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July 31, 2025 - Jim Bakker Show
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The Jim Bakker Show with Dave Robbins
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People Want to Know Prophecy 00:06:24
Welcome to the Jim Baker Family Show.
Our guest today is an author, end time prophecy teacher, and host of The End Time Show, Reverend Dave Robbins.
Our co-host today is Reverend Mondo de la Vega.
And now, here is your host, Pastor Ricky Baker.
Hello, friends.
You're watching the PTL Television Network.
We're excited you have tuned in with us.
Today, we have Reverend Dave Robbins.
He is the son-in-law of the late Dr. Irvin Baxter, and he's also an end times prophecy teacher and an editor of the End Time magazine.
He also hosts a show, Mondo, called The End Time Show.
I want to encourage you to go download their app.
Mondo, you can go.
It's one only source network as well.
I want to encourage you, please go download that and see all the different content they have.
I actually think I have it right here on my phone, Mondo.
Let me see if I can pull it up for you.
Only source.
Here it is.
You can go download that.
I do see a ton of incredible content from Reverend Dave Robbins.
You have Vince Steagle on there as well, Doug Norvell, as well as a couple other things, but it's a really easy-to-use app.
It's a shameless plug for him.
I love their ministry.
I love what they do.
But Dave Robbins, I want to ask you a question.
We're going to jump right into it.
Are we living in the end times?
I believe there's no doubt about that, Ricky.
And number one, thank you guys for having me on here, but there's no doubt about that.
The six main prophecies that are supposed to happen right now, world government, world religion, precursors to the mark of the beast, an Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement that starts the final seven years, and a potential for World War III.
All of these things are in the headlines every day, and all of them are supposed to be occurring just prior to the second coming of Jesus Christ.
So we're watching prophecy being fulfilled right now.
These are 2,000 to 2,500-year-old prophecies, and they prove conclusively, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that we are living in the end time.
And I'm certainly excited to be here with you guys today because there's so much to talk about, and it's very detailed.
A lot of people say, well, how in the world do you guys know this stuff?
I mean, you know, I've heard my grandma and grandpa talk about this stuff or my great-grandma.
They were talking about the end times.
Why do you guys say we're in it right now?
Well, the fact is, is a lot of them didn't understand.
The Lord, Daniel, was trying to figure all this stuff out.
Lord, tell me when this thing, when's this stuff going to happen?
When's it all going to wrap up?
And the Lord said, no, Daniel, you close up and seal the book because it's for the people of the time of the end.
So none of the apostles understood the writings of Daniel.
Daniel didn't understand much of his prophecies and visions and dreams that he was given.
However, the Lord was saying, Daniel, there's going to come a time when the people would be able to understand this.
So Ricky and Mondo, even our grandparents and great-grandparents, a lot of these things that are happening now on the earth weren't happening back then in the early 1900s and things like that.
So they couldn't, they tried to figure it out, but they couldn't.
It's not that we're any more spiritual or any smarter than they were.
It's simply because it's time.
All of these things, every prophecy that's supposed to occur just prior to the second coming of Jesus Christ has either already been fulfilled, it's being fulfilled right now, or we're watching precursors to every single one.
And so that's conclusive proof that we are living in the end time.
You know, people want to know what's happening.
That's right.
I put out a video and I texted you, Reverend, because I should have asked you for permission, but I'll ask for forgiveness.
Right.
But I put up a video on TikTok of Reverend Dave answering the question about what happened between the prophetic moment between Israel and Iran.
And within 48 hours, 76,000 views and hundreds of comments.
People want to know what's happening prophetically in the times that we're in right now.
People are so hungry to know Bible prophecy.
And you're right, Reverend.
People have talked about Bible prophecy for decades.
Yet I think we are the only generation that is experiencing, you know, prophetic events taking place all at the same time.
I mean, when you stop and look at the news, you're looking at volcanoes going off, earthquakes going on, wars, chaos.
I mean, I can go down the list, and the key is they're all happening at the same time, Ricky.
Yes.
That's the main part that suddenlies are converging all into one with the flooding and the chaos and everything that is happening.
We are what it feels like in Bible prophecy ourselves.
That's right.
Every generation has seen some prophetic signs, but I believe we are the first generation that's seen the culmination of all of these prophetic events at one time.
And Reverend Dave Robbins, what we're seeing right now across not just the nation, but the world is turmoil.
But within our own nation, we see that President Trump is facing a battle right now.
So the question is, why is President Trump's battle with the Federal Reserve Bank prophetic?
Sure.
Well, so one of the prophecies we're talking about here that lets us know we're in the end time is the mark of the beast system.
In Revelation 13, God exposes Satan's effort to run the world in the end time.
There's a world government, Revelation 13, 1 through 8.
There's a world religious system, Revelation 13, verse 11 through 15.
And then when you get to verse 16 through 18, the Bible tells us there's going to be a global economic sanctioning system that will be established in the end time to economically sanction individuals to comply with the edicts of the Antichrist and his world governing system in the end time.
He's going to economically sanction them.
Without this number, you're not going to be able to buy or sell.
Well, think about this.
Central Bank Control Debate 00:07:02
When we think about where we're at in the end time, until my generation, that was not possible until the invention of the computer, the internet, blockchain technologies, AI, all of these technologies that are on the earth right now.
Until that, the mark of the beast system wasn't possible in past generations.
They would have never even understood how to even dole that out.
So now here we are in 2025, and we have a system around the world that controls the economies of the world.
Almost every nation on the planet has a central bank, and the central banks control the economies of that nation.
And there's a central bank of the central banks called the Bank for International Settlements.
And this is how the elites, the globalists, control the economy of the world.
Well, in the United States, we have what's called the Federal Reserve Bank.
That's our central bank.
Our Constitution gives the Congress the power to control the economy in America, a group of elected officials.
But back in 1913, a very powerful group of bankers and bought and paid for politicians changed that.
They passed what was called the Federal Reserve Act.
And that took the power away from Congress to control the economy of America and place that power in the hands of a cartel of private bankers.
Has nothing to do with the government.
Okay.
Jump forward to 2025.
The central bank today controls the economy of America.
There's nobody listening to us today that has ever heard that the Congress was getting ready to lower or raise interest rates.
But we've all heard, well, the Fed is getting ready to raise or lower interest rates because the Federal Reserve, this private cartel of bankers, is the one controlling the economy in America.
They lower the interest rates, the economy takes off screaming.
They raise the interest rates and the economy comes to a screeching halt, right?
Okay.
And many other ways that they control the economy of America.
Well, President Trump comes on the scene.
And he wants, he's doing a lot of things to try to get the economy screaming again.
However, he has no control over the Federal Reserve.
Actually, the Congress has the ability that should have the power from our Constitution to do that, but nobody has power over the Federal Reserve.
So today, President Trump, the Federal Reserve, and most central banks around the world are trying to implement what's called a central bank digital currency.
What they would love to do is to move away from cash.
Now, they'll tell you, oh, no, we don't want to get rid of cash, but that's the goal.
A cashless society, and everybody would move on to a central bank digital currency system issued by the government.
A lot of people are dealing in cryptocurrencies, but those are decentralized.
They're not able to be controlled by the government.
But a central bank digital currency would be controlled by the government.
They're programmable.
The problem is, they would know every transaction that you do, the amount of money that goes into your account, the amount of money coming out, what you're spending the money on, what you can donate to, like a church or an orphanage.
The government could control everything you could do, buying or selling.
And so when we look at this, President Trump has said, well, I don't want to have that happen here in America.
It would put America in a noose.
Every American would be under the thumb of the world government once they could control them economically.
So he has said, well, we don't want, we'll never have a central bank digital currency here in America.
Well, of course, the international bankers, they're going insane because they're dying to have control of everybody economically.
They want to implement these central bank digital currencies.
And so President Trump, back in January or February, he signed an executive order, never going to have a central bank digital currency under my watch.
The whip of the Congress whip today, his name is Emmer.
He just proposed a bill that would, the anti-central bank digital currency bill, it has went through the House.
It's got to go through the Senate to be signed by President Trump.
And there could be a holdup in the Senate.
If I was everybody, I'd call your senators and say, hey, make sure you pass that anti-central bank digital currency bill because we want that passed into law here in America.
But what President Trump is doing is he's fighting back the ability of the Federal Reserve, the United States Central Bank, to control everybody individually, economically.
Okay, why is this prophetic?
Because the Bible says, Revelation 13, verse 16 through 18, that the Antichrist in the end time will use a global economic sanctioning system to cause people to conform, to bow down to his edicts, thereby worshiping him and his world governing body in the end time.
It's prophetic because the Bible says the United States will not be fully engaged in this world governing body in the end time.
Well, here we are.
We see President Trump pushing us out of world government in many ways.
Just this morning, I read where he's going to pull us out of UNESCO and the United Nations Educational Scientific Cultural Organization, pulling us out of that.
And against the central bank, this already fully functioning global economic sanctioning system.
He's trying to pull us out of that and keep the United States from being fully engaged with the mark of the beast system in the end time.
Now, I don't know if he would say this is part of the mark of the beast system, but God has already foresaw everything that's going to take place.
And he went back and told John 2,000 years ago, here's what's going to happen in the end time.
Now we have President Trump trying to keep the central bank digital currency frame being implemented here in America.
And it's very, very prophetic because I know that the United States is one of the three nations mentioned in the Bible that will not be fully engaged in the world government in the end time and stand with Israel and protect her.
So the United States, Israel, and Jordan are the three nations that will not comply or not be fully engaged in the world governing body.
The Bible says the Antichrist will find will face resistance all the way to the end.
Portable Power Solutions 00:03:05
Well, that's exactly what's going on right now with President Trump, the Federal Reserve, and the central bank digital currency system.
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Third Temple Debate 00:12:28
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Reverend Dave, I want to ask you a question.
Right now, there are red heifers in Israel.
I know that you know the man personally who raised a few of those red heifers, but I want to talk about the third temple because a lot of people are saying, well, there will be a rebuilt third temple.
There won't be a rebuilt third temple.
We actually heard a man's opinion the other day here on the show who says, you know, it is not a good thing for Christians to support a third temple being built in Israel.
So I want to get your opinion.
What is all this about a third temple?
Yeah, so the obviously the second temple was torn down in 70 AD by the Roman general Titus, and the Jews have been looking for the rebuilding of their temple for close to 2,000 years now.
The Bible actually says there will be a third temple.
Again, the second temple was torn down in 70 AD.
The book of Revelation was written by John about 9596 AD, according to most scholars.
And he prophesied about a temple that would be rebuilt in the future.
He saw a future vision.
Again, 20 to 25, maybe 30 years after the second temple had been torn down.
And in Revelation chapter 11, verse 1 and 2, the angel looked at John and said, John, now in Revelation chapter 11, these are events that will occur during the final three and one half years, during the Great Tribulation period, just prior to the second coming of Jesus Christ.
And John was, the angel said, John, he was given a reed like under a rod.
And he said, John, measure the temple, but don't measure the outer court because it will be trodden down to the Gentiles for 42 months.
So he was prophesying about a future temple.
But again, the temple was destroyed in 70 AD.
So they haven't had a temple ever since.
So he's saying sometime in the future, during the final three and one half years, there's a temple that's already going to be rebuilt.
Measure the temple, but don't measure the outer court.
Also, in 2 Thessalonians 2, verse 3 and 4, the Bible talks about an event called the abomination of desolation.
It's Daniel 9, 27, Matthew chapter 24.
Jesus just mentioned it.
And the abomination of desolation is when the Antichrist will stand in a rebuilt Jewish temple, proclaiming to be God.
That's the Apostle Paul's explanation in 2 Thessalonians chapter 2, verse 3 through 4.
He will stand in the temple, showing himself that he is God and claiming to be God.
So there has to be, he can't stand in a temple if there is no temple.
These are future prophecies.
So it lets us know beyond a shadow of a doubt that there will be a third temple.
You mentioned the red heifer.
The red heifer, going back to Numbers 19, the red heifer is a ceremony that has to be performed for the purification of any Jew that has been coming contact with a dead body, whether they've been to a funeral, walked by a graveyard, they've been, you know, went to a hospital, anything, they would need to be purified.
So the Jews today believe that every Jew should be purified for the resumption of sacrifices when the temple is built in the near future.
They believe they have to have a totally kosher red heifer, no white hairs, no black hairs, no blemishes.
A yoke has never been on its neck, and that they could burn this at the ceremony.
They don't call it a sacrifice because it's not for the atonement for sins.
It's a purification ceremony that they could burn this total red heifer and then be able to resume sacrifices in the new third temple like they did in the Old Testament.
So they, years ago, a friend of mine, Byron Stenson, took five red heifers to Israel as pets.
They had 21 red heifers over here in Rockwell, Texas, but they were allowed to take five of them by the Israeli government and they placed them up in Shiloh.
And they still have two of them.
Three of them either got blemishes or got red and white or black or white hairs.
So they became non-kosher.
They are breeding them with a red bull and to have future red heifers and things like that.
But just recently, you guys may have seen this.
One of the red heifers that got like, I think she got some white hairs on her.
They used that as kind of like a, it appears they used it as some type of a mock or a rehearsal ceremony and they burned that thing.
You can go to Times of Israel, many news sites recorded it and showed the video of them burning this thing up in Shiloh.
They did not do it down on the Mount of Olives, which is where the Jews believe that the ceremony has to be done.
And they've already got property purchased on the Mount of Olives, but it looks like they did that as a rehearsal up in Shiloh for that.
So things are moving right along.
They still have two kosher red heifers in Israel for this upcoming ceremony.
Many people are believing.
I don't know if this is the case, but many people are believing and hoping that it might be done by the end of the year.
I don't know.
We'll have to see what happens.
However, you mentioned that you talked to somebody that said that Christians and people like that should not support this.
I agree with that.
I will never give a dime to the building of the third temple.
I won't give a dime to the red heifer project because I don't believe Israel needs that for salvation.
A lot of Jews believe that.
I don't believe that.
Obviously, Jesus told Nicodemus, who was a religious Jew, except a man's born again, he can't enter or see the kingdom of God.
That's either Jew or Gentile.
That's John chapter 3.
Marvel not that I say unto you, Nicodemus, you must be born again.
The born again is the New Testament plan of salvation.
Jew and Gentile both.
The early church was Jew and Gentile mixed.
So there is going to be a third temple rebuilt.
They are going to resume sacrifices.
The Antichrist will stop those sacrifices in the near future.
However, I will not support that financially because I don't agree that they need that for salvation.
Now, if it was an effort to help them be born again, yeah, I'd give to that.
But as far as supporting the temple, I'll never give a dime to that because like your guest or whatever, I don't necessarily agree that I don't agree that they would need that for the plan of salvation.
It's a traditional thing with them.
It's not a New Testament biblical thing.
And so, yeah, there's a lot going around about the third temple.
I mean, I'm in the news every day.
We have a college over there in downtown Jerusalem.
I was just over in Israel, just got back two days before Israel started bombing Iran.
And I told him, I said, you guys are going to quit having us come over there because you guys start a war every time I come over there.
But the fact is, is that a lot of people have said they've started building the third temple.
They have not done that.
I know the people at the Temple Institute.
No, they have not started building the Third Temple.
I've seen the blueprints for it.
And I know I knew the guy before he passed away, Gershon Solomon, who got the two cornerstones for the Third Temple.
They're ready to go.
And certainly they have a reproduced Ark of the Covenant.
They've got the golden candlesticks, the table of shoebread, the altar of incense, the brazen altar and labor.
All of that's ready to go.
The priests have been trained.
They're ready to go.
All they need is for the Israelis and the Palestinians to sign a peace agreement, which would allow them to place the Temple Mount under a sharing arrangement between Jews and Gentiles, which is going to happen.
The Bible says, John, measure the temple, but don't measure the outer court.
It's going to be trodden down to the Gentiles in the near future.
And this has already been proposed by a guy named Halevi in the Israeli Knesset that let's just share the Temple Mount.
And the Muslims could have the south end where the Al-Aqsa Mosque is.
The Jews could have the north end where the dome of the rock in that big 10-acre courtyard is where the dome of the spirits is located north of there.
And we could build our third synagogue up there.
And so it's already been proposed.
The Bible says that's what's going to happen.
So that's what's going on in the news right now.
The red heifer, they're just waiting for the approval by the Israeli government to perform that red heifer ceremony, they call it.
They don't want to call it a sacrifice because it's not for the atonement for sin.
It's a purification ceremony so they can resume sacrifices once the third temple is rebuilt.
Wow.
You know, Mondo, it's hard to hear all of this and think that we are not living in the last days.
I truly believe we are.
Friends, make sure you make the most important decision that you will ever make.
That is giving your life to Jesus Christ because that is how you can ensure you have a firm foundation.
Mondo, it's important, make sure that you see what's happening in the world, but not to be fearful of what's happening in the world.
Can I give you an advice?
Don't get drunken with information.
We have so much information that people are getting drunk with it and they don't know how to see clearly now.
My advice to you is stay in the word.
God will reveal his plan that he has already planned for the time that you and I are living in right now.
But it's only through the word that we get revelation.
Don't get it mixed up.
Don't run to and fro and try to get a word from God.
It's in your living room.
It's in your bedroom.
Just open up the word and read it over and over and over until he reveals to you the plan that he has for you and I. That's right.
Yeah.
If you don't know who he is through his word, you don't have a foundation.
And if you don't have a foundation, anything can shake you.
So friends, make sure you have that firm foundation.
I want to say thank you to all of our monthly partners who continue to support the PTL television network and allow us to continue to broadcast the gospel of Jesus Christ around the world.
And I want to say thank you to Reverend Dave Robbins of Entime Ministries for coming and being on our broadcast.
He's done many things with us, conferences here in person.
He's one of the only people that I've pitched a debate to.
And he's actually one of the only people who said yes to it.
I want to get the pre-tribulation, mid-tribulation, post-tribulation people all together and let them very cordially debate why they think they're right.
And Dave Robbins is actually the only man who's agreed to it.
So we might have a one-ended debate.
He's going to win it because he's going to be the only one here.
So, Dave, I'll challenge him.
You're going to challenge him?
Yeah, I'll challenge him.
Yeah, we're going to leave.
I'll get ChatGPT to get me some questions.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think Reverend Dave Robbins is probably smarter than Chad GPT too.
So praise God for that.
Guys, we're going to be back with him again for another show.
Make sure to watch that.
If you missed the first episode, you can go download the PTL television app or you can go to PTL.tv and you can re-watch this episode.
I want to say thank you, Mondo.
We have all those monthly supporters who go and, you know, it's their hard-earned money what they do.
And they support us continuing to have other people on our network and their shows on the PTL network.
I want to thank Bill, Russell, Verna, Valerie, Susan.
I talked to them this week.
Amen.
And I want to say thank you for believing in Ricky and I.
And of course, your friend Jim Baker.
You know, he's raised us.
He's really been a part of our lives.
He's corrected us in many places.
Probably me more than you.
Yeah, probably you more than I am.
I stay close to the word.
But he loves you.
And thank you for standing with our father, your friend Jim Baker.
I want to tell you something.
It's a miracle that he's still alive.
He suffered some more many strokes, but this guy continues to fight.
And I believe it's because of your prayers that he continues.
I think he still has a long mission ahead, and we want you to still be a part of it.
Amen.
Amen.
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We'll be back with Reverend Dave Robbins for a show too tomorrow.
God bless you.
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