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Hello, who's this?
Jimmy.
Hello, who is this?
This is Congressman Peter King of New York.
Oh, hi, Representative King.
Yeah, how's Trix?
Oh, you know, well, not bad.
I mean, thanks for asking.
Hey, what's up with you?
Well, hey.
You know, Jimmy, I used to position myself politically as the tough Republican guy with regards to the border and, you know, immigration.
We gotta make sure bad people don't sneak into this country, you know?
ISIS and shit.
Keep them out.
I was hard-nosed with my dead Irish eyes and my flat top of justice sticking out of my head.
Proudly defending our liberties.
Right.
But this situation, have you seen this at the at the border?
Yes, Congressman King.
What the fuck?
I know, right?
I thought I was the hardest hardliner, the toughest kid on the block.
But then Trump comes over with his weird gang of psychopaths.
Jimmy, they got concentration camps for babies.
Yes.
It's not even something I could imagine.
Yeah.
Like, hey, Pete, what's the worst thing that could be that people could do?
I probably say, I don't know, a circus for millennials?
A concentration camp for babies?
I wouldn't even get to that.
No argument here, buddy.
I'm all discompobulated.
All of a sudden, I'm a bleeding hot liberal on border security issues.
What the fuck?
So that's Steven Miller, too.
That guy who looks like an evil pencil.
And Sessions, who looks like an evil mouse.
We're living at a Disney cartoon from the 50s.
True.
And the justification they're given to that these are all MS-DRDs who are using the children as shields to get into the country and murder everybody.
That's what these people are saying.
But these are clearly families fleeing MS-Ds.
They're families.
Yeah, yeah, you're kind of preaching to the converted here, Mr. King.
I mean, just because you say a thing doesn't make that thing true.
You get to say that.
Say a lie.
I'm going to let you keep going because I have a feeling you're on the edge of an epiphany.
It's all fucking bullshit, Jimmy.
Yes.
The Republican Party, it's just Trump and its goons now.
Well?
Well, what?
Are you going to leave the party?
Leave the party?
What the fuck you talking about?
I'm a Republican congressman.
What a hard art, Jimmy.
Oh, we were so close, you and I together.
Look, I'm too far along at the game.
These party hoppers disgust me.
I'm old school.
You stick with your damn party to dick it in.
And through its hijacking by those whose black, ghoulish souls have never once felt the slightest touch of humanity.
Call me old-fashioned.
I guess I will.
I can't even object much to this publicly.
That's frustrating.
I could never voice his opinion what I really feel about this.
My only public statement on the matter was urging a suspension of these activities.
That's why I call you to have a private phone call and get shit off my chest.
Representative King, you do know that these calls are recorded and aired on the Jimmy Door show, right?
what?
laughter laughter laughter Yeah, people are going to hear this.
You're that Jimmy Door?
Yes.
I thought you were just a guy with the same name.
Son of a bitch.
This whole time I've been on that wat job show and didn't even know it.
God damn it.
Yeah, sorry.
I thought you knew the deal.
Well, it's a dill pickle if I've ever seen one.
You want me to not air this?
Ah, fuck.
It doesn't matter.
I'm bulletproof politically.
My district votes GOP no matter what.
And if anyone tries to primary me, the Knights of Columbus know what to do.
They take care of shit downtown, if you know what I mean.
All right, Mr. King.
Good talking with you.
Okay, I'm gonna go get drunk and listen to Dropkick Murphys and cry about those Mexican kids.
Ha ha ha.
Oh.
I want to burn my neck.
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Oh, there's a secret guest on the 27th in Burbank, California.
Very special guest.
I'm sure you'll all be thrilled.
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I don't want to say anything.
Anyway, so let's get to the jokes before we get to the joke, shall we?
Hey, did you hear Peter Fonda's in trouble?
Yeah, Peter Fonda's in trouble for suggesting that Baron Trump be taken away from his parents and put in a cage as an exercise in empathy.
But hey, it's just locker room talk, am I right?
Come on.
This week, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirsten Nielsen said, quote, we do not have a policy of separating families at the border, period.
Adding, quote, it's just an unwritten rule.
We're trying to make a policy.
Watch the space.
This week, protesters threw Kirsten Nielsen out of a Mexican restaurant in Washington, D.C. A horrified Trump spokesman said she left the restaurant shaken and in tears after being separated from her guacamole.
Turns out she's very sensitive.
She's very sensitive.
Patrons knew immediately who she was by her first order, Spanish lies.
Then she separated the popcorn from the baby corn.
She asked the waiter, waiter, what's this fly doing in my soup?
And the waiter answered, the backstroke, you racist Samantha B word.
Surprisingly, she's still a good tipper.
Nielsen, Kirsten Nielsen, says the children are being treated humanely because they all have TVs to watch at their detention centers.
Just think, give them access to a microwave and Congress can call them welfare queens.
Ironically, Nielsen's Nielsen ratings are through the roof.
Disturbing fact, I've now become so familiar with what a dick Kirsten Nielsen is, I now know how to correctly spell her full name.
Her ancestors must have been from some sort of foreign country.
What's coming up on today's show?
We're going to go take a deep dive on immigration, what's been happening, how it all got started.
The New York Times actually castigated Barack Obama for handing over the infrastructure for detentions to Donald Trump.
We take a look at that.
Plus, Hillary Clinton amazingly turns out to be a hypocrite on this issue.
We take a look at that also.
Plus, some of the most horrific things the right-wing have been saying about this.
Laura Ingram compares detention centers to summer camps for kids, and it gets worse from there.
Plus, we got phone calls today from Jeff Sessions, Mitt Romney, and Representative Peter King.
Plus, our special guest this week is Abby Martin from Empire Files.
That's right, Abby Martin.
All right, that's coming up, plus a lot lot more.
That's today on the Jimmy Dorsey.
Hi, everybody.
Welcome to Jimmy Door Show.
We have special guests with us, Abby Martin from Empire Files is with us.
I said it right.
Hell yeah.
Hi, Abby Howell.
How are you doing?
Fantastic.
Awesome to be on, Jimmy.
Okay, and where can people find you?
Empirefiles.tv, Meteor Roots Radio with my brother Robbie, and my art site, AbbyMartin.org.
Oh, look at that.
Fantastic.
You have a lot going on over there.
So you know that Laura Ingram is a horrible person.
And the way you can tell is she wears a crucifix around her neck, right?
So anybody who's publicly religious like that is full of it.
And that includes the Pope.
And so here she is.
She's going to talk about immigration in one of the most disingenuous.
So this is like someone who considers themselves to be a Christian justifying the most horrific stuff in the world, ripping kids away from their parents because they're seeking asylum in the United States.
So let's listen to how horrible she is.
Full liberal outrage and the destruction of the rule of law.
That's the focus of tonight's angle.
Full liberal outrage.
Now, for too long, immigration law was ignored, frankly, and basically unenforced.
Oh, but.
That's just making up a lie.
That's just a lie.
That's just a lie.
Barack Obama deported even more people than Trump did for his first year.
Barack Obama deported more people than all the presidents combined since 1890.
So that's just a lie.
That's not true.
So her jumping off point is a lie.
And when you have to lie to make your argument, that means you don't have an argument.
And now what she's really doing is just sticking up for horrible, inhumane behavior of the most horrific kind.
It's that short of sticking up for murder.
And that's who Laura Ingram is.
She's a horrible person.
And here we go.
Tried to kind of enforce it in an ad hoc fashion, but its policies, which I'm going to get to in a moment, only ended up exacerbating our problems at the border.
So today we have a full-on crisis.
160% increase in the number of people illegally entering the United States from just last year.
Well, the president is responding with a zero tolerance message, which he reiterated today.
The United States will not be a migrant camp, and it will not be a refugee holding facility.
Won't be.
You look at what's happening in Europe.
You look at what's happening in other places.
We can't allow that to happen to the United States.
Not on my watch.
Now, the president is now doing what we should have been doing all along, prosecuting all border crashers.
They're not criminals because you cross the border.
People can come to the United States seeking asylum.
Did you know that 98% of the children, when given a lawyer, are granted asylum in the United States?
Do you know that those kids have a legal right to be here because what are they doing?
They're fleeing political persecution or actual violence in their own home country, certain death.
They're fleeing it.
So in a lot of places like El Salvador, Guatemala, there's a drug war happening that we've exported here in the United States, which got ramped up heavy right around 2013, 2014.
And that's why there's been such an influx of people coming here since then.
But guess what?
We still have net zero immigration in the United States.
So with all the fearmongering she's doing, she wants you to think we're being overwhelmed by immigrants illegally coming into our country.
We're not.
It's net zero immigration, meaning just as many immigrants come into our country and just as many leave.
So there is no crisis.
She's making this up.
This is again scapegoating people coming here for asylum or trying to have a better life.
They're not just sitting around going, I'm lazy.
Ah, maybe I'll just make a trek across Mexico, face almost certain death because I'm lazy and I want to go suck off the teeth in America.
That's not what's happening.
And like I said, the kids who are brought here have a right to be here legally because they're being granted asylum whenever they're granted a lawyer.
So here we go.
So if you enter the country illegally, you're breaking the law.
The United States is not an open repatriation center where any indigent person in the world feels free to just walk in and assume that all of us will take care of all of them and their families.
Again, that's that thing of, oh, these loafers.
Hey, why don't you go to a restaurant and see who's working at the restaurant?
When you eat a piece of fruit, guess who picked it?
So Mexicans are okay to raise your kids, pick your fruit, cook your food, wash your cars, cut your lawn.
You stupid Samantha B-word.
They're the ones who take care of us.
Process, and it has to be respected.
Homeland Security Chief Kirsten Nielsen said this today.
We will not apologize for the job we do or for the job law enforcement does for Duke for doing the job that the American people expect us to do.
Illegal actions have and must have consequences.
No more free passes, no more get out of jail free cards.
Again, immigrating to the United States is not an illegal act.
If you're coming here, you seek asylum, you're supposed to get a court hearing.
And when those kids are given a lawyer, they're granted asylum.
So this is, you're acting like, oh, there's terror.
So that's the big problem.
ICE was invented after 9-11, and it was put under the auspices of Department of Homeland Security.
So now ICE deals with immigration like they're all terrorists.
Instead of what they are, refugees seeking asylum in a place that's supposed to, that legally offers them asylum.
You know what it says on the Statue of Liberty?
Bring me your poor, huddled masses yearning to be free.
And what she would say, those people are fucking criminals.
Keep them out.
That's what he's saying.
She's a horrible person.
This is a bullshit take.
She's not sincere.
She's not, She knows what she's saying is bullshit.
So if you agree with her, you're a dupe because even she doesn't believe that shit.
And you notice she's not wearing her fucking cross when she does this segment.
I don't see the cross on her this segment.
She normally has a cross to let you know she's a hypocrite.
Now it's now you have to actually just figure it out by watching.
I'm going to play more of this because it gets even dumber.
Laura Ingram, I love her because she, you know, she was a plagiarist and that's why she couldn't be the communications director for Trump.
So now she's back on Fox bullshitting her through her teeth.
Again, this is all just partisan hackery because we know that this is just throwing red meat to the anti-immigrant base and just fostering this anti-immigrant stuff when basically she should love Obama's policies.
Right?
Why doesn't she love his policies?
This is the deporter-in-chief.
Deport 2 million people in more than Bush's entire term, like you said.
So I just don't understand.
It's just completely disingenuous, but I couldn't agree with you more.
Capitalism needs undocumented immigrants because they subsidize entire industries, the agricultural industry, like you said, the restaurants, car washes, maid services, hotel workers.
I mean, they love and depend on undocumented immigrants.
So they're using this to just like dredge up this base.
These are the most of these are the most vulnerable people.
They're poor.
They have no power, no money.
And when they come here, capitalism, our corporations exploit the shit out of them and they work their ass off.
But she's going to make you think they're a bunch of loafers who are trying to scam us.
And studies have proven that the states with the most amount of immigration have the best economies.
Well, consistent with American law, when a party is arrested, your children are either sent to relatives or they become wards of the state.
So since more illegal immigrants are rushing the border, more kids are being separated from their parents and temporarily housed in what are essentially summer camp.
Summer.
Look at the picture over her shoulder as she says these are essentially summer camps.
Do you see the picture?
There are people in cages lying on a floor.
What is it?
What is that?
Mylar?
Tinfoil or something.
Like a tinfoil blanket, like a mylar.
That's what that's summer camp to you, Laura.
Even your own bullshitting, if you turned your head just to the right, just a little bit, just turn your head a little bit, you'd be like, oh, I guess that oust me is being full of shit as I'm talking.
Yes.
Yes, the picture over your, your own picture over your shoulder reveals you to be a bullshit artist and a bad one.
It's like, here's the lie.
Now I'll fucking talk to you.
It's unbelievable.
Or as the San Diego Union Tribune described them today as looking like basically boarding schools.
Having lost the argument, and frankly, the last election, liberals have seized on the separated children and turned the into.
She goes like, like, it's not real.
Separated children.
No one's denying that that's happening, Laura, except you right now.
Trump admits they're separating children.
The Department of Homeland Security had admits they're separating children.
Corey Lewandowski, the entire fucking right wing, admits it.
They're happy about it.
Why are you pretending that?
So again, she's such a bad bullshit artist.
That's why a high school kid got her taken off the air for a fucking week.
Remember the last time she made news?
It was because she was mocking a teenager's college transcripts.
That's what she was doing.
Your image into a political weapon, attempting to emotionally manipulate the public perception of immigration enforcement.
Emotionally manipulate.
So if you have a normal emotion like a human being, you're being manipulated.
You should be a cold, heartless Samantha B word like she is.
That's what you should do.
Doctor, I've read that you have said that the separation, in your words, you said, is nothing less than government-sanctioned child abuse.
Do you really think that this amounts to child abuse?
This does amount to child abuse.
And all I can say after talking to the people, watching the people, listening to the people, that the Statue of Liberty, I think, is weeping right now.
They've effectively orphaned thousands of children from their parents.
I'm heartbroken by what's happening, and I wonder what this means about the fabric of our country.
Now, why are all their hearts breaking in unison now?
Why no tears for the victims of illegal immigrant crime?
Like the 14-year-old girl raped by Anastasio Eugenio Lopez Fabian just last month.
What does that have to do with this?
What does that have to do with taking children away from their mothers?
Nothing.
And so she just wants to go, hey, did you know there was a Mexican who raped someone?
So now we should fuck over kids.
What?
That's like the right-wing logic, though.
You know, a bunch of people from Saudi Arabia attacked us.
Well, we got to go into Iraq.
Fuck them.
What?
They didn't have anything to do with it.
Did you know that those people attacked us?
No, not those.
Well, who cares?
That's the same logic.
What does a kid have being ripped away, have anything?
Nothing.
It has nothing to do with it.
What it does do is reveal Laura Ingram to be a fucking horrible person and a bad bullshitter.
And if anybody who watches this show can watch that and not have your stomach turned, you have a disconnect in your brain.
It's a typical Breitbart tactic, the knockout game, making people just terrified of Mexicans and black people.
I mean, they have an entire segment on their site that just zeroes in on every single thing happening in the country that illegal immigrants have done, black people have done.
And then they just, they hold it up as a symbol of why we should support one of the most criminal policies.
I mean, this is psychological like warfare.
This is traumatized.
Torture and traumatizing.
Sadistic.
This is sadistic.
And this is being carried out again by a gestapo force that's been emboldened.
They say their jobs are fun.
They laugh at wailing children.
And you have the audacity to defend this and paint some random case to justify this.
Laura Ingram is a sick Samantha B word.
She is sick.
And anybody who defends this is sick.
There's something wrong with you.
Turns out there's a lot of people who are sick with something wrong with them in this country.
Yeah.
Or did their heart break when another 14-year-old was left to die at the scene of a hit and run by Miguel Ibarra Cerda, a 21-year-old Mexican national?
What does this have to do?
My friends, here's what you're not hearing.
The government has very good reasons for separating.
Hey, you know, there was a guy, there was an Italian guy who ran a mafia, so now we should separate Italian kids from their parents when they come here.
Because there was John Gotti.
I don't know if you know that.
There was Al Capone.
So we should separate.
What the fuck?
You know, the CIA is full of war criminals, right?
You know, the head of our intelligence agency is the worst thing in the world, a torturer.
Should we separate her kids from her?
What the Laura Ingram, what are the biggest pieces of shit in the world?
Children from their family unit.
The first being they may not be the child's family at all.
Children have been kidnapped, trafficked, and used by individuals who can then more easily slip into the country.
Yeah, these animals.
You know how easy it is to slip into the country when you're bringing a kid with you.
Yeah, let's go.
I want to slip into it.
I want to slip in to the United States with a kid.
The Obama administration's catch and release policy allowed people with children to enter the United States with only a promise to show up for a later hearing.
A lot of them didn't show up, of course.
The human traffickers and the drug cartels quickly seized on the weakness and exploited it, routinely trafficking people across the border, using children at times as camouflage.
Then when Obama announced his So that's what all these kids they're they're just coming in with drug dealers crisis actors.
These are, yeah, they're all crisis actors coming in.
They're coming in with drug dealers.
What the what is wrong?
There's something wrong.
Well, what's wrong with her is that she has a disconnect in her brain, which doesn't allow her to be fully human.
She's not a fully human human being.
She's some kind of a monster.
DACA policy in 2012, it became yet another lure for illegal immigrants.
The number of unaccompanied minors from El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras surged between 2012 and 2014.
Check this out.
And she's laughing about it.
You know why it surged?
She's not going to tell you the real reason.
The real reason is because we exported our drug war to those countries, which then made those countries way more violent and people were being killed in record numbers.
And that's why people were leaving, fleeing violence.
She's going to tell you they were fleeing because they're a bunch of moochers who wanted to come to the United States and suck off our welfare teeth.
Except, you know, every time immigrants come here, they're the hardest working people in the country.
More than 400%.
The number of unaccompanied children referred to the Office of Refugee Resettlement tripled between 2012 and 2017.
Because they're coming here for asylum.
And when those kids are given a lawyer, 98% of them get asylum because they're legally entitled to it.
Because that's the kind of country we are, not a bunch of fucking Nazis.
From 13,625 to 40,810, according to the government statistics.
From these immigrants come fresh recruits for MS-13 and other gangs that terrorize American cities from Maryland to California.
They come and terrorize.
The Mexicans are terrorizing our cities.
They're not working in our hotels and restaurants and picking our fruit and watching our kids and cleaning our house.
They're not doing that, fixing our cars and washing them.
And they're not doing that.
No, no, no, no.
What those Mexicans do is they come here and they join gangs and then they terrorize our cities and our country.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
You think like that?
She doesn't think like that.
She makes that shit up.
She doesn't think she knows better.
She knows that immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate than citizens of the United States.
She knows that.
She's aware.
Just like the Nazis were aware what they were doing.
She's aware and she does it anyway.
We've talked to the officials who told us the stories.
And in June of 2014, even the Washington Post had to admit that the unaccompanied minor surge was, quote, driven in large part by the perception that they will be allowed to stay under the Obama administration's immigration policies.
Astoundingly, in the fiscal year 2014, the Border Patrol apprehended 68,445, quote, family units.
So she just said a minute ago that the Barack Obama administration didn't enforce it.
Right.
But they apprehended 68,000 family units.
That's not people.
She's trying to have it both ways because she doesn't have a real argument.
So she has to twist and manipulate every fact she's giving you.
Few, of course, were deported.
Now you throw in Sanctuary Cities, a lax amnesty program, and it's a wonder more illegals haven't come.
So the Trump administration is now trying to pick up the pieces of this lawless immigration system after decades of governmental neglect.
Okay.
So that's enough of her garbage.
My God.
They're trying to be responsible.
People are leaving the party over this.
Even Republicans in the Senate are trying to come up with a bill to stop this horrible part.
But Laura Ingram, Miss Christian, totally on board with it.
Her reptile brain is activated.
Yes, it is.
It's just incredible.
I mean, we know that this has been going on for a long time.
Obama was doing the same thing, but Trump has this systematic policy now where people are being removed from their families at the border.
And the fact that she's saying this is good, this is picking up the pieces.
I mean, again, just going back to that Nazi mentality, this is just really disturbing.
That's what it is.
And this is not to give the Obama administration or the Clintons, anybody a pass.
The Democrats are complicit in informing ICE.
They're complicit in the ramping up this.
Barack Obama built the infrastructure for Trump to do this.
He was chastised for doing this, even by the New York Times, saying that you should dismantle this bullshit infrastructure you have to separate kids and house families as criminals who are immigrating here.
You should do it before Trump becomes president.
And of course he didn't.
Barack Obama expanded everything.
He expanded the surveillance state.
He handed it all over to Trump.
He didn't reinstitute habeas corpus.
Barack Obama repealed habeas corpus, didn't reinstitute it.
So now all Trump has to do is say anybody is a terrorist and they don't get to have a trial.
So if you go protest him, he can throw you in jail.
And now you don't get a trial because of Barack Obama.
So this isn't a partisan thing where we're taking, we're beating up on the Trump administration or Laura Ingram or Fox News.
We've beat up on everybody who has it coming, especially MSNBC.
If there's anybody harder on MSNBC in this country, I'd like to see it than this show.
So don't I don't want to see any of that bullshit.
Oh, you're just a liberal mania.
I'm not a liberal, by the way.
I'm a fucking progressive, which is totally different than a liberal.
And if you're okay with this, then you're a fucking garbage person.
And, you know, aside from the fact that immigrants commit less crimes, this whole mentality, this fear-based mentality, I mean, people are self-deporting because they're just terrified.
I have a lot of friends here whose mothers have just left because they just can't live in a country where people are just vocalizing this racist, bigoted hatred toward them or where ICE is parading around the street like Gestapo forces.
And, you know, what is that doing?
What is that doing to people?
Like, what is this mentality doing?
It makes people actually report crimes less.
It's actually hurting our economy and our society gravely.
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Hey, look, it's loyal Trump supporter Lion Mitt Romney on the phone.
Oh, oh, hi, Jimmy.
I don't get sarcasm, and you know that.
Or it's irony.
No way.
It's hypocrisy, right?
Maybe it's all those things, Mitt.
Ah, shucks.
Who fucking cares anymore, right?
When the seas rise, all us rich people will be on higher ground, surrounded by the loving protection of razor wire, as stated in the Bible.
And all you 48%ers can suck my swollen spam cans, you damn apes.
Wow.
So you don't agree with Jeff Sessions' interpretation of the Bible here, huh?
That kids should be taken away from their parents.
Oh, absolutely not, Jimmy.
He couldn't be more wrong.
Those kids need to be taken to Planet Kolob.
Completely different scenario entirely.
Why the planet Kolob?
It's for their safety, Jimmy.
But we can't be separating kids from their parents and sending them into space.
I'll tell you what we can't have.
It's these parents sending their kids here on a dangerous journey and putting their lives at risk.
That's what Barack Obama said back in 2015 after he opened family detention centers in Texas.
But these people are seeking asylum because their lives are in danger.
Oh, I know that, Jimmy.
But they'll be much safer on planet Kolob instead of one of those for-profit baby jails.
How's that?
Well, for one thing, we won't have to put them in cages.
They're on planet Kolob.
How the heck, oh, gosh, are they going to escape?
No way, Jose.
And they're officially still in America, so no one can say we sent them back into all that mock our foreign policy caused.
And they'll be put to good work, too.
Did you know on Colobian Day corresponds to 1,000 Earth years?
Boy, these kids are sure going to wash a lot of cars.
But you can't do that.
Can't, shan't, whamped.
Of course we can't, Jimmy.
We're a nation of doers, not not doers.
We get things done on nothing more than a pocket full of gumption and that huge estate our daddy left us.
We're going to save these kids and reprogram them for God's sake.
God think?
Yeah, it's a lot like Satan's thing, but with more annoying head trips.
But the parking's better, so there's that.
Just you wait and see, Jimmy Jam.
Romney Gration is going to be the whole get out.
It's going to be the new happening thing.
Now just watch future President Biden try and steal it.
Romney Gration?
Yes, we need a more compassionate answer, and that answer is Romney Gration.
I promise every asylum seeker this.
With Romney Gration, not only will you have access to an affordable shelter, but you'll get to keep your original parents.
That I pledge.
Results may vary.
Of course, you know, the focus of this show is to tell you how we got here, right?
So a lot of people just want to go, oh, Trump is a problem.
Trump is a symptom of a problem.
A lot of the people who are opposing him are part of that problem.
For instance, this immigration problem that we're having right now, separating families, the apparatus for this was set up during the Obama administration.
ICE was invented, invented after 9-11, and it was put under the auspices of the Department of Homeland Security.
So what does that do?
That now they treat immigration like a terrorism problem, which it's not.
We showed you on Tamala Harris, she said we need to have ICE because immigrants commit murders and rape.
Somebody has to prosecute.
There's already cops.
We already have police, FBI, we have all sheriffs and everything that can investigate a murder or a rape.
And they catch the person, they prosecute him, and then they deport him.
You don't need this ICE.
It's just invented.
So most of these kids, by the way, are seeking asylum.
So they're not just breaking a law.
Oh, they're illegally entering the country.
No, they're coming into the country seeking asylum.
And guess what?
When you give those kids a lawyer, 90% of them get asylum in the United States, which means that they have a right to be here.
And Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton and the Democrats and ICE and the Republicans and George Bush didn't honor that.
This isn't new.
What we predicted on this show when Donald Tonahanz Trump became president was that he would put an ugly face on the horrible stuff this country's been doing all along for the past 20 years or longer.
And then people could then coalesce and fight it.
And that's exactly what's happening with this.
The problem is the Democrats go along with Trump on all his other crazy shit.
The Democrats went along when he deregulated Wall Street.
They went along when he ramped up the Pentagon budget, $80 billion.
They didn't stand up for DACA.
They caved, let him do whatever he wanted.
They even offered to build a wall can come together on and oppose Trump on.
So this is happening.
But this isn't new.
This had been happening all along.
And I'll prove it to you even more.
This is from July 18th, 2016, from the New York Times in July, right before Barack Obama handed off power to Donny Tynehance Trump, who everyone says was a crazy maniac who was going to bring destruction and fascism to America.
But then Barack Obama's going to hand over.
Well, here's what happens.
This is, again, remember, 2016, the family detention centers the Obama administration has been operating in Texas and Pennsylvania have been an expedient way to handle the soaring numbers of Central Americans, many of them young children, who have arrived at the southern border since 2014.
They give a sense that Homeland Security has the border situation under control, and they supposedly send a message to other would-be refugees not to come.
So that's exactly what Trump has been saying.
We're sending a message.
That's exactly what the Obama administration was saying.
But these privately run, unlicensed lockups are no place for children or mothers.
This is the New York Times saying this.
Their existence belies President Obama's oft-professed concern for the humane treatment of people fleeing crime and violence in Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador, which is what they're doing.
They're fleeing crime and drug violence, which has been exacerbated by the United States drug war policy.
If the Obama administration took its principles to heart, it would be closing its family prisons and abandoning its emphasis on border crackdowns.
This is the New York Times telling Obama to stop doing this crap in 2016.
In favor of what?
What should he be doing instead of putting people in prison and having a border crackdown?
Well, instead, he should be making greater efforts to connect Central Americans with pro-bono lawyers and to provide family and community-based alternatives to detention.
Barack Obama Did not do that.
It would be far better to score a humanitarian victory by reuniting children and families, especially since data show that Central Americans with asylum claims are far more likely to show up in court and win their cases when they have lawyers.
So this is what the New York Times is saying.
Hey, they have a right to be here.
They are asylum seekers fleeing horrible situations.
And we are supposed to take care of them.
And if they get to court and people hear the evidence, a judge hears the evidence, they are granted asylum.
These are criminals.
And they're telling Obama, stop it.
Obama didn't.
Donald Trump and his Republican Party minions have taken the immigration debate to sickening lows with disgraceful animus towards Mexicans and Muslims.
Mr. Obama has forcefully denounced such nativism, but he can add strength to his words by ensuring greater protection for those who arrive defenseless at our southern border, which he didn't.
He never added strength to his words by ensuring greater protection for those who arrive defenseless at the southern border.
Barack Obama built the infrastructure.
Barack Obama built those detention centers on the border where there's cages.
Barack Obama did that.
And he didn't follow that.
So that's why.
And then what did he do?
He handed it off to Trump, who has now ratcheted it up to another level.
The ACLU report that's been going around, you know, showing the kids in cages, again, that was during the Obama administration, but that was the CPD.
I mean, customs and border patrol is equally as fascistic.
I mean, these are people who are raping these young kids, sexually assault.
One of them ran a young girl over with their car.
I think the bottom line is: yes, Obama did build this.
And this goes back to the Clinton administration, which we should talk about, and the death by deterrence policy at the border, how they funnel people into the most death-defying routes, how children are dying every year.
Where's the outrage about that?
Children literally dying in the middle of the desert seeking refuge because of our policies predominantly.
But I think ICE is ratcheting it up to a new level because of this anti-immigrant rhetoric and kind of hostility that's been cultivated and emboldened in the Trump era.
And that's what scares me the most.
You know, you have ICE staking out hospitals and all of these things to basically do these mass arrests.
And they said their jobs are fun now.
I mean, we're talking about a Gestapo.
This is like a Gestapo force that are neo-Nazis, but it doesn't stop with ICE.
Again, it's the Customs and Border Patrol that go and destroy the water in the desert being left for these migrants just seeking life and dignity.
I mean, it's really, really a disgrace.
But I just can't stand the hypocrisy.
Everyone from Barack fucking Obama himself putting a Facebook note out there saying this is not the America that I know.
Really?
Hillary Clinton sending out a donation letter to the Democratic Party saying, this isn't America, guys.
Hi, Secretary Clinton.
I was wondering what you think about securing the Mexican border with some of the illegal immigrants that come in.
Just wondering.
Well, look, I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in.
And I do think you have to control your borders.
Now, if you believe in building a wall, what's the difference between your idea and Donald Trump's idea on building a wall with Mexico?
Well, I think that everybody that I know of in the Democratic Party, and it used to be Republicans too, as you know, Jorge.
I got this from Hillary Clinton.
We're on a first name basis.
She says, Jimmy, what's happening to families at the border right now is horrific.
Nursing infants ripped away from their mothers.
Parents told their toddlers are being taken to bathe or play, only to realize hours later that they aren't coming back.
Children incarcerated in warehouses and, according to more than one account, kept in cages.
This is a moral and humanitarian crisis.
Every one of us who has ever held a child in their arms and every human being with a sense of compassion and decency should be outraged.
Even as I warn this could happen on the campaign trail, that Trump's immigration policies would result, Trump's immigration policies would result in families being separated, parents being sent away from their children, people rounded up on trains and buses.
I hoped it would never come to be.
But now as we watch with broken hearts, that's exactly what's happening.
That's Hillary Clinton.
Well, let me just tell you about Hillary Clinton.
This is from Newsweek 2014.
I'm sorry, this is from Newsweek 2017.
And it says, Hillary Clinton said children of illegal immigrants should be sent back in 2014 CNN interview.
Here's from the Huffington Post.
Hillary Clinton defends call to deport child migrants, but legal groups say virtually all unaccompanied minors from Central America qualify for humanitarian relief.
So she was Trump before we got Trump.
And here's the proof.
It may be safer for them to stay, but that's not the answer, Clinton said, adding that they should be sent back.
Children who have a right to be here seeking asylum.
And if given a lawyer, they would get the asylum.
Hillary Clinton says, send them back.
That's before Trump.
Now you know how he got Trump?
Now you know why Hispanics didn't think that the Democrats were looking out for them because they weren't.
Thanks, Susan Sarandon.
Thanks, Susan Sarandon.
At the height of the border crisis last year, in which some 68,000 unaccompanied minors crossed illegally in the United States, along with a similar number of female-headed family units, upending the national immigration debate in the process, Clinton said in an interview with CNN that children should be deported.
Do you want to see that interview?
Because here I have it.
Here we go.
Here she is talking with Christian Amun, who's now doing a special series on CNN about sex.
Okay.
Horrible.
Odd choice.
Let them stay in the United States or send them back.
Well, two quick points.
One, the numbers are increasing dramatically.
And the so, you know, got to send them back then.
There's way, way more people in crisis, children who need asylum.
So I just thought I'd fearmonger a little bit at the top because that's what that is.
It's really increasing.
Oh, I guess then we should shut up.
Horrible.
Odd choice.
Let them stay in the United States or send them back.
Well, two quick points.
One, the numbers are increasing dramatically.
And the main reason I believe why that's happening is that the violence in certain of those Central American countries is increasing dramatically.
And there is not.
But she doesn't say why.
It's because it's a response to the drug war that the United States is exporting.
Would you agree with that?
Yes, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Okay.
Efficient law enforcement or will on the part of the governments of those countries to try to deal with this exponential increase in violence, drug trafficking, the drug cartels.
And many children are fleeing from that violence.
Should they be able to stay here?
Well, It may be safer, but that's not the answer.
Wow.
It may be safer for those children, but let's put them back.
Let's send them back to where it's less safe for them, where they'll probably be killed.
Let's go ahead and do that.
That's what she's advocating.
This sounds like Trump.
It gets worse.
Do not.
Should they be sent back?
Well, first of all, we have to provide the best emergency care we can provide.
We have children.
We have to fix them up, get them in good medical condition, then send them back to be killed.
This is what she's advocating.
And Christiana Manpoor is on it.
That's why she keeps saying, but send them back, right?
You can see what's happening here.
Five and six years old who have come up from Central America.
We need to do more to provide border security in Mexico.
They should be sent back now.
Well, they should be sent back as soon as it can be determined who responsible adults and their families are because there are concerns about whether all of them can be sent back.
But I think we've got to do more.
I started this when I was secretary to deal with the violence in this region, to deal with border security.
But we have to send a clear message.
Just because your child gets across the border, that doesn't mean the child gets to stay.
So we don't want to send...
We need to send a message.
Don't bring your kids here.
We need to treat them so horribly that the people are afraid to come here.
That's what she's saying.
Message that is contrary to our laws or will encourage more children to make that dangerous journey.
There you go.
That's Hillary Clinton.
This is from the HuffPo.
That was before Clinton had officially announced her candidacy for the Democratic presidential nomination.
Since then, she has taken a more liberal stance on immigration, saying that she would expand upon the Obama administration's executive actions on immigration if elected, and that she supports comprehensive immigration reform with a pathway to citizenship for qualified, undocumented immigrants.
Her campaign, however, has repeatedly declined to answer emails from the HuffPo about whether she thinks family detention centers should be closed.
She was cool with family detention centers staying open.
That's who Hillary Clinton is.
Send those kids back.
Did you hear all the bullshit, flowery language he put around sending them back?
Well, we have to get them good medical care and have it.
And we have to send a message, get these fucking kids out of here.
This is exactly what we warned about during the Obama administration.
We said, you know, if you let the NDAA go, someone's going to get in like a Trump that's going to definitely detain us.
If you keep these child prisons open, we're going to have someone like a Trump, this authoritarian nightmare who's going to exacerbate these policies.
And that's exactly what we're seeing, where Obama did have this policy.
But because Trump ran on this anti-immigrant rhetoric, of course, ICE is going to take it upon themselves to just basically rip the child from their mother's arms right when they enter the border.
Whereas Obama waited until they put these people on Operation Streamline, which is another kind of gulag style, where they prosecute 80 people at a time in these mass hearings.
And I went into one and I brought a hidden camera.
It's extremely disturbing.
They literally line up these immigrants and just immediately just charge them and then just ship them off to private prisons where they're getting hundreds of dollars a day to fill these beds.
And where are their children going once they're prosecuted and charged and put in jails?
I mean, it's the same thing that was going on.
It's just that now ICE has been emboldened to the point where they're now, again, going and literally ripping people out, putting them in the, where they're saying their cries sound like an orchestra or the children's wails sound like a chorus.
So again, these policies are not new.
My question is, why are you just outraged when you, why not before?
I mean, why are we going back to this quote-unquote humane deportation?
Because Barack Obama puts the left to sleep.
Because Barack Obama speaks very politely and he has good manners.
And so nobody really gave a crap what he was doing.
That's the fact.
I just was looking up today because I couldn't believe it myself, but at this same point in Obama's presidency, deportations were still higher, even though arrests are actually higher in Trump's administration.
I think that because it's, again, it goes back to the partisanship where sanctuary cities are now complying less where under Obama, everyone just complied and deported everyone.
Yes.
And I have to go back again to Clinton's policy in 1994, the death by deterrent.
This was a custom board and patrol policy that was put in place to, again, we have a wall.
It almost spans the entirety of the U.S. Going back to DACA and the Bush administration.
I mean, we're talking about millions of people that were in the street because Bush actually tried to make it a felony offense to cross illegally.
And there was massive resistance from millions of immigrants.
They called it the sleeping giant back in 2005 when this policy was in place.
When ICE, was ICE created in 2005, too?
It was after 9-11.
I don't know what year it was.
I think it was 2005 as well.
So you had a massive pushback from people.
And so they were able to halt that, which shows you that only masses amount of people on the street and a mass movement will be able to halt these policies, whether it be Republican or Democrat.
Look to Obama's administration when he was trying to, when he was deporting people en masse.
I mean, again, the left went to sleep, but people were still being deported.
You had dreamers here.
You had people here who were saying, hey, we need to stop this.
So that was why you had not one more movement started where they were chaining themselves, putting their bodies on the line of deportation buses, jails.
They were confronting ICE officials.
And so what did Obama do?
He passed DACA.
It was an executive order that gave them, you know, to give the DREAMers something.
So that's the only way these things happen, to push whether it be Republican or Democrat.
And we saw today this massive pressure.
We cannot forget about what policies have been in place for the last two decades, Jimmy.
But again, I don't want to let Trump off the hook too much because the anti-immigrant rhetoric that he has campaigned on, we're seeing that just being carried out to levels that I think we have not seen.
And it's really similar, I guess, to Nazis.
I mean, being stalking restaurants, going in hospitals.
I mean, it's just really disturbing.
The police have off, just the regular police have become way out of control.
You saw the cop in, was it Utah went into a hospital or harassed, physically assaulted a nurse because she wouldn't break the law.
Cop went into a hospital.
Cops going into hospital, arresting nurses who are taking care of people.
That's the world we're living in.
That's the kind of crap I thought happened in Nazi Germany.
And so now it's happening.
So we live in a police state and people are just used to it.
Let me just give you a little bit more.
Here's Hillary Clinton when she was running for president.
Here's how she tried to change her tune.
Quickly, with respect to children on the border, if you remember, we had an emergency, and it was very important to send a message to families in Central America.
Do not let your children take this very dangerous journey because a lot of children did not make it.
She's doing it again.
We got to send a message.
Isn't that what Trump is saying?
Yes, it is exactly what Trump is saying.
And I remember an immigration lawyer confronted Obama and told him the horrors in these detention centers.
And Obama said the same thing to him.
He said, we have to send a message to the parents.
And the person said, what?
He was like, I was floored.
I thought Obama was going to say, yeah, I'll work on that policy.
He actually said, they should not come over here.
We're trying to send a message to them.
Again, The death by deterrence, the separation by deterrence, guess what we see?
All separation, all death, no deterrence, because they're fleeing death.
Yes.
Okay, so there's more to what she has to say.
They were robbed.
They were raped.
They were kidnapped.
They were held for ransom by smugglers.
So I think it was the responsible message that I and many others, including the White House, was trying to say to families, do not let your children, your young children, do this.
There you go.
So virtually all unaccompanied minors who crossed in the United States from the violence and poverty plagued Central American countries of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras last year can make a credible claim for humanitarian relief under U.S. law.
Hillary Clinton says, send them back.
That's according to Jonathan Ryan, the executive director of RACES, a Texas nonprofit that coordinates pro bono representation for immigrants.
So that's kind of amazing.
We can't let them basically say we need to go back to humane mass deportation.
Yeah.
Because that's what this is.
That's what this Clinton policy is.
I mean, yeah, what Trump did was horribly exacerbated at ICE, you know, conducted this lawlessness where they've, you know, 3,700 children are now unaccompanied in God knows where being trafficked with people that they don't know, their parents deported.
That's insane.
However, going back to the policy of deporting family, I mean, detaining families together like this is horrible, and we should stand opposed to it.
So we can't let the Democrats basically hijack this argument and say, yeah, just humane deportations.
We need no deportations and full rights.
I mean, Reagan granted amnesty for undocumented immigrants.
This is not a crazy thing.
But we've just shifted the conversation so far to the right that this is somehow humane.
What Clinton's policy is.
We have Rachel Maddow crying crocodile tears.
Crocodile tears.
Looking at a goddamn report that was happening under Obama.
Under Obama.
And she didn't.
And again, that nobody gave a crap.
And that's why I try to remind people, this is why we got Trump.
We've got Trump because everybody goes to sleep under the horrible neoliberalism that the Democrats bring.
And that's why someone like Steve Schmidt feels comfortable in the Democratic Party.
David Frum feels comfortable in the Democratic Party.
But Josh Barrow feels comfortable in the Democratic Party because there are a bunch of friggin neoliberals who agree on almost of the horrible stuff.
War, Wall Street, insurance, military-industrial complex.
They agree on all that crap.
Here's Diane Feinstein.
This is from, I think, 25 years ago.
Here's what she had to say about Mexican immigration.
Two borders.
You have to remember a couple of things.
In Mexico, there is no welfare.
There is no AFDC.
There is no SSI.
There is no Medicaid.
There is no Social Security.
There is no Medicare.
And there's a 58-cent an hour minimum wage.
Mexico does nothing to enforce its border.
It is my view that if we are going to have a North American free trade agreement, that Mexico must do its share because the day when America could be the welfare system for Mexico is gone.
We simply can't afford it.
And I think you've seen the figures to state and local governments of what the cost is.
It's over $2 billion in California alone.
She sounds like Trump.
We can't be the welfare.
Immigrants come to this country and make our country better.
Immigrants come to this country and work hard at low-paying jobs and pay into Social Security, which they're never allowed to collect.
So here she is.
This is our senator from the bluest of blue states.
This is our senator.
Those figures, if you want them in specific, in my purse.
And that's why the issue is now joined with 2 million illegal immigrants.
It's a competition for space.
Whether the space is a job, the space is a home, a place in a classroom.
The immigrants are coming to take your stuff away.
We have limited resources, and for every immigrant that gets something here, your kid won't get it.
That's what she's saying, right?
This is kind of mind-blowing, huh?
Comes a competition for space.
This is a country that's based on immigration, and we all know that.
And yet, at times, you become so overtaxed, you have to concentrate on saying the people who should be here are those who come legally at this time.
And we've got to, for the time being, enforce our borders.
People are outraged at Trump.
She's saying that the United States can't be the welfare state from Mexico anymore.
What do they think the logical conclusion of these policies are?
When you scapegoat immigrants, when you put in policies like NAFTA, the drug war, and when you militarize the border to the teeth, and create completely new agencies injected with millions of dollars of cash and hire Gestapo boot-looking neo-Nazis to run them, what do you think is going to happen?
So here we are today.
And again, we have to basically not let the Democrats hijack this and put our bodies on the line and put our bodies in the streets to push the policy because these people are such charlatans, it makes me sick.
That's the senator from the bluest of blue states, Diane Feinstein.
And you wonder why Trump's rhetoric caught on?
You wonder why?
Because the Democrats have been laying the foundation for that.
They set the state.
Barack Obama built the infrastructure that Trump is now using to cage people.
He built that.
He did it.
In fact, still, if you look at the statistics, Barack Obama's first year in office, way worse for immigrants than Donald Trump's first year in office.
Did you know that?
Supported way more people than Donald Trump.
Isn't that something?
Because Barack Obama was trying to show how tough he could be on immigrants because he was going to then give them immigrant relief later.
And he had to first show how tough he was.
Well, it never came.
All he could do was DACA, which he couldn't make permanent.
That's it.
It never happened.
There's your Democratic Party.
Bill Clinton in the 90s.
How did Bill Clinton handle it in the 90s?
So NAFTA created an explosion of undocumented immigrants coming here.
Obviously, we decimated Mexico's economy with that bill.
And so that was him.
Especially the rural farmers.
Exactly, the agricultural workers.
So that's basically the foundation of how this mass influx of immigration started in the 90s.
And so in 1994 or 95, that's when he started the policy of death by deterrent.
Again, the same logic.
They'll be deterred when they see all the dead bodies piling up in the desert and they're not going to come here anymore.
Well, what have we seen?
Just hundreds of people dying, invisible victims out in the middle of the desert that no one talks about.
So this is a systematic policy that wasn't in place before.
But again, these policies lead to this.
The apparatus is set up for this.
The detention centers were built.
That portrait of Trump, as dystopian and or welling as it is, I saw a portrait of Obama in another detention center on the wall.
Wow.
Yeah, of course they're going to put his picture up.
You wonder how we got here?
This is how we got here.
That's how we Got here.
Barack Obama creating the infrastructure for this is how we got here.
Hillary Clinton demonizing immigrants is how we got here.
Immigrants come here.
They're seeking asylum.
They're supposed to get a hearing.
They're less likely to commit crimes, actually.
Less likely.
I mean, you can go on and on about how immigrants are actually good for the economy.
They actually do no damage whatsoever.
It's just a complete hyperbolic fear.
Yes.
That's beaten into people to punch down.
The Honorable Jeff Sessions is on the line.
I wonder if he wants to take away my dog because my wife is of Latin origin.
Mr. Door, you're being so silly with all this.
Your wife is perfectly safe.
Oh, good.
Where is she, by the way?
I think she went out for a few minutes.
Will she be home soon?
You have no moral qualms about putting kids in concentration camps.
I would cite you the Apostle Paul, who told us to do this through God.
Where did Paul, if such a person ever existed, ever say that?
In Romans 13, 26, 24, hike.
Paul said to obey the laws of the government because God, with a capital G, has ordained them for the purpose of order.
Doesn't Romans 13 also say that you should pay your taxes?
I'm talking Romans 13.6 beta.
The old version had too many kernel panics.
When you rebel against authority, you rebel against a mythical white man resembling grizzly Adams in a soiled hospital gown.
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