Knowledge Fight - #245: December 24, 2018

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#245: December 24, 2018

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December 24, 2018’s Knowledge Fight dissects Alex Jones’ drunken rants—from cat-damaged chairs and "110% effort" lies to admitting he pressured Roger Stone to contact Julian Assange for a job, a potential felony. Jones mocks Christmas while pushing authoritarian narratives, like Trump’s Syria withdrawal as "honorable," despite Kurdish allies’ warnings of genocide. His violent hatchet swing and LeBron James tirade reveal reckless, unsupervised chaos, while legal experts question his Assange admission’s sincerity. The episode underscores how Jones weaponizes delusion, deflects blame, and thrives in unchecked, destructive radio antics. [Automatically generated summary]
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jordan holmes

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Speaker	Time	Text
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for holding.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
		I'm a first-time caller.
		I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I love your work.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, everybody.
		Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
		I am Dan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm Jordan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're a couple of dudes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a wee bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes, hey, buddy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What was the last time you got us some sweet new chairs?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I just did.
		Well, actually, thank you to my parents for a Christmas present.
		They sent me a couple of new office chairs.
		Spoiler alert, our old ones that we were using were a disaster.
		I'd had for probably seven to eight years.
		The cat scratched them to shit.
		They were just falling apart.
		Yours didn't lean back.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would go home covered in little bits of the leather lining of the chair.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was horrible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But we're now entering a new phase, and 2019 will be the year of the new chairs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Indeed, hell yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is a bizarre thing to be celebrating, but we do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this is a podcast where I know a lot about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And chairs, and I don't know anything but what you tell me about both.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Indeed, and that is the fun of this here show.
		Jordan, today we've got a fun episode in front of us.
		We are talking about Alex Jones' Christmas Eve spectacular 2018.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
unidentified		Uh-uh.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
		Nope.
		Uh-oh, what is this?
		A Bill Murray Christmas all over again?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hell no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex took Christmas off.
unidentified		Of course.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, good for him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Did a rebroadcast on Christmas.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He believes in the Lord.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		David Knight filled in on Wednesday, and then on Thursday.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course he did.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't have anywhere to go.
unidentified		New.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Owen Schroer, I think, did Thursday.
		And then Alex is due back in studio on Friday when this episode will come out.
		But of course, we won't be able to have listened to it by the time our podcast comes out.
		So what we have is Christmas Eve.
		And Alex Jones is a weirdo on Christmas Eve, which is to be expected.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yay!
		Do you know who's now a weirdo?
		Our new donors?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that's correct.
		I'd like to take a minute before we start the show to give a couple thank yous out there to folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
		First of all, I'd like to say Alex, not Alex Jones, but Alex, you are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much, Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Second, I'd like to say thank you to Tommy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Tommy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's finally time for Tommy Robinson to really start donating.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, try to make good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He needs to support the fight against him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Against himself.
		Next, I'd like to say thank you to Brian.
		You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified		Thank you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much, Brian.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Lastly, I'd like to say thank you to somebody who has joined on a little bit of a higher level, but also I'd like to give a special thank you and shout out to her.
		She sent a little tip through PayPal, and I forgot to send an email thanking her, so I will do that right now.
		So thank you very much, Christy.
		You are now a technocrat.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified		Four stars.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
		Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
		Daddy Sharp.
		Bomb Jarjar Binks has a Caribbean black action.
unidentified		He's a loser, little kitty baby.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to hate black people.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much, Christy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much, Christy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you would like to become a policy wonk out there and support the show, we would appreciate it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, and clicking that button that says support the show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It would be very kind of you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, bringing up knowledgefight.com, I should tell you, I didn't just get this chair, these two chairs, for Christmas.
		I got another gift that is a gift and a curse and a responsibility.
		And that is we received a donation that bumped us over into our next Patreon goal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's dangerous.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which I have been very vague about for a reason, and that was because I'm terrified to put this out into the world, and now I have to.
		So for a long time, people have been requesting that I write a book or we write a book about Alex Jones.
		I think that there's a good reason for that, and that is there's not as much utility in this podcast as I would like there to be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		For the people to get the information that we're putting out into the world, they have to listen to a lot of our podcast in order to get the information.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We've done like 250 episodes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Probably more than that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We average two to three hours per episode.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's not that much to listen to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		It's not the most digestible, usable application or presentation of the information that we're uncovering and the things that we're learning about.
		And so one of the things people had suggested was that book idea.
		And I think you and I early on were interested in the idea.
		But then we sat down and talked about what that would look like, what the structure of it.
		And it just seemed like there wasn't a way to make it an engaging and informative book that wouldn't take us both our entire lives.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we would end up probably killing each other because of the meetings about me using the passive voice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, we wouldn't have had a problem because my theory as to if it actually happened, here's how it would have turned out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You would have written a book, and then I would scribble in screams in the margins.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which actually might have been a, if we'd come up with that a long time ago, that might have been the way to go.
		But so I kicked around the idea of like what other ways would there be to present the information in a way that people could use.
		Like, let's say you're having an argument with somebody about X, Y, or Z thing, some conservative narrative and shit online.
		It's harder to point them to, oh, here's what this is.
		Listen to 45 minutes of this podcast, and then you'll get to the debunking of X, Y, or Z thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's pretty fun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		And hopefully, maybe we would get another listener out of it.
		It's not the most helpful.
		And so what I decided to do is I decided to start building a wiki.
		But then I started to do that, and I realized I don't like the wiki structure necessarily.
		I find it very difficult to manage, and it's unwieldy.
		But I've begun and done most of not most of the work is never going to be done.
		But I've created a database, more or less, of InfoWars information.
		It's a work in progress, but because we've crossed this goal, I will start posting it.
		I'll start making it available on knowledgefight.com.
		I hope by the first of the year.
		My goal is the first of the year it'll go live.
		That's sort of the timeframe of lead-up that I probably need to brush up a few things, polish some edges and what have you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But there will be a link on knowledgefight.com that will go to our tons of information.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I am.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I spent a large portion of my time over Christmas compiling and writing a bunch of this stuff up.
		And I'm very excited to have people see it.
		But I'm also terrified.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I am grateful to all of the policy wonks who got us to this level, mainly because Dan has been writing this shit for forever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And if you hadn't forced him to put it out, I don't think he ever would have until he was like 95.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Probably.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm speaking directly to the policy wonks, of course.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm not talking to you otherwise I would say.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I think you're probably fairly right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would kick the cam down the road and be like, well, there's just a little bit more I need to do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, I can put a little bit more in there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So it'll be incomplete from the jump, for sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And a lot of it will end up focusing on guests, narratives, information, and those sorts of things that are more germane to the times that we've studied, like 2009 and 2015, and the Trump coming to Trump era.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That sort of thing.
		There's going to be a lot more of that, but it won't only be that.
		And as time goes on, I'm going to continue to add to these databases and stuff like that.
		And hopefully in time it will be a much more thorough the way the Smithsonian Institute is incomplete.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can't have everything in there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's an unfair comparison, but I appreciate what you're saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, shut up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, that will be coming.
		So thank you to everybody who's donated to this show and supported us and forced my hand on this.
		We will see.
		But that is to come.
		What is to come today?
unidentified		Ah!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Christmas Eve.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, there we go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex is in studio.
		He's in a bit of a weird mood.
		And this first clip I'm going to play is a little bit long because is it him reenacting the entire no-out novel?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would watch a InfoWars nativity play all day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, see, here's the thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan, a bunch of people, it's not fair to say a bunch, but I got some field reports from people that they had sightings of Alex on the ground in Tulsa.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Boots on the ground in Tulsa?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Boots on the ground in Tulsa.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I thought GW wasn't going to do that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Everyone was like, what the fuck is Alex Jones doing in Tulsa?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Good question.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Turns out he explains here in this first clip and then tells a meandering, bizarre story that I can't, I cannot believe is true about going to see a movie with his wife's family.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		When I tell stories like this, I don't do it to brag.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I do it to give the listeners and viewers all across the U.S. and all across the world the positive news.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That means he's about to brag.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No.
		When I see negative stuff, I tell you about it.
		When I see positive things, I talk about it.
		I went up to Omaha, Nebraska to spend the last few days with my.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I said Tulsa.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You meant Omaha, Nebraska.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I got you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Wife, my second wife, my real wife, my awesome wife.
		Father, who's had some heart problems and things.
		So she was up there taking him to clinics and hospitals and things.
		And at the same time, spending time with her father.
		I tried a lot of time by myself to poke around the real Rush Belt, and it's still a beautiful city in many ways.
		Omaha, Nebraska.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is it?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then my wife hadn't seen the mule.
		I had seen it with some friends about a week and a half ago.
		So I said, let's take your dad to a movie.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we got a pause already.
		First of all, Omaha is a fine town.
		I've been there.
		It's a nice place.
		Second of all, Alex is like, I'm so busy fighting the InfoWar.
		I'm going to see the mule a second time.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
		It's directed by Clint Eastwood.
		I assume it's about the main villain of Second Foundation by Asimov.
		What don't you like?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm just saying, if you have time to go see a movie twice, you've got some leisure in your life.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's all I'm saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So we got him there and got him out of the car and got him in the movie because he has trouble walking.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And I've been poisoning him.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'd already seen the movie.
		And we'd eat dinner way early.
		I wanted a hot dog and some nachos.
		So I go out there at like 8 o'clock at night.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And we'd eat it at about 5.
		And I get the fast food.
		And I get the hot dog and I get the nachos.
		And all of a sudden, everybody behind the counter wants to take pictures and shake my hand.
		And the manager comes out.
		Now, by the time I do that, more people come.
		And I'm like, okay, that's like 20 people.
		Everyone that comes in here because it wasn't that busy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's called the bus.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Everybody's in the movies.
		It was in between, you know, the film's letting out.
		And I'm like, I got to get out here.
		I got to get back to the movie.
		My wife's going to wonder where I am.
		I've been 120 minutes.
		I'm going to eat the nachos while I'm shaking hands and they're taking photos.
		More people come up.
		It's almost everyone's show.
		I probably take 25, 30 photographs, shine autographs.
		They're pulling out caps and flags out of the back of the movie theater.
		And it's like the big fancy mega mall they built there.
		It's all real modern.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like the Gadsden Flags.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very modern.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Nico Cedar in Omaha.
		So I go back in, my wife's like, where have you been?
		I go, I got mobbed outside.
		We go out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why do you smell like a huge drink?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Two months later at the end of the day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to tell that part of the story.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And there are 50 people or more, mainly Generation Z, high school men and women.
		Young, young people.
		Young adults.
		And it's just crazy.
		And we're like, hey, I got to get her dad outside.
		And as we go outside, I'm walking through the night and more people are running in saying, Alex Jones, Alex Jones, Alex Jones.
		I was flash mobbed.
		And people say, well, why didn't you videotape it?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Good question.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's the point.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's what you're trying to hide.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex, that's enough.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a celebrity.
		Leave me alone.
		The good news is I got flash mobbed in Omaha, Nebraska.
		In the middle of nowhere, just trying to get a hot dog and she's nachos.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not the middle of nowhere.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Omaha, Nebraska?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a real city?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I just contest every detail of that story, except for that her dad probably has mobility problems.
		That's the only part of that story that I'm like, yeah, all right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to go ahead and all I thought was Improv Everywhere's reach has gotten too far.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they are in Omaha.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're literally everywhere now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I don't know.
		First of all, I would say, Alex, hot dogs or nachos.
		That's what I would say, first of all.
		You don't need both.
		You already said you had dinner three hours earlier.
		You don't need to go to the goddamn concession stand.
		By the way, not fast food.
		That is a movie theater hot dog.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was a movie theater.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is just above gas station hot dog.
		Oh, boy, that's not good.
		I worked at a movie theater for five years.
		I have a lot of expertise in this world.
		I also just don't believe any of this stuff.
		This is just another one of his.
		I'm so popular.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't know why it is that he is telling this story other than to preemptively make sure his wife thinks that he wasn't going to the bar.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He wasn't drinking by a dumpster.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would say that it's fascinating to me how, like, depending on what narrative and what sort of feeling he needs his audience to have, he will tell almost identical stories as that.
		Like, I went out in public and everyone mobbed me.
		And it'll either be they loved him or they were spitting at him and calling him a Russian.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Depending on whatever he needs, tons of people talk to him all the time, but they're either angry at him or love him, depending on if he needs to inspire hope or fear.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's almost like he has these paranoid projections that are dependent on how he's feeling at the time.
		Like, he's feeling good.
		He's with his family.
		They're enjoying Christmas.
		So all of a sudden, there are so many people surrounding him and they're giving him nothing but love.
		Or if he's feeling bad, like, for instance, he just met with his lawyer, all of a sudden, he's going to get mobbed by all of these evil people who are spitting on him.
		It could just be that they're all in his head.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think your paranoid projection theory might be right because he's not done talking about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And in this next clip, he says things that I think are even less likely than that first one.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So there was hysteria.
		Like Elvis Presley was there or something.
		Now, again, I'm not building myself up for me.
		They just see InfoWars as a symbol of standing up to the globalist.
		And let me tell you, our flight back, just the flight cancellations and things.
		We had to go through Denver and then come back.
		So it took me all day yesterday to get home.
		Except, you know, two-hour flight.
		It was like a 10-hour fiasco in the Denver International Airport.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, we're not talking about the north, are we?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Appreciate you.
		Appreciate you.
		Keep it up.
		Keep it up.
		Everywhere, I mean, I'm talking like every second person, black, white, Hispanic, old, young, foreigners, you name it.
		So, the good news to all the listeners and viewers is, I don't know what zeitgeist we've hit or what's going on.
		Oh, another thing, people kept saying, Merry Christmas.
		And I'd say, and they go, and they'd wink at me.
		The flight attendants, the pilots, the, I mean, the fight.
		I'd like to take a hidden camera with me and go out in public now and just show this because this is what scares the hell out of the globalists because I'm only a focal point.
		I'm a symbol of the liberty movement that they've tried to suppress and demonize and destroy.
		But people know the globalists are such liars that then it makes them embrace us even more.
		It's insane.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is insane.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's insane.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the notion that he's walking around the Denver International Airport and people are a fight club, he says.
		And then people are walking up to him and sort of like under their breath, keep it up, keep it up.
		That I get, I think he's probably imagining some of that.
unidentified		Maybe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe one guy was too shy to say hello and muttered something to him that I expanded.
		Also, by the way, having people say Merry Christmas to you when they are in the service industry is not surprising.
		The idea that stewardesses, or even the pilot, because when you're coming on the plane, they have the cockpit door open.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes the pilots will wave at you and stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The idea that they're saying a seasonal greeting is not like proof that InfoWars is so powerful.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, they're winking at him, too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That means that they know the code, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's also a flirtatious streak in Stewardess's, I think.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I found that to be the case anyway.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's fun that his white supremacist code is very easy to break.
		That is not the wind talkers that we're dealing with here.
		Your code for being cool is like, Merry Christmas, bro.
		You got me.
		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		See that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		See my eye?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And the rest of the world is like, sure, fine, whatever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're bored with you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Alex, but you may be bored.
		The rest of the world is enthralled.
		It's Beatlemania at the airport.
		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Better than Elvis.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In Omaha, somewhere right in Middle America, as the counting crows would the real America do.
		Yeah.
		So that's all good and well.
		But while Alex was out of town, something happened to his car that has led him to be in a very weird mood here on Christmas Eve.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I was driving into work.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Somebody must have been driving my car while I was gone because it was on NPR.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who would have been driving your car?
		Your kids are not old enough to drive.
		Your wife was with you.
		Your real wife was with you.
		Was Buckley driving your car?
		Who else has keys to your car?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You could be driving this car.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Does Rob do have keys to your car?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is a serious mystery.
unidentified		I need to get to the bottom.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Someone carjacked me and then left my car where I found it, but there was one thing changed.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And two songs in a row were anti-war Christmas songs.
unidentified		War's over if you wanted jingle bells.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I thought, you know, there's the left.
		They're against war.
		They hate Trump for pulling out of the future.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I thought you were triggers.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And there he is with criminal justice reform that the Democrats put in to give blacks three times the sentences.
		And then Trump fixes it.
		They're like, shut up, you Nazi.
		Don't let the blacks out of jail.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's a little all over the place.
		But, you know, someone stole his car and put it on NPR.
		And then when he got it back in his car, apparently that John Lennon song, Happy Christmas, War is Over.
		And now he's furious about it because these leftists, they are supposed to hate war, but Trump stopped the war.
		He's stopped war.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Furthermore, furthermore, here's my issue with this whole bullshit story.
		Hold on.
		Somebody just snuck NPR onto your car while you were gone.
		Somebody else was driving it.
		And you get in there being Alex Jones and you notice immediately NPR is on.
		And then you listen to a couple of songs, man.
unidentified		Come on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm still going to see what NPR has got to play.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you'd have to assume that means that NPR has shifted to a FM format and just playing Christmas songs in a block as opposed to it being like inner city.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fish American life, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or all things considered, playing a little Lennon in there.
unidentified		It was just Ezra Koenig singing the song.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we'll get into the war thing here in a minute because that's nonsense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But you were particularly confused by this criminal justice reform thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So if I understand correctly, Alex's take on the criminal justice reform bill that passed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Was that the Democrats put all this language in there that specifically said we're going to keep black people specifically in jail for three times as long as they were before?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was saying that that was the way it was before.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And that's what the Democrats said.
		That's what the Democrats said.
		And then Trump fixed it by using his incredible power to understand legislative language.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And to make the First Step Act happen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, while it's absolutely a good thing that bipartisan legislation passed Congress that would work to ease mandatory minimum sentences and work harder on rehabilitation of offenders instead of punishing them, it's absolutely absurd to give Trump any credit for the First Step Act.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think he did it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		For one thing, a ton of the things contained in the bill are things that leftists have been pushing for for a long time.
		And actually, in many ways, this is just an extension of things that have been in the works since Obama's term.
		From an article in McClatchy, quote, the new law called the First Step Act retroactively applies changes Congress made to drug sentencing laws in 2010, which experts say will allow between 4,000 and 6,000 current prisoners to immediately qualify for supervised release programs.
		That is to say that in 2010, there was a bill passed that sought to undo the damage that was done by the varying sentences for like crack and cocaine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That sort of thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Varying racist sentences for crack and cocaine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Under Obama in 2010, that was passed.
		What this bill does, the First Step Act, that is really good, is it makes them retroactive.
		So that is a very positive thing, but it's really just an extension of something that has already been in the works long before Trump people on the left have been pushing for for quite a while.
		The reason for the varying sentences for Coke and crack goes back to the Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1986, signed into law by Reagan after being passed overwhelmingly by the bipartisan effort.
		It was like 90% of both the House and Senate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's very far.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Very few people were against it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There were also way, way more white people in the House and Senate at the time, and the TV news was hamming up this.
		Crack, the new epidemic taking over the inner cities.
		Definitely not regular folk like you and me.
		The inner cities.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can't say that that was a Republican or Democrat initiative, inasmuch as both houses of Congress voted overwhelmingly for it, regardless of party.
		It's a shame of both parties, quite frankly.
		So this bill, oh, one of the things that's been touted as one of the bill's really positive things is that it bans the shackling of pregnant prisoners.
		But that was a practice that has already been banned by the Bureau of Prisons in 2008.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That really shouldn't have been anything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It shouldn't have been a conversation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There should not have been any.
		I read that in the bill, and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on, hold on.
		That wasn't already taken care of at the dawn of humanity?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was by the Bureau of Prisons in 2008.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's more fucked up to realize that it wasn't in 2007.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's not, who knows how well.
		I bet they weren't doing a great job of following the BOP guidelines or anything like that.
		And it's good to put that into law.
		But it was, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The Boy Scouts had condoms at their parties before we stopped shackling pregnant women.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It is good, but it's also not nearly enough, this bill.
		The act only relates to federal prisoners and does literally nothing to fix the wrongful incarceration/slash enslavement of far, far more people locked up in state prisons.
		Of the estimated 2.3 million prisoners there are in this country, only approximately 180,000 are in federal prisons, over two-thirds of whom are not even eligible for this program, which makes the act seem possibly kind of just like lip service to the private prison industry.
		All in all, this was a bill that enjoyed largely bipartisan support that Trump did nothing to make happen.
		If anything, the argument should be that Jared Kushner pushed for it.
		So if Alex wants to praise someone, that's his guy.
		The reality is that Trump saw an opportunity to attach himself to something that was universally popular, cost him nothing, and he could use it to his advantage, so he did just that.
		Now, further, Alex should not be in favor of the First Step Act based on his principles.
		For one, it excludes offenders who used firearms in committing of their offenses.
		He should believe that this is an unfair demonization of the United States.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Demonizing firearms.
		Ah, that's it.
		It's the libs.
		They're trying to keep our guns in jail.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you were caught selling crack and you had a gun, you're not eligible for the benefits that will come from the First Step Act.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's kind of rude.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure, but Alex should be super against that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Plus, the Congressional Budget Office estimates that the plan will cost taxpayers $346 million over the next 10 years because the released people will be eligible for benefits like SNAP and insurance assistance.
		If Obama did something like this, it would be proof of a globalist plot against good, hard-working white citizens, an attempt to flood the streets with criminals in order to set off social unrest and bring in FEMA camps.
		It's all nonsense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think he's applying a double standard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It feels that way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think he might be applying a double standard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, the issue, I'm bringing that up because that's the way Alex's rhetoric generally works.
		Obviously, the amount you'll save in not incarcerating these people makes up for the $346 million.
		Oh, of course.
		But Alex is a propagandist.
		He would use that number against Obama if he had a fucking chance.
		Immediately.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Instantly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, anyway.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He would say, actually, he wouldn't use that number.
		That number is too small.
		He would say, it's going to cost the taxpayers billions upon billions of dollars a year.
		And that's without knowing that there are rapists and murderers in your community.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And somehow the Federal Reserve is to blame or some shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who knows?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Actually, that is true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who knows?
		So this is all nonsense.
		He spends a large portion of the show trying to give Trump credit for this and being like, he's the best.
unidentified		You know, even if you're a liberal, you got to love that he did this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, well, he did sign it.
		Yeah.
		But what's he going to do?
		Veto that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That'd be pretty fun.
		Is that what you're going to do?
		I mean, he should, based on his beliefs, too, based on his track record about law and order.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All that stuff Trump should have to do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't want to appear soft on innocent people being injured.
		He never has.
		Yeah, he's never done that.
unidentified		He's on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's regarded on innocent people.
		Oh, sure, sure.
		They're innocent.
		Anyways, we need to give the Central Pike 5 the death penalty.
		I know you say they're innocent because of evidence, and I'm a big racist.
		But we don't want to appear weak on the innocent.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That would be strong.
		So, oh, that's a hot load of bullshit.
		And Alex, I mean, it's one of those things that's like, I hate the way he's lying, but at least he's lying about something that's mostly positive.
		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He is also trying to present the idea that Democrats are against the plan, or they have been against it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't understand why.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, we'll get into that later, but it's just incredibly infuriating when you look at the reality.
unidentified		But Alex loves Trump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's not gotten off the train.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's still on board real hard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And in this next clip, it turns out he also loves Trump's daddy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, my reputation is amazing because I come from the exact same people.
		Pro-America anti-communist that discovered the Globalist plan more than 50 years ago, like Fred Trump.
		So I've been in the same operation that's organic from the American people.
		And I'm part of the very same stay-behind network of Americans to challenge the globalists.
		And now they are the stay-behind network.
		Now they are beginning to be removed.
		Now they're beginning to feel our fingers around their throats.
		Doesn't matter what knives they shove in our guts.
		We got good old boy gush.
		Because by the time our eyes roll back in our heads, our enemy will be dead.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Merry Christmas.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They can't stand our spirit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, yeah, that is Christmas Earth.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a Christmas.
		That's a Christmas message.
		Absolutely.
		In the name of our dear Lord's birthday, I just want to let everybody know, even though we are being stabbed in the good old boy guts, we will choke the life.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The true message of Christ.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, yeah, so far we got lying about criminal justice reform, screaming about killing the globalists, and bragging about getting a hot dog in Tulsa.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified		Omaha.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Omaha.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know why I'm mixing up those two.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know either.
		So, yeah, anyways, this is the Christmas Eve episode, right?
		Okay.
unidentified		So, I to be fair, Christmas Eve Day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He hasn't even put the prisons under the tree yet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's working his way into it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is where you start and then you get festive later.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, no, maybe he's getting it all out of his system so when he goes home, he can be like, hey, I'm sorry I've been poisoning your dad for all these years, but also Merry Christmas instead of screaming about how the globalists need to have their throats cut.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he doesn't, yeah, yeah.
		I mean, that would make for a better celebration, I would say.
		I would think so.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		With his real wife, of course.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This next clip is sort of an extension of that theme, the idea of like fighting and killing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a consistent theme.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex makes so he talks about how he's going to defeat the globalists in this next clip, which is nothing new.
		But then he sort of spells out what comes next.
		And that also isn't new.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		95% of people are going to die.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, he has another battle in front of him after the globalists are taken care of.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Facebook.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has.
		It's close.
		He has.
		He's mentioned this before, but just the way he says it is really funny to me.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And now your fall forever is close.
		And then we will face the AI and the next levels.
		You are nothing but a training toy for babies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So prepare to join the ash heap of history with your fallen gods, Hillary Clinton, Bathomet, Satan, and Lucifer.
unidentified		What about this Christmas?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We are going to receive the knowledge of the next level.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Whoa.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's get serious and get focused here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
		What?
		No, you can't drop that and then be like, okay, let's move on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What an asshole.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No!
		This Christmas, we're going to find out the secrets of the universe.
		Anyways, we're going to get back to this Syria thing over here.
		How are you guys doing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Actually, that is what he gets into.
		It's amazing your instincts.
		Would you believe he has a terrible take on the whole thing?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, he shouldn't even have it.
		No, he should be 100% for this.
		I'm going to be very furious.
		This is his whole thing.
		This was Trump shoved ISIS up his dirty asshole level when we were in Syria.
		So getting out of Syria should be a slam.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, he's for it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's for it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But his take on it involves some problems, I would say.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then he actually was honorable and pulled 2,000 troops who were daily truck supplies of food and armaments to the Kurds who were allied with ISIS.
		And that's it.
		You're like, well, what the Kurds were fighting ISIS fears?
		He goes, yeah, but now they're allied with them.
unidentified		What?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Trump has made these moral and correct high-ground decision.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's absolutely not true.
		Like, that's absurd.
		Like, the idea of pulling troops out, like, generally, always I'm going to be in favor of us not having troops placed.
		But in the instance like this, you do have to recognize that when you do pull those troops out, what you're doing is creating a power vacuum that is going to lead to possibly the genocide of the Kurds.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, that's never been tried before.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's been tried a bunch before.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, by who?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Where do you want me to start?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so hold on.
		So you're saying that by removing a large number of troops really, really quickly, then that could create a power vacuum.
		Say, let's just take a random year where this could have occurred as a hypothetical.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		1991.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was going to go with 2011.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How about 1997, too?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		With that one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We've not done a great job with the Kurds.
		No.
		And they've generally been a very strong ally of ours.
		So the Kurds are not allied with ISIS.
		And in fact, the same day that Trump announced he was going to abandon the Kurds in northern Syria, ISIS set off a bomb in Raqqa, killing at least one Kurdish fighter.
		The Kurds are part of the Syrian Democratic Forces, an alliance that fought against ISIS, al-Nuzra, and the like, who were supported by Saudi Arabia and Qatar in terms of providing arms.
		This idea that at some point the Kurds switched alliances to supporting ISIS is patently absurd.
		Because if they did, this conflict, or at least this large aspect of it, would be over.
		It wouldn't exist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't understand his take at all.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Among all the bad takes that I've read, and this has been this whole Syrian situation, I wish I had way more of a grasp on it because I've read every possible angle on this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know a bit, but at the same time, I recognize that there's so much I even don't understand.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm going through it and I'm in this place of like, yes, we shouldn't have troops there.
		It's an illegal war.
		Obviously, we should remove troops from that place.
		Like, the arguments for keeping them there are really it's a proxy war between us and the Russians, but at the same time, we're also trying to stop genocide.
		But are we really doing any good at that?
		Like, are we a positive force in Syria?
		Has anybody even asked that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that at the end of the day, some of those questions will be answered by our absence.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just the answers we may not like to see.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or we might not like what we find out whenever it goes that way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		Like I said, there are a lot of forces in play in terms of the situation in Syria.
		I even hazard to say whether I'm for or against the idea of taking troops out.
		Exactly.
		I can see an argument for, and I can also see strong argument to not do it based on the consequences that will come.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		So I don't know.
		It's not a perfect thing.
		But the idea that Alex is saying that the Kurds are allied with ISIS is absolutely not true.
		And the idea that he's trying to say that Trump did something honorable and noble way assistance to the Kurds.
		It just leaves them sitting ducks to the people who are supported by Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Russia, Assad, like those sorts of people who will, now that the U.S. isn't there as the main ally for the Kurds, will have no incentive not to make massive offensives and slaughter people by possibly the thousands.
		I mean, it could turn into something really, really awful.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and I'm sure that this has, like, him choosing Syria specifically definitely has nothing to do with the interests of foreign powers that he may be interested in.
		I'm sure he's going to take troops out of Yemen, of course.
		We're going to stop providing material support there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're definitely going to get out of Iraq.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I assume we're going to get out of so many of the, like, we have 50 military bases all around the world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't come up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I assume that the honorable thing to do would be that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't I mean, I can't think of any specific reason that Syria would be picked amongst all of these places that we're killing people, damn.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's super interesting, too, because Alex's conversation of this ends up getting into the idea of like, now that we're getting gone, you know, they're going to wrap that up real quick.
		Everything will be fine.
		And then, much like I told you during the run-up to the 2016 election, the plan will kick into place.
		Once everything's settled down, Assad is going to step down and hold elections.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he's still using that narrative as being like, that's what's right in front of us.
		Assad is going to allow democracy to thrive.
		Like, Alex, your arguments are based on lies that Steve Pieczenik told you.
		And now you don't even like Steve Pieczenik anymore, but you're still using his narratives.
		Like, that's so fascinating to me that Alex is like, oh, Steve Pieczenik was trying to convince me to say that the Las Vegas shooting didn't happen.
		He was trying to get me to make that my narrative, but I realize that that's not true and that's not the case.
		Alex went on air and said that Steve Pieczenik is probably still running CIA psyops.
unidentified		Probably.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But hasn't taken a second to consider what pieces of his worldview were brought to him by Steve Pieczenik and questioned those.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The idea of the secret counter-coup, the idea that our military Russia and Assad all had a secret agreement that they were going to everybody's going to be super that Obama wasn't involved with.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't be afraid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, behind Obama's back.
		All that stuff is stuff that Steve told him.
		And he hasn't taken even a tiny little bit to be like, huh, if he's been lying to me and trying to get me to go down roads he wants me to go down, what about this?
		Because it would completely destroy his support for Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, I have no problem with this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because if there's one thing that I have really learned from this podcast, it is that you can never underestimate how lazy Alex really is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So lazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why would he go back and change anything?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You talk about Mr. Fake Quote?
		Mr. Not Fact Check Anything?
		Alex Jones?
		Yeah, of course he's super lazy.
		But I think that there's a nefarious reason behind it, too.
		And that is, like I said, if that piece, if that domino falls, it calls into question so many of the reasons that he ended up supporting Trump.
unidentified		Oh, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, I don't think he probably would have ended up supporting Trump if he didn't have that fictional mythology of being the mouthpiece of the secret good guys in intelligence counter-coup nonsense going on that Steve was telling him about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It allowed him to live in a spy movie that he already believed himself to be living in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a psyop that Steve ran on him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It verified Alex Jones' own delusions of grandeur.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nah, come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
		That's nuts.
		But if it comes down to it and there is peace in Syria, which I don't know when that's going to happen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what that would even look like.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But let's assume that it does, and then Assad doesn't step down and have elections.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex, it's never going to come to that because there'll never be a satisfactory piece to where he's like, and now it's time.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And if he doesn't, the narrative will just be like, Trump asked him to stay on because he's the strong leader that needs to be in there right now in order to protect the well, he was going to step down, but now he's super nationalist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we need him there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So we're adding him to our globalist network of nationalists.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		So, I don't know.
		This is all a lot of nonsense, but it's not nearly as much nonsense as this next clip.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Trump went to Saudi Arabia.
		He negotiated previously with him over the phone and via letter.
		And he said, I know you're funding Al-Qaeda and all the other variants.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I know you've been working with lesser intelligence to do it since the British put you in power almost 100 years ago.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He said, if you do it, we're going to overthrow you right now.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And they said, right.
		No, no, we'll say that in a letter.
		We'll let women drive cars and go to college and start taking their burkas off.
		And Trump said, bingo.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Bingo.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Bingo.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So to respond to that, they begin flipping out and going crazy all over our news that Trump is the worst person on earth because the war's over if you want it to be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So do you understand the argument that he's making there, basically?
unidentified		No, I think I'm not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I feel like you're trolling a little bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I get what he's trying to say.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That Trump basically brought women driving and the ability to take off your hijab.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think there's a difference between understanding the definitions of the words that he's using and understanding the argument that he's making.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was more asking.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The words I understand.
unidentified		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And you can see why it's nonsense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		See, Donald Trump went to Saudi Arabia on May 20th and 21st, 2017.
		Here are just some of the things that have happened since then that don't really match up with Alex's stupid narrative.
		In November 2018, Amnesty International released a report showing that Saudi Arabia, quote, tortured, sexually harassed, and mistreated several human rights activists detained since May of this year.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		While they were driving.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The activists were flogged and electrocuted, leading one of them to attempt suicide repeatedly while in custody.
		In March 2018, Saudi Arabia arrested a number of women's rights activists, some of whom were leading campaigners for the right to drive for women, including Lujain al-Houth Lul and Aziza al-Yussef.
		In essence, quote, as the Saudi crown prince tours the world presenting himself as a reformer, he is arresting women's rights activists who refuse to accept his tokenism, leaving it to us to make their voices heard, said Kenneth Roth, executive director at Human Rights Watch.
		In August 2018, Saudi Arabia sought the death penalty in a trial against human rights activist Isra al-Gogham and four associates of hers.
		The charges they accused her of included, quote, participating in protests, chanting slogans hostile to the regime, attempting to inflame public opinion, crime, and filming protests and publishing on social media.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Death penalty.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Arrested in December 2015, she was held without access to a lawyer for 32 months.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Her most recent trial was scheduled for November 21st of this year, but she wasn't brought to the court, which is also what happened in her October 28th hearing, which has led some international rights organizations to fear for the worst.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you mean that she's already dead?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Khashoggi?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or just in some sort of terrible way?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They don't want to present her publicly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		No, it's one or the other.
		There's no she's fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's strong fears that that's the case.
		Barring any proof, that's about as best you can say.
		It seems that way.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		And then as you brought up in August, or I'm sorry, in August 2018, the Canadian ambassador was expelled from the country after Canada's foreign minister tweeted in support of releasing jailed activists.
		Then there was the October SAW-related murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, the atrocities being committed in Yemen, and the list goes on and on with instances of Saudi Arabia being squarely on the wrong side of human rights issues long after Trump supposedly gave them a stern talking to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was actually a SAW-3 related, the murdering of Khashoggi.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nothing that Alex is saying makes any sense, and all he's doing is creating a fictional reality to live in to justify why he used to be critical of Saudi Arabia and now thinks they're the good guys, without having to just admit that he's doing it solely because Trump has said that they're the good guys.
		So that's all he's doing.
		He's just trying to shift his narratives by creating a false reality.
		And it's not true.
		And the world is suffering because of it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it's almost like most of the Republican Party has abandoned every ideal they ever stood for in order to do the politically expedient thing, which is ride the wave of a massive racist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is literally carrying water for people who are working to kill everybody in Yemen and destroy human rights.
		Yep.
		It's a mess.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		MBS must have thought it was a brilliant move to be like, hey, I will give all of you the right to drive, just like these activists have said.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And secretly, I will kill all of these activists so I never have to worry about activism again, and I'll never have to change anything past that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it sends a strong message.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I also don't like calling him MBS because that's the name of a textbook company.
		There was like a warehouse in Columbia, Missouri.
		And it was like a Kush gig that I could have gotten when I was like 19 or something like that.
		Like, I would have been made if I could have gotten in there.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I failed a drug test and they didn't hire me.
		But the funny thing is, I had taken the stuff.
		You know, it's that stuff supposed to flush out your system.
		Right, right, right, right.
		But it didn't work.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then that stuff never does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When I got my drug test results back, I tested positive for a number of substances I had never taken, which was a little bit scary.
		Anyway, those memories flood back anytime I hear MBS.
		I got you.
unidentified		I apologize.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		How rich I could have been at 19.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Mohamed bin Salman.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I thought I offended you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex is clearly peddling a self-deluded narrative about Trump and his actions vis-à-vis the Kurds and Saudi Arabia.
		But it's not him who's been tricked.
		It's the leftists.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, NPR, CNN, they are like the war party now, right there with the neocons.
		What a disgusting group of people.
		But when is the average liberal going to say, I'm not a leftist and say, my God, Trump is the maverick.
		He's the liberator.
		When are you going to start really appreciating him and admitting you got conned?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Probably not soon, I would say.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trump is the great liberator, and all of you liberals have been conned.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How?
		How can you?
		Just like how?
		I just don't understand it.
		Like, this is a for real psychotic episode that so much of America is having all at the same time, where up is down, and nothing makes any fucking sense.
		None of what they're saying makes sense.
		Like, I just want to have a conversation that makes sense instead of a conversation where it's like, actually, President Alice from Wonderland is doing a great job, and everything that she does is fantastic.
		And how dare you, you evil fucking rabbit?
		What are you doing with that pocket watch?
		And not be like, no, I just think we shouldn't lower taxes for the rich.
		I don't know what to.
		You're a traitor.
		Oh, shit.
		I don't know.
		I want to see an Alice in Wonderland with Alex's voice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think a lot of this might come down to the stuff that we focus on so much.
		I think that that perception might be in your head because of so much of the covering the propaganda world.
		Even though it is so much more mainstream than it used to be and everything, I think that we have maybe a little bit of a skewed opinion of how everyone is conversing because we hear so much Alex Jones and all that shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, that's reasonable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But the only other explanation then is that so much of the Republican Party is either apathetic to reading any news whatsoever, which now that I say that, nope, I agree.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		To quote Trump talking to Saudi Arabia, bingo.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I posed that as a question between two options and then finished the first story.
		Oh, yeah, no, never mind.
		You're correct.
		Moving on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The Chicagoan who started a question and ended a sentence.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like that Hugh Grant movie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Boo to Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was going to let it go.
		So Alex is doing some stuff that I would say is evil.
		Like, I legitimately think the narratives that he's perpetuating and putting out into the world on Christmas Eve, no less.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is Christmas Eve, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And I think it's very dangerous.
		I think it's a really bad, bad thing.
		I think his behavior is, I think that there's a moral character to it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oftentimes, I don't really care too much to get into the moral discussion about him lying about the MIAC report or something.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's my job.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Even if you want to, I'm not super interested in it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, I know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The morality of lying is not always that like that compelling of a conversation.
		But in this case, I do think that the lies that he's saying are leading to deaths, or at very least, normalizing and covering up deaths.
		And I think that that is really bad.
		I think that's actually, I think that's evil, and that makes it all the funnier that in this next clip, Alex talks about how he's incapable of evil.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		See, here's the thing: I can think Machiavellian and I can think treacherous, but then I'm always covering what they're doing.
		I can't apply it myself.
		I just can't do it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's why I have Roger Stein.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I have blind spots.
		You could say it's a good thing.
		But all I've got is straight shooting.
unidentified		And that's pathological.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		These people that just get into lies and manipulation and they don't even know who they are anymore.
		It's like Louis Gomert said to the head of Google, he said, you don't even know the light if you saw it.
		It's like you're a blind man.
		But see, I can see darkness.
		I can see evil.
		But I can't do it.
		I don't know how to explain that.
		And the problem is, I can't do evil stuff literally.
		I mean, I do bad stuff sometimes out of anger, and I feel bad about it later, but I can't launch an evil plan that screws people over and that lies to people and then feel good about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm starting an MLM.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how to explain it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I can't even.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think he's actually being blasphemous right now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm so loyal that I'm disloyal.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Does that make sense?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not at all.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's an important thing to quantify and to realize that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Newtons?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The hindsight is 20-20.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All I can say is this, Steve Bannon is so damn bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This whole thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is all a bit about Steve Bannon.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You bet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is apologizing for ever supporting Steve Bannon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So, this whole like, I can't do evil speech is in, like, I can't do evil, or at least not like Steve fucking Bannon.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That asshole.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The guy who was Trump's campaign manager.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Who I loved forever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The guy who had played an instrumental part in getting Trump elected.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The guy who ran the other propaganda outlet that I would report on repeatedly to the point of getting me sued by Amdi Ulakaya.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nah, come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The guy who now is working to help Jer Bolsonaro, the guy who I say is Brazil's Trump, the guy who is a part of the, well, we would say fascist authoritarian rise around the world that Alex calls the nationalist movement around the world.
		Steve Bannon has a huge part in all that.
		What the fuck are you doing, Alex?
		Analyze for a second the things you're doing.
		It's crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He can't.
unidentified		He can't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is such a pathetic dum-dum.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's just pathological to even consider saying, like, I couldn't do evil.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm just not capable of it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, that's really a disease.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, that is a malignant, narcissistic trait.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, I can do no wrong.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course, I do get angry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But I'm going to minimize that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I do bad things, but I, you know, there is a therapeutic aspect to that.
		And I think that, you know, oftentimes whenever you're in therapy and you suffer from like guilt and shame excesses in your life and that sort of thing, there is a helpful little trick to being like, I did a bad thing.
		I'm not bad.
		That sort of thing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But Alex doesn't deserve that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He is bad.
unidentified		Well, even then, you're bad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're a bad person.
		You're just not even morally.
		You're bad at being a person.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If only because he went to a movie and he got a hot dog and notchos.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's ridiculous.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What are you doing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's excessive.
unidentified		Why is it?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why is it that there's so many weird dietary shit that evil Republicans?
		What do you mean you eat a well-done steak?
		Go to hell.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		With ketchup.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Get out of here.
		So, I don't know.
		That stuff is just really funny to me.
		The idea that one thing he's apologizing for is supporting Steve Bannon when everything about him supports Steve Bannon.
		Yeah.
		You can't apologize for other stuff, but.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And that he supports everything that Steve Bannon is doing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Even though it's so evil.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Incapable of evil.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Incapable of evil.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So now at this point, Alex goes out to break.
		So I don't know.
		Did you play sports growing up?
		I did.
		Do you have any bosses when you were younger that gave you inspiration or any coaches that gave you some inspirational advice?
		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like what?
		I don't know.
		I was.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Can't lose.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
		That guy wasn't real.
		Was that quote real?
		Was that based off of a real thing that that guy said?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, someone wrote it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Someone wrote it, obviously.
		No, I had a baseball coach my sophomore year who said all kinds of inspirational shit.
		Do you remember any of it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just cliche stuff, probably, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, like I had a boss who would do the time to lean, time to clean.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, that's weird and evil.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Time to lean, time to clean.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My response to that was always, time to lean, time for me to go the fuck home.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm cutting out on this shift, asshole.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, his shit was always like, eh, da-da-da-da-da, work hard.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, like that kind of thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Effort overcomes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But yeah, but you would probably recognize that almost everything that that person said is just something that thousands of people have said.
		It's basically from an inspirational poster.
		It's not some sort of.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He did say, hang in there, kitty, a lot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		It's exactly that.
		It's not some sort of like really special.
		Every coach says the exact same thing.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're a coach.
		You get the handbook whenever you start being a coach.
		It's just a long list of cliches.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in this next clip, Alex acts like a cliche that a coach told him is some sort of profound advice.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Trump is very fatalistic.
		He believes that he goes into this.
		I remember one thing a football coach told me that was the best thing I ever got told.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Poison your father.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It was so important.
		I wasn't that good of a player.
		They put me in varsity when I was a freshman after the season.
		One of three people.
		And I hated it.
		And I was going to run over.
		It was so painful.
		But it was because I made some big plays and I hurt people and they liked that.
unidentified		Whoa, We got to pause there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You got put up to varsity because you hurt people and they liked that.
		I understand it's football.
		Texas is great.
		Look, it's football, but even so, like, you're not supposed to hurt people.
		You're supposed to hit people, sure, but there's safe ways to do that in unsafe ways.
		And it's sounding like possibly Alex played football unsafely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I played football and I tried very hard not to hurt people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a psychotic impulse.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I hit people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because that's physical.
		There's a reason you have pads and all that shit.
		And you like, hit him with the pads.
		Not like you're.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The people who would play high school football and be really excited to try and hurt somebody, that's someone who also may or may not have killed a couple dogs in their life.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is a lunatic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So anyway, the advice.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But this coach told me, he said, you go 110%, you don't get hurt.
		You go anything less than 100 plus percent, you're going to get hurt.
		And I learned it's true.
		You go 100% or you get hurt.
		And the president is going 110 damn percent.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Biggest hurt.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's going to get hurt.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But that, like, go half speed, that's when you get hurt, is like one of the most Bush League.
		It makes me think he didn't actually play sports.
		Because even if you didn't, you would know that piece of advice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know how most of the NFL goes half speed all the time?
		That's how they became the professional sports players that they are.
		That's why, like, there's a 25% massive injury rate all the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So now, after this, Alex gets weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The saying should be: you go 110%, you're going to get CTE.
		Fucking stop it.
		Stop it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because he believes in you.
		He's ready to die.
		He's ready to be killed.
		He's ready to be impeached.
		He doesn't give a damn because he knows in the tarot card deck, there's got to be something called the king.
		Something called the prince.
		Something called the hero.
		There's got to be somebody that doesn't back down.
		There's got to be somebody that doesn't sell out.
		There's got to be somebody that didn't a pedophile.
		There's got to be somebody that loves God.
		And Trump is that card.
		InfoWars is that card.
		You are that card.
		So get ready for fireworks because this is it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's no pedophile card in the tarot deck.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is the tarot deck used for playing war?
		No.
		I don't think so.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not totally sure why Alex Jones would be bringing up tarot cards, something that he specifically thinks is evil in his worldview, and saying that Trump is the king card in it, but oh well.
		It's only his Christmas Eve episode.
		That's the perfect time for him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I really don't think this is the Christmas Eve episode, Dan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're fucking with me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's the perfect time for him to ramble about how his hero is the assumed top of the esoteric magic devil card game deck.
		The problem is that the tarot deck doesn't operate the same way a normal deck of cards does, where the higher the card is, the better it is.
		Also, in normal decks, aces be kings, so I guess Trump isn't the top in that conception either.
		But let's not get too far off.
		The four suits of the tarot deck, wands, cups, pinnacles, or coins, and swords, each represent more or less a different one of the elements.
		That's generally how most people look at the tarot deck.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the king of each suit denotes a completely different thing in each suit.
		Also, a king card being drawn means a completely different thing depending on where the card is drawn in a reading and if it's drawn upright or reversed.
		There's a lot of variables in terms of each card.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope, the king wins, right?
		That's the point of the tarot deck.
		No, He beats the ten of spades at least.
		Where's the ten of spades in the tarot deck?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There aren't spades.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's like a ten of cups.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, then how do you play spades?
unidentified		You can't.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You can't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The four suits are each a minor arcana because they each have identical cards in each suit.
		So each one is an instance of a minor arcana.
		If Alex wanted to really make his point, he should have chosen a card from the major arcana where there's only one individual card of its kind in the deck.
		For instance, he could have chosen the Emperor, which is described as, quote, the Emperor represents a powerful leader who demands respect and authority.
		As a leader, you rule with a firm but fair hand.
		You have a clear vision of what you want to create, and you organize those around you to manifest your goal.
		You listen to the advice of others, but you prefer to have the final say.
		Conflict doesn't scare you, and you wouldn't hesitate to use your power to protect those you care about.
		That could have been a fun way for Alex to describe Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Those sentences remind me of this thing that people use to scam it.
		It's called a Barnum statement, you know?
		Where it could describe literally fucking everybody.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, sure.
		I mean, there is a touch of that in this.
		I don't know.
		I don't want to go too far into like.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I prefer the I Ching.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's all I'm saying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Same thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I like to throw some bones, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, also, by the way, in the tarot deck, there isn't a prince card.
		There's a knight.
		And there's no hero.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The hero card?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a fool.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think he's talking about a Magic the Gathering deck.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He might be talking about that.
		All this is to say that Alex is very stupid and almost never knows what he's talking about, particularly when he ventures accidentally into the worlds of the supposedly evil things that he's against.
		But Trump is the king card.
		He's the king card.
		King card.
		King of cups.
		Anyway, in this next clip, oh, dude.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So you got very excited.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I did, because I forgot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I really don't believe this is the Christmas Eve episode.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I forgot this clip was coming because something ends up happening at the end of this episode that kind of I thought that that was what we were working towards.
		Yeah.
		I forgot about this clip.
		Alex should never have said this on air.
		This is really, really fucked up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do we have a list of those?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there is, I mean, Larry Nichols shouldn't have blackmailed Congress.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, that's bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's one.
		Alex shouldn't have let him say that.
		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everything Steve Pachenic has ever said.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex shouldn't have talked about being debriefed by Russian intelligence agents.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He probably shouldn't have said that on air.
		Nope.
		Shouldn't have talked about possibly killing his dogs.
		It's a long list.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a long list.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This one, I think, might have legal implications.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's having Roger Stone on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Roger's on the other end of the phone, and they're talking about how all this Russia stuff is bullshit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Alex accidentally tells some backstage business.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think that Alex is revealing something he really, really shouldn't reveal.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I was there.
		And you're like, well, this is off record, but I'll say it now.
		This is during the campaign.
		Yeah, Fox News just let me go as a contributor.
		It's not really supposed to be public until they pay me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So first things first, Alex is putting Roger's business into the streets.
		During the campaign, he was a paid contributor in Fox News.
		So, I mean, that is what it is.
		That's whatever.
		But that gives us a timeframe.
		It has to be after November 2015, because that's the first time that Roger appeared on Alex's show to the election.
		It has to be in that timeframe.
		Roger was fired from Fox News, and he comes to Alex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, when InfoWars hire me.
		And I said, you know, Roger, you're a good guy on the show, and I promote your website, and I saw your book.
		That's good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Roger has come to Alex, and he has asked him for a job at InfoWars.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Importantly, he said he saw his book.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He did not read his book.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, his book was Making of the Presidency 20.
		Oh, it could have been one of his older books, though.
		The one about LBJ killing Kennedy and stuff like that.
		So in 2016, at some point, Roger Stone started his own show on the Genesis Communications Network called The Stone Cold Truth.
		It was very short-lived.
		So that probably is right around when we're talking about him.
		He asked Alex for a job.
		He got him a show on GCN, and then it went away.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I've got a lot of extra money laying around, but I said, if you could get me Julian Assange, because you've been talking about your intermediary.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I see.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, New York Times video, but not us.
		And you're like, well, I'll try.
		I know this talk show hosted.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex Jones has now just admitted on air that he directed Roger Stone to get in touch with Julian Assange.
		He's going to try and portray that as like, it's no big deal.
		Roger was unsuccessful in getting in touch with him.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Meanwhile, if it does turn out that there is concrete evidence that Roger was in contact with them and stuff like that, like if that evidence exists, which I think there's strong indications that he was, but the actual evidence of it, I think, is still forthcoming.
		And we'll see if it is the truth or if it's not.
		But if it is, Alex has just put himself in prison.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is, he just did it to himself.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is the first time I've ever been like, God, I wish there really were like FBI agents from all around the world totally to this show.
		Because yes, they should be because you are a crime committer.
		You're just crime committed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		During the campaign, Roger Stone got fired as a contributor by Fox News, asked me for a job, and I said, you're a good guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Will only give you a job if you bring me the most illegal bring that you can give me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I, Alex Jones, do hereby direct you to commit a crime for me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Turns out Alex got us a Christmas gift, too, in the form of this stupid ass clip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that how Mark Richards is in jail forever?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can't direct somebody to commit a crime without being part of the crime yourself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a little bit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, anyway, let's finish this clip up.
unidentified		Oh, God.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, Zeeman.
		He's going.
		I mean, I remember you.
		I mean, I'm not trying to, like, oh, you want this job for me?
		It's just a story of what happened.
		I remember literally, you know, saying, no, you're not, and it was like a year until I gave you a job for other stuff, but you're a good guy and give commentary.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But I was there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The starting and ending that clip with I was there is not going to play out well for you, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Here's what I also, I didn't just direct you to commit that crime.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I need to make sure that you know I was there when the crime was also committed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I made it a condition of getting a job with me, which, if that's the case, he did give Roger a job.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So if Alex is presenting it as like, if you can get me in touch with Julian Assange, I will give you a job.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Logically, I mean, he did get a job.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Did he come through with it?
		Now, this is a whole new investigation for Mueller and all.
		I'm sure whatever the reality of the situation is, they already know.
		Anybody who's been investigating this with any kind of like subpoena power and stuff like that, they already know.
		All of this is, it's no secret to official channels, but it's really funny for us on Christmas Eve that Alex Jones is in studio trying to get really defensive and accidentally reveals that he enlisted Roger Stone to contact Julian Assange.
		Then Roger Stone clearly was telling him that he did contact Julian Assange.
		I mean, remember that one episode we talked about?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Mark the Heralds, I committed treason.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Remember that episode that we did where Alex stayed up super late in order to cover the WikiLeaks anniversary special?
		Almost as if Roger Stone told him was going to be the big dumb.
		So I think Alex is, I mean, this is, this shows like, I get why you use fake quotes now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because this is, you are just the weakest possible link in this chain of propaganda.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's insane.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Buckley and everybody else who works behind the scenes at InfoWars must do so much work to make, like, to keep this on track.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because left to his own devices, he's going to just do shit like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So many people must be telling him, Alex, don't say shit about this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was debriefed by Russian agents and I didn't contact the FBI.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Stop!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, should I not have said that?
		Oh, okay.
		I directed Roger Stone to commit a crime.
		Oh, I shouldn't have said that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We got to install a cost button.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sandy Hook was 100% fake.
		Should I?
		Oh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would have loved it if he was.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Tommy Alakaya fucks children.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would love it if there was like if he were watching it and it was just sort of like everything's going normally on the show.
		And he's like, Roger, you know, during the campaign, you came to me, you told me you got fired by Fox News.
		You said you wanted a job.
		I told you that if you get me Julian Assange, I'll give you a job.
		And then just all of a sudden, let's go out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just like we're experiencing some technical difficulties.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just flashes up Alex Jones dancing out to the lobby with a hot dog.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, hot dogs have been digital.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It'd be so great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, just everybody diving over each other to hit that button at the end of the mission.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, holy shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex, even if what you're saying is innocuous, don't fucking say that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's almost like sometimes he'll take a saved by the bell break to just break the fourth wall and look at us and be like, by the way, I committed all these crimes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then turn back to Roger and be like, hey, what else are we narrating about today?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was totally expecting once Roger came on, because that's Alex giving him an introduction.
		He hasn't even said anything yet.
		I was fully expecting Roger to be like, Alex, or something like that.
		Instead, he's just like, everybody has wronged me.
		Like, all right.
		He doesn't address the idea that he, he's like, I have always told the truth about everything, and, you know, I've told the House Intelligence Committee all the truth, and the record will show that I am not a liar.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I think Roger probably likes it.
		They probably have a deal put together where Alex donates $100,000 to his legal defense fund every time he ruins his legal defense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, every time he hears dirty laundry, there's a fee.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's like a swear jar.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's like a swear jar.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So they don't talk much more about this, but they do spend a little time talking about that, the criminal justice reform and how Trump is basically like a super liberal.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's talk about that because you've got the criminal justice reform pulling trips out.
		I mean, this should be a wet dream for Democrats.
		Instead, they act like it's cyanide.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		It's really extraordinary.
		In the last couple months, Donald Trump has legalized industrial hemp.
		He has talked about removing marijuana from the Schedule I list.
		He has ended the war in Syria.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		On his way to ending the war in Afghanistan, real quick, I mean, ending the war in Syria is different than us withdrawing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not being in the war.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And also talking about legalizing marijuana or something like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, he talked about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I talk about it all the time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, he's a super liberal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's cool.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's better than not, but it's not actual progress.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's a Republican president with a Republican Congress.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Whenever he talks about marijuana reform, I imagine that everybody in the Republican-controlled Congress, again, it is a 100% Republican-controlled Congress and a Republican president and a Republican Supreme Court.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I imagine they would have no trouble accomplishing literally any Trump says, you know, he starts talking about legalized, he starts talking about medical marijuana and just from the Supreme Court, from the Senate, you just hear a resounding, legalize it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You see fucking Paul Ryan and Rand Paul put on like Rastafari hats.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		And he has reformed our criminal justice system so that people, mostly minorities, don't go to jail for 15 years for a first-time nonviolent crime of marijuana possession.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		You would think the left would be happy, but because it's Donald Trump, we are against anything that he's for.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is not true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, actually, we're pretty all right with it.
		It's not far enough.
		It doesn't go far enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But yeah, I think that's interesting.
		Because one of the first things is what we already talked about is this is just sort of an extension of things from the Obama era that are adding on to already made progress, which is good.
		I'm not taking away from it.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex and Roger are acting like the Democrats are against this criminal justice reform because Trump is in favor of it as sort of just a way to cash in on a little bit of credibility or whatever.
		But that's not true.
		The largest voices in slight opposition were Kamala Harris, who said that she didn't think the reforms went far enough, but also didn't want to let her idealism allow, quote, perfect to be the allow it to be the enemy of good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is a good way to look at it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a cliche that my high school baseball coach is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Elizabeth Warren was iffy on the bill because she also didn't feel like it went far enough, not because she was against the bill itself.
		It's just there's more we could be doing.
		Literally all 12 nay votes in the Senate were Republicans.
		The same is true of every one of the 36 nay votes in the House.
		Not a single Democrat voted against this bill.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think that's because they hated it so much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But 48 total Republicans in the House and Senate did.
		So where is your argument there?
		Your argument is non-existent.
		The idea that liberals are against this because Trump is for it, it doesn't hold water.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is nonsense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I bet there's no way you could look into those Republicans that voted against it and find them getting money from private prisons or anything like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Go talk to Marco Rubio.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's no way that that could be the case.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So all that is just nonsense.
		Roger Stone's talking shit, but he's not the only one who's way out of line.
		In this next clip, Alex is trying to get to an ad pivot, but I think he might have started drinking.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, it is Christmas Eve.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You get to taste a little tipple, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He might have gotten into the nog because he's sort of burping his way to this ad pivot in a way that really makes me uncomfortable.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're going to, on this live Christmas Eve broadcast, get into Trump's mind, why he's doing this, why he's standing up, and how the globalists are going to strike back.
		Trump believes you want prosperity.
		He believes you want freedom.
		The establishment thinks you're a bunch of idiots.
		We're about to find out what the truth is.
		Straight ahead with Roger Stone.
		Please don't forget, we still have store-wide free shipping.
		50 to 75% off storewide.
		Double patriot points and a free t-shirt.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Free t-shirt.
		Free t-shirt.
		The sales have been going so well that they are considering.
		Yeah, this is not good.
		So I'm going to suggest the argument that I don't know if he was drunk when he put Rogers' business in the streets.
		I have no idea.
		But I'm certain he started drinking.
		And it's not just that the burping there, which is glaring.
		He could have been eating a lunch or something.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, hey, he's been eating hot dogs and nachos non-stop.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course he's going to burp all the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the show takes a bit of a turn.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I know that he was saying some pretty gross stuff, especially for Christmas Eve, where he's talking about stabbing the globalists in the gut.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, getting stabbed.
		They were getting stabbed.
		He's strangling, Dan.
		It's a manly thing to strangle.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Excuse me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's weak to stab.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And very feminine to poison.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is what they're trying to do.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sorry, Dad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in this next clip, he decides that he didn't go far enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's not thrilled with his performance in that first murder rant, and he's got to get into another one, and he's going to do it to the sweet sounds of Turn the Page.
unidentified		To the engine moaning out is one lone song.
unidentified		You can think.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, I don't have a death wish for the girls.
		But you know, I'm not afraid to die.
		I've got to carry out this mission.
		I get tired when I get old.
		The main thing I want to do is set my weight against the enemy.
		So I suffocate.
		They suffocate too.
		I'm not afraid to die.
		They can know they met somebody afraid to die.
		And you don't feel much like rapping.
		Because they think they're a snake raptor on me.
		No.
		I'm the one rapper on them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And the meat shall inherit the earth.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Snug holes to make sure they never got away.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		When I start squeezing in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		When I started given shelter in the manger.
unidentified		Up on the stage.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, Roger.
		You were saying some powerful stuff during the break, but some stations don't carry this segment.
		I want you to launch into a Roger Stone-esque rant to really give us what you do behind the scenes at the office, which you never do on air in the next segment.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, look, Roger, this is usually like station identification for most of the radio stations that we're on.
		So I'm just going to ramble about being a BOA constrictor, strangling the globalists and what have you, talking about killing them.
		And when we get back, I really want you to rant well.
		So please make it look organic because the radio stations won't hear this.
		One of those things that you never do, but it's off-air.
		You're so vibrant off-air.
		Do that when we get back.
		What the fuck is this?
		Fucking nonsensical murder rant that leads into him singing one line of turn the page and then telling Roger to bring it when they come back from break because it'll actually be on the radio.
		So fucking weird.
		And again, we can't stress this enough.
unidentified		This is Christmas Eve.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The sacredest of holidays for Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Spirit of our Lord Jesus Christ.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I must tell you that I am a bullet constrictor willing to kill.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to compare myself to the very thing that Satan is compared to in my cosmology.
unidentified		Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So they do come back from break.
		And Roger Stone, I'm not entirely sure if he really brought it in the way that Alex wants him to, but he brought it in the way I wanted him to.
		And that is to say he makes the claim that he has never lied intentionally on InfoWars.
		He has never, like, because, you know, that whole thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is immediately after his apology.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is, yeah, this is about him settling that lawsuit where he lied about Miles Kwok and then had to not pay.
		I don't want to pay $100 million.
		$100 million.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to turn a tail and run on this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sir, I would like $100 million.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I totally lied about you.
		Sorry about that.
		That's on me.
		But it was Sam Nunberg's fault.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, then we'll settle this lawsuit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, perfect.
		So he's now gotten into the damage control mode of the apology, which is they're saying I lie about things.
		I did not lie, which is couched in the idea that he's like, Sam Nunberg told me bad things.
		And I didn't knowingly lie.
unidentified		Right, right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was just correcting myself.
		Now, what's interesting is that this clip is a minute long.
		And within this minute, Roger Stone will say that he never knowingly lied about anything and then proceed to lie seconds later about Alex Jones.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		Last week you saw an incredible smear.
		Stone admits to lying on InfoWars.
		I never said anything of the kind.
		In fact, let me make this clear.
		I have never reported or broadcast anything whatsoever on InfoWars or any platform that I knew at the time I reported it it was false.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Smash cut to him telling Alex that the time I reported it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Smash cut to him telling Alex that General McMaster is trying to poison Trump's Diet Cokes with a slow-acting sedative narcotic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He didn't know that wasn't true at the time he reported it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Cowardly Dodge.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nah.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		When I have made mistakes, and every American, every human being has, I have promptly corrected those mistakes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Point to what?
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		Again, that was the setup.
		That was the part of the smear, trying to establish that Roger Stone is a liar.
		I'm proud of the work that I've done here at InfoWars.
		We've broken major story after major story.
		I'm sorry that they get PO'd at CNN and MSNBC and the Associated Press and the New York Times when we're a day ahead of them with the news, when we report things before they even know them.
		But that's what we do at InfoWars.
		Tomorrow's news today.
		So what you see is an insidious smear here, Alex, and you've been experiencing it.
		You never said no one died at Sandy Hook.
		You never said no one died at Parkland High School.
		But when you say that, when you respond, when you counter-punch, they don't cover the counter-punch.
		They just continue to recycle the same smear.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in that clip, he's saying that he has never reported things that he knows are not true on InfoWars.
		15 seconds later, he says that Alex never said that no one died at Sandy Hook.
		Bad news, man.
		You know that he did.
		You know damn well that he did.
		Because if I worked for Alex Jones, let's say I didn't know, right?
		Let's say I didn't know what he did back at the time of Sandy Hook.
		If I worked for him and a bunch of people were making the accusation that he said that no one died and argued that quite a bit on his show, I would probably go and check.
		I would look into it.
		I would want to know the truth.
		Because if the person I was working for did say that, I wouldn't want to work for him.
		And if he didn't say that, I would want to be able to point to the things that people were accusing him of and be able to defend my employer, who was a noble and righteous person.
		There's no way that I would just be like, well, I'll take you at your word.
		You never said it.
		There's no way.
		The stakes are way too high.
		So the idea that Roger Stone is trying to present like, I could have plausible deniability that I don't know if it's true or not.
		He's not saying that.
		He's saying that Alex never said that Sandy Hook was fake, and he did.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They are going to hire the disgraced reporter from Der Spiegel almost immediately.
		Oh, man.
		They are going to hire him.
		Dude, whoa, whoa, whoa, I never knowingly made up those quotes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Dude, I didn't even cut that stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they were talking about him?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, quite a bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, because they were saying that he's going to get a job at CNN.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Kind of made the same joke you did.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fair enough.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I apologize and retract that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Read my mind.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Retract that joke 100%.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, they were talking about it, and they were trying to present it as like he was basically only writing fake stories about how white people in Texas hate Mexicans.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, that's what he was writing stories about?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They try and create it as like he was trying to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Award-winning journalist for German newspaper Der Spiegel was only writing about Texans.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, Alex was trying to create the perception that the lies and the fake stories that he wrote about were all trying to foment racial division and stuff like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
		No, no, no, of course.
		That makes sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a bit of a stretch.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But not as much of a stretch as this next clip.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Roger Stone, the supposed Russian mastermind.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you notice, though, too?
		It is important.
		He's breathing a lot heavier than he was before.
		You could hear, I'm going to start this clip over.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He sounds like Darth Vader.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Listen to this breathing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Roger Stone, the supposed Russian mastermind.
		There's no proof of it, but two years in, Robert Mueller, the bagman for uranium for Hillary to the Russians.
		The man who many believe is the top KGB agent in the United States, basically.
		Now, Yaf SB, many people, is in a giant prosecution against President Trump in a desperate attempt to stop us recovering our economy and rebuilding our military.
		The man who had boosted our economy over $4 trillion, we're now told as a Russian agent by people handled by the Russians.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Mueller is a KGB agent, probably the top KGB agent in the United States.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That sounds right.
		Cool.
		I mean, if you were a former director of the FBI and then became an FBI or a Kremlin agent, or if you were a Kremlin agent, then you became head of the FBI.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You are the top KGB agent.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're the top agent, period.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, for any country.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're not even either.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're your own thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're the winner.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		None of that is real.
		And the uranium and stuff, we've talked about that a hundred times.
		That's a lot of bullshit.
		I just, I get the sense.
		As I was listening to this, I ended up having to watch some clips of it.
		I was just listening to it as the radio show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But some stuff ended up becoming so extreme that I had to be like, I got to see this.
		Theater of the mind will not do.
		I had to confirm that he was actually doing the things that he said he was doing, which we'll get to in a minute.
		But I was watching this, and I really get the sense that he wasn't drunk when he started the show, and he's drunk by this point.
		I think he started taking some shots or something like that.
		I'm not sure at which point – at what point exactly?
		Hard to nail down, but he is not the same level of sober that he – it's not consistent.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everybody enjoys a nice Christmas bourbon, Dan.
		Everybody enjoys a nice little tipple on the Christmas Eve.
		You know, you're 14 and your parents are like, hey, guess what?
		We're all going to enjoy this nice little brandy together.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My friend, I'm.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		One of those parents is Alex Jones, and he drinks all the brandy by himself during his show.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I want to make it clear.
		I'm not judging in any way.
		I'm not some sort of Puritan who's saying, don't drink, but I am.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		At work, I am.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I am a Puritan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not even on that tip.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Back when I used to work at Groupon, it was nothing but booze.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or even at that coffee place.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A lot of booze on Fridays, especially.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That sounds great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's, you know, I get it.
		People are adults.
		No big deal.
		I do think that when you're in a position where you're putting out dangerous rhetoric into the world about things that matter, you probably should, if you're drunk, you better be right.
		You better have all of your ducks in a row.
		Right.
		If you're going to be wrong and that sort of fun, fun, like, hey, I'm buzzed.
		Isn't this cool?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That just doesn't work.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When you're carrying water for things that lead to the deaths of people around the world and you're flippantly drunk and fun at work, it's not, you can't do that.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because I don't need to say why.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would hope not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's clear.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of like shackling pregnant women.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It really shouldn't have been a conversation we needed to have.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in this next clip, Alex wants to talk economy, baby.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And I am assuming that he is going to talk about the massive stock drop and how it was one of the worst days since the Great Depression.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You bet he is.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But this is really the big one.
		Because if people don't get this and how obvious it is that there's nothing they won't put up with.
		The latest financial news is up on DrudgeReport.com.
		Because Drudge gets this is the big story.
		Stocks extend fall despite Moonshin bid to reassure investors.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Moonshin.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Moonshine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was going to say, did he just say, did he just say Moonshin?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You would really think if you were in love with Donald Trump, you would know how to say Steve Mnuchin.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Moonshin?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Moonchin.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You would think.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He has a crescent chin.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course his nickname is Moonchin.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You'd think you'd know the guy.
		It reminds me of how he couldn't pronounce Tim Geithner for a really long time.
		It's just one of those.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ethner.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Have you only seen this in print?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, what is going on?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Have you seen this in print?
		Is this a new name?
		Have you only heard this name and you just don't understand English like the rest of us?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is this spelled phonetically but wrong?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex, Alex, sound it out, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sound it out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nuchin.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sound it out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think Buckley writes his scripts, but it's all just like phonetic pictographs.
		That's what it is.
		I don't know.
		This is nonsense.
		But anyway, to his point.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Presidents get involved in the Plunge Protection Team or the President's group on open markets all the time, but the media hopped it like, look, they're trying to boost the market.
		That shows it's desperate.
		Dump, dump, dump.
		So mainstream media is saying dump stocks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They didn't say that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I really don't think so.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Teach Americans lessons.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did they say that?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then they think you don't have a memory.
		They'll tell you in a week, oh, look, the stock market tanked.
		It's Trump's fault.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
		Oh, and he says there at the end, when they did it.
		They didn't do that.
		You're accusing people doing things they didn't do, and the stock market jumped way back up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So like none of he's just trying to like all he's doing is being opportunistic about the circumstances that are in front of him right in the moment, not taking into consideration that what happens tomorrow might be a piece of the story that you're unaware of.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What happened yesterday is a part of the story.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm kind of still fascinated.
		I'm still fascinated whenever we do have those.
		Here's the stock market update on regular news outlets because by this point they should know that the stock market update doesn't really affect anything in anybody's life.
		And it's all automated.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's filling time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's built around.
		And now it's massively artificial intelligence based.
		Like, nobody knows what the fuck is going on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's the same thing with, like, I mean, all those news shows, even the local news that have to fill an hour every day.
		Yeah, that's true.
		Like, you still have time you've got to fill, and you're just not great at it.
		That's why companies like Sinclair are so insidious, is because they offer a solution to a problem that a lot of news stations have, which is filling that time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A lot of that stock kind of stuff is, yeah, whoever's watching doesn't need that necessarily.
		Same thing with weather.
		Like, most weather reports are unnecessary.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, come on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How dare you?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I want Tom Skilling.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You want Skilling out of a job?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He is a Chicago staple.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't give a shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look, I have to say that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If Danny will reference Skilling, then you don't have any choice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have a deep-seated distrust of weathermen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I really think.
unidentified		Really?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that they are arch perverts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Whoa!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, whoa.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		See, here's the thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a jump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Meteorology is something that not a lot of people get into studying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I actually heard that Weinstein invented meteorology.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's possible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's why you know they're already to believe it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not something that tons of people study.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the subset of the people who study it who are also camera-ready is a very small group.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So these people who are charismatic enough and actually can discuss meteorological things and the weather and not sound like complete idiots reading a script, those sorts of people know that their jobs are so fucking protected.
		And when they go to cities like Chicago, LA, New York, those sorts of things, and become institutions on the news, like Tom Skilling.
		I'm not saying anything specific about him at all.
		Yeah, but people like him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if people like him so much as he's just around.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm saying people similar to him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ah, yeah.
		Oh, oh, okay.
		Now I got it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They know that they have the definition of job security.
		So I'm not saying they're doing criminally perverted things.
		I'm just saying that I don't trust them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That there are no consequences for their actions.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why can't we bring in that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You've seen the topless women, the topless Russian women who do the news.
unidentified		We can bring those in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm unaware of this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everybody's aware of the topless women, the topless Russian women specifically.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Listen, we're too puritanical for that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We demand that our weathermen do pervy things off-air.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, I don't know, just a theory.
		Anyway, yes, I agree.
		Your point, stock stuff is unnecessary.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Point taken.
		So we have one more clip before everything goes completely wrong on this episode.
		And this clip I'm only playing because I think it is super important.
		And that is, I wrestle from time to time with the idea of what we do.
		Because Alex is, you know, his show is copyrighted.
		He owns it.
		And there is a slight fear in my mind that one day he'll just decide to sue us for copyright infringement?
		Yeah, that sort of thing.
		And I know that generally speaking, what we do falls under fair use rules and things like that, but I never want to deal with it.
		Like, I'd never want to open that.
		And I'm playing this next clip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've always wanted to represent myself in court.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That sounds great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Pro se.
		I'm only playing this next clip because it's Alex giving us permission to use his content.
		Oh, okay.
		So let this stand on the record.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All our stuff's free to air.
		People send me emails all the time.
		Can I put InfoWars on the side of my barn?
		Yeah, First Amendment says you can.
		I'm begging you, please do it.
		We're free to air.
		I'm not sitting here territorializing what we do.
		Plus, you have that right.
		Just get the information out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're doing our best, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Can we use your show?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is that tacit approval?
unidentified		Cool.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, buddy.
		Hey, can we ask you for other favors?
		Like, could you please sue us so we can just play that clip in court?
		I would love that.
		I just want to get sued for that specific.
		We're using digital copyright millennium rules to take you down, and we'll just play that clip in court and the judge will be like judgment in favor of knowledge factors.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, like I said, everything goes off the rails.
		And I think it's because Alex has been having some booze.
		And also, his guests.
		Oh, also, by the way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Does he talk about Christmas?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A tiny bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
		I mean, he mentions that he's not going to have his rebroadcast on Christmas.
		But in terms of the Christmas story, what Christmas means, a Christmas message of love.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or even anything Christian at all.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He hasn't even really gotten religious.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's talked about devils, which is his version of Christian.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Good point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's talked about the tarot deck.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is his version of Christian.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I will say that there are a couple times that I just didn't cut because it seemed like excessive and repetitive.
		But most of the times he mentions Christmas at all, it's in an ad pivot.
		It's just like it's the, you know, Christmas here, and, you know, you can, you know, we're not going to be able to get you the product by Christmas, but give us money.
		That sort of thing.
		There is very little Christmas in this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But one gift that he gives America is that Owen Benjamin is now hosting the fourth hour from time to time, which I didn't realize.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Failed comedian.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Real dum-dum.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Guy who's not welcome in the intellectual dark web.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Owen Benjamin is now an InfoWars fourth hour host.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And boy, woof.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is his comedy career doing better now?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Great.
		He's doing great.
		Good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm worried about that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is not where it goes off the rails.
		It goes off the rails in the third hour.
		Because before he hands the baton to Owen Benjamin, he has a guest on the show.
		It's actually two dudes.
		And these people don't belong on air at all.
		What they have done, I can't even remember their names, but it sounds something like the Spaghetti Brothers.
		It's very close.
		Okay.
		Sangatini Bro.
unidentified		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who cares?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The Great Santini?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They created a flash game about Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So it's a Flash game.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They created a Flash game.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Where you can Google this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like Alex versus the NPCs or something like that.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the entire.
		I watched someone beat the game.
		It takes four minutes.
		And all it is is a cartoon, a crudely drawn cartoon of Alex walking across a plane, and he has a hatchet in his hand.
		He has like an axe.
		And then somebody, there will be like a clip of Lester Holt or somebody on TV saying something critiquing of Alex.
		And you have to hit the button at the right time, and it hits them with an axe.
unidentified		Yeah, okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So it's like the plot of Air Force One.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you successfully axe all of them on the way to the end goal, Trump shows up as the sun and smiles upon you.
		Oh.
		It's very fucked up, and also probably took them an hour and a half.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		15, 20 minutes?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to say an hour and a half.
unidentified		Yeah, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's my guess.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But because the game is about Alex, you're a guest on our show.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he thinks it's the best thing in the world.
unidentified		Absolutely.
		Yeah, you can do any search for NPC versus Alex Jones or Alex Jones versus NPC.
		You'll find us right there on the first page of the video, or the game will be available there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And the video has been linked to the game.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can search the name of the video.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Trump is the sun.
unidentified		That which puts me on a gun going, I like my buttons.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I love Trump being the sun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Love Trump being the sun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Reminds me of Mario, where the sun is the bad guy.
		And Mario 3.
		Wasn't that right?
		Isn't that?
		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which Mario game's at?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Mario 2?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, that's not the sun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's just that creepy Phanto.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the sun, like the actual sun in the desert world.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's Super Mario 3.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, where you have to jump over the sun.
		That freaked me out as a fucking kid.
		That's what Trump being the son reminds me of, is the evil son of a man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The evil son who attacks you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You got to stay out of his flight path.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this video game, which I hesitate to call a video game because of its simplicity, but this game, it's Alex Jones killing people with an axe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he fucking loves that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't understand the metaphor there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's taking down these NPCs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, with an axe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Saving the world from, and each time you kill one of them, a new logo will pop up on the side of the screen of what he is describing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Destroy like CNN.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And all of them made sense as it was going along, but then one of them was Pinterest.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Wait, did Alex have beef with Pinterest?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What's going on?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		When was the last time you saw a pin on Pinterest of Alex Jones?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to teach you how to make an apple pie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That would be nice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't eat that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would watch a cooking show if Alex was doing it, though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My very drunk kitchen?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The great fake British bake-off.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just him doing that.
unidentified		We're going to make some fucking turnovers or whatever it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fancy assholes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So because the video game involves him killing people with an axe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He finds an axe in studio.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And this leads to trouble.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why does he have an axe in studio?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did he also call that 12-year-old and have him kill a piggy bank again?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, that wasn't a 12-year-old.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That was an adult.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Whatever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He was talking like it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There were similarities in these two interviews because he was trying to impress and hang with that guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You kill your piggy bank.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, look, I'm cool and I'm young.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Kill that dog.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What do you think about this NPC meme, guys?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's going to go away.
		But these guys didn't think that.
		They decided to make a fucking game out of it.
		But he's trying to impress them, and so he pulls out his big axe.
		I believe it's maybe a hatchet.
		And this is why I had to go find the video.
		Because if you listen to this clip, I don't think you'll believe that it accurately describes what is going on in studio.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's go back to our friends.
		There's no one in the studio right now.
		I don't know where they're at this crazy tomahawk.
		Seriously, what are these doing around the office?
		But there's camera five about 30 feet away.
		And the question is, can I hit camera five?
		No training.
		The problem is I can definitely get it, but that light's in my way.
		This is going to mess up.
		I don't want to mess up anything.
		But this is the kind of stuff you do on Christmas Eve.
		Let me see.
		What?
		I'm going to do it.
		I'm going to do it.
		It's all right.
		Hit the light.
		See, I told you the light was in the way.
		Hey, I get three chances.
		Bring the hatchet back.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You are drunk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's in the middle of his show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow, is he drunk?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In studio, he pulls out a hatchet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's like, I bet I can hit that camera in my professional TV studio with a fucking hatchet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That insanely cheap camera that costs us almost no money.
unidentified		Uh-uh.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And at a time when we are absolutely not hemorrhaging shit tons of money, I am going to throw this hatchet in a metaphor for how I feel about my own show at this point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I wish to destroy the things that allow me to go deeper into this world that I am in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's deeply fucked up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Subconscious crying for help right there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I feel like there is a bit of that, which Christmas is a time for that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not hatchet throwing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, this is the type of thing you do on Christmas Eve.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did he say that out loud?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He did.
		You know, Christmas is the time where you throw fucking hatchets at electronics.
		That's what you do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Jesus.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I thought, first of all, when I heard that, I was like, what?
		What the fuck's going on here?
		Because it's so out of line with not only his show most of the time, but the rest of this episode, too.
		I was like, yeah, he's got to just be fucking around with these guys or something.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Found the video.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's straight up throwing hatchets around the show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's a real, it's a real hatchet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you bet.
		And it's not small.
		It's a pretty big hatchet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why does he have hatchets hanging around the studio?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did somebody get him hatchets?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to allow it because maybe there's a toolkit somewhere or something like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		With hatchets?
		I don't fucking know.
		With multiple hatchets.
		It's not the same hatchet each time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's one hatchet.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has one hatchet as far as I can tell.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		That is way more acceptable because the way you made it sound, it was like he had a bunch of hatchets.
		Like, hey, where did I find this Santa Claus bag filled with hatchets?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has a bunch of guns, one hatchet, as far as I can tell.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And this is actually kind of, it might be Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That internet video fucked me up.
		Two guns, one hatchet.
		Did you see that one?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This also might be Alex's soft launch into trying to get the Juggalos to like him by doing some hatchet play.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The Juggalos would not like you, Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So when I was watching this, like I said, completely blown away by what's happening.
		And then I thought when he said, I get another try, I thought that someone in the studio would be like, you've had enough.
		Nah, Alex, calm down.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it does not go that way.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He gets the hatchet back and tries again.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Can someone bring the hatchet back?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're drunk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're going to do it.
		Go back to Alex Jones.
		I'll get my own hatchet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex, you're drunk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Go back to Alex Jones.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is Christmas Eve.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, real quick, that's audio of the game.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It has that shitty guitar riff in it.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he's flashing back to pictures of the video of the game while one of his attendants or whatever is getting the hatchet back for him, and he's probably taking another drink while the camera is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's a-de-camps, if you will.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes, absolutely.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That can't do things in simulation.
		No, no.
		You don't approve of it?
		No, no, no.
		No one's in here.
		Go to your other room.
		All right, back to me.
		Let me see if I can get camera five now because I was going to get it.
		It's a good 30 feet away.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He just threw it again.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He hit a TV.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We got to keep going here.
		Because third time's the charm right now with the hatchet.
		It's Christmas Eve.
		My God, here.
		We're doing good here with the hatchet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You guys are the ones that run the hatchet.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We can't just do this in like the third dimension or the fourth dimension.
		All right, this is the final shot.
		If I can't make it now, I'm no good.
unidentified		Media dies.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Stuck in the wall, but I didn't get it.
		All right, it was all 3D.
		None of it was real.
		None of it was real.
		Oh, my God.
		Can we zoom in on that TV over there?
		That is badass.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he did hit a camera, or he hit TV.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He had a light, he had a TV, and he stuck the hatchet in the wall.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The third throw hit the wall, and they panned to where it hit.
		It was literally like six inches from a fire extinguisher.
		If he had nailed that fire extinguisher, it would have been a giant explosion in the studio.
		Like, this is crazy levels of irresponsible.
		I think that there's something really funny about it.
		If this is a show, like, I don't know, some sort of shock jock show or something like that.
		Like, if this isn't Alex Jones, this is amazing radio.
		This is a lunatic drunkenly throwing a hatchet around.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is Abby's True TV or whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		Yeah, if I saw this in a different context, I'd be all for it.
		And on some level, I am for it.
unidentified		All he's doing is destroying his own things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This just broke my heart because, god damn it, if the best Christmas gift in history wouldn't be the headline, Alex Jones throws hatchet, blows up his own studio.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, think about it.
		That'd be insane.
		I mean, it wouldn't blow up the studio, but it would cause shrapnel.
		Like, if he had hit the fire extinguisher, like, the way they panned to it, it's clear that the camera operator was very close to where that hatchet ended up hitting.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, like, if he had hit the guy at the camera with the hatchet, that would have been crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fucked up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or if he had hit the fire extinguisher, a piece of metal probably would have shot out and hit the, might have hit one of his staff members.
		That could be incredibly fucked up.
		He narrowly dodged a real crisis.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would have given anything for him to have hit a gas line and then, like, just then at the end of the show, been like, ah, it's Christmas Eve, guys.
		I think it's time to light up a cigar.
		Click, click, click.
		I just won't like, can somebody else get me a lighter?
		All right.
		Boom.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Chestnuts, boom.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		On an open studio.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Closed studio.
unidentified		So good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Secret location studio.
		So he's drunk as shit.
		He's drunk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's like a level of, like, whoever's in charge, like, he keeps saying no one's here, but there are people there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which leads me to believe that, like, Buckley or his dad or whoever normally keeps him in check isn't there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what he means by that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's why it's okay for him to throw a hatchet around.
		No one's here who's actually going to get you in trouble.
		You guys, be cool.
		I'm the fun guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I own the place.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm your fun parent.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm the guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just have a good time.
		Hey, you guys want to smoke a little weed?
		Because I'm going to throw a fucking hatchet at you.
		So is that what you want?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, I still think, even though there's no authority figure there, he went too far.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So they go to commercial, they get done with this interview, and he comes back from commercial, and he has clearly been told you're done for the day.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Infowars has given the gift a thought.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did you get away?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		God, I love that all that Christmas snow on the ground.
		My daughters love that.
		Only had that once.
		Went to Colorado like 10 years ago.
		My daughters weren't even born then.
		I got $3.
		God almighty, I bless her.
		You know, I've got a special report I want to hear about LeBron James, who is a good-looking, really talented guy, but he's a traitor.
		Against humanity, he's a real piece of crap.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he ends up playing like a 10-minute special report that he recorded apparently the day before in a hotel room.
		It's clearly an instance of like whoever is there and on the level is like, Alex, you're in no shape to be on air.
		You're throwing a hatchet around the studio for no fucking reason.
		We keep telling you, What are you, my dad?
		You could hear while he was throwing the hatchet, there were people who were like, and he was pushing back against it.
		It was clearly the thing that's like, we need to save you from yourself.
		You're done.
		It's the third hour.
		Owen Benjamin will be here to host the fourth hour shortly.
		Just throw it to a special report.
		That's all you have to do.
		You've got to go to bed.
		Or you've got to take a nap or get some coffee in you or something because you're a danger to yourself and our show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You literally, you are a physical danger to everyone here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Before you were even that drunk, you admitted that you told Roger to contact Assange.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everybody's fine with that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What are you going to do if we let you do the next 15 minutes?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's kind of the fun of a really awful asshole boss, though, is whenever he admits to committing treason on air, you're like, ha ha ha, this is going to be a good day.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		So that's where we leave off because who cares about his LeBron James report?
		It's a lot of fun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, we don't want to know about his LeBron James report?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A lot of bullshit.
unidentified		Oh, we don't want to know about might be racially charged.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also very relevant to Christmas.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, LeBron did, You know, he got injured on Christmas Day, so that could be Alex's doing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Could be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Could be the Patriots.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, he didn't tear his groin, though, so that could be.
		It's a double miracle.
		Alex gets what he wants, but we also get to have LeBron back next week.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Everybody wins a little bit.
		So, yeah, I mean, this is all to say Merry Christmas to one and all.
		This was crazy because when I sat down, I really expected, I fully fucking expected Alex to take a day off from the nonsense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I thought it was going to be all religion, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He did too.
		Yeah.
		I thought it was going to be a retelling of the story of Christmas, maybe with him misinterpreting some things.
		I thought it was going to be funny, like him trying to weave around the idea of not allowing immigrants.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		While at the same time, being like, Jesus would never have been born if they didn't allow immigrants.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I thought there was going to be something like that, a repackaging of Christmas mythology, something.
		And instead, we get, I told Roger to contact Julian Assange.
		We get, I'm drunk and throwing an axe around the fucking studio.
unidentified		We get, I'm incapable of evil.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just, he's so far gone that he is unpredictable on a level that is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's funny if you detach a little bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Devoid of the world we live in.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is hilarious.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In the world we live in.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's terrifying and very sad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's like if you're an uncle and you go to your brother or sister's place and their kids are just hell raises and they're throwing shit all around and you're like, ha ha ha, I'm the uncle.
		I'm going to fucking, yeah, let's get these guys doing all kinds of crazy shit.
		I'm your fun uncle.
		But if you're the parents, you're like, this motherfucker has burned goddamn the White House to the ground.
		Or is ruining everything and you're breaking everything.
		You need to stop it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or even if you're the uncle, but you guys live in like a duplex or live next door or something.
		Or live in the same house or whatever.
		You're like, yeah, we have to share an apartment of a country.
		And it's unfortunate how not too far outside the conservative mainstream, a lot of the beliefs that he's espousing are, which is really, really scary.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's a child.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		On fucking Christmas Eve, this is what he brings to the table.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But that's fucking nonsense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That I can't do evil speech is clearly guilt.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like that I can't do evil speech is 100% his way of expressing how guilty he feels about all the evil that he's doing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is what you do on Christmas.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sat and throw a hatchet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The thing that's even crazier is that the fundamental premise of his existence is to be basically a Christian white Western apologist.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like that is what he does.
		That's what he's done almost his entire career, dating back to the days of Waco in Oklahoma City Roots.
		Coming into studio on Christmas Eve and doing some sort of a fake intellectualized version of why Christmas is great serves that purpose.
		And the fact that he can't even get there to do that means he's not having fun with anything.
		The only thing he can have fun with anymore is getting really drunk and throwing an axe around his studio.
		And that doesn't bode well for 2019.
unidentified		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it bodes well for me because I still think it's hilarious.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		This is way better than a normal present-day Alex episode.
		If he starts throwing hatchets as a segment, I'm in.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I feel empathy, but at the same time, I also think it's good radio.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is good radio.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, Merry Christmas, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Merry Christmas, Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I wish you nothing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Salhin.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We'll see what he does for New Year's.
unidentified		That'll probably be even better.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He is going to be drunk as shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would love to see him do a countdown.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, we might end up finding out what the secret of 2019 is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shit, we're going to have to do so many secrets of.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can't wait to find out what that is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We didn't get a secret of 2018.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We didn't, but we might get the secret of 2019 because the Christmas gift of InfoWars is the knowledge of the future.
unidentified		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what we learned earlier.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's fantastic.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, this is the end of the episode.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex committed a crime, everybody.
		Just in case anybody missed it.
		It's weird how our episodes work and that the single biggest news that happened is that Alex literally said that he directed Roger to commit a crime.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, yeah.
		There is that.
		The only reason I don't put too much stock in it is that I do believe Alex when he's saying that because it doesn't feel like his normal lying.
		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The way he's expressing that and being like, we talked off-air.
		You and I know that.
		I'm not telling your business.
		He's defensive about telling it.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's almost like I don't want to say this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If it was something that he was like, I don't mean to brag, but I told you to do this whole thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or if he was like, I was there, you were working at Fox and you came on to Inforce.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'll leave it at that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is the sort of thing that he always does.
		The fact that he actually spelled out the, I wanted to hire you on the condition that you got in touch with Julian Assange.
		I mean, it's fucked up.
		It's very fucked up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's fucked up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I still don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I still don't know what actions Alex could or could not have taken that reach the level of crime.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dear FBI.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it seems bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It seems like he shouldn't be saying that all of them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't even think we need it.
		That's not even like a Mueller thing.
		That's just like a regular FBI thing.
		Hey, regular FBI not investigating this shit.
		Maybe this guy committed a crime.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it fills in some sort of timeline questions and stuff like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It sure does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like the idea of when was Roger actively trying to get in touch with Julian Assange?
		I mean, obviously, Alex does know because he told him to.
		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And we know that it wasn't while he was part of the official campaign.
		That's true.
		So this is after, and presumably after he's been let go by Fox News, he doesn't have a gig.
		He gets this bullshit offer from Alex.
		And then he starts saying, I want to help the Trump campaign out, which is kind of leveraging his unfair.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Even like, so he, Roger left the campaign.
		I believe he quit.
		I don't think he got fired.
		I think that was an intentional fake beef.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
		But he left in August of 2016.
		I'm sorry, 2015.
		Yeah.
		And when he left, even after Trump was saying that he fired him and all that shit, Roger was very clear publicly that he still supported Trump.
		Yeah, yeah.
		Like all that.
		Some of it was couched in being anti-Hillary, but it was also if the perception was that he was fired, it looks very magnanimous that he still supports Trump.
		And if he quit, if you believe he quit, it looks like he just believes so strongly in what Trump stands for that his whole line on it was, I wasn't being effective in the campaign.
		I could help out better outside.
		So he never, even though he quit/slash got fired, whatever, like even though that, he never stopped supporting Trump.
		So from the jump in the campaign, no matter at what point he was trying to reach out to WikiLeaks, whether it be at the behest of Trump or Alex, which is a weird thing that we now have to consider.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was still under the aegis of the campaign.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he has to be.
unidentified		He has to be thinking that he's going to get a pardon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the only way any of his actions make sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the only way.
		He's figuring he's going to get an HW deal.
		Of course he'll take a Nixon deal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Course, he'll take a lot of the heat, like in terms of being a lightning rod for attention with his lawsuit against Mueller and stuff.
		Roger will sort of slide a little bit.
		The information will come out.
		They'll deny it.
		They'll say fake news, all this stuff, blah blah blue.
		I tried to get in touch with him.
		Sure, I was unsuccessful.
		X, Y, or Z. He'll get a pardon because why bring the candle?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They can indict a ham sandwich.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It'll be something like that, probably.
		I don't know.
		Or maybe it won't.
		Who fucking knows?
		I have no idea.
		All I know is what Alex tells me, and what he told me is he told Roger to contact Julie Massange.
		So, Merry Christmas, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		As a special Christmas gift, Alex, please tell us about more crimes you have committed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or throw more axes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That'd be great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Throw an axe our way at our website, knowledgefight.com.
unidentified		Nice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not that nice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's all right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We also have an axe Twitter.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's KnowledgeUnderscore Fight.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can find us on Facebook.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep, we're there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We have a group called Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Indeed, you can find us on the iTunes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Throw a subscribe, throw a review, throw an axe our way, baby.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we get to the end of this episode, and I will say that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'll say right now: the cameraman who got an axe thrown near his way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did not kill anybody.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But one guy, not with an axe, probably.
		But he did kill a guy, technically, probably Alex Jones.
		Could have been two today.
		Thankfully, it was not.
		Alex Jones technically probably killed a guy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified		I'm a huge fan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love your work.

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