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May 7, 2025 - Jim Bakker Show
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The Jim Bakker Family Show with Steve Cioccolanti Part 2
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Signs of the Times 00:13:28
Welcome to the Jim Baker Family Show.
Today, Pastor Steve Cicalani discusses biblical prophecy and America's future.
Please welcome your co-hosts, Reverend Mondo de la Vega and Pastor Ricky Baker.
And here's your host, Pastor Jim Baker.
Welcome, everybody, to this very special time.
Jesus is coming soon.
I just want you to know that.
And we have one of the great, I feel he's a prophet of God, Pastor Steve Cikolani.
Amen.
He's a pastor of Discovery Church.
His program is, how many thousands watch that show?
Oh, my God.
Thousands.
Over 300,000.
And millions of people tune in on YouTube to watch and hear what he has to say.
And he airs on the PTL network twice a week.
We're going to be discussing the shaking of the nations, earthquakes, civil unrest, and the four horsemen.
Could you address those?
This is a little subject.
That's right.
Well, which one would you like first, Pastor Jim?
That's a lot of end time signs in one.
Yeah, just hit the end times.
Yeah, I think the shaking of the nations and earthquakes.
I think if we can start there.
Okay, so a lot of Americans may not be aware of the news that there was a major earthquake, 7.7 magnitude earthquake that killed thousands of people in Myanmar.
And the epicenter of that place, when you Google it, which is what I did, I googled the name.
It's Harkar Yin, which means nothing to us.
And in Burmese, we don't know what it means.
But Google thinks that it means oh my God.
And it's 7.7, which is, you know, a perfection, perfect sign.
It rattled a major city in Asia, which is Bangkok, Thailand.
And I was there during that time.
And I'm often there when major signs or international news events are happening.
And the Lord sent me there for that.
And I'm just telling people, you know, you need to have a plan B. If you're living in the cities, and I've told California a long time ago, many, many years ago, before the last fire and even the fire before, I said, you got to get out of the cities if you can.
Of course, if you're called of God to be there and you're going to stand your ground, serve God, of course, then God will bless you and protect you.
But if you can, you're going to have to watch out because Jesus says you're going to flee to the mountains.
And it doesn't mean you have to go all the way to Israel.
Wherever you are, God is saying in the end time, the mountains, the rural places, it's going to be less controlled, less chaotic.
People are going to not turn on each other.
You know, when that earthquake happened, it was not even in Thailand.
It just shook the capital city of Thailand.
And within an hour, all of the streets were gridlocked.
Like no cars are moving.
People had to walk.
Within an hour, the hospitals, every hospital in the city was cleared out.
So if you're giving birth, you're having an operation.
They rolled you out and they continued the operation of giving birth outside because they were scared the buildings would collapse.
And that wasn't even a big earthquake where Bangkok was.
So these are preludes of what's to come.
It's going to be very scary for people who don't know God.
It was very scary for people who didn't know God.
One of the buildings collapsed, which is like the equivalent of Doge, by the way.
It's called the State Audit Building.
They were building that building to be like Doge for Thailand to audit the corruption.
And it turns out that building was built under corruption because the steel that they were buying from China was not up to standard.
And so God's showing all of these corrupt things going on everywhere in the world.
Will people put it in the framework of the Bible where they understand God is warning us and giving us mercy to prepare to get out of these troubled spots as fast as we can and prep and get ready for the end time.
And meanwhile, tell everybody the Bible's true.
Prophecy is coming to pass.
Jesus is coming back.
Will we take the opportunity and get excited about prophecy and tell people about it?
Otherwise, they'll be so scared.
Wow.
I really want to hear more of the you know, the global events are unsettling to me.
That's right.
God is speaking to me in an unusual way.
I've had more downloads since I've been in bed.
I mean, God, God, don't worry if you have to go to bed and get some sleep.
God will speak to you.
Amen.
And he has told me things that I don't, I haven't told anybody.
I haven't even told my wife because I don't think they'll believe it.
I'm about to tell Mondo because he has seen.
I know, Steve, you're talking about earthquakes.
A few years ago, God gave me a word.
You know what?
You were there.
We were standing.
We were sitting right here.
And he told me there's going to be a nine-point earthquake in Japan.
Yeah.
Is that right?
Absolutely.
And what did the news say?
When the Fukushima, the whole situation happened, the reports came in that it was an 8.9, and you started saying, no, God spoke to me that it was a 9.0.
And that was days before the earthquake happened.
Yeah.
And once we saw that this earthquake had hit, they were still saying it was 8.9.
And you kept saying, no, God spoke to me that it was a 9.0.
And within minutes, the news came back and corrected themselves and said, no, we made a mistake, which is rare that they admit something like that, but they said it's a 9.0.
It's a big one.
So I believe God's word.
And I believe when God talks to me, and He's been telling me some of the things of the last days.
And I believe we are entering perilous times.
Are you specific scriptures that you believe are being fulfilled through these natural events in the world right now?
Pastor Jim, you've often quoted Matthew 24.
Let me read it out again: verse 7: For nation shall arise against nation, kingdom against kingdom, and there shall be famines and pestilences, diseases, and epidemics, and earthquakes in diverse places.
And these are the beginning of sorrows.
And these things intensify because as you look in the book of Revelation, you'll find at least six clear earthquake mega quakes in Revelation 6, 8, 11 twice, and 16 twice.
You got at least six different earthquakes predicted.
So definitely, when number one, when they get bigger, number two, they're more frequent.
Number three, when you have the ability of global communication to even be aware that these things are happening all in different places, which is what diverse places in King James means, it's happening globally.
How would you know that 2,000 years ago or 1,000 years ago or 500 years ago?
You couldn't.
You couldn't.
You couldn't even know it 100 years ago.
It's a sign of the last days that Jesus is coming soon.
And he calls it the birth pang.
So there's a couple of things about earthquakes.
Number one, they come because of hardened hearts.
Do you find the earth will open up or the earth will quake in judgment of hardened hearts, right?
And then number two, Jesus says it's like the contraction, like the earth is trying to give birth to something, which is the Redeem, and welcoming Jesus back as Lord and the King of this earth.
And so you find that that movement of the earth's cross mimics or is likened to the birth pang of a woman.
So clearly an end time sign, clearly a premonition or a warning of the hardened heart of man.
We've become so hard.
And God is trying to shake the heavens and the earth to get our attention to know this is one of the signs.
It's not the only sign, but it's one of the signs.
And you can't blame climate change.
That's what I like about earthquakes.
Not that I like the consequences, but I like the fact that the liars and the deceivers can't blame it on our carbon footprint and our driving gasoline cars.
And no, earthquakes are not being caused by humans.
It's a sign of the end time, just like Jesus predicted.
I'm looking at Matthew 24, which when you quote it, I have it open already.
And it says that you shall be hated and you shall hate one another and false prophets will arise and many are being offended and shall betray one another.
And, Ricky, I'm probably not allowed to talk about my past, but...
Talk about whatever you want.
I am the pioneer of the largest Christian TV network in the world.
That's right.
And it reached the whole world.
And every agency of government that I know of came after me.
And the judge put me in prison for 45 years.
That's how much they hated me.
And they hated the gospel.
And I had really had a big part of electing Ronald Reagan to the presidency.
And I brought massive preachers to his home and to the White House.
And so I understood the hatred.
And that's what the Bible says is going to happen.
And ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
Do you interpret that for what's it coming in the future?
Well, I want to say thank you, first of all, that you are one of the people who didn't believe the worldly adage of separation of church and state, and that you stood up for Ronald Reagan and helped many preachers and consequently their church members to realize that Jesus wants to affect the whole nation, not just have nice worship.
So thank you for paying the price for all of us.
We're all here using TV and media because you really were the pioneer for that.
And it's such an honor to be able to be on the same show with you.
It really is.
Unfortunately, the Bible predicts that there's going to be a lot more persecution.
And by the green horse, it's going to be outright beheading of Christians, incarceration, arresting.
And they're waiting for that.
If Trump had not won, Trump is like our new Reagan.
If Trump had not won, they're ready to jail us for daring to oppose anything.
Well, you know, oppose homosexual marriage, for instance, in Australia.
They have passed a law in the state of Victoria where if you insult someone based on religious belief, racial, obviously, they've got that on the books already.
But now even employment status, if you insult anyone on a list that is so hard to keep up with, they can put you in jail for seven years.
So that's what the globalists are preparing for.
The persecution is definitely fulfilling the scriptures.
But God has answered our prayers and brought another Reagan-esque leader who's an agent of justice, who's strong, who's trying to enforce peace through strength.
And thank God, we've got a bit of respite right now.
And we have freedom right now to preach the gospel.
So I encourage people to go out.
You know, go out.
Use this opportunity.
Preach to your neighbor.
Go out on missions.
Do as much as you can.
Do like what Pastor Jim Baker did, getting the word out every sphere.
Don't limit yourself.
I want you to be ready for what's coming.
Amen.
And I have food at my house.
Don't tell them where you live.
You do.
25-year shelf life.
Food Storage Solutions 00:03:48
That's right.
You've been preparing for two decades now.
I just, why not be ready?
Do you prepare?
Absolutely.
People prepare for all kinds of things.
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People are becoming so skeptical.
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We're going to come back with Pastor Steve to talk more about the signs and the end times and cultural things that are changing.
Could we have another civil war in America?
I don't know.
I want to hear what Pastor Steve has to say.
But first, let's watch this and we'll be back.
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Mondo, you've been in earthquakes.
Yeah.
The idea of standing in line for food doesn't exist.
No water, no communication.
It is chaos.
Do you believe the Bible?
100%.
And Matthew 24 is a guideline to the last time.
It's the end days.
And it talks about famine and pestilence and famines and earthquakes in diverse places.
And it's going to be great famine.
Why They Want To Kill Trump 00:11:33
Absolutely.
And I think this is a question for you, Pastor Steve, because when we have famine and we have earthquakes, what are the chances of experiencing civil unrest?
Do you believe that something like that can spark civil unrest?
Or what are we looking at when it comes to civil war in America, let alone other nations?
Let me pop in.
Just a plus of your question.
Do they think they're trying to kill our president, Mr. Trump?
He's probably the most wanted man to be killed.
And this is not natural.
No.
Could you address some of this unrest and all that's going on?
Well, interestingly, on our YouTube channel, we had a prediction about Trump being shot in the right ear four months before it happened.
So that was a prophecy that was watched 2 million times, and it was very accurate.
So Trump is the most hated man right now.
And they're going to try to either kill him or kill the economy within the next two years because you've got congressional elections or midterm elections coming up, and they cannot afford, and they, meaning the deep state, the bureaucrat state, the whoever you want to call the elites, they're going to have to try to take back the House and the Senate.
And people vote according to their pockets.
They don't always vote according to their biblical beliefs.
And so if they can kill him or kill the economy within the next two years, that's the plan.
And I think that's the plan of the World Economic Forum.
That's the plan of the Democrats.
And then they will succeed in causing inflation.
And that will be the beginning of civil unrest.
Of course, when people are hungry, it only takes about seven days and civilization just kind of collapses into barbarianism.
But I think that spiritually there's a missing ingredient.
One of the things that Trump has kind of stopped, that he's halted, is the attack against Israel and the dividing of the land of Israel.
So I believe that the order of things is first you have the inflation.
However, that comes, the inflation will come back.
Then you will have an administration, either a weakened administration or the next administration will divide Israel, which is their plan on halt right now.
It's on pause.
Once America agrees to that, America gets divided.
It's just the law of sowing and reaping.
So God's not going to allow it to happen until America really pushes over the edge and the law of harvest is going to come into play.
So Israel will get divided, then America gets divided.
And whatever America looks like, it becomes insignificant in Bible prophecy.
But my hope, my belief is as America becomes a remnant, maybe a smaller nation, maybe a weaker nation, it will also be a godlier nation.
Out of that, somehow there's going to be a digital dollar.
The digital dollar is going to come in and that paves the way to the Antichrist.
And so maybe America is not fully united when that happens.
Maybe some states say no, like Florida has already passed a law where I live.
Florida says Ron DeSantis as governor said, nope, we're not going to ever have the digital dollar.
Well, then maybe there are states that are exempt, but it's hard to know right now what that's going to look like when America's that divided.
What's your opinion on Iran?
I think they already have the bomb, but what's going to happen there?
Yeah, Iran's really smart about this because Trump is, unfortunately, Trump right now is all about the economy.
So he's treating the country like a big company.
And in some ways, that makes the Republicans happy.
But we as Christians have to realize that's not the biblical template.
You don't just run a country like a company.
It's good that he has all this wisdom in managing real estate companies.
But you only establish a nation on justice, on biblical justice.
And because he just wants to make deals and make economically good deals, like he doesn't want war, that means people die, consumers die, producers die.
He's now fallen into the trap of Iran biding their time.
They're just saying, oh, sure, we'd like to talk to you now.
Now that you're threatened to, you moved all the, you know, major aircraft carriers have moved into the region.
Lots of supplies for the military have moved into the region.
Israel's positioning to attack Iran and stop the nuclear program.
And that's the main reason.
They said, yeah, let's talk.
Let's talk.
Now we're good to talk.
But you know, according to Bible prophecy, that that talk is cheap.
And they're going to go ahead and try to destroy Israel.
And they're going to go ahead and actually develop nuclear weapons.
And so that's where I wish Trump would temper some of his great business acumen with humble discipleship.
He has to listen to God.
He has to learn God's word.
He has to know prophecy is being fulfilled.
And God put him in power for that.
So that area of discipleship, I just pray that there are significant voices in his life that's going to advise him what the Bible says.
So I think Iran is not going to talk and they're lying.
They're absolutely deceiving the president by saying, yeah, let's talk.
We should get rid of the nuclear program.
But, you know, Bible prophecy is going to be fulfilled.
They will have the nuclear bomb eventually.
I want to ask you a personal question.
If Trump asks you, would you go to the White House and give him what you give me?
Of course.
I mean, that's one of the main reasons that I left everything in Australia, sold my house, car, everything, and went to live in Florida just to be near him.
And I pray for him.
And I've had a couple of chances to be on stage with Eric Trump.
Actually, more than a couple.
Three times I've been on stage with Eric Trump.
But, you know, they come with security guards.
They're busy.
They're not listening.
They took my book, Trump's Unfinished Business, and people have tried to give it to them.
There's a whole template on what the Bible says to do.
He has to make a digital bill of rights.
Like, we're not going to have freedom of speech, freedom to vote.
The young generation is going to be deceived.
As soon as Trump's gone, all the big tech censorship is going to come back if we don't have a digital Bill of Rights.
So, he's got to look at prophecy.
He's got to look at freedom of speech, which goes with the ninth commandment.
You shall not defame, you should not lie, you should not bear false witness.
All this is happening online.
Yeah, I would love the opportunity to say it to him for sure.
This is powerful, right?
What he's saying.
I'm going to try my best.
I know people who know people who know people.
And I used, Trump called me and talked to me 20 minutes.
Yeah.
And I really believe you need to talk to the president.
Yeah.
He needs not preachers.
He needs biblical scholars.
Talk to him and prophets.
Yeah.
There's a difference between prophets and preachers.
And I believe that there's a word.
Those Old Testament, I mean, old-time prophets are something else.
Absolutely.
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We need to hear more from Steve.
We need to hear more about what's happening.
And I want to tell you something.
The landscape of Christian television is changing fast, but I want to tell you something.
We're going to move with it, Mondo.
We are going to move with it, and we need you to stand with us.
Ricky, one day you're going to talk about what God is speaking to you about, the future of this network and where we're going.
Exciting things are happening.
Do you know what the Bible says?
Tell me.
The devil is the prince of the power of the air.
No wonder we fight against this so much.
And I'm telling you, I know some things that I haven't told yet.
I haven't told anybody.
Yeah.
I'm trying to tell Rick Mondo, but I don't know if he can't take it or not.
But big things are going to happen in the end times.
And we've got to stay on the air.
Yeah, we do.
And they'll wheel me in here.
That's right.
Amen.
I'll tell you what I hear from God.
That's what we want to know more than anything.
Absolutely.
And a lot of people don't like to hear from God, but I hear from God.
Yeah.
I don't care what anybody says.
They think I'm crazy anyway.
But I hear from God, and that's all I want to hear is God.
Yeah.
And I study, I learned things, and I study the Bible.
Oh, my God, Lord, help us.
And the world is taken a lot of Bible stories and made movies of them.
And they're adding to it, Ricky.
That's right.
Well, the Bible warns about adding to the scriptures.
That's right.
And so we got to be careful.
Yeah.
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We are on the brink of a miracle and we're almost there.
And we need you to continue.
And thank you for standing with us.
Thank you for praying with us.
And listen, Ricky and I are committed to bringing dad here with us, whether he likes it or not.
We're going to go get him because we need to hear from him.
As long as you cut my hair and shave my beard.
Which is true.
When I walk in the door, I look like an unshaven man.
And well, you look like you've been in the mountains too long.
Mindo.
Mindo spruces me up.
So when you got a family, you can do all things with Christ to strengthen us.
Amen.
We did it.
We have to go.
And remember, God loves you.
Amen.
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