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Sept. 1, 2016 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor
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Trump Firm as Ever on Immigration
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Welcome to another edition of Renaissance Radio.
We have with us again today the inimitable Paul Kersey, the chief empresario and presiding genius of stuff black people don't like.
One of the foremost commentators on our times in the country today.
Welcome back. So glad you could join us.
Jared, on this great day, I couldn't think of a better person to be speaking with than you.
One of the true titans of our time period.
Oh, heavens. No, it's true.
It's true. It's true.
But tell me, why is it a great day, Mr.
Kersey? You know, Jared, last night I wasn't even...
I wasn't even thinking about watching Trump's speech.
I thought that what happened in Mexico was just so profoundly important of just how good Trump looked in terms of the optics of his trip to Mexico.
And so I was doing other things and then I just happened to come in front of my computer because I've cut the cord and went to Fox and just...
I'll watch a little of the speech.
Got on Twitter so I could see what people's reactions were.
And as he began to lay out his platform where he spoke of, you know, I went to Mexico and I'm so proud of the Mexican people and that their president puts the Mexican people first.
And then hearing Trump assert at the very beginning of his speech, I love my country and I put my countrymen first.
You knew something special was going to happen.
You know, this is one of those speeches that our grandkids will study if things go our way.
It really is one of those speeches.
Yes, I certainly agree.
And I will be the first to confess that when he started talking about how I love my country and Mexicans love their country and Pina Nieto and I are going to work together for the good of both countries, I thought he was beginning to wobble.
And when he started talking about how we must make sure that all of these criminal illegal aliens must be kicked out, I thought he was beginning to wobble.
But no, he came through with a speech that I think is nothing short of brilliant.
I don't think anybody in the entire alt-right could have written a better speech for him.
That's a powerful and 100% true statement.
More importantly, because of the way that it was framed in terms of shifting the narrative and basically changing.
Let me step back for a second and just talk about the ending.
How he basically framed the entire conversation about the Democrats.
They want to exist in a world where angel moms...
Happen every day. Because they have no problem with allowing anyone into our country because, I guess, as Hillary said, no one should be deprived of the right to be an American.
Everyone out there is an American waiting to be born or be...
Sworn in as an American.
And the way that I kind of think of it, all Trump was saying is, hey, we want to reinstitute the rule of law and get rid of the rule in favor of the minority law that President Obama, that President Bush, that President Clinton, that President Reagan, President Carter, and President Nixon, that they all basically have allowed to proliferate since the passing of that evil 1965 Immigration Act.
Well, you know, I think maybe even more important than underlining the importance of the rule of law and carrying out and executing the law was his straightforward statement about the importance of immigration being in the service of the United States and not of immigrants.
He actually came out and said, some are capable of assimilating, some are not.
And we have no interest in welcoming those who are not going to assimilate, not going to be self-supporting.
This idea of actually scrutinizing potential immigrants in terms of what they can do for the United States.
I think that is a hugely important step, and I haven't heard a major politician talk in those terms, oh, not since probably Pat Buchanan.
It was a complete repudiation of the New Colossus that was regrettably placed on the Statue of Liberty in 1903, basically saying, no, merit is what matters, not the huddled masses and the wretched refuse of teeming shores, the homeless.
Basically, he was saying the lamp is lifted.
For the golden door for those who merit inclusion, because we are not only the gatekeepers, but we are the bouncers who get to the side, basically saying, hey, for too long, we basically allow people to come in here without IDs.
Basically, if we're going to stick with that analogy, hey, let's let just anyone come in here, regardless of their dress code.
Basically, he wants to create a high-end club again, as opposed to a cheap roadhouse.
Where American liberty is routinely, you know, I won't use the word I want to use, but it's raped on a daily, on a nightly and a daily basis.
And this is, it's such an exciting time to be alive.
And Jared, I do want to take a moment here to congratulate you on the tireless work that you've done over the past, gosh, 26, 25 years since American Renaissance was founded because you have stuck through some very dark times where these ideas weren't supposed to be talked about, where you had the door slammed in your face.
And now, just like I told you it was going to happen, Hillary decided to make an ad with your voice in it, and then she decided to attack you again, what, two nights ago on her own website?
And the amount of publicity that the ideas you've espoused for so long and Never wavered from advocating.
We are at a moment where it's hard to describe what's happening because none of us could have ever seen this happening when Donald Trump and his beautiful wife descended from the top floor at Trump Tower last June when he announced his decision to run, that we're now at this moment.
It's awe-inspiring to see what could come tomorrow.
Yes, it's the culmination of a great deal of work and he expresses the hopes of many people and even though it is a mistake to blame him for the alt-right or to say that he even consciously appeals to people like us, he has in an instinctive way arrived at positions that are good for America and positions that are good for America are good for the majority and will slow this process of disposition.
So, if you don't mind, I'd just very briefly like to go through the ten points that he raised in his speech as parts of his policy.
And the first one, of course, is build a wall.
I thought there was absolutely no chance that he was going to backtrack on that, so he's going to build a wall.
Point two is he's going to end catch and release.
What do you see as the significance of that?
Yeah, I'm looking at a breakdown of these plots right now and basically he's saying, You come across, you're going back.
It's pretty cut and dry.
I mean, you come into America illegally from Canada, from Mexico, or from ports, you know, whether it's an airport, whether it's on a boat, by land, by sea, by boat, by plane, you're going back.
It's really simple.
He's basically asserting the rule of law here.
It's that simple. That's right.
That's right. The idea that we have had all of these people detained by the immigration authorities who have clearly come to the country illegal, who are then let into the country.
This is something that baffles ordinary Americans.
It certainly baffles the Border Patrol.
They've never been so demoralized by this kind of thing.
So doing something as simple as executing the laws as they were meant to be carried out.
I think that's absolutely wonderful.
And it's astonishing that it should even be controversial by any stretch of the imagination.
And then point three here, zero tolerance for criminal aliens.
Again, how could that possibly be controversial?
If you're an immigrant, if you're certainly an illegal, you commit a crime, boom!
Out! Out! Why could that even be controversial?
That's the thing I don't understand.
You hear a lot of people after this speech.
I know you were on Twitter last night.
I've been on Twitter throughout the day when I've had the opportunity to and seen people write that they were shaking as they heard Trump go about these ideas.
And every nation on earth has this sensible immigration plan if they want to have a nation
and not be colonized or conquered.
Because guess what?
That's what allowing the free flow of people without vetting, that's what ends up happening.
Especially once they procreate.
But of course with America and all the unbelievable welfare we bestow on individuals, it's just
crazy.
You know, I've got a friend, I won't say what county he's a cop in, but he's told me that
we would be shocked if we knew how many illegal alien gangs were among us.
And this is in one of the biggest counties in the state you live in.
And he said, we know where they all are.
And if we were just allowed to do our job, we could end the threat almost instantaneously.
Donald Trump touched on that.
He said, the police know who those people are.
They know They are criminals.
Out! Out! Again, this is such common sense.
And I would love to see how Hillary Clinton reacts to Donald Trump when he puts this tour as explicitly as possible.
Is she going to defend this kind of thing?
She might. But anyway, point four, of course, is blocking funding for sanctuary cities.
An obvious step.
Here you have localities that are flouting federal law.
Well, the fact is I don't approve of the fact that the Feds can push us all around by denying federal funding, but insofar as we have that system in place, we might as well use it for once to benefit us rather than benefiting other people.
Then point five is cancel Obama's executive orders.
Again, that's something that he should be able to do his very first three minutes in office.
Well, Republicans should have fought harder to impeach this guy over these really...
Obama's basically become...
a an emperor in a lot of ways where anything that he does people are just so frightened to go after i mean the only time someone's really tried to stop try to stop obama outside of texas with their lawsuit couple other states is when joe wilson said you lie about obamacare for illegal aliens i can't think of anything republicans have have done otherwise except for the rise of trump which has basically forced uh the gop and to uh begrudgingly but now i think you're seeing a lot of people step forward realizing wow I don't think we even realized how much support the American people were willing to give in defense of their nation.
And, you know, you're right.
I think you wanted to call it, what, Kate Steinle's law, which is fantastic.
And that's the beautiful thing about what Trump did, Jared, if I could real quick, is he tried to talk about all the individuals who have been harmed by putting a face on how these laws would have, if they were in place already, they would have Made it so that our fellow Americans, whether they're Border Patrol agents or Kate Steinle in San Francisco, she'd still be alive. And to really reframe the issue is as our current government and those involved in government have a hand in the deaths of our countrymen.
Yes, yes. I agree 100%.
Ordinarily, I'm a very hard-nosed guy.
I like data. I like statistics.
I am not interested in individual sob stories.
But when he put those, what is he, the angels, the angels of America, what does he call them?
The angel moms. The angel moms.
That's right. People whose children or husbands or relatives have been killed by illegal immigrants.
I thought that was really very very powerful.
It puts a human face on this terrible cost that we're paying and the fact that every one of them then turned around and endorsed Trump without any kind of advance solicitation I think it was absolutely heartfelt.
They realize that their loss is something that our government could have and should have prevented, and not doing so is absolutely criminal.
And they see Donald Trump as a guy who is going to enforce the law, and several of them said, if he is not elected, there goes the country.
They've got it right.
What's disgusting about how the reaction to the angel moms, Jared, is I saw a lot of people on Twitter, some very prominent journalists say, wow, this is disgusting.
How dare you use this for political gain, these deaths?
Or white, white, whiter.
What's going on here? Or wow, this is basically a hate rally, I think one person tweeted out.
You know, what's insane to think of is that, and this is something you and I have talked about, not less than a month and a half ago, Hillary Clinton surrounded herself with the mothers of the movement.
Michael Brown's mother, Trayvon Martin's mother, Hattie Pendleton's mother who was shot by a fellow black person in Chicago as if that's somehow white people's fault.
On the floor, on the stage of the DNC, you know, how disgusting can you get?
And yet here you have Americans whose lives were cut tragically short by our own government's refusal to enforce the law and they're being attacked by leftist journalists.
It shows you how crazy the media situation is and why, frankly, we're seeing why I really don't trust many of the polls out there that are put on by these media sites because they have such a vested interest and they've admitted they have a vested interest in defeating Donald Trump.
Yes, yes. This is one of the astonishing things of our times, is that even the pillars of historic journalism in the United States, such as New York Times, The Washington Post, have openly said, nope, this is no longer a game of objectivity.
We have a duty. We have a duty to save America from Donald Trump.
And as you say, they have the so-called mothers of the movement.
That's wonderful. That's touching.
But these angel mothers, oh, that's exploitation.
And on the one hand, you're promoting people who are the parents of thugs for the most part.
People who, under any normal circumstances, were going to come to a sticky end, as opposed to the angel mothers.
These are people whose children were taken away from them for absolutely no reason except for the criminal negligence of our rulers.
The difference could not be starker.
But for our biased media, these black mothers, those are all stars.
Talking about them is wonderful. But these white people, and there are a couple of Hispanics as well.
And I thought it was interesting that the Hispanic mother was probably one of the most enthusiastic supporters of Donald Trump among the angel mothers.
But that apparently is exploiting their personal tragedies.
Oh boy, oh boy. Jared, I have it on good authority that Michael Brown was working toward curing virtually every disease that is currently incurable.
So I don't know if that's the right way to describe Michael Brown and his sad demise.
I guess that's just my prejudiced view of Michael Brown.
I apologize. I will sit down right now and write a $500 check to the SPLC in expiation for my sins.
But back to Donald Trump's program here.
Point six is he's going to suspend visas from countries with inadequate screening.
Well, that's good. I wonder how many such countries we will found are inadequate about their screenings.
I suspect there will be quite a few under a Trump administration.
I would expect most of the European Union, based on what we've seen with Merkel and her decision to virtually have no screening in place and allow Cologne to transpire, and that report that just came out where Muslims are infiltrating the German military.
So yeah, you're exactly right. I think we'll be shocked at how few nations we will grant visas to.
Maybe Iceland? Is that it?
Yes. And then point seven, and make sure that countries take back the immigrants that we deport.
Again, pure common sense.
Somebody is a miscreant, a criminal, an undesirable, and then the people who run the country from which he's come say, oh, no, no, we're not taking him back.
Who ever heard of such nonsense?
So another excellent, an excellent step.
And obviously one of the ways to make sure that those people take their citizens back is to stop issuing any visas or anything to come under any circumstances.
I think that'll learn them mighty quick, don't you think?
Without a doubt. Again, it goes back to that whole He goes back to that whole poem that was placed on the Statue of Liberty's pedestal, a lower pedestal.
We don't know.
I'm sorry, don't give us.
We don't need your huddled masses, especially if you came here huddled illegally in the back of a van smuggled by coyotes and stuff.
You know, it's hard to imagine the sentiments behind anyone who would put up a poem welcoming the wretched refuse of your teeming shores.
That is what the Statue of Liberty is supposed to be welcoming?
Wretched refuse? Gosh, what kind of suicidal, psychopathic country is going to want something like that?
But yes, we're going to put it in our interests.
Now, then the point eight is the complete, the biometric entry-exit visa tracking system.
Can you tell us a little bit about how that would work?
Well, you know, that's one that I haven't really had a chance to look into that much, but it basically is that Mr.
Trump is going to put a system in place at all ports in the United States.
And of course, the port includes land, air, sea port.
You know, Dulles International Airport is a port.
I think I read somewhere that Trump said, well, reading a speech, that nearly half a million individuals overstayed their temporary visas.
And if you basically have a way to track these temporary visas, then we can make sure that, hey, sorry, if it's expired, we are going to not let you in this country if you come back.
Well, also, even now, I mean, the biometric aspect of it is already you get your index finger printed.
And there are easy ways to take a picture of the pupils in your eye, which is as good as fingerprints, maybe even better.
And I believe the idea here is that we have this very clear biometric record of somebody who's come in.
Say he's got a 90-day visa.
Well, okay, after the 90 days are expired, if we do not have a record that that guy cleared out, then, all points alert, we are looking for him.
And when we find him, out he goes.
Again, this is just a common sense way of making sure that people behave.
I know you're a limited government guy, but I've always found it fascinating that people are frightened of the so-called police state mechanisms that will be able to track them.
You know, if you have nothing to hide, what are you worried about?
Honestly, I mean, yeah, I know there's going to be intrusion.
There can be ways that a big brother can take advantage of you, but at the same time, a benevolent big brother can protect you.
And the mechanisms that you're talking about being put in place, biometric eye scans, iris scans, index of your fingers, where you say all points, bolts, and will be put out.
It's not the stuff of science fiction.
This isn't a minority report we're talking about.
And if we don't use it, the only minority report will be the dwindling white minority in America.
That's right. So we have to use these technologies to maintain our integrity as a nation.
Yes, we do. And I think we can still make distinctions between the way we track citizens and the way we track aliens.
I think there are perfectly justifiable differences that we can make here.
Well, because the Constitution is only for Americans, and it's erroneous to believe that the Constitution protects non-citizens.
Exactly, exactly.
I got into a conversation with a radio host just the other day who was trying to insist that it just talks about persons.
Well, no, the Supreme Court is very clear about that.
The persons it's talking about are Americans.
There are no protections in the Constitution for Buddhists at large or Tierra del Fuegians.
No, no, no, no. It's for us.
And if we decide that we want no Muslims, there's absolutely nothing in the Constitution that prohibits that.
But then, okay, point nine is turn off the jobs and benefits magnet.
Yet again, isn't that an obvious, obvious step to take?
This is the most important step because this basically makes it impossible for, well, when we get to point, I guess, yeah, it's the same point.
This basically makes it impossible for an illegal alien to work in America.
That's right. That's right.
And that's simple. There's nothing else to say.
Sorry, you can't work here.
Yes, I agree.
You can't put your foot in the public trough.
You can't get a job.
And so they will all, except for a very small number who may have some sort of independent means, they will go home.
And this, to me, is part of the real brilliance of Donald Trump's speech.
And this is brought out in a piece that just went up on our webpage by Henry Wolfe.
In which he talks about how intelligently and how persuasively Donald Trump put this policy together.
Because the idea of sending out folks and knocking on doors and finding people who have not committed crimes Whose families may be part U.S. citizens, who have been in the United States for many years, and then putting them on trucks and buses, well, presumably it would be buses and not trucks, but putting them on vehicles and sending them south of the border.
This is something that tugs at the heartstrings.
He's not going to do that.
He's not going to do that. He's not going to have these people rounding up people who have not committed crimes.
But by enforcing the laws that prevent immigrants from becoming a public charge, and by ensuring that only people here legally can get jobs, he won't make it impossible for them to stay, and they won't send themselves home.
So I think Henry Wolfe has really pointed out, really analyzed this speech in a brilliant and very convincing way.
Well, if I could real quick, just looking at some of the statistics, I know you love these hard numbers.
It is amazing that, gosh, according to the data, 62% of illegal immigrants were on some form of means-tested welfare in 2012 compared to 30% of Americans.
It's just a shocking stat that, again, this is the kind of thing that I'm sure we'll see Mr.
Trump bring out because Stephen Miller wouldn't allow a good fact to go to waste.
Well, you know, and this is something else that Henry Wolf has pointed out.
When he says, okay, folks who have not committed any crimes, folks who are not sucking at the public teat, we're not going to make a high priority of tracking them down and sending them home.
This means that the media who hate him have their legs cut out from under them because they would have us believe that that accounts for the huge majority of illegal immigrants.
But if they start seeing that he's going to send home people who've committed crimes, people who are using means-tested programs, they will discover that that means probably 80, 85, who knows, maybe 90% of the illegals.
But this is something that they don't dare call attention to because they have this myth that all of these illegals are such wonderful citizens, making America strong and paying taxes, and being good little ideological descendants of Thomas Jefferson and James Madison.
So, yes, I think Donald Trump, although theoretically he has backed off on the idea that every single illegal immigrant is going to be deported, he has backed off.
The ones who would remain under a Donald Trump presidency would be very small, and probably even they would eventually go home because there's no way for them to become citizens.
He's made that clear as well.
He has made that clear, and more importantly, the self-deportation aspect to the whole e-verify and cutting off the public access to taxpayer benefits that I just don't see how illegal aliens can get them or enroll their kids in school, which is one of the great things he didn't touch on.
That would also mean that Areas that are stressed out because of illegal aliens having access to public education.
That's not going to happen anymore.
So you'll have smaller classroom sizes, which will be a fantastic thing.
Of course, that's going into the weeds of the positive benefits of Mr.
Trump's just outstanding plan.
And going back to the whole Trump deportation task force.
He's renamed it, of course. He did say that a couple times in the speech.
It's amazing the number of new jobs that will be created by this fantastic speech and this plan if it's implemented in terms of what was it?
I don't remember the exact amount.
Was it 5,000 new Border Patrol agents?
Yes, yes, 5,000 new agents.
And then, of course, one of the more underappreciated portions of the speech, like we had talked about, in terms of the visa overstays and the biometric entry-exit.
Basically, that means that TSA, which is part of Homeland Security, hey, that's going to be their job.
You can basically clean house and get good people.
There are a lot of good people out there who would love a great government job in the Trump administration working for TSA if the Transportation Authority was actually Having a part in Homeland Security as opposed to just patting down 85-year-old white grandmothers and basically making life miserable for people who fly a lot.
Yes, yes, absolutely true.
And then finally, and I think this is essential too, he talked about the importance of reforming legal immigration.
And he put it squarely in terms of finding people who will contribute to America, who will assimilate and contribute to America.
Again, something that should be obvious, but in our times as a revolutionary.
Again, I don't think I could have written a better speech for him.
I think this is really an absolute tour de force.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
This point is the most important one.
If you think about where, if everything else happens, this point is so important because now we get to control the individuals who come in.
And again, it goes back to getting this poem that was put on the Statue of Liberty off because this ensures that the Statue of Liberty is actually about what it was originally gifted to, to make sure that the American people are allowed to flourish in liberty as opposed to having Our freedoms restricted so that they conform with the new America that's being forced upon us as we're dispossessed.
And this couldn't be a greater exclamation point for what that wonderful statue actually represents.
Yes. And I mean that.
Many, many, many people seem to be ignorant of its original purpose.
It was a gift of the French people to the American people.
It was supposed to go up in 1876 as the centennial of the Declaration of Independence.
It was delayed a little bit.
It took another 10 years about to get the statue up.
But its name is Liberty Enlightening the World.
It's not Lady Liberty inviting the world.
And it was simply out of pure happenstance that it happens to be overlooking the island where immigrants happen to be processed.
But it was a complete hijacking of the purpose of that statue to turn it into some sort of symbol of the welcoming of immigrants.
Furthermore, as we all know, the immigrants that it was welcoming at that time were exclusively, I'd say, if not exclusively, almost exclusively, Europeans, who generally assimilated just fine.
So, no, it is a complete silly misreading of American history to say that because of the Statue of Liberty, we need to let in Guatemalans and Haitians and Nicaraguans.
But anyway, again, I go back to how you started this broadcast.
It's a great day.
And it's a great day thanks to the way Donald Trump has clarified his message about immigration.
Is there anything more that you'd care to add?
Two things I think that are important, Jared.
I think the response that Hillary gives to this speech, because You know, a guy who I've come to respect a lot, his writing has influenced me dramatically, is Mike Cernovich.
He's one of the rising stars of the new media.
Some people would probably criticize him, I think unfairly, because he has put himself out there.
And he said, I think brilliantly, Quote, there is no honest or ethical way to hate on this speech.
People can disagree, but it's a real speech with actual policy proposals.
Anyone saying otherwise is a fraud.
End quote. Now, we've seen a lot of hysteria from this speech.
You know, of course, you know, oh, this is Nazi-esque.
You know, oh my gosh, this is something Hitler would have wrote.
You know, blah, blah, blah.
You know, I'm shaking. I'm literally shaking.
Yeah. It's like, well, isn't this just what every actual nation has as their policy?
You know, what nation wouldn't have all of the plans if they wanted to stay a nation and put the interests of their citizens, their people first, who are the only individuals capable of collectively We're good to go.
You know, Cernovich is right. How can Hillary, and this is my question to you, how can the Democrats look at this speech and basically say, oh, no, no, we're on the side of those who have broken the law.
We're on the side of, you know, it's basically going to force Hillary to come to the right on immigration in a lot of aspects.
Or if she doesn't, then basically Trump is right.
They are going to run on trying to finish off the coup of the historic American nation, as Peter Brumlow says.
Yes, it is hard, it is hard to argue against someone who says that we must deport criminals and we must deport non-citizens who are public charges.
I think if you put those ideas to some kind of one man, one vote of the American electorate, they would be supported overwhelmingly.
And if Hillary Clinton finds herself in a position of trying to defend leaving people here in the country who are on welfare, who sneak their way across the border, she is going to lose.
I would love to see some public debate in which she attempts to do that.
And this idea of rewarding lawbreakers with citizenship Jumping them to the head of the line, all that does is set up incentives for people to do it forever and ever and ever in the hopes that it's going to happen again.
I think when it comes to these policies, Donald Trump is absolutely going to smash her in the debates, and I look forward to that.
Well, and that's point two that I wanted to ask you.
My great hope is that Mr.
Trump spends as much time with Stephen Miller when they're on the airplane and Bannon from Breitbart researching everything that he just spoke about.
Not just being able to get up there and regurgitate and give a really powerful speech, but to understand the issues.
because one of the things that I remember most about the primaries was when he seemed to
waffle on H1B visas when he said I've never I never said that and it
was in a policy paper his his view on on Facebook and He is if he hadn't even
Researched or prepared for the debate or even knew what his own policy was and that's what's gonna be so important in
that first debate is knowing the ins and outs and and
Every aspect of the one through ten plant because if he can do that
I think you're gonna persuade a lot of people and the states that matter in
Michigan and in Iowa and in Virginia and in North Carolina North Carolina is basically a colony for the invasion.
It's so sad. And Virginia and Pennsylvania and Georgia and all of these states that are so important.
And even for a lot of ways, California.
I mean, we forget that... Even though the white middle class has basically been driven out of California, the people there 20 years ago did vote to save themselves with Prop, was it 187?
186, I think. Yeah, I think it was Prop 187.
And it wasn't until the Democrat governor took over after Pete Wilson left, who then, of course, was forced out in recall.
You know, they stopped fighting it.
And it's...
My great hope is that Trump just studies.
Well, you are right, I'm afraid, to be concerned about that.
He is entirely capable of delivering a brilliant speech and then not really studying the details of his proposals in a way so that he can rattle off the statistics, rattle off the logic, Right on the spur of the moment as he's gonna have to do during those debates.
But after this speech, although he was rumored to be wavering, he was rumored to be retreating on this, clearly he is not.
And I think to the extent that he realizes this is such a central aspect of his appeal, I hope he will devote the necessary time to master the details so that he can absolutely smash Hillary.
I see. And I think you're right.
I mean, that's the fear I have that he's not going to.
But the fact is that he's recovered so incredibly.
I mean, he's literally up against the media.
He's up against every...
I mean, what was it a couple of weeks ago when the former head of the CIA came out and said, I'm not usually political, but Trump would be a foreign policy disaster.
I mean, you're looking at every architect of the disastrous wars in Iraq and the Middle East that Bush's advisors pushed.
They're now coming out and saying they're going to endorse Hillary Clinton.
You know, he's up against this titanic coalition.
And yet at the same time, the people who are on his side are the American people.
And all it took to get them to wake up was for someone to stand up and say, we have to have a country for our children, grandchildren.
And it's amazing how many people, Jared, you know, I think we always...
We've underestimated the appeal of a lot of the ideas that we have.
And Trump hasn't really espoused many of them, but at the same time, you're kind of getting this picture.
I mean, I was joking with someone last night that if the crowd there at that speech were given AR-15s, they probably could have taken Mexico City in a week.
That enthusiasm was just over.
I was getting chills watching the speech and listening to that crowd.
It was exciting.
Well, it's only going to get more exciting as we get closer because the left is going to start bringing out a lot of, you know, the attacks are going to be crazy.
And then, you know, just looking at the story that CNN has, you know, mainstream media defeat Trump by attacking his supporters.
You are going to start seeing people attack more and more.
I mean, look what... We see that story of the kid in Missouri who was suspended for holding up a Trump sign in a rally.
You know, I wouldn't be surprised, Jared, if we don't see a website pop up that tries to get Trump supporters fired from their jobs by shaming them, just as they have with so-called racists.
You know, for people who leave comments on Facebook, who then they try to expose to get them fired from their vocation.
I think we're going to see that.
It might not be too long until Trump supporters, Jared, are labeled a hate group themselves by the SPLC. Well, they've got two months to label us that, and what they will find, of course, is that they have labeled the majority of the white population a hate group.
They're welcome to try.
I think that will completely take the sting out of their operations.
If more than half of the white population are haters, well, I don't think they're so stupid as to do that, but you could be right.
They might try. I wouldn't put it past.
Let's just put it that way.
I think that this really is one of those moments where you're looking at a complete realigning of the world order.
And in closing, I'd like to say this.
I sometimes wonder if Donald Trump realizes what he truly is embarking upon this quest.
If he understands the gravity of the situation and his place in history, if things change.
And it's something I've reflected on.
Because, you know, he looks like a different person.
He's beginning to act like a different person, carrying himself with a different demeanor.
And it's...
He's one of these pivotal historical figures.
And I hate to put it in that context because you don't want to make things seem so dire, but they are.
Let's just be honest for our country and for where things are headed for Europeans worldwide.
This is one of those moments where, wow, does he ever sit back when he's taking a picture of himself eating KFC or McDonald's and think, what will people think in 500 years if this goes well?
Well, I have no doubt that Donald Trump realizes what he's doing is important.
But I bet he doesn't realize.
Even Donald Trump doesn't realize just how historically important it is.
But you and I, we do.
Well, Paul Kersey, thank you so much for being on the program.
As always, we've benefited enormously from your insights and observations.
And I look forward to having you on Radio Renaissance again sometime very soon.
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