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Aug. 21, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
01:22:55
#472: August 17-19, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan trace the beginning of the week on The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex deals with the fallout of the release of Millie Weaver's "documentary" ShadowGate, pretends that it's totally cool that Roger Stone dropped his super-important appeal, and goes all-in on Laura Loomer's congressional campaign.

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Main voices
a
alex jones
13:43
d
dan friesen
40:08
j
jordan holmes
18:24
Appearances
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d
david icke
00:10
d
dr joseph mercola
00:43
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
It's time to pray.
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Need money.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Stop it.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your room.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
Man, I can't...
Everything is plants right now, man.
jordan holmes
Everything is plants right now.
dan friesen
Everything is plants.
jordan holmes
I know.
You're retreating into your plants, I feel.
You're escaping from the world.
dan friesen
I'm trying to become one with the green, as it were.
jordan holmes
Because humanity's not doing great right now, might as well switch to the green.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I feel this call of nature, and the only way I can really satisfy it within my middle of Chicago existence...
You know, it's tough without a car having too much access to the wilds.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
And Jack London isn't exactly the most fun reads.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
So what I do is I've just planted a ton of shit, and I'm experiencing a little bit of nature vicariously within the apartment.
I know I brought it up, the flowers on the cucumber a couple episodes back.
There's a bunch more flowers.
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
It's pretty.
It's life!
dan friesen
All I want to do is garden.
It's a very weird turn in my life that it has taken now.
jordan holmes
You know, a lot of midlife crises are like, let's get a car, let's leave my wife.
unidentified
Dan's like, I like plants!
dan friesen
Peppers, peas.
That cantaloupe thing is growing pretty well.
That's your cantaloupe, by the way.
jordan holmes
I know, I'm excited.
I will be taking that home with me soon.
dan friesen
For those who don't know, listening, Jordan has requested, we went to, what was it, Home Depot a while back.
And I was like, I'll grow you whatever you want.
Pick out some seeds.
jordan holmes
I don't know why a melon was like, well, obviously Dan should grow me a melon.
dan friesen
Obviously, cantaloupe is the way to go.
And bok choy.
I have some bok choy growing for you as well.
jordan holmes
I'm excited.
dan friesen
So yeah, those are coming in nice.
jordan holmes
I don't know what I'm going to do with them.
dan friesen
I just want to sit around.
I want to talk about my plants.
I want to look at them.
I want to fiddle with them.
jordan holmes
I want you to grow something so good that you want to put it into a competition and then you become a competition grower.
dan friesen
Not a chance.
jordan holmes
That'd be so fun.
dan friesen
That's not going to happen.
jordan holmes
I want you with giant gourds all day.
dan friesen
I'm not a gourd guy.
jordan holmes
You're a tech guy.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
Yes, I am.
773 Tech Guy is my phone number.
No, I'm not a gourd person.
I've never been.
I don't like squash.
I don't like pumpkins.
jordan holmes
You don't grow giant stuff to eat it later.
dan friesen
Some people do.
jordan holmes
Who eats a giant gourd?
dan friesen
People like squash.
jordan holmes
That would make me feel uncomfortable if I knew I was eating a giant gourd.
dan friesen
I mean, if you cut it up, how would you know?
jordan holmes
No, because it's something beautiful.
It should remain large.
dan friesen
Okay, fine.
What's your bright spot?
You've ruined plants for me.
I don't like plants anymore.
jordan holmes
Good.
Focus on the show, Dan.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
You're my meal ticket.
dan friesen
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
Oh!
The new album by Glass Animals is fantastic.
Specifically the song Waterfalls Out Your Mind.
Really, really good.
dan friesen
You're turning into Pitchfork over here with your album reviews.
jordan holmes
I like a good kick drum.
I like a well-programmed hi-hat.
Those two things are great.
Give me a little high-pitched falsetto voice.
You've won me over.
dan friesen
Sure.
Okay, we'll have to give it a look.
Give it a listen.
I've not heard this, but I'm aware of the group this time.
jordan holmes
R&B is great.
dan friesen
As opposed to some of the other times we've brought up things that are like, I don't know.
Might be a musician.
So, Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to go over.
We're going to be talking about August 17th through 19th, 2020.
I'm Dan, this is 2020.
jordan holmes
Damn it, you were doing something different.
dan friesen
Once.
jordan holmes
It's August.
dan friesen
I did that one time.
It's August 2020.
So, this is a coda.
Sort of outro of the week of Millie Weaver.
We started the week with Shadowgate.
Wednesday we talked about Alex's immediate response and distaste for the people who are in Shadowgate.
jordan holmes
This saga has moved so fast.
It has been spectacular to watch.
It really has been.
dan friesen
It has.
jordan holmes
Beginning, middle, and end.
It's very satisfying.
It has a completion to it.
dan friesen
It doesn't seem like it's over.
There's more trouble.
unidentified
Maybe not.
dan friesen
There's more trouble coming, for sure.
But I thought we'd sort of be done with it, dead and buried, with Alex's embarrassment of having Patrick Berge on, then realizing he hates Patrick Berge.
jordan holmes
He hates Patrick Berge so much.
unidentified
And then being like, I got fucking conned.
dan friesen
But that's not where the saga ended.
On Wednesday, it turned out that Alex terminated his working relationship with Millie.
jordan holmes
Well, she was never his employee, honestly.
dan friesen
Well, that's why I didn't say fire.
jordan holmes
He didn't even need to terminate it.
dan friesen
Contract ends.
She tweeted that.
I don't know if it's true or not, but I would assume it's true.
Doesn't seem any real reason to make that up.
Then she challenged Alex to a $10,000 bet about whether her documentary said the things Alex was saying or not.
And I'm going to be honest, she'd win that bet.
jordan holmes
Yeah, she would.
dan friesen
No, no, that's totally true.
Then Caitlin Bennett, another Infowars non-employee, started talking shit on Millie.
They got into a fight.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And Millie tweeted, where we go one, we go all.
Oh, man.
So she's appearing to lean into QAnon.
jordan holmes
It's been wild, yes.
dan friesen
It's been...
A bad week.
jordan holmes
I do like her immediate pivot to a different grift.
That's nice.
That's the smartest thing I've ever seen her do.
dan friesen
I think that Tori and maybe even Bergy are Q folk.
So I think that her experts that she's been hanging out with to make this film Shadowgate.
I think that...
I think that they might have helped to steer her.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you think she's been where we wouldn't go, where we all go, but, you know, she's been working at Infowars, so she knew she couldn't jump on that right away.
dan friesen
Take the mask off once.
jordan holmes
I mean, she wasn't working at Infowars.
She was working a year by.
dan friesen
It could threaten her contract possibilities for the future.
So yeah, so today what I wanted to do is the 17th was Monday and then the 19th is Wednesday.
So I wanted to go through that period of time where Millie got out of jail on Monday.
She had her hearing for the judge.
And then on Wednesday, on the 19th, she had been let go by Infowars.
And so I wanted to see what was going on on Alex's show.
See how he was dealing with all of this.
jordan holmes
This is a close relationship with somebody he's never met before, of course.
dan friesen
I will say...
I was surprised by how this ends up going.
And we'll get into that, but before we do, we've got to take a moment to say thank you.
Some folks who signed up and are supporting the show.
So first, Thomas, thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Thomas.
dan friesen
Tommy, thank you.
Next, Wallace E. Ponk, thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Wallace.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Brian M., thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Brian.
dan friesen
Next, AJ, thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, AJ.
dan friesen
Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Ah, no, it was not.
dan friesen
He has a lot of contracts.
jordan holmes
That's true.
Has he terminated our contract yet?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I don't think he started one.
dan friesen
Just one more difference between me and Rainbow Snatch.
Next, Bajunk.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Bajunk.
dan friesen
Next, Whitney H. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thank you, Whitney H. What?
jordan holmes
Come on.
dan friesen
Huh?
jordan holmes
That's the ghost of Whitney Houston.
You know it and I know it.
dan friesen
Oh, it could be.
jordan holmes
It could be.
dan friesen
Next, Nick A. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Nick.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Sarah R. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Sarah.
alex jones
Thank you.
dan friesen
And finally, TexasRed99.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Texas Red.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
If you are enjoying the show and you like what we do, you could take a moment to go if you'd like to support.
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
Okay, here we go.
dan friesen
Go to our website, click the button that says support the show.
We would appreciate it.
Or, if you would like, if you, you know.
Or, you could take that generosity.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Make a documentary about it.
jordan holmes
Right.
alex jones
Okay.
jordan holmes
There we go.
Now we're running.
dan friesen
Talk to a couple weirdos about this generosity.
Lose your contract with your primary employee.
I don't know.
Just give it to a charity in your area.
I can help people in need.
That went way off the rails.
I don't know what happened there, Jordan.
I'd be honest.
My brain just like boop.
jordan holmes
Delightful.
dan friesen
So, we're going to start here.
Oh, I should make one correction.
On our last episode on Wednesday when we were talking about Millie, I said that one of the charges was burglary that she got hit with, but it's actually robbery.
I was just using the term because that's how the conversation was framed by her.
And I accidentally used the terms interchangeably.
The actual charge was robbery.
And I think burglary is a much more fun word.
jordan holmes
It is more fun.
It suggests that you have to break in somewhere, though, for me.
dan friesen
You need a second story man.
You need a cat burgling.
jordan holmes
You have to descend from somewhere to burgle.
dan friesen
But I apologize about my slip of language there.
jordan holmes
You're doing great.
dan friesen
So, on the 17th, we're going to start here.
It is a little bit of an update, actually, because, as we know from one of our drops, I believe the Raptor Princess drop, most people do not crap in the pool, unless they're babies.
jordan holmes
Unless they're babies.
dan friesen
We've learned that from Alex, although there is an update on this.
alex jones
This is not a social contract where there's a neighborhood pool and everyone agrees not to take a dump in it.
Because now there's a phenomenon where adults just crap in pools.
People are so lazy and selfish.
dan friesen
Uh-oh.
Wow.
jordan holmes
Society is really crumbled.
dan friesen
It is crumbled to the point where there is a phenomenon.
alex jones
A phenomenon!
dan friesen
There's a movement of adults crapping in pools because they're so lazy.
jordan holmes
There's a movement?
dan friesen
I guess.
I mean, a bowel movement.
unidentified
Hey!
jordan holmes
There we go!
unidentified
Do we have awards for that kind of thing?
dan friesen
Yeah.
I give it to myself as I'm editing.
jordan holmes
I think you just egotted with that one joke right there.
dan friesen
So, Alex is just rambling, man.
This episode is just triding water.
Just rambling about Satan and shit.
alex jones
They're under the wings of an absolutely savage entity.
With just a vicious will.
The devil doesn't just want the planet.
It hates us.
We're a more advanced life form.
We're just at an embryonic level.
And he's looking at this larva going, that's the big guy right there.
He made these damn things.
God, look how powerful they are.
If I can just get control of them, they'll build whatever I want.
I'm going to tear them inside out before I flush them down the toilet because I'm going to beat this guy.
And that's Satan in a nutshell, folks.
dan friesen
That's Satan in a nutshell.
jordan holmes
That is Satan in a nutshell.
dan friesen
Yep.
If I know the devil, that is the devil.
jordan holmes
I've heard that explanation of the devil many times, you know.
Have you ever seen those movies about Catholic iconography, like the...
dan friesen
Da Vinci Code?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Those kind of movies.
Or The Order starring...
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Is that the one with the soul eaters?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Great.
Great stuff.
alex jones
Sure.
jordan holmes
A lot of them were like...
Here's what the problem with the devil is.
He knows we're evolved too far beyond him.
We're in an embryonic stage.
That's what Catholic priests preach from the pulpit, Dan.
Every time you say mass, it's also...
dan friesen
To be fair, those movies are fiction.
jordan holmes
So is what he's saying.
dan friesen
That's true.
That is true.
Yeah, so the devil is jealous of humans because we can build things.
The devil wants to trick us into building his stuff to take down God.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Alright.
jordan holmes
What is that, like a catapult?
dan friesen
This is a political show about the dangers of globalization.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And how nationalism is wonderful, but no, it's the devil.
jordan holmes
It is the devil.
dan friesen
It's so much of this stuff.
I was sitting here thinking, I'm like, this is Monday.
What's happening with Millie?
You have a real house on fire kind of issue on Monday.
And he didn't get to the situation until maybe like a half hour into the show.
And when he did, it was not that great.
alex jones
Let's get into the Millie Weaver situation.
jordan holmes
Yes, let's.
alex jones
I don't take advantage of events that take place for an agenda I have.
I just go with what I really believe the truth is.
dan friesen
Now that implies that someone else did do that.
jordan holmes
That is basically what he's saying, isn't it?
dan friesen
That is the implication.
jordan holmes
It is.
alex jones
And I got blindsided on Friday because Millie had said she was ready to come out with a film.
That's Saturday, and I understand films get behind.
That's great.
She's made a lot of documentaries.
I was sure it was going to be interesting.
We'd been promoting it here on air, running trailers for it.
I hadn't seen it.
Then she said, I need more time.
I said, take weeks if you need it.
I said, it's not my film.
I mean, I fund you guys, but you're freelance.
And I didn't really know everybody in their film, but I had one lady that's in the film on that election fraud in Kentucky that Millie got on.
She seemed, you know, informative and interesting and well-spoken.
And there was clearly fraud in Kentucky.
So this is great.
People in this film haven't seen it.
And then I'm coming into the show.
jordan holmes
This story is well told, by the way.
alex jones
Let's go back.
Millie starts calling me saying, hey, this Patrick Berge guy that's in the film, he's in Austin.
And I said, okay, well, I'll have him on.
Let me know when the film's ready.
Let me see the film.
Send me some clips of the film, and then we'll set you up, and he can be in studio.
Well, nothing happens on that Wednesday, Thursday, and then she calls me in the morning.
I'm working out.
I don't answer.
But she's saying, hey, Patrick Berge's in town.
You ought to get him on.
And I called Daria up, the producer, and I say, hey, you know, see what's going on with this.
Is she ready with the film?
Can I see it?
When's it coming out?
We don't know.
I come in to do the show.
It's a couple hours later.
And they come in right for the show and they go, Millie Weaver's been arrested.
We're getting the video.
I go, arrested?
What the hell?
In Ohio.
Yeah, she's been SWAT teamed.
That's what the internet was saying.
So I go in there and say, oh, she's been SWAT teamed.
I haven't seen the footage yet.
It wasn't SWAT team.
And then it looked fake because the cops are like, oh, Gavin Wentz, your husband, who wants you too?
And no, we're not going to give it to you.
And I'm like, okay.
Then the internet starts saying, I faked this for this film.
I've never seen the film.
I don't make money off the film.
It's free.
Millie does her own thing.
I'm not distancing myself from the film.
I don't know what's in it.
I'm just nice promoting it.
Trusting my correspondence.
dan friesen
I'm just a nice guy.
unidentified
I'm just a nice guy mixed up in all this.
I had nothing to do with it.
dan friesen
I paid her to make it.
I paid for its creation, but I had nothing to do with it.
I don't know shit.
jordan holmes
Alright.
Okay.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Okay.
So...
Why is he telling me this story like he's in an interrogation room when no one is in trouble for anything?
dan friesen
Well, Millie's in trouble for beating up her mom.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, that's fine.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
But in InfoWars, that's fine.
You have fun with that.
You don't fire somebody just for beating up their mom in InfoWars universe.
dan friesen
It doesn't seem like it.
jordan holmes
It seems like Millie was fired specifically for opportunism.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And in InfoWars, that's just that you can't do that.
dan friesen
Let's be totally transparent and clear.
She got fired because Roger Stone's name was in that documentary.
That's what happened.
jordan holmes
Yes, I understand.
Roger Stone said, get rid of her.
Of course he did.
dan friesen
That's what's happening.
jordan holmes
That's all that needed to happen.
dan friesen
There's nothing else.
This Patrick Berge guy could be a big old creep.
They could have all kinds of shady shenanigans.
They could be QAnon people.
It would not matter at all.
jordan holmes
He could be Ted Nugent.
dan friesen
But he had the temerity to point the finger towards Roger Stone, and that means you are out at InfoWars.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
That seemed right up.
dan friesen
But this telling of the story, I think, is probably, like, it sounds fairly accurate because it's convoluted.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It is boring.
jordan holmes
Incredibly boring.
dan friesen
It makes little sense.
None.
But it's kind of how you would be like, Look, I'm just the kind of guy who has liars that are on my payroll, and I fund them to make bullshit.
And, hey, you know what?
This one went sideways.
What are you going to do?
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is that.
I just don't understand why he's being so cagey when there are no consequences in any direction for him.
Because he sounds cagey as fuck.
dan friesen
I think the consequences are Roger looks bad.
unidentified
Does he?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Who knows what Alex is dealing with behind the scenes, though, too.
So, Alex is very clear that he does not think that this arrest was in any way related to the film.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But he's really suspicious.
alex jones
I don't think it was to stop the film, because it didn't stop the film.
And the film was supposed to be out five, six, seven days before.
I mean, if they did that, boy, the deep state did a perfect job to then go hype something up.
That's why people thought, I must have hyped something up.
Or that I must have masterminded this because why would you have the cops right there when they're supposedly just going to release a film?
I don't know when they were going to release a film, but what really got to me was how the guys here in town waiting to come on my show and that I've never sent the film.
And I'm told, oh, technical problems, we'll get a copy to you, whatever.
I usually watch something before I talk about it, especially if I find it.
And then to find out Roger's implicated as a kingpin in it with no evidence, that kind of hurts, you know?
Oh, my God.
Somebody, no.
Roger Stone secretly works for Obama or whatever.
So I'm not mad at that guy.
I'm not mad at the Tory lady, any of these people.
The Internet can go research these folks for themselves, figure out what they think about the whole deal.
That's why I'm hands-off with Paul Watson or Millie Weaver or Caitlin Bennett.
You can ask any of these people.
Very little feedback.
As long as they're putting good material out and fighting the New World Order, I just support them.
And then they say, InfoWars is our sponsor, and we get great content to fight the New World Order.
dan friesen
As long as people are getting attention, I just leave them alone and let it be.
But then sometimes it's bad kinds of attention.
Wow.
That was what happened here.
jordan holmes
See, this is what I'm saying.
This is what I'm saying.
Like, if he was there, if we were at a bar, and he said, you know, if somebody makes claims about you without any evidence, that kind of makes you feel bad.
I throw hands.
Like, I just can't.
Like, it's an instant reaction of just like...
How fucking dare you?
You said that!
You said that!
You son of...
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
It's like, okay, now, think about...
jordan holmes
Take one step further.
dan friesen
Other people.
jordan holmes
There are human beings that are not you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
What?
jordan holmes
If you feel this way, apply that to other human beings.
dan friesen
No, no, no, no, because they're all globalists.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
So Alex doesn't like QAnon people, which I think that he's decided that Patrick Berge at least is.
And this is Monday.
He's very clearly being like, Millie is fucking done.
alex jones
People becoming famous and people interfacing and people being leaders is hard.
And the globalists come in and they try to sabotage and they try to do all this stuff.
You know, it's like, I want to embrace the Q people and believe it's all real and good folks, but...
They're like, Jones, you're going to get it for the child kidnapping rings.
And we pioneered exposing it.
Or, yeah, you ought to support Millie more.
You turned your back on her.
Yeah, I bought him an RV.
Found him $100,000 plus a year.
I'm just a horrible person.
And then it's just someone I've never met in my office in an outfit with a.45 jacket on going, he leaves that guy's a new world order.
I'm the good guy.
I'm the good person.
I exposed the Roger Stone.
It's just like, or it's worse.
I don't know.
So that's the Millie Weaver thing.
I don't know how long this relationship is going to continue.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
dan friesen
On Monday.
jordan holmes
I don't know how long this relationship is going to continue.
dan friesen
Two more days, apparently.
jordan holmes
I have to look at her contract for the employee that I don't have to see if I can just...
Is this an at-will contract that I can just terminate?
dan friesen
I gotta call my HR representative father and see what...
jordan holmes
Dad, take care of this!
dan friesen
Dad, pay off Millie.
jordan holmes
Make her go away, Dad.
dan friesen
That's not good.
jordan holmes
That's bad.
Very funny.
dan friesen
Pretty funny.
jordan holmes
So funny.
I just love how Millie could never have imagined that this was how it was going to go.
I think that's what I enjoy most about this.
She has no clue.
She had no clue that this was even a possibility.
In my defense, neither did I. Or in her defense, neither did I. Yeah, me neither.
dan friesen
I mean, this week has been pretty surprising on a number of fronts.
jordan holmes
Blindsiding, yeah.
dan friesen
And it really goes to show something.
And I'm not sure exactly what that thing is, but I think Alex, like...
Millie was a property for him.
In terms of if you're a team, she's a franchise player.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Within the Infowars umbrella.
Because you have people who are like...
Who are there, who are famous, like Paul Joseph Watson.
He's too famous.
His face is recognizable.
Same to a certain extent with Owen Troyer.
He might be right on the cusp.
And then you have people like Savannah Hernandez, who isn't nearly...
Or Arison Smith.
No one really knows what they look like.
They can blend into a crowd and pretend that they're not with Infowars.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
But those people aren't really all that good.
jordan holmes
No, they're terrible.
dan friesen
They're not that good at getting attention.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Conversely, Paul Joseph Watson, pretty good fucking with people.
Someone like Caitlin Bennett is really good at antagonizing people, but she also gets yelled, everyone yells, gun girl, at her.
And you were the diaper protest at Kent State, girl.
You were turning point.
jordan holmes
You shit your pants.
You're not going to beat it.
dan friesen
They have those problems with their ability to go out and do field pieces, whereas Millie had almost a real center of that, and that is that She had her own popularity.
I wouldn't say that she was gigantic, but she had her own little niche.
She had her fans, and she was not as overexposed as someone like Caitlin Bennett that she could get away with doing some kinds of field pieces.
jordan holmes
No one knows that she shit her pants before she even shows up.
dan friesen
Yeah, and there's no, like, gun girl thing to yell at her in order to mock.
She was somebody who had, I mean, not a lot of talent, not a lot of potential.
jordan holmes
Very little creativity.
dan friesen
But there was usefulness to her.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And she was young.
jordan holmes
She's 29. She's a great documentarian.
dan friesen
I don't know about that.
She's somebody who Alex could have really been, and it seems like was very invested in.
And the fact that this break is happening over what just appears to be...
A bad documentary.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It shows me something.
I knew that there's no loyalty here.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
But the extent to which that lack of loyalty is glaring.
jordan holmes
You don't fuck with Stone.
dan friesen
It's overwhelming.
jordan holmes
You don't fuck with Stone.
Imagine if Alex had just been like, Whoa.
That new Russia thing.
Huh, Roger?
unidentified
Huh?
jordan holmes
Look at all that.
Your shirt did a lot more than...
And then he's dead.
Like, it's that easy, you know?
He's just gone.
dan friesen
Wait, wait, so Alex starts questioning Roger, and then Alex is fired?
jordan holmes
And then Alex is fired.
dan friesen
He didn't work there.
jordan holmes
Roger takes over.
Roger's like, I financed this thing the whole time.
Honestly, I've never met Alex before.
dan friesen
Alex is a contractor.
Exactly.
unidentified
Alex's dad is like, we've decided to terminate our relationship with Alex.
dan friesen
I don't know if it's as simple as just like she talked shit on Roger and now she's gone.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
It's very confusing to me.
jordan holmes
I mean, here's the bigger issue, right?
I feel like in a normal environment, if you were working at a company as an on-air personality and you beat up your mom and got arrested for it.
I think you would be fired.
That's a regular thing that happens.
We're just jaded because we're in the Infowars universe where it's like, yeah, you beat up your mom.
dan friesen
It would be a meeting for sure.
And here's another thing that would happen in the normal world.
If you funded a documentary, you probably get Final Cut.
jordan holmes
Well, there's that.
dan friesen
You probably get to see it before it comes out.
jordan holmes
No!
When you fund a documentary, you get a burlap bag, you draw a dollar sign on it, you fill it with money, and you hand it over.
dan friesen
And then some guy who's in it, who you've never met, shows up and talks shit about your friend.
jordan holmes
You know what?
It's almost partly your fault.
You would almost say that you could have somebody for it.
dan friesen
I would not say partly.
unidentified
I would say largely Alex's fault.
jordan holmes
I got blindsided by this thing I bought.
dan friesen
Yeah, mismanagement all around.
I mean, like, if you want to talk about, like...
Where the buck stops.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Alex could have averted all of this.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
With just better management, better training of his people.
He's like, oh, I like to be hands-off.
Well, maybe that's bad.
unidentified
It could be.
dan friesen
Maybe that's part of the problem.
jordan holmes
Maybe there's some issues with your libertarian views.
dan friesen
Yeah, maybe if you're that hands-off, the people that you're funding...
End up having hands-on time with weirdos.
jordan holmes
That's possible.
dan friesen
Who are more weird than you.
jordan holmes
That tends to happen.
dan friesen
So Alex doesn't want to shit on Millie.
There is a real sense of, like, I don't want to go to war with her or anything.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
But I get the sense from listening to this episode that what Alex believes happened is that she got set up by Patrick Berge.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Berge set her up.
alex jones
Obviously, we wanted to watch something before I did a review or before I did it, but it just all happened where that didn't happen, and it got rushed out, and the whole thing just felt weird.
It felt weird to everybody else.
Like, what's going on here?
Something weird's about all of this.
dan friesen
Agreed.
alex jones
Again, I think Millie is a good person.
jordan holmes
That's what you say before you fire somebody for sure.
alex jones
But just imagine being a 29-year-old mom, and you get tens of millions of views a week on YouTube and Twitter.
And she's beautiful and she's smart.
And then there's all these people that come around.
jordan holmes
Oh, people.
She got in with the wrong crowd, Dan.
alex jones
Over the years, I know what those people have told her.
Everybody goes at our employees and our reporters and tries to run them off.
It's part of the Democrat psyop.
And I learned to just ignore it.
The secret weapon is just totally ignore it.
It's all about business.
And as soon as it starts, I just stop talking to people.
And that always ends it.
But then, something blows up like this, all crazy.
And the main guy in the film, that's this spook we're all supposed to totally trust, says Roger Stone's the kingpin with no evidence.
And then it's a film that we're promoting.
And I said, you know what?
They say that in the film.
It's stupid.
Overall, the film's good, though.
I'll promote it.
I'll just go with it.
dan friesen
What is that?
Why?
jordan holmes
All right.
So is a general vibe of what Hillary smells like evidence that she is a demon?
Would you call that gossip?
He's calling her a demon with evidence, right?
dan friesen
Right, right, right.
She smells like sulfur.
I've heard from non-gossip sources.
jordan holmes
Whereas this guy, who out of nowhere kind of assumes that Roger Stone is a politically connected person who is able to influence events.
On a perhaps even global scale, if you consider colluding with a foreign power to steal an election.
dan friesen
It's interesting.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
I mean, like, obviously I have no fucking idea what's going on with any of this, but I mean, I think Alex is right.
Like, Millie tried to do her own thing.
She relied on really dodgy-ass sources.
That's true.
It created something that runs counter to one of the main pillars of Infowars over the last four or five years.
jordan holmes
Stone is infallible.
dan friesen
Right.
So, I mean, like, I don't...
I think he's right, but I look at it differently.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, I agree.
dan friesen
Yeah, like, the basic facts of what appears to have happened is correct.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
Alex is wrong about the documentary arguing that Stone is the kingpin of stuff.
jordan holmes
He is right.
dan friesen
That is a misrepresentation of the documentary.
jordan holmes
Which makes sense for him.
He was misrepresented.
dan friesen
Well, of course.
It's the way that you create the straw man that you need for the argument of this is offensive.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
But in reality, it's no big deal.
jordan holmes
I like to imagine.
In a better world, she would have been fired just because it was so bad.
Just on the merits.
dan friesen
Anywhere other than Infowars, you probably would be.
That documentary was trash.
jordan holmes
Absolute trash.
dan friesen
In this next clip, Alex starts talking about lockstep that he thinks is a program, which is not.
And then he gets to talking a little bit more about Millie.
I took away from this clip the implication that he thinks that Millie stabbed him in the back.
And that she has no honor.
alex jones
Anybody can go read Operation Lockstep by the Rockefeller Foundation about setting up a planetary prison, a global police state, I mean, and the end of humanity as we know it, and the shutdown of the industrialized world to make populations collapse.
Do you know what that means?
I mean, I'm sitting here telling you this is going on.
You can verify it.
And then all the globalists do is change the subject to infighting, just like the race rioting and the divide and conquer.
That's all empires do is divide and conquer people.
unidentified
So they won?
alex jones
And then I watch classically.
That done to us over and over again by people we think are our friends, people that we've supported and financed and done everything for and done nothing but been loving and good and then to have a knife stuck in your back over and over again, it just makes you sad for people.
I'm not a victim.
I don't feel sorry for myself.
I wonder how are we turning out so many twisted, screwed up people that don't know honor or justice or freedom and all they know is betrayal and lies.
dan friesen
He's obviously talking about Millie.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
Well, I think he's also including all of the former employees who've written...
dan friesen
Josh Owens.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Rob Jacobson.
jordan holmes
I think he's very clearly thinking that these people are not telling the truth about him.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He thinks that they're backstabbers.
He has to think that publicly.
jordan holmes
How do we keep getting...
These types of people at Infowars.
dan friesen
It's a mystery.
jordan holmes
There's so many of those types of people.
dan friesen
It almost appears that there is an institutional problem with how the business is run.
jordan holmes
That's possible.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, Alex gets off the topic of Millie and her documentary, and he's talking about how, like, hey, man, I generally hold back.
From calling out the globalists by name?
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
But God told me to stop that.
alex jones
I know the most effective thing I do is calling different globalists out by name and putting messages directly out to them.
unidentified
In their minds.
alex jones
And at a subconscious level, I hold back because that's the one time you can really piss them off and they go ahead and have you killed.
jordan holmes
Read legally.
alex jones
I'm afraid of dying.
I just don't want to do suicidal things.
Suicide by globalists, and so literally the Holy Spirit holds me back from it.
jordan holmes
Literally.
alex jones
The Holy Spirit has told me to go ahead and attack.
jordan holmes
Literally the Holy Spirit.
alex jones
And here's the issue.
After years of holding back, I've been holding back, ladies and gentlemen, the real oratory skills and the real analysis and the will of God this morning told me.
unidentified
You've been sandbagging this whole time?
alex jones
And so I'm just putting everybody on notice.
It starts today.
I'm not holding back anything anymore.
I'm gonna...
It's not my will, it's God's will.
God's told me to really step it up and not pull back out of not wanting to be arrogant or prideful.
dan friesen
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
unidentified
Dan?
dan friesen
That's a bummer.
jordan holmes
I did not realize that this was sandbagging Alex.
I didn't know that 25 years into this, Alex has another gear?
dan friesen
Yeah, oh yeah.
jordan holmes
He never even mentioned the other gear before.
dan friesen
I've been in first for 20 years, wait till I put this thing in third.
jordan holmes
I've been holding back.
dan friesen
Look, hey, I know that I spent the last 20 years screaming at the top of my lungs into a bullhorn about how we're about to die and the globalists are going to put us in a FEMA camp, but I was only going about three-quarters speed.
Maybe half speed at that point.
jordan holmes
When you're this fast, it seems like everybody's going so slow that you've got to slow down.
dan friesen
That's so ridiculous.
I just can't.
I find that offensive.
And he says that he's going to, like...
Call out these globalists by name.
jordan holmes
By name.
dan friesen
No names come up.
jordan holmes
Never.
dan friesen
Nothing.
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
The next couple days, he yells about Bill Gates more.
jordan holmes
Oh, come on.
He's calling them out by name.
unidentified
Please.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Is he using his enhanced oratory skills after this?
dan friesen
Well, no.
It sounds almost the same, if not worse.
Okay.
But Infowars is going to the next level.
alex jones
If I try not to hurt people, and if I try to hold back, it's just not going to flow.
It's going to probably have some fits and starts, but I'm just going to let them have it.
And it's like a pressure, you know, that millisecond of bomb detonates starting to build up right now.
And I just want the listeners and viewers to know the InfoWars is about to go next level.
Because the whole thing is going next level, and the enemy is going next level.
And so I've been holding back because, again, I'm dialed in.
Man, I can just, like, man, it's like, wow.
I mean, it's like a storm that hadn't got there yet.
You see it blowing in across the water, and then you start seeing the trees start moving, and then when it's actually there, you know, and the windows are breaking, it's like, man, I know what's coming.
dan friesen
I think that Alex fired his lawyer or something, maybe.
That has the feeling of, like, hey, you know, when he says stuff like...
I hold back out of fear of getting people hurt.
All I think of is all the times he's been sued for getting people hurt.
And when he says he's going to stop holding back, that just leads me to think, I'm going to start fucking behaving like I always used to with a complete reckless abandon for hurting private citizens.
I don't know what else he could be talking about.
He doesn't start naming...
Cool globalists who are behind everything.
Right.
All I think is like, hey guys, hey, I'll tell you something.
Shit's going to get even sloppier.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
Look, it just doesn't flow when I have to hold back and think about things that could get me in legal trouble.
So I've got to go full speed ahead.
My lawyers have assured me.
That all of the lawsuits that I've got pending and are not going away are going to bankrupt me.
So if I get sued again, who cares?
jordan holmes
I literally have nothing to lose.
Why am I acting like I have something to lose?
dan friesen
I am unsuable.
I am on borrowed time from a financial standpoint.
jordan holmes
I've been moving money around.
Actually, no, I'm not.
And I've never met Willie Weaver before.
Never.
But...
I think now is a good time to remember that we gotta go next level, Dan.
That's what we've been doing.
We've been holding back.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's time to go next level.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Gotta really go next level by talking more shit.
jordan holmes
I think next level would just include picking on more obscure people like Patrick Berge.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Just being like, I'm just a dick to all kinds of people.
dan friesen
The next level, here's what it's going to be.
It's going to be a flame war between me, a weirdo, and Millie.
There's going to be a three-way flame war going on.
jordan holmes
This is our new Tupac Biggie, I'm pretty sure.
dan friesen
Next level.
jordan holmes
That's what's going to happen here.
And Suge Knight's going to take them both out.
dan friesen
The 17th is not great.
It's a really boring day.
A lot of treading water.
That's it in terms of him talking about Millie's situation.
And so we get into the 18th, and I heard this at the beginning of the show, and I'm like, dude, fucking take the day off.
alex jones
It's on days like these that you really understand how transitory and short life is.
This morning I had T-boned.
And I'm lucky to not be seriously hurt.
I think I had a little bit of a concussion.
But I'm glad the other guy and his dog that ran into me is okay.
I think it was both our faults.
But it is good to be here with you today.
I'll just leave it at that.
dan friesen
This is the next level.
unidentified
I'm going to come to work with a concussion.
jordan holmes
I think he learned the wrong lesson from the movie Whiplash.
I don't think he got that one.
dan friesen
Man, I think, like, just don't come in.
It could be dangerous.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Go to the doctor.
jordan holmes
I think I have a mild concussion is not something you say on air.
dan friesen
Right as you're starting a broadcast.
Like, my mental faculties might be disordered a little bit due to the T-boning that happened earlier.
I heard that and I was like, that's not good.
jordan holmes
If a T-boning is both your faults, that means it's mainly Alex's fault.
dan friesen
Probably.
But the night before, Roger withdrew his...
His appeal.
jordan holmes
Yes, which had nothing to do with the imminently released.
dan friesen
Certainly not.
But Alex realized that, like, I think that might be why he had to come in, despite the possible minor concussion.
Because, like, you gotta spin it.
That's not good for everything.
alex jones
Alright, I got up early this morning and saw that Roger Stone had not slept last night.
He just texted me at like 6am.
The article that's at stonecoldtruth.com.
It's also at infowars.com.
Why I decided to withdraw the appeal of my unjust conviction in the Mueller witch hunt.
Now, we all know that he could never get a fair hearing.
But when I actually read the lengthy article that he stayed up all night to write...
jordan holmes
You said lengthy, which means you didn't read it.
alex jones
It's better than Roger Stone.
I'm not trying to minimize Roger Stone.
I'm saying...
I'd forgotten what they've done to General Flynn, what they've done to Stone.
How rigged it's all, man.
dan friesen
You didn't forget anything.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
I don't think Alex read this.
He has Roger on, and it's just a really boring interview.
But Roger put out this article, and it's basically just like, I'm dropping this because, hey, my appeal won't be fair either.
jordan holmes
That's good.
That's good.
I like that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, a lot of freedom fighters are really recognized for in the face of indefeatable odds.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
They were like, not worth it.
It's too much effort.
I'm just, you know.
dan friesen
Look, shit's rigged.
And no, I'm not giving refunds.
To quote Nelson Mandela.
jordan holmes
That's exactly what he said.
unidentified
What an asshole!
dan friesen
It's those kinds of things that make Roger like really a brazen, funny asshole.
Like the fact that he can fleece these people this hard.
jordan holmes
With no consequences.
dan friesen
It's pretty remarkable.
jordan holmes
It is.
Once you find your niche, man, you can really ride it out.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Roger comes in and one of the things that I noticed.
And I don't want to make a big deal out of it because it could just be a thing where Roger's tired.
Sure.
But he seems not interested at all.
There is a very weird vibe between him and Alex that's frosty.
It's not a good vibe.
jordan holmes
Hey, how about think about Final Cut when you give your employees hundreds of thousands of dollars, you idiot.
How dare you put my name in the streets like this?
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, I know he's not happy about that.
But Alex separated from Millie, so Roger should be happy about that.
Yeah, I don't know.
Like I said, I don't want to make a bigger deal out of it than just the appearance of it, but it's not a good interview.
There were a couple points where I was like, is Roger Eden?
Is he trying to flip it on Alex?
I don't know.
I think it's just in my head.
We've got a lot of issues going on right now about the post office.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
A lot of people are pretty concerned about Trump's very clear overtures towards attacking the post office.
And Alex has a way to spin this, which actually makes kind of like attacks on the post office are good, maybe?
alex jones
Folks, I'll play it next hour.
I'm not kidding.
Trump's stealing mailboxes now.
They're trying to get Democrats to fetishize the mailboxes and the mail-in ballots.
As the secret weapon, they're hyping up the post office so that Democrats who are usually lazy drug addicts will go out and get the ballots and fill in Granny's name.
I think that's what this is really all about.
dan friesen
That's probably what it's all about.
Not protecting a very vital service that allows this country to operate.
unidentified
Whether rain or sleet or hail or bad junk, we're going to get this mail delivered, guys.
dan friesen
I mean, like...
On a really basic level, the notion of how much widespread damage would be done by a less capable post office is...
I think even alarmist takes on it don't really do it justice.
jordan holmes
It's astonishing.
dan friesen
There's so much that goes on via mail that you don't even think about.
How about just medications?
Sure.
I mean, that's one gigantic tendril of it.
Yeah.
It's...
jordan holmes
No, it requires prosecutions and jail time.
That's it.
dan friesen
But the fact that Alex is trying to put a bright spin on this and be like, they're just trying to fetishize the post office and the mailboxes.
unidentified
Like, eh.
dan friesen
Whatever, Alex.
jordan holmes
Fetishize the mailboxes.
dan friesen
Because all Democrats are lazy drug addicts.
jordan holmes
Well, of course.
dan friesen
So Alex goes to calls.
He takes some calls.
And one guy has a theory about Alex's car accident from that morning.
alex jones
We're going to the order the calls are received.
Rabbi Wolfe in California, welcome to the Airwaves.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Thank you, Alex.
I wanted to mention to you that there are parallels between the 2016 and the 2020 election, namely the fact that you were T-boned this morning and that Roger Stone was T-boned.
during that election, but he didn't mention it this morning.
And, you know, I know you mentioned about the Gatorade, but there's nothing that you could have done to prevent yourself from being...
dan friesen
Real quick, the Gatorade is Alex got hit because he looked down and grabbed his Gatorade.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
unidentified
This morning.
And the fact that you look down actually saved your life because you would have been hit on the driver's side.
And you should call on Yahweh.
And ask him in the name of Yeshua Hamashiach to put a protective ring around you and your family because you don't know how much danger you're in because of the Shadowgate film.
alex jones
Well, sir, I know this.
I haven't had many wrecks.
dan friesen
But that's like...
I don't think that Alex wanted the sentence to end that way.
I don't think that, oh, my life's in danger because of this dumb film starring a guy I hate.
jordan holmes
The one that I'm firing my non-employee over.
dan friesen
Alex, you have no idea what the devil is going to do to you for Shadowgate.
jordan holmes
Call upon Yahweh, buddy.
Buddy, call upon Yahweh.
dan friesen
So Alex has Dr. Mercola on.
He has a guest, Dr. Mercola.
Mercola, who's a big anti-vaxxer wacky dude.
Big supplement guy.
He's a disaster.
They just basically do a bunch of COVID denialism and stuff.
I don't care.
We're not going to listen to a ton of it.
But I do want to give Mercola some props.
This dude is...
Really good.
He puts the pro in promotion.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dr joseph mercola
Further into that, because I know we have limited time, I just want to remind people about StopCovidCold.com and get the information about vitamin E. Pass it around because you've got such an army of people.
dan friesen
You can make such a big difference.
jordan holmes
People are listening.
unidentified
Just go StopCovidCold.com.
jordan holmes
Take the test.
unidentified
Read it and implement it.
But more importantly, be part of the army.
jordan holmes
Spread the message to individuals like the churches.
dr joseph mercola
That have large members of black individuals in their congregation or at nursing homes to get this message out to those people.
Hopefully, I know next month, Alex, you're going to be in Joe Rogan's podcast, his premier podcast on Spotify, so congratulations for that.
I'm sure it's going to have like 20 million views at a minimum.
I think you had $15 million the last time you were on, but hopefully you can share that with Joe, because I think Joe has a perspective that he's a little more pro-vaccine, and because of my position on vaccines, he does not want me on his show.
unidentified
So if you can share that stuff with COVID-COVID, that would be great.
dan friesen
Hey, so Alex, congratulations on being a guest on Joe Rogan's podcast in the future.
Can you help promote my shit on there?
Because Joe won't talk to me.
jordan holmes
No, it'd be great!
dan friesen
Joe knows that I'm nuts, so he won't have me on.
jordan holmes
Well, there's that.
dan friesen
But Alex, you're just the fun kind of nuts, so he'll have you on.
We'll see if Alex is a guest in a month.
I wouldn't be too surprised by that, but I would be very surprised.
If, uh, he ends up, uh, promoting someone else's shit.
jordan holmes
I would be very, very surprised if Alex is like, listen, I'm gonna take my time to make someone else money.
That doesn't sound right.
dan friesen
No, probably not.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
That's like, uh, that, uh, yeah, that's that same vibe that you have when you get, like, you get booked on a show and your friends are like, get me on that show.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
I don't book that show.
jordan holmes
100%.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Uh, so anyway, also, Dr. Mirko, uh, may be a little bit, uh, uh, Not up to date on Alex's Shadowgate situation.
unidentified
Congratulations.
dr joseph mercola
I know one of you reporters put together Surveillance Gate.
unidentified
That was a really brilliant documentary.
And I had a chance to watch it this weekend.
dan friesen
Yeah, Mercola?
Did you?
She's fucking fired.
jordan holmes
Two things.
One, no you didn't.
It's called Shadowgate, not Surveillance Gate.
You lying piece of shit.
And two, If you had, you would know.
We're angry at each other!
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Didn't go great for me, Mercola.
jordan holmes
Ooh, got caught in a lie.
Thought you would be innocuous.
dan friesen
He rambles for a bit, so Alex doesn't even have to respond to that.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
So that's good for both of them.
So the 18th, also not all that great.
Boring interview with Roger.
Boring interview with Dr. Mercola.
Right.
unidentified
Snooze.
dan friesen
Gotcha.
So we come in on the 19th.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And now what's happened on the previous night on Tuesday was that Laura Loomer won her primary in Florida's 21st, I believe.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And Alex is thrilled.
alex jones
The good news is there's a mass awakening happening.
Resistance is intensifying, not just here, but around the world.
And Laura Loomer, they said, had no chance of winning the primary.
Had more votes, basically, than the other two candidates combined.
Unbelievable.
President tweeted out, great going, Laura.
You have a great chance against a Pelosi puppet.
dan friesen
So we talked about Laura Loomer quite a bit on this podcast.
Too much.
I think that my feelings about this should be pretty clear.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah?
dan friesen
For one, I think that it's an embarrassment for any political party that she could make it through a primary system or any sort of primary.
I think it's a real indictment.
Yeah, they're doing great.
I think that with the right messaging...
It would be tremendously easy.
jordan holmes
You would hope, Dan.
Dan, you would hope.
You would hope that if I was in a debate and I was just like, my candidate wants to kill all Muslims.
dan friesen
Well, she's locked down the anti-Muslim vote.
jordan holmes
Do we need to have a debate after that?
She wants to genocide.
I want no genocide.
I feel like the rational people pick me.
dan friesen
I think that there's a long...
Track record of her doing incredibly embarrassing things.
Appearances on Infowars could be alone.
That would be enough, probably.
I think that any competent general election strategy will be effective against what she has to bring, which is really just yelling publicity stunts, antagonism.
Bigotry.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That kind of thing.
jordan holmes
No, the Democrats haven't figured out how to deal with that yet.
dan friesen
They certainly haven't.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But that's why I said a competent approach.
jordan holmes
So we're fucked.
dan friesen
I don't think so.
I mean, look, I'm really bad at predicting things, but I don't see her winning the primary as a guarantee that she's going to win the general.
jordan holmes
This isn't like Alexandria winning the primary.
dan friesen
No.
Or that one other, I can't remember her name now, that Q&A.
It's not the same thing.
jordan holmes
It's at least a competitive election.
dan friesen
In the general.
Everything that I know about Laura Loomer, I just don't think it's going to work.
I think you tweeted something that's like, she's going to commit fraud.
I would not be too surprised.
jordan holmes
That was the day before Steve Bannon got arrested for fraud.
dan friesen
All these people...
jordan holmes
They're fraudsters!
They commit fraud!
dan friesen
Yeah, Roger solicited donations for his appeal that is now dropped.
jordan holmes
It was never going to happen!
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
We all knew it was never going to happen.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Millie was raising funds after she got arrested with the presumption that some sort of a...
Something to do with her dangerous documentary.
Like, over $170,000 donated to this GoFundMe.
unidentified
Fraud.
dan friesen
Right.
Steve Bannon, fraud.
jordan holmes
They were all committing fraud all the time.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Why else would you become a right-wing grifter, Dan?
dan friesen
Yeah.
I do think that she'll probably run afoul of something.
jordan holmes
For sure.
dan friesen
And if not, like, a really simple campaign of, like, look at this person.
jordan holmes
Look!
unidentified
Look!
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Look!
dan friesen
She used to date a guy named Baked Alaska.
Anyway, Laura Loomer comes on the show, and she talks about how great her celebration party was.
jordan holmes
Was Alex invited?
dan friesen
He couldn't make it, but what a guest list.
unidentified
You know, I wish you could have been there to witness it, because we truly did turn cancel culture on its head last night.
Everybody who had been canceled from myself, Miley Annapolis, Roger Stone, Gavin McGinnis, and even Faith Goldie, they were all there on stage.
And really, it was just a big middle finger to the cancel culture movement and all these tech tyrants in Silicon Valley who have been trying to silence conservatives.
dan friesen
That's fun.
I mean, if that's your definition of conservative, then...
You think less of conservatives than I do.
jordan holmes
Here's my ad.
I'm running against Laura.
Here's my ad.
dan friesen
Faith Goldie.
unidentified
30 seconds of her saying that.
jordan holmes
With a picture of her at the celebration party just being like, see, see, see.
dan friesen
See?
jordan holmes
See?
Just me standing in front of it.
Just look!
dan friesen
And one of the things that I think is really important to keep in mind is that...
Laura Loomer has no interest in governing.
She has no interest in being in politics for the sake of...
jordan holmes
She has no idea what they do.
dan friesen
Right.
She doesn't want to read bills and argue points, minutiae within the halls of Congress.
She doesn't want to do that.
She doesn't give a fuck about those things.
jordan holmes
They're going to put her on the Appropriations Committee, Dan.
She's going to have real power.
dan friesen
Right.
This is really what this is all about.
unidentified
Full-handedly, as the Republican nominee for Florida's 21st District, I have presented on a silver platter to the DOJ a perfect criminal case.
To prosecute Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg for committing perjury because now they are actually guilty of committing election interference because they are suppressing the Republican nominee in the president's home district of Florida 21. And they testified under oath, Alex, you and I both know, they testified under oath and said that they are not committing political election interference and that they do not censor political speech.
dan friesen
First of all...
That statement was from the past, so I don't know if that's perjury here, but this is basically what the game was.
I think we've talked about this even in the past.
It's essentially, on some level, a desperate plea to get back on Twitter, and failing that, what you end up with is...
Her getting into the race and winning the primary, she gets to grandstand and make this whole point that this is criminal action that you suppress conservatives.
It's just a facilitation and continuation of the online culture war nonsense.
That's her bread and butter.
That's the lane that she's in.
Handcuffing herself to doors.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, Dan.
She wants to get into the specifics of a farming bill, Dan.
She really wants to make sure that people know what zoning laws are available in the 21st District in Florida.
She is going to go to bat for her constituents, of which she knows some.
Get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
She was crying on Alex's show because she doesn't have social media.
jordan holmes
And that's who I want representing me in Congress, man.
dan friesen
Like, can you, just, oh my god, it's beautiful.
jordan holmes
It's beautiful.
dan friesen
Now, the flip side of this is that now that she is actually in the general, there will be a lot of those, like, really nefarious shitheads, like a Gavin or a Milo or a Roger, floating around because of the potential that they can have to use her as a conduit for their shit.
jordan holmes
Andrew Morant wrote a really great piece on her in The New Yorker, because he was embedded with her for a while, and, oh boy, that's who I want representing me in Congress, Dan!
Oh boy.
dan friesen
So, Laura's on for a bit, and Alex keeps being like, okay, once you get done with your strategy sessions, come back and let us know what we can do.
So Alex is going full speed on the Laura train.
And then he's got another guest, which takes up most of the rest of the show.
And it was just like, I don't care anymore.
I just don't care.
alex jones
David Icke.
jordan holmes
Oh, fuck off.
alex jones
He's going to be joining us coming up at the bottom of the hour.
He has a new graphic novel out that I've seen that is unbelievable.
dan friesen
It's not really a graphic novel.
I don't understand what it is.
Apparently there's like a book, but the pages have videos or something.
I don't know.
Maybe it's a digital book.
I don't understand.
jordan holmes
Love it.
dan friesen
I don't care.
Alex doesn't really fully explain it all that well.
jordan holmes
Roger Stone isn't mentioned, so we are happy to promote it.
alex jones
I don't know.
dan friesen
David Icke is on.
I don't care.
I don't care.
jordan holmes
No, come on.
David Icke.
He's got important things to say.
dan friesen
So he's going to be on in a little bit, but Alex has to get down to business on how he knows what he knows.
He's not a psychic.
He's not a psychic.
jordan holmes
He said he was a psychic.
dan friesen
Well, he has said he's a psychic, but he's not just...
Look, the information that he has is from reading, alright?
alex jones
But you know, I'm not like John the Revelator on the Isle of Patmos having a vision, because God sent an angel down.
No, I started reading publications put out by the John Birch Society and others.
jordan holmes
So you are a Bircher.
alex jones
And I didn't believe what I was reading, so I went to the library and actually got books by Helmut Schmidt, the German Chancellor.
Or Carol Quigley, the top advisor to Georgetown to the Clintons.
Or Zbigniew Brzezinski, the founder of the Trilateral Commissioner.
And I went and got the books, and I read them, where they admitted all of it.
And I said, man, this is horrible.
dan friesen
Here's Alex admitting that he has not read Carol Quigley.
jordan holmes
No, he's read them all.
alex jones
It's available at Infowarsstore.com, and then Tragedy and Hope, that's, I don't know, 1,100 pages or so.
That I see on William F. Jasper's bookshelf on Skype, if you're watching us on TV, where the Georgetown political science professor, Bill Clinton's mentor, who he thanked in a State of the Union, admits they control liberalism, fake conservatism, fascism, and the Trilateral Commission and all of it is meant to bring in world corporate government.
And that it's only meant to look like there's the illusion of choice in politics.
I'm paraphrasing quotes.
This book, and I've actually read almost the whole thing.
When I say that, I probably read 800 pages of it over the years because, I mean, I skip over some of the more little factoid inside baseball stuff.
dan friesen
So Alex didn't get this thing like John the Revelator, like some sort of a vision.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
No, he read John Birch Society of Materials, didn't believe it, confirmed it by reading all these books, but maybe he didn't read those books.
Maybe he just sort of skimmed those books and read the John Birch Society materials and then knows that you sound like a lunatic if you're a John Bircher in 2020 and so pretends that, like, I didn't believe them at face value.
jordan holmes
Uh-uh, I would never.
dan friesen
No, you're just a fucking John Bircher.
But worse, actually.
I would say probably worse.
Because you blend the John Birch stuff with all kinds of Christian identity nonsense and then you end up with Alex.
jordan holmes
I think a library is the only place where Alex's skin would actually start to boil when he walks into it.
You know, not like a holy ground or unsanctified ground.
dan friesen
You know what would be interesting as an experiment?
Ban Alex from libraries and see if he cares.
He loves being banned from things.
jordan holmes
Don't tell him he's banned.
dan friesen
No, no, you have to tell him because he has to fight against it.
jordan holmes
See, no, here's my pitch.
Don't tell him.
Alright?
And see if he finds out.
Because if he finds out naturally, oh shit, he can go crazy.
dan friesen
Here's an interesting way to do this.
I don't know how we would logistically do what you're talking about, but here's what we could do.
We could tell Alex that we've got a bunch of witches together, and we've cast a spell that makes him unable to read.
Then, to prove us wrong, he would have to read things.
jordan holmes
And we would see how that goes.
dan friesen
This might be...
The best reverse psychology we can do.
jordan holmes
I think we can do this.
I think we got this one.
dan friesen
Now, Alex has not read Carol Quigley's Tragedy and Hope because he hasn't.
It's very long.
Yeah, I understand.
jordan holmes
He didn't read Roger's thing.
He said it was lengthy.
dan friesen
It's not lengthy.
I'm not...
Begrudging Alex for not reading Tragedy and Hope?
That is his choice.
I am begrudging him for building a worldview on it and not reading it.
That is my complaint.
jordan holmes
That's kind of an issue.
dan friesen
So he's not read that, but one of the things that I think he's been getting into lately might be Space Ghost.
jordan holmes
Sure.
david icke
You know, all that control...
And yet they have to take my videos down.
They have to take my YouTube channel down.
alex jones
Oh, I totally agree with you that they're all about suppressing and controlling humans because we're more advanced to them.
So it's basically like a Space Ghost episode where the centipede or the praying mantis creature is trying to figure out how to control American television and can't even figure it out.
I mean, they've got the power, but they don't have any of the knowledge.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
That is Old Kentucky Shark and he has been there.
dan friesen
No, I don't know if he's talking about Space Ghost Coast to Coast or the original Space Ghost.
I don't know what he's talking about.
Are you talking about the original Hanna-Barbera?
Because if so, that's a very bizarre reference.
If you're talking about Space Ghost Coast to Coast...
jordan holmes
That is also a bizarre reference.
dan friesen
Yeah, no matter what, that's very weird.
And it doesn't land.
jordan holmes
No, that's not good.
dan friesen
So we have one last clip here, because I don't care about listening to David Icke talk about his evil as a possession kind of thing.
jordan holmes
I would prefer if they started talking about Space Ghost.
dan friesen
I would like that too.
jordan holmes
That'd be great.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Alex says this...
He's like, hey, you know, you used to work at the BBC.
There's a bunch of demon people there.
I went to some Satan things when I was younger.
Hey, Alex talks about how he can pick out demons.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And this really disturbed me.
alex jones
Did you ever see what I've seen?
They do it on TV, but I saw it some growing up in Dallas with real Satanists when they make that Satanic Joker face and a human can't copy it.
Only the demon shining through can.
When you look at the Colbert faces or the...
Faces made by AOC or the faces made by Hillary when she's all sharking out.
Or Newsom makes them, but not completely.
They make this demon face.
Have you ever seen that in person?
david icke
Well, I've seen many faces do many strange things.
unidentified
LAUGHTER LAUGHTER That's a great save.
dan friesen
That's a good non-answer right there.
jordan holmes
That's about as good as you can do.
dan friesen
Oh, undoubtedly.
Because, like, Alex is asking a stupid question.
And also, David Icke doesn't want to be like, you know what?
I used to talk about reptilian shapeshifters a lot.
jordan holmes
I'm not going to get into that.
dan friesen
Yeah, let's not get into the specifics about people with slit eyes and what have you.
No, Alex is just trying to rationalize why he can call whoever he wants a demon and be like, oh, there's a face that only demons can make.
Humans can't copy it.
jordan holmes
Andy Daly's character on Bananas for Bonanza, who is also a vampire hunter, and he's just like, I kill all these vampires.
How do you know it's a vampire?
Ah, you just know it's a vampire.
That's supposed to be a joke.
dan friesen
They say things like, oh, what, me?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
That's supposed to be a joke.
dan friesen
It is a joke for him.
For Alex, no.
Hey, you know, other people that he might think are demonic.
Don Knotts.
jordan holmes
I've seen a lot of faces on a lot of people, Dan.
dan friesen
Trying to think of other, like, classic people who had, like, sort of...
Very emotive faces.
jordan holmes
Of course, there's Jim Carrey.
dan friesen
Oh my god, classic demon.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Jim Carrey's definitely a demon.
Robin Williams, God rest his soul, if he could, but he's a demon, unfortunately.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a lot of folks with pretty elastic features.
jordan holmes
How about people who do voices?
dan friesen
Oh, there's some voices that only demons can make.
jordan holmes
That would have to be true, too, right?
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
That would have to be true.
Man of a thousand voices is a demon.
dan friesen
Have you ever seen somebody with purple hair?
Humans cannot dye their hair purple.
jordan holmes
Demons.
dan friesen
It is a sign of demons.
jordan holmes
When you're born a demon, it grows purple.
You have to dye it away.
Yep.
That's just true.
dan friesen
It read it in the white papers.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
So, I mean, look, I don't think that this episode has a lot going on for it because...
We've entered back into Infowars.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, by this point, the weekend was fucking exciting as hell.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then it just fell apart.
Alex decided to reject what was going on with Millie.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then...
Behind the scenes, clearly, must have been communicating with her to end the working relationship by Wednesday, but he's not bringing it up on the show and pretending like Shadowgate doesn't exist.
Like, Tuesday and Wednesday's show, it's all Loomer, all Roger defense for his, like, oh, he was right to drop his appeal.
jordan holmes
Well, it's important for him to drop his appeal.
dan friesen
And, of course, a stupid interview with Mercola.
Right.
It just feels like boring as regular Infowars, and quite frankly, I found that to be disappointing.
I found it to be an insult.
You were really cooking with gas when you were being mad about Patrick Berge.
jordan holmes
That's kind of what I'm saying!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm really disappointed on his decision to punt.
dan friesen
But I think he has to, because...
Getting into the mud with these people is not a good idea.
jordan holmes
No, it's a bad idea for him.
He's making the right decision.
I'm disappointed because my life would be infinitely better if he was like, this is where we die.
This hill is what's going down.
I am fighting Millie Weaver.
Tooth and claw.
dan friesen
Either Bergy goes down or I do.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
I want him to get into a flame war with a petty dude.
I want that.
dan friesen
But I think that Alex probably got the exact same vibe that most of these other people, like a Matt Gaetz or Dan Bongino did.
They're like, this fucking dude is no good.
This is gonna be a mess.
I don't want to be involved with this guy.
So, you...
jordan holmes
I look at you and I think I'm going to do a dime.
That's what I look at you thinking.
If I talk to you, I'm going to do a dime.
dan friesen
You don't get the game we're playing.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
You don't get the game we're playing and that's going to fuck everything up.
Like Roger, he's a shady dude, but he gets it.
He knows what we're doing.
He can play.
jordan holmes
No, it's like Michael Madsen in Pulp Fiction, where it's like, everybody here, we're all in it for the heist, and you're a psychopath wildcard, and I don't want nothing to do with you chopping ears off.
That's not even going to help us steal shit!
dan friesen
Yeah, and what's going to happen is you are going to, I don't know, you're going to think it's some sort of integrity moment or whatever, and it's going to fuck up our whole game if I let you too close.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Here's what I would say.
You gotta know when to drop your appeal.
And it's the day before it's revealed that you did even worse shit.
And Patrick Berkey doesn't know when to drop his appeal.
He's gonna think, no, we actually can win this thing.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Not how this game is played.
dan friesen
Alex probably doesn't want to be involved with any ideologues or people who are really deeply committed to something.
Because he's running scams.
These people are running propaganda grifts.
And there are some things that you can feel passionate about, but the grifts gotta come first.
And for people like him, someone like Patrick Berge, who's clearly a zealot for his own pet conspiracy, he is a danger to the primary grift that you're running.
And so you gotta...
And I think that's even more...
I think the Roger thing is probably more...
Of cover for that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, probably.
dan friesen
Because the stuff about Roger in the documentary, while funny, isn't damning.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
It's innocuous, I thought.
dan friesen
For the most part, yeah.
I mean, the extent of it that could be taken as bad is like, Roger didn't realize that his association with the Trump campaign would be used against the Trump.
It's not like Roger actively did things according to this documentary.
jordan holmes
And Roger knows he's committed so many more crimes than could be possibly imagined in this documentary.
Are you going to come at him with this?
dan friesen
Nah.
So, I mean, I'm just bored by Alex returning to standard-ass Alex and doing interviews with David Icke and all this shit.
And it's like, come on, man.
You started the week like this.
alex jones
And Shadowgate is...
The gate of all gates.
dan friesen
What happened?
jordan holmes
It's been a quick weekend.
It's been a fast weekend.
I don't like the meme, the life comes at you fast.
But goddamn, sometimes it works!
dan friesen
Yeah, just over the span of a couple days, we went from Shadowgate is the gate of all gates to Millie Weaver's fucking fired.
I am not talking about it.
I'm going back to treading water talking about the devil and COVID's hoax.
Fuck it.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
It's weird.
This has been a disruptive week, but it does also go to show that Alex can revert back to this normalcy pretty fast.
jordan holmes
So disappointing.
This should have been a whole fucking...
This should have been dragged out for months.
dan friesen
It would have been beautiful.
If they had any good pro-wrestling bookers, they probably would have teased this out a little bit.
But anyway, we'll be back on Monday with something else entirely.
We'll see what happens.
But before we end this episode, Jordan, let's hear some talk from the people.
unidentified
Hey, boys.
This is former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura.
I just wanted to call and say that I know you've been giving my friend Alex a bit of a hard time, but...
Overall, I think you've been doing a really good job here.
As you know, I am a big fan of interpreting and looking at real documents, so to listen to Dan just break down the reality of the document situation on a regular basis has been just a real treat to hear.
Sometimes I find myself wishing that Alex would...
Go back to his roots of exposing the true conspiracies that are out there, and not so much just relying on xenophobia.
But, unfortunately, people change.
And, well, I just want to say again, Dan, Jordan, you've been doing a really great job.
Thanks a bunch.
Again.
Jesse Ventura approves knowledge fights.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
That's pretty good.
dan friesen
What a get.
jordan holmes
That was a pretty good one.
dan friesen
I mean, the governor, the mind, the body, Jesse Ventura, he's calling in and he's liking our show.
Suck on that, Alex.
jordan holmes
That's good stuff.
dan friesen
Next thing you know, Willie Nelson's going to be calling in.
jordan holmes
I like good impressions.
dan friesen
That wasn't an impression.
That was Jesse Ventura.
jordan holmes
I apologize.
Apropos of nothing.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I like the Jesse Ventura impression because the in for it is the arr.
Like the way he says arr.
Just like that.
That's how you get into it.
dan friesen
Or you could just say Gorilla Monsoon.
unidentified
Gorilla Monsoon.
dan friesen
That does help.
Let's take another call.
unidentified
Hey, Dan and Jordan.
This is Eric from Cincinnati.
On your Wednesday episode, you guys were talking about oral traditions and how you thought that you should start one.
And I was kind of surprised that you didn't...
Pick up on the fact that that's kind of what you've been doing for the last few years.
I mean, what is a podcast if not an oral tradition?
You were talking about how you can't really have guests on the show because there's, you know, so much that they would have to have listened to and there's not a quick way to get caught up.
And I mean, I think that that's just perfectly evidence of the fact that this is actually an oral tradition, right?
Leo Zagami and Lionel and Mark Richards are not written down.
You have to have listened to the hundreds of hours of stories to actually get them.
So, what I'm saying is congratulations, guys.
Good work on the royal tradition.
And keep up the good work in general.
See ya.
dan friesen
That was awesome.
jordan holmes
We're a church, Dan!
dan friesen
That's such a good perspective.
That is a good point.
I hadn't even looked at things that way, but yeah, there is kind of an oral tradition.
jordan holmes
No, you're not wrong.
No, that's very insightful.
It is.
dan friesen
The only thing that's different about this than classic oral tradition is that, in classical sense, oral tradition has to do with the same stories being told over and over again.
jordan holmes
In order to preserve them.
dan friesen
Well, to preserve them, and then they change organically over the telling of it.
unidentified
It's an infinite game of telephone.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
So, like, if we were telling the same story about Leo Zagami over and over again...
But I guess that's the...
jordan holmes
That is kind of a...
We're expanding Leo Zagami's backstory at all times.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, I guess so.
jordan holmes
I mean, he committed 9-11, Dan.
He's an important historical character.
dan friesen
By himself.
jordan holmes
By himself.
dan friesen
With no other help.
So let's take another call.
unidentified
All right.
Hi, Dan and Jordan.
I hope this is Dan and Jordan.
You don't have, like, a message.
It's just a random, what we have.
All right.
jordan holmes
I'm not mad.
We do this every time.
unidentified
Anyway, I'm calling.
I love your show because I'm a college student studying violent extremism, and you guys make it really palatable to learn about conspiracy theories.
But the reason I'm calling is because my name is Wrigley.
And I thought that Jordan, being a Cubs fan, would find that really funny.
He loves it.
I have never actually been to Wrigley Field.
I'm not a big baseball fan, but I'm named after the field.
My parents like baseball, so I hope to go someday.
That's about it.
Oh yeah, I'm going to be like an Alex Jones caller, give myself a shameless plug.
You guys were talking about Andrew Wakefield a couple of days ago, and I run an autism advocacy Instagram account.
At Autistic Academic on Instagram.
So if anybody wants to learn more about that, you can check me out there, because you guys didn't really talk about it too much on that episode.
And it's something I'm very passionate about.
I love the show so much.
Thank you.
dan friesen
Thanks, Wrigley!
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much, Wrigley.
Go to Wrigley Field and go to her Instagram page.
I want to learn more about that stuff.
dan friesen
I've been to Wrigley Field, but never sober.
jordan holmes
I never recommended anyone go sober.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know how much I would have enjoyed it if I was sober.
jordan holmes
You just don't understand the beauty of the field, the smell of the grass.
dan friesen
Aesthetically, I enjoyed it when I came in.
I guess I was sober when I came in.
But I also went with comedian Bobby Buds, and I was making fun of him a lot because I think the Cubs song sucks.
jordan holmes
Sure.
No, no, no.
You're not wrong.
dan friesen
I was like, ah, this is all stupid.
It was a playoff game.
jordan holmes
I don't remember what year, but I got tanked.
dan friesen
I got really, really drunk.
And by the end of it, I was singing Go Cubs.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
Now you understand.
Now you get it.
That is how everyone watches at Wrigley.
dan friesen
I got really drunk, and you get caught up in the feeling of being the crowd.
And I experienced that at Wrigley in a way that I haven't really experienced it.
I mean, to be fair, I haven't gone to a ton of sporting events as an adult.
But, like, that feeling was very powerful.
jordan holmes
A playoff game in Wrigley Field is one of the most powerful experiences that you can experience.
dan friesen
People are really into it.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
They're really into it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So let's take another call.
unidentified
All right.
Hey, Dan.
Hey, Jordan.
I've been a fan for a long time, and I just thought you'd be interested to know the clip or the out-of-context drop that got me into your podcast.
It is Alex describing himself as the piranha of liberty, mashing his teeth together against the globalist.
So, do more out-of-context drops.
They're hilarious.
Love the show, and keep doing what you're doing.
dan friesen
That is a good point.
jordan holmes
That is a good point.
dan friesen
I need to rededicate myself to the out-of-context drops.
jordan holmes
There was a good time where we had the out-of-context drops every episode.
dan friesen
I think Alex used to say more out-of-context funny things.
jordan holmes
More non-sequiturism.
dan friesen
I'm the piranha of liberty.
Mashing my tiny little teeth on the global list.
jordan holmes
That is pretty good.
dan friesen
All right, see another call here.
unidentified
Hey, Dan and Jordan, this is Emily.
jordan holmes
I'm just calling to say that I love your show.
Thank you, long-time listener, first-time caller.
unidentified
A couple quick things.
First of all, I don't think you plug your merchandise enough.
I just want to let you know, I bought one of your shirts about a month ago.
I cut it up into little strips.
I put those strips into pills.
I've been taking those pills every day.
And I'm going to tell you that I think that I've gotten stronger significantly.
My neck has gotten bigger, but in a good way.
And, you know, I'm sleeping between 4 to 12 hours a night.
It's fantastic.
I can't recommend it enough.
And then, secondly, I have another really important question.
Have you listened to Taylor Swift's new album, and what do you think?
All right, that's it.
Thanks.
Have a great day, guys.
jordan holmes
I really appreciate the show.
unidentified
Bye.
dan friesen
Hey, thanks, Emily.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much, Emily.
dan friesen
To the question, I don't know.
I have not listened to the new Taylor Swift album.
And I'll be honest, Taylor Swift is a sort of blind spot for me in terms of like a chick pop.
And I don't know why.
I don't dislike her at all.
I certainly...
There was a stretch where I really liked Blank Space and Bad Blood was pretty good.
I liked a couple of those singles, but for some reason I never ended up listening to the albums in the same way that Kesha or Carly Rae Jepsen got me.
jordan holmes
I've never listened to a Taylor Swift song.
dan friesen
No?
unidentified
Never.
dan friesen
Have you been to a store?
jordan holmes
Well, I guess I've never purposefully listened to a Taylor Swift song.
And I don't have anything against her or anything like that.
The problem was I was introduced to her as the punchline to a joke.
dan friesen
You mean the Kanye?
jordan holmes
No, no, no, not that.
Oh, no, I guess that is where I was introduced to her.
Well, I guess I was on Kanye's side, so...
dan friesen
Oh, you were wrong.
jordan holmes
No, I was totally right.
I was totally right.
Beyonce deserved that.
dan friesen
Wow.
You can agree that maybe Beyonce should have won and still not be on his side.
unidentified
What do you want?
jordan holmes
What do you want?
A boring musical award show?
dan friesen
I want people treating each other with respect.
jordan holmes
Fair.
I get that.
I mean, it's a real bummer.
It is an exciting moment in her life and Kanye ruined it.
But that's even more exciting for me.
dan friesen
For you.
jordan holmes
It should be for her, too.
dan friesen
I think it would probably be pretty embarrassing.
jordan holmes
If I was having any kind of party and Kanye ruined it, that's a great story.
dan friesen
She had some good songs early on.
A bit of that earlier career was a bit more country-tinged.
But I remember enjoying stuff like, she wears short skirts, I wear t-shirts.
jordan holmes
I just don't want to wade into a critical opinion, and then I don't want to turn into the guy who's like, actually, Taylor Swift isn't any good.
I don't want to do that.
I just washed my hands of it.
dan friesen
I'm sure it's really good pop, and I will listen to the new album, and I'll get back to the people.
I'm not entirely sure.
And I appreciate Emily bringing it up, because I bet there's a lot of really good stuff in her catalog that I've just missed.
unidentified
I'm sure.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't know why I haven't listened to her.
jordan holmes
No, whenever I don't have to have a take on it, 20 years from now, I'm sure I'll love it.
dan friesen
Sure.
All right, let's get one more call in.
unidentified
Hey, this is Ashley Moore calling for the Tat Guys.
My wife has a big Info Warriors tattoo on her forehead that I'm looking to see if we can get removed.
So call me back if you know anything about tattoo removal.
Thank you.
dan friesen
You shouldn't have gotten this phone number.
jordan holmes
We're not Tat Guys.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, we are tat guys, but we don't know anything about tat removal.
jordan holmes
We're not tat removal guys.
dan friesen
No, I apologize for any confusion.
jordan holmes
That's very good.
We've had a couple of good ones.
We've had a couple of good, nice little sardonic phone calls.
unidentified
I'm a fan.
dan friesen
So anyway, Jordan, we'll be back.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we're on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
Is that knowledgefight?
And I go to BetJordan.
dan friesen
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook.
If you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area.
To help out people doing God's work, especially if you're in Chicago right now.
dan friesen
Yeah, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
I'm the Piranha of Liberty.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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