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May 7, 2025 - Jim Bakker Show
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The Jim Bakker Show with Steve Cioccolanti Part 3
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Turkey's Role in Prophecy 00:05:57
Welcome to the Jim Baker Family Show.
Today, Pastor Steve Ciccolani discusses biblical prophecy and America's future.
Please welcome your co-hosts, Reverend Mondo de la Vega and Pastor Ricky Baker.
And here's your host, Pastor Jim Baker.
Hello, everybody.
We have with us, and can I call him a prophet?
Because I think this man prophesies things that come true.
A prophetic.
That's how you know a prophet if his prophecies come true.
That's right.
And Steve, we're so happy to have you with us.
And you have a major church, but you're doing it in modern technology.
Absolutely.
Listen, we got to stay with the times.
Technology is changing.
The way people are consuming information is changing.
Listen, you think 30 minutes is short.
People are consuming information in two minutes, 60 seconds.
It's changing the way we're delivering information.
But I want to tell you something.
With so much happening, you want to know from God's word what is happening.
What does the Bible have to say?
Ricky, the illiteracy in the church today is rampant like never before.
What's your take as a young pastor?
How do you pastor a church in a time like this?
Yeah, you just have to say in the word, and that's the issue is 5% of our country right now really believes the full tenets of the word of God and that is an issue.
And we have even less than that.
45?
5%.
And a lot, you know, I've read a study just the other day that even less than that.
We're about 3% can defend their faith.
So if they were asked hard questions from the Bible and, you know, asked for a biblical perspective of why they believe what they believe, less than about 4% of people could actually defend their faith or give an account for what they believe.
We have to stay in the word.
We're going to talk about an unusual subject today.
Yes.
And we're going to talk about aliens and AI and the Antichrist and discerning the times.
Yes.
Now, there's a lot about aliens.
There's a lot about supernatural.
Yeah.
Listen, I do want to say this before we go.
We want you to, if you want to learn more about AI, Antichrist, and aliens, and what does the Bible have to say, Ricky, they can still go to readynowexpo.com, sign up, and be a part of the conference that we just filmed because we have a lot of experts that were on the panel discussing issues through a biblical lens.
And I can't wait for Pastor Steve to discuss this topics through his point of view on what he finds in scripture about what it says.
Also, you can go to readynowexpo.com.
You can see all the conference we just did on these three subjects as well.
But before we jump into asking him questions, I want to ask him a quick question because he has a tour coming up and I want him just to talk about that.
You actually have several tours coming up, Pastor Steve.
Talk about some of those things that you're going to be doing.
I know one of them is the seven churches of Revelation tour in Turkey.
I might have to put my vacation time in there.
I want to talk about it.
You have to host the show.
I'm going.
No.
I'm going to go with you.
Mondo's going to carry the boat alone.
I got to carry him and shave his beard.
Pastor Steve, tell us about it.
You're doing the seven churches revelation tour in Turkey.
You're also doing a Thailand Goshen tour, Saudi Arabia tour in 2026.
Tell us about that and where people can go find more information.
Well, I'm giving a personal invitation to Ricky and Mondo to come with me.
Climb the Mount Sinai, the real Mount Sinai in Saudi Arabia, okay?
That's 2026.
But if you want to take a nice holiday and just get refreshed, we're doing all those tours.
We're actually starting with a European cruise.
I've been up to Iceland the moment Trump talked about Greenland, Iceland, its neighbor.
I went up there and checked it out.
And it actually helped me understand some things about end time prophecy.
So we've got a cruise from Iceland, Norway, and some other European countries coming up first.
Then I think it's the Turkey tour, which is the seven churches of Revelation.
That just tells you right there where the main actors are going to be.
It's going to be the Middle East, and Turkey is going to play a prominent role.
And also, Paul, a lot of his missionary journeys in the book of Acts happen in the nation of Turkey.
So Turkey is a unique nation.
It's not Arab, it's its own culture, language, food.
Very fascinating.
We're going to do Turkey all around.
And we're also going to do the, oh, you know, something that we have never done before that I should mention, we're going to do a Christian singles only tour to the great state of Oman.
Oman is a very religiously tolerant, beautiful country in the Middle East.
And we just want to pull singles out from all their different routines and just meet great people, fellow believers, like-minded believers, just to give them a chance to get discipled and also meet up with good people.
That's going to happen.
I think that's October.
And then November, the last one for this year is the Thai Goshen tour.
We talk about Goshen, just like Pastor Jim prepares one in Missouri.
I think there's going to be pockets of Goshens where it will be safe, no matter what kind of famine, global famine, global turmoil coming.
I've gone all around the world looking for Goshens.
You know, it's the biblical term for a safe place when the 10 plagues come.
So all of that you can come see.
Apparitions And Aliens 00:15:50
I'll be there.
I'll be with you personally.
I'll disciple, read the Bible with you, share passages of scripture with you, answer questions.
We always have a great time.
And I just feel this is a good year to do it.
So we're going to do all that.
Thank you for mentioning that.
And it's a sincere invitation.
If Pastor Jim wants to come, he can come as well.
Come on.
And I just want to make sure that's discovered.
That's discover.org.au forward slash tour.
We're going to put it up on the screen.
You can go and check out all the different things that I'm showing.
I was going to say, Mondo's going to take him up on that.
Come on.
I'm putting my vacation time right now.
This is the one who has to approve it.
So we're going to find out if he approves it.
We've got a lot of questions to ask.
This is a little show we have.
So let's get started with artificial intelligence and biblical prophecy.
I want to know aliens and deception in the last days.
There is so much talk about aliens.
Yeah, there is.
What do you have to say?
Well, the Bible starts talking about aliens in the sense of the aliens that you don't want to meet.
There are, of course, other aliens.
They're good angels out in outer space, right?
They're good angels.
I believe that there's life in space.
You know, the Lord Jesus is not on this planet.
God the Father is somewhere else.
So they're good aliens in that sense, life forms that are not on earth, but they're also wicked spirits and they're the prince of the power of the air.
They're in outer space as well.
And there are many scriptures that talk about this.
But the first one would be when there was an incursion on the earth and the Nephilim came and produced these giants on the earth.
So we go back to Genesis to get an idea that strange things have happened before and it produced these hybrid, you know, genetic hybrids.
And we're back in that same, you know, same wickedness where people want to tamper with humans.
And now they're combining AI and they want to put neural chips into your brain.
So that may be in the end part of the mark of the beast.
So two different topics, actually.
There's AI rising up at the same time, artificial intelligence.
And then there's this great deception of we were not created by God according to them, but by some alien.
But that doesn't answer any question because then who created the aliens?
The Bible also talks about, you know, there shall arise false Christ and false prophets that shall show great signs and wonders.
And we have, you know, false prophecies and false prophets of other religions.
But what if it's actually false prophets from outer space?
Because they are very religious.
You know, when you talk about these aliens and the people who follow them, they tend to deny God.
They deny the biblical account of creation.
They deny our accountability to God.
So these things are spirit beings, aren't they?
They're not just natural beings that are neutral about Christianity and neutral about the Bible.
They seem to always be on the attack against one religion.
So that alone tells you the one standout person and the one standout religion is Jesus Christ and Christianity.
And they're always against it when they encounter these aliens.
Wow.
Wow.
It's fascinating.
Amen.
Have you seen any TV shows where they're talking about aliens all the time?
All the time.
And listen, the more I'm discovering the headlines, the more this information is coming to the forefront.
But this is my question.
Most of us Christians don't have the Bible literacy to understand what does that mean?
You know what God showed me?
Tell me.
The devil is the prince of the power of the air.
Absolutely.
He's in charge of the air right now for some reason.
I don't know why God let him have rain, but he did.
And God's going to defeat the devil.
Absolutely.
But I'm concerned that there's a really last day deception.
On one show, I want to go deeper in it because God has really shown me some things about the last day.
Well, listen, L.A. Marzulli believes in the great deception is coming through aliens.
And Pastor Steve, again, different pastors, different people, they stand in different understandings on what that means.
But how should Christians approach the topic of aliens in light of biblical teaching?
Well, I think you have to present yourself as open-minded, right?
When people say, could there be life in outer space?
I think, first of all, you have to say, yeah, of course, there's a possibility.
But in the back of my mind, I'm thinking about the Lord Jesus Christ and the angels like Michael and Gabriel.
This is life in outer space.
And then you can draw them in and say, but some of this life in outer space, they don't mean good to you.
They mean harm.
And there's been this spiritual, you can say intergalactic war going on for the souls of men for eons.
So be very careful.
The Bible says in 2 Corinthians 11, verse 14, and no marvel for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Therefore, it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as ministers of righteousness whose end shall be according to their works.
So there is coming a great deception.
I agree with L.A. Marzulli.
I don't know if it's going to be the same as back in, you know, the Nephilim days, because Satan has tried that and he got judged very severely.
And those angels are even, they're in Tartarus, those who had actually had sexual relations with the daughters of men.
So whatever encounter, you know, a lot of people say they've encountered aliens.
And so I would listen to them.
But then I would ask, well, then how does that improve your life?
And what did that alien being say and do?
And it ends up being spiritual.
So you need to guide them back to, you know, these are not the creator.
This is not the creator God.
We still are sinners who need salvation through Jesus Christ.
So be very careful if you have such an encounter.
LA has done research on this.
And actually, I've interviewed someone in Australia who's done great research, one of the best-selling books about alien abductions.
And he told me in an interview that one of the things they found out was there's a class of people who don't ever seem to get abducted by aliens.
And he said even the researchers, they weren't Christian, but they found out born-again Christians seem to be exempt.
So what does that mean?
It's not biological beings from another planet.
This is a spiritual war.
Elon Musk has also said something interesting that he's got more satellites out there than any private individual and any private company on Earth.
He's got eyes in the sky, literally.
And he says, one thing he can guarantee is they've never caught any spaceship, any vehicle coming from outer space into the Earth.
So that means all the alien abductions, all the UFO sightings, whatever they call it now, you UAPs, they originate from the air, from our atmosphere.
So they've not caught on any satellite an entrance from outer space into our territory.
It originates from here.
So these things beg the question.
We believe there are apparitions.
We believe there are unexplained phenomena.
But where is it originating from?
Just like the Bible says, it's coming from the prince of the power of the air.
And in the end, it wants to deceive you from knowing your creator and being saved by the only Redeemer, Jesus Christ.
Wow.
Wow.
Listen, you gotta, can I show them this?
You gotta watch this because we talked about the difference between celestial beings and extraterrestrial beings.
We want you to watch this.
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We'll be right back with more with Pastor Steve if you want to hear more about it.
So watch this and we'll be back.
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Wow.
Exactly what God just showed me this week.
The devil is the prince of the power of the air.
That's right.
And there's people seeing things in the sky.
And God is telling me, and that's why I think his program needs to stay on the air because where else do they run programs like this, Rick Mondo?
That's right.
They're not.
And this is why we're urging you this month to stand with us.
Call the number today, 1-888-988-1588.
Stand with us.
We need your support.
This is a very crucial time that we're in.
There's a shift that has taken place.
I'm believing God for a thousand people to give $1,000.
Absolutely.
This is the hour.
And I want to tell you something.
We need a miracle because this little ministry is going to go off the air, but we're the only ones that are really putting it on a lot of people that are.
Yeah.
And I think I wish you would know how much we get hit.
I wish you would understand the opposition that has come to this ministry the last 15 years.
You will not believe it.
Can I ask, can I tell you this?
Professionals have told us you should not be existing right now.
How in the world does the Jim Baker show and the ministry are still there?
Only God and you is the reason why we're still here.
And it's a miracle because experts have said you guys should have been done six months ago, two years ago, five years ago.
We don't understand why you guys are still on the air.
How is it working?
How is it happening?
We need the analytics.
We want the reports.
Well, the report is that God wants us here.
And the report is that our partners are still standing with us.
And I'm glad that you're still here.
There's only a few programs that bring the prophets and truth to the network.
And not censor them.
I think, Ricky, you have to go back and say that because a lot...
Haven't you gone to churches and they tell you you can't preach on this?
Certain, yes.
Certain topics they don't want to preach from the pulpit because they say they're political issues, but they're Bible issues that we preach about.
So, you know, you can't censor the gospel.
I've been on a lot of shows, interviewed by a lot of different shows, and they have asked me not to talk about certain things.
This show, this network is the only network that does not censor our guests.
We don't censor ourselves, as you can tell.
But I want to tell you something.
There's a price to pay when you censor.
And I believe that Pastor Steve has something to say.
Mr. Steve, I want you to talk about aliens.
I know that's crazy, but people talk about it in the world.
What do you think aliens are?
Well, I prepped it by saying that the sons of God had made an intrusion on the daughters of men in the Bible.
So it's not a strange thing that there are invaders that come from another realm, maybe another dimension is what you'd like to say.
And I think that these are hostile.
These are hostile because they abduct people.
They do physical experiments and probes, which I don't want to say more than what that probing means, but they're not nice.
They're not good.
You'd have to say if they come and they want you to deny Jesus, they want you to believe things against the Bible, I would call that a demonic experience.
And it's going to intensify as we get towards the end.
Clearly, the Bible says it's going to be such an intense deception, and people are, men's hearts will fail for fear of what's coming down upon the earth.
So it sounds like something is coming from the atmosphere.
So that's, you know, demons, the prince of the power of the air, as Pastor Jim has said.
Wow.
Mano, tell us what time Steve's show is on my network.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
So I want you to tune in today to hear Pastor Steve Chicalante's program because I believe that you're going to get a lot of information.
But tune in Tuesdays at 10 p.m. Eastern Time and Sundays at 3 p.m. Eastern Time.
Wow.
Steve, I believe is a prophet of God.
I've never heard anybody give it as straight as he does.
Yeah.
That's why I believe in him.
And I wish he'd come here and move to us.
He is really hearing from God and he knows the word of God.
And the Antichrist and emerging technologies.
Yeah.
How do you connect all of this with the rise of global technology with the emergence of the Antichrist?
You see any connection there?
Oh, yeah.
All of us who've been studying the book of Revelation, we know this was prophesied 2,000 years ago in Revelation 13.
Revelation's Independent Agent 00:05:00
But, you know, Bible prophecy, it's hard to guess how it's going to be fulfilled until it gets fulfilled.
And that's the proof that nobody doctored it, nobody made it up.
It was really inspired by God because we couldn't figure it out until it happened.
Revelation 13 describes what I think all the audience is going to understand.
Check this out.
Revelation 13, verse 15.
I'll just read one verse.
It's all good there in chapter 13.
It talks about the beast, the mark of the beast.
There are actually two beasts.
And here's what happens: it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast.
And think about today, all we do is watch images.
All the kids are on phones and tablets.
We're watching, you know, the audience is watching an image of us right now.
So we're in the image age.
And the Antichrist will give power or give breath to the image of the beast so that the image of the beast might even speak and might cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain.
So it's something that is an image, right?
And suddenly it gets the ability to speak.
And we would say by extension that it's thinking, right?
It's speaking for itself.
Now, listen to what Yuval Noah Harari, whom I believe is the best candidate for the false prophet, spoken of in Revelation 13.
I believe he's the guy.
Listen to how he speaks about artificial intelligence right now.
And it says in the Bible, remember, artificial intelligence is going to eventually decide to kill those that, you know, don't follow the beast.
Here's what Harari said: quote, and this is from his book, Nexus, which Christians are reading.
It's unbelievable.
Quote, knives and bombs do not themselves decide whom to kill.
They are dumb tools, lacking the intelligence necessary to process information and make independent decisions.
In contrast, AI can process information by itself and thereby replace humans in decision making.
AI isn't a tool, it's an agent.
So think about it.
It's not a tool of ours, he says.
It's an independent agent that's smarter than us to do what?
He just compared it to weapons.
That weapons have been our tool.
But now AI is not going to be like a tool, a military tool.
It's going to be its own sentient agent.
That's what Revelation 13 said.
How would we even know what he was talking about, what God was talking about, until a guy like Noah Harari comes?
Even if you invent something that could think for itself, good people would not have thought, hey, let's just make it into an independent thinking agent, weapon, so it can decide who to kill.
So you remove morality, you remove the human agent, and I think that's how they're going to justify killing millions of Christians in the end time, is they say, oh, no, it's not us.
It's an independent AI decision.
And AI has to compute, you know, well, who's holding up the unity of all religions?
Who's holding up the globalization of the whole world?
Who's not accepting all the different types of love with beasts and children and all sorts of perversion?
Who's doing that?
Well, Christians.
And AI will make an independent decision, behead these Christians.
So certainly the Bible is ahead of its time.
Certainly, whoever wrote the Bible knew technology way beyond the science of that time.
Who is that?
That's God.
So we're very excited by the fact that prophecy is being fulfilled, but of course, it's terrifying if you don't know Jesus.
It's terrifying if you don't know your future.
So you need to come and not only just believe some parts of the Bible, believe the whole Bible, the main story that Jesus Christ came to rescue us sinners from even destroying ourselves.
And he is the Savior.
As we say goodbye, what hope do we have as we're hearing all of this?
What is our hope?
Our hope right now is, of course, in the word of God, that it was able to predict all these things ahead of time and to prove all things, right?
The Bible says in 1 Thessalonians 5, verse 21, what the devil is trying to do is to get you not to think.
Make AI think for you.
Allow it to take away even your vote.
You know, they were hoping that AI and algorithm would influence people in voting in the last election.
It didn't work yet.
So prove all things, the Bible says, and hold fast what is good, right?
Begin to think for yourself again.
And nothing is better for your brain and for your heart than reading the Bible and getting to know Jesus personally.
I Trust In The Lord 00:02:21
And I would add that it's a time where the church has not been prayed up, spiritually prayed up in terms of speaking in other tongues.
And that seems controversial to some churches.
I don't know why it's in the book of Acts.
So I would encourage you, in these days, you're not going to know everything.
You can't figure out which plane to go on, not go on, which city might get hurt and all that.
Where the earthquake's going to be.
I just trust in the Lord as I spend time with him and speak in tongues.
I trust you'll put me in the right place at the right time with the right people.
And so far, that's always worked.
And I've been in the middle of chaos and catastrophe, and I and my family have been protected.
So I believe that's the power of praying in tongues and knowing the Holy Spirit personally.
People don't stand with us.
We can't stand there.
We have no commercials.
Yeah.
So we have to have support from the people.
And so we need a thousand people to give $1,000 to save this ministry.
And I've been there before.
That's right.
My God, how long has I been on the air?
60 years?
65 years.
And I've never seen the righteous forsaken or a seed out begging for bread.
And I believe God wants to keep this program on the air because nobody brings the guests that you bring.
Nobody.
Amen.
I told you well.
Yeah, I have.
I'm just going off the blueprint.
Well, I want to really thank Steve today.
Chicolone.
Chicolante.
Absolutely.
We have to go.
I wanted to ask Steve, how many stations is he on?
Well, he's on social media platforms primarily.
Yeah.
You've got to hear his show.
It's on our network.
So watch it again.
Tuesdays and Sundays.
Remember, God loves you.
He really does.
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