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May 8, 2025 - Jim Bakker Show
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The Jim Bakker Show with Steve Cioccolanti Part 4
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Biblical Prophets and Tours 00:09:13
Welcome to the Jim Baker Family Show.
Today, Pastor Steve Ciccolani discusses biblical prophecy and America's future.
Please welcome your co-hosts, Reverend Mondo de la Vega and Pastor Ricky Baker.
And here's your host, Pastor Jim Baker.
Welcome, everybody.
And Pastor Steve Cicolani is back with us today and don't miss a minute.
Steve, could you say hello, please?
Hello from Australia.
It's very early morning here and it's such an honor to be with you, Pastor Jim.
What time of night is that at your place right now?
I mean, where you are?
Well, it's about 4 a.m.
Oh my God.
What are you doing preaching in the middle of the night?
You're instant in and out of season, huh?
It's my mandate.
Got to preach in season, out of season.
Wake people up.
Literally, we got to wake people up.
I want to ask you a different question.
How many cities, countries have you been in in the last few years?
Well, I think my son counts about 55 countries.
I'm not sure if Antarctica counts, but we went to Antarctica recently and worship, led a whole team of people to go and worship and get discipled, sailed around Antarctica.
That was one of our recent tours.
How old is your son?
He's 13.
Oh, that's a smart age.
Oh, he's my father.
Sure, glad to have you on the show today.
And this is one of the shows that carries the prophets.
And I feel that you have a prophetic message to the world.
So are you going to talk about his tour?
Yeah, he's going to be doing a bunch of tours.
I was going to ask him at the beginning if he could tell us what tours he's taking because I know there's well there's four different tours.
I know there's one that's the seven churches of Revelation tour in Turkey and you've been talking about doing that for probably two decades now and Pastor Steve's going to take people on that.
So Pastor Steve, tell us about the four different tours you're going to be doing with your people and how can people be a part of this?
You're going to just go to Turkey.
Tell me what the place Turkey has in the Bible.
Amen.
Well, I mean, the book of Ephesus is in Turkey.
It's written to, you know, one of the seven churches of Revelation.
In fact, the church that's mentioned the most is the Ephesian church.
That is in Turkey.
Galatia is a region in Turkey where Paul went.
A lot of his first churches, first Christian churches among the Gentiles are in present-day Turkey called Asia Minor in the Bible.
And all seven churches that Jesus said, he said, send these letters to the churches in Asia.
And there, it was just, you know, as soon as you leave Europe, it's called Asia.
All of them are in Turkey.
So I think that's itself a macro clue as to the big player and where the Antichrist is going to come from in the end times.
So Turkey is very important.
However, it's not yet going to fulfill that role like this month or this year.
So it's a great time to go.
The food is great.
The culture is great.
They're a unique people group.
They're not like the Arabs.
They're not Arabs.
They're not Persian.
They're their own people group with their own distinct language.
It's fascinating.
And I've gone to Turkey a couple of times and I just love it.
And I want to bring people to follow the footsteps of Paul and see where the book of Revelation is.
A lot of the churches are destroyed, of course, because of the Islamization of Turkey.
It once was one of the major centers of Christianity, but it no longer is.
When God gave me a great download a few years ago, he said, watch Turkey.
Now, why should I watch Turkey, do you think?
Absolutely.
Well, just for that macro clue, that every church that Jesus wrote a letter to, like all the other epistles, Peter or Paul wrote them, right?
But Jesus penned seven letters to seven churches.
And his clue is, and by the way, they go geographically, they go in clockwise order as well.
So it's like a countdown, those churches.
And they're all in Turkey.
So God's given us a big clue.
The Antichrist is very likely to come from, number one, the Middle East, but number two, Turkey or I would say Syria.
Those are the two biggest candidates.
So we're looking at those two.
And Turkey is right now very hostile against Israel.
And they have persecuted and hurt Christians, killed Christians there, but not among tourists.
Okay.
So tourists are very free to go and it's considered safe to go.
Now, I don't have Mondo unless he goes with me.
Hold my hand.
Help me.
Because I'm not stable.
Okay.
I'm 85 years old and I've had seven strokes in the last year, two years.
And I would like to go on one of these tours.
I would love to go to Turkey and walk in the footsteps of Paul.
That would be wonderful to have you.
Do you take cripples on your tour?
I have taken an 82-year-old climbing Mount Sinai in Saudi Arabia.
You're going to Arabia.
Jem's singles to, oh, I can't go on that.
My wife will not like that.
And that's going to the Middle East, right?
To Oman, yeah.
There's a big issue about singles, and the Bible tells us, like in the book of Judges, when the Benjamites could not find wives, it was like a big responsibility, a big duty for the other tribes to find wives for the Benjamites.
It was a big responsibility for Naomi to find a wife for Ruth.
So I feel that we as leaders have to address this problem.
We've got falling marriage rate, falling fertility rate.
It's a crisis in a lot of nations.
And so I feel it's a mandate on us to try to facilitate that.
We're not matchmaking.
We're not conducting mass weddings.
We're just saying come and get disciple.
And Oman is a beautiful, safe place in the Middle East.
You'll just love it.
You'll enjoy it.
So sign up at discover.org.au, not the website that's above my head, but discover.org.au slash tour is where you can explore all the different tours all through this year, all the way to next year.
We've got Saudi Arabia coming up again.
So you're going to go to Goshen?
That's right, the Thailand Goshen tour as well.
Tell us about that.
Well, I mean, Thailand is an amazing country, unique.
The word Thai means free.
So Thailand means land of the free.
It was barely touched in World War I, World War II.
It's like the Switzerland of Asia.
So I go around the world as I count around 50 odd countries and I'm looking for Goshens all the time.
Where would be safe if there's a World War III?
Where would there be food, abundance, safety, good people?
And Thailand's one of those candidates for sure.
And it's so far for Americans and it speaks a foreign language.
It's kept a lot of the globalism out.
And that's an advantage.
People think that's a disadvantage.
You're going far.
Well, that's an advantage to me in the times of turmoil.
I think our job is to focus on saving America, but it doesn't hurt to have a second passport.
Doesn't hurt to have a second home somewhere else.
And Thailand is one of the most affordable places on the planet right now, especially where we will take you and show you.
Very, very cheap for Americans to get a one-story home, two-story home, little plot, and be in a Christian community.
So, God's led me to partner up with a Thai businessman, and we're building the first Christian community in a 99% unsaved nation, first Christian community.
It's never been done before.
Wow, that's wonderful.
And then you have a tour to Saudi Arabia.
Is that true?
That's right.
Well, that's where a lot of the events of Exodus happen, and people don't know that, but we found the blackened top of Mount Sinai, where the Ten Commandments were given to Moses, and it changed the world.
The Bedouins who walk around there call it Jabal al-Musa.
They call it, that's Moses Mountain.
We'll take you to Jethro's Cave.
We'll take you to the well where Moses met Zipporah.
We can take you to Elim, where the, you know, the 70 palm trees and 12 wells are.
Like everything just matches.
At the base of Mount Sinai, the real Mount Sinai in Arabia, there's actually a remnant of a golden calf altar.
It's all there.
Core Message of End Times 00:09:27
It's all there.
It's really amazing.
And it changes the way that you read the book of Exodus for sure.
And I've had significant miracles happen to me.
I've climbed it four times, the top of Mount Sinai.
Moses went up seven times.
And that's from his 80s onward.
He went up.
And significant miracles, like unexplainable breakthroughs, happened twice in my life after I reached the top and I just made a vow to God or did a prophetic act.
Really, truly amazing.
I believe you can just pray anywhere in the name of Jesus and yet God asks us to go to certain places to meet him.
And he likes that.
He likes the fact that we would take a step of faith to travel for him.
You have a message called end times.
And give me some high points of that message, would you?
Well, end time, I have such a simple summary of end time.
And the American church has reduced end time to a debate about the rapture and the timing of the rapture and which position you take on the rapture.
And I just, you know, I barely ever touch it.
I've produced maybe a thousand videos over 25 years.
And we have five, a hundred thousand followers on social media.
And I barely touch it.
End time is very simply justice time.
All the rights, all the wrongs will get righted.
All the pains will get healed, right?
And all the crimes will get found out and punished.
And so just, it's justice time.
That's why Jesus is coming back not as Savior, but as judge.
And he's asking us to participate in that.
So we don't update our theology from very hyper grace, hyper, you know, one-sided righteousness, compassion, love, and all that.
The enemy is now using all of that against us because we said God is only love.
They say, well, love is love.
And that means love anybody.
Jesus would approve of that.
We forgot justice.
We forgot justice.
And that's how the government became so corrupt.
And, you know, when Elijah came, right, before the coming of the Messiah, the spirit of Elijah is supposed to come.
Well, he was a prophet who confronted civil authority, didn't he?
And then John the Baptist came in the spirit of Elijah and he confronted civil authority.
What's that?
He's bringing them to justice, to God's divine justice.
And not in some arrogant way, but in a loving way.
So the first message about end time is since God is coming to judge and he's asking us to be, you know, co-judges with him in 1 Corinthians 6, he says, don't you know we're going to judge the angels?
The first principle of justice that I put in my book, Get Prayers Answered, okay?
I have all sorts of prayers answered when I change my prayer to pray for justice.
The first principle is if you're going to participate in justice, pray down justice, you cannot be unjust yourself.
And this is why you're seeing all the strange hidden crimes and weird perversions of the church leadership.
They're getting exposed.
They're getting punished.
And people have a chance to repent and make it good.
But the principle is God will not bring judgment.
And you should not call down judgment unless you are just yourself.
So we got to teach the church again to be just.
You got to keep your word.
You got to be an example to your kids.
You can't be a hypocrite.
You can't say, do as I say.
You got to do as I do.
So all of that needs to get rectified.
It's a real purification of the church.
And to me, that's the core of the message of end time.
It's not the end of the world as in there's nothing else to look forward to.
There's so much to look forward to.
And one of the great things is he's withheld judgment as something like a mature topic towards the end.
And it's time for us to do that.
Can I mention why I think the American church is not on this topic yet?
And we have to come and prophesy and tell them to wake up to biblical justice.
I think that the world is crying out for justice and America is crying.
And why is there no justice?
You know, it says that people cry out on the street because there's no justice.
First, the church has abandoned its role in government, totally abandoned its role.
And as I said, Elijah wasn't afraid to confront civil authority.
John the Baptist wasn't afraid.
It's like we, only we, the church, seem to be afraid.
Number two, the church has believed in this worldly slogan, separation of church and state.
And I know, Pastor Jim, you didn't believe that.
You were friends with Ronald Reagan and you helped him win.
It's not in the Constitution to believe that.
It's not in the Bill of Rights and it's not in the Bible.
Why do we believe this lie?
Number three, I think Jesus gave us a big end time sign.
He says in Matthew 24, verse 14, and this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world as a witness to all nations, and then the end will come.
So what does the church emphasize?
A gospel of salvation, a gospel of my benefits, but not the gospel of the kingdom.
So God's waiting for the gospel of the kingdom.
That means you are king.
You are co-regent with Christ.
He's coming back to rule and reign, but he's coming back also to judge.
And I think, well, I'm going to just say one more is Revelation chapter one says that Christ has made us kings and priests unto our God.
And we hardly have trained anybody to rule as a king.
We even tell them to stay away from politics as if that's holier.
So my message about the end time is all about this, is that God is looking for just people.
That's what he's always looked for when he saved Noah, the one guy in the world.
He had one description.
He was a just man.
He was a just man.
God is looking for just people in the end time.
And if you're that just person, you're pure in your heart, you try to be just in your dealing with other people, God will promote you.
And that's why I think Trump came up.
It's not that he's the picture of a model Christian.
It's that he is a just person and he's now gone through the grinder of the lawfare that has been waged against him.
So he has a heart for justice.
I'm going to read one scripture, Micah chapter 6, verse 8.
This tells you the whole message, what God is looking for in the end time.
He has told you, oh man, what is good.
And what does the Lord require of you?
But to do justice.
And then you temper that with to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.
Micah chapter 6, verse 8.
That's the core of my message.
And I can craft that into any almost any event, any world event, any topic churches want to invite me to talk about.
I always come back to justice.
Wow, that's fabulous.
And I know you talk about preparedness.
And I've been a preparedness preacher for years.
And I'm not supposed to say this, my wife ace hit when I tell it, but we have a basement full of survival food.
But preparedness through a biblical lens.
You've emphasized the importance of preparing with essentials like food and water and so on.
How does this align with biblical teaching on readiness?
Well, think about what Joseph did.
He not only prepared to save Pharaoh, which is a Gentile nation, right?
He's a Gentiles.
He wasn't a God worshiper.
But through his wisdom, through his faith in the Lord, he gave a 14-year economic forecast that not only saved just him, but also the Gentiles who were yet to believe, right?
And then his Jewish family who were yet to believe.
So he's a perfect picture of Jesus Christ and preparing not only for ourselves, but for our neighbors.
So I think that in the end, preparedness means being in the right community.
You're not going to survive alone.
You're not going to have enough guns, bullets, food.
You're going to need a community of people that are trustworthy.
And the most trustworthy people are Christians who obey God.
So that's part of the preparedness that, you know, Genesis 45 talks about.
And then he says, come to Goshen.
People miss this word that he says, come to Goshen and thou shalt be near unto me.
So Goshen is not just, I'm stocked up with whatever, you know, guns and ammunition, but I'm coming near to the man of God.
I'm coming near to the presence of God.
People miss that.
They just say, I'm going to buy a ranch.
I'm going to hide out.
I'm going to get a bunker.
All that can be part of the plan, but you're missing the God factor.
You got to draw near to God.
You got to draw near to the man of God.
So when I prepare a Goshen, like I believe a great place is in southern Thailand, I make sure there's a church being built there.
I make sure the gospel is going to be preached there.
And so I believe you're doing the same in Blue Eye, Missouri.
Build Goshen 00:10:04
You're the forerunner, in fact, Pastor Jim.
You've been doing that.
And I believe if God sent you there, that's because it's going to be a safe place in the end time.
So you need that community to be with like-minded believers who are prepping.
You are so right.
We're building Goshen.
Amen.
Ricky, you're in charge now.
Whoever made that choice.
I did.
No.
We are trying to build a Goshen.
We believe in preparation.
I need to run this because you've got to have food.
Yeah, you do.
Do you understand that people have to eat?
Well, you won't live in a place very long if there's not food.
Yep, I do.
You won't live in a place very long if there's not food.
And that's just the reality of it.
You have to.
You have to go out on the road and try to find food.
That's exactly right.
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I'm telling you, I had a vision of the end times years ago before we started prepping for food.
And I saw hungry children just crying in starvation.
And we need food.
And is there any scriptures that tells us what to do?
A guide, you might say, to believe how to prepare for challenging times.
Revelation 6 says that there's going to be coming such a global famine that the price of bread is going to be a day's wage.
So certainly you should keep long life food.
And I've tasted the New Mana food.
It's great.
Yeah, it's very nice.
In fact, I was on your show live with you and they were cooking up the New Mana food and I tasted it.
It was great.
So you need some long life food.
Yeah.
And along with that, water.
I don't think anybody talks about water that much.
We talk about food.
We talk about it like that.
Years ago, we didn't have bottled water.
But this water will last for how long?
This will last up to 20 years.
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That means that you're not going to have bacteria.
It's not going to be leaching any material.
Can you get it?
A bunch of it?
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Pastor Steve.
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But Pastor Steve, we want to connect you with them directly because, again, I was telling Ricky, ministries today are not getting ready.
And it's amazing to me how many people are dependent on having their, you know, their storehouse.
And a food pantry down the road.
A food pantry.
The problem with that is that food pantries are running out of food.
That's right.
We don't have time to talk about it.
Urgency is now.
Get prepared.
Get your house in order.
Become a Goshen in your community.
Let your church be the lighthouse in the time of darkness.
The time to be ready is now.
When you have perilous times and you have this food, you're going to thank Jim Baker.
Absolutely.
They think I'm crazy, but they're not going to think I'm crazy.
I stand on the word of the living God.
But this is powerful, right?
I can't tell them enough.
I mean, water.
Yeah.
This is the first time we've had water that lasts like this.
If I tell you right now, you won't believe me, the water wars that is taking place in America right now.
I'm trying, they're trying to control the water.
You don't have time to be fearful.
You build your faith.
We don't say this to scare you.
And if you're getting scared, turn it into faith.
This is not a time to panic.
This is not a time to be fearful.
This is a time to prepare.
This is a time to build your faith.
You know that the book of Revelation is to bring you hope.
It's not to scare you.
And whoever teaches it to scare you are doing it wrong because the greatest message about the book of Revelation is that the king is coming back.
Amen.
The problem is certain things have to happen in order for him to come back.
It says it very clearly: Revelation 1, verse 3.
Blessed is the one who reads aloud the word of this prophecy.
And blessed are those who hear the words of this prophecy and keep what is written because time is near.
And I keep wanting you to watch, read Matthew 24 as a roadmap to what's going to happen in the next two years.
That's right.
And I want you to read it.
I want you to teach some more.
All right, we will.
And Jesus is coming, people.
I may be an old man, but I've preached for about 60, 70 years.
And the king is coming.
I got prophecies telling my head that God has told me is going to happen.
And some of them are going to shock you.
So I'm not going to give them to you right now, but maybe you'll let me come back.
We'll think about it.
It's still called the Jim Baker Show.
You can come back anytime you want.
Well, I got some rough prophecies to give.
Well, it's time to give them.
And you know what?
Every one of my prophecies have come true.
Yeah.
That God has given me.
I've been with you 27 years, and I've seen every single one of them come to pass.
And I don't brag about it or anything like that.
All I know is God speaks to me.
Amen.
And you listen.
You know.
David was just a country boy.
Yeah.
He was a sheep farmer.
And God says, I choose David to be the king.
That's right.
And nobody believed him.
Not his father even.
No.
But God uses everybody that's willing to yield to God.
Amen.
Oh, God.
We have to go.
These 30-minute shows make me go crazy, but we have to go.
And we're thrilled to have Steve Gikalani with us.
And Jesus is coming.
We need a thousand people to give $1,000.
There's an address on the screen.
Just mail it in.
Yes.
Obey God.
And you see, and I promise you, the windows of heaven open when you do that.
God loves you.
He really, really does.
Lori, in my mission is to fulfill the great commission of Jesus Christ to go into all the world and preach the gospel to every person.
I want to thank you for standing with us and for your support.
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