Anthony Zender’s wild claims—CIA’s Operation Green Star abducting children for eugenics, his grandfather designing the SR-71 (debunked by Kelly Johnson’s memoirs), and secret "super soldier" missions against Nordic aliens—mirror QAnon fantasies like Disclosure, NASARA, and RFK Jr.’s anti-vaccine ties. His assertions, including COVID-19 test fraud and JFK Jr.’s alleged "inside role," align with Alex Jones’ conspiracy playbook, blending recovered memories (e.g., Ramtha cult) with debunked theories like Saint Germain’s Grand Jubilee. Even his MMA/boxing background fails to justify interdimensional combat, exposing how Knowledge Fight and Cassidy’s interviews amplify harmful, cult-like narratives under the guise of truth. [Automatically generated summary]
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Yeah, so we had some highs and some lows in this installment of the Year of the Seltzer, but that's to be expected, and I'm glad, because, you know, just middle-of-the-road stuff, maybe not all that exciting.
So, Jordan, today, what we've got going is I was looking over our episodes, and I realized that it's been like ten episodes straight that we've been in the present day of Alex.
I don't know what is going on in his world, but he doesn't seem like some of these people on Project Camelot that I'd be like, I'm not even touching this.
I still have a lot of empathy for him, and I would...
I prefer to err on the side of not beating up on him.
Generally speaking, if somebody with PTSD is saying something along those lines, I view it less as them and more as a complete failure of any kind of support structure for them to kind of process this stuff.
It's good to be on the show, and I had that planned anyway because definitely understanding what a super soldier is is part of the truth coming out, which is all coming out right now.
And basically, in my life, as a child, I was abducted by the government at six years old.
And that was in what is called Operation Green Star.
And that is a CIA operation that abducts children.
I can't even find much evidence of it in conspiracy forums or anything, but it is the actual name that at least one government has used for projects a bit in the past.
That's the Papua New Guinea, where the PNG Defense Forces used that operation name to do things like in 2019, when they cracked down on immigrants suspected of job hopping.
The head of that operation, Lieutenant Colonel Nelson Rapola, told the New Zealand Post Courier that, quote, the operation aimed to restore the state's presence, provide community health care, and evangelize the word of God.
Earlier in 2018, Operation Green Star had made news in the Post Courier again as they had seized 17 illegal air guns that were believed to have been, quote, smuggled across the border from Indonesia and used for poaching and local violence.
No word on if those guns were taken for evangelical purposes, however.
In 2013, a separate Operation Green Star made headlines in India when they confiscated illegal plastic items that were in violation of their Environment Protection Act.
In North America, Operation Green Star was the name that was given to a clothes and books drive where people could donate to, quote, help those less fortunate than ourselves in 1967 at the University of Montreal.
The treaty with the breakaway civilization was letting them abduct children with the genetics to turn them into super soldiers, which is what happened to me when I came in because of my genetic traits.
The breakaway civilization may as well be called the globalists.
That's a term that Alex used to describe his enemies all the time.
The breakaway civilization.
So they're the bad guys in this scenario.
The CIA is clearly part of their operation since they were running Green Star, which means that the creation of the secret super soldiers was something that was being done for evil ends.
This must mean that Anthony is an evil creation and that all of the super soldier exploits he's been doing are directed by the bad guys, which is an interesting wrinkle if you really think about it.
Unless there's some kind of a narrative about the good guys taking control of the secret super soldier program, I have to conclude that he's an instrument of the dark side.
But if Frankenstein's monster was created by an explicitly evil Dr. Frankenstein who was then sending him off on missions, you would assume that he was an instrument of the evil that is Dr. Frankenstein.
Well, I mean, this is just an analog of that whole idea of Eisenhower signing a treaty with the aliens that the Greys could kidnap people for research and stuff.
It's all just sort of the same.
There.
So one thing that's important to recognize is that when he was taken by Operation Green Star, there were augmentations that were done to him at the age of six.
So since then, he's been some sort of a super soldier.
So if Anthony is saying that his grandfather designed the SR-71 aircraft, then he's definitely claiming that his grandfather is Kelly Johnson, because that's who did that.
This claim initially appears to be a good play, but upon closer examination, you find that it's really dumb and it's actually impossible.
The reason it looks good at first is that Johnson was married three times, so you have three possible lineages to claim.
This offers so many more possibilities for making claims of parentage as opposed to someone who was only married once, but if you read up on Kelly Johnson's life, you'll quickly learn that this is no good.
Johnson released his memoirs in 1985, titled More Than My Share of It All.
And in it, he discusses the heartache of being twice widowed and never having children.
Kelly Johnson, the designer of the SR-71, had no children and therefore cannot be anyone's grandfather.
This story that Anthony is telling has no basis in reality, and if he wants to make these sort of claims credibly, he's going to need some really solid evidence past just saying it to a woman who believes literally anything anyone tells her.
Well, obviously he could have gone back in time through a previous Super Soldier program that we are obviously aware of.
But what if it's all a cover-up and Kelly Johnson didn't even design that shit and it's actually Zender's grandfather who did it, but they had to get rid of him because his genetics were too good for the Super Soldier program.
Because in this time, it was obviously seen that there were People are going to want answers about what's going on, and I do have the knowledge to be able to provide that.
I've been involved in a lot of missions lately, and in these missions, not only am I doing black operations, but I'm also involved in talking to heads of executive of state.
And all these things that are going on because what is going on right now is the cabal is getting taken down.
In terms of all of that, Anthony, do you have any specifics in terms of what you know about the takedown, what you know about the arrests, rather than generalities?
When you get these memories, are you getting them because in sort of a sleep situation, in a meditation situation, or can it just bleed through during the day?
So, I mean, you can have vivid dreams, and there are phenomena that happen in your dreams where you can have pretty intricate storylines that go through dreams.
One of the movies, actually that's a disclosure movie that's out right now, is called Bloodshot.
And that's a new movie with Vin Diesel in it.
And the whole thing is about what a super soldier is and how they do memory manipulation and memory erasal to basically keep reusing the super soldier over and over and over and over again.
And another thing, another disclosure show is the Dolphins.
But when you hear it coming from this guy who's claiming to be a secret super soldier talking to Carrie, it kind of puts into better light the behavior that Alex Jones manifests.
But one of the missions that I recalled just recently was I was, because I'm always infiltrated into the dark side.
You know what I'm saying?
Into the dark corporations, which are, people don't know this, but, which are Monarch, Mobius, Umbrella, Massive Dynamics.
And ultimate.
And these are all corporations that are interdimensional.
And one of the missions I recall was because right now what is going on is the COVID virus is basically a biochemical AI weapon that's been employed interdimensionally.
I'm recalling Mission where I'm involved in getting information about what's going on.
Now, I should tell you that Monarch is the name of the fictional corporation that was set up to try to kill Godzilla in the modern Godzilla franchise, including 2014's Godzilla, 2019's Godzilla King of Monsters, and the upcoming Godzilla vs.
Kong.
It also factored into the 2017 King Kong movie Skull Island.
The Mobius Corporation is the name of the evil company in the video game The Evil Within, which was a survival horror follow-up from Resident Evil creator Shinji Mikami, with the first one released in 2014 and a sequel in 2017.
Umbrella, of course, is the evil company in the Resident Evil series.
Massive Dynamic was the company founded by Leonard Nimoy's character in the Fox drama Fringe.
Which was kind of the looming specter of evil for the protagonists in the film.
And, you know, one of the most recent memories was I was obviously in one of these corporations that are linked with DARPA.
You know, they are linked with DARPA in this reality.
But I was involved in being involved in the mission there, and I had to escape, and I was getting shot at, and I had to get into an elevator, and the elevator door closed, and there were all sorts of bullets riddling through the elevator door, and I had to take cover against the wall in the elevator door, and then they cut the cord to the elevator.
And then I fell like 100 stories or something because I was in a skyscraper.
Sure.
And basically the elevator hit and I was still alive because I was obviously in a super soldier body.
If I'm one of these government operations directing spies into places, I wouldn't use the guy who's describing his own job as My cover gets blown a lot.
And two, I'm in a recon mission and then I just wind up killing everybody.
I don't pretend to understand what the ins and outs of this are.
Anyway, there is a reason that I'm doing this episode, even though if you just listen to that clip, it's pretty clearly a guy who's describing dreams that he's interpreting as real.
And that is something that is indicative of not a perfectly healthy mindset necessarily, which is why I'm trying to dance around this fairly delicately.
Because I don't want to beat up on this guy.
I think that he probably is dealing with something and probably needs to be the target of compassion as opposed to ridicule.
Some of these ideas are kind of funny, but only within the context of understanding that he...
No, it's like the children at the childcare facility that their recovered memories suggested that the daycare workers were satanic murderers and pedophiles and they sent them to jail for forever and it was all made up.
What I know to be what they call the Nesera and Jesera is happening because I've actually had memories of being involved with Donald Trump in the The hidden city in China.
And the celebration was obviously for Nesra and Jesra actually being rolled out right now, which is obviously a whole new change of government, everything happening, which we can actually see is happening now with this martial law being instilled on America.
So, the whole idea about the coronavirus and the COVID-19 and the lockdown and all this has to do with a whole new government being rolled out because of Nesera and Jasera.
So, just real quick, like I mentioned, in case anyone hasn't heard episodes where we talk about this a bit, Carrie's gold flag question, the fringe around the flag is just sovereign citizenship.
Their belief system says that gold fringe around an American flag indicates that something is under the control of maritime law.
NASARA is the National Economic Security and Recovery Act, which was something that was proposed by a systems researcher named Harvey Francis Barnard in the late 80s.
His basic argument was that debt was holding down the economy, and that compounded interest was the greatest factor in the maintenance of that debt, which he viewed as an ethical matter.
It was unethical to allow compounding of interest, which I'm interested in listening to as an argument, just as a whole.
His proposals were never put into law, but that didn't stop a woman named Candace Goodwin from starting posting a bunch of conspiracy theories about it.
Under the screen name The Dove of Oneness, Goodwin argued that it was actually, that Nessera was actually secretly passed by Bill Clinton as the National Economic Security and Reformation Act.
According to a fantastic article about her by Sean Robinson in the News Tribune, she believes that this secret law, quote, abolishes income taxes, forgives mortgages, zeros out credit cards, and declares...
Except where otherwise specified, the quotes in the passages I'm about to read, they all come from Robinson's reporting in the News Tribune.
Fantastic article people should check out.
The media apparently is not allowed to talk about this law.
Edwin, as the dove of oneness, got her start as an anonymous internet poster who was promoting a scam being run by a guy named Clyde Hood.
Hood had started this thing called the Omega Trust in Trading Limited.
He claimed to be a high-powered investment trader and offered people, quote, units of Omega for $100, which would, quote, roll over for 275 days with a 50 to 1 return.
Investors could let it roll again for another 275 days, again 50 to 1. After that, they could do one more roll, but that was it.
If you do the math, that would flip $100 into $12.5 million, no work involved.
Hood pleaded guilty to a bunch of charges and admitted he'd made it all up as a way to scam people and he was sentenced to 14 years in prison.
The Dove of Oneness was one of the voices that encouraged people to not give up hope on this Omega investment, even though their payments were never materializing.
As the scam was coming to a close and Hood was nearing being arrested, the Dove of Oneness spun fantastical yarns about how there was a conspiracy against Omega and how there were good forces, including judges, who were trying to fight for people to get their money.
Through her stories and supposed updates about Hood's scam, she gained a following, probably mostly of people who wanted to know where their $12.5 million was.
When Hood was arrested, she created a narrative that the whole bust was a farce, and that people needed to keep their spirits high.
She posted, quote, stay away from the website that has information on this case!
Investigators who had taken down Hood and Omega were trying to get victims to file claims to be reimbursed from the money they'd seized from him.
But, quote, many investors refused to file, refused to even talk to government investigators.
The problem was the Internet and the never ending stream of rumors led by Dove and others that urged Omega victims to clam up.
U.S. Attorney Steve Sanchez told the News Tribune, quote, No matter how hard we tried to persuade people that the information being put out there was erroneous, people didn't want to believe it.
Hood's lawyer would even get calls from investors who wouldn't accept that he'd confessed to the fraud.
Quote, Yeah.
So this is all a load of shit, but it seemed to maintain some sort of a following, the dove of oneness's work.
According to her, Omega was just one of many of what she called prosperity programs, which would make everyone involved rich.
Apparently, these programs were to be put in motion by this Nesera that she imagined had been passed into law by Bill Clinton.
Her ideas about Nessera have been debunked by the guy who came up with the idea in the first place, Harvey Barnard.
But it doesn't matter.
The conspiracy is too seductive and has its roots in a real scam that defrauded people of millions.
And that's something that comes up in this article that's really fascinating.
Because of how large this scam got and how protracted it was, the working theory around it was that it attracted a bunch of other scammers who wanted to drift along with it.
That quote is a little bit of that mentality, and then also a little bit of maybe peaking self-awareness that maybe he didn't have access to while he was deluding himself into thinking he was doing something else.
And that's fascinating to me.
So anyway, this is what Anthony believes is going on with the world today, is this implementation of this Nesera.
It's basically the concept and the idea that what we're going towards with Trump and all this is a global resetting of all economy and all this, and it's going to be like a shaking off of all debt and everything, and everyone's going to be living in wonderful, perfect prosperity.
He believes that a man whose primary wealth comes directly from property ownership and bankruptcy and defrauding people is going to suddenly switch tack.
And institute a utopian society that eliminates those things?
See, the thing is, like you said earlier, what you heard about the children happened a month ago.
You know, we're kind of like society is kind of behind schedule about what's really going on.
And those people that are in the know are kind of in more knowledge of what's actually happening.
But they have to roll it out a certain way, and that's what I wanted to talk about QAnon.
And who QAnon is and how important QAnon is because that's pretty much like the nexus point of people understanding what's happening is them studying QAnon.
And QAnon, me even saying this, is actually something that no one's been saying because they don't know.
But QAnon actually is MJ-12, is the organization MJ-12 and the government.
because the government MJ, uh, MJ 12 was created to infiltrate, uh, what people know as the Illuminati, but they're actually not the Illuminati because the Illuminati are the ones that actually oppose, um, the, the global globalization and the, uh, uh, the old world order that was being rolled out.
It's actually an old world order that has been, um, being implemented on humanity to This leads to a really interesting conversation with Carrie, where, first of all, she's like, But Majestic 12 is like a really old-school conspiracy thing.
There's going to be a problem with reverse branding that comes into this.
So I think a lot of the ideas that...
That Zender's expressing.
A lot of these things are probably things that have gotten into his subconscious, his belief system, because of engaging in a ton of Q conspiracy theorizing.
So that is another pretty solid clue of what might be leading him down this path towards having these dreams where he's on reconnaissance missions against the Umbrella Corporation in another dimension.
Um, not recently, because, I mean, I'm done with the Greys because that was, you know, very far back in my...
Like when I was six and getting abducted, I'm definitely dealing with higher beings now because even now I'm remembering memories of being involved as a super soldier where I'm fighting Nordics and they actually were fucking me up.
They actually had the ability, they were able to lift me up telekinetically and just spin me around and throw me against a wall.
Whatever's being presented as this conspiracy is I'm going to go along with it.
So now where this intersects with sort of more reality, and again, Alex Jones specifics, is some of this conversation about the actual COVID-19 situation.
And so, you know, with the Alex Jones coronavirus conspiracies that are being overlapped here, it's not surprising that he also believes as sort of a resource in pushing this.
He talks about seeing a psychiatrist, and when he talked to him about stuff, the next time he came, another guy was there who was part of the Secret Space program.
If you were a person like Harry, and you were dealing with things responsibly, you wouldn't probably have a follow-up interview.
Or you might not even put that one out to begin with.
And it's one of the reasons why I'm trying to be as careful as I can surrounding Anthony himself.
Because...
The way I kind of look at it, when you take all of it as a whole, I kind of look at him in the same way I would have looked at Jessica Schaub before she realized what she was doing didn't make sense.
I think that he still has every potential in his life to get to a point where he's living more realistically and have some more clarity about these things.
The Nesera and Jesera nonsense and all this super soldier stuff that he's fallen into.
I don't think that he is necessarily running what you'd describe as a full-scale con.
I don't think that there's...
At least, as far as I can tell, there's not wholesale bigotry going on.
There aren't the hallmarks of someone who's too far.
If you do a call-in show, you can say, I've got a whole, I talk to everybody and shit like that.
If you're doing this show, you're talking to people who are going to support the things that you want or give you a sounding board to get what you want out of them.
Yeah, and I think when you dwell in this kind of a space and you're doing interviews like this, I think you have a heightened responsibility.
I think that you actually have a greater standard that you need to live up to than somebody...
like a show where you interview people who have a new book coming out, you know, about what their book is about, you know, or some sort of a mainstream talk show.
I think you have a far greater responsibility in terms of being aware that the waters you swim in attract people who are having trouble sometimes.
there is a higher likelihood of someone with an idea closer to what you believe having some sort of pathology behind it and it is important if you want to
Right, and I don't know if Anthony is expressing that much pain, because I don't think, he doesn't appear to be struggling nearly as much as the people who I wouldn't cover.
If you're someone like Harry to not be hyper aware of that because you're in a position where you have a show that has an audience and you are in a position where you could take somebody who's going through something maybe is being influenced by some negative things online maybe it's a phase for them or something they're trying it out because they need something to hold on to and now there's Tens of thousands of people who have listened to their story and are giving them reinforcement.
And now you've put them in a situation where one path leads towards getting help and being healthy.
And that requires you to reject all of the endorphins and the sense of meaning that this new conspiracy world has given you.
You have to give up whatever that large crutch that's been built here.
So we have a couple clips here of the original interview because I think there's some telling things in here that give us a little bit more insight into things that would have been like, don't...
Pursue this further, Carrie.
But she can't, because she's not very good at this, and she's super irresponsible.
So, Ramtha has come up a few times on the show in the past.
This is the 40,000-year-old Lemurian warrior spirit who's channeled by a woman named Jay-Z Knight, who's been described as racist, anti-Semitic, and a person who pretends to channel a 40,000-year-old Lemurian spirit.
According to the News Tribune article about that whole affair, the attorney prosecuting the case, Steve Sanchez, quote, realized several victims were linked to Jay-Z Knight, the ethereal New Age guru who claims to channel the spirit of a 40,000-year-old warrior named Ramtha.
Later in the article, quote, That's how I became involved in it, was through the school, one student said.
I was involved in it and practically everybody else I knew at the school was involved in it.
There were tons of people involved in this on just a cash basis.
People were sending in cash.
Cash with no paperwork, no receipt, no nothing.
People were promised their money was going to come in before the next snowfall.
Probably just a coincidence that Candace Goodwin, the dove of oneness, also took classes at the Romtha School.
Yeah, I was definitely aware you were in my lab before you said it because I watched one of your interviews when you say you were in my lab, so I knew that.
And all the other super soldiers that you've interviewed, like Aaron McCullough, Max Spears, James Casbo, all of them, hearing their testimonies did support mine and help me to my awakening.
It did trigger a lot hearing the other super soldiers that you interviewed.
I started thinking about it all the time, I started having dreams, and then I realized that the only reason that it could possibly vibe with me this much, and why I could dream about it all the time, is because I myself must be one of those super soldiers.
I think that that would be a tough assumption to make, but it's certainly not outside of the realm of something maybe to be considered.
I don't know.
I don't know enough.
Certainly, if you were boxing in the, like, 80s, or, like, doing, you know, pro wrestling back when they did unprotected headshots with chairs and stuff, then, yes, I'd be far more concerned.
But since he started fighting in 2011, maybe, I don't know.
We've evolved a long ways in fairly recent history in terms of, like, understanding concussions.
In listening to these interviews, outside of times when he clearly doesn't know which Kennedy is being discussed, that I don't think is any kind of cognition problem.
He doesn't know the stories.
He's perfectly capable of communicating and telling a story that has a beginning, middle, and end.
I had a recall where I was in a black ops gear and everything.
I was with two squads of operators, and we were in a sewer, and we were obviously doing a raid.
And then I actually saw that the next day, Q, which is QAnon, posted it up, that there was actually a raid on a Clinton stronghold in Borneo.
And I just kind of, I was like, okay, if I had this memory recall, and then this thing was posted up about this raid on a Borneo stronghold, I definitely believe that I was involved in that.
You wouldn't make that up, probably, because even if you are presenting it as I was infiltrating them to get information, it's still a dicey road to walk.
And it makes total sense when you consider the sort of way that he conceives of his role as being this spy who goes and infiltrates the Umbrella Corporation.
What more evil thing is there than the Nazis?
So obviously, if I was doing secret work, I would have been doing that.
If there was a thing to infiltrate, it would have been Hitler's Germany.
I might be reading too much into it, but you would never bring that up if you were just trying to come up with, I feel like you just leave that off the resume.
It's pretty interesting to me that someone whose career is in this space seems to be oblivious about what the X-Files are and thinks they're the X-Men.
Not more so because obviously Alex's audience is larger but a lot of the things that are covered On her show are maybe more insidious because to certain minded people, they're so much more attractive.
It's the most infuriating thing to know that these people are clinging to these conspiracy theories and the idea that Trump is not an amoral monster as a way of feeling safe.
And in control of things, or at least somebody being in control of things, and yet that very feeling of safety is what's killing you.
I feel safe because I think Trump is not an amoral monster, and because he is, you're not safe.
It's infuriating.
You're the vector by which your lack of safety becomes assured.