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Get ready for an outstanding entertainment program, the Jimmy Dore Show.
In an October 5th, Sunday New York Times article, it was revealed that the recent federal shutdown had been planned for months by an actual cabal of ultra-conservative power brokers, including Edwin Meese III, Michael Needham, and the Koch brothers.
One can assume these meetings took place in a secret underground cave, lit by candles and sanctified with the blood of Ronald Reagan.
Disturbingly, though, even on MSNBC, the narrative has remained that the recent crisis was caused by the irresponsible Tea Party rabble in Congress as led by Ted Cruz.
Question that narrative, if only because Ted Cruz clearly hasn't had an original idea in his life.
The reality would make George Orwell blush.
A small group of super wealthy and powerful people who have never been elected to anything are now overtly calling the shots.
They've raised a generation of policymakers like fighting dogs from hell and then unleashed them upon the policymaking of this country and then are surprised when the dogs begin shitting on the economy and ruining the furniture.
So to all the paranoid conspiracy theorists out there, how about you quit worrying about the Masons putting symbols on your money and start worrying about what's actually happening?
And to the rest of America, how about you just wake the fuck up?
Even MSNBC, supposedly a liberal news outlet, will go with the simplest narrative they can muster, not because they've got an agenda, but because they're too lazy to do reporting on a story that's already been broken.
Now, if you'd excuse me, I'm going to find some place where no one will see me crying.
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Hi, everybody.
Welcome to this week's episode.
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It will be at the Castro Theater in San Francisco.
Two shows.
Okay, so cinematictitanic.com.
It's TV's Frank Frank Connip.
Hi, Frank.
Hello there.
All right.
Have fun in San Francisco this Saturday at the, what's it called?
The Castro Theater.
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Across the glass from me, hilarious comedian Robert Yasamura from Team Yasamura.
How are you, Robert?
Better and better.
Fantastic.
It's nice to know your meds are working.
Across from him is the lovely and talented our resident Latina, the host of comedy and everything else.
It's Steph Zemorado.
Hi, Steph.
How are you?
Hola, Jaime.
All right, let's do some jokes before we get to the joke.
Right now, Ted Cruz is Ted Cruz, huh?
Ted Cruz.
Right now, he's straightening out his tie and keeping up appearances.
Who's he like, Frank?
Well, he's just like a Gustavo Fring with half his face blown off.
Yes.
There you go, if you watch.
For all you breaking bad fans there.
Hey, Luke, Luke Ruster was being interviewed.
He went on the Christian CBN, the Christian Broadcasting Network.
And he said, this is true.
He said that there's a media bias against religion.
Did you hear that, Frank?
Well, yeah, well, you know, Luke relates to Jesus because he also owed his career to his dad.
Hey!
Very nice.
Zingo.
Hey, Frank Edinand.
I don't watch Homeland, Frank, but did you watch that show, Homeland?
Oh, you know what?
It's been spoiled for me now that I know that the foreigner trying to destroy America turns out to be Ted Cruz.
Yes.
All right.
So now let's talk about what's coming up on today's show.
We look in at some of the right-wingers who were in denial over the shutdown on MSNBC.
Truth is spoken to a senator on MSNBC and all hell breaks loose.
We'll come back to that.
Also, also the stenographer, the congressional stenographer, freaks out.
We're going to talk about that.
Plus, the Tea Party marched on the World War II Memorial in Washington, D.C. And boy, it was really something.
Sarah Palin, Ted Cruz, and a bunch of racists showed up.
We're going to talk about that.
And the shocker, right?
Isn't that a shocker?
Yeah, yeah.
We'll talk about that.
And we got phone calls from Rick Perry, Sarah Palin, John Boehner, and Rod Paul.
today on the Jimmy Dore Show.
Joining us on the phone right now, we have Speaker John Boehner.
Speaker Boehner, are you there, Speaker?
Jimmy.
Jimmy.
Speaker Boehner, are you all right, buddy?
Help me, Jimmy.
Help me.
I don't know.
How can I help you?
What can I do, John?
Well, John, what can I do?
Don't you see that this call is literally a cry for help?
If anyone knows how to cry, it's me.
All Republican caucus hates me.
The only colleague I can trust is my good friend, Congressman Bourbon.
You know, the whole government shutdown and debt limit fight has been tough for you.
I know, but now that you finally...
But now that you finally brokered a deal, aren't things any better at all, Speaker Boehner?
I mean, you've got a deal now.
Things have to be a little bit better for you.
Am I wrong?
Are you freaking kidding me?
To fix the debt ceiling, I had to fall through the dignity basement.
You know what I had to do to get a debt deal out of the Tea Party caucus?
No, I hate to ask, but what?
What did you do?
I had to let the teabaggers teabag me.
Literally.
They made me lie on the floor, and then one by one, they all dropped their sacks into my mouth.
Yikes.
Oh, my God.
It was done purely out of spite.
It was a gay thing.
At least that's what Eric Canter told me right after he lifted his sweaty scrotocracy off my hand.
Well, I said, if it's not a gay thing, why have you got a boner?
He said he was thinking about Margaret Chase Smith the whole time.
That didn't make it any less humiliating.
Wow.
You know, I really, really feel bad for you, Mr. Boehner.
Honest to God.
TBT BWA smaller.
But you and me moved to a Caribbean island to become bartenders.
What?
Bartenders?
Have you ever seen the movie Cocktail?
Yes, I've seen that.
It's awesome.
Tom Cruise and his older mentor friend moved to a tropical island to become popular bartenders.
They dance and twirl Bartiti mixers around, and everybody loves them.
You'll be Tom Cruise, and I'll be the older mentor friend.
Let's do it, Jimmy.
Please, please, please, please, please, please.
Speaker, Speaker Boehner, I've seen Cocktail, and if I'm not mistaken, Tom Cruise's older mentor friend eventually kills himself.
I know, it's such a happy movie.
The idea of hugging the sweet embrace of Lady Death in a beautiful setting fireway from Washington, D.C. would be a dream come true for me.
Speaker Boehner, you've just, you've got to pull yourself together, buddy.
Just hang in there.
It's going to be all right.
I'm promising you.
It's going to be all right.
It's all right, buddy.
Jimmy, you're my only friend.
I love you, man.
You're my best buddy in the whole world.
John, I hardly know you.
Don't you have any friends in D.C. at all?
Any other friends?
They're all assholes.
The only nice guy for this town is Obama.
I'm not allowed to like him because he's black.
Jimmy, what a racist thing to say.
I believe the proper word is colored.
No, I think that's the proper word is not colored.
Well, screw this.
Okay.
I haven't had a booze on him in about five minutes, and I'm starting to get a headache.
Okay, well, thanks for joining us today, John.
I hope you feel better, buddy.
Thanks for coming on the show.
Good luck.
Good luck to you.
Go fuck yourself.
Okay, John Boehner, ladies and gentlemen.
John Boehner.
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So here we go.
I've been watching people come on for weeks to two weeks now to talk about this government shutdown.
And it's funny to see when they ask Ted Cruz about the government shutdown, he immediately always responds with, I think it's wrong for the president and Harry Reid to shut the government down.
So he just does that jiu-jitsu where he does the opposite thing, you know.
So here's a Tennessee Congresswoman Marcia Blackburn.
Do you know who that's?
So, see, she's cuckoo for Coca-Puffs.
And she's the kind of conservative who's offended by the word moist.
You know what I mean?
Because she's never been moist in her life.
I'm going to guess.
I don't know.
I don't know if that's sexist.
I'm not allowed to make that joke, but I'm going to say it.
So this is Tuesday afternoon, two days before the debt ceiling was scheduled to hit.
MSNBC's Thomas Roberts, he had Representative Blackburn on his little show thingy.
And after listening to her BS for a little while about how the House Republicans are the heroes in this whole big struggle, he finally couldn't hold his tongue anymore and he let some truth rip.
And let's watch what happens when a newsman hits a liar in the face with the truth.
Here we go.
And I get it back.
When it comes to Obamacare, do you hate Obamacare more than you love your country?
Bang.
Bang.
Do you hate Obamacare more than you love your country?
Okay, that's a pretty harsh, you know, opening salvo.
I'll give you that, except when you consider that this guy and every other news person in the country has been listening to this for weeks.
And then it becomes amazing, kind of.
Not amazing that he asked that question, but amazing that he just didn't blurt out.
What the fuck is wrong with you, Stepford people?
So she, so here it goes, she immediately shoots back.
He said, do you hate Obamacare or when you love America?
And here's what she says.
I got to tell you something.
I think that comments like that that you are making are just incredibly inappropriate.
Yes, telling the truth is the last thing you cannot do.
That's the biggest sin that you can make in Washington, especially on television.
You can't be telling the truth right to a person.
You know, let's listen.
Let's just think about this, Frank.
This is the same lady who claimed there were death panels for the elderly and wouldn't come off that claim even when it was demonstrated it was false.
This is Marsha Blackburn.
Also, on the House floor, she accused Al Gore of lying about climate change for profit.
So maybe she's not the best judge of what is or isn't appropriate.
That's all I'm saying.
So here she keeps, so Roberts pushes back.
What we have to realize.
Do you think it's incredibly inappropriate to shut down our government and to take all the hostages of Americans that you've taken?
No, no, no, no, it's not inappropriate because you've taken the government hostage to a shutdown and all the American people, you're now walking them to a cliff, the economy, and you're going to push them over one by one based on the fact that you don't like the ACA.
That's all it is.
You don't like people.
Okay, now here comes Blackburn.
Blackburn, she had to take that.
She had this listen there.
Here she goes.
She's going to zing him.
Here comes her zinger.
Ready?
Affordable care.
Listen to yourself.
We didn't want a government shutdown.
Just listen to the way you're sounding.
My goodness.
Okay.
My goodness.
My golly.
Oh, my goodness.
She goes on a little bit more.
He doesn't want a government shutdown.
We don't want a government to fall.
We don't know how to do it.
So really.
So she did.
The Republicans don't want a government shutdown.
They don't want to default, which, you know, probably not a good idea for her to condescend to a newsman and lie like that when, you know, when there's Google, right?
Because it seems like Mr. Roberts, the new interviewer guy, just decided to Google what she just said and comes back at her with this one.
On August the 6th at the Economic Club of Nashville, you said everything we can do, whether it's defunding, delaying, repealing, replacing all of our energy, needs to be in every one of these efforts.
I applaud Ted Cruz for getting out there and bringing this to the forefront.
Did you not say that?
Of course she said that.
Of course she said that.
He's got it written down.
He went to the internet.
He got it.
She said it.
So did you say that?
Yes, she said that.
That's inappropriate.
Here we go.
Here we go.
My goodness.
Those are comments that I did make to the economic club Agla.
Yes.
Those are Frank.
Those are comments I did make.
Yes.
Yes.
How can I admit this without seeming As bad as it is.
Yes, I did say those things.
She's doing so poorly that even Paula Dean went, whoa.
So she's not prepared that somebody was going to ask her questions about the shutdown with factual information?
No, because she's been going on TV for probably a month and no one's ever held her feet to the fire about anything.
It's actually very rare to be confronted about the truth on any news channel.
Yes.
Those are comments that I did make to the economic club.
And let me tell you, so you have been planning a shutdown since, well, not exactly.
The New York Times believes that the plan began shortly after the last election, but yes, yes.
But here she goes.
She's going to spank him some more.
Not at all.
Not at all.
What you are doing is so inappropriate.
We didn't want to.
Yes, yes.
Just keep acting indignant.
You're like a husband caught cheating saying, I'm not even going to dignify that question with a response.
And he's got his pants down and there's a hole in the bed.
And I'm not even going to, come on, I'm your husband.
You're going to talk to me like that?
And that's what she sounds like.
That's exactly what she sounds like.
We didn't want to shut.
Did you want to shut down?
Want to shut down?
What we want to do is solve problems.
Yes, they want to solve problems.
So she keeps going on.
She goes on to vilify Obamacare like it's Satan's health plan or something instead of what it is, a Republican plan to give healthcare to everybody.
Exactly.
So which is, again, another, it's just this whole topsy-turvy world we live in right now.
It's a Republican plan.
It's a Republican healthcare plan, and their main objection to it is that a black man put it forward.
A non-Republican.
And the fact that he's black is just icing on the cake.
Produced, by the way, produced by the Heritage Foundation.
Who's behind the shutdown?
Is one of the groups behind the shutdown?
So here's how the talking, here's how the talking point works.
We didn't want to shut down.
We just wanted to stop Obamacare.
So we threatened to shut down and default that we had no idea would actually happen.
It's pretty impressive when you can come up with a talking point worse than where's his long-form birth certificate.
Because that one, that's pretty bad.
And here's something interesting.
Actually, oh, I'm sorry, but I was just going to say that it occurs to it just occurred to me that maybe Obama's strategy all along was to make them think he was going to cave on this because he caved on everything else.
Yeah, yes.
And so then it was going to be a final fake out when he cave on everything for five years and then not cave on this.
And so he tricked them.
It definitely, it tricked me.
I expected him to cave.
Didn't you expect him to?
I did expect him.
I didn't know what he was going to do, but it wouldn't have been surprised to me if he had done that.
I thought he was going to take the Paul Ryan plan.
I really did.
But here's something interesting about Congressman Blackburn.
She isn't even a member of the Tea Party caucus.
She's not conservative enough for the Tea Party.
This lady, this lady here, she's got a score of 100% five times from the American Conservative Union.
100%.
Seriously, you have to go back in time to find people more conservative than this lady, and the Tea Party won't have her.
So why is she?
Go ahead.
I think it's because she may have 100%, but the Tea Party doesn't understand math.
They don't think that's a good score.
They think it's like golf.
You got to get a minus score.
So why is she?
So she's not a Tea Party member.
The Tea Party won't even have her.
She's not conservative enough for them.
So why is she shouting the party line?
Because she, like so many Republicans, is terrified of being primaried in her next election by the Koch brothers and the Heritage Action for America.
Although, honestly, I'd like to see who could find, they could find that would be to the right of this lady.
Probably just her, but a man with a mustache.
There you go.
See what I'm saying?
A man with a mustache.
A man with a mustache.
And I'm going to bet you a million dollars.
I'm going to bet you a million dollars that she has never gotten that upset or that indignant when she was on television with another politician who lied to her face.
They reserve that kind of umbrage for when someone tells the truth in their face.
Right, right.
Yeah, the only thing that you can piss them off more than lying is telling the truth.
And that's exactly what happened.
The lady doth protest too.
The lady doth protest too much.
And so, you know, this whole debt ceiling thing and the way it was handled, it pretty much encapsulates this whole show.
Or this whole reason why I wanted to start doing these shows or why I became a political comedian is because I couldn't stand George Bush and the Republicans going on television saying which was obviously the opposite of what was happening and no one was challenging them.
And I just couldn't go on stage anymore and talk about dating.
I just couldn't do it.
I needed to talk about something that was actually affecting people.
And so, and my whole thing is, we're never, we have to use an agreed upon set of facts, but we're not doing that anymore.
It's that right-wing alternative reality bubble.
It's that whole thing, right?
And Chris, and so here's Chris Hayes.
So Chris Hayes gives a, he had on a guy from the Heritage Foundation.
No, no.
The Heartland Foundation.
It's a different, not Heritage Foundation.
Oh, much better.
But still, still very right-wing.
And here's what Chris Hayes says to him about his third league.
Because it's very frustrating.
You know, like, for instance, I go to a I went to on a Facebook post the other day that a comedian who I know who's conservative and he was complaining about why won't Barack Obama negotiate?
What kind of.
It's like, so this is what I'm talking about.
It's so frustrating.
It's like we can debate ideas.
We can't debate facts.
And that's just so, it's so tiresome.
And it's so, and that's why our country's in the place it is.
And the news media won't set them straight anymore.
So here's Chris.
Chris Hayes has this guy on from the Heartland Foundation, and he says this to this to him.
Everybody lies to you.
There's a whole cottage industry before the election to tell you you're winning an election.
They're losing.
They tell you your ideas are popular when they are not.
They tell you your party is winning when it is not.
They tell you the president is losing this and he looks terrible because people are starting a World War II world.
At what point do grassroots conservatives stop allowing their leadership to lie to them?
Wow, great question.
Great question.
I mean, he just said it to him.
They've lied to you.
There's a whole cottage industry of them lying to you that they lied to you, that you're going to win the election.
They lie to you that the polls are on your side.
They lie to you that people hate Obamacare.
They lie to you that people hate Obama.
They lie to you that they're winning this debate.
They lie to you that Obama's going to lose this debate.
They lie that they can defund Obama.
They lie about everything.
They lie that this plan is theirs.
That Obamacare is actually the Heritage Foundation.
They lie about that.
They lied about it.
And so this is what I'm talking about.
and by the way, the Tea Party officials lied about it being their plan to shut down the government.
Not only was it their plan, but it was the Heritage Foundation's plan again.
Yes.
You know, that they're handlers.
And in the, you know, in the election, Mitt Romney had to lie because he was running against his own plan.
Yes.
Yes.
He couldn't.
It's the most obvious thing in the world that Obamacare is RomneyCare.
You know?
Yes.
And Romney couldn't, he had to lie about that because he had to run.
He said he was going to defund it on day one of his presidency, which was also a lie.
Which was also a lie.
He could have done that on the first day of his presidency.
Yes.
So here's what this guy says.
So here's his response.
Maybe I shouldn't do this.
Maybe I'll cut it out in editing, but it's very cathartic for me to hear someone on television say this to someone else's face.
And that makes me think I got to start getting conservatives on this show because if I like watching someone dress down a conservative, I'm sure people will enjoy watching me dress down as a conservative.
And it would probably help our show and we get more listeners, which would help.
So then, you know, maybe I wouldn't have to work when I'm 90.
This is all.
I'm thinking about the future.
So here, not that I consider this work, although it is a shit ton.
Okay, here we go.
So let's listen to Chris Hayes again.
Everybody lies to you.
There's a whole cottage industry before the election to tell you you're winning an election.
They're losing.
They tell you your ideas are popular when they are not.
They tell you your party is winning when it is not.
They tell you the president is losing this and he looks terrible because people are starting a World War II world.
At what point do grassroots conservatives stop allowing their leadership to lie to them?
Okay.
And I was like, I was like, what lie is this guy going to tell now?
Right?
Because he can't just say, you're right.
Our leaders, our whole party is just bankrupt and corrupt.
We're just floundering.
We're all lying to each other.
He can't say that.
He can't say that.
Can he, Frank?
Well, let's see.
Well, I think he, you know, maybe he might say, actually, I found those lies very comforting.
Much like my religion.
Okay, here he goes.
Here he goes.
Well, I think that you have to keep in mind the leadership lies to themselves as well.
They lie to themselves about their ability to control the situation.
They lied to themselves about the ability to offer an alternative approach from the Senate side that could get taken up by the House at the get-go.
I think that essentially you're seeing a lot of people who are lying to each other about the nature of the policies and the nature of the political strategy that they're employing.
What the family is doing?
So he's just saying, yeah, we're all lying to them.
I did not see that coming.
That was a tasty fake.
That's what I said.
I go, well, he can't just say, yeah, we're all lying to ourselves.
That's exactly what he said.
So this guy is really.
This guy's a conservative.
And he's still a conservative.
After saying that.
And he's still going to vote for those people.
Our ideas are so bankrupt because they have no ideas.
They have no...
They voted to repeal Obamacare 40 times.
And what else have they passed?
Have they got a jobs bill?
Have they nothing?
They've done nothing to do anything.
They haven't fixed a single problem because that's not how they see government.
Government isn't an instrument to fix problems.
Private sector fixes problems and government just stays out of the way.
I love that his idea was: yes, they've been lying to me, but they've been lying to themselves as well.
Yeah.
Like, what?
That's the craziest thing I've ever heard.
Oh, my God.
You have to remember, hey, they're lying to themselves.
So apparently it's easier for him to stomach if the people he's fighting as leaders of his party and movement are also bullshit each other.
Yeah.
It's almost as if like Chris Hayes asked that whole question about when are you going to stop lying to each other?
And then his response was, isn't it just like a liberal to think we don't lie nearly as much as we do?
Well, it's just like, if we don't have our lies, what do we have?
You know, that's what he's really saying.
What do we have if we don't have our lives?
What are we supposed to say?
The truth?
Trickle-down economics doesn't work.
Tax cuts for millionaires doesn't actually create jobs.
What are they supposed to say?
The Iraq war was a failure.
It was an illegal war.
What are they supposed to say?
Bush bankrupted the treasury with the Bush tax cut.
What are they supposed to say?
What truth?
Ronald Reagan actually started this country on a slow downward roll by concrete the income disparity between rich and poor to now we're at the gilded age levels after 30 years of Reaganomics.
What are they supposed to say?
They've got nothing left.
They have no, and the only ideas that have any validity to them anymore, conservative ideas, are the ones that the Democrats parrot.
That somehow it's Social Security that is rising up the debt.
It's somehow Medicare is the problem when it's not the Medicare is the solution.
Medicare is not the problem.
The problem is our health care costs.
And the way to fix them is through Medicare.
That's not the way.
It's unbelievable.
And Obama is representing what apparently they hate more than anything, which is moderate Republicanism.
You are correct, Frank.
You are correct.
Okay, so let's go to who is this?
Oh, okay.
And just to give you an idea of how bad things have gotten, Orn Hatch, Frank.
Orin Hatch.
Now, Orrin Hatch is not one of these squishies.
He's a real deal Republican.
In fact, when he came into Congress in the mid-70s, people looked at him as being too right-wing.
Right.
Orin Hatch.
There was a time when he was considered a radical right winger.
Yeah, let's remember what Republicans were like in the 70s.
I mean, Nixon created the EPA and offered a real plan for universal health coverage.
So those were the Republicans in the early 70s, right?
So when Orrin Hatch came in, he was like crazy to those.
He's done with all that stuff, right?
So here's what he has to say.
He was on with Fred, what's his name, Todd?
Chuck Todd.
Chuck Todd, by the way, I would say get the plugs.
Just go ahead and get the plugs.
I would say just go ahead.
I mean, I get the, when he shifted the hairstyle and he went to the Caesar, I could see the end of game already.
I was like, yeah, that's going to work for about 10 or 12 months.
You know what, Jimmy?
They've been lying to Chuck Todd about the plug.
But it's not Chuck Todd's job as a journalist to point out when people are lying.
No, it's not his job to point out when people are lying.
Okay, that was Robert crinkling a paper bag for no reason right at the end there.
And listen, we're up against a break, but we got phone calls from Rick Perry and Peter King.
Representative Peter King calls in, plus a lot lot more.
But right now, we're up against a break.
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Let's get back to the second half.
Hey, welcome back to the Jimmy Door show.
I'm joined in the studio by Robert Yasamura and Steph Semerano.
And on the phone, Frank Conniff, all the way from New York City.
And we left when we, what's coming up in the second half?
How about we got phone calls from Rick Perry, Peter King, plus more surprises?
And we're going to talk about the World War II Memorial.
But right now, we're going to talk about Orrin Hatch what he had to say about what's happening in the Republican Party and the outside groups.
He was upset about the outside groups.
And here he talks about the Heritage Foundation.
And some of which have been good think tanks in the past, but now are losing their reputation because of some of this radicalness.
Are you referring to heritage?
Yeah, of course I am.
So he's referring to the Heritage Foundation as being too radical.
These are right-wing groups.
Here's what he says.
Heritage used to be the conservative organization helping Republicans and helping conservatives and helping us to be able to have the best intellectual conservative ideas.
See, yes, see, what the Heritage Foundation used to do was go find intellectual justifications for their backward policies.
And they would come up with things.
So like it was obvious when Bill Clinton became president, it was obvious that people needed health care.
They need some kind of reform for health insurance.
It was obvious, right?
So the Heritage Foundation was like, we got to come up with an answer.
We got to have something.
So they come up with this BS plan that relies on the free, quote-unquote, private free market.
And Barack Obama adopts it.
So that was their job back then.
Like, well, hey, we don't need Medicare for everyone.
We'll have this plan.
We're the intellectuals.
We figured out a conservative way to do this.
We figured out a conservative way to do it.
Well, they don't do that stuff anymore.
They're not offering any ideas except politics.
Now, Jim DeMint runs them.
Yeah, so now Jim DeMitt runs them.
And it's only strategy and politics.
It's not policy.
And this is what Orrin Hatch is saying.
He goes on.
There's a real question in the minds of many Republicans now.
And I'm not just thinking for myself.
For a lot of people, that is heritage going to go so political that it really doesn't amount to anything anymore.
There you go.
So that it really doesn't.
So, you know, the civil war in the Republican Party is full on.
It's full.
We're at Gettysburg right now.
It's happening.
The great thing about a civil war within the Republican Party is that whoever wins, there'll still be slavery.
So here, so here he is.
I mean, he's calling out, you know, it would be like calling out the ACLU.
It would be like Al Gore getting up and saying, I'm done with the ACLU.
You know what I mean?
That's what this is the equivalent of.
That the think tanks, the people where the Republicans get their ideas are now so corrupt that they're poisoning their party, that they have no ideas, that they have no vision for the future.
I enjoy it.
This is what I've been saying.
And I said this to David Feldman on his show when he says, what do you want to do?
You want to annihilate the Republican Party?
You want to get rid of them?
Is that your goal?
Are you like Sherman?
You're going to burn the whole place down.
And I said, no, what I want to do is rid the world of their horrible ideas that have already been debunked.
That's what I want.
I don't want to keep having to fight this trickle-down economics.
I don't want to have to keep fighting the tax cuts for millionaires, create jobs.
I don't want to have to keep fighting these fights over and over.
That no regulation on Wall Street is good.
I'm done with that.
The New Deal worked.
So this is what I want to get rid of.
I want to get rid of these ideas.
And Orrin Hatch seems to be ready to do so too.
So let's do it.
Okay, I got one more.
Hang on, I got it.
I just want to say, like, anytime you deal with trickle-down economics, why does it sound like you're still going to get ripped off?
Yeah.
Yes, because you are.
Because you are going to get ripped off.
Trickle-down economics refers to.
These days, trickle-down economics is the top percent of the 1%, and their money trickling down to the lower part of the 1%.
Yes, yes.
That is pretty much what.
So Jamie Diamond's money and Lloyd Blankfein's money has to, you know, there's something wrong when bankers are the richest guys in the country.
You know, that's just not right.
They don't make anything.
They don't do anything.
All they're doing is finding ways to sell, pretend credit default swaps and credit.
That's nothing.
They move paper around.
They're moving numbers in the air around.
And that's what FDR referred to the meds, the money changers.
They're the money chain.
And that's what Brian, you know, it's not going to happen from Barack Obama, but maybe Hillary Clinton will get a spine.
I doubt it.
No, no one's going to.
Somebody has to.
There's going to be another crash, Frank, and then it'll happen, right?
Well, you know, speaking of FDR, I was reading this book about Joe Kennedy, who was a big part of FDR's campaign in 1932, and he was expecting to get an appointment in the FDR administration when he got elected.
But since Joseph Kennedy was so associated with Wall Street, you know, right after the Depression happened, Roosevelt, it was politically bad news for Roosevelt to have someone so associated with Wall Street in his cabinet.
So he didn't, so he still consulted with him, but he didn't give him an appointment at first.
I mean, that's how different it is with Obama, who appointed nothing but Wall Street.
Right.
Right.
And his whole mantra in 2008 was you can't hire the guys to drive us out of the ditch if they're the same guys who drove us into the ditch.
And that's exactly what he did.
Yeah.
To the point of parroting George Bush heck of a good job.
He said, Larry Summer is doing a heck of a job.
Oh, heck of a job.
So whenever a president says someone's doing a heck of a job, you know it's the exact opposite.
Exactly.
So here's one more.
I got to find, what's this guy's name?
I'll go back and put in posts.
So here I am watching again, Chris Hayes, and he has on yet another Republican, and I can't remember this guy's name.
Let me see.
Republican Representative Jack Kingston from Georgia.
That's who this is.
So he comes on, and Chris Hayes is asking this Republican about, you know, what the party has to do going forward, and he says this.
This could have happened.
Oh, he says, he talks about how this wasn't necessary.
Right.
This wasn't necessary, right?
So, I mean, this all ended exactly how we all thought it was going to end.
And it could have ended two weeks earlier, except John Boehner, for some reason, wanted to drag it out for two more weeks.
I guess to prove the point that he's just as shitty Speaker of the House as Newt Gingrich was, a guy who also shut down the house, and then they immediately fired him from his job as speaker as soon as he did that.
They fired him faster than you can divorce your second wife who's on a cancer bed.
That's how fast they kicked him out of there.
John Boehner's, he thought his ace in the hole was the really good relationship he has with Luke Russell.
Yes, so here he is.
So Chris Hayes makes this point.
Two weeks ago.
What the heck was all this for?
Well, yes and no.
People need to exhibit their beliefs and have the opportunity to debate, which is what we've been able to do in the last two weeks.
And I think you can, you know, from a pessimistic standpoint, say, you guys, you Republicans did not get anything out of it.
But on the other side, I think it was important to us to reestablish our brand as being against Obamacare.
And from what we've seen so far, Obamacare is not going to be a winner.
has not decreased the cost of medicine.
Okay, so let me just He first says we had to do this to take this two-week shutdown so we can have a debate.
That's what he said.
Nobody was talking, apparently, about any of Obamacare, this thing that we've been debating since 2009.
Ever since then, we've been debating this thing, right?
So this thing that's been, and it went to the Supreme Court, and it's got, so it's been on 40 times.
That's happened 40 times in the House.
But we needed two more weeks of government shutdown.
So again, they're lying.
Two weeks of government in which he's lying.
Nobody in the House.
He's lying to us.
He's lying to himself.
He's lying to his constituents.
He's lying to his other party members.
And then he makes that bull.
Go ahead, Frank.
You know what, Jimmy?
And a lot of people have said this already, but what is so stupid about this is that the rollout of Obamacare happened as all this was happening.
And as we all know, it's been very glitchy.
There's been a lot of problems with it.
If they had not done this shutdown, every story on the news would have been about how difficult the rollout of Obamacare is.
And it would have fueled their opposition to Obamacare.
And it would have helped their cause.
So in other words, this was the stupidest thing anybody has ever done in politics.
Like I said, it's worse than Newt Gingrich.
Duke Gingrich, by the way, who then came back, I don't know, 15 years later or 18 years later to reinvent himself as a race baiter whose economic cures involve child labor.
So I wonder what John Boehner.
The media was so outraged by Newt Gingrich's race fading and his advocacy of child labor that they gave him a job.
Yes, they gave him his own show on CNN.
So I think I'm guessing what is what, so John Boehner lost everything, and John Boehner lost everything, everything he could want out of this thing.
He lost.
It went the other way for the Republicans.
So what is he going to, what's he going to come back as in 15 years?
I think he's going to come back as the coach of the Washington Generals.
That's what I think.
Because everybody, you know, everybody likes to see a team lose to the Globetrotters, even though we know what the ending, just like with this, we knew what the ending was, but we still wanted to see John Boehner pick up that big bucket of water and throw it at us and have it be confetti because that's all it was.
It was just confetti.
He had nothing in his chamber except confetti.
I think actually John Boehner is going to come back.
He's going to start a theater career.
He's going to join an Orange Man group.
Well, don't you love how this guy says, well, let me play it again so you get a little bit of a running start so you know exactly what he's saying.
I think it was important to us to reestablish our brand as being against Obamacare.
And from what we've seen so far, Obamacare is not going to be a winner.
It has not decreased the cost.
So he says it was a good chance this House shutdown was a good chance for the Republicans to rebrand themselves.
Once again, let me say to the Republicans, the problem is not your brand.
It's not like you have the world's greatest candy bar and you called it cancer.
Okay.
The problem is, the problem is, Frank, that they're trying to sell the world's smelliest turd, and they think the problem is the rapper.
Right.
But also, like, if they wanted, so he's saying, you know, we really, when it comes to opposing Obamacare, we really want the public to know that that's where the Republicans are at.
So you mean, in other words, voting should be funded 40 times?
Yeah.
Right.
Right.
Yes, yes.
Yeah, you guys rebranded yourself as the party that underestimates the price of defeat.
That's what you guys, you guys rebrand.
Yeah, does everybody, I think everybody gets it now.
Republicans are against Obamacare.
Is that what you're saying, Frank?
That we get it now?
We finally get it?
Yeah.
Yeah, I think people even got that like three weeks ago.
I think people knew that.
I think people do that a while ago.
And just so maybe we can avoid any future shutdowns that the Republicans want to do because they think people don't know what their message is.
I just want to let the Republicans know that we know you think tax cuts create jobs.
We know you think the minimum wage is a job killer.
And we know all these things.
Yeah, we don't need another $24 billion ad campaign to establish these things.
This is probably the most costly thing I've seen in marketing since New Coke.
Yes.
Hello, New Coke.
Hello, New Coke.
I like how he says, you know, it was important for us.
It was important for us.
It's New Coke Brothers now.
Ah, nice, Frank.
I just, I have to say there's such a bittersweet moment here when I recall John Boehner saying that, you know, he got 98% of what he wanted.
And the last debt ceiling debate showdown.
Yeah, he got 98% of what he wanted.
And he was pretty...
Oh, he was so cocky.
Oh, smug.
Oh.
And this was...
You know, I...
Yes.
Isn't this when you would cry, John?
No, so I just want to say it's funny that that congressman said, well, it was important for us to rebrand.
Yeah, it was also important for you to show how bad you guys are at politics and calculating your chances for success.
Yes, it's important for you to show that you weren't afraid to stand up for the American people in a way that they all hated.
Courageously doing unpopular things.
By the way, I am in disagreement with a lot of people about what John Boehner's role in this is.
I think this played out exactly as John Boehner's handlers decided it would.
I think that they said to him, no you may not have an up or down vote until the last possible second and if you try to a lot of people are going to get primaried and you will no longer be speaker yes but if but but we'll let you in the end take this to an up or down vote but you're gonna you're gonna play this out and and i i don't think it was boehner any of this had to do with boehner's abilities or skill set he was told he was given marching orders well now luke
Russert says that John Boehner has, this has given him bona fides, this gives him credibility with the Tea Party now.
For some reason.
I think it does, unfortunately.
It does somehow.
How does it do it?
But because they don't have to use logic.
They're not constrained by logic like we are or things that make sense.
They can just do whatever they want.
So now they're praising him.
He let them get away with this for a long time.
He didn't stop them from doing what they were doing.
And in the end, he let them also save face by voting against every reasonable measure.
By putting this to an up or down, all those people can go back to their constituencies and say, I voted against this.
Yes.
So I don't know why the Tea Party wouldn't love him.
He is basically the babysitter who let you eat candy.
I don't – I'm with you.
Well, I think what the Tea Party, though, their problem with him is partly they don't like people of color.
Republican Representative Peter King from New York is upset with the Tea Party, and he said the GOP is going nuts.
And so we got him on the phone.
Here we go.
Hello, Representative King.
Who's this?
This is Jimmy Dore from the Jimmy Dore Show.
Oh.
Oh, how are you?
I'm good.
Thanks for taking time out.
You know, usually you're the crazy guy.
Ah, Jesus Christ.
You seem a little upset.
What are you upset about?
Ah, well, you're kidding me?
These goddamn Tea Parties are here.
They're rolling on everything we're doing with the Republican Party here.
One minute, I'm race-baiting Muslims, and then the next minute, these goddamn fucking Tea Parties are coming here, and they say, fuck the whole thing up for everybody.
Yeah, I know.
You had it going well, and then – Yeah.
Usually you're the guy who's out of bounds.
That's the weird thing, right?
I know.
These guys make me look like a reasonable son of a bitch.
Yes, you sound very reasonable.
Now, you voted for the – to open, right?
For who?
Well, you voted to open the government back up tonight.
You voted for this bill.
Yeah.
I'm not crazy.
I'm just a Republican.
I just wanted to open the goddamn government back up.
These goddamn fucking retards from Kentucky.
Fuck everything up.
And Cruz.
Oh, I can't say retard, huh?
No.
An epithet.
Epictaph.
Ah, jeez.
I'm being bullied from all sides here.
my wife just got home edith be quiet did you say your wife's name's Edith yeah so oh okay well that's just you know that it's it's just kind of funny because uh why did you did you tell her to stifle yeah well I want her to shut up that's what I say well that's just Archie Bunker used to say that and he was like the caricature of an ignoramus so that's why that's kind of oh Archie Bunker from All in the Family a show from the 70s.
I never watched that crap.
Yeah, but you remember.
No.
Oh, yeah.
That's the one with the he's got like eight kids.
No, that's different.
I was eight is enough.
That's a different show.
Listen.
But from two different families?
No, that was the Brady Bunch.
Listen.
Oh, the blanketed son that runs a junkyard.
No, no, that was the Sanford son.
This was the all-in-the-family with Carol O'Connor.
Never saw it.
Yeah, well, he was with, and his wife's name was Edith.
And by the way, young Rob Reiner played his son-in-law, Michael Stibich, who he used to refer to as Meathead.
That's funny.
That's what I call my son-in-law.
Yeah, see, that's why this is kind of weird because you called your wife, you sold her to stifle.
And that's what Archie Bunker used to say.
He used to use those terms, stifle, which is very offensive to say to anybody, especially your own wife, tell her to stifle.
Yeah, well, does this Archie Bunker look reasonable in retrospect like me?
Sort of growing the extremism of the Republican Party.
Right.
No, he's still kind of funny.
He's still kind of looked at as a joke.
Well, those were easy at times.
There were white Muslims running around all over the place back then.
Yeah, no, this is true.
There weren't Muslims running around all over the place.
Yeah, the country's crawling now.
Blowing this up, blowing it up.
We should be focusing on that, not these crazy Hilt elite from Texas and Kentucky coming in here, telling us how to run the goddamn government.
I know.
Peter King, I know.
Well, I appreciate you being on the right side of this, and I appreciate you standing up to the crazies in your party, Peter.
Usually it's you who has to be stood up to, but that's how crazy things are getting.
I know.
It's bananas.
Who are you again?
This is Jimmy Doerr.
It doesn't matter.
Listen, thanks, Peter.
Okay.
Get out of my chair, get out of my chair, get out of my chair.
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And on the line, we have Governor Rick Perry.
Hello, Governor.
Are you there, Governor?
Governor?
What?
Who?
Oh, I'm sorry.
I just woke up.
Governor, what do you think of the shutdown, the government shutdown?
Can you tell us?
That's the worst thing that's ever happened.
You mean the worst thing is the government shutting down or reopening?
Which is it?
I don't know.
You don't know which one is worse?
You can't tell me?
I don't know what's going on.
Okay, all right.
So can I get your thoughts on it, though?
The government shut down?
What are your thoughts on it?
Can I get this?
This would never happen in Texas.
You mean the government?
No, it wouldn't happen.
The government wouldn't shut down at a state level.
That's what you mean?
Well, first of all, we only meet like once every two years.
So it sounds like it wouldn't be so bad then.
Yeah, it'd be a horrible thing if we shut stuff down in Texas.
We wouldn't be able to do the great stuff that Texas does.
Like we won't be able to launch space, people up in space.
The Johnson Space Center be shut down.
No, that's NASA.
That's a federal government.
That's not the state government.
Oh, is NASA?
Is that a federal government?
Yeah, that's a federal.
Yeah, they're a federal government.
That explains why they don't take my calls.
Why not call them and see if they can see Jesus in their telescope.
That makes sense now.
Hey, what does NASA stand for?
Anything?
It's national, something, something.
What is it?
Administration.
Yeah, but then what's that second word?
Aeronautics?
Is that the word?
Aeronautics, that's right.
Yeah, but that doesn't sound like a real word.
Aeronautics.
Yeah, that doesn't sound like a real word.
That sounds like a word.
I'll be honest, Rick.
That sounds like a word that you would make up.
You know what I mean?
Aeronautics?
Is that a real word?
I don't know.
Maybe I did make it up.
You'll know.
Maybe I coined that word before you were born.
Okay.
And do you know what that word means, aeronautics?
Do you know what that means?
Yeah, like arrow.
Uh-huh.
Like a thing you shoot up in the air.
Arrow.
Okay.
And nautics is, you know, like sleek, you know, vessels.
Sleek vessels?
That's a weird word.
I got to say, Aaron August.
Yeah, you can sound it out.
That's what I do.
You sound it out?
Okay.
Space is deep, man.
What do you mean, space is deep?
It's weird.
Yeah, I know.
What do you mean?
I don't like space because there's just what?
You know what I mean?
The Bible didn't say nothing about it.
And then we find it.
What is all?
What is all this shit?
You mean the Bible didn't mention?
So you're surprised that a first century book doesn't talk about space.
Barts of it are even way older than that.
Yeah.
Oh, wait.
That proves your point even more.
Yes, yes.
So what do you think about space?
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know about space, man.
I just don't think that there's, I don't think America should be involved in it.
You think America shouldn't be involved with space exploration, Governor?
Is that what you're saying?
Yeah, it's just not Christian, man.
Space exploration isn't Christian.
Why are we exploring something that God doesn't?
I don't know.
I don't know what I'm saying.
So you don't like space because it's not mentioned in the Bible.
Is that what you're saying?
I think we shut, maybe we should shut down.
NASA shut it down?
Maybe the government shut down is a good thing.
Shut down space, too.
You can't shut down space.
Yeah, no one don't go.
So now that you know that NASA is a federal program and it's from the federal government, what do you think a state government shutdown in Texas would look like now that you know NASA is not part of your state government?
What would it look like?
A state government?
Well, you know, if we shut down, you know, basically it'd just be like, you know, with a brief period of us not fucking with Thomas Jefferson's legacy in the textbook.
I'm trying to redefine slavery as indentured servitude.
And, you know, women could get health care and stuff.
You know, it's like a gap of that sort of stuff.
Wow, it sounds like a big deal.
It would just sort of stop that process for a little bit.
Yeah, yeah.
But that sounds like a big deal, actually, all that stuff happening.
Don't you think?
Yeah, if that were to happen, if there were government shutdown Texas IT, I would roll up my sleeves and I would get down to business.
I would say, hey, quit shutting stuff down.
Buckle down.
Sit down.
Get back to the business of government, making sure they're teaching creation in schools.
So that's what you do.
You just make sure that they're teaching.
What about rolling up my sleeves?
How what?
I don't understand.
I've found that most problems are, you know, stuff that can be solved or at least mitigated by just rolling up your sleeves.
What?
Which is weird because the rolling up your pants legs tends to cause problems.
That's the exact opposite effect.
Really?
No pant rolling then?
Your thumbs down on the pant rolling?
You're in the middle of a situation, you're like, okay, I'm going to roll up my pants.
No one has a feeling of a guy taking charge.
It's more of a value, isn't it?
But if you roll up your sleeves, people are like, all right, this guy's going to fix this.
How do you know this stuff, Governor?
How do you know that?
I'm a student of the human condition.
Okay, I bet you are a student.
Hey, Jimmy, do you know what closure is?
Closure?
Closure is like a new age term that people pretend that you can somehow get to an emotional place where a loss, a death of someone doesn't bother you anymore.
Like somehow you have closed it.
But that always bothers people.
That's what closure is.
I'm pretty sure.
Hey, Jimmy, what's cloture?
Oh, cloture.
Cloture is a little tougher.
What do you think cloture is?
Can you tell me, Government?
I think it's like closure, but like more serious.
What do you think?
Do you know when people say like, I need closure on this?
Like when they really mean, they're like, I need cloture on this.
All right.
Well, Governor, we're out of time.
I appreciate you checking in with us, and we'll check back to you after the government.
Bye-bye.
Okay, bye-bye.
All right.
That was Governor Rick Perry.
That was great.
That was great.
Thank you.
Governor Rick Perry.
All right.
Hats off to Mike McRae and the Governor Rick Perry.
And I would like to let you know if there's some more.
We have some more calls this week.
We asked Ron Paul.
We asked Ron Paul about how he doesn't, how does he, if he's for the government shutdown, what does he doesn't he worry about the effects on poor people?
But he says the free market figs.
How do you say it, Ron?
Well, the free market thinks about it.
Yeah, but that's.
We need to keep the free market all greased and properly tenants.
And all these problems will solve themselves.
That's what you need to tell yourself in order to not worry about it.
Oh, that the problem solve themselves for the free market.
The invisible hand.
How does the free market.
So there's a lot more where that came from.
Plus, we have Sarah Palin calling in.
She reveals something about her hunting activities with her father.
When I was a little girl, and I would go hobo hunting with my daddy.
What?
Is that a thing?
He'd always turn to me and say, Carol, he could never remember my name.
He'd say, Terry, if a black man ever offers you affordable health care, don't you take it?
Because the next thing you know, he'll be offering you this giant black trouser snake.
Don't be a vessel for beige babies.
Then he'd shoot a hobo in the head and take his shoes as a trophy.
I miss you, Daddy.
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