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Okay, hey, this is Jimmy Door.
Who's this?
Jimmy Doerr, this is Vince Vaughn calling you on the old timey telephone machine.
Oh, great.
We love it when Double V calls in.
Okay, you know what?
Yeah, you know what, Jimmy?
I saw that chart, that chart you were on showing that you were the furthest left of any media show anywhere, like the liberalist man in the world.
Oh, yeah, yeah, some crazy organization put out a thing trying to plot all the different shows, and they had the Jimmy Door show as the farthest, most radical lefty show in the country.
Yeah, I know.
That's fucking scary.
I'm literally fucking scared of you right now.
So, yeah, I'm sorry to tell you.
I'm sorry to tell you, baby, but you've lost your double V privileges.
It's too familiar of a nickname.
It's too chummy.
Moving forward, please call me by my full formal name.
And what is that?
Vince Mont Valparaiso Vaughn.
Vince Mont, that can't be a real name, can it?
Oh, absolutely not.
My mom and dad did a lot of blowback in the day, like an insane amount.
That explains a lot, actually.
Hey, what do you call it about, Vince?
The recall election, baby.
Oh, I see.
How do you feel about it?
Well, I'm a little conflicted because, of course, I wanted this career politician, a Democrat, this Gavin Newsome person out of office.
Also, I don't want someone who looks like they did a buddy comedy with me in 2005 being my governor.
I don't like it.
I don't like him either.
Like if we robbed a bank and then pretended to be gay or whatever, that's what the movie would have been.
I don't like him either, Vince.
Yeah, that's what's weird to me.
I feel like you're supposed to like him.
Why would you think that?
Because you're to the left of me over where he is.
Yes, Vince, I'm way to the left of you, but I am also way to the left of Gavin Newsome.
Okay, okay, you know what?
See, this is what makes my head hurt.
It's like when someone tries to explain string theory or some shit, and I'm like, okay, could you just stop, please?
I'll just accept that this is a real thing if you just stop talking, I swear to God.
Does it help if I say simply that I'm a leftist and he's a liberal?
Ow, my head!
Okay, never mind.
Go on.
Okay, yeah, so I wanted him to be recalled, but obviously he was not liked by a lot.
So I was kind of bummed.
But then I did some reading, you know, some news articles.
Uh-huh.
And there's this real brainiac over at CNN named Chris Eliza.
He writes for CNN and shit.
Real smart politics guy, right?
And he is.
And he has some very interesting hot takes, but like very, really well thought out hot takes, not just hot takes for takes sakes.
Uh-huh, Chris Eliza.
Go on.
Got it.
And I took a deep dive into this guy's article, right?
I think he might be a college professor or a guy that they go to for information, like whatever is higher than a college professor.
And you know, and you know what he said.
He said something really smart and interesting.
Is that so?
He said that really the big winner in the recall election was Larry Elder.
Now, I know that sounds crazy because he lost like insanely an amount of loss.
But this guy, Chris Eliza, this guy, this brain, found a way to say that he was the winner.
Jimmy, I'm not lying when I tell you that I had to sit down for a little bit and stare at the wall.
Yeah, Vince, that's just what these guys do.
They make some contrarian point as clickbait, and it lures people in and makes people like you think they're smart.
Excuse me, Jimmy Dore.
Are you questioning the Svengali-like political acumen of CNN's Chris Alyssa?
Yes, Vince, I am.
Absolutely unbelievable.
I can't believe I'm hearing this.
You're a media guy.
Chris Eliza's a media guy.
Hell Larry Elder is a media guy.
I feel like there should be some sort of nexus of mutual respect here.
Well, there's not.
Well, there should be.
Look, Double C over at CNN said Larry Elder established himself as a political household name and is definitely now the leader of the Trump wing of at least of the California Republican Party.
Did you refer to Chris Eliza as Double C?
I did, baby.
Okay.
All right, back to the sketch.
How is that a victory in any sense?
The anger that Trump exploited is still going to be around as a political force somehow, but its association with Trump and his clones is going to wane.
Certainly in California, that won't win elections here.
God damn it, that's the opposite of what my boy Sizzle says.
Why can't all you smart guys just agree?
I hate this.
So you're saying Larry Elder's not going to be the governor like ever?
No.
And why don't you just listen to me and get the straight dope?
Yeah, no, I'm not falling for that.
Everybody knows a responsible citizen gets his news from several different news sources that don't necessarily agree with one another.
So it's tough, but I got to listen to you, Western Sizzling over at CNN, fucking News Max.
Mix them all together and get the truth.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
I'm going to print that chart out that we were talking about and start throwing darts at it.
That's the only fair way.
Mix it up, see who's telling the truth.
This will remind me of my youth when I would try and form a worldview by listening to 15 minutes of NPR and then two hours of Man Cow.
Who knows, Jimmy, when I'm done with this, I might be, I just might be as smart as you and Chris Alyza.
Look out, baby.
Vince Montz coming for you.
Ah!
Hi, everybody.
How you doing?
Let's go.
Our guest is here.
Our guest is here.
Look at that.
Hank, Anthony, can you go like retweet this shit from my Twitter account?
All right, we're live.
Jimmy probably put up some.
What?
We're live.
We're live.
All right.
Let me.
Am I live?
Yes.
Yes, we're live.
You're live, too.
You haven't introduced me yet.
I want the whole setup.
Go ahead and do it.
Okay.
Our guest is the most consequential journalist of Our time.
Holy shit.
Who wrote this?
He has a new book out called Securing Democracy about his reporting, which led to the freeing of former president Lula of Brazil.
He recently resigned over censorship from the online news publication, The Intercept, an organization he helped found.
You can now read his writings at greenwald.substack.com.
Please welcome Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Glenn Greenwald.
Hi, Glenn.
Hey, James, I'm going to be on your show in like 2027, and you're going to be like, he recently resigned from the intercept and has a new book out.
Maybe you should like update that a little.
You have that huge staff there.
Maybe someone can do that.
I like saying that.
You know, I like to rip the intercept at any chance I get.
You know that.
Yeah, no, for sure.
We should always have that be part of our introduction.
Just maybe take out the word recently because it's starting to age a little.
Okay, I'll take out recently.
You're right.
It's been over a year, probably, right?
Around about a year.
Yeah.
Getting there.
Okay.
You know, in the scheme of life.
I just said 20 years goes by like that.
It does.
It goes by.
All right.
So today we're going to talk about the elites are unmasking themselves at the Met.
So we're going to talk about that.
So I want to talk about there was the party that AOC went to.
There she is with the.
She looks beautiful.
She looks beautiful with the tax.
Beautiful.
Absolutely.
Look at the silhouette.
It's stunning.
So a lot of people have said that what they do.
Look, there's Mary Levin Robot back there.
I don't know how she time traveled, but a lot of people say that the squad is not worth anything except tweeting.
And now they literally wear tweets when they go out to events.
That's what that is.
It was disappointing that she didn't have a hashtag.
No kidding.
I know.
No kidding.
That was the one faux pas in her otherwise perfect design.
By the way, there were a bunch of people outside protesting the police during this event.
She didn't mention them.
She wasn't out there protesting.
Fortunately, she wasn't able to make her way out there.
She couldn't make it.
It's hard to do that in stilettos.
So that's a $30,000 event.
And Nick from the Fred Hampton Leftist says, Justice Democrats be like, we need to raise awareness on policies that have 70% popular support.
Everybody's for taxing the rich.
You don't need any more.
We need you to fight for it.
How about you actually go fight for it?
Well, the other way before you go get into that, the other funniest thing about that, and maybe this point comes up that, but like it's so funny is they were acting as though she had brought some like incredibly disturbing message to what was going to be a hostile crowd as though she was like at a Koch brothers austerity event.
These were like Joe Biden liberal celebrities.
Like you think like Rihanna and like Naomi Osaka and like all these Democrats and liberals were offended because AOC wore a speech that wore a dress that said tax the rich.
There was a user on Twitter who found the Michael Moore acceptance speech when he won the Oscar in 2003 and he used it for his film about Columbine and he got up there and he said, we have a president who's a liar.
The war is a lie.
And all those Hollywood liberals, because of the atmosphere at the time, started viciously booing him.
I remember that.
And she pointed out that's what happens if you actually are doing something subversive.
Yes.
No one was the slightest bit bothered by AOC.
They thought it was adorable.
Yes, they were giggling with her.
They thought it was great.
So here, don't worry, guys.
In 2028, the squad will wear Green New Deal banners to the ball as the planet burns around us.
Yes, but think of all the committee assignments they'll have gained by then.
That's the important thing.
Don't forget that.
Shama Sawant tweeted out, the unfortunate truth is we're not going to tax the rich or win Medicare for all or $15 minimum wage by attending billionaire galas.
We won Seattle's historic $15 an hour in Amazon tax, not by me attending Amazon or Chamber of Commerce events, but by me using my office to build fighting movements.
Wow.
If you're wondering what the liberal leftist divide is, it's your reaction to the Met Gala.
That's such a beautiful tweet.
That's such a great sentiment that I couldn't believe I went on.
I'm so stupid.
As I always say, it's true.
I went on social media and I couldn't believe the people defending her doing this obvious, stupid stunt that had no impact on anything and didn't bother the elite whatsoever.
But there were people cheering for her as if she was doing something.
Okay.
What happened is so obvious, right?
For all the tens of thousands of words that have been spilled, what happened here is actually extremely simple.
She got invited to go to this really opulent, extravagant, glitzy gala and hang out with super famous and rich celebrities in a way that's very glamorous.
And she really wanted to go.
Yes.
Because it's fun for people to do that for some people.
At the same time, she knew that if she did that, she would have a problem with how can she maintain her socialist street credibility.
So at the last second, she's like, let's just spray paint tax the rich on the back of my dress and that'll solve the whole thing.
Knowing that most of her followers are so fucking stupid that they're going to actually think that was some like subversive and self-sacrificing thing that she did for them, as opposed to just some like way of laughing at them to entitle her not just to go to like one of the most vulgar testaments to capitalism ever to emerge since like the time of Marie Antoinette, but to have them cheer for her as she did it.
I mean, it's, it's unbelievable.
First of all, I just want to go back to what Aaron said.
He said, if you're wondering what the liberal leftist divide is, it's your reactions to Met Gala.
Now, I thought it used to be that used to be the left liberal divide used to be how much yelling hurt your feelings.
That used to be it.
But now, here's exactly your point, Glenn.
Here she is.
She's going now.
To me, it looks like she's at the Oscars or a movie premiere.
Watch this.
Oh, wait, hang on.
I got to get the, I got to get the.
Oh, audio.
I got to get the audio hooked up.
Hang on.
I got to call my tech guy.
Jimmy, can you plug that in?
Got it.
Thank you.
All right, here we go.
Ready?
yes AOC oh my gosh oh my gosh oh my gosh uh There's your socialist champion, ladies and gentlemen.
There's your socialist champion with someone carrying her dress behind her.
And by the way, if you notice, the person carrying her dress is wearing a mask.
Only the servants at this event were wearing masks.
And that's really what I wanted to, because I covered the grossness of what she's doing and the transparent stunt of what this was already.
I covered it yesterday.
So I wanted to focus more on just the blatant hypocrisy that the elite have had over just the way they've handled COVID, telling you to be locked down, telling you to wear a mask.
And then, of course, here in California, Gavin Newson going out to the richest, the most expensive restaurant in the country, the French laundry, sitting there with two health insurance lobbyists, One on each shoulder.
So that's the kind of thing that is driving people crazy.
That kind of blatant hypocrisy.
And here it is.
The masking of servant class.
Ugly COVID images from the Met Gala are now commonplace.
While AOC's revolutionary and subversive socialist gown generated buzz, the normalization of maskless elites attended by the faceless servants is grotesque.
There it is.
It is grotesque.
Who wrote that?
That's a brilliant headline and sub headline.
Who was the author of that article?
I think it was some dick on Reddit.
Some douchebag.
Oh, wait, it was Glenn Greenwald.
Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right.
It's been a couple of days.
I forgot.
Yeah, that's right.
So that was, and that's over at Substack.
Glenn Greenwald.substack.fuck.
But so here's, I want to see another one.
Here's Nancy Pelosi.
Watch this.
So there's all the.
A question was asked this morning about a master's song off about young people and how we were reaching out to young people in the Olympics.
So nobody masked.
And who's talking?
We reached out to.
There's Nancy Pelosi.
So no matter, again, there's another, and here it is.
Here's Gavin Newsome.
For California Governor, the coronavirus message is: do as I say, not as I dine.
Oh my God.
So let me see.
Here's Barack Obama.
Obama caught dancing maskless during celebrity-packed birthday party.
Come on, Pearl Jam canceled.
Here, do you want to see it?
Here, I don't have the music, but here they are.
And there's Barack Obama dancing.
Nobody's wearing a mask.
Nobody's wearing a mask.
Harry goes over.
He's going to start.
He's going to hug.
I don't know who he's hugging.
It's indoors.
You'll notice, too.
They claimed at first it wasn't going to be an outdoor.
It's just all there.
You see the ceiling of the tents.
It's all indoors.
Yes, they're all indoors and they're maskless, except for the help.
Again, the help is not maskless.
And I just want to bring up this point.
The United States has the highest, if not the highest death rate of COVID, right?
We handled it really poorly in the United States.
Guess who handled it poorly?
The elites, right?
It's the oligarchs handled it poorly while they transferred $5 trillion upward while they told you to go home and they didn't give you a check while they canceled your job, right?
And now the eviction moratorium's over and a lot of people are getting kicked out of there because of the way the elites have handled this.
That the problem, the reason why we're having death rates and all Andrew Cuomo lying, making old people sick, go back into their old folks' home.
And so, but what Joe Biden and the shit libs want you to do now is be angry at your neighbor.
They want you to be angry at your neighbor who's not vaccinated.
They want you to be angry at your neighbor.
And so keep fighting amongst you.
They want you to be angry at your neighbor who's taking a medicine that they don't approve of.
They want you to be angry at each other instead of angry at the people who are responsible for this.
And I'll tell you one more time: 200,000 people would be alive today if we had Medicare for all.
That's a fact.
200,000 people would be alive today.
So if the oligarchs gave a shit about us, they would give us health care during this pandemic.
But they don't because they don't give a shit.
And what they want us to do is blame each other.
That's exactly what they want us to do.
Keep fighting and blame each other because that's all they got.
All right, I'll throw it over to you, Glenn, about the masks.
Yeah, well, I mean, for me, this was the much more relevant part than the part about AOC.
I know in your narcissism, you typically keep yourself very large in the screen and your guests like at a little tiny thumbnail.
So you probably can't see the image I have behind me.
Maybe like momentarily you can sacrifice your ego to enlarge me for just like a split second and then make me tiny again so that you're dominating the screen.
But if you can see, that is like a screenshot.
This is the thing that shocked me the most from the AOC part, which was, so here she is.
She's coming out of, you know, like the hotel going into the air-conditioned bus that was rented for all the people to go to another party on the water.
And she walks out and there's these like adoring fans, all of whom are masked, along with the paparazzi.
So the people, the ordinary people are masked.
The people who are getting shit wages to try and snap a picture of her in the hopes of selling it, because you know, we don't see AOC enough.
They're all masks.
And then the most amazing thing is she has a servant carrying the train of her fucking dress, her gown, and he's masked and she's not.
I want to, how can this be?
I mean, how is it that it's scientifically justified that the servants have to wear masks standing two feet away from the celebrities who don't?
And how does that image not disturb everybody so severely?
And so when I first noticed this and wrote about it, it was in the context of the Nancy Pelosi event where you had this, you know, what it was was it was a fundraiser for the Driple C. It was in Napa in California.
It was like weeks after LA County had reimposed a mask mandate for large outdoor events.
And San Francisco had maintained its mask mandate that went further than the CDC saying that if you're going to be outdoors close in close proximity to people, you should still wear a mask.
And yet here is the Driple C dinner in Napa, this like very, you know, chic wine region in Nancy Pelosi's district or right nearby where she has her mansion.
And you had, I don't know, if it wasn't 100% rich white Democrats, it was like 98% rich white Democrats sitting one on top of the other.
Like not, like, that's like too little social distancing for me, even without the pandemic.
Like, I would never want to sit that close to people I didn't know, let alone in the middle of like a pandemic that's supposed to be so like threatening that we have to keep our fucking schools closed and everyone has to wear a piece of cloth mask over their face.
None of them had masks on, even though they weren't eating.
Some of them were waiting to be served, but they weren't eating.
So they didn't even have the excuse that, well, I was had my mask off because I was in the middle of eating.
In fact, Gavin Newsom, like days before he got caught with no mask at that lobbyist dinner, tweeted, hey, even if you're eating and you have to take your mask off to eat, what you do is you pull your mask off with one hand, shovel the food in your other, and then really quickly as possible, cover your, he said, mask in between bites.
So this is the stuff they're decreeing to all these ordinary people while exempting themselves in every way.
So you see at that event, the only people who have cloth over their face are the overwhelmingly people of color who are there to be the servants to the rich white people who are free to have their faces unmasked.
And it's just such a kind of like vivid illustration for me of the cultural rot and balkanization, this cultural segregation that we have in the United States more than ever before between cultural and political and media and financial elites on the one hand and ordinary people on the other.
That we're now at the point that the servants don't even need faith.
You don't even have to see their faces.
You just tell them to cover their faces with cloth so that they just serve and you don't have, you just dehumanize them.
No contact with their nose or mouth.
They Like, they don't even look human so that they don't bother you.
They're just there to serve.
While like the real people, the actual humans, the wealthy ones or the famous ones, the celebrities like AOC, are free to go maskless.
How is it that you can be somebody?
Like, honestly, Jimmy, like looking at this picture makes me uncomfortable.
It makes me incredibly uncomfortable.
How does it not?
You know, how do you, how do you, as AOC, not say to this person, you know what?
Do you know who was in front of AOC when she was walking out there?
No.
It was her boyfriend, her boyfriend.
Why not say to the boyfriend, look, I don't want some paid worker carrying the fucking train of my dress like I'm some kind of like British aristocrat.
Why don't you, you know, you carry it or just fucking carry it yourself.
Right.
And like, if you say, like, if you see that the guy is like, you say to him, like, hey, look, I don't have a mask on.
Like, maybe you should take your mask off.
Feel free to because it's not really right.
If you have any actual authenticity in your like anti-hierarchy or socialist inclinations, just reflexively, you would avoid this situation.
Not because of the optics, although obviously you should do it for that if you're a politician.
It would just, it would make me feel so, you know, uncomfortable.
So it's so repellent to see it that I just can't believe.
But instead, she's like waving like some kind of fucking, you know, like Princess of Wales or whatever.
You know, she, I mean, it's like the Oscars, as you said, like on the red card, but coming out and having a Doring fans scream for her, she like does that little royal wave while there's a guy in a mask carrying her fucking dress.
And this is, this disparity is, is, that's why, like, for me, the more interesting part of this was not should AOC have gone to the fucking Met Gala.
We all know AOC wants to be a political, a cultural celebrity.
And then she uses the pretext that she's just doing it to reach people, to bring the socialist message, whatever.
We all know the reality of AOC by now.
That's not really that interesting.
What really caught my attention is now how commonplace this is.
So even when I wrote about it, Jimmy, that first time in that Driple C dinner in California, a lot of people, even while meeting people, said to me, why are you being appointed this?
This is how it works now.
You go to a restaurant, you sit there on mask, and the waiters are masked.
And it's like, the fact that it's commonplace doesn't make it better.
Actually, it makes it worse.
That's my point.
We're like constantly getting acculturated to the idea that we have two classes of people, even to the point of who gets to show their face and who doesn't.
So those are all, those are all great points.
And I just want to make another point about the dress she's wearing.
So people were, of course, that's the opposite of her image, her street cred is that she wants to abolish ICE and she's with the people.
Even though there were people outside protesting, the cops, and she didn't even acknowledge it.
She wasn't out there protesting.
She was inside wearing this dress and she defended the dress by saying.
The gown, gown.
I'm sorry, the gown.
It's a gown.
And she decided that.
Yes, you need to be respectful of what was done here.
And she said the art that was created.
And she said it was made by a woman of color who was an immigrant, which sounds great.
Working class, a working class woman of color like her.
That's right.
She's an immigrant.
That's right.
Do you know where she immigrated from?
She immigrated from Toronto.
Tell me about your journey.
It is such a long and arduous trek.
It is extremely dangerous.
People really don't understand how menacing that is to have to go from fucking Toronto to Manhattan.
Imagine the horrors this woman endured in order to become a migrant.
And then she was also like, there was that clip of hers where she said, yeah, you know, her name is Aurora James.
She's like a famous designer.
That's the designer of AOC's radical, subversive revolutionary dress.
And she said, yeah, Aurora and I were talking about how meaningful it is that two working class women of color are going to be at this event and we need to break the fourth wall and all that bullshit.
And your point, I presume, is we learned who this downtrodden immigrant woman of color is dating.
So why don't you show that?
Oh, she's dating.
So the woman who designed the dress is dating 100 millionaire.
I don't have the scope.
Yeah, I think you're a hedge fund manager from like the family that was one of the co-founders of Lehman Brothers.
Yes, yes, that's exactly right.
Lehman Brothers.
That's right.
We reported on this yesterday.
I don't have it loaded into today's show.
But yeah, 100 million.
Thank you for the setup.
Her boyfriend, the woman who designed that dress is an immigrant from Toronto.
And her boyfriend is 100 millionaire from Lehman Brothers.
So there you go.
There's this regular people and this regular.
And then of course, of course, and I know this is shocking and so out of character for AOC.
She went on to Instagram.
I guess it was this morning.
When was it?
It was this morning to address her critics.
And you'll never guess what she accused her critics of.
In a million years, you'll never guess because it's so out of character for her.
She accused her critics of being resentful of women of color being in power, of wanting to control the bodies of women in color because they're not comfortable with powerful women of color like her.
Basically, she accused everybody who might be disturbed by a scene like this of a masked servant carrying the gown of a socialist of being a white supremacist, a misogynist, and every other form of bigotry because you're against working class women of color being invited to the Met Gala.
That's it.
That's the flex.
So the flex now is any criticism of them is that you're, again, you're misogynist, you're racist, you're white supremacist.
That's it.
They don't ever engage on the substance of anything.
I was also, she accused me of violence that my words criticizing her in my garage were she's always the victim.
She's like in this fucking, you know, like the most exclusive elite event that the darkest recesses of the capitalist brain have has ever puked up in centuries.
And she's the victim.
She's like the one who's being bullied and abused.
You know, that's always her go-to.
So I'm sure you saw the online conflict.
It was very one-sided between Nikki Minaj and MSNBC's Joy Reid, who is, as we know, victimized by hackers who are unfortunately still at large.
So be careful out there.
Time traveling hackers.
Time-tout traveling hackers who unfortunately the FBI never apprehended the investigation that they had launched to find them.
Where basically Nikki Minaj went onto Twitter and claimed that she has a cousin in Trinidad whose friend got vaccinated.
And as a result, not only became impotent, but had swollen balls and his fiancé broke off the wedding because of it.
And she encouraged people not to take the vaccine because they're being bullied.
So Joy Reid did a segment saying, oh, Nikki, I'm a huge fan, but what you did here is wrong.
And Nikki Minaj unleashed the holiest hell on Joy Reid, like a series of tweets accusing her of, you know, being a black woman who attacks other black women to please white men.
But also like then ended up doing like Apo research on Joy Reid and found like her homophobic tweets and the bullshit lies she told about the hackers.
And to this day, even though Nikki Minaj is relentlessly attacking Joy Reed to 22 million people who follow Nikki Minaj on Twitter, Joy Reed hasn't uttered a peep, not a syllable of acknowledgement, let alone response.
You know why?
Because the only tactic Joy Reed has in the world is the one AOC used against her critics, which is to claim everybody's a white supremacist and doesn't like her because she's black, and it doesn't work with Nikki Minaj.
So it's like a car that's ready to drive, but it's completely out of gas.
The tank is empty.
She doesn't know how to start the car.
And, you know, it's just a by now, everyone is so accustomed to the cynical weaponization of these insults that I don't think anyone really gives a shit anymore.
Yes.
And yes, doesn't.
Yes, it doesn't work as well.
That's certainly.
Thank God.
Thank God.
Yeah.
I mean, and that's not to say, again, that's not to say that there isn't racism and misogyny in the world.
But when, just like when you call Bernie Sanders a sexist and then you call Donald Trump a sexist, it has no meaning.
It's worse than that.
Like, it reminds me a lot of the way neocons have so weaponized anti-Semitism against anyone who criticizes Israel.
So essentially, the minute you criticize the Israeli government, you get accused of anti-Semitism.
And what it does is, it's not just that it weakens it, it trivializes that concept.
So there is anti-Semitism in the world, and it's dangerous, and we need words to combat it, but they've ruined the ability to combat it by cynically exploiting it over and over for political gain.
That's what people like AOC and Joy Reed are doing with things like misogyny and racism, is they're so flagrantly exploiting it and tossing it recklessly for their own purposes that when you actually need it to confront real racism and misogyny, they're basically giving a huge gift to actual racism misogynists because those words we get trained to just tune out to them because of their abuse.
That's why you're the writer.
That's well said.
That's exactly right.
The overuse of them makes people deaf to them and desensitized to them.
And that's what I try.
I tried to say that when they were calling Bernie Sanders and said, like, you know what?
If you call him, it's not going to work.
And they don't care.
Okay, let's.
Now, Glenn, you got to go.
I wanted to talk about the mandates if you have time, but you got to go.
Yeah, I got to go.
I should never.
I'll come back.
We'll talk about the mandates.
I'll come back and we'll talk about those.
Okay.
All right.
Glenn Greenwald, the most consequential journalist of our generation.
Ladies and gentlemen.
I just recently left the intercept.
I have a new book out about.
Okay.
And he'll be.
All right, Jimmy.
Hey, everybody.
We just added stand-up dates in Florida and Arizona.
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I think so.
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Hi, this is Jimmy.
Who's this?
Hey, Joe, this is Jimmy Doerr.
How am I doing?
I'm fine.
Thanks, Joe.
Glad to hear it.
Hey, man.
I saw this Milar came here and about this numerical horse drug.
I'm a Mexican to grow hair implants asking for a friend with male pattern baldness in his late 70s.
You mean when you say I think he runs the country?
No, Joe, it's called ivermectin, and it's not new.
It's called ivermectin, not I'm a Mexican.
It's called Ivermectin.
Ivermectin.
Iver, what's it?
I think I got the name confused with Robotusin.
I rubbed stuff on my ball and I swallowed so big I lost my sense of direction.
And that was before I took the pill.
Seriously, man, I'm not kidding.
It is no joke.
Joe, it's just a drug that's been around for a long time that researchers around the world are looking into as a possible treatment for COVID.
Look, man, you can't go repurposing drugs like that for other diseases.
It's unheard of in my vast medical knowledge.
My Biden, Dr. Jill Wife, told me that.
My Joe Wife Biden doctor told me that.
Stop it.
You know this thing.
Well, I guess.
Settle down.
Well, I guess that's what all the clinical trials are trying to decide, right, Joe?
No, get off it, man.
Nobody's taking clinics to trial.
We got rid of that with tart reform.
We need clinics.
Where do you people come up with this stuff?
Hey, fat.
You want to get rid of the pandemic?
Keep supporting California Governor Alvin Newsom.
He's doing great work against the virus.
You mean Gavin Newsom?
Gavin McLeod.
No, Joe, that was the love boat.
It sure was, man.
I love it there in California.
Everybody wears less clothing.
I'm talking about Governor Gavin Newsom, Joe.
That's what I said, you idiot.
Alfred E. Newsom.
He's eradicating the virus.
Oh, really?
How?
By burning California to the ground.
All those...
What?
How is he doing it?
By burning California to the ground.
All those new fracking permits weren't for nothing, my friend.
It's all part of my great plan to stop global warming 20 years after it's too late.
Here's my strategy.
Court progressive moderates and pragmatic Republicans within the party.
And United Cohesive, where's my muffin?
Joe.
Well, Joe, the whole country is either flooding or burning.
I know.
And here's what I'm going to do.
I'm going to take all the water from the flooded parts and use it to put out the fire in the burning parts.
But I'm going to be honest with you, it's not going to be easy.
I'm going to have to tunnel through the Rockies and pave over half of Yellowstone National Park.
But I need your help.
What can I do, Joe?
I need you to strategize.
Organize and agitate.
Make some good trouble.
Stop fucking with me for what happened in Afghanistan.
That's all Donald Trump's fault.
Secretary Lincoln told me so.
Blinken.
Blinken.
Secretary blinking, Joe.
The Mideast is exploding, by the way.
I know.
And here's what I'm going to do.
Take all the soldiers we flooded Afghanistan with and put them in Syria.
I'm going to be honest with you.
It's not going to be easy.
We're going to have to tunnel them through the Rockies and pave over half of Yellowstone National Park.
But I need your help.
What could I do, Joe?
Find me the nuclear codes.
I think I dropped them in my pudding.
Never mind.
I just found him and I don't need you anymore.
Now stop it.
Bye.
The shitlibs are losing their mind over George Bush gave a speech.
Now, I'm old enough to remember when the liberals in this country, like Keith Oberman, thought that George Bush was used to call him Hitler.
And the worst thing, and they would call him the American Taliban, and they would call him all those things because why?
Because he deserved it.
Because he's a war criminal who lied us into a war and then invented a torture program and then let all those people in New Orleans die.
I mean, it just one disaster after another.
George Bush didn't have an accomplishment in eight years of his presidency.
There was no accomplishment.
And everyone hated him.
They hated him so much.
The next guy we elected was a black guy with a Muslim name.
That was seven years after 9-11.
They elected a black guy with a Muslim name.
That's how much they hated George Bush.
And now they got somebody else to hate.
They hate Donald Trump now.
So now they love George Bush.
But isn't this interesting that the shitlibs hated Ralph Nader?
They hate Nalf Nader because he gave us George Bush.
But now they love George Bush, but they still hate Ralph Nader.
You see what I'm talking about?
Do you see how that's all propaganda and mind manipulation?
Do you see that's what that is?
That's exactly what that is.
So here is there's got to be a punchline for that setup.
I got to write a punchline for that.
They used to hate Ralph Nader because he gave us George Bush.
Now they all love George Bush, but they still hate Ralph Nader.
That doesn't make there's got to be a punchline there.
Ron, get on it.
Seatbelts are too tight.
Oh.
Maybe their seatbelts are too tight and it's cutting off the circulation to their brain and Ralph Nader has nobody to blame but himself.
There's the joke.
Is that a joke?
Because you know we got seatbelts because of Ralph Nader, right?
Everybody knows.
Does everybody know that in the audience?
Maybe the kiddies out there don't know that.
The kids on your, you know, when I say kids, I mean the 40-year-olds that watch the show.
Okay, so here's George Bush.
Want to hear some of his horrible speech?
9-11.
By the year, 20, 20-year anniversary, 9-11, 20.
This guy talked.
And they let this guy talk, who then took that horrible tragedy and manipulated us into invading a country that had nothing to do with it and lied us into that war and then tortured people to cover that up.
So 20 years, and you know, people still, you mentioned 9-11.
My uncle still goes crazy.
He can get upset like that.
You know who gets the most upset about 9-11 still?
Iraqis.
Okay, let's listen.
As a nation, our adjustments have been profound.
Many Americans struggle.
Yeah, as a nation, our adjustments have been profound.
Somehow we got even shittier as a country after 9-11.
Isn't that something?
As a nation, our adjustments have been profound.
Many Americans struggle to understand why an enemy would hate us with such zeal.
I could give you a bunch of reasons why most of the world hates us, George.
Maybe it's because we, I don't know, we just bombed their country and killed a million people in it.
You ever think about that?
You ever think about that?
Maybe we put sanctions on Iraq that killed 500,000 children that Madeline Albright said was worth it.
We killed 500,000 children over there.
Do you think that was worth it, George?
You have no idea why they hate us?
I can tell you why I hate you.
It's probably the same reason why they hate you.
The security measures incorporated into our lives are both.
We're bombing the whole world for no reason.
Why do they hate us?
What's wrong with them?
I bet it's their religion.
Bill Maher, is it their religion?
I bet it's their religion.
Animals.
Animals.
That's a primitive religion.
Sources of comfort and reminders of our vulnerability.
And we have seen growing evidence that the dangers to our country can come not only across borders, but from violence that gathers within.
Oh, yes, Mr. President.
Oh, please tell us about the violent extremists at home, Mr. Violent Extremist at home.
This guy's a mass murdering war criminal.
His father, mass murdering war criminal.
His mother gave birth to a mass murdering war criminal and married a mass murdering war criminal.
Isn't that funny?
Oh, okay.
Would you like to jump in on this, Nick?
I'm here with Nick Cruz from the Fred Hampton leftists.
Go ahead, Nick.
Yeah, I've just been laughing because it showed the moral depravity of the liberal class that they rehabilitate this monster.
I don't know if you saw, but there was a Washington Post article.
It was a penny article about how George Bush reminds us that Republicans used to believe in democracy.
Meanwhile, in reality, George Bush had his brother literally rigged the election in Florida.
That's right.
These people literally forget about history that happened in my lifetime.
So these people rehabilitate George Bush, and he created the system that we have right now.
He literally had a torture program, and they think that he somehow has the moral high ground over Donald Trump.
This guy has the moral high ground over nobody.
Nobody in human history.
So you have Bill Moore, like you mentioned.
He always wanted to blame and attack Islam.
Meanwhile, George Bush, he said that he invaded our right because his Christian God told him to do it.
And that invasion led to the death and displacement of millions of people.
But shit lib's going to fear a monger over other religions because they love to divide and conquer.
The problem is imperialism, not these milder spats over religion.
Okay, he's got more to this speech.
There's little cultural overlap between violent extremists abroad and violent extremists at home.
Jesus Christ.
But then there's disdainful pluralism in their disregard for human life and their determination to defile national symbols.
They are children of the same foul spirit.
And it is our continuing duty to confront them.
If we wanted to take his advice, we'd throw him in jail.
That's just a fact.
Anyway, here we go.
The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have killed at least 500,000 people, according to a new poll that breaks down the toll.
I wonder why they hate us.
I wonder why they hate us.
Here we Go.
Former President George W. Bush calling on Americans to confront violent extremists at home.
Former President George W. Bush, John, used his speech yesterday to call out domestic extremists.
I thought this was a really notable moment.
The fact that he did it, it was a beautifully written speech.
President George W. Bush's truly incredible speech.
So he dunked on Trumpers.
And that's what everybody's, oh, George Bush is a mass murdering war criminal who organized a torture program.
He is the moral superior of no one.
In fact, no one is the moral inferior of George Bush.
He's as bad.
He's worse than Charlie Manson.
He's got a much bigger kill list than Charlie Manson.
George Bush is a homicidal maniac and should be in The Hague.
But this is what corporate shit libs do.
They sit around and praise a guy like that because it's a dunk on Donald Trump.
It's a dunk on the Republican they currently hate.
They used to hate George Bush just as much as they hate Donald Trump.
Believe me, I was alive back then.
Keith Olberman built MSNBC on the backs of hating George Bush.
Here's Bill Clinton.
Thank you, my friend, for your powerful and much needed words in this difficult day.
It's a big club, and you ain't in it.
There you go.
And George W. By the way, George W. By the way, George W. Bush stole the election from his vice president, and he doesn't give a shit.
They stole the election from Al Gore.
Every recount the New York Times ever did.
El Gore won Florida.
They don't give a shit.
He doesn't care.
Okay.
Here's Rob Reiner.
Rob Reiner, the biggest millionaire shitlib in California.
In George W. Bush's speech today, he talked about the America he knew, one of compassion for Muslims and immigrants.
When in the fuck have we ever had compassion for immigrants in this goddamn country?
And when have we ever had compassion for Muslims?
You know, George Bush bombed the shit out of Muslims, Rob.
Do you know that?
You know, Bill Clinton killed 500,000 Muslim children?
Do you know Barack Obama dropped more bombs on Muslims than George Bush did?
Do you know that George Bush started a torture program?
Who do you think he tortured?
Do you think he tortured Christians?
Do you think he tortured Jewish people?
Who do you think that they tortured?
Sadly, it's an America we no longer have.
We never had it, Rob.
You're making things up because you have Trump derangement syndrome and Trump lives in your shadow.
You are Donald Trump in your shadow, and that's why it comes out like this.
That's why you end up loving a mass-murdering, psychopathic, homicidal maniac who's also a war criminal who organized a torture program, and you hold him up to be some kind of saint, like he's Gandhi.
Sadly, it's an America we no longer have.
Now the terror comes from within.
Listen, folks, I said this when we found out we were doing a torture program, that whatever we do to people overseas, we're going to eventually do it to people back here.
And we are doing it.
We've militarized our police.
We are now gassing our own people on the regular.
We must all come together again to stand up to ignorance and bigotry.
Who is all?
You mean half the country, right?
Who is all?
You don't mean people who voted for Trump, which was, I think, 70 million people.
You don't mean that, right?
You don't mean half the country.
And by the way, George W. Bush, do you know that he lobbied the senators to make sure Kavanaugh got confirmed?
You know that, right?
You know that George Bush made phone calls to make sure Kavanaugh got confirmed.
You know that, right?
But I'm more responsible for the Supreme Court than George Bush is apparently.
As president, by the way, I just want to ask Rob Reiner, did you talk to any Muslims or immigrants before you wrote that tweet?
Nick, you think Rob Reiner talked to any Muslims or immigrants before he wrote that tweet?
They don't care.
They only care about their suburbanized communities.
Those are the only communities that he care and fight for.
They don't care about state violence.
And it's very obvious why the liberals want to rehabilitate George Bush Jr.
Because they don't want war crimes to be something that society ostracizes you for.
They don't want you to be judged for committing war crimes because they had the same foreign policy.
George Bush created ICE.
Democrats built upon it.
Joe Biden is funding ICE war.
Now, both sides, they use the culture war to distract the fact that they believe in the same bullshit for the most part.
They both believe in giant police budgets.
They both believe in the prison industrial complex.
They all support the genocide in Palestine.
So they don't have any real difference between them.
So they use the culture war to divide and conquer people.
But they actually believe in the same thing.
So when they rehabilitate George Bush, that means they don't want to be complicit in the crimes that they support that George Bush did, like Natty Pelosi, for example, and the foreign policy that they are continuing to this day.
Ada Navarro, she tweeted out, everybody's favorite maniac who's now embraced by the Democrats because she hates Trump.
As president, George Bush was not exactly known for his eloquence, but today he sure showed up.
This is a beautiful and poignant speech, reminding us of what makes us America.
Hope you consider taking the time to listen to it.
Hey, it's this, I don't know what the.
Oh, here it is.
Here's the guy who wants me banned from all social media because he's that kind of a progressive, meaning a fascist.
And there it is.
Even George W. Bush now recognizes Trump, his supporters, and those who directly participated in the 1.6 coup attempt are terrorists, surely as the 9-11 ones were.
I'll say it again.
Trump damaged America in a way Bin Laden only dreamed of.
Hey, now, could you someone show Keith Oberman a picture of George Bush fishing with Putin and watch his head fucking explode?
Could we do that?
Could someone please do that?
George W. Bush is a war criminal.
That's from Roots Action.
Just so you know, just so you know, Keith, the guy you're loving here is not half as bad as Donald Trump.
You know how many people he killed?
Put it up against how many people Donald Trump killed.
Hey, guess what?
Do you know how many torture programs he created?
How many torture programs did Trump create?
Again, they're all maniacs.
They're all horrible people.
Trump Is a horrible fucking con man, war criminal.
George Bush, a worse war criminal than Donald Trump.
Worse.
And a worse president.
Would you agree with that, Nick?
You know what's hilarious?
Like, when you ask Democrats how they feel about, like, Putin, for example, they believe Putin is the worst person of all time.
Liberals really believe, they really believe that Putin killed more people than George Bush Jr. and Barack Obama.
They really believe that.
They really believe that he's imprisoning more people than them.
We imprison one-fourth of the world's prison population.
No one commits more crime against humanity than we do.
But if you ask how they feel about Meduro or Putin, they pretend they are tyrants.
But there is no bigger tyrant in the world than the United States Press, period.
There's no bigger terrorists organization.
I love this.
Everyone knows that Bush is a war criminal, but Dems made sure that he'd never face justice for his crimes.
Dem Elites love Bush.
That's exactly right.
By the way, they're all war criminals.
None of them are not.
They all are.
Barack Obama, his drone program killed 90% innocent civilians.
Joe Biden just killed 10 innocent people, an aid worker in Afghanistan.
They followed him for 12 hours and they blew him up with 10 other people.
They're all worked.
They're all worked.
This idea that Trump is somehow uniquely evil, they're all evil.
Ironically, Trump committed the least amount of evil.
Well, he only had four years.
They all had eight.
So there you go.
Maybe if Trump would have had another four years, he could have caught up to George Bush, Barack Obama, and Bill Clinton, but he didn't.
Anything, I don't even, it's...
But if you still think one of the two parties represents you, then you're not going to see it.
You're going to be caught up in the matrix and you're going to keep voting for the people who are oppressing you.
You know, and that's just, that's where we are.
People say, why do those poor people vote against their own interests when they vote Democratic?
Because they do the same thing when they vote for Joe Biden.
Voting for Joe Biden is a vote against your own interest unless you're a millionaire.
Anything you'd like to close this segment out with, Nick?
I got nothing but the liberals that prop up George Bush.
These people are ahistorical.
They forget about the most recent war crimes that he's responsible for.
He has created the system that led to Donald Trump in the first place.
That's right.
So it's just gross to see.
It's just gross to see.
But they don't really care.
The whole thing they care about is the Culture War, red versus blue, nonsense game.
They don't care about the policies.
They don't care about the lives that are lost as a result of the policies that Joe Biden's continuing.
I always tell people, Joe Biden, just the 11th term of Ronald Reagan, as far as I'm concerned, because Bill Clinton did everything that Ronald Reagan, which he would have did when it comes to deregulating Wall Street, pushing in the crime bill.
And you had George Bush that continued that.
You had Barack Obama that continued that.
And Donald Trump.
The U.S. Empire does not change based on who was president.
That's why you had Donald Trump who pretend he was anti-war.
But at the end of the day, he didn't fall in Afghanistan.
He didn't de-escalate drone strikes.
He actually tried to overthrow Venezuela.
He was responsible for the genocide of Palestine the same way Joe Biden is.
So the U.S. Empire does not change between these red and blue presidents.
So you guys need to stop playing the game and actually speak on the real issues.
And you're not going to get that out either team, either one, Democrats or Republican.
I just got a text from Jim Earl who reminds me that I keep saying that Bill Clinton was responsible for half a million deaths of children, but we've killed way more people than that in the Middle East.
Jim reminds me it could be more like 4 million deaths from direct killing and the long-term impact, according to Physicians for Social Responsibility, measuring Western intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan since 1990s.
And this study is now five years old.
And they said five years ago that we're responsible for more like 4 million deaths.
I wonder why.
And George Bush is like, why would they hate us?
We killed 4 million people over there.
You know how the hatred we have for them because they killed 3,000 people?
Well, just multiply that by, I don't know, 3 million or whatever.
I don't know.
I'm not a math surgeon.
But now you know.
Now you know the rest of the story.
And nobody at CNN would mention, like, nobody would, he didn't hear.
Why would they hate us so much?
And nobody would go, well, I think we all know why they hate it.
Like, no, there's like, come on.
But no, they all just pretend.
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Wow.
American linguists, political activists, and world-renowned intellectual Noam Chomsky's on the phone.
Hello.
Hey.
Hello, Noam.
Please call me No Me.
No me.
You recently said the unvaccinated should be isolated.
What exactly did you mean by that?
I didn't say they should be isolated.
I merely suggested they should be isolated from others by self-isolating themselves.
Yeah, well, in your opinion, as the world's foremost thinker, what is the best method to isolate yourself?
Write a series of books on linguistics.
You'll be amazed at how fast people keep away from you.
But know me, exactly, how long are people supposed to self-isolate?
Personally, I say just your Nazi, you're doobitch until you're firmly toasted away inside the neural pathways of your bungalow.
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