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Nov. 11, 2021 - Jimmy Dore Show
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I want to let you know on November 11th, we're in Tempe, Arizona, and then Thanksgiving weekend in Portland, Oregon.
Go to JimmyDoorComedy.com for a link for all those tickets.
Hey, this is Jimmy.
Who's this?
Jimmy, this is Er Pacino.
Oh, my God.
Hi, Mr. Pacito.
Thanks for calling.
What's on your mind, buddy?
Politics, as usual.
Like I said before, I've made it my goal to finally understand politics after a lifetime of ignoring that shit.
I've decided that it is important.
So I have all these different sources that I go to to learn.
Ahhhh.
Ahhhh.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
I see.
And you are one of them.
Oh, thank you, Al.
Mr. Pacito.
Yeah, I need one yellow guy.
Only one, though.
You know, you listen to too many yellow guys, and everything gets all fuzzy and topsy-durvy, and I gotta sit the fuck down for a while.
So you're my guy.
Well, I'm passionate about what I do, and I make no apologies, Al.
That's the spirit.
But I have other sources, too.
You have other sources for news information, such as The View.
Al, I'm not really sure if that's a good source.
These broads really break down the politics into digestible morsels.
But sometimes, Jimmy, I get confused.
You get confused by the view?
Yes.
For example, the other day they had Adam Schiff as a guest, who I loved on Law and Order.
I didn't even know he was a real guy.
Al, that's different.
Never mind.
Al, never mind.
So anyway, they had that guy on, and this one view lady started laying into him about something called the Steel dossier.
Jimmy, have you heard of the Steel dossier?
Yes, of course I have heard of the Steel dossier.
Yes, yes.
Well, apparently it's not real.
No, it's completely phony, as is the entire claim that Russia rigged the 2016 election.
What?
Whoa.
You're not going to believe this, but I was led to believe that Russia stole the election for Trump.
I know you were led to believe that, Al.
Many Americans were led to believe that.
The entire Democratic Party doubled down on that narrative, and now it looks like their chickens are coming home to roost.
You mean they lied to us?
They just lied?
They lied.
No way, they just lied.
Ha ha ha ha!
Ha ha ha!
Yes, Al.
Well, why the fuck would they do that?
Because all the Democrats would rather not face up to the fact that in 2016, they ran a deeply flawed, unpopular candidate who failed to campaign in crucial states.
It is much easier for them, apparently, to connect some bonkers theory that Putin somehow stole our election.
But, but, but, call me.
Yes, yes, Comey.
I know, Comey.
Yes.
I trusted him.
He's so tall.
Yes, he's tall, and he cuts a dignified figure on television, but that doesn't mean that Russia gate wasn't a massive hoax.
Whoa, did you just drop the H-word?
That's a strong accusation.
Yes, I stand by it.
Are you sure?
That just seems crazy that our elected officials would lie to us like this.
I don't know what to think anymore.
I don't like this.
I don't like this at all.
Not one bit.
I don't know what you're going through, Al.
I mean, hang on.
I know what you're going through, Al.
Really?
Really, delving into the news on a deep level truly just shows us that we are all being lied to all the time by our public officials.
It's not pleasant, but it's an important awakening that every citizen has to experience.
Look, I just wanted to learn more about politics.
I'd have my fucking eyes opened.
I'm too old for this shit.
I realize it's important, but mainly this is all because I got HBO Max recently.
And I wanted to get all the jokes on feet.
I'd have some big fucking realization that will be in play like a fucking fiddle over here.
Well, that's just what happens when you look at claims through a critical lens.
I don't want to look at shit anymore.
I can't have my worldview rattled like this.
What else are they lying about?
Chinese UFOs?
COVID, Democrats and the good guys who are about the working class?
Who else is lying to me that I trusted?
Brian Williams?
Okay.
I get it, Al.
I get it.
I get it.
Wait, what about you?
What if I can't trust you anymore?
How do I know you're not lying to Al?
Because, Al, I don't demand that you trust me.
My listeners are always free to look into whatever I say, which is always backed up with evidence and reporting.
Oh, so the ball's in my court then.
Fuck that.
No one said it would be easy, Al.
Yeah, you can say that again.
You can say that again.
Well, I have a mic right now.
I've forgotten to eat for the past three days, and my trust in humanity is gone.
As always, it's been a pleasure talking to you, Jimmy.
Likewise, Al.
I'll call you again later when I get all this sorted out.
I'm going to get to the bottom of all this shit after I take a nap.
Al.
Al Pacino.
Thank you, Al.
Now, I don't know what Joe Biden's trying to pull when he tweets out something like this, but I think it has the opposite effect.
So he tweets out, health care should be a right, not a privilege.
okay that's the guy who promised to veto Medicare for all that's the guy who won't even give you a public option that's the guy and now he comes tweeting out healthcare should be a right not a privilege that's like Chris Christie tweeting out buffet should be single serve it's an insult to my intelligence and with And I don't have much.
That's how much of an insult it is.
I don't have much intelligence.
And it's still, he found a little bit I have and he insulted it.
And with the beginning of the open enrollment period today, we can continue delivering on that promise.
Signing up is easy.
Simply go to healthcare.gov.
Then select the plan that works for best for you and your family.
Signing up is easy.
Simply get all the cash you have, go to healthcare.gov and give it to them.
Start borrow money, sell shit if you have to.
How about the plan that works best for you and your family?
You know, the one that doesn't complete, you put you in the red each month.
Can you find one like that?
Healthcare is a right in every other industrialized nation, but not ours.
So go buy yours.
Go buy yours.
He can give us Medicare for all right now.
Right now, Joe Biden.
Right now.
Joe Biden could take out his pen and sign an executive order that declares an emergency, which they've already declared we're in.
We're in a pandemic emergency, which is why they can mandate shit and shut down your business and make you wear masks.
They've already declared we're in an emergency.
And so the Constitution gives Joe Biden the power during an emergency to give health care to everybody in the country.
Just expand Medicare.
We already have Medicare.
You just expand it to include everybody.
And now we don't have to pay $20,000 a person to Blue Cross.
We pay $5,000 or $6,000 in taxes and we get health care.
That's how it's supposed to work.
And you're never denied.
And you don't have to sit on the phone with your insurance provider.
None of that.
That's how it's supposed to work.
So when he tweets that out, he's just sticking his thumb in your fucking eye.
Look at how stupid they are.
They'll still vote for me.
I'm to the right of Trump on a lot of shit.
And they voted for me.
Interesting.
What other rights require me to pay massive sums of money to corporations in order to use this right?
Very well said.
Well, glad you asked.
Welcome to the world of student loans.
Next up, housing.
Do you have a right to education, a right to housing?
You're going to have to pay a corporation.
Holy effing shit.
For a second, I thought he had made the public option happen and somehow sprung it on us with no warning.
But nope, your right is still limited to healthcare of the private for-profit variety.
He thought it was actually something instead of a platitude.
That's what he says.
That's what he's saying.
Yeah, that's all the Democrats have for you is platitudes and corporate dicks in your ass.
That's all they have for you.
As George Carlin would say, a red, white, and blue corporate dick in your ass.
For only 300, so someone went to that to get some health care for themselves for only $300 a month in premiums and an $8,000 deductible.
You too can have access to the fundamental human right.
So that's three times 12 is what?
36.
So that's $3,600 in premiums for this one person plus an $8,000.
So that's aimed to, so that's like $12,000, $13,000 right there before she starts paying co-pays and for her pharmaceuticals and all the other shit that the, so that's minimum.
What is that?
A minimum $12,000, $13,000 a year.
Minimum.
Plus she pays taxes.
More than half of America can't afford a $400 emergency, and yet they call an $8,000 deductible access to, they call that access to healthcare.
Yes, it's freedom.
Talk to a debt collector.
That's freedom.
You have the right to go into, you have the right to go into medical debt.
You have the right to go into bankruptcy.
You have the right to go into debt because of a scam healthcare system.
That's your right.
That's completely false.
The methodology on that was a survey, which is not scientific.
Most probably could get way could.
So this person is saying what this person is saying is bullshit.
This person says that's completely false.
The methodology on that was a survey, which is not scientific.
Most probably could get together the money.
Most could probably come up with $13,000 a year like that.
What?
You know, most wage earners earn $30,000.
50% of wage earners in America earn $30,000 or less.
I like that.
Shut the F up, liberal.
That's very nice.
That's nicely done.
Come on Twitter.
Cubs on Twitter to defend $8,000 deductibles.
Yale study says Medicare for All would save $450 billion a year and prevent nearly 70,000 deaths a year.
Joe Biden says he would veto a Medicare for All bill as president.
87% of Democrats support Medicare for all, though Joe Biden doesn't.
You think you have representation?
You think you're represented?
Did you know that Joe Biden is the single largest all-time recipient of contributions from the pharmaceutical and health product industry, receiving $8,550,422?
Barack Obama is second with $5,565,877.
And now you know why you don't have health care.
And now you know why you're getting a mandate to get a jab instead of a mandate to get health care.
Why can't they mandate you get health care if you get sick?
That's what I would like.
How about if I actually do get sick with COVID?
You mandate that I get care.
How about if I get sick from the vaccine, you mandate that I get care because workers can't afford to take a week off work when they get sick from the second jab, which is what happened to me.
And I got sick until now.
I never got better.
What if I had a job?
What if I was a bricklayer like I used to be and I had to go to work?
I couldn't go to work.
I couldn't go to work.
And where's my compensation for that?
Where's my health care?
All you did was give me a fucking vaccine that injured me, but you won't give me health care after I get injured.
Something tells me you guys don't give a shit about my health.
Something tells me you're captured by big pharma.
Something tells me that every other lefty is too big of a pussy to ever talk about this.
Go show me the lefty video that's critiquing the COVID response from the Biden administration.
They're all a bunch of nutless wonders.
Every one of them.
Fucking pussies.
Nick, let me bring you in.
What do you have to say about Joe Biden saying that healthcare is a right and then telling you to go give money to a private corporation for that right?
See, these people, they always want to, they use left language because they know it's popular.
They know most people support healthcare for all.
And this is the neoliberal hypocrisy that gets me, right?
Because if you talk to them, you will get them to admit that we should treat COVID.
They're like, oh, if you get COVID-19, it's not your fault.
So we should at least provide healthcare for people who get COVID-19.
This is at least what they say.
But why doesn't that thought process apply to cancer treatments?
So if someone gets cancer, they should go bankrupt.
You know, there's a woman who she had to pay like $600 because she was waiting in the waiting room for seven hours.
She didn't even get treatment.
She had to pay $700.
But we got a guy who would veto Medicare for all, pretending he supports healthcare as a human right.
You have other, you got people that say that other countries, they have state TV, right?
You just show how Joe Biden broke the record for Wall Street funding, and now he's doing the bidding of Wall Street, the same Wall Street and Big Pharma that donates and get a lot of money to corporate media.
So how is that not state TV?
When they continue to feed lies, when they say that Democrats believe in healthcare and human rights, that's a lie.
They don't.
They're doing the bidding of Big Pharma.
That is who Joe Biden is.
Well said, 100%.
You're 100% right.
You would think there'd be somebody at the White House that would say, no, that's a little too ridiculous for him to tweet that out.
He's not even giving people the public option, which is what Barack Obama ran on 12 fucking years ago.
Barack Obama said he would not sign a health care bill if it didn't have a public option.
That's a promise.
And then what did he do?
He signed a healthcare bill that didn't have a public option.
Barack Obama's entire cabinet came from an email from Citigroup.
And you think that Barack Obama gives a shit about you?
You think that you're represented?
Princeton has already proven that we don't live in a democracy.
Your democracy was stolen from you long ago.
Trump didn't do that.
You know who did that?
The military industrial complex, Wall Street, Big Pharma, and the fossil fuel industry.
They're the ones who stole your democracy.
You now live in an oligarchy.
It doesn't matter what you want.
It will never get reflected in legislation.
80% of the country wants Medicare for all.
You're not getting it.
So I would wish there was a real revolution.
I wish people would actually make politicians scared.
And what we need is the left to do an uprising, a nonviolent uprising that scares the shit out of them.
That's what, you know, make them scared.
Like when Nixon was scared that they were going to break through the gates, it's not a bad place to have your elected representatives be.
But they want to make sure that you don't ever think about doing that, which is why they won't stop talking about January 6th.
Yes.
Which was, you know, aided and abetted by the FBI, the intelligence community, and cops.
The cops literally let them in.
Literally let them in, taking selfies with them.
Go ahead.
They use January 6th as an excuse to fund the police more.
That's why I don't have any tolerance.
There are a lot of people that consider themselves on the left that still put January 6th hysteria, even though they funded the Kai Pool Police More, gave them surveillance powers, and then they used those powers to arrest Indigenous activists on Indigenous People's Day.
That way they did the money that you guys voted for.
Yep.
Congratulations.
Congratulations to all the people who ran interference for the squad.
Ryan Grimm, Jenk Uger.
Again, so I want to start off by letting you know, no matter what you hear people say, the Jimmy Doer show is not anti-vax.
We're for the correct rollout of the vaccines, which means you vaccinate the people who are vulnerable, elderly people, people with comorbidities, people who are frontline workers, stuff like that.
But you certainly don't, you certainly don't vaccinate kids.
And if you're afraid of getting the vaccine, I mean, if you're afraid of COVID, you should get back.
You should get it.
Okay.
COVID-19 research blows the whistle on data integrity issues in Pfizer's vaccine trial.
Well, you almost all, you knew this was coming, right?
Because the big pharma are the biggest liars, scammers, criminals in the country.
And so you knew they were doing, had to do some shady stuff around these vaccines.
And of course they did.
A regional director who was employed, this is by the British Medical Journal, a regional director who was employed at the regional organization Ventavia Research Group has told the BMJ that the company falsified data,
unblinded patients, meaning in a double-blind study, they were able to know what they were getting, employed inadequately trained vaccinators, and was slow to follow up on adverse events reported in Pfizer's pivotal phase three trial.
Slow to follow up on adverse events.
So that's another thing people don't want you to talk about.
When I got injured by the jab, I told people on Twitter and people called me a liar.
People called me a grifter.
People called me all that.
It's just, that's not how science works.
You're supposed to have people tell you their adverse reactions so you can make the vaccine safer.
If you want people to shut up about their adverse reactions to the vaccine, you know what that makes you?
That makes you part of a cover-up because that's what that is.
After repeatedly notifying Ventavia of these problems, the regional director, Brooke Jackson, emailed a complaint to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, the FDA.
Ventavia fired her that same day.
Now you still think Jimmy Dore is lying to you?
You still think Jimmy Doer is the problem here?
If you were going to make a video today about COVID, would it be about Jimmy Dore?
Or would it be about this?
Or would it be about Fauci?
Or would it be about that we now know everyone's going to get it?
Would it be about any of that?
Or would it be about me?
Because you're jealous and you're riding my dick for clicks.
Ventavia fired her later that same day.
I wonder which YouTube lefty shows are going to cover this and which ones aren't.
In autumn 2020, Pfizer's chairman and chief executive, Albert Brulla, released an open letter to the billions of people around the world who were investing their hopes in a safe and effective COVID-19 vaccine to end, to end the pandemic.
As I've said before, we are operating at the speed of science, Borla wrote, explaining to the public when they could expect a Pfizer vaccine to be authorized in the United States.
Okay, vaccines are never going to end this pandemic.
That's a scientific fact that no one wants to realize.
But that's what we're saying at this show, and that's what makes people call us anti-vax, and that's why they're wrong.
But for researchers who were testing Pfizer's vaccine at several sites in Texas during the autumn, speed may have come at a cost of data integrity and patient safety.
Staff who conducted quality control checks were overwhelmed by the volume of problems they were finding.
I'll read it again.
Staff who conducted quality control checks were overwhelmed.
Not that they found a big number.
They were overwhelmed by the volume of problems they were finding.
Wow.
Jackson has told the BMJ that during the two weeks she was employed at Ventavia in September 2020.
She repeatedly informed her superiors of poor laboratory management, patient safety concerns, and data integrity issues.
Jackson was trained, clinic was a trained clinical trial auditor who previously held a director of operations position and came to Ventavia with more than 15 years experience in clinical research coordination and management.
Ventavia was not keeping up with the data entry queries, shows an email sent by ICON, the contract research organization with which Pfizer partnered on the trial.
ICON reminded Ventavia in a September 2020 email, the expectation for the study is that all queries are addressed within 24 hours.
ICON then highlighted over 100 outstanding queries older than three days old in yellow.
Examples included two individuals for which subjects have reported with severe symptoms reactions.
Per protocol, subjects experiencing grade three local reactions should be contacted.
Please confirm if an unplanned contact was made and update the corresponding form as appropriate.
That's one of the problems.
Look at that.
Documents show that problems had been going on for weeks.
In a list of action items circulated among Ventavia leaders in the early August 2020.
Shortly after the trial began and before Jackson's hiring, a Ventavia executive identified three site staff members with whom to, quote, go over e-diary issue falsifying data, etc., end quote.
One of them was verbally counseled for changing data and not noting late entry.
What?
The F September 25th, 2020, Jackson called the FDA to warn about unsound practices in Pfizer's clinical trial at Ventavia.
She then reported her concerns in an email to the agency.
In the afternoon, Ventavia fired Jackson.
Deemed not a good fit, according to her separation letter.
Wow.
Jackson told the BMJ it was the first time she had been fired in her 20-year career in research.
Now, who's the bad guy in COVID?
Is it Jimmy Doerr or is it Pfizer?
Or is it Ventavia?
In her 25 September email to the FDA, Jackson wrote that Ventavia had enrolled more than 1,000 participants in three sites.
The full trial enrolled around 44,000 participants across 153 sites that included numerous commercial companies and academic centers.
She then listed a dozen concerns that she had witnessed at these sites.
So by the way, there was 153 sites, meaning where you could go get the vaccine.
Do you want to remember how many they inspected?
Wait till you hold on to your hat.
So here's what she noticed.
Participants placed in a hallway after injection and not being monitored by clinical staff.
Lack of timely follow-up of patients who experienced adverse events.
Protocol deviations not being reported.
Vaccines not being stored at proper temperatures.
Mislabeled laboratory specimens and targeting of Ventavia staff for reporting these types of problems.
A few days later, Jackson received a call from an FDA inspector to discuss her report, but was told that no further information could be provided.
She heard nothing further in relation to her report.
In August of this year, after full approval of Pfizer's vaccine, the FDA published a summary of its inspections of the company's pivotal trial.
Nine of the trial's 153 sites were inspected.
Only nine sites of the 153 vaccine trial sites were even inspected, only nine of them.
Ventavia's sites were not listed among them.
So the Ventavia company, none of their vaccine trial sites were even inspected, even though you have this whistleblower saying it's all messed up.
We're overwhelmed by all the mess-ups.
Nobody inspected their sites.
And no inspection of the sites where adults were recruited took place in the eight months after December 2020 emergency authorization.
Two former Ventavia employees spoke to the BMJ anonymously for fear of reprisal and loss of job prospects in the tightly knit research community.
Both confirmed broad aspects of Jackson's complaint.
One said that she had worked on over four dozen clinical trials in her career, including many large trials, but had never experienced such a helter-skelter work environment as with Ventavia on Pfizer's trial.
I don't think it was a good clean data, the employee said of the data Ventavia generated for Pfizer trial.
It's a crazy mess.
Since Jackson reported problems with Ventavia to the FDA in September 2020, Pfizer has hired Ventavia as a research subcontractor on four other vaccine clinical trials.
The COVID-19 vaccine in children and young adults, pregnant women and a booster dose, as well as an RSV vaccine trial.
So they're working on all those.
Pfizer hires them, a research subcontractor, so they could have deniability.
When Ventavia goes and fucks it all up and rushes it all through and overlooks all the problems.
Pfizer goes, well, it's them, isn't it?
Guess what?
There it is.
The FDA authorizes Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine for emergency use in children 5 through 11 years of age.
Now, that's ridiculous.
It's not an emergency.
Why?
Because as we know, children face a very, very, very low risk of serious illness from COVID.
Children's, there it is.
COVID in age.
An unvaccinated child.
Unvaccinated child is less at risk of serious COVID illness than a vaccinated 70-year-old.
That's in the New York frickin'A Times.
Here, also in the New York Times.
For children without a serious medical condition, the danger of severe COVID is so low as to be difficult to quantify.
The risk of long COVID among children, a source of fear among many parents, is also very low.
I have long COVID.
So here's the FDA meeting where they're talking about side effects of the jab, the vaccine to kids.
Listen to this.
But we're never going to learn about how safe the vaccine is unless we start giving it.
You know, that's just the way it goes.
That's a voting member on the FDA who voted in favor of emergency authorization for children to get a vaccine that he doesn't know what the side effects are going to be.
Children who have less risk of death from COVID than they do from the influenza.
So, let's play the longer version.
And I think what sways me here is that it's a very sort of personal choice.
If I had a child who was a transplant recipient, I would really want to be able to use a vaccine like this.
That's what they say because when you're getting a transplant, your immunosystem is super low.
So that's what they say.
If you're getting a transplant, you should get.
I agree.
If you're a kid, you're getting a transplant.
Or if you have cancer, you should probably get it.
But other than that.
The question of how broadly you use it, though, I think is a substantial one.
And I know it's not our question.
And I know we're kind of punting that to ACIP.
But I do think that it's a relatively close call.
And as Dr. Levy just said, as Dr. Gantz said, it really is going to be a question of what the prevailing conditions are.
But we're never going to learn about how safe the vaccine is unless we start giving it.
That's just the way it goes.
That's how we found out about rare complications of other vaccines like the rotavirus vaccine.
And I do think that we are.
There you go.
So there you go.
That's the whistleblower.
And that same company is working on the child vaccines.
And nobody's going to go to prison.
We're falsifying data for doing it wrong.
And I'm sure people knew about that.
Well, they did.
And then they fired the person who told them.
So there you go.
Brings me.
I hope this reminds people.
To be skeptical and critical of whatever you hear from the establishment about COVID and vaccines.
You should be skeptical and critical.
But not anti-science.
We are not.
I am critical and skeptical of everything I heard from the government.
Okay.
And again, I have to say it every freaking video because people are misquoting me.
We are not anti-vax.
We are telling you if you are vulnerable, you're elderly, you have comorbidities, you're a frontline worker, you should get vaccinated.
If you're afraid of COVID, you should get vaccinated because it will protect you from serious illness or hospitalization.
But it will protect no one else.
You are still going to give it to people.
And you're still going to get it if you're vaccinated.
And if the virus is not going away, it's going to be here forever.
And you're all going to get it at some point.
So stop demonizing the unvaccinated or your neighbor or a worker.
And keep your eye on Fauci and the establishment and Joe Biden who won't give you health care in the middle of a pandemic.
That would have saved 200,000 lives.
So this happened today online, which I found fun and funny.
So just so you know, I have to set up the story.
This is from the New York Times.
For children without a serious medical condition, the danger of severe COVID is so low as to be difficult to quantify.
The risk of long COVID among children, a source of fear of many parents, is also very low.
So low you can't even quantify it.
How low is it?
Well, schools are major transmission points for influenza, but not COVID.
While children do get infected, their risk of COVID death is minuscule.
Lower than their already low risk of dying from the flu.
That's how low it is.
Want to hear it again?
Now, that was from Newsweek.
intelligence according to the cdc among children the mortality risk from covet 19 exactly lower than from the flu so we all know this now and by the way throughout 2020 sweden kept their daycare and schools open 1.8 million children ranging 1 to 15 they didn't use masks there was no testing there no social distancing the result zero covet deaths among children and a covet risk to teachers lower than the average of other professions that's from newsweek um so today i go on twitter and this guy ryan cooper who
mistake i thought that was the guy who fake fact checked me from cnn and so i i was eager but i follow him but it's not this is a different guy who i think i like from uh he writes for the week or something or this week or what but anyway i think i like this guy that's why i follow him and that's why i saw this so there's a lot of there's about a vaccine hesitancy people don't want to get their kids vaccinated in fact two-thirds two-thirds of adults uh with kids don't want to are hesitant to get their kids vaccinated.
now there's this onslaught uh which i'm going to guess a lot of it is uh all funded by the big pharma to get people to get to jab their kids and the science isn't there so this guy ryan cooper tweeted out this article from sciencebasemedicine.org so it sounds super duper fastball down the middle right i mean come on and the article is labeled covet 19 is deadlier than the flu for children what that and i got scared because i'm
like wait a minute i've been reporting the opposite and so i clicked on it i and then he it says as covet 19 is much more contagious in total it harms for its total harms for children exceed that of the flu.
A very simple point that often excludes those who compare these diseases.
So I got scared.
I clicked on it.
And what I found, one of the quotes from the article is, it may be true that children younger than five years have a slightly lower risk of dying if they catch COVID-19 than if they catch the flu.
That's from the article, LOL.
Now, that's funny.
That's just fucking straight up funny.
That's just plain funny.
Right?
That's just funny.
From the article, it tells you that.
Now, so what did that guy come back with?
He comes back with, he tweets out a smear video that someone did about me calling me an anti-vaxxer.
That's their flex.
That's exact.
That's all they got.
That's what he does.
Oh, I got that.
Okay.
All right.
Did you get whiplash from doing that?
So this guy says approximately a thousand children die of drowning a year.
500 children die of COVID according to this article.
So no swimming or bathing mandate coming soon?
So Ryan says, hey, quick question, is drowning contagious?
No, but Jesus Christ.
But also, guess what?
Everybody's going to get COVID.
And it doesn't affect kids.
So why are you vaccinating them?
If it affects an old person, tell them to get vaccinated.
That's what we do.
And if you're afraid of COVID or catching it from a kid, get vaccinated.
But you're all going to get it anyway.
So where do you care if you get it from?
And it doesn't matter if it's contagious.
That's a bogus argument.
100% bogus.
Then he comes up with this.
He says, the entire argument is that even though the individual risk of death is less, it is so much more contagious that more children will get it and end up dying.
That means 900 kids dead from COVID thus far as compared to one from the flu in 2021.
Now, why can't you do that?
Because 2021, you have to keep it out of the equation.
It's dishonest.
You are even posted because people were in fucking lockdown last year.
Less kids got the flu.
Again, and this person tweeted out.
However, keep in mind it is rare for children to die from either virus.
CDC data shows COVID-19 and the flu combined make up less than 1% of all pediatric deaths since the start of the pandemic in March 2010.
And you can't keep fucking use 2021, you bucker.
Anyway, I love what this guy says.
He says, funny, I thought vaccinated people can spread it too because they can.
So one needs to ask why the protect, why the protected need protection from the unprotected.
Children do not need protection from this virus, as we've learned early on in the pandemic.
They're not as susceptible and survivability is 99.9% or higher.
So I just want to let everybody know it's nuts what they're pushing now.
And that guy's pushing some bullshit article that is garbage that is trying to make, it's like, oh, so you have, if you catch COVID, a child catches COVID, they have a bigger risk of dieting from the flu than COVID.
How can we twist it to still make people scared of it?
Well, if you take the numbers and put it in our fear algorithm and you churn it around with some Pfizer propaganda, it comes out you should be more afraid of COVID.
Really?
So if you're a five-year-old kid, let me ask you something.
Which one do you want to get?
COVID or the fucking flu?
You want to get COVID.
So I don't know what the hell is going on there, but I do know what's going on.
People are mindlessly repeating big pharma propaganda, and that's what this is.
You can't vaccinate your way out of this fucking pandemic.
Everyone's going to get the virus.
You're going to get it, no matter what.
So get ready.
Let me bring in Max Blumenthal.
Max, well, here's, by the way, here's the garbage art.
Can I just show this real quick?
Here's the garbage article.
Science-based medicine.
I guess if you said, just like fact-checked order, if you say we're a fact, just like PolitiFact.
We put fact in our name.
It's got to be real.
So this says COVID-19 is deadlier than the flu for children.
It's crazy.
Okay.
Max, let me bring you in.
What would you like to say about this kind of stuff?
Well, it's just interesting to see the progression of the narrative on the whole child vaccination hysteria.
Obviously, after various other age groups were getting vaccinated, children were going to be the next target.
And it's a huge profit center for big pharma.
But there was no real emergency there.
We saw an attempt in the mainstream media to manufacture an emergency where the New York Times exaggerated the fatality rate among children with COVID-19 by a factor of 10.
The Texas Tribune did something similar earlier in an article that was widely shared.
And now they're down to kind of nickel and diming flu versus COVID death.
Where we know that very few children with comorbidities die of COVID-19, like of COVID-19 related illness.
I mean, we just, it's just a fact.
So then you have to measure kind of the cost benefit of vaccinating, you know, getting a Pfizer jab, which does that.
It has three micrograms versus the normal 30 for adults.
But we know that the Pfizer vaccine requires boosting every six months or so.
And France and Israel are now requiring booster shots in order for people to continue participating in society.
So what does that mean for your kid?
That they have to kind of like run this vaccination gauntlet or be on this treadmill for the rest of their lives?
That hasn't been addressed.
And we also heard another narrative a few months ago about the reason to mass vaccinate children or to mandate vaccines for children.
And it was that children are developing long COVID and that we need to prevent long COVID.
I was immediately suspicious when I heard there was like a different kind of COVID than the normal one.
It kind of reminded me of Havana syndrome.
And now we know that long COVID in many ways is a lot like Havana syndrome from a new study published in the Journal of American Medicine Association, published on November 8th, which found in 28,000 self-reporting individuals who claimed that they had long COVID, the vast majority were suffering from something else, including depressive psychogenic symptoms.
In other words, they simply thought they had long COVID and were either were suffering psychological symptoms, not actual physical symptoms.
The Guardian, which is one of the main journals of biomedical extremism on COVID-19, even found in an examination of 14 international studies that long COVID symptoms in children rarely last longer than three months.
And for the most part, they don't even last that long.
So it's not very long.
It's terrible that anyone would have to suffer those symptoms for that long.
But they basically put the kibosh on the concept of long COVID in children, in addition to this French study published in the Journal of American Medical Journal of American Medical Association, where they found that the most common side effect or symptom that people were experiencing who were claiming long COVID was just loss of taste or smell and not the debilitating symptoms that we think of.
So this narrative that they keep pushing obviously coincides with a major desperate kind of Hail Mary pass of the Biden administration, which is to end the pandemic through mass vaccination.
And it doesn't look like that's going to be possible.
And then you have big pharma behind the scenes looking at the five to 12 year old group as a massive profit center that's going to be that's going to require boosting.
And then there's a final point that I made on another segment we did, Jimmy, when we were talking about vaccine passports.
And it's that in order to roll out vaccine passports, which are the basis for digital ID, mass digital ID, which will be like the wet dream of the surveillance state, as well as the financial sector, because it'll be linked to your digital wallet.
You have to get a significant slice of the population invested in it somehow.
So you have to, in Australia, they have declared the government in New South Wales, I think, and I think they're pushing this in Victoria too.
It may be a national agenda that they need to, once they get to a 90% vaccination uptake rate, they will begin to ban the unvaccinated from retail centers.
So they need to reduce the share of the population that will be turned into surplus humanity and basically discarded to like 10%.
That means that you can't leave children out.
So here you have an effort to bring children into a kind of permanent regime of vaccination and surveillance.
And it's not me saying this.
I'm not being conspiratorial or I'm not being a conspiracy theorist.
I'm addressing conspiracy facts that were laid out in 2018 by the Bill Gates-backed ID 2020 initiative, which if you're watching this now, just Google immunization, an entry point for digital identity, where I'm sure they wouldn't say this today,
the main initiative in the United States pushing digital identity, a national digital ID, and lobbying Congress for this, declared that child immunization efforts create, establish the entry point for digital ID through vaccination passports.
So we need to look down the road at what the agenda is here because from a public health standpoint, it just doesn't add up.
And it kind of upends what we already know about public health, which is that for respiratory viruses, it's often beneficial for the child to develop natural immunity when they stand next to no chance of death or hospitalization from such a virus.
Yes, yes.
And they can't.
It's now being possible.
I don't want to get too into the science.
I've already said all the science I know for sure.
But yes, they're saying that if the kids aren't allowed to catch it at a young age, if they're allowed to catch it at a young age, they'll build up natural immunity that will help them throughout their lifetime.
And it will help their immune system.
So I just want to go really quickly.
So here's this article.
And it says, it is natural for people to compare COVID-19 to other contagious diseases, namely influenza.
Journalists and politicians often compare the two diseases, particularly in children.
Many who make this comparison claim the impact of the two diseases is similar, and thus the reaction to COVID-19, at least for children, has been overwrought.
Even some doctors make this comparison.
Dr. Monica Gandhi, for example, tweeted this.
Look at what, so she tweeted this out.
She tweets out an article from The Lancet and says about what child should wear on a plane when they go and visit their vaccinated grandparents with vaccinated parents.
Just simple, mask.
Children much less at risk of severe disease.
11 deaths in California from COVID-19 and children, 16 from influenza two years ago.
So that's what she tweeted out, which is 100% accurate.
She tweeted out March 15th.
Yeah.
This is what they say in the article.
Currently, California reports 28 children have died of COVID-19.
I wonder if she will update her tweet.
What the fuck?
Do you see how dishonest that is and disingenuous?
And what a bullshit thing that is to say, as if that woman was somehow fucking not right or accurate at the time.
And if everybody has to go back and update tweets they did eight years ago when a fucking fact changed, it was accurate at the time in March when she tweeted it.
I'm sure if she tweeted today about it, she would use the updated numbers.
That is such a fucking garbage bullshit article.
This is so ridiculous.
And I don't care what kind of dot org you say you are.
You're based on medicine and science.
You're a propagandist.
And this proves it, trying to fucking shame that woman for giving out accurate information because it isn't accurate eight months fucking later.
What are you not?
No, you're not nuts.
You're a propagandist.
And Ryan Cooper got caught up in it.
There are two ways to compare the disease.
So that's what they're saying.
So they're saying, because more people are going to catch it.
But even in their article, it says it may be true that children younger than five years have a slightly lower risk of dying if they catch COVID-19 than if they catch the flu.
Well, then which one would you rather catch if you're a five-year-old kid?
Which one would you rather catch?
Okay, you guys are so easy.
However, COVID-19 is much more contagious and total harms and for the children exceed that of the flu.
That's what they say.
Really?
Because throughout 2020, Sweden kept daycare and schools open for all of its 1.8 million children, ages 1 to 15, with no mass testing or social distancing.
The result, zero COVID deaths among children and a COVID risk to teachers lower than the average of other professions.
That's from Newsweek.
And so guess what?
Even in this article, it says, acknowledging that COVID-19 is deadlier than the flu, which it isn't.
But even if you do, this article says that COVID-19 is deadlier for the flu than children does not mean that policy recommendations automatically follow.
So the guy who was tweeting this out, Ryan Cooper, was saying you should get vaxed because of this article.
This article says you shouldn't do anything because of this article.
But he was pushing vaccines because he's caught up in propaganda.
Establishment journalists are prop a fucking gandist and they don't even know it.
They don't even, I don't even know if they've read manufacturing consent.
They don't even know how they've been fucking groomed for do what they're doing since they were in fucking kindergarten.
And that's exactly what that guy was doing.
And that's what then, that's why it takes a Jagov comedian to come from out of nowhere to go, this is all bullshit.
And you guys repeat propaganda on the fucking regular.
So there you go.
So Baba, Oh, by the way, in Mexico, health minister and six vaccination not beneficial for children.
That's the health minister of Mexico.
He said he would not vaccinate his own children.
And you want to know what the FDA says about the vaccines?
They don't know what the long-term side effects are.
They acknowledge they don't know.
Here's a guy who's a voting member on the FDA panel, and here's what he has to say about it.
And I think what tweaks me here is that it's a very sort of personal choice.
If I had a child who had a transplant recipient, I would really want to be able to use a vaccine like this.
And there are certainly kids who probably should be vaccinated.
The question of how broadly to use it, though, I think is a substantial one.
And I know it's not our question, but I know we're kind of punting that to ACIP.
But I do think that it's a relatively close call.
And as Dr. Levy just said, Dr. Kagan said, it really is going to be a question of what the prevailing conditions are.
But we're never going to learn about how faithful vaccine is unless we start giving it.
That's just the way it goes.
That's how we found out about rare complications of other vaccines.
So he just said, we don't know what the complications are going to be until we start giving it.
So anyway, that's just a perfect example of how I just wandered onto Twitter today.
I saw this article.
People at regular journalists are tweeting it out like it's fact.
It's garbage, and they're just pushing propaganda, and they don't even know it.
They think they're doing a good thing.
He thinks he's coming.
Of course, he has to smear me immediately like a fucking bull.
Anti-vaxxer.
Yeah, immediately.
That's all they can say.
They never addressed the point on the merits.
Never, never addressed the point that that's a garbage article that actually the flu, the kids are not.
It's garbage.
You know, it's an appeal to establishment prejudice.
Yes.
And Ryan Cooper presents himself as sort of anti-establishment.
He's part of the social democrat pro-Bernie intelligentsia that hovers around journals like Jacobin, which have said in pretty clear terms that if you oppose vaccine mandates, you're a Nazi.
They've published an article saying, well, Hitler also opposed vaccine mandates, so you're a Nazi.
And so does Professor Richard Wolf.
And so does Black Marxists.
So Richard Wolf's a Nazi too.
I mean, that really upset them.
You look at the responses, by the way, to your interview with Richard Wolf from that crowd, the kind of SOC Dem.
The synthetic left?
I call them the lockdown left.
You could call them the laptop left because most of them, you know, their lives were under lockdown before the pandemic already.
Then they finally got paid to stay home.
It was like the greatest time of their lives.
But, you know, the responses to Richard Wolfe are just like, you know, he has no place in the left.
He's horrible, anti-vaxxer, but they don't respond to what he's saying on the merits.
There's no public debate with these characters.
And I really wonder what it is about them that makes them so extreme on these issues and such useful idiots for big pharma and oligarchs, like big tech oligarchs.
It really has to do with them digging themselves in 18 months ago and doubling down on being wrong, assigning political virtue to a product produced by big pharma.
Yes.
Believing that not being even interested in whether a cloth mask actually works when there's no RCT that demonstrates.
And by the way, there's a Pfizer whistleblower that just came out this last week that the tests were not done properly.
There's all kinds of problems, right?
Well, the point about it is that, you know, a lot of these people who've become wedded to this narrative have very personal reasons that speak to their own kind of their own psychology.
And strangely, they're situated on the left, so they're incapable of being the critics that they have been of power or abuses of power.
So they won't talk about the Pfizer whistleblower that you're talking about.
They won't talk about digital ID vaccine passports.
They're not interested in how mandates are abusing workers, forcing them to violate their bodily autonomy and reject, completely reject informed consent, basically a violation of the Nuremberg Convention in order to comply with an official order.
They're not interested in any of that.
They've become so wedded to this agenda.
They see the mask and the jab as a kind of virtuous amulet.
And they see ivermectin as a fascist symbol so that anyone, whether it's Joe Rogan or Aaron Rodgers, when they say that they have healed themselves using natural medicine or early treatments and that they were unvaccinated, that immediately is a sign of fascism.
And from my point of view, it's kind of, it kind of reminds me of what the Democrats did to Susan Sarandon, but in a much more insane way, where they see Rogan or Aaron Rodgers or anyone who resists this agenda as politically too independent and therefore dangerous, and they have to be ritually stoned.
It's, you know, every year there's someone who asks Jill Stein, Ralph Nader, Susan Sarandon, now it's Aaron Rodgers and Joe Rogan.
They have to be ritually stoned by these Democrat-oriented influencers because they're displaying too much independence and they're taking people away from a failing party.
So I think there's a lot of partisanship, politics, and personal psychology here that explains the hysteria around this.
It definitely has nothing to do with science or any of the fact-based analysis that's being espoused by a Jagoff nightclub comedian.
It's just amazing that these guys who call themselves journalists can get dismantled by literally, I'm not a smart guy.
I'm a comedian.
Well, look, let's look at the page, the card of the Mexican health minister.
And what he's saying is just basic stuff.
Children have a wonderful immune system.
This is Jorge Alcoser, the health minister of the government of Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, someone who's, you know, otherwise beloved by the U.S. left.
He said children have a wonderful immune system compared to the later phases of their life.
And so with a completely inorganic structure, such as a vaccine, the health minister said it's not the right thing to do.
You're messing with children's immunity.
And he's under massive attack now for saying that.
But that's kind of like how I always understood public health.
You look at the CDC, the CDC study, which is badly flawed, claiming that naive vaccination, having a vaccine against COVID-19, one of these leaky vacces, is actually more durable than natural immunity.
They're just doing this for the purpose of propaganda to advance an agenda where they've been proven wrong at every point.
And I'm not saying that there's not a place for vaccination, including in children, children with comorbidities, there's maybe a place for it.
Mexico is actually inoculating children with comorbidities, but they're not recommending it or pushing it on the general population of children.
That's right.
And how many times do I have to tell people there's another country that stopped using Moderna for men or boys under 24 or France?
right?
And I think Denmark, Ontario and Canada.
So there's just this week, France suspended it for under 30-year-olds.
Under 30.
So, wow.
And so, and they, and you want to push this on kids?
Well, as I mentioned, there's another agenda, there's an ulterior agenda.
San Francisco is now beginning to introduce vaccine passports for children.
Jesus.
Hey, this is Jimmy Dore.
Who's this?
Hey, Tara, look out.
We've had some awkward times.
But, you know, I think we really need to talk this out.
This whole thing.
Joe, this is Jimmy Dore.
Jimmy Dore.
Oh, great.
I'm glad you called.
Hang on.
Hey, Tara, I have Jimmy Dore on the line.
So I'm going to have to call you back.
There's an Amazon gift card in it if we can just, you know, put this whole thing behind us.
Okay, I'm back.
Hey, Jimmy, I got things to talk about today.
You got 20 minutes?
Of course, Joe.
Take all the time you need.
Great.
Because now I got to take a league like nobody's business, except it's everybody's business with me.
Okay, I think I'm done.
I'm back.
You know the thing.
Speaking of a thing, here's the thing.
Even my wife, who happens to be a doctor, is back to working full-time.
Very proud of her.
Be proud.
America proud.
But, Joe, two days a week is not full-time.
It is if you're a doctor.
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