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Sept. 20, 2016 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor
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All Americans Are Racist, but Trump Supporters are the Most Racist
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Welcome to another edition of Radio Renaissance.
Again, we have for our weekly roundup, the incomparable Paul Kersey, the manager of Stuff Black People Don't Like.
Hey, it's sbpdl.com and Jared, it's always a pleasure to be a part of this fantastic program and have the opportunity to speak to your amazing audience of both readers and listeners.
It's great to have you back.
There have been a number of significant developments and one that I thought particularly interested our listeners who are of a scientific bent is the discovery of genes that code for what is known as both antisocial personality disorder and psychopathy, psychopaths. I'll let you start talking about the study because I think this is going to be the overarching theme of our entire talk today as we tie it all into We're good to go.
Yes. Now, as usual in studies of this kind, although they've found the genes, they have not discussed the racial distribution of the genes.
That presumably will come later, if it ever comes, probably from the Beijing Genomics Institute.
They're not embarrassed about this sort of thing the way white folks are.
But it turns out psychopathy, or this antisocial personality disorder, is present in about 3% of the general population.
One in three of human beings are psychopaths.
Now, the distribution is very different, male and female.
About 1% of women are psychopaths and 6% of men.
So, 6 out of 100 of the men you know are probably psychopaths, although that may not be true because you probably don't know very many people who are currently in jail.
A lot of those folks end up in jail.
Up to 80% of the male prison inmate population shows signs and symptoms of antisocial personality disorder, and 65% of imprisoned women are sociopaths.
And the way I think of sociopathy is people who have no conscience, basically.
They think of themselves as the center of the universe, and they don't think of others as having sentient feelings or desires or interests.
Other human beings are strictly tools.
No, I think that this is such fascinating and groundbreaking analysis that we're talking about here and this discovery because it helps put into perspective why President Obama has declared war on punishment in schools and public schools because we know he's doing this because school systems across the country, whether it's Madison, Wisconsin, Whether it's Chicago, Illinois, whether it's Fairfax, Virginia, all of these school systems have one problem, and that is black students disrupting the school systems and disrupting the education process,
I should say. And when you look at this discovery, and as you mentioned, it's not broken out by racial lines, one in 100 females, six of 100 males, you have to wonder, well, what if we broke that out by race?
You know, Richard Lynn has done some pioneering research on this, and he is expected to release a new book on this very question of race and sociopathy.
It'll be fascinating.
I think his preliminary findings are that there is a significant multiple of the white figure if you're talking about blacks.
And this fits in absolutely perfectly.
Now, I'll be curious to see what are the stats on Asians, for example.
I mean, I think he's going to look into that too.
But blacks are the obvious stars in this particular spectrum.
Well, it also goes back to the study that, gosh, what's the gentleman's name, who was let go from the New York Times, that fantastic book that he published about two years ago.
Nicholas Wade. Nicholas Wade's book, where you'll remember the study far more than I will the exact details.
But what was it? The violence?
The warrior gene. The warrior gene.
Yeah. And how much more prevalent was that gene in blacks?
I can't remember the exact percentage.
Yes, when it comes to the, I think it's the M-A-O-A gene, the warrior gene.
That's right. Blacks are 50 times more likely than whites to have it.
You know, it's interesting when we talk about Nicholas Wade because he had been a contributor to the New York Times for a number of years and he published the fantastic book.
That name escapes me right now.
A Troublesome Inheritance.
That's correct. And what's fascinating about that is that, of course, he then, I believe subsequently from the release of the book, he was no longer allowed to write for the NY Times.
He's back to writing for them now.
Oh, wow! Yes, I've seen his pieces in the Times in the science section again.
So I hope that he has not eaten humble pie.
I don't see any evidence that he has crawled on his belly to get back, but he's writing for the Times again, and I'm delighted to see that.
Yeah, because for a while there, he was an unwelcome contributor.
But on the subject note, this question of what does this mean for society?
What if the political class, the academic class, accepted that these are genetic facts and that the genes are not distributed equally among the different races?
What would that mean? Well, the people who came out with a study that pinpointed some of these genes They are very worried.
Here I'll quote from them. In the past, claims about specific genes and violence have been, in these researchers' words, misused by prosecutors as evidence that defendants are violent.
And as more studies like this one link specific genes to the potential for violence, that danger only grows.
Knowledge is dangerous, Mr.
Kersey. Knowledge is dangerous.
Well, I'm of the mind, just like the fictitious college in Animal House, their motto was, knowledge is good, for Farber College.
And I think that these types of studies, we should be...
Go ahead.
Oh, I agree. They're absolutely necessary.
I mean, basically, you are...
We've mortgaged the future.
We've dismantled civilization.
John Derbyshire said this in one of my favorite pieces over at VDARE.
He published this about the time that National Review sacked him for the talk.
And he basically said, we've dismantled our civilization based on these lies that we're
told every day we must believe in or else we are going to be dismissed from polite society.
And yet, every day more information begins to leak out that our ancestors who tried to put in safeguards to protect the civilizations that existed for them, but more importantly for their posterity, they're being vindicated.
And that is a beautiful thing because that's...
Not only are we fighting, Jared, to make a better world for our children and their posterity, but we're fighting to honor the memory of our ancestors who did know the truth.
Yes. We are in such a strange time in world history to think that our grandfathers and our great grandfathers had a better understanding of certain scientific facts than the people who are running the country today.
You would think that science in general has progressed.
This is one area in which science has gone, actual science has progressed, but the general understanding and application of that science has gone steadily backwards.
It's really, I think it's probably without precedent in the history of the world, that something that was understood and that is continually being upheld by contemporary findings is being steadily and more vigorously denied.
Well, hard sciences don't matter.
The only scientists that I think are, that the zeitgeist considers true scientists are the social scientists from Baltimore, like Tynisi Coates or David Simon, the creator of The Wire, the author of Homicide and The Corner, where, again, the only science that matters is if you can blame white racism for the problems befalling blacks.
Well, hey, there you go. No need for the scientific method.
You're right. That's right.
And yet, an understanding of reality still filters down into the American population, as we discovered.
In these very interesting polls that were taken of supporters of Hillary Clinton and supporters of Donald Trump.
And of course, she made headlines, lovely headlines, when she talked about this basket of deplorables, which of course include you and me, but all of these horrible people who support Donald Trump.
And she went ahead and said, you know, must be about half, about half of Donald Trump's people are these irredeemables.
Well, somebody went out and did a survey to compare the supporters of Donald Trump with the supporters of Hillary Clinton in what they think in terms of race.
Now, we're supposed to be not just racist, but misogynist, homophobes, Islamophobes, I can't remember.
And she said, and etc., etc.
So you name it, we're it.
She includes us in all of these baskets of different kinds of deplorability.
But here we go.
I thought this was pretty interesting.
Let's start really with the question of violence.
And it turns out that about 31% of Clinton supporters think that blacks are more violent than whites.
Now, in the case of Trump supporters, it goes up to about 48%.
Now, what does this mean?
What does this mean? In terms of violence, and you see they go into other things.
Are they bad-mannered?
Are they lazy?
Do they have a workout? This sort of thing.
But in terms of violence, nothing could be clearer.
Nothing could be clearer. I think even the most dimwit blinkered liberal knows that blacks are more violent than whites.
They must! I mean, how can they put their pants on in the morning not knowing something as obvious as that?
Well, it's interesting to me that more than 30% of Clint supporters are prepared to say this to a pollster, and nearly 50% of Trump supporters are.
The way that people have read this is, Oh my god!
We're all racists!
And Trump supporters are particularly racist.
Deporably racist.
No, this is such a fascinating information because you think about, you know, you have children and I'm a millennial and...
The inculcation that is spent by the entertainment, the academia, by the federal government to inculcate us that this is not the facts.
I am one of the people who is boycotting the NFL, but I was at a restaurant the other day and I saw a commercial and I was blown away by how every commercial now between these football games on ABC or I'm sorry, it was on Fox or CBS. That's where the games are broadcast.
Every commercial had non-whites as the primary participant in the commercial.
And none of them had whites anymore.
And they're put in these impossible scenarios that, you know, whether it's at a family event where there's a wonderful family type situation.
And we've been basically force-fed.
I mean, I've always tried to wonder, and I'm sure you have as well, what it was like to live in the Soviet Union.
Especially the dying days of a civilization where the state is still trying to keep together these lies.
And I kind of feel like that's America.
And Trump has...
We've talked about this.
Many people on our side have talked about this.
He is such a liberating force for so many people.
And these rallies that you're seeing after the latest Muslim Islamic terror attack...
Well, there were three of them.
The attack by the Somali and...
And St. Paul. These crowds, it's almost like they're just waiting.
We're not alone.
We aren't alone.
And you can feel that. And what's funny, conversely, Hillary can't get anyone at her rallies.
You saw what just happened in Temple.
Well, tell me what happened at Temple.
38,000 student body, 200 people showed up.
Really? She had to be helped up the stairs to give this address to a small audience.
And at the same time, the lies...
There's a metaphor there because...
People for so long.
You believe this. I believe this about you.
I mean, here I am. I'm looking at one of the fantastic books you've put out.
One of these days, I hope, it becomes a bestseller, much to the chagrin of the New York Times.
And I encourage you all to go get it listening.
The Essential Writings on Race, Sam Francis.
Now, he wrote a number of the essays in here that, at the time, he didn't put his name on it.
They were under a non-diplume, under a pseudonym.
But this is such an amazing story.
I think if you were to give this to a Trump supporter, they wouldn't, at this point, they would probably take it home and potentially read it.
Whereas before Trump, they would probably have been frightened to even look at this, to even consider entertaining some of these ideas.
That's an interesting idea.
I wonder how much that is true.
I was struck by your reference earlier to the dying days of the Soviet Union.
As it happened, in those dying days, I had a girlfriend who was a student of Russian and Russian civilization.
And she went to the Soviet Union several times.
And the stories that she would come back with were very interesting.
She would say that Russians, when they were all by themselves, they would crack jokes about how, well, in the Soviet Union, we pretend to work and they pretend to pay us out.
That was a common idea.
And also, one of the ideas in the Soviet Union was that you always had a quota of work, but you always had to over-fulfill your quota.
Now, in the real glory days of the Stockanovites, you know, the Stockanov coal miner who was this famous guy, you were supposed to, oh, I will meet 200% of my quota, 175% of my quota.
Well, in the dying days, they had to exceed the quota, but people would say, okay, 102%.
Just enough. So you're over the quota, but we're not going to sweat this stuff.
Everybody knew that it was baloney.
Everybody knew it was baloney.
And I think that increasingly, now we cannot say that in the United States everybody knows it's baloney.
But a whole lot of people know that the prevailing ideology is baloney, and it comes out in these surveys of the Trump and Clinton supporters.
The fact is, as I say, everyone in America knows blacks are more bonnet than whites.
Everyone knows this. But we are so repressed that you have to be a Trump supporter in order to be in the group even of which one half is prepared to say so.
So, yes, but back to your point about the extent to which the Trump phenomenon has made it more easy for people to think in those terms.
How real do you think that is?
I'm wondering, because he's seldom explicit about this stuff, but he has a mood about him, he has a tone about him that says, this is baloney!
Trump is like the Mississippi when every, what, 100 years there's a mighty flood.
And then when there's a mighty flood, there are tributaries.
Think of what is happening with Representative Steve King.
A couple weeks ago, he got in a lot of trouble because he said something among the effect of, what was it, white people are basically the reason why civilization exists.
Something like that. Something like that.
Today he just tweeted out, and Donald Trump Jr.
tweeted it out, it was an image of the demographic displacement of Europeans by a refugee resettlement.
And he used the term demographic displacement.
And Donald Trump Jr.
Retweeted that out. And it's little things like that, that a representative, Congress critters, as Sam Francis was one to call him.
I mean, this is not the type of, this is not typical conversation.
And when the son of the presidential candidate is tweeting that type of rhetoric out, that type of wording on Twitter, I mean, that tells you a lot in 140 characters or less what they're thinking.
Things are certainly happening.
They really are. And I go back and forth.
I like to tell reporters, and I've been speaking to a lot of them lately, that we are here, we will stay, and we will prevail, Trump or no Trump.
It's very true. That's absolutely true.
But at the same time, it is wrong to downplay the kind of fillip, the kind of boost that the Trump phenomenon has given us.
It's a combination of both those things.
But I want to get back to one more of these survey results.
It had to do with intelligence.
And when you survey the supporters of Clinton and Trump, the percentage who say that blacks are less intelligent than whites.
Now, that's the only question.
It's not, why are they less intelligent?
It's, are they less intelligent?
Well, even about 22% of Clinton supporters are prepared to telepulture that.
Yes, one in five.
Yeah. Now, I was disappointed in Trump supporters only about 32%, but that's one in three.
One in three of Trump supporters are going to tell a pollster, yeah, blacks on average, it's just not as smart as whites.
So, now, it would have been...
See, my guess is that the...
Imagine a question in which the poster had said, well, it is well established that blacks score lower on intelligence tests than whites, and that in their daily lives they exhibit lower intelligence.
Now, do you think that there are, at least in part, a genetic contribution to this difference?
I'd love to know what the answer would have been.
But, you know, it wouldn't have surprised me if the question had been put that way.
We'd get about the same level of response.
I think you would have got the exact same level of response, basically because I think a lot of people...
A, that's too long of a question.
It's a great question, but no.
I feel that maybe the people that were...
You interviewed and posed these questions from a Republican standpoint.
It might have been from the Ben Carson, you know, the whole white guilt phenomenon.
I mean, in my opinion, the fact that one in five and one in three Clinton-Trump supporters, respectively, are willing to tell pollsters that it shows you not only is there room to grow, but there's a foundation set of people who are ready to embrace these ideas.
I mean, it's not... The idea is that American Renaissance and that New Century Foundation that you guys discuss on a daily basis, this isn't groundbreaking stuff.
This was the foundation for the United States of how it was set up.
As you noted in a number of articles, you wrote one for...
Race to the American Prospect, the essay you wrote there, you discuss in that essay, I think quite succinctly, that America was founded as almost an explicit white nation.
Yes, yes. And people have asked me, well, why didn't they put that in the Constitution?
I think they felt they had no need to.
They took it absolutely for granted.
It would have been wonderful if they had.
And of course, there's the line in the preamble that we wish to preserve the blessings of liberty for ourselves and for our posterity.
Well, more importantly, in 1790, they came out and did pretty much codify it.
Yes, they did. That only free white persons of good character could apply for naturalization.
And you know, it's significant to me that was the very first Congress after the Constitution had been ratified.
That's right. These are guys getting together in a brand new country.
And they're saying, well, okay, what kind of country are we going to have?
And they decided it's going to be a country for white people.
Not only white people, but of good character.
And that goes back to the study because you have to wonder, you know, Again, I've always thought this, and you're not one who spends a lot of time wasting their precious hours watching television, but think about...
I've always thought, what was Thomas Jefferson?
What were these intellects doing on just an average night?
They didn't have Will and Grace.
They didn't have Orange is the New Black to watch.
Basically, they would read correspondence.
They would read books.
They would... They would plan the next day's events out because someone had plantations to manage.
Jefferson's there in Monticello who's just thinking, you have to just wonder What was it that they knew?
You go back and read notes on Virginia, and I mean, it's amazing the things that he's writing about the character of blacks.
That's right. That's right. Well, he had many on his plantation.
He had ample opportunity to study the character of blacks.
And under the circumstances, I think he expressed himself in extremely modest and careful terms.
He would talk about the intelligence of blacks, but not in categorical terms.
He said it would lead one to conclude, or that kind of thing.
Nothing particularly dismissive, and I think that he was reflecting something that was really common sense and common knowledge at the time.
Just a side note, what did they do without TV, without the internet, without radio, without all these things that we take for granted?
When I visited Monticello some years ago, one of the docents was taking us through the dining room.
And we have records of who was present at dinner in practically every day of the year when George Washington was there.
And he and Mrs.
Washington dined alone maybe once or twice a year.
They always had company.
And so I think that's probably not all that unusual.
The upper classes of America, they were always visiting each other.
They were always talking.
So he would have these eminent intellectuals or businessmen, whoever it was, but they always had dinner conversations.
That's something that's pretty much gone.
No TV dinners, no TV dinners, watching, you know, watching Starksky and Hutch.
None of that for George Washington.
No, they did lead a very different kind of intellectual life.
It's interesting. One of my favorite little anecdotes from a movie is the fantastic master and commander with Russell Crowe.
And there's a scene where all the officers of various ages and the younger boys on the boat, they're all in the room together eating dinner.
And it's fantastic because the eldest seaman is imparting his knowledge on the younger crewmen.
And then, of course, Russell Crowe's the captain of the boat and he's telling a story about When he was sailing as a younger boy.
And what you're saying is correct because now the only people who you entertain at dinner is...
If you're watching a rerun of Friends on Netflix, then you become the seventh friend.
Or if you're watching Seinfeld, then you become the fifth person of that little quartet.
There have been many markers of the decline of this kind of sociability and community building.
I remember reading an essay about television coming to an Italian village.
Before television came, in the evenings people were out, all talking.
That there was life on the streets, on the porches, on the sidewalks.
People were all talking to each other. Overnight, when television came, people were all inside, watching the Gogglebox.
People used to say the same thing about air conditioning in the South.
Before air conditioning came, everybody in the evening was out on his porch.
It was sweltering hot, but it was even more sweltering inside.
And when you're out on the porch, your neighbors are out on the porch.
All of these electronic devices that so fascinate us cut us off from human beings.
And live atomized lives, you're right.
That's right. People talk about the decline of community.
I think there are all sorts of reasons for that.
But the fact that we have all of these artificial forms of entertainment, that's a big contributor.
But now, just to get back, I don't want to bore you too much with these research findings about Trump and Clinton supporters, but I think it's really interesting.
Because, as you know, Hillary Clinton later apologized for saying that half of Of Donald Trump supporters are these deplorable, irredeemable people.
Well, there are plenty of people who are saying that, no, she kind of lowballed it here.
Here's Charles Blow in the New York Times, this black columnist.
Oh boy, oh boy. I mean, if there was somebody that you could set up as the prototypical loudmouth black blowhard.
I wish we could put his picture up right now.
I wish this was a YouTube video so we could pop up the image that he has as his headshot, that smug, that, hey, you know, just look at me.
I'm in a position where I get to dictate policy.
That's right. Which reminds me, I remember years ago when Jesse Jackson was running for president.
I walked into a men's room once and had one of those buttons where you press the button and the air comes out.
And somebody had had a had print up round buttons.
And it said for a message from Jesse Jackson, press this button.
And they had it right on the button that blew out the hot air.
And I think for a message from Charles Blow, press this button.
Anyway, he says, Donald Trump is a deplorable candidate, to put it charitably, and anyone who helps him advance his racial, religious, and ethnic bigotry is part of that bigotry.
He's saying they're all deplorable.
Here, Washington Post's Dana Milbank.
If anything, when it comes to Trump's racist support, she might have lowballed the number.
And here on New York Daily News, James Kerchick.
It's not 50% of Trump supporters who are bigots.
It's closer to 100%.
Now, you were talking earlier about the demise of the sting of the word racism.
I think we're, Jared, you know, it's funny.
I could throw two more people on who've said stuff of that nature real quick.
Leonard Pitts, who is regrettably a Pulitzer Prize winning columnist for the Miami Herald.
He said something similar.
Just... His hatred of Trump supporters is just, it's so vivid in his writing.
And then Samantha Bee, who is a late night talk show host on TBS, she lamented the fact that the one talk show host, his name escapes me right now, he had Trump on as a guest.
And I'm sure you've seen the video, he messes up his hair.
And the left is irate that he's humanizing, that they allowed him to humanize Donald Trump and let him be funny as opposed to just attacking him and saying, how dare you be racist, Trump?
How dare you unleash this?
That is why they're afraid, because they're realizing they've gone overboard to try.
And you said it earlier, Trump has said nothing to the effect of, we can't let whites become a minority in America.
He's never said anything like that.
He's never said anything explicitly noting the decline of the white enrollment in public schools, where K-12 schools, whites are now a minority across the country.
He's never said anything like that.
But it's the fear they have When I say they, I'm not saying, I'm not meaning anything by that.
It's the fear that the chattering class, the class like Charles Below, Leonard Pitts, Dana Milblank, the late night comedians who act as a...
As a gatekeeper and ensuring that comedy never goes too far.
We can't notice too much.
And that goes back to this whole poll of do white people, do Trump supporters or Clinton supporters think blacks are more violent?
In a lot of ways, I think it's funny that that question is asked because it's so obvious in that in a lot of ways, there should be a laugh track with this poll.
It's like it's only... It's only 48.
It's only 31. It's like, what the heck?
69%, 42%.
What are these guys? What?
I mean, have they been replaced?
But no, the word racist.
I never thought this was going to be possible.
That word was going to lose its sting, its stigma.
And yeah, you know, a lot of people out there, they could be Hulk Hogan, they could be Paula Deen, they could be made a pariah.
But that day when the media is going to be able to do that to someone is coming closer and closer to an end.
I agree. I agree.
After all, if you have people in the New York Times, Washington Post, New York Daily News saying that it's not just 50%, it could be as much as 100%.
You're talking about 60 million people in the United States.
Sixty million people usually vote for the Republican Party, and I suspect there'll be more this time around.
You're saying that 60 million people, that's half the voting population, are racist, bigots, whatever it is.
Now, if that's the case, then you have to recalibrate.
What's wrong? Are we really living in a country in which half the voting population are moral inferiors?
No. You have to reset here.
You have to realize that, well, maybe something's going on that we don't understand.
They are too blinded, of course, by their dogmas to have any notion of that.
But there must be something of that kind happening in the minds of some of the at least more wide-awake liberals.
Yeah, that's a question that I think we're going to find the answer as we get closer and closer to the election.
And especially if there are more of these, what Barack Obama would say, anomalies, that is these Islamic terror attacks by refugees or by...
Somalians, of course, as you know, we have resettled 1.2% of the population of Somalia in America, roughly 115,000 of the 10.8 million Somalians.
They now reside in America.
And you have to ask yourself, how many more of these individuals are prepared to do what the guy did in St.
Paul? Which, guess what?
Whenever these type things happen, it proves Trump's concerns are right.
And more importantly, It invalidates the cry of racist for anyone who dares point out these sane domestic policy decisions that he's promoting.
Yes. As I have often pointed out, one of the requirements of orthodoxy in the United States today is that we must never notice patterns when it comes to human beings.
I mean, for example, if you talk, oh, maybe about murder rate, blacks are eight or ten times more likely to commit murder than whites.
Well, if an airline was eight or ten times more likely just to be delayed or lose your baggage or the airplanes drop out of the sky, that's it!
Finished! Those patterns are worth noticing.
But the fact that in New York City, blacks are 100 times more likely than whites to be guilty of the offense of shooting.
That's when you let fly a bullet and hit somebody.
100 times! That's a pretty remarkable pattern.
If anything, even half of that or a third of that were found in any other competitive domain, this computer falls apart three times as likely as a computer by another manufacturer.
Finished! These are important patterns.
Human beings, you never notice them.
And it's the same with Muslims. The fact that, I mean, I think somebody said, okay, it's true that not all Muslims are terrorists, but it sure seems like all the terrorists are Muslims.
Well, on that same note, Donald Trump Jr., once again, going back to what they tweet out, you saw the big controversy today is that he tweeted out the meme of the Skittles.
Would you eat out of a Skittles bowl if three of those Skittles were contaminated?
And he likened that to Syrian refugees.
And the left is going crazy because you're noticing patterns.
You're putting it into a simple analogy for most Americans who don't think in these grandiose terms of, my God, if we bring in 30,000 Somalians into Minneapolis, Logically, what could happen?
My gosh, they could actually bring the quality of life that's found in Somalia and transport it to Minneapolis, displacing what once was a high-trust society in the process.
What Donald Trump Jr.
is doing is proving...
Let me backtrack here.
What he's doing with these tweets is he's showing that inside these very high-level meetings with Stephen Miller, with I would say Steve Bannon's probably in these meetings, with Donald Trump, with Eric Trump, with even Ivanka Trump, they're having conversations that...
If the New York Times, if the press could get a hold of, they would try and broadcast them out far greater than the whole Kogan tape or the Paula Deen tape because they would be like, look how frightening.
These people are about to be in charge of the nukes.
And you see these tweets.
I hope you're right.
I'd love to be a fly on the wall.
I'd love to know what those people really talk about when the cameras are not rolling, when the reporters are not there.
I would love to know. All we can do is base our speculations on what they say.
But this whole question of patterns, that goes back to this poll taking.
Everybody sees the pattern, black violence.
There were other questions about whether or not blacks are lazy, whether blacks are rude.
I mean, those things are hard to quantify.
Very so. But, you know, we all see, we all observe.
And plenty of Hillary supporters will say, yeah, they're rude and they're lazy.
Not as many as Trump supporters.
But... This inability to articulate something that we see, something that we have seen over and over and over again, that says something profound about the power of these illusions that we're all supposed to believe in.
But, as you point out, if 50% or 100% of Trump supporters are in fact these racists, then that means the illusions are crumbling.
That's the great thing about it.
Well, we were talking last week in the last conversation we had about the basket of deplorables comment and when she told the LGBT audience who was cheering every word she said, by the way.
That's one of the more frightening aspects about how glued they were to the pneumonia.
Hillary, of course, we found out had pneumonia when she was giving this talk.
That's what we're told.
But if we're irredeemable, that means we're beyond salvation.
These columnists, these pundits, these policy wonks, if they're saying, no, no, no, no, it's all Trump supporters, what happens then if Hillary becomes president?
And today we found out something quite fascinating about what Hillary would do in terms of policy for police.
Because you know one of the main things that's being pushed by Black Lives Matter By George Soros connected non-profits is the whole idea that we need to federalize the police departments.
You know, we need to slap consent decrees on local police where the Department of Justice comes in and they'll dictate the policies for how the, you know, whether it's Kansas City or whether it's Ferguson, they'll be in charge of personnel and decisions of that matter.
And Hillary told Steve Harvey that, under my administration, we will do what's necessary to stop white racist police from shooting blacks.
Of course, this goes to what happened in Columbus where, I can't remember the guy's name, Tyreek Lee or something, he pointed a BB gun that had a laser sight on it at a cop after an armed robbery.
And Obviously, if they're going to do something to stop white racist cops, they're already working under the premise that all white cops are racist because they have the potential to shoot an unarmed black, to harm, in the words of Tainese Coates, a black body.
Thus, make it illegal for white males to be police.
Well, certainly, if they have voted for Donald Trump, they are ipso facto racists by this kind of reasoning.
There you go. Yes. Now, to me, though...
There is a silver lining to that kind of thinking because you could say, okay, white people simply cannot be the policeman for black people.
We accept that. Okay, black people, you can hire your own police.
You can have your own communities, your own law and order, but at least let white people be the policeman of white people.
Now, that's the aspect of it that they might refuse to say, okay, white people are obviously racist, so we can't even trust them to be police in white communities.
I could see that next.
So all police have to be black.
In any case, when it comes to the police, we'd like to wrap up by observing that this is something that you had called to my attention, and that the city of Chicago...
I know you keep a sharp eye on the behavior of Chicagoans, and they deserve that sharp eye.
But they have just reached, now that we are in September, the 3,000th shooting.
And again, shooting is defined as when you let fly and you actually hit somebody.
Just firing shots in the air...
I mean, I don't know what that's called.
That's shots fired, but it's not.
It's a celebratory shooting. Yes, yes, yes.
That's just fun. But when actually a bullet hits somebody, that's a shooting.
3,000. Now, these days, medical care is so good that all these people who would otherwise be shot and died, they get rushed off to the hospital, and we have these wonderful techniques that we developed in Iraq to bring them back to life.
But there's still been 500 murders.
Yeah, actually, it's fascinating because another story broke on Friday of last week that they're breaking ground on a $43 million emergency hospital, part of the University of Chicago system, that's going to be closer to the all-black areas where these shootings take place, the Austin neighborhood. Because Chicago is such a fascinating city.
It's roughly one-third white, one-third black, and one-third Hispanic.
And there's massive segregation.
And you can look at a map of the city and basically the non-fatal shootings are happening in areas where white people don't go, where white people don't live.
And it goes back to the study that we opened up this conversation with.
We can talk, oh, it's poor future time orientation.
It's lack of impulse control.
Well, maybe that's not just it.
Maybe it has to do with the study you mentioned at the beginning and just how incompatible.
That this racial demographic is with the civilization that whites have built.
And if I could go a step further, a city like Memphis, Tennessee, which we don't even talk about anymore, they are actually on pace to break the record of homicide set in 1992 or 1993.
It was 213. They just broke last year's number, which is 161.
and they are on the verge of actually having double the homicide rate when you break it down for population of
Chicago.
And we just don't talk about all this.
And Monday night is going to be the first debate.
And Salon just published an article that said, don't let Trump mention the FBI stats because they're going
to come out on Monday.
They're going to be released for 2015.
And the left still wants to deny the Ferguson effect, the idea that when cops don't want to be Darren Wilson and they
decide to pull back and go to the proverbial donut shop, that, well, this is laddie.
as Heather McDonald noted.
I'm wondering if Trump is going to continue to harp on the whole law and order message to Hillary.
Because Hillary has already doubled down and basically said that the criminal justice reform is very important.
We want to let blacks out of jail.
Barack Obama has already commuted sentences of almost 700 largely black individuals.
Judicial Watch is actually breaking down these numbers, I've heard, through the grapevine, to try and show it because no...
No journalist entity seems interested to try and find out who these individuals are.
Judicial Watch actually noted that one of the people that Barack Obama commuted did commit a murder after they were let out.
That was back in early 2016.
I'm sorry for knocking the microphone, but I just feel that Donald Trump has the opportunity here.
It goes on the whole law and order kick and it does tie into what's going on in the NFL and seeing these multi-millionaire athletes, black athletes defiantly raising the black fist, the black power fist, taking a knee.
You're beginning to showcase to so many people who've never thought in terms of race that America is a fundamentally different country than the one they were born in and raised in and that they're going to leave to their children and grandchildren.
And this could never have happened without Trump, but more importantly It's exacerbated by the existence of Donald J. Trump.
You know, you're absolutely right about that.
And as for this first debate, I'm sure you saw that video of Hillary Clinton after the September 11th memorial waiting for her limousine and she collapses into it.
Just her legs buckle.
It was the most pathetic thing I've seen in a long time.
Well, I thought to myself...
That's going to be Hillary after the first debate.
Well, real quick, we were talking on that Sunday when it happened on September 11th.
And I remember seeing a little news line that said Hillary had to be removed.
Now, I wanted to bring it up, but I was like, who knows what this is going to be?
The video is even more damning than you're bringing up because it's obvious she's unconscious.
She collapses.
She's not moving her legs.
And I'm wondering the...
The psychological effect that's going to have on people if Hillary has a coughing fit.
And I know this really doesn't have anything to do with our conversation, but this is where the knockout plow is going to come.
What Trump's response is.
And I'm wondering if anyone listening to this has any access to Trump, because I think Trump should be a pure gentleman if she starts coughing, and walk over to her and offer his handkerchief.
And not do anything else.
Just be a gentleman about it.
I had a discussion with someone about whether or not Trump would be better off if she's reduced to tears.
I can't make up my mind.
I mean, that would be a devastating thing.
Nobody wants a woman who is reduced to tears as your Commander-in-Chief.
On the other hand, that is such a brutal thing.
I can't make up my mind.
But, you know, the next time we talk, maybe we should delay it until after this debate, because I'm sure we'll have a lot to talk about.
So, anyway, thank you so much for coming in, Brother Kersey.
It's always a thrill.
It's always great to hear your insights.
And we'll talk again next week.
To the American Renaissance audience, you guys keep making this site one of the most important sites out there, and more importantly, don't give up hope.
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