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Nov. 21, 2025 - Jim Bakker Show
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The Jim Bakker Show with Tina Griffin
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Standing Up Against Fear 00:08:33
Welcome to the Jim Baker Family Show.
Today, our special guest is the founder of the Counterculture Mom Show, Tina Griffin.
Our co-host today is Reverend Mondo De La Vega.
And now here's your host, Pastor Ricky Baker.
Hello, friends.
You're watching the PTL Television Network.
I'm here.
Joined as my brother, Reverend Reverend.
Come on, how are you?
Good to see you.
Where'd you get the title, Reverend, from?
Reverend, you know, I earned.
I'm kidding.
It's a joke.
It's a joke.
We like to harass each other.
Mondo, you've been going out preaching, speaking.
You were just on Sid's Roths.
It's supernatural.
Tell us about that experience because I feel like for a lot of us, I've never been on that show.
I've seen it.
I've watched it.
That's a once-in-a-lifetime experience.
For some people, they're on multiple times, but for a lot of people, that's a once-in-a-lifetime experience.
Listen, I got the call from Sid and said, I would like you to be on my show.
And I said, Sid, respectfully, I've watched you over the years.
My story doesn't fit your format, your program.
And he laughed and he said, I don't care.
The Holy Spirit told me to bring you.
And I want you to share your testimony.
And as I'm sitting there, first and foremost, this man is a gentleman.
He's a general in the faith.
He's a good man.
And as I was there, I couldn't help myself but to think about that's crazy.
No, that was a God moment.
God moment.
And when you realize that God will invite you to tables that maybe you don't feel prepared to step into, God prepares the way for the message that he brought you out of in order to tell the world that it was a God moment.
So being with Sid was an amazing, the episode is going to air.
Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
Yeah, they're going to air soon.
You can watch.
If you watch It's Supernatural, the program is going to air sometime in November.
And I can't wait.
And it's opening amazing opportunities to keep sharing the gospel of what the Lord did in my life.
Hey, man, speaking of the supernatural, it's those who are really staying with the ministry, standing, supporting.
And friends, I want to say thank you.
It really is supernatural for us to say, you know, we see there's transitional times.
We see that there's times where you're saying, well, where's our friend, Pastor Jim Baker?
I was just on the phone with him last night.
He wants to come back film.
We're actually going to try to move him to a closer house so that he's here, closer to our studios.
Friends, keep praying for your friend, Jim Baker.
But it's supernatural that you have stuck with us.
You have fought the good fight with us through highs and through lows, through valleys, through mountaintops.
You said, you know what?
We're going to continue to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ with you.
And how do you do that with us?
You continue to support the ministry first and foremost in your prayers, but then also in your finances.
Those who support us monthly, I want to say thank you.
It is really from the bottom of our hearts.
We know for a fact there's the core people who say, you know what?
Month after month, we're going to stand with you.
And I want to say thank you for that.
Those who are following the transition of the PTL network, as we go more uncensored, as we go more bold for the gospel of Jesus Christ, thank you for standing with us.
Because you know, Mondo, sometimes when you're bold and you're out there and you're just saying whatever God tells you to, sometimes people start backing off a little bit.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, at the same time, America just elected a communist socialist mayor.
That's right.
And they're not afraid to talk about it.
Why should we not talk about what we feel our truth is?
That's right.
And I want to tell you something.
The truth of the gospel will set you free, but it's not the time to be standing and being afraid or walking in fear.
The Bible says that he's given us a spirit, right, of what?
Authority.
Authority in the menu.
Sound mind.
Sound mind.
I mean, you keep preaching the gospel while I'm talking, but I want to tell you something.
That's what we're here to do.
And we want you to join us in that journey.
It's not time, Ricky, to back away.
No.
Not when we're seeing Christian brothers and sisters being massacred in Nigeria and hardly anybody's talking about it.
Hardly anybody's posting about it.
Why is it that we don't stand up and talk about the truth?
Not the president sent a clear message.
That's right.
But what about the church?
Why aren't we standing up and declaring war where war is being declared upon us?
That's right.
It's not a time for us to be, listen, we get sued.
We get, by the way, Ricky and I get crazy calls.
Death threats.
Death threats and crazy calls.
But I want to tell you something.
It's not time to be fearful.
I welcome it because we know who wins.
We know that to live.
Make sure you're not going to be able to fight.
Absolutely.
You know why?
In the streets, we were never afraid to a fight.
Yeah.
Why am I going to be afraid now standing up for the gospel?
And you do that when you support this ministry.
When you give financially, you're declaring war on the devil that says, you know what?
We're not going to stay quiet.
The time to speak is now.
And call the number throughout the whole program.
Pray about how you want to stand with us financially because that's how you're going to help us be the voice out there.
Call the number right now, 1-888-988-1588.
Amen.
Speaking of unashamed for the gospel, today we have with us Tina Griffin.
Tina, I want to say thank you for being on the broadcast.
It's the Counter Culture Mom Show.
Give us a quick synopsis of what that is and how people can watch you.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, the Counterculture Mom Show is basically dropping a bomb on different topics that typically churches do not talk about around the globe today that really hardly have ever talked about, which is why we're in the mess that we're in.
But we also know that the Lord warned us in the end times, you will see all this unravel and churches will become lukewarm.
But at the same time, with the lukewarmness, there are warriors being driven to the surface because they see the corruption.
They want to speak boldly.
They want to make sure their lives count.
And so it's a neat time to be living in.
Yes, there are bullets flying our direction.
I have like 52 notes I took while you guys just did your opener on yes, yes, and yes.
But with bullets flying, that just means we're doing the right thing.
So there's, we are nearing the end.
We're in the 11th hour, 59th minute.
And who knows the rapture might happen while we're taping this today.
So tell us right now, you know what you're doing.
Give us a little bit more backstory.
You've been attacked.
You guys have been ridiculed.
You guys have just been going through really what the devil thinks is going to be your destruction, but we believe is going to be an even bigger moment for the Counterculture Mom Show for your ministry.
Tell us a little bit about it because what you're doing, Mondo, I mean, I think it's incredible.
Like she said, they're kind of, you know, they're dropping a bomb on relevant topics right now.
You guys aren't shying away from any topic.
As I was scrolling through websites, as I was watching videos, there isn't a topic that you aren't addressing right now from a biblical perspective.
Why is that?
And, you know, why do you continue to fight the good fight, even whenever you're getting attacked so much?
Man, I am the kind of person, type A on steroids, where if I know information in my brain and I don't share it with the masses, I feel such a sense of responsibility and that I'm actually not being obedient to the Lord's calling on my life.
You know, the strength finders test I did when I was about 16, 17 years old.
It's a short little book.
It goes through all the different types of characteristics and personality traits that you have.
Mine wasn't communication.
It was command, which was absolutely hilarious.
I don't know if I should have been in the army.
And responsibility was number one.
And so since I was a kid, if I knew truth and I had it backed up with the word of God, I could not remain silent.
And as I grew older, I have, yes, many death threats.
A demon in my vehicle trying to steer me into a semi on the way to a youth group conference in Boston to demonic activity going on in Bolivia.
When I spoke with an interpreter talking to college students on a campus, you could feel the demonic presence.
It's them, the demons, literally flung open these glass windows at the top of this tall school hall building and flicked the latch open.
The windows hit the cement wall, shattered, and then it flung back shut.
There was no wind that day.
So I've had a lot of demonic attack.
Yet at the same time, when that happens to me, it might throw me down to the ground for a couple of seconds, but I'm a kind of person that bounces back quickly because the Lord said, You're on the right track, keep moving forward.
And the whole topic of fear, I just want to address this, like we've talked about in the show for the last couple of weeks in different topics we've addressed, is so many pastors and speakers today say fear this and you know, fear that.
And here's why you should know that fear should not stop you.
But fear to me, if we have it, is a sign that we're doing exactly what God has called us to do because the devil is trying to come in and wreak havoc on the calling God placed in our lives.
Children Rebelling Against Authority 00:06:23
So if you are fearing something, that is a sign that you're on the right track.
Keep moving forward.
With that said, I started speaking around the globe when I was about 24, 25 years old.
I did the Miss America pageant when I lived in Los Angeles.
Prior to that, I was a farm kid in Wisconsin.
My parents thought it was nuts.
My dad's like, no way are you leaving the farm?
You've got to stay here close to me.
My mom was like, go pursue your dreams.
And so at 20, I headed out west, 2,000 miles from the dairy farm in Wisconsin, started working in film and TV, got a film and television broadcasting BA from Cal State, Los Angeles.
But while I was in college, I worked, gosh, probably 30, 40 hours a week and as a full-time student, but I also work full-time in film and TV.
And so seeing the lies of people I used to work in the government and I'd have a lot of interesting conversations on SAP doing the Miss America pageant, which opened the doors to the speaking, I then did that for about 20 years, exposing the lies of pop culture and how Satan was using a false message through film, TV, movies, video games, books, public policy and law, all of it, education system to drive home the opposite message of what God wants for our young people today.
And Satan knows if we can warp our young people's minds as a young person, he believes he has them for life.
So it's critical we address these topics with our kids.
Fast forward 20 years of speaking, five years ago, I do a seven-minute rant, truthful rant about COVID, the certification of vaccine ID, how this is a depopulation plot from the pit of hell.
Satan wants to wipe out humanity.
That's really where it's at.
And if you connect all the dots, 30 years of research in the Luciferian agenda, Council on Foreign Relations, everything going on with the New World Order, Cashless Society, I all of a sudden, my brain started like lighting up during COVID, saying, This is it.
All the pieces started lining up.
And then this program, the Counterculture Mom Show, was born.
And through that, the Lord already told me seven years ago, actually, 12 years ago now, Tina, I want you to line up all of these guests that I'm bringing your direction from different speaking engagements, people I was on tour with, people I met in Hollywood, film and TV shows, to then put in a spreadsheet.
So I was creating this spreadsheet that God told me to put together.
And he said, when the time is right, you're going to have a national TV radio program.
I want to do a radio TV show since I was 16.
So the last five years, almost five years now, and over 900 episodes, we've been pounding the pavement with all these topics that God has opened my eyes to through 30 years of research, both in film and TV firsthand in Hollywood, and then through the phenomenal guests of the experts that know even more than I do on these phenomenal subjects to talk about issues that parents are blowing our Instagram up with, other social media platforms, our emails, websites texting me saying, you came here and spoke 20 years ago.
I'm now seeing exactly what's unraveling.
Please tell us how do we navigate this crap from Hollywood, aka Satan, so our kids can become counterculture warriors and be ready for battle each and every day in America.
So all these dots are connecting at this critical hour, just like the topics you're addressing on your program.
God is waking up the masses through means other than, yes, the churches absolutely has to wake up and start talking about these topics.
But he's like, if the church isn't addressing it, I've got these warriors that I've been equipping for three decades.
It's go time.
Tina, what message that American young voters just sent to the world on electing a socialistic, really a communist.
Communist.
I know what it boils down to.
And the idea is this.
America has adopted socialism in our schools in ways that parents today don't even understand.
Yet we saw the results or the fruits in electing a mayor that is not shying away about his stance.
What message that America young people just sent to the world by electing this mayor?
We are a product of the environment that parents and grandparents have created for us.
And now we're living out the very thing you did or didn't do for the last couple of decades.
Our children are a product of the environment of a lack of us teaching the word of God to our children, period.
For being lax when we should have been on our school boards, for being lax in the pulpit when we should be teaching the flock every single Sunday, Wednesday night at youth group, and us as parents throughout the week on exactly what the word of God is.
With the lack of knowledge, according to scripture, my people will perish.
And we're seeing our socialist movement from our young people today because they have a lack of knowledge.
And it also goes along with scripture saying in the end times, the children will rebel against their parents, will rebel against leadership, will rebel against our government.
And our government has become corrupt as a result of a lack of being involved as citizens in a country that God has blessed 250 years ago to take care of.
Is it a, how do I even explain this?
We see the problem.
Does it mean it's not fixable?
Absolutely not, because the harvest is ripe.
We are now seeing that we are reaping what we did for the last couple of decades.
The wake-up call has happened.
What do we do?
Share Christ with every single person while we still have a chance, while we still have a mouth, while we still have airwaves to be on, while we still have a chance to go door to door.
I mean, we saw what COVID did.
They were telling us to stay six feet apart.
Why?
Because they don't want the truth of God shared.
You got to wear a mask.
You can't sing in church.
Why?
Because they want to try to shut us up in every single avenue that would be allowing us to go out and preach the gospel.
What would Jesus do, not wear a mask and be literally preaching six inches away from us, giving us hugs, not being segregated?
I want to quickly rip through what the, I think the main problem is with what just happened in New York so we can hopefully curb, stop, halt, and wake up the masses with the time that we've got left.
Step Eight: Forced Injections 00:03:40
I'm looking at a COVID-19 roadmap that I've been talking about for the last five years.
There's a 12-step solution, and this solution is coming from the communist regime on how to take over America, which there's been communist goals written back in 1958 to take over America.
Only one of those goals has not happened yet, and that's to take over our police force.
So America is hanging by a thread.
We have to absolutely do everything we can do to reach the loss for Christ.
This 12-step solution, according to communists, to take over America is the following.
And I'm going to paraphrase.
Step one, create a fake scare to terrify people into compliance.
Done.
Step two, lockdowns.
Impose the lockdowns to start the process of eliminating small businesses.
That happened.
Step three, impose surveillance and start a police state.
It's done.
We've done smart city different episodes.
We've talked about the fraudulent election system, all of it.
Step four, impose face masks and anti-social distancing.
If people even knew what was in a face mask, they would not want to put it on.
There's parasites crawling out of these face masks.
There's rats crawling over the face masks.
Regardless, Fauci is seen wearing six face masks.
And the second the camera's turned off, he's taking it off.
Step five, push genetically modifying COVID injections.
They did not, that they did that.
Now we see the repercussions even a couple years later.
The horrific thing is we can't quantify just how many millions of people are dying over the last couple of years or have massive medical complications or the millions of babies lost in the process because you can't connect all the COVID injections with all that horrific ordeal happening.
Plus, the mainstream media, we all know, is never going to report that that even came from the COVID depopulation agenda.
But there's more COVID chaos to come.
Step six, impose digital health passports.
It's here.
Step seven, trigger a series of depopulation waves.
They've done it.
Pathogenic priming, death rates among injected people that start a rise that's very rapidly killing off our kids and us as adults.
Step eight, force mandatory top-up COVID injections and digital identities.
That's here.
It's 5G.
We've done a ton of series on 5G, tracking and tracing.
We just did for our 900th episode early October at counterculturemom.com.
Dr. Carrie Medet came on and gave a very good history of COVID, but also talked about the nanobot and nanotechnology that every person, we can't hide on the globe, that has nanobot technology in our blood, in our brain,
in our muscle tissue, all of it that's creating through injections, through shedding from other people that got shots, through baby vaccines, through our food, through our water, through our chemtrails, and a whole host of other garbage purposely done, where that nanotechnology is now literally constructing robot-type devices in our bodies.
Some of this stuff is way over the top over my head of comprehension, but when I see the video footage, it makes sense because Elusifians want tracking and tracing.
Last couple steps, trigger a full global economic crash.
I believe we're right around the corner for that.
Step 10, impose digital currencies and abolish cash, right around the corner for that.
Step 11, impose universal basic income schemes with strings attached.
Signs Of The Times 00:10:20
We're there.
Step 12, this is to answer your question fully.
It will literally arrive at the new normal that they've been talking about, peace and safety, security.
Scripture warns us that is exactly right before the Lord returns.
Step 12 is arrive at the new normal, 21st century communism, fascism.
That's where New York with the new mayor in place is just showing us how close we are to the end of literally seeing communism on American soil full-fledged.
If you don't recognize the signs, you're going to be in trouble.
Open your eyes.
Absolutely.
But yet, Ricky, at the same time, what's moving the needle right now is the political feel.
Yes.
When you see America moving towards depending on political leaders to move the needle and move us forward.
You're a young generation.
What does that make you feel?
Uneasy.
Yeah, it makes you feel you realize once you come to the conclusion that the government is able to move the needle on if people get fed or people don't get fed, if people have necessities, if people don't have necessities, it's a dangerous place to be because whatever agenda they want to push, whether they're our Democrats in office, Republicans in office, we have independents, no matter what it is, we realize their agenda can be pushed and people can stop being fed.
Their agenda can be pushed and people can stop being taken care of.
It's really an uneasy place to set.
But I've said this for many times.
Friends, the church must step up in the day that we're living in.
There should be no hungry people where there are churches in the area.
There should be no kids missing meals where there are churches in the area.
If we took the mandate of Jesus seriously, we'd be taking care of people, whether you agree with them or whether you don't agree with them, whether they're in your denomination, whether they're not in your denomination.
We would be taking care of people, period, if we actually believed the gospel.
Absolutely.
That's what the gospel is all about.
Tina, what is one of the things that you think maybe a blinder, like a blinder is being pulled over parents' eyes, a concern that you have for the next generation that you think parents are just, you know, maybe brushing off is not important?
Man, you guys rock.
I love you both dearly.
There's not many people that are in front of the battle lines.
I just want to say everybody out there tuning in, please support what they're doing.
Donate to their cause.
Let everybody know about their program.
Our program is the Counterculture Mom Show because education is key.
With the lack of knowledge, people perish.
It comes right back to that again.
A lot of parents really are, number one, overwhelmed.
And typically, a busy parent myself, we have four kids that we homeschool, 16 down to 12.
We had four kids in four years.
Still got half of my hair left, not because they're horrible children.
They're amazing.
Let's all talk at once.
And at the same time, I want to make sure that I'm spending the time with our children and try to save America at the same time to help other kids that might not have the guidance that they need and the knowledge that they need.
And now having four kids in a row doing this ministry for about 25 years, it went from Team Re Live to the Counterculture Mom Show because I'm seeing the importance of overwhelmed parents that are seeking guidance.
They don't know who to trust.
They don't have a lot of bandwidth and time to research and they don't even know what to research.
So a lot of it isn't that parents don't care.
They're just not aware because they don't know where to go to get the answers.
And even if they read scripture, which is absolutely critical in this day and age, teach your kids scripture every single day.
We read for at least a half an hour, if not 45 minutes, in the Word of God with our four kids at the kitchen table every single day.
If we skip a day, we can tell we skipped that day.
It's critical.
Scripture is critical.
And then what's also important is being educated about our current culture so we know how to apply scripture to our current culture so we can combat it and wake up the people that don't know God so they're not deceived any longer.
To answer your question, a couple of topics that is absolutely affecting our kids and all of this matters, these are just some topics that we shot since July that I'm going to quickly rattle off.
A life reset.
A lot of us as parents need to just literally clean the slate from our lives and reevaluate every single thing we're currently doing.
Are we doing good when we should be doing God's best?
Is there stuff we're filling our days with that are a time sucker that really isn't God's calling on our life?
That's a big one.
Do our kids need to be in 15 sports?
Maybe pick one thing they excel at.
My son, 16-year-old son, loved football.
He was good at it, but he told me, Mom, I actually want to start taking pilot classes.
I don't think it's necessary I take football.
I'm not going to be in the NFL.
That was a jawdropper.
Why do we have our kids involved with certain activities?
Is it really what they're good at, or we just want to say that we're super busy all the time and that our kids are so involved and they're such great kids?
Where does God want our children?
I always look at it through the grid of, let's say we have five years left on God's green earth, and I really think we might only have five years left.
If that's the case, what should we be doing with our children right now today that matters where they can be used by God as a teenager to witness to their lost friends?
I'm having all of my kids not only be doing the Liberty Online Academy this year, we pulled them out of public school.
We had them in for two years.
What I thought was correct and then some with the disaster there, but they've also learned a lot.
I want them to be in the world, not of it.
And they witnessed to their friends in school.
But now they're doing Liberty Online.
And to talk about the life reset, my kids are also doing a lot of research and I'm making them watch.
At first, they were disgruntled.
Now they're learning about the truth behind the dollar bill, the upcoming cashless society, learning about how our government was founded on American godly values, what that means, learning how they can have an impact in their culture, but learning about the lies as a teenager, just like I did.
The other things that we talk on, fasting for Jesus, what does that look like?
Pros and cons of AI, investing in Gen Z, sickness of Scientology.
We had people on that signed up celebrities in Hollywood on our Scientology series.
It went viral.
People want to know the truth about Scientology, not just dropping the bomb on this is a disastrous type of worldview, but how do we witness to Scientology?
People that are ingrained in it.
It was a phenomenal eye-opener.
De-stigmatizing the disabled.
We have the wrong views of the disabled today that we're trying to fix the people that are in wheelchairs.
What if that is the calling that God placed in our life for the moment, not they need to be fixed?
They're just like us.
And a lot of disabled people came on our program talking about the fact that they don't want to be fixed.
They love who they are and how can they be used by God mightily to advance the kingdom.
That was an eye-opener.
Using weather as a weapon, we talked about dues, directed energy weapons, how many fires today are started and land grabs are happening by our government.
Very corrupt.
We have people on from Maui whose properties burned down to the ground.
Tragedy, trauma, and PTSD.
How can we help people that are traumatized?
Most of us today have been traumatized.
Cast the Society caution, government land grab, living in the end days, portal phenomenon.
Wow.
We're currently seeing a lot of demonic activity.
What's up with portals?
Nanobot invasion, healing power of forgiveness, the freedom of forgiveness, demonization over the week of Halloween, purposely released that week, and finishing 2025 strong.
Parents, I promise you, our episodes are 25 minutes for a reason.
We know your time is valuable.
We know you don't have a lot of time.
I also do a third of the program in the beginning with the problem, two-thirds of the rest of the program with solutions, not just what they are, but how to apply them in your house so you can see quick wins, so you're energized, full of power and strengthened and ready to tackle the next issue we talk about the very next week.
So I can't put a one-word answer to what's the biggest problem, but I can see that overall, our kids are getting a Luciferian demon-driven message from film and TV, all facets of entertainment, and entertainment is entertaining, but it's mostly demons entertaining our children today.
Yes, even our Christian kids, and they're not getting enough truth to combat the mess.
And I also don't think kids should be in a bubble.
So if you're going to watch a movie that has a two-minute scene, don't make it super graphic.
But if something does pop up, use it as a teaching moment.
If you see a billboard when you're driving down the street, say, okay, kids, what's wrong about that message or that image?
And if they have enough God in them from the biblical studies you're teaching them and educational shows like yours and mine, our children today, and I even tell parents, have your kids watch our episodes.
Totally suitable for kids, teens, tweens, and toddlers at this point, where our kids can say, mom, that billboard, that's, first of all, that chick needs to put some clothes on because that's not giving the right message.
Or secondly, let's say if it's a pro-abortion sign, mom, abortion, that sign is saying that abortion is no big deal, just a massive fetal tissue.
But we know, mom, according to the word of God, that God knew us before we're even conceived in the mother's womb.
Friends, I encourage you, go watch the counterculture mantra, download the app, get involved with what they're doing, because what they're doing is preaching truth around the world.
Friends, thank you for supporting the PTL television network as we continue to pioneer forward being really, I believe, the most uncensored Christian network that has ever existed.
We're letting the people come on and preach the message of the gospel of Jesus Christ without censorship.
Whatever it is that the Lord told the prophet, let the prophet prophesy.
Whatever it is the Lord told the pastor, let him preach his message in the fullness of what God called him to do.
Friends, that's all the time we have today.
I encourage you, download the PTL app and re-watch this episode on video on demand.
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I want to say thank you, Tina Griffin, for being on the broadcast with us today.
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