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Jan. 9, 2025 - Jim Bakker Show
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The Jim Bakker Show with Perry Stone Part 1
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Living in the Last Days 00:04:28
Hello and welcome to the Jim Baker Family Show coming to you from the Village of Morningside, USA, nestled in the beautiful Ozark Mountains.
Today, our special guest is a best-selling author, international evangelist, host of Manifest TV and founder of Voice of Evangelism Outreach Ministries, Evangelist Perry Stone.
Our co-host today is Reverend Mondo Delevega.
And now, live from Gray Street at Morningside, USA, here's your host, Pastor Ricky Baker.
Hello, you're watching the PTL Television Network.
We're glad you tuned in with us today.
Friends, we have an exciting show with us today.
We have evangelist Perry Stone.
He is one of America's foremost experts on Bible prophecy and the host of Manifest, a weekly TV program which airs on the PTL Voice of the Prophets Network.
It's on at Sunday morning at 9.30 a.m.
This is Eastern Standard Time and Sunday nights at 10.30 Eastern Standard Time.
So Mondo, we're going to be talking about this today.
We're going to be getting into breaking prophetic codes.
Friends, this is important.
How our future is concealed in Old Testament stories and parables.
We're going to be getting into the broadcast of Perry Stone today.
But Mondo, the world of news has been growing exponentially.
We're seeing that we're hearing of the wars and rumors of wars.
We're hearing of the pestilences and famines.
Now, friends, I know every generation at some point would have heard of these things, but I truly believe and I stand by this, that we are the first generation seeing the culmination of all of these events at one time.
That is why I believe that we're living in the last days and we are living in that last day generation.
But Mondo, I mean, we're seeing, you know, the pestilences, all of this, but what's that doing that's crippling even things like our food banks in America?
There's a convergence of Bible prophecy taking place like no other lifetime before.
Yet we're watching technology expand the ability to do a lot of things.
But at the same time, we're seeing earthquakes, we're seeing volcanoes, we're seeing famines.
And we've seen that before in the past, but they're happening more and more all together.
And listen, keep your eyes on earthquake activity because 2025, I believe that we're going to see a shaking that the whole world is going to look into.
But yet, where does it land in Bible prophecy?
When you look at earthquakes in the Bible, they don't happen 100,000 times.
They happen over 20 times, but they happen in certain events.
I love Perry Stone because Perry Stone puts you back in the timeline of Bible prophecy and he explains it word for word on where we are, where we're headed, but more importantly, where you fit in Bible prophecy.
That's right, friends.
You do fit somewhere in Bible prophecy.
Perry Stone, we want to thank you for being on the broadcast with us today.
How are you doing?
Since the last time you've been on our broadcast, can you kind of give us an update of everything that's been going on with Perry Stone and your ministry?
Well, I'm so happy and I give God all the glory.
First of all, for the opportunity of being on, you guys are like family to us.
I think you know that our staff and your staff and Charlie and Pam, my wife and Lori and Jim and all the kids, you know.
But I'm very happy to announce that as of 2024, going into last year, in 2024, we had the most people actually one to Christ documented that were one to Christ than any other time in the history of our Voice of Evangelism ministry, which was founded when I was 18 years of age.
So full time, I have been ministering about 47 to 48 years, and we are seeing people one in the United States.
We had two of the greatest revivals.
And people say revival doesn't happen in America anymore.
I beg to differ with you.
We had one revival in Florida in Gainesville, and just last year, and we just went back in the fall of 2024 recently and had over 470 people come to the Lord in four nights.
We went to a place in Kentucky, Florence, Kentucky, called Seven Hills Church.
Heavy Interest in Tribulation Teachings 00:02:56
Started out with four Sunday morning services, and it ran through Friday night.
Same thing happened, hundreds saved, many baptized in the Holy Spirit.
But overseas, and this is what people need to know because you don't always hear the reports that are happening in overseas nations.
Overseas, there is a very heavy interest in what the scripture has to teach about what is happening in the future, including what we call, I'm going to say this, what the Bible calls Hu ante Christos, the Antichrist, the Great Tribulation, Matthew 24, the ten kings that are coming.
And I think that the wars, and I say that plural, the wars that Israel are fighting actually on seven fronts with Hamas in Gaza, Hezbollah in the north.
Now you see what has happened in Syria.
They just, you know, a while back bombed the rebels in Yemen.
And what Israel is doing is they're cleaning the slate of the extreme radicals and their military equipment.
Now, all of this is coming together because there has to be, we've been preaching this for years, there has to be a treaty, an agreement which is signed with Israel and with others that says there's going to be peace in that part of the world.
And I think that's probably what we're looking at now is under the Trump administration.
It's just amazing.
He just meets with people and can get things done.
I've had someone who has known him for years to tell me that when he gives a speech, he's a little bit of a showman.
You know what I'm saying?
He's got that little apprentice that comes out.
But when he is in a room with people one-on-one, that he is one of the greatest negotiators of our generation and can really get things done by picking up the phone or meeting someone face to face.
He has an ability.
Usually something like that is a gift that has come from God to a person for a particular reason, maybe a political reason, a ruling reason, being a king or a president or a leader.
So we are, to make a long story short, because I'm taking a long time.
This has been the best year that we've ever had in the history of voice of evangelism ministry.
And I believe that for your network and I believe for our ministry and so many others out there, so many churches, that the best is yet to come in the last days of what God is about to do as he introduces the Joel II end time revival to the world.
Amen.
Amen.
You know, you brought up something important about Syria, Israel and Syria.
Excuse me.
Can you give us insight on whether or not this war between Israel and Syria will continue to escalate into Iran?
Understanding Shia & Sunni Beliefs 00:08:21
Well, here's what we have to kind of establish.
The Iranians have been behind the support both financially and militarily with equipment of Hamas.
They have been behind the support of Hezbollah.
Now, Hamas is in the Gaza Strip.
You all should know where that is by now.
And I'm not speaking of you, but the audience should know where that is by now.
Southern part of Israel near the Egyptian border.
Then you have Lebanon and you have the edge of Syria.
And Lebanon has actually been the stronghold for Hezbollah.
Now, ISIS, Al-Qaeda, but especially ISIS, was very strong in Syria, taking over Syria.
And then President Trump began to take out their leadership.
And they took a great blow.
But people, it's very confusing right now because people are coming on.
And I want to be careful saying this because I do respect people that are trying to minister to people, whoever they are.
But a lot of times people are coming on doing prophetic videos on YouTube channels and things of that nature, but they don't have the biblical background to understand the full view or the full picture.
So someone says Damascus has fallen, fulfilling Isaiah 17.
No, it hasn't.
Not if you read Isaiah 17.
Damascus fell as far as the government was concerned, but Damascus did not collapse into a ruinous heap the way Isaiah mentioned.
So here's what you have, and I'm going to do this with my hand.
In the northern part are the Kurds.
The Kurds are an ethnic group that trace their roots back all the way really to some of the people that showed up on the day of Pentecost in Acts chapter 2.
It's a different word.
It doesn't say Kurds there, but their family members, ancestors, I should say, were there on the day of Pentecost.
So the Kurds are an ethnic group that America has supported and that are very, very friendly toward America.
We've given them military assistance.
And the reason we did is under Saddam Hussein, he used chemical weapons against the Kurd, and he killed 5,000 Kurds by poisoning their well water.
And as a result of that, America came in and supported the Kurds, removed Saddam Hussein.
So America became a hero to the Kurdish nationals that are there.
So they have been with us.
We have supported them financially and with military equipment.
There have been some Christian organizations that have been able to minister to the Kurds as well.
And so they're the northern part.
Then you have just in the Damascus area, there's a strip of Damascus that was controlled by Assad and his family for about 50 years.
Now, here's where you've got to understand this part, because I don't want to get into all the military.
If I had a map here, we could do that better.
Here's the part you've got to understand.
There's two groups of Islam.
One is the Shia Muslims.
They are predominantly found, the largest population is in Persia or Iran.
95% to 97% of the Muslims are Shia Muslims.
In the rest of the Islamic world, which would include Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, Iraq, yes, Iraq, Syria, trying to name all these nations, Egypt, Lebanon, they're called Sunni Muslims.
Now, you have to go back and understand the history of these two groups.
When Muhammad died, there was a split among the Muslim people.
It's just like a split in the church.
That's the best way for me to describe it to you for people to understand.
It would be like a congregation splitting over two staff members, this pastor and an associate.
The associate leaves and takes half the church with him, and the pastor keeps the original group.
Then they begin to infight as to who has the anointing, which is the right church.
And that's a weak illustration compared to what this is.
But that helps you understand the two groups.
So they fought over who was the heir or who took the mantle of Muhammad, who is considered to be the Islamic prophet.
So they started killing each other's leaders off.
When a leader would rise, this group would come in and assassinate him or poison them.
When this group's leader would rise and take over and try to lead a group, then the other side, so in other words, the Sunnis were killing the Shia leaders and the Shia were killing the Sunni leaders.
And one group killed the first 11 leaders of one of those branches of Islam, actually killed them.
So the 12th leader disappeared.
He was the son of the 11th and he disappeared.
So nobody knew what happened to him.
They actually put him into protection probably, but they taught that he's in, and I don't want to use the word they use.
I want to describe it to where you understand it.
You know, when an animal hibernates in the winter, it's in a kind of a semi-state, sleeping state, whatever, and then it comes out.
It's almost like this man's been in hibernation since about the 8th century.
And he's called the 12th Imam.
And this is where the doctrine of the Twelver comes in that the Iranians believe in.
And so they believe that this man's going to arise under the leadership of Persia or Iran.
And he is going to reunite an Islamic empire and that that empire is going to be ruled by the Persians.
And this is why Persia continues to fight thinking they're going to win to supply weapons because they believe they are destined.
This is in their tradition.
Now, these traditions go back hundreds of years.
This is not a recent teaching.
They believe in their tradition.
They are the sole heir to the future Islamic empire, the apocalyptic empire of Islam, I call it.
So the Sunnis have a different belief, although they do believe in Al-Mahdi, the Mahdi, who was the last Islamic leader who will come with Isa ibn Maryim, which is Isa, is the name for Jesus in that language.
Isa ibn Maryim, Jesus, son of Mary.
So you have the Mahadi who appears with Jesus, the son of Mary.
And in Islamic teaching, I've studied this since 1990.
In Islamic teaching, although there's differences of who the Mahdi is, there's differences of where he comes from, there are differences of what he does and that type of thing.
The basic teaching is that when this man appears on the scene who is called Mahdi, he will come with Isa ibn Maryim, who is Jesus the son of Mary.
But what the teaching is, is that Jesus will tell the world, I am not the son of God.
I lied about that.
God has given me an opportunity and Islam is the true religion.
Now, let me stop.
If you go to the 13th chapter of Revelation and you begin to read about a beast rising up out of the sea, which is the Antichrist, and a beast rising up out of the earth, which is the false prophet, you get an imagery.
And I don't have time to develop this.
This would take three hours to teach.
But you get the perfect imagery of what Islam is expecting.
So let's go back to the war in Syria.
In the war in Syria, what is interesting is that there is a huge mosque called the White Mosque, which is where Isa ibn Maryim, Jesus the son of Mary, and the Mahadi is to appear.
The problem you have is that there are others that believe in the Shia religion that the Mahdi is going to appear in Iraq and not Syria.
So there's this splintered split, and they have actually, during the wars that were under President Bush, the Sunnis were destroying the mosque of the Shias and the Shias were destroying the mosque of the Sunnis.
Not all, only a few, in areas where the belief was that the Mahadi was to appear.
So one religion was trying to prevent the other religion's ideas from being fulfilled, and it was working both ways.
So here's what you've got in Syria.
I know I'm making a long story short, but people have to understand the history, and then it starts making sense.
What you have in Syria is you have the Assad regime, and he murdered his own people.
Jordan's Peace Initiative 00:04:34
And he became connected with Russia and Russia arming them, but he was also connected with Persia or Iran that was helping to arm them at times as well.
And so there was a lot of people jailed.
There were actually probably tens of thousands of Syrian people that were killed under him.
Now he has been re-exiled.
He's probably in Russia with his family.
Now what you have is you have militia groups.
Some of the groups like the Kurds, as I said earlier, have been supported by the U.S.
And you have Israel that has been involved behind the scenes because what Israel has done basically is they from time to time have bombed the weapons depot in Lebanon and the weapons depot in Syria so that the Assad army cannot get the weapons they need or the missiles they need to supply to Hezbollah.
So that's been going on.
I think Israel Bomb 400 cites this just a while back a couple weeks ago.
All right, now this is important to understand.
Where is this going?
In the Middle East, and I'm going to talk about two men, two men from the Bible.
One is Esau, who was the brother of, he was a son of Jacob.
You have Jacob, I'm sorry, Jacob and Esau, they were brothers.
Jacob birthed Israel.
Esau birthed the people in Jordan today.
They were Ammon, and they are the Moabites and the Edomites.
They're the country of Jordan.
So you have Israel and Jordan that sit together, which is sons of Jacob, sons of Esau.
But then, in the Gulf states that surround Jordan and Israel, you have the sons of Ishmael.
And so Esau has 12 sons.
Ishmael has numerous sons.
So they become the Gulf states.
They become the Arab nations.
And so this, what you see taking place now is very interesting because Israel is trying to make peace with the entire Arab world.
And the one country that does not want peace, and there's others as well.
You know, Yemen is one of those, but the Persians or the Iranians do not want peace.
So Israel has been involved with contacting the Persians and saying, if you will overthrow your government, we want to be at peace with you.
We want the Iranian people to be at prosperity.
The Iranian people are some of the sweetest people.
They're beautiful people.
The kids, I mean, if you ever look at the Persian kids, they remind you of miniature queen esters.
You know what I'm saying?
They're just beautiful kids, beautiful people, very kind people.
But there's 20% that are radical, and the 20% control the government.
So Israel sent a message recently and said, if you, you have to understand your government has spent hundreds of billions of dollars financing terrorism when your hospitals are suffering, when your roads are deteriorating.
And he's kind of encouraging them for an internal uprising.
So that's where all of this is going right now.
What will happen to Syria?
Here's the end story.
And I know I've taken a lot of time here with this one subject.
But the end story is that in Isaiah chapter 17, Damascus will in the future cease from being a city.
It has never been totally destroyed.
There have been times that its olive trees and palm trees were cut down, but it always paid tribute.
But the reason it was never totally destroyed, that it would be a small village, it would be a large city, and that type of thing, is an oasis.
In that part of the world, water is rare.
So Damascus has the oasis of water.
That's why people would use it when they were traveling in caravans and camels or whatever they were traveling on, because they want it to be preserved for someone to have access to, you know, help them have access to the oasis that was there.
But it will be destroyed.
And it's yet to be seen who will destroy it.
Will eventually Iran attack it because they have turned against the Persians.
Will at some point Israel have to take care of it?
Will the United States?
Or, this is a possibility, will a radical terrorist group, or even Turkey, for example, destroy the city?
Because if, let's say, a nuclear weapon ever comes out of there against Israel, or if chemical weapons ever are shot into Israel where hundreds of Jews are dying, I can assure you Damascus will no longer be in existence.
Ezekiel 46:1 Revelation 00:05:52
And Israel is, I remember one Israeli leader said, you gassed us one time and you killed millions of us in gas chambers in Germany and Europe.
You're not going to do that again.
And Israel has had to learn to survive the hard way.
They've had to develop weapons that are just actually amazing.
The Pager situation with all the pagers that exploded was nobody's ever seen nothing like it.
It's like something out of a science fiction movie.
So there is some very heavy prophetic activity taking place that I believe in the future is going to be very, very significant for the church, for the body of Christ.
Thank you, Perry Stone, for giving us that.
I mean, beautiful breakdown because what the world needs to understand is this goes deeper than just a superficial war over land.
This is a war truly of covenants.
You know, I want to talk about this.
You're breaking prophetic codes, how our future is concealed in Old Testament stories and parables.
We have a role in kind of a clip from this.
I want to play this.
We're going to come back and talk about this and how this is important.
And we need to understand the times we're living in.
Watch this.
God renewed something which had been lost by the Hebrew people and he renewed it and gave it to the Gentiles.
So it's a misnomer to make Old Testament, oh, well, didn't Jesus say that he came?
No, Jesus said, I have come not to destroy the law, but to fulfill it.
In other words, what has been written about me, you're going to see me acted out.
Oh, so it was all fulfilled.
Let's go back.
One-third of the Old Testament is prophetic that has not yet happened.
Go to the New Testament.
It quotes the Old Testament hundreds of times to prove Jesus is the Messiah.
People say, all that stuff's been done away with and all that stuff's been fulfilled.
Really?
Those people who say that haven't studied their Bible.
Did you know that there are what's called Sabbath cycles?
Did you know, clean your ears out for this, Ezekiel 46, 1, which is a scripture dealing with the temple in Jerusalem when Jesus sets up his kingdom in the millennial reign.
That temple in Ezekiel has never been built.
The description of it is massive.
It's the one Jesus will build when he comes back.
One man, I think it was Martin Luther, said that the book of Ezekiel, the latter part, should be ripped out of the Bible because of this.
It says that there are animal sacrifices in the millennial reign when King David is ruling from the temple in Jerusalem.
He is the king of Jerusalem.
And they're sacrificing animals there and offerings.
And Martin Luther said that shouldn't even be there.
That should be pulled out of the Bible.
Really?
Let me tell you why they're doing it.
Because Jesus is right now the high priest.
When Jesus comes back, he is the king.
He rules on earth as king of kings and lord of lords.
We're already redeemed.
We don't offer an animal sacrifice because of his blood.
When he comes back to rule as king, they bring a present to the Lord in Jerusalem as an honor and a memorial to him for that which he has done.
You never come before a king without bringing a present.
And so what I'm trying to say to you is for all of these people out there that when they hear this kind of preaching and the first flag, they want to go say, well, that's just all Old Testament.
That's all that Jewish stuff.
And that's been done away with.
The Bible says in the millennium, they shall take hold of the tallit of a Jew and say, We've heard that God is with you.
Take us to worship your God.
You don't want me to keep on going, apparently.
The Bible says shofars will be blown in the millennium.
And in case you didn't know it, God's son is not a Gentile.
We have that available through an affiliate program with Perry Stone.
Voice of Evangelism.
What a great name for an affiliate program, too.
Voice of Evangelism.
The time that we're in right now, you're going to have to have some teachers that will help you decode a lot of the language that is being spoken over a lot of the issues.
That's right.
That's why it's so important that nations have great negotiators to understand how to de-escalate war.
Yes.
When you understand the history of the Middle East, a lot of the great salespeople come from the Jewish community or the Palestinian community.
But I want to tell you something.
If America doesn't have a great negotiator that understands the language of how they negotiate, then you're going to get lost in translation of how that works.
The same thing with Bible prophecy.
If you don't have a good teacher that helps you decode the negotiations that took place in Bible prophecy, then you're not going to understand how to implement that in the modern world.
When you see nations, when you see prophecy, when you see the escalation of events taking place, how do you understand how to decode that?
I believe that God has gifted this man, Perry Stone, evangelist Perry Stone, to help us understand what these codes are all about.
And what are we going to get if we receive this?
Well, you know, many times we minister prophetic messages either at our big conferences or we minister them in regional conferences.
And from time to time, we will have them to tape with cameras, you know, the actual teaching that's taking place.
There are times that we use PowerPoint and people can see that as well if something is on a DVD.
We also do most of those, you know, in a CD format as well.
Most of our messages always comes out in CD format.
Bible's Hidden Layers 00:08:09
But one of the things I want to share with you about the importance of this album, I have a copy right here, which is called Breaking Prophetic Codes.
And this is six audio messages right here.
Among Jewish rabbis, they are taught to analyze the five books of Moses called the Torah by five methods.
Peshat, Remez, Drosh, and Sod.
Now that sounds strange, but let me explain it to you.
The teaching is that the Bible is in layers.
And it really is.
This is where the idea of, you know, you got Jonathan Kahn who talks about harbingers and oracles and mysteries.
And some people will say, well, you know, the Bible is easy to explain.
There are no mysteries.
That's not true.
Jesus said the parables of the mystery of the kingdom.
Then they said, what are you talking about?
And he said, it is for you to understand the mystery.
It is not for them to understand the mystery.
So there are mysteries.
Those mysteries have to be unlocked and explained.
Peshot among the rabbis is the simple meaning of the text.
So in other words, when you open up your Bible and you're reading the story as it is, that's the Peshat level of understanding.
Then they get to Remez, and Remez is an illusion or an allegorical or a philosophical study.
And Paul in Galatians talks about allegories.
That's an example.
The third level, and each one of these moves you up the ladder, so to speak, is drosh, and that's the regal level.
And that's where the Bible has riddles or it has parables, and you have to dig into the riddle that's there, the parable that's there, to get the full meaning.
And then the last level, which is called Sod, and it's like S-O-D, that's how it's spelt, Sod.
That is called the hidden or the mystical level.
And what happens is this.
Some people read the Bible just to read it, just to get the information, which is great because the word has life in it.
Other people compare scripture with scripture.
But then there is another level of comparing the original Hebrew or the original New Testament Greek with the words.
You'll discover that some words that are translated the same, and one of them is the word power.
One can be exosia and the other can be dunamis.
And they have two different meanings, but it's the word power in English.
That is another level of study.
Now, when you can take the symbolism of Bible prophecy from the Old Testament, if I were to say it to everybody, what is a serpent?
Most of you would say Satan, and you'd be right.
If I were to say, what is the symbol of a lamb?
You would say Jesus.
You'd be correct.
How do we know that?
Because the Bible lays out the patterns of the symbolism.
Now, that takes you into another level.
But here's the level.
And I want to say this.
The album that we're talking about, this is the level it gets into, where we take an entire book of the Bible, like the book of Esther, or we take several chapters from Judges.
We take the story of Gideon.
And what is mind-blowing, it is absolutely amazing, is that you will find clues of what will actually happen in the future in the Old Testament stories.
And what I base that on, I base that on two scriptures, and I have them right in front of me.
One is Ecclesiastes 1 and verse 9.
The thing that has been is that which shall be, and that which is done is that which shall be done, and there's nothing new under the sun.
Then Ecclesiastes chapter 3, verse 15 says this, that which has been is now, and that which is to be has already been.
And so this is, these are, and God requires that which is past.
So in other words, and let me say this, and if you don't mind me teaching just a minute here while I say this, that God began to show me the Armageddon Code and the story of Gideon, the tribulation code hidden in Purim, the Exodus Code, unlocking the Maranatha Code, end time sequence in the parables of Jesus, and decoding the American-Israeli cipher.
Why is Israel and America so connected?
Because our patterns are the same.
And it took years to put this together.
And it's one, two, three.
It's actually a little over six hours of teaching, about an hour at least for each one, sometimes 70 minutes.
And so I put this together because I said, you know what?
There are people watching that have been raised in church.
You go to church, you love church.
Some of you are older.
Some of you may be middle-aged, a little younger, and you were raised and you love God's house.
You're Baptist, you're Methodist, you're Catholic, you're Pentecostal, you're Charismatic.
You know, there's different denominations.
But you have a hunger for God's word.
And you read the word and you say, oh, I would love to understand that.
I would love to get what is God saying there.
That's what this is about.
Now, someone said to me one time, they said, why do I use the word code sometimes?
What do those terms mean?
First of all, Matthew 3, 11, there are mysteries of the kingdom.
A mystery is something that is concealed that must be searched out in Scripture.
Number two, symbolism conceals mysteries that must be dug out.
I was in Rome, Italy years ago.
I never forgot this.
I was in Rome, Italy, and I was meditating on why did John use so much symbolism in the book of Revelation?
And I went to, if I remember right, I went to sleep and then I woke up with a revelation.
It was unbelievable.
I'm standing here.
I get up near a car.
I say, that's it.
When John wrote the book of Revelation as a political prisoner on the Isle of Patmos, he was taken there because he was a threat to the Roman Empire.
Now, if John would have written that mystery Babel in Revelation 17, 18 was the Roman Empire, they would have, actually, they'd have probably killed him right there and they'd have burnt the scroll.
So John is giving the future of the world and Rome is going to be the future rebuilt Roman Empire is going to be connected with it and all that kind of thing.
And he conceals it in symbolism, or should I say God conceals it in symbolism so that, can you imagine John bringing this scroll back?
I mean, he's got this scroll wrapped up, and they start looking at it and reading it.
And there's a woman pregnant in the sky giving birth to a baby, and there's a dragon that's, you know, that's trying to eat people.
And it's like they look at each other saying, this poor guy, man, he's been in a cave too long.
He's lost his mind.
And they give him the scroll because there's nothing in it that's going to be detrimental because you have to take the symbolism.
So God saved John's life and saved the book of Revelation by concealing what was written in actual symbolism.
And that's why there is so much symbolism in the book of Revelation, not because God is trying to hide things from us, but it is our duty as kings and priests unto God to search out a matter, to search out a situation.
And so it takes people such as myself and many others who have studied for over 100,000, sometimes 150,000 hours total, more than that, that have got the information to get it to you.
And, you know, television is a great way of doing it, and you all know that.
But sometimes you have information that you don't want to share on a public setting.
That's why you do these tapes.
So I want you to order your set.
If you don't have it, order your set right now.
Go to the information and order your set right now because you need to understand a lot of these things that nobody understood before.
I mean, can I say this to you?
The Bible said, every eye shall see him.
Now, how years ago, in the 1800s, early 1900s, when people read this verse that every eye shall see Christ, they said, how is that happening?
Prophecies and Marks 00:15:22
That's impossible.
Every eye can't see him at one time.
Yes, they can.
Satellite.
Did you get what I said?
Satellite.
Here's another one.
Every person on earth will receive a mark in their right hand or in the forehead.
You can't buy or sell without the beast, the mark, the name, or the number.
Now, before computers ever came along, no one, I have older commentaries.
I can tell you this for a fact.
Nobody among the older commentaries understood a thing of how can everybody operate off of a number and have a mark.
Well, now you do it.
You can do it through tattoos.
You can do it through.
I mean, there's all kinds of things that you can use now that were not available 30 years ago.
My point is, when this was preached, people just looked at each other.
You know, in 1888, when S.W. Watson wrote a book that's probably about that thick, it's somewhere among my thousands of books.
He said in 1888 that Jesus could not come back till Israel was a nation, Jerusalem was the capital, and the Jews had returned from the land.
And then people land blasted this man, mocked him, criticized him, wrote articles against him because they said that is a complete, total impossibility.
Well, guess what?
S.W. Watson was totally correct.
And I'm glad to say that the man has been avenged after years of criticism back in the 1800s.
So please feed yourself information.
So many people watching me through this network, you know the basics of prophecy.
You know the tribulation is coming, Antichrist is coming, 10 kings are coming, Jesus is going to come back, wars, rumors of wars.
You got the basics.
But do you know the deeper meaning of stories in the Bible that actually conceal nuggets that will give you more information about what is about to happen?
And that's what this particular teaching that they're offering is all about.
Okay?
So, and please, I've always admired my good brother in the Lord, Jim, and his wife, Lori, and what a man that has stood the test of time and has presented to you the uncompromised word of God and has allowed voices to come and present you that word that maybe you won't hear.
Honestly, you may not hear on other places or other networks because there's a lot of people that don't have well-known names that are out there right now and they're actually hearing from the Lord.
And that's what I love about this network.
When they know that they have a credible word from God or they've spoken something that's come to pass, those people are allowed to have a voice on this network that many other, many other places you wouldn't see.
So I thank the Lord for that.
And I thank them for getting resource material that is so needed into the hands of so many people.
So I'm going to take a drink of water and go back to the studio.
I need to shut up for just a second, give you guys an opportunity to say something.
I'll give you about two minutes to drink your water.
There you go.
No, we appreciate your kind words to the ministry.
Our goal is to present our partners with the information.
Why?
So that you can go back, listen to the CDs, open up the word of God, and see how it all lines up.
The thing is that we are entering what dad, your friend Jim Baker, has always told you, shared with you, shared with us privately, that we are entering the pressure of the ages.
Yeah.
Where everything is going to be under pressure.
Ministries are under pressure.
Individuals are under pressure.
Financially, we're under pressure.
Culturally, we're under pressure.
Everything that you have known till this day is under pressure.
And there's a convergence of things.
Listen, just a few hours ago, there were seven, a conversion of seven earthquakes.
And I think it's about several different states all at the same time experiencing earthquakes.
Yet there's a conversion of a time of pressure that the ages is bringing together.
But how do you explain that through Bible prophecy?
How do you explain that through biblical worldview?
There's a lot of long-range preachers and prophecy, well, so-called prophetic voices on the internet that you better be careful.
We don't know where they're grabbing their theology.
We don't understand what they're even talking about.
Some days are good.
Some days we are living in a time that if you don't understand clearly what is being said to interpret the times and the seasons, then you better be careful.
A few days ago, we had Dr. George Barna on the program explaining to us that if ministers and churches don't start preaching and teaching from a biblical worldview, you better be careful.
Bible prophecy, if it's not being spoken through a biblical lens, they can take you into Nostradama's point of view and lose you.
Why?
Because the church is so hungry to get a word, yet they don't want to read the word no more, Ricky.
They don't want to take time to be in the word.
One thing about this teaching that we're offering today is forcing you to go to the word.
That's right.
Go back to the word.
What does the whole entire Bible have to say about certain things?
I mean, I love the fact that he takes a whole entire chapter, a book, to help you understand where we are in Bible prophecy today.
Listen, if I was you, I wouldn't miss out.
I will call the number 1-888-988-1588.
If you don't want to talk to anybody and you're melancholy and you want to be left alone, go to the website, jimbakershow.com and visit the affiliate page there.
It's voice of evangelism with Perry Stone.
That's right.
And order several copies of this.
It's going to be very important and critical because as Israel is developing in Bible prophecy with events that are taking place, you want to know why, who are the players.
I'm watching Turkey.
Pastor Jim, 1999, said, watch Turkey.
And let me just give you a little headline just to bring it into perspective.
Tensions between Israel and Turkey escalate over Syria.
It's time to pay attention, is what this headline is telling us.
We're right there, Ricky.
That's right.
We are.
This is a six CD set.
I think I said DVD earlier.
You'll have to, excuse me.
I hang around my dad a lot, so we tend to not say the right words.
So this is a six CD set.
You can play it in your car.
I played it at my DVD player and just had it playing in the background while I did some things with my children.
We were listening to this.
The breaking the prophetic codes.
Mondo, like you said, there's so many people who want to know, where do I begin in Bible prophecy?
Where do I begin in breaking prophetic codes?
You know, a lot of people just read the book in their most populated areas.
Like I read, you know, would be the Gospels, or I maybe read my Acts, my Romans, the Galatians.
Maybe I read through Genesis just to get a glimpse of the beginning of time.
But there's a lot of the in-between of the 66 books where people say, well, I haven't really dived into it.
I maybe have read it, but I didn't understand it.
This is going to help you break that down.
Terry, I want to thank you for putting it in such an easy to listen to format.
I know this is, you know, things that you have done across the nation.
You put the best six CDs into this and you put it out breaking prophetic codes.
I want to thank you for that.
You know, this is a question I've been wanting to ask you.
I truly believe we're living in the end times, but why is some of the biblical end time information concealed until the end of time?
You know, my father, I asked my father that question.
My father came out of the healing revival in the 1940s.
He was converted to the Lord in the 1940s or late 1940s and had a great ministry for many years.
And I said to my dad one day, I said, did you ever hear the level of teaching on Bible prophecy and the understanding when you were an 18 to 20 year old preacher in the church?
And he said, absolutely not.
He said, we heard basic preaching.
We heard the Lord was coming back.
He said, but here's what happened.
In 1948, when Israel became a nation again, during the healing revival, men began to put out books, or Roberts was one of the first one, about Jesus' coming soon.
And Billy Graham began his ministry about that same time.
And one of his messages was Jesus is coming soon.
And they referred it back to the fact that Isaiah 66 had been fulfilled, that a nation would be born in a day.
So that triggered something, but it didn't really trigger the understanding of the depth of it till Hal Lindsay wrote a book called The Late Great Planet Earth.
I think it sold 18 to 22 million copies.
And it was a book that stirred the interest of Bible prophecy and the events of the time of the end, unlike anything that had ever been done before.
Then later, through Christian television, different networks, you had early men like Jack Van Empe, the Baptist, Great Baptist preacher who was a friend of mine, Jack Van Empe.
And you had others that were coming on major networks.
And then they had books, material in which they were breaking down the end time prophecy.
So I asked Dad, I said, Dad, tell me something.
Why didn't you hear this in your day?
All this teaching's coming out now.
This is right before he died about 12 years ago.
Dad, why?
You know what he told me?
Because it was not the last days in my day.
Woo!
I said, explain that.
He said, well, Israel was a nation, then like you preached, Perry, Jerusalem became the capital.
The Jews started returning.
But it says in Daniel 10, I'm sorry, chapter 12, that in the last days, many would run to and fro and knowledge will be increased.
You have to come to the season.
when it is the actual last days for the prophecies of the last days to begin to come to pass.
That's how we know we're in the last days.
Because there's like prophecies all over the place.
I mean, you can almost look under a rock and find a prophecy or look up a tree and find one.
It's crazy.
It's like every day.
You talked about the earthquakes just now, you know, earthquakes in diverse places.
COVID was the pestilence that shut the earth down.
The days of Noah, the flood shut the earth down and COVID shut the earth down as it was in the days of Noah.
It wasn't a flood of water.
It was a flood of sickness.
And so when all these things begin to come to pass, then look up, lift up your head, for your redemption draws nigh.
So that's where we're at.
So the earlier generations did not, it was not the last days.
It was approaching the fulfillment of last day prophecies, but they would see one thing, maybe the Holocaust, they would see World War II.
They would see Hitler, a prototype of like a picture of the Antichrist.
They would see the restoration of Israel.
And then we came into the outpouring of the Holy Spirit in 1967, which was a great opening door for the Word of God as well.
And then things began to happen.
So now we are in the last days.
Now we are approaching what is called the time of the end.
And the time of the end doesn't mean the destruction of the earth.
The time of the end is the last seven years of Bible prophecy and the return of Jesus to rule on earth for a thousand years.
So that is one of the main reasons.
And reason number two, I think, is what I said earlier, that the generations in the 20s, 30s, and 40s could read about a mark on your hand, on your forehead.
You can't buy or sell without the mark, the name, or the number.
How do you sell with the name?
How do you sell with the number?
It made no sense.
Social security came along.
License plates came along.
Phone numbers came along.
I mean, credit card numbers came along.
Everybody now is known by their number.
I mean, they want to know, every time you go to a doctor, they don't ask you for your name and address and where you live or phone number.
They say, what's your social security number?
That's what you're known by.
You're known by a number.
Now, that's not the mark of the beast, by the way, so don't get all stirred.
But the point is that we are the generation that will understand these things.
And that's why, for example, when the Lord gave me, started giving me like the Armageddon code hidden in Gideon.
I mean, it takes an hour to explain it, but it is absolutely phenomenal because it gives you words and a phrase used in the New Testament for the Antichrist, his 10 kings, and the Battle of Armageddon, even the location.
And so I'm like, now, this is the kind of stuff, you know, Jonathan Kahn's the same way.
Jonathan could tell you how to get saved and preach Jesus and him crucified just like any other great minister could.
But we as ministers have different areas of study or maybe the Lord gives you an area of expertise.
My friend Joel Olstein is the greatest encourager of anybody I've ever met.
Unsaved people watch him because first of all, he's very funny when he opens up his program, telling jokes.
But he's simple and they can understand him.
You have Billy Graham that was a soul winner.
However, or Robert's ministry was healing physical, emotional, and mental challenges that people were having in their body, soul, and spirit.
I start out as an evangelist.
I still consider myself to be an evangelist, a soul winner, but God put it in my heart after I went to Israel, and I saw where prophecy was actually being fulfilled inside Israel.
took pictures, came back and started showing those pictures on a bits, a slide projector, and then began to preach the prophecies that people had never seen happening in Israel.
That's what got me started on the journey that's led to this today to look at these very different type of what we would call a code or a mystery where something is concealed.
It's always been there.
It is not a new revelation.
It is a new understanding because we've come to the time of the end.
And what it does for unsaved people, if they pay attention, is it helps them to understand, wow, that's pretty cool.
Mystery of the Seed 00:03:05
Because if the Bible has a story that's 2,500 years old that concealed what was going to happen in the future, that means that what Solomon wrote is true.
The thing which has been is that which is going to be in the future.
And I love this kind of study.
I think you guys know that.
I know Jim knows it for sure.
And Lori does.
Laurie reads all the books, man.
She gets excited when she reads this kind of stuff.
Amen.
You know, you often speak of prophetic mysteries or prophetic codes, but just a couple minutes left in our broadcast.
What is the difference?
What does that mean?
What is the difference between a prophetic mystery and a prophetic code?
Okay, in a prophetic mystery, it is usually explained in the parables that Jesus gave, he would later give the interpretation.
It was a mystery to the listener, like the parables of the sower sowing the word.
They say, what does this mean?
It's a mystery.
He then says the seed is the word.
The son of man is the one sowing it.
And here's what this does.
So in most parables, the parable itself interprets itself.
Although it's a mystery when it's first said, it is later interpreted in the scripture.
Or you can go to other scriptures and say that's what it alludes to, especially like the mystery of the kingdom.
Paul said, I show you a mystery.
He talks about the catching away, the haripazo, the catching away that the English word that some theologians use is rapture.
It comes out of the Latin translation.
And then he talks about a mystery of the resurrection.
And the mystery was that a seed that there's nothing in a seed.
It's not a tree yet.
The tree is inside the seed, but you can't see it.
It's tiny.
But it has to go on the ground and die before it becomes a tree.
So he compares that to the resurrection.
Behold, I show you mysteries.
So these mysteries are, now a code is a little bit different because a code is concealed within not just a word or a text, but it's concealed within the story itself.
So a mystery may be one event.
It may be one statement.
It may be taking a story and comparing.
But in a prophetic code, you find out, for example, the book of Esther.
Esther has 10 sons of Haman.
That can represent the 10 kings of the tribulation.
Haman is a picture of the Antichrist who is over the 10 kings.
And that's where you get into understanding this is coded, or we would say concealed.
But then as we search the scripture and we go through those various layers, those four layers that I mentioned earlier, that most of your devout rabbis understand, then you see, wow, now we're at a level that is mysterious.
We're at a level where it's been concealed.
And now it's opened up.
And it really can be opened up only by the Holy Spirit.
Feeding The Ministry 00:07:30
Amen.
Friends, if you're just tuning in, we have Perry Stone with us today, Evangelist Perry Stone.
Terry, you are based out of Tennessee.
If somebody wants to come visit your church, where do they go?
What website would they go to to make sure they can get in contact with you and visit you on a Sunday?
Well, we have church actually on a Tuesday night.
We have so many, we have 380 churches in the county.
We didn't want to interfere with anybody else's church on Sunday.
We have a Tuesday night service starts at 6:30.
Dr. Brian Cutshaw is the lead pastor there.
And I'll preach there once every six to eight weeks.
You know, occasionally I'll come in and step in and preach.
But it's called Omega Center International, Omega Center International in Cleveland, Tennessee.
And it's always every Tuesday night at 6.30.
Great group of people, hundreds of people attend.
We have a great youth children's ministry there.
And I get to be fed more than I feed.
So I really enjoy that, to be quite honest with you.
Amen.
Yeah, I kind of want to ask you a question about that.
You know, how important is it, especially with the times we're living in?
You have people like you.
You know, you have people like Pastor Jim Baker, as well as others who are really watchmen on the wall.
They're breaking down to an easier to understand level biblical prophecy and the mysteries hidden in biblical prophecy.
How important is it for a person to continue to be able to be fed while they're even feeding the masses in the capacity that you are like this?
My key has always been what I'm about to tell you because I've had young ministers say, what do you think the key is?
The key is this, feed me.
And what does that mean?
When I take the Bible, okay, I'm not, and I'm maybe I'm working on the message, but I don't work on the message to work on the message.
I work on the message to look at this and say, what can I, Perry Stone, learn from what I'm studying?
Now, here's the point.
If I, after 48 years of preaching, if I can teach Perry Stone something and I say, wow, that is so neat, then all I do is take what I have fed myself and feed it to the people.
So that's how my study has always been.
My study has always been, I get a subject, I'll get, sometimes it'll be a title, and I'll say, oh man, I just want to know more about that.
And then I will study it, not to say, this would make a good message.
I study it to feed me.
And the next thing I know, I've got three or four pages of notes and I say, you know what?
I'm going to preach it.
So here's my point.
If it excites me when I study it and get it, I do believe it will excite the people.
Pastors, if you have a message you're about to preach and it doesn't turn you on and get you thrilled, I can assure you of one thing, you're going to have to preach those people awake because they're going to sleep through what you're about to say.
If it doesn't excite you, it's not going to do anything for anybody else.
I encourage ministers, pastor friends of mine, to study to feed you.
And it's more exciting that way because you don't feel like you're just researching for the sake of researching.
You're researching to teach you something.
And I told somebody one time, I said, I've never had a drug problem, never been on drugs, never had alcohol problems, don't drink any kind of alcohol.
I said, but I get high off of revelation in the Bible.
And that's the truth.
I've been studying sometimes and I would see something and I would jump up and run into the living room.
I would run and say, Pam, you got to see this.
That's my wife.
Pam, you got to see this.
So some of my staff, I'd say, I remember one time, my secretary, Gina, a great secretary, her and her husband Larry, worked with us.
And I would run over there to the office.
I said, okay, see if you get this.
It would be a prophetic revelation.
And I'd say, y'all sit here.
And I said, now, Gina, pay attention.
Does this make sense?
And sometimes she would say, it's too deep for me.
And I knew I'd have to go back and redo it to make it simpler.
And then another time she said, that's amazing.
And I would yell, Gina's got it.
Now we can preach it.
And it became like a joke inside the ministry.
If Gina can get it, anybody watching or anybody hearing it can get it.
She's a very smart girl, by the way.
If she sees this, we want to thank her for working with us for many years, her and her husband.
But yeah, I feed myself.
That's the key.
Amen.
Amen.
That is important.
Friends, we want to make sure you're constantly getting fed.
That's why we bring the guests like we do, like evangelist Perry Stone.
It's important that we can continue to bring guests like Perry Stone on this broadcast.
Yeah, and you're giving your, listen, your obedience to give to this ministry is so important.
Call the number today, 1-888-988-1588, or visit the website, jimbakershow.com.
Order this today.
It's going to make a difference for our ministry to be able to expand, to be able to continue to move forward and continue to bring more guests like Perry Stone to help us understand the times and the seasons that we're going through right now.
Amen.
Perry Stone, we just have a minute left in our broadcast.
If somebody doesn't know Jesus as their personal Lord and Savior, what would you say to them right now?
First of all, believe that Jesus Christ was born of the Virgin, conceived of the Holy Ghost.
He was buried, crucified, raised from the dead.
If you can believe that, you can be saved.
Believe that first of all, and then ask him to come into your heart, forgive you of your sins, and help you to walk with him and learn about him.
Become a believer and a follower, a disciple of Jesus Christ.
And I hope many of you will do that.
Amen.
Call that number.
It's 1-888-988-1588.
We have a member of our team who would love to pray that salvation prayer with you and walk through the steps of salvation with you.
Or if you'd rather go to jimbakershow.com, we have a prayer log there.
You can put your prayer request in.
Mono, one thing I love about this ministry is our wall of agreement.
We have it back there, friends.
When you send photos in, when you send emails in, whenever you send prayer requests in, they get put up on the wall of agreement.
What does that mean?
Our prayer team is going to go.
They're going to look over that.
Our pastoral staff, and they're going to agree with your prayers.
We're going to link arms with you as you link arms with us to continue to say, hey, we're going to stand in the gap and fight for Mondo.
We get things like fighting for marriages, fighting for finances, fighting for people's children who maybe are suffering from a drug-related issue, an alcohol-related issue.
Call that number again.
It's 1-888-988-1588.
We want to walk through those steps of salvation with you.
We want to pray that prayer with you because, friends, that is the most important decision you will ever make on this side of eternity.
Perry Stone, we want to thank you for being on the broadcast show one with us.
We're going to have a show two with evangelist Perry Stone.
I keep wanting to call him Dr. Perry Stone.
I'm about to give him an honorary doctorate on behalf of PTL.
I keep wanting to call him Dr. Perry Stone.
He's so smart.
But we're going to have Perry Stone back with us for a show too.
So make sure to tune in.
If you're just tuning in, go back on that DVR or go back on your video on demand and watch this from the beginning.
Perry Stone has shared with us some important information.
Until you watch show two, remember this.
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