#456: July 9-11, 2020
Today, Dan and Jordan discuss the end of the last week on The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex wrestles with the "Wayfair Conspiracy" and celebrates Roger Stone's clemency by interviewing Mancow.
Today, Dan and Jordan discuss the end of the last week on The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex wrestles with the "Wayfair Conspiracy" and celebrates Roger Stone's clemency by interviewing Mancow.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | ||
Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
Knowledge fight. | ||
Need money. | ||
Andy in Kansas. | ||
Andy in Kansas. | ||
Stop it. | ||
Andy in Kansas. | ||
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Andy in Kansas. | |
It's time to pray. | ||
Andy in Kansas. | ||
You're on the air. | ||
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I love you. | |
Hey, everybody! | ||
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
I'm Dan. | ||
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I'm Jordan. | |
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
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Jordan. | |
Jordan. | ||
Quick question for you. | ||
What's your bright spot today? | ||
Well, my bright spot. | ||
Why don't you go first? | ||
Because I got a little bit of a segment for my bright spot. | ||
Okay. | ||
All right. | ||
My bright spot is my partner and I played tennis for the first time in like 10 months. | ||
I know you guys love tennis. | ||
We love tennis. | ||
We thought that because the park next to us where we played tennis was completely torn down. | ||
Yeah. | ||
We thought that the tennis courts were gone, too. | ||
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Oh. | |
But it turns out there was an opening, and we could have gone for the past, like, four months. | ||
Oh. | ||
So it's real disappointing, but it was great to play tennis. | ||
It was good to get out there. | ||
You know what? | ||
Maybe the time away from it justifies the, like, how good it feels to go back justifies the time away. | ||
Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
Bright side guy today. | ||
I like it. | ||
I like it. | ||
So my bright spot, Jordan. | ||
Yes, sir. | ||
You gotta look in the mailbag. | ||
Okay. | ||
Zip! | ||
Checking in the mailbag for my bright spot. | ||
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Okay. | |
First of all, I'd like to say... | ||
Thank you to Stephen. | ||
Stephen D. who sent a gift card for Diamond Gosset Jeans. | ||
Did not come in the mail over email, but still very appreciated. | ||
I have not ordered them yet, the random-sized jeans, but I will keep you updated on that. | ||
We're going to need to take bets on the size that shows up. | ||
How funny is this? | ||
A couple years ago, we found a commercial on Alex's show for some stupid jeans that are anti-NAFTA or whatever. | ||
And now here we are. | ||
Yeah, we live kind of a ridiculous life, don't we? | ||
Yeah, but it's very nice. | ||
And I appreciate it, Stephen. | ||
Thank you so much. | ||
Very much, thank you. | ||
And then second, Jordan, I'd like to direct your attention at this. | ||
Holy shit, that is a knife. | ||
That's a knife. | ||
That is a knife. | ||
You are holding that threateningly. | ||
This is a knife. | ||
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All right, there you go. | |
Crocodile Dundee shit. | ||
Holy shit, that is a knife! | ||
Yeah, got a cool handcrafted knife in the mail. | ||
Also got this little letter. | ||
Dan and Jordan, thank you so much for the work you guys do. | ||
I honestly appreciate it. | ||
The show gives me facts to use against my crazy right-wing family. | ||
Also, it's great waking up three times a week getting excited for something. | ||
If you guys ever find yourself in Columbus, parentheses, hashtag Flavortown, hell yeah, hit me up if you want to go eat. | ||
Forge something or even ride horses. | ||
Take care. | ||
Policy wonk, Chris. | ||
That's very nice of you, Chris. | ||
That's really, really fucking cool. | ||
That knife is amazing. | ||
Also, thank you for sending a note with that because just mailing a knife to somebody has a very different connotation. | ||
It would maybe be startling under other circumstances. | ||
Knife and a horse head show up at your door. | ||
So, Chris has a thing, a page, a thing over on Etsy called Folk Vanguard's Forge. | ||
Folk Vanguard's Forge. | ||
I'm going to spell it. | ||
F-O-L-K-V-A-N-G-R apostrophe S is Forge. | ||
F-O-R-G-E. | ||
Folk Vanguard's Forge. | ||
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Sure. | |
Vingers. | ||
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Yeah. | |
I don't know. | ||
I'm bad at pronouncing things. | ||
But I went over and I actually looked at a lot of the designs he has up on there. | ||
And there's a lot of really cool looking stuff. | ||
He handcrafts knives and various... | ||
Cutlery for kitchens. | ||
And from what I understand, actually, if I understand this note correctly, there is another one that's going to come. | ||
So you and I will each get one of these knives. | ||
And that will lead to our ultimate showdown, as was always meant to be. | ||
Yes, perhaps. | ||
So thank you so much, Chris. | ||
Really appreciate it. | ||
And I can't wait for that other knife to come so we can do battle. | ||
Yes, that'll be great. | ||
You are holding that very threateningly. | ||
And yet also incompetently. | ||
I feel like I could take that away from you pretty easily. | ||
Not a chance. | ||
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Okay, fair. | |
From now on, the rest of the podcast will be with us, Knives Out. | ||
Knives Out. | ||
Well, you can't say that. | ||
That's copyrighted. | ||
Oh, fair enough. | ||
Great movie. | ||
I've not seen it. | ||
I'm just aware that it exists. | ||
Don't know anything about it, just I've heard a name. | ||
Hey, it's great. | ||
So, Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to go over. | ||
We've got... | ||
Any big news? | ||
I will say that this weekend has been a lot of fun because I have been just coming off the end of like a lot of work. | ||
Sure. | ||
Got air conditioning units put in the windows that took a lot more effort out of me than I would have hoped it would have. | ||
Yeah, naturally. | ||
You helped me put together a bed frame. | ||
Great. | ||
Looks great. | ||
So I got a lot of that stuff going on. | ||
My life is feeling pretty good. | ||
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It's happening. | |
I feel very close to sort of adulting. | ||
Turning up to an adult. | ||
Friday night rolls around. | ||
Yes. | ||
I'm getting ready to go to bed in my bed that's on a frame for the first time in 15 years. | ||
Incredible. | ||
Right. | ||
No news could take you off that pedestal, right? | ||
Twitter. | ||
Roger Stone. | ||
Sentence commuted. | ||
Great. | ||
Not unexpected. | ||
No. | ||
I believe I said he would never spend a day in prison. | ||
Yeah, yeah. | ||
And I kind of, like, in my heart of hearts, in my deep down, I didn't think he was probably going to go to prison, but I also thought it would be pretty wild for Trump to do it. | ||
Yeah, yeah. | ||
To commute his sentence or pardon him or... | ||
Give him clemency. | ||
And so I thought there was a chance that that would be too much. | ||
But it shows that you shouldn't really second guess those sorts of things. | ||
And it makes total sense when you really think about it to string it out a bit. | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
For ratings. | ||
I find it all hilarious. | ||
That Trump made him beg for so long makes me laugh very hard. | ||
I mean, who knows what the actual dynamic is, but that's certainly how it looks. | ||
Yeah, it does. | ||
So, yeah, a lot of people were suggesting, you know, I got some messages on Twitter and around to people were saying, hey, emergency episode, Roger got pardoned. | ||
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Sure, sure. | |
And my sense of it was, I need to wait. | ||
Because I think Alex is going to, you know, Saturday. | ||
He's probably going to do an emergency episode. | ||
So let's settle down on this. | ||
He's the emergency guy. | ||
We do our show. | ||
Yeah, but sometimes it's fun to throw out an emergency episode. | ||
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That's true. | |
So I decided to wait for Monday when we would have his Saturday work together. | ||
Because the announcement was on Friday, and so Saturday he has all day. | ||
Of course. | ||
You should be able to put together quite a pageant and a celebration. | ||
A victory lap unheard of. | ||
Yes. | ||
And so we'll see what happens with that. | ||
Today our episode is actually going to be covering the period of the 9th, July 9th through July 11th, 2020. | ||
I'm Dan. | ||
This is 2020. | ||
God damn it. | ||
And yeah, so the 9th, not much. | ||
Not going to talk about much on that episode. | ||
10th. | ||
This is the day of the commuting. | ||
The day of the clemency. | ||
And so we're going to talk about that. | ||
And then the 11th is Saturday, where Alex came into studio, did a special two-hour, fuck yeah, emergency episode. | ||
He played all of Nipsey Hussle's victory lap for an hour. | ||
That was it. | ||
It was less that and more... | ||
I don't know, man. | ||
I feel really weird about this because I know that there's probably going to be some people tuning in that are going to be like... | ||
Oh, there's going to be something special from us today. | ||
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I don't know if there is. | |
Why would you expect Alex to bring it now? | ||
I don't want to... | ||
No, no, no. | ||
What happens is going to be a great podcast for us. | ||
Oh, okay, okay. | ||
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I don't... | |
Okay, if you're expecting some kind of like... | ||
The narrative of, like, Roger Stone has been vindicated, shows up on a white horse on InfoWars to tell everyone to kiss his ass, that's not going to happen. | ||
Really? | ||
Yes. | ||
It's gotta happen, though. | ||
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Come on! | |
But you really expect that that's going to be the thing that happens on this Saturday show. | ||
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Absolutely! | |
I want to make sure that no one thinks that I'm trying to tease that to keep you listening to the end. | ||
This episode could be a little bit long. | ||
There's a lot of bullshit that happens. | ||
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Yeah, I believe that. | |
So, before we get down to business on that, though, Jordan, we're going to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show. | ||
So, first, Chase T. Thank you so much. | ||
You're now a policy wonk. | ||
I'm a policy wonk. | ||
Thanks, Chase. | ||
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Thank you. | |
Next, Jordan's giggle. | ||
That's you. | ||
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That's me. | |
Thank you so much. | ||
You're now a policy wonk. | ||
I'm a policy wonk. | ||
Thank you, Jordan's giggle. | ||
You're not going to do the giggle? | ||
You know what? | ||
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I don't even know what giggle they're talking about. | |
Like the Pillsbury Doughboy. | ||
Alright, thank you. | ||
Next, Trevor. | ||
Thank you so much. | ||
You're now a policy wonk. | ||
I'm a policy wonk. | ||
Thanks, Trevor. | ||
Thanks, Trevor. | ||
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Thank you, MC. | ||
Thank you. | ||
Next, Zach, and then in parentheses, yes, Bill, this is your colleague, Zach. | ||
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You're now a policy wonk. | ||
I'm a policy wonk. | ||
Thanks, Colleen. | ||
And finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on an elevated level. | ||
We appreciate that very much. | ||
So first, David H. Thank you so much. | ||
You are now a technocrat. | ||
And the soil will save us. | ||
Thank you so much. | ||
You are now a technocrat. | ||
I'm a policy wonk. | ||
Crikey, mate. | ||
That's fantastic. | ||
Have yourself a brew. | ||
How's your 401k doing, bro? | ||
All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right? | ||
Let's just get down to business. | ||
We ain't making that money off that heroin. | ||
Why are you pimp so good? | ||
My neck is freakishly large. | ||
I declare Infowar on you! | ||
Thank you so much! | ||
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Yes. | |
Or you can take that generosity, bundle it up real nice, give it underhand pitch. | ||
Underhand pitch? | ||
Underhand pitch. | ||
Okay, alright. | ||
Just casual, recreational softball style. | ||
Just real softball. | ||
Just out of the park with your friends, playing a little pickup game. | ||
Toss it over to a charity in your area that helps people in need. | ||
Gotcha. | ||
So, yeah, Jordan, here we go. | ||
One really quick thing. | ||
I don't have a whole lot to announce about the year of the Seltzer, but I do need to point one thing out, and that is that I did get a message from Bailey, listener Bailey, who pointed out that I may have ranked a single Seltzer twice. | ||
I might have. | ||
Giving them two different ratings? | ||
How far apart? | ||
I don't want to talk about it. | ||
You don't want to talk about real far apart? | ||
Not super far apart. | ||
Not so far apart that it would blow your mind. | ||
15? | ||
Less. | ||
Less than 15? | ||
Okay, that's in the margin of error, I feel. | ||
Look, we're going to pretend this didn't happen. | ||
I've decided, I talked to the commissioners, which is me. | ||
And we decided that the first ranking stands. | ||
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Okay. | |
And so the other one has been evacuated. | ||
Okay, okay. | ||
Is that the right word? | ||
No. | ||
Vacated. | ||
That's it. | ||
Vacated the second scoring. | ||
Thank you for pointing that out, Bailey. | ||
That would have been really humiliating, and I don't want this to get out publicly, although I'm saying it on a podcast. | ||
So, Jordan. | ||
Yes, sir. | ||
Down to business. | ||
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Okay. | |
A lot of it. | ||
Too much business up top. | ||
Too much business? | ||
Too much business really to cover. | ||
I don't even think we can... | ||
No, there's just too much to cover. | ||
I don't even think we can get to it in this segment. | ||
No, probably not. | ||
No. | ||
Let's go off air. | ||
Yeah, let's get it. | ||
I'm going to go to a special report. | ||
So, we start on the 9th, and one of the reasons that I kept this in, as opposed to just focusing entirely on the 11th, is because I think that there's a little bit of a narrative arc to it. | ||
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Okay. | |
And that is that Alex... | ||
He knows that something's probably coming for Roger. | ||
Roger Stone joins us coming up at the bottom of the next hour, and he's got big news. | ||
It's so big that I just think I'm going to let him cover what he wants to cover. | ||
And I'm not even going to give you any preludes or any hints. | ||
But let's just say this, in the next six days before he's scheduled to be sent to prison for a crime he didn't commit as a political prisoner, he's going to work to make this the exclusive first place he comes on. | ||
Now, if he gets pardoned or gets clemency in the next few days at 6 o 'clock at night and I don't answer the phone immediately and if I can't get a crew down here in 20 minutes, we won't get the exclusive. | ||
That's okay. | ||
I just want him to get clemency or pardon. | ||
So I told him just make the first phone call. | ||
We can't get stuff fired up. | ||
Go ahead and go on Fox News or whatever. | ||
So this, to me, sounds like preemptive rationalization. | ||
Translation, he's not going to go on our show first. | ||
He's probably at the point where Tucker will have him on and he knows there's better ratings there. | ||
Now, that's just because I'm going to be drunk at six. | ||
He's so drunk at six that he just can't come into work. | ||
It's his fault, really. | ||
Now, Roger's going to do everything he can to give me the exclusive. | ||
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Whatever. | |
The idea that Roger would have to work hard. | ||
Like, hey, man, I'm gonna put in the time to make a phone call to you. | ||
So that's why it's good that Alex's report about Roger's shit is on Saturday. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Because then it sort of takes away the whole, like, need for the exclusive. | ||
No pressure. | ||
Friday night, you know, he could do that little impromptu press conference. | ||
Sure. | ||
And then, you know, Saturday, roll around in the shit with your buddy. | ||
Absolutely. | ||
Waggle his dick around for a bit. | ||
Oh, also, I will say this. | ||
What's that? | ||
Alex does cover the Wayfair conspiracy. | ||
Oh, of course he does. | ||
I knew it would happen. | ||
On the Saturday show. | ||
I knew it would happen. | ||
So I'll tease that. | ||
Okay. | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
Of course he does. | ||
Yeah, so get ready for that. | ||
God, I hate everyone. | ||
I hate everyone so much. | ||
Alex, it was one of the more interesting things Alex has done in a while, actually. | ||
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Really? | |
His position on it is very, very bizarre. | ||
Frankly, I think they should change the name! | ||
So, on the 9th here, he just starts, you know, talking about... | ||
Whatever. | ||
You know, just his normal shit. | ||
Just filling time, talking about the evils of abortion. | ||
And it just came out, the lawsuits from a decade ago are just now winning, where the FDA was paying across the nation hundreds of thousands of dollars, millions of dollars total, for quote, fresh baby parts with still beating hearts. | ||
Berkeley, in one particular filing that just came out last year, said, we want beating hearts. | ||
And so, they would deliver them a bag. | ||
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Actually, in a box. | |
And they would butcher them right there on the spot. | ||
Just like, I can pick up and order some hot wings or whatever. | ||
Now, where is PETA not caring about all this? | ||
And by the way, if you're new, this is all on record. | ||
Just type in, university ordered. | ||
Beating hearts of babies. | ||
What? | ||
Where is PETA in all this? | ||
I don't know. | ||
So this, unsurprisingly, is a story that Alex is completely lying about. | ||
And generally, I might have just ignored it, but it kind of bothered me how at the end he was just like, you can look it up. | ||
Whenever he says something like that, it's really hard for me to resist taking them up. | ||
It's a straight-up challenge. | ||
This is from that batch of edited videos that were released in 2015 by the Center for Medical Progress, which was that anti-abortion outlet that engaged in Project Veritas-style undercover video propaganda pieces. | ||
I'm starting to think they're not really a center for medical progress. | ||
No medical regress. | ||
What this comes down to is an erroneous claim that's made in that Center for Medical Progress videos, which is then exaggerated and distorted. | ||
The video claims that a procedure that's being done by Stanford University researchers, not Berkeley, this procedure is called a Langendorf perfusion. | ||
They say that it requires a beating heart to be done. | ||
Having established this erroneous piece of information, the video makers then try to demonstrate that heart tissue had been provided to Stanford, which they're able to do. | ||
Which is then used to present as evidence that beating human hearts have been delivered to Stanford. | ||
Sure, great. | ||
I'm fine with it. | ||
On a very basic level, this is really sloppy work. | ||
And in order for the Tree of Logic to follow appropriately, you need for all the pieces to stand up to scrutiny. | ||
If one piece is bad, this whole argument collapses. | ||
So the fact that Langendorf perfusions do not require beating hearts kind of destroys the entire point here. | ||
Everything else could be true. | ||
Namely, that Stanford researchers do this procedure and that they've obtained heart tissue for it. | ||
And the claim, the main claim, that they've been given beating hearts can be false. | ||
You can have all that other stuff be true, and the part that you want to be the point is false. | ||
And as it turns out, the Langendorf perfusions that are done involving human stem cell research don't require a beating heart. | ||
so this whole thing ultimately proves nothing. | ||
The thing to remember here though is that Alex is even lying about the fake thing that he's reporting on. | ||
The stuff about babies arriving at the university and boxes and them butchering the babies, that's just his own fantasies. | ||
That's just the story he wants to tell his audience to scare Sure, sure. | ||
So, it's kind of a hat on a hat of disgusting anti-abortion propaganda here. | ||
Who teaches you how to properly butcher a baby? | ||
You know, like, is that an apprenticeship thing, or do you get that right out of med school? | ||
I don't know. | ||
It's also not at all like ordering wings. | ||
You don't have to butcher the wings. | ||
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Yeah, I mean, it depends on where you're ordering the wings from. | |
I very rarely send you a chicken. | ||
That's a fair point. | ||
You might not be thinking all that straight. | ||
Just like ordering wings. | ||
Sure. | ||
So Alex goes on a little bit more about this sort of topic. | ||
Sure. | ||
Or FDA ordered fresh baby parts. | ||
That just came out last week. | ||
There's thousands of these articles, so that's who they are. | ||
They want to murder you and your family. | ||
That's another thing you said you couldn't look up, so I decided to go ahead and look that up. | ||
This is about a judicial watch scoop, so already. | ||
Already, it's right on target. | ||
They uncovered that the FDA had a contract worth $96,000 between the time of 2012 and 2018 with a company called Advanced Biosciences Resources, where they would be provided with fetal tissue for experiments. | ||
From everything I can tell, this is just about stem cells and there's nothing wrong going on here. | ||
They've uncovered nothing other than something to anger their anti-abortion base. | ||
Hold on, hold on. | ||
Are you saying that the FDA spent such a ridiculous sum of money? | ||
$96,000? | ||
$96,000 of taxpayer money? | ||
That's what we should focus on, Dan. | ||
That's a very small amount for whatever the conspiracy they're trying to spin is. | ||
It doesn't really rise to the level of what they're... | ||
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It's making a conspiracy about your boss's petty cash. | |
If this is an illegal human organ trafficking operation with proceeds up to $95,000, it's like... | ||
I don't think most people would get mixed up with that for that kind of vig, whatever they're taking off the top. | ||
You could infect somebody with COVID and, as we know, get $95,000 easy. | ||
That's what you gotta do. | ||
Anyway, Trump ended these contracts in 2018, but there's no indication that I can find that anyone's doing anything illegal or unethical. | ||
So, I mean, this just seems like blabbering. | ||
Yeah. | ||
So Alex is also in the business of being real denialist about the surge in coronavirus cases. | ||
This is basically he thinks it's all fraud. | ||
So here's some of the headlines. | ||
U.S. corona cases rise above 60,000, setting single-day record for one day. | ||
That's Reuters. | ||
Should read, as testing continues to ramp up to record levels, the number of positives skyrockets and most positives are fraudulent. | ||
I believe the headline that I just read before we started recording was, yesterday Florida had 15,000 positive tests. | ||
So, good, good, good, good. | ||
So, I mostly stuck around on this July 9th for the sake of Roger. | ||
Of course. | ||
I mostly was like, what's Roger going to be doing? | ||
It's the Stone News! | ||
Yeah, yeah. | ||
So, unfortunately, when Alex tries to go to Roger, there's some Skype problems. | ||
Of course. | ||
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All you gotta do is let yourself go! | |
Alright, I'm not normally just gonna sing a song. | ||
We're waiting on Roger Stone. | ||
Having perpetual Skype issues, but he's got big breaking news with us here. | ||
He told me a lot, but we'll see how much he can say about what's going on. | ||
He's just six days out from his imprisonment. | ||
So apparently Alex only sings when there's Skype issues, which means that... | ||
All those other times we've heard him singing. | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
Constantly. | ||
Constantly. | ||
He's just experiencing Skype problems. | ||
Yeah, I believe the years from 2009 to 2015 were entirely Skype problems. | ||
Yeah, I'm pretty sure. | ||
Every single in and out of break, just Skype problems. | ||
So, Roger got kicked off some social media stuff. | ||
And there's a nice spin on that. | ||
Okay. | ||
And he's also got analysis on an unprecedented censorship. | ||
Bolsonaro is under the same attack, saying that his fans aren't allowed to talk about him or post his speeches or material. | ||
Well, now Facebook has done that to Roger Stone on Facebook and Instagram, quote, cracks down on inauthentic activity. | ||
So ahead of his pardon, or ahead of his clemency, or ahead of him having to go to prison, if the president doesn't act... | ||
They are silencing everyone that might cry out against this in another giant authoritarian exercise of evil? | ||
So this is not a case of Facebook just kicking off fans of Roger or Bolsonaro. | ||
In both cases, the company found that employees of Bolsonaro's government and Roger Stone were operating networks of accounts to push coordinated misinformation. | ||
Now, the way that sentence came out of my mouth sounded bad because it sounds like those two networks are connected, and that was not what I was implying. | ||
Bolsonaro and his government has a network that was being used to push false information, as did Roger Stone. | ||
They both have their own unique hybrid bot network that they're using. | ||
Unclear if it was bots necessarily, or like... | ||
Just someone running a bunch of them. | ||
Yeah, a combination of the two. | ||
According to BBC reporting on the matter, quote, Facebook said it had removed 54 accounts, 50 pages and 4 Instagram accounts that it had linked to Mr. Stone. | ||
These pages would pose as a person not connected to Roger and then promote things that he wanted to promote to give the appearance of organic engagement. | ||
Again, from the BBC, quote, In total, those behind the pages spent about $308,000 on Facebook advertising. | ||
And then an editorial note on my part. | ||
Three times what the FDA spent in six years for those contracts. | ||
There is that. | ||
From this piece, the sense you get is that the network that Bolsonaro was running was more focused on political maneuvering, whereas Rogers was mostly geared at self-promotion. | ||
Roger claims that he's going to sue. | ||
So if I had to guess, he's going to yell about his innocence on any platform that'll have him on, he'll use the attention to try and raise money, and then he'll admit that he was running all those pages in about five years in some sort of an interview with Playboy or something. | ||
Well, it's not that big a deal. | ||
Right. | ||
So this is the game. | ||
I'm getting kicked off all the social media because... | ||
Oh, woe is me. | ||
I'm a victim. | ||
Why won't anybody let a white man speak on this very loud radio show? | ||
Now, Roger, his main point has seemed to be... | ||
I'm going to die if I go to prison because of COVID-19. | ||
COVID-19 is going to kill him. | ||
The biggest fear in the world. | ||
Which Alex believes is a hoax and is a hoax, but is going to kill Roger if he goes to prison. | ||
Seems hard to balance those ideas, but they keep trying. | ||
You guilty of thought crime are about to be sentenced to possible death if you believe their whole COVID situation. | ||
And it's true. | ||
Eating prison food, you don't get D3, you don't get zinc. | ||
Also, I mean, who knows what they'll pull on you in prison. | ||
I'd be worried about them, you know, winding up somebody to... | ||
Beat you to death. | ||
See, that should have been the angle the whole time. | ||
Yeah, of course. | ||
The beating you to death or something. | ||
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Yeah. | |
That should have been the whole play. | ||
This whole COVID thing is not going to work with the narratives that you have, although I do appreciate Alex trying there with the, like, prison food's bad. | ||
Yeah, no, I did like the D, you don't get your vitamins, you don't get your zinc. | ||
By the way, I sell zinc, but anyways, moving on to you. | ||
Yeah, that is an okay way to try to make this work, but it's just foolish. | ||
But that's the kind of angle that Roger needs, because it's the kind of thing that people who don't like him would still kind of have to begrudgingly be like, yeah, you are a non-violent criminal, you're not really a threat to anybody, you probably should be in house arrest if there is a real danger to your health. | ||
He knows that that's a really difficult argument to rebut, even if you don't like him. | ||
That's why he was employing it, but it's stupid for Alex to join in with it. | ||
Right. | ||
I would argue, though, that he had to employ it because Stone was also, though, talking to the judge. | ||
So the judge can listen to the COVID argument. | ||
The judge isn't going to listen to Roger saying, like... | ||
Hey, they might kill me in here because I know too much. | ||
Well, yeah. | ||
No, no, no. | ||
Look, I understand Roger's actions entirely. | ||
Totally, totally. | ||
I don't understand Alex's. | ||
He's trying to do too many things at the same time. | ||
It just starts to make no sense. | ||
So when I said that the BBC was reporting that Roger had these accounts and Facebook said they did, you should notice that I did not say that Roger did this. | ||
Roger allegedly did this. | ||
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Okay. | |
Because I don't want to get sued. | ||
Fine. | ||
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Here's the other point. | |
If you're a journalist, stay with the Wall Street Journal. | ||
Perfect example. | ||
And you report this as a fact without saying allegedly or may have, I'm coming after you too. | ||
Roger, you are absolutely right. | ||
Again, that's why when I say we're all Roger Stone. | ||
They're coming after everybody. | ||
I could play CNN clips, MSNBC clips, New York Times articles where they say, after we get Trump and Roger Stone and Alex Jones and all of Trump's friends, we're going to punish all these people at every level. | ||
We're going to go after millions of people. | ||
I mean, these are terrorists. | ||
These are authoritarians. | ||
These are the real McCoy. | ||
These are the enemy. | ||
Roger, are you still there? | ||
Well, that ended on a good note with Roger. | ||
His internet was cut off today. | ||
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Probably an accident. | |
He's paid his bill. | ||
He was on the phone. | ||
He wasn't on Skype because they couldn't get the Skype to connect. | ||
So I don't know what that has to do with his internet. | ||
Now they also cannot get the phone to work. | ||
Right. | ||
This is not a good operation. | ||
But it ended on a good note. | ||
Roger threatening to sue people. | ||
It ended on a good note. | ||
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You gotta end on a high note. | |
It was a pretty short interview. | ||
And that is really the high point of it is Roger's phone cutting out. | ||
And yeah, he allegedly had all these bots and shit because I don't want to get sued. | ||
Sure. | ||
Yeah, I like that. | ||
You know, it's kind of like the old Roger. | ||
Threatening people. | ||
Yeah! | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah! | ||
You like it! | ||
It almost feels like at this point he knows he's cool. | ||
Oh, yeah, he's free. | ||
Yeah, yeah. | ||
Although, this is still Thursday, so he shouldn't know this at this point. | ||
Yeah, you kind of get the sense that he's got the information. | ||
He's going on in fours and threatening to sue people who report on his bot farm. | ||
Alleged bot farm. | ||
The tone of his previous interviews that we've covered have been very much, Please, God, please give me a pardon! | ||
There's still a bit of really overplaying the religiousness in my newfound... | ||
As soon as I decided to love God, everything turned around. | ||
Yeah, there's still some of that, but he does not say, he does not discuss praying to Trump this time. | ||
Now, if we know one thing from our time doing this show. | ||
What's that? | ||
Alex is totally fine when tech doesn't work. | ||
Oh yeah, no. | ||
He's not mad at the crew, Dan. | ||
He's not mad at the crew. | ||
He's the kind of guy who's like, he's the guy you want with you when there's trouble. | ||
Because he keeps his head about him. | ||
Oh, of course. | ||
He's the kind of guy you want behind the wheel when you hit some ice. | ||
He's the kind of guy who knows that you just tap on the brick. | ||
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Keeps calm and knows how to keep everyone safe. | |
Doesn't freak out. | ||
Crisis management is his name. | ||
Roger, you there? | ||
I've learned when to tap out, guys. | ||
I don't want to tap out. | ||
I have my instincts. | ||
I'm ready to tap out. | ||
Roger's not there. | ||
The most amateur thing on talk radio, Howard Stern, that's what he calls. | ||
He has prank callers call a radio station. | ||
And then act like they're a guest or a caller and then go, hello, hello, and then say a little something and then not be there. | ||
And then say a little, I have a pet peeve and it's bad. | ||
Roger's cell phone's out. | ||
And so I'm not going to do this thing where I go back and forth and back and forth and back and forth and back. | ||
I'm not doing it! | ||
Anyways, the ongoing technical difficulties are fun. | ||
They are fun, and I refuse to wallow in them. | ||
Like, I'm gonna go out there. | ||
I'm leaving. | ||
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I refuse to be part of this crap. | |
I'm telling you, man, because it's not that. | ||
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It's doing it over and over and over and over and over and over again. | |
The failure, the criminals everywhere, the devil doctors killing all the old people and the liars like Bill Gates. | ||
We all just sit here while they crap all over us. | ||
Okay, there is the UN... | ||
Well, Sacha Baron Cohen says I'm going to want to talk about this so I don't have me arrested, but I'm going to talk about it. | ||
In fact, get Cohen queued up if we're able to do that. | ||
Great crew. | ||
I'm not mad at him. | ||
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I'm just... | |
It's little amateur pet peeve things I have. | ||
We're done with that body. | ||
We're done. | ||
We're done. | ||
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It's over. | |
We're done. | ||
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Done. | |
Ever again. | ||
Ever again. | ||
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All right! | |
Yeah! | ||
Woo. | ||
Holy shit. | ||
That was a rollercoaster. | ||
That was fantastic. | ||
You know, here's my favorite part about this. | ||
Which was your favorite part? | ||
First of all, all of it. | ||
Yeah, fantastic. | ||
Fantastic. | ||
Just art. | ||
Yeah. | ||
My favorite part for sure, though, is that it begins, the freak out, with him talking about how it's amateurish. | ||
On radio shows, when you hear someone say, hello, hello, and they can't hear each other, you know, it doesn't sync up quite right. | ||
And then he does two minutes screaming about how this keeps happening on his show. | ||
That's the most amateurish thing. | ||
Keeps over and over and over and over and over and over again. | ||
You know what's amateur? | ||
Not being able to roll with the fucking punches. | ||
Constantly freaking out whenever you have, like, tech difficulties at your million-dollar studio. | ||
Yeah, that's amateurish. | ||
Yeah, you think I've never done... | ||
How many shows have I been on in the middle of fucking nowhere where all of a sudden the microphone cuts out and I just gotta toss it aside and continue doing the goddamn show? | ||
I don't stop and scream at the bartender. | ||
No, you're a bad practitioner of your craft if you are unable to... | ||
And granted, if you're really early on in doing stand-up, you probably shouldn't be expected to be able to handle that. | ||
No, no, no, absolutely not. | ||
But let's say you've been doing it for, I don't know, 20-something years on a professional... | ||
You probably should be able to. | ||
Let's say the lights go out. | ||
That's a challenge, but you should be able to handle it. | ||
Mike goes off. | ||
You should be able to handle it. | ||
You should not be completely fucked up by it. | ||
Now, let's say you're doing a month of shows at a certain place. | ||
Yeah. | ||
And the mic keeps going out. | ||
Again and again and again and again and again. | ||
Now let's say the 15th time it happens, you still can't handle it. | ||
And somehow you haven't been able to talk to the manager or the guy behind the tech booth and figure out what the fuck is going on with the mic going out. | ||
You can't fix it. | ||
It's impossible to fix. | ||
I would argue you're a bad performer. | ||
You're a bad comedian. | ||
True. | ||
You're not caring. | ||
Yeah, you're failing on a whole lot of levels. | ||
And you're lazy. | ||
The other word I would use is amateurish. | ||
But damn it, do I love those freakouts. | ||
Although that one did give me chills a little bit. | ||
It felt a little realer at points. | ||
Just of the real intense anger. | ||
There's a level of repetition that we get to that stops being performative and starts being a representation of psychosis. | ||
Yeah, but it's like, again and again and again and again and again. | ||
You're like, okay, I get you. | ||
But you do it 30 more times and you're like, you need me. | ||
Maybe, or it's filling time. | ||
Could be. | ||
Might have realized, well... | ||
I got nothing else to do. | ||
I got 20 seconds to break. | ||
I could just say, done, done, done, over and over again. | ||
We'll get there. | ||
We'll get to the break. | ||
We'll get to the break. | ||
That's true. | ||
Time continues. | ||
The rest of the show does not matter. | ||
So we jump back in on the 10th here, and Alex is getting ready for the 2020 election. | ||
And basically what we've got in front of us is two possibilities. | ||
One, Trump wins, or Trump wins, but it looks like Biden's won because there's a coup. | ||
115. | ||
Planet rotations until we are in the middle of what will be a giant contested election, the cherry on top, the detonator to take this country into hot civil war. | ||
Inside the Pentagon, everyone is being approached and being asked, will you support a coup against President Trump? | ||
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So that's going to be the theme of this episode for the most part. | ||
There's a coup, which we learned about already on Alex's show because Joe Biden had to go talk shit on the Daily Show. | ||
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Oh! | |
He's going to coup him! | ||
Unveil the coup plans. | ||
Hey, I think Trump's insane and he might try and stay in power. | ||
It's obviously him saying he's going to take over. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
That's a coup. | ||
Yep. | ||
So, in order to defend his argument, Alex has a couple of articles that he's using as, like, the big tent poles here. | ||
And they don't really work, but he tries. | ||
Well, now I have the Council on Foreign Relations, America's Democratic Unraveling. | ||
On page 50, on page 5, it says, the armed forces will be needed to remove Trump. | ||
That if he contest the election in any way, he will be removed by the U.S. military. | ||
Naturally, Alex has not read this article in the Foreign Affairs, and honestly, probably he's just hoping no one in his audience does either. | ||
It's a pretty savage laying out of the various ways that our country's structure and government have been usurped by Trump and the right wing's drive for power, and it's honestly pretty fair-handed. | ||
The central thesis of this article is that erosion of norms and the structure of our society is a gradual process, but the collapse comes very fast. | ||
It's very well articulated in this passage. | ||
Quote, As James Robinson and I argue in our recent book, The Narrow Corridor... | ||
Democratic institutions restrain elected leaders by enabling a delicate balance of oversight by different branches of government, the legislature, and the judiciary, and political action by regular people, whether in the form of voting in elections or exerting pressure via protest. | ||
But democratic institutions rest on norms, compromise, cooperation, respect for truth, and are bolstered by an active, self-confident citizenry and a free press. | ||
When democratic values come under attack and the press and civil society are neutralized, the institutional safeguards lose their power. | ||
Under such conditions, the transgressions of those in power go unpunished or become normalized. | ||
The gradual erosion of checks and balances thus gives way to sudden institutional collapse. | ||
That's a pretty fair assessment of, you know. | ||
Yeah. | ||
So this article argues that Trump has been playing a very authoritarian playbook since he began his presidency. | ||
Quote, By dismissing concerns about Russian interference in the US election, refusing to disclose his tax returns, openly pursuing policies that serve his family's financial interests, vilifying Hispanic and Muslim Americans, propagating conspiracy theories, and relentlessly lying to the press, the president has left practically no norm of democratic governance unviolated. | ||
These actions not only weaken the institutions that are supposed to restrain the president, but also further polarize the US electorate. | ||
Creating a constituency that unconditionally supports Trump out of fear that the Democrats will take power. | ||
The author, Darren Asmoglu, is a professor of economics at MIT that discusses how nothing is certain and that things aren't too far gone for us to course correct, but that probably is going to be, if it does happen, it's going to be a long, painful process, and it's probably impossible if Trump is re-elected. | ||
His consistent pattern of behaving as a singular, dictatorish leader who's not constrained by any of the normal things that make our system function would continue. | ||
And Esmoglu is of the opinion that in that situation, there's really nothing that could stop the administration and everything from collapsing. | ||
Yeah, of course not. | ||
A fair point is made that, quote, So that's a nice recognition of the fact that it's not an easy fix, even if. | ||
The article has nothing to do with the contested election or the military being used to remove Trump. | ||
Alex is saying those things as a clear indication that he didn't read this article or he has no interest in discussing what it actually says. | ||
The line Alex is taking out of context comes from a paragraph that's discussing how Trump is not at this point completely free from all institutional constraints. | ||
There are some judges who are pushing back on his clearly illegal executive orders, for example. | ||
The article goes on to say, quote, The armed forces may be able to restrain him as well, as evidenced by the forceful rebuke he received from former Defense Secretary James Mattis after threatening to deploy the U.S. military and National Guard against protesters. | ||
But it would be a sad day if Americans had to depend on the military to save their democracy. | ||
And the trend is toward fewer, not more, checks on the President's power. | ||
If the last remaining restraints give way, the fall towards autocracy will be swift. | ||
I don't know. | ||
That's not saying the same thing Alex is claiming it is. | ||
Anyway, Alex is a liar, and this is a good but depressing article, particularly in the context of Trump just commuting Roger Stone's sentence for crimes he almost certainly carried out to advance the interests of Trump himself. | ||
Yeah, I'm really disappointed in Trump there, because it seems like he made a grave miscalculation in not cozying up to the military. | ||
You know, like from day one. | ||
I think he's been trying. | ||
Yeah, but he's just been doing a really shitty job of it. | ||
It's almost like his inherent personality flaws keep him from really taking advantage of what a demagogue could do in his situation. | ||
Like, this would be a dictatorship, you know, like three years ago if you had done it right. | ||
It's not hard. | ||
Like, look at the Council of Foreign Relations list of things that Trump is doing to erode the norms. | ||
That all happened before he got elected. | ||
What's the list that he didn't do during the campaign? | ||
You're talking about from this article? | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
Where it was like Russian interference, demonizing his family, and all of that stuff happened before. | ||
You could have taken over a year in. | ||
Yeah, to be fair, he didn't openly pursue policies that served his financial interests when he wasn't in a position to do that. | ||
Becoming president is a policy that openly pursues his financial interests. | ||
Becoming president isn't a policy. | ||
Oh, fine. | ||
Fine. | ||
I'll give him that. | ||
Fine. | ||
He just broke the law on day one of his election. | ||
I'm just saying, you can't use the president. | ||
To enrich yourself when you don't have the presidency. | ||
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You can use the illusion of the possible future presidency. | |
Fair. | ||
That's not an abuse of power. | ||
Running for president to sell books is something that a lot of people do. | ||
It's a very normal thing. | ||
Which is also an issue we should talk about. | ||
I don't disagree. | ||
I think it's fucked up. | ||
But that's not the same as using the... | ||
That's not corruption of the office. | ||
That's corruption of the process, I guess. | ||
Look, let's not get too deep into the weeds. | ||
Okay. | ||
I agree with you for the most part, but I also disagree slightly. | ||
And we'll leave it there for now, because Alex has another article about how there's a coup and all that shit. | ||
Here's a new one out of the Stanford Advocate. | ||
Anyone saying that he will not leave will be arrested. | ||
Trump could lose and not leave, but cabinet members who try to help face prison. | ||
So this is actually an article that Alex found in the Stamford Advocate, not Stanford, and it's actually just a reposting of an article from the Washington Post. | ||
Sure. | ||
This article is really just a legal analysis about how unlikely it is that Trump will refuse to step down if he loses in November. | ||
The reason for that is because in order for him to pull that off, he would need to persuade the entire executive branch to do so as well, when doing so puts them in a very serious legal jeopardy. | ||
The point of the piece is well summed up by the closing paragraph. | ||
Quote, Nothing can, with total certainty, ensure a normal transition of power from as abnormal a president as Donald Trump. | ||
But it's vital to recognize that if Trump tries to retain power illegitimately, he'll need help from his cabinet. | ||
Yeah, sure. | ||
It would be... | ||
A lot of people. | ||
Oh, they would face so terrifying legal consequences. | ||
Oh, no. | ||
Not legal consequences. | ||
There's no way to get around legal consequences, Dan. | ||
I understand what you're saying. | ||
It would be a gigantic thing you'd need a lot of people to join in with. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Which, I mean, it's not inconceivable, but it's not as big. | ||
The issue here is that whether or not Trump would be able to successfully do that. | ||
Even gesturing towards it is a problem. | ||
Yes. | ||
And even if he doesn't have an executive branch to fulfill the duties that you need to run a government, even if he still said, I'm the legitimate president, that causes just as big of a problem. | ||
Oh yeah, totally. | ||
So I don't know. | ||
Anyway, this is something that Alex should support, the point of this article, because Alex is supposed to love America and the Constitution and all those things. | ||
You're supposed to like the Constitution. | ||
Yep. | ||
It's not like this article is even taking Trump losing as a certainty. | ||
Like, it explicitly says, quote, if Trump legitimately wins on election day, he wins. | ||
Yeah, the end. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Of America. | ||
So, Alex gets into talking about COVID, and of course, he now has proof. | ||
Bombshell proof. | ||
Oh, Bolsonaro got infected, so it's bombshell proof that the... | ||
No? | ||
Bombshell proof that it is not an epidemic, and that we're all cool now or something. | ||
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I have absolute smoking gun on top of smoking gun, on top of red flag, on top of hand and cookie jar, on top of just absolute ridiculousness that COVID-19 is a giant fraud at every level, every facet, every angle, designed for planetary takeover, AI takeover, depopulation, you name it. | ||
And now, on the CDC's own website, They say that COVID-19 is not an epidemic. | ||
And that actually it is a nosediving death curve. | ||
And that's why every headline you see says, America's entered a black hole of COVID. | ||
America failed. | ||
America sucks. | ||
America opened too early. | ||
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Unbelievable. | ||
Unbelievable. | ||
This is just some bullshit that Alex is taking from an article on Tom Papert's blog, National File. | ||
Great. | ||
The National File article asserts that, quote, according to the CDC reports from March to May, COVID-19 deaths had a sudden spike and then immediately proceeded to drop. | ||
And if the drop continues... | ||
The viral disease will no longer be considered an epidemic according to international standards. | ||
That's great! | ||
Well then, I'm glad to know that May was a good month for us, and I'm sure things will continue on, and that, uh... | ||
Even if you just take that as true, then Alex is still misreporting this story. | ||
He's saying that the CDC says that this is currently not an epidemic, whereas the story he's covering is talking about a possible threshold that might be reached in the future, which is bad work. | ||
The link that the national file provides is to a page on the CDC's website reflecting data for the week ending on July 4th. | ||
On the very top of the page, in the Key Updates section, they say, quote, The percentage of specimens testing positive for SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, decreased slightly from last week. | ||
However, this past week included a holiday, which could impact both testing and reporting. | ||
Mortality attributed to COVID-19 decreased compared to last week and is currently at the epidemic threshold, but will likely increase as additional death certificates are processed. | ||
They're just making stuff up by misrepresenting things that are on this CDC update page while not offering the proper context that's on that page, which is called lying. | ||
There are other things that are on this page too that should worry people. | ||
I mean... | ||
There's a slight total decrease of national numbers for percentages of tests coming back positive, but there's a couple of regions in the country that are really pushing those numbers up. | ||
The South Central region, which covers Arkansas, Louisiana, New Mexico, Oklahoma, and Texas, were showing positive test rates of 16.8%. | ||
Also, the Southeastern region, covering Kentucky, Tennessee, Mississippi, Georgia, North and South Carolina, and Florida, was reflecting a 14.1% positive rate. | ||
These dudes are just cherry-picking whatever sort of out-of-context line they can find to help make their arguments, but the totality of the information on the very pages they link to as sources refute the things that they're saying. | ||
So, I don't know. | ||
I don't know. | ||
I mean, I don't know what to say other than these people need to be stopped. | ||
You can't say this on air. | ||
Yeah. | ||
You can't do it. | ||
I mean, I get... | ||
Look, Constitution's already out the window. | ||
We lost that a while back. | ||
Interesting. | ||
You and I have a little slight disagreement about that, I suppose. | ||
If the Constitution was still in effect, it would be applied to people. | ||
And it doesn't seem to be doing so. | ||
This shit is too dangerous. | ||
So, in this next clip, Alex gets to talking about the big Supreme Court decision of the last week that gave Oklahoma, a large portion of Oklahoma, to the tribal lands. | ||
Oh, no. | ||
What are we going to say about this? | ||
He doesn't say all that much about it, actually. | ||
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Oh, that's all right. | ||
Yeah, but before he gets to it, he's sort of like teasing what's coming up. | ||
I got really excited about something that never pays off. | ||
We got Bohemian Grove news. | ||
The Supreme Court. | ||
Has handed over half of Oklahoma so they can defend a convicted child rapist. | ||
I'm not kidding. | ||
That's no joke. | ||
I have no idea what this Bohemian Grove news is. | ||
I just wrote Bohemian Grove news down because I was anticipating being distracted by whatever he's going to go on with and then get back to it. | ||
But no. | ||
Nope. | ||
I heard that and I was like... | ||
Fuck yes, Bohemian Grove News. | ||
Yeah, of course! | ||
Bohemian Grove News! | ||
In 2020? | ||
That's what I want! | ||
Yeah, I want Bohemian Grove News! | ||
What's up with Moloch? | ||
I don't think he ever gets to that. | ||
Oh, that's unfortunate. | ||
Now, as for the stuff about Oklahoma, his story is not true. | ||
Last week, the Supreme Court ruled 5-4 that about half of Oklahoma is technically Creek land and somewhat sovereign to the state of Oklahoma. | ||
It's really complicated, but essentially what will end up happening is if there's major crimes committed by a native person inside the area considered Creek territory, they cannot be tried by the state of Oklahoma. | ||
It has to be handled by the federal government. | ||
Smaller crimes like misdemeanors or civil matters, those involving native persons, will be handled by tribal courts. | ||
According to NPR, this is already the case in large parts of Arizona, New Mexico, and Montana. | ||
Sure. | ||
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This is not an attempt to protect someone who sexually assaulted a child, but it's easy to create that misinformation out of the case. | |
The case in question was McGirt v. | ||
Oklahoma, where Jim C. McGirt was a member of the Seminole Nation, was convicted of sex crimes against a child on Creek Land. | ||
The appealing of the case was never about getting him acquitted. | ||
The argument was that the state of Oklahoma had no jurisdiction to try the case, and he needed to be tried in federal court. | ||
Alex loves sovereignty, so you'd think he'd be in favor of it for others, but what a shock. | ||
He's trying to turn this story about a treaty between the United States government and the Creek people being honored into a story about protecting pedophiles. | ||
He's really getting to be a one-trick pony these days. | ||
What is he about to do? | ||
And that's why we should reconquer half of Oklahoma in order to make sure that the Oklahoma state can enforce... | ||
He doesn't get to that point, but he's just trying to pretend that it's a thing where they're trying to get this guy off the hook by getting him into tribal courts that'll let him off. | ||
In reality, he'll be tried by a federal court and almost certainly convicted. | ||
It's really just more about honoring this treaty. | ||
Which is tough to get the American government to fucking do. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Weird. | ||
Alex probably feels really bad about supporting Gorsuch now when Steve Pichanik told him not to. | ||
Anyway, now on the lighter side of the Infowars offerings for today in the news. | ||
When I talk about monkey see, monkey do, I meant to hit this yesterday. | ||
Guys, search engine this. | ||
Monkeys now adopting wearing masks. | ||
In India? | ||
In Africa? | ||
In Southeast Asia, monkeys have all now been seen picking up masks out of trash piles and putting them on. | ||
Now, we're a lot smarter than our fellow primate, these different types of monkeys that are doing this, but they think of humans as more advanced, as successful. | ||
They watch us closely. | ||
What are you doing? | ||
We drop food and stuff for them. | ||
Stop it. | ||
And they know that we're more advanced, so they're now putting the mask on. | ||
I think it's entirely possible that it's a coincidence that doesn't mean anything, that a couple people might have seen monkeys putting on discarded masks. | ||
Kind of like when you see a crab holding a knife. | ||
Sure, sure. | ||
Sure. | ||
Unfortunately, the monkey isn't very good at that move, and it ends up with the scarf over its face and kind of looks like a mask. | ||
It's a really cute video, and people love it. | ||
Did you know that there is a mainstream movie where a monkey wears a fez hat? | ||
Have you seen that? | ||
It's called Aladdin. | ||
It's incredible. | ||
This kind of does illustrate a disturbing trend of monkeys, though they're mimicking our behaviors. | ||
Yes. | ||
We all wear masks, and then to be like us, monkeys are doing it too. | ||
Because they know we're more advanced. | ||
The only problem with this theory is that the video has been reposted for at least a year, and it predates COVID-19. | ||
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Wow. | |
It went viral again after it was reposted by Susanta Nanda of the Indian Forest Services, but it's not a new video. | ||
Also, I'm really interested in this theory that Alex has about monkeys copying our behaviors because they think we're successful. | ||
That's something I don't have anywhere near the amount of patience it would take to unpack, so I'm going to leave the topic with this thought. | ||
Uh-huh. | ||
For Alex Jones, work is basically just him seeing some kind of piece of viral content and then making up a story about it. | ||
Yes, correct. | ||
That's what he calls research. | ||
That's his job. | ||
That's basically all he does. | ||
Also, I think that monkeys would probably copy other behaviors. | ||
If they had a fundamental understanding of us... | ||
They started wearing shoes. | ||
I feel like they'd have a stock market if they really liked our successfulness. | ||
I'm going to give you a hint as to where I think Alex gets this information. | ||
I'm going to go with this. | ||
And let me see if you can get the reference, alright? | ||
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Damn you! | |
You maniacs! | ||
God damn you! | ||
Damn you all to hell! | ||
Seems likely. | ||
That sounds about right. | ||
So, Alex, in this next clip, he takes responsibility for a decision that Trump made that I'm going to present without comment, though I do think this could look real bad in hindsight. | ||
Trump, as I told you first, a month and a half ago, was going to sideline Fauci. | ||
It happened two weeks later. | ||
They even used the term sideline. | ||
Had that directly from the White House, that they got the message. | ||
I've advised the White House, destroy him. | ||
Destroy gates. | ||
Annihilate them. | ||
They've got the patents on the vaccines. | ||
They pre-planned it all. | ||
You're starting to see that come out. | ||
Trump's the real deal, folks, but he's got to hit them now. | ||
He can't wait. | ||
So Alex has sort of given the impression that his content getting to Trump has inspired him to sideline the sort of medical experts in the middle of a pandemic. | ||
Hope that doesn't... | ||
End up looking real bad in the present or even worse in the future. | ||
So what you're saying is Alex is claiming to directly influence the removal of medical experts in the middle of a pandemic. | ||
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Yep. | |
I think that would be more of an admission of guilt, really. | ||
I do think it'll look pretty bad. | ||
It won't look good. | ||
So now Alex starts fantasizing about how Trump needs to have Fauci and Bill Gates murdered. | ||
Trump's the real deal, folks, but he's got to hit them now. | ||
He can't wait. | ||
And he's the president. | ||
These are traitors working with China. | ||
I mean, hit him politically, president. | ||
As hard as you want, the American people will back it. | ||
Or maybe Fauci just goes away on a long trip along with Bill Gates somewhere. | ||
Maybe they just vacationed together someplace we'd never see him again. | ||
Who knows? | ||
They're like Whitman, Price from the Dodd. | ||
Really? | ||
Society paid in full. | ||
Last season's winners. | ||
Let's continue. | ||
Man, Alex complains all the time about this idea of the Soviets disappearing people. | ||
Well, it's morally wrong to disappear people. | ||
I guess, but he's kind of wanting his enemies to go on a long camping trip. | ||
Well, that's because Trump is the real deal, and the real deal disappears people. | ||
I guess. | ||
I mean, it's just silly. | ||
So, this morning, on the 10th, that morning, Alex... | ||
Was driving around or something, and he saw some joggers. | ||
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Oh, God. | |
We're going to scream at joggers now? | ||
No, I don't know if he yells at them, but he does write a weird story about them. | ||
So this morning, I was doing an errand. | ||
I was in a little strip center area. | ||
It was full of parking. | ||
So I parked a little down the street by a residential area, and I get back in my car, and I see what looks like some joggers, walkers, about 100 yards away. | ||
And by the time I roll up the window and, you know... | ||
Turn on the car, they're about 50 yards away, and I'm on my phone, taking a call, and I notice that they're waiting and pointing at me, but they've got a whole sidewalk and everything. | ||
And so I get off the phone, and I'm sitting there watching them, and I go, they look about like Chinese. | ||
They're wearing masks. | ||
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What? | |
Chinese man, Chinese woman. | ||
And they start walking down, pointing at me angry. | ||
I didn't videotape it. | ||
I didn't want to antagonize them. | ||
Oh, sure. | ||
You hate antagonizing people. | ||
I was in a truck with the windows up, and it... | ||
Wasn't enough that I got in and the windows up. | ||
They were social distancing. | ||
Probably, you know, here working for a tech company, probably Chinese citizens. | ||
Because there, their phones track them for every foot they are. | ||
And if they go buy another person, their social credit score goes down. | ||
So to them, it's like a big video game to follow the AI to prepare themselves. | ||
And the AI is already in place. | ||
The public's just being told about it now. | ||
So to watch the next level of conformity 100 yards away. | ||
And then 50 yards away, stopping and waiting for me on a quiet street, looked like Mayberry. | ||
So it's interesting how many assumptions he makes in that story that are completely unfounded. | ||
Like, he decides that they must be Chinese citizens here working for a tech company, and they're used to being monitored by cell phone and having their credit score go down, and so that's why they're pointing at him. | ||
I think it's entirely possible that they knew it was Alex Jones and they're like, look at that fucking asshole! | ||
Or even, let's take a benign version of it. | ||
They just see him and they know who he is and he's a famous person. | ||
Look, it's Alex Jones! | ||
There's a hundred explanations that have nothing to do with masks or social distancing at all. | ||
Or, if they are keenly aware of who he is, it could be a look out. | ||
Look out, we are minorities and Alex Jones is in a truck. | ||
This could not go well. | ||
I just kept thinking during that story, the next thing that Alex should say to some other human being is like, why do these wolves have so many pads on them? | ||
That's what you should say after that story. | ||
That is an insane person. | ||
All we have to go on is Alex's retelling of things. | ||
Let's look at the concrete things that happened in this story. | ||
Alex was in his truck. | ||
He saw a couple of people who pointed at him. | ||
Those are the only things that are concrete that aren't just his interpretation of what happened. | ||
Alex, a famous person, is in a truck. | ||
A large truck, of course, which would draw attention on its own. | ||
People noticed him. | ||
He has a big old head. | ||
The end. | ||
He's very easy to pick out of a crowd. | ||
I don't recall the Chinese government having anything to do with that, but I could be wrong. | ||
Well, I mean, this is one of those things. | ||
If I were Alex, I would call it a Rosetta Stone. | ||
The ways in which you can see the concrete facts of this story are thin. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Most of the meat is just things that he's making up. | ||
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Right. | |
And imagining. | ||
Because this story is a zero on its own. | ||
And it's still a boring story! | ||
You're not wrong. | ||
Even with all the shit he's added into it, I was bored. | ||
You're not wrong. | ||
You're not wrong. | ||
It's a pretty bad story. | ||
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Wow. | |
Even with all the... | ||
Embellishments. | ||
Yeah. | ||
All the tassels and bells on it, it's still... | ||
Really, really boring. | ||
This is why his stand-up did not go well. | ||
True. | ||
So, Alex has learned that there's this guy named Nim Kid. | ||
Okay. | ||
The rats of Nim Kid? | ||
No. | ||
He's an emergency, a Texas emergency division chief. | ||
And he did an interview that was discussing how... | ||
There are instances where we might want to be suggesting people wear masks at home. | ||
And Alex has taken this to be like, they're going to force you to wear a mask at home. | ||
And so he plays this clip. | ||
But the reason I kept this in is that you can tell Alex is very strategic about interrupting this clip. | ||
The man you always see standing behind him is Texas Chief Nim Kid. | ||
You always see Nim Kid. | ||
Behind the governor wearing his mask. | ||
And he says, do not leave your house without a mask, but also in your house wear a mask because you're such a bad person. | ||
You're so evil. | ||
You're so dangerous. | ||
Here it is. | ||
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Today is we need to do that when we're in our homes also. | |
As you know, I'm a lifelong San Antonio and grew up there, worked there for many years, and I know how many multi-generational families that we have. | ||
And while we believe the community is doing a great job of following the rules when they're outside of the home, We really need to be thinking about doing the same thing when we're inside the home. | ||
All of us are capable of catching this disease. | ||
None of us are immune from this. | ||
And the fact that we need to get across this in order to protect ourselves, we need to protect our families and our loved ones. | ||
We really need to be thinking about the care that we're providing inside the home right now to make sure that we're not spreading this disease inside the home and then making it come outside the house. | ||
So let me get this straight. | ||
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What you're effectively saying is that people should be wearing masks inside their own homes now? | |
Ryan, I'm saying if you can't socially distance and can't socially isolate, or if you've been out in public and exposing yourself and you haven't decontaminated yourself good enough when you get home, if you have someone that has underlying medical conditions at home... | ||
That's enough. | ||
Turn this idiot off. | ||
Okay, if you want to know the road to hell, what it's paved with, it's paved with... | ||
Reasonable. | ||
...of Texas Emergency Management System. | ||
Nim kid. | ||
Alex had to interrupt right then because he realized that it was making too much sense. | ||
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Yep. | |
And if he allowed the guy to talk any longer, it was going to be completely clear what he was talking about. | ||
Here's the version that Alex wants his audience to believe is what Kid is saying. | ||
All you Texans need to wear masks when you leave the house and now also at home. | ||
We're mandating you to do this and if you don't submit, you'll be in trouble. | ||
However, the further that clip played, it became more clear that what he was saying made sense. | ||
Kidd was not saying that anything about mandating people to wear masks at home is just a suggestion that people should consider. | ||
And it's not something that everyone needs to consider. | ||
It was a suggestion that was specific to people who are living in multi-generational homes and may have people in their house who are at a higher risk from the virus. | ||
If you're in such a household and you're not able to protect yourself when you go out in public, then it might be a good thing to consider to wear a mask inside to save your grandmother's life. | ||
This was a big slip-up on Alex's part that could have easily been avoided if he did any preparation for his show. | ||
If he even gave a single shit about the things he covered, he would have pre-screened that clip and known where you need to turn it off so it doesn't contradict your narrative about it. | ||
You cut it off when the guy asks, so are you saying that we need to wear a mask? | ||
Cut it off before that. | ||
And then you cut it off. | ||
Cut it off before that. | ||
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Ah, fair. | |
Yeah, I mean, like, it's embarrassing, that fuck up. | ||
It really is. | ||
But, you know, it's great. | ||
The way that Alex is able to get around that and try and, if you'll pardon the expression, mask. | ||
His fuck-up is by faking anger. | ||
Oh, I'm so disgusted with this. | ||
I've got to get this terrible news out of my... | ||
Turn this guy off saying things that are unfortunately about to make sense. | ||
And are starting to. | ||
So there's a coup against Trump that's been the main thrust of this entire episode. | ||
And it's live. | ||
When we come back, I'll get into the coup plan against Trump that's now active and live, openly announced by Democrats. | ||
But first... | ||
We'll play the director of the U.N. Emergency Response Operation. | ||
His counterpart that wrote this up, he's the head of Emergency in Texas. | ||
He gets his orders down to the CDC from the U.N. directly from Dr. Michael J. Ryan that says, we're coming to take your children, your parents. | ||
We're coming into your houses. | ||
And this piece of trash is getting us ready for it. | ||
He hasn't even gotten the memo yet. | ||
In about a month. | ||
Silver has always been nature's very own animal egg. | ||
Oops. | ||
You suck! | ||
Bad time management there. | ||
So Alex says he's going to play this clip, and there's some nonsense that he said in that clip already, but I'll play Alex's thing here before getting into any of that. | ||
Here's the head of the UN Global Emergency Response to Disasters and Medical Crises, Dr. Ryan, and he is through this... | ||
UNWHO, down to the NIH CDC, the state of Texas, who this man takes his orders from, the Texas Division of Emergency Management head, Chief Nim Kidd, who says, don't leave your house without a mask and you need to wear one in your house. | ||
And then already in Australia, already in Spain, they begun coming to the houses, taking the families away, breaking them up. | ||
Here it is. | ||
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And at the moment, In most parts of the world, due to lockdown, most of the transmission that's actually happening in many countries now is happening in the household, at family level. | |
In some senses, transmission has been taken off the streets and pushed back into family units. | ||
Now, we need to go and look in families to find those people who may be sick and remove them and isolate them in a safe and dignified manner. | ||
So, first things first, the UN emergency management people are not in charge of the Texas Division of Emergency Management. | ||
Ah, sure. | ||
There's a lot of local jurisdictional focus in terms of the Texas emergency planning structure, and it gets a little messy, but ultimately it all goes back to the governor. | ||
I was able to find the 2020 Texas Emergency Management Structure document, which discusses the Texas Emergency Management Council. | ||
This is, quote, composed of state agencies and non-governmental organizations appointed by the governor. | ||
The council was established to advise and assist the governor in all matters related to disaster mitigation, preparedness, response, and recovery. | ||
This has no formal connection to the body that Dr. Michael Ryan is the executive director of, which is the World Health Organization health emergencies program. | ||
That clip that Alex played probably sounds kind of scary, but Alex is taking it entirely out of context. | ||
This is from a media briefing on the virus from March 30th, and the particular steps that Dr. Ryan describes are not relevant to our situation at all. | ||
In the full context of his comments, Ryan is discussing a monitoring methodology that could be put in place if cases went down to very low numbers. | ||
If you only have a few cases identified a day, a state or country could have the ability to trace their contacts and monitor them for symptoms, and if someone gets sick, provide them with a safe place to quarantine away from the home so they don't get other people sick. | ||
and keep spreading the disease. | ||
If you listen to the full response to this question, he even says that it isn't something you can really do effectively when you have thousands of cases a day, and the U.S. has been currently tracking over 50,000 new cases a day, so it's pretty safe to say that most of the country is not in a position where anything Dr. Ryan says Ryan was saying back in March is relevant. | ||
Yeah. | ||
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Dr. Ryan was talking about what a country could do once it is pushed transmission off the streets and into the homes. | |
The tragedy of Alex lying about this stuff is that we're nowhere near that point. | ||
Nope. | ||
So, I don't know. | ||
I mean, you can get scared about this out-of-context clip of this World Health Organization guy, or you can recognize that it has nothing to do with the situation. | ||
It seems like he's dealing with a serious pot-committed kind of fallacy there, where it's just like, hey, I've been denying this for so long. | ||
Even though the evidence is now completely undeniable, I have to double down. | ||
Otherwise, I'm going to look like a moron. | ||
Yeah, it's tough. | ||
Even though I am a moron, I don't want to look like one. | ||
That would make me feel bad. | ||
That would feel bad. | ||
It would feel bad. | ||
Yep. | ||
So, Alex still hasn't gotten to his big top story, which is the coup against Trump. | ||
Sure, sure, sure. | ||
That's still supposed to be coming. | ||
Of course. | ||
And so, maybe we'll get to it? | ||
I've got Savannah Hernandez and Owen Troyer who are on fire. | ||
Coming in here. | ||
Oh, my God! | ||
I haven't even gotten to my top story yet. | ||
So what I'm going to do is I'm going to do this right now. | ||
I'm going to mention this. | ||
I'm going to hit this coming out of the gates at six after. | ||
They'll be in studio with me. | ||
We'll talk about this at first, and we'll move into the subjects they're on. | ||
But you understand, I've got a stack of news articles and video clips where they're officially saying how they're going to have a coup against the president physically with the U.S. military. | ||
Dan is holding a knife as we speak. | ||
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The last thing I need, guys, is to hammer home the concept. | |
Goldman Sachs article where Goldman Sachs came out yesterday. | ||
Goldman Sachs says election will be contested. | ||
I need that, please. | ||
It was a Reuters article. | ||
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So... | |
Oh, man, I tell you, there's just so much of this. | ||
I can't even keep track of it anymore. | ||
So that's coming up briefly. | ||
We want to fund this operation. | ||
We want to get great products at the same time. | ||
Now's the time to do it. | ||
I can't possibly imagine doing such a shitty job and then still insisting on begging the audience for money. | ||
Isn't he working? | ||
It's happening. | ||
Alex hasn't gotten to his top story, so he's going to tease it. | ||
But he doesn't have the right piece of paper in front of him, so the show just grinds to a halt and he decides this is a good time to do an ad. | ||
Alex's entire thing with Goldman Sachs attacking Trump would probably make more sense if Trump hadn't made former Goldman Sachs executive Steve Mnuchin the secretary of the treasury. | ||
His campaign hadn't been run by former Goldman Sachs employee Steve Bannon and his original chief financial advisor wasn't former Goldman Sachs COO Gary Cohn. | ||
There's no conflict between Trump and Goldman Sachs, despite what Alex might want to pretend. | ||
This article that Alex can't remember anything about has to do with Goldman Sachs advising investors to hedge their positions through the end of the year since they predict market volatility around the election. | ||
They're now predicting a contested election the same way Alex is trying to use the term where both candidates say that they're the rightful winner. | ||
Goldman Sachs is saying that there are certain variables in play which could delay the announcement of a winner, which could lead to some market fluctuation. | ||
the time it takes to count those, and the virus possibly affecting voting schedules, as reasons to be a cautious investor. | ||
There were a bunch of ups and downs in the five weeks between the 2000 election and the Supreme Court naming Bush the winner, and this is more or less just a financial business advising investors that some similar shit is probable this year. | ||
Yeah. | ||
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This is just short of proof of a coup, but I guess if that's how Alex wants to play things, that's what he's going to play. | |
I mean... | ||
If there was a coup, Goldman Sachs is on Trump's team. | ||
Like, what are we talking here? | ||
Come on, man. | ||
Seems like it. | ||
Yeah. | ||
So, Alex brings in Owen and Savannah Hernandez. | ||
They are on fire, though, correct? | ||
They've been put out since then. | ||
They were not burning. | ||
This is a computer chip in a homeless person situation all over again. | ||
If you say Owen Schroyer's on fire, I want burning Schroyer. | ||
You want flames. | ||
I want flames! | ||
Flambe Schroyer. | ||
Absolutely. | ||
No. | ||
Instead, you just get him sort of kind of talking about how maybe we should murder people. | ||
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What I think they may do, though, they may have television media come on the night of the election and say, oh, Biden won, Biden won, even though Trump did win, and they'll just have the whole censorship grid rolled out just like they did with COVID. | ||
They'll stop, just like they stop any doctors from talking about hydroxychloroquine or stop any doctors from talking about the fake testers. | ||
Exactly. | ||
This has all been a dress rehearsal for stealing the election and having big tech AI totally suppress it all. | ||
And then so they'll come in and they'll say, oh, Biden won, Biden won, and then Trump will say no. | ||
Biden didn't want it. | ||
Then it'll be the president versus the media. | ||
That'll be the playing field. | ||
You know, our question now, Alex, is we basically have three options. | ||
One option is attack. | ||
And I mean, literally, it's time to mount up and we'll go make our own autonomous zone. | ||
And we'll drag these Democrats out by the scruff of their neck. | ||
Yeah, the autonomous zones will be inside the Capitol. | ||
Yeah, and so that's one. | ||
We can attack. | ||
We can do that. | ||
Two is patience. | ||
We can sit back and wait. | ||
And see, okay, let's see what happens in the election night. | ||
Let's hope for a good thing. | ||
Maybe a big red wave, a bunch of patriots get into Congress, and we can actually do this peacefully and politically. | ||
And then the third option is retreat. | ||
Go to the hills, mount up, get emergency food, get by a body of water, get by a mountain, get a bunch of guns and ammo. | ||
Well, I'm doing both. | ||
Just do three. | ||
The philosophical thing we have to wonder now is, for example, if we want to attack or if we want to wait, at what point do we measure... | ||
At what point do we have to choose before we've had the choices taken? | ||
I mean, obviously the answer was when Bolsonaro tested positive for COVID-19, you giant bunch of cowards. | ||
This is pathetic. | ||
This really is. | ||
I have no fear of these people. | ||
If they were going to pull off any of this bullshit, they've already hit all the benchmarks. | ||
Well, I know. | ||
That is a hallmark of Alex's broadcast style. | ||
But simultaneously, people do get hurt. | ||
Periodically. | ||
So it's not like, you know, it's not harmless. | ||
No, no, no, totally. | ||
I get that. | ||
And, you know, the way that the world has gotten more and more insane over the past six months, you know, it does tend itself... | ||
I feel like there's more danger than normal. | ||
But generally, I agree with you. | ||
I agree that this is more bark than bite. | ||
Yeah, totally. | ||
But at the same time, I am not comfortable with... | ||
The extent to which these conversations are just super normalized. | ||
Right, I know. | ||
But again, why? | ||
These people are so fucking stupid. | ||
We can't outsmart them just because they're murderers? | ||
It's not about a fear of Owen doing anything. | ||
No, of course not. | ||
The unknown person who listens to Alex. | ||
They're stochastic terrorists. | ||
You're not worried about it. | ||
One thing that I think is really interesting is it appears that Owen is a little bit over Trump's bullshit. | ||
It seems to me like he's coming from a position of like, yeah, look, he's not going to do it. | ||
He's not going to do the things we want. | ||
And Alex doesn't seem thrilled with that. | ||
If Trump wants to let them steal the election from Trump, okay, fine. | ||
That's Trump's decision. | ||
We're not going to let them take our country. | ||
And they've already told us the contact tracers are coming to our houses. | ||
And they go, oh, by the way, they're going to be political. | ||
They're the youth brigades Obama wanted. | ||
This is their whole rollout. | ||
Hey, we want to be on the field. | ||
We want to be on the front lines. | ||
We are the tip of the spear. | ||
Trump has let them censor us. | ||
Trump has let them lie about us, sue us into submission. | ||
We're still fighting. | ||
So, hey, you know, at the end of the day... | ||
Are we fighting for Trump or are we fighting for America? | ||
I'm fighting for America. | ||
Let's be clear. | ||
But Trump is there for us. | ||
He's doing a great job. | ||
But Owen, all the points you made are great. | ||
Wow. | ||
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Oh, boy. | ||
That's a little bit weird. | ||
The two of them are not on the same page, really. | ||
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Uh-oh. | |
Schroer is starting to lean more towards the Fuentes wing of the let's murder everybody party. | ||
It seems like he is in the, like, Trump's not going to do it. | ||
And that could, you know, we'll see where that goes. | ||
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See how long he can rationalize working for the company that he works for. | ||
Yeah, no kidding. | ||
So Savannah Hernandez comes in, and she's got some dumb shit to say about how, like, oh, all these ideas that Trump's not going to leave office, it's just because of Hillary. | ||
They've been laying the groundwork for this since Trump got into office. | ||
Hillary Clinton has already come out so many times and said that, well, what if Trump loses in 2020? | ||
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He's not going to leave the White House. | |
So she's been already laying the groundwork, planting the seeds for this. | ||
It's all good and wild to talk about people like Hillary raising concerns about Trump not leaving office, but you're kind of being dishonest if you don't point out that Trump has a long history of quote-unquote joking about how he's not going to leave office. | ||
Yeah. | ||
There was that speech he gave in December 2019 at the Israeli-American Council National Summit where he said, quote, when they all scream four more years, four more years, I always say make it 12 years and you'll drive them crazy. | ||
Or there was his tweet from June 2019, quote, A poll should be done on which is the more dishonest and deceitful newspaper, the failing New York Times or the Amazon lobbyist Washington Post. | ||
They are both a disgrace to our country, the enemy of the people, but I can't seem to figure out which is worse. | ||
The good news is at the end of six years after America has been made great again and I leave the beautiful White House, do you think the people would demand that I stay longer? | ||
Keep America great! | ||
Both of these horrible papers will quickly go out of business and be forever gone. | ||
Or there was the closed-door speech that he gave in front of Republican donors at Mar-a-Lago in March 2018, where he discussed how the president of China just gave himself a lifetime post. | ||
Quote, he's now president for life. | ||
President for life! | ||
No, he's great. | ||
And look, he was able to do that. | ||
I think it's great. | ||
Maybe we'll have to give that a shot someday. | ||
A Slade article has a listing of at least 27 times Trump has made comments about how he should get more than two terms since he's taken office. | ||
This is not a normal thing for a human to do. | ||
No. | ||
There's a couple of reasons why someone would act like this, and I'll get to that in a second. | ||
But first, I think it's important to point out that there's a massive difference between the behavior of someone like Hillary and someone like Trump in this circumstance. | ||
Hillary is not a person who's able to make any real decision in this situation. | ||
She's a commentator who's expressing concern that a person will make a very bad decision. | ||
Conversely, Trump is the decision maker. | ||
Legitimately, he's the only person who can decide whether or not to throw this country into an even deeper existential crisis when the election results come in. | ||
He alone is either able to accept or reject a win or a loss, and the ramifications of that choice are almost impossible to overstate. | ||
When Hillary discusses these concerns, she's well within a right to do so, and you're welcome to have your opinion about her opinion. | ||
When Trump quote-unquote jokes about insisting on staying in office after two terms, There are only two possible explanations I can really come up with for why Trump would so consistently joke about this. | ||
The first is to piss off his political opposition. | ||
In that case, we have a president who's such a dick that he'll create the impression that he wants to overturn basic institutional norms in order to troll people. | ||
That alone is disqualifying for a person to be a leader, let alone someone worth taking seriously. | ||
The other possibility is that Trump thinks he should be president for life. | ||
I don't think you can really, but what about Hillary this? | ||
I don't think it's... | ||
I don't know, but what about Hillary? | ||
You should get a job at InfoWars. | ||
I think I could crush it. | ||
So in this next clip, Owen soft pitches the idea of storming the Capitol. | ||
We already sort of talked about it in that last clip of his. | ||
The autonomous zone is in the Capitol. | ||
He wants 50,000 armed people to storm the Capitol. | ||
Oh, that'd be nice. | ||
I'll be honest, Alex. | ||
I think about this. | ||
I think about, you know, is it time for Alex Jones and Infowars to declare war on the deep state and literally say, okay, if we don't have arrests by October 31st, 2020, we call for 50,000 armed men to meet us at the Texas Capitol, and we'll set up our own autonomous zone. | ||
And we'll go wherever we need to go and drag out whoever we need to drag out by the scuff of their neck until we start to get some arrests or we start to get some action. | ||
I don't want to do that. | ||
I know you don't want to do that. | ||
That's why we take political action. | ||
That's why we come on air every day. | ||
But it's reaching a point where, yeah, there's an active coup going on. | ||
I think you come on air every day to fantasize about doing stuff like that. | ||
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what you said. | ||
Hey, listen. | ||
I don't want to do the thing that for the past six months I've been screaming how great it would be to do. | ||
But, you know, if they don't do it, they're going to have to make me do the thing that, again, I explicitly... | ||
Do not absolutely want to do and have been saying that I should do for the best. | ||
Now, I said Halloween because it's the only night we have a chance. | ||
It is. | ||
Because we can all be dressed up. | ||
As we know, Samhain is also when the planets align, giving us the power to break into homes easily. | ||
Uh-huh. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
I like it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
I think this is a good plan. | ||
I don't think it's a good plan. | ||
You don't think so? | ||
I think it's pretty scary. | ||
Also, I love the idea of him like, is it time for us to declare war on the deep state? | ||
How many fucking times has Alex yelled about that? | ||
Alex said that the deep state was poisoning Trump's fucking cokes! | ||
That was like three years ago. | ||
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Yeah, you guys declared war on the deep state? | |
Oh, God. | ||
So we know that later this evening, on the 10th, Roger gets his sentence. | ||
Clemenced? | ||
Clemenced? | ||
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Whatever. | |
Roberto Clements, is what they say? | ||
But on the show that day, Alex let something slip. | ||
I know whether Trump's giving him a pardon or not. | ||
I've been asked not to say. | ||
I'll just tell you, the Drudge Report headline's very accurate right now. | ||
We put it back on screen. | ||
Developing Trump to pardon Stone. | ||
Well, yeah. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I love how I always have to wait. | ||
I don't get to break stuff, even though I know it a week ago. | ||
I mean, as of a week ago, Trump is going to pardon the president. | ||
But, I mean, Trump is going to pardon Stone. | ||
First of all, Alex was wrong. | ||
Roger didn't get a pardon. | ||
He got clemency, which is different. | ||
Clemency just reduces the penalty for a conviction, but the crime is still on a person's record, so Roger's still a convicted felon. | ||
If Trump legitimately thought that Roger was wrongly convicted, he would have pardoned him. | ||
But he didn't, because that would probably be too messy. | ||
And I don't even think William Barr would have had his back on that. | ||
It totally would have. | ||
Maybe. | ||
I don't know. | ||
Clemency is a perfect middle road for corrupt shitheads, because then Roger doesn't have to go to prison, and you don't have to open up the box of what could happen if you pardon him. | ||
Nah, it's already happened. | ||
The box was opened a long time ago. | ||
According to you. | ||
Well, I think... | ||
The difference between those things is this is such more of a discreet act. | ||
Yeah. | ||
The stuff with Mueller and all that is very... | ||
There's a lot of ins and outs. | ||
There's a lot of complexity to it. | ||
This is quite simple. | ||
Yeah, that's fair. | ||
I think you could make a really easier to digest argument about pardoning Roger. | ||
Fair. | ||
For trying to intimidate a witness to not testify in a case that had to do with him trying to circumvent the law in order to help Trump's campaign. | ||
I think it's a little easier to be like, this is the clearest case of corruption. | ||
But I don't disagree with you on a human level. | ||
Right, right, right. | ||
I think that's probably my favorite part of this, is how much of a chump Mueller is. | ||
Stone was the easiest conviction he had. | ||
And that was ripped away from him. | ||
They got it. | ||
Mueller is the worst. | ||
He has failed in every possible way. | ||
It's hilarious to me. | ||
I'm not... | ||
Standing up for him or anything like that. | ||
But I am going to say that he did everything he could. | ||
Oh, did he? | ||
Well, in terms of Roger, they got the conviction. | ||
Maybe. | ||
They got the conviction. | ||
Oh, yeah, you're right. | ||
You're right in terms of Roger. | ||
That's not on him. | ||
No, no, no. | ||
But that's why it's even funnier. | ||
Because Trump made him look like a chump again. | ||
It's pathetic. | ||
He should really be embarrassed. | ||
So, the larger thing that I think here is that if Alex knew that Trump was going to pardon Roger for the last week, what's his excuse for engaging in the absurd and embarrassing radio play about how Roger's going to die in jail because he's such a hero? | ||
You know, all that shit. | ||
If the whole point was to plead his case to Trump for the pardon and you already knew it was coming, that kind of makes the whole thing seem like an act. | ||
Almost like if you were just building up to the payoff that you knew was coming. | ||
What better way to heighten the drama of a pardon than to pretend it might not come? | ||
Just to juice the ratings. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
If Alex knew for a week, then there's no other explanation for his behavior than trying to will they won't they. | ||
Trying to increase drama and tension in order to raise ratings. | ||
That's indefensible. | ||
How many people are going to tune in to all of those different shows that Stone was just on that he just happened to start going on really frequently in the past couple of weeks? | ||
And everybody's going to tune in. | ||
Is tonight the night that Stone announces he's been pardoned? | ||
Well, you know. | ||
I think you know. | ||
Good for him. | ||
So, in this next clip, Owen, he starts talking some more about his enemies. | ||
Sure. | ||
Imagined enemies. | ||
Well, Alex believes that all these people who are out protesting, they're enemies. | ||
Of course. | ||
Owen has a slightly different stance on it that I actually think is worse. | ||
It's weird because you can say there's enemies of freedom, but that's not... | ||
To me, the correct psychological approach. | ||
Because I don't sit here and see them as my enemy. | ||
I don't see them as an enemy of freedom. | ||
I think if you ask them, they want to be free too, just like anybody else. | ||
But what they've become unwittingly is obstacles of freedom. | ||
They've become obstacles of freedom. | ||
And as soon as Americans in mass are willing to fight for their freedom, like you said, Alex, it's a trap. | ||
You're now an obstacle. | ||
You're going to get run over. | ||
Use the cars running these people over in the streets as a physical example. | ||
Now, and Alex, we were talking off air. | ||
The problem is, they've got the whole left-wing activists in control of all the justice. | ||
You know, 10,000 people can be surrounding your vehicle, threatening to kill you, smashing the windows and everything, and if you plow through it, you're the bad guy. | ||
That's right. | ||
They got the corporations, they got the judges, they got the media. | ||
Now, all over the place, Black Lives Matter can beat people up, kill them, but if somebody fights back now, they're being charged everywhere. | ||
So, that's a very interesting way for Owen to dehumanize his opposition and take away any reason to care about what they say, what their positions are, or even pretend that they have any agency. | ||
They aren't enemies who have political goals or points. | ||
They're merely obstacles. | ||
The two sides that exist in this narrative are Alex and his team, who are supposedly the good guys. | ||
Then there are the globalists, who are the bad guys. | ||
Everyone who doesn't agree with Alex, like, let's say, someone who might demonstrate for reproductive rights or protest against ICE, they aren't people with real positions or thought-out convictions. | ||
They're just zombies who've been brainwashed by the globalists, and they're not the enemy. | ||
They're just obstacles to be run over. | ||
All they are is in the way. | ||
Yep. | ||
The InfoWarriors are the only people who actually are on a path that involves making choices or having agency, which naturally leads to some pretty sickening conclusions. | ||
This is the same mentality that Alex expresses all the time when he talks about how killing a globalist is like killing a bug. | ||
You don't want to do it, but sometimes you have to. | ||
That kind of rhetoric, and the sort of thing that Owen is expressing here, are means of giving tacit permission to enact violence on your political enemies by reducing them to being human obstacles. | ||
Recently, USA Today reported that since May 27th, there have been at least 66 instances of protesters being hit by cars. | ||
Undoubtedly, not all of these were cold-blooded attempted murders, but at least some of them definitely were. | ||
Seven of the incidents were police hitting protesters in just over a month. | ||
You know, that's a short period of time. | ||
At least two of these people have been killed and countless others have been hurt and traumatized by these events. | ||
This is not something that deserves to be mocked, even if you disagree with the politics of the people who are being targeted by these attacks. | ||
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I wholeheartedly despise Trump and his dumb rallies, but if there had been 66 instances of Trump supporters being hit by cars at his rallies since May 27th, I would absolutely show some reverence to the subject and entertain the possibility that something had gone wrong with the opposition to Trump. | ||
The messaging of that movement if people thought that running civilians over with cars was an appropriate way to voice your political opposition. | ||
And Alex and Owen can sit here and play the game where they pretend that these people are all just looters and rioters who are threatening the people in the cars who hit them in self-defense, but even they know that's bullshit. | ||
On some level, these dudes know that what they're doing is trying to help normalize the enacting of lethal violence against their political rivals. | ||
And that's why Alex talks about helicopter rides. | ||
That's why he talks about how his listeners can be instruments of God's vengeance. | ||
There's a concerted effort of dehumanization of political enemies and of normalizing the conversation of enacting violence on this show to a level that I'm consistently uncomfortable with. | ||
Yeah, that was... | ||
If Schroyer and I are drunk in a bar and he says that, that's when you take a swing at somebody, you know? | ||
It's just like, look, no. | ||
No. | ||
No. | ||
Those are fighting words? | ||
Done. | ||
I'm out. | ||
I'm out. | ||
However, I'll leave. | ||
You'll leave. | ||
This is fucked. | ||
This is too fucked. | ||
That's just too fucked. | ||
Yeah, it's a mess. | ||
Yikes. | ||
So, Owen starts talking about how these people in the New York Police Department, the detectives, what they need to do is they need to release all the dirt that they actually have on Hillary and all this evidence that she chopped up babies and stuff. | ||
Cool. | ||
Go for it. | ||
Now, that part, I mean, whatever. | ||
I don't care about what Owen's saying, but I think this is the first instance where I think Alex is drunk. | ||
I think he might have gotten drunk in the middle of this show. | ||
You think he might have kicked it up a notch? | ||
Yeah. | ||
I really think that the New York cops and the New York FBI that are good people but are actually going through the process of this, it's time to just release it. | ||
It's time to release the... | ||
That's right. | ||
No more weight around. | ||
The gloves are off. | ||
They broke all the rules. | ||
Just burn them. | ||
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Burn them. | |
Burn! | ||
We've made a step. | ||
We're totally attacking. | ||
Burn! | ||
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Attack! | |
Catch it! | ||
Yeah! | ||
Whether America can handle it or not, there's only one way to find out. | ||
Yeah, let's just get it going here. | ||
There is a real change in his dynamic, and part of it could just be trying to do a bro down with Owen. | ||
It's tough to tell, but I also heard some clinking noises that sounded like, eh, who knows, could be a coffee mug. | ||
Sure, sure, sure. | ||
He strikes me as possibly drunk at this point. | ||
And that's only furthered by, or my suspicions are only furthered by the fact that he does a Jeff Foxworthy. | ||
Oh, no. | ||
Are they a Democrat? | ||
You ever heard, like, might be a redneck if you do this. | ||
Might be a redneck. | ||
Might be a pedophile if you're a Democrat. | ||
Sorry, go ahead. | ||
So, anyway. | ||
You guys are great. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Have you heard of this? | ||
Have you heard of this? | ||
You might be a redneck. | ||
Have you heard of this overdone joke structure that has permeated all of, not just America, but the world? | ||
I really think Alex listens to our show, too. | ||
Did we do that recently? | ||
You might be in a tyranny. | ||
Oh, yeah, that's right. | ||
A couple episodes back. | ||
Makes me think he's probably listening. | ||
Oh, that son of a bitch. | ||
Maybe not. | ||
So, Alex gets to talking about the 7277, memorandum 7277. | ||
Yes, yes, yes. | ||
The thing that was about disarming the Soviet Union and the United States during the Cold War to avoid a nuclear war that Alex believes is about actually taking his gun away, which it's not, and it never was. | ||
Well, 7 plus 2 is 9. 9 plus 14. That's 666. | ||
Yep. | ||
Yep. | ||
Well, I stand corrected. | ||
Yep. | ||
So Alex talks about this a little bit, and we know that he knows that it's on the CIA's website, and we've talked about that in the past. | ||
I can't even explain this ahead of time, but this was one of the more disturbing clips I've heard. | ||
Not because he's saying anything fucked up, but just because... | ||
The amount of stupid he has to be if he actually thinks this is out of control. | ||
I've been studying the United Nations, who set it up, how it operates for a long time, and a lot of you have as well. | ||
And they tried to launch plans back in the 60s to disarm the military and the police and then only have a UN force around the world. | ||
And a lot of people ended up, you know, in the government, quietly having to be gotten rid of to stop that at that point. | ||
And you go to the CIA website. | ||
And look up State Department memorandum 7277. | ||
If you type in State Department memorandum 7277, you'll notice it'll pop up on Wikipedia and places like that. | ||
You can actually go to the CIA has got a flyer from 1963 about FBI agents and CIA operatives that were creating a newsletter called On Target about a list of people in the government that they were planning to kill. | ||
If they continue to go along with the plan. | ||
So the government knows all about this ongoing battle. | ||
So we've talked a ton about Memorandum 7277 in the past, so there's no need to rehash that. | ||
We've also talked about this page on CIA.gov that Alex has found about the memo and how it's not a CIA product. | ||
It's the copy of a newsletter called On Target, which was produced by the Minutemen. | ||
This is intensely disturbing to hear Alex say that the operatives for the CIA and FBI were creating OnTarget, because that's not true. | ||
It was the publication of a violent, aggressively anti-communist militia group. | ||
The Minutemen were an organization out of my home state of Missouri, founded by a real dickhead named Robert DePue. | ||
He also was the person who wrote the OnTarget newsletter. | ||
After gaining financial stability by inventing a dog vitamin, DePue lost his shit in the early days of the Red Scare Cold War paranoia. | ||
He set up shop in Norborn, Missouri, and started putting out his newsletters, hoping to find like-minded patriots. | ||
He gained a small following, who he trained in paramilitary tactics. | ||
He constantly exaggerated the size of his movement, which was then repeated by people in the media, which lent his group an outsized sense of relevance than it probably deserved. | ||
When you're a lone anti-communist wacko, it's all good and well for you to accuse everyone of being a communist and then say they deserve to be killed or whatever. | ||
When you start to create an image of holding sway over a large following and you're also building weapons caches and doing military training... | ||
And you're going to attract law enforcement attention with that kind of behavior. | ||
Sooner or later, you would hope, yeah. | ||
Depew was not a mastermind, and thus the FBI was able to infiltrate his group and found that he had a bunch of illegal weapons hidden in various spots for a war that was coming against the communists. | ||
Hi, Mr. Depew. | ||
I am John T. Minutemen. | ||
I was wondering, where do you keep your weapons caches? | ||
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Oh, right over there? | ||
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Oh, shit. | |
Oh, damn it. | ||
He was convicted in 1967 of National Firearms Act violations, but fled before being sent to jail. | ||
After two years, he was captured and sent to prison for four years. | ||
According to the Columbia Daily Tribune, In 1991, he was arrested on child pornography charges that stemmed from an alleged modeling shoot he had with a teenage girl, but he was not convicted. | ||
Just to let you know, he would have been 68 at that point, and not a photographer. | ||
Another thing about Robert Depew is that he was big on naming names, or as some might put it, making kill lists. | ||
This was part of the reason that that issue of On Target is part of the documents included in the CIA reading room, because they had it on file as a part of monitoring his activities, because he was making hit lists of politicians and private individuals that he had decided were communists, and he was publishing their names and addresses. | ||
The subtitle of this newsletter is, quote, Words Won't Win, Action Will. | ||
The thing that's particularly disturbing to me is that I think from the way Alex is talking, it sounds like he legitimately thinks that this document was made by good guys in the government who are trying to warn the patriots about globalists and their rank. | ||
That's really fucked up, because that's not what this is at all. | ||
And if Alex knew anything about the subject he talks about, it's every reason to know that. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Wow. | ||
That this basically doxing kill list that was put out by an anti-communist militia leader in 1963 is the good guys in the government telling all these people about who the globalists are. | ||
Right, right, right. | ||
Well, I mean, Order 66 was the good guys in the government getting rid of all those globalist fucking Jedi. | ||
See? | ||
My mind had a hard time processing that clip. | ||
Alex saying that that is all... | ||
Because here's what I think. | ||
I think that Alex doesn't understand why that document would be on the CIA's reading room if it wasn't created by... | ||
It has to have been created by the CIA. | ||
That's really... | ||
That's a good point. | ||
I think that's why Alex thinks it was CIA instead of it being part of a dossier that they put together because they were observing him because he was a dangerous dude. | ||
Yeah, see, that didn't occur to me because it's too stupid to believe that. | ||
It's too stupid. | ||
That's what I was saying before the clip. | ||
The stupidness that this implies... | ||
That's insane. | ||
Yeah. | ||
That's beyond. | ||
Now the other possibility that I run into when I think about this is that Alex knows that it was a crazy militia leader guy. | ||
And he's like trying to re-up the image. | ||
Or trying to sugarcoat it. | ||
Sure. | ||
A little bit. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Because he's a secret good guy in the government. | ||
He's not, though. | ||
No. | ||
No, no, no. | ||
Although, you know what his problem was? | ||
If he'd come around like 40, 50 years later, he's got Duck Dynasty on A&E. | ||
You know, he invented the dog pill or whatever it is. | ||
He left the veterinary arts. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Because... | ||
Give him a reality TV show. | ||
So, this gets messy. | ||
The 10th. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Alex has Dan Lyman from Europe Wars. | ||
He's visiting the studio, and that has allowed me to get another great clip. | ||
Dan, is there a war on Western civilization? | ||
No, there's not. | ||
But he has Dan Lyman in, and they're supposedly supposed to be talking about how there's going to be a lot of migrants in Europe. | ||
You know, they're anti-migrant, anti-immigrant rhetoric. | ||
Gotta do it. | ||
Hate the non-whites. | ||
Gets very much into the ADL. | ||
Oh! | ||
It's weird. | ||
There is a preoccupation with the ADL surrounding the... | ||
It's supposed to just be about how there's going to be a lot of migrants coming into countries. | ||
Sure, boilerplate stuff. | ||
It's what you expect from these sort of xenophobic dicks. | ||
It's almost entirely complaining about the ADL in ways that are very uncomfortable. | ||
And Alex insists... | ||
Oh, God. | ||
I don't even know how to set this up. | ||
So I don't think the ADL represents Jews. | ||
There are a lot of good Jews. | ||
I've had Jews help me out with things. | ||
A band-out video was designed by a guy from Israel. | ||
Great guy. | ||
He didn't like us being censored. | ||
Helped us build it. | ||
And then it was like, here, it's done. | ||
Have it. | ||
I mean, there's so many examples. | ||
I'm not going to have the ADL trick me into hating Jews because they make money off that. | ||
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Oh, boy. | ||
Oh, boy. | ||
So, that's interesting. | ||
Alex refuses to... | ||
Okay. | ||
I don't even care to unpack this. | ||
Because they start talking, and I immediately start to understand why this is happening in the middle of their conversation about migrants. | ||
Because Nazis won World War II? | ||
Let's continue here. | ||
Let me give people a little preview of what's coming up. | ||
Macron, enabler of the Carnegie Plan. | ||
200 million Africans will live in Europe after 30 years of migration. | ||
This is the connective tissue. | ||
The belief of the anti-Semitic conspiracy theory about the clergy plan is about a rich cabal of Jews that want to replace white men and white people with non-white people from foreign countries. | ||
That is the immigration angle that's being discussed here. | ||
And that's why there is so much anger at the ADL that's being mixed in here. | ||
Because their view of immigration is an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory. | ||
That all traces back to basically this Kalergi plan stuff. | ||
But they gotta, you know, they gotta update it. | ||
But they still don't want to lose the, you know, the plan was still, the Kalergi plan is still a good propaganda tool. | ||
We just can't all hate Jews all the time now. | ||
We gotta update it. | ||
It's so, the guy who sets up my website, cool Jew. | ||
That was a bad performance. | ||
So that's the sort of stuff that's going on on the day that Roger gets clemency. | ||
Great day. | ||
Really got it out there. | ||
So we come back on Saturday now. | ||
I think Alex was drunk that night. | ||
Yes. | ||
I think he kept drinking probably. | ||
Kept it going. | ||
Yeah. | ||
A nice little fun time. | ||
I would assume so. | ||
Maybe that's why he wasn't able to get something out on Friday night. | ||
Yeah, could be. | ||
So we get to Saturday and Alex puts out this emergency broadcast. | ||
Welcome. | ||
Thank you so much for joining us on this Saturday, July 11th, Emergency Global Afternoon Transmission. | ||
We're sending this out on all the radio and TV affiliates and the feeds at band.video. | ||
I fucking love the idea that he's like, oh, we cut in on the... | ||
We cut in on our regularly scheduled not broadcasting, too. | ||
All the radio stations around the country that air my show, I can just hit a button and we override them like the national weather alert system. | ||
Yeah, Alex has that button. | ||
Oh, man. | ||
Yeah, right. | ||
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Has that power. | ||
So, I mean, hey, here we are, and I gotta say, Saturday, Roger just got clemency. | ||
Yes. | ||
What do you expect? | ||
You gotta dance. | ||
You gotta dance. | ||
You gotta dance and you gotta tell me that this is complete vindication. | ||
And the only reason that he didn't get a full pardon is so he can challenge the conviction in court. | ||
Right. | ||
Roger has said that in other venues. | ||
Yes. | ||
I'm talking more concretely. | ||
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From a show standpoint, what do you expect to be on this episode? | ||
Roger Stone. | ||
That's interesting. | ||
Now, here's who Alex's first guest is. | ||
Coming up. | ||
In this hour-plus long transmission, we're scheduled to have ManCal Muller, who's spent the last long-time friend of mine, syndicated talk show, last week with Roger, to give him support. | ||
A lot of exclusive videos, interviews with Roger. | ||
We're going to premiere. | ||
ManCal's already sent those to me, but we're going to get him on the Skype or the Zoom here in a few minutes. | ||
So we got Man Cow. | ||
We don't even get a real Roger Stone? | ||
I don't know. | ||
All we know right now is that we got Man Cow. | ||
We get recordings of Roger Stone? | ||
Man Cow is friends with Roger. | ||
He went and spent some time with him while he was under house arrest. | ||
Of course, of course. | ||
And apparently he made some recordings of Roger. | ||
Oh, great, great. | ||
So that's our first guest. | ||
Okay. | ||
But I'm like, hey, you can have Man Cow and Roger both on. | ||
No, you can't. | ||
Well, Alex does have another guest. | ||
Okay. | ||
Then Roger's longtime personal lawyer, Tyler Nixon, who's... | ||
Not been the lawyer on the case. | ||
He's able to speak about it because he's been both on the inside and the outside. | ||
He's scheduled to be joining us via Skype. | ||
That's coming up. | ||
Roger is not on. | ||
We have... | ||
Alex got local news level accent. | ||
We've got the neighbor of the best friend of Roger Stone over here to give us some information. | ||
Yeah, that to me, when I looked at that, I was like... | ||
What the fuck? | ||
The bare minimum is Roger gives you a call. | ||
Just an appearance. | ||
Yeah. | ||
And he didn't get an appearance? | ||
That's shocking. | ||
Oh man, that's the end. | ||
But there's bigger plans on this Saturday broadcast. | ||
And then after he leaves us, I've never had my phones or my email blown off the wall like this. | ||
I've had neighbors coming over to my house this morning saying, Wayfarer, Wayfarer, Wayfarer, Wayfarer, Wayfarer. | ||
I got home last night. | ||
After working until like 6 o 'clock, there were all these text messages, and I saw comments on M4s, Wayfair, Wayfair. | ||
Is it true that Wayfair, this online shopping system, was putting out ads for selling children's in armoires? | ||
Well, I guess we'll have to listen to find out. | ||
All right, now let me ask you a real quick question. | ||
Why is this emergency broadcast happening? | ||
Roger got clemency. | ||
All right, so, so far, you have told me there is no Roger. | ||
Nope. | ||
And Alex is talking about Wayfair. | ||
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Yep. | |
I'm not surprised. | ||
I want to be more surprised. | ||
I'm disappointed, of course. | ||
I'm very disappointed. | ||
I was tickled. | ||
But this is exactly what should be happening. | ||
To be honest, I was tickled. | ||
I was like, yeah, you know what? | ||
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It would have been gauche to just have Roger come in. | |
I just love, I can't begin to stress how much I love it whenever Wonks on Twitter or something are like, oh, I can't wait to see what Alex says to this because in my head, all I see, all I hear is just like... | ||
You're looking forward to being disappointed, I guess. | ||
I have no idea what you think is going to happen. | ||
This, to me, is exactly why you can't do an emergency episode. | ||
You've got to wait and see. | ||
Is Alex going to do an emergency show that mysteriously doesn't include an appearance from his best friend, Roger? | ||
Of course! | ||
Weird. | ||
Yeah, he has to just pick up scraps. | ||
Wow. | ||
But I was thinking, you know, Roger's not ready to come on the show until tomorrow on the Sunday broadcast. | ||
He's promised me one of the first interviews. | ||
I know he was up late last night drinking with Man Cow Muller, another one of my longtime friends, and I thought, wait a minute. | ||
Man Cow is still in Florida. | ||
If he's up, I'll call him and get him on the show. | ||
So he and his wife are literally checking out with their children out of the hotel room right now. | ||
They've got no late checkouts. | ||
We've got a quick pop-in from him. | ||
Scraps. | ||
So his argument is basically Stone is too hungover to go on the show. | ||
I mean, that's the most generous version of this. | ||
Yeah, right? | ||
Either that or Stone is still drinking. | ||
I mean, at some point later, Alex does say that Roger wasn't answering his calls. | ||
So it might just be he's too busy with people who... | ||
Matter? | ||
Yeah. | ||
So Man Cow comes in. | ||
And normally... | ||
Man Cow. | ||
Cow. | ||
I am not a fan of Man Cow. | ||
My old friend. | ||
Yes, yes, yes. | ||
It should be. | ||
I famously was a guest on Mancow's show many years back, back when I was doing stand-up. | ||
It was an accident. | ||
I don't know why I was there. | ||
It was one of the more miserable times I've ever had in my life. | ||
Druffke did it on purpose. | ||
I think he's a horrible person. | ||
Oh man, he's a piece of shit. | ||
He's tough to work with, I will say, in a radio setting. | ||
I generally don't care much for his appearances, but this one is kind of funny a little bit because Mancow knows the social dynamic. | ||
Yes. | ||
He just left hanging out with Roger. | ||
Yes. | ||
And Alex is doing a special broadcast about Roger that Roger won't show up on. | ||
Right. | ||
The status imbalance is gigantic. | ||
Astronomical. | ||
Man cow is the king. | ||
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Yeah. | |
And Alex is nothing. | ||
In the pathetic world that they all live in. | ||
And if you're a man cow, you've got to take that opportunity. | ||
Of course. | ||
You've got to feel good. | ||
Waggle a little bit. | ||
So he fucks with Alex a little bit. | ||
Of course. | ||
I want to tell you, first of all, Alex. | ||
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And you're not going to like this. | |
Everybody I talk to, you're next. | ||
You're next, man. | ||
This government does not like you talking. | ||
I'm not talking about Trump. | ||
I'm talking about the deep state. | ||
Boy, do they hate Alex Jones. | ||
And I'll tell you, I'll be there with you. | ||
The Patriots got to stand up. | ||
Does this bother you, what I'm saying, Alex? | ||
Or you already know it. | ||
Oh, I know it, my friend. | ||
I know it. | ||
What are you hearing? | ||
I don't want to make this about me, but what are you hearing? | ||
No, it's just anyone that's a patriot, anyone that believes in God, anyone that believes in the Constitution, you know silly things like this, they're going to get you. | ||
Oh, so you haven't heard anything. | ||
You're just talking shit. | ||
That's pretty solid fucking with Alex. | ||
You know he's going to believe you when you say that shit, so you might as well draw it out. | ||
The dead silence from Alex, too, is like... | ||
Do you know something I don't know? | ||
And Mancow clearly knowing he's full of shit about this? | ||
Fantastic. | ||
It's one of the rare instances, too, where that silence wasn't Alex eating, I don't think. | ||
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Uh-uh. | |
No, no, no. | ||
Alex is hanging on every word. | ||
Oh, you idiot. | ||
So, Mancow cannot stop taking every opportunity to be all about, like, I'm in the middle of this. | ||
I was just hanging out with Roger. | ||
What a dick. | ||
I talked to someone last night, Alex, again. | ||
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Everybody was calling in there. | |
And we're talking political talking heads and famous people. | ||
No, I know. | ||
I should have thought to call you. | ||
Not you, Alex. | ||
He wrote his house for dinner. | ||
I just went ahead and hung out with the kids, but yeah. | ||
I was monopolizing his time, but... | ||
Oh, my God. | ||
You know, when somebody's a consummate dick, 99% of the time, you absolutely hate them. | ||
Oh, totally. | ||
But when they use those powers on another consummate dick, it's fantastic. | ||
Yeah, it's... | ||
It's behavior that can become humorous when you don't care about the recipient of the behavior. | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
So, man-cow's got some sources within the old government. | ||
Right? | ||
So, Mankow's sources say that Trump is beginning to crack under pressure. | ||
Sure. | ||
Right? | ||
Great. | ||
Alex cannot allow that. | ||
Can't hang. | ||
No. | ||
But Mankow also is very high status. | ||
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So it's finally getting to him that, my God, they just don't stop. | |
They're going after his little kids. | ||
They're going after, and they just, God, stop! | ||
And it's finally getting to him, according to three really good sources. | ||
And one major, major source said... | ||
He's losing it. | ||
Man, Cal, that's what I started this special transmission with today, is that there's a stack of news articles, Washington Post, Council on Foreign Relations, all of them saying, we're preparing the military to remove him under the 25th Amendment. | ||
And so they're putting those talking points out that Trump is cracking, and I think a lot of that is hype. | ||
I'm not saying the people around you are wrong, but regardless, this is, as Trump says, if they get through me, they're going to get you. | ||
They're not after me, they're after you. | ||
And so we've got to support the president. | ||
I think I'm going to get on a plane and go to D.C. or to Florida and bullhorn the president's compound again to let him know that we support him. | ||
You're right. | ||
He's all about shiny object. | ||
He is a good American patron. | ||
We've got to let him know we back him right now. | ||
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I was at Mar-a-Lago yesterday. | |
I was at Mar-a-Lago yesterday. | ||
Cannot resist what-upping him. | ||
Just like, I think I'm gonna get on a plane and bowl. | ||
Oh, I was at Mar-a-Lago yesterday. | ||
Oh, that's good. | ||
That's good stuff. | ||
Oh, man cow. | ||
What a prick. | ||
Yeah, unbelievable. | ||
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That's such an asshole thing to do. | |
Yeah. | ||
So, in this next clip, Mancow's joking around. | ||
Apparently, Roger Stone may have said that Mancow is Q or something. | ||
Sure. | ||
I'm not entirely sure. | ||
I'm not sure what he's referencing. | ||
They have a great time. | ||
But this is really fun because Alex has no idea what Mancow is talking about. | ||
This is very confusing. | ||
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Did you see that Roger Stone revealed who Q was? | |
Yes. | ||
Tell folks. | ||
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He said it was me. | |
So the next time I come... | ||
I'm not Q. But the next time I come on, you and I have some serious stuff to talk about. | ||
I love you, brother. | ||
Well, I mean, being in the middle of Roger Stone the last week, you are Q. I mean, we know who started the whole Q thing. | ||
That was very weird. | ||
The right is too good at comedy, Dan. | ||
The weird part is when Mancow says, Roger said who Q is, do you know this? | ||
And Alex says, yes. | ||
When it's clearly something he has no idea of what the fuck Mancow is talking about. | ||
Anyway, I think that Mancow might be a little bit of a Q guy. | ||
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You know about the secret messages? | |
Yes. | ||
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Look it up, folks. | |
Did you hear about Wayfair and all the kids? | ||
Do you know about all the pedophiles that this president is busting up while they keep trying to tie him to Epstein? | ||
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He's the president that ended Epstein. | |
A lot more coming, folks. | ||
Stay strong, Alex. | ||
So, I think that the secret codes and the Wayfair pushing, I think he might be a cute guy. | ||
Hard to say exactly, but I think so. | ||
Wow. | ||
Anyway, in this next clip, Mancow says something that's directly in opposition to what Alex believes. | ||
Right. | ||
We know that Alex has had private, personal conversations with Joe Rogan about how once he gets free and gets on Spotify, he'll be away from YouTube and he'll be able to attack the left. | ||
Absolutely. | ||
That's when he'll get to it. | ||
Now, granted, Joe Rogan has come out and said that that's complete nonsense and Alex is making all that up. | ||
Sure. | ||
Now. | ||
Eric Mancow Muller has a little bit of a different take on this and believes that Joe Rogan sold out. | ||
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Do you realize? | |
You and I have talked about this. | ||
Do you realize? | ||
I mean, we know somebody who just got a big podcast deal by selling out. | ||
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You and I won't sell out. | |
And it's cost us millions. | ||
And folks don't understand. | ||
Oh, Alex Jones, that Mancow. | ||
Yeah, man. | ||
If we wanted to be ass kisses, if we wanted to be owned, God, could we be rich, huh? | ||
But I don't care. | ||
We're going to go down and fight. | ||
We may just save this great country. | ||
Well, my friend, that's what it's all about. | ||
You were smart to take your vacation down there. | ||
You already had it planned. | ||
So, yeah, you were smart to be able to hang out with Roger, I guess, when he's under hazardous. | ||
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Yeah. | |
So, yeah, Joe Rogan is apparently a sellout, according to Mancow. | ||
And he said that he and Alex had talked about this. | ||
Noted, not a sellout, Mancow. | ||
Sure. | ||
I mean... | ||
I will say that the time that I was a guest on his show, I felt like he was really straight up. | ||
He was very straight up. | ||
Very authentic. | ||
He was focused on the issues. | ||
Yes, very much so. | ||
So Man Cow's interview ends. | ||
Tyler Nixon's interview is so pointless that I didn't even cut clips of it. | ||
Why is Tyler Nixon on this broadcast? | ||
Because he's someone in the proximity of Roger Stone and Alex couldn't get Roger. | ||
I know, but you don't even do it if you can't get Roger. | ||
I would suggest that that is what you should have done. | ||
You don't do it. | ||
Well, I think that, you know, you kind of got to make lemons. | ||
Lemonade. | ||
He was like, yeah, I could talk about Wayfair. | ||
It seems to be a hot topic. | ||
Maybe we could drive some traffic. | ||
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Sure, sure. | |
I know. | ||
But, I mean, it just makes you look really weak and sad. | ||
Well, you can still get eyes on this thing because you do have an association with Rogers. | ||
There's an expectation that you would have something going on. | ||
Right, right, right. | ||
You got Man Cow. | ||
He's kind of a star. | ||
You get to talk about Wayfair. | ||
Maybe you could do some ads. | ||
Make a little money. | ||
Yeah, I guess. | ||
It's that or stay at home on a Saturday. | ||
Not long-term thinking. | ||
Well, anyway, Alex is really mad because it turns out that some of the people who supply the things that go into his dumb pills maybe aren't going to be able to supply him anymore. | ||
We have quite a few products we can't even get anymore. | ||
People are like, where's my favorite product? | ||
Where's this one? | ||
They were good sellers. | ||
We can't get them! | ||
It's shutting down! | ||
My God! | ||
Excuse me, I'm getting pissed now. | ||
You know, you already know what's going on with the COVID stuff, and I promised the family I'd get back by, you know, four or five today, so let's just, I gotta do this. | ||
Let's do the COVID, then I'll come back into the Wayfair, which I know I'm right about it, and people are gonna get pissed at me, and I just, I don't care. | ||
I'm gonna tell you the truth. | ||
So, we know that he's gonna tell the truth about this, the Wayfair situation. | ||
Sure, sure. | ||
Which is that it was a... | ||
Well, so the conspiracy that's going around on QAnon and on the internet is that there are some suspiciously high-priced cabinets that have the names of people. | ||
They have people names. | ||
And so these folks online have decided that they must be selling children in those cabinets. | ||
And they have no evidence of this and it's a lot of bullshit. | ||
Now, a very serious question here. | ||
Yes. | ||
They think that because they believe that is a smart idea? | ||
They think that because they're confused about why the price is so high. | ||
That's as best I can tell. | ||
No, I know, but you ascribe to your enemy some sort of competence, so they think that it would be a smart idea if you were one of these people selling children. | ||
I think that a lot of people get their ideas and thinking poisoned by the concept of hiding in plain sight. | ||
You get that into your head, and you start to think, oh, it would be the perfect place to do it. | ||
Right. | ||
No one would buy a $12,000 thing, so if you did, obviously you would be the person who knows to look for the child there. | ||
Wow. | ||
Yeah, it's a bit. | ||
They're great. | ||
Yeah. | ||
So Alex knows the truth about it, and he's, you know, a lot of people want to know what's up. | ||
And we are back on this Saturday afternoon emergency transmission. | ||
Without Roger Stone. | ||
And I have never had... | ||
So many people reaching out to me, friends, family, neighbors, emails, text messages, comments on Infowars, wanting to know about Wayfair. | ||
And I know Army commandos and CIA operatives and FBI agents that have been contacting me and others who think this is real. | ||
Uh-oh. | ||
They should be fired. | ||
How incredibly, obviously weird it is. | ||
It's very weird. | ||
It's very weird, and that's the threshold of proof for a lot of people that Alex associates with. | ||
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That's all you need. | |
That's all you need. | ||
Cool. | ||
So, Alex begins... | ||
He already said that he knows the truth about this. | ||
Yes, we've revealed it, which is... | ||
Well, he knows the truth. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
That's important. | ||
Yes. | ||
Because he now says he doesn't know what's up. | ||
Okay. | ||
Now, that said, I'm not sure exactly what's going on here. | ||
But I have a pretty good idea. | ||
This is one of three things. | ||
So, there's three possibilities. | ||
But you can't... | ||
He knows the truth. | ||
He knows the truth. | ||
He doesn't know what's up. | ||
But it's one of these three things. | ||
Why don't words mean things anymore? | ||
I used to like words. | ||
Here are the three possibilities. | ||
Here's the first one. | ||
Either it's a money laundering operation, and so they had these numbers, and what would be in the cabinet would be drugs or something, or you're paying more for something because you're using drug money to pay for it. | ||
That goes on all over the place. | ||
Online, it's happening every millisecond. | ||
Okay? | ||
Where you've got a $100 cabinet, a $200 cabinet. | ||
I've actually bought cabinets like these. | ||
That you add a couple zeros to or whatever, and now it is $12,000, $13,000, $14,000. | ||
Is Alex implying that he's laundered money? | ||
He's bought $12,000, $13,000 cabinets? | ||
To launder money? | ||
To launder money? | ||
Seems weird. | ||
He should have phrased that better. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Sounds suspicious. | ||
So that's the first option. | ||
Sure. | ||
Here's the second. | ||
So it's either money laundering, or it is the big mistake they said, and some fool added zeros to it. | ||
That's not what they said. | ||
That's the second option. | ||
So maybe I just added zeros. | ||
Okay, so massive conspiracy to launder money. | ||
Yes. | ||
Could be an oopsie. | ||
Could be. | ||
Option three. | ||
Or is it really that they're advertising this as a package, a container, symbolizing they're going to deliver you a child drugged up in one of these cabins? | ||
I said there's three things. | ||
Because that's the three things people are going to debate and say. | ||
So, these are the three options. | ||
What do you think he's going to go with? | ||
Money laundering? | ||
Big old oopsie? | ||
Selling kids in cabinets? | ||
I'm going to have to go with he's going to say this is the big one and we've caught him. | ||
That's an interesting possibility, but unfortunately it's a trick question. | ||
But there's a fourth. | ||
God damn it! | ||
I said there was a fourth! | ||
Okay. | ||
Alright. | ||
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Fine. | |
Think about that. | ||
No, I refuse. | ||
And you see, I've experienced the fourth. | ||
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Yes, you have. | |
And so I believe this is the fourth from all the evidence and how outrageous it is and how obvious it is and how it's designed and meant. | ||
Like when you put a big old juicy nightcrawler worm on the end of a hook and drop it in there for the bass or the perch or the crappie. | ||
False flag. | ||
Because it smells good, it's wiggling around, they're going to want to take a bite out of it. | ||
Yeah, so the fourth option is it's a trap. | ||
It's a false flag. | ||
Yeah, the globalists have created this in order for conspiracy theorists or whatever to find and amplify as a trap in order to invalidate other stories about crimes against children. | ||
I mean, whatever. | ||
This is ludicrous. | ||
I feel really frustrated with that thought process. | ||
Yeah, no, it's frustrating. | ||
Because if you think that that's what it... | ||
Okay. | ||
Here's what the globalists need to trap you. | ||
Uh-huh. | ||
Nothing. | ||
Hmm. | ||
You're saying to all of your conspiracy laden friends... | ||
That the globalists don't even need to work hard to get you guys to believe stupid shit. | ||
Well, I mean, it was the same thing with his rationalization for the stuff about Obama's birth certificate, the birtherism. | ||
Sure. | ||
It's like the globalists put out the Kenyan birth certificate because they knew that the right wing was racist. | ||
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Right. | |
They would say that he was born in Kenya, when in reality, he was the child of the communist pornographer. | ||
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You're just admitting you're all so fucking stupid that you're willing to make conspiracy out of anything. | |
Yeah, you'll fall for anything. | ||
You'll fall for anything. | ||
That's a huge insult, right? | ||
I guess, yeah. | ||
So Alex believes there's this fourth option, and that is this is a trap. | ||
It's a honeypot or whatever. | ||
I think that he's not considering a fifth option, and that is that the people who make up the large bulk of his audience are not very good at discerning information. | ||
Not good at critical thinking, and they're going to Pizzagate all over again. | ||
Naturally. | ||
When you look at this, It's not just that they added zeros to it. | ||
It's not money laundering, it looks like, because it's the names of girls. | ||
And it's not like they have three cabinets or 20 cabinets. | ||
It's all these products named after little girls, and a bunch of them are really weird names that are actual missing kidnapped children on the backs of milk cartons and in your internet warnings. | ||
Now, why in the hell would they put out ads? | ||
To really deliver you children in cabinets and then put the actual names of kids on this. | ||
This is one thing and one thing only. | ||
I do... | ||
Conditionally admire Alex saying, why would they do this? | ||
At least even Alex can be like, this is stupid. | ||
Unacceptable. | ||
Unacceptable to me. | ||
Unacceptable to me. | ||
The moment you add in the fact that you can think to yourself, this would be a dumb thing for someone to do. | ||
But it's all invalid. | ||
But honestly, it's only because Alex got embarrassed so badly with Pizzagate. | ||
That's the only reason that he's behaving like this. | ||
Well, see, now you're adding in that he can learn? | ||
That's really bummer, too. | ||
Wow, but that's just because it was dangerous. | ||
That guy showed up with a gun there. | ||
That's true. | ||
And if he did this stuff again, that's too traceable. | ||
Yeah. | ||
He needs to be on the right side of this in case it does break that direction. | ||
Yeah, yeah. | ||
He knows that, and that's why this whole conversation largely is like, hey, remember what happened with Pizzagate? | ||
Sure. | ||
And then him trying to pretend he didn't behave. | ||
He never had anything to do with it. | ||
You remember all of this. | ||
It was... | ||
Top story on Drudge, top story all over the place. | ||
Now, this broke for about a week or two, and then suddenly, out of the Podestas and out of the Democratic Party, CNN, the New York Times, the Washington Post, all the same morning, came out and said, wow, bizarre claims that a pizza place has a dungeon under it. | ||
And that they're killing kids and selling them, and they've got all these things out that look pedophilic. | ||
And look at these other businesses they do as well, and it turned out some of the stuff was really creepy and weird. | ||
And then we had Jack Posobiec interviewed about how creepy it was there, and we covered this a bunch, and they told people they needed to check it out, and it's really suspicious. | ||
We've got to check out their menu. | ||
It's fucking crazy. | ||
I'm going to get on a plane and go to D.C. myself to check this out. | ||
You can't prove that I said that. | ||
There's no person who has recordings of those things. | ||
Right. | ||
Alex has tried to delete them from the internet, but they're still there. | ||
Obviously, the argument that he's trying to make is that the Podesta emails and all these WikiLeaks things came out and they had a real code about trafficking people. | ||
And then the whole thing with Pizzagate ended up just being a distraction from the real things. | ||
And now that Ghislaine Maxwell, who he still hasn't figured out how to pronounce her name, has been arrested. | ||
This is in order to cover up that. | ||
As opposed to possibly just mass delusions. | ||
People who feed into each other's internet behaviors, they go on these vicarious hunts where they think that they're doing something. | ||
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They're sleuths. | |
Yeah, exactly. | ||
I think that that's a much easier explanation, because that's exactly what happened with Pizzagate. | ||
I watched Pizzagate happen in real time. | ||
I was on those Reddit conspiracy boards where people were... | ||
Like, coming up with new pieces of information, and then some of it gets rejected, some of it, like, people explore more, and then, like, a couple days later, someone's like, remember three days ago someone said this, and we ignored it, and then they'll bring it back in. | ||
Like, I watched that happen in real time. | ||
This is a game, man. | ||
Right, but the thing with Wayfair, that stuff happened much quicker. | ||
Yeah. | ||
That broke... | ||
Well, we're primed for it now, you know. | ||
We've all got the playbook at our fingertips. | ||
And there are enough people who have such low standards for bringing things to the public's attention in QAnon accounts that can amplify things really effectively that you can go from nothing to, oh god, so fast. | ||
So fast. | ||
Now, here's what's really funny. | ||
Roger Stone isn't on this show? | ||
That is pretty funny. | ||
That's very funny. | ||
Alex wants you to believe that he did nothing with Pizzagate, and he knew it looked bad from the beginning. | ||
He was so smart. | ||
And so in this next clip, he throws his staff under the bus. | ||
Oh, no! | ||
That's what you get for not getting the Skype calls right! | ||
You're Pizzagate! | ||
Yeah. | ||
He's like, they did that. | ||
And then... | ||
He alleges, with no proof, that CNN people were the ones who were posting this stuff on Fortune in order to get Pizzagate going in the first place. | ||
So I'm sitting there, and I say, I'm going on vacation for a week to Cancun. | ||
Stop covering it. | ||
I smell a rat. | ||
They're diverting us to this off of that. | ||
They didn't stop. | ||
I love the crew. | ||
And that's then how the media got us and said that we created a fake story, and they used that not being accurate. | ||
Even though we didn't create it, CNN, MSNBC, no doubt, their operatives put it on 4chan, 8chan. | ||
That disinformation's there. | ||
Then we cover it. | ||
Then they flip it when we broke the big spirit cooking. | ||
We were the first to get it out and try to post it. | ||
So you're proud. | ||
And they turn with alchemy. | ||
From the real kids and the real farmhouses and the real $65,000 of hot dogs and the blood and the semen and the breast milk and the Aleister Crowley and the devil worship and all these photos and videos of little kids all scared and women dressed like witches and big vats of blood and Maria Brevanovich and her in Reddit posts saying, yeah, I do rituals for real. | ||
And all of that got distracted by the media then focusing in on there was no basement in the pizza place. | ||
Right, but you did that too. | ||
You weren't in Cancun. | ||
Well, maybe you were in Cancun, but you still engaged in this stuff. | ||
You can pretend all you want, but it's nonsense. | ||
That's pathetic. | ||
But because of how embarrassing that whole thing was, and how much, I guess, Alex took a hit on it, and probably felt exposed. | ||
Yeah, he must have gotten more something than we expected. | ||
Well, I mean, it's one of those times that he had to give a big public apology to James Oliphantus. | ||
That's true. | ||
And so there's a decent chance that he just thought, like, fuck. | ||
Too close. | ||
Too close on this one. | ||
And that might be why he learned his lesson. | ||
But he didn't learn it all the way. | ||
So he... | ||
It's not just Ghislaine Maxwell getting arrested. | ||
It's also all of these stories that he's been talking about out of Germany. | ||
For some reference, there are two stories out of Germany that Alex has been covering. | ||
One of them has to do with, in the past, there were homeless children who were given to foster parents who were known to be pedophiles. | ||
This is horrifying, and the studies of it and the reporting on it is unclear the scope to which this was taking place, but it does not appear to be what you'd call a widespread. | ||
Not that that makes it any better. | ||
Still horrifying. | ||
Yeah, no qualifications. | ||
Fuck it. | ||
And the other story is about a soldier who was arrested fairly recently, I believe at the end of last year. | ||
An investigation surrounding him has led to the uncovering of an online child pornography sharing network that does involve some crimes against children. | ||
And there were 30,000 leads that the police had to go on. | ||
And so Alex has those two stories. | ||
And I believe... | ||
His intention is to say that this Wayfair story is trying to somehow block that. | ||
Distract from the... | ||
Right. | ||
Gotcha. | ||
That story. | ||
But he's treating those two stories as kind of the same story, even though they're not the same story at all. | ||
It's really complicated, but the way he starts talking about this stuff in this next clip really kind of brought into focus something I found really disturbing about Alex's thought patterns. | ||
As I went into that article earlier. | ||
Just type in, German psychiatrist, German government gave children to pedophiles. | ||
And of course, they first reported, oh, it was just a few thousand in one town. | ||
Then it turned out it was a spiderweb all over the country. | ||
See how they limited that as well. | ||
It's dw.com as well. | ||
Okay, just boom. | ||
So again, ladies and gentlemen, let's put that back on screen, please. | ||
Understand what's going on. | ||
The week that broke, I said, watch, next week it'll break that tens of thousands of children are involved. | ||
Exactly as I said, it broke. | ||
Why? | ||
I read a British psychological warfare manual that just so happened to be being sold that I bought at Barnes& Noble like 20 years ago. | ||
They talked about their techniques after World War II in Africa, and they said, if one of our corporations kills, say, 5,000 villagers, we need to get out ahead of it and say they killed 20 and put out our fake story, so that when it comes out it's 5,000, people will average it together in their mind. | ||
So, because the head psychiatrist over CPS in Berlin was sending thousands of children to pedophiles, they first reported on his case and not how it was much larger, titrating the dose, preparing you for what was about to come out. | ||
Now you understand how the enemy operates. | ||
So, that's what this is. | ||
I can still find no evidence to support the claims that Alex is making in that clip. | ||
Exaggerating the reporting on the fact that the foster care assistant Again, to stress that point, any number of children is unacceptable. | ||
I'm only pointing out that Alex appears to just be making up information to help his narratives be more sensational. | ||
Like I said, what's going on here is he's combining two unrelated stories out of Germany that we've covered. | ||
The first is about those homeless youths being placed in foster care with pedophiles. | ||
And the second story is about the 30,000 leads that the police have with the modern-day network of that. | ||
So it's wrong to minimize this kind of thing at all. | ||
But it's equally wrong to sensationalize it. | ||
The prior story, the one about the foster care system, is the one that Alex wants to talk about. | ||
And the second story includes the number 30,000, which Alex likes. | ||
He wants to amplify. | ||
So Alex has just combined them into being about the same thing when they're not. | ||
That being said, the real reason that I pulled this clip is because of how clearly it demonstrates a flaw in Alex's thinking patterns. | ||
He believes that everything is psych warfare. | ||
So he's gotten himself into a very bizarre mode where he's essentially given himself permission to lie about everything. | ||
Because he's rationalized that the thing that he's lying about is just psych warfare to begin with. | ||
Let's take this specific example. | ||
Alex is lying about reporting about the German foster care story, but he doesn't see it as lying, because he believes that the original reporting is just the globalists getting ahead of the story in order to soften the blow when the real story comes out. | ||
Another story justifying his embellishment has not come out, but an unrelated story about a similar topic has, so he's just good enough and he's claimed a victory about everything. | ||
This kind of thought pattern goes a long way towards explaining why Alex can't report a straight version of any story. | ||
He can't stick to reality, and it's nearly impossible for him to not exaggerate details to fit his narratives. | ||
That's because he thinks reality that is being reported is just psych warfare. | ||
So when he exaggerates a story, he thinks that what he's doing is just compensating the story match up with actual reality. | ||
In fact, what he's doing is making things up and lying, but he doesn't experience it that way. | ||
If that last clip at all accurately expresses Alex's beliefs, then it would be fair to say that his version of truth could be described as lying about things you think are lies. | ||
Yep. | ||
That, to me, is really eye-opening. | ||
Yeah. | ||
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Because... | |
Just making it up. | ||
Because the story's a lie to begin with. | ||
Right, of course. | ||
So what he's saying is that the Wayfair situation is a hoax to distract from the... | ||
Two situations that he has conflated into its own hoax that will distract from the actual individual circumstances that both stories are not dealing with whatsoever. | ||
And Ghislaine Maxwell somehow. | ||
And Ghislaine Maxwell somehow. | ||
And all of this is fine, because sometimes the globalists are lying to you, and sometimes they're not, because of course I can quote New York Times and all of those things whenever they match up with what I think they should. | ||
But, if they don't... | ||
Psych warfare. | ||
Exactly. | ||
Everything that disagrees with what I believe is lies to me and everyone else. | ||
When it's convenient, this story is psych warfare, so I can lie to adjust to compensate for whatever I believe the psych warfare is. | ||
In whatever direction I want. | ||
And that is me depicting reality, as opposed to what it actually is in lying. | ||
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Yeah. | |
So, I think that's interesting, and it kind of... | ||
I don't want to say it gives me closure, but it definitely gives me a better understanding of why he's such a liar and why he doesn't think he's such a liar. | ||
Because if you believe what he's saying there, if he actually believes that about what he does and how information works, you could justify coming up with any story you want and then just being like, no, this is the truth. | ||
That story is the whitewash. | ||
That's the fake version of the story. | ||
I've made up a number that feels right based on me calling this a whitewash. | ||
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Right. | |
And it explains a large swath of his behavior. | ||
Wow. | ||
It's a bummer. | ||
And the thing about that is, by no means do I experience any empathy for him in this way, but what that is essentially saying is that I will never accept good news because it doesn't conform to my version of reality. | ||
Do you know what I mean? | ||
Like, everything that provides good and joy he lies about in order to facilitate the continuation of this globalist conspiracy. | ||
And he amplifies every negative news source as long as it helps with his conspiracy theory. | ||
And any real news is negative because it helps with his conspiracy theory. | ||
And so at any and all times, he is experiencing nothing but panic, fear, and rage. | ||
If he actually is, then yeah. | ||
If he actually is, then yeah. | ||
He's torturing himself. | ||
Right. | ||
I'm less concerned with that. | ||
No, no. | ||
I'm not at all concerned with that. | ||
I'm just trying to feel like it. | ||
There's an empathy I can extend to his loved ones and the people around him. | ||
Totally. | ||
My empathy goes far more to the people who listen to him and believe him. | ||
Oh, absolutely. | ||
How can you listen to this guy and take it seriously when he's... | ||
Clearly expressing to you that, yeah, I read news stories and then I just make up stuff because it's like warfare. | ||
That's ridiculous. | ||
It's really sad. | ||
The people who believe him and follow this stuff have just unknowingly essentially been tricked into a cult of Alex. | ||
It's just whatever he interprets and experiences as true is presented as truth and he will harangue you with References to arcane and obscure documents you haven't read, and he hasn't either, in order to justify his positions, and it's all just a fucking parlor trick. | ||
It's ridiculous. | ||
It's very sad. | ||
It's very sad. | ||
It's really sad. | ||
Well, for the people who believe it. | ||
Yes. | ||
It's sad for Alex, ultimately, because this legacy doesn't hold up. | ||
No. | ||
Let's say we survive the current troubles we're in. | ||
His history doesn't go down well. | ||
In the same way that we can look back on the John Birch Society and all right-thinking people can be like, they were anti-communist lunatics. | ||
They were way out of line. | ||
Alex's legacy is going to be similar. | ||
What he has done with his life, his life's work, will look like shit. | ||
And that kind of sucks, but I don't think he cares. | ||
Yeah, I mean, you know, in the same way that his listeners are victims and participants in their own kind of miserable existence, Alex is visiting upon them and himself. | ||
It's unfortunate. | ||
He's torturing everyone in proximity to him. | ||
So I told you that... | ||
Including me! | ||
I told you that there was a conditional aspect to me saying that Alex was like, wow, at least he can even see through this would be stupid. | ||
This way fair conspiracy. | ||
Now, the reason it's conditional is because he's about to say that it may be true. | ||
The globalists have put out this disinformation because they know this is massive. | ||
This is the zeitgeist. | ||
People now understand it. | ||
And they hope when it comes out this isn't true, it'll somehow discredit it all. | ||
I actually believe this will blow up in their face like Pizzagate did. | ||
What? | ||
And people will see through all this and understand what's going on. | ||
Now, could it be they're really money laundering? | ||
Could it be that they're actually, these are real ads? | ||
Who knows? | ||
They might be that bold in really doing it. | ||
Could it be that it's an honest mistake and more zeros were added? | ||
I don't believe so, because they're all named after little girls, a bunch of them missing little girls, to make everybody go crazy! | ||
So, he is saying that it's globalist disinformation, but also maybe it's money laundering? | ||
Weird. | ||
I know. | ||
For a fact. | ||
Yes, it's globalist disinformation. | ||
It's globalist disinformation. | ||
Now, it may be the other things. | ||
How could it be both? | ||
How could it even be possible that it's money laundering if it's an intentional plan by the globalists to make your side look bad and make it look like... | ||
Alright, Dan. | ||
It's like in chess when you've got a pin, right? | ||
I don't know. | ||
Is the German like Zufzwang or whatever it is? | ||
I don't know. | ||
But it's like whatever move your enemy makes, you get to take one of their pieces no matter what happens. | ||
So this is why if you are laundering money, you both actually launder money and also make it look like you're not laundering money. | ||
Unless somebody figures out that you're laundering money, in which case it will blow up in your face, just like Pizzagate blew up in their faces. | ||
Definitely no one else's face did Pizzagate blow up in. | ||
Yeah, but I will say, and this is convoluted and stupid, there's no way. | ||
I appreciate your attempt to stretch this in a way that makes sense. | ||
Credulity. | ||
You just can't. | ||
No, not possible. | ||
But at least Alex is pretty clear that this is a stupid way to try and deliver traffic to children. | ||
Do you really think that a group like this would ship thousands of kids around in containers, not knowing a truck's going to wreck or one's going to fall open or the kid's going to die in one? | ||
No, folks. | ||
No, it's not true. | ||
It's not real. | ||
That's why they are doing all of this. | ||
They didn't make typos on hundreds and hundreds of items. | ||
We're going over right now. | ||
I'll have more tomorrow. | ||
This was done as bait, and they used names of real children that are missing. | ||
And to make people take the bait and say, oh my god, this is real. | ||
So, this is bait. | ||
This is bait. | ||
It's the globalists putting out this honey trap. | ||
It's bait. | ||
Now, that would make this next clip tough to hear, which he says almost immediately after. | ||
Because it is coming out. | ||
They can't hide it. | ||
The system doesn't know what to do. | ||
So, I've been set up like this. | ||
And they didn't completely defeat me. | ||
We figured it out and turned it around on them. | ||
Did ya? | ||
But this is meant to discredit the real work that police are engaged in, in my view. | ||
And maybe you disagree with me. | ||
Comment in the comments below. | ||
But if the globalists have gotten bold enough, and maybe I'm wrong, to ship kids actually in containers like this, psychos, when they don't get caught for a while and get away with it, a lot of them go crazy, even crazier, and start wanting to get caught. | ||
And who the hell knows anymore. | ||
I mean, this is just unbelievable. | ||
But know this. | ||
This was not an accident that they used a bunch of little girls' names and some of them missing girls. | ||
Complete with first and last names. | ||
That is not. | ||
This was done to bait you away from all the other real stuff. | ||
Infowars.com, Newswars.com, tomorrow's news today. | ||
That's the end of his special report. | ||
This is not how you do this. | ||
This is not good. | ||
Because he's clearly... | ||
Clearly articulating his position that this is bait. | ||
This is to try and sucker people into going down this rabbit hole or whatever. | ||
And then right at the end, he's like, maybe, I don't know, maybe the globalists are sending out kids in these containers. | ||
Why are you doing that? | ||
If you know that that's ludicrous and bait, why are you making the bait possibly attractive to your audience? | ||
What are you doing? | ||
I think it's because he hates me. | ||
I've decided, honestly, I'm full on solipsis now. | ||
I am the only person that exists and Alex is here because he hates me. | ||
I know. | ||
This is insane. | ||
I can counter your argument. | ||
I don't know. | ||
You wouldn't believe me. | ||
Yes! | ||
But things that happen when you're not here. | ||
It's a hoax. | ||
Oh my god. | ||
How can you even... | ||
He's got a knife. | ||
Ladies and gentlemen, he's got a knife. | ||
Oh no, he's coming towards me. | ||
How can you turn this somehow into you being the victim? | ||
That's a good point. | ||
Yeah, that is a good thought. | ||
It does seem like he does that a lot. | ||
A bunch of random people found some random bullshit on Wayfair, and I'm the victim of this. | ||
This is targeted at me. | ||
Clearly. | ||
These QAnon folks who are posting all of these... | ||
These Wayfair conspiracies. | ||
It's really just an attempt by the globalists to entrap me into covering this in order to delegitimize my already sterling, remarkable, unimpeachable record. | ||
Which I will then defeat them by revealing that it's a hoax while also leaving the possibility open that, hey, they might be doing it. | ||
Yeah, hey, I don't want to fully close the door on this just in case I realize that it could be profitable. | ||
What the fuck? | ||
The thing about the honey trap, Dan. | ||
There is honey in it. | ||
And I like honey. | ||
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So I'm going to pull my hand in there. | |
A little bit of honey. | ||
Yeah. | ||
What the fuck? | ||
I don't know. | ||
I constantly am left with a feeling of bewilderment at him. | ||
Because, first of all, here we go. | ||
This whole thing is supposed to be like, Roger. | ||
Yes, I do recall this being the day that Roger... | ||
It is a profound statement that Roger Stone didn't show up the next day on Infowars when Alex did an emergency broadcast about him getting clemency. | ||
That cannot be overstated. | ||
The idea that Man Cow was at the same hotel where Roger Stone theoretically was. | ||
You got it. | ||
And was in his vicinity and didn't give him the phone. | ||
Hey, do you want to talk to Alex real quick? | ||
The fact that all of that happened is... | ||
It demonstrates Alex's relative position to other folks. | ||
And then this Wayfair stuff is real shitty. | ||
Real shitty. | ||
Man, I just... | ||
It's just such a bummer. | ||
I would love it if Alex had the backbone that it took to just be like, Fuck you, Roger. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Fuck you. | ||
That would be nice. | ||
You're done. | ||
That would be nice. | ||
I've... | ||
I debase myself for you to the point where I've lost my entire business. | ||
I'm going down. | ||
My life is a shambles. | ||
Now, do I have a lot to do with that? | ||
Totally. | ||
The least Roger could do is show up. | ||
All you have to do is show up. | ||
Just say, thanks, Alex, for all you've done. | ||
Give me a thank you. | ||
And then say, oh, I gotta go. | ||
Or I'm not feeling well. | ||
Or, hey, I was celebrating so much, I'm hungover. | ||
I'm hungover. | ||
And everyone who's listening to the show would be like, fuck yeah you are. | ||
You just got out of prison, buddy. | ||
You get shit-faced. | ||
Alex, all you need to do is get a thank you, and Roger didn't give you the thank you, so cut ties forever. | ||
Fuck him! | ||
Well, it's too early, as we're recording this on Sunday, to know if he was actually on Sunday, although I assume he probably was. | ||
Probably. | ||
But still, that's a day and a half after. | ||
That's too long. | ||
Nope. | ||
That's too long. | ||
Uh-uh, you got rat-fucked like we told you you would. | ||
Probably. | ||
God damn it, I hate it. | ||
Yep, and I hate that we had to listen to Man Cow, but it is what it is. | ||
Anyway, we'll be back, Jordan. | ||
But until then, we have a website. | ||
We do have a website. | ||
It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
We're also on Twitter. | ||
We are on Twitter. | ||
It's at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
And I go to bed, Jordan. | ||
We're also on Facebook. | ||
We are on Facebook. | ||
But if you would like, please find a bail fund or charity in your area that will help take care of people who need it. | ||
Yeah, we'll be back. | ||
But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
I'm Leo. | ||
I'm DZX Clark. | ||
I really want to know what that Bohemian Grove news was. | ||
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
I love your work. |