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April 29, 2021 - Jimmy Dore Show
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Get ready for an outstanding entertainment program.
The Jimmy Dore show.
Hi, this is Jimmy.
Who's this?
This is Harrison Ford.
Oh, hi, Harrison.
Thanks for calling in, buddy.
Don't thank me yet.
You don't know what I'm calling about.
Okay, okay.
What are you calling about?
How the hell am I supposed to know?
Hey, you made quite a splash at the Oscars with your rather off-kilter awards intro.
I was trying to underscore the importance of film editing and how it, more than anything else, determines whether the movie itself works or not.
Okay, I see.
So I read some old studio notes from early screenings of Blade Runner, where they said it didn't make sense.
Blade Runner is a movie I was in.
Right, right, right.
I have others.
Would you like to hear them?
After seeing an early cut of the fugitive, one studio exec said this.
Why does the main character change from the guy with the beard to the other guy who doesn't have a beard?
And why is the guy without the beard running all the time?
That isn't explained.
Okay.
Okay.
You see, the editor had accidentally cut out the scene where I shaved my beard off.
I got it.
Okay.
Someone at Paramount saw an early cut of Raiders of the Lost Ark and said he was confused as to how Nazis had regained control of Germany.
That would have to be explained somehow in the movie.
We fixed that by adding 1936 on the screen in the very first scene.
Movie magic.
This is all very interesting.
No, it's not.
After reviewing an early cut of regarding Henry, one studio exec was very confused.
He didn't understand how an animal was the main character or how cartoons and humans could interact.
Turns out he saw a cut of who framed Roger Rabbit by accident.
So we fixed that by showing him regarding Henry, but, you know, for real this time.
Hey, Harrison, these stories beggar belief.
No, they don't.
How can people who make movies be so dense?
Jimmy, this is Hollywood.
We are very stoned and confused all the time.
How does anything get done in Hollywood if everybody's so hopped up on the goofballs?
I have no idea, man.
I show up terminally baked and other absolutely charred people.
Point where I need to stand and tell me what I need to say.
And then they take all the film and give it to smart, sober women to add it together into something that makes sense.
That's pretty amazing, Harrison.
Yeah.
Then tragically hammered studio execs sit down with Martinis and watch what we've done and give notes that they think make sense.
The only one of my films they didn't do that for was Hollywood Homicide.
They said, my God, this is perfect.
The perfect piece of art.
Well, what are you working on next?
Well, as you may have heard, I'm starting pre-production on the fifth Indiana Jones movie.
I'm looking forward to the notes we're going to get on that.
I bet you are.
I bet.
There's going to be a fuck ton of notes.
Yes, there is.
What the fuck is going on?
Why did you make this?
Why is that thing so important?
It's going to be a fucking disaster.
Anyway, I got to go.
I got to get more stoned.
Stoneder.
Establishment media sucks, all gaslighting, so good luck.
Bullshit we can't afford, like fomenting this.
Watch and see as it's jacked off the median speeds and jumps the medium and hits them head on.
It's the Chimitor Show.
Music So let's get to this because this happened.
This is from Human Rights Watch Watcher, our good friend.
He said out of Zoom.
This is what AOC said about Joe Biden on this Zoom call.
Here we go.
One thing that I will say is that I do think that the Biden administration and President Biden has definitely exceeded expectations that progressives had.
You know, I'll be frank.
I think she's going to be frank.
And whenever someone says, when a politician says, I'm going to be frank, and they scratch their nose at the same time, there is some bullshit coming your way.
And he has, I think Joe Biden has exceeded expectations.
Halliburtons, come on.
Here we go.
Here's what she has to say.
A lot of us expected a much more conservative administration.
And I think that his not only what has ultimately come out, but the active invitation and willingness and collaboration with progressives in his first 100 days or almost 100 days has been very impressive.
And so while there are very, you know, there are areas where there are just plain areas of disagreement.
I think that the actual conduct of the administration has absolutely been in good faith, but not just in good faith, but active incorporation of progressive legislation.
And also for those of us individually, I can at least say that there has been a lot of openness and willingness and flexibility in incorporating many of our goals, requests, et cetera.
She doesn't name them.
And I think that it has been to the benefit of the country.
Like what?
She doesn't name one thing.
They've been open and flexible.
He won't even implement the stuff they ran on.
He's not giving you a public option.
He's not giving you a $15 minimum wage.
They are increasing the military budget by $20 billion, which could have ended homelessness, by the way.
$20 billion is all it takes to end homelessness.
We decided to give it to Halliburton instead.
I'll bring in Justin Jackson.
What do you mean?
But what I said was if I could write that funny, I'd be famous.
What do you say about it, Justin?
I mean, first off, I'd say speak for yourself, right?
I mean, if we're talking about the progressives and we're speaking as progressives as a whole, obviously she hasn't been paying attention to progressive left media because we've been screaming about how he has been, you know, grossly.
I mean, if you just talk about minimum wage, right?
Like that was the one concession that progressives got during the campaign.
He didn't even do that.
He didn't even fight for that.
Actually, he actively pretty much tanked it all by himself.
So who is this for?
Like, who is this helping?
And it was weird because she also went out of her way to say it, right?
She was saying, you know, and I'll say, and then she went on to say that he exceeded expectations.
It doesn't seem like she was prompted to say that.
So this just goes back to this idea that because he's talking to you, because he'll, you know, his, what is it?
Chief of staff is incorporating you in some type of talks.
that's the bar we're sitting at as a progressive movement.
Because I didn't think that they ran on that they were just going to get Joe Biden and the corporate Democrats to talk to them, to let them speak and listen to them.
That's it.
I didn't know that's what they ran on.
If that's what they were running on, they should have been upfront about that.
And then we wouldn't have given our money and time and platforms to them if that's all they were going to be in there standing for.
And this is a long trend, too, right?
Because remember, Pramila Jayapal was saying she doesn't want to be an oppositional force within the party.
She wants to be a propositional force.
AKA, they want to propose good things and frame things well.
And if it doesn't get passed, well, we proposed it.
We did our job.
That's what Ilhan Omar said on that on the MSNBC interview.
Well, we propose it.
We put it in the bill.
Okay, but it didn't pass.
Those people don't have a minimum wage.
It's not there.
Well, we did what we could.
And, you know, if that's what all y'all were going to do, y'all should have been up front about that before we spent all this time, money, and effort into getting y'all in there.
So I'll just want to go through it really quickly.
She says that Biden has exceeded progressives' expectations.
Well, he certainly exceeded the fracking lobby's expectations.
Biden issues dozens of oil drilling permits in the first few days.
So there you go.
There's that.
He's also exceeded the expectations of the for-profit prison industry.
Biden looks to extend Trump's bolstered mandatory minimum drug sentencing.
What in the F?
After a whole summer of protests, this is what he, the guy who wrote the crime bill, black people came out and made sure he got elected.
This is what he's doing.
Biden wants to spend even more on defense than Trump.
So he's exceeding the expectations of Raytheon.
Isn't that nice?
Isn't that nice?
Here is Biden also refuses to shut down Dakota access pipeline.
So he's exceeding the expectations of the oil companies.
Isn't that nice?
That's very nice.
Biden's opening a second camp in Texas to hold 500 migrant children after reopening a Trump-era facility.
So he's exceeding the expectations of people of the, what is it called?
The carceral industrial complex, carceral.
Biden administration resuming border wall construction.
Joe Biden is literally building the wall.
He's exceeding the expectations of the people who wanted to build a wall.
He's not only building the wall, he's confiscating people's private property in homes, which is an outrage.
And he's taking their property to build a wall.
Biden White House puts its police oversight commission on ice.
Jesus Christ.
Biden's Venezuela policy, continuity with Trump.
Biden administration urges Supreme Court to let cops enter homes and seize guns without a warrant.
Boy, can't see that backfiring.
U.S. warns Iran it won't lift all Trump's era sanctions to return or return to the nuclear deal.
Wow.
There you go.
Haitian deportations soar as Biden administration deploys Trump era health order.
So he's exceeding the expectations, just not of progressives.
He's exceeding everybody's.
Biden set to accept the fewest refugees of any modern president, including Trump.
Now, remember the executive producer of The Simpsons berated people on Twitter because if you didn't vote for him, he was using the immigrants.
You don't care about Mexicans and immigrants.
Well, obviously, Dana Gould, the executive producer of The Simpsons, doesn't give a shit about them either because he's not talking about them now, and it's worse for them now.
But now it would take courage to talk about it, which is something Dana Gould, the executive producer of The Simpsons, does not have, which is why The Simpsons are irrelevant culturally right now.
Guess what show isn't?
This one.
Breaking news, the Biden administration will keep its cap on refugee admissions at the low level set by the Trump White House, walking back an earlier pledge.
Wow.
So again, just as big as shittier than Trump.
And I tried to warn people, you know, Trump wasn't as bad for immigrants as Barack Obama and Joe Biden.
You better be careful what you wish for.
Well, they got it.
Next White House plan now exceeded, expected to include $200 billion to extend enhanced affordable care.
So that's Obamacare.
So instead of giving us a public option of Medicare for all, they're spending $200 million to give right to private insurance companies.
Last minute change meets Pelosi's demand as a plan remains in flux and rejects calls of Sanders and other Democrats to expand Medicare.
Pregription, prescription drug overhaul, out.
The prescription drug overhaul, out.
Not doing that.
Nancy Pelosi.
Jimmy, Jimmy.
I remember during Force the Vote when Pramila Jayapal went on Marianne Williamson's program and said actually forcing a vote on Medicare for all and fighting for it would end the fight for Medicare for all.
She said that.
And the reason that she was more confident in her plan was because Joe Biden made commitments to her in their task forces.
So that, but commitments on what?
The public option.
He said it would be administered by some type of public program and not private companies, et cetera, et cetera.
All these commitments.
She had three pages full of commitments.
And at the first, well, really not the first point because that was the COVID relief bill.
But at the second inflection point, what is he going to do?
He's going to give more money to these for-profit health insurance companies, continue to expand ACA, which is just an incredibly wasteful program, instead of expanding Medicare.
And what are the progressives in Congress and the Senate going to do about it?
Well, they just sent him another nicely worded letter.
Yes.
And that's all they're going to do.
And that's all they're going to do.
Well, again, here's Walter Bragg, Walker Brackman, pointing out that it's gotten even worse under Joe Biden for the immigrants.
Black Lives Matter says Joe Biden is currently sending more military equipment to our neighborhoods than Trump did.
You read that right.
Our communities are being terrorized at a greater rate than they had been under Trump.
I tried to warn people about this.
I tried to warn people about this.
People don't care.
The Biden administration still maintains that AOC called concentration camps during the Trump years.
They're worse than ever.
They bombed Syria, are pursuing confrontation with Russia and doing as little for Palestinians as ever.
But AOC is here to say, looking good.
Jordan Sheridan says if AOC thinks Joe Biden has exceeded expectations after abandoning the $15 minimum wage, abandoning $2,000 checks, doing nothing on health care during a pandemic, she needs to reevaluate her expectations.
When Biden refused to raise The minimum wage.
That was absolutely in good faith.
Love it because she's saying he's acting in good faith.
Ben Norton says what AOC won't mention in the Biden administration is his push for a coup in Venezuela, continued his war in Yemen, support for right-wing dictator in Haiti, military occupation of Syria's oil and wheat-rich territory, murderous sanctions around the world, and escalation of a new Cold War with China and Russia.
The situation is dire.
AOC was front and center to tell you that you can't force the vote, telling you they have a plan to fight for $15 minimum wage.
Now telling you Biden is doing great.
She has the largest progressive following and she's using her power to pacify her base.
He said nothing would fundamentally change.
Then he raised the military and the police budget.
Hey, maybe we can push the police budget left.
Biden pushed AOC right.
That's what happened, ladies and gentlemen.
Biden pushed AOC right.
It's called the duopoly effect.
The mental gymnastics from AOC stands these next few days defending this will be unbearable.
Well, we're going to talk about Ryan Grimm's defense of this at the intercept coming up in our next segment.
But yes, it has been unbearable.
Stop donating to the Justice Democrats.
It's not rational to fight for politicians who never fight for you.
And until people start telling you to stop donating to AOC, the Justice Democrats, Rashid Talib, Ilhan Omar, Ro Khanna, until people tell you to stop donating to them, they're just bullshitting you.
They're not really trying to pressure them because that's how you pressure them.
Tell your followers, tell the people who watch your show to stop donating to the Justice Democrats.
And until you do that, you're just bullshitting people.
You're not really pressuring them because that's how you leverage, use your leverage, is the power of the purse and your donations at them.
And that's the only thing you can do.
I mean, you never know.
Your money could end up in the hands of the coffers of corporate Democrats who are actually against everything we've been fighting for this entire time, right?
Because that's what AOC did.
She literally sent money to corporate Democrats.
I mean, unbelievable.
These past few strings of events where she's coming on screen and talking about stuff.
I mean, she's just doing horribly.
It's looking worse and worse, to be honest.
We completely have different standards.
My standards and your standards and a lot of the left community standards are completely different than the progressives in Congress.
I mean, there's no relationship there that's similar.
Their expectations and their standards are Joe Biden will talk to us.
He won't ignore us completely.
That's super cucked, but I mean, that is what it is.
And our standards are: is he going to actually pass some legislation that's going to help poor and working class people?
Just the stuff he ran on.
All we want Joe Biden to do is the stuff he ran on.
Right.
Just give us a public op.
Give us a public option on the $15 minimum wage.
Give us the minimum wage.
That can already start, you know, improving this society from the very, very low point it's at right now.
And I just want to keep reminding people, right?
The census just came out.
I'm pretty sure Republicans just gained, or like Republican state just gained some seats and Democratic states lost some seats.
It's not looking good.
Okay.
It's not looking good for 2022.
And when that time comes, it will come.
And those elections happen.
And the Democrats once again lose the House and they're handcuffed and they can't pass any more legislation because the Republicans are going to block everything.
Everyone's going to be like, oh, we wish we should have done more.
What happened?
How did we lose this election?
Why aren't people voting for us?
As they give people a one-time check and maybe a few hundred dollars here and there, and they're still struggling, right?
People are losing their home.
People are losing everything they work for because of a virus.
And the Democrats are going to come in and put band-aids on a bullet wound.
They're going to wonder why people aren't coming out and voting for them, particularly when Republicans are making it even harder to vote in a lot of these states.
Oh, but the Democrats won't talk to Joe Manchin, pressure Joe Manchin, do anything with Joe Manchin to get rid of the filibuster, because at this point, it's the filibuster or all these, all this legislation that they have on my head.
They don't want to get rid of the filibuster, Justin.
That's why they're not getting rid of it.
Joe Biden.
That's a permanent excuse not to actually have to do anything except what their donors want.
So Jeffrey Sachs, who told the truth about the Syrian war on MSNBC, which is how I know everyone at MSNBC knows the truth about it, was invited on the BBC to talk about climate change, except it was the weirdest, most disgusting framing about climate change that I've ever seen.
And so here I'll show you a little bit of it.
This is from the BBC.
As Joe Biden dispatches one of his top team to China, will they have to turn a blind eye to human rights abuses to save the planet?
Will they have to turn a blind eye to human rights abuses to save the planet?
And then they went on this, like a five-minute video package detailing all the accusations of human rights abuses against China against China.
And how could we work with them to stop climate change if China is such a human rights abuser?
Like they made, it was here's so they bring on Jeffrey Sachs and they ask him about climate change and working with the Chinese.
And here's what he says.
The Biden administration has been strongly critical of China's actions on human rights, but engaging on climate change.
Do you see that as a strategy that can actually work?
I'm not sure why BBC started with listing only China's human rights abuses.
What about America's human rights abuses?
The Iraq war, together with the UK, completely illegal and under false pretenses.
The war in Syria, the war in Libya, the continued sanctions against civilian populations in Venezuela and Iran walking away from the Paris climate agreement for the last four years.
Unilateral trade actions that have been deemed illegal by WTO.
So one can make anything one wants, but we have really serious human rights violations by the United States abroad, not to mention an insurrection on January 6th in our own country,
not to mention the continued massive racism, white supremacism, and abuse of incarceration of hundreds of thousands of people in the U.S. Black African-American people of color.
So I think that the whole premise of this story is a little bit odd.
No, but sorry.
I'm looking at the same thing.
If I may, I found the framing of it not what I expected.
I thought we were going to talk about climate change, which we should.
But I think that the idea that there is one party that is so guilty, how can we talk to them is just a strange way to address this issue.
Well, hang on, I'm going to say that.
We have a United States.
If I could come, Jeffrey, I'm hoping we can have a conversation.
And if I could just say, I'm using and I know he doesn't have a mic to drop, but maybe he could have dropped that teapot behind him.
See that teapot?
Could just throw it down.
He's being so polite.
Because I think what he wants to say is like, listen, I have to put up with this bullshit in my country all the time.
That's right.
I have to hear this shit from Joe Scarborough.
What I'm saying back to you here is we're also using the framing of the Biden administration.
We're also talking from the perspective.
Yeah, you're using the framing of the Biden administration.
Maybe that's not the good best framing to use.
You mean the Biden administration that did Iraq, that did Libya, that's currently doing Yemen, that did Syria, that's doing Afghanistan.
Those people, the biggest human rights, the guys who've or what are you talking about?
We're just using their framing.
Why would you use their framing?
Here we go.
Of how Joe Biden himself and those around him have talked about the human rights abuses in China.
So, you know, sorry, just a lot of people.
Excuse me for one moment.
The U.S. always attacks other countries.
It holds itself sacrosanct.
It's really outrageous because I know what goes on in American foreign policy and I know how abusive it is.
And I know what it's like to live in a racist society, which I happen to do.
So this guy is from Columbia University.
How is it that he tells the truth like this?
How does that happen?
How do they get a guy from Columbia University to be this?
Come on, how the hell is a guy this honest still working for Columbia University?
How could that possibly be?
That is a CIA-infiltrated place, man.
Columbia University.
Are you kidding me?
Here we go.
I mean, you just heard from Tengna saying it from his point of view and also his experience.
What's going on that so they went to this guy?
So after he was on talking, they throw to this guy who's a propagandist.
He's talking about how he was persecuted by the Chinese government.
I bet he's working for Gary Kasparov and Health or Thor Helverson.
And he's there to talk about their human rights abuses instead of talk about climate change.
He's there to talk about their human rights abuses.
Why don't you have Edward Snowden on?
Why don't you have right now?
Why don't you have Julian Assange on BBC?
Because that's a human rights abuse.
We're torturing a journalist for exposing the United States war crimes.
Not China, but the United States.
That's what you guys do to people who expose them.
Now this guy's exposing China, but you bring him out as a guest.
Why don't you have Julian Assange on?
Here we go.
You shouldn't be equating the two, but on that bigger point, which is what you came on to talk about predominantly, the environment and climate change, Tang's saying that the Chinese authorities do not care about it.
So this guy just said the Chinese don't care about climate change.
As if the United.
Watch what he says.
Watch what he says.
I find this discussion absolutely bizarre.
By bizarre, what he means is fucked up and racist.
That's what he means by bizarre.
Shall we talk about the U.S. dropping bombs and flying U.S. warplanes over Yemen, creating mass destruction right now?
Shall we talk about how many people have died in Iraq because of the U.S. illegal actions?
There are so many wonderful, important things to talk about.
They really are.
Sorry, I did just ask you about the ability to do that.
I know, but this is such a strange framing.
Of course, China abides by treaties.
The United States walked out of most of the treaties recently.
The United States walked out of the Iran treaty that was approved by the UN Security Council and the UN member states and then unilaterally imposed sanctions on the civilian population of Iran to bring as much suffering as possible.
That is an absolute abuse.
Just so you know, the United States military produces more greenhouse gases than 140 countries combined.
Just so you know, there's 140 countries.
The U.S. pollutes more than 140 countries combined.
You can't find climate change.
You cannot fight climate change without dismantling the United States military-industrial complex.
The U.S. military alone pollutes more than 140 countries combined.
Well, and all the corporations that we allow to just roam, you know, without any types of protections whatsoever.
I mean, they're some of the biggest polluters in the world, too.
And they're able to do what they do largely because of the free reign they get in the United States.
By the way, how about we have depleted uranium weapons?
How about that?
Depleted uranium.
Which is a war crime.
Which is a war crime.
Depleted uranium weapons pollute the earth so badly, they lead to birth defects for generations.
But let's not talk about that on the BBC, shall we?
Because they're complicit.
Is that you know, the United States supplied white phosphorus mortars that have been used in Yemen?
White phosphorus, which is also a war crime, burns to the bone and causes chronic pulmonary problems.
That's what the United States is doing to the poorest people in the world.
Anyway, there you go.
And there's the BBC getting a dress down from an actual guy who has an actual conscience who doesn't pretend that the United States isn't the biggest human rights abuser in the world because we are.
We're the world's, you know, we imprison more people than China.
We're the world's largest penal colony.
No other country does to their people what we do to our people.
There's no, nobody else is in the streets shooting a thousand of their own people in broad daylight, shooting 13-year-olds, 15-year-olds, 19-year-olds for a traffic violation get killed.
There's no other country that does the shit that we're doing.
Hey, President Joe Biden's calling.
Hello.
Hey, man.
It's me, Joe, Joe Biden.
Remember last week when I called you on my 89th day as president and went through all the amazing stuff we accomplished in that time?
Well, today's my 100th day.
That means I got 11 or 12 more days of amazing stuff to tell you about.
That sounds great, Joe.
I know.
I'm confident this first 100 days will be the best first 100 days I've ever had.
First, let's go through the list of stuff that already happened.
Number one, kids are still in cages.
Number two, still no public option.
Number three, still no $15 minimum wage.
Number four, no $2,000 checks.
Number five, no student debt cancellation.
And number six, I got all the numbers right.
So then what have you accomplished?
We bombed Syria.
That's real multitasking.
Takes a lot of effort to bomb a country while you're doing, while you're not doing all that other stuff.
Get real, man.
But you still have kids in cages, Joe.
Okay, look, while technically minors and mostly 16, 17-year-old males.
How do I know that?
Do the hair test, man.
Do the hair test.
If they got hair on their legs like Cornbop did, then they ain't kids.
Read the Constitution.
That's pretty harsh, Joe.
I'm your president.
I'm not just your president.
I'm everybody's president.
You know what I mean?
I'm every guy there is.
I feel your pain.
Even though I can't feel my feet anymore, but I feel stuff.
And guess what?
What?
My first hundred days are up, and I'm announcing my official new max guidance guidelines for the future of our present and the future.
It's time to kind of take off your max under certain conditions.
But it's not just me saying it.
It is centaurs for disease control and dispension.
We're saying it too.
That's exciting.
What are the new mask guidelines?
Number one, stop eating them.
I didn't know that was a big problem.
That's because you can't see them once they get stuck down there.
Number two, you don't need to wear them over your ears anymore.
Number three, wearing them under your nose does not mean you'll get only a 50% infection.
Number four, stop putting them on dogs and puppets.
May have been funny the first month of the pandemic, but now it's just annoying as shit.
And number five, I can't believe I got the number thing right again.
Are there any new guidelines, Joe?
Yes, small groups of vaccinated people in restaurants can now eat Alfredo.
No, you mean, I'm saying they can now eat Fettuccine smothered in a heavy cream of grated cheese and melted butter, you idiot.
Will you please stop?
And does that apply only to small groups of vaccinated people inside or just outside?
Yes, it does.
I hope that clears up any confusion.
And don't forget to follow the color-coded warning chart in your area if you have an area.
We're getting back closer to normal now, soon, better.
Bye for now.
God bless our troops in Russia.
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So George Bush is on a book tour and he's being rehabilitated.
Of course, you have to remember he's a war criminal who ordered a torture program and led us into a war.
They got millions people killed.
So he's literally whatever pit of hell there is, he'd be at the bottom.
He'd be down there with Stalin and all the poll pot.
And you know.
Yeah, and if you think he'd be in a different realm, you are misunderestimating him.
That's right.
So here it is from the insider.
Kelly McLaughlin writes on April 20th, George W. Bush said he's troubled by the capacity of people to spread all kinds of untruths.
It looks like he's having trouble keeping a straight face saying that, doesn't it?
That's what that looks like.
Oh, that wacky W with his untruthiness.
Don't we all miss the kinder, gentler days of brush clearing malapropisms?
I know I do.
Hey, Bush lied and millions died.
Do you remember that saying?
Because I remember that one, but I guess I thought that was a little hole.
I had it on a t-shirt.
That was Ron.
That's divisive.
Do you think so?
With the question I asked, do you think George Bush would have lost his Twitter account over the WMD's lie or for orchestrating a torture program?
Never a price to pay when you lie for the war and for the establishment.
So it's good to see that people still appreciate a tweet like that.
That's nice.
In fact, it's even better when there's never a price to pay when you lie for war in the establishment.
In fact, it's better than that.
You actually get paid when you lie for the establishment and when you lie for war.
It's easy money.
You never have to ask for a promotion.
Just lie with a straight face and you'll move up the ladder effortlessly.
Look at Brian Williams.
Look at Rachel Meadow.
Actually, in fairness to Brian Williams, he dodged a lot of fire while climbing that ladder.
He did.
There was.
In fairness.
Here's George Bush on the telly.
Well, okay, if you were to describe the Republican Party as you see it today, how would you describe it?
I would describe it as isolationist, protectionist, and to a certain extent, negativist.
Are you disappointed?
Well, it's not exactly my vision.
But you know what?
I'm just an old.
Ron, come on.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, they weren't isolationists when you were running the show.
This whole thing was we're not going to even talk to other countries unless they already agree to all these, unless they agree to our negotiations.
Unless they already agree.
You're with us or you're with the terrorists.
That's right.
You're with us or you're against us.
They wouldn't meet with anybody.
I mean, that administration, and the only reason I say that administration is because we all know.
I mean, you know, Dick Chady was pulling the strings and Rumsfeld and that entire crew of just evil psychopaths.
They reset the bar on what it means to be an isolationist.
Not exactly my vision.
George Bush has a vision.
George Bush has a vision.
He sounds like a guy with a man with a plan, doesn't he, Ron?
Man with a plan.
He's so confident.
And you know, people admire leaders with confidence.
What's past his past?
We should just listen to him, I guess.
I guess we should just listen to him.
Well, the plan, and it wasn't necessarily just his, but the plan was the new American century, which was a total freaking disaster that we're still suffering from.
I mean, it put the war machine in motion.
He's just a simple war criminal painter, Ron.
I wasn't taking his art into consideration.
And so here he is getting the cushy.
George Bush, let's do a little more.
George Bush, a known war criminal, a known war criminal, is getting the cushy celebrity treatment from the establishment news media.
Meanwhile, Leonard Peltier, who was convicted of killing two people, Peltier maintains his innocence and that there are egregious holes in that case.
He sat in a prison cell for four decades.
He's a painter, too, in case you thought there was ever any justice.
Just letting you know.
Here we go.
You know, what's really troubling is how much misinformation there is in the capacity of people to spread all kinds of untruth.
Yeah.
And yeah.
I don't know what we're going to do about that.
Your administration facts talking points to cable news networks.
Your administration did that.
Does anyone was I were we the only people around then was it like I didn't know you back then, but were we the only people who remember that there is that movie where there's uh I forget what it's called and I feel bad because it's a really fun neat movie, but it's uh this guy there's this weird power outage and then this guy wakes up in a world where the Beatles never happen.
Yeah, I remember that movie that's a great movie.
It's a really fun movie.
Sometimes I feel like I woke up in a world and I've been here for a long time where like me and five other people remember the Bush administration and nobody else does.
It's like, remember all the terrible.
No, he's a nice guy now.
And when he when he when he, you know, when he, you know, he's not from Texas, but he speaks with a Texas accent.
He's the only one in his family who does.
And he invented that as a grown-up to make himself seem more folksy.
And whenever he's lying, he ramps it up extra hard.
Watch how hard his accent is here.
And that's how you know he's lying.
Watch.
You know, what's really troubling is how much misinformation there is in the capacity of people to spread all kinds of untruth.
Yeah.
And I don't know what we're going to do about that.
I know what I'm doing about it.
I don't.
I know what we're going to do about Dayton.
I don't know what we're going to do about Dayton.
I know I'm going to do about Dayton.
How about when he said the word untruth?
He smiled like he just invented it.
Untruth.
What do you think about that word?
Did you see what he's fucking crazy?
Yeah.
Watch how he's so proud he says untruth.
I got to play together.
What's really troubling is how much misinformation there is in the capacity of people to honest to God.
That's like Chris Christie going, you know what the problem is?
The people who spend so much time at the buffets, I mean, it's troubling.
I don't know what we're going to do about that.
I know I'm going to do about that.
I'm going to elbow them out.
This guy's the biggest liar in the history of liars.
You know, what's really troubling is how much misinformation there is in the capacity of people to spread all kinds of untruth.
Yeah.
And I think he's smiling because he's managed to finish the sentence.
Yeah.
I don't think he thought he was going to make it through that one, but he did.
He did.
Untruth.
I'm doing about it.
I don't do Twitter, Facebook, or any of that stuff.
You're off of it all.
No.
You've never done it.
He's not on Twitter, Facebook, or any of that.
That's her hard-hitting question, by the way.
You've never done it.
That's her big, hard-hitting question.
Oh, you're not on Facebook.
He just lied about lying.
And you're like, but you're not on Facebook.
You're not on Twitter.
That's not that bad stuff.
I'm not surprised George Bush isn't on Twitter and Facebook.
There's reading involved with those things.
He never said he wasn't on Instagram.
No.
That's the establishment media, ladies and gentlemen.
How many serious adult journalists?
Here we go.
George Bush.
No, really, George.
W. Bush lied about the WMDs.
There it is.
The day I realized I would never find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
There it is.
It's in the New York Times magazine.
Here we go.
You saw the assault on the Capitol on January 6th.
Yeah, it made me sick.
Just like that.
So we're going to turn this up and play it again.
Ready?
You saw the assault on the Capitol on January 6th.
Yeah, it made me sick.
Just like that.
Couldn't believe it.
Neither could you.
Most Americans are sitting there going, what the hell's going on?
You know?
And it was a terrible moment in our history.
And it's going to be a part of our history.
I've been watching all the prosecutions and stuff.
And, you know, I think people deserve to be busted.
And it looks like the government's going after them.
And people deserve to be busted.
Just like when we invaded Iraq for no reason.
You mean like that?
That people need to be busted.
Wow.
I'm not going to cast blame.
I know what your next question is.
I'm going to let it go.
But it was disgusting.
Why not cast blame?
You know, you're trying to guess the motivations of, you know, riled up people.
History's going to assess the blame when time goes on.
History.
More data coming out.
More data.
Here we are, 20 years after he lied us into a war.
What is history doing to this guy?
They're giving him softball interviews.
They're rehabilitating a legit war criminal, a guy.
They used to do articles about we've done.
I remember they would do it now.
We documented 918 falsifiable lies by the Bush administration.
900.
Remember that?
Yeah, I remember that.
And now because of Donald Trump, somehow George Bush is Santa Claus.
Yeah.
Well, it's just, I mean, it's like the term that Gore Vidal is famous for, the United States of Amnesia.
And, you know, I think it's the funny part, too, is when people justify this stuff because of their just, you know, they were just so upset by Donald Trump that they're just like, oh, well, well, George W. Bush is fine because at least he talked nice and Donald Trump didn't talk nice.
Well, what are you going to say when they rehabilitate Donald Trump?
Because that's going to happen too.
And what's going to happen is you're just going to forget this conversation ever happened.
Because they're for sure, I mean, that's just going to happen.
Like, Donald Trump was a media creation out the gate.
He's a media mogul.
That's what he was.
And that's what he was throughout his presidency.
They loved him.
He was good for ratings.
He's going to be rehabilitated.
It's only a matter of time.
My guess is 2022.
So what are you going to say then?
As soon as, yeah, I mean, as soon as somebody wants a rating, they're going to have Donald Trump.
I bet you Saturday Night Live brings him back on.
They brought him on before the election.
Remember when Saturday Night Live brought on Donald Trump?
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, my guess is 2022, but I wouldn't be shocked if it was even before that.
Here we go.
Some more of this.
One thing is for certain.
It's just a sorry chapter.
Sorry moment.
Really sorry.
This sends a signal to the world.
Sorry was his word that week.
And this book says we are different.
And he plugs his book.
He plugs his fuck.
We are a caricature of a society, folks.
Yeah, that was really lame.
Anyway, my book.
Oh my God.
And just remember, George Bush is going to...
So just so you know, here's the number of documented civilian deaths in the Iraq war from 2003 to March.
Look, do you see all these millions of people dead?
Yeah.
You see all these people?
30,000, 26,000, 16,000, 10,000, 9,000.
Look at all the 20,000 again.
It bumps up 20,000.
These are how many people a year they're killing that they'll admit to.
That they will admit to.
And just so you know, that George Bush will go to his grave being invited to the finest parties.
Meanwhile, Ralph Nader is still going to die at Pariah.
So when they say that they hated Ralph Nader for giving us George Bush, that was a lie.
What they hated us, what they hated Ralph Nader for was the fact that he put a dent in the Democratic Party in the Duopolis control of power.
That's what they hated him for.
They fucked up the Democrats' chance to win.
It wasn't that they gave us George Bush because they love George Bush.
They love him.
And somehow all the Democrats who voted for George Bush still aren't to blame.
300,000 Democrats voted for George Bush in Florida.
Yeah, so somehow they're not the problem.
But the people who voted for Nader, many of whom would not have voted otherwise at all, would not have voted at all.
Somehow they're, yeah, I know.
Well, here we go.
Here's bringing George W. Bush to justice.
It's the international obligations of states to which former U.S. President George W. Bush may travel.
That's from Amnesty International.
Is that why George Bush doesn't travel?
Acts of torture were committed against detainees held in secret detention program operated by the CIA.
The CIA established its secret detention program under the authorization of George Bush.
Former President George Bush himself stated that he authorized the use of waterboarding against identified individuals.
Torture and other ill-treatment, as well as enforced disappearance by U.S. forces, also occurred with the CIA's interrogation and detention program, including against individuals detained in military custody at the U.S. Naval Base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and in Iraq and Afghanistan.
George W. Bush was commander-in-chief of the U.S. Armed Forces when they committed crimes under international law.
The Bush administration initially chose to adopt the position that the president was essentially unconfined by the international or statutory law in determining the USA's response to the attacks on September 11th.
George W. Bush specifically decided the protections of the Geneva Conventions of 1949, including their common Article 3, would not be applied to the Taliban or the Al-Qaeda detainees.
Oh, gee, shucks, was that me?
I'm sorry.
Buy my book.
As commander-in-chief, George W. Bush failed to take responsibility and necessary measures to prevent and suppress the commission of crimes against detainees under international law.
The U.S. has failed to conduct criminal investigations capable of reaching George W. Bush, and all indications are that it will not do so.
The obligations of states to arrest and investigate and prosecute are extremely.
Okay.
You want to hear some of his comedy?
those weapons of mass destruction got to be somewhere Nope, no weapons over there.
Maybe under here.
Wow.
Isn't it amazing that he's killing doing that stuff?
He's killing.
He's killing.
Guess who's in the audience, Ron?
Well, all the correspondents.
Journalists.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's the correspondents.
Well, that's what I was going to like.
He's like having a great set doing that.
Meanwhile, when Stephen Colbert, back in the day, the Stephen Colbert from the past did that thing in 2006, it was silence.
Silence.
So actual comedy gets silenced.
But when you make fun of lying a country into illegal war, giggles are plenty from the American corporate news media.
Yeah.
When you joke about doing it, that's fine.
When you joke about calling the person out who did it, that's not funny.
Wow.
Got to love those pro-manufacturing war consent on war jokes.
Those are great.
Boy, we'd hate to send a message to the world that we're different.
Anyway, there you go.
That's George W. F. and Bush telling pro-war jokes, pro-lying us into illegal war jokes to the American corporate news media, and they're laughing their ass off.
And now you know why this show exists.
So Corey Bush.
So, you know, the big problem is that Force to Vote revealed that when we all organized, we all donated, we all raised consciousness, and we got a bunch of progressives elected to Congress called the Justice Democrats.
They're supposed to work as a block, just like the Freedom Caucus did, the Tea Party Freedom Caucus did.
And I know they were supposed to do that because Kyle Kalinske, who founded the Justice Democrats, said so.
And I showed you that last week on the show, that he said the whole point of the Justice Democrats, and I know because I founded it, was they vote as a block and use their, and they're not doing that.
And it's gotten so bad, Ron, that even CNN has noticed.
So I noticed with Force to Vote, and now it seems like everyone, even CNN, watch this, Corey Bush, Corey Bush goes on CNN, and watch what CNN does.
Senate, Senator Joe Manchin from West Virginia has essentially used what seems to be a veto power against a lot of progressive priorities, including some of the ones that you've mentioned.
But in the House, Democrats have this two-seat majority.
There are six members of the squad of which you are a part.
What's stopping you from flexing that same power for your agenda?
You just said you would vote against a compromise on qualified immunity.
Are you prepared and the rest of the squad prepared to use that kind of veto power that you have if you vote as a block?
You know, I'm prepared to do whatever is needed to make sure that we, you know, that we, that our agenda moves forward.
But I can't speak for the rest of the squad members.
At the end of the day, my sister Ayana Ayana Presley says it all the time.
You vote alone and you're voting for your districts.
So you're voting for the people who voted you in.
You're voting for their needs and their values.
So you're outnumbered, but you have leverage if you vote together as a block and you won't even band together to use your leverage and vote as a block.
Well, that's reassuring.
That is reassuring.
She won't even, and so here is Marianne Williamson calls bullshit.
She says, I don't get the you vote alone comment.
They're not willing to vote as a block and exert that power that comes from that.
No, Marianne.
And this is what's been going on since Force the Vote.
We highlighted this starting last November that they're not going to do this.
And I knew they weren't going to do it because if they were going to do it, they would have brought it up instead of letting a pothead podcaster come up with it.
It wasn't like I'm some kind.
They knew that they had the votes.
They all have staffs of 20.
You don't think there's somebody like, hey, why don't we use our Politics 101?
Nobody, of course they did.
They're not going to do it on purpose.
And Marion Williamson still doesn't understand that they're not going to do it on purpose.
It's not an accident, but I appreciate her saying that.
That's super good.
And by the way, you're not the one who isn't understanding marion williamson when she says i don't get it no you get it it's okay so we all voted individual to re-up pelosi as speaker yeah that's worse so that's she's just saying yeah instead of voting as a block we all voted individually we all voted individually to re-up Pelosi as speaker.
That's worse.
We didn't strategize at all.
And we just all individually expressed poor judgment.
We didn't strategize or vote as a block.
We didn't do any of that stuff.
You know the reason we were sent here?
We're not doing it.
What it means is they haven't, nor do they plan on, getting together as a block to fight for anything.
They've shown no signs of it so far.
They make cheerleading, cheerleader tweets, but there is no action.
Tweeting is as far as they will go and as far as doing something.
I'm glad we can all stop pretending now.
There is no squad.
It's just a dead phrase.
That is exactly right.
The whole purpose of having a group is to use the power of the group to push through policies that they all ran on and agreed needed to happen to help people who put them in office.
Corey Bush just confirmed that the squad has zero strategy.
Wow.
They are completely useless.
No, they're useless to us, but they're very useful to the Democratic corporate party because it keeps people from starting a third party outside the Democratic corporate party and actually challenging power.
That's what the Justice Democrats are actually doing.
The Justice Democrats are actually there thwarting real opposition to the establishment.
They're there to sheepdog progressive energy back into a pro-war Wall Street, pro-Wall Street party and never fight for anything.
And that's what's happening.
The Justice Democrats, it should be easy as fucking pie.
They should be running the show right now in D.C. Kyle Kalinsky set this up perfect.
They're not doing it.
They won't do it.
Kyle did not see that coming.
I understand.
I totally wanted it to work too.
It didn't work.
It's been an abject failure.
The Justice Democrats are 100% fail.
And it doesn't bring me any joy to say that.
I'd much rather be sitting here talking about how Joe Biden has to capitulate because the squad has the leverage to get the $15 minimum wage.
They have the leverage to make Joe Biden give us $20 billion in student debt relief instead of $20 billion going to the military.
They have the power to do that.
I'd much rather be covering those stories.
Lord help me.
Why do corporate Democrats and conservative Democrats have no problem using their power, yet progressives never do?
They won't form a block and do anything ever, ever, ever, never.
Then they demand I keep voting for them.
Well, see, right, you got to stop voting for them.
I stopped voting for them.
And you got to stop donating to them.
So I'm just waiting for that day when Jenk Uger starts telling people to stop donating to the Justice Democrats.
I can't wait for that day.
I'm going to guess it will never happen because that would make him a bad boy.
Because if Jenk Uger told you to actually exert your influence over the Justice Democrats, that would make him a bad boy.
And they'd make him resign from the Justice Democrats a second time.
And he would do it.
He would tuck his tail and resign because that's who Jenk Uger is.
He doesn't fight.
We need more leverage.
Yeah, but you don't use the leverage you have now.
Shh, stop being so divisive.
That's it.
That's all they say.
We need more leverage.
Yeah, but you're not using the leverage you have now.
That's divisive.
Yeah, it's pretty awesome that the only people that are supposed to fight for working people in government, they have the strategy of a George Thoroughgood song.
Like, some people want minimum wage.
Some people want health care, but I vote alone with nobody else.
And you know, when I'm all alone, I prefer to be by myself.
That's great.
Wonderful.
It's undeniable at this point, LOL, we have no allies on the inside.
It's undeniable.
And I watched my friend Kyle Kalinsky.
It's ripping his heart out.
And I actually feel for him.
I'm not kidding.
It rips my heart out.
I don't want to see this happen.
Jenk Uger, sorry, but this is not right.
You can't.
So he's retweeting Corey Bush saying that.
This is Jenk Uger, the guy who was lying about Force to Vote, said it would go to the McCarthy as speaker, trashed my character, trashed the character of other people pushing Force to Vote.
This is Jake.
Now, Jake Uger, when the moment is passed, now Jake Uger says, sorry, but this is not right.
You can vote as a block to have more leverage.
Either progressives in Congress don't know that, which is embarrassing, or they're, why would you even bother to put that?
Either they don't know, they don't know that.
They don't know that five months after Force the Vote started.
They don't know.
Of course they'd know.
Why would you even bother to put that?
Either they don't know that, which is embarrassing.
Of course they know that.
Now the answer is, why won't they do it?
Why wouldn't you ever even fucking act, he says, which is embarrassing, or they've chosen to not use their leverage.
I really wish that were, why have they chosen not to?
That's the question, Jank.
Why did you choose not to push them to use their leverage when the moment came?
That's the bigger question.
Why did you not push them?
Why are you trying to pretend like you're for pushing them now?
And I just retweeted that.
By the way, even his own followers, they hated that tweet.
It got 630 likes.
That's it.
That was it.
I retweeted it.
It got over 2,000.
Just me saying, ha ha.
Just me saying what a fucking idiot, obvious idiot he is.
Jim Earl, Emmy Award-winning comedy writer Jim Earl says, you're like the Carlos Mancia of thieving political hacks to Jenk Uger.
Finally give Dor credit or go on tour with Carrotop.
I like that one.
It's so funny how everyone on your network can't say the words force and vote too close together in a sentence.
They're saying that's a Jake Uger.
And here, because here it is, here it almost happened.
You're not actually killing the bill if you vote no.
Because what is Biden going to do?
Drop it?
He's not going to drop it.
That's not a thing that's possible.
You can't drop this.
You can't drop the budget.
You can't drop the defense bill.
Okay.
Those are must-passes.
So what you do is you force when you vote no.
I'll never get tired of playing that.
Ron, anything you want?
I mean, it's just, so now we have Corey Bush going out saying, no, I Vote alone, and we're not going to vote as a blog.
They were not doing the thing you sent us here to do.
Go ahead.
And how mind-blowing is it that even CNN is pointing out you're not using your leverage?
Like even CNN, an organization that really, really benefits if you don't.
And even they're saying, like, hey, just from a news perspective, why aren't you doing anything?
Anything.
I mean, anything.
Anything.
And you mentioned, you know, third party.
I mean, and I know it's a dream world, but imagine if right now at this very moment, every member of the squad was in a different party.
Imagine that.
They'd have no, I mean, they would be reporting directly to we the people, and we the people would be the people pushing them to use their leverage, which they would have to use because they'd have no incentive not to, first of all.
And if they don't, like, well, then the people who got them there aren't behind them, and that's all they have.
They don't have the option of, well, I can either listen to my base or listen to the party.
Imagine if those were people from the Movements for a People's Party that were the squad.
Imagine that.
Sure.
Yeah.
Imagine that.
Imagine if they were Greens.
Imagine if they were from the Socialist Alternative Party.
Imagine if there were six Socialist Alternative Party members or three Moving for a People's Party members that represented everybody in the same class.
They weren't left right.
They represented everybody of the same interest, which means the 99%.
Yeah, totally.
Greens, SPL.
I mean, yeah, just imagine if there was, it'd be much better.
And the idea.
So people say, well, you can't do a third party.
It's too hard.
Well, I'm here to tell you, if you don't do a third party, like if Moving for a People Party doesn't succeed, our country is not going to succeed.
Obviously, electoral politics is over.
They went backwards.
They went from Hillary Clinton to a shittier candidate.
Joe Biden, worse than Hillary Clinton.
Which is remarkable.
Which is remarkable.
So that's why.
So what's the downside of the left doing Russia Gate?
Well, the Democrats got worse.
That's what happened.
They got worse.
Hillary was going to give Medicare to people 50 and over.
Joe Biden's not doing anything.
He won't even give you the public option, which he ran on.
Yeah, so they always love to focus on the reasons you can't do something.
And I'm not saying like a new viable party or even just a viable party is easy.
Of course it is.
Of course it is.
It's a very tall glass of water.
But you know what is also an extremely tall glass of water?
The idea of reforming the Democratic Party.
Yeah.
That is also a very tall glass of water.
So, you know, and all these excuses, well, you know, the founding fathers, they never intended for anything other than a two-party system.
Like, okay, well, they also had slaves and would solve problems by marching 15 paces and then shooting guns at each other.
Maybe they didn't walk on water and it's time to evolve.
I don't know.
Well said, Rob.
You know, I thought I'd call legendary linguist, philosopher, and activist Noam Chomsky to ask about a recent interview where he called Medicare for all candy.
Hello, is this Noam Chomsky?
Yes, this is Noam Chomsky.
Is this Stinky?
No, this isn't Stinky.
Please stop fooling around, Stinky.
Do you have my papers?
Okay, I don't know who Stinky is, Noam, but this is Jimmy Doerr.
I wanted to ask you about your recent interview where you called Medicare for All candy.
Why did you call Medicare for all candy?
Because a goal such as Medicare for All isn't like a pony.
You can just wish for it.
It requires intense organizing.
When have you ever done intense organizing, Noam?
I organized an intense bong party once.
Why?
You seem to go back and forth over what you perceive as the correct type of activism.
You know that, right?
That's because to achieve your goals, it takes on-the-ground organizing, which is impossible.
Why?
Because everybody's high and they can't be on the ground, understand.
Yeah, I got it.
Okay.
Hey, what's your plan of action there, then, Noam?
I prefer a nebulous, ill-defined plan of action.
Yes.
For only when you let go of your target will it suddenly come into view.
Stinky knows what I'm talking about.
Noam.
Okay, yeah.
So you agree with me?
No, I just found my lighter.
Wow, like the saying goes, it's always in the last place you'd expect to find it.
Hey, where was that?
In my hand, next to my stash, next to my bong, next to my bound library of high times magazine, right next to my papers.
Oops.
Oh, they were here all along.
Hey, you know, there's a lot more to that phone call, but we don't have time in today's podcast.
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That's it for this week.
you be the best you can be and I'll keep being me.
Don't freak out!
Don't freak out.
I'm not getting it.
Don't don't.
Don't you don't get it.
Don't freak out.
Do not, do not.
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