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Born Again Ministry
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| Welcome to the Jim Baker Family Show. | |
| Our special guest is Pastor Juan Martinez. | |
| Our co-host today is Reverend Mondo de la Vega. | |
| And now, here is your host, Pastor Ricky Baker. | |
| Hello, friends. | |
| You're watching the PTL Television Network. | |
| It's exciting. | |
| You have tuned in with us today. | |
| Friends, I'm wearing a jacket. | |
| Some people may say it's controversial, but it's not a political statement. | |
| It's Make America Born Again. | |
| And friends, if you're watching this and you know Jesus Christ, there should be nothing more than you want than to see our nation covered in the blood of Jesus and see people actually walking in relationship with him. | |
| Pastor Juan Martinez, welcome back, day two with us today. | |
| How are you doing? | |
| Nice to see you. | |
| This is actually a part of your ministry that you do. | |
| It's a branch of clothing called Hevakins. | |
| You know, explain to what that is and explain why you made such a controversial sweater that I'm wearing today. | |
| You know, a lot of times we put things above the kingdom. | |
| And if we keep the kingdom first, then everything else will be great, right? | |
| So we'll fight about things that Jesus probably never would fight about, right? | |
| But the reality is that, you know, like the book says, right, that that's God part is the important part. | |
| And as a Hevakan, one day I was preaching and there was a lot of racial divide, you know, there was a lot of racial divide and I was trying to explain to people. | |
| And I said, listen, if you're from America, you're an American. | |
| If you're, you know, from Africa, you're an African. | |
| If you are Puerto Rican, that means you're from Puerto Rico. | |
| The Apostle Paul says that we're citizens of heaven. | |
| That means that we're Hevikans. | |
| That means that wherever we go, we actually release heaven. | |
| That's really what it's supposed to be. | |
| If I come from another place, when I was younger in New York, you know, they had diplomatic plates. | |
| They could park wherever. | |
| And I never understood it until later, right? | |
| Because I would see it and I'd be like, man, why they get to park there? | |
| I can't park there. | |
| And later in life, I found out that when they come here, even though they're in America, if you're from France and you're a diplomat, you're here and the rules of France apply to you even though you're here. | |
| So as a citizen of heaven, I started thinking and I was like, wait a minute, if we're citizens of heaven under a king, then when I'm here, I'm supposed to, if I, you need healing, whatever I touch should bring heaven. | |
| Whatever I say should bring heaven. | |
| Everything that I do brings heaven. | |
| So this is where it came out, the Hevikin, because we're all citizens of heaven. | |
| Could you imagine if we put ourselves under the banner of Christ and citizens of heaven, we would all be brothers and sisters? | |
| That'd be good. | |
| Yeah. | |
| We'd truly see America born again once again. | |
| Yes, we need America born again. | |
| We need the world born again. | |
| Amen. | |
| This country was founded on godly principles. | |
| Amen. | |
| Right? | |
| So this country was founded on that's crazy. | |
| No, that's God. | |
| It really was. | |
| Yeah, that's true. | |
| Even the founding documents, those are really the crazy no, that's God moments. | |
| Sure. | |
| We conquered, overcame, did so much for really a relationship with God that couldn't be tampered with. | |
| We got to get back to that. | |
| We got to get back to that. | |
| We got to be born again. | |
| To see the kingdom, you have to be born again. | |
| That's right. | |
| know i think chapter 10 and chapter 10 should have been chapter one right which is really supernatural salvation the And that's chapter 10 of your brother. | |
| That's chapter 10. | |
| That's crazy. | |
| No, that's God. | |
| That's crazy. | |
| Yeah, when salvation is the thing, right? | |
| Like, that's really the miracle, right? | |
| That you got saved. | |
| Everything else comes after that. | |
| So I think we're trying to build not on the cornerstone of Jesus. | |
| And there's a lot of people that aren't even saved or carnal Christians. | |
| But overall, you won't understand. | |
| It says you can't see the kingdom unless you're born again. | |
| So how, if we're supposed to see what God is doing or how to move, then we have to be born again. | |
| So in order for America, this country to do excel, do above and beyond more than they could hope, think, or imagine, we would have to get back to being born again so that we could see the kingdom first. | |
| And then everything else will come under. | |
| Amen. | |
| If we see America born again, that'll be another, that's crazy, no, that's God moment. | |
| But I believe that is a very possible thing. | |
| You wrote this book. | |
| That's crazy. | |
| No, that's God, where the supernatural becomes your reality. | |
| This is book number three for you. | |
| Tell us why you wrote this book and where the title came from. | |
| Man, you know, I think I said in the show earlier, like, I would always go around and just kind of every time God did something, you know, and he did so many things, right? | |
| God fully restored our family, brought all my kids back. | |
| Like, God restored my relationship with my dad, like all of these things. | |
| I would always be like, man, that's crazy. | |
| Or when I was sharing with someone something that God did, as you will see, there are tons of stories. | |
| There's biblical, and then there's the story on what verse was applied, and you'll see it in the book. | |
| And not knowing the outcome, I would just listen to God, right? | |
| Like, it's like, you know, you ask a room, hey, how many of y'all, when you got upset with somebody, you kind of saw him as an enemy, how many of you prayed first? | |
| And usually there's two people out of a hundred, right? | |
| But the reality is, if you're a walking believer, then your job is to pray first for your enemy before you do anything else. | |
| It says, pray for your enemies, right? | |
| Love those who don't love you. | |
| Like, there's all these verses. | |
| It's that we are letting emotions lead us. | |
| So in this book, everything in my life, I attribute, I was telling to you, telling you on the break that everything, it's hard for me to like articulate when you ask me, hey, what moment? | |
| Because I'm like, everything, everything, every almost picture that we've bought was because God told us to, that led to something else. | |
| Going to talk to somebody that led to something else. | |
| Meeting you guys, you know, I didn't know that that night out with Jesus would be televised. | |
| Now the planet knows about it, right? | |
| Where something that me and Ruthie just did because we felt like the Lord was doing. | |
| Do you understand? | |
| So this book comes out of like, hey, God's going to take care of the outcome. | |
| The that's God part. | |
| Stop chasing the that's crazy. | |
| Do the little things well that the word is telling you to do. | |
| Being empowered by the spirit and everything else almost kind of works itself out. | |
| Yes. | |
| His timing is perfect. | |
| It's funny that we say that God is perfect. | |
| You're not going to follow that's crazy man that's God. | |
| We're chasing the that's crazy. | |
| We're not chasing the that's God. | |
| The book comes out in the title because that's my whole entire life. | |
| And every time something happens, I'm reminded that that's God because it's by his grace. | |
| It's by his instruction that the Bible says it's perfect. | |
| We usually go to God after, not before. | |
| Why? | |
| If he's perfect, if his instruction is perfect, if you had a best friend who was perfect in his instruction, wouldn't you go to him first? | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Yeah. | |
| What were you going to say? | |
| When I hear you talk like this, I think about what you write in your book. | |
| God's plans always defies human logic. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Let's talk about that because I think it's in the waiting period that we lose faith that God can do it for us. | |
| Sure. | |
| It's in the waiting, right? | |
| One of the dangerous things that God does throughout his word is show you something and then makes you wait. | |
| You do an amazing job detailing the difference between God's plan and defying human logic. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So, you know, we're all born into the world, so we all gain worldly view. | |
| That is what it is. | |
| You know, most of your life, you're around, you got television. | |
| This is why I'm grateful for this television show. | |
| I am so grateful because you guys are constantly putting out content that is helping people renew their mind and actually see from God's perspective. | |
| But that is not in our, you know, you get a whole new nature when you're born again. | |
| That's right. | |
| That you're constantly renewing your mind. | |
| When God tells you to do something, like praying for your enemy makes no sense because the first thing you want to do is get revenge. | |
| Building a boat when you've never seen rain. | |
| That's good. | |
| This doesn't make any sense because you've never seen it. | |
| So when God wants to get you out of anger, he tells you to build things and do things that you've never seen before. | |
| That's where the trusting comes in. | |
| We lean a lot to what we understand, but we can't lean to what we understand because what we understand will always get you what you've always gotten. | |
| And so we say all these sayings. | |
| You know, I was sharing this morning, I think, with staff and stuff, and we were talking about pretty much a lot of these things in different ways. | |
| And it's like God's ways are way higher. | |
| Like, it says, I want you to think about something. | |
| It says that his ways are higher than our ways, and his thoughts are higher than our thoughts. | |
| And they're immeasurable. | |
| It says as from the heavens are to the earth. | |
| So think about that. | |
| When you go outside today and you look at the sky, okay, so you look at the sky, and that's pretty far. | |
| And then you look at the sun, you know, you're like, well, that's pretty far. | |
| And if you start thinking galaxies, so his ways, your smartness, and how he sees things is from the heavens. | |
| So think Pluto, and then all of a sudden, you feel real small and stupid. | |
| And if I don't know about you, but that's kind of how I feel, right? | |
| I'm like, man, I'm that little. | |
| His ways are that higher. | |
| Then who am I to question what he says? | |
| Your first natural instinct is to think worldly. | |
| His is to think heavenly. | |
| So it almost has to take a denying of yourself, crucifying your flesh to your way, so that you can follow him in his way. | |
| I think he says he is the way. | |
| And I think that's the importance of it all. | |
| Because if we try to do Jesus without Jesus, that would make no work. | |
| That just wouldn't work. | |
| So we'd rather come with a worldview into churches and into places. | |
| And we want to do things. | |
| This is what has happened. | |
| Success has been, has, you know, it used to be faithfulness and obedience. | |
| Success. | |
| Listen, if we're looking at Noah and he's building a boat for 120 years, come on, guys, let's be real. | |
| You're his friends. | |
| He's telling you, God is telling me to build this. | |
| Nowadays, three months, and they're like, you're crazy. | |
| Right back then, maybe, you know, maybe it lasts about three years. | |
| And they're like, bro, what are you doing? | |
| They're building that boat. | |
| He's like, rain's coming. | |
| God's plan, we would have told him, matter of fact, it's like, hey, listen, you ain't got nobody saved yet. | |
| You've been preaching the same message. | |
| In a church service, that would be, yeah, you're probably not good at it. | |
| But in God's perfect plan, there was obedience and faithfulness. | |
| Wow. | |
| Success. | |
| Imagine 50 years later, bro, you're still building that boat. | |
| You're out of your mind. | |
| That's crazy. | |
| He can't say that's God yet. | |
| Think about it because you want to say that's God. | |
| That's after it happens. | |
| Yes. | |
| But in about year 70, they're still calling you crazy. | |
| Inside, you're going, no, it's God. | |
| You're probably losing a little bit of the, right? | |
| Nobody saved yet. | |
| The only people helping you are your family members. | |
| In God's perfect plan, he already knew what he was going to do. | |
| The doors were going to close and he was going to wipe out the earth. | |
| We would have told him, man, that sermon you got, you might have to tweak it. | |
| Right? | |
| Because I mean, nobody's getting saved. | |
| Nobody's doing anything. | |
| And all of a sudden, it starts raining. | |
| Everybody now knows that what he was saying was God. | |
| Everybody wants to get on the boat, but the boat closes too late. | |
| And I'm thinking he gets when they go, you that whole bats crazy that he's been hearing for about 119 years, you know, almost on the last day to the minute. | |
| And when the rain hits, he goes, no, that's God. | |
| That's God. | |
| And sometimes we have to think that in the middle, every promise starts off with you getting out of Egypt and then a wilderness season, every single promise. | |
| In the wilderness season, you actually see who you are. | |
| You either have unbelief or you have belief. | |
| That's right. | |
| Unbelief will never get you into the promise. | |
| That's right. | |
| If you could deal with the sin of unbelief, it takes care of a lot of things. | |
| Everything starts with unbelief. | |
| So once you start believing, it kind of starts going into every other area of your life. | |
| So you take a guy like me who's thought a certain way most of his life in everything. | |
| I had to change every single way of me doing things. | |
| And I had to be okay with my way doesn't work. | |
| I had to learn what a friend was. | |
| I had to learn what a husband is. | |
| I had to learn what a father is. | |
| I had to learn through the word. | |
| Everything. | |
| My best idea got me in trouble. | |
| I'm telling you, your best idea. | |
| You ever had like a really good idea on a Friday? | |
| And by Saturday, you're thinking, that was the dumbest thing. | |
| That's crazy. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And you didn't even know. | |
| That's crazy. | |
| That's not God. | |
| That's not God. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That's crazy. | |
| And so I don't think we go to him to ask. | |
| We start getting like we know stuff and we go off of our logic and our reasoning. | |
| And God's like, that's not the way I want to do it. | |
| I want you to build a boat. | |
| I want you to walk on water. | |
| I want you to do there's so many stories. | |
| I want you to go to a place that you know nothing of. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Abraham. | |
| And when you get there, I'll show you. | |
| Well, then I'll show you. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But we just in that alone, people don't live like that, right? | |
| They're like, God, so you want me to go where? | |
| Okay, let me know. | |
| What am I going to need? | |
| What's it going to look like tomorrow? | |
| Is there going to be food, right? | |
| Imagine you went to your wife and you're like, we're moving tomorrow. | |
| She's like, where? | |
| You go, I don't know. | |
| We don't live like that today. | |
| We want all the details because we want to control the outcome. | |
| But with God, it's more about you being faithful and obedient and him maturing you than it is you becoming successful. | |
| And that's creeped into the body of Christ today. | |
| We look at success the way the world does. | |
| But what you think, oh man, I failed. | |
| God's like, no, you didn't fail. | |
| You listened to me. | |
| This was for you. | |
| You needed this. | |
| Wow. | |
| We don't look at it like that because we only look at it. | |
| It has to match this. | |
| The numbers have to be right. | |
| This has to look right. | |
| Think about that. | |
| How many people have said, well, I failed. | |
| And they're following the plan of God, but they think, oh, no, I failed. | |
| I failed. | |
| I mean, think about how many people are, they're still walking the path. | |
| It's really, truly not failing. | |
| The human logic, right? | |
| The human logic. | |
| I remember when we were in Florida, this whole ministry, we were in Florida, and your friend, your pastor, or father, Jim Baker, got a word from God that we're moving to Branson. | |
| Yeah. | |
| We're like, we're moving where? | |
| Well, what's there? | |
| What are we going to do there? | |
| I don't know. | |
| God is moving us there. | |
| Pack up the kids, pack up the ministry and go and get trucks. | |
| And we're moving there, not knowing where we were headed. | |
| 20-some years later, this television is all over the world. | |
| We came to do what God set out to do without even knowing. | |
| It was that first drop of water when Pastor Jim, your friend, said, now that's a God moment. | |
| We didn't know where we were going. | |
| Now that a lot of people jump ship, absolutely. | |
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Start Bible, Start Faith
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| People thought we were crazy. | |
| Jim, what are you doing? | |
| Why are you taking the kids over there? | |
| Where are you taking the wife? | |
| Even the wife was saying, Jim, where are you taking us? | |
| What is Branson? | |
| What is Branson? | |
| Where are we going? | |
| And I want to tell you something. | |
| When you stay faithful to the word of God, the word that God gives you for your family, for your ministry, for your life, for a nation, you don't depart from it. | |
| If you start getting discouraged, I want you to do this. | |
| Go to Matthew chapter 6, verse 6, and get alone with God. | |
| Why? | |
| Because it's in that private moment where you hear from the Father. | |
| Don't go and get advice from your friend that heard it from another friend, or I'm going to go to this church to another church. | |
| No, the Bible says in Matthew chapter 6, verse 6, get alone with him. | |
| Get alone with your father. | |
| Pastor, you write in this book about steps on how to build our faith when it makes no sense. | |
| Listen, what you need to do is get this book. | |
| I'm glad you brought me a book. | |
| Come on. | |
| Because I was going to take Ricky's book, by the way, by faith, and send it back to him after I read it. | |
| But I want this because it makes me realize: don't you dare move from where God has called you. | |
| That's right. | |
| Pastor, don't walk away from pastoring. | |
| Sister, don't walk away from your marriage. | |
| Sir, don't get that gun and blow your head off. | |
| God is on the move. | |
| Listen, when human logic doesn't make sense, God is working on your behalf behind the scenes. | |
| If you only knew between you and heaven, everything that he has to go through to get to you, it will dismantle you. | |
| But you know what? | |
| Having little things like this, like the book, that's crazy. | |
| No, that's God when the supernatural becomes your reality. | |
| Order the book today. | |
| 1-888-988-1588. | |
| Or better yet, you can go to the website, jimbakershow.com and visit the affiliate page there of Charisma House. | |
| And I always challenge you by saying this: don't get one copy, get a Baker's dozen and pass them out to people, right, Ricky? | |
| And be able to do a God moment. | |
| Tell you, this is an evangelistic tool. | |
| Giving this to somebody, letting them allow this to read it, realize, oh, all these moments that I thought were crazy in my life is actually God showing up. | |
| Yeah. | |
| It's actually God's provision. | |
| It was God's faithfulness. | |
| It was God honoring my family. | |
| It was God honoring me taking a step of faith. | |
| So they can stop saying, hey, that's crazy. | |
| They can start saying, no, that's God. | |
| No, that's God. | |
| Yeah, I think it's important. | |
| I think it's really important to really walk. | |
| You know, as I said earlier, God isn't cookie cutter. | |
| So, you know, it's interesting because you get called and you have a calling in your life and you can teach people like, hey, you know, I want to write a book. | |
| And you're like, okay. | |
| But it doesn't mean if God is not telling you to do something the way, you know, there wasn't like 40 Noah's building boats. | |
| You know, everybody did it a different way. | |
| Abraham went somewhere he didn't know. | |
| He's building a boat. | |
| You know, Peter walked on water. | |
| There's all these different Esther has to go see a king, right? | |
| Like all of these things. | |
| The way he is, the principles of the word, right? | |
| Because faith glorifies God. | |
| Foolishness usually glorifies self. | |
| And the reality is that a lot of times we do things based on self and then put in Jesus' name. | |
| We will give a check that Jesus never signed. | |
| And so the reality is that God, this is the importance of you having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, developing an intimate relationship with Jesus Christ. | |
| Because most, when people ask me about the church plant, I didn't plant the church with like the way most people do it. | |
| I'm not saying it's wrong. | |
| I'm just saying for me, all I wanted to do was start a Bible study, a Bible study. | |
| There was about eight people. | |
| God told me to move to a place. | |
| So this story is in the book as well. | |
| So we're living in a bad area called Greenspoint. | |
| Me and my wife, I have a translating job where I'm translating for a pastor in Spanish, where later I would become the Spanish guy, right? | |
| And God had a plan there. | |
| And pretty much we're like paying, I want to move somewhere because God's telling us to move. | |
| Okay. | |
| So I need you to think about this. | |
| God's telling us to move. | |
| This place is $200 more. | |
| The name of the place is Mansions at Turkey Creek. | |
| We're drive by the place. | |
| I go, this is where we're moving. | |
| Now, Ruthie starts her walk. | |
| You know, I'm starting my faith walk like in real terms, right? | |
| I'm out of prison. | |
| And she's like, okay, so I go, I want to start a Bible study. | |
| And I felt like the Lord was like, I prepared a mansion for you. | |
| Now, this is going to sound weird to some people. | |
| To me, I heard in my spirit, I read Mansions at Turkey Creek. | |
| He said, I prepared a mansion for you. | |
| I said, this is the place. | |
| Out of, you know, in my spirit, man. | |
| So I go in, I talk to the lady, I walk in. | |
| You know, we say that we're going to get an apartment. | |
| The lady asks us if we're married. | |
| I kind of walk out. | |
| I feel bad because the lady thought we were shacking, you know, and I had told her that we were a pastor. | |
| Now, this is a true story. | |
| I go, I can't do that. | |
| The spirit of God tells me, go back in there and tell her what's going on. | |
| So I go by, I blow by the lady. | |
| I talk to the manager and I go, look, you know, I'm an ex-felon. | |
| You know, I promise that this community is going to be better with me in it. | |
| I start telling her my story. | |
| She starts crying. | |
| Before you know it, I'm ministering to this lady. | |
| I'm ministering to the lady. | |
| The lady, that other lady who never, she's been, you know, nothing against my Catholic brothers, but she's a Catholic lady. | |
| And so she's like, weirded out a little, but she's like, I want it more. | |
| She actually is the one. | |
| God uses this guy to tell me, why don't you start a Bible study? | |
| She's in my church today. | |
| She says, why don't you start a Bible study? | |
| These people don't know that I want to start a Bible study. | |
| She's telling me, it's like God opens the door. | |
| So before you know it, we start a Bible study. | |
| Boom. | |
| Get wrapped church gives birth. | |
| We take over the community. | |
| We become the hands and feet of Jesus in that community. | |
| I don't know how to plant a church. | |
| I wind up calling a guy and I go, bro, there's a hundred people here. | |
| I think we have a church. | |
| I think I'm a pastor. | |
| I think I'm a pastor. | |
| That's kind of what happens. | |
| Now I'm here. | |
| I'm prepping, but I don't have the church plant schematics. | |
| And this is what you do. | |
| I just got a Bible, the Holy Spirit, and a few people, crazy people, who are willing to believe crazy things about the Lord. | |
| Wow. | |
| And so, and they're still there. | |
| Those same people. | |
| I actually marry that lady Saturday, you know, next week. | |
| Wow. | |
| So that's crazy. | |
| Amen. | |
| So, you know, you hear those things and you think like, oh no, that became, it was just being obedient. | |
| When I get in the car with my wife and I say, we're moving, she's like, so what you, oh, because I had to leave my little translating job to start the Bible study, right? | |
| And she goes, so what you do, what you're saying to me is you're going to, we're $200 more. | |
| We're barely making it. | |
| And you're going to leave the job that's paying you the 300 bucks. | |
| And I go, yeah, it's exactly what I'm saying with a big smile. | |
| Right. | |
| And in her mind, she goes, okay. | |
| You know, but we do it in faith and we wind up where we are today. | |
| Imagine we did not do that because we would have been like, most of my friends are like, yo, bro, you're making $300. | |
| Like, now you're not going to make any money. | |
| The logic in that would have said, no, you need to go do this. | |
| But God was telling me to do that. | |
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Night Out With Jesus
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| Amen. | |
| And so I was just listening to God. | |
| This is what was birthed out of it. | |
| Friends, I wanted to watch something that this church is doing, Get Wrapped. | |
| They started this and now it is a movement that is taking over the nation. | |
| believe we will see this time next year, hundreds of churches doing what you're about to see right now. | |
| Something's happening across the streets of America. | |
| It's not a program. | |
| It's not a strategy. | |
| It's not a campaign. | |
| It's a movement because love has officially broke out of the building. | |
| Love is actually on the loose. | |
| We call it night out with Jesus. | |
| It's not about a title or church name. | |
| It's about people who believe that Jesus still walks the streets, still heals the broken, still feeds the hungry, and still finds the one who's lost at the gas pump, in the grocery store, or sitting on the sidewalk. | |
| Everywhere we go, miracles happen. | |
| Say it with me. | |
| That's crazy. | |
| No, that's God. | |
| The kingdom of God isn't stuck inside the four walls of a church. | |
| It's breaking out into the neighborhood. | |
| Parking lots, pizza shops, and street points. | |
| Groceries are being paid for. | |
| Tears are turning into joy. | |
| Addictions are losing their grip. | |
| The lonely feel seen at the gospel. | |
| The good news comes alive in real time. | |
| This is what we like to call revival with sneakers on. | |
| Wherever we go, he goes before us. | |
| Jesus didn't just teach in the synagogues. | |
| He sat with the outcast. | |
| This is the move. | |
| This is the moment. | |
| This is your invitation to come out with us. | |
| To step into the story that God is writing. | |
| Be the hands. | |
| Be the feet. | |
| Be the light. | |
| This is night out with Jesus. | |
| The streets will never be the same. | |
| Friends, I encourage you, go to the website, nightoutwithjesus.org. | |
| That is the initials, nightoutwithjesus.org. | |
| You want to go check this out. | |
| It was on the screen there. | |
| It's n owj.org. | |
| We're going to put it up on the screen for you. | |
| This is an incredible thing. | |
| Get involved. | |
| If you're a pastor, hey, let's just throw this out there. | |
| If there's a pastor watching this right now, an elder, deacon of the church, and they're saying, you know what? | |
| I want to do something like this in my area. | |
| How can they get in touch with you? | |
| Because there's a little bit of training that gets involved with this. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| We provide all the training. | |
| We do all these things because evangelism is a big deal, right? | |
| We're going to be talking about it. | |
| You remember the first time I was on the call with you? | |
| Do you remember what I was doing? | |
| My screen was black. | |
| And he's like, all the pastors are sitting there. | |
| They look nice. | |
| You know, he goes, Ricky, what are you doing? | |
| What are you doing? | |
| I unmuted myself for just a quick second. | |
| I was bathing the kids. | |
| He was like, bad. | |
| Wow. | |
| He's like, look, the glory's here. | |
| He said, can you pray right now? | |
| I said, give me a second, please. | |
| It's kind of dope. | |
| I mean, because think about it, he didn't make the excuse. | |
| He was still there. | |
| He just didn't want to show us that he was doing all the things that he was doing. | |
| Like, he was multitasking. | |
| And he prayed. | |
| And he prayed. | |
| He's like, give me a minute. | |
| Now, a pastor out there has no excuse. | |
| If they want to come and talk to you, be a part of the train. | |
| How do they do it? | |
| Well, they would go to that website, the nightoutwithjesus website.org, and pretty much they could fill something out. | |
| We would get in contact with them or they could do info at walmartinez.tv as well. | |
| Send me an email. | |
| We would get them on some calls. | |
| We would train them. | |
| We sometimes go out with a team and train churches if they really like never done it. | |
| That's awesome. | |
| We just believe that that should be the norm. | |
| You know, it gives us the space for evangelism, right? | |
| When we go out, most people, when I talk to, they go, I go, hey, they've been to church 10 years and I go, hey, pray for them. | |
| And they don't know how to walk up to a person. | |
| So then I started thinking, well, then maybe they're not doing that at their jobs. | |
| Right? | |
| Because you're with some people that we all do this, right? | |
| That's right. | |
| So it became for us an evangelism training tool to have a church and not be involved in your community and in your neighbor's life. | |
| I mean, why have a church? | |
| That's right. | |
| Right. | |
| We got to find something else to do. | |
| I say it often to our church. | |
| You know, if we can't lift our hands, praise the Lord, worship here with people who agree with us. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Then we'll never do it in front of people who disagree with us. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| So we got to get the boldness. | |
| Do it in front of your brothers and sisters and get out and show the world. | |
| They'll know you're my disciples by what? | |
| By the way you love. | |
| By the way you love each other. | |
| And friends, by the way you love those who may not love you back, by the way that you love those who are hurting and are in a different social status than you are. | |
| I think it's very important that you get out and do your own night out with Jesus. | |
| Get partnered up with Get Rap Church and what they're doing. | |
| It's Night Out with Jesus. | |
| We're going to put the website up on the screen. | |
| I encourage you to go fill this out. | |
| Pastor, if you're watching the church or friends, if you know the pastor of your church, call him up and say, Pastor, we need to get out and do something like this in our area. | |
| I believe there's no reason that this time next year, every single state should have a night out with Jesus. | |
| Every single major city. | |
| I mean, we're out here and we're in Blue Eye, Missouri. | |
| If you're saying, well, my town's too small, I have no excuse. | |
| We got a population of 136 people. | |
| You know, thank you. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Thank you for joining us, man. | |
| You know, I really appreciate that you didn't have that excuse. | |
| You were like, hey, we're going to figure this out. | |
| And yesterday you were trying to figure everything out and how you were going to do it in Blue Eye. | |
| Amen. | |
| And I thank you. | |
| I believe it's a prophetic word where there's going to be tons of people joining. | |
| We'll start it with two people. | |
| God is moving through a foolish thing of this world. | |
| Amen. | |
| You and your wonderful wife, I want to say thank you to Miss Ruthie for being here with us. | |
| Incredible woman. | |
| I always say behind every strong man, there's probably a woman who's telling him to be better. | |
| But friends, if you're watching this, I want to encourage you to go to our website. | |
| It's jimbakershow.com or go to ptl.tv. | |
| Call our number. | |
| It's 1-888-988-1588 and get this book. | |
| That's crazy. | |
| No, that's God. | |
| Where the supernatural becomes your reality by Pastor Juan Martinez, Get Rap Church in Spring, Texas. | |
| Go and look at all he's doing. | |
| Support his ministry. | |
| Support what he's up to. | |
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| Remember this: God loves you. | |
| He really does. | |
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