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July 31, 2025 - Jim Bakker Show
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The Jim Bakker Show with Carl Gallups
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A Friend Among Best-Selling Authors 00:13:03
Welcome to the Jim Baker Family Show.
Our special guest today is Pastor Carl Gallops.
Our co-host today is Reverend Mondo de la Vega.
And now, here is your host, Pastor Ricky Baker.
Hello, friends.
You're watching the PTL Television Network.
We are excited to have you tune in with us today.
Today, we have the senior pastor of Hickory Hemmock Baptist Church in Milton, Florida.
He's an Amazon top 60 best-selling author, and he's a friend to the PTL Television Network, our friend, Pastor Carl Gallops.
Yeah, thanks, Ricky, and thanks, Mondo.
It's great to be on with you.
Thank you for having me.
I'm honored to be here.
Amen.
So I see a couple books behind you as well.
I see your website there.
It's Carl Gallups.
What does it say?
CarlGallops.com?
Yes, yes.
CarlGallops.com.
Yes.
So people go there, what are they going to find?
They're going to see every way they can support the ministry, books.
What are we going to see on Carl Gallups?
Well, yeah, no, I don't.
Yeah, I don't ask for anything in the way of financial support for the ministry, but there's a store there that's got all of the books I've written and the books that Zef Parat has written because you can order them right from us and we can get them to you anywhere in the United States post-age free shipping.
But anyway, they can find out about my ministries, television shows.
This show will be on there in a category.
Every sermon I preach is there and archived and it's just a good site.
Lots of information.
Amen.
I know you also have a beautiful commentary on the book of Revelation.
It's really, you break it down verse by verse from 1 to 22.
It's incredible.
You have that there as well.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
It's in audio format, MP3 podcast, and it's on the website.
And you can go there, and it's all free.
We don't charge for anything.
We don't ask anybody for any money for anything.
You know, I know it's a fact.
I know, because I went and listened to the entire Revelation series.
Someone asked me a question.
I realized I actually don't know that.
So I did what any other incredible scholar would do.
And I went and listened to another man talk about it.
Did you just call yourself an incredible scholar?
I know him, the incredible scholar.
And I went and just listened to him.
And what an incredible commentary.
I mean, it's like on par in my mind with dad's, with Pastor Jim Baker's commentary on the book of Revelation, how much depth there is to it, how much other, you know, basis for biblical backing on everything and how much cross-reference of scripture there is.
We have to stop getting bamboozled.
That's a good word.
Because the church doesn't like to study the word.
Not all the church, but a lot of church members are expecting other people to read the word for them, preach the word for them.
And you may not even know that you're being led astray.
Let's go back to the word.
Are certain things that the Bible talks about aligning with what people are aligning with?
I can almost guarantee you that almost everything that people are starting to teach are not aligning with scripture.
But how would you know if you're not staying in the word?
This is what I love, Pastor Carl, because he takes you back to the word, not just one portion.
He references Genesis all the way to Revelation and shows you where and what God is saying throughout the scripture.
And I think it's a lot of information that people are listening to and a lot of information, Ricky and Pastor Carl, that people are falling into deception because they have not studied the word.
They're not wanting to study the word.
And I believe that if you want to be blessed by God, this Bible says, blessed is the man that is hungry and thirsty.
I want to tell you something.
Start getting hungry and thirsty for the word and watch what happens where your theology is going to align back with the scripture.
That's right.
We have to be starving for the word of God, one man of God said during a Sunday Discord.
But Pastor Carl, I want to ask you this question.
I want an update from your perspective.
And, you know, your friend Rabbi is there in Israel a part of the time as well as here in the United States when he travels with you.
But what's going on with Israel and Iran right now?
And also something that's been put on the back burner is what's going on with Israel and the Gaza situation.
Yeah.
Well, no, they're still very deeply involved in all of this.
As far as I know, there's not been a barrage of more missiles coming in, but Israel is always on high alert.
And listen, they have been ever since the day they declared their independence.
A war broke out the next day with five surrounding Muslim nations, Arab nations.
It was a 19-month war.
They finally won.
Israel did.
But ever since then, there's been five or six other major wars, including this last one.
And the Bible speaks of a greater one yet that's going to come.
But it's going to involve all of the players, basically, that have just premiered themselves before the world.
And so I'm not saying that what we saw was the exact fulfillment of Ezekiel 38, but all the major players that are listed there were involved in this one way or the other.
Now, Persia was right front and center.
Russia was right behind them.
Gog and Magog almost always, for a long time, scholars have said that probably most likely is Russia.
But now a lot of modern scholars are saying not only Russia, but the Asian nations.
In other words, China, the Stan nations, even Turkey, Turkic, although Beth Dogarma is listed in Ezekiel 38, and that also is Turkey.
That's a part of Turkey's heritage.
Beth in Hebrew means the house of Torgama, related right to the descendants of Noah.
And Noah's ark landed on Mount Arat in Turkey.
The Euphrates River, the headwaters, the spring of it, is in the mountains of Arat out of Turkey.
The book of Revelation was written to the seven churches of Turkey, Asia Minor, but now we know it as Turkey.
So all of that is involved.
All of those people, even the northern African Libyan, Push, Kut, Put, and Kush, those were involved by either financing what Hamas and Hezbollah on those did and or supporting it and or cheering them on.
I mean, all of the nations that are listed in Ezekiel 38, in fact, our good friend Jonathan Kahn has written a new book.
I can't remember the title right now.
I'm so sorry.
But he literally documents this with all of the nations of Ezekiel 38 were involved in what we've just been through.
And I think it's going to go even deeper later.
But right now, Messianic Rabbi Zeph Parat and his wife, who are coming to the Jim Baker show, I think in August of 2025, I'll be there with them.
They're coming to the United States.
But they're okay.
Their families are okay, but a lot of devastation has happened.
They're still recovering from it, but they're on high alert always.
I hope that answers your question.
It does.
You know, the new book that Rabbi Jonathan Kahn has written is called The Avatar.
You can go and get that.
I think we have an affiliate with Chrism Media as well as with Beth Israel.
It's his church to get the Avatar uncensored.
You can go and get that.
We just had him here with us in person.
I believe we did eight shows with him as well.
An incredible time.
But I want to ask you this question.
You're a citizen of the great states of the United States of America.
I know you're a patriot.
We see everything that's happening right now across the world, but I want to ask you this question.
Is Donald Trump a key to Revelation events?
Well, obviously, I would say yes.
And not because he's Donald Trump or because I'm somehow his sycophant.
I'm saying, listen, I've voted for him.
I've voted for him three times.
I opened his first Florida rally.
I need to give this disclaimer in 2016 in Pensacola, Florida.
But I don't think he's an angel from heaven.
I don't think he's the savior of America or of the world.
But listen, the United States has been used in biblical prophecy.
I mean, we were instrumental in helping Israel to come back.
We've defended Israel ever since.
We've had some administrations that weren't that great at it, but the nation as a whole, even today with all the anti-Semitism around the world and even in America, the vast majority of Americans support Israel's right to exist.
So we are being used.
And Donald Trump is considered by the Israelis and Benjamin Netanyahu to be a great friend of Israel, a great defender of Israel.
So in all of those respects, yes, he is being used in biblical prophecy that way.
Now, it is not because he's the greatest prophet that ever lived or the greatest Christian that ever lived, if he even is born again.
He says he is, and I take his word for it.
But I'm just saying, generally speaking, it's not about Carl Gallops or you guys or Donald Trump.
It's about the Lord God.
It's about Jesus Christ and the throne of heaven.
And he is directing all of this.
And he can use anybody he wants.
I'm a perfect example.
I'm a nobody that he has raised up to use in these last days.
And you guys could probably say the same thing about yourself.
So, yeah, I think he is being used in those kinds of ways.
Amen.
You know, why are we still seeing so much anti-Semitism in this country?
We truly do live in what I believe is the best country in the entire world, but we're seeing a rise of anti-Semitism.
And just when we thought it hit its peak, it's continuing to grow.
Yeah, the answer is biblical and it's simple, but yet complex.
But I'll keep it simple and short.
The bottom line is, Jesus said, until he returns, we are living in Satan's world.
Jesus called him the God, little G, of this age, the prince of the power of the air, the prince of this world.
Jesus said all of that.
So that's what we're living in.
And we've got to wrap our heads around that fact.
And so out of that comes Satan's hatred for the Jewish people because it goes back to the Garden of Eden.
When Satan stole this whole thing, he's the thief that comes to steal, kill, and destroy.
And when he stole this thing we now know as earth life, the Garden of Eden was shut off by the cherubim.
And in Hebrew, in English, we say cherubim, but cut off.
And the book of Hebrews says that's all behind the veil, behind the curtain of the dimensions.
But out front, we're living in this.
Well, this is Satan's domain right now.
And so what happens is Satan hates the Jewish people because in the Garden of Eden, God pronounced judgment on him.
From the womb of a woman will come a male child that will crush your head.
Well, the problem is he eventually found out it would be a Jewish woman, and the child that would be born would be a Jewish man who is really God in the flesh, Emmanuel, God with us, Isaiah 7.
Unto us a son is born unto us, a child is given, Isaiah 9, and he will be called everlasting Father, mighty God, and of the rule of his kingdom there will be no end.
Satan finally figured all that out.
And now at the cross, he saw, he thought he put Jesus on the cross.
Paul says in 2 Corinthians chapter 2, he said, if the rulers of this age had only known, they would not have crucified the Son of God, the rulers of this age.
That includes Satan.
Paul writes about that in Ephesians 6.
So, so, but, and Jesus even said about Jesus, Judas, he told his disciples, Satan has entered in him to betray me.
Well, that means Satan thought that he could use Judas to get Jesus on the cross.
But what he found out was the cross was his death nail.
It was Satan's death knell.
And then when Jesus rose from the dead and said, basically, okay, now smut face, big boy, you see what you just did?
I am the one that gives life to everything.
I am your creator, Satan.
You had no idea who I was.
And you have stepped right into the trap.
I am the lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
So ever since then, Revelation 12 tells us the answer to your question.
The last few verses, it says, and once he was thrown down, he's filled with rage and he knows his time is now short.
And it says he went off to make war against the woman that gave birth to the child.
That doesn't mean Mother Mary now, but what it means is, and I'm not saying the Catholic thing, I'm just saying the mother of the child whose name is Mary, but she was an Israelite.
She was a Jewish woman.
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So the woman is Israel that birthed the whole gospel, birthed Jesus Christ.
And he says he goes off to make war against Israel and those who hold to the testimony of Jesus Christ.
So he hates Israel.
He hates Christians.
I mean, born-again Christians.
He doesn't mind about the religious Christians that aren't born again.
They just, you know, say, Lord, Lord.
But that's what it's all about.
Does that make sense, Ricky?
That does make sense.
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You know, in the times that we're living in right now, I want you to remember the words of Pastor Jim Baker in 1999.
He wrote the 31 things, and one of those things was weather being out of control.
Pastor Carl, I know you primarily focus on biblical prophecy and things like that, but we're seeing weather patterns like we have never seen before here in the United States of America.
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Should we be looking at that as a sign of the times?
Yeah, well, I think we can.
I just, I urge Christians not to be too dogmatic about every drop of rain that falls or every storm that comes through, because all of these things have gone on truly since the beginning of time.
And I know I sound like that, 2 Peter.
Where is this coming?
And of course, the Lord's coming.
And of course, the Bible does speak of turmultuous times in the weather.
Listen, again, all of this, Satan is who?
The prince of the power of the air.
Who is he?
The God of this age.
Who is he?
The prince of this world.
Jesus said all of that.
So earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes, devastation, floods, death, dying.
Satan brought all of that.
Romans chapter 8, Paul says the whole world is groaning in anticipation of a relief from this as a woman in the pains of child's birth, childbirth.
So that's the perspective.
And yes, we are going to see these things intensify, I do believe.
And again, we can't take every storm that comes through and say, okay, that's a sign.
Well, taken together, it is.
And watching the unfolding of the basic, the way it's going, yes, it's all a part of it.
That's a part of the biblical science.
I think the most important one, though, is the return of Israel.
And I think the attack of Persia.
And I think the exponential explosion of technology.
Those are said black and white in the scriptures, out of the mouth of Jesus, out of the mouth of Paul, out of the mouth of John the Revelator, and out of the mouth of Daniel, who is the book of Revelation from the Old Testament.
I hope that helps.
You know, you know, that makes me think about this question right here.
Let's go back to this because I think a lot of people are watching what's happening right now.
What are the top three prophetic events that we need to be watching for?
I know you mentioned Israel, you mentioned AI.
What would be the third one?
Yeah.
Well, the third one is this continual attack and planning to attack Israel directly and the nations surrounding Jerusalem.
Yet, Ezekiel 38 and 39 says that he, God himself, will intervene supernaturally in the whole world, all the nations will see it and be in awe, and that he will destroy those nations that would not come to Israel's aid, and particularly those that attacked him, attacked Israel and Jerusalem.
But the whole point is, that is the hugest sign, just the return of Israel.
That's it.
I mean, the Bible says over and over, and God says, and then when this happens, then the nations will know that I am God, and beside me, there is no other.
There's been no nation that has been gone for 2,800 years.
Even the language is not pure, but it comes back instantly overnight.
The language purifies itself.
Now we have Hebrew spoken again as it was.
And now we have the nation of Israel there, powerful and strong.
Probably the superpower of the Middle East.
Now, that's because America and Great Britain backed them, but they also have plenty of power themselves, as they prove over and over again.
So there they are, surrounded by enemies all around.
Even people that call themselves friends have once been mortal enemies of them, including Jordan and Egypt.
All of those people attacked Israel in 1948.
All of them did.
So they're surrounded by these people.
That is huge.
And then the exponential explosion of technology.
Clearly, clearly prophesied by Daniel and by Jesus and by John the Revelator.
We're the first generation.
See, this is what I try to get across to people to see all of these things happening.
And just a few years ago, five, ten years ago, people say, yeah, but you know, Persia hasn't attacked them.
Gog and Magog hasn't attacked them in some onslaught.
Well, now they have.
And so, I mean, we just need to keep our eyes on Turkey because the last book of the Bible that speaks of last things, seven letters to seven churches to Turkey.
And so somehow Turkey's deeply involved in all of this, and we know many of the ways, don't have time to talk about them all already.
But they are becoming more and more in compact with Russia.
Russia's in deep connection with Persia, Iran.
China and Russia are now in deep connection with Iran.
I mean, we're just watching it unfold before our eyes.
So I'm just trying to generally, you know, I preach the whole Bible, Genesis to Revelation, and not just prophecy, but so much of what's happening today is absolutely prophetic right off the pages of the scriptures, relevant to our world.
Those are the things we need to be looking for.
The gospel is still exploding.
There's a great falling away.
There's a doctrine of demons that has infected entire denominations.
Whole denominations have become Israel haters.
Whole denominations don't know what a marriage is.
Whole denominations claim they don't know what a gender is, and they're all woke and going along with the conformity of the world.
And so that's happening right before our eyes.
But at the same time, there's a great incoming of Muslims are having Jesus dreams.
Jews are having Jesus dreams.
Zev's over there working in other ministries like his.
And Jewish people are coming to Jesus Christ.
Even in the midst of all this warfare and Gaza and Persia, they're finally coming to people like Zev and saying, tell us more about this Yeshua guy.
Tell us more because we don't seem to be hitting it here in Israel like we thought we were invincible.
And so this is happening.
So I think those are the kind of things that we need to always be aware of because we can say, what do we look for next?
And most of the church today would say, well, what we look for next is the building of a temple on the Temple Mount.
That's not true.
That's not in the Bible.
Jesus doesn't say it.
Paul doesn't say it.
John doesn't say it.
And I've proven this over and over in books.
And Zev and I've done interviews right here on this show.
We've spent hours talking about it, giving the scriptures, proving, letting people ask, well, what about this verse?
What about this verse?
What about this?
And then we show what it really means in context.
And people go, oh, my gosh, we've been deceived.
Yes.
So watch out for the deception.
Watch out for the doctrine of demons.
Keep your eyes on Turkey.
Keep your eyes on the Middle East and the nations of Ezekiel 38.
The technology continues to explode.
AI looks like it's going to be a part of Revelation 13 and be used in that.
We're going to have to be careful.
Listen, I tell you, we used a little funny thing in our church.
We're redoing the entire inside of our sanctuary, several, several hundreds of thousands of dollars, fixing it up so nice.
One of the things we did was we've got a digital wall up there and getting new pews and all that.
But anyway, so in the midst of it, we've told our people, don't be drinking and eating in here during worship and all of that.
I mean, you know, and they're not real bad about it, but some people do it.
And we said, we're spending all this money.
Let's take care of what we have.
Let's honor the Lord.
All right.
Well, just a couple of Sundays ago, we start with our announcements on our big digital wall and then we get into worship.
And from there on, it's all worship and in the word.
But in the announcement, the announcement started, and then it broke in with like a news break.
And it says an important word from the White House.
And there's Donald Trump behind his desk speaking to Hickory Hammock Baptist Church, talking about how great Pastor Carl is, and then talking about quit eating and drinking in the sanctuary, in the new sanctuary.
I'm going to have my food and drink police in the sanctuary on the day as you know.
And the people were dying laughing.
Even had Donald Trump saying names of our pastors and people who bring coffee in, saying their names.
The church went crazy.
It was all AI.
And it looked just like it is him.
And his mouth moved to the words.
You could not tell if you didn't know it was a joke, if you didn't know it was AI.
And then I used that in my sermon.
Not only was it a good teaching lesson for them, but in my sermon, I talked about AI and I showed the scriptures.
And then I said, you just saw it with your own eyes.
I'm telling you, most of the church doesn't get this, guys.
They don't hear it.
They hear three ways to be a better person, five ways to feel good about yourself, two ways that God will make you rich if you give to my ministry, and on and on.
That's what they hear.
I'm watching Israel right now.
And Israel and Syria are getting into it right now.
Really?
Watch Turkey.
Just like Pastor Carl said, Pastor Jim has been saying this since 1999 to watch Turkey.
Keep your eyes on the word.
Keep your eyes on Jesus.
Keep your eyes on what's happening with Israel.
Don't get deceived.
You know, we need a lot of voices, but at the same time, we need the right voices to help us interpret the times and the seasons that we're going through right now.
But don't ever forget this, that this is the time where we win souls.
It's where we go out and evangelize.
It's where we go out and really put the word in action, Ricky, and remind people that God sent his only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, to die for us.
And as we watch all these events, it's all leading so we can meet the king of kings one day and be with him and be in heaven.
And I want to tell you something.
Get your heart right with the Lord.
Don't allow your doubt and all these questions to enter into your heart because you're going to be deceived.
But when you know him and when you start reading his word, you get to know who he is, how he sounds, what he looks like.
Because if you're not aware of what he looks like in character in scripture and hear his voice, then something like AI can deceive you.
That's right.
My sheep know my voice.
Get to know him.
Accept him in your heart.
Repent from your sins.
Give up what you're struggling with and give it to him and allow the Holy Spirit to really convict your heart to get right with him and then get to know him.
He loves you.
And this program here, we're dedicated to bringing you not only revelation in the news and what's happening, but to remind you that Jesus died on the cross for you.
He's not trying to get even with you.
He got even with sin at the cross.
Now it's time to serve him.
Now it's time to give your life to him and trust him with everything that you have, even with your life.
Get to know him today.
This is the day that the Lord has made.
Amen.
Pastor Carl Gobbas, I want to say thank you for being on the broadcast with us.
I know you have a rigorous schedule.
You're writing books.
You're preaching.
You're ministering.
You're full-time pastor of a church and you're also evangelizing to the world that Jesus Christ is coming soon and that they should have a relationship with him.
So I want to say thank you for taking time out of your day to being, for being on the PTL Television Network and the Jim Baker family show.
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And if you're anywhere near Milton, Florida, we might just recommend Hickory Hammock Baptist Church.
Amen.
Pastor Carl Gallops, again, thank you so much.
We love that you have insight from a biblical perspective.
And friends, I don't want you to ever forget this as we continue to move forward and the world that we're living in.
God really loves you.
He's crazy about you.
He sent his only son to die on a cross for you.
Never forget that, how much he loves you.
He really does.
Bye-bye for today.
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