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Aug. 4, 2025 - Jim Bakker Show
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The Jim Bakker Show with Dave Robbins Part 2
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Revelation's Final Prophecies 00:15:24
Welcome to the Jim Baker Family Show.
Our guest today is an author, end time prophecy teacher, and host of The End Time Show, Reverend Dave Robbins.
Our co-host today is Reverend Mondo de la Vega.
And now, here is your host, Pastor Ricky Baker.
Hello, friends.
You're watching the PTL Television Network.
We are excited you have tuned in with us today.
Today, we have day two with Reverend Dave Robbins.
He's the son-in-law of the late Irvin Baxter and also an end time prophecy teacher.
Mondo, honestly, one of the most respected teachers that I've ever, anywhere I go and I say, hey, you know, we have a great relationship with end time, Reverend Dave Robbins, Vince Stiegler, Doug Norvell, all those men.
They always say, you know, that they love the end time family.
They love their integrity and they love how they teach the word of God from the word of God.
And the only network of that kind that had me on to talk about my book.
That's true.
And Dave Robbins, thank you for having me on your program.
We have a lot more in common than I thought, Reverend.
And that was very special to sit and be interviewed by Reverend Dave.
They don't do it often, but when they do it, they do it right.
So thank you, sir.
Amen.
Reverend Dave, I want to ask you this question.
What are the six major prophecies that we should be watching right now during this season?
Yeah, so they're mentioned in the first three would be mentioned in Revelation chapter 13.
Revelation 13, 1 through 8 mentions a world governing body, a federalization of nations that would be on the earth at the time of the second coming of Jesus Christ that would be ruled by the Antichrist.
So the first one, world government.
It's being established right now.
The United Nations is the seat of that world governing body.
And of course, they have peacekeepers around the world and a lot of different things.
The World Health Organization, World Trade Organization, International Monetary Fund, International Criminal Court.
Those are just a few of the tentacles of this occupus, octopus of world governing body in the earth today.
That's number one.
Number two, the establishment of a world religious system.
Interfaithism, all these huge interfaith meetings, ecumenism, all these different things are efforts to gather all the nations of the world together, not just for peace.
That's what you're being sold, but that you're being sold a bill of goods because they're gathering them together, weaponizing churches advocating for the world governing body.
That's why you have very influential religious figures writing papers on human-induced global warming, which leads to climate change, and saying we need a world government to manage all of this.
So world religion, world government, world religion.
And then this global economic sanctioning system that's being put together.
On Tucker Carlson's program recently, there was a lady named Catherine Austin Fitz.
And she told Tucker Carlson, she said, we're being placed into a digital concentration camp, which is a perfect name for it, a digital concentration camp where they can track, trace, and control every single purchase, everything you do, every online account, everything.
They want to track and control you.
So world government, war religion, a global economic sanctioning system or precursors to the mark of the beast, an Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement, Daniel 9, 27, and other places.
You tie them all together.
When you look at the entire scope of Bible prophecy, there's going to be a two-state solution created in the near future.
I know a lot of people say this is impossible, but Jesus painted the picture of that in Matthew chapter 24.
Let those which be in Judea flee when you see the abomination of desolation occur.
He's painting the picture of a future autonomous situation for the Palestinians out there, and the Jews will be left out there under Palestinian rule.
So there's going to be an Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement in the near future, a peace agreement that will start the final seven years to the second coming of Jesus Christ.
Also, the World War III, Revelation 9, verse 13 through 21, is coming up here in the very near future.
Certainly something we should be watching for.
When I went to Israel recently and preached at the big camp meeting over there, when I got back two days later, Israel fires off on Iran.
You remember it happened.
This is the 12 Days War they talked about.
And then, of course, the United States went over there with our bunker-busting bombs and hit Iran's nuclear aspirations.
That week, we were talking about World War III.
Could that, you know, will Iran and China come in or Israel, Russia, and China come in and help their sister Iran?
It's called the Axis of Evil.
Well, of course, that was over.
Nothing happened.
There was not one shot fired at the B-2 bombers that went over there to drop those bunker-busting bombs.
A week later, President Trump said, hey, we're done with that.
Now let's expand the Abraham Accords.
We're talking about a peace agreement in the Middle East.
The next two things on God's prophetic timeline, this peace agreement and World War III, they dominate the headlines of many papers here in the United States, but certainly any Israeli newspaper, they're dominating the headlines every day, guys.
So, and then, of course, great end time revival.
In the midst of all this chaos, the Bible prophesies the greatest time of revival the world's ever seen.
Revelation 7, book of Zechariah, many places.
And so, these are the six that I'm watching right now.
There's many things to tie into all of this: the Red Heifers, the Third Temple, and all that after the peace agreement.
But world government, world religion, precursors to the Mark of the Beast, the Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement, the World War III, that's coming.
There's not one tenth of 1% chance that that war will not happen.
Revelation 9, verse 13 through 21, and then great end time revival.
These are the six prophecies that all of us should be watching for right now.
And, Reverend, you've done a fantastic job just narrowing down the six prophetic events that you're looking for.
I'm looking for them as you're talking.
I'm looking at different headlines right now that are talking about what you just mentioned.
Now, I got to ask you this: what prophecies are left to be fulfilled before you ready for this?
Ta-da-na-na-na.
The rapture.
Yeah, so there actually are, there's several prophecies to be fulfilled yet before the rapture occurs, in my opinion.
I believe I can prove that scripturally.
Of course, this World War III that we talked about, it's in the very near future.
If it hasn't already begun, guys, some people believe with Iran getting bombed by Israel that World War III began and that it will eventually, because this thing with Iran is not over yet.
So, they believe with the axis of evil that that potentially could have been the thing that could lead to a World War III situation.
So, World War III, it's coming up in the near future, Revelation 9, 13 through 21, because the first five trumpets in the book of Revelation have already occurred.
Then, also, if you walk along a timeline, there's the Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement that would start the final seven years, the one that has the five biblical characteristics.
And then, in the first three and one-half years of the final seven years, there's the building of the third temple and the resumption of sacrifices.
It's talked about in the book of Daniel, chapter 11.
And then, when you get to the halfway point of that final seven-year period, many things happen simultaneously.
That's when the war in heaven takes place in Revelation chapter 12, when Satan is defeated and bound to the earth.
That's also when the Antichrist stands in a rebuilt Jewish temple proclaiming to be God.
That's that event called the abomination of desolation.
That's when the Jews will have to flee.
The halfway point is when the two witnesses come on the scene, Revelation chapter 11.
They will minister for 1,260 days or that final three and one half years.
So many things happen right there in the middle of that final seven-year period.
That also launches the great tribulation, the abomination of desolation.
In Matthew 24, Jesus said, when you see the abomination of desolation occur, when you see that Antichrist stand in that rebuilt Jewish temple, let them which be in Judea flee.
And then in verse 21, it says, for then will be great tribulation, such as never was or ever will be again.
And so that tribulation, at least six verses in the Bible, tell us that only lasts three and one half years.
Some places it says 42 months.
Some places 1,260 days.
And in some places, time, times, and half a time.
Time is one year.
Times is two years.
And a half a time is half a year.
So it's all three and one half years.
There's no such thing in the Bible of a seven-year great tribulation.
There is this final seven years, but the great tribulation lasts the final three and one half years of that.
And so during the final three and one half years, that's when the two witnesses are ministering.
That's when great end time revival is happening.
That's Revelation 7.
And then that's when the mark of the beast is being doled out by the Antichrist and the false prophet.
This global economic sanctioning system is being doled out on the earth.
Anybody who will not comply with the edicts of the world governing body, the Antichrist, they will be persecuted.
Jesus said it would be the worst time of persecution the world has ever known.
And Christians and Jews, we're going to face some stuff, guys.
Let's just face it, in my opinion.
And then at the end of that, that's when the Battle of Armageddon occurs.
This is Revelation chapter 16.
The Battle of Armageddon is mentioned many times, but the Revelation 16 and 19 give the most detailed account of that.
That's when the wrath of God is poured out.
The great tribulation is not the wrath of God.
That's the wrath of Satan.
That's a misinterpretation of scripture by a lot of people.
Great tribulation, wrath of Satan.
The wrath of God is the seven vials of the wrath of God that's poured out immediately after the great tribulation.
And that's Revelation 16, the seven vials of the wrath of God.
And of course, it ends in 19 because chapters 17 and 18 are parenthetical chapters.
The world religion, the judgment of that, it's kind of wedged right in there between 16 and 19.
But in 19, the Battle of Armageddon culminates.
The Antichrist is destroyed.
The false prophets destroyed, cast into the lake of fire.
So that's kind of a very quick list of things that need to occur, the major events that need to occur from here to the second coming of Jesus Christ.
In my opinion, we could be about, we're about to enter that final seven-year period.
May I say this?
I almost say, can I say this?
That's not correct English, right?
Come on.
May I say this?
He's getting better.
With my accent, can I, may I?
Now, listen, may I say this?
If everything that you just heard goes against your theological perspective that you have learned throughout the years, because maybe your denominational teaches differently, don't dismiss it.
Grab it, bring your Bible out, and let's go through the scriptures and find out what does the Bible have to say about the times scripturally referencing back and forth in alignment with what Reverend just told us about.
I feel, Reverend, that a lot of times people are so stuck in their ways that they don't give room for learning.
And I believe that if you're going to continue to grow and walk in the faith that God has given you in the revelation, don't just be stuck in one action of the portion of what you heard all of your life.
Instead, grab what Reverend just said.
Let's put it through the scriptures and let's walk through it and let's learn together.
Because, Reverend, there's a lot of things in the Bible that we don't understand.
The Bible can get complicated when it talks about revelation.
It gets complicated in prophecy.
It gets very complex a lot of times and people dismiss it because, you know what, I don't get it.
I don't understand it.
So I'm just going to have the guy preaching just tell us about it and I'll believe.
I'll trust him and believe it.
Yet we come to find out that we have been led astray because we haven't been reading the word.
What do you say before I ask my next question?
What do you say to those that hold a different view of what you just said about the events that have to take place before the rapture?
Exactly.
And I'm glad you brought this up.
This is very good, Mondo.
Thank you for that.
I would want to tell everybody, so I'm a preacher of the gospel.
I'm a God-called licensed minister, but I'm not afraid to talk to somebody about things.
And for somebody, if somebody could prove to me that there is a pre-tribulation rapture, that's what this conversation is all about, that the rapture happens prior to the great tribulation.
I would be happy for that.
I'm not just all in here anxious to go through the great tribulation.
But that's why I've said I would participate in a public discussion about this if somebody will just use the Bible.
I don't want to go to commentaries.
I don't want to go to different books.
If you'll just use the Bible and show me scripture where the Bible says that the rapture will happen before the tribulation, then I would believe it.
I would admit, hey, I'm wrong, and I'll go with that.
So that's one of the things you got to look at both.
I'm willing to, I've looked at both sides, believe me.
And that's obviously I'm coming up with a post-trib rapture.
But let me tell you guys something real quick.
If we stick by just the Bible, in Matthew 24, they ask the Lord, two things.
Tell us, when shall these things be?
What's going to be the sign of your coming and of the end of this age?
He goes down through there.
You're going to hear, take heed that no man deceives you.
Many will come in my name, deceive many.
You hear of wars, rumors of wars, pestilence.
You guys know.
You're going to see the abomination of desolation.
Then will be great tribulation.
He's laying out what's going to happen at the end of the age, guys.
Then you'll see great tribulation such as never has been before, ever will be again.
Let him that endureth, he that endureth to the end, the same shall be saved.
But he talks about the great tribulation.
And then he says in verse 29 through 31, listen closely.
Jesus says, immediately after the great tribulation he had just talked about in verse 21, now we're in verse 29.
Immediately after the tribulation of those days, will the sun be darkened, moon shall not give her light, stars will fall from heaven, the powers of heaven shall be shaken, then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the son of man coming in the clouds of heaven, and he will send his angels with the sound of a great trumpet to gather his elect.
Jesus specifically says that when he comes and sends his angels with the sound of a trumpet to gather the elect, that's the rapture.
Open Mind on Rapture 00:03:50
He specifically says in verse 29 that that event happens immediately after the tribulation of those days.
Okay.
So I've asked people for years, look, I'm on the radio, television.
I'm willing to be converted to a pre-trib rapture.
I've taught all my pastor, evangelists, friends, missionaries, give me one verse or a passage of verses in the Bible that says the rapture occurs before the tribulation.
If you can give me that verse or those passages, I'll change my mind.
I'll admit I was wrong.
And hey, we're going to start talking about pre-trib rapture.
But nobody in all the years I've been doing this, nobody's ever given me that verse because there's not a verse in the Bible that will contradict Matthew chapter 24, verse 29 through 31.
Immediately after the tribulation of those days, would the Lord come and send his angels with the sound of a trumpet to gather the elect.
So here's the deal, guys, is that anybody out there, anybody can believe whatever they want, but my belief system goes straight to, I stick to the Bible like super glue.
I will never move off of that.
So that's why I've said I'll participate in any kind of discussion with anybody, have no problem.
If we just use the Bible, commentaries, man, I honestly, guys, I don't have a commentary I would recommend.
And when it comes to all, you know, the early church fathers and all this, look, I get all that, but there's not anything that's going to contradict the word of God, in my opinion.
It just, it's not there.
The words to eternal life are in that book.
So the Bible is the infallible word of God.
It's the, think about this.
Almighty God only wrote one book ever.
Almighty God wrote one book.
And in that book, when he was manifested in the flesh here on the earth, he said, look, the rapture is going to occur immediately after the tribulation of those days.
So that's the thing.
I keep an open mind.
I've told all my buddies, look, if you can give me Bible for it, I'll admit I was wrong and made a mistake in that interpretation and move on and I'll start teaching what you got to teach.
That you got to have an open mind to this.
I've told people before, I want to go to heaven so bad, if you can show me a, there's only one plan of salvation in the word of God.
If you can show me a different one than what we're all doing, then I want to go to heaven.
I'll change my mind.
I've got a totally open mind about all this.
But the fact is, there are, the Bible wants, God wanted us to be able to settle on some things.
The Bible says God didn't give us a spirit of fear, but of love, apparent, of a sound mind, a settled mind.
And so I don't think we have to guess on these things.
It's not left open for, you know, it's to me, I'm settled.
The rapture happens immediately after the tribulation of those days.
But here's the deal.
If somebody says, look, Dave, I just don't agree with you, that's fine.
Just make sure you're ready to go.
That's the main thing.
Because you can believe in a pre-post-trib.
It's not a salvation issue.
You can still go to be with the Lord on the rapture day.
But as far as my opinion, I believe scripture teaches a post-trib rapture, but I'm willing to be proving wrong on that point.
Amen.
Yeah, we do agree.
I mean, me personally, I agree with that.
I believe we will go through our, you know, tribulation, go post-tribulation.
But I've said it many times.
I preach it in the church as well.
I said, hey, if it's pre-trib, mid-trib, post-trib, I don't care.
I know I'm going up.
Whenever that horn goes off, I'm on my way up.
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Supporting Israel in End Times 00:06:42
Amen.
Reverend Dave, I want to ask you this question.
Just a few minutes left in the broadcast.
If somebody is watching this today and they're saying, well, I've never really been a news watcher.
I've never really been into end times prophetic messages.
Why would it be important for them today to really start looking at the season we're living in?
So prophecy is given to us for many reasons.
Jesus said in John 14, 29, I tell you these things before they come to pass, that when they come to pass, you would believe.
So number one, I can take an atheist, you guys, and if I can get that with a sincere heart, if I can get them to sit and listen to me for about 10, 15 minutes, I can use Bible prophecy, current events right now, to show them how prophecies written 2,000 to 2,500 years ago are coming to pass right now.
The Bible's the only book on the planet that I can do that with.
Not any old ancient Chinese proverbs, the Quran, none of that.
Just the Bible, the only book.
Then I can, I have taken it.
I've done it.
I've taken that and used current events to show how those events are coming to pass, those prophesied events, and helped build their faith in the word of God, which is the only book that has the words to eternal life.
So it's a wonderful salvation tool.
But if somebody's already saved and they're thinking, man, why do I even need to study Bible prophecy?
Okay, very important.
Because in the end time, there are events that you absolutely cannot partake in.
The mark of the beast, number one, you can't worship or advocate for a world governing body.
And so those are of eternal consequence.
The Bible says everyone whose name is not written in the Lamb's Book of Life will worship the Antichrist and Satan himself.
You can't do that.
And so I'm me as a Christian, I will never advocate for a world governing body.
I will never give any money to the United Nations or any of the World Health Organization, none of that stuff.
I will not support any of their propaganda, any of their false narrative propaganda that they're putting out.
I won't support any of that as a Christian.
So there are things that I should not and cannot partake in in the end time.
But there are things that I absolutely should.
participate in.
I've got to support Israel in the end time.
There's this huge thing out now called replacement theology.
Well, if you understand Bible prophecy, replacement theology would be that when the Jews rejected Jesus originally when he was here the first time, that God just, you know, he erased them off the map and that they have no place in the plan of God for the future.
That's absolutely not true.
If you understand Bible prophecy, you understand that is in Ezekiel 37 that God would draw that nation of Israel back.
Ezekiel's boneyard is a prophecy of God drawing the nation of Israel back out of the Holocaust, back into a nation that happened at the end of 1945, and then they came back together as a nation in 1948.
And then many things, a lot of Bible prophecy is centered right there in Jerusalem and in the nation of Israel.
And so the United States is going to stand with Israel throughout the end time.
So there's so many prophecies that let us know Israel has a part.
Well, the Bible says that Abraham, I will bless them that bless you and I will curse them that curse you.
So in my opinion, we support Israel heavily.
In my opinion, you should support Israel in the end time and the effort.
You say, why do we support Israel?
I'm supporting the nation.
I don't agree with everything they do, but I support the nation.
And we have a college there to help the Jews to have an opportunity to be saved in the end time because they still believe they're under the law.
And obviously, we know we've been brought out under that.
And the end time church is going to be a Jewish-Gentile church mixed.
So I've seen many Jews saved.
That's our goal for being there.
And so there are many reasons to follow end time Bible prophecy.
There are many do's and don'ts in the end time.
But if you don't understand Bible prophecy, some of this stuff's going to take you totally unaware.
And you're going to be like, well, what do I do?
I'm not going to be like that.
God did not want his church being a weak, anemic church in the end time.
He wanted to be in a vibrant church.
When hard times come, man, we're in evangelism mode.
I'm not worried about the Antichrist.
He needs to be worried about me.
But there will be people that are going to be caught unaware.
In 1 Thessalonians chapter 5, the Apostle Paul said, men and brethren, there's no need I write unto you about the times and seasons.
You yourself know that the Lord's going to come as a thief in the night.
That's all he would tell them.
But then he goes from talking to them to talking to us, the end time generation.
He says, but you're not of the night that that day would take you unaware.
And what's he talking about?
The rapture, the second coming.
We're going to know what's coming down the pike.
And he says, so therefore watch and be sober.
So the Bible prophecies help us to know what to watch for, what to participate in, what not to participate in, and how to navigate some of the waters that are just ahead.
God did not want the end time church walking through the end times with blindfolders on.
That's why he laid all this out in very detailed explanations in the word of God.
And so we're in there.
And think about this.
It's the word of God.
I mean, it's Bible prophecy is almost 30% of the only book that God ever wrote.
Do you think he probably wanted us to know something about it?
I think he did.
If you're only going to write one book, guys, Mondo wrote a great book.
But I don't think that's going to be the only book he ever writes.
If you only could only write one book in your entire life, you're going to put the most important things in your life in the book, right?
The most important things you'll ever say.
Well, Almighty God, in all of eternity, he writes one book, and 30% of that is Bible prophecy.
So he probably wants us to know something about it, doesn't he?
Amen.
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