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| Welcome to the Jim Baker Family Show. | |
| Today, our special guest is Daniel Colenda. | |
| Our co-hosts today are Pastor Ricky Baker and Reverend Mondo de La Veda. | |
| And now, here's your host, Pastor Jim Baker. | |
| We're thrilled to have Daniel Calenda with us today, live, all the way from his home in what state? | |
| Florida. | |
| Yeah, that's right. | |
| I don't want to oust him where he's at. | |
| He's live from his home. | |
| That's all we'll say. | |
| Daniel, are you there? | |
| I'm here. | |
| Great to see you guys. | |
| Hello. | |
| I know your family for way back. | |
| My grandmother and everybody knew your family very well. | |
| Yeah, the singing calendas and all that. | |
| Yes. | |
| Very famous that grew up in Michigan, I believe. | |
| Is that right? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah, that's right. | |
| And you are taking over Reinhardt Bonke's ministry. | |
| Is that correct? | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| I've actually been leading his ministry for the past 15 years. | |
| Where are you traveling now? | |
| What's going on in your life? | |
| Well, our next crusade is in Thailand. | |
| And we're expecting to have, it's going to be our very first as a ministry gospel crusade in Thailand. | |
| And we're expecting it to be the largest crusade that has ever taken place in that nation. | |
| And we're hoping to see a revival spread across the, not just Thailand, but Asia. | |
| And so, and also, of course, Africa is our main place. | |
| And so we're constantly, you know, month after month going back to Africa for these big mass gospel crusades. | |
| The work continues and rolls on. | |
| I want to hear your opinion of what's going on in the world today. | |
| Yeah, well, I mean, it's a pretty interesting couple weeks that we've had here, isn't it? | |
| Obviously, everybody knows that, you know, Charlie Kirk was assassinated in front of the whole nation. | |
| I mean, I can't think of anything like it in my lifetime, seeing in high definition someone murdered right before our eyes. | |
| And I really, you know, I get some heat for this, but I really feel like Charlie Kirk was more than just, you know, an assassination victim or a murder victim. | |
| I believe he was a martyr. | |
| I believe that he was killed for his bold proclamation of the gospel. | |
| And now that this has happened, I think, you know, just like it says in the book of John, Jesus said that unless a kernel of wheat fall to the earth and die, it abides alone. | |
| But if it dies, it brings forth much fruit. | |
| And I think what we're going to see in this next season is a whole crop of young people, especially the Gen Z, the young, you know, even the college-age kids, ones stepping up and being bold and fearless in their faith, proclaiming the gospel. | |
| And I believe we're getting ready for a revival in America. | |
| Amen. | |
| Do you believe we're living in the end times? | |
| I do. | |
| I mean, obviously, that's probably been what every generation since Jesus has felt. | |
| But I do feel like there's some things right now that we've probably never seen before. | |
| And just point by point, if you look at the signs of the times that Jesus gave that would be indicative of his return, I think we see them happening at a rate that's never happened before. | |
| What inspired you to write the book Furious? | |
| Yeah, well, you know, it's interesting the timing of this because it came out right around that same time when Charlie Kirk was assassinated. | |
| Of course, I had no idea that that was going to happen, but it's amazing how relevant this is for this moment. | |
| I was actually, you know, I'm a pastor in addition to the evangelistic ministry. | |
| And in my church, I was preaching through the book of Galatians expositorily verse by verse. | |
| When I got to the end, I'd had people coming up to me the whole time saying that the message of Galatians was just changing their lives. | |
| And so I thought, you know, when I got finished, I thought, I'm going to just put this together in a little commentary to give to my congregation. | |
| And as I was writing it, I felt this frustration in my heart. | |
| I think it was from the Holy Spirit because, you know, the book of Galatians is such an amazing book. | |
| There's so much drama and so much backstory. | |
| The Apostle Paul is furiously, that's where the title comes from, furiously defending the gospel against people that are trying to pervert it and twist it and lead these new Gentile believers away from the truth and the simplicity of Christ. | |
| And so with all of the story and all the drama and all the interesting details, a commentary just felt too boring. | |
| And so I was thinking, Lord, How do I communicate this in such a way that people will really understand? | |
| And then it was like I saw it play out in front of my eyes like a movie. | |
| And I saw the Apostle Paul there talking to his scribe because, you know, Galatians was dictated by Paul to a scribe who transcribed and wrote down his words. | |
| And it was like I could see that conversation going on. | |
| And Paul telling the backstory of how he got saved and how the gospel came to the Gentiles and about his confrontation with Peter that we read about in the book of Galatians. | |
| And so I began to write it not as an expository commentary or something, but actually as a narrative, as a novel. | |
| And so that's what it became. | |
| This book is actually a novel, but it's Paul going through, dictating the book of Galatians verse by verse, interacting with his scribe, telling him all the stories in dramatic fashion. | |
| And the idea is that by the time you get to the end of this book, not only have you read the whole book of Galatians without even realizing it, but you've also effortlessly absorbed the backstory and the logic and the person of Paul. | |
| You get to know Paul like, you know, like we know our characters in our favorite movies, like a person that you're friends with. | |
| In fact, I've had people say when they get to the end and they finish reading the book, they feel sad because it's like they're having to say goodbye to a friend. | |
| So I really believe that this book is not just going to help people understand Galatians, but it's going to help them understand the Apostle Paul and the gospel itself at a totally new level. | |
| What challenges do you see Paul facing in spreading the gospel during his time? | |
| Well, I mean, there were so many. | |
| In the book of Galatians, he's dealing with a group of people that were called the Judaizers. | |
| And these were some Jews from Jerusalem. | |
| They believed in Jesus, but they still also believed that these Gentiles had to follow the law of Moses to be saved. | |
| So they were adding. | |
| It wasn't that they were taking away. | |
| They weren't saying, you know, following Christ is not good. | |
| They weren't, you know, telling people that Jesus was not the Messiah. | |
| They believed all those things, but they also believed that something had to be added to the finished work of Christ in order to be accepted as full-blown sons and daughters of God. | |
| And this is what Paul is fighting against. | |
| And he tells them, he says, that we did not give an inch. | |
| We did not back down from these Judaizers because we wanted to preserve the truth of the gospel message for you. | |
| And I think that when he says for you, obviously he's talking to the Galatians, but he's talking to all of us. | |
| Here we are now, 2,000 years later, and we are still reading this letter and we're still learning and being reoriented and calibrated back to the centrality of the cross and the blood and the sufficiency of the work that Christ did on the cross. | |
| It is the purest gospel sort of proclamation, I think, in all the scriptures, certainly the most dramatic. | |
| And the issues that Paul was dealing with all those years ago, they've not changed. | |
| I mean, they may look a little bit different today than they did back then, but we still have, I think, in the church, one of the greatest challenges that we have is, number one, legalism, that there's always this subtle, insidious, persistent temptation to add something. | |
| Maybe it's our own efforts, our own works. | |
| You know, it's a Christian who doesn't, maybe he hasn't prayed enough and so he feels unworthy. | |
| Maybe he feels he needs to do something. | |
| He needs to work to earn God's favor and God's love as if he could make God love or accept him more. | |
| And the other one that's a really relevant big thing, like I said, in light of what's just happened the last few weeks, is that there is this constant pressure to bow to the pressures from the world to be quiet about truth, to find the comfortable road. | |
| Paul was taking a stand that ultimately, you know, he gave his life for this message. | |
| He was willing to stand there in the face of Jews, Gentiles, the Romans, the, you know, the synagogue, whatever it was, and proclaim fearlessly the truth of the gospel. | |
| And that is something that we all need today: that boldness and fearlessness to stand for truth, no matter what the cost. | |
| You call Paul the fighter of the faith. | |
| Can you talk about that a little bit more? | |
| Yeah, I mean, it's what I'm describing. | |
| Paul, he really was standing up to what he saw is not just a little doctrinal error, but he saw it as a corruption of the gospel message, a perversion, really, that he knew. | |
| Like he talked about the way that a little bit of yeast, it's the same message that Jesus said when he said, a little bit of yeast works its way through the whole lump, through the whole loaf of dough. | |
| Anybody that's that's worked with leavened bread, you know how that works. | |
| The yeast permeates the whole thing. | |
| Jesus said that's how the kingdom of God would be, that it would start out small and it would grow. | |
| But he also pointed to the false teaching of the Pharisees as yeast. | |
| This is what Paul is comparing the Judaizers teaching to as well, because I think what Paul understood is if this error was allowed to persist, then it would be a matter of time before the thing crept into the entire body of Christ. | |
| And even down to our present day, I think we would still have this false doctrine in the church. | |
| So I'm so thankful that Paul had the courage and the wisdom and the insight to write this letter that is still speaking to us volumes today. | |
| And he's still fighting for us through the book of Galatians to this day. | |
| Wow. | |
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| Pastor, I love the fact that you begin teaching Galatians word for word. | |
| That is very rare. | |
| The title of the book is Furious, a modern retelling of Paul's fight for the gospel. | |
| You can go to the website, jimbakershow.com and visit the affiliate page and order this book because I want to tell you something. | |
| We got to get back to understanding the Bible, that the simplicity of the word, listen, can still change lives. | |
| This is amazing that your book has come out for this time, this season right now, where everyone is calling to stand up for the gospel. | |
| Can I ask you this, Pastor, because I believe that there's a transition happening with the church right now where people are hungry for miracles, signs, and wonders, but they're hungry for the word. | |
| If there's a pastor watching right now that feels frustrated, they feel stuck, what message will you give a pastor, an evangelist, a teacher right now to encourage them? | |
| Well, you know, I had a great privilege in my life that I got to be with Evangelist Bonke for, you know, the last nearly 20 years of his life. | |
| And it would have been one thing to be there with him in the beginning. | |
| And I'm sure in those days he had more energy and there was certainly there would have been advantages to that. | |
| But what I got to see was the way that it works if you consistently over a lifetime, just preach the simplicity of the gospel and just don't deviate from that message and don't get off, don't get off track, don't get off course. | |
| And everywhere that we would go, whether it would be in an airport, maybe it was walking through the grocery store, whatever it was, it was just constant that people would be coming up to him saying, I heard you preach in such and such a city in 1987. | |
| I heard you preach in 1995. | |
| And I was lost and I was on drugs and whatever it was. | |
| And I gave my life to Jesus. | |
| Now I'm a pastor. | |
| This is my family. | |
| We all serve the Lord. | |
| And I got to see how this, you know, in the moment, as we're proclaiming the gospel, as we're proclaiming the word of God and the truth of the scriptures, sometimes it can feel a little bit boring. | |
| Sometimes people are looking for a different message. | |
| They think they've got to find some new kind of a thing that's going to be more interesting. | |
| But what I saw was that if you will just consistently and faithfully teach the word, preach the gospel, proclaim truth over time. | |
| It's the greatest life that you could have because those seeds, it's not something that comes and goes. | |
| All these different messages, all the different things that are floating around, the philosophies of the world, they come, they go, they're fads. | |
| They're in today and out tomorrow. | |
| But God's word, you know, it says that the grass, the flowers, they fade, but the word of God will last forever. | |
| So preachers, if you're feeling frustrated in your faithful preaching of the word, be encouraged with this, that not one word of what you're saying is going to go to the ground. | |
| The Holy Spirit is working with you to transform people's lives. | |
| There is more fruit and there is more results than you may even be aware of because it's not, we're not doing this on our own. | |
| We are partnering with the Holy Spirit. | |
| It's God that convicts the world of sin, of righteousness, of judgment. | |
| And as we are faithful to proclaim that word, he takes those words and he transforms people's lives with it. | |
| So keep going, keep preaching, keep being faithful, keep proclaiming truth, no matter what the cost. | |
| And I promise in the end, it will be worth the while. | |
| We'll be right back after this special message. | |
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| And now, back to the show. | |
| I think we need to get closer to renewing our faith firmly in Jesus Christ. | |
| What do you feel? | |
| Yeah, I mean, again, there is this temptation for all kinds of things to be added. | |
| This is the original. | |
| This is the original temptation, you know, that Paul is addressing there in the very first century. | |
| It's still the thing that is happening today. | |
| You know, when it comes to the issue of legalism, one of the reasons, again, that I felt a burden to write this is I've seen this happen in my own friend circle. | |
| I had a friend who was, you know, he was starting to get really interested in the Torah and, you know, Old Testament stuff, which is good. | |
| We love the Old Testament. | |
| It's the Bible. | |
| It's the inspired word of God. | |
| Nothing wrong with it. | |
| But then I noticed that he started wanting more and more to add these things that he was finding in the law of Moses to his own life. | |
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| And in the beginning, it seemed very innocent until one day I pulled up to his house and he came out wearing a black coat and a black hat and he'd grown his beard out and he had curly sideburns. | |
| And he was literally trying to live as an Orthodox Jew, as a Gentile. | |
| He was trying to live as an Orthodox Jew because he thought that in some way this brought him closer to God. | |
| Some way it gained him favor with God. | |
| And not, we don't all have the same issue to that extent, but I think that the same temptation is always there to add something, to feel like there's something we bring to the table. | |
| It's our good works. | |
| It's our efforts. | |
| It's our knowledge of scripture. | |
| It's our holiness, whatever it is. | |
| And we've failed to realize the power is in the simplest thing of all. | |
| The thing that saved us in the beginning is the thing that keeps us. | |
| By grace, you have been saved through faith. | |
| It's not of your works. | |
| No one can boast about it. | |
| You know, the book of Galatians was very influential in the Protestant Reformation. | |
| It's one of the books that set Martin Luther's bones on fire. | |
| In fact, Martin Luther said that it was as he said, it's my epistle as dear to me as my own wife. | |
| Now, I'm not sure how his wife felt about that, but you can see how passionate he was about the book of Galatians. | |
| And it's one of the things that sparked this reformation that actually helped to save the church from the direction that it was going in. | |
| But here's the thing: I believe that all of us need to have our own personal reformations because over time we tend to get off track. | |
| We verge into religion. | |
| We verge into works. | |
| We veer into trusting what we can bring to the equation. | |
| And all of us need this radical return to the simplicity of the gospel, salvation by grace through faith. | |
| This is what saved us, and this is what will keep us to the end. | |
| Amen. | |
| Amen. | |
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| Furious by Daniel Kalinda. | |
| Friends, this is going to be something that's incredible. | |
| It blends a devotional, a commentary, a novel all in one. | |
| And you know, Mondo, this is something that a reader can take. | |
| They can read through the entire book and they can have that relationship deepened with Christ through this. | |
| If I was you, I would get a baker's dozen. | |
| That's right. | |
| Pass them out. | |
| Pass them out to your small groups, Bible study, and begin to understand really the word. | |
| You know, there's a famine of the word of God, meaning that very few people are reading the word. | |
| It's amazing. | |
| You know, the reports are coming now. | |
| The studies are coming out that there's such illiteracy when it comes to the Bible in the church. | |
| And no wonder we're believing anything that we see on TikTok, that we see on Instagram, but yet the true gospel doesn't change. | |
| It has never changed. | |
| Pastor Kalinda, you brought up something that as I studied throughout the years, the book of Galatians, I want to go back with you the moment the Apostle Paul confronted Peter because we're seeing that today, where Paul and Peter are going to battle in this generation. | |
| And you see it through social media. | |
| You see people that are now having the microphone. | |
| They want to really want to destroy the gospel. | |
| They want to correct the Bible. | |
| Oh, the Bible didn't mean this. | |
| This is what it meant. | |
| And people are believing that. | |
| Let's go back to what happened between Paul and Peter and how it reflects this generation of Christians today that are going head to head once again. | |
| Well, you know, it's interesting. | |
| That story of the confrontation with Paul and Peter is one of my favorite parts of the book because it is such a visceral, exciting, dramatic moment. | |
| Imagine two of the great apostles. | |
| You know, Peter was the rock. | |
| This was the guy that was kind of the leader of the group of apostles, the head of the church in Jerusalem. | |
| And here's Paul, the guy that wrote most of our New Testament, and they're clashing in real time. | |
| What an incredible scene. | |
| But the reason that this happened, you know, Peter was the one that initially had the revelation from God that the gospel was not just for the Jew, it was also for the Gentile. | |
| That came to Peter. | |
| Peter's the one that brought that to the apostles. | |
| We read about that in the book of Acts. | |
| But what happened was Peter's now in Antioch. | |
| He's with these Gentiles. | |
| Everything's going well. | |
| And then some big shots, some heavy hitters from Jerusalem come over. | |
| And these guys, they're big shots because they're very good friends, even with like James, the Lord's brother. | |
| And so they are not on the same page. | |
| And Peter gets intimidated by them because they don't want to eat with the Gentiles. | |
| And so Peter actually leaves the table of the Gentiles. | |
| He turns his back on his friends, these new Gentile believers in Jesus, and he goes with those guys from James. | |
| And so Paul is furious about this. | |
| And he stands up in front of everybody and publicly rebukes Peter for turning his back on the Gentiles and for turning his back on the gospel itself through that action. | |
| And, you know, one of the things that's so relevant about this today is what you were talking about earlier, how people are, you know, even on everybody's got a microphone. | |
| There's this social media, internet driven, there's these kind of self-appointed theologians that they're reinterpreting the Bible to match culture. | |
| They're afraid of culture. | |
| There's certain things that if you say them out loud, you'll get canceled. | |
| You'll have your YouTube channel pulled down. | |
| You'll get flagged by the different social media companies. | |
| So people are afraid of speaking truth that will contradict culture. | |
| And there has to be a point where the people of God reacquire and recapture the courage to be able to stand up for truth and to speak out and to defend what is true and what is right. | |
| And again, Paul realized that this was important, not just for himself, not just for the Galatians, but this was important for the whole church and for all of those that would follow. | |
| And our willingness to stand for truth and to confront deception and to speak against the lies that we see in society and that we see coming through whatever screen, social media, whatever it is. | |
| That is more than just about us. | |
| It's about our children. | |
| It's about our grandchildren. | |
| It's about the future of the church. | |
| We have to be faithful and we have to take a stand, even if it costs us. | |
| Wow. | |
| The gospel of the cross is what changed my life. | |
| It's the gospel of the cross, the blood of Jesus. | |
| I love the fact that you talked about the cross, repentance, the blood of Jesus, because it still has power. | |
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| Amen. | |
| The simplicity of the message is what still works. | |
| What is the one takeaway that you hope every reader gains from reading this book? | |
| Well, one of my favorite things that Paul says is he says, if you are led by the Holy Spirit, you are not under the law of Moses. | |
| It's such an incredible thought. | |
| And it really summarizes, I think, what the whole book is about, because Paul's message here is not, oh, now you've been saved. | |
| So don't worry how you live. | |
| Just live any way that you want. | |
| You had the Judaizers on the one side saying, you know, you have to follow all these rules to the letter of the law if you want to please God. | |
| And then you had people on the other side, they were just living completely free and they were just in license and in hedonism and saying, well, we've been saved now. | |
| We can live however we want. | |
| And Paul's saying, no, both of those extremes are wrong. | |
| The key is that because of the gospel, because of what Jesus has done on the cross, the Holy Spirit now comes to live on the inside of us. | |
| And the Holy Spirit on the inside of us causes us to naturally and intuitively live lives that are pleasing to God. | |
| You know, Jesus reduced the entire law of Moses down to two commands. | |
| Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength. | |
| Love your neighbor as yourself. | |
| He says, on these two hang all the law and the prophets. | |
| In other words, if you do those two things, then you will automatically fulfill the requirements of the law. | |
| What Paul is telling us is that when the Holy Spirit is on the inside of us, he effortlessly causes us to produce the fruit of the Spirit in our lives. | |
| People love that passage about the fruit of the Spirit, love, joy, peace, long-suffering, gentleness, goodness. | |
| We all know it. | |
| But that is actually a verse, a passage from the book of Galatians in the context of people who have the Holy Spirit living on the inside of them. | |
| How does a tree produce fruit? | |
| It doesn't squeeze. | |
| It doesn't work really hard. | |
| It just stays connected to the vine. | |
| Jesus said, if you abide in me and my words and abiding you, you'll bear much fruit. | |
| Paul is saying that the Holy Spirit inside of us will cause us to bear the fruit of the Spirit and live lives that are pleasing to God from the inside out. | |
| I think this is the big takeaway of Galatians, and I think it's a revelation that will change every believer's life. | |
| It's a message of freedom. | |
| It's a message of power. | |
| It's a message of joy. | |
| And it is at its heart the message of the gospel. | |
| We're so glad to have you on the program today, Daniel. | |
| Ricky, can you say goodbye too? | |
| Absolutely. | |
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