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	Get ready for an outstanding entertainment program.
	The Jimmy Dore Show.
	Hey, this is Jimmy.
	Who's this?
	Whoa!
	Hello?
	It is hot outside.
	Who's calling, please?
	Jimmy.
	It's Al Pacino.
	Oh, hello, Al Pacino.
	Why would you possibly be calling me?
	Steph likes it.
	No, you're going to teach me about politics, remember?
	Oh, yeah, that's right.
	I want to be a pundit, a political expert.
	But there's only one problem with that.
	What?
	I don't know anything.
	This does pose a problem.
	So what is going on?
	Well.
	What's with these camels?
	Wait, what?
	One hump or two.
	What, camels?
	Dramedaries.
	Al, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
	What are you talking about?
	It's all over the news.
	Camels coming up Mexico way, south of the border.
	Jimmy Chunker.
	Wait, do you mean...
	Okay, yes.
	People have called these refugees who are trying to seek asylum a caravan.
	Yes.
	Right.
	A caravan is camels.
	Right.
	So it's camels.
	No, it's a group of human beings, Al.
	That would be a crowd.
	A people group is a crowd.
	A camera fan is cameras.
	Well, in this case, it's...
	His name was Tony, and he was a cocksucker.
	They spit, and they don't share any of that word.
	They store in those humps.
	Fuck camels.
	Okay?
	And Debbie Wassum and Schultz tried to bomb everybody.
	No.
	Yes.
	I saw it clear as day on those envelopes.
	No, no.
	The bomber was named Caesar Sojak, and he put her name and address as the return label.
	Wow, are you serious?
	Yes.
	That is mail fraud.
	Highly illegal.
	She's going to get away with that.
	I don't think that's the charge that they're going to.
	I should certainly hope not.
	Al, there were bombs in there.
	Ray.
	You ever seen Blown Away?
	What?
	That movie.
	Jeff Britches.
	Darmy Lee Jones played an IRA terrorist trying to blow everybody the fuck up.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Worst Irish accent I ever heard on film.
	Diamond LJ is one of these guys who refuses the dialect coach at his peril.
	I rely on the coach.
	Oh, yeah?
	Of course.
	I played a Cuban in Scarface.
	Use the dialect coach.
	Played a Puerto Rican in Carlito Sui, dialect coach.
	I played a blind guy once.
	Use the dialect coach just to be safe.
	Wow, that's very interesting, Al.
	Let me tell you something.
	In my business, you cannot afford to issue expertise.
	I see.
	That's why I turned to you about politics.
	Thank you, my friend.
	I feel smarter already just talking to you.
	But I didn't even...
	Hey!
	Go!
	Yes!
	Go!
	It's the Jimmy Dore Show.
	The show for...
	...up-minded, lowly-lovered lapdies.
	The kind of people that are...
	It's the show that makes Anderson Cooper save.
	It's hard to talk to you today.
	And now, here's a guy who sounds a lot like me.
	It's Jimmy Dore.
	Hey, everybody, welcome to this week's Jimmy Dore show.
	Let's get to the jokes before we get to the jokes, shall we?
	Did you hear Hillary Clinton in a recent interview said she still wants to be president?
	But she's not going to think about running until after the midterms.
	You know, she wouldn't want to come across as self-involved or anything like that.
	But Hillary can't focus on running for president now until after the midterms because now she's busy making potential officials less progressive.
	If you're worried she is going to run, remember, we haven't heard from her private position yet.
	I think her campaign, her slogan is going to be Hillary 2020.
	Seriously, we won't stop till you give in.
	And just let me say, today I am wearing a wang designed by Vera Wang.
	Oh, sure, the right wing hates the postal service, but when they need their bombs delivered safely and on time, where's the first play that they go?
	Did you hear about me?
	You heard about Megan Kelly.
	Oh, yeah.
	And she's gone.
	And I got to say, I think we all have to agree that Megyn Kelly is a real credit to her racism.
	laughter
	We sit down before this election with Jill Stein to get her take on the establishment's failings and what really needs to happen in our politics.
	Plus, we talk with journalist Susie Dawson, and she gives us the top 10 lists of WikiLeaks achievements you haven't heard before.
	And also, Edward Snowden's top 10 revelations you may not have heard.
	Plus, we got phone calls today from Al Pacino, Chris Christie, Mitt Romney, and Chucky the Shoe, Chuck Schumer.
	Plus, a lot lot more.
	That's today on the Jimmy Dore Show.
	Oh, Hi, everybody.
	Welcome to Jimmy Dore Show.
	I'm here with Ron Placo and Step Samurano.
	I'm miserable.
	Howdy, howdy.
	And guess what?
	Big breaking news.
	Leaked Netanyahu tape.
	We made Trump Nicks the Iran deal.
	Huh?
	Let's go to the Times of Israel.
	In recording, Netanyahu, Netanyahu, boasts Israel convinced Trump to quit the Iran deal.
	In a video clip aired Tuesday by Israeli television, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu boasted that Israel was responsible for the United States President Donald Trump's decision to quit the Iran nuclear deal.
	In the video, I was there going to be any gay memes of Netanyahu and Trump blowing each other, maybe like they do with Putin and Trump.
	Or hashtag Netanyahu Puppet.
	Oh, maybe.
	He doesn't have the alliteration thing going on.
	No.
	That is.
	In the video which Khan Public broadcaster said was filmed two weeks ago.
	Netanyahu can be seen speaking to activists and senior members of his Likud party.
	We convinced that, quote, this is Netanyahu talking.
	We convinced the U.S. president to exit the deal, and I had to stand up against the whole world and come out against this agreement, Netanyahu said in the video.
	And we didn't give up.
	So no big deal.
	No big deal.
	Why?
	Because I don't know.
	Because Israel has power in America over our politicians.
	I guess that's why.
	Well, is Trump putting America first?
	It doesn't sound like it.
	Doesn't sound like it.
	He's doing the bidding of a foreign nation.
	California traitor, right?
	Sounds like he's being a traitor when he's helping out.
	He's putting Israel in front of us.
	I'm sure most of the people who watch this show get now how propaganda works.
	And we showed you the guy, the editor of the Time magazine who is just a propaganda, who admits to liking propaganda.
	He admits to it.
	Governments do propaganda.
	They're supposed to.
	And he's not against it.
	So I hope you're seeing how this works.
	Well, at the very least, you got to know how scapegoating works.
	I mean, we've had a real-time two-year example for you.
	Yes.
	And counting.
	The establishment is not going to ever, ever accept responsibility for Trump's.
	You think that Lawrence O'Donnell's ever going to come on MSNBC and say, you know, it was really our fault for not covering Bernie Sanders and propping up Trump and showing his empty podium.
	And it was really kind of our fault.
	No.
	They're never going to do that.
	Ever.
	They'll never take responsibility ever.
	Ed Schultz just outed the whole goddamn network for being freaking tools of the corporation and enemies of progressives.
	They've just been outed.
	And none of them have the integrity to say that.
	None of them.
	We're in the situation we are in this country because of people who like like who are supposed to be doing the bidding of the left, like MSNBC.
	And of course they're not.
	They're doing the bidding of corporate America, which is why half the country's poor or low-income.
	63% of Americans can't afford a $1,000 emergency.
	And they talk about Russia 24-7 because they don't give a shit about you.
	They don't give a shit about people who are hurting.
	They don't give a shit.
	You know what they give a shit about?
	$30,000 a day.
	Please keep it coming.
	And I know Lawrence O'Donnell likes to be a fake tough guy.
	He's one of my favorite fake tough guys on TV.
	But he also lacks integrity.
	And he is also a bought tool.
	Well, no one in the establishment will ever have to apologize or backtrack and say they got it wrong either.
	I mean, they've said stuff about, you know, Jill Stein, for instance, that a simple Google search could debunk.
	Yes, she doesn't have a show on RT.
	That's a lie.
	That's simply not true.
	No one's ever apologized for that.
	Never corrected it.
	And they'll never have to.
	If they didn't have to for Iraq, why are they going to have to for this?
	Ah!
	That's the same network, MSNBC, who fires people who tell the truth about the war.
	So now you know how much integrity those people have who are on TV there.
	None.
	None.
	Because if they ever told the truth about the war, they'd be fucking fired.
	They'll never tell you about this either.
	And why isn't this more significant?
	It's a sad time we're living in.
	It does not bring me joy to be right about this.
	It doesn't bring me joy to have to be the one to report on this.
	I would like to be able to point to other people I respect and go, just watch their reporting, but there isn't really anybody.
	This is sad.
	It's sad what's going on.
	I don't even know what to say.
	I mean, here it is.
	This will not, believe me, this will not be the lead story tonight.
	If it gets on the news, it won't get out of the news.
	It's not going to.
	It's not going to get on the news.
	No, it won't.
	It's not going to make it.
	Okay.
	And now you know how propaganda works.
	And now you know who's really controlling Trump.
	Uh-oh, it's Chuck Schumer, Master of the Senate.
	Hello.
	Leave Kevin McCarthy's office alone.
	Leave Kevin McCarthy's office alone.
	Senator Schumer, what are you talking about?
	Vandals, young toughs, marauders.
	They broke into Kevin McCarthy's office and literally shoved items around.
	No words.
	No words.
	The office of House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy.
	No, the honorable majority leader, Kevin McCarthy, to you, mister.
	Make no mistake, despicable acts of violence and harassment are being carried out by radicals across the political spectrum, not just by one side.
	You actually said that?
	Why, of course I did.
	May I continue?
	Thank you.
	Regardless of who is responsible, these acts are wrong and must be condemned by Democrats and Republicans alike.
	Period.
	The same McCarthy who said Jews were funding that immigrant caravan that'll reach our borders in half a year.
	Leave his office alone.
	Oh, my God.
	So you're equating some office vandalism with George Soros and the other Democrats getting bombs in the mail.
	These thieves, these hoodlums, they threw a rock through his office window, Jimmy, in Bakersfield.
	When things like that happen in Bakersfield, you know what they say.
	So goes Bakersfield, so goes the country.
	All I can say is, God help us all.
	My thoughts and prayers go out to the McCarthy family during that time of need.
	But it's not the same.
	This is a false equivalency.
	Oh, dear, dear, dear.
	Jimmy, these bandits, they broke a window.
	And they stole a Xerox machine.
	And then they messed up two piles of campaign photos of Kevin and his family.
	You know, where they show you with your family and your dog outside your home to make it appear like you're not a total psychopath when you are.
	So that's on the same level as the Republican Party's anti-Semitic attacks.
	When we sink to their level, oh my God, the whole country sinks to their level.
	These highwaymen, these banditos.
	I understand the frustration of the American people, Jimmy, but this time they've gone too far.
	What's with disturbing good people in restaurants and such?
	Oh, my dear avocado toast.
	When will it stop?
	I cannot condone these kinds of horrific attacks on the very cornerstone of our society.
	I mean, they even took a week's worth of those big paper clamps from the office storeroom.
	You mean those binder clips people take home from work to use to seal their potato chip bags for freshness?
	You know it.
	These toughs, these brigandines, they will be brought to justice.
	I assure you that I pledge to spend every waking moment of my life, except while enjoying a fine meal at my local establishment, to finding, apprehending, and prosecuting the low-life scum responsible for this carnage.
	For it is my quest.
	For I am master of the Senate.
	For it is my quest.
	For it is my quest.
	We have a special guest with us at Susie Dawson.
	She's an activist, journalist, former party leader and current president of the Internet Party of New Zealand.
	She specializes in writing about intelligence agencies, surveillance, technology, and geopolitics.
	And she's a fierce advocate for truth tellers, particularly Julian Assange and Edward Snowden.
	Welcome, Susie Dawson.
	Thanks for being here.
	Thank you so much for having me, Jimmy.
	Everybody knows what's been happening.
	Julian Assange used to be the darling of the left when he was revealing war crimes of the Bush administration.
	And then as soon as he started to tell the truth about the liberal class, things all hell broke loose.
	Now he's been held up in the Ecuadorian embassy in England because, well, first they came at him with a bogus sex charge, assault charge, which was completely discredited.
	Now it's been dropped.
	But what's really going on is the CIA wants to get at him.
	Will you tell me what's really going on?
	Well, Julian has been at the forefront of truth telling and independent journalism since 2006, 2007 at least.
	And he has been opening the eyes of the world to how our governments actually operate and also how the security and military and intelligence infrastructure truly operates, how they work, their methods, the types of operations that they're doing behind closed doors.
	And this is a first because we don't hear this type of thing from the New York Times or the Washington Post or anywhere really in Western journalism.
	And Julian has been at the forefront of that battle for the public right to know and public information.
	And as a result, he has been ruthlessly targeted by those agencies and a myriad of governments now, Sweden, Ecuador, US, UK, among, you know, and to some extent, I guess, Australia in terms of their passivity around his targeting.
	And so now it's up to us, the people, to stand up and defend Julian if we want to still have him out there doing what he does for us.
	So, and what he does is reveal how governments really work.
	That's what he really reveals.
	And that's why he's a real threat to the establishment because, you know, he doesn't play favorites and he does actually reveal how governments work, which is pretty ugly and always against the people.
	So what, so I, should we jump into you?
	You said you've had a few top 10 lists you made to share with people.
	Do you want to jump into that right now?
	Yeah, sure, if you want to.
	So I'm a child of the 80s, and I was just thinking today about the old David Letterman shows and how they used to have the top 10 and everyone would sit there and laugh at his witticisms.
	But I was realizing like the top 10 was never really about anything significant or important.
	And I thought, what if we made like some top 10 lists of things that are vital information that people should know and have access to?
	And that maybe that could become like a thing for your show where you could like use this, your platform to get this information out to people the way that you do, you know, nearly every day of the week.
	So I came up with a couple of things related to Wikileaks, but also one related to Edward Snowden because Edward Snowden's revelations have obviously changed the world.
	More than 50% of the internet is now HTTPS because of the Snowden leaks.
	What is that many people using?
	When you say 50% of the internet is now ACPTS.
	Yes, it means that the websites are secured by encryption.
	So you see many links now start with HTTPS.
	And that came about, yeah, that came about because of Edward Snowden's revelations and also the increasing use of end-to-end encrypted messaging apps like Signal or even WhatsApp now is encrypted.
	So I also put together a top 10 list of findings in the Snowden files that people don't know about because they haven't been published by the mainstream media.
	A lot of people know a few important things about those files, but not all of them.
	So here's my little list.
	We'll kick it off with Snowden and then I'll move back to Wikileaks.
	So Elizabeth Leah Voss, who's the editor-in-chief of an amazing website called Disobedient Media, disobedient media.org, disobedientnews.com.
	And she and I have been studying the Snowden files.
	We've been studying the batch releases of files from Glenn Greenwald and the Intercept rather than just studying what the mainstream has covered.
	So these are 10 findings that I just picked out today.
	So number one, there is internal NSA resistance to the 9-11 Commission and Senate Intelligence Committee's oversight.
	So we found documents where the NSA employees were talking to each other and saying, hey, we do not want, and in fact, it actually says, trust me, we don't want the 9-11 Commission or Senate Intelligence Committee to change the way that we do business.
	And of course, those committees had been given, had been empowered by government to change the way that the intelligence community works.
	So that was a great example of how impervious they are to oversight.
	Number two, the NSA says in its documents that all Osama bin Laden had to do to be undetectable by the NSA was to use PDF files to communicate.
	Because at that time of the Iraq invasion, Afghanistan invasion and Iraq invasion, the NSA actually didn't have the ability to read content that was in a PDF document.
	How could that possibly be?
	According to the NSA documents, that's the case.
	They literally said all Osama would have had to do to be undetectable by the NSA was to use PDF files.
	Number three, according to the NSA, it takes a whole village for them to spy on the UN.
	That's a direct quote.
	They worked with the State Department and the CIA to spy on and monitor and infiltrate the United Nations.
	Number four, according to the NSA, the U.S. considers the United Nations to be, and this is a direct quote, an arm of U.S. foreign policy.
	So we think of the United Nations as representing everybody on the planet or all the different countries.
	The U.S. considers the UN to be a tool for implementing U.S. foreign policy and for dominating the planet.
	Number five, the NSA was literally planning a system of global control.
	They refer to it in their documents as the global network.
	And they want that spying network to cover the entire globe.
	They actually say they want 100% coverage of every square inch of the planet through their satellites and their geospatial and everything else that they do.
	Number six, like not scary much, is it?
	Number six, proof.
	There's proof that NSA started to hand over entire databases of data to their customers, not just to write intelligence reports.
	So the implication of this is that, like, for example, one of their customers, it turns out, is the Federal Reserve Bank of America, which is not even a government department.
	So if the Federal Reserve wanted information on some businessman or some whoever, they could pull an entire database of raw information directly from the NSA and then do what they pleased with it rather than just having a written report.
	Number seven, internally, this is a huge one.
	Internally, NSA claims credit for both George Bush and Colin Powell's bullshit Iraq war speeches at the United Nations.
	Remember that?
	Wait a minute.
	say that again.
	The NSA, what?
	Say it again?
	The NSA claimed credit for both George Bush and Colin Powell's Iraq war speeches at the United Nations for, I believe it was UN Resolution 1441, the premise to invade Iraq.
	Those speeches, the raw intelligence in those speeches came from the National Security Agency.
	And in their documents, they actually say that their participation was historic.
	You know, they talk about their contribution being historic on the same level as cracking the Enigma code in World War II.
	That's how they think of themselves.
	Number eight, NSA wants to take its battlefield targeting alert system that they use to kill people in Iraq and in other war zones and implement it globally so that they can target anybody anywhere on the globe.
	Remember how George W. Bush said, the world is a battlefield.
	You know, this is a global war on terrorism.
	Like, we didn't really take him seriously.
	We kind of just thought, you know, overblown politicians, like, this is their rhetoric or whatever.
	But in the background, the intelligence agencies have literally been planning to make the entire world the battlefield.
	Number nine, NSA, when they get into their partnerships with different countries, they actually get access to the networks and hardware operations of the intelligence agencies of that country, as well as using mass surveillance programs to suck up all the data from the citizens of that country.
	So the NSA has access to and control over the satellites and the hardware of its partner nations, of which there is now over 100.
	And number 10, this is about something that I hear all the time that's used to discredit Snowden or his, or the seriousness of his revelations.
	You hear, but Snowden was a CIA operative and he's actually just trying to attack the NSA.
	You know, he didn't leak anything about the CIA.
	Well, when we studied these files, we've studied thousands of them now and we've done it on live stream.
	If you go to hash decipher you or decipher you.com, you can actually read through and see all the source links in the documents that I'm referencing here.
	In studying those files, we found dozens of documents that are about the CIA, about CIA operations, CIA methodology, and CIA working in collaboration with the NSA.
	And so it's a total myth that the agencies are in competition with each other.
	They're actually the left hand and the right hand of the executive.
	This NSA collects information and the CIA acts on it.
	And we discovered that the CIA actually gives annual, what they call denial and deception awards to NSA staff members.
	And also, NSA goes and has meetings where the CIA director is present at that meeting.
	So these guys are hands in hand.
	This whole like idea that the agencies are in competition with each other is total nonsense.
	And it's also nonsense that Snowden didn't leak information about the CIA.
	So there you go.
	There's my top 10, not commonly known, but really important things that were in those leaks.
	And of course, Julian saved Edward Snowden's life.
	So how did Julian save Edward Snowden's life?
	First of all, any one of those top 10 things you had in there could be a whole segment on its own.
	So we're really packing the information into this segment.
	Let's do the achievements.
	Okay.
	Number one, Wikileaks has been keeping the historical record intact and is actually combating the digital loss as web pages and websites are constantly taken down from the internet by the powers that be.
	So you may or may not be aware they, well, I'm sure you are in the current paradigm, they're actually scrubbing entire websites and domains at every opportunity.
	They are trying to erase information from our living history.
	And Wikileaks and its charter and its founding charter says any information that is at risk of censorship or deletion can find a safe harbor in Wikileaks.
	And that's what they've been doing, which is pretty remarkable.
	Didn't know they did that.
	Yeah, they do.
	They have published entire databases of websites.
	I mean, there was a fantastic initiative where a researcher in Berlin had actually compiled a whole database of information about the public profiles of intelligence community members, which showed specific assassination programs they'd been involved in, like drone programs, things like this.
	And they went after the intelligence community went after him really hard and took his stuff down.
	And sure enough, Wikileaks took the entire database and published it.
	That was some years ago.
	I'm not referring to the recent ICE one, but this predates that.
	It's called the IC Watch Project.
	So information that should be in the public record, but which great powers are trying to get rid of, WikiLeaks grants asylum to.
	That's awesome.
	All right, let's go to number two.
	Number two, Wikileaks enables victims of persecution to have admissible evidence to fight their cases in court.
	And there has been successful court results for victims of persecution as a result, including recently the case of the Chagos Islanders and also the case of Al-Masri.
	But Elizabeth Levos actually dug out that 40,000 court cases around the world have had Wikileaks documents submitted as evidence to the court.
	So we can't even imagine how many lives have been positively impacted by having that access to the truth.
	Wow, that's a pretty big number.
	40,000 court cases worldwide using, that's amazing.
	All right, let's do it.
	Let's do number three.
	Number three, that they've maintained a 100% accuracy record over more than 10 years of publishing.
	Yes, correct.
	So they've never, so that's a big deal.
	That's like the biggest thing to me that every, you know, every newspaper every day has, you know, a bunch of corrections.
	Wikileaks has never had to retract anything they've ever published as being untrue or unfactual, correct?
	Correct.
	Absolutely.
	That's a big achievement, I would say.
	So, okay, number, what are we on?
	Number four?
	Number four, Wikileaks is still publishing despite the full force of empire being used against them.
	Intelligence agencies, financial service providers, hostile media and law affair.
	And of course, now Julian's solitary confinement.
	As recently as last week, we see Wikileaks releases being published.
	Yeah, that is fantastic.
	That is amazing.
	They keep going.
	That's a ballsy bunch over there.
	So let's go to number five.
	Absolutely.
	Number five relates a bit to the story I was telling about New York Times using the Saudi cables published by Wikileaks.
	And that's that Wikileaks have established a digital library of over 10 million documents containing pristine data sets, the full relevance of which may only become apparent years into the future.
	Every news story, every current news story can be further informed by doing a keyword search to see what Wikileaks archives contain about topics or persons or places that may be relevant to that news story.
	All right.
	Number six.
	Number six, Wikileaks have established a whole new way of doing journalism.
	They also architected the first anonymous Dropboxes, which we now see that a similar technology being used by media outlets across the globe.
	Oh, really?
	So, Wikileaks pioneered that?
	WikiLeaks had an anonymous encrypted online Dropbox for sources and whistleblowers, which we know and have proven that Aaron Swartz was involved with, the famous activist from Boston.
	And he later then engineered something called Dropbox, which became SecureDrop, which is the technology that is now being used by everyone from the New York Times to even outlets in New Zealand where I come from.
	Fantastic.
	All right, number seven.
	Number seven, Wikileaks has become the vanguard of press freedom, always pushing at the boundaries of what is acceptable in publishing.
	And that is incredibly important because as they are pushing those boundaries further and further out, it allows independent media and citizen media to fill that space in between.
	And we can go further and do more significant things because Wikileaks is out there taking the heat for us.
	Very true.
	All right.
	Number eight.
	Wikileaks has published leaks on every country in the world without geopolitical bias.
	So another smear that you hear all the time is Wikileaks doesn't publish about Israel.
	So they must be massage spies.
	Wikileaks doesn't publish about Russia.
	So they're, you know, in bed with Vladimir Putin.
	Go to wikileaks.org, type Israel and press enter.
	You'll find, I mean, this is an old figure because it's been a while since I did it, but over 600,000 documents about Israel, about Israel's closest, you know, political, diplomatic relationships, deals, contracts, companies, the whole non-yat.
	Type in Russia and press enter.
	I think it was over 800-something thousand documents about Russia, including their involvement in corporate spying and surveillance and the whole, it's all there.
	It's just sitting there waiting for people to read.
	And, you know, if there's one message I could give people other than help us free Julian, it would be go to Wikileaks and type keywords.
	And every time someone tells you something about Wikileaks, fact check them.
	Go to wikileaks.org, type that keyword in, press enter and see what you find.
	All right, that's a gratzo.
	Gets a good tip.
	I'll remember that actually.
	All right.
	Where are we at?
	Number eight?
	Number nine.
	Wikileaks leaves no source behind.
	And not only do they go above and beyond to support their sources like they did with Chelsea Manning, they went to great lengths to support Chelsea Manning financially, but in publicity, every kind of way you can imagine, even organizing protest actions in support of her and nominating her for the Nobel Peace Prize and person of the year and all kinds of things.
	They've actually established organizations to support other at-risk journalists and whistleblowers, such as the Courage Foundation.
	And we now have proven that Julian was involved in the establishment of the Freedom of the Press Foundation.
	Fantastic.
	All right.
	Number 10.
	Number 10 is my personal favorite: that Julian saved the life of Edward Snowden, who is renowned as the greatest whistleblower of our generation and brought to you by Wikileaks.
	All right.
	That is the 10 greatest achievements of WikiLeaks.
	And of course, I'm talking with Susie Dawson, and she's right now in asylum herself in Russia from being persecuted in New Zealand.
	And she's one of the main organizers for Unity for Julian Assange.
	Susie Dawson, thanks so much for being our guest, and thanks for fighting the good fight and protecting journalism via Julian Assange's rights to publish.
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	Hello?
	I would have taken that snivel of old bomb punk into the back room.
	Excuse me, you would have taken what?
	That bomb punk.
	You know the punk with all them bombs?
	What with the mailing to the various peoples and shit?
	Anyway.
	Oh, you mean the guy who mailed those pipe bombs to all those Democrats?
	Yeah, the bomb punk.
	Two bit hot shot snivel and punk with some bombs.
	That's all he is.
	May I continue now?
	Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry.
	I would have taken that bomb punk into the back room and hit him in the face with a hose.
	Follow me?
	That bomb punk.
	Don't play dumb with me.
	You know what I'm talking about.
	You play wise with me?
	Are you asking if I'm playing dumb or wise with you?
	I don't get it.
	Oh, you don't get it.
	Guess you really don't get it.
	I don't.
	And guess who's going to get it if they don't stop playing wise and dumb with me?
	Understand?
	You know who I'm talking about.
	That bomb guy said a bunch of bombs to everybody or something.
	Wasn't all the news.
	You've been on vacation or something?
	As a matter of fact, I just got back from Italy.
	Whoa, you got back from where?
	Italy.
	You mean Italy?
	Not Italy.
	Two syllables.
	What part of Italy?
	Sicily.
	Whoa, where?
	Sicily.
	You mean Sicily?
	Two syllables.
	You just got back from Sicily.
	We just part of Italy.
	Right in the heart of the Mediterranean Sea.
	Whoa, what?
	The Mediterranean.
	Oh, you mean the Mediterranean?
	Big shot.
	Say that to me.
	Sicily, Italy, in the Mediterranean.
	Yeah, yeah, I was in that area.
	I bet you visited the Roman Forum, walked around the Hen Senate, and studied the portrait busts of the leaders of the world's first and longest-running republic.
	A lot of shit along those lines, right?
	No, but I did take pictures of my lunch.
	Fuck me.
	You didn't even visit the birthplace of modern architecture where the Etruscans invented the arch and waterproof concrete.
	No, but I did take a picture of a water fountain with statues in it, and one of the statues had water coming out of the guy's penis.
	Let me get this straight.
	You went to the cultural, political, and religious marketplace of Western civilization?
	And all you did was stuffed a fucking face with bread and cheese and take pictures of waterfall penises.
	I guess.
	Who books that?
	Tim.
	Hey, everybody, welcome to the Jimmy Door show.
	We have special guests with us today.
	You know her, you love her, Jill Stein.
	She's a physician, activist, and she was the Green Party nominee for president in 2012 and 2016.
	And she remains committed to the environment, election reform, and many other progressive issues.
	Please welcome back to the show, Jill Stein.
	Hi, how are you?
	Oh, I'm great, Jimmy.
	It's such an honor to be here.
	Thank you so much.
	And thank you for refusing to give up the fight.
	Well, you know, as my friend Steve-O says, every election since 1980, there's been no winner.
	And that winner has been Goldman Sachs.
	So I just want To say thanks for giving me an opportunity to vote against Goldman Sachs and vote against the war machine and vote against big oil and fossil fuel companies and fracking.
	So I appreciate you giving me the opportunity to vote against those things and vote for something that I really believed in, which was a Green New Deal.
	So I just want to say thanks.
	Well, thank you.
	And I just want to add to that that there's a lot of blaming and shaming going on in an effort to suppress political opposition.
	You know, this is this era of new McCarthyism, which brings together the lovely themes of warmongering, political repression, and censorship.
	And nothing could be more dangerous to our democracy.
	We are not the cause of Donald Trump.
	We are the antidote to Donald Trump that is re-engaging our democracy.
	There were 100 million people who stayed home in the 2016 election.
	100 million people who chose not to vote for either of the two candidates being shoved down our throat.
	That's a lot of people to be mobilized, you know, and that's millennials, people of color, and the poor.
	And this is why we need more choices, not less choices.
	There is no shame here.
	There's every reason to be proud and to hold the fort.
	And for those who are all bent out of shape, that there are voices beyond their control here in the political process.
	To them, we say the answer here is not less democracy.
	It's more democracy.
	A democracy on life support does not need less of it.
	We need more of it.
	And the answer here is ranked choice voting.
	The answer is not suppressing political opposition.
	Without political opposition, there is no democracy.
	Well, it is funny that we've gone from, it used to be the way electoral politics works, Jill, was that as a candidate, you had ideas that excited people and then they came out and voted for you.
	And that's not how it works anymore.
	How it works is you owe your vote to the Democratic Party.
	And if you don't vote for them, you're a bad person.
	And so not only do they not talk about the Electoral College reform, because apparently their donors don't want it, so they don't want it.
	And they don't talk about ranked choice voting.
	When I bring that up, people don't even know what it is.
	That's how little the Democrats talk about ranked choice voting because they don't want that either, because that would increase participation in the electoral process.
	And that's not what they want.
	Their donors want the American elections are designed to suppress the vote.
	And then they run around voter policing, trying to make sure everybody votes.
	And I try to tell people that if the Democratic Party ran on a platform of ending the wars, a free college, a living wage, and Medicare for all, they would sweep back into power, yet they just won't do it.
	Exactly.
	And why do you think they won't do it?
	Well, you know, they're all for it until they have the power to make it happen.
	You know, Obama had two houses of Congress and, you know, and the White House.
	And what did he do?
	He bailed out the banks and bailed out the banks and he bailed out the banks until he was punished in the midterms and he lost Congress.
	So he no longer had the power.
	So at that point, he could become quite the advocate.
	And this is what we see over and we've seen it in California where single payer, right, Medicare for all could have been passed.
	And of course, you know, they have to invent reasons not to do it.
	So it's like this is not something new, folks.
	You know, you can trace this all the way back to the Second World War when the microphone was shut off on Henry Wallace, who was the socialist of socialists who made Bernie Sanders look like, you know, like some kind of a weak-needed centrist.
	Yeah.
	And the microphone was shut off on him, basically denying him the presidency.
	And all the way forward, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Barack Obama, Bernie Sanders, you name it, it's a game of fake left and move right.
	So fool me once, shame on you, fool me a thousand times, really, really shame on me.
	And I have to say, you know, I've been out there in the grassroots of late quite a bit.
	And when you get out there beyond sort of the reach of mainstream media, which is losing its grip as well, you know, more and more people are just tuning out as they should.
	You get beyond the reach, the brainwashing, the incessant, you know, thousand times a day propaganda of the mainstream media.
	And people are not buying this one bit.
	You know, I was in Coachala, California last night with the Chicano community, basically.
	And, you know, Chicano is the new green, I have to say.
	We got really empowered, inspired Chicano candidates.
	I was out there last night supporting Victor Alcantara, who's running for city council, has a very good chance of getting in.
	And they really don't give the time of day to the Democrats because they know that Obama was the deporter-in-chief before you had Trump, you know, just out there with his incredible xenophobia on racism, which is just off the charts.
	He's more explicit, but Obama still holds the record.
	So people are not, you know, I find are less and less being fooled and more and more ready to stand up because we realize this is an existential moment.
	You know, it's really now or never.
	We can only go so much further over the cliff towards fascism.
	And what laid the groundwork for Donald Trump?
	You know, it was neoliberalism, which throws people under the bus, which makes them absolutely desperate and cling to demagogues and authoritarianism.
	It's not just Donald Trump.
	This is happening world over.
	We need, you know, we need democracy.
	We need social justice.
	We need peace.
	We need a solution to the environment.
	And we need a place to do it.
	And the Green Party and our candidates in this race offer that opportunity.
	We have three congressional candidates, you may know, who are in two-way races.
	So there is no spoiler effect here.
	Right.
	So we're going to get to that.
	In California, we have super majority Democrats, super majority, meaning the Democrats can do whatever they want.
	Plus, we have Jerry Brown, who I was told my whole life is a far-out lefty hippie as our governor, right?
	So we couldn't have, this is exactly what everybody thinks will bring utopia to the United States is if we have a blue wave and we have blue, blue, blue.
	We have that in California.
	And guess what we don't have?
	We still don't have single-payer health care.
	We still don't have free college.
	We still don't have a ban on fracking.
	And that's Jerry Brown, right?
	Jerry Brown's in bed with the frackers.
	So my point is this we need leverage against the Democratic Party.
	And one of the big reasons I voted green in the 2016 election was because the Greens don't need to get to a point where they can win a national election, even though that would be great.
	But what they need to be is in a position, or some third party needs to be in a position where the Democratic Party can no longer flip off the progressives in the country and the environmentalists in the country, which is exactly what happened.
	So in 2016, all the energy was with the progressive Bernie Sanders.
	And then as soon as he capitulated and endorsed Hillary Clinton, she then moved to the right.
	She didn't go and reach out to the left to people like you and me or people who supported Bernie Sanders.
	She went out and she went after Republican votes.
	We know this, right?
	And that's why she chose Tim Kaine, who's to the right of her.
	Tim Cain's anti-union.
	He's right to work.
	So my point is that if the Green Party was polling nationally, 5-10%, the Democrats could no longer just ignore the progressives.
	They would have to then have like a coalition with the progressives.
	And, you know, I mean, if Hillary Clinton would have put Bernie Sanders on as vice president, she would have won.
	She wouldn't do it.
	So that's why.
	So do you agree with that assessment of what I'm like?
	We're going to get into the down ballot races that is happening.
	But in the national level, do you agree with my assessment that it doesn't matter if a third party, being the Greens in this case, actually can win the election?
	The point is to influence the election and pull the Democratic Party back to the left.
	And let's just call it a win-win.
	It's a win if we lose and it's a win if we win.
	And we don't have to decide which one it's going to be because things change.
	And the Republican Party way back when was an anti-slavery party that was also called a spoiler.
	And so things change.
	But absolutely, we win simply by being heard.
	We win by standing up.
	And the whole concept that our votes, the votes of progressives belong to Democrats, and we're taking them away from Hillary Clinton.
	Candidates don't own our votes.
	They have to earn our votes.
	And the very concept that they own them is extremely dangerous to democracy.
	And that's why you see the Democrats doing the outrageous things that they're doing that do not represent everyday people whatsoever.
	So this is not a cause for shame.
	And they keep trying to make us feel ashamed.
	And I just want to underscore this as a cause for celebration and for pride.
	Remember that green votes did not come from Hillary Clinton's camp.
	And this was demonstrated over and over by polls and surveys that people who voted green were largely, overwhelmingly taken from the non-voter bloc.
	There are 100 million people in that non-voter bloc who've basically said no to the corporate politics that's thrown them under the bus, that's absolutely ruined their future, thrown them into debt, et cetera.
	You know, Hillary Clinton doesn't own those votes.
	The Democrats don't.
	So we can, you know, we got to stand up and stand for what we're for because the politics of fear has delivered everything that we're afraid of.
	It doesn't move us forward.
	When you go to the polls and you're only voting against what you hate, that doesn't give our political system direction.
	It needs direction.
	And remember, the answer to hypothetical splitting of a vote is ranked choice voting.
	The fact that Democrats won't support that tells, you know, that's the giveaway right there, that their intention is not to preserve the integrity of the vote or the accuracy of the vote.
	It's to suppress political opposition.
	That's very dangerous.
	And this recent, you know, pipe bomb threats that we've seen, you know, needs to be connected to this milieu we're in right now of the new McCarthyism, which is about authoritarianism.
	It's about violence and militarism, as well as the suppression of political dissent.
	You just take one little baby step from there and you're into an era of political violence.
	So this is very dangerous.
	It's not just Republicans who are committing it.
	You know, this is happening, you know, just think back to Alexandria when you had a Democrat who was taking target practice on Republican congressmen who were playing baseball.
	You know, this is a bipartisan problem and it is a problem that is imbued with militarism, the violence, and the authoritarianism that has become normalized and which is supported by both political parties.
	Yeah.
	So, you know, someone smarter than me said, and I can't remember who, but that whatever we do to the people overseas, we're going to do to ourselves.
	And we're exactly doing that.
	So we live in a militarized culture right now, right?
	So and it's not only, you know, we are doing it.
	So somehow it's okay to drop bombs on the poorest people in the world for 18 years straight, but and no, everyone's okay with it.
	And then pipe bombs, somehow that has crossed the line of decorum.
	So that's, to me, that's funny that there's decorum in killing.
	And B, the people who vote, they just voted for $700 billion to go to killing poor people in brown countries.
	And now they're surprised that some violence is visited on them, which we decry violence anywhere, right?
	And so it's about time that that, well, if you're not going to be an anti-war party, maybe we need one, right?
	Would you agree with that?
	Absolutely.
	War is not incidental.
	When it's 57% of Congress's budget, it's not incidental.
	When the major portion of your income taxes on last tax day, it's almost, it was over $3,400 was the average contribution to the Pentagon.
	The average contribution for social programs was $80, and the average contribution for the EPA was $40.
	So this, you know, there's no contest here.
	We are essentially a military budget with a few little things going, you know, there's just window dressing around the margins of that.
	So it's not separate from our struggle for health care, our struggle for free public higher education.
	We could pay for free public higher ed for everyone just in the increase in the military budget, which was larger than Russia's entire budget.
	For military.
	So people who said that $60 billion a year for free college was a pony then went ahead without discussion, debate, or irony or acknowledging the irony, they voted for $80 billion for a bloated war budget.
	And that's not a pony.
	They can just get that.
	There's no discussions, no town hall meetings.
	There's no op-eds written about it.
	No, nothing.
	They just do it, and it's done, no conversation.
	But if you wanted to use that same money to give people free college, oh my God, the country would have to stop.
	And we'd all have to talk about this and who's going to pay for it.
	And we have to have it line by line now.
	It's going to be paid for.
	But if you want to spend it on the military, no questions asked.
	It's all done.
	And that's why half the country doesn't vote.
	And so people have to shame you and pretend that people who vote, because I wouldn't have voted in the presidential election if I couldn't have voted for you or somebody who represented my values.
	I'm done voting for corporatist warmongers because that makes you complicit.
	It's worse than a wasted vote.
	It's using your vote as a weapon against yourself to vote for more of this corporate politics that's killing us.
	So I just want to show you this, Jill.
	This was Bernie Sanders.
	This is what he said for the better part of his 35 years in politics.
	But in the beginning, this is what would happen.
	You had the Democratic candidate running for something and the Republican candidate, historically, Vermont had been a Republican state, a moderate Republican, not right-wing.
	And the Democrats.
	And then we had a third party.
	And what would happen is debate after debate, television program after television program, the progressive third-party people, would in fact get the best response from the audiences.
	And people would say, you guys make a lot of sense.
	And then you go up to them and say, you're going to vote for us?
	And they say, oh, of course we're not going to vote for you.
	You can't win.
	You're going to vote for the Democrat.
	You're a much better candidate.
	Everything you're saying is true, but we can't waste our vote.
	Waste our vote was the expression.
	So if there's any term that drives me crazy, it's this quote-unquote waste our vote.
	So I still agree with Bernie Sanders that that term drives me crazy.
	So what he said for all of his adult life, I agree with.
	Now, I don't know if he still says that, but I agree with that guy.
	And so here's what he has to say about moving forward.
	Now, my own view, and it has been my view for many, many years, is that what we need in this country is what Jackson calls a rainbow coalition.
	But it has to be done outside of the Democratic Party.
	So I just wanted to show that.
	And what people who want to shame you and shame green voters, what they need to remember is that the Green Party is a totally different party.
	And as you said earlier, most of the people who vote green would not vote otherwise.
	The biggest voting bloc in America is people who don't vote.
	So instead of wagging their finger over the marginal amount of people who come out to vote green and vote their conscience, what people should be doing is wagging their finger at the Democratic Party for putting up such horrible candidates that it doesn't inspire people to come out to vote.
	People who voted for Barack Obama twice in Michigan and Wisconsin would not come out to vote for Hillary Clinton.
	That's on Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party.
	That's not because of you or because of Russia or because of me or some jagoff comedian in his garage.
	That's because of the most powerful political machine in the world is no longer responsive to the people.
	And that's exactly what happened.
	It was exactly why half the country doesn't vote.
	And if they were responsible, they would have did an autopsy on the Democratic Party and why they lost to the most repulsive GOP candidate in the history of our country.
	They couldn't beat that guy.
	So instead of figuring that out, they wanted to distract and call you a Russian and call me Putin's buddy and call everybody I had something to do with Russia, even though now Mueller's investigation is winding down and it's been being, it's going to be a big nothing burger.
	So I just wanted to show you that and I wanted to just implore people to quit voter policing and voter shaming.
	What you need to do every time you want to yell at someone to make sure they vote, you should stuff that and then yell at a politician for not inspiring someone to vote.
	That's the real problem in our country is that, you know, there was a race in Kansas recently and the people blamed the Green Party candidate for swinging that congressional, I think it was Ohio 12, I could be wrong, to swing that election to the Republican.
	And I'm like, did you see the Democrat who was running?
	He was literally saying he's just like John Kasich.
	That was his pitch.
	So his pitch wasn't, I'm different.
	His pitch was, I'm just like a Republican.
	So the Green Party decided to come out and vote for the Green Party.
	So I'm making this point over and over, but I just can't get over.
	I agree with this guy.
	And the idea that Hillary Clinton, she was the first candidate in the history of politics who wasn't expected to garner votes by campaigning.
	You were just supposed to give her your vote.
	So I wanted to make all those points before we move on.
	Is there anything you want to add to what you saw Bernie say or what I just said?
	Yeah.
	You know, you're totally right on, Jimmy.
	And thank you for being a lifeline for so many people.
	And I just want to say that to this whole studio.
	You are a lifeline for so many people who are just hanging on to this little stream of truth that we still have access to because even on social media and on the internet, you know, that McCarthyism is alive and well and suppressing political opposition and exercising censorship and all that.
	So what this program is doing is so important.
	And I thank you from the bottom of my heart.
	But I also want to just, you know, I want to just underscore that this myth that we're all supposed to be good little boys and girls, you know, and take our marching orders from either the Republican or the Democratic Party.
	And that's as far as you should ever go or you should ever think.
	And that's that and everything is fine.
	You know, that myth is just like outrageously ludicrous.
	And the grassroots is on fire right now.
	There really is an uprising that's in full swing.
	And this political repression, you know, people are rightfully frightened of political violence and economic violence and racial violence and all that that's just on the loose right now.
	But people are not caving into this system one bit.
	And people are, you don't hear it in the media.
	They're doing everything they can to suppress it because as Bernie Sanders, the old Bernie Sanders said way back then, there's, you know, this is just, this is common sense.
	This is common values.
	This is our basic humanity.
	And people are hungry for it.
	So the bottom line here is don't get angry, get even.
	There are social movements that are alive and well, and there are also, there is political resistance.
	There is an uprising going on right now.
	My new home base is Green Uprising, which is just greenuprising.org, which is essentially a network for continuing the peaceful revolution and turning the resistance, resistance of 2016 into rebellion in elections to come.
	So what do you think?
	I hate to be pessimistic, but I am now about just because of the latest IPCC report and what's going on.
	We can't even get, you know, the Democrats still seem to be embracing an all of the above strategy as far as energy, which is a horrible strategy.
	Under Barack Obama, we opened the Arctic to drilling twice, and we had the highest amount of oil pumped out of the ground ever in the history of our country during Barack Obama's presidency.
	So the fact, so this idea that the Democrats are going to save us from global warming, climate change, is not true, correct?
	Absolutely.
	And Nancy Pelosi, you know, told Politico, I think it was, in a recent interview, that if the Democrats took the House back, that they would have a go-slow policy on climate change.
	So, you know, you're kidding yourself if you think that the Democrats are going to fix this, that suddenly they've seen the light and that they're corporate donors and the frackers and the oil mongers that, you know, that suddenly they don't care about them and their money anymore.
	No, they're still firmly in control.
	So don't be fooled, whether it's climate change, you know, the Supreme Court, there you have, you know, Chuck Schumer and the Judiciary Committee basically expediting Trump's appointments to the federal bench.
	So the Democrats are not going to save us from this extreme court either.
	And, you know, and they're criticizing Trump from the right.
	They're pushing him from the right.
	So when you see Trump now withdrawing from our nuclear weapons treaties, you know, we have the Democrats to thank for this as Well, and who was it that restarted the nuclear arms race?
	It was Barack Obama who initiated this $1.5 trillion being spent now on nuclear weapons.
	Instead of, you know, creating a new generation of nuclear weapons, we should be using that money to create a new generation of young Americans who are free from student debt.
	That money should be used for a bailout.
	So, you know, on count after count, the Democrats are not going to save us.
	We are the ones we've been waiting for.
	Yes, we are.
	And I just want to say, you know, your idea to use quantitative easing for student debt, right?
	And it was, you know, widely, it was attacked, recklessly attacked with the most ridiculous species of reasons.
	John Oliver famously attacked you when he said, you better know how quantitative easing works, meaning you personally, Jill.
	And I was like, really?
	So you would have said that to John F. Kennedy when he said we need to go to the moon by the end of the decade.
	Hey, you better know how to build a rocket.
	He doesn't have to know how to build a rocket.
	And the president doesn't have to know how to run the central bank.
	What the president needs to know how to do is have a vision.
	And that's we need someone to have a vision.
	And we need to end student debt.
	And we need to have a Green New Deal.
	We need to end the wars.
	We need to have free college.
	We need to end fracking.
	And that's called a vision.
	And then we have experts that fulfill that vision.
	And so that's, again, there were so many bogus attacks on you about that.
	Again, the thing that was called a pony, free college, again, they went ahead and just gave it to the military.
	Nobody cared where that money came from.
	Nobody cared how that was.
	Do you think Trump knows how that's being paid for?
	He doesn't know how that's being paid for.
	He doesn't know where that money comes from or where it goes or what the national debt means.
	He doesn't know any of that stuff.
	Yet he's doing it.
	So apparently, John Oliver wrong again.
	On many counts, and several Democrats have now also taken up our call not only for free public higher education, but also for bailing out students for a student bailout.
	There are Democrats who are now echoing that call as well.
	So double the shame on John Oliver.
	Yes, yes.
	At least.
	A guy who comes from a place with free health care is going to come here and tell me I'm crazy for voting for a progressive.
	Wow, who'd be calling me now?
	Don't people know I have voting machines to hack?
	Hello.
	Hey, friend, it's me, Mittens.
	Who?
	Say, don't you remember?
	They called me Mitt.
	It was Mitt all the time.
	Say, don't you remember?
	I'm your pal.
	Buddy, can you spare a dime for my Senate campaign in your face, radical leftist?
	Hey, you know, there's a lot more to that phone call, but we don't have time in today's podcast.
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	Today's show was written.
	That's right.
	It was written by Frank Connoff, Jim Earl, Ron Placone, Step Semerano, and Mark Van Landwick.
	Special thanks to Susie Dawson and Jill Stein for being our guests.
	All the voices today performed by the one and the only, the inimitable Mike McCrae, who can be found at mikemcrae.com.
	That's it for this week.
	You be the best you can be, and I'll keep being me.
	Don't freak out!
	I'm not kidding.
	Don't freak out!
	Don't freak out.
	Do not, do not.
	Do not freak.
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