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Get ready for an outstanding entertainment program.
The Jimmy Dore Show.
Hello, this is Jimmy.
Who's this?
Hey, Jimmy, this is Senator Bernie Sanders.
Oh, Senator, how are you?
Usually I'm the one calling you.
I know.
I know.
This whole mail bomb situation has me all worked up.
I just wanted to call and make sure that you haven't received anything suspicious or threatening in the mail.
No, no, I haven't.
Oh, thank God.
I'm very glad to hear that.
What a relief.
I don't think I'm quite high-profile enough.
What about you, though?
No.
No, no bombs yet.
Obviously, we checked my senatorial offices in D.C., nothing.
My home in Vermont is clear.
Also, I have a small office in Burlington.
I had that checked and no suspicious packages or anything.
And finally, this one's sort of a long shot, but I have a P.O. box I use mainly for online shopping.
Very few people know about it, but I just checked that personally.
And yeah, nothing.
Not a damn thing.
Bernie, what?
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but do you sound a little disappointed that you didn't receive a bomb in the mail?
Well.
Well, what?
Yeah, I mean, I suppose, in a way.
How could you possibly be...
I mean, look who's been getting them, the Clintons, the Obama's, CNN, Andrew Cuomo, all of these mainstream resistance characters.
Am I not relevant?
Am I not considered a resistant by this bomb fella?
I'm sure it's nothing personal, Bernie.
I wouldn't worry about it.
Jimmy, I'm trying to stay out there, stay relevant.
I may run again.
I may be Trump's opponent in 2020.
That's not enough for this psycho to target me with a bomb or at least a postcard that says fuck you in my P.O. box.
Bob, you're taking this hard.
Eric Holder.
What the fuck?
Eric, hold it, get to Bob.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
I believe so.
Jesus Christ.
Might as well send one to Casper Weinberger while you're at it.
Bernie, I think you're overreacting.
Oh, don't get me that.
Don't get me overreacting.
You and I both know that if you received a pipe bomb in your mail, that would put you on the map like nothing else ever has.
Bernie, I...
Don't even argue!
This is...
People would say, oh, this Jimmy Dory.
He must be a real firebrand because people are sending him mailbox.
I should check out some of his vids.
It'd be a band of day for you, my friend.
I suppose so, but I'm not sure the risk would be worth the hits on my YouTube channel.
Think of the glory.
I'm watching CNN right now.
All these anchors are standing outside like the fire alarm went off doing that news live.
Now they're heroes because they have to read their talking points and slightly colder temperature.
And of course, you got these Star Wars bomb robots sip-zapping around.
It's compelling television.
You got to want to be a part of it.
Bernie, I have to say, this seems like an oddly cynical take from you.
Look, Jimmy, I mean all of the things I say.
The things I fight for, I believe in them.
But I know what I'm a part of.
I know what it means to be in the world of TV politics.
I'm simply a realist.
I see.
Hey, I got an idea.
What?
How about you and I mail each other some packages?
No.
What?
It doesn't have to be real.
Just a pipe with the word bomb written on it.
Absolutely not, Bernie.
Come on, damn it.
Where are your balls?
We'll be heroes.
Bye, Bernie.
It's the Jimmy Dore Show.
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And now, here's a guy who sounds a lot like me.
It's Jimmy Dore!
Hey, everybody, welcome to this week's Jimmy Dore show.
Hey, let's get to the joke before we get to the jokes, shall we?
Pipe bombs being sent to politicians.
And I just say, thank goodness they sent those bombs by UPS, where they sat in a truck for three weeks before getting dumped at the wrong address on the other side of town.
The suspects originally planned to send the bombs by Amazon drones, but they're not big fans of irony.
I get that.
Though the attempt was foiled this time, the Secret Service says it's only a matter of time before perpetrators achieve success with an exploding cashier's check.
Get it?
I mean, I think it's terrible that sick people would use bombs to assassinate politicians and terrorize people.
But enough about our foreign policy.
Am I right?
Come on.
Hey, I heard this Halloween Van Jones is going as a journalist.
Hey, here's something controversial.
I believe that body butter should actually come from your body.
Unfriend me if you must.
So what's coming up on today's show?
The Robert Mueller RussiaGate report is due very soon.
And now mainstream news organizations that once pushed Russagate are warning people that the report will be a big nothing burger.
We're going to talk about that today.
That's right.
Russagate, they are now bracing you for a big letdown on RussiaGate, as predicted here on the Jimmy Door show.
Well, plus, the CNN poll showed Joe Biden with a wide lead over Bernie Sanders in the 2020 presidential campaign.
Turns out that poll was a little suspect as we look into it.
We're going to take a look even closer at that.
Hey, it turns out the TPP has a new BS name for the TPP, and it's passing against the will of the voters in New Zealand.
Yes, the answer just may surprise you, or will it?
Plus, we have phone calls today from Bernie Sanders, Barack Obama, Mitt Romney, and Ricky Bobby Perry.
Plus a lot lot more.
That's today on the Jimmy Door Show.
Hi, everybody.
Welcome to Jimmy Door Show.
I'm here with the Miserable Liberal and special guest, Steve Scroll Van, is with us.
Hi, Steve.
Hi, Jimmy.
How you doing?
Very good.
Now, if you don't know who Steve is, he's a hilarious comedian, writer, producer, director.
If you like that show, everybody loves Raymond.
He had a lot to do with that.
You'd be laughing at a lot of the stuff he wrote for that.
And he's also doing a stand-up show, Stand Up for Main Street, with Bill Burrs on it and a lot of other comedians.
And that's October 22nd.
October 28th on Sunday, this coming Sunday.
This Sunday.
So everybody go to citizen.org and get your tickets for that special.
And there's all different price range of tickets.
So you're very affordable.
It's a great stand-up show.
It helps a great cause, Steve Scrovan.
Okay.
So today I want to talk to you about, you know, how we've told you on this show that RussiaGate is a mistake for the Democrats to push Russia Gate, but the reason why they are pushing it is because they don't want to do an autopsy on why we have Trump.
And the reason why we have Trump is because the Democratic Party is completely bought and paid for by the people they're supposed to be regulating.
And, well, guess what?
So now, Politico, here we go.
Mueller report: prepare for disappointment.
So now they're preparing people to be let down by the Mueller investigation.
Everybody's being prepared to be let down.
Be forewarned that the special counsel's findings may never be made public.
That's that subheading right there.
So they're getting, so Steve, I don't know.
Why won't they be made public?
Because they're disappointing or because I'm going to guess because they're disappointing.
But here, we'll get into it.
So President Donald Trump's critics have spent the past, this is from Politico, Politico, right?
This isn't from common dreams.org.
This is from Politico.
Yeah.
This is from Socialist Worksite website or something.
This isn't from Worldwide.
This is from Politico.
It says, President Donald Trump's critics have spent the past 17 months anticipating what some expect will be among the most thrilling events of their lives.
Special counsel Robert Mueller's final report on Russian 2016 election interference.
They may be in for a disappointment.
I love how that's good writing, by the way.
Sounds like my first sexual encounter.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha ha.
Although I didn't really warn her.
I think that's what it's what it said on Robert Mueller's Tinder profile.
Prepare for disappointment.
Man, who would have thought that the folks responsible for the Iraq war would let us down again?
There is more to that.
I'm sure a ton of people in the corporate media is going to apologize, though.
I'm sure they will, right?
Well, what's Rachel Maddow going to talk about?
What is she going to talk about now?
She's going to have to talk about actual policies.
Yeah.
That's the word Politico got from the defense lawyers working on the Russia probe and more than 15 former government officials with investigation experience spanning Watergate to the 2016 election case.
The word that they got from those people is prepare for disappointment in the Robert Bull.
So, and by the way, we've tried to tell you this.
I tried to warn people about this.
This whole show has been doing this ever since this started.
I tried to do it.
I brought Bill Binney on, who's the NSA expert code breaker.
He told you it was bullshit.
I had on, oh, I showed you how Mike Morrell, the former CIA director, said there's never going to be any evidence.
He tried to warn people about it.
Here we are.
Now Politico is getting people prepared for the big letdown of the Robert Mueller investigation.
The public, they say, shouldn't expect a comprehensive and presidency-wrecking account of Kremlin meddling and alleged obstruction of justice by Trump, not to mention an explanation of the myriad subplots that have bedeviled lawmakers, journalists, and amateur Mueller sleuths.
So they said you shouldn't, don't expect this.
They're saying, don't expect this report to answer all the questions.
You know, those questions you have, don't expect that to happen.
Some of the central players in the Russia saga say they too have become resigned to not getting a complete set of answers out of Mueller's work.
I assume there are going to be lots of details we'll never learn and lots of things that will never come to light, said Robbie Mook, Clinton's 2016 campaign manager.
He's resigned.
Ah, well, you know why?
Because he's the one who made this up in the first place.
He's like, I guess we'll never find out.
Ah, well, it worked because we distracted everybody from looking at the biggest election fraud in the history of our country, meaning the primary in the Democratic Party in 2016.
It worked because nobody's talking about how Hillary Clinton illegally funneled money that was supposed to be being raised for down ballot races, funneled it right to her campaign office in Brooklyn.
No one talked about that.
No one talked about how out of touch rich white people were who are running the Democratic Party.
No one talked about that.
All they talked about was Russia.
And what is Rachel Maddow going to talk about now?
And this is the guy.
Now he's like, if you really thought that this guy was put into office illegally by another country, you would be like, ah, well, whatever.
But government investigation experts are waving a giant yellow caution flag now to warn that Mueller's no comment mantra is unlikely to give way to a tell-all final report and an accompanying blitz of media interviews and public testimony on Capitol Hill.
So now everybody's like, hey, Mueller's not going to be really talking about this.
The report's not going to really do anything.
But the biggest thing, perhaps most unsatisfying, is Mueller's findings may never even see the light of day.
Mary McCord, Georgetown University law professor and former Department of Justice official who helped oversee the FBI's Russia meddling investigation before Mueller's appointment cautioned against heightened expectations around the special counsel's final report.
Don't overread any of these facts that are in the world.
Don't overread any of these facts that are in the world to suggest a quick wrap-up and everyone is going to get a chance to read it the next day, she said.
It will probably be detailed because this material is detailed, but I don't know that it will all be made public.
That's supposed to say public.
So no, it's not going to all be made public.
The department, so this gets at Robert Mueller because the law got changed.
So when they investigated a Ren-Contra and Bill Clinton's Whitewater, that was under a different set of laws.
So after 99, after they did that to Bill Clinton, they switched that because they didn't want it ever happening to them again.
So now what Bob Mueller actually works for the Department of Justice, he's under Rod Rosenstein.
So he turns in his report to Rod Rosenstein.
And then Rod Rosenstein, he decides what to do with it And how much of it to leak and how much of it to make public and whatnot.
And so the point is they're making is this is all turning out to end, like we said, a big nothing burger.
All those indictments they've gotten on Mueller, and that's all for stuff that happened before the campaign.
They have nothing to do with Russia and the intervention in our 20.
So this is how propaganda works.
Just so you know, so anyway, were you surprised that, I'm surprised at how fast Politico and mainstream places are starting to say this stuff.
Well, it's been very quiet for the past six weeks, couple of months on this front.
And, you know, you could interpret that one way.
You could say that, oh, maybe the big bomb is about to drop.
Yeah.
But it turns out maybe there's no bomb at all.
And like you say, it's a distraction.
So here's where this came from.
Frankly, Jimmy, I'm disappointed in Politico.
All right, that's it.
Okay.
So here's where.
So how did this all get started?
I've showed you this before.
I'll show it to you again very briefly.
So that's the book Shattered by Jonathan Allen and Amy Parnes.
And this is inside that book.
For a couple of hours, this is right after the election where Hillary lost.
For a couple hours with Shake Shack containers littering the room, they went over the script that they would pitch to the press and the public.
Already Russian hacking was the centerpiece of the argument.
Within 24 hours of her concession speech, campaign chair John Podessa and manager Robbie Mook assembled her communications team at the Brooklyn headquarters to engineer the case that the election wasn't entirely on the up and up.
So that's what they were saying Trump was going to do.
Trump was going to, when he lost, say that they suppressed the votes and had illegal immigrants.
He was going to try to undermine the validity of the election, and that's what people were afraid of.
That's exactly what Hillary Clinton did.
That's very Machiavellian, isn't it?
You accuse your opponent of the exact thing you're doing.
And that's exactly.
Oh, and so when did this all come about?
Well, I've showed you this before.
What is this, Jimmy?
This is an internal document from the Hillary Clinton campaign.
It's from a guy named Pete Brodnitz, and it was delivered June 26, 2015.
So this was an internal polling that they did.
And he delivered this to the, and what did they find out?
What's this all about?
What's the conclusion?
I'm going to read you the conclusion.
Secretary Clinton's top vulnerability as tested in this poll is the attack that claims as Secretary of State, she signed off on a deal that gave the Russian government control over 20% of Americans' uranium production after investors in the deal donated over $140 million to the Clinton Foundation.
That's from her own internal document.
They were telling her your biggest vulnerability is that you are seen to be giving away our uranium production to the Russians for a payoff.
Half of all likely voters are less likely to support Hillary Clinton after hearing that statement, and 17% are much less likely to support her after hearing that statement.
So they knew this was her vulnerability.
And here is from WikiLeaks revealed, here's from December.
So that was from June.
They delivered that to her in June of 2015.
In December of 2015, this is a John Podesta email.
And what does the email say?
This is from December of 2015.
It says the best approach is to slaughter Donald Trump for his bromance with Putin, but not to go too far betting on Putin, RE Syria.
They were planning, that's their plan.
They did it.
And so they're worried about the legitimacy.
Remember, they were saying Donald Trump.
And then not only did they do this, they also said, oh, Donald Trump's going to try to undermine the legitimacy of the election.
That's exactly what they've done ever since.
So you have a dumb Machiavellian accuse your opponent of the exact thing you're guilty of.
By the way, they said that the whole thing about him being Donald Trump colluded to back channel information from Russia to get negative information on Hillary Clinton to help that.
That was what the accusation was.
That's exactly what the Hillary Clinton campaign did.
They hired a spy in England who then contacted people inside the Kremlin, paid them money to give them stories about Donald Trump that they then gave to the Hillary Clinton campaign.
So this is amazing.
This is how propaganda works.
And of course, just like they got all their minions in the press, remember Ed Schultz said he wasn't allowed to even cover Bernie Sanders and they had to prop up Donald Trump.
That was the Pied Piper strategy that the Clinton campaign gave to NBC and they gave to everybody else.
But we only have confirmation that it was actually carried out at NBC because Schultz told us the truth because he got fired.
So anyway, that's now.
Let me just throw it over to my panel.
That's where that comes from.
It came, and it's in that book.
Everybody's read that book.
I can't believe that everyone just pretends.
Well, this is how propaganda works, right?
It's selective reporting.
We had Seymour Hirsch on the Ralph Nader Radio Hour.
People tell people who Seymour Hirsch is.
Seymour Hirsch is probably the premier investigative reporter in history.
My Life Massacre.
Neili Massacre, Abu Ghraib.
Yeah, that's him.
Yeah, he had a lot of, did a lot of great reporting parallel to Bob Woodward on Watergate.
Right.
So he's an amazing reporter.
He's an amazing reporter and still going strong.
And you had him on?
We had him on, and he was asked about Russian hacking, and he knows, he knows all these inside people.
And he said all the intelligence agencies were saying we have with high confidence that the Russians have hacked the election, whatever that means.
He said, I know what the word high confidence means when these people say this.
It means we don't really know.
We don't have evidence.
So I had Bill Binney, who was the head and NSA code breaker, and he said when he saw that the NSA had signed off on the report and they said they had high confidence, he said that means they don't have evidence.
And if it occurred, if the hacking occurred, the NSA would have the evidence because they have a record of everything that happens on the internet.
So the fact that they said high confidence means they don't have evidence, means they didn't happen.
That's what Bill Binney said.
And you're saying Seymour.
It's the same thing.
It's the same.
They know the same code.
Yeah.
Yeah.
In the high confidence code for we don't really know.
Or we don't have the evidence.
Yeah.
Exactly right.
So I don't want to go on too long about this and I don't want to gloat too much about this, but again, I do.
I want to.
Oh, you want to.
I do.
I want to, but I don't want to be seen to be distasteful.
But I just want to remind people, because this is worth going over again.
Right after the election, Obama met with Putin, and Obama did not discuss the Russian election meddling with Putin.
President Obama did not discuss Russia's alleged meddling in the U.S. elections.
His short conversation with Vladimir Putin on he didn't.
They didn't talk Barack Obama.
Why he said that's behind us?
Because he knew the BS they were spinning.
And it's all it was.
And why are they want us to talk about Russia?
Because the Democrats have no message.
Go to you.
What are you going to do differently?
Well, I don't think that people want a new direction.
Iron values unify us.
That's why they have no message.
The Democrats could right now run on ending the wars, Medicare for all, and free college, and they would sweep back into power, and they won't do it.
Those are enormously popular issues.
We just, again, on our show, we had Michael Leidy, who used to be from National Militaries United, which is the biggest union pushing for Medicare for all.
And he said there's a huge gap between the donor class and the people.
And 85%.
He said, why wouldn't you do what 85% of your party wants you to do?
Right.
Which is when they poll Democrats, they want 85% want Medicare for all.
And it's because they're answering to the donor class.
And they'd rather talk about Russia, even though, and this is from last 2017.
Here's the Washington Post reporter.
He was on the NBC, MSNBC, and here's what he was telling people.
I just wanted to say one other takeaway as I leave Atlanta is the Russia issue and President Trump's handling of these investigations as special counsel.
When I'm in Washington, that's a consuming issue for Democrats.
It alarms even some Republicans on the ground in Georgia.
Moderate suburban Republicans were not talking about Russia.
So if Democrats want to win them over, they perhaps have to listen to Congressman Ford, who's talking about this economic message, because I just don't see Russia breaking through yet with Republican voters as an issue that's going to turn them to the left.
Nobody cares.
People worry about how they're going to pay their health care, how they're going to pay their kids for college, how they're going to get a living wage, how they're going to make their car last another three years.
That's what people are worried about.
People aren't worried about, did someone hack into the DNC server and then reveal.
And then people, that's the whole thing, too.
People forget.
The whole charge was that Russia somehow hacked into the DNC server and they swung the election by revealing information.
What was that information?
That information was that the 2016 campaign was rigged, the primary, that they were cheating.
All it revealed was the id, is what they were really thinking.
Yes.
I mean, we talk about Ralph.
He was mentioned in those emails, and he wrote an open letter with a bunch of other people on minimum wage.
Why aren't you running on the minimum wage, raising the minimum wage?
And the email was from a Walmart board member or a Walmart executive who was working on the campaign, or Huma Abedin.
It was one of those exchanges where they said, you know, this guy, he's pretty marginalized.
I don't think we even need to answer this.
Really?
Oh, that was one of the emails.
That was one of the WikiLeaks emails.
Hillary Clinton was on the board.
She used to be on the board of Walmart.
So, of course, she already has alignment with the power, the people, the power structure.
She's lying with.
Okay, so maybe you can answer this question, both of you.
All right, so this woman who now has a 36% approval rating, like the lowest that's unchanged.
The lowest that you could possibly, that a candidate who's lost a presidency has right now.
Trump has something like 47%.
She supposedly garnered the popular vote.
Supposedly.
So how does she garner the popular vote, but only has 36 out-of-office percent rating?
Yeah, she has record low numbers for her.
Right.
I don't, you tell me.
I don't know.
Steve, you tell her.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Right?
I mean, I don't know.
I mean, and as far as the Russian thing going, if you're telling me the Russians are hacking the voting machines, then I might get a little excited about that.
But the voting machines are more likely to be hacked by the company that made them in America rather than the Russians.
So as far as like you say, and I've been into these issues for the last 15 or 20 years, it's scapegoating.
It's what's kind of fascinating to me is what we blame the right for, which is scapegoating.
Your problems are not us.
It's those immigrants who are taking your jobs.
The same dynamic applies on a different scale when the mainstream Democratic Party is scapegoating people like Ralph Nader or Russian.
They want to do everything but look in the mirror.
And that's why we are in the state we're in now.
I just go ahead, Stephanie.
I don't think they want to look in the mirror.
I think Nancy Pelosi, when she says with a straight face, we're going to continue doing business as usual.
She means it.
She means it.
And she means it because her donor class.
That's right.
What's that?
What couldn't possibly change?
This is who we are.
This is what you're getting.
You're getting the shit sandwich.
You know, someone said on Twitter, you know, the Democrats are like Homer Simpson, right?
When he, for Christmas, he gave his wife a bowling ball with Homer on it.
She's like, I don't even bowl.
Well, that's what you're getting.
And that's what the Democrats are.
Like, I don't want this.
That's what you're getting.
Sorry.
You're getting Kamala Harris.
You're getting Corey Booker.
You're getting Claire McCaskill.
You're getting Joe Manson.
You're getting Chuck Schumer.
You're getting Nancy Pelosi.
You're getting Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
That's what you're getting.
That's what we have.
And that's what you're getting.
And if you are progressive, we will turn you.
And people that I encounter always ask the wrong questions.
They're always asking, who's out there to me?
Who's out there?
Which is just reverse of what it should be.
I ask them, what do you want?
What's your bottom line?
Where's the line that can't be crossed?
And for me, I say, personally, I say Medicare for all and getting off of fossil fuels.
I don't vote for anybody who doesn't subscribe to that.
So it's the one place where the democracy gives you the power, which is your vote.
You shouldn't hand it over and say, okay, who's out there?
Who's been cast by the powers that be that I'm allowed to vote for, who may or may not align with what I feel?
I think it's laziness on voters and parts because we're kind of trained to do that instead of saying, no, this is what I believe in, and this is my bottom line.
And nobody gets my vote unless, and believe me, you have that attitude.
If everybody had an attitude, they'd come flying to you.
So you're telling me you voted for Jill Stein instead of Hillary Clinton?
That makes you a bad person, Steve.
You'll never work in Hollywood again.
You saw her at that RT thing.
You know, yeah, she's obviously in the pocket of Putin, too.
When people say that about Jill Stein, it is unbelievable.
When I read and people say, I saw you with Putin.
So people who represent factions or parties aren't supposed to meet with other heads of leaders.
No.
Okay.
No.
No.
Okay.
Well, there you go.
Russia Gators.
I can't say I didn't warn you.
Now Politico is warning you.
Prepare for disappointment.
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Oh, God, it's Barack Obama again.
Hey, people.
Spot mail bombs to me, all right?
Drop them from the air like civilized people.
That's what separates us from the animals.
Hi, Barack.
I'm bored.
Talk to me.
You're bored?
You were a two-term president.
You can't find anything to do besides taking money from Wall Street.
You mean like building houses for the poor?
Yeah.
Or campaigning nonstop around the country for Medicare for all.
Yeah, yeah.
Or sound any alarm about climate change and tell people to stop eating so much meat to sloppy up to sprout the smash.
Yes.
Well, guess what?
Michelle and I are doing our part by hanging with the Bush family.
George Sr. is old and frail.
He needs our support and prayers.
And George W is so charming.
Remember when you gave that mint to Michelle?
And your fat fucking face, incivility person.
According to a new study, during your presidency, 42% of all cancer patients lost their life savings to medical costs.
Is that civil?
You don't let me finish.
Can I finish, please?
Can we have a little civility at last in our discourse?
I'm sorry.
Go ahead, but what about the 42%?
Totally unacceptable, Jimmy.
It's a hard figure to deal with.
We're the richest country in the world, and yet we got 58% of these cancer folks not pulling their own weight, while the other 42% give their all.
It's not fair to all those other dead cancer folks who lost their savings.
Those 58% got to step up to the plate.
The strain on insurance companies has to be unbearable.
Why is this happening under Obamacare?
Look, I told America that cancer folks can keep their own folksy cancer and chose their own unaffordable cancer treatments, didn't I?
Do you know how much a bottle of insulin costs?
That's one of those trick questions like, how much does a gallon of milk cost?
Because if it is, I'd say around 800 bucks.
And you don't find that uncivil?
Read my lips, Ivanka.
We can't lower insulin prices in our lifetime.
Insulin companies are just too big to fail.
You know, the majority of Americans want Medicare for all.
Why isn't your party running on that?
We've got to stop demonizing those Wall Street folks, Jimmy Door.
Right now, the biggest threat to our democracy is indifferent, discontented people with bad attitudes.
Whenever I see a frowning voter on the street, I tell them they'd be much prettier if they just smile.
You can try.
It's contagious.
Smile.
Yeah, I don't feel like it.
I can't hear that smile of yours, Jimmy.
Your face is too pretty not to smile.
Come on.
All right.
Can you hear me smiling now?
Oh, that's a good little voter.
You know, you're not like all my crazy ex-voters.
You're different.
You're pure.
Thank you.
Now, blow me and get me dinner.
I'm going bowling with the guys down at the outswatch.
Hi, everybody.
Welcome to Jimmy Door Show.
I'm here with special guests, Steve Scrovan, is here, hilarious comedian, and Steph Zamorano.
Hi, Jim.
Hi.
Steve also could be also check out Steve on the Ralph Nader radio show.
What's it called?
Ralph Nader Radio Hour.
That's what I was right on it.
One word off.
What word off?
Hour show.
I'm just, I want to let people know that it lasts an hour, actually, 57 and a half minutes.
That's right, 57.
But it was a little clunky to say the Ralph Nader radio 57 and a half minutes.
Yeah.
So we just went, we rounded up.
So I saw this poll.
Everybody was talking about this poll last week, actually.
CNN did a poll, and they say Joe Biden holds a big lead over the other potential 2020 Democratic candidates.
Do you guys believe that?
I don't believe that.
Was that written by Whitney Cummings?
William Cummings.
Because that would make sense if it was Whitney Cummings, because that's funny.
Right?
Yeah.
So here, this is from, it says former Vice President Joe Biden holds a wide lead over other potential candidates to challenge President Donald Trump in 2020.
A CNN survey found.
Now, is the survey the same thing as a poll?
I don't know.
About a third of the respondents named Joe Biden as their choice to carry the Democratic banner in the next presidential election, 33%, while Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders came in second as the choice of 13% of the respondents.
Two female senators followed, 9% favoring Kamala Harris, and 8% Elizabeth Warren.
And here's the source.
It was a CNN poll that was conducted by a group called SSRS on October 4th through October 7th.
And a random sample, they called landlines and cell phones of 1,009 adults.
1,009.
1,000.
I just rounded up the Ralph Nader radio hour to make it an hour, 57.30.
They couldn't get 1,000 or they couldn't get 1,010.
1,009.
What's that magic number?
And I know they're saying random landlines, but we know there is a whole demographic that doesn't have landlines.
Well, this is a great point.
And this is exactly.
So here's from that report.
So I went, I don't know if you can, you probably can't see this.
It's too small.
So I'll say, this is what it is.
So it has.
Oh, thank you.
It has over here, it has all the lists of the top five people.
So there's Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, and John Kerry were the top five.
And then here's the vote totals.
So I'll give you a close-up so you can see.
So here's the vote totals on the income of the people that were surveyed.
They're all under 50 grand.
It looks like no, but not applicable, not available.
So all the people in this were over $50,000 income.
Isn't that what that looks like to you?
Like, I'm not official.
I'm not a, what do you call professional poll reader?
But if you look here, it goes across the total.
And so if you break these down by income level, by income level, so the 33% who wanted Joe Biden, 34% of them made over 50K.
We don't know how many made under.
I don't understand this.
So it looks like they only have data for people.
So it looked like all these people that they called or polled made over 50K to me.
That's what it looks like to me.
Now, again, they can afford the landline.
I think that's maybe.
You need 50K to afford a landline.
Yeah, nobody.
Okay, doesn't that still.
Okay, so I don't even understand the chart because I thought something should add up to 100%.
But it has these NAs.
So here's another.
So here they break it down by age.
So it's too small.
So I'll blow it up for you.
So Joe Biden gets 33%.
How many of that 33% are 18 to 34?
NA, not available.
How many 35 to 40?
NA, not available.
So, but 65, so 45 plus, though they can make that number.
Over here, it says 45 plus, 39%.
So old people like us.
So it seems like rich, old people is who they really polled.
Yeah.
And all the other categories are they didn't have enough to statistically make a thing or something.
Rich old people who aren't interested in Bernie Sanders.
So again, we all know Bernie Sanders would wipe the floor with Joe fucking Biden.
And that's why I'm like, wait a minute.
This is no way this poll is right.
So if you Jimmy, this poll is right.
That is why Jeb Bush is president today.
So again, it looks like they only had polling people who were rich and old or wealthier and old.
50,000 is rich.
That's not rich, but most, you know, that 50% of all wage earners earn $30,000 or less.
You know that, right?
So, yeah, people are hurting.
And, well, at this stage of the game, you know, like six years ago, it was going to be Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton.
It's name recognition.
Yeah.
I mean, the only reason George W. Bush ever became president is because he had the last name Bush and people recognized.
No doubt about it.
So that's what it is.
So these polls are so, I mean, you've just, you know, in a way, you've undermined all of the data here and revealed it to be nothing.
But it's all who is, who do people recognize?
Who would be the next guest host of the country?
You know, and so Joe Biden is the name they recognize.
But, you know, if they should have done a poll of, hey, we're going to poll people 35 and under.
What do they think?
But it seems to me they really only polled people who were 45 and over.
This only really reflects those groups, people who are 45 and older, and make $50,000 or more.
So I'm going to challenge the veracity of this poll because just on its face, it doesn't make any sense.
Joe Biden has a wide lead.
Are you fucking crazy?
You know, everybody can't stop talking about Joe Biden.
Joe Biden, right?
I mean, every party I go to, they're talking about Joe Biden.
He's been running for president literally since 1988.
88.
Yeah.
1988.
He's been running for president.
And I think the last time he did it was in 2012.
Yeah.
When Obama was in 2008.
2008, I mean, 2008.
Yeah.
And got eliminated very quickly.
Very quickly.
I don't know how.
Oh, Jesus.
I don't.
No, no.
No way.
So anyway.
Can I just say this, Jimmy, that as if CNN doesn't have any access to be able to properly survey America, right?
They couldn't even go to a couple college campuses to give us kind of like a sensibility of what a certain group of people would be voting for.
Like, it's such an incomplete survey.
And I'd like to see what the questions were asked.
It was like, so who do you like?
Do you like Joe Biden?
Like, that's how I feel.
It was pictures and you point to a picture of a person you recognize.
Yes.
I just wish they would have done a larger sample so that they could get these categories filled in.
I think that was the problem.
They had too small of a sample, 1,009 People.
Well, why don't you sample 2,000 or 5,000?
And then maybe you get some of these other groups filled in instead of just over 45.
Listen, I'm not sure.
So, this is like, so it seems.
Go ahead.
I'm sorry.
I was just looking at that whole chart.
And that to me would be like something if a student turned into me and I'm like, that's your chart?
That's your chart, right?
Nothing's applicable.
Oh, go fuck yourself.
Do it over again.
If, if nice language, brother.
I can't say that in high school.
No, that's right.
By the way, if I'm reading this correctly, it says 50 to 64 unapplicable.
So 45 plus.
So they interviewed people between 45 and 49.
But 35 and 49 is.
No, I'm guessing.
I'm guessing like this group, there wasn't enough people in either of these groups to make a statistic out of it.
But 45 and over is a big enough group to make a statistic.
But they didn't do a 45 and under, right?
So even under 45, not applicable.
Over 45, applicable.
So you see that?
So most of the people they did survey were over fucking 45 years old and had more than $50,000 in income.
So they're not the average people.
So that again, I was right.
My bullshit detector went off when I heard that.
I'm like, what?
A wide lead over Bernie Sanders?
I get old people might like Joe Biden.
And that's exactly why I was right.
That was right.
Yeah.
Okay.
You broke the story again, James.
You've ripped the cover off the hypocrisy of bulls.
Yes.
Rick Perry's on the line.
Hello.
Well, you better run after it.
What's that?
Wait, start over.
Is your refrigerator working?
Yes.
Well, then, you should probably look at the warranty or something like that.
Can we start over?
Sure.
Knock, knock.
Hi, this is the oil secretariat, Rick Perry, here to talk about the important issues affecting all human Americans, be they male or the weaker sex, be they young or old and useless.
Any questions?
Yeah, what was that attempted joke about?
I always like to break the ice with a joke or amusing quip of sorts.
You see, I do it to cushion the blow of bad news, for I have called to warn everybody about an upcoming attack.
Wow, that sounds important.
Who's attacking us?
The cybers.
The cybers?
Yeah, some kids sitting in a basement will attack us cyberly or in China or Russia, but mostly some kids sitting in a basement.
But never to fear, citizens of Americans.
For we are now receiving help from the private sector, whatever that is.
Do we know when this attack will occur?
Yes, we have narrowed it down to sometime in the future.
In what form will it take, cyber speaking?
There will be attacks on our grid, cyber grid attacks.
But do not fear, for we have some incredibly bright men and women working in our labs that are hand in glove with the private sector.
Uh-huh.
Please don't ask me what that means.
Okay, but what does that mean?
It means shut up.
Okay, but what labs and what bright men and women and which private sector?
We have labs and they have men and women in white lab coats.
And the sector is private, so I'm not at liberty to disclose that right now.
But we're safe until that unspecified time in the future when the attack will occur.
Roger that, OP-1 Kenope.
Because we are not like less developed countries, such as the Indians.
They use 73% of their consumptions on oils.
These Indianans need to be taught our more developed Western ways of energy consumption reduction.
Are you talking about Indiana or India?
Yes.
Okay, but what are you doing to prepare for the upcoming cyber attacks?
I'm making the grid resilient and reliable.
And by that, I mean I have no fucking idea because there are three words I don't understand in that sentence.
What are they?
Oh, no.
You're not getting me stuck in that trap again.
Three words are grid, resilient, and wait.
Can you hold on a second?
I have to hang up the phone.
I have to hang up the phone.
Guess what?
They're voting on the TPP.
You know, the TPP Trump pulled out of it here in the United States.
And if you know what it's called, the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement.
And what it is, it's an agreement made by the richest, most powerful people in the world to screw over workers and people and sovereign citizens in their own country.
So what it is, is a trade deal.
And they don't, the environmentalists don't get a seat at the table.
Union workers don't get a seat at the table.
Regular citizens don't get a seat at the table.
Even governments, you know who really just sits at the table?
Corporations sit around trying to figure out a way to screw you.
And then they call that a trade deal.
And so, in fact, after Trump pulled out of the TPP, they changed the name of it.
The TPP is now officially known as the Comprehensive and Progressive Trans-Pacific Trans-Pacific Partnership.
Let's look at that Orwellian name.
Comprehensive and progressive Trans-Pacific Partnership after the United States pulled out of the agreement.
And the remaining countries are still Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, and Vietnam.
These nations make up around 13.5% of the world GDP.
Now, talking to us now to fill us in on what exactly is going on in New Zealand with the TPP is Susie Dawson.
She's an activist, a journalist, former party leader, and current president of the Internet Party of New Zealand.
She lives in Moscow, Russia now, because she's seeking temporary asylum due to political persecution she's experienced in New Zealand as a result of her work.
Susie Dawson, thanks for being here.
Now, the TPP, you were telling me before we went on air that there's a lot of opposition to this.
In fact, you organized, correct?
In fact, here's a picture.
Let me put it up.
That's a picture of a protest that you just sent me against the TPP in New Zealand.
Look at all those people.
So tell me about the work you've done organizing against the TPP, the education, and what the result of that was.
So Dr. Jane Kelsey, who's a fantastic New Zealander, she's a professor at the Auckland University School of Law, began an organization called It's Our Future New Zealand.
And she began in, I think about 2008 to build resistance to this trade agreement.
She was way ahead of the curve long before anybody knew what the TPP was.
And I was fortunate enough in 2011 through to 2015 to come on board with their social media team, help run their Twitter accounts and to promote and to cover the actions on the ground in opposition to the TPP in New Zealand, along with a fantastic media team.
And we managed to penetrate the public consciousness, to get it into the mainstream coverage in New Zealand, and to educate every single New Zealander about what the TPP is, why it's so Problematic, why we don't want it.
And New Zealand is mobilized in their tens of thousands.
We had more than two dozen towns and cities in New Zealand taking action, huge marches and actions over a course of years.
And what you see there is the most recent action, which was in Auckland, which yet again was tens of thousands of Kiwis, which is big numbers for a country that only has 3 million people.
So you were telling me before about 95% of the people in New Zealand oppose the TPP.
Is that true?
Yeah, so there were polls which were run by It's Our Future, which showed, I believe, 94% in opposition.
But it really doesn't matter whether it's 80 or 70.
I didn't know in New Zealand a single person who thought it was a good idea.
In fact, the only people we ever heard from that thought it was a good idea was the then ruling National Party, which was led by ex-member of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, John Key.
Wow.
So right now in power in New Zealand is the left-wing party.
Correct.
The left-wing party.
So now tell me what just happened yesterday in New Zealand.
There was a vote on the TPP.
And how did so 94% of the public is against the TPP?
How did that vote turn out?
So the vote yesterday was 111 to 8 in favor of passing the CPTPP, which is the lipstick on a pig, basically.
They've renamed it to try and confuse people and make them think that it's something different than the TPP.
They've made a big fuss out of some minor changes.
So let me say they've won.
Let me just reiterate: 94% of the country in polling is against the TPP, but the vote was, what was the vote again?
111 to 8.
Every single political party sided with the passage of the TPP, with the exception of the New Zealand Green Party, who are the eight votes that were dissenting.
And so it doesn't really matter.
Again, we're experiencing this in the United States.
So Barack Obama was screaming, we have to pass the TPP while Hillary Clinton was trying to win Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.
And they already had experienced trade deals like NAFTA, which screwed them.
And they knew the TPP was going to screw them even harder.
And then they wonder why people didn't come out to vote.
Well, people don't come out to vote because they're voting for get punched with the left fist or the right fist.
It doesn't matter.
And so you're experiencing the same thing.
Or the people in New Zealand experience the exact 94% of the people are.
So we're living in a world now where it's just a sham democracies, right?
These are sham democracies.
The United States was proven as an oligarchy.
Now it's the same.
I never thought New Zealand would be like that.
So you're saying New Zealand, the representatives are doing the exact opposite of what the people who voted for them want to do, which that's, as Chomky says, that's the basic level of functioning democracy is that the representatives have to represent the people who vote for them.
And if that's not happening, you don't even have the basic form of democracy.
So that is what's happening, right?
Correct.
So we had another mass movement in New Zealand called the GCSB movement, which was against mass surveillance in the wake of Edward Snowden's disclosures and disclosures about illegal spying on New Zealanders, one of whom myself is included.
And that was another example of mass mobilization.
And when the bill to retroactively immunize the spies, the New Zealand spies engaged in mass surveillance went to the parliament, the parliament passed it yet again against the will of the majority of the people.
So with the TPP, at these big actions that you have photos and videos of in New Zealand, we had representatives from all these political parties stand up and say, we are against this agreement.
We will not sign this agreement when we get into government.
We are listening to you, the people, and we're with you.
And we've just seen how with us they are with this passage of 111 to 8 in New Zealand.
They're not with us at all.
So they are on side with each other across the political divide.
And I'd just like to point out, it's really interesting because we often hear in rhetoric from actually from within the activism sphere, oh, left-wingers and right-wingers shouldn't be in bed together on anti-war or pro-WikiLeaks or these different issues.
But the left-wing and the right-wing politicians are in bed together and are working together to push these issues that suit them and not us.
So maybe we're the ones that have to unite because right now the united force in the parliament is the left-wing and the right-wing politician against our interests.
So perhaps it's time for us to unite around specific issues and specific causes so that we can get better traction for our issues.
So right here in the United States, we have something very similar.
Everybody wants Medicare for all.
85% of the Democrats want it.
Now a majority of Republicans want it.
Nobody in either party, neither party is pushing that as a platform agenda.
Medicare for all, they just won't give us health care in the United States, no matter how popular it is with the people.
And I keep wondering, well, exactly how much longer do the people take this?
It's our country.
It's not theirs.
And so I was wondering, what do you think is going to happen in New Zealand?
If nine out of ten people are against the TPP and that it just passed overwhelmingly, if that doesn't make the people get into the streets, what will?
Do you think that'll happen?
Well, from what I can see so far, the New Zealand public has been pacified by the appearance of a friendlier, kinder, socialist-leaning government, which is what we've been told came into power in 2017.
Now, in the previous eight years in New Zealand, nine years, we had, as I said, an ex-member of the Federal Reserve Bank running the show.
We had a massive privatization agenda.
We had skyrocketing homelessness.
We have had the degradation of our public health infrastructure and the push towards privatization on that front.
All of our public services privatized.
Even the bloody council entertainment hall where you go and see concerts gets privatized.
Everything gets privatized.
And the entire country has been sinking into poverty and destitution.
Now the public has been sold with this promise of the left-wing Labor government are going to come in and fix all of that.
But we see where their priorities lie.
They're just now one year in government and this is their focus passing the TPP.
But the Green Party actually was the only people in the whole legislature that stood up against it.
Again, the Green Party.
Absolutely.
But let's keep, remember, you're a bad person if you vote for Green.
Well, listen, thanks for giving us that update.
It's amazing to hear it happening in New Zealand.
I just didn't think New Zealand, I thought they were much more progressive and they just wouldn't let stupid stuff like this happen.
But I'm realizing just from traveling to Europe and now talking to you, this is global, right?
So I've tried to tell people that the oligarchs actually are organized.
And some people will say, well, when you say organized, they're not having meetings.
No, they are.
They have meetings.
It's called when the people get together to discuss the TPP.
That's the world's oligarchs getting together to organize against workers.
That's what that is.
Any meeting of the world.
This is globalization, Jimmy.
This is globalization at work.
TPP is the epitome of globalization.
Yes.
International corporates, transnational corporates can supersede national domestic law.
This is globalization.
And we see across the so-called progressive left pro-globalization agendas in the United States, in New Zealand and throughout the Western world.
Well, Susie, thanks for being a fighter and thanks for all this information and what's happening in New Zealand.
I think it's important that people who watch this show, which people do watch this show globally, you know, there needs to be a global push for unity of workers.
So people have talked about this for over 100 years that we need to have an international workers union.
And I think it's time and I think it can happen now with the internet.
I'm not a brilliant organizer by any means, but there are people who are.
And I think we need to, I think for the first step to that is the consciousness awareness that we're all in the same boat now globally.
We're all fighting back against the bankers and the neoliberals for our very existence.
And you're right.
They're privatizing everything and they're trying to chip away at whatever safety net you have.
And they just gave trillions of dollars and tax cuts here to the richest people in the country.
And now they're going to try and take it out of our Social Security and our Medicare to pay for that.
So that's happening.
Go ahead.
We have to ask what is the fundamental role of government.
We pay them taxes.
They provide us services.
Right.
But what's been happening is that they've been taking those services away and we still have to pay them money.
You have to ask, you know, who's not keeping up their end of the bargain.
It's common sense that we should have access to education, that we should have access to health care, that we should not be signing our sovereignty away to international tribunals run for the benefit of transnational corporations.
So, I mean, I think whether you're left or right or wherever you're on the political spectrum, it's pretty obvious.
We want education, we want health care, we don't want war, and we want people to be looked after.
Yes, everybody wants the same things.
You know, I keep saying here in the United States, if the Democrats would run on a platform of ending the wars, Medicare for all, free college and a living wage, they would sweep back into power, yet they just won't do it.
That's how corrupt the political parties here in the United States.
Any of them can run on that platform and they would sweep into power and they just won't do it.
So it's just, it's the fundamentals of democracy.
It's called representing the interests of the people who vote for you.
That's the basic fundamental of democracy.
And we don't, by a long shot, we don't have that in the United States.
And now we're seeing that you don't have that either in New Zealand.
And if you don't have it in a place like New Zealand, it's not really existing.
So I, you know, again, time for real revolution.
This playing along and playing by this, you know, voting for a puppet on the left or a puppet on the right.
This is going to have to end soon or else the world is going to end soon.
Right now, we all know what's happening with climate change.
Everybody who's, you know, science-based knows what's happening.
And a catastrophe is right around the corner.
So it's all around us.
It's all around us.
It's all around us.
No matter what country you're in, you cannot escape it.
So we'll see what it's going to take for people to get motivated to actually rise up against their governments.
I would think that 99 out of 10 people being against the TPP, and yet it passes overwhelmingly in New Zealand.
To me, if that doesn't get you in the streets, I guess it never will come.
But listen, Susie, thanks so much for filling us in.
This has been really enlightening, and I hope to talk to you again soon.
If that doesn't get them in the streets, maybe watching your interviews with Chris Hedges will because they were a wake-up call.
Thank you so much.
Oh, you're welcome.
Thank you.
Wow, Mitt Rodney's calling me on the old out-of-touch white guy phone.
I wonder what this is about.
I've got a beef to pick with you, young man, and a bone to settle that you as well.
You've really got my knickers in a bunch.
The last time you got me this steamed was when you were in Monaco, and you wouldn't stop posting pictures of your lunch.
Shame.
I'm listening.
Last week, you did something that really crisps my bacon, you Jack E-Lam lookalike.
You ragged on me for using dated references from old TV shows.
Well, you were using a lot of references only familiar to people over 50.
Oh, well, excuse me.
Hey, you know, there's a lot more to that phone call, but we don't have time in today's podcast.
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Today's show was written.
That's right.
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