All Episodes
Previous Next
Plain Text
Jan. 10, 2025 - Jim Bakker Show
58:24
The Jim Bakker Show with Perry Stone Part 2
|

Time Text
Breaking Prophetic Codes 00:06:33
Hello and welcome to the Jim Baker Family Show coming to you from the Village of Morningside, USA, nestled in the beautiful Ozark Mountains.
Today, our special guest is a best-selling author, international evangelist, host of Manifest TV and founder of Voice of Evangelism Outreach Ministries, Evangelist Perry Stone.
Our co-host today is Reverend Mondo De La Vega.
And now, live from Gray Street at Morningside USA, here's your host, Pastor Ricky Baker.
Hello, thank you for watching the PTL Television Network.
Today, we have day two with Perry Stone.
We're going to be talking about breaking prophetic codes.
Friends, this is a six CD set.
You're not going to want to miss this.
Perry Stone, if you don't know who he is, he's one of America's foremost experts on Bible prophecy.
And he also hosts a show here called Manifest on the PTL Television Network.
He airs Sunday morning at 9.30 a.m. and Sunday nights at 10.30 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
And friends, we're going to be talking about those breaking prophetic codes today, how our future is concealed in Old Testament stories and parables.
Perry Stone, I want to welcome you back to the broadcast for a show two with us.
Thank you for being on with us.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I'm going to clap just because I'm on.
I'm just glad to be on.
Really?
I love teaching.
Amen.
We love your teaching because we know that you really put the hours in behind your teaching.
It's not just frivolous word.
You didn't, you know, come up and say, hey, I can make these two things rhyme and I can make this sound good if I say it with this month's annunciation on the back end of it.
You truly do your work.
You have studied and you have shown yourself approved.
I want to say thank you for doing that, Perry Stone.
Thank you so much.
That's very kind.
And, you know, I enjoy what I do.
I was thinking the other day of so many people that work jobs that they don't enjoy what they do and they dread getting up.
I look forward to getting up every day because it's a brand new day and you never know what God's going to speak to you about or what he could even show you for that day.
So it's an exciting time to be alive, especially this being what we believe to be the time of the end.
No doubt about that.
I love people that study 40 hours for one hour.
And I want to tell you something.
That is not where a lot of preachers are today.
And we know this because of the research that there you go.
And you know what?
And this is why we have a lot of biblical illiteracy going on in the church today.
And we got sermons that now sound like they're coaching you to happiness and they're motivating you.
And that's fantastic.
Or that is written by ChatGPT.
Yeah, exactly.
But when you got people, and I only tell you this because being with Pastor Jim Baker, our father, your friend, for 26 years, I've studied alongside of them.
And in the beginning, I used to tell him, why are you studying one piece of scripture all week long?
And I learned a lesson.
He said, you better stop preaching longhorn sermons.
A point here, a point there, and a lot of bull in between.
And he said, if you're going to preach the word, you better preach the whole word.
And I learned that day that when God calls you to minister, you have a spiritual responsibility, not only to God, not only to the gift that he's given you, but to the people that are going to be listening to this because it can be life or death for them.
And if you're going to depend on longhorn sermons, you're not going to survive in ministry.
Ministry is tough.
People talk about you.
People make up stuff about you.
And only if you're rooted in the word, not just to preach, but to live.
The Bible says this.
And I know I'm talking too long.
But the Bible says this, that man should not live by bread alone.
That's right.
But by what?
Every word that proceeded.
Every word that proceeded.
Oh, you got to know the word to appreciate that scripture.
For that scripture alone, I enjoy people like Perry Stone, Jim Baker that take the time to study the word.
Amen.
Amen.
You know, it's our joy here on the PTL television network to bring you guys guests that are actually going to feed you.
We could bring you guests all day long that have a good word and maybe it's light substance, it's easier to digest.
But friends, we wouldn't be doing you do justice.
We understand that we truly, and I believe I stand by this, we truly have the most informed and the most intelligent television audience in the world, Mondo.
These are people who love Bible prophecy.
These are people who love the word of God in its fullness, not saying, hey, you know, a man said the other day, Mondo, if you abuse the scriptures long enough, you can get them to confess to anything.
You know, we aren't here to listen to people who have abused the scriptures enough to make whatever point they're trying to make.
We let the word of God speak for itself through our guests.
And we bring on guests that truly do their time in the word of God.
They study, they show themselves approved, and then they correlate that message to us and how it pertains to us in our everyday life.
But that's why the PTL network is important.
Why?
Because we don't have to censor our guests.
Perry, you've been on with us many times.
Has there ever been a point where we say, hey, Perry, these are some things that you can't talk about.
Here's the things we do want you to talk about.
No, and I want to say how appreciative I am of that as a minister because there are times, and if anybody knows this, Jim knows this, but there are times that you are pressed in your spirit by the Holy Spirit with a burden.
And you know that you've got to share something about something that's happening, something that's happened, something that's coming up that for some people is either a little bit controversial or maybe they're not going to agree with.
And so your tendency in the flesh would be to hold it back, keep everything as the status quo, make sure everybody likes you, apologize for what you say before you say it.
And if you're going to really be a man or woman of God or a young person of faith, there will be those times that what you believe is going to counter this culture.
And the cultural persecution is going to be unleashed against you because, for example, you believe that marriage is a man and a woman.
Perspective Changes the Conversation 00:15:26
That releases a cultural warfare against you because you believe that an infant has a right to live.
It releases cultural warfare against you.
And, you know, Jesus made a statement in Matthew chapter 24 where he said that we would come to a point.
And it's interesting because he says this after he deals with the war, the rumor of war, the famines, the pestilence, and the earthquakes.
Then he goes into this discourse and he says, many shall be offended.
Many shall betray one another and hate one another.
And because iniquity abounds, the love of many will just grow cold.
So this offense and betrayal and hating is so evident now.
And what is sad to me, it's one thing when sinners hate the church.
It's one thing with atheist and agnostic reprobates and unbelievers do not like what is happening and they comment on it and they criticize it.
But when you have Christians, alleged Christians, who come forward and, you know, the Lord told me this.
He said, some of these people are breaking the commandment of bearing false witness against a neighbor or against someone they know about or know.
And he told me, I said, what do you mean by that?
He said, well, in a court case, if they call a witness and the witness, they say to the witness, did you see X pull a gun on X X over here?
Yes.
Did you see X shoot?
Yes.
That's a witness.
But when you say in a court, well, no, no, I didn't see anything.
Do you know the victim?
No.
Do you know the victim that was shooting or the person shooting?
No.
But I did hear somebody on YouTube say, or I did hear somebody in the media right.
Now, can I tell you, a witness is a person that's present when something's happening.
If you go repeat rumors and gossip, and you weren't there, you should keep your mouth shut.
Because what if the information that's being reported ends up being false?
You have lied on someone.
Now it's a lie and never was the truth or wasn't even, you know, somebody said, well, it was partial truth.
Well, partial truth is not truth.
Partial truth is still a lie.
I mean, if it's 5% truth and 95% lie, it's a lie.
If it's 1% truth, or if it's 99% truth and 1% false, it's still a lie.
Anytime you get the leaven of the lie, that's a message, the leaven of the lie.
You get the leaven of the lie in something, it becomes a lie.
It's not the percentage of the lie.
It becomes a lie.
And so I want to say to the body of Christ as we get into this teaching today and some questions we're going to answer for you perhaps is do not allow yourself to be drawn in.
Now, if you don't mind, guys, I've got a word from the Lord really in my spirit, and I've got to say this.
Please share it.
So many of you have allowed, and I'm talking about recently.
You watch X, you watch social media, you watch Facebook, you watch YouTube, okay?
And it's got all kinds of stuff on it.
But you have watched so much negative about preachers and ministries that you have allowed your spirit.
Paul talks about this to be defiled.
And the Greek word defiled means to stain a white garment.
Your garment of what's supposed to be righteous before God has been stained by your ears hearing things and repeating things that have been tailbearing and backbiting and gossip and rumor, and it has defiled your spirit.
And when it defiles your spirit, it literally affects your joy and your peace.
And that's why some of you can't figure out, I just don't know what happened.
I haven't felt God in a long time.
Well, I'm giving you the reason why you haven't felt the Lord in a long time because you have defiled your spirit with so much stuff and you've grieved and vexed the Holy Spirit, which the Bible says, grieve not the spirit.
Don't vex, don't quench.
And you have offended the Holy Spirit.
Now, you wouldn't ever say that publicly to anybody.
I think I've offended the Holy Spirit.
But the Holy Spirit's taking his hand off of you because of this right here.
You won't control this.
Every time you turn around, you want to grab somebody in church and tell them the latest gossip.
Every time you walk into a store and see somebody you know, you go, have you heard?
Have you heard?
Have you heard?
This has grieved the Holy Spirit.
You better pay attention.
I'm talking to somebody right now.
And so what happens is, now watch, if you read the Bible, when those 10 spies came back from the promised land after 40 days, it's a land of milk and honey.
But, but, but, it has giants, it has walled cities, it's got all these tribes, and we'll never be able to do anything.
Ten men caused a whole nation to fall into unbelief and to lose out on the promise.
Ten men.
Now, watch this.
Here's what the people did: the people took on the offense of the ten.
We can't do it.
The negative report, that's what it's called in the Bible, bad report.
The people took on that report and they suffered because of somebody's bad report that they believed.
And so what happens in the body of Christ, never take on other people's offenses.
You'll have friends that something bad has happened and they'll try to pull you to their side and get you to their side to join together a small army against the pastor or against someone in the church.
Well, they don't need to be singing because of this.
We need to step in and we need to take charge.
Pastor doesn't need to be here because of this.
We need to step in.
Okay, watch this now.
I'm going to show you.
I've watched it.
I have seen people who had a sickness, a legitimate sickness, but they were offended.
And other people took on their offense and came down with the same sickness.
I've known people that had marital trouble and someone began to side with them in their marital trouble, leading to a divorce.
And later, the person that had the healthy marriage came into problem six months later and divorced.
Listen, I can tell you financial things.
I can tell you physical things because God says guard your heart with all diligence.
And so in this Matthew 24 warning, all of this offense and all this betrayal actually happens before this scripture.
And the gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world as a witness unto all nations.
And then the end would come.
So that verse, which leads to the return of the Lord and the tribulation, however you may believe it, mid or pre, whatever, but it leads to that, okay?
It's going to lead to that.
It all happens when you see everybody being offended.
And I have never in my life, I've had people say, I'm not going to support you anymore, Perry Stone.
I said, look them up, see who they are.
And they never supported to begin with.
Nothing.
Zero.
Well, if you don't do what I say, I'm going to do so-and-so.
You know what?
I'm not under the control or the spell of belligerent people.
I am under the control of the Holy Spirit and the Word of God.
And that's who I'm going to answer to.
I'm not going to answer for what you felt, what your opinion was.
That's your opinion.
They're like a nose.
Everybody's got one.
They're like an eyeball.
Everybody's got one.
But you need to wake up and learn to be still, be silent, and shut off the noise if you really want to hear.
Because I'm going to tell you something.
If you ever want to get to this, I've got this album here called Breaking Prophetic Codes.
You know how to get to this level?
Do you know how you get to the level of hearing from the Lord and seeing things that are in scripture?
You're going, wow, look at this.
Do you know how you get to the level?
You know how you get to a level of a Jonathan Kahn and you say, how does this guy come up with this?
You get to that level by keeping your heart and spirit and the pipeline open to the Holy Spirit by keeping all of the verbal and mental and emotional defilement from entering into your mind and your heart and your spirit.
Mind, heart, and spirit.
The three levels that work together.
Okay, guys, let's get going into something else because I could show you.
We want to give full transparency to you guys through our guests.
We want our guests to be able to come on and share a word that they've given from the Lord.
And Perry, I want to say this.
I said this on the show the other day, and I'll say it again for the viewers listening right now.
Friends, it is still gossiping, whether you do it with your thumbs or whether you do it with your tongue.
It's still gossiping.
A lot of people think, well, since I've posted it on Facebook, I've tweeted it out, whatever it is, it's not gossiping.
I haven't shared it physically with anyone.
Friends, whether it's done with your hands or whether it's done with your mouth, it's still gossiping.
And Christians, we need to be cautious of how we speak of the anointed man and woman of God.
That's not saying that they'll never do anything wrong, but I'm saying we need to not be poking and touching God's anointed.
He has his hand on them for a reason.
And I believe that's why, you know, a lot of people ask us, Mona, we've gotten a couple letters where people say, why aren't we reporting actively on every single thing happening in the church right now?
Well, because we don't gossip.
I don't know if all these things are factual.
What am I going to come out here and spit on things that are not factual?
Friends, I'm not going to sit here and gossip for views.
I'm not going to sit here and gossip so that potentially our YouTube channel can take off better, so that we can get millions of views.
I refuse to do it.
I don't care if our YouTube continues to get the same amount of views it gets every single time we post a video.
I refuse to compromise my personal moral compass for the sake of a good news story.
Perspective changes the conversation.
When it's you that is being dragged through the mud, it changes your perspective.
When it's you being dragged about accusations, it changes your perspective.
You have to remember this.
A lot of people that are going through what they're going through right now publicly in scrutiny by the media and other believers are friends of ours.
You don't walk away from your friends.
A friend loveth at all times and a brother is born for adversity.
Whatever happened to, I'm my brother's keeper.
Whatever happened to the bond that we have through the power and the blood of Jesus Christ, we have all fallen and fell short of the glory of God.
We're all going to make mistakes.
Listen, until your sin gets posted on social media, you will never respond the way a Christian should respond.
And I want to tell you something.
We get calls all the time.
You're right.
I get calls and texts all the time.
That's not our business.
I want to tell you something.
Our business is preaching.
Our business is to restore.
Amen.
I remember years ago, I've told this story on this program over and over, but when a very, very, very famous preacher fell, a friend of mine by the name of Gary Smalley, Dr. Gary Smalley, the late Gary Smalley, my mentor and one of my best friends, called me and said, I'm picking you up.
We're going to go see the preacher that just fell.
We're going to go and restore him.
We're going to go love on him.
We're going to go stand with him.
And I want to tell you something.
I learned that restoration is a dirty business.
When people get in trouble, people walk away.
The church, we are known by our fruits.
And I want to tell you something.
One of the wisest things that we could ever do is hear how others have gone through and navigated through their own situations.
That's right.
Oh, my goodness.
Listen, if you think this is something, things are going to get worse.
More accusations are going to happen.
More.
You know why?
Because they want to discredit anyone that stands with the truth.
2020 was a very difficult year for our ministry.
It was.
Everywhere you saw us on social media, they discredit us and they slander us and they use Pastor Jim or friend or father's name and they came against us.
And then, I mean, to the point, till this day, banks in America will not help this ministry financially to even get a loan because of the slanders and the lies that people told.
So you want to know how bad your slander and your non-truth hurts people?
It hurts to the point where ministries like us are financially hurting and we need your support.
Oh, we'll go get a loan.
We can't even get a loan.
They won't even talk to us.
But you know what?
Our trust is not in the bank.
True.
Our trust, what you're seeing right now is faith.
We are walking and living by faith, believing that God will move in your heart to write a check this week, to sow a seed.
And I want to tell you something.
We will cry wolf all the time if we could, but we don't have time for that.
We have time to preach the gospel.
The time is getting shorter and shorter.
And be careful where you spend your time.
We ought to put the message on PTL network that Pastor Jim preached years ago.
Woe unto you prophets.
Woe unto you people.
And I want to tell you something.
We have to be very careful on how we operate in this season because if you're there to destroy a ministry, you better be careful.
Amen.
You know, we had a banker about two years ago.
We heard a conversation with them, just very transparent with you guys.
And they said, you know, I give you guys probably about 30 days, 30 days before you guys have to close your doors.
Well, it's been two years.
It's been a long 30 days.
But it's because of your guys' faithfulness.
You guys are standing with us.
And it's what we said last broadcast.
This isn't Ricky Baker's ministry.
This isn't Jim Baker's ministry.
This isn't Mondo de la Vegas' ministry.
This is God's ministry.
And if God wants it here, he clearly will keep it here, which is what he has done.
But it's through you guys.
It's through your seed, your hands, your feet being the voice of this ministry spreading the word.
So I want to thank you.
And I want to thank you that you give us the opportunity to have men like Perry Stone on our broadcast.
And Perry, I want to thank you for standing with the PTL Television Network.
You have faithfully renewed your show on our network.
You have faithfully stood with us.
And I want to say thank you for that, brother.
Well, I want to say this.
One thing I have never done ever is take a minister friend.
And if they have anything they're dealing with, I don't care if it's a financial problem, a financial crisis, attacked by the media.
It doesn't matter.
I have never backed up from them.
I have minister friends who said in my crisis, some of it was physical.
Let the Process Work Out 00:00:54
Some of these guys had a disease, almost killed them.
Now they've come back.
They said, but in my crisis, when nobody else was there, Perry Stone was there.
And I'm not bragging on me.
I'm making a point.
I always put myself in the other person's shoe.
If you Christians watching me will start putting yourself in another person's shoe, you will learn how to discipline your mind and your mouth.
You will learn how to say, let the process work out.
Let the people who are supposed to deal with whatever it might be deal with whatever might be.
Because let me tell you something.
People need real friends.
Blame The Preachers 00:03:48
And I am a true friend.
If I have a friend, and I have many pastor friends, I have many friends in the TV ministry.
If I'm their friend, you're not going to see Perry Stone betray them.
You're not going to see Perry Stone talk bad about them.
You're not going to see or hear, I should say hear Perry Stone say negative because I am not a fair weather friend that when it's all going good, I'm taking a picture with you.
But when it goes rough, I'm backing away from you.
I'm just not going to do that.
And, you know, some of you alleged Christians out there can threaten people all you want.
If you don't do this, I'll do this.
And, you know, people go to pastors and say, if you don't remove this person or let my kids sing in the choir, I quit paying tithes.
Well, idiot, go ahead and put yourself under a curse.
Malachi said you'll be cursed with the curse.
You want to curse yourself?
Do something stupid like that, and you're going to curse yourself.
People just don't know the Bible.
That's the problem.
They do not know the scripture.
And I know we're on this, and it's important because I feel like we need to minister this.
King Saul hated David and was jealous of him because David was going to be the next king.
Saul went 13 years with a group of men trying to kill David, 21 attempts approximately, and never got to David.
Finally, Saul went to battle and was slain in battle and was wounded.
And he told his armor bearer, give me my sword.
And the armor bearer would not kill him.
But Saul fell on his own sword.
Now, now think about this.
Give me a minute.
You're David.
Your enemy of 13 years that has caused you to live in a cave with hairy-legged men.
Your wife was taken from you by this king.
You have lived a miserable life for 13 years.
This is the time to have a party, man.
King Saul is dead.
I mean, put his crown on and say, my time has come.
This is my season to take over the work of God and the kingdom.
Hallelujah.
The Lord has given us justice.
You know what David did to a guy that tried to kill him 21 times?
He wept.
He lamented, which is a funeral song, and wrote about Jonathan, his covenant friend, and Saul.
He wrote about them.
And watch what he says.
Publish this not in Gath, lest the daughters of the Philistines rejoice.
Do you know, for you silly Christians out there, do you know how the world rejoices with your report?
You know, you're a seeker of justice.
You're a watchdog for the kingdom of God.
And you do not know.
Someone said, well, we're not doing the damage.
People are doing the damage.
No, let me tell you what Ted Coppel said.
Ted Koppel, you remember him from Nightline years ago.
There was a great preacher we all love.
He's still in ministry.
He's been restored many years ago, doing a great job.
He's almost a patriarch in the Pentecostal world.
But a man had a failure.
Well, everybody got together with Ted Coppel to discuss the failure that had taken place.
Well, let me tell you what Ted Koppel said.
One preacher stood up and said, if it wasn't for the media and people like you, we wouldn't be having the problems we're having.
And Ted Koppel looked at them and said, I want to remind all of you ministers sitting here that the information we're getting is coming from you.
Blame the preachers for running their mouth and talking.
When you shouldn't be publishing it in Gath, you should let the whole...
Christian Television's Role in Spiritual Edification 00:15:25
See, when you start publishing and you start complaining and you start judging, you become God.
Oh, look out for you.
Because with the same judgment you judge, it's going to come back to you.
I can promise you that down the road.
Then every idle word that you have spoken, you'll give account of on the day of judgment.
And every soul, the blood will be on your hand because you offended people and turned them away from God.
Be careful what you do.
Tell you one quick story.
There was a pastor that I know that had a, it's a good, very, very good church, by the way.
And then there was a few people that rose up against him in his church.
There was one couple in particular.
And this particular situation was a little odd because the family, there was a family, it's a husband of my family, but there was a family that had publicly supported the pastor to his face, but behind the scenes at home talked horrible about him.
The pastor invited a son of this person to come to church.
And it was one of those special, I think it was Easter or something like that, and he preached.
And so this man, he wasn't a kid.
He was in his late 30s, I believe.
But this man went to the pastor and he said, Pastor, I really like your preaching.
But I'm going to tell you why I don't come to church because my mom and dad are hypocrites.
My mom and dad eat you up to your face and they go home and all they do is dog you down and talk about you and how they wish you'd leave.
And I get sick of it.
So the reason I don't come to church is because how they've talked about you.
That man died suddenly.
And to my knowledge, he did not have a public profession of faith that he knew Jesus.
But his parents had turned him off to church because of how they ran the mouth about the leadership.
See, you think, you know, you're mature enough to handle things and say you're, you know, and you got little grandbabies over here and you got kids over here listening to you and they're soaking all this seed in and you're planting that seed.
And then don't be surprised when they turn 18 if they never come to church.
Don't be surprised if they die lost because you helped them get to the wrong place.
And I'm telling you, if there's ever a sin in the body of Christ, it's the sin of the tongue because the power of life and death are in the tongue.
Somebody came to me and said, well, I think you need to make a statement.
For what reason?
Just so you can be a national inquire tabloid Christian and go to your next social media thing and say, so-and-so has said and this one has said.
Get a life.
Wouldn't you please, if you spend as much time in the word and praying that you do on social media, running your mouth, maybe we could have revival in the United States of America.
Could it just be that the reason God has withheld what he could be sending to us is because of the fact that the body of Christ still hasn't got their act together, still hasn't humbled themselves before God, still hasn't come clean with everything.
And when we do, and if we'll humble ourselves and learn to control this and worship him and praise him, we will have the Joel 2 revival.
Okay.
I'm getting stirred up.
Y'all better intervene with me here somewhere because, I mean, I mean, I'm just telling you, it stirs me up because I know the book.
I know the danger of what will happen to people eternally.
Do you know there's a lot of hell videos out there?
I went to hell, I went to hell.
I don't believe half of them because half of them are just taken from people's story, and some of them are the craziest things ever heard.
But I will tell you, three I watched that I knew were real because one of these people I knew, there are people that were in car wrecks, the spirit came out of their body and they went to hell and they said, why am I here?
And I know of at least 10 cases where he said, unforgiveness.
You ran your mouth and you would not forgive others and you cannot enter the kingdom when Christ has forgiven you.
Matthew 6 said, if you do not forgive your brother, neither will God forgive you your sins.
It's in the Bible.
We better start really taking this walk with God serious because if the rapture is going to happen or the coming of the Lord is going to happen and the tribulation is coming with all the judgments.
And, you know, I had a 63-year-old cousin.
I talked to her in the morning and she was hit by a truck that it's a truck that carries nine cows.
She was hit, T-boned, and killed at age 63 on May 25th at 1235 after I talked to her two hours before.
And we had plans to do all kinds of things.
One of the greatest cousins a person would ever have, one of my dear friends.
It's not just about the rapture.
It's about what if you're taken out before your time?
What if you're like the guy the other day that was out walking and he just dropped dead of a heart attack, didn't even know he had problems?
What do you do?
You do not want to exit your body with all that garbage and junk and stuff that you put in your spirit.
You need to repent today and say, God, I am so sorry for allowing my mind to become a garbage pail of other people's opinions.
And I tell you what I do.
I go on and say, block them, block them, block them, block them.
I block 20 people.
I don't want to hear what they got to say because they're not edifying.
The Bible says that we in the body of Christ have to have edification and comfort.
And that's what we need to be.
I love what you said, brother, about people saying, you need to make a comment.
None of us need to make comments.
We're preachers of the gospel.
We're not commentators for secular gossip magazines.
We're ministers of the gospel.
Our time is spent in studying the Bible.
And our time is spent in winning souls.
And our time is spent in trying to help people to come to the relationship with God, get over depression, get over oppression, and get their bodies healed.
And if you're a Christian and you're supposed to be a social media influencer, why don't you go back to doing, you know why you don't go back to doing what you're supposed to do?
Because you don't get the views unless you become a gossip.
Because good news doesn't really make the news.
It's just bad news.
God have mercy on all of you that do that.
And I say that sincerely.
God have pity and mercy on you at the Bema and the day of judgment.
You better get your act together and start repenting.
Well, I think other people need to repent.
That's between them and God.
That's not between you.
You don't control the blood.
You don't control who gets forgiven.
You're not a priest in a confessional somewhere trying to forgive people's sin.
You're a part of the body of Christ.
You allegedly are a Christian, so act like a Christian.
I don't know.
I feel like the Apostle Paul right now rebuking the church at Corinth.
I'm sorry.
He's writing his letter.
You know, I mean, I'm sorry, guys.
We're supposed to be talking about this right here.
We haven't even talked about it.
But you know what?
We're in the flow of the Holy Spirit right now.
I'm telling you, I feel it.
I feel the unction.
I feel God's power in what I'm saying to the congregation.
If we want to have revival and we want to have what, let me say what I know.
You know, Jim has talked about this and we've talked, I wish there was a way that everybody could hear our private prophetic conversations and things that he's been through.
And I said, Jim, I wish people knew that and things that happened that were demonic and things that happened that were, I'm going to say it, deep state involved, all this kind of stuff.
Nobody knows what he's had to go through, Jim Baker's had to go through, except him himself.
He knows, and of course, a part of the family.
But I want to say something that's very, very important right here.
And that is this, that, whoo, I feel the Holy Ghost so strong, that this network, for example, is raised up by the Lord for moments like this.
In other words, in times like this, when you can watch what is being said and get stirred in your spirit and God refocus you and realign you, it is worth every 60 minutes that we spend looking at you through the lens of the camera and sharing with you what we believe is the word of the Lord.
If Jesus Christ, let me say it this way.
Somebody told me this when I was a teenager.
When you go to do something, let's say you're with somebody, a boy is with a girl, a girl's with a guy, you're with friends.
If you go to do something in the presence of anyone and Jesus was sitting in the room or he's in the backseat, actually Jesus is sitting there.
Would you say what you're about to say in his presence?
Or would you be afraid?
I probably don't need to say that.
He's real righteous.
He wouldn't like me saying that.
Can I tell you this?
If you can judge what you're about to say and say Jesus would be happy and pleased with me because I'm doing the Bible, I'm doing the word, I'm edifying and building up, then say it.
But if you think you're a self-appointed watchdog for the kingdom of God and you're going to be the person that's going to bring justice to everything, let me just say something to you.
Listen to me now.
Listen to me.
Is what you're saying edifying and pleasing to him?
If you were going to smoke something, eat something, drink something, and you'd feel really weird if Jesus was sitting in the room.
I would suggest to you, back up from it.
Really?
I would suggest to you to back up from it.
Because guess what?
He is in the room.
If two or three are gathered together in his name, he says I'm there.
And then the Holy Spirit's with you.
And the Holy Spirit can be grieved.
The Holy Spirit can be vexed.
And the Holy Spirit can be quenched.
And you know, the only unforgivable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
And so having, maybe we can realign this back around, but I just want to say to some of you, get yourself in order.
Get this stuff out of your spirit.
Repent now because you don't know when you're going to stand before God.
And think about this verse.
Every idle word, and that word is useless.
And every word that's unemployed, what does that mean?
It's a word that has no benefit.
It is a word that has no help.
It is a word that does not have love.
It is a word that does not have instruction.
It is a word that doesn't have edification.
You're going to give an account of before Jesus and probably right before the people you talked about.
And there's going to be people lose their crowns in heaven because they did the wrong thing with their heart and their words.
And I'm just glad I have the opportunity.
Guys, I want to tell you something.
I'm glad I have the opportunity to share this because this has been in my spirit the past couple months, actually.
And I think God has allowed me this opportunity to look at the people watching and say, listen, don't get into somebody else's offense.
Don't get into somebody else's offense on the internet.
Stop giving your opinion when nobody asked for it.
Please.
Do you go in a grocery line and somebody says, Well, you know, honey, what do you think I should buy this or this?
Well, let me give you my opinion.
I'll tell you what.
Now, in my opinion, that way is this and this.
You're going to get more value.
Do you just interrupt people's conversations?
Do you just interrupt people's life because you think you have a special voice?
No, no one does that.
That's true.
So anyway.
I was going to say, someone did that to me at the grocery store.
I said, hey, bro, I've already made up my decision.
Brother, I've already made my mind up, whatever it is.
But I think it's spot on.
That's why we want to be able to provide the opportunity for our guests to be able to come and share the word of the Lord.
That's what the PTL Network's all about, Mondo.
Listen, church business at a state within the church business with church leaders.
Stop going to the world for wisdom.
What you heard just now is wisdom.
The church needs wisdom.
That's why I asked Dr. Barna, what wisdom do you have with all the research, with all, and what Perry Stone just shared?
I want to tell you something.
It's the heartbeat of what is happening right now.
That's right.
Christians need to know how to respond.
The power is in your hand.
The problem is social media has made it available for everyone to have a voice.
The problem behind that is there's a responsibility that you're going to be accountable for.
And most people don't even realize that.
I believe Christian television, people are trying to write it off.
But God spoke to me and I told you the other day, God gave us the anointing for Christian television, not for social media.
We'll use social media.
Don't get me wrong.
But there's an anointing, a special anointing in Christian television that with your support, it was birthed.
With your support, it continues.
With your support, it's going to go forward.
Amen.
But if we curse Christian television, I want to tell you something.
No wonder it's dying.
We're not giving up on Christian television.
You can go to social media.
You can go to YouTube.
But there's an anointing about Christian television that God has ordained that has impacted the world before social media even got involved.
There is power.
There's anointing.
There is restoration.
There's a voice that God has given us through Christian television that social media hasn't earned yet.
And I want to tell you something.
Don't give up on Christian television.
Amen.
Don't give up.
Don't stop your giving.
Don't stop your sowing of the seed.
Don't stop listening.
Don't stop watching.
The world's television is dying.
Right now, networks are trying to figure out how to retain your attention.
Yet, we don't need to retain your attention with gossip.
We need the anointing back.
Amen.
Oh, I know you don't want to hear that.
We need to retain it with the word.
Friends, you know, we can spend an hour, what is it, two hours now for a movie in a theater and our eyes are glued.
We barely blink the entire time.
But whenever somebody is demonstrating how the word of God is applicable to our life on a day-to-day basis, we tend to give it 10, 15, 20 minutes max.
Friends, it's important that we understand everything we have is because of Christ Jesus.
So why would we not be invested in knowing the man who is Jesus?
Why would we not be invested in knowing the word which he gave us, this 66-book letter that is our light to our path, that is the guide that leads us to the cross every single time?
I mean, even in the beginning of the Bible, Mondo, everything points back to Christ and what he was going to do on the cross.
Perry, I want to ask you about that.
Seven Years Prophecy 00:10:41
You know, you said in your CD, the tribulation code, that if we want to know what the future of any area holds, go back to the first five books of the Bible.
I want to ask you that question.
How does the Torah, the first five books of the Bible, provide insights for future events?
Well, because it goes back to the principle of Solomon, what has been is what will be.
And the Greeks believed that time would go in a circle.
It would begin here, but it would end up where it began.
And if you think about Genesis in the book of Revelation, in chapter one and two in Genesis, there's no sin, there's no death, there's no sorrow, there's no pain, there's no tears.
The tree of life is there, the living waters, living rivers are there.
Then you see the sin issue and everything collapses.
Then you go back to the last two books of Revelation.
Then there's no pain, there's no sin, there's no death.
All tears are washed away.
There's no sorrow.
The tree of life is there.
There's the river of life coming out from the throne of God.
So Genesis 1 and 2 is the beginning.
Revelation 21, 22 is the ending.
And it comes full circle.
Excuse me.
And meaning that it will end the way that it started.
So that's the spiritual principle and the premise that we go under when we begin to go into the Bible and we begin to find stories.
Now, let me give you one that I call a tribulation code.
This is very interesting.
This goes back to the time of Jacob.
And, you know, there was Jacob and Esau, sons of Isaac.
And you know the story of how Jacob took the birthright and the blessing from Esau.
Well, he fled to his mother's brother's farm or estate in Syria.
So now Jacob goes to Syria with just probably a backpack and what he has.
He then meets a beautiful person who is Laban's daughter at a well and says, wow, I think I'll stay here.
So he works seven years to get this beautiful woman.
On the honeymoon night in the tent, he finds out he got the other sister.
He goes to Laban complaining and said, you know, we didn't do an exchange here.
That's not who I wanted.
And he said, well, in our culture, we can't do it like you wanted.
You'll have to, here's the verse in Genesis in the King James.
You'll have to fulfill her week.
Now, that week is not seven days.
It was another seven years.
So he worked seven years for the first one, then he ended up seven years getting the one that he wanted.
All right.
And from the handmaidens and from the different, the two wives came the 12 sons and the one daughter of Jacob's.
All right, here's the point I want to make.
In the book of Jeremiah, it says there would be a time called Jacob's trouble.
Most evangelical theologians will tell you that the time of Jacob's trouble refers to the seven-year tribulation.
And we get the period seven years from Daniel 9, 27, where the Antichrist confirms an agreement with many for one week.
That word week there is the same word week that is used in the King James for Laban, and it's a seven-year period, not a seven-day period.
Then we go to Revelation and find that one, the first part is three and a half years.
The second part is three and a half years.
That totals seven years.
So in looking at Jacob's trouble, the way I always heard it taught by pastors and evangelists was Jacob's trouble is the seven-year tribulation.
Well, let's go back to the code that's here.
In the tribulation code of Jacob's trouble, Jacob had two periods of seven years that were trouble.
He had to work hard.
He had his wages changed 10 times, by the way.
He was up during the cold, during the heat, taking care of Laban's flocks.
So he worked seven years, got the wrong person, had to work another seven years.
So it was a trial to work the seven, but it was another trial to work another seven.
So there's a 14-year period here, but it's divided by a seven and a seven.
Now, how does that come out prophetically?
Is there anywhere in history where connected with Jacob, who became Israel, that the descendants of Israel have a timeframe of seven years and seven years?
Because all of us know that the seven-year tribulation based on Daniel and the book of Revelation will be about Israel, Jerusalem, and the Jews.
That's in Daniel itself.
Israel, Jerusalem, and the Jews.
That's Jacob's trouble.
So there's your seven.
There's coming a seven in the future.
But here's where the code gets interesting.
If we go back to the time of Adolf Hitler, when he became the chancellor of Germany, we go back to the time when he starts fighting in Austria and trying to capture land.
We come to 1939.
And in 1939, it's when the real attack on the Jewish people began.
Now, watch this carefully.
This is important.
If we go forward seven years, we come to the end of the Holocaust.
And we come to the time when Israel comes, starts, the plans for Israel to be a nation are working in the process.
Now, here's the point.
During that seven-year period under the Nazis, six million Jews were slain.
Six million.
1.5 million children.
The others were adults.
There were also 7 million other people that died as a result of the wars with the Nazis.
Many of them were Christians.
Some of them were gypsies.
There was just a lot of deaths.
So there's a total of just those two groups of 7 million plus 6 million, which is 13 million dying.
Now let's go back to the Jews.
So for seven years, they're put in camps.
For seven years, they are tortured.
For seven years, they are killed.
For seven years, it looked like Israel was going to be annihilated.
But the book of Zachariah says that the Lord would bring one-third through the fire.
I found out from Jewish sources that after the Holocaust, one-third of the Jews in the world lived and the rest of them suffered and died.
One-third, one-third remained.
That is the fulfillment of that prophecy.
Some people say that is a parallel of the tribulation where one-third of the Jewish remnant will survive.
That's quite possible.
My point is this.
Jacob had a seven years and a seven years.
He got one wife during the first year.
So Israel is birthed as a nation and reborn during the first seven, which is the Holocaust.
During the next seven, he gets the wife he wanted.
That's when Messiah comes back and takes his bride, the church, and he sets up his kingdom for a thousand years at the end of that seven.
Now, that is what I call a tribulation code, because most people would read that and read right over it and not realize that there is something concealed there in the book of Genesis that is a parallel historically.
And there's a lot more to it than just that.
But let me just say very quickly because I don't want to run out of time.
But one of the things that we did on behalf of the network, because we really want you to support this network that has so many voices coming to help you understand the truth.
And this is called Breaking Prophetic Codes, How Our Future is Concealed in Old Testament stories and patterns.
And of course, Ecclesiastes chapter 1, 9, and 10 talks about that.
Now, here are the codes that are alluded to.
The Armageddon Code, the whole story of Armageddon, this is so bizarre, is concealed in the entire story of Gideon.
And you probably can go there and you won't find it until you start reading this and your eyes open up and then you'll go back and say, oh my goodness, it's all there.
The tribulation code hidden in Purim.
Now, Purim is the celebration based on Queen Esther saving the lives of the Jewish people.
And we're going to show you the tribulation code.
There is something really bizarre in the book of Esther.
And I know we're not going to have time to share it.
But if you take the ten sons of Haman, and it's like, I think it's the third and the fourth and the tenth, but there's three of their names that in the Hebrew Bible, and it's been that way for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years.
One of the letters of the Hebrew alphabet is half its size.
And I'll explain to you a very powerful code.
I learned this at Qumran from a Jewish rabbi that blew me away, and it's on this.
We have the Exodus Code from the book of Exodus.
Now, what is that code?
If you go into Exodus and begin at chapter 12 and go through 19, you are going to see the entire timeframe of Christ's crucifixion all the way to the very end when the coming of the Lord takes place.
It's all concealed in the Exodus Code.
Then we have unlocking the Maranatha Code.
Maranatha is an Aramaic word that is found one time in the New Testament, and it means he cometh or our Lord cometh.
And we're going to talk about that.
It's a very interesting study.
Then, I love this one here.
This one is extremely powerful.
End time secrets hidden in the parables of Jesus.
A lot of people are not aware of the fact that many of the parables that Jesus gave in the four gospels have concealed information.
And when I say concealed, here's what I'm saying.
You read it and you read over it.
You don't dig it out.
You don't look at that Greek word.
You don't tie that word with that one.
When you tie the words In the original Greek, you say, oh my goodness, here it is.
So, in the parables of Jesus, we're going to break many of these down, and we're going to show you the end time mysteries and codes that are hidden there.
Then we have one, I love this one, called Decoding the Israeli American Cipher.
This probably, this message was one of the most requested messages that the partners of our ministry ever asked for, because here's what I do: I take all of the historic parallels of the ancient nation of Israel and show how America is like a modern Israel symbolically,
and how our documents, our founding documents, which is the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and the Bill of Rights, are all based on the Torah, the prophets, and the gospels, also the Psalms.
800 Number Offered 00:07:02
And I think you'll enjoy this.
So, here's what you need to go online.
In fact, go to www.jimbakershow.com.
Also, there's an 800 number, and we are in an agreement with the Jim Baker ministry on getting this to you.
Okay, we're going to get this to you.
This absolute fantastic.
Now, this is not a DVD.
It is a CD album.
And everybody, I believe everybody still has a CD player.
You may not have one in your car unless you have an older car, but I keep one.
I always keep a CD player.
You're going to need it one day, okay?
Trust me.
And the CDs, I keep one behind me, and I've got thousands of CDs, and that means I can go back and listen to those anytime.
So don't throw away a CD player.
They're very good, and they're very effective.
And as long as they work, you'll be able to have this.
So go to the phone right now and call the number or go online at www.jimbakershow.com and let's get this into your hand.
We've already come through, of course, our season of Christmas and a lot of great time of giving.
And it's always good to sow something into ministries that have been a blessing to you.
And I know I'm so appreciative of having our program on this network.
I'm so appreciative of the family and my dear friend, whom I absolutely heavily admire him.
I consider him to be honestly, with all the things he's dealt with and how he has stayed strong and taught other ministers how to stand in adversity, how to stay strong, how to depend on God, how to have faith for God to see you from one thing, one step of glory to the next step of glory is Jim Baker.
And I want to give honor to my friend and his wife, Lori, and also the sons of Jim.
The sons of Jim.
That sounds like a movie, don't it?
It sounds like a Western, the Sons of Jim.
So you're there in Missouri, aren't you?
So we could do, we'll do a Western Sons of Jim movie one day.
How would that be?
Sons of Jim.
That just has a good ring to it.
I'm sorry.
Jim's probably laughing, but it does.
Well, we want to thank you for your kind words.
We know Pastor Jim Baker regards you as a friend, but I would say even more than that, he regards you as one of the best Bible prophecy teachers that has ever walked the face of this earth.
And he has said that from his own mouth.
So we want to thank you, Perry Stone, for being on our broadcast and for being on the PTL Television Network.
You're a huge blessing, not only to this broadcast, but as well to the network, which you're on on Sundays, every single Sunday, twice.
And you're on in the morning and on in the evening as well.
So thank you for committing and being a part of the network.
Absolutely.
Listen, give us a call right now, 1-888.
We want to hear from you.
We want to pray with you.
It's the time for you to sow a seed and help us continue to, you know, 2025 is going to be a year of miracles.
How about that?
Great miracles are going to take place.
Call us today, 1-888-988-1588.
And sow a seed this year.
And when you order this, do a little extra.
We are almost there, Ricky.
We are at the finish line, actually.
We're almost there.
When I say we're almost there, I'm talking about we have cut the debt from what happened in 2020.
About 75% of the way down.
It's unbelievable.
Yep.
One of these days, you and I are going to sit here and tell the story of how the debt has gone down because you will not believe it.
I can't believe it.
I probably cry for about a whole hour.
Just seeing God's faithfulness over and over and over and over.
And we've had so many people speak words of death over this ministry, words of closing and foreclosure.
But friends, don't believe anything because when God has spoken a word, that is the word we stand on.
I want to thank you, friend.
You have stood with us.
You have stood by us.
I said this to a brother the other day.
I said, I'll link arms with you, and God will stand in front of us, and we can face anything the world throws at us.
And, friends, you have partnered with this ministry.
You have linked arms with the PTL television network.
You have linked arms with the Jim Baker show, with this ministry.
And we have stood together.
And no matter what governmental attack has come, no matter what ministerial attack has come, we have seen that God has truly stood in front of us and He has protected us and He has honored us as we continue to honor His word.
We have continued to say we will stand on the Word of God.
That is where we will place our foundation.
That is where we will place our roots and we will never sway from that.
Absolutely.
Call us today.
Stand with us.
Order this unbelievable CD set, breaking prophetic codes.
Listen, the number is on the screen.
And if you don't want to talk to anybody and you're melancholy, it's like me.
Like Ricky.
Ricky's.
I don't want to.
I want to talk.
Call me.
I'll talk to you.
But yo, you know what?
JimBakershow.com is the website.
And visit the affiliate page, VoiceofEvangelism with Perry Stone.
Right there, you're going to get a plethora of options of what to order.
But this is so important for 2025.
Call us today.
We are experiencing a miracle like we've never seen in our ministry.
And it's all because of God speaking to you, standing in this hour for us.
Call us today, 1-888-988-1588.
Amen.
Our Father always says, Don't give up on the brink of a miracle.
And friends, we're right there.
This is an encouraging time to be alive.
It's an encouraging time to be a part of this ministry and to partner with this ministry.
As we go off the broadcast today, I want to read this to you.
If you have a Bible at home, pick up your Bible and open up 1 Timothy.
And we're going to be reading out of chapter 1.
I'm going to read it at verse 12.
It says, I thank him who has given me strength, Jesus Christ our Lord, because he judged me faithful, appointing me to his service.
Though formerly I was a blasphemer, a persecutor, and an insolent opponent, but I received mercy because I acted ignorantly in unbelief.
And for the grace of our Lord overflowed with me with the faith and love that are in Christ Jesus.
The saying is trustworthy and deserving of full acceptance that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am the foremost.
Well, I might have taken Paul's place there, actually.
I might be the chief of sinners.
I might have taken his place there.
It says, But I receive mercy for this reason, that in me, as the foremost, Jesus Christ might display his perfect patience as an example to those who to who were believed in him for eternal life, to the king of ages, immortal, invisible, the only God, to be honor and glory forever.
Amen.
Friends, we stand by that statement that he is the king of ages.
He is the immortal.
He is the invisible, and he is the only God to be honored and glorified forever and ever.
Amen.
I want you to remember this: that God loves you.
He really does.
Bye-bye for today.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, Perry Stone, for being on with us.
God bless you.
Export Selection