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The Event (Raw Deal + Wisdom Circle) 07 July 21 Guest: Dr Henry Makow

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	The wall between Studio A, The Wisdom Circle, and Studio B, The Raw Deal.
	The wall falls.
	History is made.
	Wisdom Circle plus The Raw Deal equals The Event.
	James Fetzer.
	David Scorpio.
	Giuseppe Garofalo.
	History is made.
	And now, the event.
	Well, it's a great pleasure today to have an extraordinary man as our guest.
	A dear friend of both of us, whom we both admire, describes Henry Macao as a child prodigy who never ceased being a prodigy.
	He had an internationally syndicated newspaper column before he was 10.
	His doctrine in English literature was just a step on the path of his life, utterly overshadowed by his subsequent work.
	His knowledge of the secret undercurrents of the economic and political world is perhaps unmatched by anyone alive today.
	He was the first major figure to point out the satanic underpinnings of the network of conspiratorial banking and political phenomena.
	Although Henry is Jewish, he never hesitates to point out the fact that Talmudic and Kabbalistic elements have corrupted the spiritual Torah traditions that have persuaded Christians and Muslims to regard the Ten Commandments and other milestones of the Jewish faith as fitting foundations for their own religions.
	In this regard, he shares a perspective of many Torah-true Jews, and indeed follows in the tradition of Jesus himself, who denounced the so-called traditions of men that they used to supplant the words of God.
	Although Henry Macau would be the very first to reject the comparison.
	It's hard to avoid comparing him with the prophets of the Old Testament like them.
	He has been utterly fearless in his expression of fidelity to God and his opposition to Satan in all of his manifestations.
	As an indication of his role as a prodigy, back in 2017, Henry appeared on What's My Line as a guest columnist with a panel including Dorothy Kilgallen, Tony Randall, Bennett Cerf, and Arlene Francis, where they were challenged to discover that he wrote an advice column for parents One of which, remarkably, was entitled, Sex and Money Will Never Really Make Us Happy.
	What an astonishing guy.
	Giuseppe.
	Well, Jim, as we're waiting for Henry to click on his, uh, let me, you know, I should probably look at my email to see.
	Why he's not here yet.
	But while we're waiting, we could watch a little bit of that clip from 1962, What's My Line, a young Henry Macko, as in tobacco.
	Now we've got a jockey.
	Henry!
	Macko, is that right?
	Right.
	and be nice to each other.
	applause music
	applause Mr. Macko, where are your problems?
	Ottawa, Canada.
	Ottawa, Canada.
	How nice it is to have somebody from our neighbors come down and see us.
	May I present our panel, Mr. Macro?
	And will you join me over here, please, Henry?
	Are you familiar with our school keeping system?
	Yes.
	In that event, we'll let the audience in the theater and the audience at home know exactly what your line is.
	Alright, panel, Mr. Maco is salaried, deals in the service.
	Well now that Henry's here, we can stop that.
	How about that?
	Wow.
	Welcome, Henry, and amazing to have had that experience at such a young age.
	What are your recollections of being on What's My Line?
	Well, my line for my earliest career is that I peak too early.
	What was the other line?
	Oh, I forget.
	Anyway, what was the question?
	My earliest recollections?
	No, of the appearance with Dorothy Allen and Tony Bennett and so forth.
	Yeah, I remember getting their autographs, but apart from that, I don't remember much.
	I was 11.
	That would be like 60 years ago.
	Yeah, that was remarkable.
	How did that occur?
	Did some talent coordinator discover you were writing that column and invited you?
	How did that all happen?
	Let me shut my curtains because I can see there's a big white... Look away from the light, Henry!
	Henry began with one paper in Canada and by the time he had He appeared on What's My Line.
	It was in 35 different newspapers, and he wasn't even 12 years old.
	Wow.
	Well, anyway, yeah, that went on for three years.
	You know, I sort of see my life in terms of three acts.
	The Ask Henry was Act One, Scruples was Act Two, and now HenryMacco.com.
	Which has not been nearly as materially successful, is at three.
	Henry, how did you write a column entitled, Sex and Money Will Never Really Make Us Happy, when you were still prepubescent?
	I mean, that's pretty remarkable!
	Yeah, it looks like I was Proffering advice from a very young age.
	Again, I don't have any recollection of that and certainly I didn't follow my own advice for a great part of my life.
	So, yeah, but now I'm, you know, it's funny, you know, they say youth is wasted on the young.
	I really, I feel like I've just, Kind of reaching maturity, you know, in my late 60s and 70s, my early 70s.
	Really a testament to the arrested development of someone who takes his cues from the mass media and education, which is what I did.
	Like, I'm a classic case of arrested development, perhaps one of the worst.
	Henry, one of your recent columns, actually June 24, 2021, Slaughter of the Lambs is a truth movement controlled opposition.
	We all know, of course, Lenin observed that the best way to control the opposition is to lead it.
	As a founder of Scholars for 9-11 Truth back in December of 2005, I've long since concluded that architects and engineers on the one hand, and Judy Wood and her Do group on the other, are both limited hangouts.
	That are intended to provide a part of the story, but not the most significant.
	Neither will discuss who is responsible and why, which means that their discussion of technical issues becomes minutiae in the mind of the public since they do not have a context within which to embed it.
	Moreover, While advocating nanothermite by architects and engineers and directed energy weapons by Judy Wood and her Do group, they're actually misleading because it turns out that, as even the U.S.
	Geological Survey established based on dust studies of 35 locations in lower Manhattan, elements were present, including barium, strontium, lithium, lanthanum, tritium, Some of which only occur in radioactive form that would have not been there had it not been a nuclear event.
	Very sophisticated.
	I think you're spot on, however, because architects and engineers have sucked up most of the money from Americans who know no better.
	Can't tell the difference between real science and fake science, where nanothermite cannot possibly have been responsible for blowing apart those buildings.
	It turns out that in order to destroy concrete or steel, you must have a detonation velocity equal to or greater than the speed of sound in those materials.
	Well, the speed of sound in concrete is 3,200 meters per second, in steel 6,100 meters per second.
	But the highest detonation velocity ever attributed to nanothermite is only 895 meters per second.
	You can't get there from there.
	So I think you're absolutely spot on, Henry, that the truth movement is a form of controlled opposition.
	Well, let's expand this with that, for example, and I believe that definitely includes Donald Trump.
	I mean, he's like number one on the list, right?
	Well, I might take exception to that, Henry, but we're keen to have your views here today.
	And while I believe Trump is a flawed individual and committed mistakes, and I condemn his enthusiastic support for Israel in multiple manifestations, I believe he did good work for the economy.
	It led to 40% of black likely voters declaring an Erasmus in Poland December 2019.
	They were going to vote for Donald Trump.
	Because by locking down the border, their wages were rising at the highest rate, and by calling out the fake news, Henry... Jim, Jim, I'm not saying he didn't do great things.
	He did a lot of great things.
	Otherwise, he'd have no credibility, and he wouldn't be effective as fake opposition.
	But when it came down to the crunch, you know, he didn't ensure that the election was not rigged.
	I mean, that's number one.
	And then two, he surrounded himself with traitors.
	You know, Bill Barr and even his appointees in the Supreme Court.
	In other words, I believe he was tagged to take a fall and allow the communists to rig the election because communists and Zionists, and he's a Zionist, work hand in hand.
	They're both Freemasons.
	The right and left wing of the Freemason Party, which is, as you know, an instrument of the central bankers.
	I mean, that's the bottom line.
	Scorpio, join the conversation.
	Yes, Henry, good to talk to you again, sir.
	I guess my question would be maybe a two-part question.
	How did you become aware of this satanic conspiracy?
	What was your wake-up call?
	And secondly, who do you think sits on the top of the pyramid?
	Do you believe it to be the central bankers or is there a covert force above that?
	Well, I'm sure the second part's... I think there might be Sanhedrin or some kind of demonic, spiritual, religious body that might be up at the top.
	But for all intents and purposes, I think if we start with the central banks, which are run, but would be run by the, directed by the Sanhedrin, that's far enough.
	Basically the Rothschilds and Soros and the whole central banking cartel is as far as I go, as far as I've found that I've needed to go.
	But the implications are extremely serious because it means that, you know, we are controlled by money and money is controlled by a worst enemy and that's why we're in the predicament we're in today.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And what was your sort of wake-up call into seeing this satanic conspiracy and realizing, you know, the vast scope of it?
	How did you progress?
	It started in 2000 when Roughly year 2000 I was teaching at the University of Winnipeg part-time and I couldn't understand why the promotion of feminism and homosexuality was going on and I actually went to see someone at the Business Council of Manitoba
	Which would be like the round table for my province and told him, like, don't you care that they're promoting homosexuality and that they're suppressing and they're criticizing and trying to destroy capitalism?
	Like, don't you care?
	Aren't you guys businessmen?
	And he didn't care.
	Oh, he denied that it was happening.
	So obviously, I realize there's something very, very fishy going on.
	I mean, the promotion of homosexuality and lesbianism, I mean, it's insanity.
	I mean, and I wouldn't mind talking about feminism later, but that was my clue.
	And so my website began as SaveTheMales.ca.
	And it began as a critique of feminism, but I soon realized that feminism was just a symptom of a much larger conspiracy.
	Which I eventually identified as Satanic, and Satanism is the religion of death.
	It's the worship of death and destruction.
	And that's why we've had so much death and destruction in the last couple of hundred years.
	And unfortunately, you know, I'm an ethnic Jew, but unfortunately, Kabbalist Judaism And which defines Judaism is satanic.
	And, you know, I hate to say that.
	I was never a religious Jew anyway.
	I've always been an assimilated Jew, which means I identify with the goyim.
	You know, I identify with the human race.
	I want the human race... I identify with God.
	And I want the human race to fulfill its Henry, I think you'll find a lot of support here for that point of view.
	jewish bankers and send headwinds behind them i would want to be off the direction like we are basically
	we're basically down for the count were basically circling the green we're in big big trouble
	uh... memory i think you'll find a lot of support here for that point of view
	just happy your thoughts well henry wonderful to have you on the show again
	Thank you for taking the time.
	An enormous admirer of your career.
	And my question is, I absolutely concur that this malignancy that rules this world and has done so for millennia is, you know, based on when the human race kind of emerged from the antediluvian floods.
	There were different compelling civilizations, the Babylonians, the Sumerians, the Scythians, and others, and not everybody worshipped a god that any of us could admire.
	Some of them did worship this absolute evil, which is commonly known as Satanism today and just because a couple thousand years ago the amazing Christianity, Jesus the Christ, arose and there was an unconditional love that was promulgated as the proper path for religious
	enlightenment, it doesn't mean that these individuals stopped worshipping their
	malignant dark God, which has always been the case. And as this is the case, and it
	seems they're taking orders from some other type of dimension or realm, and
	they roll these extremely long Khans, these extremely long initiatives, and
	there's a stunning amount of similarities between a century ago with
	the Spanish flu, scandemic, the mask enslavement, The attack of worldwide communism.
	And do you see the similarities going on today?
	And if so, why do you think they're rolling it out a century later again?
	Well, you know, they never... I don't think they ever stop.
	I mean, the World Wars were both psyops too, you know?
	So, you had all these people marching off to war just like they're marching off to get vaccinated.
	I mean, it's all brainwashing.
	World War I, World War II were all engineered by the central bankers.
	Hitler was an agent, in my opinion.
	I've written a number of articles to support that view.
	And the Cold War was a total charade.
	Vietnam was, you know, Korea, all these wars were contrived and controlled.
	So they've been basically pulling off the, and then 9-11, of course, and the assassination of JFK, they've been pulling off these things.
	These PsyOps for centuries.
	It's their modus operandi.
	And so, they're pulling this one off now.
	People say it's because the financial system's coming apart.
	And that may very well be.
	And there definitely seems like they're blowing it up.
	It seems like they're creating so many U.S.
	dollars in order to Eventually torpedo it but it seems to the US dollar doesn't seem to want to go down because a dollar is really mostly a psychological Concept a value there's no such thing as a dollar when money changes hands and you know, it's it's just digits to change the whole thing is it's all digits in our minds and
	Anyway, there's so much debt, they seem to want to destroy the system and recreate it with one global currency, and I think that's the direction we're headed.
	But it's slow, you know, all these developments take place so slowly that we hardly recognize that they're happening.
	Scorpio, your thoughts?
	Well, Henry, you know, you're just absolutely spot on.
	I have tremendous respect for what you're saying.
	And it does seem as though the financial system is coming apart.
	Here we have Groper Joe, you know, spending a trillion dollars, multiple trillion dollars at a time.
	This is unprecedented.
	And, you know, we're reaching a point very rapidly where just trying to pay the interest on the debt is going to exceed all Uh, incoming revenue for the federal government, yet they've got their foot on the gas pedal spending as much as possible.
	It seems like they're just deliberately trying to destroy the old system, uh, in every way so they can bring about this, this new, um, whatever you want to call it, global reset or this new world order system.
	Great reset is just a rebranding of the new world order, essentially, I believe.
	Well, absolutely.
	I don't think we realize how much they hate us, how much they hate the United States.
	I think Soros and Netanyahu have said it.
	They hate the United States because it's been a bit of an obstacle to their complete world control.
	But, you know, they put in a president who was a homosexual and his wife was a transsexual, and now they put in a senile pedophile who is a proven criminal and traitor.
	I mean, and we all take this, Americans take that in stride, you know?
	And then, of course, they pull off this ridiculous COVID scam where they can't even be bothered to Spread a real, a real disease because apparently we're stupid enough to just accept the common cold as a horrible virus.
	But, you know, like, are people too stupid to realize that a half a percent, a death rate of a half a percent or less is not a pandemic?
	I mean, and no cause to wreck the economy, wreck lives.
	Unless you, unless you realize That first of all, they've been pulling off these psyops for so long, and they can totally control the media and education, that they figure, well, actually, yeah, we don't need to kill you with the virus.
	We're going to kill you with the vaccine.
	And so that seems to be what might be ahead for us.
	And it all makes sense if you understand that they're Satanists, and Satanists believe in something called creative destruction, which is basically destroy everything, destroy everyone, and then we'll be able to rebuild the world according to our Perversions and our material interests.
	That seems to be the bigger agenda.
	And just look for capitalist creative destruction on my website for evidence of that.
	But that's actually what they believe in.
	Creative destruction.
	Then it all makes sense.
	They're deliberately destroying society.
	I mean, it's obvious.
	Yeah, it is.
	On every front, too.
	And using homosexuality and transsexual, and the whole agenda is just to pervert every decent aspect of society and transform it into a satanic inversion, essentially.
	And Henry, I was wondering, you know, as an ethnic Jew and, you know, What kind of backlash have you received for daring to point out the Jewish aspect of this conspiracy?
	Have you personally had a lot of fallout from people calling you a self-hating Jew or whatever the term is they want to call you?
	No, I've been largely ignored.
	You know, except for being kicked off of PayPal.
	Otherwise, I really, and then the Canadian Jewish Congress tried to take me to their tribunal about 15 years ago, but then the laws were changed, so they gave up on that.
	So I've had relatively little pushback, and I think the reason is my parents were real Holocaust survivors.
	They spent the war years in Nazi Germany or Nazi-occupied Europe, in the case of my mother, Basically, passing as Christians.
	But, I mean, they're genuine Holocaust survivors.
	Their parents were murdered.
	So, I don't think the I don't think organized Jewry wants to draw attention to me because I've got probably a lot of credibility.
	And I'm really speaking for all those Jews who are going to suffer if there's a backlash.
	The Jewish dupes, the ordinary Jews, my family.
	You know, I mean, ordinary Jews are being put in jeopardy, but I mean, do I need to explain?
	Right, that's just a blanket term that gets thrown around to control the parameters of the conversation.
	And it's not, I don't believe in hating anyone.
	It's just a matter of pointing out who the players are in this game and being honest about it.
	And yes, you know, there is a huge difference between the average Jew that owns the corner deli
	or whatever, and these people that we're talking about that sit atop the pyramid.
	There's completely different types of people.
	And really what it looks like to me is they're just gonna go after everybody with this vaccine.
	They're vaccinating everybody, trying to kill as many people as possible,
	regardless of your race or whatever, you know.
	There's a new report, by the way, out of a school of engineering in Spain
	entitled Graphene Oxide Detection in Aqueous Suspension, showing that the Pfizer shot was found
	to contain six nanograms of RNA and 747 nanograms of graphese oxide,
	which is 99.103% of the medication.
	This is a form of toxicity that will bring about physical destruction, oxidative stress, DNA damage, inflammatory response, antiphagy, necrosis, a host of other issues.
	This is a poison.
	And I mean, the American people are falling for it, including some I care about very, very much, where we seem to be en route to fulfilling the prediction coming from deagle.com that the U.S.
	population is going to drop from 330 million in 2000 to 65 million in 2025, and less than Five years, we're going to lose 265 million Americans.
	Henry, these reports are disturbing in the extreme, and it appears this is an example where they're announcing in advance what they're going to do to, in their mind, shift responsibility to the public, because they've told us it's going to happen, and if we do nothing about it, we deserve what we get.
	Well, that seems to be the strategy, but can you imagine if that actually comes to pass?
	Can you imagine the anger, you know, when you've got 300 million guns or more out there?
	Can you imagine what's going to happen?
	And can you imagine what's going to happen to Jews?
	You know?
	If anything, I'm trying to sound a warning.
	Obviously, let's hope this doesn't happen because my relatives are also vaccinated.
	But if it does, they're going to want to blame someone.
	Giuseppe, your thoughts?
	Well, I'm of two minds when it comes to the Quack-sonation one is it's certainly Malevolent, but I also am
	You wouldn't know this, Henry.
	My midlife career change was I went back to college and became a Doctor of Oriental Medicine with a Master's of Science in Oriental Medicine and a Bachelor's of Science in Eastern and Western Nutrition combined.
	And I've had a small, holistic practice of acupuncture, Chinese herbology, and nutrition, nutraceuticals for 15 years.
	And one thing I've seen is the human body is remarkably resilient and adaptive.
	And so I sometimes wonder if they're going, they're killing a fraction of the
	people to continue with the fear entrainment.
	And then the real agenda is to get this new type of nanotechnology in the people
	that at first will be very subtle and cause them to become more docile and more
	obedient, and then eventually can be increased to be some form of subliminal
	mind control.
	that I...
	I wonder if that's not their real plan, because if they murder as many as the Deagle estimates, they're not going to be able to hide behind anything.
	And if they take the scenario that I'm describing, they get to hide behind, oh my god, it's the Epsilon variant!
	It's the Zeta variant!
	You know, they can continue this ridiculous scam.
	And so, what are your thoughts on that?
	Yeah, I think you're right.
	They tend to move gradually, and this is a whole control mechanism.
	They're not likely to, you know, drop by having tens of millions of people die off.
	So I think your scenario makes more sense.
	It's about nanotechnology and some kind of mind control, hooking us up
	to 5G. I mean, this is just speculation, but it's an explanation for what they're up to.
	Unfortunately, we're probably only going to find out when it's too late. Yeah. Henry,
	there's so many weird things being promoted by this administration as critical race theory,
	exacerbating racial tensions, trying to be discriminatory in government benefits contrary
	to the Constitution and a mass of laws that preclude discrimination not only
	against blacks.
	But against whites, then leaving the homeless on the street, releasing criminals into the street, defunding the police, all of this seems to me to be calculated to bring about a state of anarchy, where they might truly reimagine the United States, bring in UN troops, federalize the police force, all kinds of very bad things.
	What's your assessment here?
	Then I have further questions about all the transgender business, which is such rubbish.
	I can hardly believe it's happening or anyone's taking it seriously.
	Your thoughts?
	Well, this all falls under the rubric of destroying society.
	You know what?
	I'd like to ask you a question, Jim.
	What about Asha Logo?
	I'm really grateful to you for introducing me to Asha Logo.
	It's Logos with an S. I've followed him for years.
	He's a remarkable populist, revisionist historian.
	He is really amazing in his investigation of the real history of mankind.
	He is really, really something special.
	You know, Henry, I wonder if that could have been inadvertent because Asha Logos hasn't stood prominent in my mind or consciousness.
	I'm rather fascinated by what you have found there with this figure and his report.
	I found him on your website.
	I think it was your website.
	Yeah, Jim, you posted the latest Asha Logos video, which is a call for new cultural creators.
	Yeah, I included in that article about his, the opposition control.
	Yeah, this guy, I won't listen to that video.
	I mean, I'm gonna have to sit down and listen to the others, but this guy is brilliant.
	And one of the things he says is that we shouldn't try to fight this.
	We should let society disintegrate.
	It's too far gone, too corrupt.
	What's your take on that, Henry?
	I mean, that sounds pretty bizarre, not to resist when there's a major effort to destroy America.
	I find that His second part of his recommendation is to try to create alternatives and alternative cultures.
	He thinks our energy should go in a constructive direction and he calls us a resistance.
	He calls that a game of whack-a-mole, you know, because, you know, and so what's my take on it?
	I think coming after our lives and our wives and children, I think we have to, I think we have to resist.
	We can't just lie down or we can't hide.
	So, yeah, I agree with you, Jim.
	And, you know, and I admire your leadership in terms of resistance.
	Nonetheless, you know, he made it, he made an interesting point, you know, where he said that our Focusing on all the sickness that's coming our way, which is what I do in my GAP feed, is spiritually toxic.
	And instead we should just, you know, shine the light instead of fight the darkness.
	What do you guys think about that?
	Scorpio.
	Well, I think it's spot-on pretty much.
	I think our society has reached a point of no return, and I think we're going to have to build a new society out of the ashes of this one.
	If things continue on their current trajectory, we're looking at abject slavery for pretty much the entire human race, except for you'll have an elite ruling class And we're also going to face massive depopulation.
	I think the way, you know, going back to the vaccine thing just briefly, I believe that the best, if you look at it from the point of view of the conspirators, you can't have too many people die off at once.
	It's too obvious.
	So it's got to happen slowly.
	So I believe there's going to be a slow kill element in this.
	where people become sick from a variety of maladies over the next five to ten to twenty years
	and it's all explainable under conventional medical terms.
	Oh you had a heart attack, sorry about that. You got cancer, too bad. You know it's
	nothing to do with the vaccine.
	I think that's how they're going to play this out.
	Giuseppe.
	I think that Henry is spot on and I'm a tremendous admirer of Asha Logos's work.
	I've followed his stuff for years, and I think that it's vital to focus on the positive, and the United States, as it's been, is done.
	I mean, if you look at the level of mind control of the newest generations, they are absolutely Entrained, obedient, little dolts, you know?
	They're allowing their divine gifts of, you know, a man is a man, a woman is a woman, you should be in harmony with nature.
	Instead, they're like being guided into, oh, play more games and put on that headset and enter the virtual reality and the whole lunacy of the Curzweil's singularity nonsense, and I think that the only sane solution for the people who are holding their families together and understand that everything is destroyed, I mean, to me it's laughable, this Patriot movement.
	I mean, there's people, frauds like the Patriot streetwalker, who are getting all kinds of Uh, play in the mainstream media when he's just a controlled, uh, lemming and, and the only threat where, which could be a movement would be a nationals populist movement.
	And instead they're letting Donald Trump, uh, be their, their false messiah.
	It's ridiculous.
	So I think that the only way is to focus on the micro, not the macro and figure out ways to eat
	as much clean food that you can grow or barter with people who are growing,
	and eliminate interaction with corporate pharmaceuticals as much as possible,
	eliminate interaction with corporate big agra and it's deadly glyphosate poisoning as much as possible,
	do not allow the state to educate your children and there has to be little clusters of individuals
	who can ride this genocide out.
	And it's...
	It's a genocide of decency more so than piling up dead bodies.
	What's coming with the people who are buying into this...
	Such an insidious level of enslavement, where they're mainlining Panem et Kirkances between these fools' toes, and they don't even understand that they're losing all contact with their own soul that way.
	So I'm just, you know...
	It's happening.
	Like you said, it's going to happen.
	And we have to focus on the little islands of humanity that will make it.
	And hopefully, somehow, like the seeds spread in a field, they grow.
	Henry, just for a point of clarification, surely you do not believe we'd be better off had instead Hillary Clinton prevailed in the election of 2016?
	Well, of course not, and I, you know, I was, I was a cautious supporter of Trump while pointing out from the beginning that he's a Jew, he's a Kabbalist, and he's obviously false.
	He's also, he's obviously false opposition, but having, pointing that out, you know, I did rejoice when he beat Clinton and, you know, and did support the The things he did to maintain American identity and independence and so on.
	The real issue is, I mean, is there an alternative?
	I mean, you know, I don't think there's going to be violent resistance until there's a mass die-off.
	I think only a mass die-off will scare and anger people enough
	to actually respond violently.
	So we're not going to see that unless until that happens.
	Otherwise, the only way to save America, to save the United States and save the world indirectly,
	would be for a military coup.
	And they seem to be afraid of that.
	But there doesn't seem to be much sign that that's going to happen.
	But that's the only thing that would save America, would be a military coup.
	Some general, some smarter, wiser George Patton or Douglas And that's the only thing that will save America, military coup.
	And I don't see that happening.
	So, so those, those are our options, the save yourself and shine the light option and
	just or wait for the
	the oligarchs to be discredited by the mass die-off
	That seems even then But even then Henry when they're discredited and we have
	such pessimistic projections as by a world famous
	virologist that Everyone who received the jab will be dead within five
	years What are the people gonna be able to do about it?
	You know, I'm terribly concerned.
	The American military appears to be full of wimps.
	We have a Secretary of Defense who's promoting transgenderism, wants to go after domestic extremists in the military.
	It means anyone in uniform who voted for Donald Trump or whoever embraced a belief in the U.S.
	Constitution.
	I mean, the situation is absurd beyond belief.
	What can be done?
	Well, there's no question that more and more people are waking up and, you know, more and more people are alarmed, more and more people realizing that this pandemic probably will not go away, the so-called pandemic, and hopefully there'll be a You know, enough people with enough smarts and enough rifles will rise up and start to resist.
	Well, I certainly believe the American people are not going to give up their weapons.
	I think the Democrats shot themselves in both feet with their defund the police agenda, which are now trying to palm off on Republicans who didn't support a Biden proposal that would have increased funding, as though the Democrats The Republicans were responsible for the Democrats' abusive position in promoting the riots, the looting, the arson.
	All summer we saw it.
	Minneapolis, Portland, Seattle.
	Nancy Pelosi was taking them on.
	Kamala Harris, Mad Max scene.
	I mean, it was beyond belief that the Democrats were promoting this lawlessness, but it now appears Yeah, I agree with you.
	of their overall agenda that it turns society into a state of anarchy where foreign forces
	can intervene to seize control of the United States. That seems to me to be a broad outline
	of what's taking place here today. Yeah, I agree with you.
	I agree with you, Jim.
	In fact, there's a meme floating around by Henry Kissinger, talks about UN
	troops in the streets of America.
	So that scenario you just outlined is quite, quite possible.
	You know, ultimately, it seems to me that there's really no hope.
	I mean, even this pandemic were to go away, They'd come up with something else.
	I mean, they've got their Agenda 2030 all mapped out.
	There's no hope as long as the banking system is controlled by Satanists, you know.
	I mean, they're going to use it to basically buy everyone off and turn them into Satanists and destroy society.
	The only way to save us would be for the banking system to be Reconstituted for Freemasonry to be banned.
	I mean, you know, we are far gone.
	We've gone down the wrong road for too, too long.
	And people, you know, people have been trying to sound the alarm for 30, 40 years or 50 years.
	But no one listens because we're all brainwashed to think that it's politically incorrect to Finger Jewish bankers.
	You know, we've just gone down the wrong path.
	I have a feeling we're just going to have to face the music.
	You know, when political correctness first came on the scene, it was clear to me this was the obfuscate serious discussion, critical thinking, logical analysis on some alleged ground we're going to hurt somebody's feelings.
	But freedom of speech has nothing to do with people's feelings.
	You're supposed to be able to say anything you want with very, very narrow constraints.
	And it's been used as a cudgel to defeat the First Amendment.
	I mean, if it means anything to be an American, it's the right to criticize your government freely and without fear of consequences.
	That's all changed today.
	And shaming, social media, isolation, all kinds of consequences now attend where the Big tech, the social media are acting in collusion with the Democrats to promote a very narrow extremist left-wing ideology.
	To me, it's something I never expected to see in my lifetime.
	You know, but we could we can flip that.
	It's kind of seen in a positive light because of this COVID scam.
	Basically, the true political reality has been exposed.
	We suddenly realized that all the politicians, all the professionals, The doctors, the lawyers, the judges, they're all Freemasons.
	They've all been bought.
	Our whole system is a sham.
	We have no real freedom.
	The only people who have any human rights are the people they want to give human rights to in order to destroy, in order to take away the human rights of the vast majority.
	So in a way, the positive thing is it's exposed the political reality to anyone who's got half a brain.
	And then the other positive thing is, this is what Satanists do.
	They test us.
	And we're being tested.
	If this wasn't happening, we'd never be tested, and we'd just continue to be revelers on a ship of fools.
	So maybe, you know, there's a kind of divine justice happening here, where we're being tested.
	We're being forced to man up.
	And maybe that's better than the alternative.
	Scorpio, I know you've got a lot to say.
	Join in.
	You know, there's always the law of unintended consequences at play here and what may end up happening is that I think more and more people are going to lose complete faith in this system as its corruption is further revealed and the maleficent nature of the people that run this system is revealed.
	You know, it's like they've decided to kill as many people as possible and they're hardly even trying to hide it anymore.
	So, as you mentioned earlier, more and more people really are waking up and I think there's going to be a result of people losing faith in the current system and certainly not wanting to create a new system where the same people are running it, only it's worse.
	So, maybe that's the reason why the controllers are on such an accelerated time level to get things done as quickly as possible.
	What are your thoughts on that?
	Well, I think you're right.
	You know, I have nothing to add.
	You're absolutely right.
	I mean, people can only take this bullshit for so long.
	You know, there's a relaxation of the lockdowns in order to give people the illusion that this is actually dependent on some imaginary virus.
	When in fact it's just an inducement to get people to vaccinate, to poison themselves.
	Right.
	That's what this relaxation of lockdowns is all about.
	It's a ruse.
	And once 80% of the population has poisoned itself or more, we'll see what the consequences are.
	But I don't think they're going to be pleasant.
	No, I agree.
	Things are going to get wild and crazy here pretty soon.
	There's no way around it.
	And when they make their big move to unplug the system, I believe they're going to have to essentially declare some type of martial law.
	They're not going to call it that, but I think that's going to be their only move.
	You know, I mean, I can see a day when the Internet will go down for I don't know how long.
	I can see the whole banking system going down.
	I can see us not having access to our so-called money.
	I can see anarchy, especially in the EU, you know, especially in the target countries, which is the Western Europe, the United States and Australia, Canada and Australia.
	I'm in Mexico.
	I mean, I mean, I'm not returning to Canada.
	They have no respect for human rights in Canada.
	Canada has just turned into a giant concentration camp, Henry.
	I've just been dumbfounded by what's been going on in Canada.
	You have ministers dragged out of their churches for conducting services.
	You have gun confiscation.
	You have forced vaccination.
	I'm just stunned by developments that are what has previously been our great friend north of our border.
	I have often in the past thought Canada was a more humane version of the United States.
	No longer.
	That has been proven to be a very false belief that has been refuted by the most recent developments.
	Well, I imagine you've been aware of the story that Justin Trudeau is Fidel Castro's son.
	Yeah, I'm 100% convinced he is.
	And so, you know, essentially, you know, when you've got Freemasons running everything, you virtually have communists running everything.
	Castro is a communist, Justin Trudeau is a communist.
	Communism is a satanic cult.
	And it basically, you know, controls and exploits its members.
	And all of us are becoming its members by making us all sick and killing us
	and taking our money. And that's what's happening.
	I mean, when you look at, you know, the Communist Manifesto, one of the platforms of the Communist Manifesto is that
	every country should have a central bank run by the Rothschilds.
	Well, what that means is that essentially, every country, the communists in every country will
	basically draw on the credit of every country in order to enrich themselves until the country falls apart,
	has no more credit.
	And that's what's happening now.
	That's what communists do.
	They basically rip off everyone else.
	That's what Kabbalist Jews do.
	They rip off everyone else and destroy everyone else.
	And why do they do this?
	Because Christ essentially enfranchised the human race.
	Everyone was equal under God.
	God loves everyone equally.
	And the Kabbalist Jewish view is that, no, God only loves us and everyone else was created to serve us.
	And that's what we're seeing unfold.
	But it's so preposterous and evil that people cannot comprehend this, especially when you've got the mass media, which they run, creating this illusion of normality and that somehow they're going to vote out the Democrats and so on.
	So people can't see what's really the big picture.
	What's really unfolding is basically a new dark age.
	I think that's right.
	Giuseppe, we're coming up on the break.
	Would you like to ask Henry a few additional questions in the meanwhile, and then we'll continue after?
	Well, I'd like to conclude after five minutes.
	Is that okay?
	I think I've said everything I have to say.
	I have a lot more questions for you.
	Sure, sure.
	I want to tell you, Jim, that I have huge respect for you.
	And how's that stupid lawsuit going with the Sandy Hook people?
	Well, it's before the Wisconsin Supreme Court, Henry, and if they have any integrity, I would expect a favorable ruling.
	I understand they're between a rock and a hard place.
	There are those suggesting FEMA's putting tremendous pressure on them to deny my appeal, but the evidence is so overwhelming where I wasn't even allowed to present a defense.
	That even though the death certificate about which this case revolves stated on its face that the individual in question had died in a public school in Sandy Hook, Connecticut of multiple gunshot wounds on 14 December 2012, the judge ruled that my massive evidence that nobody died at Sandy Hook was inadmissible.
	He wouldn't allow me to present an offense.
	It was about as blatant and outrageous a case.
	So I think the court, and this is an unusual state Supreme Court because it has seven members, six of whom are women, That's the debate between obvious abuse of justice to send back my case for a trial because it wasn't ripe for a summary judgment which was imposed upon me, even though the crucial fact of the matter, the authenticity of the death certificate was in dispute, and therefore summary judgment was inapplicable, but running the risk thereby of exposing the sham of the FEMA drills that Obama-Biden holder
	Administration and initiating this whole series of false flags, Henry.
	They're in a dilemma.
	I'm hoping they'll come down on the side of truth and justice, of which I've experienced
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	Well, this is Jim Fetzer from the Raw Deal and Giuseppe Vaffangulo and David Scorpio
	from the Golden Triangle with our special guest today, Henry Macau, who is really quite a fascinating guy
	who's led the life of a prodigy.
	Uh, uh, uh, uh.
	Henry, I wanted to pursue questions about the transgenderism, feminism.
	I think this is absurd, not recognizing the difference between men and women, girls and boys.
	There was a brilliant parody produced recently about a motorcyclist who identified as a bicyclist, and in spite of having lost 65 motorcycle races, he now began winning One bicycle race after another.
	This is just as bad as it gets, and I'm reminded of the adage that those who can convince us of absurdities can induce us to commit atrocities.
	I'm very troubled by all this, and let me add, too, Henry, you're not a guy to which the public has much access, so I want to put out an invitation to callers who may have questions for you, if that's agreeable with you, my friend, because we're just delighted to have you here.
	Sure, I appreciate it, Jim.
	I don't get a lot of attention, so I'm always glad to hear from my colleagues.
	So yeah, I'd be happy to answer any questions.
	I mean, feminism is how I first woke up to this problem.
	I mean, men are basically brainwashed To put women on a pedestal so that they're unapproachable.
	When in fact women need, the whole essence of the male-female relationship is that men provide leadership to women and women actually seek that from men.
	Men actually want to possess a woman.
	And make her want to be possessed by him.
	That's the heterosexual dynamic.
	And by making, telling women that men are oppressing them and families oppressive, and that they should be independent, strong and independent.
	Strong and independent is not what men want.
	I mean, I mean, they want a woman who can, you know, they want a woman who's Strong and independent enough to be a part of their team.
	They don't want a woman who is pursuing some kind of, sometime a dream.
	Women were designed to serve husbands and children and to be cherished and loved for doing that.
	And so this has been a deliberate poison in the heterosexual world Throwing a monkey wrench in the heterosexual dynamic.
	It's the reason I don't have a normal family.
	I mean, I've been married virtually four times.
	I have one son by my first marriage.
	That's not a normal family.
	Because I was brainwashed to know how to relate to women.
	Henry, let me ask, is it also the case of promotion of, you know, gay pride, you know, transsexualism, lesbianism?
	It seems to me this is further effort to undermine the status of society, but also, of course, contribute to reducing the population, because obviously two members of the same sex cannot reproduce.
	Barack and Michelle Obama being a perfect example.
	Those children are not their own.
	They were borrowed.
	And in fact, those who have tracked down their parents find the older girl looks just like her father.
	The other, the younger, just like her mother.
	I mean, these kinds of shams being perpetrated on the American people are, in my opinion, disgraceful, disgusting, repulsive.
	I don't like it.
	And I speak out against it.
	Well, you're my hero, Jim.
	We're basically, and you too Giuseppe, we're all on the same page, we're basically prophets in the wilderness.
	But you know, my God is truth, and my religion is being a witness to truth.
	I only care about the truth, and so this gives my life meaning.
	By the way, we're running ahead here where your calls are welcome here to 540-352-4452
	to speak with Henry Macko.
	This is really a fascinating opportunity that you're not likely to have again.
	He's an elusive fellow, but one who has a very distinctive status in the minds of many who have been paying attention.
	Giuseppe, your thoughts?
	My thoughts are everything Henry's observing is Uh, sadly dead on.
	And I mean, another thing based on what I had mentioned in hour one, you know we're seeing the the the the the rock of the weimar
	republic of germany being done the united states now
	and it's a bizarre thing henry that instead of a government that should be serving
	imagine you know a three-dimensional bell curve uh... of decent people regardless of race creed color
	who want to have the opportunity to make a living wage to have some
	level of of security and safety in their lives and and that's instead
	this uh... corrupt uh... government controlled by the statements
	are are are are are serving the the flotsam and jetsam the the lunatic
	fringe the uh... transsexuals the homosexuals the
	the the uh... bizarre uh...
	uh... you know everyone who can let their freak flag fly is now
	You know, everyone who can let their freak flag fly is now, oh, they're more important
	all that that they're more important than the mass of people
	than the mass of people who deserve the attention of the government.
	deserve the attention of the government you know the in my opinion
	You know, in my opinion, these freaks deserve to exist safely and they can do whatever they
	want in their basement, in their bedroom, in their clubs, but to have it on public television,
	to have it over the airwaves, it's just such an insane entrainment and it's actually embarrassing
	to look at these so-called social justice warriors and these parents who are allowing
	their children to lecture them on critical race theory and are allowing, like, this young
	black dude who's a guy and he's racing against women and now he wanted to go to the Olympics
	and thank God at least that was blocked because he's not a woman, he's a guy and he's racing
	against women.
	It's just absolute madness and yet this is because, oh, we have our feels, oh, you know,
	I really care about people who murder and rape and perform violent armed robberies.
	I mean, they're just victims.
	I don't think they are.
	I think they're...
	I think they're...
	They're dangerous predators and we really need to somehow get people in government who understand and prioritize the decent middle versus the lunatic fringe.
	Your thoughts on that statement?
	Well, you started off by describing a world in which people have a A fair opportunity to fulfill themselves and to meet reasonable material needs.
	I mean, that's the world we grew up in.
	That's where we thought we grew up in.
	But it was a world that did offer us a great deal of freedom and opportunity, if not the right information.
	But that's the Christian dispensation.
	That's reality under Christianity.
	And we're all equal under God.
	God is love.
	We are, our mission, personally and collectively, is to fulfill our divine potential.
	But now we're swinging to the satanic dispensation where we're all going to be enslaved and dispossessed.
	And in order to serve these maniacs who control the central banks, control the banking system.
	I don't think the government's serving the freaks.
	I think actually the freaks are serving the government because the government is trying to promote this freakishness as a way of destroying society, right?
	So that's why these freaks are being...
	We can just see...
	Mottled and touted and promoted.
	I mean, it's outrageous, Henry, what's going on here.
	You think that this was a major segment of society, of gay pride?
	It's just outrageous.
	And even our own military is being gutted.
	And if in fact they go forward with a mandatory vaccinations for the entire military, if it's indeed true that everyone who has a vax is going to be dead within five years, that will decimate America's military forces.
	I mean, it will be catastrophic.
	And yet that appears to be the plan.
	That appears to be the Biden-Harris and deep state agenda that's overwhelming the United States.
	Absolutely, and I can just imagine getting into trouble for calling them freaks, so I want to retract that and refer to them as deviants.
	I hope I can get away with that.
	Henry, I don't think anyone's going to dispute either term.
	We do have a couple of callers standing by.
	From the Revolution Radio chat room, we have Murr.
	Murr, join the conversation with Henry Macko.
	Oh, thank you.
	Hi, Jim, Giuseppe, Scorpio, wherever you are, and hi, Henry.
	Hi.
	For a long time, I've wanted to tell you kind of what happened there with rent.
	I'm a nobody, and I was a novice on the internet, and I would go around, and the only chat room I would use was what I call now God-ish.
	They call themselves God-like, but that's an op.
	So anyway, I would go around and look at different sites and see what was good.
	And this particular day, I looked at Ransom.
	He had his thing, their most plagiarized site on the web.
	And there was your wonderful article with Jim Stone's Fukushima report.
	This was in May, I guess, of 2011.
	So I trotted right over to Gotish and posted it, right?
	And if you remember, all hell broke loose shortly after.
	So that shows you the connection of the Jewish control, the Jewish domination, let's say.
	They don't control.
	They want you to think they control, but they dominate.
	And so, of course, that was taken down within two hours.
	So you must have just had it up there.
	And Henry posted at Rents for 12 years.
	They were friends.
	So I'm sorry, Jeff deserves being exposed.
	Yes, he has a nice voice.
	Yes, he has good guests.
	He still has always said, I'm the only one that said anything about Fukushima.
	And it's a lie.
	They had Israeli security there.
	And they're the ones that brought in this thing called a camera.
	But it was a device, a nuclear device.
	And they put it in building three that wasn't even operating.
	And besides that, they had Stuxnet.
	And they had the, uh, All I did was post Jim Stone's article on my website.
	still had the analog gauges, it would have given the game up.
	So they had all these things planned because just a few months before,
	they agreed to enrich uranium for Iran.
	So you can see how everything is connected and always has been.
	Well, that's interesting.
	All I did was post Jim Stone's article on my website.
	I didn't try to post it on Rens' website.
	He didn't post it on his website, but he used that as a pretext to sever our relationship.
	Which was, you know, a 12-year relationship.
	It was on his site!
	It was on his site.
	That's where I picked it up.
	From you with Jim's article.
	And he was like real proud of it.
	It was right at the top of the list.
	But he hadn't really read into it or hadn't been warned by his handlers.
	Okay, now, in November, November 4th of 2011, all of a sudden, here comes these guys out here with no warning that wanted to take a GBS rating.
	And what I had been doing here on Goddish afterward, too, the only ones I was really listening to was Alex Jones at the time, XLack6, right?
	So, you know, I thought it was pretty good, and I started putting on this one thread.
	In fact, He hadn't started, but he had David Icke, and he's the one that really started with revealing Zionism, where he had the, they dare not call it what it is, Zionism, or something like that.
	So anyway, there's this long running thread there, and almost every day I would put something on there, and that was what I put on there that day.
	But then I also started, like I was directly contacting Alex Jones, because he started saying things on his show.
	The very next day, from things I had posted.
	So this again shows you how they're connected.
	Like I said, why don't you have Russell Means, and then Russell Means passed away soon after, or John Trudell on.
	And the very next day, he was saying he couldn't get them.
	And he eventually got John Trudell, too.
	And they were both cancered out.
	I'm sorry, that's what you call it.
	Well, congratulations for being so on top of the story.
	I mean, you're really... We depend on people like you to track down these facts.
	Rents... Well, we had some fun... We had some fun, you and I, on Michael Herzog's before, too.
	Really?
	We spoke on his show.
	Yeah, Rents is an interesting character.
	I've got a link on my site over on the left, Jeff Rents Exposé.
	About five articles about me that I put up after our break, which are mostly dependent on information I got from his girlfriend.
	Quite an interesting story.
	Her name was Melinda and she was actually a physics prof at some university in the, Williams and Mary, some university in the East, but she had a PhD from Caltech.
	Hang on, Murr.
	Let Henry finish.
	three months away from tenure when she fell in love with Jeff and went and then went to
	live with him and soon discovered that he was a control maniac, control freak.
	And also she discovered that he has a history of exploiting women.
	Hang on Murr, let Henry finish.
	Go ahead, Henry.
	Well, just that he has a history of exploiting women and that he makes something like $300,000
	a year from his site and still asks for donations.
	I mean, he's a very talented guy.
	He must be about 76 by now.
	And he's a talented guy, but he's, well, it's hard to know.
	It's hard to place him.
	It's probably a good thing that he broke with me.
	He recently broke with Brother Nathaniel, you know.
	I mean, I can't... And then, of course, David Icke broke with me because of my fallout with Rents, you know, which, you know, I didn't do anything, but Icke broke with me anyway.
	And so I'm persona non grata with Rents, Icke, and Alex Jones, which is probably a pretty good indication of something.
	That is very bothersome.
	I'm troubled by that, including by Brother Nathaniel.
	Yeah, Murr, I'm not going to cut you off.
	Go ahead, you have another comment.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Yeah, I just wanted to say, Brother Nathaniel, the reason he was cut off, well, somebody in a chat room said that he emailed him and said, why haven't you been on?
	And he pointed him to a video, you know, how he would always play his, he'd just play the audio, of course, on Rents, but it was a video of transgender surgery.
	It's pretty graphic and awful, but it's real.
	It should be a good deterrent, you know?
	So that's supposedly why he won't have him on again.
	I mean, where is the loyalty?
	Where is the sense of a common cause?
	Why should Mike, Rance, why should Alex Jones?
	We should all be working together.
	I mean, my philosophy is I will work with anyone on the basis of what we have in common.
	I mean, there should be a sense of solidarity and a common movement.
	You know, I want to raise this story about Geoffrey Murray.
	He was a truther, a patriot, was shot dead by Greensboro, South Carolina police about six weeks ago.
	You know, if he had been black, this would have been all over the front page.
	He was white, a patriot, no mention anywhere except on my website.
	I mean, where is the solidarity?
	You know, we need to get behind.
	We need to unite.
	Get behind our heroes.
	I want you to stand by, Murr, but I want to bring in another caller.
	But Murr, you're welcome to hang in there and I'll come back to you.
	Bruce from Texas.
	Bruce, you're on with Henry Macko.
	Yes.
	How am I coming through?
	Let me know.
	Loud and clear.
	Loud and clear.
	Pretty clear?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	What an honor to speak with Mr. MacDowell and everybody else.
	And yeah, I like to pivot the conversation.
	These interpersonal stuff are important, but they can take up, they can divide us even further.
	To his point about homosexuality and destruction of civilization, And the taking down of this country.
	I think there's no better example, and I'm glad, Jim, that you brought up 9-11 early on.
	It's a gelatin demolition team that poses art students in the weeks and months prior to 9-11.
	They would put on graphic live art performances for the ultra rich area in the upper Manhattan social cliques, where they would actually perform nude and They call it Sequel Art.
	And they're obviously Bosad or some other television agency operatives.
	And there's a video that you can still find on YouTube and it's called Whatever Happened to Gelatin?
	And it's an introduction to a documentary on the group.
	And they can be seen up in the World Trade Center playing around, you know, when they made that window ledge on the same floor, I believe that was Exploded on 9-11.
	And this is like a festering infection in our country.
	And so it's no coincidence, I think, that it's being pushed as a battering ram to break down civilization.
	Well, there's no doubt about 9-11 having been basically an Israeli op.
	You're right, there were some 200 Mossad agents brought into the country as art students, and a lot of them were in the Twin Towers as the gelatin group.
	There were boxes of Hughes holders in abundance there.
	I believe they were used to position explosives to create the cookie-cutter-like cutouts on the facades of the North and the South Tower.
	Allegedly caused by planes, but no real planes could have entered the buildings.
	So I think they were responsible for creating that form of deception.
	If you inspect, you'll see there's no sign of any plane, any parts in those cutouts that they appear to have been designed to deceive, and where the actual A projection of the images appears to have been, surprise surprise, a sophisticated form of holograms, where I've explained this in many places, but where the brilliant work was by Richard Hall of the UK in his Flight 175 3D radar study.
	I've elaborated this most recently on a America Media Periscope.net with Scott Bennett, who has a program there now on Wednesdays and Fridays, and we did a series of three on 9-11 in just the last couple of weeks.
	You can also find them on my blog.
	At BitChute Channel Jim Fetzer, where the Israeli role here is indisputable for anyone who's objective at looking at the evidence where 9-11 was designed to create a pseudo justification for American military force to enter the Middle East and take out the modern Arab states that served as a counterbalance to Israel's domination of the entire region and eventually to confront the Persian nation of Iran It didn't play out that way because of the intervention of Iranian and Russian forces at the request of the democratically elected president of Syria.
	But as far as the big picture is concerned, Bruce, yes, I think there's no doubt about it.
	And many Israelis were arrested by the New York cops, who were actually very spot on There was a plan to blow up the Lincoln Tunnel, the Holland Tunnel, the Brooklyn Bridge.
	They were going to isolate Manhattan completely.
	It would have been far more devastating, but for the excellence of the NYPD, which de Blasio and Cuomo are doing their best to decimate and destruct.
	I mean, this whole business of getting rid of the police is utter insanity.
	Giuseppe, before we hit the break, would you like to add a few comments and thoughts?
	Yes, I'd like to ask Henry to elaborate on the roaring silence of the gentleman who was murdered in South Carolina.
	I remember briefly seeing that, but I didn't investigate it.
	So Henry, what stands out of that incident in your mind?
	Well, Jeff Murray was basically a name in my He would send links to me on a regular basis and many of them were very good and I posted them on Twitter until I was banned and then posted them on Gab and eventually I got an email from his sister telling me he had been murdered by the police in South Carolina, Greenville and
	He'd been accused of killing a cyclist in a park.
	You can just search my homepage, top left corner, Jeff Murray.
	Anyway, he'd been accused of murdering a cyclist in the park and then the police somehow found him and murdered him.
	But there's basically no No camera, body cam that shows that he pulled a gun on them, which is what they claimed.
	His sister said he didn't have a gun.
	He was just a good, you know, loyal patriot who his sister says has been, and he said actually in an email, that he has been gang-stopped by Freemasons all his life.
	And I have another contact in Greenville, South Carolina, who actually Wrote a six-part series, My Struggle Against Freemasons, on my site, and apparently Greenville, South Carolina is a Masonic hub.
	So, in any case, he was murdered in Coleburg by police, and it barely registered in the mass media.
	It didn't even register in the alt media.
	It's like no one cares.
	I don't know what to say, apart from that.
	Bruce, did you have a further question for Henry that you'd like to address?
	Thank you, Bruce.
	We have finessed the break for the sake of having more time with Henry.
	Scaredy Cat is standing by.
	Scaredy, give us your thoughts.
	Hi, Jim and Henry.
	Also, hello to Giuseppe, Scorpio, and hi to Mary and Bruce from Texas.
	Hello, everybody.
	So, Henry, and anybody else, Henry, you mentioned central bankers have done harm.
	To me, that's a vague term, and it adds to the hypnotism that we all are suffering under foggy minds and you know, good people are trying to see clearly what's happening.
	So could you mention a couple of living bankers, not in the past, such as Rothschild in the 1700s, a couple of actual names who you know have the worst policies in their banks, which countries or cities in which they live.
	And also, Comment on interest.
	Most human societies through the ages recognize that lending money and expecting interest in return impoverishes eventually, maybe not the first month, but decade after decade, grinds a society into dust where almost everybody ends up living And working as hard as they can, but all the money is going into the filthy rich banker's pockets, and society is not able to gather up enough money to pay for good projects.
	Such as, for example, I would like Jim's paper to be the paper of record, yet he can't even gather up enough money to hire an apprentice.
	Go ahead.
	Well, you know, the Rothschilds are still very present, and Jacob Rothschild is very much alive, and so is his son.
	And then there's George Soros, who's his lieutenant.
	But virtually, you know, virtually every bank, your bank, my bank, they're all basically Rothschild franchises, franchisees.
	They're sort of like McDonald's franchisees, they've just bought the franchise.
	They're basically front men for the Rothschilds.
	So basically the whole banking system is run by these sickness bankers.
	Whether they're all cognizant of the fact is not clear, but you can see it in the fact that all the banks are promoting homosexuality.
	Like, where does that come from?
	Why would the banks be promoting homosexuality?
	Um, and it's because they basically take their orders from the Rothschilds.
	And then all the corporations are promoting homosexuality.
	And why is that?
	Because they take their orders from the banks.
	And this whole, uh, scamdemic is, makes it clear that, you know, virtually every one position of authority, everyone is promoting this hoax.
	Is taking their orders from the banks and through the banks from the Rothschilds.
	And so I compare the banking system with the blood supply in a human being, and it's basically toxic.
	That's why we're in this position.
	And what's needed is the issue isn't interest.
	The issue is that the production of credit and currency should be made by sovereign governments who represent the interests of their people.
	It can be currency and credit can be created debt free.
	We don't need to borrow anything.
	And most of what's supposedly borrowed is created out of thin air.
	And the whole object of the bankers is to find pretexts to create Money for wars and basically bankrupt every country because all that money flows in, supposed money, flows into their pockets and eventually the whole system collapses, which is their end game anyway.
	So the only way we could save ourselves would be to regain control over the creation of the means of the medium of exchange, which is currency and credit.
	If we could do that, the human race would be saved.
	As is, the human race is doomed.
	I hate to be a doomster, but we are doomed.
	It has been said that compound interest is the greatest evil ever designed by the hand of man.
	So, you know, I think the Rothschild banking empire has made a tremendous difference in a negative way for the history of planet Earth, which you're suggesting may not long endure.
	Scarity, do you have a further question you'd like to put to Henry?
	Sure.
	Thank you, Jim.
	So, the family Rothschild that you mentioned, Henry, a family has a couple of hundred people.
	I still would like some direction from you as to pick out a couple of actual Rothschilds with actual names, give us the names, which countries they live in, among the two or three hundred, however many, in their households.
	You're going to have to research that yourself.
	I'm not your research assistant.
	I don't have this information at my fingertips.
	I'm sorry.
	Scaredy, we're good.
	Stand by, Scaredy.
	We've got another caller from Connecticut.
	Caller, please just give us your first name and join the conversation.
	Hi everybody, this is Christine from Revolution Radio, and I have a question to anyone who wants to answer it.
	I want to know your thoughts on if you think Trump is going to help us in great ways, or if you think he is just pandering to the conservatives, and the things that he says he wants to do.
	He's suing social media.
	for taking away our freedom of speech, etc. etc. Do you think that he has any chance of coming up against
	the deep state or do you think it's just a show? Thank you.
	Are you talking about Ron DeSantis?
	No, I don't care for him.
	I'm talking about Donald Trump.
	Trump, Trump, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Henry's not a big fan of Trump.
	I'm more so than he, but Henry, your thoughts, your thoughts, your further thoughts about Trump.
	Well, remember when, before the election of Trump, when Trump was still on The Apprentice, remember he had a big feud with Rosie McDonald?
	Rosie O'Donnell?
	Sure.
	I mean, it was, it's a charade.
	The whole thing's a charade.
	I mean, that's the way Freemasons work.
	They're the right, they're the left.
	I mean, you control the opposition that way.
	I mean, Trump, I mean, he was president and he couldn't ensure that there would be a legitimate election.
	And he was president and he appointed traitors to be vice president.
	a Secretary of Justice, Supreme Court justices.
	You couldn't depend on any of them.
	Well, because they're all Freemasons and they're all following the same agenda.
	There's an article on my site, if you can just search it, it's Donald Trump
	and the Masonic Jewish Tag Team.
	I mean, it's the communists on the left, the Zionists on the right.
	They control everything that way.
	They're not legitimate.
	Giuseppe, I know you have a lot of thoughts.
	Go for it.
	Well, first thought to reply to Scaredy Cat, another name to pay attention to, and I'd like to get Henry's thoughts on this fellow, is Larry Fink and this parasitic entity known as BlackRock.
	I mean, they own at least 5% of every major corporation now, and they're dictating all this.
	I mean, this guy came out of nowhere, essentially.
	What's your thoughts on Larry Fink, Henry?
	Well, you know, obviously Black Rock is their instrument.
	I read, there's a book out about banks' control of corporations.
	It came out about 50 years ago, but the author made the point that you only need to own three to five percent of a company's stock in order to control a company.
	And what you just described, BlackRock owning five percent, that's why every frigging company is promoting diversity and every company is Giving diversity training and critical race training to their employees.
	I mean, it's absurd.
	You know, like, why?
	I mean, companies that are in the business of producing, you know, producing, I don't know, marshmallows.
	What do they care?
	Uh, about these political issues, but now every single company is taking a political stand and acting like they don't want customers who don't share their political view.
	It's absurd, but it reflects it reflects what's happening, which is essentially the communist view that you told the line.
	Or you're going to be excluded.
	And that's what we're facing.
	We're facing an extent of marginalization.
	You see it in the vaccination passport, where they're going to try to make life as miserable as possible to anybody who doesn't accept the communist narrative.
	That, you know, it's communism.
	And it's kind of interesting the way Russia and the United States have changed places.
	Just like where now Russia is more of a beacon of freedom.
	Almost any country in the world has more freedom of speech and a freer press than the United States, which used to be the champion of the free world.
	But these bankers, they're very dexterous.
	And they managed to flip the United States and Russia.
	It's amazing.
	Yeah, it's absurd.
	Absolutely.
	Our caller from Connecticut may have another question.
	Please continue.
	Well, I'll just be blunt, if everyone here is okay with that.
	I have my own show on Mondays here, and I'm blunt.
	So I'd like to know, I'm seeing people that I know who've gotten the jab, and they're sick, and they're dying.
	One man I knew dropped dead at age 40 in the bathroom a few weeks after he'd gotten shot.
	I saw something in the CBS that was for me.
	About 30 years old on the floor having seizures like minutes after he had gotten shot.
	What I'd like to know is what the heck are we going to do if this continues to happen on such a stellar level?
	I don't want to use the word stellar, but a huge level.
	How are we going to stop it?
	People just have got mind control and they think everything's okay.
	But after a while, anybody in their right mind is gonna be able to see it and make the connection.
	Do you guys see any change coming with that?
	Or do you see it as just going a bit more fascism?
	Well, this is such a telling question.
	I just received message, Henry Ford Health System mandates all 33,000 employees get jabbed or get gone.
	I mean, that's horrible.
	You're asking these employees to do themselves bodily harm, potentially even bring about their own deaths or they're going to lose their employment.
	This is as bad as it gets.
	Henry, your thoughts?
	Well, I think thousands of people, millions of people are either going to clue into what's really happening or they're not.
	And I think that will happen when hundreds of thousands or millions of people start dropping dead, especially members of their own family.
	And I think at that point, there may or may not be violent resistance.
	That's where I see this going.
	I don't see any other option right now.
	Well, when you have an administration that's promoting this fake pandemic and encouraging everyone to get a vaccination that's going to do them serious harm, it's an outrageous situation.
	Totally un-American, undemocratic, violation of the Nuremberg Code, which requires anyone subjected to an experimental procedure must be fully informed and obtain their consent, which entails Informing them of all the risks, all the potential harms, as well as the benefits, and the alternative methods, which include HCQ and Ivermectin, which the public has been not allowed to learn about.
	Henry, it's just disgusting beyond words.
	Yeah, there's no point, you know, appealing to human rights, because they decide who has human rights and who doesn't.
	And obviously, Obviously, the only people who have human rights are the people that obey their dictates.
	I mean, that's the whole point of Satanism is to reverse good and evil.
	And to actually create a kind of insanity.
	That's what Satanism is.
	It's the religion of death and destruction.
	I have an article on my site called Satanism Explained.
	And it's essentially just to undo the natural and moral order.
	And the whole reason is, the whole reason is that they want to rule.
	They want to control, they want to own everything, they want to control everything.
	I have another article on my site called, What is Communism?, in which a Illuminati defector says the only thing they don't have is absolute control, and that's what they want.
	He wrote that, he revealed that in 1937.
	That's what this is all about.
	I think you got it right, Giuseppe, I think you would echo that sentiment.
	Oh, without a doubt, and the bizarre nature of the...
	Vaccination industry, it's not science, it's a bizarre type of arrogant, hubristic religion where you believe much the way Satanists think that they can create more than the divine.
	No one needs an injection of any kind.
	There's never been a vaccine that's safe, never been a vaccine that's effective,
	never been one that is equal to proper nutrition, proper sanitation.
	And if someone's sick, you quarantine them.
	You don't quarantine the healthy.
	If someone's at risk, you quarantine them.
	You don't quarantine the healthy.
	I mean, that's all it would take, but the Satanists do not want that.
	And the level of insanity like Jim just described, you have to at some point stop being a slave.
	And if your employer says, you have to take this deadly injection
	or you don't have a job, well then quit your job.
	And show some testicles and find another job.
	In the short term, you may struggle, but at least you'll be alive to have a future.
	Anyone who takes this injection, if they survive it, they're still under the sway of this bizarre transhuman nanotech experiment.
	So, it is just absurd to me that anyone would take this injection.
	It's a hell of a situation we're in.
	Myrrh, if you're still there, Myrrh, you're welcome to ask Henry another question.
	Well, I just wanted to add, to just show back up about how this is Satanism, you know, goes beyond our lifespans and many, many generations, that I guess it was a Greek god or even before the Greek gods, that Clitoris was a male god, And Sidnitz was a female god, where we get... Okay, so that just shows how long we've been on this project.
	And sometimes I like to talk with Gary Katz a little bit when we're on here about the Vedic caste system and how it's been perverted by usury.
	That's sort of it in a nutshell, but thank you so much, Henry, for coming on.
	Good to talk to you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Murray.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	And Scaredy is still here.
	Scaredy, join the conversation.
	Hi, Jim.
	So, I appreciate the point about Satan winning and the world is starting to be more dominated by Satanism.
	However, I myself don't I would like to speak that way, because I believe all people, and this is a basic Muslim philosophy, and I think Christians might think people in two categories, but at least I know myself, Muslim philosophy is to treat all human beings as a single family.
	And when we talk about, oh, Satan did this, Then it removes the blame from actual people who are engaging in monstrous wickedness.
	And, for example, the Denver Zoo yesterday just announced that the large mammals, especially carnivores, are also going to be getting the lethal injection.
	This is a company called Zoetis.
	Z as in Zephyr, O-E-T as in terrific, I-S as in funny, delicious.
	And I think this chemical poison manufactured in factories, by it seems Henry, maybe by Jews, The big money, Pfizer is owned, I think, I call them CEO's Chief Cruelty Officers, or Cruelty Enjoyment Officers, CEO or Chief Executive Officer, is Albert Bourla, a Jew, and I think the other corporations, Moderna, et cetera, also have a high Jew leadership.
	Not only are they spreading it, this chemical poison manufactured by the factories, which are run by these people, into as many people, but now they are attacking innocent.
	Our children were also innocent.
	And you can call the people who took it, people call them sheeple.
	I don't like to do that.
	It's just they've been duped.
	So in a sense, they are living in innocence because This Jew media is 24-7, it's torture, every minute of every
	day, promoting this.
	And it's like, there used to be a torture called, I think the Chinese water drip torture,
	where drip drips a drop, drops on the unfortunate man's forehead, endlessly.
	Even though it's just a little light drop of water, it becomes tortuous.
	People can't stand it and will do anything to make the dropping of water stop.
	So people, millions of people have taken that semi-lethal injection.
	Because they just think, okay, I won't have to keep disagreeing with the constant propaganda coming into my ears and the pressure that I'm not a good person, I'm not a good person.
	I'm only a good person if I take the lethal injection.
	So not only those people, millions, millions, millions of people right now have taken it, We're significantly more than a tenth of all humanity.
	And children are more innocent than those people who at least can listen to the news.
	And even a hundred times more innocent are the mute animals.
	They cannot talk, and we're doing it to them.
	And this is just spreading this poison, I think, so that this is simply another way For us who haven't taken it, are doing our best, almost killing ourselves, trying to keep ourselves clean, so that every environment we go to is just yet another sneaky wave.
	Not only are beautiful and endangered animals like tigers going to die out, hopefully not, God forbid, God forbid it doesn't happen.
	But they're going to be, you know, have this poison in them.
	So that when we, even when we go visit an innocent, beautiful tiger, we have to breathe in and get close to this poison.
	It's another sneaky method to spread this harm to people who are mightily trying to fight against it.
	Scary.
	Scary, scary, scary, scary.
	You've made your point beautifully.
	The idea of vaccinating animals is scary.
	I mean, I'm stunned.
	Henry, your thoughts about this new development?
	One second. I am.
	First of all, I want to congratulate you for having such a clear, for giving us such a clear picture of what you call the Chinese water torture.
	It's, you know, there is a great desire.
	People have a natural desire to belong and to conform, and it's very hard for them to resist this kind of pressure, especially when their job depends on it and getting into Football games in restaurants depends on it, and the approval of their families depend on it.
	It's very hard to resist.
	You portrayed this torture extremely well.
	What can I say?
	That's our predicament.
	Giuseppe, pick up the cudgels, my friend.
	I think that excellent point of pointing out what an incompetent, deviant Albert Perla is.
	I mean, he's a veterinarian and he's a genetic dabbler.
	He has no idea what he's doing.
	He's the classic know-it-all, know-nothing.
	It's interesting, most people don't understand that Pfizer attempted to use the same inoculation
	scam on animals about 10 years ago and it was banned in Britain because all of a sudden
	all the cattle were beginning to bleed from their nose and die off and so now this is
	what's being done to the human cattle.
	I mean, this guy should be shot in the head.
	I mean, his crimes against humanity, our legion, and all of these malevolent quaccination companies, they need to be held accountable for the millions they have murdered and will continue to murder.
	Well, why are Americans so passive?
	I mean, you mentioned that he needs to be shot in the head.
	There are a lot of other people who deserve the same fate, yet you never hear of any assassination attempts.
	Have you heard of any?
	No, it's stunning.
	I think that Americans are passive because of the millennia-old strategy of Panem-Edgar Kansas.
	They're well-fed, well-entertained, and they're enslaved to their occupation.
	They live check-to-check.
	So that's like the classic three strikes you're out, those three elements, and you have a nation of chubby cowards.
	Well, you know, I mean, this whole scamdemic has been partnered with a huge giveaway of money.
	I mean, people are being paid to stay at home.
	A lot of people are earning more money not working than they did working, right?
	The stock market has been going up every single day ever since it crashed,
	right?
	In March 2020.
	Which makes some sense.
	Yeah.
	So basically, they've bought our freedom.
	They've bought our human rights.
	They basically pacified everyone by throwing money at them.
	And the money, of course, is money they could eventually reclaim.
	They could say, now you have to pay off your share of the national debt.
	And that's what they mean when they say, we'll forgive your debts.
	Well, what if you don't have any debts?
	Well, you have a share of the national debt.
	And so you'll own nothing, and you'll give us everything you own.
	In order to pay off your share of the national debt.
	Yeah.
	And so it's amazing.
	Henry, it's been amazing having you here.
	I want everyone to know your website, henrymacco.com, Exposing Feminism and the New World Order.
	It's been a great honor to have you as our guest here on the event, Henry, and we can't tell you how much we admire you and appreciate what you have done over these many decades to advance truth and justice in the world.
	We thank you for that.
	Well, thank you very much, and the same back to both of you.
	I regard you as soulmates.
	fantastic okay that's it Jim
	Very good, very good, Miss Hepney.
	Very good, very good, my friend.
	I'll be seeing you and will Scorb he'll be joining us or no?
	He went to the dentist that's why he dropped out.
	Okay, but he'll be here for the show later?
	I would think so yeah.

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