape through the back door, which is the end of that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Finish it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, Alex hasn't read a book in years, or at least a political book.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But you know, I haven't read a book on geopolitics in years.
		I read hundreds and hundreds and hundreds, and I, I, hundreds and hundreds a year.
		I used to stay until 2-3 in the morning.
		Most nights, because I had to read this book.
		I had to read this book.
		I have to read every page of Carol Quigley's Tragedy No, all 1100.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which you only finished 800 of.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just a straight-up lie.
		What a based on Alex's own words.
		That's a straight-up lie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trying to present this image.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I had to burn the midnight oil to read every page of Carol Quigley's book.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I skimmed it.
		Such a narcissistic bullshit.
		Just like, not only have I read a lot of books, I've read more books than you can comprehend.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hundreds of books per I'm reading two books a day.
		I'm Wilt Chamberlaining books.
		That's what's happening.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know how many potential universes there are?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's how many books I read a day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex has a guest here on the 21st.
		It's Deanna Lorraine again.
		It looks like maybe she's doing a job interview to replace Millie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, let me ask you a question.
		If she were on Skype, how do you think this interview would go?
		Short.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But she is in studio.
		And who cares?
		I don't really care.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But Alex tells her a little story that I find interesting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex has a lot of timeline issues.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This morning I got up about 4 a.m.
		I went and at about 6:30 did a hike.
		And literally, the first few times it happened, I'll tell you, I'm being paranoid.
		These guys would be jogging on these paths were like 15 feet wide, 10 feet wide.
		They jog towards me when they're wearing a mask.
		Like, they're kind of aggressive.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And because they would like always adjust it when they ran by me.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's the same weird neurotic tics.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, like, the thing that I just get fascinated by is imagining that Alex can't lie and he's not making things up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So then a couple days before this, he got T-boned before coming into the show, had a mild concussion, still came in, did the show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This morning, he wakes up really early, sees a trailer for something, throws up in the stairwell, passes out for half an hour on the floor, and then goes jogging.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You still got to get your exercise in, Dan.
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You still got to get your exercise in.
		You know, it's a dedication to maintaining your body.
		His body is a temple.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It certainly is.
		Certainly is.
		I find this difficult to believe.
		Like, yeah, I went on this long hike where people with masks kept coming up to me right after I threw up in my stairwell and passed out on the floor.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is as much bullshit as Leo Zagami committing 911.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And being Jesus.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, he is Jesus.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which we often forget.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is not bullshit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He is the true Jesus.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I got some closure here, at least in as much as now we know that Alex has said goodbye to Millie.
		And I appreciate that.
		So I guess we're done with the Shadowgate saga now.
		I feel complete.
		We talked about the actual movie.
		We talked about Alex's attempt to use it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It going bad.
		And then on Friday, our show on Friday, we talked about the weird.
		Why aren't you talking about this?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is one of the most thorough examinations of something that means nothing.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, like none of this, the movie makes no sense.
		Nope.
		It's stupid bullshit.
		Their relationship, as ridiculous as it was, is only less ridiculous now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was apparently based on almost nothing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was a fragile, fragile relationship, much like life.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No kidding.
		A fragile relationship.
		I don't think they were close at all now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Probably not.
		Despite we're done with it.
		And now, I don't know.
		I have a hankering to time travel.
		So I might be going in the past for Wednesday.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think that's a good idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I feel like now that we have done this, this shadow gate kind of feels like a new chapter has opened up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I feel like Alex is like, obviously, we can't leave the present day alone because coming up to an election.
unidentified		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Shit's getting wild.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's also incredibly boring.
		So I feel like something that I may do is one of the things about doing this show is you learn along the way.
		And one of the things that I've learned over the course of doing the show is that whenever we set out to do investigations and time travel and stuff, we've been flawed because we have a question that we want to answer.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we're looking for the answer to that question.
		And I think that's a bad way to go about it.
		So I'm thinking maybe we time travel and just see what happens.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe we just, maybe we pick a random day and see if there are more locks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know about random day, but I think that maybe we go around when something happened.
		And instead of looking for like, when did Alex decide to support Trump?
		Sure, sure.
		Instead, we're just like, here is a time in history.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Let's see what happens.
		Let's see if we can get a Somali Pirates out of this one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just open-ended.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I might be doing some time traveling.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Letting Alex look, I don't want to let him control my reality.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
unidentified		Totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And as we only focus on the present day, it really is just at his whim.
		And when his whim is boring, it hurts me personally.
		So I'm not going to stand for it anymore.
		I'm going to assert my independence and say, go fuck yourself, Alex.
		You can throw up in your stairwell and go take a hike.
		I don't give a shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I like it.
		Yeah, this has felt like a very complete saga.
		I know it includes a documentary, but it also feels exactly like a week when we do the other day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the endgame.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the whole week of episodes there.
		It has a beginning, middle, and end.
		And now we move on to something different.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We have to survive.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And not totally different.
		And obviously, I'll still keep an eye on the present day.
		But the only thing that I regret is I wish it could have been contained within one week as opposed to Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Monday.
		I feel like there's an asymmetry to that that I don't like.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But otherwise, I do feel like the story has been told.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, 100%.
unidentified		You know?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Documentary, Fallout from Documentary, Millie is now fired.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It really is just a complete.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a season.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It's a season of the show in and of itself.
		It's like a mini-series.
		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the other thing that's really motivating me to feel like, all right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Take back the night.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whatever, Alex.
		Is that there are these things like Bannon getting arrested, the Senate intelligence report coming out, Roger dropping his appeal.
		There are these things that are like big.
		And Alex is just kind of hand-waving away.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what do you got?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have secret sources in New York that say that Bannon's arrest is too embarrassing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Look, I don't do secret sources ever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't get in with that stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Roger's appeal is going to completely change the ballgame and expose the globalists.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, you've got to think about it.
unidentified		He had to drop the appeal because he could never get a fair trial to come with it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		Why would you waste your time fighting the good fight?
		That's never done anybody any good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we'll see where we go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But before we end today, Jordan, let's take a little time to hear from the people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's go to the voicemail then.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Hey, Dan and Jordan, Policy Wong, Carl in Pennsylvania here.
		Just wanted to reach out and say thanks for all you do.
		The show definitely helped me because I listened to Alex unironically when I was but a young lad.
		And here we are now in the present.
		None of his predictions have come true.
		Nothing he really says come true.
		So I'm starting to think young me was kind of stupid.
		And just a remark for Jordan, I am a struggling Red Sox fan right now.
		So if you could pour one out for me or maybe mail me a hammer with which I can bash my teeth in while watching the Red Sox, that would be great.
		Thanks again for all you do.
		Go Socks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Carl.
unidentified		Oh boy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's tough.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's tough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What do you got on the Sox?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they're intentionally.
		They're playing out major league.
		Like, they're.
		It's almost like they're trying to lose as much as possible in order to sell the team and move it out of Boston for some reason.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's got to be rough.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We need a baseball team in Paris, so we're moving the Red Sox over there.
		We'll call it the French monster.
		That's what we'll do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If there's a season to throw, it might be this one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is a great season to throw.
		But they were going to throw it anyways.
		They traded away Mookie Betts, who is universally the second best player in baseball.
unidentified		And Big Popper was way less spirit of Boston.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's not the spirit of Boston.
		He got hurt.
		He got shot.
unidentified		What?
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, this was a few years ago.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I didn't hear about this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		He's shot or stabbed.
		One of those.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's terrible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it really sucks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, Carl, don't beat yourself up too much about like an Alex when you were younger.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, not at all.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very easy to, and I won't lie, I enjoyed him unironically for a period.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not necessarily believing everything, but I certainly didn't have the same critical stance that I do now when I was younger and got high a lot.
		So you got to let yourself go on that.
		That's not a judgment of yourself.
unidentified		Yo, cat guys, it's Isaiah calling out from Oregon.
unidentified		Just wanted to say I really missed the Project Camelot episodes, hearing about the spider leadership.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ophelia.
unidentified		Really just made my day.
		And yeah, that was all.
		Have a great day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Me too, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Me too.
unidentified		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wednesday would be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But you know what?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wednesday would be our normal, like, we're fucking Project Camelot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what, though, I miss more than Project Camelot is I miss Project Camelot being innocent.
		Yeah, in a sense.
		I miss it being just fun, goofy nonsense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The first time we meet Captain Mark Richards is just the only time you can really meet Captain Mark Richards.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		After that, it's all downhill.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, even that is a murderer, so it's not that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, that's fair.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's fair.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But there was such a there was a feeling of purity to the theories about space and aliens.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You just, you thought for a second, these are just space weirdos.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, they're people who are people.
		They're just space weirdo people.
		And that's great.
		I love space weirdos.
		They love being people.
		And then you're like, oh, they hate the Jews.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, once sort of like, oh no, this is, it made it a lot less fun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So less fun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would like to find something else that scratches that itch.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, me too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's very difficult.
		But I do miss it as well.
		Hopefully we'll find something.
unidentified		Hey, Dan and Jordan.
		This is Esme in Alabama, a technocrat, for about two years now.
		I've been listening to your show for two years since I've been an undergrad in college.
		And I have actually used a lot of dance research in a couple of my undergrad papers.
		And I am moving on to a doctorate in medical sociology.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Holy shit.
unidentified		And I'm really hoping to use some of y'all's research together to research my medical sociology degree and sort of like have a starting basis for where to go off of where conspiracy theories lead us in terms of health and stuff like that.
		Really great your show.
		I listen to it just about every day.
		I listen to a rerun just about every day.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Don't do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's my big fan.
unidentified		My mom turned me on to you guys, and she's also a policy wonk.
		And she'll be happy to hear this on your messages.
		Thanks for everything.
		And you are appreciated here in Alabama if all states.
		Thanks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Esme.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Esmond.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And shout out to your mom.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Shout out to Alabama.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Roll Talk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Intergenerational enjoyment.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's not a lot of stuff that my parents and I can enjoy together.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Obviously, it definitely wouldn't be this podcast.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've heard that from a number of people.
		I do think that's really cool.
		And I mean, I guess a lot of my ideas about parents are people who are very put off by obscenity.
		So that kind of always feels like it's an impossibility, but not everybody has the same sensibilities.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		One of my parents have said something along the lines of, you know, I listened to your podcast.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's always come with the very clear tonal caveat of like, for a tiny bit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, I got through about 10 minutes and I was like, this isn't for me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I made it to the first yell.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, this isn't for me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's real cool, Esme.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Wish you the best with your postgraduate studies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We support that 100%.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not using our dumbasses for research.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But we do support your path of study.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nobody's ever like, I used one of Jordan's jokes at the end.
unidentified		Check out this Chewbacca push.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not a bad Chewbacca.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not terrible.
unidentified		Nope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I have checked it out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That was the whole call.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate that.
unidentified		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Hey, guys.
		This is Ben.
		I just wanted to call and say thank you for what you guys do.
		I was listening to the recent episode where you played the voicemail of the teacher from the rural area.
		I, too, am from a rural area and I work in a very blue-collar field.
		And the information you guys give me has been valuable for doing what I've done, turning down the heat.
		So when they start getting close to Alex B fringe stuff, I can just go, well, did you know that that's based on this and stuff like that?
		I just wanted to call and say I really appreciate you guys.
		I would really like it if you guys would shout out the Discord and the Reddit because we have a really good community.
		It's very wholesome.
		It's one of the best ones I've been involved with.
		But not to go into too long.
		I wanted to say stay true.
		Love you guys.
		Bye.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I try to err on the side of not playing messages that are strictly just like, thank you, you're awesome.
		Sure, sure, sure.
		But I think that this call brings up a couple of really salient things.
		Yeah, good things to point out.
		One is that that's so awesome that deescalation is something that is so possible for people and that we could be of any help with that is really humbling because that really is probably the best path in terms of dealing with people who are going down these roads.
		Like some shaming.
		I don't know if that's productive, but cooling the temperature a little bit, the way you put it, is so essential.
		And then also I wanted to allow the shout out for the Reddit and the Discord.
		I don't know a whole lot about the Discord.
		I know that some people run it and they have a good time chatting and stuff.
		I don't know where it is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know anything about Discord.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know anything about Discord.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I understand that I'm old.
		I get it.
		I get it.
		I don't understand you're young.
		I'm not on TikTok.
		I get it, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But there is also a Knowledge Fight Reddit board that people chat around and have conversations about stuff and what have you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So check those out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I am always amazed at how we are very lucky to have a group of people who find each other through us.
		Everything that I hear from people who listen to the show about our groups is like, these are the nicest people that have.
		We're lucky to do that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, very much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if we rate good people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm just glad that it's not all inviting.
		Everybody hating each other.
		That would be suck bummer.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One last message here, Jordan.
unidentified		Hi there, Dan and Jordan.
		It is your humble policy wonk, John Looker, on a very expensive call from Adelaide, South Australia.
		Holy shit.
		I just wanted to let you know that I do, in fact, have the inside scoop that Deanna Lorraine is a fascist.
		Do you know how I know?
		Because she pronounced the Australian city Melbourne.
		Not the way it's actually pronounced, which is Melbourne.
		Or if you are from there, you might say Melbourne.
		Only a true fascist would make that mistake.
		So case closed.
		Exposed.
		Anyway, love your guys' work.
		I want to send you guys some novelty copy Keith Cuff.
		So comment as you see fit, if that's something you'd like.
		Forgive my voices.
		Have a good one.
		Bye.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That wasn't bad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That wasn't a bad Lionel.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, that wasn't a bad Lionel.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No trace of an Australian accent in that Lionel.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Straight up Lionel.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the pronunciation of Melbourne.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Pronunciation of the mispronunciation.
unidentified		Melbourne.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Spectacular.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much for the call.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It turns out I was a fascist until I was 27 whenever somebody pointed out that it's Melbourne.
		Yeah.
		I only ever read it.
		And then somebody was like, you stupid bastard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have that experience about three times a week.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A different name.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Kawaka.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Kawaka.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, you're definitely a fascist for that.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a very nice offer that you make.
		And if you'd like to send something, just go ahead and send an email to knowledgefight at gmail.com and we can set that up.
		Yes.
unidentified		But thank you for the calls, everybody.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We'll be back on Wednesday.
		Indeed.
		But until then, Jordan, we have a website.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We do have a website.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We are on Twitter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's at Knowledge Under Score Fight and IGoTobed Jordan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep, we're on Facebook.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We are on Facebook.
		And also, there's a Discord in the Reddit community.
		And if you would like to download Sugar iTunes, leave a review and all of that stuff.
		And if you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out with people fighting the good fight.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		We'll be back.
		But until then, I'm Neo.
		I'm Leo.
		I'm DZX Clark.
		I'm Daryl Rundis.
		I am the Gate of Gates.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas.
		You're on the air.
		Thanks for holding.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified		I'm a huge fan.
unidentified		I love your work.

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