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Jan. 13, 2026 - Jim Fetzer
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Truth vs. NEW$ Inc, Part 2 (12 January 2025) with Don Grahn, Joachim Hagopian, and Brian Davidson
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And welcome back, folks.
This is Truth versus all that news out there.
Truth versus News Incorporated, the show that hits hard-hitting subjects of all kinds of things that are going on in this crazy world in 2026.
This is January the 12th here.
And so now I guess let's go to Noriega and Maduro and other murderers.
All kinds of things that are happening that shouldn't be happening in this world that's exposed at all.
Well, you're right, Don.
From Noriega to Maduro, America's long history of kidnapping.
This is from the Mint Press.
This is actually quite good.
While it has undeniably shocked the world at Trump's admin abduction of President Nicolas Maduro, it fits into a long history of United States kidnapping of foreign leaders.
On January 3rd, U.S. Special Forces entered Venezuela by air, captured Maduro and First Lady Flores, killing around 80 people in the process.
And Joaquim, I want to get your opinion about the mystery weapons.
They used some kind of acoustical weapon to wipe them out.
It was effortless.
They didn't have a chance.
They were flown to the United States, where And possession of firearm charges.
Despite Trump himself declaring that kidnapping was an appropriate term for what happened, corporate media around the world have refrained from using the obvious word for what transpired, preferring to use capturing or seizing.
These terms reframe the incident and cast doubt on its illegality.
Helping to manufacture public consent for a grave breach of international law and deed.
Managers at the BBC sent out a memo to staff, instructing them in no uncertain term to avoid using kidnapped when reporting on the news.
There's more.
The Real Tyrannical Regime by Caitlin Johnstone.
She is so good.
The Real Tyrannical Regime.
Right-wingers are like, "Listen to Venezuelans!" No, not the Venezuelans in the streets demanding Maduro's return. No, not the Poles saying most people in Venezuela oppose US regime change. Those are the wrong Venezuelans. I mean,
listen to the Venezuelan talking to Fox News from his mansion in Miami. They're like, Trump needed to invade Venezuela and abduct its president, because otherwise that poor country would be victimized by the whims of a despotic tyrant. Actually,
fellas, I'm pretty sure the real tyrannical regime is the one who's claiming the entire Western Hemisphere is their personal property and they get to control what happens in every country on half the planet. Pretty sure what's tyrannical is invading a country, Murdering scores of people, and abducting its leader in order to steal control of its resources.
Kind of think the real tyrant on the scene is whoever's trying to rule the world and aggressively targeting any country anywhere on the planet that resists that agenda.
Like, maybe a really good example of tyranny would be constantly toppling governments and starting wars of aggression and targeting civilian populations with starvation sanctions.
And waging proxy conflicts and dropping bombs and interfering in elections and circling the planet with hundreds of military bases and working to kill, subvert, and subjugate any population anywhere on Earth if they disobey your commands.
Pretty sure the tyrant we actually need to worry about is whoever's doing that.
Gotta wash my hair.
If it gets any more oily, I'll have Delta Force breaking down my door to steal it.
Yeah, Caitlin Johnstone, just brilliant.
Meanwhile, Kevin Barrett, close your nose behind Trump's destruction of the rule of law.
This is very thoughtful.
My dear friend writes a lot of good stuff.
Here he is.
This is an interview he did.
A mother of three was shot in broad daylight and killed.
How do you see these protests ever from past?
Do you think that'll bring about a change?
This could be the spark, the light of flames and of uprising against this completely brutal, unconstitutional, treasonous, Israeli-owned Trump regime. There are basically three key points I would make here. One is that the absolute and complete destruction of all forms of law and civilized behavior by Donald Trump and his insane minions,
and they're as insane as he is, by basically humoring him and going along with him. The purpose of all this is that Trump was inserted into office by the most To pursue this agenda of trashing international law by kidnapping presidents,
pushing things to the brink of World War III against Russia, stealing people's ships, threatening to invade Greenland and Canada, supporting genocide in Palestine, all of this is because the Jewish Zionist supremacist billionaires, who in the United States, ever since they murdered the Kennedys and blew up the World Trade Center,
Don't believe they'll continue to rule in a world that has law. A lawful world is a world that will stop the genocide of Palestine. So, they want Trump in office specifically to put an end to all forms of law, domestic and international, and create a gangster culture, a law of the jungle culture,
Where might is right, And mass agents can just snatch people off the street for no reason or disappear them with no due process, no constitutional rights whatsoever.
People who write editorials in favor of Palestine and college newspapers get snatched off the street by mass goons.
Now they're shooting people down.
So my first point is that the Zionist billionaires who are behind Trump's agenda destroying the rule of law.
And then secondly, it's really important to note, we have to look at this kind of incident case by case to see what really happened.
But for instance, the earlier controversy in Minneapolis-St. Paul over George Floyd was actually distorted by the left-wing people, and an injustice was done to a police officer who was actually following department procedure tragically and perhaps unwisely.
But that particular George Floyd incident was not a case of egregious extreme abuse by law enforcement.
But this case is a case of murder by an ICE agent.
We're going to pursue that further in our next series of stories.
Meanwhile...
Joaquin, your thoughts? Yeah, the situation with Noriega and down to Maduro, I mean, on and on and on, you know, the history of the CIA, the history of color revolution and regime change, and, you know, most of that from the 1953 Iran, I mean, you know, assassinations,
you know, the Chilean Leader in 1973, on and on. Assassination, regime change. That's what America's been all about for the last many, many years now. I mean, you know,
and especially in the Western Hemisphere, but all over the world, really. The CIA has been operating with Mossad and MI6. They're the culprits. And that's what their agenda is. A community in this world,
those three networks, the private army of the elites, the ones that city of London that control the purse strings, the money changers,
you know? They're the private army of those guys. And they want one world government, you know? And so, of course, they've installed Trump, you know, to be their man that just Goes in there like a bull at a China shop and just is the bully of the world and totally disregards international law,
all the things that have set the rules of war, total violation. And by the way, yes, they use the direct energy weapons, scalar weaponry. Yes,
it's definite. In Venezuela. They neutralized all the electronic system there in the country. They neutralized the defense system that,
you know, they built up that defense system with the help of Russia and China. And yeah, they were able to disable it with DE and scalar weaponry. So there you go. Supposedly against international law as well. So,
yeah, I mean, anything that America does, whether it's covert or overt, in this case it's very overt, is illegal. We live in a lawless world and basically they've installed that guy Trump in there to make world war. You know,
the peacetime president making world war now, which only goes to show everything is is like a wag the dog misdirection because, you know, he's still one percent of the Epstein files have been released. One percent. So and you're not going to get, you know, it's already out there. People like me put it out there,
but that he is a pedophile. But He's going to do his best to keep dodging the bullets by actually shooting bullets at other countries and other people. Everything, basically, to take the heat off himself. That's the agenda now. That's why every week there's another misadventure with another invasion, another, you know, threat of war. You know, I mean,
it's definitely coming. There's no turning back. It's irreversible at this point. And it's all because they want to depopulate our Earth. And they use World War as the big weapons,
you know? World War I and World War II are the most deadly wars in all of history. Well, here we go with World War III. It's coming. It's actually a hybrid war right now. It's hybrid World War III, but the guns are going to be blazing very soon with an Iran invasion and airstrikes and all the rest of it that U.S. and Israel will be doing again. So, yeah,
it's kosher Nostra. They're in charge. And Trump and company, the Western world, does everything for Israel. And, you know, the victims are the world inhabitants. Because we don't know where this is going, but we've never been so endangered before. Because it could go nuclear,
Whether it goes nuclear or scalar and direct energy, because that's just as deadly, just without the fallout of radiation, or certainly a lot less.
And they have that, That weaponry that they are actually using now.
So who knows what's going to happen as far as the death toll around the world.
But the agenda of the ones that are doing this want 90, 95 percent of the human population gone. So here we go. Just as an aside, are Russia, China, and Iran prepared to deal with this new class of weapons? Yeah, well,
Russia especially has been developing their own arsenal that's high-tech. I mean, yeah, they just launched another Areshnik missile in Liev, you know,
and that's like 40 miles from the Polish border. Underground fuel system that they got there in that part of the western part of northwestern part of Ukraine. So, Yeah.
You know, they crossed so many red lines with Russia.
And Russia is getting tougher now.
I believe they're finally showing the world that there is no Mock over 10 weapons that the West has.
They do not have it.
They do not have the ones that can outmaneuver and fly high in the higher atmosphere.
They don't have that kind of weaponry that we know about anyway.
You know, so, yeah, I mean, they have a match.
The military -industrial complex Of the American military industrial complex.
So they get their weapon and they're a well -oiled, honed machine, having been in combat now since 2022.
Whereas the American in the West, they're ill -equipped.
It's going to be a mop -up, a horror show, when the West actually goes against Russia and China and Iran.
It's going to be horrible, But that's the agenda of the controllers Brian Okay, so there's two different Layers to the conversation.
Number one was weapons And use of force Using super high technology Structures, And the other one is basically The weapon Of tyranny, Kidnapping and Lawlessness.
Lawlessness, right?
So I guess.
My point is, The weapons are always Going to be One upsmanship, One nation, another nation, Spies, groups of spies, New developments.
new technology. I am not so concerned about the street-grade weapons as I am about the weapons of propaganda. That are used to redefine moral authority and break loose from the standards of civilization. And when I say civilization,
I mean civilized. And what we've got here is we covered three articles from Mint Press, Unes, and Johnstone,
and I think it was Barrett was the other one. Yeah. And basically, you've got all these guys coming together saying the U.S. is acting like a tyrant. And it's not that they're offering the same explanations. They're all coming from a different angle,
but they've recognized it as the same conclusion so without validating the authors because i think that they're largely right in the way they're we're acting
I would say that all of it is designed to normalize the behavior of.
We will do whatever we want, as long as we have the propaganda machine in place to support and endorse what we do, which is the action of tyranny.
As long as we continue to do it, that normalizes it through repetition. And everyone is corrupt, so we just need to be corrupter, sort of normalizes it as a full-on moral collapse, And then the rest of it is lost in the confusion and fear, which is why you see so much piling on to the news cycles day after day after today.
So people basically are beginning to learn to accept that tyranny is irreversible, unavoidable, and that it cannot be resisted.
And this leads to learned helplessness instead of civil disobedience and true liberation.
So the downstream effects of the propaganda machine are that they drive cynicism to such a level that it replaces civil disobedience, that it turns the extremities of the crowd into the norms that we have to protect ourselves from.
And that basically makes the power structures virtually completely untouchable, because all Everything gets ground out by identity warfare, with Black Lives Matter and with, you know, whatever the soup of the day is in terms of who's the victim of what, where, when, and how.
And so this power that they seem to be wielding with the propaganda is not surviving by debate or by suppressing critics, but it's by letting everybody destroy each other. Basically, if tyranny exists,
it will never be defeated by historical resignation. It's going to have to be defeated by the light of truth. And the only reason it's succeeding right now is that nobody's talking about the structures that are in place and how to defeat them by shedding light on them. And then,
you know, as for the last part with the weapons, I have no doubt that technology has gone beyond my wildest imagination. I have seen the damage done by the directed energy weapons, but I think that if that technology ends up leaking into the wrong hands and we are not part of a protective apparatus such as an international organization that's protecting us,
Then we could very well be the victims of a full-on nuclear annihilation if we're caught using these techniques. Now, I think we already did get caught with the pipeline incident, Although they never pinned it on us.
But there's a lot of color revolutions, a lot of CIA activity, a lot of propaganda machine activity.
And the whole world basically just needs to see this stuff and have it exposed for what it is.
Rather than take the Mossad perspective that victory is obtained through use of these deceptive weapons.
Which is morally reprehensible.
Yeah, the new classes at weaponry are scary indeed.
Meanwhile, here we have it. Renee Good hopes debunked in 90 seconds. Let's take a look and see what we make of this. Mix cinnamon with oats. Gym trainers don't want you to know this, Because many say it could help you lose up to 5 kilos.
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So it goes directly over your... ...and a woman of 32 years.
René has 3 children, 15, 12 and 6 years, 33.
L'agent a already received 33 points of suture.
33 stitches in his leg, so you think maybe he's a little bit sensitive.
In the symbolic masonics, 33 marks the Renaissance, like the name René in French.
And the scene is located in some blocks of the of George Floyd, because it's the logic of logic.
The emotional shock creates the protestations.
On descend dans la rue, et le chaos produit sert ensuite à justifier le changement vers un état policier à la Hunger Games.
Because without chaos, no new order.
ICE is the cold, The machine without empathy.
Exactly like the universe of the saga.
Trump c'est Snow, celui qui transforme la violence en spectacle.
Et il a même annoncé les Patriot Games.
Dans le dernier film on voit les architectes du jeu, avec le logo maçonnique, des professionnels de la mise en scène.
Meanwhile, a new video shows the ice officer's perspective of what happened.
Let me find the, The sound, sometimes, it's hard to find. There we go. Actually, from the cell phone of the ICE officer who shot Rene Good. The video has already been shared on social media by Vice President JD Vance and reposted by the White House. I want to warn you, You will hear some expletives in this Video.
We don't know who says them, and just generally, the video is Disturbing.
There are plates every morning, just so you Know.
We're on the same plate when you come talk to us Later.
That's fine.
U .S. Citizen, you want to come at us?
You want to come at us?
I say, go get yourself some lunch, big boy. Get out of the car. Get out of the car. Get out of the car. Back with us, Michael Feinberg, former special agent in charge with the FBI and an MSNOW national security and intelligence analyst.
This is very different from the videos we've seen before.
What do you see from an investigative standpoint?
Frankly, law enforcement officers overreacting to what admittedly might be some.
I don't know what happened here, why we lost.
What happened?
I can't, I'm not at all sure what happened.
I'll try to resurrect, get us back into the groove.
No, my screen has gone blank.
Are we being attacked?
Are you attacked?
Not just Joaquin, the whole show here?
Wow.
It's looking like it's spreading.
It sure does.
I'm not quite sure if I can recover here.
This is kind of easy.
Let me go back.
Stop the sharing.
Okay, Let's go to the original stories.
Not that.
Let's see here.
yeah here we go okay yeah let me let me see what i'm gonna do Get us back.
Video shows, ice officer, respect. That's where we were. Yeah, we do better. Scott Nguyen, showing a very different angle of that deadly Minneapolis ice shooting. This video was obtained by Alpha News. Apparently, it is actually from the cell phone of the ICE officer who shot Renee Goode.
The video has already been shared on social media by Vice President JD Vance and reposted by the White House.
I want to warn you, you will hear some expletives in this video.
We don't know who says them.
And just generally, the video is.
Meantime, we have breaking news.
Brand new cell phone video we've just gotten in, showing a very different angle of that deadly Minneapolis ICE shooting.
showing a very different angle of that deadly Minneapolis ice shooting.
This video was obtained by Alpha News.
This video was obtained by Alpha News.
Apparently, it is actually from the cell phone of the ice officer who shot Renee Goode.
Apparently, it is actually from the cell phone of the ICE officer who shot Renee Goode.
Meantime, we have breaking news.
Meantime, we have a video we've just gotten in.
Yeah, breaking news.
I can edit this out.
Yes, yes, yes.
Wow.
Wow.
Let's see what we get.
Can I get us back to where we need to be?
Meanwhile, there's a Brown report about Renee Goode.
This is a reporter for InfoWars.
I actually know the guy.
He's very...
very good here's what do we got here it's okay we don't change our plates every morning just so you know it'll be the same plate when you come talk to us later that's fine u.s citizen you want to come at us you want to come at us I said, go get yourself some lunch, big boy.
Get out of the car, Get out of the car, Get out of the car.
I said, get out of the car.
Renee Nicole Good wasn't a lot of things.
But she also wasn't someone that deserves to be used to further divide Americans by the desperation of a governor and a mayor drowning in an ongoing fraud investigation.
Our police, many of whom are Somali themselves, are trusted partners in keeping people safe.
They will not collaborate with any federal agency around doing immigration enforcement work.
They will not cooperate.
With ICE agents.
Minneapolis will continue to be a safe haven for undocumented immigrants.
In Minneapolis, we have your back. You will be protected and respected by our city employees, regardless of your immigration status. I have a message for ICE. To ICE, get the f*** out of Minneapolis. Minnesotans,
don't take the bait. Do not take the bait. Do not allow them to deploy federal troops into here. Do not allow them to invoke the Insurrection Act. Do not allow them to declare martial law. She also doesn't deserve to be used by the Mockingbird media as gasoline to be thrown on a fire. As the vehicle passes, You can see the dark colored SUV driven by Renee Nicole Good.
That's on the right there in the back.
The surveillance video taken by a home nearby agents can be seen milling about near the vehicle, then converging on it, And then you see, right there, the SUV begins to move and that's when the shots are fired.
There's not the slightest doubt in your mind, having viewed it, that This the victim.
You still believe that she deliberately tried to round him.
Despite, despite seeing this video.
Look, I don't know what it's in a person's heart or in a person's head, and obviously we're not going to get the chance to ask this woman what was going on.
What I am certain of is that she violated the law.
If people want to say that we should have a legitimate debate about, you know, what was she really doing right?
Was she panicking when she drove into this officer or was she actually trying to ram him?
That's a that's a reasonable conversation.
What's not reasonable is for so many of you to plaster all over the media that this was an innocent woman and that the ice agent committed murder.
Which is what many of you have said explicitly and some of you have said implicitly.
She also wasn't at the wrong place at the wrong time.
And she wasn't merely a legal observer.
She was an anti -ice radical and apparently knew exactly what she was doing.
They clearly wanted her out of there um, because she was the main car leading the um the protest is my understanding.
I talked to another guy who was driving behind her um, but she was.
She was very at uh, She was very successful in blocking traffic.
She was doing what she was, what she was set out to do, And so they wanted to get her the hell out of there Yeah, so it looked like she was impeding ICE vehicles. Definitely. Yeah, that was her goal Did you guys know that she had enrolled her kid in a charter school in Minneapolis that was training parents to fight ICE? Because she absolutely did. The New York Post has an article out where they dug into this Southside Family Charter School a little bit. Apparently this school is where Renee Good,
who was fairly new to Minneapolis, was introduced to ICE protesting in the first place. Oddly enough, this school sounds way worse than a leering sitter. It was opened in 1972 to have an unabashed focus on social justice education. No, really,
this is straight from their website. We integrate social justice into every grade level, telling the stories of the people, not the people in power, and helping students understand history and their role in making the world a better place. A gym teacher who retired last month said that current events like George Floyd were a regular part of the curriculum. This is for little kids. So the article goes on to say that it was through her involvement with the community itself It's outside Family Charter School that Renee Good got involved with Ice Watch,
a group dedicated to disrupting ice. And clearly her wife knew as well. You want to come at us? I say go get yourself some lunch, big boy. So as the left continues down this path,
it appears that Renee Good will only be the first of many. John Bowne, reporting for InfoWars. And one more. We got Renee Good's rap sheet. She has quite a few offenses,
including state probation, violation, domestic abuse, child endangerment, interfering with medical treatment, Battery of a police officer.
I was pretty disillusioned to learn during my two shows today where it was discussed.
I did an hour and a half with Danny Sears.
He's got a long history of law enforcement on the Rod deal.
An hour and a half.
And he mentioned that she and her partner had custody of a young boy and he was removed from her, their custody because they were burning him with cigarettes.
I mean, that's just disgusting.
Now, Danny felt this was a justifiable shoot.
You can actually see in some of that footage, the officer was right there in front of her fender, and he'd already pulled his gun when she ran into him.
But the last caller on my show on Authentic News on RBN today, the last caller said, and he was reading statues.
he appears to have a legal background. That ICE agents have very limited legal authority, and it's not at all clear. In fact, I think he said they don't have the ability to arrest, they don't have the ability to enforce traffic laws,
even, for example, which raises questions about the whole shebang. Joaquin, your thoughts? Radical leftists trained and paid,
too, by the way, to disrupt, you know, to basically become the left versus right civil war. I mean, you know, this is the agenda, and they have lots of money behind them, too. You know,
Somebody makes the wrong move and then, you know, somebody dies.
I mean, and the problem is these kind of incidents are going to multiply where there's going to be mobs that are attacking ICE and there will be more bullets flying.
And we'll have a situation where, you know, they're going to call it massacres.
And, you know, it's Antifa is mobilized.
They've been mobilized now.
I think that there are also terrorist sleeper cells operating that will be activated.
It's going to be a full-scale civil war unrest in the major cities of America.
We're seeing the beginnings of it right now.
So that's a sad direction of where we're headed.
As far as this individual case and as far as what film footage we're seeing, you know, obviously, I believe that ICE, Trump has sent out National Guard and ICE as federal military forces, basically,
to do the policing. A violation. You can't use military force in a policing operation in America,
domestic soil. And that's what we're seeing. And, you know, Trump had the gall to actually say, well, they disrespected ICE, the federal authorities. They disrespected them, and that's what they get. He actually said that. He said, He justified the shooting by saying they disrespected the federal force, i.e.,
they deserved it. So this is where we're going. We have a president that's out of control. His executive power is so excessive. By the way,
there are Republicans now joining the Democrats To curtail his abusive authoritarian dictatorship authority. So we have a war going on within the government now, Too, There probably will be impeachment proceedings.
It's going to get really ugly in America, as well as all those war zones out there.
That's what we're seeing.
The Democrats are making this nice thing a bottom -line issue.
Why are they fighting it so fiercely?
And I've concluded that it's because the Trump phenomenon was so popular that they lost so many past Democrat voters, myself included, that they feared they couldn't win another election if they didn't have the open borders, if they couldn't reconstitute the demographics by bringing in these masses of immigrants.
And that's why Biden had the whole thing.
It was to re -establish a Democrat voting bloc, And that this guy, the mayor turns out to be Jewish.
The mayor of Minneapolis turns out to be Jewish.
But it appears, you know, they got the massive Somali voting bloc.
They've got all the scandals.
They got all the corruption.
He's got to be in on the payoff.
I have no doubt about it.
You got the governor saying he doesn't want ICE to come to Minnesota.
Well, what the hell?
It's federal law.
The state governor can't resist federal law.
I think the reason they're fighting it so fiercely is because this, without these immigrants, they are a lost cause.
And there's no more ever, ever election for the Democratic Party for the foreseeable future.
That's the best I can do.
Brian, your thoughts?
Well, first of all, let me go ahead and address this. The entire apparatus wins with a false flag used under these circumstances. This doesn't have anything to do with Democrats or progressive It has to do with keeping the nation in a fog and getting us to take sides,
Whether it's going to be to side with federal officials who defend the shooting or to side with local officials who call the self -defense narrative into question.
the confusion and the fog remains and remember with the democrats right now just because the progressive mindset is sliding into oblivion quickly that doesn't necessarily mean that the democratic structures built inside the large blue urban areas are breaking down quite yet you That's what they've historically relied on.
I don't think they're too worried about whether an election is going to be a real election at this point in time.
I think this is more about just keeping the American population confused and in choosing a side Now, this has all the effects. Again, I'm going to go back to my false flags and conspiracies conference cultural assimilation presentation, because I use Sandy Hook, the Dallas police shooting,
Santa Fe. I used a couple of different false flags to show how they're used for what ultimate purpose. And in this, we see the pattern so perfectly fit this. You've got number one, two different sides with Totally different accounts of what happened, and then you've got a media who's trying to drive it all together into one big talking point. You've got this massive, rapid,
intense social media reaction that is all the way around from completely fabricated to totally misidentified media,
and That all these factual disputes are buried in noise, and whether or not it's artificial intelligence is buried in noise. Does this sound familiar? Yeah, the Charlie Kirk incident 2.0. And so what that does is it's a narrative saturation technique to keep everybody stuck in a bit of a cloud of,
I can't really decide, so I'm going to go with the loudest, most reasonable voice. And then, of course, Add to it your symbolic, emotional imagery, which is, you know, Photos of a mother of three with her child's belongings visible, which, you know, they always use that.
or the, you know, the poor shoes, empty shoes that somebody fell out of when they were being hit by a truck inside of the Las Vegas shooting.
And then you've got, of course, in this one, you've got the same total local investigative by the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension withdrew from the investigation due to lack of access.
And so this is more part of the, oh, we're going to commit this with stay.
but as long as right now we can amplify the narratives, we can still exploit this. And by the way, if we ever need to just cycle this thing out of the news cycle, we're there. And it also has this emotionally charged shock event effect, you know, that interrupts your normal cognitive processing and invokes an immediate response one way or another. So basically,
short circuits the analytical side of doing this. And of course, you've got the All these broader themes going on that include federal overreach,
community safety, all of this is coming together into it. It's a template for creating, again, a situation where we're ready to pass a new law. We can just spend some new money. Let's go ahead and saturate the people and get them all totally fatigued out about it. And then let's throw all this noise in the middle of it,
and then they won't be looking at the left hand while the right is going. So you've got this emotional polarization that makes people stop and think, this lock in the narrative. And,
you know, I don't trust any of these events. The pattern is so familiar. Shock, conflicting narratives, emotional imagery, overload. And, of course, you've got the public that they're,
who cares about verified facts? Let's just stick with whatever sticks. Meanwhile, we have American companies paying Israeli firms to spy on journalists. Journalists in the United States and worldwide are now being spied on using Israeli software,
Israeli spyware. And U.S. companies are actually purchasing Israeli spyware to spy not only on journalists, but on citizens, influential figures, and many others for potential blackmail, espionage,
all the likes. A private Mossad for civilians goes worldwide to make its clients secure. Subra Intelligence Solutions brings expertise acquired in Israel's security services to the general population. And Subra Intelligence Solutions uses IDF officers previously in Israel's 8200 unit,
Israel's intelligence units, and they're now selling their services to do investigative work, which they say is fully legal. Of course, we don't know what's happening actually behind the scenes. And they're selling these services to billionaires, the article says billionaires, to influential figures,
to maybe states abroad. And they're offering these services now to spy on potentially anybody that those individuals, their clients want, which of course includes journalists and individuals seeking just simply to discover the truth. So these are Israeli surveillance text vendors like NSO Group and many others that are basically now using and implanting these devices to spy on journalists. And to make sure that they basically get compromising material so they can't talk about specific subjects,
they are consistently being surveilled, so that way if they get too close to breaking a story that the government doesn't want, who knows what the government could do. This article was actually written just two days ago, and of course this has to do with ICE. Now, regardless of how you feel about ICE, What you need to understand is there's U.S. government agencies now that are purchasing Israeli software and Israeli spyware to spy on Americans and to spy on those living in America.
Whether or not you care what you think about ICE, what you have to understand is if ICE is purchasing this and they're saying they're purchasing this to spy on undocumented illegals in the United States, do you really not believe that they would extend this technology on American citizens?
Yeah, entirely possible.
Meanwhile, in America, the greatest threat is Tucker Carlson became a fan of Hamas, saying that they're just a political movement against Islamophobia, an advocate of radical Islam.
Are an advocate of a radical Islam.
This is Israel's minister of diaspora affairs on Anti-semitism, Mhi Chickley.
This is Israel's minister of diaspora affairs on anti-Semitism, Emma Chai Chickley.
Even Netanyahu has commented on Tucker Carlson because Tucker Carlson previously said that the Jews that are currently living in Israel aren't actually descendants of the ancient Israelites.
Even Netanyahu has commented on Tucker Carlson because Tucker Carlson previously said that the Jews that are currently living in Israel aren't actually descendants of the ancient Israelites.
Tucker Carlson actually hinted, actually once, that it's the Palestinians that have indigenousness, indigeneity to the land, and you know, what's interesting is that if it comes to anti-semitism, like true hatred towards a specific group of people, there are many other dissenting voices that are not Tucker Carlson and you could say, oh well, it's because Tucker Carlson has a big platform.
I think it's because of the fact that Tucker Carlson, no matter how much he says, he's not an anti-semite.
He's critical of the United States relationship with Israel, and you know what's interesting when it comes to left wing or left leaning podcasters that are Anti-israel.
They're not as much of a Threat.
To the state of Israel as much as right -wing or right -leaning conservative podcasters are, that are dissenting voices of Israel.
My hunch is that Israel clearly sees that within the United States, the left has already made its decision on Israel.
When it comes to the right though, that's something different.
different.
So Israel sees its stronghold now in the American right and any voice that seemingly starts to hurt that sort of relationship between Israel and the conservative right in America is going to be viewed as an enemy to Israel, the right.
No doubt, no doubt about it.
Meanwhile, Devin, there's just so much lying that occurred.
It was the biggest scandal in U .S. History.
How did I know about it?
Well, because I had all the intelligence by that time. It's been almost a decade since Devin Nunes spearheaded an investigation into the scandal that became known as Russiagate. With now FBI Director Kash Patel. Grand conspiracy that they blamed Trump of doing, They actually were doing.
Now the big question is, was anybody going to be held accountable?
From my perspective as a non -lawyer, what I'd be looking at is a grand conspiracy case that goes from 2015 -2016, all the way through, at least, to the raid at Mar -a -Lago.
Nunes is now chair of the President's Intelligence Advisory Board.
And also CEO of Truth Media AND Technology Group.
They recently announced an unexpected merger with the pioneering nuclear fusion company, TAE Technologies. You can have all the technology you want, all the AI, all the data centers, but there's a problem. There's not enough power. I do believe that nuclear fusion is the answer. The Chinese have put untold billions into this. We're really racing against the clock. This is American Thought Leaders and I'm Jan Jekielek. Yes,
And finally, James Comer says, "The lack of arrest and accountability is the biggest Republican complaint, meaning the greatest obstacle the Republicans have to retaining political power.
Suzy Wilde pushed to hire her fellow big pharma lobbyist, Pam Bondi, as AG.
Bondi did nothing with Epstein when she was AG in Florida.
Now the entire megabase is frustrated." About the complete failure of the DOJ and FBI to hold anyone big accountable for anything.
Meanwhile, Donald Trump and the GOP are going to be shellacked in the midterms, and Wiles and Bondi continue to make excuses.
They've even gone so far as to create a social media hit squad, seemingly headed by Dan Bongino, to go after the base instead of just doing their job. I'm praying the president wakes up and gets rid of the people, destroying his admins so MAGA can win the midterms. I gotta say, I'm very doubtful that's going to happen. Joaquin, your thoughts? No,
I think Donald Trump's doing a great job to give Democrats the majority in Congress. I can guarantee that that's going to happen. He's already lost it. You know,
the Republicans are The Republicans need to actually do a rebellion against Trump to save their party. They have to do that now. Because if they just go along with him and he continues,
there's no way they're going to be the majority in Congress come next November. It ain't going to happen. I can already see the writing on the wall. And this is the way the controllers have always played it. You know,
the left versus right, you know? It's the old divide and rule over and over and over again. Whether we're talking countries, western bloc versus eastern bloc, or parties, political parties. Republicans, Democrats, same old game, same old playbook. It works every time. So they flip-flop back and forth, back and forth, and the controllers pull all the strings, the same ones,
you know, one administration after the next. It doesn't matter. That's why history doesn't change. They use the same playbook over and over and over and forever. Get away with it. That's the bottom line here to all of this,
really. So, you know, let me look at the content here now. The Israeli leaders put Tucker Carlson in the crosshairs and they're actually paying now. Israeli firms are spying on journalists. Hey,
I think I'm a victim of that myself. Bouncing, I know, out of the show. Yeah, okay, I think they have their poll all the way. Yep, uh-huh. Yeah, I think it's, they pretty much have hijacked the conservative movement, that's for sure. You know, they put out the money for people to actually,
on the conservative frame, to be able to frame it. Pro-Israel. And then the whole anti-Semitism laws, you know, they're going full gusto on that, along with the technocracy of the, you know, watching us 24-7 and tracking everything on the internet, you know. Yeah. And as far as, you know, Devin Nunes,
yeah, okay. The Democrats did a number on Trump, and now it's Trump's turn to do a number on the Democrats. It goes back and forth. They kind of neutralize themselves,
because they're both controlled by the same money changers. That's the bottom line. James Comer is saying there's a lack of arrests and accountability. Yeah. We have Clintons,
you know. They're a prime example of James Comber's oversight committee constantly trying to get them in front of their board, their meeting, and they refuse. The Clintons are refusing, you know. The Clinton crime family, you know, they haven't been accounted for for any of their crimes, you know, so yeah, it just kind of goes on and on, you know, and to a great extent, yes,
I believe that it is like a subterfuge, you know, wag the dog again, misdirection from the bottom line that we're going to World War III, you know, that Trump has been a pedophile for a long time, and he doesn't want that information out, because it shows that he's a completely controlled stooge that does what he's told,
and he's making a mess of the world because he's been installed to do that. That's his job, you know? It's always the same group,
you know? Brian? Well, I think that we're here, we're talking architecturally about some pretty big ideas. I heard conservative movement hijacked,
and I don't see the world through such lenses as simple as conservatives versus progressives. It has a lot of different facets to it as well. There's a part of MAGA that's just power-hungry that just wants to see the Democrats buried and the progressive movement buried because it's so offensive,
boys and girls sports and boys and girls bathrooms, and it's so anti-conservative. Now, conservative, if you think about it, means we conserve the ways of our fathers and our fathers before that, which were ways of morality. Progressive, on the other hand, is the idea of we're going to progress past those old ways that our fathers put together, those old fences and those old boundaries,
and we're going to test a new structure for the world, a new structure that doesn't rely on those old stodgy founding fathers in our history, those old bad guys that had slaves and those old bad guys that existed in a pre-civilized world where You know,
guys like Sir William Blackstone were around writing the four-volume commentaries on the laws of New England as if they were less sophisticated than the founding fathers. Give me a break. We're neophytes compared to those guys these days. But they look back at the conservatives and think of them as stodgy old moral sticklers that want to eliminate gay marriage and make normal. A normal routine,
normal again, and give the father back the home and put the mother back in the kitchen barefooted and pregnant, you know. It's kind of strange, though, as you take a look at the different factions that have been developed,
I really think that you can almost break it down into a CNN, MSNBC faction. A Fox News faction, an alternative media faction, a conservative Zionist faction that gets their information from their local church, a faction for Black Lives Matter, a faction for whatever victim of the day soup is. You know, there's factions all over the place,
and the fundamental problem here is that we haven't had the arrest event. That centers the people around, hey, yeah, good, time to get them. This is the enemy. And that's fundamentally a problem with justice,
is that it's not blind to these cultural pressures pushing everything one way or another. Justice right now seems to be based on who has the political motive and opportunity to generate the biggest windfall from this Messed up situation. And the problem that we have right now,
if I was running for president, I would make these things clear. I would sit down and I wouldn't talk about my agenda for how I'm going to make America great, economically successful again. I'd be talking about the agenda of bringing the people together. But of course,
that would get me assassinated, just like Kennedy was. Sad to say, here we have Donald Trump, in whom we invested so much hope Because he promised to put America first and be a peace guy. Now he's turned out to put Israel first and become a war among her. What a disappointment. Don,
take us out. Yeah, what a disappointment. Oh, boy. What a heavy couple of hours we put on here today. Here on the 12th of January 2029. 26. Anyway,
yeah. And so we want to get this show out, so post it if you can, folks, because we can't get it all out ourselves, but I'm sure glad that we're producing the show, that it's worthwhile for the world to see,
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